Based Camp - January 03, 2025


2025 Killer Car Attacks: What They Signal About Our Future


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56 minutes

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181.45212

Word Count

10,199

Sentence Count

3

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, we discuss the recent terrorist attacks in the United States and the possibility that they are linked to a terrorist plot by ex-officials in the U.S. military. We discuss the role of ex-military personnel in counter-espionage and counter-terrorism, and the potential link between them.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hello simone i am going to in this episode be going over the two recent terrorist attacks
00:00:07.760 within the united states i will be arguing i think very compellingly that they are
00:00:13.200 a linked terrorist plot both isis potentially yeah so it might have been one was isis and the
00:00:20.180 other was like an anti-trump anti-elon guy and they just got on together and decided to link them
00:00:25.020 so just for evidence they were both soldiers at fort bragg no tax happened within three hours of
00:00:32.180 each other what taxed use the turo app to rent the cars what okay that's like a coincidence to you
00:00:41.740 it's a little
00:00:42.480 they're they're the red yarn connecting these two attacks on our board of conspiracies
00:00:51.680 is very thick it's very no i i think it's implausible like the using the same app turo
00:00:59.380 is not like a mainstream app who uses that doesn't show up on you and i run a travel management
00:01:06.740 business we know the major car rental apps i've never heard of this i've never heard of either
00:01:12.240 yeah so i i and that they're both at the same base and keep in mind this base was states away
00:01:19.340 from where the attacks happened yeah right you know so were they both active it would be extra bad
00:01:26.240 if people in active military are being radicalized by foreign forces really really bad look and we've
00:01:36.020 already received word from people who listen to the podcast for example no who've read our books
00:01:41.340 talking about problems within the u.s military which is sobering and this is from commissioned officers
00:01:46.980 if we're adding this to the existing list of problems which did not include this as an issue
00:01:54.060 that people were hearing from or reporting that is very scary i am very concerned the new orleans
00:02:01.220 muslim one who connected himself to isis was not active the tesla one was active he was a army special
00:02:09.200 forces operation master sergeant a senior enlisted rank in the green berets and he was on approved
00:02:15.240 from his assignment in germany at the time of the incident no okay thank goodness all right i'm
00:02:20.140 taking that off my list of active concerns though of course if ex-military people are being radicalized
00:02:25.640 it's a testament to the extent to which we don't support military and and i don't just mean that in
00:02:31.260 terms of the department of veterans affairs i also mean that in the context of larger society
00:02:36.520 promoting and helping people who are ex-military remember when i worked for that one company we won't
00:02:43.240 mention and i would i was helping them recruit a sales team and some of our best candidates were
00:02:49.920 ex-military and they just got passed over consistently for grads of prestigious universities
00:02:57.020 instead even though these ex-military people were 10 times more competent what makes you feel any better
00:03:02.860 ex-military guys have a huge advantage for government jobs yeah yes of course and then for if you're doing
00:03:08.820 procurement if you start your own business yeah they have some advantages i just i do feel like society
00:03:13.740 broadly could do better for people who serve our country i don't know the government jobs thing is a
00:03:20.200 pretty big one the government needs to like create an argument if they're hiring somebody over a military
00:03:24.700 personnel ex-military personnel that's pretty powerful thing to have under your belt that is i guess if you
00:03:30.360 want to keep working for the government which not everyone does true all right so let's hear about the
00:03:36.140 responses that there's been to this by the way okay elon's is my favorite the gist of what elon said
00:03:41.460 was that making fun of the the person who did it because he said he was an idiot for using a tesla
00:03:47.620 truck because it contained the blast and they're built so strong as an opportunity to advertise his
00:03:52.960 trucks but what what's funny is i read that and i was like oh my god what a ham and then it turns out
00:03:58.340 that the investigators are also saying actually it did contain the blast and if it had been another type
00:04:03.280 of car there would have been other casualties so okay elon i love trump's take here is uh our
00:04:11.040 country is a disaster a laughingstock all over the world this is what happens when you have open
00:04:16.460 borders was weak ineffective and virtually non-existent leadership but then he goes on a
00:04:21.080 rant about how the you know the doj and fbi and democratic states have been investigating him
00:04:28.420 was like false crimes instead of working on real criminals and it's like i mean you know kind of
00:04:33.220 true they also currently believe that there were other people involved in this so other people
00:04:38.560 planted or i'm assuming incendiary or explosive devices around new orleans and planned on detonating
00:04:47.300 them but then chickened out last minute or didn't also a remote control was found inside the car the one in
00:04:54.240 in the new orleans case which it's not clear if it was meant to drive the car or meant to set off
00:04:59.360 explosives but it seems like there was a last minute change of plans or something because the
00:05:04.440 other devices didn't go off and that one wasn't used remotely also here is a quote we do not believe
00:05:10.480 that jabbar was solely responsible in quote said the assistant special agent to the fbi new orleans field
00:05:16.940 office we're aggressively running down every lead including those of his known associates
00:05:22.720 note a piece by the new york times this morning has gone back on this claim arguing that he did act
00:05:28.900 alone yikes oh gosh so there are other people at large who have been involved in this and i mean
00:05:37.600 collectively across these two incidents more than 20 people are dead i mean this is not
00:05:43.200 oh okay wow yikes so this is why we don't go outside okay this is why we have a matthew
00:05:53.800 livensberger or something so this was the guy who did the attack on trump tower oh this this is the
00:06:01.560 elon tweet i found it the evil knuckleheads picked the wrong vehicle for a terrorist attack
00:06:05.880 cyber truck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upwards
00:06:10.080 so anyway he set off the car in in front of a trump establishment specifically the trump
00:06:18.300 international hotel in las vegas boulevard i don't think that there's any hiding that this was an attack
00:06:24.580 directed at trump and elon quick note here other new information it appears that he had shot himself
00:06:30.740 before the car exploded and with the other attack a ford car was used which to me indicates he's
00:06:36.920 trying to attack like american manufacturing symbols of america he had an isis flag in in the back of the
00:06:42.380 car this was in the louisiana one he had been a muslim most of his life but was raised a christian
00:06:47.180 and he did a video saying that he was doing it for isis right before the attack so with that guy we
