Based Camp - An Anthropology of The Woke Right (Why You Need US)

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be discussing

00:00:04.820 the concept of the woke right and how it has evolved to be a tool to attack people like you

00:00:13.140 and me. And we are also going to be discussing the play-by-play of a piece that has sort of

00:00:18.580 gone viral on this that is a tool for how the non-woke right can attack and destroy people

00:00:25.080 like you and me. Okay. When the term was first popularized by James Lindsay, I don't know if

00:00:32.100 he coined it, but the broad, vague idea is it was for sort of right-wing extremists who used some

00:00:39.520 tactics that reminded them of the left, like not really engaging in debates, not really engaging

00:00:44.340 on the other side critically, etc. Identity politics, right? Identity politics, yeah. It has dramatically

00:00:50.020 evolved since then as a concept to mean the new right as a political movement, to very explicitly

00:00:58.040 attack people like you and me. And so to give you what I mean, I'll be reading a bit from the piece

00:01:03.400 here. Obviously, I skip around to the center where it gets into the meat of the topic. The woke right

00:01:09.580 stands at the door. And so they say, the MAGA right has strange and sinister qualities which look

00:01:16.960 nothing like the traditional religious wing of conservatism familiar from our era of William

00:01:22.500 F. Buckley or anti-government libertarian conservatism of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.

00:01:28.480 It's anarchic rejection of truth. It's Nietzschean-esque embrace of power as self-justifying.

00:01:34.840 It's unashamed anti-liberalism. And it's glee and transgressing boundaries and giving offense

00:01:40.900 are something new to the right. And I'm going to stop there before I go into the next part,

00:01:44.880 I'd actually say everything he says so far is exactly this channel. Not the traditional

00:01:52.360 religious right. Certainly, we're not libertarian either. We have criticized libertarianism. The

00:01:57.360 rejection of what he calls truth. Now, keep in mind, when he says truth, he'll get into what he

00:02:02.640 means by that later. He means the truth that's decided on by the elites, basically. And how dare

00:02:08.700 they question what us and the intellectuals say. Oh, come on. Really?

00:02:15.120 To protect the world from devastation. To unite all peoples within our nation. To denounce the

00:02:20.640 evils of truth and love. To extend our reach to the stars above.

00:02:25.720 The Nietzschean embrace of power as self-justifying. First, we're fans of Nietzsche. We've said this in

00:02:31.660 other videos. Not enough to pronounce his name correctly. I read his stuff and I thought it was

00:02:37.060 good. It was more like I went to his stuff while we were doing a podcast because I was like,

00:02:40.500 how bad can this really be? And I'm like, oh, this all sounds fairly inoffensive and like

00:02:46.140 decent advice. And even that niche guy, decent advice. Yeah, niche. Look, I'm not going to dirty my

00:02:53.660 mouth with un-American words or sounds. Okay. I mean, transgressing boundaries with like a joke like

00:03:01.100 that, right? You know, sort of playing into this. The idea of power is self-justifying. Well,

00:03:05.840 I wouldn't say that the do-right sees power as just self-justifying. It does see power as,

00:03:10.700 and we'll get into this because we're also going to get into in this video, the concept of,

00:03:15.380 is there such a thing as, like, should we hold to the concept of no enemies to the right?

00:03:23.060 Is it a reference to the phalanx? Oh, it might be. But the point of it means,

00:03:30.780 it's like the right wing and the right wing generally doesn't, is it doesn't eat its own

00:03:34.580 in the way the left wing does. And it's like, let's not start that in the way these people

00:03:39.400 trying to coin this new, this woke right. Otherwise you'll break the line. That's why

00:03:44.800 it was to the right. But I will say, and we'll get into this later. Okay. Yeah. Is there is actually

00:03:52.100 utility in being able to call out certain types of right wing beliefs as damaging and traitorous.

00:03:59.580 Yeah. And here I'll get into, I'll use sort of Nick Foyntes as an avatar for this is specifically

00:04:05.380 we need to, well, we shouldn't call out an individual for having beliefs that are extremely

00:04:12.580 right wing. I think that just shutting down conversation, not engaging with that stuff.

00:04:16.160 I think that's bad, right? Yeah, totally. But, but if you come to the table and you use the right wing

00:04:23.300 sort of social media ecosystem to build a platform, and then you start to say, if the mainstream right

00:04:30.020 wing organizations like the president and stuff like that, don't capitulate to my vision of the

00:04:35.140 right wing party, I will tell my voters, which he did to not vote for mainstream conservative

00:04:40.400 candidates. You're just, and I'd even say that all of that is okay. Up into the point where the

00:04:46.660 direction you want them to shift could never win an actual election cycle. And if you're playing this

00:04:52.780 game and it's clearly not like, even if I secretly held all of your beliefs, I would not be doing the

00:04:58.260 things you're doing because they are directly counter to your own stated beliefs. And so if you

00:05:03.640 are doing them, it must mean you don't really hold those beliefs and you're just sort of parasitizing 1.00

00:05:08.020 the right wing social media landscape to build the clout yourself, or you're just incredibly stupid 1.00

00:05:13.420 and can't think five steps ahead. But I'm going to guess it's the first one. And then we'll get 1.00

00:05:17.060 into evidence for that and other things here. So I do think we do need to be able to say when

00:05:21.040 somebody is regularly telling their followers to not vote or not regularly, if they ever use the

00:05:25.740 goodwill of the right to build a right wing audience and then tell their followers not to vote for

00:05:30.120 mainstream right wing politicians, especially if it's over insane things like Trump's VP being in an

00:05:36.840 interracial marriage. Buddy, if we go back to a party against interracial marriages, you're not going to win

00:05:42.240 any election cycle, even if only Republicans are voting. But we'll get into all that in a second.

00:05:47.580 But so the reason why I was just going over all this, you know, transgressing boundaries with

00:05:51.500 Greece, anti-liberalism, a lot of people see a lot of our philosophy because we've done videos where we

00:05:56.080 talk about the benefits of monarchy, where we talk about the benefits of social systems, where it's not

00:06:01.480 one individual, one vote, where we talk about ways that capitalism could fail us, because we're open to

00:06:06.420 criticizing these questions. And then the old right just wasn't open to questioning or criticizing these

00:06:10.720 things. And you see this across the right now, you know, whether it's Curtis Garvin, mainstream

00:06:14.180 right wing monarchist, who's been on our show. So obviously, you know, aligned with us, or the

00:06:19.420 aristocratic utensil, you know, another monarchist who's been on the show. And so when they say the

00:06:23.740 woke right now, they're talking about you, me, and our friends. And they're saying, why can't we just go

00:06:30.220 back to that theocratic system, that libertarian system, that was still aristocratic and elitist,

00:06:36.820 where we held sway. Wow. But this morning, I just listened to Barry Weiss's interview with the

00:06:46.080 author of the Free Press's piece on the rise of the woke right. And this is Regan text realizing so

00:06:53.380 many of the things that the author was saying. Because he, yeah, he was really arguing that this

00:07:00.140 is identity politics, and it's just white nationalists, and it's, they're coming for your

00:07:04.900 sons. But then, you know, he was talking about various instances, where there were people who

00:07:12.160 were like a radicalized headmaster at his sons, I think it was a classical Christian school. And like,

00:07:18.980 he, yeah, he was clearly identifying as one of those more old guard, 90s, Republican Christians

00:07:27.000 who wanted to legislate their values upon other people, whether or not they held his same religious

00:07:32.880 beliefs. So wow. Yeah. Which is not cool, from our perspective. Yeah. Get off my lawn.

