Bannon's War Room - September 02, 2024


WarRoom Labor Day Special Episode 3874： ： Building Up The Grassroots

Topics
economic growth and labor rights price controls big tech influence on elections
Hosted by
Steve Bannon
Mentioned
David Barton E.J. Tony Patrick K. O'Donnell Dave Bratt Sacred Human Thomas Laws Trump Rebecca Wright Peter Navarro Sam Harris Kamala Waltz Jim Rickards Sheridan Biden Walt Clement Laird Vlandium John Morgan Strategic Intelligence John Castelline and 14 more
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On this special episode of The War Room: A Labor Day Edition, David and EJ and Tony take a look at the economic and political implications of the Trump administration's agenda. They discuss the deep state, runaway spending, and the never-ending wars that keep us in debt and unable to get our country back on track.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.760 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:13.020 I got a free shot, all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17.280 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19.180 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.620 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22.380 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:23.300 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.580 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:27.980 Mega Media.
00:00:28.880 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.760 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.520 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.920 War Room.
00:00:45.740 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:54.620 Dave Bratt in the War Room with the great Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:58.880 Bringing you a special episode today, Labor Day edition.
00:01:03.700 We're going to hit all the big themes that go with that.
00:01:06.820 We're going to start off with economics and the great EJ, who's always with us, EJ and Tony.
00:01:14.600 And I want to cover kind of some of the main themes up front,
00:01:19.560 because you may be starting to get bored a little bit, right?
00:01:22.480 On the War Room, you're starting to go, I've heard a lot of this.
00:01:26.860 What's shocking is that the mainstream media is finally starting to announce some of the things
00:01:32.580 we've been saying on the War Room for the past two, three, four years, right?
00:01:36.840 When you look at the Trump agenda, the Republican platform, and what the War Room has been covering
00:01:43.280 for years, what are the big three for all three of those, right?
00:01:47.700 For President Trump, the Republican platform, all political views of my own, and the War Room,
00:01:52.880 what have we been preaching for three years?
00:01:54.660 We've been preaching a border invasion.
00:01:57.080 That has huge economic implications.
00:01:59.160 We'll probably get on that today.
00:02:00.880 Secondly, runaway spending, the huge budget, $7 trillion budget, $2 trillion deficits, enriching
00:02:09.360 the deep state, the CIA, the FBI, they're all intermingled in the news right now.
00:02:15.020 There's headlines coming out on that.
00:02:16.280 But this stuff's finally making the news and the headlines.
00:02:19.180 So this is all good news.
00:02:20.660 And then those budgets also paying for item number three, which are the never-ending wars.
00:02:26.380 So what I've just described is the new populist revolution that's taking place, a realignment
00:02:33.620 that now has folks like RFK Jr. coming over to the light side, to the populist revolution.
00:02:41.200 And he's one of the best of the best on all three of those, right?
00:02:43.980 He knows about CIA and FBI.
00:02:47.100 His book is the best of the best.
00:02:48.760 His family's been intricately involved in that sordid history for decades.
00:02:56.380 He's huge on the never-ending wars.
00:02:59.220 He's against them all.
00:03:00.920 He wants child health.
00:03:03.080 He's huge on the censorship issue.
00:03:05.960 So we're going to be covering all this today.
00:03:08.080 But I've asked EJ and Tony on today to give reflections on Labor Day, not just the old labor.
00:03:14.520 People think of labor unions or labor rights or labor issues or all that.
00:03:18.680 I think we're moving into a new day that's going to be great for this country, where we're
00:03:23.860 all working together to sort out, how do we make this government work for us?
00:03:27.840 And so, EJ, why don't you give us your reflections on Labor Day?
00:03:31.180 What does labor mean in the past, today?
00:03:34.460 How do you view it?
00:03:35.560 Thanks for being with us.
00:03:37.620 Well, David, thanks so much for having me.
00:03:39.200 I think labor in the past, today, and forever into the future, as long as human beings are
00:03:45.000 on this earth, labor is going to be about the proceeds of your work.
00:03:50.660 And there is something good about work.
00:03:53.300 Mankind was not made to simply lounge around all day, right?
00:03:56.540 There is some kind of redemptive, almost salvific quality to working.
00:04:02.940 And again, that was true in the past.
00:04:04.520 It's true today.
00:04:05.360 It will be true in the future. 0.95
00:04:07.280 And so, I say all that, David, because there's actually something moral going on here, right?
00:04:13.300 And therefore, there's something immoral about depriving someone of the fruits of their labor.
00:04:18.820 I think, actually, the greatest condemnation for slavery has to do not so much with human
00:04:25.020 rights, but actually economic rights, believe it or not.
00:04:28.660 Again, that's not to say there aren't other reasons why slavery is evil.
00:04:33.260 But just on economic grounds alone, I think you have a very, very strong argument against
00:04:38.520 that institution.
00:04:40.400 And so, we have lots of kinds of modern-day slavery, if you will, in a financial sense
00:04:46.060 when it comes to people's labor right now, not the least of which is inflation.
00:04:50.780 Inflation is a way to rob you of the value of your money.
00:04:55.360 And when you receive that money in exchange for your labor, that means you are essentially
00:05:00.260 having to forfeit some of your labor to the government.
00:05:04.120 And within the last several years, it's not just some, it's quite a bit.
00:05:07.520 It's almost a fifth of the value of every dollar.
00:05:10.660 So, David, imagine somebody who worked their entire life and has all of their savings, let's
00:05:17.260 say, in the bank or in a 401k, whatever the case may be.
00:05:20.320 And now, all of a sudden, this tremendous amount of wealth they have acquired, they lose
00:05:24.560 a fifth of it, again, in terms of the real value, in less than four years.
00:05:29.100 I mean, that is essentially highway robbery.
