Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Special Coverage： Trump’s Mission To Israel

00:00:00.000 Dead of the night, when the world is sleeping, Real America's Voice is live.

00:00:05.520 This Monday, 2 a.m. Eastern, history takes plight.

00:00:10.160 Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel, leading a high-stakes mission for peace

00:00:14.800 and the long-awaited release of hostages.

00:00:18.020 After months of war and heartbreak, a breakthrough, a ceasefire, hostage releases,

00:00:23.360 and the first steps towards a lasting Jerusalem accord,

00:00:26.720 Steve Bannon leads Real America's Voice live coverage,

00:00:31.100 joined by powerful voices from Jerusalem as the world watches this historic moment unfold.

00:00:37.560 From conflict to compromise, from division to deliverance,

00:00:41.660 this is leadership on the world stage, this is history in motion, this is Real America's Voice.

00:00:49.380 RAV presents Trump's triumphant mission to Israel.

00:00:52.720 Live coverage begins this Monday at 2 a.m. Eastern, only on Real America's Voice.

00:01:02.100 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:01:07.160 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:01:12.480 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:01:16.720 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:01:18.620 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:01:19.820 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:01:22.760 It's going to happen.

00:01:24.040 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:01:27.440 MAGA media.

00:01:28.780 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:01:34.180 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:01:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:01:44.200 War Room.

00:01:45.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:01:49.820 It's Monday, 13 October, in the year of our Lord, 2025.

00:01:57.920 It is Columbus Day here in the United States of America, of course.

00:02:01.920 Dramatic.

00:02:03.060 Let's go ahead and put the footage.

00:02:04.200 We've got some amazing footage of Hostage Square in Tel Aviv.

00:02:09.580 We've got footage of Ream Air Force Base, where the hostages are actually currently seven that have already been released.

00:02:14.860 Also, other spots in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, we are, we have with us this morning, we're going to have Kurt Mills from the American Conservative, our own Ben Harnwell, international editor, live in Rome.

00:02:29.760 The great Jack Pasovic pulling an overnight shift here with us.

00:02:33.480 Joel Gilbert in Los Angeles, an expert filmmaker, an expert on the Middle East.

00:02:39.820 But I want to start with Matt Faraci, who's actually live in Jerusalem.

00:02:45.040 Matt, put in context, what this day, this is over a two-year war, coming off the most brutal slaughter the Jews have had since the Holocaust.

00:02:56.040 Very contentious, this war in Jerusalem, in Israel, kind of torn about these, the nation's torn apart, really, about the hostages and how the situation was handled, how the war was prosecuted.

00:03:08.480 But what does the today mean with the President of the United States about to arrive in Jerusalem on Air Force One to meet Netanyahu, welcome some hostages back, and then address the Israeli nation at the Knesset, sir?

00:03:24.420 Good morning, Steve. Great to be with you.

00:03:26.600 We are here in Jerusalem on Jaffa Street.

00:03:29.520 This place is going to be banging here in a bit. 0.93

00:03:32.340 This is one of the sort of most busy places in Jerusalem where Israelis come.

00:03:37.860 I was reminded this morning, Steve, what a small country this is and how everybody has been impacted by this.

00:03:45.120 The camera operator that I'm working with this morning, we were looking at some of the hostages being released, and two of the guys are called the Berman Twins, and he worked with them before.

00:03:57.180 And he knows a lot of people in the company that they worked with, very respected guys.

00:04:02.920 I've got family members who have said the same thing.

00:04:05.560 They knew people that either got abducted on October 7th or got attacked or, you know, whatever happened.

00:04:11.280 So it's really, if you want to think of it this way, Steve, it's a family rejoicing for what's happening today.

00:04:18.340 They're excited.

00:04:19.560 To say they're excited to have President Trump is perhaps the understatement of the century.

00:04:23.960 So I'm trying to find a word that encapsulates how thrilled people are that President Trump is here.

00:04:30.520 The streets are all gated off with extra security for the motorcade to be able to come down to the Knesset.

00:04:37.660 So there is a lot of anticipation this morning, Steve, as you noted, as the hostages are being released.

00:04:43.860 On the downside, there's a lot of violence being reported and videos being uploaded in Gaza now that Hamas, you know, temporarily has the IDF stepping back.

00:04:55.780 They're shooting a lot of people and shooting these rival clans, and there's a lot of brutality taking place in Gaza right now.

00:05:01.780 Yeah, it seems to be like these open Klan wars and people were collaborating.

00:05:07.480 We're going to get to that in a minute.

00:05:08.640 But here's the thing.

00:05:09.440 I noticed even CNN and BBC, people, the news people, and even here at the war, a little bit overwhelming, the emotional reaction to this by the Israeli people.

00:05:20.640 I mean, now it's like two or three days they've been in hostage square in Tel Aviv throughout the nation.

00:05:26.980 You see at Ream Air Force Base, thousands of people there to greet them.

00:05:30.600 Were you anticipating it would be this emotional for the Israeli people?

00:05:37.300 Yeah, I was because, again, because everybody either knows a hostage or knows a soldier that died in Gaza or knows somebody that was impacted or has it in their family.

00:05:49.240 I have friends that I've gone to synagogue with who, you know, a father who lost a son, a rabbi I know who thought his son was alive inside Gaza for 10 months and only to find out later he had been killed on October 7th.

00:06:04.380 So because everybody has been so closely impacted by this, because so many have been called up into the army over the last two years and have had to leave their jobs, because so many families have been impacted, I think there's a collective family sigh of relief among the Jewish people today.

00:06:21.020 And that's why you see the celebrating.

00:06:22.340 Matt, just hang there.

00:06:26.880 Matt Afarachi's in Jerusalem for us.

00:06:28.700 Let's go to Joel Gilbert.

00:06:29.760 Joel, you're as close as it comes to being an expert in the area.

00:06:34.400 You're a filmmaker, made many films about this.

00:06:36.420 You're very, you went to what, the London, to college in London, learned under some of the great scholars in the West, both Greek and Jewish, about Islam and political Islam.

00:06:50.380 Your thoughts today, because President Trump's coming, he's going to meet the hostages.

00:06:54.280 Obviously, this is very important for him.

00:06:57.660 President Trump has got a big heart, as I think people realize, but he's also going to address the Israeli people at the Knesset.

00:07:03.340 And then he's going to actually go to Egypt for this, I guess you'd call it a peace conference, which Netanyahu was not invited to, is what we understand.

00:07:13.580 Your thoughts on this?

00:07:15.740 My thoughts are that today Israel gets a bone. 0.98

00:07:19.300 They get 20 hostages back.

00:07:21.880 They get President Trump visiting Israel, which is a very emotionally reward for the Israeli people.

00:07:29.000 But what's coming in Egypt, about four hours later this afternoon, we have an entire cabal of the Gulf Arabs, Turkey and Egypt, and even, I believe, the Prime Minister of England and Canada is coming.

00:07:43.360 And their goal is to turn the end of this war into a political defeat for Israel, to make sure that Hamas and the Palestinian Arabs gain statehood, rebuilding of Gaza, and to put together a coalition that will demand that Israel withdraw from half of Jerusalem, the West Bank, and create a Palestinian state.

00:08:05.040 So I think the forces are aligning politically in Sharm el-Sheikh to try to bring about an Israeli political defeat from the end of this conflict.

00:08:15.980 And they're also going to try to have elections in Israel next year, and they're going to try to turn this entire episode against Israel politically.

00:08:24.560 That's what I see what's coming.

00:08:26.060 But today is where Israel gets to at least celebrate before all these political developments, I think, start aligning against them.

00:08:34.740 You have, by the way, Macron is also coming.

00:08:38.060 Keir Starmer, Sir Keir Starmer's coming, and Macron is coming.

00:08:41.980 If Macron's coming, you know it's got to be bad news, right?

00:08:45.840 I want to mention something.

00:08:47.100 There's a gaggle on Air Force One.

00:08:49.700 It's about 20 minutes long.

00:08:50.880 We're going to try to break it down and play segments of it.

00:08:52.840 But before I go to Poso, last night Netanyahu addressed the nation through a video he made.

00:09:01.480 And in a video he made, he said, hey, the Gaza part of this war is over, but the overall war continues on. 0.75

00:09:07.880 He said this in Hebrew.

00:09:09.400 And I think President Trump was asked about this on Air Force One, and he reiterated, the war is over.

00:09:14.880 And he couldn't have been more definitive.

00:09:17.180 What are your thoughts about this?

00:09:18.960 What Netanyahu is telling the people in Israel and Hebrew versus President Trump's mindset about this?

00:09:27.760 Well, Netanyahu stated early on and has consistently said that there are dual goals.

00:09:32.800 One is to release the hostages, and secondly is to disarm and dismantle Hamas and make sure that Gaza is no longer a threat to Israel.

00:09:40.700 Now, this came about because Israel had the foolish idea that by turning over Gaza to the PLO, to terrorist groups, that peace would break out back in 2006, and they were woefully wrong.

00:09:53.820 Now Israel has said, okay, we're getting the hostages back, but I think that Hamas has no intention of disarming. 0.92

00:10:01.020 I think Hamas is looking to do the Hezbollah model in Lebanon. 0.97

00:10:04.220 Hamas doesn't want to govern anymore. 0.75

00:10:06.940 They don't want to be in charge of governing, but they would like to be a heavily armed group that really controls everything and can still threaten Israel. 0.95

00:10:14.900 I don't see any mechanism whatsoever that any international body is going to want to go into Gaza and disarm Hamas.

00:10:22.420 So Bibi has kind of been cornered a little bit from the situation.

00:10:27.060 Trump is saying, no, the war is over, you can't continue, but Bibi is not giving up on one of his main goals, which is Hamas will be disarmed and dismantled.

00:10:36.280 So that's one of the conflicts that we're going to see coming out of this celebration is Hamas not going anywhere

00:10:43.800 and the world aligning politically in Sharm el-Sheikh to rebuild Gaza and demand a Palestinian state.

00:10:53.240 Joe, hang on for a second.

00:10:54.700 Let's go to Jack Pasovic.

00:10:55.840 Jack, you've been on many of these trips with the president.

00:10:58.820 You followed this very closely from the beginning.

00:11:00.920 You and I covered this live on the day that it happened, October 7th.

00:11:05.040 It was a Saturday.

00:11:05.780 Your thoughts this morning as we await the president's arrival on Air Force One?

00:11:12.960 Well, Steve, this is nothing short of historic.

00:11:16.180 The scenes we're seeing are absolutely biblical, and there are posters now going up in Jerusalem

00:11:23.780 that I'm seeing just go viral on social media saying that Cyrus the Great has returned,

00:11:29.700 and they are referring to President Trump as Cyrus the Great.

00:11:34.580 I see the crowds cheering there.

00:11:36.980 The Persian leader who came in but also was able to provide peace to this area after they viewed him as a liberator,

00:11:46.260 of liberating them from the Babylonians. 0.99

00:11:48.160 And seeing this new covenant, seeing this new deal that is being put in place, I mean, it's nothing short of biblical.

00:11:55.940 It's nothing short of biblical, and I don't know how anyone who's a believer can be watching these scenes,

00:12:02.580 can be seeing this all happening and not going back and brushing up on our Old Testament.

00:12:08.980 To say that it's Nobel Prize-worthy almost doesn't even do it justice to the magnanimity of what we're seeing before.

00:12:15.880 Yeah, it diminishes.

00:12:17.640 Yes.

00:12:18.580 Joe, I want to go back to you, and I'll get mad in here.

00:12:22.020 What I say is this overwhelming emotional response.

00:12:27.060 If you follow this region, we have kind of seen this before, maybe not this intensity over the 20 hostages,

00:12:32.920 but there have been other times where Israel, working with the Arab nations, working with the Muslim,

00:12:40.860 all parties, including the United States, which has tried to be an intermediary for decades and decades and decades,

00:12:48.940 think you have the framework for peace or think you have a peace deal.

00:12:53.120 There's been big emotional reactions in Israel in the past, and it just never pans out, does it?

00:12:59.120 Look, there still exists a vast misunderstanding of two cultures, Islamic culture, Islamic values,

00:13:10.280 versus Western culture and Western values.

00:13:13.320 Israelis and supporters of the United States believe in these peace agreements and peace deals.

00:13:17.840 I'll give you this piece of land, and peace is going to break out.

00:13:20.220 We'll live happily ever after.

00:13:21.380 They fail to understand that Islamic goals and values cannot accept Jewish sovereignty over Palestine, 0.77

00:13:29.400 cannot accept a Jewish state of any size. 0.99

00:13:32.360 And the Arabs have been fighting militarily to defeat Israel and were unable to defeat it. 0.54

00:13:38.040 And that's why I go into, in one of my films, about how Anwar Sadat decided to wage a diplomatic strategy against Israel

00:13:45.580 by offering Israel an embassy, essentially an office in a high-rise building in Cairo, in exchange for the Sinai.

00:13:53.120 And he's tried to sell this model to the rest of the Arab world, the Egyptians, saying,

00:13:57.280 look, let's just all get together.

00:13:59.380 We'll offer peace.

00:14:00.800 You can have peace with us and withdraw from all these lands.

00:14:05.100 And that would turn Israel into an indefensible country. 0.96

00:14:08.560 And people probably wouldn't want to live there because it couldn't be defended. 0.92

00:14:11.560 So it's a different model for the same goal, which is to defeat and eliminate the Jewish state. 0.96

00:14:18.660 And I think those are the forces that are going to quickly align in Sharm al-Sheikh to demand that Israel create a Palestinian state.

00:14:27.820 And this is the calm before the storm politically because their goal is to politically defeat Israel as a result of this agreement. 0.90

00:14:34.960 I agree with you 100%.

00:14:38.560 I think that there's no doubt that a proto-two-state solution will be basically agreed to this afternoon.

00:14:45.700 Anyway, Joel Gilbert, Matt Faraci in Jerusalem, the great Jack Posobiec working the overnight shift,

00:14:52.480 Ben Harnwell in Rome, and Kurt Mills all joining us here in the war room.

00:14:56.840 Short break.

00:14:57.460 Back in a moment.

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00:15:35.700 Hello.

00:15:36.360 Hello, sir.

00:15:37.140 Go ahead.

00:15:38.540 So, President Trump, what's harder, peace in the Middle East or ending a government shutdown?

00:15:44.820 Well, I think the hardest is this.

00:15:46.540 This has been going on for 3,000 years.

00:15:48.520 The shutdown's only been for 10 days.

00:15:51.460 So, I think the shutdown, it's gotten to be almost customary.

00:15:56.460 But we're taking care of it.

00:15:58.520 We've got the military paid in full.

00:16:00.520 And we're doing a lot of things.

00:16:03.340 We're ending some programs that we don't want.

00:16:05.240 They happen to be Democrat-sponsored programs.

00:16:08.040 But we're ending some programs that we never wanted.

00:16:12.080 And we're probably not going to allow them to come back.

00:16:14.660 I think they made a mistake.

00:16:15.900 I think they made a big mistake.

00:16:17.040 This is really a Schumer shutdown because he's become sort of irrelevant and he wants to make himself relevant again.

00:16:25.380 And in terms of the politics of this historic peace deal that we're on the way to go sign right now, you would think it's good for everybody.

00:16:33.020 But at a rally this weekend, they were cheering for you and they were booing Netanyahu.

00:16:38.680 What's up with that?

00:16:39.840 I don't know.

00:16:40.640 But we're going to make everybody happy.

00:16:42.880 The one thing I can tell you is everybody is happy, whether it's Jewish or Muslim or the Arab countries.

00:16:51.020 Every country is dancing in the streets.

00:16:53.040 And it's a point in time I don't think you'd ever see it again.

00:16:56.420 They've never seen it for 3,000 years.

00:16:58.980 If you like one group, you don't like the other group.

00:17:01.680 And if you like the other group, you don't like the first group.

00:17:04.460 And this is the first time they've ever seen where everybody is unified.

00:17:07.640 Because, as you know, we're going to Egypt after Israel. 0.94

00:17:10.920 And we're going to meet all of the leaders of the very powerful and big countries and very rich countries and others.

00:17:20.060 And they're all into this deal.

00:17:22.420 Everybody's into it.

00:17:23.520 It's never happened before.

00:17:24.920 So I would say this is a lot tougher.

00:17:28.000 But we'll see how it all works.

00:17:29.560 Mr. President, Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, has not gone so far as to say the war is over.

00:17:34.660 In your view, is the war between Israel and us over?

00:17:36.940 The war is over.

00:17:38.400 The war is over.

00:17:39.340 Okay.

00:17:39.960 Do you understand that?

00:17:41.420 Mr. President, is the ceasefire going to hold?

00:17:44.000 Are you confident the ceasefire will hold?

00:17:46.080 Say it.

00:17:46.660 Are you confident that the ceasefire is going to hold?

00:17:49.280 I think so.

00:17:49.860 I think it's going to hold.

00:17:51.480 I think people are...

00:17:53.340 A lot of reasons why it's going to hold.

00:17:56.720 But I think people are tired of it.

00:17:59.000 It's been...

00:17:59.660 It's been centuries.

00:18:01.740 Okay?

00:18:01.980 Not just recent.

00:18:03.460 It's been centuries.

00:18:04.340 I think people are tired of it.

00:18:05.480 Yeah.

00:18:05.920 The ceasefire is going to hold and we'll...

00:18:07.800 What will Gaza look like a year from now?

00:18:11.080 The international stabilization force that's part of the...

00:18:14.620 It's going to be a good, strong force.

00:18:16.240 When will that go?

00:18:16.940 I don't think it's going to have a big impact because I don't think...

00:18:19.580 I think barely we're going to have to use it.

00:18:21.900 I think people are going to behave.

00:18:23.960 Everybody knows their place.

00:18:25.520 It's going to be great for everybody.

00:18:27.880 It's going to be great for the surrounding countries.

00:18:31.100 Arab, Muslim, all of them.

00:18:32.580 It's going to be great for Israel.

00:18:33.780 Everybody is happy.

00:18:35.640 And I think it's going to stay that way.

00:18:37.100 Peter?

00:18:37.280 And if this ceasefire does hold, how long until we get to the part of the 20-point peace plan where developers can go in and make Gaza the Riviera of the Middle East?

00:18:49.500 Well, I don't know about the Riviera for a while because you take a look at what you have.

00:18:54.160 You have to get people taken care of first.

00:18:56.000 But it's going to start really essentially immediately.

00:18:59.020 I mean, they're going to have to start by removing a lot of the structures that you see that are down to the ground.

00:19:05.380 I mean, it's a very...

00:19:06.780 It's blasted.

00:19:07.760 This is like a demolition site.

00:19:09.440 Almost the entire site is...

00:19:11.280 So you have to get rid of what you have there.

00:19:14.860 You have structures that are very dangerous.

00:19:16.700 They're falling down.

00:19:17.520 If they haven't fallen, they're going to fall down of their own volition.

00:19:21.740 So that process, Peter, is going to start pretty much immediately in that way.

00:19:26.480 It's like a year from now, in your view.

00:19:28.300 A year?

00:19:28.780 That's very quick.

00:19:29.460 But over the years, it'll look very good.

00:19:31.260 It'll be...

00:19:32.540 It's got the first chance it's had in centuries of being peaceful.

00:19:37.160 It's always been a very, very strange area.

00:19:41.940 It's always been loaded up with problems, religious problems, problems like no other place probably in the world.

00:19:49.820 And I think it's going to now...

00:19:51.580 It's going to normalize.

00:19:52.720 All you can say, if it normalizes, that would be fantastic.

00:19:55.780 The Russian structure, sir, that you have set up in that peace plan, how soon will that new governing body be in place?

00:20:02.680 Very quickly.

00:20:03.660 And everybody wants to be a part of it.

00:20:05.800 You're talking about the Board of Peace?

00:20:07.460 Right.

00:20:07.820 Tony Blair, yourself.

00:20:08.900 Tony Blair wants...

00:20:09.300 Yeah.

00:20:09.520 Everybody wants to be a part of it.

00:20:11.660 I've had calls from all of the leaders.

00:20:14.520 The leaders of countries, they all want to be a part of it.

00:20:16.640 I mean, the leaders themselves, they're not going to send somebody.

00:20:19.960 They want to be a part of it.

00:20:20.900 Do you know who's going to be a part of it yet?

00:20:22.360 I do.

00:20:22.620 I do.

00:20:23.460 Can you share?

00:20:24.160 No, not yet.

00:20:24.940 Have you spoken to Tony Blair about it since the...

00:20:30.460 I'm going to take your ear things out. 1.00

00:20:32.100 Have you spoken to Tony Blair about it?

00:20:34.940 I have.

00:20:35.560 You know, at first I want to find out that Tony would be popular with all, because I just don't know that.

00:20:41.500 And I like Tony.

00:20:42.480 I've always liked Tony.

00:20:43.300 But I want to find out that he's an acceptable choice to everybody.

00:20:47.860 What about...

00:20:48.340 What guarantees have you been able to give to both the Israelis and the Arab countries?

00:20:53.360 We have a lot of guarantees.

00:20:54.260 The Israelis are very good.

00:20:55.280 And we have a lot of verbal guarantees, too.

00:20:58.340 And I don't think they're going to want to disappoint me.

00:21:01.040 I have a lot of verbal guarantees.

00:21:02.940 Guarantees that aren't down in writing, but they would give it to me.

00:21:05.500 And I believe they're going to be held very strongly.

00:21:08.420 That's why I think it's going to be a success.

00:21:10.120 I'm sure you've seen reports of Hamas re-arming, instituting themselves as a Palestinian police force, shooting bribles. 0.98

00:21:26.020 We are standing because they do want to stop the problems.

00:21:30.540 And they've been open about it.

00:21:32.020 And we gave them approval for a period of time.

00:21:34.100 You have to understand, they've lost probably 60,000 people.

00:21:41.520 That's a lot of retribution.

00:21:42.900 They've lost 60,000 people.

00:21:45.780 And the ones that are living right now were, in many cases, very young when this all started.

00:21:51.400 And we are having them watch that there's not going to be big crime or some of the problems that you have when you have areas like this that have been literally demolished.

