Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 994： Brussels Aims For Greater Role Dictating EU Foreign Policy Now That Viktor Orbán’s Gone

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00:00:44.800 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:54.040 Good evening, Hanwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.

00:00:58.840 I've got Jacob Reynolds, who's the head of policy at Matthias Corvinus Collegium, that great think tank, one of the great legacy projects launched and financed by Viktor Orban here on the show tonight to talk a bit about the Hungarian elections.

00:01:16.060 And he has an analysis on that, which I would like to start off with, just because like my own, it's somewhat idiosyncratic in that it's not what most of the mainstream media is picking up on.

00:01:29.200 It's not their narrative. But I happen to think, and I share his conclusion pretty solidly, I ask him to talk a bit about that, what his reaction to the Viktor Orban defeat is and what he thinks it means.

00:01:41.900 And then I'm going to talk about the Politico article mentioning Ursula von der Leyen and the power grab that she has announced on the back of Orban's defeat, about which Jacob's been pretty active on social media.

00:02:02.540 And then after I did the short ad read halfway in the first half of the show, I'll talk about the article that he's had published, developing these themes in the legendary Brussels signal.

00:02:17.140 So, Jacob, welcome onto the show. Thanks for joining us this evening.

00:02:21.540 Firstly, then tell us, what is your reading of the defeat from Sunday?

00:02:28.920 what do you think it means because we know what the the mainstream media thinks it means we know

00:02:33.800 what ursula von der Leyen says she thinks it means that it's a defeat for economic nationalism it's

00:02:40.280 a defeat for populism it's a return uh for hungary within the strabidly pro-european fold what do you

00:02:49.000 take out of this yeah well firstly i can't collect speak for the entire uh matthias

00:02:55.080 i'm mcc brussels but that won't stand in the way of the analysis i think it's important to note in

00:03:01.080 the first instance that the defeat of orban in in hungary is obviously an enormous defeat really

00:03:06.940 significant uh the blow in this case and it's clearly a demand uh for for change we should

00:03:12.300 make no kind of bones about that but one thing that's very important and interesting from the

00:03:16.840 campaign is the the challenger peto maggior formerly an insider in orban's own party he

00:03:22.920 never once challenged, as it were, the ideological project with which Viktor Orban is so strongly

00:03:29.000 associated. So he was very careful to kind of clothe himself in Hungarian national clothing,

00:03:36.120 to feature the Hungarian national flag prominently, to maintain and pledge to maintain and even

00:03:42.600 strengthen Viktor Orban's policies on migration and has promised on certain things that Orban

00:03:48.960 was famous for as well such as not allowing uh ukraine's accession to the european union so

00:03:53.340 the the level of ideology there wasn't necessarily a challenge to those things that orban is

00:03:58.860 associated with but at the same time it's important to note that there's there is a reason why uh

00:04:05.340 figures from alex soros to us lavanderlion was celebrating the the victory of peta magia and

00:04:12.060 that's because the one thing that he will concede on and won't maintain from the orban era is

00:04:18.620 precisely that Orbán always demanded Hungary's right to choose, fundamentally that question of

00:04:24.500 sovereignty. And that's the kind of thing that it seems already is kind of being given up by

00:04:30.500 Petr Magyar in promising to implement certain reforms that the EU has long demanded of Hungary

00:04:36.180 and that Orbán always has stayed away from accessing to. So in that respect, there is a

00:04:43.160 populist quality to Petr Magyar, and I'm sure that promise of fundamental change and reform,

00:04:49.560 which resonates right across the globe in this big populist moment, he was certainly able to

00:04:55.080 kind of capitalize on that and to maintain these important things. But at the same time,

00:04:59.000 he does represent a new model, a model of accommodation to the European Union.

00:05:07.000 So, I mean, I think that's a pretty accurate reading of it.

00:05:10.280 My reading of this, I want your take on that, is that really, I think, and you can certainly say this with the benefit of hindsight, I think you could have said it before, to be honest with you, that Viktor Orban's going for this, I think we'll do the fifth cumulative term, after 16 continuous years, was pushing somewhat at the electoral laws of gravity.

00:05:40.280 Because if you remember what the UK was like in 1997, after the Tories had been in for 18 years, it's just a bit longer, but not a huge degree longer.

00:05:51.660 People get restless. In a democratic country, people get restless, and 16 years is a long time.

00:05:56.940 They want to exercise their agency in determining the direction of their country.

00:06:03.080 And against the mainstream media narratives, the mainstream media's narrative, I would simply suggest if the country had really wanted to reject urbanism, it would have picked someone from the left.

00:06:18.200 And it didn't. It picked someone who, as you were saying, up until as recently as February 2024, just two years ago, was still in Fidesz, right?

00:06:28.780 And it's a very short period of time to come out and start a new movement. And I think those sort of things are what the mainstream media are either misreading or trying to do a bit of narrative shaping to justify their agenda.

00:06:47.060 Now, that brings us back on to Ursula von der Leyen.