00:05:31.860 The government has robbed them of that much of their lifetime earnings and all the proceeds
00:05:37.680 of that lifetime earnings.
00:05:39.120 Let's say it was invested.
00:05:40.820 And so, again, that's just one example, I think, of how a government that has run amok
00:05:45.380 that is much too big and has much too much power is essentially able to violate the sanctity
00:05:52.260 of human work.
00:05:53.860 Yeah, that's great.
00:05:56.620 I'm glad you brought in the moral piece.
00:05:59.040 We forget about that.
00:06:00.540 And this isn't morality like in the puritanical version.
00:06:04.540 We're talking about the basic dignity of human beings and getting paid and wanting to keep
00:06:09.140 your paycheck, right?
00:06:10.260 And so, when you think of the free market system, most all human history, people made
00:06:14.600 about $500 a year for all human history.
00:06:17.760 Then this wonderful thing takes place called the free market system.
00:06:21.980 We learn how to use the price system at about $1,700, and boom, right?
00:06:28.340 The growth goes up like a hockey stick.
00:06:29.860 In the U.S., we make $50,000 a year per capita now instead of $1,000.
00:06:35.660 So, a miracle.
00:06:36.980 And people don't take time to reflect on that, what that's done for labor, right?
00:06:41.960 We put capital in the hands of workers. 0.85
00:06:45.060 That's called capitalism.
00:06:46.240 Karl Marx hated that.
00:06:47.640 He hated the capitalists.
00:06:49.660 But that revolution brought us emancipation from slavery, women's entrance into the labor 1.00
00:06:56.900 force.
00:06:58.500 Economic growth is correlated with every variable that the left likes, right?
00:07:03.160 High education outcomes, high caloric outcomes on the environment.
00:07:08.500 The free market countries all have cleaner air and cleaner water than the communist countries
00:07:12.640 do.
00:07:13.480 E.J., why don't you weigh in there a little bit?
00:07:15.560 What other contributions have the free market system brought us on this Labor Day?
00:07:20.840 Because this really is a labor issue.
00:07:23.100 We need to think more broadly this way.
00:07:25.020 What markets have done for workers and for laborers? 0.93
00:07:28.880 And you teed it up just right.
00:07:30.400 What people care about is the rewards for their labor.
00:07:33.500 Well, David, one of the things that that transition to capitalism did, to free markets did for people around the world, anywhere it was implemented, was that it allowed people to keep more of the fruits of their labor.
00:07:47.960 Whereas in, let's say, a feudal system where essentially no matter how much you work beyond a certain point, you don't actually get to keep any of those proceeds.
00:07:57.760 You get to keep the bare minimum, essentially, for you and your family to survive, and everything else is going to go to your feudal lord.
00:08:04.900 And sadly, we are fast approaching a return to that, I think, with the radical left being in charge and with our monetary system becoming so corrupt.
00:08:14.260 But neither here nor there, again, looking backwards for a moment, as people were able to keep more of what they earned, they all of a sudden had a huge incentive to work more.
00:08:23.820 And it is working that we – it is by working, I should say, that we increase production, that we increase income, that we increase wealth.
00:08:32.140 And once you have an incentive all of a sudden to not just produce but to invent, to innovate, that's when we get the great inventions of mankind all begin after the implementation of the capitalist system.
00:08:47.580 And, of course, it is during those periods when the capitalist system was most free that we got the most innovation.
00:08:53.920 You know, the Roaring Twenties might be the best example of this when you had all kinds of brand-new household appliances, for example, that first, you know, were, if not invented, at least all of a sudden became affordable to the common man.
00:09:08.320 And I think that's another really important piece here, David, is the fact that your labor could get you more.
00:09:14.980 In other words, one hour of work in 1928 could get you so much more than one hour worth of work in 1728.
00:09:24.580 And the reason for that was all of the fruits of the capitalist system, which primarily benefited the lowest-wage workers.
00:09:33.260 Now, is it true that you had the J.P. Morgans, the John D. Rockefellers, the Andrew Carnegies?
00:09:38.960 Of course, absolutely.
00:09:40.180 And those guys obviously did incredibly well for themselves, right?
00:09:44.300 We're the richest men in the world at the time.
00:09:47.400 But at the end of the day, if you look at how did the lot of the ordinary man improve, the common laborer, how much better was his life?
00:09:56.100 And then you add up not just the increase in his quality of life, but multiply that by all of the common laborers in the entire country. 0.98
00:10:03.520 It's an order of magnitude greater than the benefits that were received by all of those tycoons in the Gilded Age.
00:10:11.060 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:13.200 And I used to be a little skeptical of this claim for this new feudal order coming upon us.
00:10:20.880 But I used to teach economics.
00:10:22.740 And I always ask the kids in the intro, micro or macro, I'd say, can you name one part of a house, right?
00:10:27.900 There's probably 200,000 pieces that go into a house, right?
00:10:30.720 The roof and the carpet and the heater and the kitchen, whatever.
00:10:33.380 Can you think of one part of it that's not regulated?
00:10:36.780 And they couldn't think of one piece out of 200,000 that's not regulated.
00:10:43.000 So this feudal order, right?
00:10:44.880 And now we're seeing Waltz's education plan in Minnesota.
00:10:48.720 If you haven't seen that, go Google that.
00:10:51.280 It's horrific what our feudal lords are going to force upon us.
00:10:55.800 And then just a few weeks back, the BLS, Bureau of Labor Statistics, redid our jobs numbers over 800,000 in error, overstated, of course, just 100,000 a month roughly.
00:11:14.260 And so, EJ, we've said it on The War Room.
00:11:17.780 Peter Navarro has covered this.
00:11:19.400 We've been saying this for years, right?
