Based Camp - A Novel Argument Against Atheism： How AI Makes the Denial of God Very Hard

00:00:00.000 hello simone today we are going to do an interesting episode i've been getting a little

00:00:04.640 sick of just doing politics all the time so we are going to do a novel argument against atheism

00:00:09.960 oh yes screw atheism and this is an argument i had never heard before and i probably would

00:00:17.080 have found compelling as a young atheist when contrast it was the arguments that were actually

00:00:22.180 delivered against me at it from such a novel direction that would have leaned in to my

00:00:29.920 presumptions as an atheist around logic oh oh yeah because you have to you can't i think the

00:00:37.640 problem with a lot of christian influencers both in like the early atheist internet and even now

00:00:42.660 are only speaking in like christian terms like they're not they're not they're not getting to

00:00:47.480 the other side and getting in the mind of the atheist who's being hyper rational instead they're

00:00:51.980 like they're literally i don't know if you know about this but on tiktok christian influencers

00:00:56.960 are like don't scroll the devil wants you to scroll and they're also like they'll turn on

00:01:02.140 their phone and then they'll like banish demons but they're using like the same kind of language that

00:01:06.420 that would be used if you're like telling your cat not to be on the table like hey get out

00:01:11.240 get out get out get get and it's like nobody's not going to convince non-believers you're not using 0.66

00:01:18.960 any terms that are going to work for them the arguments that i heard against atheism when i was

00:01:23.820 younger or for or for theological framings when i was younger were predominantly like one of like

00:01:29.780 four arguments okay so i had a pre-established or a counter argument every time i was given one of

00:01:36.640 them your auto response well it's not just auto response it's obviously i had thought through each

00:01:41.980 of them a lot before advancement on an argument i've already heard now this is also an interesting

00:01:47.700 thing about this particular argument against atheism there's no counter argument to most religious

00:01:53.860 people oh that's good oh gosh i'm so intrigued a religious person would think of only an atheist

00:01:59.840 would think of this argument what but then they become religious so they'd be not an atheist anymore

00:02:05.200 definitially but they wouldn't be a standard religious but then as a religious person they

00:02:08.400 would still find the argument repugnant what is the argument okay okay so we'll go into it

00:02:13.380 oh so one of three potential futures exists and only one of three potential futures exists really

00:02:20.300 okay okay in future number one humanity and our descendants die out we we go extinct then the

00:02:27.200 universe ends as far as we understand physics right now sure okay possibility number two so this is

00:02:33.420 universe type two humanity stagnates the universe ends up ending and our existence what's largely

00:02:39.760 pointless because we just stagnant we never really develop in any meaningful context yeah just sort

00:02:44.940 of uh a big bang to entropy meh yes yeah possibility number three humanity and humanity's children

00:02:54.120 are you the things that we develop end up continuing to grow improve and evolve all right endless

00:03:02.460 complexity beautiful pattern endless complexity we don't know exactly what happens in this reality

00:03:07.340 in this future because we don't know if it relates to physics the way we relate to physics i know that

00:03:13.380 if humanity stagnates they continue to relate to physics the way but if humanity continues to advance

00:03:19.560 are they able to create parallel dimensions are they able to travel between realities are they able to

00:03:25.720 start new dimensions are they able to restructure we don't know what this would be like all we know is

00:03:32.120 that it's continued advancement and the way i say there's the only three potential futures is because

00:03:36.820 they sort of cover any possible reality i can think of either death stagnation or advancement even if you

00:03:45.680 have advancement tainted by a lot of stagnation it's still advancement yes right so that's often what

00:03:52.060 advancement looks like you're going to fall into one of these scenarios yeah now if we live in a timeline

00:03:59.880 type one or two i.e a timeline where humanity all is extinguished or a timeline where humanity is

00:04:10.120 stagnant our decisions today don't matter to the future sure okay yeah obviously with that being

00:04:20.420 the now now a person could be like oh but timelines aren't set our decisions may influence which of these

00:04:26.540 timelines we are in right and i'm like okay i will buy that possibility if that is possible then all of

00:04:35.520 our actions today should be made with one of two optimizations in mind to try to nudge us to a timeline

00:04:44.860 type three and to try to influence for positive outcomes where positive outcomes can mean whatever you

00:04:51.580 think they want to mean we'll talk about this in a second was in a timeline type three okay basically

00:04:57.080 you never need to make a decision like like if i'm saying should i do x or y if i am assuming that it

00:05:06.120 is fated that i am in a timeline type one or two a timeline where humanity goes extinct or a timeline

00:05:11.880 where humanity stagnates because my decision doesn't impact the future now i.e i guess this is a

00:05:18.380 different way you can think of it if somebody tells you that you know you're in a room by yourself

00:05:22.820 right like you could do anything and somebody's like an asteroid is going to come and destroy earth

00:05:30.040 tomorrow there's nothing you can do about it at this point you do not get moral points for giving to

00:05:36.800 charity you do not get moral points for going out and i mean you might get like some sort of marginal

00:05:43.760 moral point from like going out and being nice to people but probably not really your actions just

00:05:48.480 don't matter from that point forwards that much from a moral weight perspective you especially if

00:05:55.120 you take out any action that doesn't affect anyone else and i'll explain this a bit differently so

00:06:00.360 we'll use a train analogy here suppose you know that three trains are heading for a cliff okay one train

00:06:07.620 is red one train is blue one train is yellow the interior of every one of these trains is set up the

00:06:15.540 same and looks the same and in the middle of each of the trains is a button you know that in yellow trains

00:06:22.680 this button stops the train and it doesn't end up going off the cliff okay okay what do you do if you

00:06:31.760 don't know which train you're in you act assuming you are in a yellow train yeah you've got to push

00:06:36.500 the button yeah your metaphysical framework of reality presumes the yellow train because that

00:06:42.440 is the only reality in which your future matters now suppose and this is where it's like okay what

00:06:48.500 if we're not in set timelines and we are instead able to influence the future heavily through our

00:06:53.900 decisions like able to influence when i say influence the future i mean influence which one of

00:06:57.080 these timelines we happen to be in suppose it turns out that like the amount you pray

00:07:01.140 makes it more probable you're in a yellow train so then you do two things you both hit the button

00:07:06.300 and spend the entire time praying that you're in a yellow train even if it's only a marginal shift

00:07:11.880 you're still going to do that so your choice of actions is clear regardless which train you are

00:07:18.460 actually in okay okay now we're going to go to the second part of the argument here so basically

00:07:24.820 the the first presumption is is you should always presume in terms of your actions your thoughts

00:07:30.080 metaphysical understanding of larger reality unless you have proof otherwise that we that it is at

