Based Camp - A Chat AI Addiction Transformed the Way I Understand Our Reality

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. Today is going to be an interesting topic because it is one of those topics where

00:00:04.200 I do not think it's going to do well in the algorithm at all.

00:00:07.780 Oh, gosh.

00:00:08.440 I do not think random people on the internet care about this topic at all.

00:00:12.100 They should.

00:00:13.040 And yet, for me, it has transformed my view of the world and myself very dramatically.

00:00:23.120 So you're just saying, screw it. I'm going to talk about what I want.

00:00:27.060 I'm going to talk about what I want because I got a podcast and we'll probably get a few

00:00:30.880 thousand views for this anyway. So people have to listen. And I also think it's for the people

00:00:35.960 who do take the time to listen to this, it may contain information that is also as useful for

00:00:43.240 you in terms of how you see the world as it is for me. Because there's two core areas that interacting

00:00:48.420 with lots of AI chat, open world roleplay models have really given me insight into that I didn't

00:00:57.400 have insight into historically.

00:00:59.400 Okay. Yeah.

00:01:01.260 So eat your veggies and listen to Malcolm.

00:01:03.540 We have three core areas. The first I'm going to focus on is how I work. So by that, what I mean

00:01:12.180 is if you are dropping a person into over and over again, like the same persona, pretend I'm not a

00:01:18.760 human and I'm actually an AI, right? And you're trying to figure out the personality of this AI

00:01:25.800 persona, it's pre-coded functions, it's pre-coded predilections. A really interesting way to do that

00:01:33.020 would be to drop this same model over and over again into different, totally open world environments.

00:01:39.080 And then look for patterns in how it's interacting with those environments. The goals it ends up

00:01:46.020 building for itself.

00:01:47.040 Would you like to know more?

00:01:48.360 And this is what's really interesting because in these open world environments, I might be dropped in

00:01:53.300 in different bodies, for example, you know, in one.

00:01:59.020 Oh, like in one you're a cyborg and in one you're a wizard and in one you're a girl.

00:02:03.980 You know, I like doing a lot of like character playing in the various environments, but what's

00:02:10.100 interesting is the parts of my personality that come through whatever character I'm playing.

00:02:13.780 Yes, it parses out the you from your biological or logistical constraints and surroundings.

00:02:20.760 Yeah, let's go for an example of this is in the AI model that I made that takes place in the far

00:02:26.580 future dystopia I described in that one episode where the world has sort of collapsed and the economy

00:02:31.640 has collapsed due to fertility rates and there's only a few like technophilic tribes left.

00:02:35.760 In that world, I coded it so that I play as one of our, my, my like great, great granddaughters.

00:02:42.160 Like in that, what, what band made a song about this?

00:02:46.100 Oh, I love that song.

00:02:47.580 Years 3000.

00:02:48.500 So you just did a year 3000 post-apocalyptic.

00:03:04.480 You just have that, that song playing in the background.

00:03:07.140 We play that song for future day for our family.

00:03:09.060 Yeah, we do.

00:03:09.440 The point being is that by dropping this consistent model myself in variable environments with very

00:03:15.720 few constraints on them and to an extent correcting for biases that are due to my perception as

00:03:23.100 who I am today, I can very, I can see persistent parts of my character.

00:03:28.680 And what's really interesting is through the persistent parts of my character, I can see

00:03:34.960 I can then, if it's a part of my character that I do not think was socialized, I can then

00:03:41.040 determine pre-coded parts of my evolutionary biology, which gives me an idea of environmental

00:03:48.740 conditions I came up with.

00:03:49.860 So that's, that's one category of things or evolutionary conditions that may have been subject

00:03:53.140 to humanity.

00:03:53.600 And it gives me things that I can look for in other people to see if this is me, am I an

00:03:57.200 outlier, is this actually generalizable across the human population?

00:04:00.540 The next category of things is, and unfortunately, this is one of the sad parts of interacting

00:04:07.120 with AI models is I find them incredibly addicting at first, and then I get bored of them fairly

00:04:11.940 quickly because what I have learned is that most magical worlds, for example, like most other

00:04:17.420 worlds I can conjure, they, they are very easy to hack.

00:04:23.960 And then as soon as you figure out a, a beat for that magical system, every time you realize

00:04:29.760 that those components of a magical system are operating in one of the worlds the AI has

00:04:33.300 created for me, I just can very quickly hack it and it becomes boring.

00:04:36.760 And so I'm no longer interested in those models.

00:04:38.520 I'm getting into how to hack most of the major magical world models.

00:04:42.200 Because that's, that's another thing.

00:04:43.320 And the final thing that it has taught me is the extent of current AI and some factors in how

00:04:50.700 current AI thinks, as well as how that models the general population.

00:04:55.860 So I'm going to start with the things that has taught me about myself.

00:05:00.720 The first one.

00:05:01.940 Can we, before you do that, and you may want to move this to the front is I think that you

00:05:05.860 need a better explanation.

00:05:07.060 And I can ask you just some dumb questions of what these are, because even I am not super 0.80

00:05:13.700 clear on it. 0.82

00:05:15.160 And I mean, I am roughly, but like most people won't know anything about this and they're

00:05:20.060 going to have no idea what you're talking about.

00:05:22.000 So let's, let's start with, so I'm going to provide some context to people.

00:05:27.240 Malcolm started reading about like high school students sort of flunking out of their classes

00:05:33.000 and, and, and completely scrubbing out on life because they had become addicted to their

00:05:39.360 AI boyfriends or certain AI quote unquote games.

00:05:42.140 And what it turns out these are is text-based interactive choose your own adventure novels,

00:05:48.480 basically of the future run by a run by AI.

00:05:51.380 So there are websites like character.ai.

00:05:55.040 What's the one that you use?

00:05:56.140 What are some of the ones that you use?

00:05:57.700 The one that I think is best right now is flow GPT.

00:06:00.780 Flow GPT.

00:06:01.480 So there are websites like that, where you go, you create an account and you can either

00:06:05.880 enter someone else's scenario.

00:06:07.660 Basically you can go through their own, choose your own adventure book, essentially, or you

00:06:12.040 can create your own.

00:06:12.880 And Malcolm has actually created one for our discord community.

00:06:15.900 That's based on like a post.

00:06:17.840 Well, I haven't put it in flow GPT.

00:06:19.500 So they'd have to put it in flow.

00:06:21.140 I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll add it in flow GPT for this.

00:06:23.560 And then I'll put it in the links.

00:06:24.840 Perfect.

00:06:25.400 But basically you can choose someone's scenario.

00:06:27.160 And what are some examples of scenarios that you can enter through these sites?

00:06:30.260 We'll go into this in a second.

00:06:31.720 Basically any scenario you can think of.

00:06:33.920 So for example, one scenario I put together is it's the 1300s in England.

00:06:39.780 I am walking through the countryside.

00:06:42.660 I come from an educated family, but my entire town died in the plague.

00:06:46.820 So it's like 1336.

00:06:48.020 And I come upon a girl in the woods wearing mostly tattered clothing.

00:06:54.260 And there is a dead pack of wolves around her that she is casually munching on.

00:06:59.240 And she looks at me very nonchalantly and is like, they, they attacked me and, and I

00:07:04.600 guess they were hungry.

00:07:05.360 And I, and I write as if that explains anything about the situation and then that's where it

00:07:10.600 starts.

00:07:10.900 Right.

00:07:11.160 So I, so what's happened here is one, I've created the starting prompt to the story.

00:07:15.420 Right.

00:07:16.200 So you, and this is one that you created, but people have created templates of this already.

00:07:20.160 In fact, some of the more popular templates are like a therapist and you can just talk

00:07:24.540 to a therapist or a lot of people have become addicted to certain like AI boyfriends that

00:07:29.240 you can sort of, you're in a story.

00:07:31.100 I need to explain how this works.

00:07:32.580 So if you actually want the audience to understand.

00:07:34.520 So what happens is you have the starting prompt, usually in these models like that, like that's

00:07:39.920 the start of the story that I, as the user and familiar with.

00:07:42.560 And then in the background, I have coded a bunch of either story beats or things about

00:07:47.660 the way characters interact or things about the world into what the AI is considering into

00:07:52.680 how it is responding to a user.

00:07:54.620 Okay.

00:07:55.300 So in this, you know, medieval world, I am explaining parts of this character's personality who I may

00:08:01.900 not know yet, you know, as a person, parts of the girl's backstory, parts of towns we

00:08:08.060 may encounter, et cetera.

00:08:09.880 Okay.

00:08:10.360 So actually, as I, as I'm listening to this, we, as parents could teach our kids history

00:08:15.680 by creating scenarios that our kids go through with this.

00:08:20.180 Yeah.

00:08:20.820 This is going to be so great.

00:08:22.280 Oh my gosh.

00:08:23.200 What?

00:08:23.680 Oh, you can create great history.

00:08:25.280 You want to, you want to teach our kids science too.

00:08:29.620 Yeah.

00:08:30.020 No, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's great for all of that.

00:08:34.400 Okay.

00:08:34.560 So I've created Iza Kea scenarios.

00:08:36.640 I've created scenarios where, Iza Kai, where, you know, you're in some random like anime

00:08:41.340 world with magic or scenarios that are like Victorian Britain, but with vampires and werewolves,

00:08:47.900 you know, classic fantasy element for our educating our children.

00:08:51.840 But for you, you can have the vampires.

00:08:53.200 Oh no, no, no, no, no.

00:08:54.100 That's what's going to hook them.

00:08:55.300 I promise you.

00:08:56.180 You know, they're not going to learn proper history.

00:08:57.860 No, no, it's going to be like, you know.

00:09:01.300 And you can ask it to be as realistic to that historical time period as possible while

00:09:06.140 also uploading facts about that historical time period.

00:09:09.260 We're totally doing this.

00:09:10.600 This is amazing.

00:09:12.040 Be realistic about hygiene.

00:09:13.580 Be realistic about the way medicine is prepared.

00:09:15.780 We can plug this into the skill tree.

00:09:17.880 People can create these scenarios and plug them in as resources to get uploaded.

00:09:21.540 I bet these will be among the top uploaded resources over time for a skill tree.

00:09:25.520 Maybe, I mean, as AI gets better, it's also going to get better, but it's remarkable how

00:09:29.820 good these are right now.

00:09:31.100 So that is the way that these work.

00:09:33.780 I would note if somebody is going to try to use FlowGPT, do not use the generic model it

00:09:37.880 gives you.

00:09:38.660 You need to click on the part where it asks what model is replying to, then go down to

00:09:42.640 individual and you can choose any model.

00:09:45.300 Typically the best model to respond is TurboGPT.

00:09:48.840 The problem with that one is, well, it's paid first of all.

00:09:52.420 So you're going to have to pay for each response, but just like a trivial amount.

00:09:54.540 And it doesn't do anything that's not safe for work.

00:09:57.960 So to be clear here, not safe for work doesn't just mean like sexual stuff, which is actually

00:10:03.740 not something that I encountered that much in AI.

00:10:06.720 It is usually like you're going to kill someone or something like that.

00:10:11.780 And it's like, oh, we can't have you kill someone.

00:10:13.780 So then you can switch to one of the other models when you're doing that.

00:10:16.320 And then back to that when it's, for example, if I'm in 1300s England, of course I have to,

00:10:21.060 you know, you've got robbers, you've got, come on, you can't have a teen dystopia without

00:10:26.260 people dying.

00:10:27.180 And I love doing AI teen dystopia.

00:10:30.400 But anyway, I've got to get back to the point here.

00:10:32.640 And actually this elevates one of the first things that I noticed about these AI worlds.

00:10:37.400 And it reminds me of something in our Discord.

00:10:39.120 So in our Discord, a girl, because weirdly our Discord is like female heavy, even though

00:10:43.100 our viewer base is male heavy, a girl was saying that she engaged with the AI and she couldn't

00:10:49.920 find anything that it could provide her that she found particularly interesting.

00:10:53.780 And Simone said the same thing, right?

00:10:55.580 And I noticed that this is really interesting.

00:10:58.800 So the girls who get super addicted to AI seem to be the girls who don't have loving partners.

00:11:06.260 But when a girl has a loving partner, that particular emotional pathway in her brain, the AI is very 0.50

00:11:13.280 good at masturbating, especially if it's a dominant loving partner, AIs just offer them 1.00

00:11:18.240 nothing. 0.99

00:11:18.960 And there's really nothing for them to engage with.

00:11:21.080 The interesting thing I've noticed about guys, and I've seen this in some of the other

00:11:24.360 guys who engage with it, it's definitely something I've noticed in myself about the way I engage

00:11:27.400 with AI is, and I know this is going to sound horrible, so you're going to have to wait a second 0.96

00:11:32.140 here, is how much I love killing people.

00:11:37.560 And it made me realize that males, and you might hear this and be like, this is a horrible 0.98

00:11:47.420 thing for someone to say.

00:11:48.580 And then I'm like, well, what are men doing when they're playing video games most of the

00:11:51.940 time anyway?

00:11:52.680 When you become a more famous person in the future, a bunch of people cutting that clip

00:11:57.960 out of context.