00:06:54.120 know his motivation was isis and radicalization was the other guy we don't know we do know that a
00:07:03.440 person that he was married to because like another weird thing about these guys is there's no social
00:07:08.140 media footprint or like nothing we can find but we can find we can find sarah lindsberger so this would
00:07:15.280 be his his wife or maybe ex-wife had an active social media account prior to 2016 where at one point
00:07:23.160 she did post in response to trump like an anti-trump meme she said i follow his twitter just
00:07:31.740 to get my morning motivation to kill someone or maybe just motivation to lift heavy now a lot of
00:07:36.880 people are stopping after the kill someone i'm wondering if i should replace my roto rousey
00:07:42.860 lewin and alley posters with trump in my basement so you know it's an off-caller joke that comes off
00:07:50.200 really bad after this just to note there is some random person with tangential connections to this
00:07:55.240 guy going around telling newspapers he was a pro trump guy that seems insanely unlikely given
00:08:00.280 everything else we know but i just wanted to include that here for fullness but i don't know basically what
00:08:06.280 we know is he was surrounded by anti-trumpers in the first election cycle but i mean so was jd vance
00:08:13.440 so you know that didn't radicalize him so yeah i i'm surprised by that and i'll also post pictures
00:08:23.060 of this guy he looks like a normal guy actually this map here shows the over thousand mile route
00:08:31.360 he had to drive to get to the location from where he started to create this attack this to me is part
00:08:38.340 of what lends credence to these two attacks being connected that they happened within three hours of
00:08:43.900 each other and yet both people had to drive so far to uh do them the other thing i'd note here is we
00:08:50.760 now also know that this guy was very pro ukraine and was trying to help people in minor ways uh not
00:08:58.020 like a big operation or anything like that get active within the ukraine military now let's go to the
00:09:04.240 new orleans attack something that you pointed out to me i thought was really interesting is there
00:09:07.520 were supposed to be barricades and there had been barricades in place to prevent somebody from doing
00:09:11.360 this but the barricades were in the process of being replaced in preparation for hosting the super
00:09:16.040 bowl so they were removed for a short period which allowed the attack to happen and he ended up killing
00:09:21.700 a number of people in this he had rented a ford f lightning and there was an isis flag found tied to
00:09:29.200 the truck's trailer hitch which is an interesting place to put it why not put it in the truck why not
00:09:34.060 yeah like it nicely displayed in a window seems a little disrespectful but maybe it was so because
00:09:41.900 if like a cop saw you driving around with an isis flag in your back window you might get you know
00:09:46.680 pulled over it was meant to be found afterwards oh perhaps could it be though that this isis
00:09:53.580 association stuff is just a misdirection
00:09:56.320 i mean the guy was muslim if i was a muslim and i wasn't isis or a radicalized muslim the last thing
00:10:05.880 i would want to do is call that connection between muslims and isis
00:10:09.960 yes and no in our iran episode there were a lot of people who said that they were shia for example and
00:10:22.300 they're like yeah and i don't believe in god or anything like i don't practice my religion
00:10:26.200 and i could imagine in some kind of
00:10:29.340 other effort to
00:10:32.240 cause terror or destabilize i mean
00:10:35.920 the most likely explanation of course is that this is isis
00:10:39.720 associated because they said it's isis associated and that's fine
00:10:43.400 i don't think that i don't think it is isis associated
00:10:45.940 okay well then
00:10:46.800 i think it's isis inspired not associated
00:10:49.480 inspired sorry inspired isis
00:10:51.100 no no it's a big difference i don't think they had
00:10:53.060 no no no yes yes yes isis did not organize this
00:10:55.780 but i mean anyway like if i were trying to
00:10:58.420 organize something like that i might say it's isis inspired when instead i was doing something else but i
00:11:03.340 i guess it doesn't really matter
00:11:05.140 note here that this guy was a muslim convert who was raised christian which further
00:11:10.260 makes simone's position unlikely
00:11:12.640 i mean so i mean because i'm trying to figure out like to what extent is this just
00:11:17.400 people losing their minds and increasingly
00:11:20.700 driving cars into christmas markets and people celebrating the new year
00:11:25.080 in new orleans and people having fun in las vegas
00:11:28.720 or
00:11:29.560 are there
00:11:31.400 people who are trying to
00:11:34.820 send messages from a more centralized authority
00:11:38.960 i'm assuming not i'm assuming this is grassroots that this is more
00:11:42.560 i mean whether it's something that people rally around like the united health care
00:11:46.440 shooting or things that people really hate like these
00:11:49.180 these acts of terror
00:11:50.860 is this just the new grassroots people taking
00:11:55.700 action into their own hand world that we live in
00:11:58.820 well so i think that
00:12:01.820 a lot of people feel that the system is unresponsive
00:12:06.720 and they have been told the system is unresponsive to them
00:12:10.080 that their votes don't matter i mean that's why you have a democracy so you
00:12:13.660 don't need to go out and do things like this
00:12:15.760 to affect political change but if you don't feel that your votes matter if you
00:12:19.980 don't feel that the legal system is protecting you
00:12:22.700 if you don't feel that's when things like this become
00:12:25.960 in some people's minds mandated
00:12:28.540 gosh okay i feel like on a societal level
00:12:33.400 society is being trained to fail the marshmallow test i'm not sure if you were
00:12:38.220 familiar with some follow-up research done on the marshmallow test
00:12:41.640 no um with for context the marshmallow test is
00:12:45.460 there are lots of really cute videos of this online
00:12:47.880 where researchers put kids in rooms with marshmallows and say
00:12:52.060 i i've got to go do something really quick i'll be right back but if you don't eat
00:12:56.320 that marshmallow i'll give you two when i come back
00:12:58.680 and so the kids are like this is you know to measure their ability to
00:13:01.960 delay gratification in an effort for a bigger reward and it's supposed to
00:13:05.860 correlate with all these better outcomes later in life and of course the videos
00:13:09.040 are cute because kids are like doing everything they can to not eat the
00:13:11.700 marshmallows or like eat part of the marshmallows but conceal it because they
00:13:14.880 can't not eat the marshmallow very cute but
00:13:17.760 i think some research some follow-up research on this found that a lot of the
00:13:21.900 kids who were failing the marshmallow test and just eating the marshmallow
00:13:24.580 came from environments in which they've been systematically disappointed by
00:13:29.100 adults it wasn't that they had poor impulse control
00:13:31.520 it's that they didn't trust the society they lived in they didn't trust that if
00:13:35.780 someone said i will give you two marshmallows
00:13:37.580 that they're going to get two marshmallows and i feel like maybe we're kind of
00:13:41.180 getting to that point in society where society has promised us marshmallows that
00:13:44.640 if you go to college and you get the student debt you're going to get a job and