00:11:21.320 Not just on the labor stats, but what does this imply about our feudal lords who are running our economy right now into the ditch, by the way?
00:11:30.460 And how do we need to take our economy back to restore labor to its rightful place?
00:11:36.580 David, that's a great question.
00:11:38.020 So I actually had a piece in the New York Post just recently about this where I kind of went through how on earth did this even happen and what's going to happen with, for example, there's some Republican senators right now who are calling for an investigation.
00:11:51.320 Because they're saying, hey, we smell a rat.
00:11:53.180 Not only did we just get that huge downward revision of 800,000 jobs over a 12-month period, but on top of that, if you look at the individual monthly reports within that 12-month period, what you find is that you already had combined downward revisions in those months of several hundred thousand just in the original revisions.
00:12:14.460 Now, with the new revisions, it's a grand total of about 1.2 million jobs.
00:12:19.520 Again, we're talking a 12-month period here.
00:12:21.960 So this is a pretty significant miss.
00:12:24.500 The BLS didn't exactly get this one in the white.
00:12:27.080 How on earth did it happen?
00:12:28.560 A lot of it seems to have to do with the fact that they are misunderstanding the number of businesses currently in the economy.
00:12:37.680 The reason that's so important is because you constantly have firms being created and firms going out of business every single month.
00:12:44.660 There's nothing new about that.
00:12:46.320 But the BLS needs a way to account for those changes because each of those businesses that closes is going to lose all their employees.
00:12:54.200 But each of the businesses that opens is going to potentially hire employees.
00:12:57.980 And so, again, the BLS needs a way to try to keep track of that.
00:13:00.560 The way they have been doing it is essentially the same as the way they did it before the pandemic.
00:13:06.280 And unfortunately, the economy has changed too much.
00:13:09.000 And the statistics, the numbers just don't pencil out anymore.
00:13:12.320 In other words, they don't match up to reality.
00:13:14.500 I can give you a couple examples of that.
00:13:16.040 One is the fact that the number of businesses today that are started but then actually make it is way below the proportion from before the pandemic.
00:13:25.620 Additionally, even those firms that once they're underway actually are able to be profitable, right, they stay open, they're not employing the same number of people that they used to.
00:13:39.120 And so the consequence is that just looking at the number of businesses created is going to give you a gross overestimation of the number of businesses that are actually employing people besides just the owner.
00:13:49.780 And, again, the average number of people employed by each of those new businesses.
00:13:53.740 This is something called the birth-death model at BLS because it's looking at both the birth and the death of firms and from that trying to give this estimate.
00:14:03.780 And it has been wildly off.
00:14:05.920 And the scary thing is, David, the problems with these statistics first became evident in the spring of 2022.
00:14:13.540 And so even though there's no smoking gun here saying, oh, someone at the BLS is cooking the books for the Biden administration, to be clear, there's no evidence of that, right?
00:14:21.820 There isn't, no matter how much people have made that assertion.
00:14:25.120 What there is evidence of, however, is the fact that these problems have been evident because people like myself from outside BLS have been calling it out since the spring of 2022.
00:14:35.580 And the fact that nothing has been done is, frankly, a scandal.
00:14:40.280 Yeah, it is a scandal.
00:14:41.560 And there's other surveys, right, that they can measure up against.
00:14:44.180 They know they've got a problem on their hands.
00:14:45.620 They should at least put an asterisk in there.
00:14:47.380 We're going to get back to the implications of the slower startups and then the slower productivity within the startups.
00:14:54.660 Back with EJ and Tony right after the break.
00:14:57.540 Stay with The War Room.
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00:17:31.360 I hope you're enjoying the Labor Day weekend.
00:17:35.820 I want you to enjoy it.
00:17:37.440 As Steve would say, you know, have a hot dog.
00:17:40.420 Have your favorite dessert.
00:17:43.980 Enjoy a little bit of time with your family.
00:17:46.640 But Stephen K. Bannon is not enjoying time with his family.
00:17:51.460 The War Room never sleeps.
00:17:53.560 We have a republic to save here.
00:17:57.100 So it is Labor Day.
00:17:58.760 We're paying homage to all the workers that have come before us today, thankful for the sacrifices they made.
00:18:07.060 When you think of the average family 100 years ago or 50 years ago at World War II,
00:18:12.200 you look back at the grandparents and the great-grandparents, the sacrifices they made so the next generation could get an education for the first time in their family history.
00:18:22.220 And then you look at what we have.
00:18:24.720 And, you know, I'm not preaching to you in the war room because you're the best of the best.
00:18:30.260 But we have to encourage all of our neighbors to get out in this election cycle, right?
00:18:36.540 Every single person, if you want this economy that we've been blessed with to last the test of time, it's up to us to keep it.
00:18:45.100 We are the people, right?
00:18:47.480 We, the people, run the Congress.
00:18:49.340 They don't know that quite yet because the war room hasn't taken over, you know, half the country.
00:18:56.520 We need to get from millions and millions to 200 million people in force.
00:19:02.600 So share this program and this platform with all your friends.
00:19:05.900 This is the only place I know of where you're getting the information that we're going over today and that Peter Navarro has been covering all week and that Steve has covered for the past years, right?
00:19:17.240 Just looking over the horizon better than anyone.
00:19:20.560 So we're just very thankful on the war room today for all the work the workers have gone before us.
00:19:27.820 There's a populist revolution taking place that's joining RFK Jr. and new forces and new blood and black, brown, blue collar.
00:19:38.400 Men, women, every race is now pulling in the same direction. 0.91
00:19:43.560 We all want what's best for our kids.
00:19:45.860 We all know the things that have stopped us from achieving greatness.
00:19:49.140 It's right in front of our face.
00:19:50.400 And it's, in a lot of ways, it's tied to the federal government.
