Based Camp - May 06, 2024


Andrew Tate's Plan to Fix Fertility Rates


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Simone and I talk about how andrew tate has a plan to solve demographic collapse and why white men are a bunch of fucking losers. We also talk about why andrew Tate is one of the most unhinged men on the planet and why he should have a sword.

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00:00:00.000 hello simone this episode is going to be great because it's another andrew tate episode so i
00:00:05.680 need my sword again because as andrew tate has taught me uh women won't respect him unless he 0.99
00:00:11.420 is physically threatening them with a sword you got your sword your wife starts talking you're 0.96
00:00:16.080 like shut up she's got a sword if every man on earth walked around with a sword 1.00
00:00:23.180 most of the issues of the world would basically go away we can fix this it can all be fixed 0.99
00:00:33.420 you just need to carry a sword around your house and i need to do that too that's how i keep my
00:00:39.780 wife in line this the sword andrew tate has outlaid a plan for solving demographic collapse are you
00:00:50.700 serious did this actually happen i am serious and it is as unhinged in a based way like i like
00:00:59.980 thinking outside the box but it is very on brand and i think it might be one of the most crazy things 0.99
00:01:07.400 he said recently which is that's saying a lot would you like to know more dear white men you're fucked 0.99
00:01:15.440 you're being replaced because none of you have children even those of you bitching about the 1.00
00:01:21.960 replacement online like little girls don't find the gumption to fuck i see white men bragging about 1.00
00:01:29.740 having five kids as if it's an achievement lol five lolol per year right oh all you white boys lost 1.00
00:01:42.460 control of your women and now they won't accept multiple wives anymore now they tell you they 0.99
00:01:49.800 don't want any more kids one's enough they don't want to do their god-given job anymore no they want
00:01:58.220 instagram likes instead so your genetic potential is stumped by the whims of some singular female a 1.00
00:02:06.700 female who takes nine whole months to grow a single baby other races have multiple ovens for bread 1.00
00:02:13.820 we're not cucked some bitch is screaming at you about loyalty and you're sitting there saying yes baby 1.00
00:02:21.820 jerking off to porn when she's asleep or maybe cheating with a side bitch condom on 1.00
00:02:29.100 hold on i love this because this is a take that we've had that non-reproductive sex is just masturbation 1.00
00:02:39.980 it is a kink and i love that he has correlated jerking off to porn as being just as disgusting 1.00
00:02:47.220 as sleeping cheating on your wife with a condom on okay take care so far okay oh no i couldn't get 1.00
00:02:55.680 another woman pregnant my wife would kill me exclamation mark concerned emoji total fucking 1.00
00:03:03.140 losers soon your race will be nothing more than a few pages in a history book a lesson on what happens 1.00
00:03:10.080 when you fuck with the female psyche so hard they're obsessed with money and social media as opposed to 1.00
00:03:17.220 being one of many baby factories for a king 30 children minimum for the dons white people go talk to 1.00
00:03:25.540 your quote-unquote best friend wife about what you do this weekend maybe you can take a nice walk
00:03:31.860 around ikea enjoy extinction okay wow that's great so first i want to point something out because i
00:03:44.280 always tell people andrew tate's idea about male and female roles is not the western ideal and it is
00:03:52.080 certainly not the americana ideal it is a muslim ideal and they're like no andrew tate isn't about
00:03:59.580 promoting like the muslim cultural idea of how you should structure relationships i'm sorry how can 0.83
00:04:05.420 you read that and think literally anything else he does not and the muslim ideal can work like to be
00:04:17.240 honest like he's not promoting something that doesn't work or that doesn't lead to higher fertility
00:04:22.280 within some cultural groups where you have the top men in a society having multiple wives and then
00:04:28.600 using that to produce a huge number of kids right and it is a lifestyle that i love that he is
00:04:34.740 undertaking it is not championing no he's like bringing he's bringing polygamy into the modern internet 0.62
00:04:41.700 world this is some pioneering work here what can we say and it like i actually like with andrew tate
00:04:49.900 so we have a video that's come out on hamza who's like another like men's influencer you know what i
00:04:54.720 mean like leading with this male aesthetic um i don't really respect hamza i think he had a perfect
00:05:01.360 life with this woman and he left her so he could go to partying in cities with instagram babes and he 0.51
00:05:06.260 even says that pathetic honestly pathetic and i'm glad he's getting back with this woman and i hope he 0.94
00:05:11.680 can get himself sorted out basically i'm starting the fatherhood chapter of my life we're not pregnant 0.94
00:05:17.220 just yet but we've moved to the scottish highlands the reason why me and my ex split up is i told her
00:05:24.500 to sit down and to write down like her goals and i wrote you know what i want to move to like a big city
00:05:28.940 you will not find this kind of woman who will fit with this lifestyle in a big major city why the women 1.00
00:05:34.740 who are in the big cities are their glorified instagram prostitution i actually want to have a 0.65
00:05:39.920 few like sleepless nights i want to have a few like like sleep deprived nights where i stay up late
00:05:44.380 bro for the last few years i've went to sleep at 7 8 p.m i've you couldn't imagine the amount of like
00:05:49.200 parties and social events and dinners that i've missed i know what goes on in these parties and