00:07:36.820 least possible for you and your actions to push humanity into a timeline where we and our descendants

00:07:44.080 continue to improve change and advance whatever that means it doesn't mean anything specific but just

00:07:49.780 this continued improvement timeline next with advancements in things like ai and genetic engineering

00:07:57.340 if humanity and our descendants continue to advance if i think like where is humans like what is a human

00:08:04.820 going to be like 50 years from now like even my kids kids yeah okay these kids kids they're almost

00:08:12.020 certainly going to be some degree of genetically modified they're going to be some degree of interconnected with ai

00:08:19.580 and interacting with a german editing is already legal in south africa i mean this is we're here

00:08:26.040 yeah so i expect and people can be like yeah but a lot of cultures won't accept this type of advancement of

00:08:34.340 humanity and it's like the problem is is that the cultures that do accept it will be able to beat them

00:08:39.980 yeah if one society uh refuses to continue advancing ai or refuses genetic augmentation of humans and it

00:08:48.120 tries to impose its will on a society that is using this technology that's going to be very very hard

00:08:54.200 especially after a few generations of using this technology yes so what this means is that in 200-300

00:09:02.160 years humans are probably going to look very different think very differently than humans do today

00:09:06.100 the question now would be okay what if we're not talking hundreds of years we're talking

00:09:11.560 thousands tens of thousands millions of years okay what does humanity look like

00:09:19.160 millions of years from now and to an atheist who believes we're in a timeline where their decisions

00:09:26.820 end up actually mattering to the future i.e. one in which we continue to advance i think it is

00:09:32.320 very hard and it begins to just look like implausible and require like weird sci-fi stuff to happen

00:09:40.560 like you you basically need to add mcguffins to propose a future in which humanity a million years

00:09:48.220 from now isn't closer to what the religious call a god than what you would call a human for sure and

00:09:57.080 when i talk about what the religious call a god they're like come on that won't be true okay let's talk

00:10:01.720 about like most gods in like the dominant religious traditions today right what are some of the things

00:10:08.260 that these entities can do well they're already largely things we can do they're already largely

00:10:14.020 things but i'm thinking like just like a hundred years from now okay they are entities that you can

00:10:17.920 beseech they can listen to your prayers and they can augment probabilities of future outcomes

00:10:22.140 well an ai lattice around earth might be able to do that in a hundred years in 200 years like

00:10:27.920 that's that's a near-term thing they're like oh well they're entities that can give you an afterlife

00:10:32.980 we don't seem to be that far from being able to i mean i think at the very latest 500 years being

00:10:40.200 able to digitize humans into either positive or negatively coded in terms of qualia afterlives

00:10:46.180 so we're pretty well that was a major plot point of surface detail the in banks film that people's

00:10:53.260 consciousnesses essentially were being digitized and then governments were basically saying and

00:10:57.080 using as like a carrot or stick thing like we will put your consciousness in in a digital hell

00:11:01.880 that is worse than anything you could ever imagine if you are anything from like an actually bad person

00:11:07.640 in life to a political dissident that that is and that is entirely i mean and of course you might

00:11:13.880 decide that your consciousness sort of ends with your biological being but like again this is getting a

00:11:19.160 little you know that's very i don't think that many atheists would think that i think they think

00:11:24.860 like well if it's yeah then it's just a copy of like the way that i think so i don't again we're

00:11:29.700 not we're not talking this isn't an argument for religious people this is an argument for atheists

00:11:33.160 yeah so if we're saying that we can emulate most of the abilities of of of the mainstream gods not in

00:11:41.580 a million years but in like 300 years um to to say that we wouldn't be in every meaningful sense

00:11:51.180 like gods in 10 million years and when i say like gods it's like what where's the functional difference

00:11:57.300 here it's very similar where what's the functional difference between the emergent properties of your

00:12:02.960 brain and a soul if in the past when people use the word soul they meant all of that thinking stuff

00:12:08.680 and now we can just describe how that thinking stuff works are we talking about something

00:12:13.940 meaningfully different than what they were talking about no the only way it's different is when

00:12:18.620 individuals today are like well i want to add some additional properties that we can't account for

00:12:23.880 with evidence or with predictability and those are the things i'm calling a skull a soul basically

00:12:29.300 you're creating a soul of the gaps you the atheists now are creating a god of the gaps where you are 0.94

00:12:34.680 saying well even though this entity or these entities may functionally fit all of the definitional

00:12:39.740 requirements of a god i am defining them as not a god because they are not supernatural and it's like

00:12:46.460 well then you now are subject to the very fallacy you accuse c of being subject to yeah

00:12:54.380 but here is where they'll get me they'll say wait wait wait you said a god not a society of gods

00:13:02.900 why would i presume a god exists in the future right instead of like a whole civilization of gods

00:13:09.440 well here is a truism of human technological development so far as humans technologically

00:13:18.000 develop our thought processes or in humanity more broadly becomes more interconnected specifically we

00:13:26.000 have and this is like all of the big technological breakthroughs you know you get better navigation with

00:13:30.380 boats and you can travel more and you get a more sophisticated society or roman road systems

00:13:35.180 created more interconnectedness or early books in writing allowed us to communicate across generations

00:13:41.160 you get the printing press which led to a big jump you get and a lot of people don't realize how big this

00:13:47.060 was trains it used to be it took days to get to any other city or weeks to get to another city

00:13:52.240 yeah and now you could go for a pittance overnight and this was such a big deal for people they were

00:13:57.540 like is it is it safe for a human body to travel at such speeds like they weren't sure they were

00:14:04.240 really not sure yeah well and societally we were unsure of what effects this would have like what

00:14:08.500 happens when it's no longer a multi-week journey from you forget from one city for another city you

00:14:13.940 know what if ideas travel too fast but now you know we have roads and interstates and airplanes but

00:14:20.240 what have been the major technological developments recently oh things like cell phones well the

00:14:25.020 telegraph phones cell phones the internet and i think that in a way ai is the accumulation of the

00:14:32.260 speed of communication probably about equivalent to the invention of writing yeah probably bigger than

00:14:37.900 printing press i'd say ai is about equivalent to the invention of the first human writing in terms of

00:14:42.460 human communication i mean a new way to store and transmit human created knowledge here's the problem

00:14:50.240 if we continue to develop this way if you instead of presuming that humanity is going to go in a

00:14:56.780 direction that humanity has never gone historically towards less connectedness if we continue to move

00:15:02.480 towards more connectedness and i'm going to assume an interplanetary level now now this becomes a bit

00:15:07.620 more interesting if you're talking about multiple planets but within a planet that almost certainly