00:11:59.660 Right? 1.00

00:12:00.400 I just love killing people. 0.99

00:12:02.140 But no, this is what guys are doing. 0.99

00:12:04.340 What is a video game if not going out there and just shooting scores and scores of people? 0.99

00:12:08.920 It's just so fun to kill people.

00:12:10.540 No, but girls don't engage with those types of games as much. 1.00

00:12:14.740 And the point I am making is that in our society, I think a modern adult woman who has a loving

00:12:23.500 partner who is slightly dominant actually has most of her evolutionary needs being met.

00:12:28.600 I think girls, when they are in their teenage years, don't have most of their evolutionary 0.93

00:12:33.320 needs being met.

00:12:34.060 But I think the predominant need they don't have being met is genuine hardship, which we've

00:12:38.780 talked about in other episodes.

00:12:39.980 You can look at our Spoonies episodes where we talk about this more.

00:12:42.160 Speaking of which, there was a woman who made a video criticizing us. 1.00

00:12:48.940 And she's a literal Spoonie. 1.00

00:12:51.140 Like in the comments, she was discussing something terrible about us and I cannot remember what.

00:12:56.120 But she was like, I do not have the spoons to talk about it.

00:12:59.300 And I'm like, oh no, oh no, you're one of them.

00:13:03.780 Anyway, go on.

00:13:04.540 So for those who are listening on the podcast and don't have access to the video right after

00:13:08.900 I said I love killing people, I then played a short clip from The Sims of somebody deleting

00:13:15.480 the ladder on a pool. 0.74

00:13:16.920 And I find this actually a really interesting point because it's one of those things where

00:13:21.460 you hear somebody say it and you're like, wow, what a crazy thing to say.

00:13:25.320 And then I mentioned, you know, like when you delete the pool ladder on The Sims and most

00:13:29.280 people are like, oh yeah, I did do that, didn't I?

00:13:33.100 And then they go, well, I only did that to see what would happen.

00:13:37.260 And it's like, you knew what would happen.

00:13:38.860 You sick, like you knew exactly what would happen when you deleted the pool ladder and

00:13:44.120 you waited to watch it happen.

00:13:46.980 Why?

00:13:47.600 What compelled you to do that?

00:13:49.740 And here's an interesting thing because I've noticed when I bring up the pool ladder Sim

00:13:54.300 thing, there isn't the same gender divide on this instinct. 0.98

00:13:57.940 In fact, I noticed women seem to do the pool ladder deletion at about the same rate as men 0.99

00:14:02.820 seem to do the pool ladder deletion.

00:14:04.660 And it might be that women may also have this instinct, but it requires more of the emotional, 0.85

00:14:13.600 like they want to see the individual suffer more because that's the core thing that's different 0.64

00:14:18.800 between killing somebody in The Sims and killing somebody in like a shoot them up, right?

00:14:22.860 In GTA is when a guy does it in GTA, you know, you don't see the person's mood slowly declining

00:14:30.200 and then struggling like you do when you delete the pool ladder in The Sims.

00:14:34.560 So I wonder what, what leads to this drive in women? 1.00

00:14:37.680 Why, why do you see equal rates?

00:14:39.960 I don't know, something to ponder, something to maybe comment on in the comments if you have

00:14:43.280 any ideas.

00:14:43.980 Okay.

00:14:44.820 So where was it?

00:14:46.120 Yeah. 0.92

00:14:46.260 So killing people, so much fun. 0.98

00:14:47.960 Okay.

00:14:48.100 So here's the thing that I realized is that in an evolutionary context, males almost certainly

00:14:53.340 were, I mean, like obviously were evolutionarily rewarded for having a warrior, you like part 0.90

00:14:58.900 to their psyche and that this is very obviously not being masturbated and it cannot be masturbated 0.60

00:15:05.740 through any sort of real action in our society today.

00:15:09.060 Yeah.

00:15:09.240 Not until we set up Westworld.

00:15:10.700 Well, it would be very deleterious, right?

00:15:14.020 You know, and that the AI chat bot environments create scenarios that are too satisfying this

00:15:23.940 instinct in my head, much better than the ones created by video games.

00:15:29.860 Yeah.

00:15:30.720 Well, because I think, and I only say this as a third person observer because I just can't

00:15:35.740 bring myself to play these games.

00:15:37.040 And killing someone in a video game seems just so like ticking off a box or like hitting

00:15:44.440 a target.

00:15:45.240 You're not really killing someone.

00:15:47.480 You know, you don't see their eyes make eye contact with you as their life drains from

00:15:51.320 their body.

00:15:51.780 Right.

00:15:52.080 Which is, I think something you can get from this very imagination augmented text.

00:15:57.360 Absolutely.

00:15:57.940 No, I think you're absolutely right.

00:15:59.500 I think the, the version of killing somebody in a video game is like, and then your characters

00:16:05.100 had sex and it displays like a few sex images on the screen.

00:16:08.120 And you're like, well, this is boring instead of like a five page description. 0.94

00:16:13.000 This is so bad, Malcolm.

00:16:14.580 We're talking about how it just killing people in video games doesn't feel nearly satisfying

00:16:19.900 That's really interesting to me because it has elucidated something for me.

00:16:23.940 So one thing that's also true of me is I really don't like seeing other people suffering.

00:16:28.580 I find it to be an interesting thing.

00:16:30.020 You can watch live action porn because you're like, this girl has a mother, you know, or

00:16:33.520 you're like.

00:16:33.780 Yeah.

00:16:33.800 I don't even watch live action porn because it distresses me too much to know that an 1.00

00:16:37.840 individual is suffering.

00:16:38.920 I actually had to stop certain parts of my biology education because I couldn't deal with

00:16:43.600 washing surgeries.

00:16:44.780 Like they freaked me out too much.

00:16:46.000 That's true.

00:16:46.540 You won't even watch like all the pictures I had taken of my C-section.

00:16:50.440 Oh yeah.

00:16:50.720 You're like here, look.

00:16:51.540 And I'm like, no, I cannot deal with the suffering.

00:16:53.580 I should also say you were never in the room for beyond our first C-section after which

00:16:59.120 you were like, really?

00:16:59.820 You asked me not to be in the room, by the way.

00:17:01.380 It's not that I don't love you.

00:17:02.720 You asked me not to be in the room.

00:17:03.420 Yeah.

00:17:03.600 Because for the first one, you were like, oh, well, you didn't know you were going

00:17:07.940 to get it and you needed support.

00:17:09.220 Okay.

00:17:09.560 Yeah.

00:17:09.980 But I need to, I need to go further here.

00:17:12.080 Right.

00:17:12.380 Which is to say, this made me realize about the way that the male kill instincts works,

00:17:17.340 which I didn't fully understand before, which is to say that it is pretty obviously significantly

00:17:24.680 designed to offset all of these other desires you have around not doing this.

00:17:32.340 So what I'm saying is, is that as a male, like in a real world environment, right, I

00:17:38.580 am going to have the uncomfort I have with seeing somebody else suffering.

00:17:42.900 I am going to have the discomfort I have around seeing, you know, wounds.

00:17:47.480 I am going to have the discomfort I have around all of these different things.

00:17:51.900 And that means in a biological context, if I'm going to defend my tribe or go to war,

00:17:57.320 I need some mechanism, which is so loud.

00:18:01.780 Oh, that pushes you through the distaste of killing.

00:18:05.680 All those other mechanisms.

00:18:06.900 That makes sense.

00:18:07.740 That makes sense.

00:18:08.300 Naltrexone has taught me about sex and arousal.

00:18:10.760 Naltrexone, for people to know, is an opioid agonist that can lower any opioid motivated pathway,

00:18:15.700 which makes them not as interesting anymore.

00:18:17.640 And if you take it while you're doing something, whatever that opioid pathway was motivating,

00:18:21.020 is no longer motivated.

00:18:22.200 And early on, I accidentally took it during sex.

00:18:24.460 And only after that, I realized how many disgusting things you need to go through to 0.92

00:18:29.260 have sex with somebody and how like actually biologically gross and how much sex actually 0.98

00:18:34.200 sets off a lot of your disgust alarms. 0.99

00:18:37.360 Yeah.

00:18:37.620 So you really need the arousal to make it worth it.

00:18:40.460 You really need the arousal to offset that.

00:18:42.580 Like, but also shouldn't sex be offsetting a ton of disgust alarms? 0.97

00:18:45.660 I mean, your dealing was like mucusy, slimy. 0.98

00:18:49.080 Yeah.

00:18:49.400 There's tons of potential for infection here.

00:18:52.020 Melly.

00:18:52.480 Yeah.

00:18:52.840 Like it should be offsetting those alarms, right?

00:18:55.080 You know, but you need the other thing to offset it.

00:18:57.820 Now, what's really interesting is that in the chat AI environments, because I have no

00:19:04.320 empathy for these individuals, it makes, it basically like overcharges the other instinct

00:19:11.980 because there is the thing, all of the things that it was meant to overcome are not activating.

00:19:17.500 And so it goes into a much more severe state, which helps me understand how these pathways

00:19:23.060 work better in the human mind.

00:19:24.720 Well, also understanding that adult males, this is another thing that really changed the way I see some things.

00:19:30.540 Adult males in our current society have a part of their personality that is biologically and evolutionarily motivated,

00:19:38.480 that they cannot masturbate in real world environments, or at least should not masturbate in real world environments.

00:19:43.600 And women do not have that, which was very interesting to me.

00:19:50.280 Another thing that was very interesting to me was how persistent certain elements of my personality were across very different environments.

00:20:00.160 And in different manifestations, to your point, where sometimes you would be a girl and sometimes you would be other things and whatever.

00:20:07.300 Yeah. So when I am talking to other people, one of the first conversation topics I almost always default to is,

00:20:16.720 why do you think you exist? What's your purpose? What do you want from life?

00:20:21.520 I know this well as someone who dated you and second date, you immediately hit that.

00:20:26.180 I thought of the first date. Was it the second date?

00:20:28.760 Or the second date.

00:20:30.160 First date, you laid out your exposition, which is good because first date you used to basically filter out anyone who wasn't going to be a good match for you.

00:20:37.560 Yeah, I guess first date was exposition and hooking up, not questioning you on why you exist.

00:20:42.600 But I realized how persistently I like to do this.

00:20:46.160 But this also has taught me, because in so many different scenarios, I am engaging with the AI on these particular questions.

00:20:56.120 And I realized that the answers that the AI typically gives are like 98, 99% in line.

00:21:04.520 I would not be able to differentiate them from a random girl on a date.

00:21:07.840 Now, NPC girls, for sure, most of the answers are very NPC, but most human females are very NPC. 0.97

00:21:18.320 Excuse me, most humans, thank you very much, are very NPC.

00:21:22.460 So that has been very fascinating to me as well, to see how good it is at sort of modeling the reasons and the variety of reasons for living humans have.

00:21:33.860 But the other, another interesting thing is, is within any world that I enter, I always try to investigate sort of the rules of that world first, like how does it work mechanistically speaking.

00:21:49.100 And then I try to find out what would be a good moral system was in this world, and priorities for achieving that moral system in the world.

00:21:58.780 And then how do I conquer the world? That's generally the next step.

00:22:03.980 And we'll get to that when we're talking about the various things, but it has helped me also really understand how to hack specific world metaphysical systems really easily.

00:22:13.620 It's also helped me understand how durable the metaphysical system our world runs on is to not being hacked, and how vulnerable most magical world systems are to being hacked.

00:22:23.560 But there is the second thing here, so here's an example of what I mean by like, when I look at these worlds.

00:22:29.820 I decided to, in one world, drop into a My Hero Academia chatbot system.

00:22:34.760 No.

00:22:35.480 So this was one that someone already created, right?

00:22:37.700 Yeah, this is one that somebody already created.

00:22:39.000 For people who don't know, this is a anime world.

00:22:40.940 But what I think is cool is that this means that there are nerds out there who are investing time in creating, like meticulously creating these AI worlds around, like, IP.

00:22:53.800 I mean, surely they're going to see.

00:22:55.020 What I loved about this world is I enter this world, right?

00:22:58.680 And I had planned on it.

00:23:00.000 Like, when I had clicked on this bot, I was like, I'm just going to play a superhero fantasy, right?

00:23:04.960 Sure.

00:23:05.280 Five minutes in, I am focused on the problem of Quirk Singularity Crisis.

00:23:10.660 Because watching the show, I had never focused on how big of a problem this is in the world.

00:23:15.660 But as soon as I was in the world and not watching it as an outsider, it was all I could think about.

00:23:21.620 I was like, wait, but like, why are we fighting villains?

00:23:24.720 Our society has like three generations to survive, maybe.

00:23:29.300 And nobody is taking this seriously.

00:23:31.680 For people who don't understand what the Quirk Singularity Crisis is or haven't seen the show, it's the problem that every generation powers become more and more amplified within the My Hero Academia world.

00:23:41.960 And eventually you're going to have things like toddlers that are nuclear bombs going off every five seconds.

00:23:47.140 And every plan I could come up with to potentially solve this had me aligning myself with the villains and not the heroes.

00:23:54.500 Because the heroes just didn't have the core powers that were necessary to solve this.