00:05:53.660 the issue was that the girls that i was meeting from these places just like i i was as well we're all
00:05:59.780 low quality it's a low quality place to be i wanted to be super social i wanted to have some late
00:06:04.300 nights where we stay up and we're social and there's a party that we go to and everything
00:06:07.700 but she saw it and i'm not gonna lie like i could see how like offended she was where she was quite
00:06:12.940 like pressuring she was like wait you want to do this oh you want to do that you want to stay up
00:06:16.300 late but that's unhealthy those party girls like the party low quality degenerate tiktok type of girls 1.00
00:06:21.600 they are attracted to the party low quality degenerate tiktok type of guys fine like trash can 0.98
00:06:27.200 stay with trash because for hers she wrote that she wanted to do more of the things that we were 0.99
00:06:31.120 currently doing it's wholesome as fuck and you know that she's an awesome girl for that she doesn't 1.00
00:06:34.940 want to be around like you know like party girls and whatever i just realized like we're actually 0.99
00:06:38.780 going into two separate seasons right now fine like trash can stay with trash when you define
00:06:45.440 your moral system around an aesthetic it needs to be witnessed to have value and when he got to
00:06:53.980 the countryside there's no one to witness confirmation from the social community
00:06:58.880 this is the person who aesthetically wants to be a father that fits his ideal of where he should be
00:07:12.600 going in life but is completely unwilling to make any of the sacrifices that are associated with that
00:07:17.800 that he's complaining about not being able to regularly leave the house after seven or eight
00:07:22.820 that is a normal part of being a parent he's not willing to make the sacrifices associated with
00:07:31.280 transitioning to the next stage of his life which will lead him down a path worse than being a jeremy 0.99
00:07:37.340 which is what he calls like i guess losers he's gonna become the crack fox once upon another time
00:07:43.860 there was a fox and he was called jerome he lived in the woods in elderberry wood they spent their
00:07:50.160 days punting down the lazy rivers of cambridgetown one day whilst relaxing he found a copy of cheekbone
00:07:58.920 magazine and he read an article about london life and then decided he was gonna go to london three weeks
00:08:06.280 later he was off his tiny face in a gay club the fun fun times for him 1.00
00:08:12.520 but the party lifestyle took its toll eventually he ended up on the streets begging for cheese in
00:08:21.700 dalston that fox my friend was none other than me the crack this is gonna sound weird you need to be 0.98
00:08:29.500 hit in the face i will repeat that again as a young man you need to be hit in the face consistently 0.97
00:08:35.620 um andrew tate he has chosen a different optimization function than me yes but it is not 0.98
00:08:43.640 necessarily an incorrect optimization function it seems like the right optimization function for him
00:08:50.280 he doesn't seem like a monogamous settle down move to the countryside kind of guy
00:08:55.420 andrew tate is kind of a goofy guy was a different optimization function than us in a different cultural
00:09:02.500 background than us but i respect his level of baseness and his level to live against the grain
00:09:10.040 of society and his follow-through in the things that he says here is another great quote that he 0.61
00:09:17.680 tweeted recently sex is for making children any man who has sex with a woman because it quote unquote 0.98
00:09:23.480 feels good is gay oh my pp feels so good this is great in fact if you're 40 with less than five 0.99
00:09:31.300 children you're probably gay all that feel good pp sex and hardly any genetic legacy question mark 0.98
00:09:38.900 i mean to be honest when we talk about changing culture right it doesn't make sense like the reason 0.98
00:09:47.520 why culturally we used to shame people for being gay was because the cultures that did that ended up
00:09:52.920 having a higher number of surviving offspring because they pressured the men who were born with same 0.99
00:09:58.900 sex attraction to have heterosexual relationships what andrew tate is doing in this tweet is adapting
00:10:05.300 that shaming and that cultural concept for a much bigger threat in society today which is condoms they're
00:10:12.760 not ending up having kids for some other reason which is just so intelligent and and cool even if it's not
00:10:20.480 the strategy that we would use yeah and there's an analogy i came up with recently that i really like
00:10:26.300 about male female dimorphism which is that human males and human females evolved differently like we
00:10:34.340 are biologically and psychologically different from each other you can think of this as like in a society
00:10:39.880 where everyone's assigned a swiss army knife at birth and they are slightly different brands of swiss army
00:10:44.960 knife with different tools within them you know different size knives everything like that
00:10:49.500 between cultures and then people take that to be like oh there's this morally correct way to deal
00:10:56.420 with these differences that is not true you know in a culture that grew up you know near a coastal
00:11:02.060 region it might actually be the thinner knife that's used for butchering animals and in a crowd that grew
00:11:07.740 up when an arctic region where they were hunting like mammoths oh no the hunting group is always the one
00:11:12.760 that had the thicker knife there are many optimization functions that can even work within a single
00:11:17.820 environment and the ways that we use these tools are going to change over time when we are a space
