America’s Chernobyl is Inevitable Now: How DEI Will Kill (More) People
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In this episode, we talk about how the U.S. government is failing us, and what we can do to fix it. We talk about the lack of diversity in the airline industry, and how this is a symptom of a larger problem.
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the FAA has faced pressure to diversify the air traffic control to adopt an additional screening
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test that was based on biographical details. But it gets even worse than that because this profile
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wasn't specifically Black people. It was white, progressive, mostly negative stereotypes of Black
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people. Angry all the time, can't take directions, bad at science. And a lot of Black people who had
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applied for these jobs were filtered out of getting these jobs. You are specifically filtering
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for an entire incoming class, and that's coming in this year, to these flight centers in the FAA
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that are managing the planes to make sure they don't crash into each other as they're landing.
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And you are explicitly sorting from people who like to take big risks, have no scientific background,
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and do not take a criticism well from Superior. You are basically guaranteeing crashes coming out
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of this. Would you like to know more? Hello, everyone. I am very excited to be opening us
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for a new Basecamp episode, especially because Malcolm the other day implied to me that he just
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didn't want to fly anymore. And I was like, what do you mean you don't want to take this trip?
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It was for something business-related. And I think he just genuinely doesn't feel safe on
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airplanes anymore. And after we discuss what we're about to discuss, perhaps you too will fall into
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this category. Although I find it quite silly because really it's getting in the car with an Uber driver
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who knows how little sleep they have, who knows how little training they have to talk about standards.
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Anyway, I think it's overblown, Malcolm. I think you'll be okay. But things have been getting worse
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and worse with setting standards and making sure that the people who are running things in the
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airline industry, the aviation industry, be they pilots, be they airline CEOs, or be they working
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Actually, I want to take this in a much broader direction than just this.
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It's just one example of the way systems are beginning to break.
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So in our governance book, and we're going to go deep into a number of the places we're beginning
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to see major systems fall apart. We talk about why things like communism fell apart. And the core
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reason communism fell apart is governance structures develop inefficiencies and internal sort of cancers.
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And so if they're competing against, like, you don't have that big a problem within a capitalist system
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because you have a bunch of internal governing systems that are competing against each other.
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And as they get large and bloated, like, for example, the average length of time for a company to be
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on the Fortune 500 list, I think it's only 20 years or 30 years.
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Yeah. Basically, as soon as these private enterprises become non-competitive in a market-based system,
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they die because no one wants to use them anymore. That doesn't happen as much with government.
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And so we, well, and then when you extend the government systems to individual operating parts
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of a country, you can much more quickly get catastrophic failures due to failures within
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a bureaucracy. And that's why I say that America is about to have its Chernobyl moment.
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This is what happened with Chernobyl fundamentally. And this happened, not Chernobyl's the incident we
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know of, but there's actually many other incidents of communist market failures that basically led
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to deaths of millions of people. Obviously the five-year plan in China, or no, what was it?
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The Great Leap Forward in China. Then you had that wheat incident in the Soviet Union that was like
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a failure of Soviet science where a guy was trying to, I can attach a video on the subject. It's very
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interesting and millions of people died. It was called the Linsenko affair and Vsauce has a very good
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video on the subject titled, The Man Who Killed Millions Trying to Grow Food in Snow.
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But then obviously we know about Chernobyl, where somebody who didn't understand how nuclear power
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plants worked was in charge of managing safety at a nuclear power plant. And so you,
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when you have a system that no longer is elevating individuals based on their efficacy,
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you have the capability of major systems beginning to break. And I think like you at the beginning of
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this episode, like laughing about it, oh, it's so funny. We're not going to have something like that
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in the United States. And the reason why I'm putting out this episode and the reason why I'm going to be
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titling it what I'm titling it is I suspect within five to 10 years, there's going to be a major incident
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in the US, which will make your laugh really morbid in, in, in reflection. We are going to have
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here. I am with a false sense of security. You're warning me. I'm telling you that right now, like
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if people are going to die, it actually already happened in Norway, for example. So. Oh yeah.
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Break this down. This was hilarious. So in Norway, a multimillion dollar warship under the NATO
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command was entirely submerged after it struck an oil tanker. This, by the way, blew out Norway's
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entire naval budget for the year. That was just the cost of this damage is immense. This was thought
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to be an unsinkable ship because of the way it was built. Yeah. But yeah, it was called an unsinkable
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ship. And here's a quote from an article on it. Questions remain as to why the well-equipped warship
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could not avoid hitting the slow moving 62,000 ton, 250 meter long oil tanker.