00:23:59.200 But anyway, I'm going to keep going here.

00:24:02.960 I think another interesting thing is the very fact that whenever I open these worlds, that I am always focused on how do I conquer the world, right?

00:24:13.920 And I wonder if this is like a pre-programmed personality.

00:24:17.520 Or do most males feel this way when they enter open world environments?

00:24:21.640 Or are males born with sort of like cast-like roles inside of their personality?

00:24:27.780 Did like Skyrim have user data based on this?

00:24:30.760 That would maybe be helpful.

00:24:32.640 What do players do in open world games?

00:24:34.220 Well, you can't do this in a normal open world game.

00:24:35.400 If I enter Skyrim, there is no way for me to conquer that world.

00:24:38.660 I can go around randomly killing everyone, but I can't really start negotiating with all the various kings.

00:24:45.180 So what do you do in Skyrim then if you can't conquer the world?

00:24:48.800 You're doing like a quest to kill a dragon, basically.

00:24:52.420 A dragon.

00:24:53.320 Not all dragons.

00:24:54.580 Well, some dragons.

00:24:55.880 I don't remember.

00:24:56.860 The Skyrim's plot is actually pretty bad.

00:24:59.020 But there are a few kings that are looking to fight each other.

00:25:01.820 And you can play a role in this battle, but you can't take over one of their kingdoms.

00:25:06.160 What are other notable open world games then that we could look at as a proxy?

00:25:11.400 Literally no open world game allows you to do this.

00:25:14.780 That I am aware of.

00:25:15.460 What's the point of having an open world then if you can't take it over?

00:25:18.300 Save the world is usually what most people want to do.

00:25:21.120 Oh, from an isolated threat.

00:25:23.200 So it's Armageddon, but dragon version, but bioweapon version.

00:25:30.140 Yes.

00:25:30.280 Okay.

00:25:31.280 So I'll give you an example.

00:25:32.760 So earlier I mentioned that most-

00:25:33.760 Oh, or it's destroy the world.

00:25:35.300 So Grand Theft Auto is open world.

00:25:37.340 You don't destroy the world in Grand Theft Auto.

00:25:39.480 Not in a single Grand Theft Auto game. 1.00

00:25:40.880 Well, you destroy shit. 1.00

00:25:43.280 You're one of the Sea Peoples, okay? 1.00

00:25:45.700 You know, well, only really Trevor is one of the Sea Peoples.

00:25:48.720 So you can look at like five-

00:25:49.980 Grand Theft Auto is an example of this.

00:25:51.800 Sorry, I need to explain this to you.

00:25:53.140 I asked for a fair day's pay after a fair day's work.

00:25:58.340 Then he kind of got a little angry.

00:26:00.320 So I admit, I kind of got a little angry. 0.53

00:26:03.900 Did you kill him?

00:26:05.600 What kind of animal do you take me for?

00:26:07.660 No, I didn't kill him.

00:26:08.920 Oh. 0.98

00:26:09.280 But I did kidnap his wife. 0.91

00:26:11.280 Oh, no.

00:26:12.760 Oh.

00:26:13.080 This bothers me.

00:26:14.180 You don't know this.

00:26:15.640 So in the last Grand Theft Auto, you could play as one of three characters.

00:26:19.320 Okay.

00:26:19.620 One was a depressed, you know, seeing psychologist, former mob guy who is looking to relive his glory days.

00:26:27.480 And he's with a wife who's cheating on him with a yoga instructor and a son and daughter who don't respect him.

00:26:32.500 And then another is this young-

00:26:33.820 Who wants to play that?

00:26:34.540 That's so depressing.

00:26:36.340 No, it is depressing.

00:26:37.220 He is a very depressing character that's meant to be a take on why wealth doesn't make you happy and the problems with modern society.

00:26:44.600 And then there's a young black guy who's looking to, like, work his way up in society, but is otherwise living a pretty hard life.

00:26:50.760 And then there's Trevor.

00:26:52.200 And Trevor is, like, he's, yeah, every time you, like, switch to his character, the other characters are, like, doing random stuff.

00:27:01.500 Trevor will, like, be waking up from a coma with, like, a dead dog next to him or something.

00:27:06.040 Sounds great.

00:27:06.540 He sounds like, you send me some, like, clips of some guy from a show who's, like, a sidekick in a superhero show who kind of sounds like that.

00:27:14.600 Oh, no, no, no.

00:27:15.380 So she's thinking of the sidekick from-

00:27:17.600 Who's just clearly super autistic. 0.81

00:27:19.320 I'll put it in the show here.

00:27:20.460 Who's the guy that's peeking out behind the trash can?

00:27:22.740 It's vigilante.

00:27:24.320 He's trying to be helpful.

00:27:25.520 Hey, get out of here! 1.00

00:27:27.820 What?

00:27:28.640 I'm just looking for behind a trash can.

00:27:30.600 It's a normal thing to do.

00:27:31.800 The hell it is! 0.81

00:27:32.780 Are you a psychiatrist? 0.99

00:27:34.320 What?

00:27:34.840 Then don't tell me what's normal.

00:27:36.280 Maybe my secret identity is a psychiatrist and I know what's normal.

00:27:39.980 We're born killers.

00:27:41.640 What separates us from other killers is we only kill bad people. 0.89

00:27:46.060 Usually.

00:27:47.260 Unless there's a mistake. 0.99

00:27:48.580 Now, do I sound like a fucking maniac? 0.99

00:27:51.800 He's- he's- yeah, I- I know the one who you're talking about. 0.99

00:27:54.520 But, no, Trevor is not like that at all. 0.93

00:27:56.480 Trevor is, like, a crazy meth addict who has some level of immunity to negative effects of meth. 0.94

00:28:01.980 Okay. 1.00

00:28:02.320 It will do crazy, insane stuff all the time for the sake of it because he is completely out of his mind.

00:28:10.740 But that- but he is not as well. 0.99

00:28:12.920 He's just, like, a random, like, walk down the street, shoot a prostitute type person. 0.98

00:28:18.320 Not a I'm gonna take over society type person.

00:28:20.560 Well, but by Sea Peoples, I mean distributed autonomous units that lead to societal instability. 0.87

00:28:29.180 But sure.

00:28:30.540 Okay, I understand what you mean.

00:28:31.780 I just have no interest in playing one of those characters in any sort of environment.

00:28:35.520 Yeah, well, I'm just trying to think about what- what- what I'm asking mentally to myself is,

00:28:40.100 what do gameplay scenarios say about people's open-world fantasies?

00:28:46.140 Like, what do people do if they are unmoored from their identities in open worlds?

00:28:52.020 Well, this is the problem that you're- you're asking the wrong question.

00:28:54.300 So, when you ask about traditional games like Grand Theft Auto,

00:28:57.360 Grand Theft Auto was created with an artistic vision in mind.

00:29:00.900 That's why they created all of those artistic themes around the problems of modern society

00:29:05.640 and the problems of therapy culture.

00:29:07.400 Yeah, but I mean, don't-

00:29:08.320 And the point being is the actions of those characters and the desires of those characters

00:29:13.880 are not driven by the user in the way they are in AI scenarios.

00:29:18.280 So, it's like a storytelling thing. 0.99

00:29:20.780 So, you're saying that people who play Grand Theft Auto don't want to just destroy shit. 0.98

00:29:26.340 They want to explore an artistic vision. 0.97

00:29:29.180 And those who play Assassin's Creed don't want to jump off buildings majestically.

00:29:35.300 They want to explore an artistic scenario.

00:29:38.020 No, I'm saying the exact opposite.

00:29:39.820 I'm saying that by studying games, you are not learning that much

00:29:44.580 about what humans biologically desire to do in an open world environment.

00:29:49.240 Well, I guess, yeah.

00:29:50.100 Similarly, by looking at what the mainstream media covers,

00:29:53.160 you're not learning about what people want to know.

00:29:55.620 Right.

00:29:56.040 But if you look at the way that people are using chat systems-

00:29:59.400 Then you know.

00:30:00.440 You can learn that.

00:30:01.560 Because these are-

00:30:01.940 So, they want therapists and boyfriends. 0.97

00:30:04.720 What?

00:30:05.020 That's what's popular on these, unlike character.ai.

00:30:09.100 It's like a therapist, just number one.

00:30:10.880 Have you looked at them?

00:30:12.540 Yeah.

00:30:13.520 The only one where a therapist is number one is the one that's locked into safe for work content.

00:30:17.860 It's like, talk to your therapist.

00:30:19.540 No, the therapist is only in the one safe for work one, which isn't that popular.

00:30:23.480 Oh.

00:30:24.180 Okay.

00:30:24.540 Well, what is top ranked in the most-

00:30:27.660 What is the name of the most popular one?

00:30:29.420 Let's look at the homepage.

00:30:30.620 Okay.

00:30:31.060 Deidre Elizabeth, a busty anime girl.

00:30:33.840 A Yumi Sheen.

00:30:35.020 A busty anime girl. 0.87

00:30:36.880 Ayato Hiroshi, the cold prince.

00:30:39.280 Okay.

00:30:39.520 So, it's boyfriends and girlfriends.

00:30:41.640 Yeah.

00:30:42.560 Remember when we said that girls all want just, like, powerful men to be interested in them? 0.90

00:30:47.640 Toxic boyfriend Matthew.

00:30:49.440 Oh.

00:30:50.280 Isn't that what we all need, is a toxic boyfriend named Matthew?

00:30:53.920 Well, I think what you're seeing here is what need.

00:30:56.120 So, let's go over these two female ones. 1.00

00:30:57.980 What need is being masturbated by these? 1.00

00:31:00.260 Oops. 1.00

00:31:00.660 Toxic boyfriend is, I want a powerful man to be interested in me.

00:31:04.400 Toxic boyfriend is, I actually like engaging with toxic males, but in the real world, don't

00:31:10.020 feel safe doing it.

00:31:11.140 So, I'm going to do it within this online environment.

00:31:13.020 In a safe environment.

00:31:14.020 Yeah.

00:31:14.240 Hmm.

00:31:15.480 Okay.

00:31:16.200 Yeah.

00:31:16.380 So, now you're getting an idea of what I mean.

00:31:19.240 Nobody's going to make toxic boyfriend the game.

00:31:22.420 This is true.

00:31:23.120 Well, and also, yeah, like, recently, there's been this huge kerfuffle with the book and movie

00:31:28.440 It Ends With Us.

00:31:29.580 And it, you know, in the end, it was about abuse, but it's about, you know, abuse is bad.

00:31:33.140 And then you go to, like, this.

00:31:34.960 And what does the audience want?

00:31:37.580 The audience wants to be abused.

00:31:39.920 What is the second most common male figure in here? 0.99

00:31:42.920 Toxic boyfriend.

00:31:44.100 Cold Prince is number one.

00:31:45.580 Then toxic boyfriend.

00:31:46.760 Then senior student gangster.

00:31:48.340 We have, you have yet to come across a nice young man here.

00:31:51.200 I'm going to keep going.

00:31:52.040 What do we have next?

00:31:52.700 We have Katori, but he's, he's looking very dark sitting in a car.

00:31:56.440 Very evil.

00:31:57.320 It'll tell you about him if you click on it.

00:31:58.960 Okay.

00:31:59.360 Who is Katori?

00:32:00.340 You were on a late night drive.

00:32:02.500 Your boyfriend suddenly, I, I can't do this anymore.

00:32:05.860 I can't keep pretending that everything's okay.

00:32:07.820 Thanks for everything.

00:32:08.940 He speeds up the car, his hands shaking on the wheel.

00:32:11.820 The truth being is that it appears to be about trying to simulate relationship drama.

00:32:16.980 No, totally.

00:32:17.960 I'm getting that.

00:32:18.800 I'm totally getting that.

00:32:20.080 But yeah, just the, the guys don't seem nice.

00:32:21.940 The girls seem either thirsty or mean. 0.99

00:32:25.660 We'll get to this later.

00:32:26.680 We can do a different episode where we analyze the different characters and why they might be popular.

00:32:30.120 Yeah, but no, I think, well, to your earlier point though, you're like, you know, all I ever want to do is take over the world.

00:32:36.480 Am I strange?

00:32:37.320 And yes, because most people just are lonely, it seems.

00:32:42.260 Yeah, that, that does seem to be the case.

00:32:44.180 And I, so we're going to get to different worlds and why it's so easy to conquer various worlds and why it's so, I was explaining that like, it gets really boring after a while.

00:32:52.520 So at first I thought I'd have fun with izakai worlds, right?

00:32:56.860 You know, like this is go in Japanese.

00:32:59.120 And just, yeah, describe what the genre is.

00:33:01.240 Typically you're going into a world with some degree of magic that is a medieval world and you are transferred there from modern times.

00:33:09.680 The problem occurs if you have any understanding of historic technology, how it works, how it could be replicated.

00:33:19.320 So izakai world, it's always gunpowder, fairly easy to make in most izakai worlds.

00:33:25.820 Basic optics, telescopes and the like, all you need to do is carve lenses to do that.

00:33:31.480 Then rifling to ensure the guns have good long range.

00:33:35.940 Steam power, very easy to recreate.