00:13:48.100 you're going to be okay and you know if if you are nice to women and you treat
00:13:52.580 them with respect you're going to end up with the wife and kids in the end and
00:13:56.180 just sort of collectively on all fronts you know from a social
00:13:58.840 standpoint from an economic standpoint even from a political standpoint we are
00:14:03.100 being lied to and then what happens when society is trained that they're not
00:14:08.380 going to get two marshmallows if they don't eat the marshmallow they're always
00:14:11.140 going to eat the marshmallow and that's not just in the form of acts of terror
00:14:14.440 or taking law into their own hands but it's in in the form of not saving money
00:14:18.120 anymore in the form of not trying to delay any sort of gratification or or hard
00:14:25.040 work in in favor of the future because we can't trust the future anymore and
00:14:28.360 that's that's scary so i agree with you to an extent but i think that the the
00:14:34.380 bigger thing here is that democrats so i was watching a video today by mark hamill
00:14:37.900 you know the guy who played luke sky oh yeah okay it was like that mark hamill
00:14:41.540 what does he he's gone off the deep it was funny it only had like 800 views or
00:14:45.100 something and it had him and gavin newsom in it um yes it was like gavin newsom was
00:14:51.160 with him or he just included a clip of him
00:14:53.500 no it was four people talking and two of them were mark hamill and gavin newsom and
00:14:58.340 it had under a thousand views yeah the guy on this like anyway okay wild but nobody cares what
00:15:04.920 these people have to say anymore but the point being and this was on youtube like maybe it had
00:15:08.000 a big audience somewhere else but on youtube it was like nobody yeah maybe all on tiktok or
00:15:11.520 something yeah but anyway well no it was like a long form video but anyway he was going on about
00:15:16.540 how we're living under a fascist dictatorship now basically and a lot of people are saying stuff like
00:15:21.780 this where they are saying that they really believe remember when i said like what this
00:15:27.080 election cycle basically boiled down to was the core democratic argument was based on a fictional
00:15:32.980 reality that we don't live in a reality where like trump was gonna take away abortion rights for
00:15:39.540 everyone and that women were gonna be locked up and and and africans were gonna be made slaves again
00:15:45.360 and like right yeah we're gonna like go to the breeding pens and and like i point out but they
00:15:50.620 really believe this distorted reality yeah they really believe that these people are like a
00:15:57.660 totalitarian takeover of the united states and this creates an issue because then they believe that they
00:16:03.380 have a moral mandate to act on that a lot of this is really uh parallel to our thoughts on luigi
00:16:10.060 man gioni which by the way i i love that this channel like we've made so many right calls on this
00:16:16.080 channel in terms of like i was like no this is not going to turn out to be the wife everyone thought it
00:16:20.380 was the wife at that time i was like it's going to turn out to be a random person who was dealing
00:16:24.180 with this and saw themselves as a hero and i i think i even also said that it gave off was it at
00:16:29.380 least we had said this privately that it gave off andover vibes oh my gosh you did say that
00:16:35.080 i don't know if that was on the podcast i think you might have just might not have been on the
00:16:38.260 podcast yeah but he wasn't actually an andover student but it was very he was like a sort of elite
00:16:43.860 new jersey private school kind of yeah yeah yeah and then was even with crypto like we might have
00:16:48.540 been wrong about saying to sell it but we were about three months early to the quantum computing
00:16:52.360 fund that has been uh doing the rounds now so at least you get ideas and with this one right here
00:16:57.820 i've said these two attacks are connected and the mainstream media right now the narrative is they're
00:17:01.560 not connected so we'll see we'll see if i can continue to to to keep hitting these but with
00:17:06.560 luigi mangi to get back to this i've been like look this guy and we point out in that video
00:17:11.880 he had changed the company's policy so they were approving dramatically fewer uh health insurance
00:17:18.600 claims yeah in a way that the company knew that they were not approving claims that they should
00:17:23.580 have been approving by the own internal reporting 90 of the approvals that were denied by the ai
00:17:28.700 should not have been disapproved and yet they continue to use it despite lawsuits so this was a
00:17:34.820 united health care to continue to have a huge false positive rate on rejections because they
00:17:42.320 knew that most people weren't going to contest it and ultimately that would save the money
00:17:45.460 well they weren't doing their job that they they also like even when people did contest it they just
00:17:50.620 put it back into the system often so you had a system that we know from the data was killing people
00:17:56.500 like the actively in the process of leading to people's deaths and people are like well not giving
00:18:01.140 somebody money when they're whether you have a life you know risking disease that's not murdering
00:18:06.540 them and i was like it is if they have been giving you money for the past 10 years under a legal
00:18:12.080 contract that says you will give them the money back when they need it and they need it they have
00:18:18.380 fulfilled the legal contract but you have a big company and you know the government won't do anything
00:18:22.260 about it individuals as somebody pointed out in the comment section of that every every genocide in
00:18:28.100 history or almost every genocide in history has been done legally you need to ask yourself you know
00:18:32.080 when do you say yes well the murderer is doing it legally but i know the court system won't do
00:18:38.260 anything about this and we know the court system wasn't going to do anything about this because many
00:18:41.860 people had tried to get the court system to do something about this so i don't think that we should
00:18:46.000 live in a world where people can go and murder you know i love people are like what this is anti-ceo and i'm
00:18:52.360 like that's the most insane thing ever that's like me saying epstein you know got what was coming to
00:18:57.680 him is anti-jewish it's like what i am against mass murderers i don't care if they're ceos or not ceos
00:19:06.100 or you know i i think that we should be doing something against ongoing mass murderers who say
00:19:12.440 i am going to continue to do this mass murder and who you know it's that's what i was against
00:19:19.100 him being a ceo had nothing to do with it in my book and i think that if we enter a society where
00:19:24.480 we say well yeah but if the person is a rich ceo then mass murder is okay that's when people begin
00:19:30.200 to build justification around killing ceos because you live in a society where all the other rich
00:19:35.240 people are like oh my god he killed a rich person i mean they have gotten so used to the idea that
00:19:41.880 different laws apply to them than anyone else and they can for example go to epstein's island has
00:19:46.900 anyone who's gone to epstein island faced repercussions for what they were doing does
00:19:51.600 anyone really expect a celebrity to be arrested over the diddy party controversy despite what was
00:19:57.480 going on at those parties despite that we know the individuals who were at them no okay so it doesn't