00:11:22.140 during race it may turn out that what was originally meant to be like a corkscrew in the swiss army knife
00:11:26.520 is now perfect for um handling some sort of like oxygen tank or something like that on the ship and in our
00:11:35.120 society right now women being more like social like in a historic context that was totally different than 0.97
00:11:41.520 them navigating the bureaucracies that they navigate today at a higher rate than men navigate and so if we
00:11:47.140 don't take into account that contexts have changed and that so one the way that we relate to gender
00:11:52.800 changes over time but two different cultural groups historically related to gender differently
00:11:58.720 and he's from a cultural group that really did relate to women in this way much more in a historical
00:12:05.040 context and he's leaned even further into that with his recent muslim conversion but then so the question
00:12:10.320 comes why don't we choose this strategy like why do we think this strategy is bad one thing he's wrong
00:12:16.740 about like simone would you be up like am i not allowed to marry another woman
00:12:20.960 i wouldn't be into that you could you are welcome to be with anyone that you want i hate people too much 0.73
00:12:32.200 to have a household full of additional people i'm sorry it's not even like it's not that i'm not willing
00:12:40.780 to share you it's that i cannot deal so you see i am cucked by my wife right she says i would be less
00:12:48.600 happy if you married another woman and i take that into account right but and here's the key thing so
00:12:54.460 why am i dealing with that limitation on my fertility like why would i do that why would a culture do that 0.96
00:12:59.660 an argument that i would make and i imagine you're going to make this as well is that if we want to
00:13:04.840 one be among the cultures that is technologically dominant and intellectually dominant that is to
00:13:11.660 say building the future like literally the group that builds the infrastructure that takes us to the
00:13:16.040 stars and ultimately runs it and decides who gets to go where you need to have maximum firing power on
00:13:22.660 all ends so both genders need to be high caliber and you're not going to create a culture with high 1.00
00:13:29.720 caliber women when the women are simultaneously subjugated in a way where they're seen as less 1.00
00:13:36.680 and they're part of this stable and they're part of this harem or whatever it might be so i think we
00:13:41.320 can't inspire smart ambitious daughters who we want to have in our culture to get married and have kids 1.00
00:13:48.540 if doing so involves being with someone like andrew tate and i think that's the key answer here but i
00:13:56.700 want to elaborate on it a bit more because it also has genetic effects and stuff like that like
00:13:59.880 andrew tate could not secure a woman like simone um andrew tate is always talking about how women are
00:14:06.300 like not as smart as men and blah blah blah and that they can't have intellectual or philosophical
00:14:11.500 conversations and what this tells me because i haven't experienced that in the women i'm engaging
00:14:16.720 with or in the woman that i married so why is it that i haven't experienced that but he has it's
00:14:21.740 because what he was bringing to the table when he was out there trying to attract women to sleep with
00:14:25.600 was specifically filtering for these women that were in of an incredibly low intellectual caliber 1.00
00:14:30.620 because that's the type of woman that goes for a guy like that that that splits like that and 1.00
00:14:35.680 there's actually been studies on this yeah it's it's there's a really fascinating study i've never
00:14:39.840 been able to find it but i remember going over it when i was in psychology school like getting my
00:14:43.460 degree in psychology and neuroscience that looked at a culture that was polygynous where you had one
00:14:50.720 man man and many woman and that women they're like the top men in that society actually got lower 1.00
00:14:58.220 quality wives than in nearby monogamous societies where these extreme top tier women were actually 1.00
00:15:04.180 sorting for mid-tier men in terms of like wealth and stuff like that oh i think i've seen this but
00:15:09.900 it's looking at um it's looking at from africa so it was looking at the evaluations that women are
00:15:16.940 making and specifically it they have to decide do i want like if i go for a high value man i know that
00:15:25.060 i'm going to have to share him so i have to dilute his current wealth or value or power by the number
00:15:32.580 of anticipated wives even if i'm wife number one therefore a high value man is actually lower value
00:15:39.100 because i'm actually going to get just one-fifth of him one-tenth of him one-third of him and so going
00:15:44.800 for a mid-tier man who you anticipate to have only one wife could you know it so you see this in the
00:15:52.460 data is the point like that yeah lower quality wives but it also reminded me of something that 1.00
00:15:57.760 homs has said in one of his videos where he was talking about why he loves foreign women over
00:16:01.100 western women and he was like oh and they're short it's so hot how short they are oh my god 0.99
00:16:05.320 how no no man in this space who's even slightly adjacent to the black pill space could possibly say 0.61
00:16:12.660 something like that no no man that could ever actively try to reproduce with a shorter woman
00:16:18.120 because he understands how important height is for men unless he plans on doing ivf and eliminating all
00:16:25.100 they deal with this cloud they deal with this brain cloud right they don't understand that half of your
00:16:31.400 son's genes are coming from their mother when you select for women who are innately subordinate 1.00
00:16:40.420 and who are dumb you are creating sons who are half subordinate and dumb when you have sex with 1.00