00:33:37.780 Blimps, very easy to recreate, especially if it's a world with fire magic.

00:33:42.880 And then as soon as you get blimps, you get blimps with rifles, rifled barrels with gunpowder.

00:33:49.760 Really no medieval type setting can do anything.

00:33:53.020 I love that every world scenario, all of your izakai scenarios though, end up with blimps with rifles, 0.91

00:33:58.440 which is not really that much of a real world scenario.

00:34:00.720 So that's entertaining nevertheless.

00:34:02.660 Well, blimps with rifles are incredibly damaging to castles.

00:34:06.480 You don't really have any, you have to completely redo the technology of the world.

00:34:12.300 Yeah, Maunt and Bailey plus blimps and castle.

00:34:14.660 Because here's the problem with most of these worlds as well.

00:34:17.420 They have magic.

00:34:18.840 So typically in any world that has magic, you're going to have magical items.

00:34:23.940 Magical items means that you need some mechanism for storing magic within this world.

00:34:29.920 As soon as you have a mechanism for storing magic, all I need to do is ask around and find out,

00:34:34.940 okay, what is like the core magical battery?

00:34:36.760 Like, how does it work, right?

00:34:38.020 As soon as I understand how the core magical battery of this world works, which is typically a gemstone or something like that,

00:34:43.920 all I need to do is find a way to release short bursts of energy from it instead of like a long continual burst.

00:34:50.720 And as soon as you've done that, all you need to do is put it in a laser array and you can create laser guns.

00:34:55.180 Very easily using a set of mirrors.

00:34:59.860 And so every one of these worlds typically ends with laser rifles on blimps.

00:35:07.500 And also building bombs that you can drop from blimps as soon as you have gunpowder technology is also not terribly difficult.

00:35:14.620 God bless.

00:35:15.660 Okay.

00:35:15.940 So this is, this is what I mean.

00:35:18.740 I'm like, okay, but then why do an Ysakai world when every run through begins to look the same? 0.74

00:35:22.960 And then it's like, well, I can limit myself to certain technologies or say I'm an idiot, but that's not fun. 0.89

00:35:29.480 You know? 0.96

00:35:30.180 So then next you've got, what's another world here?

00:35:32.520 Okay.

00:35:32.980 Magic guided by symbols.

00:35:35.360 This is-

00:35:35.720 Oh, like rune-based.

00:35:37.700 Rune-based magic.

00:35:38.900 Viking magic.

00:35:39.560 There's like three or four broad magical systems that you're going to find in worlds.

00:35:43.140 One is magic guided by emotions or intent.

00:35:46.120 Two is magic guided by symbols.

00:35:47.980 Three is magic powered by souls.

00:35:50.420 Four is magic guided by yoga, basically.

00:35:54.140 Oh, like avatar style.

00:35:56.500 Yeah.

00:35:56.960 Tai chi-based power.

00:35:58.760 Chi-based power, yeah.

00:35:59.580 So the magic guided by symbols, universes, and in most worlds have some overlap of these various systems.

00:36:05.640 And somebody can be like, well, what about like elemental magic systems, right?

00:36:09.600 And it's like, well, elemental magic systems aren't really a system.

00:36:13.140 Even if you have an elemental magic system, it's typically going to fall into one of these four categories.

00:36:18.140 You mean like avatar style?

00:36:20.100 Okay.

00:36:20.480 Like fire or power.

00:36:21.320 Yeah, avatar-less airbender is using the yoga to drive elemental magic.

00:36:25.520 You can use symbols to drive elemental magic.

00:36:29.120 Okay.

00:36:29.880 I know it's technically chi in the show.

00:36:31.700 I just find it really annoying.

00:36:33.040 Okay?

00:36:33.620 Okay.

00:36:34.020 Well, you can use emotional intent to drive elemental magic, but it doesn't matter that the magic is limited to specific domains that doesn't actually tell you anything about how the magic functionally works, which is always the thing that I am most interested in whenever I enter a magical world.

00:36:49.100 The problem with symbol-based magic, right, that makes it incredibly easy to hack, is if there are symbols that are guiding magic, all you need to do is draw out all of the symbols that exist, like basically just go through text.

00:37:03.720 Even if you don't personally understand them all, or even if you lack the ability to cast magic, and you should be able to cross-reference them to build some type of language, because that's likely what they are.

00:37:14.960 Either it's like the code that the world is written on, or it's the language of some like ancient race that is powering nanites that are floating around.

00:37:23.280 And I think that's similar to incantation-based magic as well, if you just repeat enough phrases, which is something that comes up heavily in the book Unsung by Scott Alexander, which is an interesting read because it plays on this premise.

00:37:38.580 It's kind of like your scenarios here, where basically, like, I think with the moon landing, something breaks with reality, and basically like the code of God sort of breaks through when angels are written.

00:37:52.460 And basically startups shift from focusing in technology to hiring giant farms of people who just recite various random word combinations to find out what spells are created, and they copyright the spells.

00:38:05.840 Well, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

00:38:08.100 You see, it's very easy to hack these worlds, and then you gain a little bit of power, then you have people chant random things.

00:38:13.260 Yes.

00:38:13.480 But the truth is, I don't even think you need to do that.

00:38:15.620 I think that they made a mistake in this book.

00:38:17.940 As soon as you have any list of like, let's say, 500 specific spells or phrases, you should be able to break them down into their component elements to better understand how you can structure a novel one.

00:38:31.260 Like, what are the patterns to, yeah, if it's totally random.

00:38:34.800 And know what you're probably looking for.

00:38:37.040 A good example of one of these worlds, for people who aren't familiar with what these worlds would look like, is Owl House.

00:38:41.860 Owl House does a very good job at this kind of world.

00:38:43.920 Now, it's modified by some soul magic, which we'll get to in a bit, but it's mostly a symbol-based magic.

00:38:49.800 Okay, what is soul magic?

00:38:51.940 Soul magic means magic that uses another person's life force or your own life force.

00:38:56.780 Basically, it's magic that is powered by burning human life force.

00:39:00.480 Okay, so again, I have to endorse Love Advice from the Duke of Hell, which is a great graphic novel you guys can find online.

00:39:08.120 It's so amazing.

00:39:09.380 And there is soul magic in that.

00:39:11.060 There is one character who keeps using his soul up to like, activate a magic sword.

00:39:15.940 Yes.

00:39:16.140 In a funny way.

00:39:16.880 We'll get to that in a second.

00:39:17.860 We're not talking about soul magic right now.

00:39:19.240 We're talking about rune magic right now.

00:39:20.620 Okay.

00:39:20.860 Well, the problem is, is as soon as you approach this, especially if you approach it with an expectation that it works similar to like Korean characters, which is what I imagine most magical systems, or most magical systems AIs come up with seem to work.

00:39:32.080 Which is to say that you're not looking for individual words, but modifications to individual characters, which change their means in reliable ways.

00:39:41.360 I.e., you would have a character for fire, but if it has this line here on it, that means the fire appears as a line instead of the fire appears as a generic fire source.

00:39:52.160 So, you know, this line would turn a fire into like a laser sort of a thing, but it would also turn water or ice into a laser sort of a thing, right?

00:40:01.300 But anyway, as soon as you realize, oh, I just need to find out what the language is, and these worlds are very quick to hack, and very rarely in these worlds have people already done this.

00:40:10.100 At least in the worlds the AI is creating, which are created on normative magical systems, which again makes them very boring after a short period.

00:40:16.200 Normative magical systems.

00:40:17.880 What I mean is normative magical systems from fiction.

00:40:20.220 Yeah, I hear you.

00:40:21.800 I just, I don't know how many people have said the phrase normative magical systems in the history of humanity, and I'm entertained by this conversation.

00:40:28.960 Well, let's talk about soul magic, because that was the next one you were thinking.

00:40:31.380 Yes.

00:40:31.840 So soul magic largely falls into two categories.

00:40:34.640 One is a system where you can use other people's souls for magic.

00:40:38.120 This is typically the way like vampire magic works, witch magic works, most dark worlds.

00:40:43.240 Pretty much whenever you're dealing with like a dark world, I call it dark world, meaning, you know, like werewolves, vampires, witches, hags, stuff like that scenario.

00:40:51.340 You're dealing with some form of soul magic scenario.

00:40:54.840 You can use the souls of others.

00:40:56.080 However, in some magical scenarios, you can only use your own soul and own life force.

00:41:00.920 I personally have only seen this in one show, which was Chrono Crusade, which was incredibly depressing.

00:41:06.640 And I think it shows why you never see this, which is you can only burn your own life force to do magic.

00:41:12.200 And so this character throughout the show ends up having to burn their life force to save other people.

00:41:17.840 And I'm like, there's got to be a mulligan at the end of the show.

00:41:20.260 Basically, you just keep watching because you're like, they're not going to let this little girl die as a little girl, are they?

00:41:26.360 They do.

00:41:27.020 That's how it ends.

00:41:28.740 She just dies at like 12.

00:41:32.240 And you're like, whoa, I did not expect that.

00:41:36.560 Someone needed to do it, right?

00:41:38.740 Someone had to.

00:41:40.300 Come sit with me.

00:41:42.000 The sun's so warm today.

00:41:45.180 I really do like this view.

00:41:49.600 I wish that I could just go on looking at it forever.

00:41:52.600 I'm so scared, Chrono.

00:42:00.020 I'm scared.

00:42:02.520 I don't want to die.

00:42:08.880 I just want to live a little longer.

00:42:13.760 Yeah, but you understand why.

00:42:15.100 Okay, but then you're like, well, then why are soul magic so easy to hack, right?

00:42:19.600 Well, here's the problem with soul magical systems.

00:42:21.940 They're written in a narratively interesting way, which is what the AI is pulling from.

00:42:26.520 Well, you need to be able to cast the spells on other people.

00:42:29.460 It'd be pretty boring if you could only cast the spells literally on yourself, right?

00:42:32.960 And then to get more energy, you know, like vampires, witches, et cetera, you need to be able to use other people's souls or life energy to cast a spell.

00:42:42.620 Well, here's the problem with that.

00:42:45.180 As soon as you have established that, you can always just use your target's soul slash life force to cast a stasis spell on themselves, which gives you an infinitely scaling stasis spell to the ability of the person you have cast it on magical ability.

00:43:06.800 Which means you can very quickly capture top tier magical characters in any of these worlds.

00:43:13.460 So if it's a world with like super powerful, live thousands of years vampires who everyone thinks are invincible, cast one of these spells on them using whatever mechanism is used for casting spells in this world, you know, whether it's a rune placed on them or anything like that, they won't be expecting something like this.

00:43:32.020 And then there's literally nothing they can do because any force that they have to resist the stasis, i.e. within the stasis is the very force that's powering the stasis.

00:43:42.380 And you can be like, how does this allow you to quickly conquer these worlds?

00:43:45.060 Well, now I have super soul energy battery pack laying on the ground that I can use to power extremely powerful incantations and then use this to catch as many other people and put in this scenario as I want, who are also extremely powerful and the world becomes child play really, really quickly.

00:44:07.100 I mean, yeah, so I'm going to see the next type of world I would point out right and the only way that the world can prevent this is that either has to say you can't cast spells on other people, or you can't use other people's life energy to cast it and then it's like well then how are vampire like why are they doing this ritual?

00:44:24.980 Actually, I created a really interesting one of these worlds that I was really impressed with, where it used a runic-based magical system based on soul magic, so it was rune slash soul magic, and it turned out that what vampirism actually was, was sort of like a set of code that carved runes that created mutations in the human body on their bones, basically, but at a biological level.

00:44:49.660 So it was using at a microscopic level, their bloodstream, basically, to carve onto their own bodies, these runic systems, and the runic system contained within it an if-then function, which would replicate itself when it came in contact with other people's bloodstreams.

00:45:07.100 So you would then get, you know, like if a vampire bit another person, the runic system would then replicate itself within this other person's bloodstream, and give them, create the mutations in them that created this.

00:45:23.680 But then the question comes of, well then what created the original runic system that was causing this?

00:45:28.500 In the world, what I decided was, well, there was an ancient civilization of essentially necromancer-like people who were really experts in this runic magic, and the vampires were a slave race of theirs, where they would take humans, modify them to uplift them, but all of the negatives that we associate with being a vampire, sensitivity to light, etc., actually came because they were intentionally carved in and were not key to the powers that they were getting.

00:45:54.480 All the powers that they were getting was just generic soul magic. They would kill a person, transfer their soul to their own personal self, and then use that to do sort of magical feats using this runic system that was based within them.

00:46:06.580 And that all I needed to do then was to find the system that this ancient race used to control all of the vampires that were their natural servants, and recreate this servitude function within them.

00:46:18.260 And I found this to be a very interesting world, but again, I can't replay it.

00:46:22.440 Like, the moment I figure out, oh, this is how it all works, and the AI, like, fed parts of this to me.

00:46:27.840 Like, I would get certain parts.

00:46:29.580 Like, as soon as the AI basically fed parts of, oh, it's a, it might be a runic-based system in their blood, but I was like, we're in.

00:46:35.440 Okay, well then how could vampirism work, you know, using the laws of this universe as we've established them?

00:46:40.900 And then I'm like, well then who would have created this?