00:07:41.040 And I'd also note here that they try to police the arguments that you can make. So they'll say

00:07:48.180 something like, the woke right is, you know, white nationalists, when they're generally not white

00:07:53.800 nationalists, because they play identity politics, right? Like, but they would play us as playing

00:07:59.740 identity politics. Because we've pointed out before, right, like, there genuinely is a sort of

00:08:06.940 evolved cabal of interests that victimizes straight white males throughout most of the West. And you are

00:08:14.000 trying to set up the game board to say that we can't say that, that we can't see that we might have

00:08:20.860 a shared common interest with anyone else who's victimized for this same reason. Now, no, this isn't

00:08:27.440 just straight white males who are black males are victimized by this system. White women are 1.00

00:08:32.460 victimized by this as well. White women are probably one group that's not, let's say Chinese women are 0.99

00:08:37.020 victimized by this system. You know, a lot of people are victimized by this system and have common cause

00:08:42.600 to, to recognize that they are. But when you point out that we're not allowed to recognize that,

00:08:48.760 and we're not allowed to have in-group preference as a system for record for, for fighting that,

00:08:53.180 you're sort of defanging one of the core arguments you can make that's not in the traditional

00:08:58.580 theocratic camp of arguments to prevent us from having relevance. And yet it is absolutely something

00:09:06.020 we need to recognize within the current world. But I want to get back to the thing that they're

00:09:10.320 getting fundamentally wrong. And it's glee of transgressing boundaries and giving offense or

00:09:14.120 something new on the right, an embrace of postmodernism, which until recently was exclusively property of

00:09:20.300 the illiberal left. And this is what they're all getting wrong. They keep associating, and you'll

00:09:24.400 see this throughout this, is the new right or the woke right, as they call it, with postmodernism.

00:09:31.880 And they draw this because they see our glee and transgression values. If you look at our video

00:09:37.180 on the aesthetics of the new right we did with Roy Agnationalist and sort of the aesthetics of

00:09:42.460 his magazine, Man's World, you look at the art of this, you see tons of boundary transgressions.

00:09:49.960 You see integration of AI and anime with our memes and everything like that, which people see as like

00:09:55.780 low culture and vulgar, and they're trying to police us into not using these things. But we don't do it

00:10:00.760 for the reasons that the postmodernists do it. Essentially, and I looked up, like, what's the

00:10:06.800 definition of postmodernism? Because if you're watching this and you're like, what is postmodernism?

00:10:10.580 Postmodernism is characterized by a rejection of grand narratives and universal truths associated with

00:10:16.460 modernism. And we'll get into what modernism is within these guys' minds and everything like that.

00:10:20.380 And they're confuting anti-elitism, i.e. we reject their social norms with rejecting all social norms.

00:10:31.500 So they basically came and they go, why won't you play with the rules that we set up? Oh, you refuse to

00:10:39.200 play by my rules, the rules of the elite. Therefore, you must be anti-rule altogether. You seem to glee

00:10:46.120 in violating my rules. Therefore, you must not have any system of ethics or rules. And that's not true.

00:10:53.860 We have a new system of ethics or rules that we are convergently evolving into. A great example of

00:11:01.040 this that I've mentioned with Man's World is they did something originally that we did originally,

00:11:05.880 which is that they published, you know, breaking rules, old Playboy-like images, like vintage stuff,

00:11:12.240 right? Because it's like classy, classic American, transgression boundaries. But then people are like,

00:11:17.420 look, I want to use this at the coffee table book. I have kids in my house. Like, I understand why

00:11:22.440 you're doing this, but I want this to be something that's consumable by kids. And in our video, we used

00:11:27.280 to curse and insert clips where people curse quite frequently. And now I try pretty hard to remove all

00:11:32.180 curse words from our episodes because some people were like, hey, kids watch this. And so we are vulgar

00:11:37.000 in that we transgress boundaries. And we may talk about sex and sexuality, honestly. And we may talk about

00:11:40.940 kinks, honestly, but we don't insert vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity, right? And you see this in,

00:11:48.940 you know, rye nationalists, intentionally not using punctuation correctly, intentionally not using 0.70

00:11:52.960 grammar correctly. He's doing this to thumb his nose at the elite institutions, right?

00:11:59.720 Yeah. And people with degrees from elite institutions sometimes choosing to adopt anonymous identities to

00:12:06.680 hide the fact that they went to them. Yeah.

00:12:08.600 Yeah. And you see this across the new right. You see, obviously, what's his face went to Yale,

00:12:13.620 the one who were just, no, Bronze Age pervert, rye nationalists, Oxford and Cambridge after he was 0.92

00:12:17.960 doxxed. Like, you just keep saying that after these people get doxxed, they are smart. They beat the old

00:12:22.760 system. They could be using the old system as a crutch in the way that this guy does, but they don't

00:12:27.340 because they want to play by the new rules, the rules where only your ideas matter, right? And I think

00:12:33.440 that these guys, guys like this, they don't like that, right? And so they're, and so we'll keep

00:12:39.860 going into this, but fortunately for us, because we're going to go into his entire game plan,

00:12:45.500 his entire game plan rests on misunderstanding that the new right has no social norms and is

00:12:51.640 genuinely postmodern, except that it has a new set of social norms that is incredibly against high

00:12:57.540 culture, you know, opera, academia, culture, but this is the right way to do things. This is the

00:13:03.840 wrong way to do things because we learned that those forms of culture were used by the urban

00:13:07.600 monoculture as a lure to entice people. They said, if you want to be high class, you want to go to the

00:13:12.840 opera, you need to speak and act and not hold these beliefs and not say things like this and not question

00:13:20.160 these things. And we're like, oh, you found a way to use all of this against us. We're not playing that

00:13:26.140 game anymore. Thoughts before I go further. No, keep going. And then he goes on to say,

00:13:34.000 a generation ago, normies in the academy and other elite cultural institutions failed to see the

00:13:39.480 postmodern left for what it was. And so they were run over, but from their failure can be gleaned the

00:13:45.220 postmodern rights weakness today and we can exploit them. So they're coming at us. These old fogies, 0.72

00:13:51.380 these boomer rights, okay. They are one of our enemies and they've stated ourselves. We will go 1.00

00:13:57.300 anti-right where we can, if we can use it to maintain the boomer status quo. 0.89

00:14:03.360 If we can keep you from theorizing about is like, like in the same way that the woke said, oh, there's,

00:14:09.580 there's questions and things you're not allowed to muse. They say, you can't muse whether democracy

00:14:14.180 actually works. You can, you know, whether it's actually the best system anymore. Now that we have AI

00:14:18.640 and other tools, you know, you can't muse about human genetics. You can't muse about like, we

00:14:25.020 decided that those were topics you're not allowed to talk about. You know, you can't muse about where

00:14:30.140 human sexuality, you know, how it works because that's not something right-wing thinkers do. And 0.99

00:14:34.880 I'm like, well, then you left a huge gaping window that the left has used to bludgeon us

00:14:38.620 for the past 50 years. Yeah. You know, we're, we're engaging with this stuff because you guys

00:14:45.880 failed. Your system failed. Your beliefs failed. It led to the rise. All of this horribleness that

00:14:52.520 we're dealing with now grew on your rotting corpse. Yeah. Under their watch. And I guess, 0.71

00:14:59.120 but it only makes sense so that they would, there would be some kind of death row. There would be some

00:15:03.300 type of desperate attempt to reclaim control or fight back against that, which is replacing them.