00:19:53.380 So EJ and Tony, I just gave you an outline of a huge jobs miss, right?
00:20:00.460 Over 800,000 jobs misreported.
00:20:04.200 Imagine, you know, 100,000 over, you know, 10 months in a row.
00:20:07.920 What Wall Street, you know, economic statistics and prices, stock prices are information.
00:20:13.700 That's the key part of a free market system.
00:20:16.620 And so EJ just covered why the misses occurred.
00:20:20.300 And then I'm going to ask them to weigh in just quickly on, you know, some of those misses also.
00:20:26.280 A lot of this, a lot of the gains were, of course, always in the government sector, in the education sector, et cetera.
00:20:35.380 And then on top of that, the war room for the past few years has also been treating you to the key graphs.
00:20:41.460 That's no shock to you, thanks to the border invasion.
00:20:45.880 All the new jobs have not only been government nature and sector, but none of the net jobs in the last four years have gone to American citizens.
00:20:54.860 They've all gone to foreign-born workers, right? 1.00
00:20:58.080 And again, we don't hate foreign-born workers.
00:21:00.900 They're all made in the image of God.
00:21:02.040 That's not the point.
00:21:02.740 But the point is the American people did not get to vote for that system, and they wouldn't vote for that system because, as EJ will tell you, if you have a huge influx of labor, guess what happens to the working-class wage rate?
00:21:16.280 It goes down, down, down.
00:21:18.240 So, EJ, you want to weigh in on any of those key graphs you've been covering for the last few years and just add to the urgency of people taking action and how they can take action to save our economy and our republic?
00:21:34.100 Well, David, not only – first of all, you're absolutely right on the wage growth going down as you have this huge influx.
00:21:40.220 You increase the supply of labor, particularly low-skilled labor.
00:21:44.040 But at the same time, you're also penalizing in another way the American worker who is already here by increasing his cost of living.
00:21:53.380 For example, if all of the illegal immigrants that – just the ones that we know of, let alone the ones we don't know of, but just the ones we know of under the Biden-Harris administration, if they all just went to one state, it would be – it would have increased the population of that state by more than the total population of New Jersey, which, by the way, is the most densely populated state in the country.
00:22:13.680 So, I think that gives you some kind of perspective as to how much we have increased demand for products and services like housing, for example, during the last three and a half years.
00:22:23.640 Let's not forget that all of these illegal aliens that are here, they're staying somewhere, right? 1.00
00:22:28.620 They need some kind of housing, and that is increasing the demand for housing, which is increasing the price.
00:22:33.600 So, at the same time, you are penalizing the American worker by reducing wage growth.
00:22:39.200 You're also penalizing the American worker by increasing his cost of living.
00:22:42.860 So, it's a one-two punch.
00:22:44.460 And you're absolutely right that this is America.
00:22:47.440 It is a country for Americans.
00:22:49.260 That doesn't mean non-Americans can't come here.
00:22:51.500 But it means that we should expect from our politicians that they put Americans first, America first.
00:22:58.740 That, I think, is truly what the current populist revolution is all about and what we really need to keep in mind this Labor Day.
00:23:07.900 Yeah, well said.
00:23:09.280 And so, let's go to Kamala Harris, Walt's recent addition.
00:23:17.620 They're hearing all this from the American people, and they have economic policies they've put forward, $25,000 per house for new homeowners, price controls.
00:23:33.180 I don't know if folks know what price controls are.
00:23:35.780 You may want to explain to them that all of human history, we had price controls, right, by pharaohs, kings, and despots in the last few hundred years have been the miracle.
00:23:46.160 But what do you make of the Harris-Biden economic policies coming out?
00:23:51.700 And then Walt's, and all of them, very friendly with China.
00:23:56.580 There's evidence from Comer and Jim Jordan in the committee.
00:24:00.700 This isn't conjecture anymore.
00:24:02.120 It's $30 million to the Biden family from China.
00:24:04.620 What does all this portend for our economy, EJ?
00:24:08.660 Well, David, it definitely seems like the Kamala Waltz ticket is really trying to feel out where the American people are.
00:24:15.040 The reason I say that is because when you go to the website, it's been up for quite a while now.
00:24:19.600 There are literally no economic policies anywhere at all.
00:24:23.140 So, in other words, they have no positions.
00:24:25.180 And so, every time they bring one up, it's always essentially informal.
00:24:30.120 In other words, it's done at a rally or something.
00:24:32.840 But then they keep walking it back afterwards.
00:24:35.220 You mentioned price controls.
00:24:36.480 They talked about price controls.
00:24:37.540 Then all of a sudden, all the campaign surrogates are trying to walk it back, saying, no, no, no, we didn't really mean that because the American people are saying, wait a second, this smells like communism.
00:24:46.720 You know, same thing with this crazy idea to tax unrealized capital gains.
00:24:50.580 I think CNN said that.
00:24:52.700 CNN, even CNN came out against them on the price controls.
00:24:55.920 Is that right?
00:24:57.120 That's exactly right.
00:24:58.340 You know it's bad on the left when you've lost CNN.
00:25:02.360 And, you know, you even had outlets like the New York Times, for example, and other, again, very left-wing outlets pointing out the fact that, you know, your opponents are accusing you of communism and your solution was to announce a communist policy.
00:25:14.580 So what are price controls?
00:25:17.080 I know you had asked about that, David.
00:25:18.220 That's essentially when the government tells you you will sell something for this price or lower.
00:25:24.960 You know, sometimes you will have price floors where it's the opposite.
00:25:28.200 You can't have a price below a certain level.
00:25:30.420 But for the most part, these things are setting a ceiling.
00:25:32.820 So the price can't go above that.
00:25:34.820 Right.
00:25:35.340 OK.