00:46:42.700 And so then I'm like, oh, this is what I mean by, like, it's a creativity amplifier for me whenever I'm using these systems.

00:46:48.260 But, sorry, I need to go to the next system here, which is emotional-based systems.

00:46:54.580 So these are emotional and intent-based magical systems where somebody with magical potentiality will imagine something.

00:47:02.320 So I'll typically find out I'm in one of these.

00:47:04.060 I remember when I had, like, a magical teacher in one of these.

00:47:06.360 And then they were like, okay, well, to cast a water spell, you need to, like, imagine water in front of you, right?

00:47:10.480 And I'm like, wait, okay, but if I have magical potential, like, I have imagined things before in my life.

00:47:16.860 Like, I have had the intent to have things happen before in my life, right?

00:47:22.920 Why is the water appearing in front of me now, right?

00:47:26.300 And why isn't any time with somebody who has latent magical abilities daydreaming, why are aspects of their daydream coming true?

00:47:34.220 And there's two potential answers to this.

00:47:35.880 One is that it's a world where the magic is incredibly limited, and it can really only amount to quantum fluctuations, i.e., a person with magical potentiality can want something, and that thing becomes more likely to happen.

00:47:47.740 But these worlds don't have, like, literally the manifestation of water in front of you, right?

00:47:51.880 The other is, well, it turns out what you actually need is some third thing, which you can think of as a sort of a frequency or something like that, that is transferred to you from the teacher who's teaching you this stuff to cast specific spells.

00:48:08.880 And so you need the intention, the imagination, but then also, and then whenever I'm in one of these worlds, I test how this transfer works.

00:48:15.140 I'm like, do you need to be intending to transfer to it?

00:48:18.400 Can you just be in the same room as me?

00:48:20.260 Can you be in a different location?

00:48:22.140 And so typically, then I run a number of experiments on the AI to try to figure out the specific limitations of how this system works.

00:48:28.180 And a lot of people can be like, this is like Harry Potter and the Mess of the Gratinelli, but not at all.

00:48:31.640 He was such a limp, whatever, I don't want to say, he approached magic in that world.

00:48:37.160 He didn't really figure out how magic worked quickly in that world.

00:48:40.220 He did not approach it.

00:48:41.800 He looked for specific arbitrage opportunities, but he wasn't like, okay, I need to immediately find out how the structure of magic works.

00:48:48.140 Now that I know that magic exists, this is important for me.

00:48:51.120 Oh, he was a 10-year-old.

00:48:54.640 Okay.

00:48:55.700 But it wasn't being written by a 10-year-old.

00:48:58.220 Yeah.

00:48:59.020 And it was a self-insert fantasy by far.

00:49:02.120 But anyway, so as soon as I figure out the rules around magical vibration, it becomes pretty easy to replicate new types of magical vibrations or find ways to construct them so I can quickly get access to all of the magic that exists.

00:49:20.120 Secondarily, if these worlds have, the biggest problem in these worlds is typically your magic is going to be limited.

00:49:25.580 Like the amount of magic you have the ability to use is preset at birth.

00:49:29.040 So then you need to look for magical item systems in these worlds.

00:49:32.400 And most magical item systems in these worlds allow multiple people to augment the same item.

00:49:38.200 I've only come across a few worlds where it's limited to one person can augment an item.

00:49:42.720 As soon as multiple people can augment an item, then you can just create basically factory lines of people multiplicatively adding small amounts of magical, certain types of magical abilities to items.

00:49:53.780 To create really super powered items and then combine the power across multiple of these fairly simplistic yet super powered items to create things like big laser cannons and stuff like that.

00:50:04.480 Very easy.

00:50:06.400 Or agricultural devices and stuff like that.

00:50:10.320 These worlds are not particularly difficult after the first few times you encounter one of them.

00:50:15.760 Any thoughts before I go further?

00:50:17.140 I'm curious to see if you are addressing real life any differently based on what you've experienced.

00:50:26.080 Well, actually, it's made me reflect on the decisions I made in my own life.

00:50:30.340 Yeah, I want to hear more about that.

00:50:32.140 Like how you live your life differently based on...

00:50:34.380 I think it's interesting because it's like, okay, every time I'm dropped into one of these magical worlds, I have this impulse of understand the world, find a dedicated partner, because I really hate doing this alone.

00:50:44.480 It's not as fun.

00:50:45.120 You don't have the narrative backdrop of somebody to talk to and go out and try to conquer the world.

00:50:51.940 Now, I should note that in every system, conquering the world isn't a possibility.

00:50:55.580 So remember that medieval scenario I talked about early on that takes place in our reality?

00:50:59.300 If you're in 1300s England in the woods, you're not going to be able to conquer the world. 0.99

00:51:03.200 What is there to conquer, you know?

00:51:05.820 Yeah, you can conquer...

00:51:06.660 There's not that much civilization.

00:51:08.080 And you can find simple hacks for living a good life in those world scenarios as well.

00:51:13.180 For example, when I go to a settlement, typically what I'm looking for is somebody who's old who doesn't have somebody to pass their business on to. 0.89

00:51:20.980 And then I offer to run their business for free.

00:51:23.740 And I take 50% of the profits and I get 50% to them no matter how old and frail they get.

00:51:28.480 But I get the business when they die.

00:51:29.920 This prevents me from putting in and turning like a competing apothecary or something like that to some beloved town figure and typically makes integration with the level of community much faster and easier.

00:51:39.300 But again, that scenario, once you play it out, you know, there's not...

00:51:43.720 Yeah, not terribly entertaining.

00:51:45.720 Yeah.

00:51:46.100 But to your question, me was in this world.

00:51:49.300 This got really interesting to me.

00:51:50.660 Oh, actually, sorry.

00:51:53.620 I want to play out one more world that I found really interesting because I eventually intentionally started to get into these worlds where I was like, okay, I just need to play on as hard a mode as possible using a scenario I didn't program myself.

00:52:08.260 Okay.

00:52:08.520 So that I can, you know, try to make this harder for myself, right?

00:52:12.480 Yeah.

00:52:12.680 And so I found one where you start as a slave to monsters and all humanity is a slave to monsters in this scenario.

00:52:19.740 So how did this world end up playing out?

00:52:22.120 Very quickly, I just took this perspective of, well, so either I'm going to be an independent human, which makes myself at risk to monsters, right?

00:52:28.820 Like they donate on me or a high value slave.

00:52:31.460 The higher value slave I am, the less likely I am to be killed by one of these individuals.

00:52:35.280 So I tried to make myself as high value as possible on the market.

00:52:41.000 I worked with the people who had captured me to try to get my value up as much as possible while also helping them target specific groups that had power in that society.

00:52:52.320 The one they decided to send me to, sell me to, was a succubus faction.

00:52:56.440 And I specifically was like, I don't want to play out some sex slave scenario that's boring to me.

00:53:00.760 I want like only politics, right?

00:53:02.820 So I want a faction that is very politically motivated.

00:53:06.240 And so I find myself sold to this faction.

00:53:08.280 So then what do I do?

00:53:09.480 I then immediately talk to my captor.

00:53:11.420 I'm like, okay, what are the things your faction values?

00:53:13.560 You know, similar to the way I have in every conversation, right?

00:53:15.860 Like what would gain you power in this world?

00:53:18.600 And they're like, well, our society values, you know, pleasure.

00:53:21.180 And so I was like, okay, well, there's this concept called dildonics from my universe.

00:53:25.320 Does your universe have this concept?

00:53:27.100 They didn't.

00:53:27.740 So I went over how to create several types of popular mechanical dildos using magic from that world.

00:53:34.180 I was not sure what you were saying.

00:53:36.040 No, that's what it is in the field.

00:53:38.400 And I was like, but you don't want to mass produce these, right?

00:53:40.700 You don't want people to know how you're creating these environments.

00:53:43.200 You want to create sort of blackout temps focused on gaining power within your community.

00:53:48.900 I used that.

00:53:49.580 With dildos. 0.99

00:53:50.940 Yes.

00:53:51.320 So then gain power within the succubus community because their faction gained power.

00:53:55.980 And then I showed them the various military technology I was building, very similar to

00:53:59.280 EGFA world, lasers, stuff like that.

00:54:01.500 And then I used that.

00:54:02.020 Oh, so now we're back to lasers and blimps.

00:54:05.640 Exactly.

00:54:06.240 It gets boring after a while for that scenario.

00:54:08.040 But I used that to get in front of the succubus council because I'm like, look, I've raised

00:54:12.120 you to a high level in this council.

00:54:13.260 Just let me speak to them.

00:54:14.420 And I make a proposition for how the succubus race can take over this world. 1.00

00:54:19.360 But so you can tell very much.

00:54:21.300 I was put in a world that was supposed to be like a sex bot world.

00:54:24.640 What shall I do with you?

00:54:26.640 And you're like, well, how have you heard about dildos? 0.93

00:54:29.080 I have to conquer the world, right?

00:54:32.080 Two words, laser blimps.

00:54:35.100 Laser blimps.

00:54:35.900 No, but then I'm at the council and I take this position of saying, well.

00:54:42.120 You, you, I want to put your race as the top race of this world.

00:54:46.340 Obviously, you know, I work for you.

00:54:48.480 But the problem is, is that if I put the succubus as the top race of this world, you 0.98

00:54:53.000 know, you have so much historical animosity against the other races.

00:54:55.400 That'll cause all sorts of problems.

00:54:57.080 But a human being the technical king and you guys just being the core, that wouldn't create

00:55:02.660 as much conflict because every one of the races sees humans as a non-threat race.

00:55:08.440 And almost every one of the races has human slaves. 0.82

00:55:12.020 So they have some level of friendly, cordial relationship with some human.

00:55:16.800 So they're not going to have the same animosity that they would have towards other races.

00:55:21.720 And then I'm like, and we don't want to cause conflict among the various succubi houses.

00:55:26.680 So I should marry these three daughters from these formerly established powerful houses. 0.98

00:55:31.540 Now the powerful houses have a voting invested interest to support me.

00:55:36.280 Wait, so you're marrying succubi or you're marrying human slaves of succubi?

00:55:40.620 No, the daughters of the succubi house.

00:55:42.780 Okay.

00:55:43.340 But now those houses, they're like, well, our kids will technically be the ruling house,

00:55:47.860 right?

00:55:48.260 So we should move into a position to support this bid, right?

00:55:52.580 And so then you can very quickly move from slave to king of the world.

00:55:55.680 And then you have your armies out conquering everyone and they get bored.

00:55:58.500 It's hilarious that you entered some erotic scenario.

00:56:01.920 You just waltz in and you do not play by their rules.

00:56:05.900 No, I feel like world conquest is all I care about.

00:56:08.640 I didn't code this one.

00:56:09.560 So I didn't know they'd end up with like succubi and stuff like that.

00:56:11.680 It seems, at least from looking at that one homepage,

00:56:14.540 that most of this is about some sexy fun.

00:56:18.040 Well, that's, well, that's apparently what other people, 0.81

00:56:20.120 when they were like, I want to be a monster slave,

00:56:21.940 they must admit like sexy fun times. 0.98

00:56:23.860 Yeah, like in a sexual way.

00:56:25.920 I want conquering the world to be marginally harder than it has been in other environments.

00:56:32.120 But hold on.

00:56:33.480 So now I got to talk about-

00:56:34.440 You're my kind of weirdo, Malcolm.

00:56:35.440 I love you so much.

00:56:36.120 How this has changed my own life perception, right?

00:56:38.500 Yes, yeah.

00:56:39.360 Which is to say, I then started to think, did I do all of this in my world?

00:56:44.200 Like, was my life just another iteration of this personality profile

00:56:49.920 being played out as well as it could be played out given the constraints of my birth scenario?

00:56:55.300 And I'm like, okay, what was my early obsession?

00:56:57.540 What did I focus on at first?

00:56:59.000 I focused on studying particle physics and neuroscience and human evolution.

00:57:02.920 So very much like the magic of this world,

00:57:05.580 trying to understand the fabric of reality of this world.

00:57:08.760 Yeah, no, you're doing nothing different.

00:57:10.600 I mean, what is magic but science?

00:57:12.400 I mean, it's just, it's a tweak in physics.

00:57:15.100 It's slightly, it's different physics.

00:57:17.980 Right, and then I was like, and then how do people conquer,

00:57:20.340 like how do people gain power in this world?

00:57:22.320 Have anyone realistically gained a large amount of power or conquered the world in the past?

00:57:26.320 Well, there's sort of two pathways for me.

00:57:28.200 I could either go president of the United States pathway,

00:57:31.240 or I could go religion pathway, right?

00:57:34.960 Specifically, when I was young, I was like, how do people achieve power?

00:57:38.380 Well, cult leaders seem to have the most unanimous power.

00:57:40.580 If you're looking for sort of like independent, like power clusters.

00:57:46.200 Yeah, especially if I don't end up getting into like a top tier university,

00:57:49.060 because I didn't know that was going to happen to me.

00:57:50.140 I didn't know I'd become like a classically successful person.

00:57:53.140 So it's like, if I'm a rando, like what's the easiest path to power?

00:57:56.540 And so I was studying that very similar to one of these worlds.