00:16:49.940 short women it's the same thing this is something that was completely growing up if you grow up in 1.00
00:16:57.120 rural america and you can see this in america i talk about this all the time on the podcast but you
00:17:01.640 see this in country songs anyone who listens to them the women that you're told to look for are not 0.82
00:17:07.040 the preening type they are the type who hunt and fish and get dirty with the boys because he wants
00:17:12.420 sons who can do all that who can intellectually engage with it but if you only know about americana
00:17:16.980 culture from country music you don't see what it's like growing up i grew up in texas in a family
00:17:21.880 that's been there for seven generations so that's about as old as you get as served in a texas family
00:17:26.120 and it was constantly reinforced in me that when you are looking for qualities in a wife
00:17:31.620 that you are looking for the qualities you want in your sons and this was actually a really interesting
00:17:37.340 sort of cultural hack that americana culture adapted to subvert the misogyny that also is in
00:17:45.340 that culture so could it be though i i almost feel like men of the andrew tate type that we're discussing
00:17:52.640 here just they've dehumanized women to the point where they don't really even see women as
00:17:58.740 like capable of passing on these traits to men if they're just like anything that's male
00:18:04.100 obviously is to come from me because the female is so foreign so anti-male that there's just no 0.97
00:18:11.000 point in even factoring her characteristics into what a son could be because she's not she could
00:18:16.440 never be a son because she's a woman and women are not human you know what i mean there's the even 1.00
00:18:21.200 the way that he worded like like pathetic nine months gestating children he just sees women as 0.98
00:18:26.740 gestators i'm gonna be more generous to him and say that i suspect that you are misunderstanding or 0.95
00:18:34.580 not misunderstanding um but but not valuing enough the fact that this is just his cultural background
00:18:42.580 he is from eastern european cultural background this was a common mindset in certain parts of like
00:18:47.680 southeastern european cultural mindsets and because of that he has adapted this cultural mindset to the
00:18:55.520 current like technological age that we live in and i think he's done a good job of adapting it
00:19:00.140 but um he just decides to bite the bullet on the downsides of this approach because it is the approach
00:19:07.720 that dispositionally works for him like he couldn't change himself the andrew tate could not change
00:19:14.100 himself in a way that would allow him to attract high quality women and because of that from my cultural
00:19:18.220 perspective and because of that there's no point in trying to be what you're optimized to be i don't
00:19:25.020 think that andrew tate is making a bad bet given who andrew tate is genetically no i agree that he's
00:19:32.180 doing what is optimally best for him and when i look at myself i have to admit there is a certain
00:19:38.280 amount of cope in my position right there is a certain amount of cope and that you just cannot produce
00:19:44.300 children at the rate that his women are going to be able to produce children right and i can dream 1.00
00:19:53.280 of a day where my sons can use you know exo wombs or use by that i mean like external wombs or wombs
00:20:01.600 that have been genetically done in different ways that can produce children at a higher rate i am so
00:20:07.460 excited for that right and i will encourage them to do that and through that they might be able to keep up
00:20:12.800 with individuals using the cultural strategy that people like andrew tate are using but it's just a
00:20:18.600 very different strategy and we're going to do a whole video on this topic but it reminds me of one
00:20:25.320 of the things that people are always surprised of about us where they're like aren't you afraid of who
00:20:31.940 do you think should have less kids aren't you afraid of these different cultural systems that are having
00:20:35.660 just tons and tons of kids and it's literally no literally like to me they are irrelevant if the
00:20:42.360 cultural strategy they're choosing is one that is going to cause them to become intergenerationally
00:20:46.600 less strong less independent and less intelligent because in the future their numbers don't matter
00:20:54.840 if they are attacking my descendants who have ai kill drones yeah and they're coming at them with 0.89
00:21:02.980 ak's and sticks they just they can't even the differentiation between the human groups in
00:21:09.940 terms of their level of defensibility is exaggerating over time as technology becomes more and more
00:21:18.940 advanced and advanced in an individualized context i think that with us we need to be aware of the
00:21:27.140 downsides to our strategy which there are lower reproductive rate maximum we were talking about it 1.00
00:21:32.720 realistically we're probably going to get 10 kids what's the classic k versus our strategy
00:21:37.140 yeah it's the classic k versus our strategy and so then the question is with his strategy what he
00:21:43.100 should be totally optimizing around like for him genetic selection technology matters much more than it
00:21:49.380 matters for us like ivf genetic selection technology because he's dealing with a lower quality gene pool to
00:21:56.760 start so he's got to do more in terms of editing it down and the other thing that he needs to really
00:22:03.920 look for is how does he ensure that he is choosing women who are the smartest among the pool of women he can 0.91
00:22:12.800 get which means that if you're going for his cultural strategy you actually want to devalue
00:22:19.260 attractiveness in female partners to some extent so you are overvaluing the types of traits that you're 0.88