00:22:01.620 You know, you have 2 million people, and probably it'll be less than that.

00:22:04.940 But you have close to 2 million people going back to buildings that have been demolished.

00:22:10.840 And a lot of bad things can happen.

00:22:12.640 So we want it to be safe.

00:22:14.980 I think it's going to be fine.

00:22:17.240 Who knows for sure, Katie?

00:22:19.520 But I think it's going to be fine.

00:22:20.880 Mr. President.

00:22:21.660 Mr. President.

00:22:23.520 Yes.

00:22:24.240 Hi.

00:22:25.380 What is the latest that you've heard about hostages when they will be released?

00:22:29.400 Do you expect to meet with any of them?

00:22:30.540 Well, I knew the hostages might be even a little early, but I don't want to say that.

00:22:34.500 So they have the hostages.

00:22:36.960 I understand all 20.

00:22:39.180 And we may get them out a little bit early.

00:22:43.120 Getting them was amazing, actually, because we were involved.

00:22:48.260 And they were in places that you don't want to know about.

00:22:52.460 Deep, deep, deep.

00:22:54.200 Do you know who's going to be?

00:22:54.780 Some of the top Biden administration folks who were there, like Antony Blinken, seem to want some credit for the peace deal.

00:23:02.760 Blinken says it's good that President Trump adopted and built on the plan that the Biden administration developed.

00:23:10.560 What do you think about that?

00:23:11.580 Everybody knows that's a job.

00:23:13.300 Look, they didn't do it.

00:23:14.700 They did such a bad job.

00:23:15.960 This should have never happened.

00:23:17.540 This wouldn't have even happened.

00:23:18.800 That was weak leadership.

00:23:20.300 Terrible.

00:23:20.860 And the same thing with Russia.

00:23:22.540 Russia, Ukraine.

00:23:23.320 If just a decent president, not a great president like me, not a great president.

00:23:31.880 If a decent president was in, you wouldn't have had the Russia, Ukraine. 0.91

00:23:35.760 And this is, I would say, even more so.

00:23:37.940 This was bad policy by Biden and by Obama.

00:23:42.740 Remember when B.B. came and he begged that you not do what they were doing with Iran? 0.93

00:23:47.360 You remember that, right?

00:23:48.440 Begged them.

00:23:49.360 And they wouldn't even listen to him.

00:23:51.120 Everything they did was the opposite of what you should have done.

00:23:54.680 And it's nice that they try and take a little credit.

00:23:57.160 That was years ago, and the mistakes were made years ago.

00:24:00.820 And it was both by Biden and Obama.

00:24:03.440 And so what did you do so differently?

00:24:07.400 Because I know a lot of it was behind the scenes.

00:24:09.780 So what did you do so much differently than Joe Biden to end the war?

00:24:15.460 I resonated with the Arab leaders, the Muslim leaders, and the Jewish leaders.

00:24:20.980 For whatever reason, you tell me why.

00:24:23.640 He said that in my first news conference, I answered more questions of him than Biden did for years.

00:24:30.580 And I think that's pretty close to being true.

00:24:33.060 There were no Pinocchios in the fact check.

00:24:35.840 That's right.

00:24:36.760 That's right.

00:24:37.320 President, your relationship with Prime Minister Netanyahu has been through some ups and downs.

00:24:41.880 You had to get a little tough on him.

00:24:43.820 Where is that relationship now, and can you tell us about it?

00:24:45.940 It's very good.

00:24:47.200 He just put me up for the Nobel Prize.

00:24:50.260 So, you know, I don't know what it means with the Nobel Prize.

00:24:52.840 But he put me up yesterday for the Nobel Prize that I should get it.

00:24:57.900 But, I mean, I think it's very good.

00:25:01.740 Is he doing commitments to you personally about moving forward to the next phase of peace?

00:25:06.420 Look, let me tell you.

00:25:08.040 He's a wartime president.

00:25:09.640 He did a very good job.

00:25:11.520 I had some disputes with him, and they were quickly settled.

00:25:15.720 I can tell you that.

00:25:16.660 But as far as I'm concerned, I think he's done a great job.

00:25:21.500 I think he was the right person at this time.

00:25:24.060 You know, look, it's been this way for centuries.

00:25:27.920 You know, we're not talking about for 10 years, for five.

00:25:30.540 It's been this way for centuries.

00:25:32.540 And he did a great job.

00:25:33.800 And working with me, he was fantastic.

00:25:35.220 Now, working with Biden, no good.

00:25:39.320 They didn't get along.

00:25:40.460 Hang over a second.

00:25:41.340 We're going to come back to this.

00:25:42.900 This is a gaggle that took place on Air Force One.

00:25:45.860 We're waiting.

00:25:46.760 The Air Force One should be landing here momentarily.

00:25:49.220 So we're going to take a quick break before all that happens.

00:25:52.320 I've got Jack Posobiec, Joel Gilbert, Matt Ferracci is in Jerusalem.

00:25:57.820 Ben Harnwell is going to join us.

00:25:59.560 Kurt Mills is going to join us.

00:26:00.880 We're going to have a breakdown of all of this.

00:26:02.820 But you heard there from the President of the United States.

00:26:05.580 And that's kind of, that's Dasha Burns, Peter Doocy from Fox.

00:26:10.680 They got the first team traveling with the President today because this is

00:26:14.900 obviously a historic event.

00:26:16.780 And the President brought this together.

00:26:20.280 He put the, he united the Arabs more than T.E. Lawrence.

00:26:25.480 And quite frankly, he told B.B., hey, here's what we're going to do.

00:26:29.040 This is what we're going to do when we're going to do it.

00:26:32.820 That's reality.

00:26:34.480 Short break.

00:26:36.080 Our historic coverage overnight of President Trump's mission to Jerusalem,

00:26:42.280 mission to Israel.

00:26:44.020 The hostages are being freed.

00:26:46.560 Hamas is laying down their arms.

00:26:49.540 The IDF is moving back.

00:26:52.380 The President is going to address the Knesset and the Israeli people this morning in Israel.

00:26:57.700 The war room.

00:27:00.540 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:27:02.540 Mann.

00:27:06.360 Welcome back to our coverage.

00:27:07.860 We're awaiting the arrival of Air Force One to Israel.

00:27:12.620 We've got a gaggle.

00:27:14.140 Amazing.

00:27:14.920 President Trump, just incredible.

00:27:16.940 The answer to the questions and how he's thought this thing through.

00:27:19.860 Matt Farachi in Jerusalem.

00:27:22.700 There's been a number of celebrations of the hostages coming out, whether you're in Hostage

00:27:29.060 Square or down at the Air Force Base at Rhyme, but also down at the location of where basically

00:27:35.000 the music festival, what I call kind of the Burning Man that was going on that day where

00:27:39.240 the slaughter, particularly some of the youngest civilians took place.

00:27:42.660 What's happening down there today?

00:27:46.220 So, Steve, a lot of people don't realize we're in the middle right now of the Jewish high

00:27:52.140 holidays.

00:27:53.400 And so if you remember, actually, October 7th happened at the very end of the Jewish high 0.92

00:27:58.960 holidays, which we are approaching out again.

00:28:02.040 Obviously, the Hebrew calendar and the Gregorian calendar are different, so it shifts.

00:28:05.780 So this morning at the Nova Music Festival site, which is considered, you know, the site

00:28:12.860 of such heartbreak, they did a very, very holy thing.

00:28:16.080 It's the festival of Sukkot, which for our Christian viewers, Jesus celebrated Sukkot in

00:28:22.960 biblical times, in his time.

00:28:25.280 And it's a time where we remember that life is temporary, but that God is eternal, that

00:28:30.880 God is always with us, that he's never abandoned his people.

00:28:33.560 And we build these temporary dwellings.

00:28:36.040 And as part of it, there's something called a lulav.

00:28:39.100 You can see in the footage, Steve, these people waving this.

00:28:43.800 This is done, one of the reasons is to thank God for the harvest and for providing.

00:28:49.480 And so it's really a beautiful thing, because what they're doing is taking this site of desecration

00:28:54.880 and making it holy and thanking God for his blessings in this sacred time on the Jewish

00:29:00.720 calendar.

00:29:01.120 You know, one of the things we keep showing these shots of of hostage square, which is

00:29:08.200 pretty amazing.

00:29:09.100 And it's been going on now for, I don't know, two, three days.

00:29:12.220 This is not what you would call Trump country, right?

00:29:14.960 That that hostage square in Tel Aviv is not is not.

00:29:18.600 I think we have our MAGA forces up in Jerusalem, but Tel Aviv is a little more progressive.

00:29:24.600 Yeah, this is the this is like San Francisco, maybe not that bad, maybe not that bad, Steve,

00:29:32.320 but it it's New York.

00:29:33.680 It's it's it's it's a blue city.

00:29:36.140 It's, you know, Tel Aviv is by American standards, a blue city.

00:29:39.660 And so, yes, to see people.

00:29:41.600 I saw Wolf Blitzer this morning or having to admit that that people had MAGA hats on.

00:29:47.860 And I think it was causing him some heartburn.

00:29:50.840 President Trump is somebody in Israel that transcends the the traditional political lines

00:29:56.360 because he's a friend and and and done such great things for Israel and the Jewish people.

00:30:03.060 And I think you're seeing that universal outpouring of support continuing this morning, Steve,

00:30:08.840 building on what you and I were talking about just last night.

00:30:14.100 Matt, hang on for a second.

00:30:15.700 Jack Posobiec, you heard the president right there on the in the gaggle.

00:30:19.960 And for the audience, you know, Posobiec's been on that.

00:30:21.780 The media sits in back of really the compartments where the staff works for the president.

00:30:29.880 Presidents all the way forward on Air Force One.

00:30:32.300 And you had the media in the back and President Trump, unlike Obama or Biden and really Bush,

00:30:39.380 always goes back and have what is a press gaggle, which is, as you can tell, just an open ended press conference

00:30:45.640 where they're just tossing questions to him right there in kind of the heat of battle.

00:30:49.840 And he'll answer everything.

00:30:50.580 Your thoughts about some of his answers, though, Jack.

00:30:53.600 Well, Steve, you know, as as the folks know, thanks to Real America's Voice and shout out to the support of Robin Parker Sigg for allowing me the opportunity to have traveled aboard Air Force One in the new media seat there and participated in those gaggles.

00:31:12.280 Look, the president is is very clear.

00:31:14.960 He's talking about how these are conflicts that go back centuries and in some cases, thousands of years, depending on how you look at it.

00:31:25.300 And I think he realizes as well the magnanimity of the situation, but also the fact that this.

00:31:34.120 This is a real hornet's nest that he's getting himself involved into and he's reaffirming America's role, not just in the region, but in the entire world. 0.53

00:31:46.840 He wants America to be the broker of the peace deal, but also the economic deals which will be coming on the heels of this.

00:31:54.800 And so, yes, it's a crowded field and you've got the Arab nations there, Persia, not too far behind.

00:32:03.360 And then back behind all of that, you've got, of course, Russia and China.

00:32:08.520 And so for the president to come there in the Middle East to be seen as this, which is an unequivocal win for President Trump.

00:32:14.960 There's no question this is President Trump's victory, that it really plants a flag for the United States being the first among nations, but not doing so in a way that with the neoconservatives, where it's through conquest or neoliberals, where it's through the increasing globalism, but through direct one-on-one diplomacy.

00:32:36.920 This is exactly what President Trump campaigned on, and President Trump is absolutely delivering, and in this case, not just for the United States, but for the world.

00:32:47.220 He is, though, and I thought, I think it was Dasha asked one of the best questions there.

00:32:52.280 I mean, you're in it now.

00:32:55.100 It's not the United States hasn't been in it, and obviously I've been a big proponent that Israel's a protectorate, not an ally. 0.59

00:33:01.620 And now, quite frankly, in the way this deal is set up and the way he's treating Netanyahu, that, hey, here's what it's going to be, is as a protectorate, not an ally.

00:33:11.960 But by taking the role of the chairman of the Board of Peace, I think he's doing something that hasn't been done in American history, except Woodward Wilson was obviously very involved in the treaty and the Versailles Treaty after, the Treaty of Paris after, in Paris to negotiate at the end of World War I.

00:33:34.660 And really, he was one of the architects of the post-war League of Nations, which he then came back and could not sell to the American people.

00:33:43.380 They never put into a vote in the Senate as a treaty.

00:33:46.100 He had a massive stroke, and essentially his wife basically fulfilled his presidency at the end.

00:33:52.700 But President Trump is stepping into a role, and he just said right there, he says, hey, I don't know if Tony Blair is going to be acceptable.

00:33:57.680 Tony Blair's role in the Iraq War is left a sour taste in his mouth with many people in the region, not just the Arabs.

00:34:04.940 And so we don't know if Blair is going to be able to take over as executive director.

00:34:09.240 But President Trump has reaffirmed today that he's going to be the head of the Board of Peace.

00:34:14.140 That means you're overseeing not just the redevelopment of Gaza, but also all the involvement and, quite frankly, thousands of years of hate and bloodshed and carnage that's going around Gaza.

00:34:28.260 Jack?

00:34:28.700 Well, Steve, that's right.

00:34:32.420 And, of course, President Trump putting his name on it is absolutely going to lead to a guarantee, but then also perhaps a check that will begin to see who is going to be wanting to cash that there in the region.

00:34:47.240 Politically speaking, in Israel, there's obviously serious questions about whether or not Yetanyahu's coalition will be able to continue.

00:34:56.580 Because as you can see here, peace is extremely popular in the area, and there's no question.

00:35:01.860 You heard the boos a couple of days ago when Steve Witkoff was talking about the deal, and he mentions Netanyahu, and they immediately start booing.

00:35:10.720 This is something where they view President Trump as the one who came in, worked with the Qataris, worked with regional partners, came in, put the leverage on Hamas, was able to get the deal done by having those direct negotiations, not going through, and having the IDF continue operations, which is what Netanyahu wanted to continue.

00:35:31.080 So there's real questions as to what happens politically speaking there in the Knesset, and it's no coincidence that that's exactly where President Trump is going to be speaking very soon.

00:35:43.180 So, yes, he is absolutely involving himself directly in this process, the same way, by the way, that he did in Ukraine-Russia.

00:35:49.480 Kurt Mills.

00:35:56.080 The president was—President Trump's a master of messaging and a master of narrative warfare and of also branding.

00:36:05.440 He referred to Netanyahu as a wartime president.

00:36:09.020 Shortly thereafter, he said, they said, well, Netanyahu said last night in Hebrew in this video that the war continues on, although the Gaza part's down.

00:36:18.600 There's one of the posters about President Trump.

00:36:20.660 You're seeing these all over now, and particularly in areas of Israel that President Trump hasn't been particularly popular.

00:36:27.320 So, Kurt, he basically said, hey, he's a wartime president, leaving open Netanyahu's futures in this entire thing.

00:36:37.780 He also was adamant when told that Netanyahu had had this video address to the people in Israel about the war goes on, although the Gaza part of it is done.

00:36:49.860 And this is part of the greater Israel project that has gotten so many people here in the United States, quite frankly, outraged about dragging us into it.

00:36:58.780 And he said the war is over.

00:37:01.220 What do you think the president is messaging right now to Netanyahu and to that kind of center-right and right-wing party in Israel?

00:37:10.420 Yeah, I think he's absolutely messaging that he wants this to be finito, that he wants this to be the last word on the subject, potentially for his presidency.

00:37:22.300 He doesn't want Benjamin Netanyahu coming back to Washington every other month, as it literally seems that he has to Washington.

00:37:31.940 He doesn't want to be making a third trip to the region.

00:37:36.540 This is, of course, the second trip after May, this October, this year to solve these problems.

00:37:43.240 Trump thinks that this should be a justifiable and durable piece.

00:37:53.660 You see a lot of you see the president's empathetic streak kind of coming through here, which I believe is an underrated part of his personality.

00:38:02.120 You see Trump talking a lot more about history, which is not necessarily something that he does every day.

00:38:08.800 And I think you have a general desire to be rid of the Israel issue for a while, that Netanyahu is on his own for elections in 2026,

00:38:21.120 and that U.S. Republican-American support, Donald Trump's support, is at an end.

00:38:27.640 We'll see how that goes.

00:38:29.720 I don't think the president is ignorant of who he's dealing with.

00:38:33.440 I think there's already signs from Netanyahu that he might try to scutter the second phase of this deal.

00:38:41.720 And I think there's a back to try to avoid that.

00:38:44.120 Kurt, hang on for one second.

00:38:47.800 Air Force One has landed, just landed in Israel.

00:38:53.320 And you see a guard of honor coming out to meet it.

00:38:56.360 There's supposed to be a very short, see the red carpet, it's going to be a very short runway.

00:39:01.820 Do we have audio?

00:39:02.740 Let's try to pick it.

00:39:03.300 Let's pick up the music.

00:39:04.360 Let's pick up the music.

00:39:14.120 Let's pick up the music.

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00:44:05.640 an airport in Israel.

00:44:09.580 Going to meet Netanyahu, have a few minutes, I think,

00:44:12.460 have a meeting with them.

00:44:14.040 Supposed to go meet hostages.

00:44:17.960 And then go to the Knesset.

00:44:35.640 And then go to the Knesset.

00:45:05.640 And then go to the Knesset.

00:45:35.640 And then go to the Knesset.

00:46:05.620 Jack, here's the local version of the Beast.

00:46:20.840 Secret Service would have prepositioned that.

00:46:23.520 Here we go.

00:46:25.060 Go to the Knesset.

00:46:27.060 Go to the Knesset.

00:46:29.060 Go to the Knesset.

00:46:31.060 Go to the Knesset.

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00:47:09.060 I'm going to move on, check!

00:47:25.060 I'll move on, I'm going to move on, through the beach, you're out.

00:47:38.060 I'm going to move on, I'm going to move on, I'm going to move, I'll move on to the top.

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00:48:47.060 I think you're right, you would have to call, you would have to say the closest to this is Cyrus the Great, right?

00:49:03.060 I think you're right, you would have to call, you would have to say the closest to this is Cyrus the Great, right?

00:49:15.060 You'd have to go back to Cyrus the Great, you'd have to go back to 0.99

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00:49:23.060 the Persian leader

00:49:25.060 who toppled the

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00:49:29.060 and then returned and restored

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00:49:33.060 to the region

00:49:35.060 allowed the flourishing

00:49:37.060 the rebuilding of the temple

00:49:41.060 and there are in fact

00:49:43.060 posters going up, I've seen images

00:49:45.060 going around

00:49:47.060 referring to Trump as the return of Cyrus the Great.

00:49:51.060 It looks as though the president should be coming out here

00:49:53.060 any second.

00:49:55.060 Yep.

00:49:59.060 Kurt Mills,

00:50:01.060 you've said something a couple times yesterday's show

00:50:03.060 and today about the underplay

00:50:05.060 about President Trump's

00:50:07.060 empathy, how empathetic

00:50:09.060 he is.

00:50:11.060 Give me a minute on that as we wait for the president.

00:50:13.060 Absolutely.

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00:50:17.060 you know, obviously a tough guy.

00:50:19.060 He's seen as

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00:53:11.020 We've got to keep the carpet clear to the car, so everybody can slide that way a little

00:53:23.820 bit, slide this way.

00:53:24.680 Open up the carpet.

00:53:25.320 Thank you.

00:53:26.320 Thank you.

00:53:31.140 Thank you.

00:53:35.320 I do worry that Trump may be in a little over his head on some of these subjects.

00:53:59.060 For example, he keeps saying that this conflict has been going on for 3,000 years,

00:54:03.080 but Islam has only existed for 1,500 years.

00:54:07.060 So that's not exactly correct.

00:54:09.780 I saw that when Trump went to the Gulf, of course, the Qataris, I think, 1.00

00:54:14.700 were trying to influence him by giving him the airplane.

00:54:19.520 After he was in the Gulf visit, Trump started talking about starvation in Gaza,

00:54:24.360 which was really an Arab talking point.

00:54:27.000 It wasn't something that was true.

00:54:28.320 So I just wonder if the Arab countries feel they can sway Trump. 0.91

00:54:34.860 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:54:37.020 That's the Israel perspective.

00:54:39.440 I think there's a lot of people in the world, including many in the United States and independents,

00:54:43.760 that say there was a huge problem.

00:54:46.840 Now, maybe the food didn't get to people because of Hamas, 1.00

00:54:50.420 but there was definitely a starvation problem.

00:54:52.040 You can't say there wasn't.

00:54:53.460 It was definitely a problem.

00:54:55.880 Maybe it was held up.

00:54:57.040 Yeah, I would think, I think there were shortages.

00:54:59.800 I think there were problems, but I don't think it was a starvation on the level of hysteria

00:55:03.760 that they were trying to create.

00:55:05.440 So I just, I think that Trump is being pulled.

00:55:08.660 But Joe, one other thing, hang on, one other thing about the 3,000 years,

00:55:12.880 and maybe that's not the right term, but I think he's saying it's even,

00:55:18.080 a lot of this in the region transcends even religion.

00:55:20.820 It transcends Islam. 0.89

00:55:22.780 It transcends, I mean, this is a cockpit of basically intense fighting for thousands of years, right?

00:55:31.480 And ancient vendettas that people in the West, I mean, you keep mentioning some of this very important.

00:55:36.020 You talk about the clans right now in Gaza.

00:55:38.940 I know in May the people, and I think Matt Farachi would know this,

00:55:43.620 when we talk to people about, on the Israeli side, about Judea Samara,

00:55:49.000 they say, hey, the sheiks, there's 12 sheiks over there that want to throw in with the Israelis 0.89

00:55:53.880 because they can't stand the Palestinian Authority.

00:55:56.600 I don't think people in the United States understand whether it's clans or sheiks or different tribes.

00:56:01.980 In the Middle East, they don't really think of nation states, as you told us last night.

00:56:09.200 Tell me about that, about the clans and the sheiks and who really runs things over there.

00:56:14.440 Well, the concept of nation states is a Christian solution to Christian problems, 0.97

00:56:19.600 and the idea of nationalism, you're French, you're English, you're American,

00:56:24.320 they don't have those ideas in the Muslim world.