00:25:35.720 So this was famously tried with Emperor Diocletian in the ancient Roman Empire.
00:25:41.160 It led to widespread shortages then.
00:25:43.660 And it has constantly, or I should say consistently, always led to those shortages.
00:25:49.240 You know, in the 1970s, for example, we had three different presidential administrations from both parties who tried wage and price controls every single time it led to shortages.
00:25:58.300 Why?
00:25:58.700 Because you're essentially telling a producer it is illegal for you to sell this profitably.
00:26:04.060 And so a lot of producers then will simply stop selling.
00:26:07.120 And it is only the most profitable ones who remain.
00:26:09.420 So you're supplying a much lower quantity to the market at the same time the market is demanding a much higher quantity.
00:26:15.380 Why is demand going up?
00:26:16.520 Because you are telling consumers, look, this item can only be sold for a certain amount, which is less than what it was previously being sold for.
00:26:25.400 Well, if the price of something goes down, I want to buy more of it, not less.
00:26:28.800 So you are simultaneously reducing supply while you increase demand.
00:26:33.480 That's how you get a shortage.
00:26:34.660 When we did this in the 1970s with fuel, we got gas lines.
00:26:37.940 If we do it today with food, like Kamala wants to do, we're going to get bread lines. 1.00
00:26:41.900 And you can look at that.
00:26:42.860 That literally happened in Venezuela, for example, just a few years ago, where, David, after they had fully implemented all of their price controls on food, on groceries, within a year of being fully implemented, there were no zoos left in the country.
00:26:57.700 They all closed down because the people broke into the zoos to eat the zoo animals because they were literally eating anything they could since they were all starving.
00:27:07.420 That is the kind of thing you will bring to this country if you implement those kinds of policies.
00:27:13.880 Import third world policies. 0.89
00:27:15.840 Import third world results.
00:27:19.040 Yep.
00:27:19.720 Well said, EJ.
00:27:20.820 We're going to hold EJ over the break.
00:27:23.040 We're going to do a lightning round with him.
00:27:24.880 Before we get to it, everybody go look at this article, Not Capitalism, in Zero Hedge Today.
00:27:32.740 I'm going to do a lightning round with EJ when we get back.
00:27:35.860 He's going to do a fact check on me.
00:27:38.260 I'm going to read through 10 propositions.
00:27:40.340 But this is a great article to share.
00:27:42.540 It's got both a free market lean to it about what capitalism should be, but it's also got the full populist frontal assault of what needs to happen.
00:27:53.720 So we're going to be back with EJ and Tony after the break.
00:27:57.800 And then we have our special guest, of course, Patrick O'Donnell, America's military historian.
00:28:03.720 Steve Bannon's favorite military historian.
00:28:06.380 To hear those two go off is just fun every time.
00:28:09.820 He'll be with us again after the break as well.
00:28:12.180 Stay tuned to The War Room.
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00:30:08.580 Back in the war room, E.J. and Tony, Dave Bratt, sitting in with Stephen K. Bannon.
00:30:17.440 I forgot to open in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
00:30:20.760 Amen.
00:30:21.920 We're always remembering Steve, praying for him.
00:30:24.780 I hope you are.
00:30:26.040 Everybody, this is a great piece.
00:30:27.660 I've got another very special guest coming up on another show.
00:30:32.940 I'm not going to tell you who it is.
00:30:34.620 This is a great—go look at this or get your kids reading this thing.
00:30:38.180 Share this.
00:30:38.580 This is not capitalism.
00:30:40.100 Zero hedge.
00:30:41.240 I've never seen—it's kind of funny.
00:30:42.900 That's why I'm kind of laughing.
00:30:43.920 It's so well done.
00:30:45.920 E.J., we're going to just do a lightning round.
00:30:48.480 You're a fact checker.
00:30:49.740 Give me your one-sentence response to each of these categories, right, whether true, false, and what you make of it.
00:30:56.420 Number one, the lead introduction, I'll just read one sentence.
00:31:01.380 Ideally, the economic system of a society is supposed to be based on consent, all right?
00:31:07.420 So now here come the ten.
00:31:09.200 Number one, governments have become a main customer of tech and media platforms, instilling an ethos of political deference and cooperation.
00:31:17.600 You saw the headlines this week from meta, resulting in surveillance, propaganda, and censorship.
00:31:24.580 E.J., true, false, and what do you make of it?
00:31:27.420 A hundred percent true.
00:31:29.000 You need look no further than the last several years to see how much big tech has tried to influence elections in order to appease their political overlords.
00:31:38.640 Yep, good.
00:31:39.600 I'm going to even go quicker because these are just so easy.
00:31:42.460 The U.S. has a medical cartel.
00:31:44.920 If you haven't watched the Tucker interview with the Stanford couple on there, make sure you see that.
00:31:53.540 E.J., the U.S. has a medical cartel.
00:31:57.020 True.
00:31:57.560 There's a lot more money to be made in keeping people sick than in getting them healthy.
00:32:01.260 Three, the U.S. has an educational system.
00:32:05.320 And I'm truncating these folks.
00:32:07.420 They're very well done.
00:32:09.720 The U.S. has an educational system that is mostly government-funded blocks, competition, forces participation, waste students' time.
00:32:16.720 12 percent of third graders in Chicago City can read.
00:32:21.360 E.J. are illiterate. 1.00
00:32:23.740 E.J., how are we doing on education?
00:32:26.720 Quite poorly.
00:32:27.720 It's the reason why we, frankly, have such—it's the reason why we have an electorate that buys into so much of the nonsense from the radical left.
00:32:36.160 Four, agricultural subsidies that build vast industries.
00:32:42.380 RFK Jr. is going to be on this.
00:32:45.640 What do you make of our agricultural system?