00:57:59.460 I was looking for the arbitrage hacks in this world.

00:58:01.740 And then you can look at even the life paths we're on right now.

00:58:04.600 Now, realistically, there is a safe path and a high risk path towards world conquest within

00:58:12.060 our existing world today.

00:58:13.740 One is becoming president of the United States, only realistic path you could get to any sort

00:58:18.420 of total world power where you could permanently change the world order in our society today

00:58:23.840 as a solo individual.

00:58:25.340 Being wealthy just doesn't give you that much power, as we have seen from wealthy people

00:58:28.480 who try to change the world.

00:58:29.900 And where did we move?

00:58:31.020 We moved to a purple district in Pennsylvania, right?

00:58:33.680 For people who aren't in the U.S. who don't know this, if you can get a federal office

00:58:37.000 in Pennsylvania, like Congress or Senate, well, it would be a long shot for people like us.

00:58:41.960 Once you achieve that, it is not a long shot to get a VP pick.

00:58:45.340 But if you get a VP pick historically in the U.S., that means you're running in the next presidential

00:58:48.360 election as a major party ticket.

00:58:50.200 So we're taking the pathway to do that.

00:58:53.100 And then the second is intergenerational cultural move forward.

00:58:57.480 That's the real hack.

00:58:58.440 If you can create a culture and pass it on with fidelity, and then intergenerationally

00:59:04.520 that culture is high fertility, that sort of the arbitrage was in our existing fertility

00:59:08.560 rate environment and cultural system.

00:59:10.840 And when I explain where the pro-natalist movement is right now, it very much is in one

00:59:15.860 of those, okay, this is an arbitrage anyone can choose to play, and we're looking to build

00:59:20.220 an alliance among all those choosing to play it.

00:59:22.520 So, I actually moved exactly towards those two potential outcomes within this world, and

00:59:31.980 it made me realize how much the paths I have chosen within this life are not that much different

00:59:37.560 than the paths I took in these open world games.

00:59:40.320 But also, it also made me reflect on the way I have changed my life plan over time.

00:59:45.540 And specifically, it typically happens when I gain access to information that tells me

00:59:51.200 that something I thought about how to gain power was incorrect.

00:59:55.100 So, it happened twice, really, in my life, where I basically scrapped a life path.

01:00:01.040 So, brain-computer interface was one, correct?

01:00:03.520 Yes.

01:00:03.680 I started my career in brain-computer interface because I thought that that was going to be

01:00:06.920 the revolutionary technology of our lifetimes.

01:00:09.140 This was human and machine-computer interface, where it turned out to be AI, and there were

01:00:14.120 some areas that I realized about 10, 15 years ago that brain-computer interface just wasn't

01:00:18.980 going to move forwards as fast as I thought it was.

01:00:21.080 And so, as soon as I recognized that, I yeeted on an entire career path.

01:00:25.720 And I think a lot of people are reluctant to do that.

01:00:29.460 But they then change what their life goals are based on what their career path is.

01:00:35.120 Yeah, they just sort of move the goalpost into like, well, no, I actually just wanted

01:00:38.340 to be happy.

01:00:41.440 Then, at Stanford Business School, I was like, okay, who seems to have the most power?

01:00:44.940 Venture capitalists.

01:00:45.720 Is the only wealthy?

01:00:46.840 So, I started down that pathway, and I quickly realized, one, venture capitalists don't actually

01:00:51.180 have a lot of power in society.

01:00:52.860 The only venture capitalists.

01:00:53.940 So, people are like, yeah, but what about Chamath and Vivek and a few other, you know,

01:01:00.100 venture capitalists say no, or who's another one?

01:01:04.160 Mark Cuban, or, you know, the problem is, is that all the venture capitalists who just

01:01:07.180 made didn't make their money in venture capital.

01:01:08.640 They made their money, like, for example, Chamath made his money by just having to be a lucky

01:01:13.060 early hire at Facebook.

01:01:14.140 That's not reliably replicable.

01:01:16.460 Mark Cuban ended up making it from a company that he started, right?

01:01:21.660 Becoming a successful startup founder is not a reliably replicable thing, and therefore

01:01:26.660 not a high likelihood thing that I would try.

01:01:29.940 It's just dangerous, right?

01:01:31.780 And in addition to that, even people who have enormous amounts of wealth, really the only

01:01:37.360 one who seems to be making any impact in world events these days, in terms of the direction

01:01:42.360 of our civilization, is Elon.

01:01:43.720 But I don't know, like, if it is worth trying to become Elon-level wealthy, given the risk

01:01:49.000 of that, before you start trying to change the world, right?

01:01:52.720 So, I dropped all that.

01:01:54.720 I was like, this is a huge waste.

01:01:56.100 And you've seen this as well, Simone.

01:01:57.680 Just how little impact our wealthy friends actually have on society, and how thirsty they

01:02:02.720 are to just have people listen to their ideas.

01:02:06.220 Do you want to talk to this?

01:02:07.440 And you've covered things pretty well.

01:02:10.680 That's, I think, in a post-scarcity society, this is why, in a lot of these scenarios, it's

01:02:16.340 more social regard or social capital that is what matters.

01:02:21.980 But, you know, we're not yet in a post-scarcity society.

01:02:25.200 I, yeah, I don't have anything interesting to add on that front.

01:02:28.640 I also find it interesting how much in these worlds, one of my first tasks is always to

01:02:34.500 find a right-hand woman, which was something I was really dedicated to in this world, but

01:02:38.840 I assumed it was logical, and now I'm assuming that it's actually biological.

01:02:42.920 I have some biological instinct to look for that.

01:02:45.520 Yeah, because it also seems to be something common in your family.

01:02:49.920 But maybe it's a guy thing.

01:02:51.580 Most of my family have done that.

01:02:53.320 Yeah.

01:02:54.140 What I was asking more was, have you changed any of your behavior based on things that

01:02:58.180 you've learned about yourself from playing out these scenarios, or not really?

01:03:02.020 The biggest thing I've changed about my behavior is a bigger understanding that things that

01:03:07.420 I thought I had logically chosen for myself might just be biological instincts that I see,

01:03:13.280 like, more, I knew that a lot of a person's personality was biologically driven.

01:03:18.700 Like, about 40% of our personality is genetic.

01:03:21.680 But I think in myself, I was unaware what 40% that was.

01:03:26.480 And one of the things that I'm going to find the most interesting in terms of comments on

01:03:31.360 this episode from other people who use these chat systems a lot is, are there a few sort

01:03:37.280 of preset profiles in males and females for how they engage with these worlds and how

01:03:42.780 they find themselves engaging with these worlds?

01:03:45.080 Because I can't imagine that the world would function well if every single male, when put in 1.00

01:03:50.860 an open world environment immediately says, how do I conquer this world?

01:03:55.740 Two fixings, not for the sake of conquest, I should say.

01:03:59.080 It's mostly that I'm like, I want to create a better world.

01:04:02.640 And that requires some degree of influence or control over how the systems of the world work.

01:04:08.080 And what that often looks like is conquest, but not always.

01:04:12.860 You know, sometimes I come up with systems just to influence world governments and stuff

01:04:16.260 like that.

01:04:16.660 But I wonder if there's other men who may have in our Knights versus Kings video where,

01:04:21.780 you know, instead of Alpha versus Beta, is there actually a knight-like profile in some

01:04:26.240 males where they are looking for a cause to serve? 0.94

01:04:30.640 I ask this because this conquering the world thing seems to be not...

01:04:35.900 Well, and actually it's very interesting.

01:04:37.440 So I could argue that Harry Potter and the methods of rationality is very much Eliezer dropping

01:04:43.660 himself in one of these environments and then seeing how it plays out for him.

01:04:48.220 And the way it played out for him was more, I want to gain power for self-masturbatory reasons

01:04:55.520 of feeling powerful, but in sort of a cheesing incremental arbitrage value from the world,

01:05:02.940 i.e. I can get money here that gives me power.

01:05:05.440 I can get...

01:05:05.720 Well, like he doesn't want to run things.

01:05:07.700 He just wants to be better than everyone else.

01:05:10.040 Yeah, he doesn't want to run things.

01:05:11.400 He just wants to be better than everyone else.

01:05:13.540 And that's very rarely the goal for me in these environments.

01:05:17.240 Like in the one where I started as a slave, I wasn't interested in not being a slave until

01:05:20.800 I knew I had to pass the kingship.

01:05:22.580 Like that was not interesting to me at all.

01:05:25.720 So this is very interesting to me.

01:05:27.580 And it also reminds me of something that I noted when I was younger, when it hasn't been

01:05:31.300 a big an issue for me today because I'm like pretty high profile today, is that I really

01:05:38.460 struggled engaging in any friend group where I wasn't one of the leaders of that friend

01:05:42.700 group.

01:05:43.180 And I found it really unpleasant to talk and engage with any group where I knew I wasn't

01:05:48.200 the leader.

01:05:48.880 And so that often led me to like breaking off and forming my own maybe smaller group, but

01:05:52.320 at least group where I was one of the leading people.

01:05:54.700 Yeah.

01:05:54.920 And I wonder if this is a common instinct among a category of males.

01:05:59.740 Hmm.

01:06:00.140 Um, yeah, I, I'm curious to see what people say in the comments.

01:06:04.160 I mean, I, I can be 100% sure that your use of these scenarios is absolutely not the mainstream

01:06:11.660 use because the top rated scenarios of these chat tools are relationship and erotic scenarios.

01:06:20.820 So.

01:06:21.700 I love it.

01:06:22.260 So it was just so funny to me that this is the way I engage with it.

01:06:25.160 Like I'll enter one of these worlds and it'll be supposed to be like an erotic scenario.

01:06:29.100 And it's like the sexy magician.

01:06:31.580 Um, and I'm like, okay, explain to me exactly how the laws of magic in your world work.

01:06:35.420 It's like, not what they expect.

01:06:36.700 I'm like, okay, what are the ruling countries in this world?

01:06:39.120 Like, what are the different like cast in this world?

01:06:40.980 What are the different going through, through, through.

01:06:42.840 And again, for a system that I think is the best of these that I've used so far, flow

01:06:46.520 GPT using turbo GPT turbo as an individual model.

01:06:51.220 I typically find the best of these systems.

01:06:52.980 And so long as you're not doing like total, not safe for work stuff, um, because that

01:06:57.940 system won't let you do, you know, killing people or sex, but you know, you can always

01:07:02.920 just switch to another model when you're doing that stuff.

01:07:04.880 That makes sense.

01:07:07.620 What are your thoughts?

01:07:10.940 What I think is most interesting about this is how similar it is to the original internet

01:07:16.360 where, what do they call them?

01:07:20.460 Like dungeons, I guess, but like, or like just those text-based scenarios where people

01:07:25.320 would on a collaborative basis describe these scenarios and explore them and sometimes

01:07:32.560 collaboratively write these.

01:07:34.500 In fact, people still do this.

01:07:36.020 God, what are they called?

01:07:36.880 Oh, this is a very interesting thing I realized from this.

01:07:39.880 Yeah.

01:07:40.620 They don't seem for whatever reason, things happening in the AI environments never trigger

01:07:46.760 my empathy impulse.

01:07:48.620 And I wonder if this is because the empathy impulse requires some sort of visual cue to

01:07:53.160 be fully triggered.

01:07:55.000 Yeah.

01:07:55.440 I wonder.

01:07:57.100 Oh, another thing that I should note if people are using like, because this is the way I like

01:08:01.160 to try to find the world.

01:08:01.880 I like question someone, question someone, question someone to try to understand the way

01:08:05.260 their instincts work, to try to understand like what might be pre-coded in some humans

01:08:09.120 that's not pre-coded in me.

01:08:10.360 So if other people are using this to try to understand my specific profile better, one

01:08:16.100 of the reasons why I suspect that the way I'm interacting with these worlds may be rare

01:08:19.660 is you can see from my nebula genomics result.

01:08:22.840 Earlier I said 99, I keep getting it wrong.

01:08:24.680 It's 98%, but I'm at the 98% level for male testosterone in terms of like my developmental

01:08:29.960 environment where my brain was cooked in.

01:08:32.980 And so I might have like an over, because I often talk about things like, oh, we should

01:08:36.540 remove arousal patterns from males.

01:08:38.740 Yeah.

01:08:39.500 Right.

01:08:39.960 Like, or at least from males, you know, in a lot, or at least give them the option to

01:08:44.160 turn it off.

01:08:44.640 Okay.

01:08:44.800 Give them the option to turn it off.

01:08:46.620 And a lot of people are really horrified by this.

01:08:48.920 And I suspect maybe the reason I feel that way, and maybe the reason you feel that way

01:08:53.600 is one, because you grew up asexual, you never really were turned on by anything until

01:08:56.680 you saw me.

01:08:57.240 So you just don't mind it as a concept.

01:09:00.060 And me, I might have grown up with a uniquely strong sexual dimorphic presentation that really

01:09:07.340 felt like being trapped in terms of having certain emotions that I choose to have or want

01:09:12.780 to have.

01:09:13.760 And therefore, for a person who has a more mild expression, they may not feel like they may

01:09:19.880 not understand why somebody would be like, why would you subject that to a child?