00:56:27.200 Loyalty can only be to God, to Allah.

00:56:29.140 So they're not really loyal to Jordan or Egypt or the Saudi kings.

00:56:34.600 So political loyalty is something that only exists in the Muslim world to religion and not to a nation state. 0.70

00:56:43.180 And that's a fundamental concept that Western countries don't understand

00:56:47.620 when they try to negotiate these different treaties.

00:56:50.640 I think what's going to be very interesting is to see if Bibi's relationship and influence with Trump will continue.

00:56:58.820 He's known him for many years.

00:57:00.480 Trump was at his wedding to Melania.

00:57:03.080 I mean, Bibi was at Trump's wedding.

00:57:05.180 So they've known each other for so many years.

00:57:07.160 And then you have this kind of business group of the Gulf Arabs that are offering trillions of dollars of investment

00:57:12.480 that are also influencing Trump.

00:57:15.080 So I'm seeing that there's kind of an influence struggle as to who will be able to sway Trump in their favor that's taking place right now.

00:57:25.320 And I'm sure Bibi is trying hard to make sure that Trump understands his position and why Hamas has to be disarmed.

00:57:33.180 But it sounds to me very clearly that Trump does not want the war to continue.

00:57:36.820 And Hamas may take advantage of that.

00:57:41.560 Yeah, to him, the war's over.

00:57:42.980 Right now we have the motorcade.

00:57:46.280 And I believe President Trump is supposed to meet with some of the hostias.

00:57:49.480 Now, if they're in shape or not.

00:57:51.160 Also, it's pretty amazing in Hostia Square in Tel Aviv.

00:57:54.920 These folks who are not really Trump supporters are looking at him like he is Cyrus the Great on the big screen.

00:58:00.440 Matt Faraci, President Trump has now landed in Tel Aviv at Ben-Gurion Airport.

00:58:09.420 What does this mean for Israel right now?

00:58:15.420 Steve, one thing I'd like to clarify for your viewers just a little bit so they can get a little bit of a political lexicon about the politics of Israel.

00:58:24.820 So if I could use the analogy, Bibi Netanyahu is sort of a George W. Bush in terms of where he is on the political left, right, and center in the country.

00:58:36.400 He's a political moderate.

00:58:39.020 There are people that I would call miga, make Israel great again.

00:58:43.760 Much further on the right, people like Simcha Rothman, Smotridge, Ben-Gavir.

00:58:48.180 Here, these guys represent more of the MAGA equivalent in the Israeli political scene.

00:58:58.120 And then, Steve, to your point, you have the left, almost the Bernie Sanders crowd in Tel Aviv.

00:59:05.060 So I think that's informative for people that don't follow closely Israeli politics.

00:59:10.540 And what does that mean?

00:59:11.920 So Posobiec was talking about the prime minister's coalition earlier, and that's part of the issue is that more conservative members of the coalition had some real issues with the peace deal for national security reasons.

00:59:26.180 So just to explain to your viewers how that's shaking out.

00:59:30.200 And then also, if I may, Steve, to explain the prime minister's comments last night, I think it depends on your definition of war.

00:59:37.180 If we're talking about ending the war with Gaza, I think the president is saying that's over.

00:59:43.240 But you've still got, as far as Israel's concerned, you've got the Houthis.

00:59:46.460 You've got some dangerous elements in Syria. 1.00

00:59:48.940 It looks like Lebanon could go into civil war if they can't get Hezbollah disarmed. 1.00

00:59:54.140 So there's a lot of other fronts happening at the same time.

00:59:57.720 And I think that's what the prime minister was referring to last night.

01:00:01.880 Yeah, but I think the president's referring to that, too.

01:00:04.700 The president's going this afternoon to meet with the Arabs in the Muslim world, and he's calling it a Middle East peace.

01:00:11.520 He's not calling this a Gaza peace.

01:00:13.480 I agree with you.

01:00:14.360 There's a fundamental disconnect here.

01:00:17.200 I also agree with you that guys on the right, they hate this deal.

01:00:21.880 They understand what we've been saying.

01:00:23.540 I mean, Mark Levin's going to be banging his head on the wall right now, Tel Aviv Levin.

01:00:26.680 I mean, this is a two-state solution.

01:00:28.820 Call it what you want.

01:00:29.700 But you've got Qatar and the Saudis stroking big checks, huge checks for development. 0.94

01:00:37.260 You've got trying to make Gaza like Tel Aviv, like Miami Beach. 0.97

01:00:41.560 You've got a Turkish security force.

01:00:45.600 And what I've said on this show for years is that the threat to Israel I didn't think came from Tehran at all.

01:00:52.740 I thought that was vastly trumped up.

01:00:55.440 I said, it's Turkey and Qatar you've got to worry about, the money for the Muslim Brotherhood, and Erdogan's the muscle.

01:01:01.960 And he's very focused on the reestablishment of the Ottoman Empire.

01:01:07.000 The last time we had these type of seismic shifts in the Middle East was when the British, with Lawrence of Arabia, took Damascus and freed Jerusalem on the way up from, guess what, the Ottoman Empire.

01:01:20.800 Anyway, we've got time to get all in this.

01:01:23.060 We're going to take a break while we've got the Israeli IDF band.

01:01:29.140 Very nice and appropriate, and I thought pretty low-key reception for the president, which I thought was great.

01:01:37.860 He's with Netanyahu now.

01:01:39.800 I think he's going to get a chance to meet some of the hostages, which he freed.

01:01:44.720 Then he's going to address the Knesset.

01:01:46.420 Short commercial break.

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01:02:29.180 Thank you.

01:02:30.660 Very impressive right there in the square.

01:02:33.680 And like I said, they've got signs for Trump.

01:02:39.100 The hostages are being released.

01:02:40.440 The president's there with Netanyahu.

01:02:42.360 He's going to meet hostages.

01:02:43.600 He's going to address the Knesset.

01:02:45.540 And then he's got a whole second part to the day, believe it or not.

01:02:48.120 He then goes to Egypt for the peace conference or the redevelopment conference or the Middle East conference, whatever they're calling it.

01:02:56.600 Ben Harnwell, cursed armors.

01:02:59.500 Sir Keir's showing up today.

01:03:01.280 Macron, your favorite.

01:03:02.320 His government's collapsing in France, but he's going to take time to go down to the Red Sea resort in Egypt to be part of it.

01:03:12.600 You know, they've always had a big hand in the Levant.

01:03:15.540 In fact, it was the French and the British that carved up the Middle East. 0.98

01:03:20.120 As Joel Gilbert said, put these artificial nation, created these artificial nation states that have kind of been part of the problem ever since.

01:03:29.020 Your thoughts through your beady eyes there in Rome.

01:03:35.720 Look, look, look, look, Steve.

01:03:38.000 My beady eyes are glittering serpent-like as I'm watching the feed now.

01:03:42.620 Before I go into the beady-eyed cynicism, I have to pay tribute to what Donald Trump has achieved with this.

01:03:51.960 This is something that he has forced through with the power of his will alone, effectively.

01:03:58.000 The power of his charisma.

01:03:59.600 The power of his will.

01:04:01.460 And the crowds that we're seeing now on the feed is a result directly of that.

01:04:06.080 That is, Steve, that is what you call personal authority.

01:04:09.160 He made this happen because he wanted this to happen.

01:04:12.460 He wanted to see these images now.

01:04:15.180 And that is what he focused on.

01:04:16.800 And that is what he has worked towards.

01:04:18.720 And I have to give him absolute credit to that, right?

01:04:21.860 And just highlights the difference between when you have a real president and when you have an auto-pen president.

01:04:28.580 This is President Trump's day, right?

01:04:32.080 I give him full, absolute, total tribute to that.

01:04:35.560 He deserves it.

01:04:36.560 He deserves to be applauded for this.

01:04:39.660 That said, there are things I'll want to dig into over the next three hours on this show to do with the costs that it has taken to get here.

01:04:50.520 Political costs.

01:04:52.520 And also costs to do, moving forward, to maintain, in inverted commas, the peace.

01:04:58.600 Steve, you flagged up on getter.

01:05:00.740 It's an extremely important earlier on today.

01:05:04.460 And that is, the fact is, there seems to be a difference of opinion, even today when the crowds are gathering, as to what exactly is being celebrated here.

01:05:13.440 It's clearly the release of the hostages.

01:05:15.320 But also the fact, is this the end of the war?

01:05:18.520 President Trump says definitively that it's over.

01:05:21.540 Bibi himself is saying equally definitively that it's not.

01:05:24.660 This is important for the United States because it would appear that President Trump, or let me say America, is now underwriting both sides of this war.

01:05:36.580 Both the Israeli side and, of course, now the Gaza side with these security guarantees. 0.51

01:05:42.380 This is a touch paper that could easily explode moving forward.

01:05:46.500 And there are obviously interests, you know, the Haradim, the Orthodox Jews there.

01:05:51.240 I think the government could easily fall at some point.

01:05:54.320 Important to remember, Steve, that only the first phase of the Trump plan has actually been agreed to in the Knesset.

01:06:01.720 The substantial long-term peace will hinge around the more substantial non-hostage issues.

01:06:10.440 And that, I think, is where the difficulties Israel is going to face moving forward.

01:06:14.400 Look, you mentioned in your question, of course, the Europeans, our beloved Europeans.

01:06:18.920 Apart from Phony Maloney, who's also in Egypt now, the three primary countries you've mentioned, Britain, Germany, France,

01:06:28.260 all of them, as you were indicating, all of them are suffering massive domestic turmoil right now.

01:06:34.880 And I can't help but think that their eagerness to fly over to Cairo to be part of the peace negotiations

01:06:43.820 is an attempt to distract from the failures of their own domestic agenda.

01:06:49.860 And that is something, and I'll hand back to you on this point, Steve,

01:06:53.640 this is something that I hope the hierarchy, the political MAGA hierarchy in the United States is attentive to.

01:07:02.680 So I'll close with this point, right?

01:07:05.840 I'll close with this point.

01:07:06.720 20 hostages being released is an incredible thing, but 200 Americans are dying every day of fentanyl.

01:07:14.680 And the political camera needs to be focused directly on that and on other domestic issues, I think, Steve.

01:07:24.180 Ben, stick right there, Ben Harnwell, our international editor in Rome.

01:07:33.740 Joe Gilbert, Ben's kind of right.

01:07:37.080 I mean, there is an agreement to release these hostages.

01:07:40.800 There's some sort of agreement about Hamas laying down his arms and Hamas maybe going back

01:07:45.540 and being some interim security force for some short period of time while the IDF pulls back.

01:07:53.400 And, of course, you've got the celebration there with the hostages.

01:07:56.080 But there's a lot of this that's not really particularly defined.

01:08:00.080 Now, it's this afternoon at the Red Sea Resort in Egypt.

01:08:05.500 I think there may be a couple of documents that are going to be signed or at least agreed to.

01:08:10.240 But this thing is still pretty soft around the edges, is it not?

01:08:15.700 I agree.

01:08:16.620 It started out as Sunday night.

01:08:20.780 Hamas had to take it or leave it. 0.68

01:08:22.500 That was like a week ago.

01:08:24.220 And then it turned into a hostage exchange deal with the other points to be negotiated and worked out later.

01:08:31.100 The Egyptians, Turks, and Gulf Arabs jumped all over and said, 0.97

01:08:34.260 OK, let's have our own little peace agreement and summit, and we're going to fund and create a Palestinian state in Gaza.

01:08:43.620 I think they're putting together a political united movement to demand a Palestinian state not only in Gaza but in the West Bank and Jerusalem

01:08:52.920 to help influence the Israeli election next year that will say, hey, we're going to give you peace.

01:08:58.780 We'll stop trying to kill you.

01:09:00.080 Just give us all this land, and we'll have peace in the Middle East.

01:09:03.320 And they'll try to see if the Israeli public will go for it, in which case Israel will be entering another peace agreement.

01:09:12.060 And I think they'd be setting themselves up for more disappointment, just like the peace treaty with Egypt,

01:09:17.920 because Egypt saw the agreement with Israel completely differently than Israel saw it.

01:09:22.840 Israel got to Sinai and remained a hostile force.

01:09:25.420 Egypt allowed the arming of Hamas.

01:09:28.780 Imagine having a peace treaty with Egypt, and they allowed Hamas to be armed and wage war on Israel. 0.82

01:09:34.380 So I think some of the peace movement in Israel has been shattered and gotten the reality that the Islamic world does not accept Israel in any size or circumstance.

01:09:44.720 But it remains to be seen, because I think in Sharm el-Sheikh there is a new coalition coming together that will be proposing a peace deal for a new Israeli government.

01:09:55.260 Oh, no, I agree that you've got Qatar, the Saudis, probably UAE, prepared to put in, I think, tens of billions of dollars, maybe even hundreds of billions of dollars.

01:10:08.700 The Turks are sitting there saying, we'll take the security. 0.97

01:10:11.440 We'll organize the Arabs and the Muslim nations on security.

01:10:15.660 And Gaza, Kurt Mills, I mean, I think that's the deal, that however you want to cut it, Gaza becomes at least the beginning of a proto-Palestinian state, but two-state solution, right?

01:10:28.680 I mean, it's obvious, to me, it's pretty obvious what's going to happen, sir.

01:10:34.280 Yeah, I mean, look, the president is the driver on this, and the term in war is often that the enemy gets a vote, but the term in peace here should be that America gets a vote.

01:10:44.740 And so I have to respectfully disagree with one of my co-panelists.

01:10:48.940 I think that the president clearly sees this as an end to the greater Middle East war.

01:10:54.800 I don't think he wants to use all his political capital to fly over to Israel and fly over to Egypt today to sign a Gaza-only deal only for new hostilities to break out of Yemen.

01:11:07.420 Yeah.

01:11:08.680 Yeah.

01:11:09.340 So, I mean, I think-

01:11:10.280 Hang on a second.

01:11:10.520 I'm going to get back.

01:11:12.020 No, I agree with you.

01:11:13.200 I think- Jack Posobiec, jump in here.

01:11:15.240 I think that when Netanyahu addressed the nation last night in that video and said the larger war is over, and Trump infatically goes, the war is over, and I think he's meaning that, hey, America is not going to be there.

01:11:28.120 Like I said, anything Israel wants to do on its own, go with it. 0.98

01:11:31.860 I'm a nationalist.

01:11:33.740 People in Israel should be Israel first. 1.00

01:11:36.420 I've got no problem with that at all.

01:11:38.520 They should do it.

01:11:39.160 It's just that we can't, you know, be Israel first here in the United States.

01:11:43.480 We've got to put the United States first.

01:11:45.600 I think Kurt's right.

01:11:46.820 I think that the president looks at this as, in this afternoon, as he calls it a Middle East peace.

01:11:52.020 He doesn't just call it a Gaza peace.

01:11:53.820 Jack Posobiec.

01:11:54.500 Yeah, I think I could agree with that, just in terms of the sense that if Israel were to do something after this, that the president would not be there.

01:12:05.160 I mean, look, you've got just north of Israel, of course, all of the real questions about what's going on in Syria with this new leader there, the Ottomans pushing down from the north across Aleppo, Idlib, these real questions about southern Syria.

01:12:22.480 Who's really going to be the, you know, who's really going to be the guarantors there, these local militias, or are you going to have Damascus be able to exert any kind of control?

01:12:34.480 And, of course, China.

01:12:35.460 Look, China is trying to look in that China wants Syria to be a Chinese highway for them to be able to push their new Silk Road for their products,

01:12:46.140 both into and across the Mediterranean and then for oil flows back into the People's Republic.

01:12:54.020 So there's a lot of questions about what goes on in Syria.

01:12:56.900 I wouldn't – I mean, look, it's the Middle East.

01:12:58.620 I think we wouldn't be surprised if we do see some forms of regional conflict pop off.

01:13:03.480 But at the same time, I do agree with Kurt that President Trump clearly is putting the squeeze on everyone to say, put the guns down.

01:13:12.240 Absolutely.

01:13:16.240 Okay, we're going to take another commercial break while we can.

01:13:19.120 President Trump is in the beast with Netanyahu.

01:13:22.640 The order of battle here is supposed to be, I think, the president is trying to meet with some of the hostage families and the hostages

01:13:28.540 before addressing the Knesset in a formal address to the nation of Israel.

01:13:34.140 So he then will go and go back to Air Force One, return to Ben-Gurion Airport, go back to Air Force One,

01:13:40.680 and then leave for Egypt to this peace conference that's going to take place this afternoon at the Red Sea Resort.

01:13:48.300 We're going to take a short commercial break here.

01:13:50.540 Gold is almost at $4,100.

01:13:52.580 Does that surprise you?

01:13:54.460 The Chinese Communist Party, not that this is important, but I did say the Mideast is a sideshow. 0.53

01:13:59.400 In the Israel situation, it's a sideshow to a sideshow now more than ever. 1.00

01:14:03.060 I think that's accurate.

01:14:04.980 The Chinese Communist Party, full-scale economic war against the United States of America.

01:14:10.180 We'll get into all this and much more.

01:14:12.640 Historic trip to Israel on a mission of peace.

01:14:16.860 Donald John Trump, the Commander-in-Chief of the United States.

01:14:20.620 Back in a moment.

01:14:22.280 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

01:14:24.700 Joe Gilbert, it's a 45-minute drive.

01:14:34.280 By the way, this shows you how small a country geographically Israel is and really how tiny Gaza is.

01:14:41.260 But from the Ben-Gurion Airport, it's only a 45-minute drive to the Knesset in Jerusalem.

01:14:47.000 The President en route now with the Prime Minister.

01:14:51.200 What do you think that conversation inside the beast is right now, sir?

01:14:54.900 Well, I think hopefully Bibi is giving Trump some perspective with something like this,

01:15:03.260 is that the Arab and Muslim countries have been promoting for years and years that the only problem in the Middle East is the Palestinians don't have their own state.

01:15:11.860 And they do that to avoid addressing the real problems that exist in the region.

01:15:17.380 It's the divide between Shia Islam in Iran and the largest Sunni population.

01:15:22.560 The Sunnis don't really consider the Shia Iranians to be real Muslims.

01:15:26.200 There's a huge divide between rich elites and poor masses. 0.81

01:15:30.420 The Gulf Arabs, the Saudis, the Qataris are hated by the masses of the people who are poor because they hoard the wealth. 1.00

01:15:38.300 There is the Turks trying to reassert themselves. 1.00

01:15:42.400 There are so many problems, persecutions of Christian minorities.

01:15:45.960 There are so many problems in the Middle East.

01:15:47.680 And these countries have sought to avoid addressing them by saying the only problem is the Palestinians.

01:15:53.980 So these issues are huge in the Middle East.

01:15:58.880 And they will exist whether or not the Palestinians put together a state in Gaza and elsewhere.

01:16:04.360 And I think Bibi actually does a good job of trying to give history and perspective whenever he talks at the UN, when he talks to Trump.

01:16:12.620 And, you know, the Qataris have been playing all sides.

01:16:16.940 People don't understand who the Qataris really are.

01:16:19.320 In Qatar, there's 300,000 Qataris and 3 million expatriates.

01:16:23.720 It's a small group of this extended family that controls all the wealth.

01:16:28.240 And they cut deals with everybody.

01:16:29.780 They pay off Hamas. 0.94

01:16:31.120 They pay off American universities.

01:16:34.120 You know, they give the U.S. a base.

01:16:36.120 So there's a lot of different actors involved.

01:16:37.820 One of the reasons we have a problem with Mamdani in New York City, Qatar is all over the New York City public education system. 1.00

01:16:47.140 Qatar, to me, I think, to me, I've always said one of the worst actors in the world. 1.00

01:16:52.260 I think they financed the Muslim Brotherhood. 0.95

01:16:54.200 They used their wealth.

01:16:55.380 And they've had a tremendous, by putting investments and partnering with people, they are incredibly powerful, given that they were almost toppled by the UAE and the Saudis a week after President Trump, after we left in 2017, sir.

01:17:12.160 That's correct.

01:17:12.840 Look, the Saudis do everything because they're so insecure. 1.00

01:17:15.680 Not the Saudis, the Qataris. 0.99

01:17:16.940 The Saudis also.

01:17:17.760 But Qataris are insecure. 1.00

01:17:19.360 They're paranoid.

01:17:20.620 And they think what they've done is they've overplayed their hand over the years by cutting deals with every single side of every conflict, paying everybody off, because they're always in survival mode.

01:17:31.440 So that's who they are.

01:17:33.100 And you can't really trust them because they're always going to cut a deal with somebody else.

01:17:36.860 So the very idea of even the Abraham Accords, the idea that the Israelis get an embassy in these, you know, Arab Gulf states that have these rich elites and poor masses, it doesn't have that much value.

01:17:51.580 And I do believe the Abraham Accords are kind of overvalued.

01:17:55.840 And the Israelis should be calling for free elections in Gulf states, in Egypt, in all these countries that if they want peace with Israel, they should hold free elections.

01:18:04.320 And I think you'd see a whole different story in the Middle East.

01:18:06.860 If the Abraham Accords, let's go there because that is the basic – that's the predicate of this deal, which is more of a business relationship, commercial relationship, talking about capital markets and integration of logistics chains, the transportation, air flights from Tel Aviv to the Gulf Emirates particularly in Turkey.

01:18:32.360 So if that's a shaky foundation, because I think what Jared and their concept, and even Trump, is that the politics here and the politicians are just too embedded in ancient vendettas.

01:18:44.540 And if you want to try to move past it, you've got to look at the cash flow coming from the Gulf Emirates, and they're putting that in crypto, they're putting that in artificial intelligence.

01:18:56.860 They're trying to – they're trying to transform their economies in doing that, play to that, and see if that can't somehow change the Middle East.

01:19:05.420 I mean, this day – we're here today because of that, and because of the Qataris and the Saudis and UAE saying we will underwrite to the tune of tens of billions of dollars a massive redevelopment of Gaza.

01:19:18.140 And President Trump said it's not going to happen overnight because, first off, you've got the things – looks like the Western Front and World War I, but you're going to build essentially a Tel Aviv equivalent with 2 million Palestinians.