00:32:50.120 Again, unfortunately, it mirrors some of the other industries we're talking about here, where there is far too much government involvement,
00:32:57.480 and the free market system is not permitted to bring better quality products to the consumer at a lower price.
00:33:03.640 Number five, on Labor Day, a point E.J. drove home in our analysis earlier, a wildly complicated and confiscatory system of taxation, et cetera, et cetera.
00:33:16.220 E.J.?
00:33:17.860 Not only do manufacturing employers pay tens of thousands of dollars' worth in taxes per employee,
00:33:27.680 they pay tens of thousands of dollars' worth of regulatory costs as well.
00:33:31.860 That's one of the reasons why it's so hard to create manufacturing jobs here in the United States and why those jobs get shipped overseas.
00:33:39.920 Fiat, paper money, floating exchange system, 1971, called the Federal Reserve, has caused all sorts of misery.
00:33:46.520 True or false?
00:33:48.280 100% true.
00:33:49.500 That's the most true of them all.
00:33:51.440 It's unbelievable.
00:33:52.760 Seven, the court system invites extortionist litigation that the small guy cannot afford.
00:33:59.260 It has become a game.
00:34:00.820 They sue you.
00:34:01.580 If you're small, you lose.
00:34:03.440 It's a game.
00:34:05.400 It certainly is.
00:34:06.680 And unfortunately, that kind of setup is one of the reasons why the regulatory state is as big as it is.
00:34:12.060 It allows the big corporations with their big corporate attorneys to fight those regulations and be the only ones left in the game.
00:34:20.560 All right, folks, you're getting the pattern here.
00:34:22.680 Eight, a patent system.
00:34:23.980 That's a little heavy duty.
00:34:25.280 Nine, an authentic property rights system.
00:34:27.260 That's heavy duty.
00:34:28.520 But ten, let's just close on an all-time winner that's going to be probably the basis of this next election.
00:34:34.800 A bloated federal budget supports 420-plus agencies that lord it over the whole of commercial society, ballooning up compliance costs for entrepreneurs, creating vast uncertainty about the rules of the game.
00:34:48.300 E.J. and Tony, close us on that one.
00:34:51.880 100% correct, David.
00:34:53.420 Not only does all of that cost money, which has to be taken from the private market, so you're reducing efficient production.
00:35:00.960 But on top of that, as you said, it also makes the rest of the production that is left much more inefficient because it's imposing all those costs on businesses and on individuals.
00:35:13.340 E.J. and Tony, thanks for being with us on The War Room.
00:35:16.540 Thanks for all your life's work on economics.
00:35:19.560 It's a service to our country and to God.
00:35:22.080 And we're very thankful for you.
00:35:23.400 How do people get to you and your writings?
00:35:25.900 Best place to find me on X.
00:35:27.580 You're going to see everything there.
00:35:28.760 The handle there is at real E.J. and Tony.
00:35:33.020 All right, brother.
00:35:33.880 Thanks for being with us.
00:35:35.660 Thank you.
00:35:36.340 All right.
00:35:36.680 We're back with Patrick O'Donnell in The War Room.
00:35:40.680 Patrick is one of Steve Bannon's favorites.
00:35:44.020 When they go at it, it's just fun to hear them spar back and forward.
00:35:48.040 I wish I could do justice in his realm.
00:35:51.160 But, Patrick, thanks for being on The War Room with us today.
00:35:54.220 And I think you probably overheard some of the past economic sparring and analysis over what it means for us on Labor Day, right?
00:36:05.160 Trying to keep the fruits of our labor.
00:36:08.480 You're here as a military historian going back a lot of times to the Revolutionary period, the Civil War period.
00:36:15.620 What comes to mind for you when you reflect on Labor Day and all we have to be truly thankful for in this country?
00:36:24.840 Dave, it's great to be with you today.
00:36:26.680 And what I think about is 248 years ago, around this time, the Battle of Brooklyn was raging.
00:36:34.340 And it was at that time that we almost lost the United States.
00:36:37.540 But what's interesting is when the Hessian troops, these are men that were recruited by Great Britain to fight in their service, came to the United States, they were amazed by the standard of living that we had in 1776, which at the time was the highest in the world.
00:36:54.480 It was also – the United States Army, the Continental Army, was made up of men that could read and write.
00:37:01.600 It was the most literate army in the world at the time.
00:37:05.100 And this is all about American growth, which was dynamic then, and it's what we need to continue now.
00:37:14.100 And I reflect back about what was going on 248 years ago, and it was a time where everything could have almost been lost.
00:37:21.400 And, you know, it was for a handful of Americans that stepped up that really did the impossible.
00:37:30.220 This is where the crown comes over with two-thirds of their navy and almost practically most of their army and also brings over these volunteers – well, not volunteers, that the Princetons and fiefdoms in Germany basically loaned out their troops.
00:37:47.020 These men were serfs for the most part, and they were forced to fight in the Hessian forces, tens of thousands of men.
00:37:56.440 They were there to crush America. 0.94
00:37:59.640 And, you know, this is a time when America ideas are more powerful than anything else.
00:38:05.060 The American ideal of freedom and liberty is novel at the time.
00:38:09.600 This is groundbreaking.
00:38:10.380 This is what people are fighting for, and they're there to crush us with this massive army.
00:38:18.520 And the Battle of Brooklyn is raging.
00:38:20.480 There's an American thermopoly where the Marylanders, you know, 248 men of honor, family, and fortune make a stand, an epic stand with bayonets.
00:38:32.840 They're one of the few units that actually has them.
00:38:34.760 They make multiple charges into Cornwallis' lines, and they allow the army to escape.
00:38:41.160 And it's, you know, it's in this period of about two or three days.
00:38:44.400 Then there's a massive rainstorm and thunderstorm, and Washington has to decide what to do, and he wisely decides to retreat.