00:20:03.960 it doesn't matter if you have over a certain level of income the horror from the luigi mangioni case
00:20:08.820 comes not from the fact that he broke the law or that he killed someone in new york after all how many
00:20:14.260 random people are killed in new york every day people don't freak out the horror comes from the
00:20:18.640 fact that somebody who was thought of as in a protected class faced repercussions for their
00:20:24.960 actions the only through lines between the luigi mangioni case and these cases are that somebody
00:20:32.040 broke the law to try to achieve their ends and yet if i've been pointing out if you place a blanket
00:20:40.120 moral prohibition upon any action that breaks the law well then you've got a big problem because
00:20:46.560 that is how fascist dictatorships rise up that's how genocides happen we have just normalized that
00:20:52.620 of the society and it horrifies me that people could draw any level of connection between what luigi
00:20:58.500 mangioni did and what these guys did in that these guys intended to kill innocent people to scare
00:21:07.240 like society at large whereas luigi mangioni was very intentional it appears that he even shot the
00:21:15.040 guy in the leg first to make sure that he could see his face so that he could confirm that he wasn't
00:21:20.100 accidentally killing the wrong person and we have already seen positive effects from his actions
00:21:26.880 specifically some of our followers who had kids who needed uh medication that was planned to be made
00:21:33.540 obsolete by actually united healthcare uh immediately after the coverage of it was planned to be made
00:21:39.020 obsolete immediately after the shooting or within a few weeks of the shooting they got notification
00:21:44.180 that the obsolesion that was planned had been canceled and we've heard reports of all sorts of people
00:21:49.460 saying that previously either planned to be canceled coverage areas or rollbacks with ai reviews of plans
00:21:58.520 and stuff like that no longer being used so we're at a point now where luigi mangioni's actions have
00:22:04.400 pretty uncontroversially already saved a number of lives and i need to ask why were those lives less
00:22:11.300 important than the life that he took when this argument of oh well he was just doing what anyone
00:22:17.020 else in the industry was doing he was not it was it was more than double the industry standard and it had
00:22:23.880 increased under his reign and he knew that 90 of the claims that they were denying contractually he
00:22:29.840 was supposed to be upholding this had already been reviewed this is like well known in the company
00:22:33.660 because of the ai software that they were using people desperately want to live in a world that's
00:22:38.040 morally easy a world where well there's people who follow the law and there's people who break the law
00:22:44.240 and that world can exist when you have just laws that are equally applied but unfortunately that's not
00:22:51.740 the world we live in whose fault is that well you could say it's the fault of society you could say
00:22:57.620 it's the fault of the people not equally applying the law you could say it's the fault of bad laws
00:23:02.300 existing whatever the case being we just do not live in that world and when you retreat into the shell
00:23:09.540 of lawbreakers and non-lawbreakers murderers and non-murderers then you end up being one of those
00:23:16.640 people who works at a concentration camp or helps return the slave that's trying to run away in every
00:23:24.640 generation there is a plurality of the population that attempts to sit snug under the covers of
00:23:31.020 society has finally figured out morality and the cultural norms within our society are the moral nexus
00:23:38.560 of reality and yet we look back at all of those times and see horrors that were carried out
00:23:44.120 people want to believe that nothing that they're doing today could be seen as the moral equivalent
00:23:51.120 of returning the escaping slave and yet history tells us that there are almost certainly a number
00:23:57.560 of industries and a number of actions that are happening in our society today that people in the
00:24:04.180 future will look back upon as the moral equivalent of returning the escaping slave because well it's the
00:24:10.080 law and didn't this person steal somebody else's property but it's like yeah but you have a moral
00:24:15.740 responsibility to build a moral system for yourself and not just rely on the ones that are given to you
00:24:22.360 by society and you have a moral responsibility to have an accurate understanding of what's actually
00:24:26.800 happening in society that means he could because it wasn't about the richness it wasn't about the
00:24:32.140 money it wasn't about the ceo it was about the mass murder but luigi mangioni when you talk about this
00:24:37.740 like learned helplessness he had this moment in japan that he talked about with somebody who knew
00:24:41.560 him that was apparently like life-changing for him where he went to japan and he said that everyone
00:24:47.600 there was an npc there was this moment where somebody was having a seizure we went to the cops to try to
00:24:52.500 get them to address the seizure and even when there were no cars on the streets they stopped at every
00:24:56.840 light on the way to the person and he's like why are you following this law when it's putting other
00:25:02.100 people's lives at risk and it's not dealing with an emergency and that frustration he had in that
00:25:08.780 moment is emblematic of the frustration he had in the moment you know likely leading to the the the
00:25:16.040 assassination on his part and i think that these sorts of individuals they think that they will be
00:25:24.240 lauded for this but look i mean these people are not and i and you see they're not like looking to
00:25:29.920 luigioni and people are going to be trying to draw parallels here but they're looking to isis because
00:25:34.320 the type of people who cheer when you kill an innocent person which both of these people intended
00:25:39.120 on doing the only people who cheer for that are terrorists you know like people in terrorist
00:25:44.220 countries and they will cheer for this you know like isis has like magazines and stuff like that that
00:25:48.100 they put out to try to laud these sorts of actions in other individuals and so i think there's a
00:25:53.920 similar mindset but it's a you know how does sort of my moral compass work and it is a problem and i do
00:25:59.560 not think that we as a society are grappling with it enough how big of a problem it is that democrats
00:26:04.440 face no repercussions for saying stuff like we're living in a fascist dictatorship that language is
00:26:10.360 what leads to this it's what leads to the trump assassination attempts and that we should be
00:26:15.660 treating people who say that the same way we treat people who say things like the n-word and yet we as a
00:26:21.900 society refuse to hold them accountable for that yet and i think that that's something that we should
00:26:27.340 press to change when people are painting this in a sane and inaccurate view of our reality that they
00:26:36.100 are mocked for it but that they also face repercussions for it well in general i really like the idea of
00:26:45.100 aggressively de-incentivizing polarization and dehumanization of the other side the more that we can return
00:26:54.940 to an era of healthy debate and just a shared assumption that we're all human with good
00:27:02.760 intentions i disagree with it really yes i think that your action can lead to us not fully seeing