01:19:31.020 And that is, to me, the proto-two-state solution that is pretty obvious is happening here, sir.

01:19:38.400 Well, two points.

01:19:40.680 One is that the vast majority of Muslims in the Islamic world hate the Gulf Arabs.

01:19:47.260 They think that they're hoarding wealth and they're suppressing the masses.

01:19:52.240 So these countries, you can try to cut deals with these royal families, but they are hated by the Islamists and by the vast majority of regular Muslim people.

01:20:01.900 Any deal in Gaza is going to quickly – the demand is going to expand.

01:20:08.780 We don't only want Gaza. 0.82

01:20:10.280 We want half of Jerusalem. 0.94

01:20:11.480 We want the West Bank. 0.99

01:20:13.100 And they'll be hectoring and lecturing Israel, if you get rid of Netanyahu, we've got this great peace deal.

01:20:18.460 Peace is going to break out.

01:20:20.300 And the Israelis, hopefully, have learned their lesson that every time they cut a deal with these Arab countries, it never works out like they thought it would. 0.97

01:20:28.260 It turns into kind of a hostile peace, and they make more demands.

01:20:33.840 So I think developments are going to happen very quickly.

01:20:37.900 Trump, I think, is going to try his best.

01:20:40.300 But there is a large group of Muslim countries united with a plan, and I think that the details of that plan go far beyond Gaza.

01:20:49.640 Oh, definitely.

01:20:50.700 There's no doubt.

01:20:51.200 He says it's a Middle East plan.

01:20:52.740 When he's talking about the war ending, I mean, he's adamant.

01:20:54.840 It's the Middle East. 0.88

01:20:55.400 This thing today is, I think, it's called a Middle East conference.

01:21:00.100 It's not called a Gaza conference.

01:21:01.260 Right there, you see the motorcade of the president.

01:21:04.200 They're heading with the prime minister.

01:21:06.060 They're heading to the Knesset.

01:21:08.140 So, Kurt Mills, what would the president actually say in his address?

01:21:12.500 Because as we've kind of detailed here, the president's idea is I'm laying out an architecture for peace in the Middle East.

01:21:19.800 And the first step of this is return of hostages and Hamas laying down their arms and the IDF retreating and all these details of the Gaza part of it.

01:21:27.620 But he's got a much broader agenda to kind of put this to bed, as he says, once and for all in 3,000 years, right?

01:21:36.240 And the people are putting up signs in hostage square in Tel Aviv, which is not Trump-friendly country, calling Trump, as Jack Posovic says, Cyrus the Great.

01:21:49.140 So, what is President Trump in a few minutes when he addresses the Israeli people from the Knesset?

01:21:54.800 What's he going to say?

01:21:56.900 Yeah, I mean, I think he should basically, and I am cautiously optimistic that he will, give a sequel address to the one that he gave in the Gulf states in mid-May.

01:22:08.400 When he explicitly denounced neoconservatism, he explicitly iterated that he was going to do a step change in U.S. foreign policy for a generation.

01:22:22.960 And then, you know, this sort of Middle East theater went sideways in June when Israel attacked Iran.

01:22:28.660 I think in October, there's an opportunity to turn the page on Hawke's summer and make it very clear that Trump is a friend of peace and also that he is a friend of the Israeli people.

01:22:41.960 I think it was very revealing and it got a lot of attention over the weekend that Trump's name in the Israeli streets was cheered and that Prime Minister Netanyahu's name was booed.

01:22:53.540 Prime Minister Netanyahu is a wily operator.

01:22:55.860 He is welcome to run for re-election again next year.

01:22:59.960 But Trump's fate need not be Netanyahu's fate.

01:23:03.940 And I think he can deliver a durable peace agreement here and one that hopefully slightly or further decouples the relationship between the U.S. and Israel.

01:23:14.740 Where else that Trump's entire final term in office, however long he is in the White House, will be dominated by this theater.

01:23:21.760 And he doesn't want that.

01:23:22.780 The American people don't want that and the broader MAGA movement does not want that.

01:23:26.720 You said the neocon.

01:23:29.840 I want to go back to that, what he said.

01:23:32.000 President Trump was particularly critical of American foreign policy in the past of trying to put your own culture onto cultures that foreign like democracy in the Middle East.

01:23:44.520 Right.

01:23:44.800 I mean, he's pretty adamant about that.

01:23:46.260 I know Joel just talked about, hey, we ought to have direct elections and it would overthrow all these corrupt rural families. 1.00

01:23:53.320 You won't have any argument there from me about the corruption of the Gulf Emirates. 1.00

01:23:58.300 But President Trump was pretty adamant, kind of a break with traditional American foreign policy, that this was not he's not in the he's not in the business of rolling out democracy through the Middle East.

01:24:12.160 And even said other things about, you know, people have their own cultures and those cultures have to develop over time with their economics.

01:24:19.700 Yeah, I mean, I think Trump has the reasonable opinion here, not just the Middle East, but in the broader world theater, which is that he works with whoever leads the organization or the country.

01:24:30.040 I think you have seen direct negotiations from Trump's emissaries with even Hamas.

01:24:37.020 It's not that Trump is a fan of Hamas.

01:24:38.940 It's not that Trump is going to invite Hamas to the White House anytime soon, but he'll deal with them. 1.00

01:24:43.560 He represents he knows that they represent a perspective, that they have an armada of Palestinians underneath them and that they need to be brought to the table, too.

01:24:52.300 And you see you see time and again a desire to just work pragmatically with who is there.

01:24:58.360 I would contrast that.

01:25:00.220 And again, you know, he has sort of changed throughout his political career.

01:25:05.720 But Netanyahu was a very close ally of the George W. Bush White House.

01:25:09.740 And what was the George W. Bush White House perspective?

01:25:12.660 Regime change, regime change, regime change.

01:25:14.800 That is not Trump's instinct in the slightest.

01:25:17.300 Yeah.

01:25:18.920 Hang on one second, Jack.

01:25:20.260 I know you got to bounce as we come upon the four o'clock, 4 a.m.

01:25:24.040 Eastern Daylight Time.

01:25:24.960 Your thoughts sort of put this in perspective.

01:25:28.360 Well, Steve, I think what what the panel is saying here is is right, that President Trump has come in and is repudiating both neoconservative and neoliberal camps here in terms of their schools of thought.

01:25:46.100 But he he didn't notice he didn't do this using the infrastructure of the U.N.

01:25:51.780 He didn't use the he didn't use the United States military to get involved in any of the operations in Hamas or in Gaza regarding them or perhaps some intel sharing.

01:26:03.700 But this was direct diplomacy and using economic strength.

01:26:09.160 And this is key because what do we see going on in the area is China is making a huge play for the newly reconstructed Syria to the north. 0.51

01:26:19.480 China is getting back to Aleppo and Palmyra, these classic historic cities that were hubs along the ancient Silk Road.

01:26:28.320 So China is building its new Silk Road across the new Syria. 0.94

01:26:32.360 And so the United States is, of course, wanting to make sure they maintain relationships in the region as they look as those actors, Russia, China now coming in as well.

01:26:43.300 So President Trump making a key point to understand that while the United States is putting its own interests first, it is not retreating from the rest of the world.

01:26:52.300 And so it's shoring up those relationships in the Middle East.

01:26:55.580 And in fact, I would even say strengthening relationships with new partners, because now you've got Qatar that is intrinsically they are dependent on the United States now for their diplomatic efforts and Israel as well, quite frankly.

01:27:10.420 In their air base in Idaho.

01:27:13.640 We'll get to that.

01:27:14.240 Jack, you're going to be in Human Events.

01:27:15.980 I hopefully will tap you for the traditional War Room 10 a.m. show.

01:27:20.780 Where do people go?

01:27:21.800 Your Twitter feed is the Associated Press of the MAGA movement.

01:27:25.720 Where do people go, sir?

01:27:28.100 Well, Steve, we'll be up, you know, posting throughout the night.

01:27:31.940 It is a historic day.

01:27:33.740 It is history being made before our eyes.

01:27:37.800 So go to at Jack Posobiec on Twitter, Truth, Getter and Telegram.

01:27:43.740 And then, of course, the podcast at Human Events.

01:27:45.860 And, Steve, I just got to say, Charlie would love to see this.

01:27:51.280 Oh, yeah.

01:27:52.440 Charlie would have been on.

01:27:54.600 We'd be doing three co-hosts.

01:27:56.800 Charlie Kirk tomorrow afternoon on his 32nd birthday will receive at 4 p.m.

01:28:03.620 in the afternoon at the White House the Presidential Medal of Freedom,

01:28:07.480 the highest civilian award the United States can award.

01:28:11.960 Jack Posobiec, thank you.

01:28:12.980 We'll see you later in the day.

01:28:14.060 Short commercial break.

01:28:15.100 We're going to come back to Jerusalem in a moment.

01:28:18.440 Let's take down the CCP.

01:28:21.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

01:28:26.800 By the way, today is a day, I think, as you stay with us for our coverage,

01:28:34.380 you might want to also go to Birch Gold.

01:28:36.740 Gold is on fire.

01:28:37.860 I don't know.

01:28:39.320 The Chinese Communist Party declared economic war against the United States

01:28:42.620 on rare earths, which the industrial side of rare earths

01:28:47.120 or what they call heavy rare earths drive the industrial production process

01:28:51.280 in the United States, and they've threatened to cut us off.

01:28:54.340 President Trump is not happy about that, and President Trump has said

01:29:00.200 they're going to add 100% tariffs.

01:29:01.580 Now, that may all be up in the air as they try to work things out.

01:29:04.820 But gold has been on fire over the weekend, although the capital market

01:29:08.600 is a little bit calmed down because President Trump put out a nice message

01:29:11.900 last night saying, hey, she had a bad day, and we're going to figure this out.

01:29:14.760 I did put up a getter post right after that said, Mr. President, just remember,

01:29:20.320 they're at economic war with us and have been since 2019, and she is no friend.

01:29:25.520 She doesn't have friends.

01:29:28.200 But once again, it shows you President Trump is trying to be a global peacemaker,

01:29:32.840 whether it's from Ukraine to the South China Sea to now the Middle East,

01:29:38.060 the Gaza Strip, and the broader Middle East.

01:29:41.460 President Trump is, of course, a guy like that you would never award the Nobel Peace Prize to,

01:29:48.120 although the woman who got it, and she's a very brave and courageous politician

01:29:53.200 down in Venezuela, she wouldn't even exist if it was not for the space created for her 1.00

01:29:58.800 by President Trump to even exist and not be in some camp somewhere already dead.

01:30:03.620 And so President Trump trying to, throughout the world, bring peace because his thoughts are

01:30:10.960 you can't have a prosperous America until we are totally prosperous America, until you have peace.

01:30:16.080 Right there you see the, that's the lead car in the motorcade.

01:30:21.020 They're heading towards Jerusalem and to the Knesset.

01:30:24.280 President Trump is about to address the Israeli people, and like we said,

01:30:27.180 there's still a lot of open questions about exactly what this deal is.

01:30:31.880 Before I go to Ben Harno in Rome, during the break, you mentioned something, Joel,

01:30:37.040 that I think is very important for people to understand.

01:30:39.460 The assault on October 7th, as shocking as it was to the world and to the Israeli people,

01:30:46.240 it really hit kind of the progressive left.

01:30:49.420 I mean, they had this, where Matt Faraci told us today,

01:30:52.320 there was kind of a ceremony where the Nova concert was.

01:30:55.500 I consider that that day, to make sure people could understand what's going on,

01:30:59.220 it was kind of like a Burning Man that we have here in the United States, right?

01:31:02.800 A lot of young people, music, obviously drugs, you know, just kind of hanging loose.

01:31:08.960 The kibbutzes are some of the more progressive, and these were all to the south, right? 0.99

01:31:13.860 That they'd had a lot of interaction with Palestinians before,

01:31:17.380 and quite frankly had, as you said, taken people to the hospital.

01:31:20.840 So it was not just a wake-up call, it was a traumatic shock when the Muslim Brotherhood attacked. 0.96

01:31:29.260 Was it not, sir?

01:31:30.820 Yeah, like imagine if you're a Democrat living in San Francisco,

01:31:34.120 and you support illegal immigration,

01:31:36.200 and then a guy from El Salvador comes in your house and murders the rest of your family members. 0.70

01:31:41.880 You would have like a shock about your entire belief system.

01:31:45.900 So this is kind of what happened in Israel.

01:31:48.020 The far-left loonies who lived in these kibbutzim along the Gaza border

01:31:52.560 were just in love with the idea of a Palestinian state.

01:31:55.620 They would bring them to work on their kibbutzim. 0.87

01:31:58.480 They would pick up Palestinian children and take them to get free medical care in Israel and take them back. 0.99

01:32:03.420 So this is a group of people that were actually attacked the most by Hamas.

01:32:09.180 They came over and murdered them and kidnapped them.

01:32:11.820 So the far-left in Israel, their view that peace is going to break out

01:32:17.300 as soon as you just give the Palestinians their own country, 0.97

01:32:20.580 their worldview was shattered on October 7th.

01:32:24.780 And the next early election, I think, is going to reflect that.

01:32:27.760 I don't think these far-left parties that are telling the public,

01:32:31.160 if you just create a Palestinian state, everything is going to be great. 1.00

01:32:34.820 But there will be a coalition, the one getting together in Sharm al-Sheikh later today,

01:32:39.600 going to put together this coalition of Egypt, the Gulf states, Turkey,

01:32:45.200 and they're going to come with this idea that, you know, we'll give billions of dollars to Gaza,

01:32:50.140 just give us East Jerusalem, give us the West Bank, 1.00

01:32:52.580 and turn Israel into an indefensible state, and we'll give you peace. 0.70

01:32:57.080 And that will be the big question in the next Israeli election,

01:32:59.900 if the Israeli electorate will have learned their lesson that giving territory leads to war and not peace.

01:33:06.700 And that's the lesson that the far-left has learned in Israel.

01:33:12.720 I tell you what, while we have time, we're going to take a break at the top of the hour.

01:33:17.100 It will be 4 a.m. Is that correct? Before a.m.

01:33:20.160 In the United States, President Trump is hurtling now via motorcade with the prime minister.

01:33:26.380 He's heading to the Knesset where he will address the Israeli people.

01:33:30.000 I believe that there will actually be some hostages and some hostage families there beforehand.

01:33:35.960 President Trump will get to meet them and to hear their stories and actually to, I think, embrace the moment.

01:33:45.820 This moment would not have come.

01:33:47.420 As Kurt Mills said and Ben Harnwell said so eloquently,

01:33:51.640 this is 100% the act of what they call a juggernaut.

01:33:57.800 President Trump, this is the force of personality, the force of will.

01:34:01.400 He, as we try to do in football, he imposed his will onto various parties to make this happen.

01:34:10.860 Of course, Bibi Netanyahu, not a fan of this deal.

01:34:15.540 Tel Aviv Levin and the Israel First crowd, not a fan of this deal.

01:34:19.560 But like we say here in the war room, they brought it.

01:34:22.320 They brought it on themselves.

01:34:24.460 And I think Gilbert's absolutely correct.

01:34:27.460 You've got some pretty dicey characters, particularly Turkey, right? 1.00

01:34:33.040 Turkey's going to provide the security.

01:34:34.680 Qatar and Saudi Arabia are going to provide the money.

01:34:38.980 President Trump's got his work cut out for him.

01:34:40.820 Remember, President Trump is the president of the Board of Peace.

01:34:44.320 And that is going to be quite a task, particularly with this cast of characters and their history.

01:34:51.340 Throw into that, you've got Tony Blair, who I think has been on the Qatar payroll for a couple of decades. 0.60

01:34:57.100 Anyway, we're going to get to all of this.

01:34:59.160 We're going to take a short commercial break.

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01:35:20.640 In the dead of the night, when the world is sleeping, Real America's Voice is live.

01:35:26.060 This Monday, 2 a.m. Eastern, history takes flight.

01:35:31.060 Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel, leading a high-stakes mission for peace and the long-awaited release of hostages.

01:35:38.420 After months of war and heartbreak, a breakthrough, a ceasefire, hostage releases, and the first steps towards a lasting Jerusalem accord.

01:35:48.340 Steve Bannon leads Real America's Voice live coverage, joined by powerful voices from Jerusalem,

01:35:54.560 as the world watches this historic...

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01:36:49.580 Margot, how are you?

01:37:14.400 Great to see you.

01:37:15.580 It's a pleasure to see you.

01:37:23.880 The United States and the Prime Minister, they come in, they get some mics up, I don't

01:37:49.700 know if President Trump will do a gaggle.

01:38:19.700 She's imagining quite a Christmas.

01:38:23.700 Yeah guys, not in front of the camera.

01:38:24.780 C'mere minister, over here. 0.94

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01:41:44.160 His arrival, the prime minister is already in.

01:41:49.940 I think this, Kurt Mills, I think this speech to the Knesset is not going to be one of President Trump's one hour.

01:41:57.280 I'm not so sure he's going to be going off the glass or off the prepared remarks.

01:42:01.700 I think this will probably be 20 to 30 minutes.

01:42:04.420 Your thoughts on that, what he's going to address to the Israeli people?

01:42:07.860 Because there's still a lot of moving pieces to this deal.

01:42:10.220 Yeah, I'm not sure how long it will be.

01:42:16.260 I'm not sure he'll hold them captive, so to speak.

01:42:21.660 But I think it's quite likely that he's going to make some pretty bold pronouncements here.

01:42:27.540 Yes, the deal is, the plane is being built as it's being flown, so to speak.

01:42:33.360 But that's sort of, I mean, as you know, how Trump does business and has done business throughout his career.

01:42:37.740 So if there's any odds and ends on the debate around the deal, if he feels the deal could be undermined by any of the parties, I think you may see oblique references to parts of the agreement that he wants to see solidified.

01:42:55.520 And I think that's why it's so notable that he's not just going to Israel, he's immediately going to Egypt.

01:43:02.380 He's immediately going to the Muslim world because he wants to square a huge deal on this. 0.86

01:43:09.020 And I underscore before, as I reiterated from before, he doesn't want to come back to the Middle East a third time in the calendar year.

01:43:18.420 I don't think. I think he wants to put a bow on this for now and then send Netanyahu to his constituents for an up or down vote on his performance.

01:43:29.740 It's not his affair, not his problem anymore.

01:43:32.400 Whether or not the Israeli side is going to agree to that, I think, remains an open question.

01:43:38.360 But I don't think he wants to see a war metastasized.

01:43:41.800 I don't think he wants to see a war open up with Iran.

01:43:45.100 There was a very, very, very interesting sub-element going on this weekend or early this week where the president actually invited the Iranians to his big party in Egypt.

01:43:56.460 The Iranians, from my perspective, unfortunately declined because they were a bureaucratic and paranoid society, somewhat justifiably on the latter. 1.00

01:44:05.920 But that shows you that the White House's mood right now is it might be autumn, but it's springtime for diplomacy by all appearances.

01:44:15.100 By the way, I think, aren't the Persians sending their foreign minister?

01:44:20.640 The president's not coming, but here comes the president of the United States.

01:44:24.960 Mr. President, I'm your honor, speaking of the Knesset.

01:44:37.060 Yes.

01:44:37.640 I'm my partner alone.

01:44:38.920 How are you?

01:44:40.300 Welcome to Jerusalem. 0.88

01:44:41.720 Welcome to the Knesset.

01:44:42.920 We've been longing for this day.

01:44:44.720 It's a great honor.

01:44:45.440 Thank you.

01:44:45.780 It's our honor.

01:44:46.800 Pleasure.

01:44:47.300 Thank you very much.

01:44:48.180 You guys know each other.

01:44:52.280 We know each other.

01:44:53.440 Of course.

01:44:58.920 Good.

01:44:59.880 Yes, please.

01:45:01.800 This way, Mr. President.

01:45:02.720 There's a tradition of signing the book when you come to the Knesset on a formal visit.

01:45:28.000 President will sign it right now.

01:45:29.200 I think I saw Ambassador Monica Crowley in there a moment ago.

01:45:35.640 Then here.

01:45:37.820 This one.

01:45:38.360 Avi.

01:45:38.860 Hello.

01:45:39.860 And please here.

01:45:42.700 Oh, my God.

01:45:43.280 You got it.

01:45:43.900 You got it.

01:45:44.100 You got it.

01:45:44.820 Let's try again.

01:45:51.200 Now here, please.

01:45:55.660 To Avi.

01:45:56.380 Everyone.

01:45:56.620 Everyone.

01:45:56.680 Everyone.

01:45:56.760 And.

01:45:59.480 White House.

01:46:00.680 Portographer, please.

01:46:02.120 Daniel.

01:46:04.620 Okay.

01:46:07.420 Okay.

01:46:08.840 Hello.

01:46:12.520 Hello.

01:46:15.720 Here.

01:46:17.940 Amen to that.

01:46:47.940 Thank you.

01:47:17.940 Thank you very much.

01:47:18.800 Thank you.

01:47:25.800 I have a line in front of him.

01:47:27.260 Thank you.

01:47:28.840 You're all good.

01:47:31.000 Thank you very much.

01:47:32.000 Thank you very much.

01:47:38.000 Thank you very much.

01:47:40.000 That he's been there with a greeting and the signature of only President Trump.

01:47:44.500 Ben Harnwell, as we move through here, I don't think I'm reading too much into it, but a little frosty between the Prime Minister and the President, or am I over-reading this situation?

01:48:00.880 No, no, no, no.

01:48:02.020 As enjoyable as it is to watch the line of ceremony and the vassals lining up, I think that was the Speaker of the Parliament, right, the Speaker of the Knesset, who tried to crack a joke saying, I believe you two guys know one another.

01:48:16.900 You're absolutely right.

01:48:19.360 It was frosty.

01:48:20.500 After signing the book, I noticed he didn't shake the hand of the Prime Minister standing to his right either.

01:48:28.220 So there was somewhat of a scowl going on.

01:48:33.040 That was absolutely my reading of this as well.

01:48:37.460 We're going to find out, I suppose, in due course, exactly what the conversations have been.