00:22:26.300 going to find less of within the pool that he's able to attract and his sons are able to attract
00:22:31.060 and if i'm looking at this from his perspective as well i do think that there are some arbitrage games
00:22:36.180 that one could play as a polygamist to get smart high value women who would still be open to being in a 1.00
00:22:43.780 polygamous marriage so if he plays for example immigration arbitrage and cultural arbitrage pursuing
00:22:52.700 women who are otherwise very smart and high achieving and giving them basically access to a level 1.00
00:22:57.700 of wealth and comfort that they just would never get at home maybe he can really get ambitious smart
00:23:04.400 people to join his harem as it were and produce lots of tater tots because he knows better and he's
00:23:10.860 certainly not against putting women to work i think if he were a little bit smarter about how he managed
00:23:16.160 his women as it were but it had them doing maybe he does had them doing more interesting work than just 1.00
00:23:22.860 being like a cam girl he could create really interesting career opportunities for women and more 0.99
00:23:28.620 operate like a weird harem corporate family where he has like his female employees who have rewarding jobs 0.81
00:23:35.780 that are ambitious and interesting and intellectually engaging who are also having his kids who are
00:23:40.840 all enjoying living in this like really nice corporate campus harem palace i could see that
00:23:46.220 work you've got to keep in mind he has a hierarchy among the women who work for him 1.00
00:23:49.700 and the top women who work for him are not cam girling they are managing women who are cam girling
00:23:55.320 okay then so you know like he's competent women to some extent but it's keep in mind it's not just the
00:24:01.860 women that he's able to secure another thing you have to keep in mind is for his strategy to work and
00:24:05.440 used to work intergenerational that means his sons need to be able to generate because to do this like
00:24:10.840 huge wife pool strategy you need to be able to generate tons of wealth to implement this but i 1.00
00:24:17.360 don't think his sons are going to implement are going to i don't think he's going to be passing
00:24:21.440 down this talent with the fidelity that i think that he assumes he's passing it down yeah we see with
00:24:26.820 many polygamist families like when you look at fundamentalist mormon polygamist families for
00:24:33.700 example it's super common for the men who don't get chosen to have lots of wives to just get kicked
00:24:39.740 out the the majority of the boys or at least a significant proportion of the boys just get
00:24:44.560 get punted we saw this also with someone we met who grew up in a cult in latin america who was one of
00:24:51.500 what 10 kids and all of his brothers got kicked out of the cult he was doing great by the way he seemed
00:24:56.580 very smart very capable but yeah like that there is that problem of what to do in a polygamist highly 0.99
00:25:04.620 competitive culture and family when you have a lot of sons and you want to set them up for success
00:25:10.260 what do you do yeah and you've also got to think about his daughters right are they going to when they
00:25:16.020 look at what their mothers endured within this lifestyle and then they realize that they're going
00:25:21.540 to who if they're going to culturally continue his value system they endured that but for a much
00:25:27.220 poorer man because there's not many men at andrew tate's income level right they're going to want
00:25:32.500 that and if they don't want that then you get the korea problem where they just opt out of breeding
00:25:37.000 in revolution against him and i'd say another thing like a lot of people think that what i'm talking
00:25:41.160 about here is just the iq of my wife and that's not it like it is one i do not want a wife who is 1.00
00:25:49.020 a naturally submissive person i want a wife who submits to me but i would find it very disgusting 0.98
00:25:58.700 to know that my wife like just culturally speaking was submissive more generally yeah like aside from 0.91
00:26:06.460 me being completely besotted by you obsessed with you creepily stalkish about you i am fiercely
00:26:14.120 independent to the point where i don't even like receiving gifts or anything from other people
00:26:18.340 because i don't like a feeling of obligation toward anyone and i hate the idea of being
00:26:23.500 subservient or associated with anyone and i think that serves us in our culture our particular culture
00:26:29.480 really well because we want to breed this level of independence and initiative so i see what you're
00:26:36.160 saying and i would want that in our kids as well and i'm glad to see it in them already the level of
00:26:40.940 ambition you have the level of these are also genetically linked traits if you have a woman 0.91
00:26:47.560 who approaches life and that has a genetic component to it that is not linked to her sex chromosome which
00:26:54.860 it probably isn't entirely right you are getting that in your sons and i actually suspect that this is
00:27:02.160 why polygynous cultures typically the men in these cultures have such submissive roles to their
00:27:10.680 cosmology so i'll explain what i mean by this typically submission to god is seen as much
00:27:18.380 more within these cultures as like groveling like head in the dirt crawling on your knees
00:27:25.440 submission that you don't see as much in cultures where women aren't expected to be this level of 0.76
00:27:32.620 submission culturally and i suspect what that is is a level of inherited submission within the males of 0.92
00:27:38.180 this culture that needs to be masturbated in some way and the culturally approved way of doing that 0.64