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Not exactly. Because people going through recordings of what was happening on the bridge at that time
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cite multiple instances of gross negligence and incompetence.
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Well, yeah. So, so here's another quote. Sound recordings and radar logs have revealed crude,
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almost incomprehensible human errors made by the crew. According to experienced naval officers,
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the mistakes make the crew look like amateurs. Which is embarrassing, especially for me and my
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kind being a femmel because apparently a laudable and celebrated element of this unsinkable ship was
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that five, four of the five. No, four out of five of the crew members were women. Yeah. And they had
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recently done an article that heaped praises on them for how pro-woman, because they had recently opened
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the ranks of the Navy to women in Norway with the article saying something like, it's advantageous
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to have many women on board. It will be a natural thing and complete and a completely different
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environment, which I look at as positive. One of the lieutenants said aboard the ship. And you look
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at things like this, and this is a ship that crashed, right? Like people made it all safely from
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this. This is only what 18 people were injured, but no one died. Okay. This is great. We're not having
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infrastructure fall apart yet or nuclear power. It did a lot of damage to the local like oil and
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gas industry, didn't it? In addition to. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying you haven't seen a plane with
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families on it fall out of the sky yet. I suspect we are going to see soon. And it's not, if you're
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like, oh, I heard about that airplane scandal. Oh no. The scandal is in the manufacturing of the
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airplanes. There is an independent scandal in the training of the pilots. And there is an independent
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scandal in the training of the people who manage the air traffic controls. So if you have heard one
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of these scandals in isolation, you haven't heard them compounded. So go over the air traffic control
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scandal. And I definitely want to direct everyone to my favorite overview done by Tracy Woodgrains
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over on his substack, tracingwoodgrains.com. He did a really great summary, but the gist is basically
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this, that for a very long time, there was a lot of criticism faced by the FAA because they were not
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sufficiently diverse, which makes sense to us. Our dirty little secret is that Malcolm and I run,
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operate a travel management business. It's very heavy in aviation and yeah, like airplane nerds and
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the kind of people who want to become air traffic controllers, which by the way, is one of the most
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stressful jobs out there are typically white men. By statistics, it's one of the most stressful jobs
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out there. By statistics. Yeah. So I'm also not saying this is the world's most fun job, but also
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I'm saying airplane nerds are disproportionately white and male. We'll just say that. We'll see if we
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can get our daughter into airplanes. Our sons are definitely into airplanes. So at least there's that.
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So there was, and keep in mind, this has been going on for a really long time. I'm going to just
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read a couple of quotes from the article just to give you a little bit of some background. So Tracy
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wrote, historically, the pipeline into air traffic control has followed a few paths, military veterans,
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graduates of the air traffic collegiate training initiative, also known as AT-CTI program, and the
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general public, whichever route they came from, each candidate would be required to take and pass the
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eight-hour AT-SAT cognitive test to begin serious training. This test was validated as being
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effective as recently as 2013. But then again, Tracy continues, the FAA has faced pressure to
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diversify the air traffic control for generations, something that seems to have influenced the scoring
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structure of the AT-SAT cognitive test used for pre-employment screening of air traffic control
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candidates. Leading up to 2014, that pressure intensified with the National Black Coalition
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of Federal Aviation Employees leading that push. So I'm not going to read any more from the article
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directly, but basically what happened is this National Black Coalition encouraged the FAA to adopt
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an additional screening test that was based on biographical details that was essentially designed
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to not be passable. It failed 90% of those who went through it, many of whom had already passed
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all the other tests to begin training. They'd gone through, they'd paid thousands of dollars for
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college credits and gone through all this time to become air traffic controllers. And then with two
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months notice, they're informed of this new test. They also have to fill out and they are disqualified.
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It's worse than that. So then the organization that had prompted this, right? It was an organization
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for Black potential people. The National Black Coalition of Federal Aviation Employees.
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Yes, quote, in particular, one Shelton Snow, an FAA employee and then prized president of that
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organization's Washington suburb chapter, provided its members with quote unquote buzzwords in January 2014
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that would automatically push their resumes to the tops of HR files. A 2013 NBCFAE meeting advised
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members to please include on resumes if you are an NBCFAE member, emphasizing they were only concerns
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with the employment of African-Americans, women, and other minorities. And then later after the 2014
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biographical, so this was what they did before they introduced this questionnaire, is they put specific
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words that would automatically get their resume pushed to the top. And one was being a member
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of this all Black organization. But then after this questionnaire was launched, quote, after the 2014
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biographical questionnaire was released, Snow took it a step further. As Fox Business reported,
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he sent voicemail messages to NBCFAE applicants, advising them on specific answers they needed to enter
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into the biographical assessment to avoid failing, stating that he was, quote, about 99.99% sure that
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it is exactly how you need to answer each question. So basically, on this test that 90% of people were
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failing, the Black applicants were being given all of the answers to the questions before the test.