00:38:52.160 And this sets up, you know, really one of the greatest evacuations in military history where, for all intents and purposes, it probably shouldn't have worked.
00:39:02.180 But, you know, they have to transport somehow over 10,000 troops, including the wounded and their equipment, across the East River, which is over a mile long, and make multiple trips doing it.
00:39:14.840 And I wrote a book called The Unvanquished – I mean, I'm sorry, The Washington's Immortals, which tells the story of the Marylanders, and The Indispensables, which tells the story of the Marblehead men, that somehow brought it off.
00:39:27.020 And it's the hand of God that comes in because it's a race against time to somehow get the army across.
00:39:34.420 Well, oh, by the way, you have tens of thousands of British and Hessian troops that are really just about to pounce on the army and destroy it, and they somehow do it by the hand of God, which miraculously a fog sets in, which screens the movement of all these small boats and brings them across and allows the American system to continue.
00:39:57.380 And, I mean, this is – the time of the revolution is a hard one.
00:40:00.100 When you think about today, what you've got going on is inflation is just beginning to start to rage.
00:40:07.020 It would take $1.5 – they were called Continentals, they were printed by the Congress at the time – to equal one silver coin, which was equivalent.
00:40:20.740 And as the years would go by, in the first year or two, it would go all the way up to 100 to 1.
00:40:27.320 So inflation was massively raging.
00:40:30.320 There's basically a depression that hits the United States, the first.
00:40:35.540 And people are somehow navigating all of this and fighting the greatest army in the world at the time.
00:40:41.740 And these are citizen soldiers, Dave.
00:40:44.460 They're not professionals that eventually will go back to their farms or, in many cases, their skilled tradesmen, their laborers.
00:40:52.360 There are also, you know, blacksmiths and mechanics, et cetera.
00:41:00.000 Yeah, no, thanks.
00:41:01.180 Say a couple – a little bit more.
00:41:03.060 We've got a couple minutes until the break, and then we'll have you back after the break for the whole next slot as well.
00:41:08.620 But, you know, what gave people that backbone?
00:41:11.100 The war room posse, right?
00:41:12.880 The folks that watch the show, they're the tough ones, right?
00:41:16.740 And we're outflanked, outmanned.
00:41:20.060 We're fighting global forces with billions and trillions of dollars.
00:41:24.100 We're fighting the United Nations.
00:41:26.140 Everybody knows.
00:41:27.100 We're fighting elections.
00:41:28.640 The president was just nearly assassinated.
00:41:33.660 We have good news coming our way.
00:41:35.920 But the hand of God, was it perceived by those folks that the hand of God was with them?
00:41:40.560 And how did that small force – and how small was it relative to what we have?
00:41:45.660 It seems to me that we still have over half the country with us, right?
00:41:49.480 For us – and we have every wealth imaginable today.
00:41:53.740 So it seems to me like times were much tougher back then.
00:41:57.020 And in faith, they pulled it out with strong conviction, courage, and a backbone.
00:42:01.640 I'm not sure if we got that here today in this country.
00:42:04.300 But say a little more on that before we go to break, and we'll come back.
00:42:06.780 It was a situation where basically one-third of the country would be patriots.
00:42:12.280 Another third would be loyal subjects to the crown.
00:42:17.140 And another third would be wishy-washy.
00:42:20.340 And as they tell in Washington's Immortals and the Inuspects, you would see people change sides.
00:42:26.160 And a lot of this had to do with the outcome of battles on the battlefield.
00:42:29.800 And victories would change the course of perceptions.
00:42:33.880 At that time, the continental press was also divided.
00:42:39.380 There were loyalist presses and independent patriot presses.
00:42:43.020 But by and large, the press was pro-America, pro-patriot.
00:42:48.800 Thank goodness.
00:42:49.460 And that would, of course, change over time, including the American Civil War, where the democracy would be in possession of the press.
00:42:56.200 But this is an incredibly fluid situation.
00:43:00.700 It's America's first civil war.
00:43:03.340 And everything was arrayed against it.
00:43:05.000 I mean, the greatest military power in the world at the time was there to crush America.
00:43:10.620 And they had never lost an insurrection in their entire history as an empire.
00:43:15.640 And the results were severe for anybody that betrayed the crown.
00:43:21.720 I mean, in Ireland, they put it down by crucifying people, like drawing and courting them. 0.93
00:43:27.480 You know, they were vicious and ruthless.
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00:45:52.300 Back in the war room with the great Stephen K. Bannon, David Bratt sitting in today.
00:45:56.880 We got Patrick O'Donnell, America's premier war historian.
00:46:01.380 Hearing him and Steve go at it is great.
00:46:03.680 You can see why his last comments I thought were just profound
00:46:07.660 and give us a sense of who we are as Americans.
00:46:10.740 You look back at history to get a sense of vision for the future, right?
00:46:15.840 The greats.
00:46:16.880 You look at the greatness.
00:46:19.020 And so, Patrick, I'm curious as a war historian.
00:46:23.160 You know, today we see our institutions are under just incredible duress.
00:46:29.320 Even the military, right?
00:46:31.000 The CIA and the FBI.
00:46:32.560 I mean, the favorables, I think, are down in the 10s or 15s.
00:46:36.140 There's something in this, the trust that we have in these key institutions for oversight
00:46:42.580 are just huge.
00:46:44.300 Back in the day, were there any surprises?
00:46:47.640 I'm kind of lobbing this at you, but I'm just curious.
00:46:51.420 At war, the American people, you know, they put their trust in Washington and these generals.
00:46:57.060 And they, anyone that supported that war, they're putting their life on the line.
00:47:02.640 Were there any ever good news stories?
00:47:05.020 And the reason I ask is, I think there are all sorts of decent people in our military,
00:47:09.660 right?