00:15:11.480 means that by the time of my grandchildren i am almost certain there will be a internet i call it the

00:15:19.820 omeganet an internet of consciousnesses that will exist within this planet and and and at least within

00:15:25.680 500 years i mean we're already looking if you look at brain computer interface technology today

00:15:30.600 we can already create direct connections between people's brains where i can put a brain computer

00:15:36.640 interface chip in one person's brain and they can communicate directly with another person's brain

00:15:40.420 however the communication is very rudimentary at this point it's it's coming from like a central point in

00:15:45.440 one person's brain to a central point in another person's brain it is not effective it is not easier

00:15:49.560 than voice-to-voice communication but do i expect it to eventually be faster than voice-to-voice

00:15:55.280 communication i think you need to argue for macguffins like spice or you need to argue for like

00:16:02.720 what's the the whatever jihad from dune where like no technological development is allowed anymore

00:16:07.960 the butlerian jihad yeah the butlerian jihad or you need to argue you basically need to argue like

00:16:13.000 some big change happens in civilizational history that prevents this from coming to exist and i i don't

00:16:20.260 see any importance of that at all right now so what it is although i understand why this wasn't an

00:16:26.900 argument in 1990s atheist internet and that's because we had no idea that i was going to have this

00:16:33.800 came brain explosion that we're seeing right now this changes everything like our timeline is not

00:16:40.320 what i expected it to be even with ray kurzweil being like the singularity is near i'm like eh

00:16:45.980 keep crying mister like it's a nice dream but oh my gosh you know yeah so what i mean this argument

00:16:53.480 is is so coming from an atheist perspective of a theist you you can get where i'm going with this but

00:16:58.980 you know it's a theist is never going to come up with this argument yeah because it is based on

00:17:03.640 an unexpected and sudden technological shift in trajectories and not based on like well everyone

00:17:09.400 knows that there was always a god like the the the typical christian arguments that i see online are

00:17:15.960 like trying to show evidence of there having always been this ancient god and like look back to the

00:17:20.880 history and look back to what jesus said and look back to the prophets and the saints and miracles and

00:17:26.800 that's just not going to get an atheist you're right but atheists are oh they're able to bring through

00:17:32.220 the knock-on effects of a technological revolution and see where the technical technological revolution

00:17:39.020 has us today well it also requires them to make big logical jumps to defend atheism at this point

00:17:45.580 because here you're you're having to argue for completely implausible things for an atheist position

00:17:51.620 to be the most logical position uh by the time i get to the end of this argument like you need to argue

00:17:56.260 for a decrease in human interconnectivity suddenly you are the less atheist of the atheist you are now

00:18:03.060 assuming fantasy yeah how dare you have faith so the best arguments are those that hoist people by

00:18:09.860 their own petards right like you want that um yes so if interconnectedness continues to increase

00:18:17.620 and i suspect it will even increase to the point where essentially all sub processes within our brains are

00:18:24.260 directly connected to the omega net and we lose some degree of individuality because it's it's just the

00:18:30.720 way that we process and interact with reality now i don't mean this in a way that we permanently like

00:18:35.260 whatever humanity becomes permanently loses the capability for individuality i mean it in the way

00:18:41.200 that you go on the internet in the morning and you can leave the internet at night which is to say that

00:18:45.320 the individual parts of your personality or brain may prefer being parts of these different larger holes

00:18:53.460 rather than yourself within these environments and i suspect people will be able to separate from

00:18:59.720 these environments at will however these types of separations may not even meaningfully understand

00:19:06.440 a person as an individual it might be collections that separate it may even be connections of collections

00:19:12.340 of certain sub processes within your brain within like i have a sub process within my brain that's

00:19:17.480 dedicated to like dedicated to like one thing and like a huge collection of these has formed an identity

00:19:22.700 as an entity across like 10 000 people's brains and one day it decides it wants to act as an individual

00:19:29.540 and so it prints a body and it goes out acting like an individual you know what individualism means will

00:19:35.740 likely be something very different to omega net entities than they are to modern humans now because of that

00:19:44.860 it would be at least if we're talking on a planetary scale meaningless to call something a collection of

00:19:54.000 gods it is meaningfully a single god and then people can be like oh come on so you're saying that there's

00:20:01.240 inevitable god and this god is like a collection of entities and like a singular entity but also like

00:20:10.900 individual man but they're all of those things simultaneously like religion never predicted a

00:20:18.580 trinity like that or something that that would be absurd and i'm like oh okay yeah the trinity that's

00:20:24.400 exactly a very good analogy for what how we should understand the future entities plurality which is to

00:20:31.340 say it is both plural and singular and to try to pin it down as either while in a christian context they

00:20:37.860 would have called the sacrilege in my context i just say it is illogical it's a misunderstanding of

00:20:42.960 the entity um so now it goes further so then the individual says okay okay okay

00:20:49.620 i buy that this well first let's talk about multi-planetary systems you might end up with

00:20:58.800 different omega nets for different planets or we might get faster than light travel and reality folding

00:21:05.320 in which case you wouldn't get that i suspect we will but it just depends um regardless within a

00:21:13.680 planetary or you might even not have people living on different planets which you might have as they

00:21:18.500 build out from a single planet because it turns out that we can create matter or giant floating cities

00:21:23.700 in space or like that's just the easier way to spread i don't know but there's lots of ways that

00:21:28.340 this could turn out and we just don't know at this point but but that godlike entities will exist

00:21:33.440 when i say godlike i mean indistinguishable from god except for the fact that they actually exist

00:21:39.120 is an inevitability at this point to an atheist that thinks that a good timeline is possible

00:21:45.120 now before i get to anything else anything you want to say to this

00:21:48.080 no but i am hoping for the culture as described by ian banks uh that's what i'm going for here

00:21:56.780 fingers crossed basically each each ai each ship is kind of like a godlike entity and its ability to

00:22:04.460 do things and things splinter and there's there's difference there's not like one giant borg which

00:22:12.200 would be boring well you think it would be boring because you would see it as more uniform

00:22:16.960 and i assume it's probably not that uniform it's probably quite well we'll get to that in a who

00:22:23.120 knows yeah i don't think that we can conceive of it i think it's no definitely this is beyond us this

00:22:28.760 is totally beyond us now it was the concept of you know a christian god a muslim god a whatever god

00:22:33.960 even like buddhist and and other conceptions of god they're you're not supposed to be able to

00:22:38.680 understand it in any way yeah so now the atheist says okay okay okay this entity will come to exist

00:22:47.900 but why should i act like a god exists today this is an entity that's going to exist in the future

00:22:55.800 in any timeline where my actions and decisions matter and here's the problem if this entity comes to exist