00:27:11.040 how monstrous the other side has become oh like to your point there has never been a genocide
00:27:16.340 meaningfully that that is that has not been fully legal when it happened that is to say i mean right now
00:27:23.020 you could argue by some numbers that we in the united states are undergoing an autistic genocide
00:27:28.480 the systematic sterilization of autistic children oh like through yeah monoculture okay it is wild to me
00:27:40.480 that you know as somebody who has autistic children i have to be worried every time i send them to school
00:27:47.020 that a doctor may convince them to sterilize themselves and lie to me about this that a doctor
00:27:54.680 that is paid for by the school or that the school will have people in it who are searching saying
00:28:00.060 is this child a good psychological profile for sterilization and we as a society know this we know
00:28:06.980 that this is mostly targeting autistic kids and i just sometimes you can normalize some to something
00:28:12.880 as a society and not understand how absolutely horrifying and messed up it is so just try to
00:28:18.140 step outside of what you know about society right now and internalize that this statement is just
00:28:24.020 become an accurate and normal thing in our society because i have autistic children i have to worry
00:28:31.280 that the state will attempt to sterilize them if i send them to public school and if you're like oh well
00:28:38.060 this is a real medical thing and i'm like well then why doesn't it exist to literally anywhere else on
00:28:43.880 earth or at any other time or in any other culture in human history and if you want to see a breakdown
00:28:49.760 on the claims that this has existed in other cultures just go see uh the video we did on trans
00:28:55.440 stuff uh last week yes gender non-conformity exists in other places on earth but this obsession
00:29:01.960 was being seen as another gender that does not exist yes different gender categorizations exist
00:29:08.600 but an obsession with them and a mandate for medical transition and sterilization of children
00:29:15.080 no that doesn't exist anywhere look i don't give a shit about a society that accepts that some boys
00:29:20.580 want to wear dresses what i do care about is now we live in a society where it is normalized
00:29:26.220 to sterilize that boy who likes to wear dresses so why why why do we need to act like this is some
00:29:33.600 some moral mandate that this is carried out and you can watch our other videos on this i mean the
00:29:38.740 evidence is overwhelming at this point and fortunately the pendulum is swinging back in the
00:29:43.840 other direction but that the pendulum is swinging back makes this even more horrifying that now
00:29:49.280 most intellectual people agree that this shouldn't be happening most people who have actually read the
00:29:54.360 studies agree that this shouldn't be happening and yet the state is still doing it so what i'm saying
00:29:59.360 is is is is if you can't call this stuff out you know this is this is an issue what i'm saying we
00:30:05.860 should not do okay is make up completely fictional realities like the republicans are gonna you know
00:30:14.200 take away women's rights to own property or like like they're like they're systematically sterilizing all
00:30:23.960 autistic people i mean no because we are systematically sterilizing people who are disproportionately autistic
00:30:30.160 and that implies what what your not real fantasy world there implies is that there is a concerted
00:30:36.640 intentional effort to do so when it is not it is it is a a mindless thoughtless thought virus that
00:30:44.040 is predicated on the promise of removing in the moment suffering elevating victimhood culture
00:30:49.800 and making gender an identity which is the stupidest thing in the world but it happened
00:30:54.780 and that's not a concerted organized effort and that means that the people who are behind this who
00:31:00.560 are for example trying to still support youth gender medicine are not like yes i shall end the autists
00:31:07.320 once and for all which is exactly what your statement implied which is exactly violating the role
00:31:11.940 you're trying to set i'm a consequentialist the outcomes are the same and the point i'm making here
00:31:18.120 is we live in a world where democrats just make up insane things and they state them as if they are
00:31:27.400 what is happening in this reality and they are functionally and obviously not and it leaves their
00:31:34.020 definition of whatever dystopian state that may be the case for them especially from their cultural
00:31:40.080 viewpoint oh no victimhood culture isn't going to be supported anymore dei is not going to be supported
00:31:45.180 anymore like i'm entering dystopia for them they are like they're not lying by their perspective or
00:31:52.440 worldview well i'm against what they're doing but i'm also against the idea of humanizing the other side
00:31:58.060 ever is a fantasy and we need to like really be calling out this fantasy much more aggressively
00:32:06.040 instead of saying both sides need to be humanized we need to recognize that when you join a cult
00:32:12.340 that breeds this interpretation of reality where everyone slightly right a center is literally a
00:32:19.180 nazi and and note here i'm not saying all democrats are in this group i'm saying there is a group of
00:32:23.780 democrats in this group okay you need to say oh what would these people do to nazis oh they think
00:32:29.760 that's okay to do to over 50 percent of the u.s population you know trump won the popular vote
00:32:34.260 these people are a dangerous and radicalized faction that is a genuine and ever-present danger
00:32:41.800 to this country and anywhere they are allowed to spread
00:32:44.240 like we are not saying that you need to
00:32:49.220 like people like how how is this any different i am saying that we need to treat them as dangerous
00:32:54.980 because they have declared i am dangerous and i want to
00:32:58.140 end over half of americans okay or i want to randomly punch in the street over half of americans
00:33:06.860 and i'm here not calling for you know mass murders or anything like that but i'm saying we need to
00:33:12.840 not hide the fact that there is a group in the united states that is a large that is radicalized
00:33:19.880 to that degree and that it is if it makes up all of somebody's social circle going to radicalize them to
00:33:27.280 yes well we can agree that memes that radicalize people are a bad idea no
00:33:39.640 i disagree with that what i said and i will say this again
00:33:44.800 because i will say memes that represented inaccurate understanding of the world or a
00:33:50.260 fantasy or a virtual reality that radicalize people people need to be radicalized when actual
00:33:56.480 nazis take over a country simone people need to be you know as i point out my ancestors in the
00:34:01.960 past would have been thought of as radicals you know they's 15 out of 50 of the founders of the free
00:34:07.740 state of jones were either brothers or or children of my direct ancestors and this was a
00:34:14.380 breakaway state that started during the confederacy that was anti-slavery and they would have been seen
00:34:19.680 as an insane radical cult which is basically what they were called i mean how could you be against
00:34:25.360 slavery you know and you need to be able to this is the thing simone and i really hate this oh both
00:34:32.060 sides need to be seen as human thing oh the mass murdering ceo needs to be seen as human thing the
00:34:37.400 individuals who act no the individuals who say oh this individual shouldn't have been killed because