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But it gets even worse than that, because we need to go into what these questions were.
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So in one question, it was something like, what was your worst test in school? The correct answer,
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the one that wouldn't cause you to fail, was my worst subject was science. Okay, so they are
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explicitly screening out all of the applicants whose worst subject wasn't science.
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Yeah, and actually, it's really worth going through some or all of the assessment. You can do this
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by going to Tracy Woodgrain's write-up on this. Someone, after seeing, I think, Tracy Woodgrain's
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coverage of it, took the actual assessment and then created a version of it online that you can
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interact with. And you can answer the questions and then see what you get wrong. And it is deeply
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disturbing and amazing at the same time. We've got to go over some of the other crazy things. There was
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one about risk-taking behavior. The only correct answer in that one was that you do extreme risk-taking
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behavior. Is this who you want managing landing planes? How well people respond to criticism
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from superiors? The only correct answer- No, no, no. There was not an only correct answer.
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Basically, each answer had weird, arbitrary, different weights. But the only question that,
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or sorry, the only response that didn't get you any points at all was that you moderately didn't
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respond well to criticism. And the one that would give you, the answer that would give you the most
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points, that is points helping you, is that you really didn't do well with criticism from your
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higher-up. Criticism from superiors. So if you talk about, if you are specifically filtering for
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an entire incoming class, and that's coming in this year, to these flight centers in the FAA that are
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managing the planes to make sure they don't crash into each other at their landing, and you are
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explicitly sorting from people who like to take big risks, have no scientific background,
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and do not take a criticism well from superior, and worse than that are coming out of these ultra
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wokey, like people who have used their ethnic status for a long time to get ahead in life,
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you are basically guaranteeing crashes coming out of this. Yeah. To be more charitable, what I would say,
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and I still think that all those things are real problems, is that there's a DEI-focused
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coalition of people who encouraged the creation of a test with a bunch of arbitrary secret answers,
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and they gave away the key to the insiders that they wanted to help in an effort to increase diversity.
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You're misunderstanding what happened then. Yes. So a few of the subchapters of this national
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organization were able to give away the key to the questions. But in truth, the questions were meant
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to function as they function. 10% of people did get through. These 10% of people fit the profile that the test
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was sorting for. And keep in mind, this profile wasn't specifically black people. It was white, progressive,
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mostly negative stereotypes of black people. Get angry all the time, can't take directions, bad at science.
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And a lot of black people who had applied for these jobs were filtered out of getting these jobs.
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Yeah. In fact, so there is currently still a class action lawsuit because this will happen
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around 2014, 20. Like from 20, I think 14 to 2018, these things were playing out. And then I think
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the assessment was removed around 2018. Of course, that hasn't undone the damage in terms of the
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pipeline of talent that we need to staff the FAA. But now there's a-
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Well, the people need to remove. I think they should remove anyone who passed this test.
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There's a lawsuit. Yes. There's a lawsuit taking place called Brigida versus Buttigieg,
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Buttigieg, sorry, where some of those who filed in part of this class action lawsuit were indeed
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themselves black and were disqualified despite being qualified because of this assessment. So
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it does go to show that this assessment did not necessarily help black people. It helped people
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who were on the inside of this organization, which I think feeds back into what you're saying about
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governance. No, I think you're wrong here. Again, keep in mind the questions that were given out to
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people were only some of the local organizations. Overall, this test did what it was intended to
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do, which was to elevate candidates who fit the progressive stereotype of black characteristics,
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i.e. being stupid, having a bad temper, and not being able to take orders, get into positions
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within the aviation division. And I think that this fundamentally shows how genuinely the bad type of
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racist these progressives are. But I need to go further with this because this wasn't the only
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instance of this happening. Another instance where this has famously been happening recently.
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During an interview with Axios on HBO, Kirby said the company was committed to ensuring 50% of their
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graduating pilot classes would be women or people of color. Elon Musk called Scott Kirby out for this
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on Twitter. I think that raised a lot of the awareness about this and also led to a lot of Twitter memes of
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people talking about it. And I just want to note here how much shit Elon has been getting from this
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from the ultra-progressives. For example, in this one article by NBC News, Elon Musk criticized by
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civil rights groups over claim that diversity efforts make flying less safe. Mark Morial,
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president and CEO of National Urban League, said Musk's statements were abhorrent and pathetic.