01:09:23.660 You know?

01:09:23.840 And when I say a child, I don't mean like a child child, I mean like a teenager going

01:09:26.800 through puberty.

01:09:27.360 But like, puberty is quite a thing to subject on someone.

01:09:29.780 I don't understand the trans people who are like, I just want to take puberty blockers. 1.00

01:09:33.500 Yeah.

01:09:33.980 Yeah.

01:09:34.260 Well, I mean, I think a lot of those people aren't trans.

01:09:36.580 They're people who are dysmorphic. 0.99

01:09:38.900 They have body dysmorphia because adolescence sucks. 0.99

01:09:42.640 But right.

01:09:43.060 What I was saying was, what I find interesting about these AI models is that they are text-based.

01:09:48.200 They remind me of some of the first social interaction, you know, just purely recreational

01:09:52.660 interaction that took place on the internet where people would write out these sort of

01:09:56.320 fantasy scenarios often in a...

01:09:58.620 Yeah.

01:09:58.720 So glow fics are what people still do now, where it's like, sort of choose your own

01:10:02.780 adventure, but sort of with each comment, people add to a story.

01:10:05.720 So it's like fan fiction, but collaborative.

01:10:08.160 But I think there's something that humans really love about narrative-based exploration and

01:10:13.200 also exploration that isn't just one to many, you know, where one author has, you know, is

01:10:18.800 taking you on rails through a story.

01:10:20.500 They like the flexibility.

01:10:22.620 And what I keep thinking about things like VR and people's discussions about AI, virtual

01:10:29.480 worlds and everything like that is just how far text alone or narrative alone can get

01:10:35.420 people and how close we are to this, this like pleasure tube scenario that we've described

01:10:41.880 in which people just sort of lose themselves in, you know, sort of technology driven pleasure

01:10:49.260 to the point where they don't do anything more with their lives.

01:10:52.460 I think if you combine a lot of the AI we already have today with universal basic income

01:10:59.040 to the extent where you don't have to work in order to live, that a lot of people will

01:11:05.580 just basically die through inaction and just living out their lives in fantasy scenarios.

01:11:13.460 You don't need high tech.

01:11:14.920 You don't need full immersion haptic suits.

01:11:17.900 You don't need virtual reality and virtual worlds to get lost in AI driven tech already.

01:11:24.880 And you're seeing people losing themselves in these literally just losing themselves, not

01:11:29.140 not, not even to scenarios as, as deep as yours, where you're trying to take over the

01:11:35.240 world, but scenarios where people are just, you know, they're lower on Maslow's hierarchy

01:11:40.240 of needs and they are just lost with a partner forever, which is crazy.

01:11:47.340 I love this.

01:11:47.980 And you've given me a task for a scenario I want to do.

01:11:51.400 I want to find one of these ones where it's like a pizza girl comes to your house or something. 0.99

01:11:55.820 And she accidentally ate your pizza.

01:11:59.320 Oh no.

01:12:00.600 I grab her.

01:12:01.600 I like pull her in.

01:12:02.280 I'm like, okay, explain to me how the government works here.

01:12:04.880 What are the branches?

01:12:05.700 How does somebody, what are the major religious institutions?

01:12:10.440 Frankly, I need to know.

01:12:11.980 And she's like, but how do I make it up for the pizza that I'm eating?

01:12:15.940 But I'm stuck in the dryer.

01:12:17.740 And my shirt's so wet.

01:12:19.900 Can I just make it on?

01:12:21.100 The set sister skit here.

01:12:22.820 How are you stuck in the dryer?

01:12:24.420 But I need you to help me.

01:12:25.860 You're not stuck.

01:12:26.760 Just move forward.

01:12:28.600 See, that wasn't hard at all.

01:12:32.220 Stepbrother, I'm making sandwiches.

01:12:36.300 There's no ingredients out.

01:12:37.920 What do you mean?

01:12:38.400 What?

01:12:38.780 What do you need my help with this time?

01:12:41.480 I don't know how to cook pasta.

01:12:45.460 You need to help me.

01:12:46.720 You don't know how to cook pasta?

01:12:49.440 No.

01:12:49.940 Sarah, stop. 0.94

01:12:51.280 Let me put it in my mouth.

01:12:52.280 This?

01:12:52.720 No, it's a microphone. 1.00

01:12:54.140 You're going to get it wet and fuck it up. 1.00

01:12:55.820 It's not sexy. 1.00

01:12:57.240 You boil water and then put it in there, Sarah.

01:12:59.800 That's all you do.

01:13:02.440 I don't know where the water is.

01:13:07.660 I don't know how.

01:13:09.460 And I'm like, no, seriously, I need you to explain this to me. 0.93

01:13:12.520 And then she trips, but her boobs fall on your face. 1.00

01:13:18.160 You know, just. 0.98

01:13:20.540 I throw her off.

01:13:21.900 I'm like, quick, quick, quick.

01:13:24.220 We need to figure this out.

01:13:26.140 I would watch that anime.

01:13:27.760 I'd watch that anime so hard.

01:13:29.720 Actually, that would be a hilarious show.

01:13:31.780 It would be full of fan service.

01:13:33.360 Like, it would still be, you know, what any typical anime would be in this kind of scenario.

01:13:37.120 That would be so fun.

01:13:38.120 An Izeke scenario where the guy. 0.96

01:13:39.820 No, no, no.

01:13:40.180 Like a harem comedy Izeke. 0.89

01:13:41.760 Like.

01:13:41.980 Yeah, it's trying to take over the world.

01:13:44.320 But like all the girls are acting like typical harem comedy girls. 0.95

01:13:47.320 Yeah. 0.99

01:13:47.860 But like extra dumb versions of them. 0.99

01:13:49.940 Yeah. 0.99

01:13:50.240 You know, like.

01:13:51.620 And he's just increasingly frustrated that they don't understand how serious the scenario is.

01:13:56.280 Like a young daddy girl like helps him get really far in the government. 1.00

01:13:59.940 But she assumes that in the end it's because he's trying to pursue her.

01:14:02.980 And she's like, fine.

01:14:04.380 I'll admit it.

01:14:05.200 I love you.

01:14:05.700 And he's like, wait, no.

01:14:07.640 There is one anime that's sort of like this. 0.85

01:14:09.900 Except everyone isn't dumb.

01:14:11.140 And it's actually a great anime that I watched not long ago.

01:14:14.340 And it's called like.

01:14:15.920 I'll put it in post.

01:14:16.880 But it's called like.

01:14:18.000 The hero character is like very hardworking and diligent.

01:14:22.580 It's called how a realist hero rebuilt the kingdom.

01:14:25.440 And he just ends up like taking over the kingdoms like finances and taxes and stuff.

01:14:29.360 And it plays out very similar to one of the worlds.

01:14:31.160 And then Isekai.

01:14:31.960 So he comes from another world or.

01:14:33.480 Yeah.

01:14:33.580 He comes from another world.

01:14:34.820 And he's like.

01:14:35.720 Listen.

01:14:36.280 You don't understand.

01:14:37.280 I'm going to introduce you to depreciation.

01:14:39.640 It is going to change everything.

01:14:42.120 Yes.

01:14:42.500 Yes.

01:14:43.120 That's structured.

01:14:44.560 This is awesome.

01:14:46.100 You guys are going to love this.

01:14:47.540 Oh my gosh.

01:14:48.600 But seriously.

01:14:51.020 Fractional reserve banking.

01:14:53.000 Let me show you, buddy.

01:14:54.280 I know some of our audience is like.

01:14:56.000 Why would you introduce fractional reserve banking?

01:14:58.460 The funny thing about anime is like.

01:15:01.020 Literally there could be an anime about that.

01:15:02.700 There's an anime about Roman baths.

01:15:04.400 There's an anime about horse girls.

01:15:06.280 Yeah.

01:15:06.460 You can have an anime about fractional reserve banking.

01:15:09.360 It can happen.

01:15:10.620 Going off the gold.

01:15:11.500 In fact.

01:15:12.120 Wait.

01:15:12.620 Isn't there.

01:15:13.080 There is an anime about going off the gold standard.

01:15:15.680 Right?

01:15:16.660 Oh yeah.

01:15:17.420 That's Spice and Wolf. 0.89

01:15:18.700 Yes.

01:15:18.960 It has a plot line similar to that.

01:15:21.740 Great anime, by the way.

01:15:22.800 The original Spice and Wolf.

01:15:23.740 I haven't watched the new one.

01:15:24.660 But the original one is fantastic.

01:15:26.100 One of the best animes ever made.

01:15:27.780 And it's all about being a merchant.

01:15:30.000 With sexy wolf girls. 0.87

01:15:31.420 I mean.

01:15:32.680 You gotta add.

01:15:33.680 Sorry.

01:15:34.140 That's the way anime always is.

01:15:35.580 It's like.

01:15:36.020 The cool part of it.

01:15:37.500 And then the part that gets the nerd to watch the first five minutes of it.

01:15:40.920 Oh, somebody. 0.96

01:15:41.720 Oh, my boobs fell out. 0.83

01:15:42.800 Oh no. 0.90

01:15:43.540 Oh no.

01:15:43.940 My skirt.

01:15:44.920 Oh.

01:15:46.300 Oh, I love it so much.

01:15:48.120 But I'd really love to see a world done in this vampire system that I created.

01:15:51.860 Because I actually think it was a pretty compelling.

01:15:53.060 The blood rune based vampire system.

01:15:55.720 Yeah.

01:15:56.020 Well, where you.

01:15:57.220 It's an investigation of like what actually is causing the vampirism.

01:16:01.560 And then using that to control.

01:16:05.060 For a human to control the vampire society. 0.76

01:16:07.580 Which is much more fun than, you know, doing the whole vampire pathway and everything like that.

01:16:13.940 It hasn't gotten old for a lot of women. 1.00

01:16:16.800 The old vampire pathway.

01:16:18.420 You know.

01:16:18.780 Right.

01:16:19.040 Yeah.

01:16:19.180 They're just like.

01:16:20.160 It's just like.

01:16:20.640 No.

01:16:20.900 Bite me again, daddy. 0.75

01:16:21.820 Please.

01:16:22.700 Yeah. 0.98

01:16:22.800 I guess you don't need to masturbate that pathway. 0.99

01:16:24.860 Powerful man likes you. 0.99

01:16:26.060 You're just like.

01:16:26.700 Well.

01:16:28.160 I got that handle at home.

01:16:29.840 Which.

01:16:30.160 I mean.

01:16:30.500 What need could you possibly.

01:16:31.880 And this is interesting.

01:16:32.980 One of the things that actually is not that uncommon in these is wholesome family scenarios.

01:16:37.860 But like.

01:16:38.580 I find them pretty uncompelling.

01:16:40.000 Because I'm like.

01:16:40.740 I've tried playing them.

01:16:42.600 And I'm just.

01:16:42.920 Should they feel shallow?

01:16:43.640 Because I'm sure it's just kids being cute.

01:16:45.660 And kids are not their best when they're being cute.

01:16:48.280 They're their best when they're being crazy.

01:16:49.720 I've got that at home.

01:16:50.340 Like.

01:16:50.500 Why don't I just play with my own kids?

01:16:52.280 Yeah.

01:16:52.640 Like.

01:16:52.960 What I can't do with my own kids. 0.99

01:16:54.900 Is go around killing people. 0.99

01:16:56.740 You know. 0.95

01:16:58.600 But in a way that just feels so realistic.

01:17:01.540 Which is what you're going for.

01:17:03.320 You know.

01:17:03.740 Right.

01:17:04.120 The emotional impact.

01:17:05.280 You want to see them hurt.

01:17:06.700 As you twist the knife. 1.00

01:17:08.400 Well.

01:17:08.640 I find that very surprising.

01:17:10.640 Because I had realized.

01:17:12.000 I play games where you kill people all the time.

01:17:14.580 Well.

01:17:14.680 No.

01:17:14.920 I think the most interesting insight you had from that.

01:17:17.040 And this is really going to change the way that I look at human violence.

01:17:20.560 Is that.

01:17:21.200 Yeah. 0.88

01:17:21.560 Like with sex. 0.99

01:17:23.220 Both are kind of gross. 0.99

01:17:25.200 And distasteful. 0.93

01:17:26.760 And also.

01:17:27.240 They require physical exertion.

01:17:29.120 There's kind of nothing about them.

01:17:30.860 That fits with our normal defaults.

01:17:33.180 Of conserve energy.

01:17:34.680 Avoid yuck.

01:17:35.520 Avoid risk of infection.

01:17:36.820 Avoid risk of injury.

01:17:38.120 Both sex and violence against others.

01:17:40.500 Are just things that most of our intuitions run counter to.

01:17:43.800 So you're going to have to have some very strong instincts.

01:17:46.840 That would drive you to do things like that.

01:17:48.940 And this explains that male interest in violence.

01:17:51.260 Which is really interesting to me.

01:17:52.900 This does change.

01:17:53.840 So that's my big takeaway from this conversation.

01:17:56.200 It was really interesting.

01:17:57.560 Although it's also like a political career ruining thing to put out on the internet.