00:27:44.980 is to a supernatural entity whereas you don't see even within you look at protestant traditions and 0.98
00:27:53.200 many of them will say i am worthless compared to god and stuff like that but the the way that
00:28:00.340 correlates to culture isn't like groveling on the floor like a submissive wife but um seeing that as a 1.00
00:28:07.560 motivation to work to improve yourself and as a sign of why you should be grateful for god's interest
00:28:14.100 in you at all um which is i think really interesting and a sign of how you actually this mindset ends up
00:28:22.060 breeding submissiveness into men as well i thought more about this after recording and came to a new
00:28:27.480 perspective i think i might have been misunderstanding high female to male submission cultures or high female to
00:28:35.180 male power distance cultures in that focusing on the male to female dynamic is the wrong part of the
00:28:41.720 relationship to focus on it's throughout the entire family system that you have this increased power
00:28:49.080 distance you have the increased power distance between man and god was like additional groveling on the
00:28:54.240 ground and stuff like that but also between a woman and her children where children in these cultures are often
00:29:00.940 expected to be much more obedient to their parents wherein cultures like simone and mine growing up
00:29:05.580 there was no expectation like children were about equals to the parents and people in these high power
00:29:10.980 distance cultures are often horrified by that they're like why would a parent allow their children to
00:29:16.440 say no or allow their children to say actually i have an alternative perspective on this
00:29:21.160 and the answer from the perspective of one of these cultures now whether or not this is
00:29:24.580 correct is uh just a matter of optimization functions there isn't necessarily a correct outcome like
00:29:31.280 reality is going to judge which of these cultures is right but the the the logic from the perspective of
00:29:37.420 the culture as i was told growing up and what simone and i would tell each other is the goal of child
00:29:41.520 rearing is not to break a child's spirit or to teach them obedience but to foster a child spirit and to
00:29:49.300 teach them to stand up to authority and if they just mindlessly obey their parents then they are
00:29:54.880 not learning that skill and they will be weak children from the perspective of our culture
00:29:59.480 where weakness is defined by an individual's ability to stand up for their own beliefs against
00:30:04.940 arbitrary authority and if you don't we've done the video on like the noodling girl and the
00:30:09.180 tomboys tomboy apocalypse look at that i think every fish i've caught this year has been mean
00:30:15.220 you look at this girl and this is not the type of girl who's going to go for an andrew tate guy 0.59
00:30:24.020 yeah the guy who she's going for is going to be like muscly and stuff like that but this is a woman 1.00
00:30:28.520 who has her own opinions and i think that is really interesting to me and you even see this in like
00:30:34.480 amish groups and stuff like that we've done a video where we have a longer amish segment where you
00:30:38.740 see a lot of them talking and you can see that women do have opinions within the community and
00:30:43.800 their opinions are valued almost as much as the man's opinions this perspective of women's opinions 1.00
00:30:50.080 just don't matter is actually not like a historically american perspective or part of our cultural
00:30:56.940 background i've said it would be very hard for me to adopt to it in effort to have a ton of whites 0.96
00:31:03.520 yeah although it does depend on the specific american culture right when you look at like
00:31:09.080 in early america there were some anti-woman cultures group which just it didn't become 0.99
00:31:17.120 that important in american society yeah because i inherently think that those cultures are less 0.93
00:31:21.560 competitive so just so people know what happened to the culture that was more misogynistic they became
00:31:26.760 the cavaliers which is where good old boy southern hierarchical like deep south deep south hierarchical
00:31:33.900 culture so we need to be clear there are two core cultural groups within the south one is the cultural
00:31:38.400 group that i come from which is the rural group which is where country music comes from which is where
00:31:43.700 the girl who goes fishing and hunting and is covered in mud and likes to mud wrestle and play around with 0.95
00:31:50.220 the boys and drink beers that's one cultural group in the south okay and that cultural group likes
00:31:56.040 strong women then there's the other cultural group in the south which was the one that was like the 1.00
00:32:01.140 slave owner plantation owners everything like that they were very wealthy they were mostly from the 0.57
00:32:06.500 sun owners of aristocrats and they make up uh a version of like aristocratic southern culture which
00:32:13.040 you still see in places like charleston and stuff like that this is where the southern dandy comes from
00:32:18.500 the guy who rides on his horse and everything is about tradition and everything is about oh my lineage i can
00:32:25.360 trace it takes many things back but this culture mostly went extinct most of the misogynistic
00:32:30.960 interpretation in american culture today actually comes from immigrant groups that were more
00:32:37.380 misogynistic in their interpretation most catholic immigrant groups were a bit more like the italians
00:32:43.200 and the irish were a bit more misogynistic in the way that they treated women than the pre-existing
00:32:48.540 american cultural groups but they were never as far as like the muslim or eastern european cultural groups
00:32:54.460 although i want to be clear i don't think that polygamy has to go contrary to women's rights