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And then of course he goes on to criticize Twitter. Reminder to at Elon Musk providing a home for the
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proliferation of hate speech and white supremacy. Conspiracy theories kills people. Diversity, equity,
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and inclusion cultivates a more inclusive society. They are not the same. We are not the same,
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he added. Or you can check out the Guardian article on this particular topic. Worried about airline safety?
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Blame diversity, says deranged right-wingers. Or the Rolling Stones coverage of this. Conservatives
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are so scared of diversity, they're starting to boycott quote-unquote woke airlines. After twisting a
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Boeing safety issue into outrage over black pilots and LGBT inclusion, the far right is taking aim at
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commercial carriers. So I would like to point out here that they're gonna get people killed. Killed.
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So they can win their stupid online firefights. They have so little concern for basic morality anymore.
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So I don't know, you were telling me recently that the Boeing has gotten so bad with their planes
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that the White House won't let anyone on the staff fly in 737s anymore. And they, you told me about
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this yesterday. I did not, but that's very interesting. Wait, you were? I did not tell you that.
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You had a lot of conversations with people yesterday though.
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Okay. Okay. Yeah. So the White House is no longer able to fly on 737s anymore. And they have to fly
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only on air buses because some issues was found with Biden's plane. And then they did a longer
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review and they found out that they just not considered safe enough to allow for White House
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staff to fly on them or executive level staff to fly on them. I should note, this may not be public
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information because when I researched this, I wasn't able to find it. And it also makes perfect sense
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that the Biden administration would not want this officially announced that they were
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avoiding use of American-made planes for foreign-made planes.
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And this gets worse when you consider this particular piece. So this one's titled,
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Former FAA Safety Expert Addresses Airline DEI Controversy.
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Boeing, which allegedly prioritized DEI hiring in recent years, has found itself in the news after
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a door of one of the models of operated by American Airlines blew off mid-flight.
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In an ex-post last week, billionaire Elon Musk asked if customers wanted to fly an airplane
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made by a company that prioritizes DEI hiring over safety management. Although I feel like it's so
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easy to know what kind of aircraft you're going to be flying on unless they switch it up at the last
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minute, which sometimes they do. It's much scarier thinking that we are landing in airports with air
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traffic controllers who may not be qualified. But this is the problem. It's the air traffic
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controllers aren't qualified. The pilots aren't qualified. And the planes are being made by people
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who aren't qualified. Okay? Boeing pushed through designs that we knew were not safe. And if you want
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to dig deep into this, there's a huge rabbit hole you can dig into. But everyone knew the new 737s
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weren't safe and they were not supposed to go out. But Boeing needed to meet its numbers for its investors.
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For more on this, see the Fortune article, Boeing seeks FAA exemption for safety standard on troubled
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737 MAX planes. About them trying to get around safety regulations that everyone else has to follow
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And all of this is theoretical to people like you. Like at the beginning of this,
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We're not going to have a giant plane filled with families crash into a major city due to...
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I believe it. It's just that I haven't booked us seats next to an exit row one. Never. Because
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we can't afford to pay more for that. But also, I want the person next to the exit row.
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It's not just exit rows. We're going to have major crashes.
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Yeah. You just say like planes falling out of the sky.
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Yes. And just because it hasn't happened yet. And I'm not saying that planes...
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This happens across our economy. So one of my favorite little stories about diversity and inclusion
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is one of the less diversity and inclusion darlings. So much so that the New York Times did
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Patrick Chavez, 50, affirmative action figure. Like about how great he was at the affirmative action
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figure. So this was an individual who in 1973 under a special program got into the UC Davis medical
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school over a white candidate who had better scores than him, Alan Blake, who was denied admission.
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Okay. Now, this guy's entire career has been one of terrible malpractice and just
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nightmarism, which he kept getting out of and getting out of by claiming racism. For example.
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There are apparently recordings of him doing procedures and whatnot with patients screaming.
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He started out in labor and delivery and then I think got removed from that job after
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misusing forceps at one point, but then calling racism and then portions and liposuction.
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He used the fact that he had been removed for improper use of forceps to get promoted.