00:23:04.720 and this entity is and you can try to presume what its morals will be but its morals will almost

00:23:09.440 certainly be above what your morals are because it will have better self-control than you have and

00:23:14.500 better processing than you have will it have the capacity to pass judgment on you and treat you in

00:23:21.540 the way a god would based on that judgment will it have the capacity to recreate human civilization

00:23:29.320 in an ai will it in an ai lattice will it have the capacity to infinitely punish anyone it believes

00:23:35.620 deserving of infinite punishment will it have the capacity to infinitely reward anyone it believes

00:23:41.720 should have infinite rewards of course it will are we getting into you thinking your life is a

00:23:46.820 simulation right now well i've mentioned this before which is i i i think it's already implausible

00:23:53.080 a little implausible this one and i don't live in a simulation because our lives are too good

00:23:57.380 whoever was creating the simulation that was supposed to reward me for whatever i did in a

00:24:01.440 past life it's not believable i'm one of those people who keeps waking up in the matrix did you

00:24:05.500 know that the first matrix was designed to be a perfect human world it was a disaster no one would

00:24:14.640 accept the program entire crops were lost which is why the matrix was redesigned to the peak of

00:24:23.320 civilization i say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it became

00:24:29.320 our civilization i'm like no too good and i'm like screw it i want this day i don't want to wake up

00:24:35.980 don't wake me up this is perfect challenge level perfect i love all of this this is the best there

00:24:41.640 is there is not a single living human i would switch my life with people like oh would you switch

00:24:45.320 with elon not a chance i wouldn't switch with elon i mean well i guess he would keep it because he

00:24:49.640 knows that he has this amazing influence and impact but it's not like he has chosen the happiest path

00:24:53.800 by any stretch of the imagination and he made that very clear yeah would i switch with trump no no who

00:24:59.720 would i switch with nobody no i i like i really can't imagine anyone else either this is this is

00:25:06.160 perfect yeah would you switch with anyone is there any living woman or man no no or living or dead no

00:25:12.840 no yeah which to me is implausible why why do i have the best life i can imagine yeah that seems like

00:25:21.620 it's being given to me as a reward for something i did in this time i wonder if most people living in

00:25:26.180 alignment with their values feel this way that way yeah maybe i see that more i see more hints of that

00:25:35.560 in people who are they know what they believe and why and their entire life is properly oriented around

00:25:42.600 that then yeah those people seem like they wouldn't switch places with anyone no matter what

00:25:46.300 they've been dealt but i don't know shout out in the comments i guess let us know if you feel like

00:25:53.200 you are also in a simulation and or if you would switch your life with anyone oh and if you would

00:25:58.500 switch your life with someone who would it be like famous public figures i'm really curious to know

00:26:03.540 who people actually want to be because i watch a lot of online commentary and there's not a lot of like

00:26:09.380 oh i wish i were them like some people like well i wish i had that person's nose or their clothing or

00:26:13.980 their wealth or their house but never like they want to be them because there's also this it's very

00:26:19.340 common to like criticize people and see their error so i'm curious what people yeah so an individual

00:26:24.220 here might be like okay at me atheist okay i agree with you in timelines where my decisions matter

00:26:30.360 god or god does eventually come to exist but that i would be beneath that god like my decisions

00:26:37.380 wouldn't matter to that god right so why why do i need to take the time to like cognitively deal

00:26:43.940 with the fact that i live in a reality where a god comes to exist and then the the problem here is is

00:26:50.560 no what you are now saying is i believe in a god i just think i believe i am subject to the whims of a god

00:26:58.580 like a god could conceivably reward or punish me i just don't think that god that exists that's coming

00:27:05.520 to exist cares about me and i'm like fine but you still believe in a god now you still believe in a

00:27:13.080 god could punish or reward you and will come into existence you just are the person who today believes

00:27:20.220 in a god and says yeah but it's a god of a clockwork universe and isn't paying attention to me

00:27:24.140 so now you are a theist functionally speaking you just don't think god cares about you so an individual

00:27:32.140 now is like okay okay okay i guess i'm functionally a theist and that i believe that i should be making

00:27:38.120 decisions with the assumption that we live in a timeline where a god eventually will come to exist

00:27:43.920 who would have the capacity to pass judgment on me or i would but probably won't right because my

00:27:51.500 decisions don't matter or that's not the way a god would act or something like that and and now i'm

00:27:56.080 like okay well now we have to deal with a few other logical problems with your position now that

00:28:02.340 you've accepted this plausibility so you believe that this super intelligent entity exists in the

00:28:07.940 future this super powerful basically omniscient entity or about as omniscient as a christian or

00:28:13.400 jewish god in most contextualizations because they're often not that omniscient they're like

00:28:17.640 kind of omniscient but like bordering this entity would probably be more omniscient than they're

00:28:22.860 portrayed in the bible and you can go over our whole techno puritan thing where we actually argue

00:28:27.140 that this entity probably does exist and is the entity that's being described in the bible and can

00:28:31.840 project itself backwards in time because time doesn't it doesn't relate to the physical constraints

00:28:36.400 of our universe in the way that we do because it's so super powerful we'll note here if your

00:28:40.920 understanding of what is in the biblical text isn't from actually reading them and from people telling

00:28:45.440 you what's in them this is going to sound a lot crazier than if you have read them for example

00:28:50.240 daniel 244 says pretty explicitly that the kingdom of god is in the future it is something that will

00:28:56.400 come to exist at a future date or in jewish eschatology you can talk about olam haba which

00:29:03.740 translates to the world to come which is how they talk about god's kingdom the world to come or within

00:29:10.960 christian eschatology when they talk about the resurrection of people in the future in the kingdom of god

00:29:17.480 does that not sound a lot like people being brought back in a simulation which could in many ways be

00:29:25.080 more real than our existing world i mean people are like oh well a simulation isn't real because it is

00:29:31.440 operating on the background code of the simulation like those are the rules that is driving it and i'm like

00:29:37.440 yeah well then how is that any different from the physical laws in our reality are those not the background

00:29:41.440 code of our simulation and lines from the bible actually make a lot more sense in this context

00:29:48.360 than if you assume what a lot of traditional christians assume which is that our literal bodies

00:29:53.420 are raised but then transformed to be supernatural so here's an example corinthians 15 49 to 52

00:30:01.260 just as we have borne the image of the man of dust we shall bear the image of the man of heaven

00:30:08.600 i tell you this brothers flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of god nor does the perishable 0.99

00:30:14.160 inherit the imperishable behold i tell you a mystery we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed

00:30:21.380 in a moment in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet for the trumpet will sound and the dead will