00:15:11.560 Yeah. One of the funniest things I'll often find is, is the person who often gets targeted as like

00:15:15.980 the new, the woke right guy. And I think it's just because he's decided to fight back against this

00:15:21.180 concept, which good on him for doing this is, uh, what's his, his name? He does Lotus Eaters, Sargon of

00:15:26.660 Akkad. Oh. And, and what's funny, I was finding funny about Sargon of Akkad. If you look at Sargon of Akkad,

00:15:32.780 like actual values and, and policy, I think he would frame us as being like left-wing people in

00:15:39.980 a right-wing space. If you actually look at our values rather than, than what we say or our public

00:15:45.060 opinion, we are to the right of him. The only space that I can find where he's significantly to the

00:15:51.060 right of us is on abortion. And I'd say that we are right of center on abortion because we definitely

00:15:56.420 want a lot more restrictions on it, but we're not for life being as a conception. And I think that

00:16:00.640 he's at around that area. Well, he's actually an atheist and we are quite religious now. When we

00:16:05.660 started our influence lives, the atheists, I even go so far as it calls for religious extremists now, 0.99

00:16:09.360 which puts us also in quite a more conservative camp, but because our religion is different,

00:16:14.140 other people are like, eh, but it's probably no different than a conservative Mormon or something.

00:16:18.440 So, you know, but I, but I always find that interesting that somehow he's known as this far

00:16:23.040 right person, but it's actually just because he rose to fame during the era of cancellation.

00:16:28.320 I mean, during the era of YouTube demonetization and everything like that. And so he was like

00:16:33.620 defenestrated for pretty milquetoast views, which is kind of sad, right? Like he paved the ray for a

00:16:40.280 lot of the rest of us, but you might be thinking, oh, it's just this one piece who frames the woke

00:16:44.680 right as postmodern. So I'm gonna go to another piece. This is a, is there a woke right by the

00:16:50.020 American reformer? Um, and they were quoting somebody else. Oh, so they say, for example,

00:16:55.420 in 2020, I succinctly defined wokeness as a society is divided into oppressed and oppressor groups

00:17:01.400 along lines of race, class, gender, sexuality, et cetera. Now note, he wants to prevent people from

00:17:07.620 saying that, right? That's a problem. If society is literally divided into oppressed and oppressor

00:17:14.880 class groups. And one of the oppressed groups is white, straight people and males, right? Like

00:17:21.500 there clearly is a social hierarchy of ethnicities and genders and sexual orientations within the

00:17:28.820 urban monoculture. And he's like, you are on the woke, right? If you call that out hegemonic power,

00:17:35.720 but privileged people are blind. So three, we need to defer to the lived experiences of the

00:17:41.580 marginalized to four dismantle the unjust systems. Basically he's saying, you can't call out the

00:17:47.480 current system that we're under right now, or you're in the woke, right? And this was something

00:17:51.660 that a lot of the old right people started reading about when people went out there and been like,

00:17:55.400 no, the system is rigged against men right now. There is an earning gap, a pay gap among youth.

00:18:01.100 Apparently this was something we needed to panic about when it was women for young men right now. 0.92

00:18:05.420 There is? Whoa, really? I didn't know that. So for like college grads,

00:18:10.860 yeah, there's an employment gap. There's a, obviously getting into college gap. There's

00:18:15.680 an education gap. It's just sort of all across the board. Young men are obviously systemically

00:18:19.320 discriminated against society. Yeah. I didn't know there was a pay gap though. Honestly,

00:18:23.240 I just figured like if anything that the college gap was favorable, maybe it would drive more young

00:18:28.560 men into the trades, which are lucrative and practical and going to do better. I think initially

00:18:33.680 with AI anyway, so. Yeah. And then he goes on here and he says, so from here, he seeks to redefine

00:18:41.580 woke right in precisely analogous terms. One, society is divided into straight white men and 0.99

00:18:46.320 their enemies. Now, very few like well-known people on the woke right here would say straight white men

00:18:53.500 and their enemies. We would say the convergence. This is a bit like saying the left is about,

00:18:58.060 you know, trans black gay women and their enemies. And it's like, no, it's about all of 1.00

00:19:04.800 the intersecting discriminated groups that have some reason to want equality to be reintroduced

00:19:10.480 to our society. Right. So it is straight men and white men and other, and there's a lot of other,

00:19:17.760 like Asian men are, are in terms of college admission, for example, much more discriminated

00:19:22.640 against than white men. Jews are more discriminated against in some contexts, simply because they

00:19:26.940 outperform other groups, just about any group that is generally speaking, outperforming other groups

00:19:30.840 due to more work. You know, as we pointed out with Asian groups, they just spend a lot more time 0.99

00:19:34.880 working on homework. I think it was like 11 extra hours a week. And I was like, yeah, like, okay,

00:19:40.160 I get it. They're trying to normalize for that, remove that from them. So they're trying to,

00:19:45.340 why do they need to take this weapon away from us? Because when they do, then they can bring the

00:19:49.040 right conversation back to only let's impose our theocratic norms. Let's remove regulation. 1.00

00:19:55.380 Right. Instead of let's try to build a society that works. And then two hegemonic norms, the long

00:20:01.580 house, post-war consensus, Judeo-Christianity, but normies are blind. So three, we need to red pill

00:20:07.940 them. Four, retake the West. Okay. But here's the thing. The West has been conquered by the urban 0.99

00:20:14.760 monoculture. This is very obvious. This is a new cultural movement. If you value, if you view your

00:20:21.280 culture as an iteration of the ancient Western tradition, and keep in mind, there's many,

00:20:24.440 they pretend like there's one ancient Western tradition. Like for example, the most base level,

00:20:29.060 the Protestant tradition and the Catholic tradition are not the same tradition. The Orthodox tradition

00:20:33.460 is not the same tradition. The Jewish tradition is not the same tradition. We are all allied together

00:20:37.640 as descendants of a tradition that used to allow multiple groups that were different from each

00:20:43.540 other to work together in harmony because the fire nation attacked, you know, the urban monoculture

00:20:49.440 came along and said, no, there can only be one way of thinking and one way of acting. And if you look at

00:20:53.200 one of the things that made the ancient Western tradition unique, like you look at the early

00:20:56.640 Americas, it was many highly diverse groups. And I talked to people today who like, just don't know

00:21:02.460 their history. And they're like, come on, early America wasn't as diverse as modern American. I'm

00:21:08.440 like, no, it was culturally significantly more diverse. If you're contrasting Quaker and Cavalier views

00:21:14.420 on just about anything or Quaker and Puritan or Puritan and Cavalier or Cavalier and Backwoods,

00:21:20.240 all of these cultures were, I mean, no one in America today are very few. You're not gonna have

00:21:25.500 like a major cultural region in the US. It's like, well, yeah, some humans should be owned by other

00:21:29.500 humans because there are a genetic sub-race, you know, but that was common back then. And it was

00:21:34.480 like an excellent... They must be referring to racial diversity then, I guess, right?

00:21:39.980 No, no. They have this myth of America as a Christian nation. When they don't understand that

00:21:45.680 Christianity was in Quakerism was probably as distant... I would say that these two things are 0.99

00:21:52.820 as distant from each other, like if you're viewing Quaker Christianity and Puritan Christianity,

00:21:57.580 as set... What is it? Roman mass Catholics and Unitarian Universalism.

00:22:03.120 Oh, yeah. No, super, super different. Well, and then you had the Cavaliers in the South who kind of

00:22:07.380 didn't really care. They were just the second sons who were looking to make a fortune.

00:22:12.400 So yeah, there was massive religious diversity. Like you had two religious extremists who were

00:22:19.700 super against the Church of England, didn't like what they were doing. And then you had the guys

00:22:23.880 who were like, yeah, I'm fine with the Church of England. What a state had I inherited the house,

00:22:29.400 you know? But what I'm pointing out here is they're coming to the table saying you can't point out that

00:22:35.000 something like a long house exists, that something like Judeo-Christian value systems exists,

00:22:39.720 that something like the urban monoculture exists, and that they are our enemies.

00:22:44.420 That's crazy.