01:48:43.320 But you know what?

01:48:44.500 My summary of what we're seeing today would be this.

01:48:49.920 It's the management of expectations.

01:48:52.240 Whether today is a success or not, is perceived as a success or not,

01:48:56.660 depends, I think, it will revolve entirely around the management of expectations.

01:49:03.460 So, look, we're celebrating the release of the hostages.

01:49:06.940 We're celebrating the confirmation of Phase 1.

01:49:11.400 That is what I would say requires our appreciation and our applause.

01:49:17.120 If we go beyond that, I think there might be potential down the road for slight, I don't know, inverted commas, disappointment.

01:49:27.660 But these are stages that we're going to take in due course.

01:49:31.180 Obviously, the state of the situation is not going to go away.

01:49:34.540 And I think that's fundamentally where the issues are.

01:49:37.480 Can I close, Steve, before handing back to you saying this?

01:49:40.460 I don't trust Bibi and I don't trust Hamas either.

01:49:43.840 I don't trust either of them.

01:49:44.860 It's going to be in both of their interests, I think, to try to frustrate and create obstacles to this.

01:49:54.000 Yeah, hang on for a second.

01:49:57.840 You saw Ivanka and Jared right in back of the press.

01:50:01.600 I think I saw Susie Wiles too. 0.93

01:50:03.780 It's interesting, Kurt Mills, that Marco's not there.

01:50:09.000 Pete Hex is not there.

01:50:10.520 It looks like the entourage is really Whitcoff, Jared and Ivanka.

01:50:19.400 And Jared really and Whitcoff being the lead negotiators here.

01:50:21.680 I don't see a lot of other president's cabinet or others with him.

01:50:26.700 I believe Monica Crowley, the ambassador of protocol, is there.

01:50:30.140 But I don't see any Marco.

01:50:33.240 I think that's fairly – of course, you've got the press.

01:50:36.900 Let's hear the press.

01:50:37.820 I want to hear the press shout the questions as they always do.

01:50:40.160 Let's go ahead and cut the audio off.

01:50:41.740 Thank you.

01:50:56.700 What would happen if Hamadadadad complied with your plan, with this army?

01:51:13.700 Mr. President, Mr. President, do you have any message, Mr. President?

01:51:43.700 Will Israel not be able to renew the war in the message of Israel? 0.94

01:51:46.620 Mr. President, thank you.

01:51:47.520 Thank you.

01:51:52.360 You know, Joel, people in the United States have been quite concerned about the security around all this.

01:52:08.220 And I'll be honest with you.

01:52:09.420 I don't – I think this is way too confusing and way too looks like unmanageable. 1.00

01:52:16.440 I would – I mean, I just think there's too many people around, too much media around.

01:52:20.400 I don't get this.

01:52:21.400 Coming into Israel on the spur of the moment, Joel, you first and then Kurt.

01:52:27.660 But I really – we're just taking the fee from people.

01:52:31.300 But, man, I just don't – that right there look like they're just winging it.

01:52:36.200 The making of it as it goes along.

01:52:37.320 Joel Gilbert, your thoughts.

01:52:39.680 Yeah, I'm with you.

01:52:40.540 I'm very nervous when I see that many people crowded around the president from so many different directions.

01:52:46.280 Don't forget, a lot of these people have weapons that are authorized to have weapons.

01:52:51.680 But who knows if, you know, somebody has a beef.

01:52:55.180 You know, so I get a little nervous when there's not enough space between the president and a large crowd.

01:52:59.640 What occurred to me just watching this is this whole spectacle is based on misunderstanding.

01:53:08.120 I recall that, you know, I visited Israel and Gaza was a pretty peaceful place at one time.

01:53:14.900 But Israel gave up Gaza to the PLO terror group under the guise of the idea that peace would break out,

01:53:21.880 that all they really wanted was to have their own territory without Israelis and there would be peace. 0.74

01:53:27.780 And people cheered and they had the square and they sang songs and they danced.

01:53:33.140 And immediately it just fell apart because the Israelis fundamentally did not understand that the Islamic world

01:53:39.300 and the Palestinian Arabs did not want to accept Israel in any size or circumstance.

01:53:46.120 And I believe that attitude remains the same today.

01:53:48.840 And that's what they're going to encounter in the future.

01:53:52.540 But it's all a result of this fundamental misunderstanding is why they had the war and why Trump is even there today.

01:54:03.360 Ben Harnwell, I'll go to I'm going to go to Kurt in a second.

01:54:06.780 But, man, I didn't like what I just saw.

01:54:09.120 I'll be brutally frank with you.

01:54:10.740 I would want this thing much.

01:54:12.560 I want it high and tight when the president shows up.

01:54:15.420 Remember, we went to the Middle East in May of 2017.

01:54:20.680 We worked on the security for months and months and months.

01:54:24.380 The president, this decision was just made the other day.

01:54:27.120 But I don't like the fact you show up, you got all these people milling around, you're doing all these activities.

01:54:32.960 Then you just walk into a mob of reporters and, you know, a couple of microphones.

01:54:37.040 I see they cut that off.

01:54:38.220 But, man, somebody's got to be, you know, I think somebody's got to say, what is going on?

01:54:44.060 There's been two assassination attempts on this guy.

01:54:47.620 He's all we got, right?

01:54:49.240 You don't have any, no backup to him if we lose Trump now.

01:54:52.060 I got to tell you, I am very concerned and disappointed with what we've seen.

01:54:58.460 I just think it looks very shoddy ever since they got to the Knesset.

01:55:02.180 Ben Harnwell.

01:55:03.420 Well, Steve, what's the underlying assumption here of what you're saying?

01:55:06.720 Is it not the illustration of the fact that even though we're here today with all the crowds applauding the peace that is achieved so far, there is still the awareness that there is the potential that there will be agents who will try to frustrate this?

01:55:27.140 And that's really the subtext of what you're saying, right?

01:55:30.820 And that just illustrates, I think, how precarious the present position is.

01:55:36.180 And when you say there's no one who can replace President Trump, that's absolutely right.

01:55:40.120 And it goes back to what we were saying before, that the feat of today, the achievement of today is President Trump's success and his alone because of his force of will, his force of charisma.

01:55:53.340 And as you say, his force of personality.

01:55:55.320 This is his day.

01:55:56.420 And that, of course, that's why the precariousness of this situation is there, because if he weren't there, then the situation would rapidly dissolve once again.

01:56:10.020 And that's the subtext of what you're saying.

01:56:11.980 That's the importance of the security issue here, because we all know, we're all watching the feed here.

01:56:17.920 We're all sort of applauding and watching.

01:56:20.560 We know that there is probably going to be some pockets somewhere of people who will do what they can to frustrate this.

01:56:30.820 And I think that's the confirmation of that, right?

01:56:32.920 The fact of this uneasiness, the uneasiness as you see the chaos and the people milling out.

01:56:40.840 In what, of course, the Israeli parliament is going to be a very highly secure zone anyway.

01:56:45.520 So that the assumption is even within that environment, there could be malign forces waiting to strike.

01:56:55.300 It illustrates how precarious this is.

01:56:59.180 Just when he shows up, you know, it's not a photo op for the press.

01:57:02.640 By the way, they cut the feed.

01:57:04.000 We're just taking the feed that they're providing.

01:57:05.960 You saw the feed right there was it was pretty chaotic.

01:57:09.080 I mean, just a grunch of people around the president walking down that red carpet, going to what I guess were microphones that were going to, I don't know, say a few words and and have a press gaggle.

01:57:19.740 I just don't think it's just not the right time to do that.

01:57:22.760 President ought to get into the like he goes to the Capitol of the United States.

01:57:25.900 He ought to he ought to show up.

01:57:27.680 It ought to be a formal greeting for him, you know, sign the book.

01:57:31.400 But then you're taken to the to the back room.

01:57:34.140 There's no kind of milling around that hallway had the hallway had had, you know, a thousand people look like just kind of milling around, you know, wanting to see the president and the media right there.

01:57:47.680 So it's very, you know, very, I think you can say confusing.

01:57:53.160 And when the president of the United States goes to a place like Israel right now, and particularly to Jerusalem, given the you know, there's reports already in Gaza that, you know, some of the clans down there.

01:58:06.880 They're having some payback already to people they say are clouded to collaborate with the Israelis.

01:58:13.080 It's a it's a very volatile situation.

01:58:16.100 You know, we're a long way from peace.

01:58:17.920 President Trump has laid out the architecture and his force of will has brought us to this to get the 20 hostages released into into into, you know, start the process of peace.

01:58:31.120 But with all the celebration you see, and this is why I think we've had Joe Gilbert on for the last couple of days.

01:58:35.760 You've had these type of outpourings before where people in Israel thought there was going to be peace and it ended up not being peace.

01:58:42.620 Now, I don't think there's ever been an outpouring around an individual like there is around President Trump.

01:58:47.920 It's just extraordinary how they are relate.

01:58:51.220 They're connecting President Trump to this day of getting the hostages back when even a couple of weeks ago when Netanyahu went to the United Nations looks like the farthest thing from the from what was going to happen.

01:59:03.660 Kurt Mills, your thoughts on I'm pretty upset about this thing in the Knesset.

01:59:09.600 I just think it's unacceptable.

01:59:10.960 And, you know, I put this on Bibi and his government and also the interaction with the U.S. government.

01:59:17.960 But when the president of the United States comes into essentially a war zone and Israel is a war zone, you've had, as the president said, not Steve Bannon, president said 60,000 casualties in two years.

01:59:32.240 Kurt Mills, you know, pretty extraordinary.

01:59:34.900 Kurt Mills, your thoughts on what we just saw at the beginning of the Knesset, which I say was totally and completely unacceptable.

01:59:43.300 Yeah, I don't deign to presume, but I would be a little surprised if the security was this self-evidently shoddy on the Arab side. 1.00

01:59:51.120 So we'll see, hopefully, what that looks like in a few hours.

01:59:55.480 I do think it's interesting that he is traveling with such a light and quick footprint, at least on the front line, as you observed earlier.

02:00:04.600 Rubio, Hegseth, and if I may, Mossad's own John Ratcliffe are not in the picture, just Jared and Ivanka and Steve Wyckoff, his close friend.

02:00:16.240 That indicates, in my view, that Trump has kept this pretty close ranks, this decision making, as you indicated before.

02:00:26.420 This seemed extremely unlikely during the U.N. and New York in late September.

02:00:31.620 And I think the reality is, and people like to talk about structural forces of history, I think this is a great man, so to speak, moment of history.

02:00:39.660 Trump made this decision himself, and he's going with his family and close friends to try to get this across the finish line.

02:00:47.140 And I think you're right.

02:00:48.100 That was an icy reception from Benjamin Netanyahu and Sarah Netanyahu.

02:00:54.440 You know, the Trump-Netanyahu relationship is certainly worth a book.

02:00:59.480 I think it's certainly worth, it's certainly more than meets the eye.

02:01:03.480 Netanyahu, body language doesn't lie.

02:01:06.340 He doesn't look super happy.

02:01:07.900 His people look happier than him.

02:01:11.640 And the production value on this is very fly by the seat of the pants, right?

02:01:18.840 And, you know, especially with everything that's going on, that's less than adequate.

02:01:23.840 And it implies, you know, I don't want to speak too soon, but it implies a lack of enthusiasm within the Israeli state itself for the end of this war,

02:01:33.580 even though, I mean, look how desperate this population is for the return of the hostages and for the end of the war.

02:01:41.040 It just speaks to the sort of schizoid nature of Israeli society where the government is so much more hard aligned than so many good people in that country. 0.93

02:01:48.980 Well, you see the outpouring from the Israeli people in the square.

02:01:55.120 Also, the rest of the people at the Knesset greeting him were all smiles.

02:02:00.660 And I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, the president had just spent 45 minutes in the beast, in the car,

02:02:06.760 from Ben-Gurion Airport to the Knesset with Netanyahu.

02:02:11.560 I mean, they traveled together.

02:02:12.780 And like I said, like I asked Joel when they started off, I'd like to be the fly on, you know, inside the car to hear that conversation.

02:02:21.040 Clearly, it wasn't Hale fellow well met.

02:02:23.620 The president had his game face on when he showed up.

02:02:26.500 I've seen that look before.

02:02:27.600 That's not a, that's not the ebullient, you know, President Trump.

02:02:32.480 We got a shot inside the Knesset right now.

02:02:35.220 But Beebe clearly was icy. 1.00

02:02:37.020 And you said he didn't shake his hand after he signed the book.

02:02:39.680 He specifically went and shook the, what is it, the speaker of the Knesset's hand.

02:02:45.020 And, but pretty evident, did not turn and, you know, shake Beebe's.

02:02:51.760 I don't want to read too much into that, but it was clearly icy when they got out of the car

02:02:57.320 and got there.

02:02:58.120 And I think it's because Beebe's not enthusiastic.

02:03:01.220 This is a, this is a catastrophic defeat for the Israel first crowd here.

02:03:04.900 Tel Aviv, Levin, and that crowd, I'm sure they're banging their heads on the wall.

02:03:08.420 It's a catastrophic defeat because they overreached.

02:03:11.920 They pushed this greater Israel project and it came crashing down around them. 0.77

02:03:17.020 As the president of the United States, when Beebe, he already took out the negotiating team for Iran,

02:03:23.640 which we now know he bald-faced lie to the American people.

02:03:26.600 And quite frankly, John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, should be hauled before the House

02:03:31.820 about why he went around, why he agreed with the Mossad's assessment that this thing was

02:03:38.440 days or weeks away from a nuclear weapon when the cabinet minutes in the cabinet debate

02:03:44.700 was released by the Times of Israel.

02:03:47.700 And they agreed that it was a minimum of two years, of which we said here in the war room.

02:03:55.820 They went to kill the negotiating team that Steve Wyckoff was supposed to meet with in Oman

02:04:00.800 that Sunday.

02:04:01.760 And really the hit the trip where our President Trump was Netanyahu without, you know, without

02:04:08.360 talking to the United States, went and did a missile attack into Qatar and to take out

02:04:15.400 the negotiating team of Hamas.

02:04:16.820 I mean, how are you going to make a deal?

02:04:18.300 How are you going to try to get the hostages back with without doing that?

02:04:23.760 OK, we're going to try to take one more commercial break here.

02:04:26.020 If the president, if they if he walks into the chamber of the Knesset, we'll jump out of

02:04:31.780 a commercial break.

02:04:33.740 We're in the four o'clock hour.

02:04:35.500 We have Ben Harnwell, Joel Gilbert.

02:04:39.640 Kurt Mills, about to be joined by others as we return to Jerusalem.

02:04:46.740 The president is about to address the nation of Israel.

02:04:51.820 And we will be back momentarily.

02:04:54.180 If the president walks out, we will cut the commercial break and come right back, back

02:04:58.420 in a moment in the war room.

02:05:20.520 Here's your host, Stephen K.

02:05:22.740 OK, welcome back.

02:05:28.900 The president's in the Knesset and he'll be coming out to address the state of Israel,

02:05:35.080 the nation and the people here momentarily.

02:05:36.980 We'll cut right to that.

02:05:38.940 Matt Faraci, you're outside.

02:05:41.380 You're near the Knesset with a great shot.

02:05:45.000 Tell us what's going on.

02:05:45.920 Hey, Steve.

02:05:48.660 Well, I thought I would add some fun, a little bit of flavor and color to this day.

02:05:53.080 First of all, you commented on the slightly chaotic scene when the president came in, correct,

02:05:58.920 just a few minutes ago.

02:06:00.680 That is the Knesset.

02:06:02.080 People forget this is a country full of Jews.

02:06:07.000 I think the prime minister said once many years ago, the problem with being prime minister is that you're prime minister of a nation of prime ministers.

02:06:15.040 So it is a little bit, you know, when I take visitors to the Knesset, they're always surprised at the decorum.

02:06:27.020 You know, it's not like the U.S. Congress where there's a lot of decorum.

02:06:30.800 There is process, but there's people yelling at each other.

02:06:33.840 It's like a big family Thanksgiving special all the time, but with politics thrown in.

02:06:39.240 Another thing, fun thing I thought I'd share with your viewers today.

02:06:43.180 So as the president was pulling up, we heard the sound of the shofar. 0.95

02:06:47.540 Now, the shofar is a ram's horn. 0.99

02:06:49.520 It's an ancient thing from the Bible.

02:06:52.260 It's been used for thousands of years for many purposes, including at the temple.

02:06:56.540 It's used at this time of year during the Jewish high holidays for religious purposes.

02:07:01.580 But I heard something I never thought I'd hear in my life, which was the ram's horn going dun-da-da-da-da-da, dun-da-da-da-da-da, and they were blowing them as the president was showing up, which was just an extraordinarily cool thing.

02:07:16.420 You kind of got to be here to understand how significant that is, but everybody in Israel is celebrating.

02:07:24.700 Tell me, what's the musical instrument, and what do they do?

02:07:28.240 They play Hail to the Chief on what kind of musical instrument?

02:07:32.300 Yeah, it's literally a ram's horn.

02:07:34.580 So if you guys Google it, it's a big – I wish I had one with me.

02:07:38.640 They're about – they're anywhere from this little to, you know, a foot or two long.

02:07:44.020 And it only – you know, to blow a note out of it, to blow a tune out of it's hard because it's not like a trumpet.

02:07:50.940 It doesn't have – it doesn't have – you know, there's no way you can change the key.

02:07:55.580 So whoever was doing that was exceptionally talented, but there was a couple of folks doing it.

02:08:00.920 Just picture, Steve, almost like – I hate to mention Disney since we both have a healthy disdain for that institution.

02:08:08.020 But, you know, you picture the old Disney movies when the king is showing up and they would play the trumpets in like a, you know, kingly court situation.

02:08:16.940 Maybe kind of a similar analogy.

02:08:19.080 But we heard them blowing them as the president was showing up today.

02:08:22.220 And it wasn't coming from there.

02:08:24.040 It was coming from the neighborhood around the Knesset.

02:08:28.220 Wow.

02:08:28.920 Amazing.

02:08:29.600 Matt, hang on for a second.

02:08:31.680 I want to go to Sheva Balkany, an American activist that spends a lot of time in Israel.

02:08:37.560 Sheva, you've been doing amazing work up with the Druze in Syria, Lebanon.

02:08:43.060 You're in Jerusalem today.

02:08:44.960 And we're going to have to cut to the president as soon as they come to the Knesset.

02:08:48.260 But give us your perspective.

02:08:49.860 Put us in the room in Jerusalem about the celebratory nature of today.

02:08:54.380 Hi, Steve.

02:08:55.500 Thanks for having me.

02:08:57.560 So the feeling in Jerusalem today and in Israel is unbridled jubilation.

02:09:04.240 Everybody is so happy, excited that their family is being returned.

02:09:10.300 And I do want to point out that this is a distinction between Israel and Hamas,

02:09:16.460 that there is such a cherished feeling for the sanctity of life.

02:09:23.020 If you look at the numbers, only it's 20 living hostages for being exchanged for 2,000 prisoners and murderers.

02:09:34.820 So if you look at the footage of everything that's being shown here,

02:09:39.860 every single person in Israel is celebrating today, is celebrating America, loving Trump,

02:09:47.200 dancing like their own brother's son is returning because they are.

02:09:53.820 Is the candle worth the game?

02:10:00.740 I realize you're getting 20 hostages back and you can see the nations united around that.

02:10:05.500 But even part of the minimum part of the deal is 2,000 prisoners.

02:10:09.560 I think the top 250 were some of the hardest terrorists that Hamas had.

02:10:18.000 Now, obviously, the senior command of Hamas has been killed over the last couple of years by the IDF.

02:10:23.960 But has that sunk in to people that you're exchanging from Israeli prisons, 2,000, you know, bad hombres?

02:10:34.720 But in that 2,000, you got, I think, 250 of the top people that are designated as actual terrorists?

02:10:40.980 Oh, yeah. And everybody that I've spoken to is not happy about that at all.

02:10:47.880 I think there's been a divide where they are celebrating the return of their family.

02:10:54.080 Israel really was stuck in the heaviness and pain of the separation of the hostages

02:11:00.680 and the brutal torture that these hostages were going through.

02:11:04.800 And bringing them home was essential for Israel to move to the next step, which is protecting their people. 0.80

02:11:12.500 And that next step is going to be harder now that these 2,000 murderers are released.

02:11:19.980 135 of the 2,000 are going to international countries.

02:11:24.020 So that's something for the international community to keep in mind,

02:11:29.020 because these are not, you know, thieves on the street.

02:11:34.060 These are people that thrive on murdering people that are not aligned with their philosophy,

02:11:43.220 which is Western values, which is America, which is everything that we stand for.

02:11:48.980 Joel Gilbert, would the people that built the nation of Israel, particularly the folks in 67 or 73,

02:12:01.600 would they have made this deal?

02:12:03.000 Would they have been strung out for two years, part of this, because of a hostage situation, sir?

02:12:12.320 No, it changed over time.

02:12:14.360 Back in the 60s, they might have exchanged one terrorist for each individual hostage, like 20, you know.

02:12:22.720 It evolved over the years up to the point where Bibi Netanyahu released 1,000 prisoners back in 2011 for one Israeli soldier, Gilad Shalit, in Gaza, that was kidnapped.

02:12:34.600 And one of them was Sinwar, who became the head of Hamas and perpetrated the war. 0.89

02:12:41.920 So there's great concern when you release these 2,000 terrorists.

02:12:45.560 It's pretty well known that Hamas believes that when they lost all their leadership to Israeli assassination,

02:12:51.380 they felt, well, they'll just be replaced by these guys coming out of prison at some point.

02:12:55.760 And that certainly is their intention, that they're going to draw their new leadership from these terrorists who have been in prison all these years.

02:13:03.600 So, no, back in the 60s, maybe they would release one for one.

02:13:08.900 And somehow, I think Bibi had a big part of it, was saying, well, okay, we'll give you one for 1,000.

02:13:15.340 And that's part of what motivated, I think, Hamas even to embark on the October 7th attack in the first place,

02:13:21.500 because they knew if they take hostages, they can hold the country of Israel hostage and ultimately release thousands of their prisoners.