01:18:01.460 Go ahead and do it anyway. 0.99

01:18:02.380 Because I fucking hate politics. 0.99

01:18:04.420 Oh no. 0.99

01:18:04.780 No.

01:18:04.920 No.

01:18:05.300 This is going out uncensored.

01:18:06.940 This is going out.

01:18:08.160 It has to go out.

01:18:08.800 No. 0.94

01:18:08.820 Because I think people are done with these liar politicians. 0.90

01:18:12.260 No. 0.96

01:18:12.440 No.

01:18:12.660 I mean.

01:18:13.100 Yeah.

01:18:13.540 Like let's say that you know.

01:18:14.620 In someone like this scenario.

01:18:15.780 You find yourself running for president or vice president.

01:18:18.160 And you know.

01:18:18.420 The clip comes out.

01:18:19.080 And you're like. 1.00

01:18:19.400 I just love killing people. 0.99

01:18:20.640 It's just so fun. 0.98

01:18:21.380 But I want it to be realistic as possible.

01:18:23.900 You know.

01:18:24.320 People are going to watch that.

01:18:25.420 And they're going to be like.

01:18:25.960 I mean.

01:18:26.420 If they're male.

01:18:27.740 They're going to be like.

01:18:28.280 Right.

01:18:28.640 And I think a lot of women are like. 1.00

01:18:30.620 Yeah.

01:18:31.000 But I mean.

01:18:31.680 He's a guy.

01:18:32.460 Right.

01:18:32.760 Like he's just being honest.

01:18:34.620 Yeah.

01:18:34.780 I wish more men would just be honest.

01:18:36.480 Yeah.

01:18:36.600 The women who are going to be insulted by that. 1.00

01:18:39.080 And the men who are going to be insulted.

01:18:40.100 Wouldn't vote for you anyway.

01:18:41.560 Of course.

01:18:42.580 Yeah.

01:18:42.800 I have always got out there with.

01:18:44.980 And it's something I do in these scenarios as well.

01:18:46.860 With as much honesty as possible.

01:18:48.760 Yeah.

01:18:49.000 In every one of these conversations.

01:18:50.840 I mean.

01:18:51.000 The first thing I try to do.

01:18:52.020 Is find out what they want from life.

01:18:53.560 So I can help them achieve that.

01:18:55.280 No.

01:18:55.540 And I think that's the other side of the coin.

01:18:57.520 You know.

01:18:57.680 The fact that you can't even watch live action porn. 0.94

01:18:59.760 Because you're like.

01:19:00.560 You feel bad for people.

01:19:02.400 It shows that.

01:19:03.440 You know.

01:19:03.640 This is.

01:19:04.340 You are aware of your instincts.

01:19:05.880 And you're also mentally a person. 0.56

01:19:07.980 Who's extremely.

01:19:09.120 More empathetic than I am.

01:19:10.960 And more concerned.

01:19:12.620 About human well-being than I am.

01:19:14.100 I mean.

01:19:14.240 The way you react to things.

01:19:15.520 You know.

01:19:17.100 Well.

01:19:17.420 Yeah.

01:19:17.920 You know the whole.

01:19:18.760 Malcolm.

01:19:19.300 Like hiding his face thing.

01:19:20.740 Whenever something.

01:19:21.960 Too gruesome happens.

01:19:23.020 I'm like.

01:19:23.300 I don't want to.

01:19:24.060 Yeah.

01:19:24.420 Especially if it's in a real world environment.

01:19:25.820 I absolutely cannot stand that.

01:19:27.160 It doesn't bother me in movies.

01:19:28.160 But in real world environments.

01:19:29.420 Or when I know it's the filming of a real world.

01:19:31.180 But most interesting to me.

01:19:33.040 And it shows how empathetic and caring you are.

01:19:35.100 Which is unexpected for me.

01:19:37.020 Which is what I find interesting.

01:19:38.100 It's not a gross out thing.

01:19:39.340 It's not like I'm going to hurl.

01:19:40.760 It's.

01:19:41.200 It's only scenarios.

01:19:42.700 In which you know someone.

01:19:44.640 Someone alive is being hurt.

01:19:46.640 So you're able to deal with cadavers all the time.

01:19:48.940 And you did.

01:19:49.740 When you were doing your medical training.

01:19:51.060 It wasn't the gross out factor.

01:19:52.760 Because I couldn't deal with cadavers.

01:19:54.300 But it's literally knowing that someone else is in pain.

01:19:56.860 Or that their life is not going in a good direction.

01:19:59.040 And I think that that.

01:20:00.340 Speaks to your interest in human flourishing.

01:20:02.420 In the end.

01:20:02.680 Which is again.

01:20:03.180 Like this is why I love you so much.

01:20:04.880 Is that you are willing.

01:20:06.720 To publicly be portrayed.

01:20:08.660 As a supervillain.

01:20:10.280 Terrible.

01:20:10.860 Non-empathetic. 1.00

01:20:11.680 Child abuser.

01:20:12.580 Etcetera. 0.89

01:20:13.060 Right?

01:20:13.700 Except like deep down.

01:20:15.000 You're like the person who's like publicly.

01:20:16.400 Like yeah.

01:20:16.800 I'm the evil guy. 0.89

01:20:17.660 I'm the baddie.

01:20:18.340 And then like deep down inside.

01:20:19.540 You're like.

01:20:20.300 I can't watch someone get hurt. 0.72

01:20:22.120 I can't watch porn with real people.

01:20:23.680 Because what?

01:20:24.620 What?

01:20:25.020 What about their life prospects?

01:20:26.600 You know?

01:20:27.020 It's really sweet.

01:20:28.400 Well an interesting thing about this.

01:20:31.200 For people who don't have this particular empathy impulse.

01:20:33.980 Because I notice that some people don't.

01:20:36.000 The way it ends up being felt.

01:20:38.140 Is typically I will feel pain.

01:20:40.060 Wherever I am seeing somebody else feel pain.

01:20:42.660 Yeah.

01:20:42.820 You'll immediately grab that arm.

01:20:44.460 Or that part of your body.

01:20:45.960 Yeah.

01:20:46.300 Yeah.

01:20:46.720 Which is very interesting.

01:20:47.960 And your mirror neurons are intense.

01:20:50.220 Yeah.

01:20:50.400 For people who don't know this is caused by mirror neurons.

01:20:52.840 It's something that we can see in fMRIs.

01:20:54.900 When most people witness somebody else being injured.

01:20:58.580 The neurons associated with pain in that area will activate in them.

01:21:02.540 I wonder if autistic people don't feel that the same way.

01:21:04.720 Probably not.

01:21:06.000 Yeah.

01:21:06.300 It might be that you don't feel.

01:21:07.700 You don't have this mirror neuron.

01:21:09.180 I've not.

01:21:09.500 I've not experienced that.

01:21:12.060 So probably not.

01:21:13.840 But that's why also like you have to teach autistic people to read other people's faces. 0.85

01:21:18.320 Right?

01:21:18.560 Yeah.

01:21:18.820 But it is.

01:21:19.440 It is.

01:21:19.880 This has been a fascinating experience for me.

01:21:22.440 And I'll likely do another episode someday on various other worlds I end up creating in this.

01:21:26.700 Because I find them really interesting.

01:21:29.020 And it allows me to have these big narrative environments that are, you know, pretty fun.

01:21:34.020 Yeah.

01:21:35.060 Well, I'm back to what I was saying earlier.

01:21:37.620 So excited to use these as an educational tool for our kids.

01:21:40.840 Because I loved as a kid in my history classes exploring history through narrative books.

01:21:45.800 But this is so much better. 0.97

01:21:47.500 When it's not a dumb character doing it. 0.84

01:21:49.420 But you, you going through those scenarios and finding the constraints yourself. 0.73

01:21:54.280 That is how you engage with history.

01:21:56.120 Yes.

01:21:56.440 I mean, this is so cool.

01:21:57.820 Like, literally.

01:21:58.460 Because our imagination is so powerful.

01:22:00.020 And even more when you're a kid.

01:22:02.620 To actually be, to go back in time, in a time machine.

01:22:06.340 And just have a go at it.

01:22:07.940 You know, we always imagine that, right?

01:22:09.520 Like, well, what would it be like?

01:22:10.600 But it was hard to imagine those scenarios in like a fantasy standpoint or a daydreaming standpoint.

01:22:14.780 Because we don't know what people wore.

01:22:17.420 We don't know what we're wearing.

01:22:18.420 We don't know what the food is like.

01:22:19.460 We don't know what the environment is like.

01:22:21.500 And that's where the AI comes in.

01:22:23.580 So it really facilitates.

01:22:24.940 Oh, my gosh.

01:22:26.040 Our kids are so lucky.

01:22:26.920 They have all the nice things.

01:22:28.100 Oh, they are so lucky.

01:22:29.120 Well, we got to hope they don't get addicted to, you know, Victorian England and never want to unplug.

01:22:34.900 Right?

01:22:35.140 Like, well, I love being Lord Dyerson.

01:22:39.620 Dyerson.

01:22:41.280 Dyerson.

01:22:41.860 I like that.

01:22:43.600 Now, I want to name one of our dogs Lord Dyerson.

01:22:45.860 But that's not the naming convention.

01:22:47.460 I think the next one's going to be the Commodore or the Captain or something.

01:22:51.020 Lord Bramblebun.

01:22:53.540 Lord Dyerson is better.

01:22:55.180 Speaking of our kids, one is about to get off the bus.

01:22:59.060 Did you not have Stacey?

01:23:00.500 I did not ask her about that.

01:23:01.440 She's sick today.

01:23:02.420 So I was like, I don't want to.

01:23:03.240 Okay, I'll go get him right now.

01:23:05.600 I'll go.

01:23:06.060 We're going to end this podcast.

01:23:07.360 We'll get him.

01:23:08.240 And then we'll do one more after.

01:23:09.500 Exactly.

01:23:09.920 This is a really fun podcast.

01:23:11.120 I really enjoyed this.

01:23:12.040 I know it's an indulgent one.

01:23:12.940 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

01:23:14.380 This is so pathetic. 0.98

01:23:15.860 But, you know, we've gone on dates where we, like, throw down, you know, a bunch of money on drinks and dinner and stuff and go somewhere special. 0.99

01:23:22.540 This is horrible.

01:23:24.600 But this is so much better than that.

01:23:25.960 I feel like both of us are saying this to each other.

01:23:28.260 And it seems so insulting, like, that scene in Legally Blonde where she's like, remember those, like, amazing four hours we spent in the hot tub?

01:23:34.880 This is so much better.

01:23:36.520 But, like, our podcast conversations really are.

01:23:39.580 And it's horrible to say that.

01:23:41.400 But it's true.

01:23:42.940 I absolutely agree.

01:23:44.580 And I love it.

01:23:45.220 And I also, I'm really interested.

01:23:46.720 Like, in the future, I love that people will be like, newspapers will try to run with things I've said.

01:23:51.740 But I want to ensure that the things I've said are so crazy that when they try to run with them, people are like, wait, he just said he likes killing people in simulated environments?

01:24:01.340 Maybe, but only when it's really realistic, you know, because killing people in video games.

01:24:05.060 I want to hear more of what this guy is saying.

01:24:07.040 Well, I think the other thing about, you know, people doing opposition research on us is they're just, there's so much.

01:24:12.480 I almost feel like people are going to, you know, you're going to do something high profile and the oppo research people are going to start and they're just going to be like, I don't want to do this.

01:24:20.500 There's too much.

01:24:21.540 Like, I, you know, normally, like, an opposition research gets one thing and they're like, oh, well, here's this, like, mildly homophobic thing this person once said.

01:24:28.980 Like, with Tim Walls, for example, like, in one speech, he kind of alluded to using weapons on the field of battle when he really didn't ever, you know, use weapons on the field of battle.

01:24:39.900 Like, this one tiny thing and then they run with that and they're like, oh, we have our thing.

01:24:43.440 Whereas, like, with us, it's one of those things where, like, no one knows what to say.

01:24:47.260 So, like, what consistent story are they going to choose?

01:24:49.240 Yeah, they're like, do I need to keep this up to be a believable attack?

01:24:52.040 Is it the fact that he, like, that he bops his children or is it going to be the fact that he wants to, that he enjoys killing people in fantasy scenarios?

01:24:59.060 Like, where are we going to go with this?

01:25:00.780 You know, like, you know, yeah, it's going to be interesting.

01:25:04.480 I just, I think it's going to be too much and they're just going to not bother.

01:25:07.040 They're going to not bother.

01:25:07.980 No, they're going to, they're going to choose the wrong thing.

01:25:09.900 They're either going to go too tame or too over the top.

01:25:12.140 The guy that I'm running against in our district is just like, well, I'm just going to run on my record. 0.99

01:25:16.520 Oh, shit, we have to go. 0.99

01:25:17.640 Sorry. 1.00

01:25:18.140 We have to go.

01:25:18.440 Yeah, because he doesn't want to, you know, there's nothing like, where would he start?

01:25:23.720 It would be too much work.

01:25:24.580 Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, cha-cha.

Based Camp - September 05, 2024

A Chat AI Addiction Transformed the Way I Understand Our Reality

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