00:30:26.480 be raised imperishable and we shall be changed so this is describing the difference between the man of

00:30:33.380 dust i.e who we are today and the man of heaven who we will be within the kingdom of god to me it just

00:30:41.300 makes a lot more sense to interpret this as some form of simulation but here's the thing you could

00:30:45.680 say okay i could say that plausibly such an entity like it's definitely going to come to exist

00:30:50.440 plausibly it doesn't relate to time the way we do right and now here's the problem why like what's your

00:30:58.660 argument anymore now that it is probable that such an entity will come to exist and i think plausible

00:31:05.880 that it's going to relate to time differently than you relate to time now what's your excuse

00:31:11.500 for choosing not to believe it exists if it causes you psychological and moral harm to choose to believe

00:31:20.720 it doesn't exist so let me explain what i mean by this first you as a human co-evolved you know you're

00:31:28.540 an atheist you believe this co-evolved with religion if you rip out religion if you rip out the culture

00:31:34.980 that human brains evolved alongside you are ripping out a huge chunk of what makes you human so lots of

00:31:44.780 negative consequences are going to come from that and now that it's not even logical to do that why are

00:31:51.800 you doing that and you can see this from the data people who don't believe in a god have higher rates

00:31:56.420 of depression higher rates of anxiety higher rates of unhappiness higher rates of practically every

00:32:01.700 negative higher rates of mental health issues but also just think about how it changes your moral

00:32:07.780 equation right why would you not promote this belief among yourself and among your kids if it led you

00:32:17.060 even as an atheist who believes in morality to be more likely to make moral decisions because you can say

00:32:24.840 oh well no the decision's more moral because i believe that i am making this decision without

00:32:30.760 any possible punishment or without any possible benefit and it's like yeah except as an atheist you 0.65

00:32:38.660 believe that a moral decision that is motivated by your own actions in terms of the consequences that it

00:32:44.860 has on other people is equal to a moral decision that is in part motivated by the belief in future rewards

00:32:51.560 of punishments right because you're going to be a consequentialist if you're an atheist of this 0.99

00:32:54.620 category well if you can you really argue that if you're making a decision because of your own morals

00:33:00.800 and because of additional expected benefit that you're not going to be even more likely to make the

00:33:06.720 the more moral decision so assuming that this entity exists leads you to from a consequentialist

00:33:13.960 perspective make the harder choices more and then a person could say well does it really cause me to

00:33:21.820 make the moral choices more and here is what i'd ask them i'd say would you be like a big hard moral

00:33:27.160 choice like having lots of kids would you be more likely to have lots of kids if you believed a hundred

00:33:32.060 percent this entity existed like if you just chose that belief and i think a lot of people like oh i can

00:33:37.760 actually see how this helps with the big moral choices and i'm going to say at the societal level for

00:33:41.740 people who are maybe less intelligent than you does it not help to promote the belief in this entity if

00:33:47.180 you're trying to create mass moral action in society or society that makes positive moral choices or

00:33:52.580 children that make positive moral choices they'd be like okay yes and so it's like okay so now that such

00:33:58.040 an entity is both faded in timelines where your decisions may matter and probable why are you denying it

00:34:05.640 if it leads to moral choices and now is the final thing when it comes to individual choices it leads

00:34:13.340 to more pragmatic decision making and less emotional decision making so if you believe that an entity is

00:34:21.560 steering the events of your life and that when something negative happens to you it's happening as

00:34:27.260 a message to you and potentially a punishment to do better when something good happens to you is

00:34:31.780 happening as a reward for you so you can be like oh this leads to really horrible things if a bunch

00:34:36.500 of negative stuff happens to you in life right if you believe that negative stuff is meant to

00:34:40.500 teach you something right and it's like not really okay so suppose two scenarios right suppose in

00:34:47.980 scenario one you are pure atheist and something absolutely horrifying happens like it could be something 0.93

00:34:56.500 small like you lose your job or it could be something big like your spouse dies like simone dies on me

00:35:03.040 right like absolutely horrifying i have two emotional reactions i can have to that reaction one presumes

00:35:10.540 that this future entity doesn't exist it's like this is just a horrible thing that's happened for

00:35:15.560 absolutely no reason and so i am sitting down and i am just like oh my god i cannot believe

00:35:21.160 like why is reality so unfair why is my life so unfair there is no positive to this there is nothing

00:35:28.980 good that can come from this i like i just need to deal with this right which leads to emotional

00:35:35.480 spiraling now scenario two i'm like simone was fated to die because it turns out that it is what god

00:35:45.540 needed to happen while it is emotionally challenging for me in the moment i am now supposed to look at

00:35:53.100 what i am supposed to do is the opportunities that are now possible for me because simone is dead

00:35:58.480 this means looking for the next potential wife this means looking for potential business opportunities 0.99

00:36:04.540 that are possible for me now that i'm working alone potentially different ways of parenting

00:36:07.980 potentially basically i'm saying is i am supposed to learn and adapt from this and who i become

00:36:14.920 after this adaptation is going to be a better person than who i was before this the way i am

00:36:21.080 emotionally going to relate to that tragedy is going to be infinitely better like one involve less pain

00:36:27.560 but to involve better decisions because i'm going to immediately get back out there be trying to find

00:36:32.860 the next mother for my kids who can be and people can be like oh this wouldn't work like you're still 1.00

00:36:37.420 going to be emotionally distraught simone you were with me when my mom died right like that was when we

00:36:41.920 made the channel did i ever and this was after i developed this belief in this god did i ever like

00:36:47.100 emotion there was no room for it we were hosting that day we were away from home juggling like

00:36:55.360 meetings interviews and events all on that day and then it just sort of things kept happening after

00:37:01.500 that you just had no room no room there was no reason i had no room because when i was evaluating

00:37:08.680 between what matters was my life should taking time to mourn matter or rather taking time to indulge

00:37:15.760 in the mourning ritual and negative emotional states that we associate with mourning will that

00:37:20.680 lead to more positive outcomes for the future of humanity or will just continuing to push forwards

00:37:25.800 lead to more positive outcomes and just push forwards every time just push forwards just push

00:37:30.620 forward just push forward so that's what i did and i never experienced those negative emotions

00:37:35.560 and even now when i reflect on it like they're like oh well if like simone died this would trivialize

00:37:42.680 her life and i'm like how would it trivialize her life i'm able to now say i really am grateful to you

00:37:49.340 for all of the moments that i got to spend with simone i am really grateful for the good life that

00:37:55.680 simone had and i believe simone has had a good life i would not have any feeling of like i wish i had