00:06:51.280 Tell us then, before going into this, for our largely American audience,

00:06:55.720 that won't probably be so, well, there are a lot of Europeans

00:06:58.800 that won't be so au fait with this,

00:07:01.220 but just in talking about what she's called for,

00:07:05.340 really within 24 hours, within hours of this,

00:07:08.800 to say a bit about what QMV is, qualified majority voting,

00:07:13.100 what that is, what it represents.

00:07:14.720 Say a bit about unanimity as well,

00:07:16.660 what these two parallel concepts work on different areas of the European Union's policy.

00:07:23.460 And why? Because the EU's been pushing at this, especially on foreign policy for some time.

00:07:28.260 Germany was floating it just a few or so months ago.

00:07:34.020 And this goes back, the battle over this goes back for when the UK was still in the European Union.

00:07:41.280 Just say a bit about what these two concepts are then,

00:07:43.500 because that sets the frame to understand what Ursula von der Leyen 0.99

00:07:48.360 is actually trying to achieve right now.

00:07:51.160 Yeah, so I mean, the European Union is itself hugely and horribly complicated.

00:07:56.140 One suspects deliberately so to make it hard to work out what's going on.

00:07:59.360 But in essence, the European Union kind of votes on various different issues

00:08:04.200 and some of that's determined by the commission itself,

00:08:06.600 which is the kind of executive body.

00:08:08.460 You've got the European Parliament, which has some degree of power,

00:08:12.180 is largely a kind of in my opinion largely a ceremonial uh institution and then the majority

00:08:17.680 of the work happens in what's called the european council which is the where all of the heads of

00:08:21.200 states get together and on most issues they vote by qualified majority so they take a majority of

00:08:27.980 the people in the council though it's weighted slightly depending on uh how big the country is

00:08:31.940 and so on most issues they vote by that kind of majoritarian uh voting system or the vaguely

00:08:37.080 majoritarian voting system but on certain issues really important fundamental issues it's always

00:08:43.040 been understood that you have to have complete unanimity so every country has to sign up to

00:08:47.900 to a particular proposal and foreign policy is obviously one of those really important

00:08:52.720 fundamental sovereign areas of national life and so historically and up until now the european

00:08:59.060 union works on the basis of unanimity so if the european union wants to make a foreign policy

00:09:03.520 decision that affects the whole european union then everybody has to agree to it and the lesson

00:09:09.120 that the european union has very much learned from the as it were victor orban era is that

00:09:15.280 this is an enormous problem because it means that a country like hungary which has a different take

00:09:20.620 for example on the the war in ukraine uh hungary can effectively block certain decisions uh and

00:09:27.440 or use its veto to extract concessions on these issues and this has been hugely problematic for

00:09:33.360 the European Union. They've wanted to have a much more assertive policy on Ukraine, for example,

00:09:38.140 certainly the European Commission has. They've wanted to have a more assertive policy. Orban's

00:09:42.200 always been able to hold it up by exercising his veto. And the lesson they draw from that

00:09:46.600 is that it's time to abolish that veto, abolish the unanimity requirement in the European Council

00:09:53.420 voting. This is itself a very controversial kind of idea, even among lots of other European

00:10:00.000 union countries because lots of small countries would for example miss out but essentially

00:10:03.660 this is their dream is the european commissioners the von der Leyen's dream to move to a situation

00:10:08.540 where one country no longer gets to exercise that veto which in effect means that no country gets

00:10:14.700 to exercise its sovereignty with regard to these fundamental decisions are there any issues of

00:10:22.020 practical importance on the foreign policy front that would come you basically said it but i want

00:10:28.280 you to say it again. What are the foreign policy issues that would then come into play

00:10:34.640 if the European Union switched to qualified majority voting on foreign policy issues

00:10:42.580 rather than unanimity? That is to say if smaller countries or even larger countries lost the

00:10:47.500 veto power. And there's a question mark over Slovakia here. But if they lost their, that

00:10:53.580 say with regards to russia but if they lost their um their uh if the the the veto power the hold up

00:11:01.180 on simply one country even malta doesn't matter because because if it's malta if it's germany on

00:11:07.140 this point they have the same veto blocking right what would the the practical implications of this

00:11:13.660 be well it's important to understand the context which is that over the last few years uh the

00:11:20.500 European Union has kind of abrogated more and more power to itself and wanted to play a much

00:11:25.720 bigger role in foreign policy and international issues. Some of this started with the coronavirus

00:11:30.280 pandemic, where the European Union wanted to be effectively in charge of all of the lockdowns and

00:11:35.620 wanted to procure all of the vaccines, et cetera, et cetera. And similarly, in foreign policy,

00:11:39.640 since the war in Ukraine, they wanted to have a much more assertive role. And in this case,

00:11:43.640 they've wanted the ability to send weapons, maybe even engage in weapons manufacturing

00:11:48.820 to go as far you might imagine going as far as if there's a possible peace deal that troops are

00:11:54.020 involved the european union will want to be involved in that might want to set up its own

00:11:57.420 army so there are a whole number of issues another classic one has been the example of the the kind

00:12:03.300 of seized russian frozen assets which the european union has want to put to work in in ukraine and so

00:12:08.660 i mean in the near term it's really this issue of ukraine that they want to get around this

00:12:12.340 a veto for it's somewhat ironic isn't it that they're waiting for they're waiting because of

00:12:19.520 course to make this change they're going to be they're going to need um unanimity to get this

00:12:25.280 change they can't do this change they can't abolish the national veto by qualified majority

00:12:29.700 voting they're going to need um uh unanimity on that which is probably why they're they were

00:12:35.700 waiting for um for victor orban to vacate the scene on that point i'm going to come back to

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00:14:25.120 Back now with Jacob Reynolds, head of policy at the Matthias Corvinus Collegium.