00:22:45.340 And you can't point out that people need to be red-pilled or woken up to that our mainstream

00:22:49.160 narratives are wrong, right? Like this is what they come to the table whiz because they want

00:22:54.680 to undermine us. These people are not like of the right-wing movement. You can try to come up with a

00:23:01.880 phrase for them. But I think like in the same way that they call the woke right, people are like,

00:23:07.440 they're not real right. It's not that they're real right. I guess boomer right. They're boomer right.

00:23:11.820 Christian caliphate. 0.91

00:23:13.880 No, they're not. Because there are extremist Christians on the woke right. There are good 1.00

00:23:18.260 guy extremist Christians, right? 0.83

00:23:20.180 Yeah.

00:23:20.500 So they're not that. They are boomer right. They want to recreate the right that created the 0.87

00:23:26.140 wokes. That the wokes already beat. You had your shot, guys. And yes, I am Nishian. And I view

00:23:32.100 your weakness with disgust. But yeah, so it's not just them that are enemies. I have also noted,

00:23:36.920 and I don't like think anything bad about Nick Foyntes. Nick Foyntes was one of the first

00:23:40.600 mainstream figures to talk about us. He talked about us in positive terms. I think that he's

00:23:45.380 sort of doing a shtick, similar to what Andrew Tate is. As we note, I sort of think Andrew Tate

00:23:51.160 became the shtick. He reminds me of the guy in Tropic Thunder who forgot if he was playing a

00:23:55.740 character or not anymore.

00:23:56.760 For 400 years, that work has kept us down.

00:24:03.280 What the?

00:24:04.080 Took a whole lot of time just to get up that hill. Now we up in the big leagues.

00:24:10.980 Kidding our turnipats. Long as we live it to you and me, baby.

00:24:16.160 That's the theme song for the Jeffersons. You really need help.

00:24:19.660 Yeah, just because the theme song don't make it not true.

00:24:21.480 I know he's just the character every day when he wakes up. I don't, I think Nick Foyntes is very

00:24:28.340 aware of what he's doing, but I don't, I think that part of me makes me even sadder that he's doing

00:24:34.140 it because he knows that his views hurt our overall chances of winning and he's more concerned with his

00:24:39.940 status. You know, like trying to make anti-Semitism institutional to right-wing institutions.

00:24:44.980 Even if you and I were secretly anti-Semitic, we wouldn't push that because it wouldn't,

00:24:49.980 you need to win the incremental victories first, even if that's your long-term goal.

00:24:53.960 Well, do you think maybe, maybe he sees it as trying to move the Overton window. Like he knows

00:24:58.260 it's not going to lead to any real progress, but he just is trying to change what people think is

00:25:04.240 even if that was the case and he wouldn't tell people not to vote for Trump, but he seems to

00:25:08.740 sincerely, and keep in mind, you can look at our videos of the bigots turned against Trump,

00:25:11.860 you know, Leather Apron Club did the same thing. Don't vote for Trump. David Duke did the same

00:25:16.320 thing. Richard Spencer did the same thing. We've sort of seen this across this sort of group that

00:25:20.840 went really far in this one direction. So it was not just like Nick Foyntes who was doing this.

00:25:24.760 I think all of these guys can be perfectly pleasant human beings. I think a lot of them are

00:25:28.660 intellectual powerhouses. I really like Leather Apron Club as a thinker, but I think that at the end of

00:25:34.200 the day, if you gave somebody a knife once and they stabbed you in the back, you can never give them a knife

00:25:38.900 again. That's the problem, right? Like if they oppose our collective interest, because they know

00:25:45.220 Donald Trump winning is better than Kamala winning, like from their own stated value set. So either

00:25:49.660 they're lying about their value set, or they don't actually care about that value set. They just care

00:25:53.620 about using people. I'm just trying to think if there's any other thing. Maybe if they think that

00:25:58.040 if there's four more years for unrest to be fomented among the right, then they will be even

00:26:04.300 stronger. Like there's something, there's an inherent weakening that takes place when your

00:26:08.860 side has won and you become indolent. I'm just trying to think through what else it could possibly

00:26:14.700 be, because it just seems so otherwise... Intentionally self-serving? Yeah.

00:26:22.080 Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, a lot of these people have sort of been pushed out of the mainstream

00:26:27.000 right or the woke right, because when the right has more solidified our alliance with Israel,

00:26:36.460 which was really sort of forced through these recent wars, i.e. forced to pick a side. And before,

00:26:41.960 a lot of people on the right didn't really feel like they had to pick a side. And they saw, oh,

00:26:45.520 the left is the anti-Israel party. I'm enough anti-Semitic that now I'm conflicted and it might 0.93

00:26:51.240 be worth supporting the left. So I think that's what we're getting here. But let's go back to this

00:26:55.260 guy's writings, because I think it's really interesting. This is back to the original article

00:26:58.740 here on how they're going to defeat us. In his 2004 book, Explaining Postmodernism, Stephen R. Hicks

00:27:04.700 posits three categories of thought about how the world has historically been ordered,

00:27:09.640 pre-modern, modern, and post-modern, where pre-modernism emphasizes faith, hierarchy,

00:27:14.240 and duty to God. Modernism emphasizes reason, individualism, and autonomy. And post-modernism,

00:27:21.120 in turn, sees reason as a sham, authority as a mass for power, and groups as prior to individuals.

00:27:27.320 Now, what's interesting to this is if you looked at the core actual ideology of the woke right,

00:27:33.780 it very clearly falls under not pre-modernism, faith, hierarchy, and duty to God, but much closer

00:27:41.560 to reason, individualism, and autonomy, or what he calls modernism. But it doesn't reject the two

00:27:47.980 other systems. And this is what he's getting wrong, right? He thinks, in the old mindset,

00:27:52.940 you have to choose one of these. Whereas what we say is, we say, I believe in reason, individualism,

00:27:58.880 and autonomy as core political values. But I think that also, I need faith, hierarchy, and a duty to

00:28:05.600 God. And I also agree with what the post-modernist says. Some people can use reason as a sham as they

00:28:13.080 have captured the institutions that define what's true and what's not true. Authority can be a mask

00:28:18.360 to power, and many groups are using it as that right now. And groups do exist and have the capability

00:28:24.800 of opposing my interests. And fair, yeah. To protect the world from devastation. To unite all peoples

00:28:34.120 within our nation. To denounce the evils of truth and love. To extend our reach to the stars above.

00:28:40.860 Traditionalism, or Hick's equivalent to it, anchors truth in holy books and prophets. It sees people as

00:28:46.020 spiritual beings in a divinely ordered world. Traditionalism is ancient, whereas modernism takes its cues

00:28:51.300 from the enlightenment. Truth is what can be seen and provided. Reason and evidence supplant

00:28:56.720 spiritualism, tribalism, and subjective intuition. And here what I note is, I agree. Reason and evidence

00:29:03.820 do supplant, in the new right view, in the woke right's view, spiritualism, tribalism, and subjective

00:29:09.580 intuition. But they do not supplant holy books and prophets. Yeah. You can supplant, you can say,

00:29:18.700 holy books and prophets have value. Tradition has value, whereas spiritualism, tribalism, and

00:29:24.680 subjective intuition do not. That's like the core thing we rail against on this channel.

00:29:31.260 Postmodernism is a new come. Emerging in post-war Europe, it adopts radical skeptical epistemology,

00:29:36.780 viewing claims to capital T truth, as Tafel puts it, as assertions of power, efforts by dominant social

00:29:43.320 actors to impose and legitimize their own, often oppressive agendas. Whereas you see a truth claim,

00:29:51.540 you should unmask it, look behind it, to see whom it might benefit. Now, here I'm saying, why is it bad

00:29:57.360 that we would want to do this? If somebody comes to me and they say, this thing is true, he's basically

00:30:01.980 saying, if somebody more powerful than you, with more degrees than you, with more institutional power

00:30:06.760 to you, comes to you and says, this is true, you shouldn't then ask, who is this benefiting,

00:30:12.660 this norm that you just created? Yeah.