02:13:29.700 They don't care about losing 60,000 people.

02:13:33.900 In Gaza, the average family has 10 children.

02:13:36.800 That's just the average, 10 children, and it's paid for by the UN.

02:13:41.080 So, they don't mind.

02:13:42.820 They expect if they lose one or two kids per family, to them it's just part of the price of fighting Israel and their shahidim, their martyrs. 0.86

02:13:51.200 So, it's a completely different mindset.

02:13:53.500 It's Israel's strength and it's its weakness that it puts so much value in each individual person. 0.99

02:14:02.120 Ben Harnwell, the president's been there now for a few minutes.

02:14:05.780 He was supposed to spend a few minutes.

02:14:07.380 I don't know if he's meeting with hostage families, but I believe the conversation with Netanyahu and the president is probably continuing on.

02:14:16.920 Do you think that's going to have any impact on what the president says in his remarks?

02:14:20.480 Kurt Mills, can I toss that question to you?

02:14:35.000 Yes, of course.

02:14:37.020 Yeah, I mean, I think this will be directed by Trump pretty overtly.

02:14:42.840 And I do think, I just can't keep emphasizing this enough, he's not in Israel very long.

02:14:49.520 Trump seems to want to speak to the Israeli political class.

02:14:52.800 He seems to want to speak to the Israeli population.

02:14:55.760 And then he wants to get out of Dodge.

02:14:57.700 And I think that's a pretty overt decision.

02:15:00.640 I would remind that Trump did not visit Israel on his last trip to the region in May.

02:15:06.840 And that also appeared to be an intentional maneuver.

02:15:11.100 I take what the co-panelist says, you know, very well.

02:15:15.480 But the reality is that Gaza and Hamas don't have that many cards, to use the president's words.

02:15:23.820 No country in the world has a fertility rate of 10.

02:15:27.240 Gaza, basically, as far as anyone understands, has a fertility rate of somewhere between 3 to 4, which has been declining since the 2000s.

02:15:34.840 Hamas is running out of people as well.

02:15:37.820 Some of their political bureau could be replenished by this hostage exchange.

02:15:42.200 But most of the hardliners, the ones who planned the October 7th massacre, have been assassinated.

02:15:49.000 Mohammed al-Deef, the mastermind. 1.00

02:15:52.160 Ismail Hania, the political leadership in Doha, which is unclear if they ever even knew about the October 7th attack, have been eliminated.

02:16:01.820 Sinwar has been killed.

02:16:03.740 And, you know, I do think Trump is probably subtly delivering the message.

02:16:10.760 The strike on Doha in late September was the watershed moment.

02:16:15.740 And the reality is that Netanyahu missed.

02:16:17.800 He didn't kill most of the Hamas negotiators that he sought to kill.

02:16:22.440 And the reality is this deal.

02:16:25.120 And Trump wants to call it.

02:16:26.900 And I think you're going to see it there.

02:16:28.820 Trump is going to talk to Netanyahu today for a shorter amount of time than we are talking together this morning for four hours.

02:16:37.200 And I think that speaks volumes.

02:16:39.240 Trump has done a lot for Israel.

02:16:40.980 Trump has done a lot for Benjamin Netanyahu, I think, more than he deserves.

02:16:44.440 And I think this is he wants to call it.

02:16:46.600 It's hard to imagine if they ink this deal and the Israelis try to start up a new war with Iran, I think they might find themselves in worse position than they might imagine.

02:16:57.760 That ceasefire in June, a lot of murky stuff on that.

02:17:01.580 I think it was, at the end of the day, brokered on behalf of the Israelis.

02:17:05.400 They were running out of interceptors.

02:17:06.820 And if Israel tries to broaden this war and stick the bill with Uncle Sucker, I think it's going to be cold. 0.68

02:17:18.060 It's impossible.

02:17:19.420 The Persian fantasy is over. 0.95

02:17:22.640 I mean, the total obliteration.

02:17:23.980 Joel, and by the way, I don't want to say the attitude, but one of the issues the world has, and I think the reason that President Trump continues to say that people are loving Israel now, and he told Netanyahu you can't take on the world, is the dehumanization of the Palestinian population.

02:17:45.960 And we've got to remember, there's not an insignificant amount of Christians in Palestine, and I know this from Christians. 0.97

02:17:54.120 I know they've done relief work there.

02:17:56.540 They are absolutely 100% anti-IDF, anti-Israel.

02:18:00.840 And they said Israel has been essentially, I'm not saying this, but they said it's been genocide what they've seen.

02:18:07.080 How do you respond to that?

02:18:09.400 Because clearly the world's, I mean, one of the reasons Netanyahu is up against the wall is he's lost tremendous political support here in the United States.

02:18:17.620 Let me make a few comments.

02:18:19.500 Look, Hamas deliberately dragged out the war with the assist from the Biden administration, especially at the beginning, by dribbling out hostages, you know, 10 at a time or 20 at a time, and refused to end the war.

02:18:33.220 So because they dragged it out for so long, one reason they did that, because they knew that they were winning the PR game over time.

02:18:40.920 But I believe that Trump understands that the United States cannot exist as the lone democracy in the world between two oceans.

02:18:50.920 The United States must have strong democratic allies around the world, including Australia, Japan, Western Europe, and Israel.

02:18:57.840 And I think Trump understands, and people in the administration understand, that they need a strong democratic.

02:19:05.980 We have to go to a break.

02:19:08.280 We've got to go to a break.

02:19:09.280 We're going to be back.

02:19:09.980 If President Trump comes to the Knesset, we'll cut right to it.

02:19:12.480 But I will make the argument to Joel Gilbert that Israel is not an ally of the United States.

02:19:17.040 They're a protectorate of the United States.

02:19:18.980 Short break.

02:19:19.540 Back to the war room.

02:19:20.560 Here's your host, Stephen K.

02:19:22.600 Bannon.

02:19:22.920 Okay, can we pull, let's pull that shot up of the Knesset right there.

02:19:31.140 Really magnificent.

02:19:32.360 The president is going to, momentarily, I think he actually may be meeting at least with some of the families of the hostages behind the scenes.

02:19:40.880 We are running about on the program of what they led about an hour behind, and I think the president's remarks are going to be at least 30 minutes.

02:19:51.880 And if the president, as he often does, freelances a little bit, it'll go longer.

02:19:59.180 But we'll have to see about that.

02:20:00.440 Still massive enthusiasm in Tel Aviv at Hostage Square right there.

02:20:07.040 The Knesset, the president, will be coming out momentarily, and we will cut to that live.

02:20:11.460 We want to hear all of it.

02:20:13.600 Joel, overall, for the hostages, I think there were 250 taken.

02:20:19.700 My young production team here is pretty shocked that we get down to the end of it, there's only 20 that are still alive.

02:20:26.480 And I'm sure some of those are in pretty bad shape.

02:20:30.500 I know some of the early hostages released were in bad shape.

02:20:32.900 All the female hostages and American hostages have been released a while ago.

02:20:39.920 But, you know, I think the majority of hostages didn't make it out alive.

02:20:46.380 Am I correct on that?

02:20:48.460 The number I have is 155 made it out alive.

02:20:52.140 I also think about the mistake that the United States made after 9-11.

02:20:58.620 We lost 3,000 people at the World Trade Center, and then we went and lost 7,000 soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

02:21:07.540 Similarly, Israel was trying to save 250 hostages, and they lost about 800 soldiers fighting in Gaza, ostensibly, to get these hostages back.

02:21:16.860 So there's some real tragic military calculations when it comes to trying to get these hostages back.

02:21:26.340 They did lose.

02:21:27.180 All they did was, you know, destroy most of Gaza, but lost 800 people trying to get 200 out and ended up with only 155 in the end. 0.95

02:21:35.200 Why has there not been any inquiry?

02:21:41.460 I realize you've been at war, but in the early years of World War II, when we finally got dragged in after December 7th,

02:21:47.620 I think we had, in the first two years, three or four major inquiries into Pearl Harbor.

02:21:53.980 Now, I think we ended up with seven or eight.

02:21:56.200 We've never really gotten the answer straight of exactly what happened and who knew what at what time.

02:22:01.140 But has it surprised you there hasn't been any inquiry into 7 October?

02:22:07.380 I think they've had some low-level internal IDF type of probes.

02:22:12.760 Why didn't they, you know, why didn't they have proper positioning of forces down there?

02:22:19.260 I think the Mossad had some internal things.

02:22:21.540 Some people did resign.

02:22:23.480 But the idea in Israel was that we really can't have a big inquiry while the war is going on.

02:22:29.120 And I think people mostly respected that.

02:22:31.400 Netanyahu made the case that we can't all go and hire lawyers right now.

02:22:35.720 We're trying to win a war.

02:22:36.900 The Iran thing came up. 0.83

02:22:38.660 So I do expect it to come up.

02:22:41.020 The Israelis became complacent over 20 years. 0.98

02:22:44.060 They simply shuffled Qatari money into Hamas and felt that they could buy them off 0.54

02:22:49.180 and they wouldn't be interested in war.

02:22:50.620 And they obviously badly miscalculated and have paid the price.

02:22:56.940 I mean, was it shocking to you that President Trump's here today on a date that actually bringing the remaining hostages home,

02:23:04.080 20 males, I understand now, the final 13 have been turned over.

02:23:09.920 The planning that went into October, I mean, Jack Posobiec, I got him on the show by phone that morning

02:23:16.560 as we did the Saturday War Room, as we always do, and we covered it live.

02:23:21.280 And it was pretty stunning, the scale of it.

02:23:23.760 I mean, it was over 40 miles.

02:23:25.960 It was air-sea land.

02:23:28.620 They had, what, the paragliders.

02:23:30.460 They eventually found out they had floor plans for many of the kibbutzes. 1.00

02:23:34.560 They absolutely knew about the Nova music festival and what to do there.

02:23:39.560 They actually knew who the guards were on different guard towers.

02:23:43.640 I mean, the level of sophistication of their knowledge was shocking.

02:23:46.900 And given that Hamas has never been known as a particularly, you know, they're terrorists,

02:23:52.900 but haven't been known for military operations, this was to pull off a military operation.

02:23:57.960 Did that shock you at the time of how sophisticated that operation was?

02:24:01.720 Well, look, it was sophisticated, but it was also very low-tech.

02:24:05.540 9-11, it was eight guys with box cutters.

02:24:08.920 And because it was so low-tech, they were able to penetrate the system.

02:24:12.860 So, too, in Gaza, they had about 6,000 fighters on bicycles, tractors,

02:24:19.620 and walking around in sandals and motorcycles.

02:24:22.060 So it was so low-tech, I think the Israelis did not anticipate something that low-tech.

02:24:27.220 Hamas had done recon for years and knew where to go and what they were doing.

02:24:33.320 But it was a very low-tech assault.

02:24:36.220 They had smuggled over plenty of weapons from Egypt for years.

02:24:40.080 And, you know, it was an assault that kind of shocked us all.

02:24:45.440 But, no, I wasn't shocked because it was all manpower.

02:24:49.420 They had 6,000 people, a bunch of rifles, and a bunch of motorcycles.

02:24:55.580 And they encountered a defenseless group of kibbutzim that did not have proper defense installations 1.00

02:25:02.860 to guard against that kind of low-tech attack.

02:25:05.120 And as you had mentioned, many of the people in the kibbutzes and the people at the NOVA,

02:25:12.500 or the Burning Man, as I call it, had actually befriended people in Palestine,

02:25:17.060 had taken them to hospitals and kids to school.

02:25:18.920 Oh, yeah.

02:25:19.100 Okay.

02:25:20.000 We're going to take a break here at the top of the hour.

02:25:23.500 Hang on.

02:25:24.180 We'll get to that when we get back.

02:25:26.000 We're going to take a break at the top of the hour.

02:25:28.780 It's close to 5 a.m. in the United States.

02:25:31.780 Dave Bratt is going to join us.

02:25:33.260 The president, like I said, we're running probably on the schedule, I don't know, an hour behind.

02:25:38.460 The president's going to address the Knesset.

02:25:41.240 I think he's behind the scenes meeting with some hostage families

02:25:45.280 and probably spending some more time with the prime minister.

02:25:48.720 His speech to the nation of Israel is next, and we're going to return.

02:25:54.320 If a president walks out during our commercial break, we'll come right back.

02:25:57.900 Shava Balcony, Matt Farazi, Joel Gilbert, our own Ben Harnwell, and, of course, Kurt Mills.

02:26:07.880 We'll be joined by Dave Bratt.

02:26:09.800 Special coverage for Real America's Voice in the War Room of the historic trip to Israel by the president of the United States.

02:26:17.400 Back in a moment.

02:26:18.040 In the dead of the night, when the world is sleeping, Real America's Voice is live.

02:26:24.860 This Monday, 2 a.m. Eastern, history takes flight.

02:26:29.880 Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel, leading a high-stakes mission for peace and the long-awaited release of hostages.

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02:27:21.740 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

02:27:26.880 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

02:27:30.800 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

02:27:36.440 The people have had a belly full of it.

02:27:38.400 I know you don't like hearing that.

02:27:39.820 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

02:27:42.460 It's going to happen.

02:27:43.740 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

02:27:47.140 Mega media.

02:27:48.040 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

02:27:53.880 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

02:27:57.680 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

02:28:03.960 War Room.

02:28:04.880 Here's your host, Stephen K.

02:28:06.800 It's Monday, 13 October, in the year of our Lord, 2025.

02:28:16.820 It is Columbus Day here in the United States of America, and it's a day of peace in the Middle East,

02:28:24.140 and particularly in Israel and in Gaza today.

02:28:26.820 President of the United States, Commander-in-Chief is there.

02:28:29.280 By the way, the eagle eye of the War Room posse informs me, and I think I saw him too.

02:28:33.320 Little Marco is there, Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State.

02:28:37.000 He was in that fiasco that was in the Knesset, which was totally unacceptable and unsat,

02:28:44.420 and someone in Secret Service or President Trump's security has got to be, you know,

02:28:49.780 hey, I realize you're going over there, spur of the moment, but you have to be in charge.

02:28:55.620 That thing was embarrassing, and we're going to cut that footage on the 10 o'clock show today.

02:28:59.660 I'm going to go through it again because I thought it was very dangerous,

02:29:03.180 and people, particularly the war on posse, are concerned about President Trump's security.

02:29:07.080 They already had two assassination attempts, and President Trump is basically all we got between ourselves and the abyss.

02:29:14.840 So it has to be extra careful.

02:29:18.200 Kurt Mills, I think we're right.

02:29:19.640 There is a hang-up because we're running a little late,

02:29:22.300 and part of that now it's being reported by Israeli media that there's a little negotiation going on,

02:29:29.260 I think, in the background, that actual Netanyahu will be going to Egypt for the meeting this afternoon.

02:29:35.500 It's not confirmed yet based on my assessment of the available sources.

02:29:41.400 He is speaking to Egyptian President Sisi right now, he being Prime Minister Netanyahu.

02:29:47.920 I don't really understand why it would leak that his attendance is contingent.

02:29:54.920 He's already not confirmed, and now that the call is happening, it's still unclear if he's going to attend.

02:30:00.900 So it would be sort of bizarre if at the end of this that he didn't attend,

02:30:05.840 but it appears to be on offer that he may, in fact, go.

02:30:10.220 Of course, Egypt is not one of the countries that Netanyahu is, generally speaking, the most comfortable going to.

02:30:18.660 He has a rapprochement basically with UAE, Saudi, but Egypt is, of course, home to Cairo,

02:30:28.380 the largest city in the Arab world, where the Arab street's not that fond of the Israeli state.

02:30:35.240 And so there may be security concerns to get Netanyahu in this minute.

02:30:40.300 But again, it does speak to the sort of...

02:30:42.140 But you have to go to the...

02:30:43.580 You are going to the resort.

02:30:46.480 So it's...

02:30:46.960 By the way, Egypt is the home of the... 0.97

02:30:49.620 The birthplace of the Muslim Brotherhood, right? 0.83

02:30:51.820 And filled with Muslim Brotherhood everywhere. 0.99

02:30:56.880 And Qatar may be their new financier and their new sponsor.

02:31:00.340 Go ahead, sir.

02:31:00.860 Yeah, it costs Sisi political capital, though, internally to host Netanyahu, right?

02:31:06.300 I mean, and this is...

02:31:07.760 Yeah, no.

02:31:09.320 But yeah.

02:31:10.660 Can you...

02:31:11.460 But can you have an overall...

02:31:13.780 President Trump says this is a peace...

02:31:15.920 This is a peace conference.

02:31:18.160 You got Macron showing up because he's got to stick his mouth in something, right?

02:31:22.360 Obviously, his country's about to employ... 0.98

02:31:24.940 The Fifth Republic is about to get swept out to sea, but he's got time to go here.

02:31:30.240 You got Sir Keir Starmer.

02:31:32.260 You got Maloney.

02:31:34.200 You got...

02:31:35.360 I think the Germans may show up. 0.92

02:31:36.960 You got every deadbeat in Europe that wants to attend.

02:31:41.760 Wouldn't it be odd to try to have this without...

02:31:44.800 Because I think it said earlier the Palestinian Authority was going to attend.

02:31:48.460 Wouldn't it be odd to invite the Persians and not have the Israelis who... 0.81

02:31:53.760 Whether you like them or not, it got to be a central part of this, sir?

02:31:57.840 Presumably, the Israelis have been invited.

02:32:00.320 I mean, I don't know what they would be discussing right now if there wasn't an open invitation.

02:32:04.180 So if Washington and the Arab world didn't invite them, that would be news to me.

02:32:09.000 I think what is going on here is something we spoke earlier in the programming this morning,

02:32:15.420 is Netanyahu's lack of commitment to ending the war.

02:32:20.600 He may argue that Gaza is done for the moment.

02:32:26.160 The last ceasefire held less than 60 days.

02:32:28.820 He may argue that Gaza is done for the moment, but this is a license to expand into Yemen, Lebanon, and Iran.

02:32:35.300 And so accordingly, giving the blessing of his presence in Egypt could be seen as a signal

02:32:41.760 that he is on board with the peace deal, which is, of course, not fully the case,

02:32:48.440 which is why you see this sort of difficult tango.

02:32:52.160 Additionally, I think you see, and I was just going to say,

02:32:55.300 the sort of ramshackle nature of the organization here.

02:32:58.480 Like, pick a lane.

02:33:00.560 Attend or not, right?

02:33:01.960 I mean, obviously, a lot of life is contingent,

02:33:04.600 but it is fairly extraordinary that Netanyahu is apparently negotiating with the Egyptian president right now

02:33:10.140 while we wait the president of the United States address to the Knesset.

02:33:14.480 You know, this is just not the most ideal ally.

02:33:19.220 I know it's in a tough neighborhood.

02:33:20.400 I know it's at war, but it'd be hard to imagine this in Germany or Britain or France or Japan.

02:33:29.280 Well, yeah, I think this is, like you said, we're building the plane as we fly the plane.

02:33:33.180 And Sheva Balkany, what do the Israelis want to hear today?

02:33:38.680 And what do you think they must hear from the president of the United States

02:33:42.300 in this address to the nation from the Knesset?

02:33:47.920 Inherited a really disastrous situation from the last administration.

02:33:54.220 And he did an amazing job in getting the hostages back and moving forward.

02:33:59.240 However, I am looking forward to a day that America becomes a nation, again,

02:34:05.460 that does not negotiate with terrorists.

02:34:09.280 And Hamas is a terrorist organization that will never change its stripes. 0.66

02:34:13.840 It's an ideology that is heavy in extreme Islam, which, you know, does not align with Western

02:34:25.920 civilization, American ideals.

02:34:28.900 And in that way, America will always stand with Israel. 0.90

02:34:32.800 And their concerns over a permanent ceasefire are heard.

02:34:38.060 You know, the coming days will show us what is going to unfold, but Hamas cannot be trusted. 0.99

02:34:46.700 They are terrorists, and they are dangerous for the world at large.

02:34:55.940 Sheva, where can people get you on social media? 0.60

02:34:58.700 We'll try to have you back here before the president punches out of Israel and goes, heads to Egypt.

02:35:04.900 In the interim, what is your social media?

02:35:06.720 Where can people follow you?

02:35:08.580 I just have a personal page, which is my name, Sheva Balcony.

02:35:11.960 But my non-for-profit to help widows and families affected by the war is withheartandhonor.org.

02:35:23.700 That's withheartandhonor.org.

02:35:25.480 It's on the screen.

02:35:26.840 With Heart and Honor.

02:35:29.140 And what's the purpose?

02:35:32.000 What do you guys do at Heart and Honor?

02:35:33.700 We help families, especially widows and moms who lost sons, with moral support and whatever they may need.

02:35:49.980 Sheva, thank you for joining us.

02:35:51.280 Look forward to having you back on.

02:35:52.560 Thank you, Steve.

02:35:52.700 Maybe in the 10 o'clock hour of the war room.

02:35:55.240 Thank you.

02:35:55.980 Thank you, girl.

02:35:56.540 Ben Harnwell.

02:36:02.220 To Kurt Mills, look, we are making this up as we go along.

02:36:05.240 The president is great on calling audibles.

02:36:08.160 He's the guy that brings people together.

02:36:10.040 But I do think even this afternoon, this has a slightly shambolic feel to it, does not.

02:36:16.060 And my concern, my primary concern, is security for the president of the United States.

02:36:21.360 I am really upset what I saw in the Knesset.

02:36:24.420 And I realized Matt Faraci said, hey, look, the thing runs a little loose, right?

02:36:29.660 You know, they're normally having shouting matches with each other.

02:36:32.260 It's not the decorum, if you can call decorum what we see in the House of Representatives.

02:36:37.400 But does that give you concern that particularly it's pretty uncertain right now?

02:36:46.040 And I keep arguing.

02:36:47.240 I said, hey, look, it's obvious to me that this is the beginning of a two-state solution, 0.55

02:36:52.700 something Netanyahu swore just two weeks ago.

02:36:56.220 In fact, I have the Wall Street Journal right here from two weeks ago when he addressed the

02:36:59.480 U.N.