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I can just read the piece here. Okay. So upon completion of his residency in 1981 at Long Beach
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Medical Hospital, he was hired there at low level. He shouted racism and is promoted to associate
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staff physician without any training. By 1988, hospital staffers monitored his work. After a panel
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of physicians and administrators reprimanded him for a forceps delivery, Chavez cried racism again
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through a discrimination suit. A jury awarded him $1.1 million. This was later overturned, by the way,
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because it was found that he didn't know what he was doing. Chavez then undertook the noble art
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of abortions and liposuction or body sculpting as he called it. He was sued for malpractice 27 times,
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had medical board complaints filed for seven liposuction cases, and was accused of causing
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the deaths of one liposuction patient who he left in his office as her incisions oozed red fluid.
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The patient died there of a massive blood loss. A tape made during his liposuction procedures finds
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horrific screaming, in quote, by his patients, as Chavez offers his bedside manner, quote,
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don't talk to the doctor while he is working, in quote, and, quote, liar pants on fire, in quote.
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A judge suspended his license in 1997, writing an 11-page opinion that Chavez, quote, demonstrates
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an inability to perform some of the most basic duties required of a physician, in quote.
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The Medical Board of California revoked his license in 1998 for, quote, gross negligence,
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incompetence, and repeated negligent acts, in quote. Dr. Kahn blamed racist, quote, white male,
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in quote, physicians for his problems. Just, people have already died due to DEI. This is
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fucking insane. It is insane because that was just one doctor that the left, and the left covered for
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him. That piece in the New York Times about how great he was, that had happened after things like
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patients were dying, or at least being severely injured by this man. So, they cover up how bad
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this is until they can't cover it up anymore. When we have our Chernobyl moment, which is inevitable
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at this point, whether it's a bridge collapse, or a tunnel collapse, or a plane collision, we need
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to call out what caused it, just as Norway had happened with that giant ship. Because real humans
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are going to die. That is inevitable at this point. It has gone that far. And if you're like, how do we
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prevent this from happening in the plane industry? You need to use the test that was testing for people
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who couldn't take feedback well from authority, or were hated science. Those are the people who should
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never be allowed to work in aviation. Every single person who passed that test should be removed from
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their jobs. And if they passed the test because they were given the answers, and you're like, okay,
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then they were just given the answers, they should also be removed from their jobs for dishonesty.
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Okay? In the real world, this is what we used to call cheating. All right? They have no business.
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This test filtered for incompetence and liars that made up an entire incoming class at the FAA.
00:25:41.300
Okay. And I don't think, it's not just that we need to let the other people in. We need to pull
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out every single person that passed this test. Because these were not Black people disproportionately.
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These were liars and people who met a racist caricature of Black people. And they're going
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to make Black people look bad. Because when one of them, and especially if they happen to be Black,
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who got through on this and leads to a plane crash, how do you think that's going to lead to the
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general public viewing the Black population? This is something that Black people-
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Yeah, it's a common affirmative action argument, right? That if people get under the impression
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that any sort of minority, any sort of group is in a room because of that status,
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they're going to assume that person is incompetent, which undermines
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the credentials of any competent person from that group.
00:26:28.920
Well, it also long-term damages these groups. There's that great study that came out recently
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that looked at IQ gaps between Black and white populations and found that they were much smaller
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in districts that were more conservative and that had conservative politicians running them.
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So these affirmative action systems are permanently disempowering the groups that they're meant to
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empower. But what else could they do when they are defining those groups as incapable of taking
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orders, incapable of taking feedback, liking to take unreasonable risks, and being bad at science?
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And so when you look at stuff like this, the way the United States defeated the centrally planned
00:27:06.860
bureaucracy of the Soviet Union was allowing the system to collapse under its own weight.
00:27:12.960
As globalists, whether it's in the UN or within- because what is globalism really? I think people
00:27:17.920
misunderstand why people are so antagonistic. Globalism is the building of a giant
00:27:22.700
bureaucratic elite that basically runs the entire world economy like a centrally planned system.
00:27:32.220
Not great. Yeah, okay. Maybe flying is not- it's so expensive.
00:27:38.660
If you have a lot of kids, it's not something you really need to worry about unless you're us and
00:27:42.780
you're being flyed out all the time to go speak at events, which is where the stress comes for us.
00:27:48.200
Because having a lot of kids means you can't afford to fly anyway, so don't worry about it.
00:27:53.980
Yeah, you can't afford to fly with some of the kids. We just have to do it for work right now,
00:27:57.280
but I would like a world where we're not doing that as much. We'll fly over our guest stars to
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meet with us when we're doing a reality show or something.