00:14:31.920 Jacob, am I being cynical here? You mentioned earlier on the issue that Peter Maggio wants to get, not unreasonably, wants to get his hands on the 35 billion euros worth of infrastructure financing that the European Union has illegitimately blocked in order to destabilise the Viktor Orban government.

00:14:59.160 he wants to get his hands on that money

00:15:01.660 because a large part of it would have been provided

00:15:03.620 via Hungarian taxpayers

00:15:05.500 to Brussels

00:15:06.580 handed over via

00:15:08.440 the Budapest government

00:15:13.640 which is how the European Union works

00:15:16.100 there's no direct taxation

00:15:17.660 to the EU from member states

00:15:20.320 it's all handled by the member state level

00:15:22.420 so he wants to get his hands

00:15:23.860 on that 35 billion

00:15:25.460 it's a large huge sum of money

00:15:27.160 and so on the line has indicated that they know without jumping through a few hoops that money

00:15:35.440 will be released rapidly it strikes me that the european union has played a very cynical game

00:15:41.220 here they've tried to manipulate the outcome of this election in part with hungarians own money

00:15:47.060 in order to to get victor orban an obstacle out of the way in order to push through with this this 0.50

00:15:57.000 power grab which they haven't just wanted for the last six months or since the ukraine war

00:16:01.440 brussels has been looking to to move foreign policy over to to qualified majority voting for

00:16:07.900 decades um is there is there a straight line here do you think between the withholding of the 35

00:16:14.500 billion dollars of funding and the eventual goal of brussels to take greater control and direction

00:16:22.440 over shaping the european union's foreign policy program well there was definitely i think a direct

00:16:30.200 line between the withholding of these funds and the desire to see the back of victor orban

00:16:34.320 it was always said about these by the european union officials themselves but especially by

00:16:39.260 their propagandists it was always said that this kind of intervention uh and this kind of they

00:16:45.140 would call it the enforcement of european values in their kind of orwellian terminology uh it was

00:16:49.840 always said that these were supposed to be levers that they would use to either get Orban to change

00:16:54.160 his behaviour and to give up his kind of attachment to Hungarian sovereignty, or later on to make

00:16:59.520 things very difficult for Orban to achieve re-election. Now, don't get me wrong, it was

00:17:03.680 clear that this was a kind of momentous landslide election result, so there were clearly lots of

00:17:07.780 factors at play, but certainly the difficult situation in the Hungarian economy, which is in

00:17:12.780 part because of these withheld funds from the European Union, that certainly would have played

00:17:17.160 a role. And the challenger, Peter Maggio, made no mistake that he was going to be the ones who

00:17:23.520 would deliver the sanctioned assets, in effect, if he were to win. And the European Union here

00:17:29.700 has a tested playbook, because they did the very same thing in Poland, where they withheld

00:17:34.820 significant sums of money that Poland was entitled to. And then the day, almost the day after,

00:17:41.200 their man, Donald Tusk, won the election or formed the coalition that won the election and ousted

00:17:46.480 the old conservative government they picked up the phone and they said well now here's all of 1.00

00:17:50.740 your money so it was clear that this was a reward for the the polish people choosing the right 0.89

00:17:55.380 person and it was very obvious that a similar reward would be in the offing if they chose the

00:18:01.060 right person in the european union's eyes in hungary now what what is kind of what is their

00:18:06.560 quid pro quo here they're going to give him all of this money but they expect something in return

00:18:11.020 and in this case they don't just expect him to lift his veto on the current money that they want

00:18:16.000 to send to ukraine but they also want him to implement a series of reforms they call them

00:18:21.440 reforms in line with european values but reforms that would effectively give the european union

00:18:25.320 a much greater degree of leverage inside hungary such so that in the future if the hungarian people

00:18:31.240 elect another conservative figure uh that or even against this existing one they will have the

00:18:35.720 levers that they can pull uh to kind of shape events in hungary it's very worth uh mentioning

00:18:42.500 on that point that the brussels relationship with the smaller countries and the the east

00:18:48.960 the eastern accession countries especially moving further out um is very different from brussels

00:18:54.580 relationship with say france or germany um on the other hand because they they have far more ability

00:19:01.200 to drive uh to capture the the political elites of the smaller country and smaller countries

00:19:07.620 Obviously, I'm going to have less proposed, less resistance to the European Union juggernaut.

00:19:17.080 I want to come on to this excellent article that you had out in Brussels, Signal, here.

00:19:23.740 And I'll pick up with your line in there that populism means nothing without national sovereignty.

00:19:30.200 Just say a bit what you mean about that.

00:19:33.240 And then I'm going to sort of pick up something that you mentioned in the article.