00:30:15.140 Who is it benefiting to say that men and women are actually exactly the same? 0.99

00:30:19.460 Who is it benefiting? Right? Who is it benefiting to say that there are,

00:30:25.180 this is something that we need to ask whenever we hear something like this, so we can understand why

00:30:29.240 somebody might have a motivation to push a particular agenda.

00:30:31.900 Yeah, absolutely. And yet he's saying you can't do that. That's postmodern. You can't do that.

00:30:39.300 Now, I would note you shouldn't pathologically do it. You shouldn't assume that nothing is true.

00:30:43.440 But if anybody comes to you and says, this is true, because I have more authority to you rather

00:30:48.520 than because of reason or logic, that is something you should be questioning. Scientific modernism

00:30:53.840 wants to assess claims, not claimants. Postmodernism reverses the emphasis. Who were the scientists,

00:31:00.440 says Toffle? What color were they? What gender? What country were they in? What biases do they have?

00:31:06.520 He's saying you can't ask those questions. But you need to. It matters. If I have a study and it says

00:31:14.620 Crest toothpaste is the best toothpaste ever, and I know to the guy and I go, was there any chance

00:31:20.500 that this was put out by Crest scientists working on a Crest grant? And the person is like, well,

00:31:27.340 that's a pretty racist question to ask. You're like, it's not a racist question to ask.

00:31:33.440 It matters. Was it the Crest scientists? But it matters just as much if you're talking about

00:31:38.180 in-group thing. If I read a report saying, you know, Catholics are the best. Everybody loves

00:31:43.560 the Catholics and is put out by the Vatican or by like Notre Dame's university. I mean, 0.70

00:31:47.980 Notre Dame is super woke now, but you know what I mean? Like old school. I'm going to need to have

00:31:51.140 some skepticism around that. But I can't do that when it's an ethnic group.

00:31:57.320 What if a Chinese scientist put out a paper in China saying Chinese people are better than

00:32:03.040 every other ethnic group? That could happen. You don't think that I should take into account 0.98

00:32:08.080 that a Chinese scientist did that? What these people are trying to do is use core arguments

00:32:15.860 in the same way the left does, like simple arguments, like a Chinese report that comes

00:32:21.700 out from China saying Chinese people are better than everyone else, that if I call that out,

00:32:26.900 I'm a racist. They are trying to defang us of individual arguments here, individual pathways

00:32:33.360 of argument until there's nothing left, but their old system that they used in the fifties and

00:32:39.120 sexism. Wow. Then to continue. You see what I mean there? This whole woke right thing was more

00:32:46.380 insidious than you think. Yeah. Yikes. Yes. But when the enemy proverbially controls the definers of

00:32:54.820 truth within a culture, you know that, and I know that, and you tell me that, oh, sorry,

00:32:59.680 this is something I wrote and I just said all that. Oh, actually, I actually think it's a good point,

00:33:03.020 so I'll read it. Yes. But when the enemy proverbially controls the definers of truth within a culture,

00:33:08.760 and you know, and I knew that they do, and you tell me, I cannot question them. You are showing

00:33:14.700 your hand. You are the enemy, which is the truth about these people. When they say you can't question

00:33:19.220 dominant narratives, they're showing they are setting the dominant narratives. In fact, I wouldn't

00:33:25.040 be surprised if any of these people vote against Trump and just say that they, they are, they are on

00:33:28.700 our side. But anyway, radical skepticism is like the acid that eats through every container. And sure

00:33:34.140 enough, postmodernism skepticism undermined itself. How could it be for anything if all truth claims,

00:33:40.580 including its own, are mass for power? The answer came in what Pluckos and Lindsay identify as a

00:33:48.100 second wave of postmodernism, which handily enough exempted itself from skepticism. Identity and

00:33:53.940 oppression now took center stage. Society is best understood not as an association of autonomous

00:33:58.140 individuals, but as conjugaries of groups contending for dominance and organized into hierarchies.

00:34:05.000 The third wave thus came to embrace exactly that sort of dogmatism and authoritarianism,

00:34:09.780 which the first wave of postmodernism had set out to challenge and overthrow.

00:34:14.820 Well, I see that this happened on the left, but that's not why we're throwing things out. We're not

00:34:19.680 throwing them out reflexively in the way that previous groups are. We are throwing them out as a matter of

00:34:25.540 self-protection. We are examining them. We are saying people have used authority to mask things.

00:34:30.560 People have used truce claims to mask hidden agendas, and therefore it's worth questioning them.

00:34:35.600 And people have used high culture and saying this is vulgar and that's vulgar to control our actions.

00:34:41.660 Absolutely.

00:34:42.360 They define questioning these things. Like this entire string of questions I've been asking is a vulgar

00:34:47.340 string of questions for a old right tea party, right? You know, or whatever the F it is that they'd head.

00:34:53.920 All right. So then to skip ahead, because it was unmoored from any commitment to objectivity or

00:34:59.420 consistency, you could work both sides of every street. Even better, it's radical skepticism. Here

00:35:06.720 he's talking about the original wokeism, rejection of norms, and revolutionary energy made it seemingly

00:35:11.880 impervious to rational arguments and moral objections. A perfect rhetorical fortress, as George

00:35:17.140 Luca and Ricky Schofield call it. Now note here, he's talking about you can't be radically skeptic. I think

00:35:21.860 we need to be radically skeptic in a world where the dominant cultural force has basically said,

00:35:27.360 it's our enemy, right?

00:35:28.820 Yeah.

00:35:29.140 We need to reject cultural norms when the dominant cultural force is our enemy, because they set

00:35:34.660 the cultural norms. And doing both of those gives us revolutionary energy. That doesn't mean that we

00:35:39.860 are anti-rational argument. It means you need to actually make that rational argument and just say

00:35:44.300 that you are confronting cultural norms. Yeah. Objecting to woke's hypocrisy, inconsistency,

00:35:50.840 and empirical shoddiness got you mocked, disqualified, and personally attacked. However, 0.84

00:35:55.780 philosophically unintelligible woke may have been, its rhetorical virality and sheer aggressiveness

00:36:01.240 conquered the intelligentsia with astonishing speed. And he's right about this, that that did happen,

00:36:06.980 but it doesn't undermine that we need to be skeptical and reject social norms to win.

00:36:13.840 Stephen Hecht's 2004 book on postmodernism, so now I'm reading from the book,

00:36:18.520 principles of civility and procedural justice simply serve as masks for hypocrisy and oppression

00:36:22.840 born of asymmetrical power relations, masks that can be ripped off by crude verbal and physical weapons,

00:36:29.560 ad hominem arguments in your face, shock tactics, and equally cynical power displays.

00:36:33.820 Disagreements are met not with arguments, the benefit of the doubt, and the expectation that

00:36:39.300 reason can prevail, but with assertion, animosity, and a willingness to resort to force. Having

00:36:44.580 rejected reason, we will not expect ourselves or others to behave reasonably. And again, here you can

00:36:50.780 note that this is trying to correlate skepticism with stuff like ad hominem arguments. Fighting against

00:36:59.480 powerful institutions as is a sort of pathology, right? A decade later, his description is very

00:37:06.460 accurately characterized in what might be called the alt-right. My own first glimpse of this strange

00:37:11.240 new phenomenon came in 2014 with the eruption of Gamergate, an episode in which anonymous trolls

00:37:16.700 heaped abuse and threats on a female game developer. Note the way here that this individual,

00:37:21.520 this individual who claims to be on the right, our ally... Is anti-Gamergate?