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I really hope that when the horrifying inevitability of all of the stupidity comes to roost,
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that we call out exactly what caused this, and we don't pretend that it was anything other than
00:28:25.440
racist progressives that caused this problem and the progressive racist agenda. And people say,
00:28:32.740
why are you so mean to progressives all the time, Malcolm? Can't you just be,
00:28:37.100
people are going to die, like a lot of them. Like, that's why I'm not being chill about this.
00:28:43.760
Okay? It's not conservatives pushing this shit. And they're like, it's only extremists pushing
00:28:49.640
this shit. And it's like, no, it's not. And this is one of the problems I have. This is like saying
00:28:53.880
most Nazis didn't approve of the Holocaust. Yeah, most Nazis didn't approve of the Holocaust. But when you
00:28:59.680
vote for the Nazi party, that's the result. I agree. Most progressives do not approve of all
00:29:05.420
this stuff. But the party that they are putting in power and the people that they are empowering
00:29:10.400
through their actions are the ones implementing all of this. The only people who can take this down
00:29:17.180
are the conservatives. So even if you have some distaste of conservative policies, and I won't say
00:29:22.720
I love everything conservatives do, they are less damaging to people than what progressives are
00:29:27.780
pushing through right now. And that's the problem, where it's one of these things where they're like,
00:29:32.160
don't blame me for what the crazies are doing. And it's like, yeah, but the crazies control
00:29:35.780
your entire political apparatus right now. So when you vote for someone, even if they're a moderate,
00:29:41.360
you are empowering the crazies. Yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting point. At the end of his write-up,
00:29:48.240
for example, Tracy Woodgreens tries to argue that this at least should not be a partisan issue,
00:29:54.400
that in the end, no one in their right mind is going to look at this assessment and say
00:29:57.880
they want people running the FAA who pass it. And that this is something that shouldn't be partisan,
00:30:04.200
that Pete Buttigieg has this amazing opportunity to fix this problem, which by the way, was not fixed
00:30:09.880
during the Trump administration. It just ran right through it. It's not like everyone's on the ball
00:30:13.960
here. And yet he's not doing it, which is very frustrating. And of course, people followed up in the
00:30:17.900
comments that, yes, this is a polarized culture wars issue, because to your point, the people who
00:30:24.800
are empowered to do this are being empowered by progressive parties and by progressive coalitions.
00:30:31.160
But this is easy. If you want to fix this at the legislative level, you just pass a law
00:30:35.200
that specifically targets, with jail time, anyone who implements explicitly racist policy.
00:30:41.480
No, I think that once progressives start getting jailed over implementing racism, and this is
00:30:48.620
racism, right? This is something that should work. Or you could have, if you don't want to do jail
00:30:53.600
time, what you need to do is you need to have fines for their companies and have lists of names of the
00:30:59.660
individuals who participated in this stuff. Because the problem is when these people can leave one
00:31:04.420
company and then go infect another. These people need to be on a list of the companies they're working for
00:31:10.020
need to be. I'm like that terrifying doctor who would just go on and keep doing his thing.
00:31:17.560
They're basically leading to murder sprees. This is insane. It's very scary.
00:31:22.740
And people will die if we do not systemically handle this issue.
00:31:29.120
Gosh, we can't afford to fly business class, and that's all I want to fly. So it's probably better
00:31:35.460
I'm pointing out it's not just airplanes. This is going to be a bridge. This is going to be a
00:31:39.100
something. A tunnel's going to flood. A building's going to fall over. You just wait.
00:31:44.440
I was trying to think what airline would still be safe at. Of course, if air traffic control at
00:31:49.060
U.S. airports is not safe, then we're never really safe flying. But then the question is,
00:31:54.500
are there carriers and are there airports that we can stop?
00:31:57.640
Well, the LATAM airlines are probably going to be much safer.
00:32:00.200
Yeah. And specifically, LATAM airlines we love, COPA airlines we love. And COPA airlines actually,
00:32:05.620
man, they run a tight ship, as does LATAM, actually. They're quite organized.
00:32:10.700
We say this is people who run a travel agency now. Maybe you should stop using these American
00:32:15.200
airlines because they're raising their salescapes.
00:32:17.880
Yeah, man. Yeah. And COPA's adding a bunch of new U.S. destinations this summer. Just saying,
00:32:27.480
Yeah. And Air Canada. Lufthansa. They're so buttoned up.
00:32:31.020
Yeah. But I don't know. They're in Europe. I wouldn't trust them.
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Anyway, love you to Desimone. Have a spectacular day.