00:34:43.880 what he was doing was technically legal right to me they are in a way as evil as the progressives who
00:34:53.300 are painting this inaccurate picture of reality because they are saying oh well mass murder is okay
00:34:59.100 when done was in these rules or done was in this system or done by somebody of x class and i think
00:35:06.340 that that's the core thing that we need to get away with is we need to re-enter a society where
00:35:13.500 people have to interpret reality for themselves stop outsourcing this to groups like actually try
00:35:21.700 to look at things are these people actually mass killing people is this disproportionately affecting
00:35:27.400 the autistic population does this appear to be helping the people who are going through the
00:35:32.120 procedures does you know we've done other other episodes on this right you know and the data is
00:35:36.780 just like overwhelming at this point right we need to be able to call this stuff out for what it
00:35:41.480 functionally is and i yes but okay i agree with many parts of this i just think that like some
00:35:48.840 cultures say there's no such thing as bad weather just bad clothing you know you just got to dress up
00:35:54.040 for appropriately for weather i think there's no such thing as bad people just bad incentive systems
00:35:59.700 and bad cultures that make people do bad things i i don't i don't think i mean okay there are some
00:36:06.460 people who are like genetically really screwed up and just want to like torture animals from a very
00:36:10.800 young age and hurt people but yeah if you listen to stories about sociopaths they often seem pretty
00:36:15.180 evil from like a young they're not just sociopaths but the ones who become like serial killers and
00:36:19.060 stuff yeah like the scary ones are the ones who from an early age wanted to i do think some people
00:36:24.680 are born bad people simone uh i'm sorry about that but i okay but but broadly i don't for example
00:36:30.920 think that the united healthcare ceo was one of those drowned puppy as a kid kind of people i think
00:36:37.640 that he's subject to a bad incentive and i will note here that this ceo's policy changes were likely
00:36:45.120 responsible for more deaths on a per month's basis than the most voluminous serial killer in history had
00:36:52.640 ever killed given that 52 million people are covered by united healthcare and that ceo had more than
00:36:58.800 increased the denial rate by double in some of the areas in the short time that he had been ceo
00:37:04.260 in terms of moral responsibility that we need to come back to as a society okay you know we just as
00:37:10.760 much as the people who say that you know he should have been allowed to continue killing people because
00:37:16.540 he was doing it legally and i know most of these individuals and him have this mindset of um if it is
00:37:24.880 acceptable within mainstream society and if it is legal then it must be allowed to continue and we
00:37:31.920 need to call out mainstream society and say mainstream society has fallen to such an extent into such an
00:37:38.420 insane degree of degradation at this point that we now need to develop responsibility for building our
00:37:46.660 own moral architecture even when that moral architecture conflicts with the laws of society
00:37:54.200 and because this responsibility is increasingly important for every american to develop we at the same time
00:38:02.940 need to hold people more responsible when they are peddling completely inaccurate views of reality
00:38:10.380 that are not based on anything really they're they're based on the way they wish the world worked
00:38:17.880 and this is a big deal when you consider this mindset that's becoming so prevalent on the
00:38:23.700 the left which divides the world into different ethnic groups divides the world into these oppressor and
00:38:30.100 oppressed categories the oppressor can do whatever they want to the oppressed it doesn't matter
00:38:34.440 but you know so the oppressed can do whatever they want to the oppressor if you're in oppressor
00:38:38.860 oppressed category but like what modifies you for oppressed category they're basically saying
00:38:43.120 these ethnic groups or these cultural groups are allowed to you know for example gang grape the
00:38:50.360 children of this other group and shouldn't have to face repercussions for it which is like literally
00:38:54.640 something we see being being argued for within like europe where they're you know taking down posts
00:39:00.700 where people are like hey there's a huge problem with like gang grapes right now in our country was in
00:39:05.460 this specific immigrant population and they're like you can't say that they're in a they get to gang
00:39:10.560 grape whenever they want or you know certain people are dragging it's even worse than that actually
00:39:14.640 there there there have been cases in which young girls were in possession of these bad actors these
00:39:21.680 grooming gangs and their parents tried to go and get them and were arrested by the police for example for
00:39:29.560 drunken disorderly conduct and in the end it was that they didn't want to cause racial tensions in the
00:39:34.300 area these are people trying to rescue their own daughters from brutal brutal situations
00:39:40.100 so yeah i i yeah by the way this is the uk yeah this is what we have to this is what our country
00:39:47.260 becomes if you say they you cannot human humanize monsters okay when you when you well i just okay
00:39:55.580 okay so so then what what what practically do we do without going completely crazy in in kind of the
00:40:02.620 same bad direction i'll give you some context when you were describing like oh wouldn't it be great if
00:40:07.460 for example you know people you know when they when they said things are obviously not true we fought
00:40:11.840 back and then i'm like oh yeah twitter like with community notes and then i just thought today
00:40:15.620 cremeu posted something about how people were using community notes to add commentary to a post of his
00:40:23.080 that was not at all accurate they they were kind of misstating and misreading a distribution
00:40:29.620 a multimodal distribution and they were they were basically distorting a true reality that he was
00:40:36.380 sharing so like we can't even even community notes aren't consistently necessarily working which i
00:40:40.760 thought that they were and so that's disturbing like what what do we do that if that doesn't even work
00:40:44.340 how do we i want practical takeaways here practical takeaways is realizing that we have entered into a
00:40:52.140 post-consensus society okay society where individuals and i believe to a large extent rightly believe that
00:41:01.600 they no longer have the ability to influence the government that they no longer have an ability to
00:41:06.340 hold uh individuals accountable for their actions even if they're committing mass murder if they're above
00:41:11.720 a certain you know income level or whatever and that ultimately people are going to need to choose
00:41:19.200 a side as society breaks down and neither side will be non-violent okay but the question is is
00:41:26.300 and this is the thing as things continue to descend either trump can fix it he can restore people's faith
00:41:33.080 in voting he can restore people's faith in in uh the justice system that it won't just randomly like
00:41:40.260 his felony charge is such a joke right you know that it won't just randomly that's so like third world
00:41:47.260 banana republic type stuff that the democrats tried that oh no you didn't properly label your prostitute