00:19:37.620 Yeah, well, this is quite an important point to understand, because it's clear that the European Union is going to allow Peter Maguire, at least rhetorically, his rhetoric on controlling migration.

00:19:47.640 And in the case of, again, I make the comparison with Donald Tusk, the current prime minister of Poland, where they've allowed Donald Tusk an opt out of their migration pact, which is basically a kind of a system where they reallocate refugees from across from across the union. 0.62

00:20:02.140 And so they allowed this to Donald Tusk because he was one of them. But this was a concession that they gave. This was something that was, as it were, a reward for the good behaviour. Poland, in effect, had given up its ability to choose on this fundamental question of, for example, how many asylum seekers or refugees you might have to take. 0.63

00:20:19.000 And the same thing is in the often here. Peter Maggiore talks tough on migration, but fundamentally sovereignty is the ability to choose. It's not a sovereign migration policy that you have if it's one that comes with a kind of natural veto from Brussels. So even if Brussels accede to this and allow a strict migration policy, you've still given up that sovereign right to choose, which is really the lifeblood of national sovereignty.

00:20:39.380 i'm sure it is just to go back because you mentioned this twice now i want to underline this

00:20:46.180 the you i think you called it a playbook right you you refer to the absolute sort of

00:20:52.260 parallel between what happened in poland uh and what's just happened in hungary and you know

00:20:58.260 the announcement that blocked funds will soon be flowing um didn't take place after weeks or

00:21:05.700 or months of negotiations. This was within hours.

00:21:10.600 So it's absolutely clear that they're standing by, as it were, waiting for this.

00:21:15.820 On the subject of Donald Tusk, let's just remind folks that, correct me if I'm wrong,

00:21:21.660 but he was, when he said he was one of them, indicating that he was a leading figure in the European Union,

00:21:29.240 He was precisely the president of the European Council, right, which is the very body we're talking about now that's going to gain out of this power grab.

00:21:40.160 The European Council, by the way, folks, is the collection of the heads of government of the 27 member states.

00:21:47.640 And it also comprises, like thematically, you have all the defence ministers that will gather at these meetings or what have you, or the foreign ministers will gather at these meetings.

00:21:58.320 That's the vehicle. So Donald Tusk, the Prime Minister of Poland, is very much a European Union guy. And, you know, what you were saying, Jacob, about sort of trying to get the reforms in, the European Union, trying to get these reforms in so that in a future point, it doesn't matter even if the country changes its mind at an election.

00:22:23.380 The EU's policymaking infrastructure and diktats will be so well ingrained within the system that it will be pretty much impossible for people to choose its own destiny whilst remaining a member of the European Union.

00:22:41.280 That's pretty much the situation that the UK found itself in.

00:22:44.540 On that point, you come out of something which I loved, and that you said that you quoted Margaret Thatcher as saying that her greatest achievement was Tony Blair.

00:22:57.360 What did she mean by that, and why are you citing it in the present context?

00:23:04.020 Yeah, well, so Margaret Thatcher, when asked about this, Tony Blair, I'm sure your viewers will know and remember.

00:23:10.220 But the key point was that Tony Blair was nominally a Labour prime minister, but in effect had accepted all of the fundamental elements of Margaret Thatcher's political program, elements that maybe some of your viewers might actually agree with, although probably not her aversion to economic nationalism.

00:23:25.860 But the fundamentalists, she made this enormous change, broke the power of the trade unions in the UK, resolved the decision about a market economy, as it were, once and for all in Britain.

00:23:36.400 And Tony Blair, despite wanting a little bit more welfare spending, a bit more redistribution here and there, didn't challenge any of those fundamentals and didn't challenge and indeed strengthen the kind of managerialist, technocratic approach to government, which arguably Margaret Thatcher pioneered.

00:23:51.680 So that's why she misses his achievement. And in some ways you could say, I mean, at least lots of people are saying that that's somewhat true of Peter Magyar, the guy who's replacing Viktor Orban, because again, Orban's intellectual legacy of strong borders, strong cultural attachment to Hungary, the kind of rejection of, as it were, woke ideology, all of these things are not yet officially challenged by Peter Magyar.

00:24:13.520 So Orbán's kind of intellectual victory is to some degree kind of secure.

00:24:19.140 But that's why it's so important to realize that politics is not just about particular policies, which might change from week to week or month to month or year to year, but it's also about the question of sovereignty.

00:24:29.100 Because whilst Peter Magyar, even, I mean, I have my suspicions, but he might not even be the man to fundamentally challenge some of these policies, even if the EU manages to sneak in through the back door.

00:24:38.900 But in giving up Hungary's right to choose into the future by accepting all of these European Union institutions and kind of technocratic approaches to the government, which he's going to accept, over a period of time, he will give up the Hungarian kind of right to choose and be different on these questions.

00:24:54.700 So that's why I make the point that populism really is nothing without sovereignty.