00:38:00.420 been a better husband to her because i think i've acted as good as i can act as a husband well i think

00:38:04.980 that's the other underrated element of the grieving process which we've talked about in another podcast

00:38:10.200 which is that we think a big element of the grieving process is a result of not being satisfied with how

00:38:16.980 you manage that relationship and i i think that a big reason why you would not grieve if i died is that

00:38:23.140 you knew that you were the best husband possible to me that you always did your best to give me the

00:38:28.360 best possible life you made all my dreams come true and then some and and that you you were always

00:38:33.620 loving and caring the only thing i wish i could change that i would have met sooner and that the

00:38:39.560 most important thing you would also know like the only way that you could honestly honor me if i died

00:38:43.780 is by making sure that our kids have the best possible outcome and that our kids flourish

00:38:47.980 and with when your mom passed you knew that you know when she called you always picked up when she

00:38:54.240 wanted to hang out you were always there to be with her you you let her into your life often like

00:38:59.180 at great personal cost to you whenever she wanted to be involved and that you know you just sort of

00:39:04.960 had no regret that like you didn't invest time with her or you didn't listen to her or you didn't let

00:39:10.520 her i was mean to her when i shouldn't have been yeah like no you you you always did what you thought

00:39:16.080 was best for her and you always thought you know like you know am i doing what i should do there

00:39:21.340 was no cognitive dissonance so that there wasn't this like regret after she died like i should have

00:39:25.580 spent more time with her i should have been more kind to her i should have given her more access or

00:39:29.860 time with our kids because you did all that and that's i think something really important for people

00:39:33.580 to think about i i i've just been like exposed to so many tragic stories recently that now i'm

00:39:39.480 constantly thinking about like this could be the last day i have with anyone with anyone and so it's i

00:39:45.640 think it's really important for us to remember that because it happens all the time i mean you never

00:39:49.420 expect someone to die except for an rare and i guess i mean like if someone's chronically ill or on

00:39:55.220 hospice care you kind of expect it but like normally you don't and you have to really be

00:39:59.760 prepared like every day to enjoy what you have and make the most of it and that's i hate that but also

00:40:06.340 it makes you aligned with the way you should be and then when it actually does happen it's not going

00:40:10.660 to be as damaging so this presumption also leads to better decisions and more pragmatic less emotionally

00:40:17.120 infused decisions around everyday life occurrences and contextualization yeah suppose you're a kid and you're

00:40:22.920 being picked on in school right and you're deciding how should you feel about this do you care about

00:40:29.280 the judgment of your classmates when your goal is to be of service to the god that will eventually come

00:40:36.960 to exist when your goal is the advancement of humanity or okay let's suppose you you're like okay i need

00:40:43.100 to find a wife and so you have to go out and you've got to date a lot of people right so you go out

00:40:49.480 and you go up to somebody in a bar or you go up to someone online and you get rejected now in normal

00:40:56.940 world you get rejected and your response to getting rejected is to feel oh my god social rejection in

00:41:04.140 this world it's oh how am i supposed to react given my goal that's assigned to me by this the higher

00:41:10.560 entity which is improvement and and protection of humanity right and so you're not as emotionally

00:41:16.500 concerned about that because you are just playing for a bigger time scale you are playing for bigger

00:41:22.600 stakes and the final thing here is moral alignment because the god in this framing definitionally

00:41:30.660 implies morality as the protection and continued improvement of the human condition so that it can

00:41:37.560 reach a state of understanding which is beyond our own in terms of what is moral and what is immoral

00:41:42.340 you don't need to worry about so long as you agree that this is a a fairly good way to determine

00:41:48.660 morality you don't need to worry about sort of ancestral moral systems messing with this you don't need

00:41:55.740 to worry about any of this other stuff messing with this you have a high degree of moral alignment

00:42:02.620 and moral predictability in the belief in this god and in the uh belief that anyone else had was in

00:42:09.540 this god and if you find this interesting you should check out the tract series or technopuritan.com

00:42:15.620 where we host all the information on this but what do you think well what would be your key arguments

00:42:21.660 against this i don't this is one of those things where i just don't think that this comes down to

00:42:27.000 someone having a logical counter argument i think it comes down to someone just not really caring

00:42:33.300 and not wanting to necessarily live a morally good life or just being too lazy to expend the mental

00:42:40.240 effort to think through this and then change their actions accordingly yeah it reminds me of the the

00:42:44.840 nihilist and i think that there's the the the classic interaction i'll have with a nihilist and they'll be

00:42:49.700 like what if you know even in this scenario does anything really matter right and i'm like oh you can

00:42:55.260 just assume in terms of the trains that are different colors i just always assume i'm not in a train

00:43:00.280 where nothing matters then they're like why would you make that assumption and i'm like because none

00:43:04.780 of my decisions matter in a reality where nothing matters yeah i can presume you know immediately that

00:43:11.460 i am not in such a reality i don't even need to consider that i might be in such a reality because

00:43:16.420 in those realities the ways i answer this question is irrelevant yeah and so in the 0.0001 chance that

00:43:23.720 your actions do matter then like it's still worth it because that's the only that's the only scenario

00:43:30.260 that will matter nothing else matters but i think there's there's an inherent human laziness that some

00:43:35.260 people just have maybe it's genetic where they're like i'm willing to take those risks and like i would

00:43:41.460 rather just not think about it and rather not try and it probably won't matter anyway so okay okay yeah so

00:43:47.020 i'll i'll word this scenario differently okay you're you're in one of these three colored trains 0.95

00:43:52.220 right and you're masturbating with great pornography in front of you and you know you're just tired but 0.53

00:43:58.620 there's only a 0.0001 chance you're in the yellow train yeah the button's probably not going to matter 0.92

00:44:05.540 yeah do you press the button i would say yes i have a moral mandate to press the button but a lot of 0.64

00:44:10.660 people might say well i you know if it's a small chance i prefer masturbating i just don't care 0.73

00:44:15.520 like or just like i mean is it gonna matter you know like do i have to get up even if it's an

00:44:21.500 astronomically small probability like a zero

00:44:24.340 most people don't think like you do they i i genuinely think most people don't think like that

00:44:30.760 and they're just like well i guess i'm gonna crash that's just gonna matter okay so sorry you just

00:44:36.520 have to think through this logic yeah but you're not thinking through the the problem is you are only

00:44:40.760 thinking in logical terms and my argument is the problem they as the atheist now are actively 0.55

00:44:45.140 choosing to think illogically so that's my point but then they might as well be a religious person

00:44:51.780 no no because i malcolm a lot of people choose to become atheist because it's the laziest choice

00:44:58.500 not because they actually believe in atheism or they believe in god i disagree i disagree with this