00:41:52.840 payments don't you know you have to label them prostitute payments i i won't go into this again
00:41:57.420 because we've gone into it a bunch of times but it's like it was a complete joke and it's absolutely
00:42:01.720 shocking to me that individuals think that they can side with like there's this group out there that
00:42:07.960 still thinks they can side with the quiet status quo and that that is citing with justice ignoring what the
00:42:14.280 ceos are doing but also ignoring what the the extremist democrats are doing and we need to admit
00:42:20.520 now that no the nefarious forces in our society that have gotten out of control and maybe we are
00:42:26.920 seeing a correction maybe trump represents a correction to that and we will see that but i i guess like my
00:42:34.240 real thing is buckle up like you're like what's your actionable takeaway my actionable takeaway is buckle the
00:42:41.040 fuck up because this is gonna potentially get worse especially as we start actually fixing things
00:42:49.400 because what move out of major cities and go outside make sure you're armed to make sure you know you
00:42:56.760 you begin to actually fix things like dei you know people are gonna get existential about this
00:43:03.260 as you begin to actually you know and we're seeing the pushback right like i think that right now
00:43:09.220 the whole uh gender transition and kids thing is totally on the back foot like totally in retreat
00:43:15.260 now yeah but the the individuals who relied on that to supply the next generation of their class
00:43:25.240 because their class isn't reproducing this is now existential for them like the degree to which
00:43:31.320 they are going to be freaking out is i think not fully being interpreted by people and i guess what
00:43:38.840 i'm saying is is we're essentially entering a state of you could almost call it like subdermal war
00:43:47.580 subdermal war it's not as bad as like what's going on in south africa right now but like we are
00:43:54.660 descending into that right now the collapse is beginning and the collapse is going to look like
00:44:00.440 south africa yeah i guess it's just and the individuals who just keep ignoring that the collapse is
00:44:07.840 happening and are like oh no just don't do anything never act never do anything these groups are going
00:44:15.740 to look increasingly out of touch and insane as time goes on they're the individuals who an individual
00:44:23.140 so often do this when they don't need to think about the consequences of what they're actually saying
00:44:26.740 so so often in our prenatalist advocacy when we're like well social security will go bankrupt if
00:44:31.600 you know there's x many people on it for x many taxpayers right like even at the current level it's going to go
00:44:36.740 bankrupt and individuals are like okay well then we just need to end the whole system right and i'm like
00:44:40.460 actually think about you you end social security you end medicare you you know actually think about
00:44:47.520 how many deaths you're talking about there millions like the the scale of suffering that we are talking
00:44:57.160 about but people can just be like oh no this is the mainstream opinion that i'm allowed to have
00:45:01.900 and i'm just like oh well we'll just end this or we'll just do this and they're talking about
00:45:06.320 death on an uncountable scale almost well and you don't have to think through additional
00:45:13.600 ramifications i mean that it's very unlikely that they're going to end social security i i think the
00:45:19.140 more likely thing is just we're just gonna you know money machine go burr is going to be the answer here
00:45:23.940 so massive devaluation of the dollar i mean as the general and i think i'm actually seeing a tipping
00:45:30.920 point as even as we're seeing a lot of retrospective content because it's around the turn of the year
00:45:36.440 you know we're in a new year now people are really starting to normalize to the fact that their
00:45:41.400 their lifestyle is not going to be like what they thought it was going to be growing up that they
00:45:48.460 are not going to have the level of luxury and travel and possessions and housing that they thought
00:45:58.360 they would have and everyone is now adjusting their material expectations downward and i think that
00:46:05.980 that's really the big expectation that we all need to prepare for and it's going to come in lumpy ways
00:46:11.660 and it's going to come in fits and starts but things are going to be more expensive we're going to have
00:46:15.100 fewer things that doesn't mean we're going to be less happy but i do think that's going to happen
00:46:19.780 i also think that untold number of people are going to die because of demographic collapse especially if
00:46:23.400 we don't plan for it well but i don't think that they're going to just end social security no they're
00:46:27.040 just going to make they're just going to massively devalue our currency and everyone's just going to be
00:46:33.040 living in a much poorer way so that we can pretend like we didn't massively screw up social security
00:46:40.960 if that makes sense well no i mean i think you see this degradation in life quality in terms of
00:46:45.920 degradation and personal safety you know and and we're seeing it in these attacks but we're also
00:46:51.620 going to start seeing it when due to dei policy you know you can see our video on america's chernobyl
00:46:56.020 is going to happen you know dei policy around like traffic air control we're going to start seeing
00:47:01.140 well and and in the hiring of pilots and at the engineering of planes i mean i think we've already
00:47:05.540 seen it to some extent with some of our plane engineering firms making bad planes you know
00:47:10.460 this dei leads to less safety but then also the radicalization and the creation of these terrorists
00:47:17.360 leads to less safety um and the left's determination to protect oligarchs leads to less safety as as we
00:47:24.580 we've seen over and over and over again um and we need to uh i think the the way honestly if people
00:47:32.840 are like how do you protect ceos go after the oligarchs with our legal system that are killing
00:47:37.460 people that's the way that you make people feel they don't need to do this we need a system that
00:47:44.260 actually functions and people feel is actually there to protect them because if we don't have
00:47:49.480 that system not only will society begin to fall apart but there is a certain point in society where
00:47:55.960 society is acting so evilly that you have a an obligation to choose a side as things fall apart
00:48:03.580 and act
00:48:04.780 well yay oh great great transition speaking of choosing a side and building a network of people
00:48:17.580 that you can trust that kind of gives you hope for the future because there actually is a lot of hope
00:48:22.120 for the future and there is a winning side and it's the pronatalists you should come hang out with
00:48:28.120 us this march in austin at natal con you can still register there's still there's still some room
00:48:33.480 actually it's starting to fill up so now would be a good time if you plan on registering you can get a
00:48:37.960 10 discount by entering the code the code collins at discount it's gonna be it's gonna be really
00:48:45.080 awesome so please come rebuild your hope for the future with us and other people you know that's
00:48:53.080 where it would be in austin yeah with a bunch of other autists and and non-autists and religious
00:48:58.080 people and not religious people and tech people and not tech people come on down friends last year
00:49:02.760 this year by the way the number of death threats we got about last year's conference they had this