00:33:03.300 and i think that there are many or not many but there there are quite a few instances of polygamy
00:33:09.660 culturally and anecdotally like on a one-off basis where the women are really more like living almost 0.98
00:33:16.060 like a quasi sister or lesbian collective where there's also just happens to be one guy we've even seen
00:33:23.200 some polyamorous subcultures geographically locked that kind of end up looking like this and so i
00:33:29.380 don't think it's necessarily necessarily harmful to women or anti-feminist to engage in polygamy i think 0.73
00:33:37.080 first for many people it's preferred and honestly in the end you've got a bunch of women ganging up on a 1.00
00:33:42.560 man he's outnumbered keep that in mind when you're looking at these configurations a man can only hold up
00:33:47.960 his will so far in a household where he's just outnumbered and i think andrew tate by pairing up
00:33:54.540 with his brother and other male compatriots in a household like this kind of gives him a little bit 0.80
00:33:59.860 of a bulwark but that is not the normal configuration so we have to keep that in mind i think that
00:34:04.480 ultimately what makes polygamy not sustainable and more weak isn't that women are harmed by it and 0.99
00:34:11.020 isn't that high value men are harmed by it but that lower value men less competitive men are harmed by it
00:34:16.620 and that creates problems and instability in society no that does create instability in society but i
00:34:22.500 don't think that matters in the current system i think if you're talking historically why were
00:34:26.460 polygynous systems culturally selected against fine but now society is becoming more atomized and it's
00:34:31.640 really only the winners that matter anymore what if we have ai girlfriends and some of other
00:34:35.920 distractions and video games and obviously the way that muslim cultures historically dealt with this
00:34:40.420 is if a guy was gay they would just transition him this is true in a lot of muslim and polygynous 0.99
00:34:45.840 cultures is it that okay a guy's gay get him transition if you can't beat him join him so i think 0.99
00:34:52.100 that we both need to realize the downsides of our culture so with his culture the thing i would really
00:34:57.680 focus on is you've got the number of kids down now what you need to focus on quality is two things
00:35:05.560 the quality of those kids and their technophilia like how technically savvy are they and how technically
00:35:12.840 productive are they and how willing are they to engage in high-tech systems one of the big dangers of his
00:35:21.020 cultural system is that it genuinely believes that physical strength and physical like hand-to-hand
00:35:29.000 combat styles has any utility in terms of modern conflicts outside of just making him feel cool about
00:35:38.560 himself and maybe motivating people to exercise and we'll talk about this much more in the follow-up
00:35:45.720 video to this but this is why a group that traditionally doesn't value something like hand-to-hand combat
00:35:51.280 like the israelis in the yom kippur war were able to beat cultures that did where those other cultures
00:35:58.080 were fighting them with a hundred to one manpower ten to one armors and artillery it's not that it's bad to
00:36:04.780 focus on fighting it's just understand that it's just a game it's a status toy like a maserati don't
00:36:11.360 accidentally bring your maserati into a war because it costs the same as the tank just because you spent
00:36:17.380 the same amount of time effort and industry putting it together as the other culture did a tank it
00:36:22.300 doesn't mean it's realistically going to stand up to a tank
00:36:24.720 and here i'd like to quickly address something that we often hear which is that when i exercise
00:36:42.180 i feel better like it mentally makes me healthier and i perform better on specific tasks and this is
00:36:50.520 true this is something you see in the research and so we are not saying don't exercise at all i mean
00:36:54.880 exercise someone exercises about five to six hours every day but she does it while on an elliptical and 0.84
00:37:00.220 also typing i think that it's very important to recognize the amount of physical exercise that is
00:37:08.620 optimal to improve mental health while not going further than that in an amount that becomes
00:37:17.080 really just hedonistic status signaling and it's very easy to slide into that and to begin to justify
00:37:25.600 that when you begin to engage in it for health purposes because exercise has addictive properties
00:37:31.660 i'd also note here that exercise does have some effect on the hormones that your body produces
00:37:37.540 which in men can be useful for achieving certain mental states that are conducive to productivity and
00:37:44.580 good mental health however you know this is taken along with the exact same caveat that you need to
00:37:50.920 look at the mental benefits you are getting versus the time trade-off and the sort of sad thing about
00:37:58.380 exercise is the by the time you can really start to see in a male that they are regularly exercising
00:38:05.800 they are almost certainly exercising far more than they need to for just the mental benefits at that
00:38:12.800 point it is for status signaling and so there are general rules around personal austerity would
00:38:19.300 apply which is to say you can do it if you want to you know i drink and i know it's not useful to me
00:38:23.720 but i also still recognize it as a sin and i wouldn't recognize overly exercising or overly indulging
00:38:30.440 in pointless arts like martial arts or something like that beyond the the utility they might have
00:38:37.640 in terms of mental health for some individuals and i should note here when i say pointless i don't mean