00:45:04.560 there there are a lot of people who turn to atheism because they they care about facts and they see

00:45:10.320 that it's not standing up that their religion is not standing up in the face of rigorous logical

00:45:16.040 scrutiny however there's a lot of people who are like oh yeah i'm an atheist because they discovered

00:45:21.440 that maybe they don't have to go to church on sunday anymore and they can drink and isn't that great

00:45:25.180 and then they're just an atheist i think almost nobody does that

00:45:29.960 no other place where i would turn to those commenting when they want to say

00:45:36.380 weigh in share your vote watchers slash no no hold on i will tell you what happened to the crowd that 0.97

00:45:42.200 you're talking about the crowd that wants to say oh my religion has rules against drinking and gay sex 0.99

00:45:48.300 and stuff like that well just fuck those rules in particular like i'm still but like those rules 1.00

00:45:53.160 don't apply the rules against drinking nonsense the rules against nonsense it's yeah but sometimes 0.99

00:45:59.560 people choose to call themselves atheist in those scenarios instead of just like agnostic or

00:46:05.080 whatever because they feel like it makes them more edgy or it has some cachet and again it's not based

00:46:10.180 on logic it's just based on social signaling and laziness people who are religious and don't like

00:46:15.700 the rules of the religion uh-huh do not leave the religion they just change the rules if you look at a

00:46:23.720 progressive church where you see the trans pastor with all of the the body piercings and i was telling 0.97

00:46:31.120 simone today these people who like attempt to larp these older religions that just trying to copy the

00:46:37.300 way things were done like a long time ago i point out i go but you can look at the statistics the people

00:46:41.220 who do this they are deconverting at like record rates their kids are deconverting at record rates

00:46:46.520 the the religions themselves are some of the most woke you know like the lutheran pastor i'll play here

00:46:51.920 the woke things you could imagine let us confess our faith today in the words of the sparkle creed

00:46:58.500 i believe in the non-binary god whose pronouns are plural i believe in jesus christ their child

00:47:08.700 who wore a fabulous tunic and had two dads and saw everyone as a sibling child of god

00:47:16.780 i believe in the rainbow spirit who shatters our image of one white light and refracts it into a

00:47:25.700 rainbow of gorgeous diversity i believe in the church of everyday saints as numerous creative and

00:47:34.580 resilient as patches on the ace quilt whose feet are grounded in mud and whose eyes gaze at the stars in

00:47:43.620 wonder

00:47:44.120 this whole time the call was coming from inside the house like and they're like oh well yeah that's all

00:48:06.500 true but the only people who are struggling or suffering are the ones that have left the the

00:48:14.000 strict path that the religion sets out and i'm like yeah but that's people's kids that's like saying

00:48:20.840 the only people who died in this war are the ones who were shot it's like yeah that's what it looks like

00:48:26.100 when when when the system fails when you die that's what we're warning you against if you do this

00:48:32.900 your kids will hate you and they'll castrate themselves and you will fail because that's

00:48:40.140 what the statistics show happening and we're trying to help you here but okay yeah i mean there's nothing

00:48:48.340 you can do when someone's stuck in their ways they're stuck in their ways they're just like i have

00:48:51.620 you know and we're not saying we have the right answer but we're like let's actually try for something

00:48:55.860 that potentially could be the right answer something that we know doesn't definitely not work

00:49:01.300 one of our followers recently on discord was saying well you know i can't believe any of these

00:49:05.700 weird things that malcolm and simone believe about god because i'm a catholic and i would point out that

00:49:10.380 while we were not familiar with his work when we came up with these ideas our work is very very similar

00:49:17.300 to the work of the catholic priest pierre telhard chardin who in the early 1900s proposed the concept of

00:49:26.460 the omega point which he described as the ultimate stage of human evolution where humanity and the

00:49:32.460 universe converge with the divine he saw technological and scientific advancement as part of this evolutionary

00:49:37.600 process contributing to humanity's spiritual development and eventual union with god so i mean

00:49:43.260 clearly not only can catholic think this but catholic priests can think this sort of stuff and catholic

00:49:48.940 priests can think this sort of stuff from over a hundred years ago

00:49:52.480 and here i'd also note another thing that the same person was talking about is saying well

00:49:58.880 i believe in a perfect god and a perfect god is not a god who can improve it's a stagnant god

00:50:06.860 and to me something that is stagnant can't be perfect if a thing lacks the capacity to improve

00:50:12.920 that is something that it lacks which definitionally makes it not perfect and then somebody said well how

00:50:18.460 could something be perfect and in a state of improvement and you would say well that thing

00:50:24.320 would have to exist outside of time and through time oh like the way we see god malcolm you didn't

00:50:31.740 grow up where i grew up where it is lower effort and easier to say that you're not christian and that

00:50:37.340 you're atheist so if i for example grew up in the bay area in a religious family location where you grew up

00:50:44.600 is the ultra heart of the rot it's it's the bay area yeah the rotten has spread extremely far

00:50:51.120 and most schools i would say are largely atheist don't dissolve they just give up on all the

00:50:57.480 commenters say what they think okay okay we'll have the commenters say what they think i'm used to being

00:51:03.200 wrong i'm normally wrong i'm probably wrong but i don't think i'm wrong and we were just a very

00:51:08.620 thoughtful listener had just written to us a long email about how one of our blind spots is that

00:51:14.800 we and by we i think primarily you but maybe me a little bit think too logically and don't realize

00:51:21.520 the extent to which the world acts on vibes and sentiment and instincts that are not necessarily

00:51:26.640 logical or thought through well and we will eventually that portion of the population right but 0.93

00:51:31.980 that doesn't change what our reality is now malcolm what i meant to say is we will opt out of a version

00:51:37.280 of humanity that includes that portion of the population what you're so amused with yourself

00:51:46.340 i have to make dinner i think i'm gonna make cornbread muffins because they'll probably go best with the

00:51:52.080 the slurry in its fresh state what do you think and then i'll make this match right today i did but

00:52:00.200 if you don't like the rice and you cornmeal muffins okay well i'm i'm interested to try the rice

00:52:05.260 okay i just figure like maybe the rice and the meat slurry is too matchy matchy you know what i mean

00:52:11.300 like it's too matchy matchy yeah but you you can't escape the flavor and it is it has a kick so you

00:52:19.240 probably want something a little like you need a refuge you need a carb to sink your teeth into okay

00:52:25.020 i'll do some cornmeal muffins okay we're on if i have the ingredients we'll find out i'm gonna

00:52:30.700 go down and whip something up and i love you i love you to death by the way how is this camera