00:24:58.120 it look so in the final sort of 45 seconds do me the great favor of just quickly going through the

00:25:05.720 the the main issues that are going to be of interest to the war room audience the lgbt

00:25:10.920 agenda ukraine immigration the relationship with russia um what on those four issues would you

00:25:19.480 expect broadly perhaps the rhetoric might change but broad continuity and where do you think uh

00:25:26.600 there will be significant change well i imagine in the short term on migration on the war with

00:25:32.080 the ukraine for example lots of things won't change but the one place i'd be especially on

00:25:36.760 the lookout for is over the question of work ideology especially in education we know that

00:25:41.540 the european union likes to begin there it likes to as it were indoctrinate people while they're

00:25:45.380 young and i suspect that the first kind of sliding that we'll see from peter bangia will be over

00:25:49.840 areas of education policy where i suspect that you'll begin to see some of the more kind of

00:25:54.680 progressive ideology begin to seep into hungarian schools jacob reynolds very very grateful for you

00:26:02.200 coming on the show today where do people go on social media to keep up with your output your

00:26:08.220 analysis your provocations and also to learn a bit more about the mcc yeah so we're on youtube

00:26:15.760 you can search mcc brussels to find us we've got a podcast that we release every week so you can

00:26:20.500 follow that on x we're quite active as well so look for at mcc underscore brussels and then i am

00:26:26.840 at jacob reynolds uh just jacob reynolds at jacob reynolds on x as well so you can find us there

00:26:31.740 but i do recommend our youtube podcast to your viewers i think they'll get a lot out of it

00:26:35.120 and that's where they can go to get your article on brussels signal as well jacob reynolds very

00:26:40.660 very grateful uh once again thanks for coming on and come back uh and give us an update on how

00:26:46.820 Peter Magyar is settling in as the new Hungarian prime minister.

00:26:51.140 Folks, don't go away.

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00:31:54.900 got the boys welcome back well that was just a scene of the race the flags group

00:32:05.920 and putting out the Union Jack flag and the English fact is flag of st. George

00:32:12.780 and in the UK the co-founder Ryan bridge was arrested earlier on this April for

00:32:21.220 and i quote uh on suspicion of causing religiously and racially aggravated harassment

00:32:28.860 and ryan bridge joins us this evening to explain exactly what happened why he was arrested uh folks

00:32:35.820 you are not going to believe this well as we go through this some of this you're going to think

00:32:40.440 this guy who's harnwell got on the show tonight this is clearly he's clearly just inventing this

00:32:45.240 and making it all up it's horrific it is a horror story ryan thanks for coming on the show

00:32:50.620 you're a great english patriot tell us right tell us a bit about why you were arrested by the police

00:32:58.080 a couple of weeks i appreciate you having us on and uh hello to everybody um so firstly it's

00:33:04.080 raise the colors so it's raise the colors.org.uk um that's our site um and also raise the colors

00:33:11.420 we are normal working class guys we are you know your patriots we like unitism patriots you know

00:33:20.020 And there's our website, as you're putting on for us now.

00:33:22.020 That's us.

00:33:22.880 And, you know, we've got an Instagram page and a Facebook page,

00:33:27.480 and we're gaining followers daily.

00:33:29.220 And the momentum we're getting that we're really interested in is

00:33:32.940 when we're on the street raising these flags on lampposts in the street,

00:33:37.660 we are getting a driving force.

00:33:39.660 Sometimes there'll be 20 guys.

00:33:41.300 In the summer months, there's, like, 50-odd guys.

00:33:43.460 It's brilliant, and it's a carnival-style atmosphere.

00:33:46.020 And it's because we feel that in the UK, we are suffering to the hands of our left-wing Labour government.

00:33:53.280 And it makes us, instead of rioting, instead of, you know, holding up places to ransom,

00:33:59.060 we believe that by putting a flag up, it makes us feel a little bit better 0.92

00:34:02.600 because we are being invaded on a daily basis by people from third worlds. 1.00

00:34:09.560 So we went to a little town called Oxford, which is in middle class central England. 1.00

00:34:14.440 and it was the white middle-class liberal left

00:34:17.020 that sort of attacked us that night.

00:34:19.060 I got attacked quite a few times myself.

00:34:23.500 And basically, yeah, they attacked me

00:34:26.020 and threw a kick and this and that.

00:34:28.080 And it's all, take the flags down, the flags are racist.

00:34:31.300 And it's just horrendous that people from the left

00:34:34.680 can think that you're being racist

00:34:36.620 because you're raising the flag of your own country.

00:34:40.440 You can see there that, you know, we've got,

00:34:42.320 you know we hire a cherry picker and we're all over the country doing this and supporting towns

00:34:47.200 and villages where they're feeling under threat because we're losing our identity in the UK we're

00:34:52.640 losing our identity of what our forefathers fought for now let's just dig into this because for our

00:35:00.080 largely American audience whenever they think of Oxford they'll probably think of a medieval

00:35:05.200 sandstone university with all this sort of picturesque spires and I mean they might they

00:35:10.300 might think of inspector morse perhaps gentile um but people in oxfordshire are living in fear

00:35:19.720 apparently they're living in fear they are they are living they're intimidated they are living

00:35:27.060 in fear and they are intimidated by the the british national flag um that is literally the

00:35:34.140 words here it was an act of intimidation and division that was said by oxfordshire county

00:35:41.100 council who are pulling these flags down um when i see these words that raising the flag

00:35:46.220 raising the colors um is an act of intimidation and division i'm just wondering are you guys

00:35:54.280 making all this up that surely this didn't actually happen right it's it's crazy to think

00:36:00.980 that you guys are saying this about the UK.