00:37:29.120 Gamergate, an episode in which anonymous trolls heaped abuse and threats on a female video game developer.

00:37:33.800 Oh, okay. He's not one of us. All right. Okay. Okay.

00:37:36.820 These people are our enemies. They are our... They're not our enemies as much as the traitors are our enemies,

00:37:42.200 because at least, presumably, they still vote our way. But we need to keep in mind that they are

00:37:47.420 coming for us and they have declared war against us, right? And I think a lot of the right needs to

00:37:53.740 pick a side, like, especially the theocratic factions, because they can find a home on either

00:37:57.820 side. They can either join people like this who want the old social norms back, who want to control

00:38:02.600 with power, or they can join the alliance, the diverse alliance, which represents what these people

00:38:07.680 call the woke right, which is okay with subverting cultural norms. And as we've noted in our other

00:38:12.100 stuff, this largely also came as a shift as the cultural power center of the right moved from,

00:38:17.420 the cavalier cultural region of the United States, to the deep south cultural region,

00:38:20.860 to the greater Appalachian or backwoods cultural region, which basically went from an aristocratic

00:38:26.700 cultural tradition to an anti-aristocratic cultural tradition, which you see in right wing.

00:38:31.900 Vulgarity is an anti-aristocratic thing to do. It's a way of signaling that you are not

00:38:35.980 attempting to play the mainstream power game. And that's why it's seen as authenticating authenticity

00:38:42.060 within what he calls the woke right. It's why Bronze Age Pervert intentionally misspells things. 0.92

00:38:48.380 It's why Zero HP Lovecraft intentionally breaks social conventions when he's talking.

00:38:53.340 While the campaign was not political, it codes as white, male, right wing, and aggressively subversive.

00:38:59.580 This is what he talked about Gamergate. Although better informed friends warned me to pay attention,

00:39:03.660 I shrugged off Gamergate as random online craziness. In reality, it debuted the joker-like nihilism of

00:39:10.460 the postmodern right. And I'll note here, everything he set up until then was right. It did, you know,

00:39:15.260 we've had episodes where we talk about how the modern right came from this moment, Gamergate.

00:39:19.580 But Gamergate, they were completely justified. Like, it was insane. A woman was sleeping with

00:39:24.380 games journalists, and they weren't disclosing this, and they were writing about it. And she was

00:39:28.220 cheating on her boyfriend the entire time. She wasn't exactly a bastion of the conservative

00:39:33.500 values that I think this man stands for, but he's still choosing to side with her, technically

00:39:40.380 speaking. Right. And right here, he's like, my friends warned me to pay attention to this.

00:39:46.780 I thought it was beneath me. Very much, he's signaling I am not the type who cares about what

00:39:51.420 goes on in gaming culture, right? Like, he's signaling why he doesn't engage with slow culture.

00:39:56.620 He goes to the opera. He goes to plays and Broadway, even though those have been the

00:40:03.500 vehicles of transmission of the woke mind virus, of the urban monoculture.

00:40:07.900 Yeah. Well, okay, I don't think opera is, but it's certainly been a status signaler among those

00:40:16.700 who are part of that community. But what he gets wrong is he says, in reality,

00:40:20.860 it debuted the joker-like nihilism of the postmodern right. Nothing could be further from the truth.

00:40:25.580 Nothing about the postmodern right is nihilistic. You can watch our episodes on this, but I'd argue

00:40:29.580 it's the exact opposite. It is extremely vital. It's vitalistic. Yeah. In the face of nihilism,

00:40:35.020 it says, no, we are proud of who we are. We will fight. We will endure. We will take the future.

00:40:39.500 Absolutely. Yeah. And he's like, but what about your weird, pervy anime art? And I'm like,

00:40:45.100 I'm not going to let you police what I think is cool. Yeah. I think Shinzo Aave saved Trump,

00:40:50.540 and- Shinzo. Big tittied anime girls look cool. And that, you know, Trump is a 1.00

00:40:59.100 BA with like missiles coming out of his mouth. You want to police how vitalistic I can be because you 0.69

00:41:05.420 see vitalism and a love of life without concern for your constraints as vulgar. Because you use

00:41:15.020 vulgarity to police other groups to force them to fit into your cultural norms.

00:41:23.420 Someone who did notice and appreciate what was happening was Angela Nagel, whose 2017 book,

00:41:29.420 Kill All Normies, presciently identified the convergence of the alt-right with the far left.

00:41:34.380 The alt-right, she observed, is a transgressive and rule breaking as the left once was. True. Like the

00:41:40.220 left, it gleefully subverts cultural norms, struck smug, ironic poses, and embraced harassment and

00:41:48.940 bullying. First of all, no, you really don't get that much bullying on the right, except when people

00:41:54.300 have doubled down on positions that explicitly hurt other individuals. The Gamergate stuff happened

00:42:00.460 because the girl who did all of this, when she was called out for it, didn't point out the fact

00:42:05.660 that she was using the fact that she was sleeping with people to screw over other indie game devs 0.98

00:42:11.020 in terms of not getting coverage. She didn't pull back. She immediately reached out and tried to

00:42:17.740 attack and ruin the lives of the people who were calling her out. That is, every time I have seen

00:42:22.940 the quote-unquote woke right fight back, it is because somebody else attacked first. If you look at the

00:42:28.700 Anna Valens, who was the most recent person canceled, who did all these attacks trying to 1.00

00:42:32.380 ruin Kirsha, the Fox VTuber's career. Again, like we don't care about your norms. We can be a VTuber.

00:42:38.220 We can be an anime, Fox, VTuber, whatever, right? Like she could be a mainstream figure of the woke

00:42:43.500 right. But we do that. And then some psycho comes in and tries to ruin our lives by lying about us,

00:42:49.980 with very normal takes. And we say, okay, F you, we can fight back. We're not afraid of fighting back. 0.94

00:42:56.460 They are, right? We understand that this isn't just about political battles, but people need

00:43:01.020 to understand the reason why we're not going to see VTubing eaten by the wokes in the same way 1.00

00:43:07.020 gaming was, or as fast as gaming was, or as fast as, you know, even with other fields like tabletop

00:43:11.500 gaming and comics, is because they didn't fight back. The first time somebody says, well, this is my

00:43:17.500 space. You know, we had the other time where somebody was canceled recently, which was a return of

00:43:21.500 shadows or like in love of shadows or something. The guy who did this big rant against conservative

00:43:26.620 YouTubers and saying that they're not welcome. Conservatives aren't welcome in the horror genre

00:43:32.140 space. It's like, how effing dare you? Because the moment one person gets away with this,

00:43:36.460 then other people do it. And then you really aren't welcome. You're not welcome at conventions

00:43:39.340 because people go and they call up the convention staff and everything like that. And he's saying,

00:43:42.620 you can't fight back because he's not on our side. He's like a, a person who's been injected

00:43:49.580 into the right, trying to get us to make all of the dumbest moves possible. When Milo Yiannopoulos, 0.98

00:43:54.460 a prominent right-wing influencer said, quote, birth control makes women unattractive and crazy, 0.98

00:43:59.100 end quote. Was he just kidding or being truly misogynistic? What the heck do you mean misogynistic? 0.96

00:44:04.860 Birth control can change women's physiology to an extent. Yeah. But sometimes for the better, 1.00

00:44:10.620 the, the one birth control that I was on the longest controlled acne. So I'm just saying.

00:44:16.460 Yeah. My experience less acne and less mood swings is generally for the better, but some women, 1.00

00:44:20.940 it just makes worse. Right. And we need to talk about this. Some girls, they don't understand 1.00

00:44:25.020 that birth control can have negative effects, right? Because it can also, especially profoundly

00:44:29.820 affect sex drive. So was Pepe the frog a lighthearted meme or a racist hate symbol?