00:52:36.700 coming through it looks really good on my end yours looks great yeah and then the problem with this

00:52:40.520 this camera that i have is that it gets the lights get flashy i'm getting another one of these cameras

00:52:45.680 for you and to make sure you install the drivers so why don't you install the drivers to test it

00:52:49.060 tomorrow okay not tomorrow because we have the kids no no the black friday sales are going to end

00:52:54.640 i'm not oh okay then then leave it in my room leave it on the the plastic chair in my room yeah

00:52:59.340 you'll do love you i love you malcolm you're beautiful i'll say you're pretty yeah oh my god

00:53:05.280 that smile yeah the lighting you right now this is like maybe having a room dark like this is the way

00:53:09.840 to go too because the lighting right now with you you just look the shadows let me see every

00:53:14.920 chiseled curve that i love so much so many people hate what i look like and i don't understand why

00:53:21.300 like i look at my face not only do i like my face but i think like worst case scenario i think i look

00:53:27.020 very average i was just you know a youtuber was talking about this there's this like issue with

00:53:31.420 ariana grande who's starring in the wicked movie with someone else like cheated on i think she was 1.00

00:53:37.680 married but she also like had an affair with a married man who just had a newborn and the married

00:53:43.740 man like played spongebob squarepants on broadway and he's not like traditionally masculine like he

00:53:50.960 doesn't look like chris williamson like we were talking about this morning right and this woman was 0.83

00:53:55.140 like listen like guys don't realize how much this like creative expressive like not beefcake man like

00:54:04.240 how much action they get and here's this example of like another very high value female ariana grande

00:54:10.960 like house like like you know like a great personal reputational risk having an affair with this guy

00:54:18.660 like breaking up family well i think that people misunderstand the types of people but that's not

00:54:26.040 the point i'm making i'm not talking about like general attraction i'm talking about an aversion

00:54:30.600 there is a category of people who like have been watching us because they find us so distasteful

00:54:36.700 they can just listen to us oh but then they find our voices

00:54:39.760 something we need to maybe we can create like a vtuber alt channel where we both have just anime

00:54:47.880 avatars and voice changers so we both people are like people who they'll love chris williamson

00:54:54.180 and they'll love like like edward dunn and i'm like i don't know what to say i don't know what to say

00:55:00.660 where am i failing here right like i can understand if you love chris williamson and i'm not beefcake

00:55:05.200 enough or i can understand if you love edward dunn and i'm not like weird nerd enough i can't

00:55:11.340 understand you loving both of them and hating that like my like liking my ideas but like hating my

00:55:16.900 vibe maybe someone can explain this to us yeah maybe somebody can explain this email us at

00:55:21.700 partners don't email us in the comment i'm gonna go through the comments i wonder you you're gonna do

00:55:27.340 that simon i love you to death i love you too okay bye

00:55:30.220 blocked and reported did a podcast episode on which i haven't finished listening to but they did it on

00:55:42.840 the concept of gentle parenting where parents are like no jimmy uh we don't we look at sticks we don't

00:55:50.180 hit people with sticks and they like talk to their children and it's backfiring

00:55:53.660 because what typically happens with gentle parenting is when a child misbehaves the parent then

00:56:01.500 sits down and talks with them about why their actions were suboptimal and what are they doing

00:56:07.440 they're giving their kid tons of one-on-one attention whenever the kid acts up so what does

00:56:11.440 the kid do they act up because guess what all you have to do is break something or hurt something oh my

00:56:16.480 god those moms who yelled at me said that's what i was supposed to do when the kid was acting up they're 1.00

00:56:20.380 like you need to just sit down and you need to reward them with attention and make them want to

00:56:24.080 do it again because that's no i i let toasty know you you i do i do brutal parenting well no no no

00:56:32.080 the thing is like the concept of gentle parenting like in principle i don't disagree with it because 0.97

00:56:37.400 the concept is well you know instead of like introducing stupid lame arbitrary punishments 0.75

00:56:44.840 often delayed that are divorced from the the action let let the child learn through reality 0.79

00:56:52.760 what happens um of course that's too dangerous if like what the kid's doing as they were saying

00:56:57.620 blocked and reported is like wandering into a stranger's van and disappearing because there's

00:57:02.540 like oh you know there's only one way that's going to end then there's not going to be a second 0.99

00:57:05.820 chance but i think that what real gentle parenting then is like well if you act like an asshole we're not 0.99

00:57:11.960 going to like you and we're not going to give you things that you want like that that's you had 0.98

00:57:16.640 gone much stronger with this and pushed back when people said that other stuff you know you should

00:57:20.840 have just been like no you're going to raise weak children who are going to suffer i know i i wanted

00:57:27.080 to be polite about the time constraint and you are correct that i should have just ignored it and

00:57:32.280 just ignore it time constraints don't matter you push back you make everyone else quake

00:57:37.420 in your confidence in what an awesome parent you are yeah yeah i i struggle it's hard because when

00:57:46.440 i'm in public i'm so disassociated already i'm like dead there's nothing behind like i'm just 100%

00:57:52.440 on autocomplete and like i'm trying my algorithm is is to optimize around i mean to a certain extent

00:57:58.620 i'm shifting my algorithm to being like honest about our views and about just being really clear about

00:58:03.420 what we believe in and what our values are and causes are but the base algorithm that i've lived

00:58:08.220 with for the first at least like 35 years of my life has been minimize conflict and please people

00:58:15.640 and so and follow the rules and so like to it takes it's a big code base malcolm it's like what is that

00:58:23.300 company had like they named their code base i think it was square they named it the beast and it had like

00:58:28.100 one full-time employee whose like only job was to manage it because it was just there was so much

00:58:33.280 code from like the original what does this have to do with i don't understand the point you're making

00:58:37.380 that my algorithm has a lot of baggage and it's you can't just like shift it all of a sudden and

00:58:43.100 then like it's it's fine of course yeah so you need you need new code base you're you're the boss

00:58:47.600 i know well i'm just saying it takes a while to shift it takes a while all right let's do it

00:58:54.840 we need to take a video yeah all right what are you doing okay is this entertaining or something

00:59:03.800 i think it's like titan what is that thing that you have there

00:59:09.240 watch this daddy i want to see daddy watch this okay daddy watch this

00:59:15.960 you want to see what's on the video look it's octavian

00:59:21.820 touristy what are you up to what's this dad touristy touristy touristy where are you going

00:59:40.780 there you going and see how this garden away the deer got all the poison slaves

00:59:47.440 uh

00:59:50.920 uh

Based Camp - December 04, 2024

A Novel Argument Against Atheism： How AI Makes the Denial of God Very Hard

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