00:36:06.220 It is crazy to think that middle-class liberal left Britain

00:36:13.520 is in a state that it's in today,

00:36:15.800 where places like Shakespeare's country,

00:36:19.880 Shakespeare's home of Stratford-on-Avon, 0.85

00:36:22.520 it is completely flooded with people

00:36:24.980 that despise the flag of their country.

00:36:27.520 Oxfordshire, absolutely beautiful, beautiful English cities there

00:36:32.320 in the county of Oxfordshire.

00:36:34.860 Cambridge is the same, and it's flooded with these people

00:36:39.240 that absolutely despise the flag of their own country,

00:36:44.220 and it's because of people like Starmer who he utterly says,

00:36:49.900 we believe that people like us raising the flag are using it

00:36:53.680 as a tool of hate, and he has said that in Parliament in the UK,

00:36:57.280 and it's just disgusting for him to say

00:36:59.400 that we're using the flag of our country

00:37:01.200 that our forefathers fought for

00:37:02.840 as a tool of hate

00:37:04.360 it's just a sad

00:37:07.480 sight of affairs

00:37:08.160 now you refer

00:37:11.320 to the invasion that is taking place

00:37:13.400 the third world invasion

00:37:14.520 some of the footage of you

00:37:16.460 that you can get on YouTube

00:37:18.920 I was looking at it earlier

00:37:20.080 you're actually out there on the north coast of France

00:37:23.140 stopping the dinghies 0.91

00:37:24.940 from leaving

00:37:26.160 um which is heroic i think you know and by the way i i think that's most admirable about what

00:37:32.960 you guys are doing it's just like ordinary guys taking the initiative to do something to save

00:37:38.900 their country because they know that the the british government won't do it so the invasion

00:37:43.380 is taking place and undoubtedly undoubtedly there are many people coming in who do hate the uk and

00:37:49.280 everything that is dance for and they're coming as invaders not everybody but a huge number um

00:37:55.400 But that is a separate category of what I loathe, because what I loathe more than that, what is higher than that on my ontological hierarchy of despising is the fact that there are people like Keir Starman.

00:38:13.400 And we'll talk about it just in a few moments in the second half of this, of our chat tonight about the Oxfordshire, the lead of the Oxfordshire County Council.

00:38:25.800 And what I find objectionable about these people is that they are, they have the hatred of the United Kingdom and everything that it stands for, right?

00:38:35.840 Let me repeat this. White middle class people have a greater hatred of what the country stands for than the third world invaders coming in. And these people, our globalist elites, our sociopathic overlords, are using the fact that there are people from different cultures and backgrounds in the UK to promote their own agenda and suppress everything that is great about the UK.

00:39:02.140 is that a fair reading to you ryan or have i got that wrong no i would say you've got that that

00:39:08.280 spot on i mean we've got continents like africa where people are circumnavigating their way

00:39:13.620 through africa from third world where their education isn't as good as it is in the uk and

00:39:18.540 in europe they're getting into europe they're coming from places like pakistan afghanistan 0.99

00:39:23.300 circumnavigating their way south into syria they're coming into turkey if you go to places 0.79

00:39:29.440 like Italy now. Italy's gone. You've got Germany. It's gone. They had over a million in last year,

00:39:35.500 1.1 million. I went to Paris and investigated in Paris before I got banned from France,

00:39:42.100 because I'm also banned from going to France for reporting on this. And when I was in Paris,

00:39:47.440 Paris is completely gone, completely gone. And these people are monitoring their way through

00:39:54.480 um europe and they're being instructed to get through by the likes of care for calais hope

00:40:00.640 not hate utopia 56 and these are big companies that are pretending to be they're left-wing 0.73

00:40:08.540 ngos we call them not non-government organizations and these ngos are getting these guys to calais

00:40:14.040 and it's literally when you get to calais and dunkirk that's the way it's 11 miles over the 0.94

00:40:19.660 border and these people are risking their lives getting on these dinghies um and coming across

00:40:25.200 to the uk and we are guiding them in um literally like a taxi service on a daily basis um and we

00:40:32.880 have border force we have 11 boats on border force we have some mcs boats which collect all

00:40:38.000 the engines and i i reported on it the other week um in ramsgate a port in our in our country because

00:40:44.760 I can't leave our country at the moment because of this ban going into northern France.

00:40:49.640 And when I was there, there was 11 engines and 11 boats on there.

00:40:52.900 And it just, it made me sick to my stomach to think that that's a potential of 1,100 people that are on our shores.

00:41:01.540 And these people are coming because of the fruits of our government and what we are giving them.

00:41:05.620 We're giving them three meals a day.

00:41:07.900 We're putting them in hotels.