00:44:35.980 It was, it was a lighthearted meme that you turned into a racist hate symbol.

00:44:39.900 It was a lighthearted meme about a racist hate symbol in the same way that 4chan was like,

00:44:43.820 let's see if we can turn the okay sign. Let's see if we can get wokies to see this as a racist hate

00:44:47.900 symbol. And then wokies did. And then a few bottom feeding, like actual racists started using it. 0.97

00:44:52.620 And wokies were like, oh, you see, that's our proof. It's like, no, really, we're just making fun of you 1.00

00:44:56.460 for, for freaking out about everything. We're violating your cultural norms because it's funny.

00:45:01.740 It's funny to watch you freak out. Like it is that spazzy kid in class.

00:45:05.660 Was triple parentheses around Jewish names, prankish trolling, or a veiled threat?

00:45:11.580 You just couldn't tell.

00:45:12.860 And really, because LOL, nothing matters. It's like, no, things do matter. It does matter that

00:45:20.700 people tried to use the claim that Pepe was racist to attack people who were playing around

00:45:27.740 with a lighthearted meme. They tried to police language of people like Milo to not be allowed

00:45:33.500 to question things like the effects of birth control, okay? That people weren't even allowed

00:45:37.900 to say, hey, why did Jews have disproportionate amounts of power in our society? That's not a

00:45:43.260 question you're allowed to ask in the old paradigm. Has this guy-

00:45:47.660 Oh, the old paradigm of boomer rights, you mean? 0.99

00:45:51.420 Yeah, the boomer right.

00:45:52.780 Because the boomer lofts are questioning stuff about Jews all the time. 0.97

00:45:57.740 The boomer, sorry, the left everyone is doing that.

00:46:01.660 One sees here the same subjectivism that became the hallmark of left postmodernism because the

00:46:07.020 objectivity is fiction. There is no single reality, but rather my reality and our reality contending

00:46:12.220 against your reality. It was no objective basis to choose. Narratives must struggle to dominate.

00:46:17.500 How to win in this context of narratives? The postmodern formula holds that language

00:46:21.420 constructs discourse. Discourse constructs power and power constructs reality. Manipulating what

00:46:27.100 people say thus manipulates reality itself. This explains the postmodern left's obsession with

00:46:32.220 language from neopronouns to terms like pregnant person. The idea that words are violence to the

00:46:38.860 idea that words are violence. And I mean, they're not wrong about this. That is a good strategy that

00:46:44.060 they were using. And then dot, dot, dot. And then he tries to parallel this in the woke right where

00:46:48.780 he says, consider in parallel how the Trump administration controls language. Already,

00:46:53.660 according to a recent report from Semaphore, quote, across the government, the Trump administration

00:46:58.220 has clamped down on language. Multiple agencies have ordered the removal of gendered pronouns and

00:47:02.540 from email signatures, while White House has said it won't respond to journalists who with pronouns in

00:47:07.580 their bio. They have. Oh, goodness gracious. Know what he's doing here. How he's defining the woke

00:47:13.900 right playbook you're not allowed to use. He's saying you're not allowed to criticize pronouns.

00:47:20.940 You're not allowed. What? What? You're not allowed to roll that back. Trump is rolling back something

00:47:28.060 the left, the wokes, put into place that was genuinely effective at changing social narratives, 0.76

00:47:32.940 genuinely effective at policing who could do what. Because right-wing people did business with people

00:47:38.460 whether or not they had pronouns in their bios. Yeah. Left-wing people only did business with

00:47:42.220 people who had pronouns in their bios. Do you not see how unfair that is?

00:47:47.340 But he wants them to maintain that asymmetric advantage by tying our arms behind our backs.

00:47:55.580 JD Vance said in 2024, when confronted about false stories that immigrants eat pets,

00:48:00.300 oh, he's one of these people who had a spasm about that. If I have to create stories so the

00:48:04.780 American media actually paid attention to the suffering of the American people,

00:48:09.340 that's what I'm going to do. And he's freaking out about this, right? Like, why, why?

00:48:15.500 The point matters. The point matters is that it's believable. Like, we all know from what's

00:48:21.020 happening with immigrants now that something like that could have happened, right? The reason why the 1.00

00:48:25.580 left freaked out about that specific thing probably maybe didn't happen is because they don't want to

00:48:33.660 accept the wider message, which is that normal Americans are suffering because of immigration

00:48:40.380 and unchecked immigration into specific areas. How can I say this in a way that the media will

00:48:44.620 actually cover it? If I just say normal Americans are suffering because of immigration, the media is

00:48:48.300 not going to cover that, are they? You know when I know they're not going to cover that. If I say

00:48:52.220 they're eating dogs and cats, okay, now because they think they can get something on me, they're

00:48:56.860 going to cover it a bunch, right? And he's saying, uh-oh, you can't use that. You can't use that

00:49:03.980 effective tactic, right? Likewise, the postmodern right shares its left-wing counterparts' contempt

00:49:09.980 for expertise, not expertise, quote-unquote expertise is what I'm saying here, which it views as a tool for

00:49:17.900 elite domination of discourse, which it is when expertise is defined by you as how many degrees

00:49:23.500 you have and what institutions you work for. Which is why so many of the new right figures who

00:49:27.980 had all these degrees didn't lead with these degrees. In respect, the appointment of conspiracy-minded

00:49:34.220 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run the Department of Health and Human Services has a distinctly postmodern

00:49:39.900 flavor. R. F. Kennedy Jr., it's very awesome. I like him as a candidate. Like, I love his bear story.

00:49:45.180 That made me laugh. That was the game changer for so many. I'm like, the guy saw Roadkill and he's like,

00:49:52.140 yeah, I'm going to try to eat that. Let's give that a shot. I'm like, this guy, this guy asked.

00:49:57.820 But yeah, he's like, oh, R. F. Kennedy Jr., except we know, you know, the granola moms, the left,

00:50:03.500 many parts of the right have known for a long time that a lot of these institutions, you know, are not our

00:50:09.260 friends, right? They do not have this shared interest with us. And some of the stuff that

00:50:14.700 they were saying around what's healthy and what's not healthy, he's this guy here, all these conspiracy

00:50:18.940 theories about smoking, giving you cancer. Don't they know that the researchers at Big Tobacco U have

00:50:24.540 already said that's a myth created by the liberal government? You know, it's like, what?

00:50:29.340 You see what I mean? He's just trying to defang every argument that the actual right has.

00:50:37.420 To try to go back to an earlier time. Thoughts before I go further, Simone? Because people,

00:50:40.620 they love hearing from you. You're the smart one.

00:50:43.580 I'm just kind of stunned. I should have seen this for what it was, I guess.

00:50:49.420 Yeah, you listen to a bunch of stuff and you're like, oh, it's totally reasonable criticism.

00:50:53.660 Yeah, like, oh, I guess it's bad that identity politics is making its way to the right and that

00:51:01.180 the right is mean girl policing itself now in a way that the left did. But what you're saying here is

00:51:07.580 the mean girls are the people who've made this concept in the first place. They're the mean girls. 1.00

00:51:13.500 The call is coming from inside the house. And I, I mean, after hearing what you've read here,

00:51:23.420 pretty compelling. And then of course it makes sense because I, every time you talked about the

00:51:27.980 old version of the right, I thought, gosh, aren't they kind of uncomfortable with what's happening

00:51:32.940 right now? You know, our whole new like pluralistic libertarian approach to the right would sit wrong

00:51:40.300 with people who wanted to legislate their values upon others. Well, no, but truly because it's not

00:51:45.020 just libertarian. He wants to go back to either theocratic or just libertarian values. He hates

00:51:50.540 that we're up here having discussions about, well, should it really be one person, one vote?