00:38:42.060 they have no utility at all in the modern world i just mean that there is always something more
00:38:47.540 productive you could spend your time on that would have more utility than them within the modern world
00:38:53.360 and finally here what i note is these things like i suspect human males have sort of different genetic
00:38:58.740 patterns and i think that some males may require exercise and fighting like regular physical combat for
00:39:06.020 health much more than other men do in the same way that i don't feel fully mentally healthy if i don't
00:39:12.560 do manual labor a few times a week like exhaustive manual labor which would have been more in line
00:39:18.540 with my cultural history as as a way a man proves himself to his family instead of fighting for us
00:39:24.880 our kids however many generations from now if our culture keeps evolving in the way we want it to they
00:39:29.540 will be likely heavily gene edited they will be engaged really heavily with uh ai these are individuals
00:39:37.960 where of the incredibly high fertility cultural groups in the world today they could have a hundred
00:39:44.400 members and they wouldn't be able to culturally impose on one of my distant descendants if we play
00:39:50.280 our cards right they could have a 10 000 members and they wouldn't be relevant to one a ai swarm kill bot
00:39:57.660 you know genetically augmented human with a iq like five standard deviations of iq humans today like
00:40:03.740 it's just uh it would be comical to even think that they could pose a threat or imposition to these
00:40:10.280 sorts of individuals which is why we just don't care about them that much i love when luddites are like
00:40:13.760 oh that's just wild speculation around what the future will be like no it's not we have ai right now and
00:40:20.620 we know it's getting better and for the gene editing all i can say is our position and profile
00:40:26.020 gives us access to knowledge about parts of the state of this technology that the general public
00:40:32.320 even some scientists in the field wouldn't have knowledge of because it's a field that intrinsically
00:40:37.720 has to stay very secretive due to legal regulations and stuff like that before the technology gets
00:40:43.240 perfected what i can say is i am not being wildly speculative i am you know like people are like hg wells
00:40:51.140 predicted submarine that is no simple submarines existed in his time we're doing the same thing
00:40:56.680 here we are not making that outlandish of predictions you are just not living close to
00:41:02.420 the technology that we live close with but still proposing an alternative approach here i think yeah
00:41:09.060 i appreciate the creativity and i appreciate that he's living by his value system and i for many this
00:41:14.520 is the best way not for us yeah now i need to be clear here this is not some kumbaya bullshit 0.64
00:41:20.640 perspective i do look down on andrew tate from the perspective of my value system and i would expect my 0.94
00:41:27.620 kids to look down on him and i would be disappointed in one of my daughters for marrying a man like him 0.56
00:41:32.020 i mean you can just look at his perspective on something like why he tries so hard for the things he
00:41:38.120 try so hard for when people say to me tate you're obsessed with money i say no i'm obsessed with not
00:41:43.920 being in that position i'm never going to let me live my me live my only one life on this planet and 0.97
00:41:50.800 waste my years of consciousness in that position i don't want to be the guy who's 37 driving a fucking 0.99
00:41:57.100 shitty citroen who gets pulled out on and a girl who's too hot for me driving a car i can never afford 1.00
00:42:02.280 who can call fucking dudes psycho kickboxers with fucking lambos and acids to turn up and bust me 0.99
00:42:09.760 up i'm never going to be that guy i'm never going to accept that submissive position and that's why i 0.99
00:42:14.860 say when i talk about money and achievement and training and all these things how important they
00:42:18.480 are because if you don't find those things important well then you're just accepting your
00:42:21.960 place lower down tate is primarily motivated by and stresses about a fear of being powerless and
00:42:30.760 having other people lord power over him and that is not what motivates simone or i we are motivated
00:42:39.280 by trying to create a culture and set of cultural interactions that can bring our civilization into
00:42:46.440 the future essentially bring together a group of rebels that can rebuild a civilization and world that
00:42:53.920 appears to be spiraling into the abyss when i go to bed at night i don't think if i fail then
00:43:00.440 people will lord power over me i think if i fail then civilization as we know it collapses when i look
00:43:06.440 at my ancestors that's what they attempted to do as well very different optimization functions and when
00:43:11.240 i think about what i stress about it's not about losing power it's about giving people bad advice i wonder
00:43:17.480 if tate ever sits around stressing it was one of the videos i did uh did it did it lead someone to make
00:43:23.640 poor decisions i i don't think he does he's primarily motivated by how everything reflects on him
00:43:28.840 and to me that makes him a lesser person than me but i need to stress that is to me because i'm
00:43:35.400 approaching this with a different cultural perspective the cultural perspective i was raised
00:43:38.840 within but that doesn't mean i don't hold that perspective i do i fully believe it to be the
00:43:42.520 correct perspective i love you to death simone i love you too gorgeous
00:43:50.040 what would you like to do next so there was another episode that could go as a
00:43:56.680 complement to this you've alluded to it episode yeah and it's on who do we not want having kids
00:44:02.680 oh all right let's do it
00:44:12.200 you