00:41:09.060 and these men, this isn't an asylum claim of somebody that's from a third world country

00:41:14.760 fleeing war. These are people from places like South Sudan, Eritrea, where yes, there is wars

00:41:20.720 on, but they're going through 17, 15 safe countries to get to England because we will

00:41:27.420 give them three meals a day. We will give them a shelter. We will give them a top-up credit card,

00:41:33.600 mobile phones. And these people aren't safe. And now the other side of the coin is we're

00:41:38.200 dealing with the rapes the murders and us at raise the colors we're going out there putting

00:41:44.280 flags up of our country being patriots because we feel like we're just trying to do something to

00:41:49.860 highlight that it's not normal for these people to be living in these hotels and if anything it's

00:41:55.940 encouraging more and more to come over and that's why when i've been on the beaches in france i've

00:42:00.900 seen what's coming and this year we're going to be flooded the uk is going to be flooded with

00:42:05.580 dinghies and small boats coming over from northern france and they have blocked me from coming over

00:42:10.580 so you know i thought i'll carry on flagging and now oxfordshire have now banned me from putting

00:42:14.420 a flag on for my own country in my own country it's bizarre it's it's it's borderline surreal

00:42:22.980 so let me get this right um i'm gonna get this right in my head in france they're letting in 0.99

00:42:29.680 hundreds of thousands of people from sub-saharan africa every year right but they won't let you

00:42:34.900 into france in the uk when when that you're so we've at least we've found out the one person

00:42:43.960 that france won't let cross its borders um exactly in the uk in the uk when these people get there

00:42:52.880 they're not arrested they're put in hotels at taxpayer expense to get three meals straight

00:42:57.480 meals a day you're the person being arrested right in oxford right if you're looking at the the the

00:43:03.760 the sex holocaust against women and young boys as well, frankly, 0.67

00:43:13.560 that's taking place thanks to the third world illegal invasion.

00:43:17.900 Occasionally, a judge might put one of those orders on

00:43:21.760 that won't let you go within 100 metres of someone

00:43:26.680 if they put a complaint at that.

00:43:28.500 You, however, are banned from the whole of the county

00:43:33.620 of oxfordshire right so this really it really shows it really illustrates the priorities right

00:43:41.900 of the british government this right it shows you what their price is they have the instruments of

00:43:46.840 law they won't use them to protect british citizens they'll protect they'll use them to

00:43:52.140 harass british citizens and also on youtube you can see uh the the the police coming in and

00:43:57.880 harassing you at your place of work they'll use these instruments not to stop the invasion

00:44:02.900 but against british citizens who are speaking out against the invasion ryan hold on i'm just

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00:45:32.340 back now

00:45:33.780 Ryan

00:45:36.260 tell me

00:45:37.220 tell me

00:45:39.560 give me your reaction

00:45:40.540 to what I was just saying

00:45:41.280 about the priorities

00:45:42.040 of the British state

00:45:42.800 because then I want to

00:45:44.040 talk about the

00:45:44.840 leader of

00:45:45.940 Oxfordshire County Council

00:45:47.140 have I got that right

00:45:48.400 this is the case right

00:45:49.680 you're banned

00:45:50.300 they're letting

00:45:50.760 hundreds of thousands

00:45:51.500 of Africans into France

00:45:52.960 but you're banned

00:45:54.100 in the UK

00:45:55.180 they're not arresting

00:45:56.120 people who are arriving

00:45:57.060 on the dinghies

00:45:57.820 they're arresting you

00:45:58.800 this is right

00:45:59.660 in the UK today

00:46:01.000 This is completely correct. In the UK today, if you go to northern France and you've come from a third world country or you've come from Afghanistan, Iraq, Kurdistan, Syria, Iranians, Eritrea, Somalia, Sudan, I could keep going on. 0.62

00:46:18.380 It's on and on and on. You can see these people on the boat. These aren't women and children. These are men of fighting age.

00:46:24.320 We are being invaded daily basis, yet I go out there and exploit this and take videos like the one your viewers can see on the screen now.

00:46:33.560 And when I show that these are coming over the 12-mile line, which, bear in mind, it's 23 miles to get over from France to UK, so it's not far at all.

00:46:42.740 Now, at the 100 metres away from where this boat is now, there is a French rescue boat, which will tug them to the halfway line,

00:46:51.580 and our border force will be there

00:46:54.180 to get them onto the border force boat

00:46:56.460 and we sail them in.

00:46:57.840 And then we put them in a processing centre for a day

00:47:00.500 and then they're put into these hotels.

00:47:02.380 They're walking the streets.

00:47:04.420 Towns, cities are getting flooded 1.00

00:47:06.900 with third world, 1.00

00:47:09.440 I call them illegal economic invaders 1.00

00:47:13.100 because they're not migrants 1.00

00:47:14.540 because they're not going through the front door legally. 1.00

00:47:16.560 They're going through the back door illegally

00:47:18.220 with no papers, no documents.

00:47:20.160 We don't know who they are.

00:47:21.580 Yet I'm there, and the French Interior Minister, Mr Nunes,

00:47:26.900 he then got some allegations from a company called No Borders, More Food.

00:47:33.960 So these are a left-wing company that don't believe in borders,

00:47:40.280 and they base themselves in northern France,

00:47:42.780 and they put allegations against me that I was interfering with police

00:47:46.020 and obstructing of police, and I had stole tablets off a migrant.