02:37:00.500 And two-thirds of the U.N. got up and walked out of his speech to show there's disdain for

02:37:05.280 him.

02:37:05.460 And Netanyahu doesn't care.

02:37:07.520 He gives as good as he gets.

02:37:09.480 He's kind of telling them when you leave, hey, you can do anything you want.

02:37:12.800 You can assault me.

02:37:13.600 You can do anything.

02:37:14.380 But there's never going to be a Palestinian state.

02:37:17.040 This afternoon in Egypt, you're going to have the beginning of what is a two-state solution.

02:37:23.460 You're going to have the beginning of a Palestinian state.

02:37:25.820 Two million Palestinians are going to remain there. 0.99

02:37:28.100 They're going to completely redevelop it.

02:37:30.060 Tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions of dollars are going to come in from the Gulf

02:37:33.900 Emirates, supposedly.

02:37:35.200 This is the deal.

02:37:36.120 And the Turks are somehow going to put together some security force.

02:37:41.340 By the way, there's the president.

02:37:42.640 I think we're about to go.

02:37:43.680 Ben, the shambolic nature of this, given that they're trying to negotiate Netanyahu going

02:37:49.200 this afternoon.

02:37:49.780 Well, I don't want to overplay this, but the potential, you know, given all the various

02:37:58.540 dynamics in the world at the moment, it's a bit like the Archduke Franz Ferdinand right

02:38:03.560 now, and President Trump has that weight on his shoulders.

02:38:08.760 There are so many dynamics in the world that literally depend on him and his being president

02:38:16.220 right now.

02:38:16.960 And there are a lot of evil forces in the world as well.

02:38:20.240 So, yeah, it's shambolic.

02:38:22.220 Is the shambles, is it a feature or is it a bug at the moment?

02:38:27.340 Strange because normally Mossad have the reputation of drilling these things, security things, in

02:38:34.540 Israel, in the Gnesset, like no other intelligence security operators on the face of the planet.

02:38:42.540 So to see these things does raise a question mark, a legitimate question, Steve.

02:38:47.120 Look, if you give me one minute, I just want to quickly respond to something because it is

02:38:50.760 important what you were saying earlier on the show, I think it was with Kurt, about the prior

02:38:56.700 warning that Israel may have had about the 7th of October attacks.

02:39:02.140 No less an authority than the New York Times.

02:39:06.280 OK, so the New York Times, not the war room, not Gateway or anything like that.

02:39:12.920 This is not the National Post.

02:39:16.460 The New York Times ran an in-depth article about a year and a half ago.

02:39:22.940 Yeah, a year and a half ago, basically suggesting that Netanyahu had been briefed beforehand that

02:39:30.000 something like October the 7th was brewing.

02:39:34.020 They had a 40-page document called, from memory, Operation Jericho Wall, right, that they've got

02:39:41.680 from Hamas, which had plans of a hang glider, paraglider attack.

02:39:47.840 And Netanyahu did nothing.

02:39:49.440 Now, we can go into that later on the show in the time that remains to us, but the subtext

02:39:57.660 to the New York Times article was that allowing this to take place, the massacre, the outrage

02:40:03.760 to take place, was convenient for Netanyahu, whose ratings before October the 7th were in

02:40:11.420 the tank and afterwards just catapulted into stratospheric levels.

02:40:17.540 So that's the situation.

02:40:19.200 And I say that's not Ben Harnwell saying that.

02:40:21.140 That was the New York Times a year and a half ago.

02:40:27.680 We have Dave Bratt.

02:40:28.980 I want to bring Dave Bratt in here before the president goes to the podium and addresses.

02:40:33.620 Dave Bratt, your thoughts so far?

02:40:35.760 You're joining us here in the five o'clock hour.

02:40:38.600 We've been rolling since, what, two?

02:40:41.500 And I think the footage has been amazing, what we've seen from the Israeli people, this

02:40:46.300 outpouring for the hostess, although I think we have a consensus that for as much as the

02:40:51.280 outpouring is, there's a lot of hard truths that are coming out today, and particularly

02:40:57.600 in Egypt at this conference.

02:41:00.460 Your thoughts, sir, as you join us?

02:41:03.000 Yeah, I think that's right.

02:41:04.860 I think Ben Harnwell hit it on the head as well when he said, you know, this day, this

02:41:11.180 piece, which is hugely significant, is reliant on one man.

02:41:16.920 And so that's always problematic.

02:41:19.160 But I do have a countertake, and that is, you know, the New York Times, the headline right

02:41:25.300 now isn't that pleasant.

02:41:27.180 You know, why couldn't it have been sooner?

02:41:29.680 The Washington Post, you know, no rave reviews.

02:41:32.140 But the one good thing about today is the transparency.

02:41:34.740 Even if it's going to be brutal, right, I think the American people are going to learn,

02:41:39.740 right?

02:41:39.960 And both sides are going to see both sides, the warts and all.

02:41:45.060 And that ugliness may actually propel a hard piece forward.

02:41:52.280 You know, Hamas is not, you know, giving all the statements the world wants to hear right 0.71

02:41:57.460 now about moving forward with goodwill.

02:41:59.360 Even Israel is going to be reluctant to say the war's over for good.

02:42:05.620 But I think when people see what's been going on over the past couple of years and really

02:42:11.440 dig in a little bit more than they have, this day will show the world both sides.

02:42:18.280 And so thank God for Donald Trump.

02:42:21.140 It is a great day.

02:42:23.640 The hostages are coming home.

02:42:26.340 There is a moment of peace here.

02:42:28.660 We're all keeping our fingers crossed and praying for this peace because, as the other

02:42:34.120 analysts have been saying all morning, this thing is connected to a web, to a tinderbox

02:42:39.740 of other world events.

02:42:41.620 But getting this and the other seven countries related to this, right, that's the, you know,

02:42:46.980 the U.S. interests and Israel's interests haven't always been perfectly aligned on this,

02:42:51.740 right?

02:42:52.020 The U.S. wants peace with all seven economic development.

02:42:55.540 We got other things to do.

02:42:56.400 We got to move on and end the Ukraine thing and then move on to China.

02:43:00.180 And so if this can hold, it's a great day.

02:43:06.680 I want to go to transparency.

02:43:08.360 Just I want to for the audience, we're going to turn over the coverage at six, which is

02:43:13.100 about 45 minutes to Steve Gruber.

02:43:15.860 And Steve Gruber is then going to lead into the into the morning show.

02:43:19.360 We're going to be back at 10 a.m. for the for a war room.

02:43:22.760 And we plan on being covering at least the beginning of the Egyptian part of this.

02:43:27.620 And then President Trump is actually going to fly back tonight.

02:43:29.920 He's not going to stay overnight in Egypt.

02:43:31.200 So this is a one day trip that's Herculean, essentially four hours in in Israel.

02:43:37.780 And I think there's going to be two or three hours in Egypt at the at the conference.

02:43:40.840 I'm sure that's going to extend, particularly since this is taking longer.

02:43:44.940 So if President Trump takes the podium and his speech goes, and as President Trump has

02:43:50.520 been known to do when he gets wound up, he'll normally go longer than 40, 45 minutes.

02:43:55.520 If that happens, we will.

02:43:56.960 I will come on and tell you when we're turning over to Steve Gruber and Steve Gruber will

02:44:00.440 bring it back.

02:44:01.100 And I want to thank Real America's Voice.

02:44:03.740 The coverage today has been fantastic.

02:44:05.180 Once again, just the logistics of this extraordinary.

02:44:08.780 I want to thank the Denver team, Palm Beach, all of it for for for jumping in here.

02:44:15.240 Brett, go back.

02:44:16.400 What do you mean transparency of it?

02:44:18.000 I mean, we've been covering this since the president left yesterday afternoon.

02:44:21.900 We've had great analysts on, you know, Joel Gilbert's joined us, the great Kurt Mills.

02:44:26.560 We've had Poso and we've been breaking this down.

02:44:29.340 And what you see is kind of in front of you.

02:44:31.860 And you actually saw, I think today, you know, the president, you know, had Witkoff there

02:44:36.320 and Jarrett there and Ivanka there. 1.00

02:44:38.520 Marco was on the plane with him, obviously.

02:44:40.920 And but there seemed to be a kind of a frostiness between Netanyahu and the president.

02:44:46.820 I don't want to overplay that too much, but it seemed like it definitely was something.

02:44:50.940 What do you mean by transparent?

02:44:52.700 And what is it that's transparent?

02:44:55.780 And why is that a good thing right now?

02:44:58.020 Yeah.

02:44:59.340 Yeah, well, the war room's been covering this.

02:45:02.660 But, you know, we're all the Politico diehards.

02:45:05.460 You know, every day we follow all of it.

02:45:08.060 But the American people now and the major papers, you know, the Financial Times, New York Times,

02:45:14.340 Washington Post, they're all going to be begrudgingly have to cover this great day where

02:45:19.820 President Trump is not a fascist and not a Nazi and not a, you know, evildoer.

02:45:25.760 And when he's bringing peace to the Middle East, which has eluded everybody for 50 years.

02:45:31.340 And so there's going to be a lot of press coverage on this today.

02:45:34.220 But the details are going to come out, right?

02:45:36.520 How many soldiers have died in this process?

02:45:40.060 What has happened to the people on the ground in Palestine?

02:45:43.620 The rubble footage, a lot of this, you know, has not been fully covered, to say, to put it politely.

02:45:51.460 And so as that comes out, the wounds are going to get deeper, right?

02:45:56.540 On both sides, there's going to be gory details, which no one wants to hear about on a day of peace and going forward.

02:46:04.100 But the goriness of that news and of the coverage, I think, on all sides is going to lead.

02:46:12.200 Maybe this is just, you know, it's my prayer that it moves this way, right?

02:46:16.400 All the forces are in place for this to cave, in my view, right?

02:46:21.040 But the hopeful piece is that now everyone is going to see the gory details on both sides and say, we cannot have this anymore.

02:46:28.560 And I think that'll give President Trump a little bit more leverage with the public will, right?

02:46:33.560 You just look at the news you hear from the pro-war folks versus look at the people on the street in Israel.

02:46:41.540 They clearly want peace.

02:46:43.800 Even that, that's kind of a breaking news piece psychologically, maybe, for a lot of Americans to see that and for the rest of the world to see that.

02:46:53.340 And so on the Hamas side, we'll see they're going to interview people.

02:46:57.120 And you've been seeing just the innocents interviewed running back to their homes and hoping there's something left.

02:47:01.700 You know, a woman, you know, yesterday on the news clips wanting to see if there's a blanket or a pillow or anything left because the winter's coming.

02:47:08.660 You know, and so those stories, as they come out, that's going to be full transparency, hopefully, you know, for 48 hours at least.

02:47:16.020 And I think that's going to put a whole new level of introspection on both sides to say, we cannot go back to war.

02:47:25.880 But, you know, a one false flag operation by either side, and that's what I'm worried about, right?

02:47:32.560 Some bomb goes up by accident, somebody gets bombed, somebody, you know, some incident is planted.

02:47:39.800 And I'm very, like you said, I'm very worried about President Trump's safety today.

02:47:45.760 You cannot have any mishaps.

02:47:48.120 And his folks need to clear him out of there if there's anything that's not been completely vetted ahead of time.

02:47:54.840 And so those are my initial thoughts as we start this great day.

02:48:00.420 People are starting to come in, so we're going to go momentarily.

02:48:03.060 I want to get Gilbert in here.

02:48:04.080 By the way, what happened in the basement of the Knesset today when he first got there was not acceptable in any level.

02:48:11.780 If we don't – without Trump, you're overlooking the abyss right now.

02:48:16.680 Without Trump, we got nothing, okay?

02:48:18.780 That's how – this is why I continue to say he's like General Washington, President Lincoln, and Trump, and for all his flaws, okay?

02:48:27.500 For – add up all the flaws, and he's still what we have between ourselves and in the abyss.

02:48:33.840 Joe Gilbert, Brad brings up a brilliant point.

02:48:37.280 You're going to have all the stories of the 20 hostages, the folks that were kept to the end.

02:48:42.620 You're going to have all the brutality of that.

02:48:44.400 Plus, the media is now going to get into Gaza, which has been blocked, and you're going to see something that looks like Dresden in World War II. 0.54

02:48:51.440 In addition, you're going to have some details leak out this afternoon, maybe even something signed in Egypt that I'm not quite sure the Israeli people in the euphoria about the hashes coming back have quite processed what's really going down here.

02:49:08.760 Is that transparency going to throw this whole thing off the rails, sir?

02:49:12.680 I think there's too many moving parts.

02:49:17.400 You've got these terrorists being released in Gaza, West Bank, all over the world.

02:49:22.240 People are going to be concerned about what they're doing.

02:49:24.000 There's going to be this economic initiative coming out of Egypt that Trump's going to be a part of.

02:49:30.600 There's going to be bulldozers all over, Gaza clearing rubble.

02:49:35.560 There's going to be so much going on.

02:49:37.060 I don't think it's going to get distracted with what's happened in the past.

02:49:40.660 I wanted to mention this very interesting story.

02:49:44.100 When Hamas kidnapped people and put them in these golf carts and were driving them into Gaza from the Israeli Kibbutzim, there was one girl.

02:49:53.960 They showed the video about a teenage girl, and she said to her captor, she said, where are we going?

02:49:59.840 And he said, we're going to Gaza.

02:50:01.260 And she said, oh, I have friends in Palestine.

02:50:04.960 And that just shows you the gap in understanding that these Israeli Kibbutzim thought they were befriending the Gazans all this time. 0.63

02:50:13.880 They had made friends.

02:50:15.840 They took them to hospitals.

02:50:17.320 They hosted them.

02:50:19.380 And they thought they were creating a friendship.

02:50:21.900 But from the Islamic and Gazan point of view, they really hated the Israelis all along, and they view them as inferior, not people that you can have equal relations with or recognize their state.

02:50:35.620 So that gap remains, that the Muslim, Palestinian, Arabs don't hate Israel.

02:50:43.420 They don't want an Israeli state. 0.97

02:50:45.140 They don't want peace with it.

02:50:46.880 And somehow all this money is supposed to go into Gaza and solve that problem.

02:50:52.000 It's never really solved that problem.

02:50:53.880 And I think we've got much more trouble ahead than thinking that things will come out from what happened in the past.

02:51:02.620 So I think we're going to turn our eyes to the Knesset speech and then to what's going to happen in Egypt.

02:51:11.320 Kurt, get us up to speed.

02:51:14.160 There's clearly something going on behind the scenes right now.

02:51:17.020 We know at least part of it has to do with the meeting in Egypt.

02:51:21.360 Is Netanyahu going, not going?

02:51:24.360 What's the latest we know?

02:51:27.340 Still no confirmation, to my knowledge, about Netanyahu's attendance in Egypt.

02:51:32.400 Obviously, something has occurred that required Sisi and Netanyahu to get on the phone with each other right before the president's speech to the Knesset.

02:51:43.040 So there could be some subterfuge or negotiations occurring that we're not currently aware of.

02:51:52.680 Hamas has released all 20 of these remaining Israeli living hostages.

02:51:59.940 So we would now move to phase two of the deal, the disarmament, et cetera.

02:52:06.000 So it's not clear why the logistics of this have to be so painstakingly negotiated minute by minute.

02:52:13.260 I mean, I know this is human affairs, but something definitely seems possible to be up.

02:52:20.280 If I had to bet, it's probably a Netanyahu attendance in Egypt. 0.66

02:52:26.020 But for some reason, that is seen as deeply controversial, either to the Palestinian side or the Arab side writ large.

02:52:33.280 What about Dave Brat's point about transparency?

02:52:39.120 Today, you're going to have all the stories of the hostages, and I'm sure the last 20 are going to be – some stories are going to be quite brutal about their treatment.

02:52:48.760 Also, you're going to have the media now in for the first time, I think, over the next couple of days to see the devastation in Gaza up close and personal, which they have been restricted.

02:52:58.780 And you're going to have some elements of this deal, which I continue to say is – it's definitely the proto-two-state solution, right, with Qatar and the Saudis' big financial sponsors and the Turks as a big security sponsor.

02:53:15.920 As that gets absorbed to the Israeli people, where do you think we're going to – or to the world, what's going to happen, do you think, in the next couple of days is the world is really going to have to confront the brutality of the war, but also the brutality of what happened to these individuals?

02:53:32.180 Yeah, I think it's going to be a media cyclone.

02:53:34.000 So it's going to be hard to say which way it breaks.

02:53:37.980 The Israeli PR machine, and it is a machine, is going to kick into high gear. 0.74

02:53:43.700 The reality, though, is that the testimonials of the hostages and the hostages' families themselves are a real mixed bag for the Israeli prime minister, to put it mildly.

02:53:54.040 The hostages' families, I'd say broadly speaking, have been protesting and lobbying the government to end this war sooner.

02:54:01.580 And the hostages themselves may be in no condition to give media testimonials, understandably.

02:54:09.040 And if they do, they may bemoan the degree to which they were held in captivity.

02:54:14.720 Why didn't their own government negotiate for the release sooner?

02:54:18.360 And, of course, it's because the hostages' release was just one of a number of objectives pursued by Netanyahu, not the sole objective.

02:54:26.000 As for the Palestinian side, look, there's already been reports of 200 bodies uncovered in the rubble.

02:54:34.720 Obviously, that's just a fraction of the number that is due to be recovered and due to be, you know, sadly put into the tally of this war.

02:54:43.680 And, you know, people I trust in the region have long said, look, reporters and documentarians basically can't get into Gaza.

02:54:53.300 And as this is uncovered and as and it's already been horrifically covered, I mean, the stuff that has been smuggled out.

02:55:00.240 But as this is uncovered, this could very well be the largest crime scene in the world.

02:55:04.760 It's going to be ghastly.

02:55:05.860 By the way, you talk about the Israeli machine, the Islamist in the Muslim Brotherhood got a pretty good machine, too. 0.60

02:55:18.040 I mean, TikTok was a turned into a propaganda machine of showing this stuff.

02:55:24.180 So, you know, they give as good as they get.

02:55:26.920 We're going to take a short commercial break.

02:55:29.000 We will pull out of the commercial break immediately if the president comes into the Knesset.

02:55:34.380 I think there, besides maybe meeting with some of the families, there's definitely, I believe, some wheeling and dealing going on in the back.

02:55:42.760 As I said, this, Kurt, I think, said it well.

02:55:46.240 We're building the plane as we're flying the plane.

02:55:49.220 President Trump has a house style.

02:55:51.040 One of his house styles is deal momentum.

02:55:53.860 You keep driving the deal and you keep driving to the to the conclusion of the close.

02:55:59.560 You know, certain things will fall off.

02:56:01.560 They're not important.

02:56:02.340 Other things are important.

02:56:03.380 You'll get to focus on and get them done.

02:56:05.600 That's just the way he is as a deal guy for a unique style.

02:56:09.920 It is a day, a historic day in in Israel, historic day in the Middle East.

02:56:15.840 We're going to return in a moment as the president of the United States addresses.

02:56:19.800 Here's your host, Stephen K.

02:56:21.880 Bannon.

02:56:22.240 Okay, welcome back.

02:56:29.500 Joe Gilbert, you've got some reporting to do here about President Trump is actually, it is official.

02:56:36.900 He is meeting with a large group of families.

02:56:39.440 Why don't you tell us about it?

02:56:41.180 Yeah, on social media, there's a number of photos.

02:56:43.280 Trump is sitting with Netanyahu with a large group of hostage families.

02:56:46.860 It appears the hostage families are passing the microphone around and Trump is very gracious.

02:56:52.720 He does a lot of listening and it appears he's just listening.

02:56:56.180 So I think that's the reason for the delay in the Knesset.

02:56:59.120 He's trying to be respectful to these hostage families.

02:57:01.840 It does appear in the photos there might even be one, one hostage that just got out.

02:57:07.500 So this delay could last for a while because Trump is very gracious when it comes to, to meeting with people, especially those who have suffered.

02:57:15.360 So this could go on for some time.

02:57:19.340 Yeah, no, President Trump, very empathetic.

02:57:22.300 Kurt Mills, I think, nailed it.

02:57:23.620 It doesn't get played up enough, but knowing the guy, he's got a huge heart.

02:57:26.760 But, Joe, are we not seeing that in media?

02:57:34.060 Are we not seeing that live because are they concerned that some of the hostage families may say something to Netanyahu

02:57:39.020 or may even say something to the president that would not be in keeping with his day as a celebratory?

02:57:44.620 Because we know there is a lot of anger, right?

02:57:47.560 These individuals released today, the last of them have been there for over two years.

02:57:52.720 The treatment, we know, has been absolutely brutal.

02:57:57.680 What is your thoughts on why this is not being shown?

02:58:00.860 Because to me, this would actually be, to an American audience, this is, quite frankly, much bigger than the address to the Knesset.

02:58:07.380 This is kind of what people have been waiting for and looking for as Trump the peacemaker, sir.

02:58:13.020 Well, I'm looking at these photos.

02:58:14.260 There are no cameras.

02:58:15.280 You know, Ivanka is there.

02:58:16.860 Jared is there.

02:58:17.640 Witkoff. 0.72

02:58:18.080 Everybody's there.

02:58:19.420 But it's about 100 people crowded around, seated, and they've got microphones in the crowd.

02:58:26.300 So it looks like almost like some kind of therapeutic event where hostages get to talk to the president and tell them what they've been through.

02:58:36.120 And he just seems like, looks like a very good listener.

02:58:38.640 I would assume some of the comments and things are very private, and they absolutely don't have any cameras in there.

02:58:45.620 There are still cameras, but no television cameras.

02:58:49.980 Maybe we'll get a report about it later.

02:58:51.780 But that's the reason for the delay, because Trump was supposed to be speaking to the Knesset already.

02:58:57.140 Dave Brat, for an American audience, I mean, that's kind of what people have come for is Trump the peacemaker.

02:59:07.760 Trump did something nobody else could do.

02:59:09.480 Trump has changed the arc of history in the Middle East.