00:47:10.120 Most, right?
00:47:10.840 Just like most of America.
00:47:12.620 Most of the CIA.
00:47:13.940 I'm praying.
00:47:15.060 Most of the FBI.
00:47:16.580 And I'm just waiting.
00:47:17.560 Like, where are the whistleblowers?
00:47:19.100 Where are the people who come through in the end?
00:47:21.220 When it all comes to a head, you have any stories from, you know, the Revolutionary War,
00:47:27.140 the Civil War, where the good guys came out in force and just, you know, shocked everyone
00:47:32.180 in a good way, where there's just good news, where you see the basic goodness, or just of
00:47:37.200 the American people?
00:47:38.260 Stories of support for the troops, just sacrifice for the country that just comes through that's
00:47:44.340 just totally unexpected?
00:47:45.420 Oh, my books are replete with stories of Americans that do the impossible. 0.71
00:47:54.040 It's, you know, I mean, one that comes to mind is in the American Civil War.
00:48:00.820 It's 1864.
00:48:02.940 It's around this time period where everything is going poorly for the Union at this time.
00:48:08.840 And an example of somebody that kind of puts it all on the line is a slave named Thomas
00:48:17.260 Laws, and he lives in Winchester, Virginia.
00:48:20.820 And if he's caught, he'll be executed, including his family.
00:48:26.480 But he puts it all on the line, and he's willing to deliver a message to a schoolteacher
00:48:32.040 named Rebecca Wright in Winchester, who also puts it all on the line.
00:48:37.500 And she lives in a family that is divided.
00:48:41.860 She is a Quaker, but she's, you know, her brother fights for the South.
00:48:46.360 Her mother's, you know, kind of in between.
00:48:48.740 And she delivers a crucial piece of information through the context that she has to Thomas Laws
00:48:56.080 that a brigade is leaving from Jubal Early's army.
00:48:59.100 And with that little piece of information, which the Jesse Scouts, who my book's about, it's
00:49:06.460 about Lincoln Special Forces, kind of coordinate all of this.
00:49:09.520 They put together the context.
00:49:11.200 They link these people together, and they deliver the message.
00:49:13.920 That little piece of information is so important that it changes the course of the war in something
00:49:21.040 called the Third Battle of Winchester.
00:49:23.460 And General Sheridan, who's an incredible—this is another person that is dynamic, that will
00:49:30.080 change the course of the war through his actions on the saddle.
00:49:33.340 My book is about people doing things that are just incredible.
00:49:37.300 I mean, everybody from Thomas Laws to Rebecca Wright or General Sheridan, who's on his horse,
00:49:42.680 that changed the course of the Third Battle of Winchester, or also the Battle of Cedar Creek.
00:49:48.320 And what this does is it has a profound impact on the election itself of 1864, which at that
00:49:54.260 time was as important as the election of 2024.
00:49:58.780 It was the most important election in American history up until that point, where everything
00:50:03.540 was on the line.
00:50:04.440 And, you know, whether or not we would continue as the United States or if the South would have
00:50:10.840 its own independence.
00:50:12.440 And, you know, the book gets into election interference.
00:50:15.780 It gets into the things that are going on with the election of 1864, which are also fascinating.
00:50:22.380 Oh, by the way, the Democrats had their convention in Chicago at exactly this time as well.
00:50:28.840 And they believed that the war was lost.
00:50:30.680 And they believed in an armistice, and they also believed in something called the continuance
00:50:35.600 of existing law, which was the continuance of slavery at that time, which they promoted.
00:50:41.240 And it would be a Confederate Secret Service agent who was actually the person that wrote
00:50:47.020 the campaign platform for the Democratic Party, a guy by the name of Clement Laird Vlandium,
00:50:51.920 who was a former congressman from Ohio that had been exiled by President Lincoln to Canada.
00:50:57.760 And he was in the coffers and basically under the complete influence of the Confederate
00:51:01.940 Secret Service at the time, which had plied him with gold and the rising movement in that
00:51:07.860 party, which is the Copperhead Movement, which was hundreds of thousands strong.
00:51:12.920 And they had planned an insurrection as well, which is fascinating in and of itself.
00:51:18.560 We talk about color revolutions, and this is arguably the origins of that from a modern 0.94
00:51:24.280 war perspective, where these men, who were really quite dynamic in the Confederate Secret
00:51:30.540 Service, they were part of John Hunt Morgan's Raiders that entered Ohio.
00:51:35.220 And almost to a man, these guys are incredible in and of themselves.
00:51:38.740 They're escape artists.
00:51:40.700 The main guy, Thomas Hines, literally digs his way out of the Ohio Penitentiary through
00:51:47.800 a ventilation shaft and frees many of his men, along with his main guy, John Castleman.
00:51:53.900 And then they set up operations in Canada where they decide to devise something called the
00:52:00.040 Northwest Conspiracy, which is this color revolution.
00:52:05.100 Patrick, we could go on.
00:52:06.820 And they do give you a sense of hope, but I want to make sure people know how to get
00:52:11.560 your books.
00:52:12.120 How do they get you?
00:52:12.800 You got 30 seconds left.
00:52:15.700 Amazon.com is the best place to go, or the front of Barnes & Noble.
00:52:19.260 It's right there.
00:52:20.380 My Twitter handle is at Combat Historian, as well as Getter.
00:52:26.940 That's great.
00:52:27.540 You mentioned Copperheads.
00:52:28.960 One of my good friends did a few great films, Gettysburg, Copperheads, et cetera.
00:52:33.660 I just want to give a shout out to him.
00:52:35.420 Thanks to all these patriots and American historians.
00:52:39.860 Thank you so much for being with us on The War Room.
00:52:42.960 Again, next hour block hosted by Grace the Great.
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