00:51:55.500 You know, should we, should we, is, is UBI actually bad? You know, what about monarchy? You know,

00:52:03.100 he wants to narrow what we can talk about on the right. When I think what unifies the right today is

00:52:08.540 really our long-term goal, which is human flourishing. Well, and this is why I think

00:52:13.580 you refer to it as the new right and not conservatism because it isn't about going back

00:52:18.220 to tradition. It's not about the cargo cult of the old ways. It is about progress from a very

00:52:25.580 pragmatic standpoint, even if it doesn't look great, even if the optics are off. Well, it has a degree of

00:52:30.780 tradition in it. Like it's not, well, it's not, not in the way that the, that capital C conservatives

00:52:37.820 want. They want their windows and fences. They want Chesterton's fence to just stay there and we

00:52:43.820 want to disassemble it and then like make it integrated with AI drone swarms and have automatic

00:52:50.220 sensors in it and, you know, like modernize it and then rebuild it. Like we want the pieces,

00:52:56.300 modernize them and then put it back. And they're like, no, don't mess with my fence. And we're like,

00:53:01.260 but if you leave the fence now, this new predator is going to get through. And they're like,

00:53:05.900 no, the fence works. It has always worked and it will always work. Yeah. It's like, it's like,

00:53:10.300 hey, fences may be good, but maybe we just need to stack them on top of each other. And then we can

00:53:14.460 attach some electrical wires to it. Yeah. Like, how dare you? There's never been electrical wires on a fence

00:53:20.940 before. Yeah. It's like, look, we're not anti-fence. We just don't think that this fence is going to keep

00:53:25.420 out the jumping leopards. Anyway, Christian nationalists, libertarians, and MAGA populists

00:53:32.140 share no common view of role of government for the common good. Traditional conservatives call

00:53:36.700 for Christianized post-liberal order. It's thoroughly incompatible with modern conservatives,

00:53:40.860 embrace of individualism, freedom, and dynamic entrepreneurship, and both sit crosswired in the

00:53:45.900 post-modern rights, leering nihilism. This is wrong. They actually do have a lot that they

00:53:51.500 get over. Look, we are the, very much like the, the logic, order, science types. And I agree with

00:53:59.100 the Christian, like the traditionalist, old school Christian types. And we're Christians as well, but

00:54:04.220 I'm talking about, you know, you know, you guys know what I'm talking about. The Sunday school

00:54:07.260 types. We agree with them on everything where we can actually win an election. So for example,

00:54:11.500 we may disagree that like gay marriage should be banned or abortion should be legislated to begin

00:54:15.660 at a conception, but we're not going to win elections if we take those views. So it's irrelevant.

00:54:19.980 You know, they may disagree with us on, you know, wanting a super soldier program and, and,

00:54:25.020 you know, government, government gene editing Manhattan program, but you know, that's,

00:54:29.180 that's never going to win an election anyways, but, but on restricting access to abortion. Yeah. 0.99

00:54:33.580 We both agree with that on keeping all this crazy alphabet soup stuff out of schools. Yeah.

00:54:38.700 We agree with that when we agree on all the areas that actually matter on decreasing the size of

00:54:43.340 government. Yeah. We can agree on all of that of trying to find a way to make the economy work

00:54:47.260 in a post day of world. Oh yeah. We agree with that on, you know, globalism being a bad idea.

00:54:51.900 Yeah. We agree on that. You know, like we agree on every area where we can actually win. That's,

00:54:56.460 that's why we work together so well. Yeah, exactly.

00:55:00.940 The game plan for the postmodern right then is to not earn a place in the philosophical firmament,

00:55:06.380 build a durable coalition or prove itself in government. It cannot make a cohesive case,

00:55:13.100 play well with others or run anything. Well, just fundamentally not true. Anyone who knows like

00:55:17.340 we work with groups like the heritage foundation and stuff like that, which is an old school group

00:55:20.540 as well. They've just decided to join the woke, right. You know, the right that's this collection

00:55:25.100 of others instead of sticking with these guys and trying to police what it means to be right wing.

00:55:30.140 Instead, it relies on shock surprise and aggressive disregard for norms to neutralize opponents

00:55:35.740 that embeds itself in institutions to stay in power. No, it uses shock surprise and aggressive

00:55:43.020 disregard for norms because the norms are being set by a group that is antagonistic to us. And the

00:55:49.020 shock and surprise is what they feel when we ignore them. And we can tie up here. But yeah, I think that

00:55:59.980 this guy is a very different type of threat than the traders. The boomer right is a different type of

00:56:03.900 threat than the traders. And I think we just need to call them what they are, boomer right.

00:56:08.300 Like it's boomers, boomer through and through. Boomer right is not friends. Boomer right is what 0.96

00:56:15.420 created woke. They are they are lesser than friends. If they ever win again, woke will beat them again

00:56:20.380 because woke has beaten them before. We use different tactics from them and they want to defang

00:56:24.940 us of all of those tactics because they feed the tactics working and they want to go back to a world

00:56:29.660 where they have control. And we don't want that. That's not in our best interest because we

00:56:34.300 actually want to win. That's actually the goal. As J.D. Vance said, thank God he's hopefully going

00:56:40.300 to be the next president. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hoping for it. And you saw this all seems so innocuous to you

00:56:48.060 when it's laid out in something other than this. And then you see it in this context and you go,

00:56:51.660 you bastards, you bastards. And I just can't believe these people portraying Sargon of Akata 1.00

00:57:02.700 as like this far right figure. The dude is so, and I, and I don't even mean this. He's curmudgeonly

00:57:09.020 and pretty conservative in his views by conservative. I mean, like, I don't think there's a whole lot of

00:57:15.740 stuff that he says. It's really radical. He's even like herder. I don't want to have more kids. 0.99

00:57:21.900 It's too much work. He's like pro-gay atheist guy. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. 0.99

00:57:29.500 It doesn't sit right. This accusation. He's certainly not a white nationalist or a Christian

00:57:33.660 nationalist. It's, it's, you try to portray him to be, you know, I read, I am disappointed that

00:57:40.700 he's never done anything with us or, or interacted with us, but I think we're just too edgy for him,

00:57:45.100 to be honest, which of course we are too small, too small and, or too edgy. Yeah. I don't know.

00:57:50.140 A lot of people that want to touch us for whatever reason, they hate our glasses. I can't stand them.

00:57:57.820 Anyway, I love you to that's the mom. I love you too, gorgeous.

00:58:03.900 What do I need to do?

00:58:04.700 I need to, uh, get all your money and I'm gonna call somebody over.

00:58:14.060 I'm gonna vacuum, give us some workers and restore all the money we have. 0.80

00:58:19.100 Okay, so we're gonna take all of our money and do, what was it?

00:58:22.220 Um, hire some workers to help me build my birthday because with all of the birthday I needed

00:58:31.100 I'm gonna need some knowledge and it does and it is a pretty much, uh, building.

00:58:40.060 So you're gonna need a lot of money to build what?

00:58:42.300 Um, so I stopped to get some workers to hire to build my birthday.

00:58:53.340 Okay, and it's gonna be the biggest birthday ever?

00:58:55.260 Yeah, I did, um...

00:58:57.980 What do you think about doing a squirt gun fight?

00:58:59.500 That's what we were thinking about doing. It's getting you...

00:59:01.180 Yeah, and also, um, mom said we could put, um, food and cotton candy and all the stuff like that.

00:59:13.180 Oh, and we invited the most people as possible.

00:59:17.180 Okay, and you.

00:59:19.180 Say, Daddy. 0.93

Based Camp - August 27, 2025

An Anthropology of The Woke Right (Why You Need US)

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