00:47:50.920 So when the migrant jumped on the boat, I picked up his tablets off the floor, I shot his tablets to see what they were.

00:47:57.520 They were tuberculosis tablets. 1.00

00:47:59.600 Now, the UK has eradicated tuberculosis from the 70s, yet these people are coming into our country on a daily basis,

00:48:06.660 and we don't know who they are, with things like TB, with things like scabies.

00:48:11.240 We're having outbreaks of this in all sorts of hospitals and the hotels.

00:48:17.280 We've got 44-hour wait times at our National Health Service,

00:48:21.160 yet you can't get a dentist, you can't get an optician,

00:48:25.680 things like this, yet these people are flooding in on a daily basis

00:48:29.220 and we're giving them absolutely everything.

00:48:31.980 And it's not that they're women and children,

00:48:33.720 and I'm not against looking after people from other countries

00:48:37.620 that are less fortunate.

00:48:39.060 We give enough in aid, but what's going on here? 1.00

00:48:41.600 We are being invaded on a daily basis by fighting age men.

00:48:44.660 so they banned me from they banned me from there and then to be banned by the police 0.88

00:48:48.640 from the whole the whole of oxfordshire which is i don't know how many square miles it is but it's

00:48:54.640 it's you know it's near enough from birmingham which is mid-center down to london um is is a 0.83

00:49:00.720 disgrace not just a city but from a whole um a whole counter it's massive oh it's disgusting

00:49:08.500 it's absolutely disgusting um on the subject then of because we've only got like about two minutes

00:49:13.440 left on the subject of of this i do want to ask you the leader of the council a liberal democrat

00:49:20.800 councillor liz leftman said that the scale and persistence the said that the scale and persistence

00:49:28.320 of this activity raise the colors uh putting the raising the flags is affecting communities across

00:49:34.560 oxfordshire and residents have reported feeling distressed unwelcome and unsafe the the widespread

00:49:41.120 installation of flags this is the national flag right folks it's the it's

00:49:45.380 the national flag of the UK by race the colors is not a sign of patriotism it's

00:49:50.840 an act of intimidation and division that's having a real and damaging impact

00:49:54.920 on our communities I want to ask you just like because you've got about a

00:49:58.680 minute okay when the police arrested you earlier earlier on this month and I may

00:50:05.120 for acts of intimidation and division

00:50:08.520 and creating alarm and distress.

00:50:10.900 They said that they had received complaints.

00:50:14.300 Do you know whether that's true,

00:50:16.240 whether ordinary citizens have made complaints

00:50:20.840 or whether this is being organised by the left

00:50:22.960 at a political level?

00:50:24.380 And do you have access to those complaints?

00:50:26.380 Can they be made public?

00:50:28.100 Well, we're trying to get those at the moment,

00:50:30.080 my legal team is,

00:50:31.140 we did get several complaints

00:50:33.720 and the police said that they had calls

00:50:35.880 from more than 40 people anonymously.

00:50:38.440 So we think it's the left keep phoning in

00:50:40.580 and phoning in and phoning in

00:50:41.700 and reporting what we're doing.

00:50:43.040 The police come and they go,

00:50:44.780 well, you're not doing anything wrong.

00:50:45.860 You're putting an article on a lamppost.

00:50:48.000 So for us, we're just patriots of our country

00:50:51.420 and we are, you know, to see the flag,

00:50:53.760 what you're flying now

00:50:54.760 and what's on the war room logo,

00:50:57.380 you'd be called a racist.

00:50:58.600 You would be called, you know, a Nazi 0.55

00:51:03.200 and all these sorts of words that we're being called

00:51:05.560 for flying the flag of our country,

00:51:07.220 and I don't know how we can intimidate people.

00:51:10.460 If anything, that flag eradicated Nazi Germany in 1945

00:51:15.160 and things like that.

00:51:16.300 So I don't know what these people's problem is,

00:51:18.580 and it's white middle class left.

00:51:19.960 It's not people from a predominantly black or Asian background

00:51:23.520 that don't like what we're doing.

00:51:27.000 Ryan Bridges, we've got 30 seconds.

00:51:29.680 You could talk all evening.

00:51:31.600 That's magnificent.

00:51:32.320 Raise the Colors

00:51:34.080 It is the

00:51:37.840 Raise the Colors

00:51:40.480 It is the organisation that you need to go online now

00:51:43.440 And make a donation 1.00

00:51:44.680 Ordinary working guys in the families

00:51:47.080 Supporting their country because they love their country

00:51:49.600 And they hate the fact that

00:51:51.580 The country is being destroyed

00:51:53.400 By people who hate them

00:51:54.820 Ryan Bridges, very very grateful, come back

00:51:57.020 I'll give you all the space you want on this show

00:51:59.180 That's it folks, Steve will be back at 10am

00:52:01.260 So I want to thank Victoria Santifranco and Spencer.

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Bannon's War Room - April 23, 2026

WarRoom Battleground EP 994： Brussels Aims For Greater Role Dictating EU Foreign Policy Now That Viktor Orbán’s Gone

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