02:59:12.420 Obviously, you know, we're of the belief the hostages are one thing, but there's a much—the geopolitical forces over there make this even more important.

02:59:22.620 And what happens in Egypt today may be as important as the hostages being released, but there's no television cameras there.

02:59:30.860 It's all print media or traditional photography.

02:59:34.780 Does that strike you as odd?

02:59:39.420 Yeah, I don't know what technology they want going beyond the security and whatever.

02:59:44.260 But, you know, President Trump, you know, what was just said is important in a few ways.

02:59:49.260 You know, he's got a big heart.

02:59:50.400 He wants to meet those people, and on the—you know, in addition to that, he is a genius of the human spirit.

02:59:59.780 He wants to look in those eyes and see, really, what this means.

03:00:05.420 You know, I think he's very highly intelligent, especially reading a room and reading people.

03:00:11.440 There's no one like him.

03:00:12.480 So when he's in there with the people, I think, you know, number one, he loves it.

03:00:18.140 You know, he's always with the waiters and the waitresses behind the scenes at restaurants and the folks who work the golf courses and whatever.

03:00:26.120 And I think he's doing the same thing here, and he's learning about people.

03:00:29.460 And so it'll be fascinating to see him come out of there with new eyes, I think, too.

03:00:38.260 And, you know, all this is going to bowl him over.

03:00:41.320 And then what you're saying about the cameras and the newsprint, I think everyone's going to be very overly cautious there because, you know, we simplify this thing.

03:00:52.440 And the mainstream media and, you know, you've got the warmongers here, the peaceniks here.

03:00:58.140 In Israel, you've got many subgroups that want different outcomes.

03:01:03.120 And so it's not monolithic.

03:01:04.500 It's not the U.S. wants this and Israel wants this or whatever.

03:01:07.880 There's subgroups all over, and it's a very, very delicate balance, as we all know today.

03:01:14.440 But the huge forces are in play for peace here.

03:01:18.600 Hamas is the one who their own logic doesn't really want this peace.

03:01:26.640 So that's the one peace, you know, they have to have an offer.

03:01:32.540 And I want to see what that ends up looking like, right?

03:01:35.240 There's got to be some compelling interest.

03:01:38.500 They've been getting money out of this deal.

03:01:40.580 It's part of their reason for existence.

03:01:43.500 And so I'm waiting to hear what all is involved there.

03:01:47.820 Israel, I think the people want a peace.

03:01:49.820 The polling has been pretty clear on that all across the map.

03:01:52.900 In the U.S., we want peace on the polling.

03:01:56.000 But then the political leaders, and as I said, you know, all it takes is one of these little teeny terrorist cells to plant a false flag operation,

03:02:05.960 say, look what they just did, and boom, we're back at it.

03:02:09.420 And hopefully, Colmer heads, more rational heads.

03:02:12.360 And Trump, I think, is just sick of it, right?

03:02:15.300 He wants to be done.

03:02:16.400 I think that's the dominant motif of the day, is Trump is just sick of it.

03:02:21.440 And he put his foot down and said, we're having peace, and I don't care who you are.

03:02:25.500 I don't care if you're Hamas. 0.98

03:02:26.900 And that's probably what Hamas felt as well, right? 0.87

03:02:31.960 Israel said, okay, yep, all right.

03:02:34.040 And this day is due to President Donald Trump.

03:02:38.560 He gets the highest peace prize from God above.

03:02:44.140 And Jesus, who said, blessed are the peacemakers, right?

03:02:47.880 He's the peacemaker today, and we all need to be with him in prayer and in support,

03:02:54.120 writing letters in your papers and celebrating what Trump is trying to do around the world.

03:02:59.840 He wanted peace in Ukraine.

03:03:02.760 That thing is so complex with Russia-China linkages now and whatever.

03:03:08.520 It's tougher than people thought.

03:03:10.100 But he's working that one too, so he can bring all his energy home here and make this country

03:03:16.060 even greater than what it is today.

03:03:20.500 What is it?

03:03:21.120 Blessed are the peacemakers, they are the sons of God.

03:03:25.560 I think they've changed their children.

03:03:26.780 Yep, yep, yep.

03:03:27.680 They'll be called the sons of God, right?

03:03:32.240 Kurt Mills, I want everybody in this audience to understand something.

03:03:35.720 When you take a red eye either from L.A. to New York and you got to work or take it from

03:03:40.480 New York to London, let's say, just draining, changing time zones,

03:03:46.060 sleeping on the plane, you get there.

03:03:48.420 Every now and again, I would go right to a meeting or breakfast meeting,

03:03:51.640 but mostly you want to go to the hotel, maybe get a couple hours of sleep,

03:03:56.160 take a shower, get a late breakfast, and then go hit it at noon or 1 o'clock.

03:04:00.820 The president of the United States, after working every consecutive day,

03:04:07.180 leaves yesterday, takes a long flight, holds a press gaggle, a 20-minute press gaggle.

03:04:12.360 We were only able to show like five or six minutes of it.

03:04:16.060 He gets off the plane, immediately gets in with Netanyahu, spends 45 minutes talking

03:04:21.220 to Netanyahu on the way up.

03:04:22.720 He's about to give a major address, but he spends over an hour now behind the scenes

03:04:28.360 with family, listening to them.

03:04:30.100 And he's still got to go to Egypt and give an address there and talk about the overall

03:04:33.860 peace deal.

03:04:35.440 All of this on the world stage.

03:04:37.720 Just the energy.

03:04:38.600 You talked about the empathy.

03:04:39.780 Just the energy.

03:04:40.760 Sitting there and listening to the 100 hostage families or to the 100 people associated with

03:04:46.680 the hostages would be so draining in and of itself.

03:04:49.340 That'd be an entire day.

03:04:50.320 You wouldn't have everything left over.

03:04:52.340 Talk to me about, this is why this guy's so unique.

03:04:54.400 This is why I'm so upset about the shoddy, obviously shoddy security for the president

03:04:58.900 when he was down there at the basement of the Knesset or the first floor of the Knesset.

03:05:03.080 Because he's all we got, right?

03:05:05.580 You can say he's all we got.

03:05:07.920 He stands between us and the abyss.

03:05:10.360 For all his imperfections, he's what's between us and the abyss.

03:05:15.580 Talk to me about not just the empathy.

03:05:18.360 Would you correctly spot it?

03:05:20.460 And that's why he spent an hour listening, as Joel Gilbert says, listening to the hostages

03:05:24.240 families, but also the energy of the man, sir.

03:05:28.640 Yeah, it's crazy.

03:05:29.480 I saw the schedule, the itinerary for this trip over the weekend, and I did think it

03:05:35.720 was extremely odd that he was leaving in late afternoon Eastern time and that he was going

03:05:41.020 to arrive basically nearly at dawn in the Middle East and just go straight and do it.

03:05:48.640 And you know better than me, but Air Force One is fairly comfortable, but it's not a hotel.

03:05:57.160 It is an airplane, ultimately.

03:06:00.120 And for him to just go out from the tarmac to this, to another country, meet with people

03:06:07.740 as diverse as heads of state to, you know, and I mean, with no respect, the most decrepit 1.00

03:06:14.360 humans on earth, the people that have been held in these conditions by Hamas, is just extraordinary.

03:06:21.900 And you do talk about the singular nature of this president, and I think it's conceded

03:06:27.580 by many, and it's what was discussed.

03:06:30.820 It's conceded by a lot of his critics as well.

03:06:33.180 I was looking, you know, during the break, there's this piece out by this small UK outlet

03:06:38.640 called The New World.

03:06:40.280 It's a magazine, and this is a sort of left-wing magazine.

03:06:42.960 And this guy says, a bowling autocrat, his terms, has succeeded where years of calm diplomacy 0.61

03:06:49.180 failed.

03:06:50.180 Progressives must ask why.

03:06:52.300 And the reality is, I've seen a lot of people complaining that why didn't Biden force Netanyahu

03:06:58.900 into this kind of deal?

03:07:00.760 And when I say force, the U.S. gets a vote.

03:07:03.840 The U.S. is a military supporter of Israel.

03:07:06.100 The U.S. runs endless cover for Israel diplomatically, most famously at the U.N., but also throughout

03:07:13.000 Europe and the broader world.

03:07:15.480 And Biden just let this go on and on and on.

03:07:19.340 And Trump, you know, maybe it could have happened sooner.

03:07:22.580 Maybe we could have avoided hawk summer and the Iran shenanigans. 0.97

03:07:26.460 But we have seen the basic approach of this administration from not just day one, day minus

03:07:31.620 four or five, when Wyckoff did this deal before Trump was even inaugurated.

03:07:35.780 When Trump opened negotiations with the Iranians, when Trump negotiated with Hamas, when Trump

03:07:41.720 went to the Middle East and denounced neoconservatism.

03:07:44.940 And now, at the 11th hour, as I said yesterday, when it looked like it was totally dark, when

03:07:50.380 there was no chance for this, we have a miracle or what appears to be a miracle deal to end

03:07:57.180 this war.

03:07:57.700 And it's certainly, certainly a miracle for the 20 hostages returned to their families and,

03:08:02.880 you know, the terrible ordeal that those folks have been through, needless to say.

03:08:07.420 Joe, we're coming down to like the last 10 minutes and there's Marco right there.

03:08:13.640 By the way, the uniformed services are also some of the people that will implement this.

03:08:18.020 You saw the, particularly the Navy Admiral who's in charge of CENTCOM.

03:08:21.900 There's Marco.

03:08:22.520 They're starting to come in now.

03:08:23.460 So the president will be, I'm sure, momentarily.

03:08:25.800 Joel, give me a minute or two summary of your thinking as we get ready for the president

03:08:31.240 to take the stage, the podium in the Knesset.

03:08:36.240 I'm thinking this is the culmination of some great efforts by our president to get this deal

03:08:42.020 done.

03:08:42.420 The Israeli people wanted the hostages out.

03:08:44.720 He got the hostages out.

03:08:46.720 I see nothing but dangers ahead because I think there are forces that are seeking to

03:08:55.460 make sure Israel emerges from this episode with a political defeat.

03:09:00.620 I believe all the Gulf states, Turkey, Egypt, Macron, Prime Minister of Canada and England,

03:09:08.900 they're all going to Sham Al-Sheikh to try to assure they stack the deck to make sure Israel 0.97

03:09:14.200 is politically defeated and set the stage for the creation of a Palestinian state in Gaza

03:09:18.600 to be followed by demands for Israel to withdraw from the West Bank and Jerusalem and set up

03:09:25.480 an Israeli election choice next year where the Israeli electorate has to decide between peace

03:09:31.180 with all these countries and doesn't quite understand that their definition of peace is

03:09:36.380 very different from Israel's definition of peace.

03:09:38.780 And I see nothing but danger ahead in how this thing is going to play out politically for Israel.

03:09:47.140 I agree with you 1,000 percent.

03:09:49.780 And as I say, I believe that this was brought on by the Israel first crowd, 1.00

03:09:54.700 Tel Aviv Levin in this crowd here in the United States,

03:09:57.240 that led Netanyahu to believe that he had ultimate power to just do what he was going to do.

03:10:03.280 And he finally hit President Trump's tripwire, came close to hitting the tripwire in Persia.

03:10:08.220 He definitely hit the tripwire when he tried to kill the second negotiating team with Hamas in Qatar. 0.51

03:10:15.080 It was the attack on Qatar and not giving President Trump a heads up.

03:10:19.200 Knowing President Trump, you've got to go pretty far in the woods to hit his tripwire.

03:10:22.580 That tripwire was hit then and everything's changed.

03:10:25.560 I agree with you about this is a two-state solution.

03:10:29.740 And I think it's going to start dawning on people in Israel pretty quickly that it is.

03:10:33.700 Joe Gilbert, your social media, where do people get your films, particularly your films on Israel?

03:10:38.660 Where do they get them?

03:10:40.400 Yeah.

03:10:40.760 If you go to my farewellisrael.com, which I produced this film when Israel agreed to give away Gaza, 0.52

03:10:48.260 Atomic Jihad about Iran, highway61ent.com is my film website.

03:10:54.220 And on Twitter, I'm Joel S. Gilbert, Joel S. Gilbert.

03:10:58.300 And you can link up to all my films there on Barack Obama, politics, Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney,

03:11:04.680 and so many great new films, including Roseanne Barr.

03:11:08.600 That's my new movie just coming out, roseanneisamerica.com.

03:11:13.580 And it's on all the live streaming networks right now, roseanneisamerica.com.

03:11:17.440 Amazing film, amazing person.

03:11:21.600 She's quite unique.

03:11:23.080 We were very honored to have you guys in the war room.

03:11:26.180 There's Ivanka right there. 0.98

03:11:27.760 Joel, thank you so much.

03:11:29.300 Appreciate you being here with us for the duration and for yesterday.

03:11:33.160 Joel Gilbert.

03:11:35.760 Knows the region, knows the players.

03:11:37.680 By the way, we had right there, you've got Hegseth, you've got little Marco,

03:11:41.640 you've got the Ambassador Huckabee, who I think ought to be recalled immediately in disgrace.

03:11:47.700 His performance has been nothing short of disgraceful.

03:11:51.100 Also, the director of the CIA.

03:11:52.900 I believe the director of the CIA needs to come to the House and to the Senate

03:11:56.480 and explain to the American people why he told the president that, yes,

03:12:01.580 it was two weeks away from a bomb when we now know from the Times of Israel

03:12:06.500 that it was two years, like we said here in the war room.

03:12:12.840 Okay, the president, I think, is coming.

03:12:14.640 We're going to cut right to it.

03:12:16.080 Steve Gruber is going to pick up from here.

03:12:18.520 Kurt Mills, we don't have it?

03:12:20.840 Okay.

03:12:22.780 Somebody's getting applauded.

03:12:23.860 I think they're probably thinking.

03:12:24.940 Kurt Mills, give me a two-minute wrap-up while they start to applaud

03:12:28.760 the Mossad-controlled director of the CIA, Ratcliffe.

03:12:32.500 Yeah, I think I also saw Miriam Adelson in the crowd as well.

03:12:38.200 So, again, a lot of different agendas here.

03:12:42.080 Not all, per se, rooting for President Trump's peace,

03:12:46.080 or at least to be done with war in this region for the remainder of his term.

03:12:52.180 Still, an extraordinary show of hands,

03:12:56.600 an extraordinary column of American support for this deal.

03:13:01.320 Rubio, Hagseth, Huckabee, Ratcliffe, Stephen Miller, I saw.

03:13:07.960 You know, this is quite a showing here, and it speaks to, you know,

03:13:13.020 I think you know him more than almost anyone.

03:13:15.480 If the president is hauling all those people over here,

03:13:18.620 he wants this to be done.

03:13:20.400 This is somebody who knows the power of theatrics and ceremony more than most,

03:13:24.500 and it would be a humiliation if our alleged allies immediately broke this deal.

03:13:31.960 So I think he is speaking to the world today.

03:13:34.580 He's speaking to the Arab world,

03:13:36.300 but he's also speaking to the leadership of Israel, in Israel,

03:13:41.980 making clear that this is his line in the sand,

03:13:45.220 and careful in crossing it.

03:13:47.480 Kurt Mills, where do people go on your social media?

03:13:54.100 You'll have a lot to say today.

03:13:55.620 I want everybody to go to your Twitter account

03:13:57.180 as you keep people up to speed with what's going on.

03:14:01.500 Sure.

03:14:02.020 The Twitter account, the X account,

03:14:03.620 is at KurtMills, at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-O-S, 0.98

03:14:06.540 M-I-L-O-S, on X, at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-O-S, on X.

03:14:12.400 And the magazine is www.theamericanconservative.com,

03:14:16.880 magazine founded in 2002 here in D.C.

03:14:19.820 by conservatives and friends against the Iraq war,

03:14:22.840 hoping to avoid the mistakes like that again in the future.

03:14:26.800 Thank you.

03:14:28.220 Do you agree with me on my assessment of Radcliffe?

03:14:32.380 Am I too harsh on the CIA director?

03:14:34.280 I haven't seen the administration or Radcliffe or CIA

03:14:39.260 deny the fairly well-substantiated allegations

03:14:43.560 that he was shuffling Mossad intelligence

03:14:47.040 at the absolute height of the crisis in June with Iran.

03:14:51.760 Look, the president is entitled to all information.

03:14:54.640 The president can listen to the Israelis.

03:14:56.480 But accepting Israeli claims about the region

03:14:59.500 on the face of it is insane,

03:15:02.640 especially because of the number of decisions

03:15:05.420 we ended up making during the Iran crisis

03:15:08.140 based on that intelligence.

03:15:10.080 And the reality is we don't know that much.

03:15:12.940 And that's the legacy.

03:15:14.140 I mentioned the Iraq war.

03:15:15.400 That was the legacy of the Iraq war. 0.97

03:15:17.460 Check out Steve Call's book,

03:15:19.220 The Achilles Trap,

03:15:20.360 that is all about what the CIA knew

03:15:22.280 going into the Iraq war.

03:15:23.620 Turns out, not very much.

03:15:25.380 Saddam Hussein was basically retired

03:15:27.040 and writing a novel.

03:15:28.160 His weapons programs have been basically dismantled.

03:15:30.720 He was not the same guy as he was in Gulf War I

03:15:33.660 and the Iran-Iraq war.

03:15:35.600 And I caution, we don't know that much about Iran.

03:15:39.260 Unfortunately, it's a closed and bureaucratic

03:15:41.560 and gerontocratic Islamic society.

03:15:44.240 But the reality is they are not saber-rattling for a war.

03:15:48.740 Our alleged allies are.

03:15:50.420 And we should be very wary.

03:15:51.620 Brother, thank you so much.

03:15:55.580 Ben Harnwell, can you give us some pearls of wisdom

03:15:58.360 before we call on you in the 10 o'clock hour, sir?

03:16:02.640 Yeah, well, look, Steve, people with longer memories

03:16:06.380 will remember how Bibi stabbed President Trump, 0.91

03:16:10.500 who'd shown him nothing but loyalty and support

03:16:12.720 in his first administration,

03:16:14.360 stabbed President Trump in the back

03:16:19.340 over the stolen election

03:16:20.940 in his rush to embrace Joe Biden

03:16:25.060 and walked all over what he presumed would be

03:16:28.300 President Trump's political corpse.

03:16:31.680 Bibi has had a good run.

03:16:33.800 I'm amazed he got this far.

03:16:35.840 And now, finally,

03:16:37.360 what I consider to be justice is being done.

03:16:39.800 And Bibi's no longer calling the shots 0.99

03:16:43.840 over a US administration, not remotely.

03:16:47.960 This is a very good, necessary, long-overdue realignment.

03:16:53.080 We'll see how far this goes in the future.

03:16:56.500 But one thing, I'll close with this, Steve.

03:16:58.460 One thing to note here,

03:17:00.140 with President Trump's graciousness

03:17:03.040 to the hostages and the families,

03:17:05.700 that whoever did the scheduling of this,

03:17:08.360 I guess will have had some appreciation

03:17:10.180 of the time necessary in order to do that properly.

03:17:12.940 The consequence of that is that

03:17:14.380 President Trump has made the Knesset wait there

03:17:18.000 for, what, an hour and a half in its seat

03:17:20.240 waiting for him, like the vassals they are.

03:17:23.520 And that isn't also, I think, entirely appropriate.

03:17:29.120 If only Miriam Adelson was in that crowd for an hour 1.00

03:17:31.960 would be even better.

03:17:33.440 Ben Harnwell, your social media, where do folks go?

03:17:35.740 Well, thanks, Steve.

03:17:37.520 Get up my social media platform of choice

03:17:39.900 at Harnwell, which is my surname.

03:17:42.400 Thanks, Steve.

03:17:42.880 God bless.

03:17:43.400 Catch you at 10 a.m.

03:17:45.120 Thank you.

03:17:46.680 Thank you, sir.

03:17:47.540 Dave Bratt, thank you for coming in

03:17:49.320 for the five o'clock hour.

03:17:50.340 You've been absolutely brilliant.

03:17:52.200 Give us some closing thoughts

03:17:53.320 before we toss to Steve Gruber,

03:17:55.780 who's going to take us home.

03:17:56.960 Well, Harnwell is pretty perceptive there.

03:18:02.640 And it was interesting when you scan the room,

03:18:05.320 it almost looked like the court of Henry V or whatever.

03:18:08.080 The faces on the inner court there,

03:18:11.280 Hegseth, Huckabee, Rubio,

03:18:15.720 you know, the Israelis, as you scan the room,

03:18:17.700 were happy.

03:18:18.500 Not as much happiness from our leader, Stephen Miller.

03:18:21.240 No, his face is stiff and he doesn't look happy.

03:18:25.080 Dave, here comes the President of the United States.

03:18:29.180 Let's cut live to the Knesset.

03:18:32.100 Steve Gruber is going to take you here.

03:18:33.580 We'll be back in the worm at 10 o'clock.

03:18:35.360 Thank you.

03:18:55.080 Thank you.

03:19:08.280 Thank you.

03:19:20.680 Come move forward.

03:19:50.680 Mr. President, we see Miriam Edelson there on the balcony.

03:20:20.680 Please sit down.

03:20:39.680 Knesset members, today is Monday, 13th of October, 2025,

03:20:48.680 and I'm intending to open the special session of the Knesset

03:20:52.680 in honor of the President of the United States, Mr. Donald J. Trump.

03:21:06.680 Dear Knesset members, I would like to remind you that this is a special session,

03:21:11.680 and therefore there will be no disturbances,

03:21:14.680 and whoever will disturb the session will be expelled from the session.

03:21:20.680 And there will be no warning, and it is allowed to applaud in this session

03:21:26.680 the Honorable Mr. Yitzhak Herzog and his wife, Michal.

03:21:36.680 The Honorary Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his spouse, Sarah.

03:21:48.680 Thank you.

03:22:00.680 Thank you.

03:22:30.680 Opposition, Mr. Lapid and his wife, Leahy, ministers and Knesset members.

03:23:00.680 Thank you.

03:23:12.680 Thank you.

Bannon's War Room - October 13, 2025

WarRoom Special Coverage： Trump’s Mission To Israel

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