00:49:06.640 giant security detail i think they spent like half the money of the conference on the security detail
00:49:10.200 yeah they looked really cool so it made me feel like look at me right we have a conference with
00:49:15.960 security detail look at this look at that you know kevin who's running all this kevin dolan
00:49:20.540 awesome person he's gonna do a great job with this anyway yeah what was always so funny is the
00:49:26.860 security details at like right right wing events because they're always like total bros they're always
00:49:32.160 like tied to like local militias and stuff and because they're the only people you can trust you know
00:49:36.520 and so you always get these really bro-y guys who are very what's the movement that they pretend is
00:49:42.820 racist proud boys and stuff like that you know which i always find hilarious if you actually meet
00:49:48.240 them and you're like you know what are they you know some sort of asset person you're like oh wait
00:49:52.160 what why why are there so many black people in this racist group when you're like wait are they
00:49:56.940 are they not a racist group was i lied to about this it's like yeah a little bit anyway i love you to
00:50:02.760 death simone this is i had no idea that our channel was going to become a random person was killed or
00:50:08.380 assassinated channel yeah that that that is like one of our mainstream like hot button video types
00:50:12.940 well okay and i'd love actually to see what people say in the comments because i i'm interested to know
00:50:18.740 i mean i kind of get the impression that a lot of people like to watch this podcast because we can help
00:50:23.140 to talk through events that are happening in the news in the world with people like we're your friends
00:50:30.060 because we are your friends like we're sort of share a culture broadly speaking on this podcast
00:50:35.000 with our viewers and just to hear our analysis of it and there are lots of youtube channels like this
00:50:39.260 and we're just maybe one of them or maybe that's not why you're here so you know if you don't mind
00:50:43.620 leaving a comment telling us why you like to watch the podcast is it like learning something new is it
00:50:49.060 is it is it understanding the news or getting some context and annotation on the news is it something
00:50:54.700 else because i would like to know here's what i want to believe i want to believe that they're here
00:51:00.700 for new ideas some of the times but also when big events happen in the news nobody else really covers
00:51:06.680 them thoroughly or gives accurate predictions on them and that if we can be a channel that can give
00:51:12.320 more accurate predictions on what's going to turn out to be true than mainstream media and if we can turn
00:51:17.340 out to be the a channel that shit i'll be right back and if we can turn out to be a channel that uh in
00:51:22.220 addition to giving more accurate predictions also gives more thorough coverage covering the angle
00:51:26.760 that you might not have heard you know that humanity survives digital versions of us will almost
00:51:33.160 certainly exist thank goodness she was just saying that she can't wait to be fully digital no what i
00:51:37.920 just mean is because we've done this podcast and there is just such an absolutely large volume of
00:51:45.000 recordings of us in fairly similar positions it would be incredibly easy to clone us with ai copies
00:51:51.720 when the technology gets a bit better that would be quite believable as us as you know and and at
00:51:59.420 least as us on camera when you could say well just because it could exist why do you assume it will
00:52:04.700 exist and i would say well because we have lots of kids and our kids i mean hopefully they're part of
00:52:10.700 the ideology and end up having at least some of them end up having lots of kids as well so i would
00:52:15.760 want to have an ai avatar of like my great-great-grandfather or something like name i wish i could talk with
00:52:21.120 them yeah like why would they not want that i'm not saying that like we'll be living on permanently
00:52:26.640 but we will at least be accessible as intelligences which is kind of crazy to think about yeah it is
00:52:33.940 i like it we already know we don't we're not gonna die well that's like google goes down or humanity
00:52:39.620 dies so we've got to save humanity right and people can be like oh you won't be conscious entities then
00:52:44.320 and watch our video we don't really think sentience exists it's mostly an illusion based on the way our
00:52:48.820 brain compresses information and there's a lot of evidence for this but anyway anyway let's get into
00:52:58.260 this i will oh by the way simone i cannot believe 153 pounds look at you mr spelt i wasn't even trying
00:53:07.340 that's just naltrexone isn't that amazing yeah yeah i i'm impressed by naltrexone as a diet suppressor
00:53:17.780 as well i think that you eat fewer snack foods in general while on it and would love to compare
00:53:25.240 naltrexone consumption to ozempic and other semaglutide injections because it's so much
00:53:31.060 easier to take naltrexone pills they're way less expensive than semaglutide injections
00:53:35.440 and this side effect seems significantly less dire
00:53:39.220 it reduces social media consumption it reduces oh yeah yeah so all of your other addictive behavior
00:53:47.340 goes down your gambling addiction goes down in a much more significant way than people have reported
00:53:52.440 on semaglutide plus you don't have the nausea the stomach discomfort some people get that with
00:53:58.820 naltrexone so they do yeah i just don't but if you have an adverse reaction to semaglutide you could
00:54:06.440 try naltrexone but anyway give you an idea of how crazy that is that that weight i remember so
00:54:13.320 historically i would start going on diets at 100 19 100 like 85 or top 80s like if it got to like 187 or
00:54:20.600 something i'd be like oh i need to go on a diet and i would stop my diets if i could get down
00:54:25.880 to below 175 like you know 171 or 172 i would have seen as an incredibly low weight for myself
00:54:33.380 and i just randomly measured the other day and it's at 153 and i'm like what the fuck right except
00:54:40.180 here's the problem that you're not anticipating here the people in the comments are going to chime
00:54:44.720 in saying malcolm you've just lost huge amounts of muscle mass you weigh less because you don't have
00:54:50.700 any muscle you need to start working out and lifting weights hey the the comments that they're
00:54:56.440 trying to convince me and they in the forums to get on steroids and on discord yeah yeah well you can
00:55:02.440 ask our concierge doctor about that you're we'll see they're like hey more people will listen to you
00:55:07.560 you know yes you may see it as a pointless indulgence in a sign of vanity but more people will listen to
00:55:12.800 you and if you believe in functionality you have to do it i'm like compelling argument guys
00:55:16.500 i just i one i don't want to deal with the roid rage two i think you also have to work out to
00:55:23.040 really get meaningful results and i don't think that you want to do that i would love that it's so
00:55:29.620 indulgent anyway it'd be great but we we lift our kids a lot you saw my arm muscle
00:55:34.840 yeah you're ridiculous all right all right all right all right i'll get started here yeah all right
00:55:41.840 why are you why are you putting the contour back in the boat
00:55:47.280 i thought you liked mr bear octavian
00:56:01.020 doesn't mr bear have a kid and a life
00:56:08.280 oh
00:56:10.460 you