00:00:00.000Hello, Malcolm. I'm excited to be speaking with you again because we have a new episode in our
00:00:04.100series, Women Are Terrible. Because they're at it again, Malcolm. Women are terrible. And what1.00
00:00:11.340happened most recently was an influencer who goes by MJ Gray. She branded herself as very strongly
00:00:17.800anti-marriage and anti-kids. She framed marriage as enslavement, but something that women should0.70
00:00:24.060avoid because it primarily benefits men and the patriarchy. And she built this following of almost
00:00:29.580500,000 people on TikTok. I'll link to this in the show notes. And it was all about anti-marriage
00:00:35.980content. She often argued that marriage signifies ownership of women, and she strongly advised1.00
00:00:43.140women to avoid it. I really wish women would stop getting married. I wrote off getting married1.00
00:00:48.620since I was a little girl. I put together the pieces of what marriage was, and I was like,
00:00:53.540oh yeah, no. I could never trust a man, which is why I would never marry a man.
00:00:58.420And then, lo and behold, after nine months of dating a man with no public profile, she announces an engagement in a visibly uncomfortable video, which is now, she's trying to scrub it from the internet, titled, Yes, I'm Engaged. Yes, this is awkward.
00:01:14.120Well, repeatedly, she insists she's in a good situation, and I have a somewhat salvaged part of this, at least, that I was able to find on the internet for you, Malcolm, if you want to include it, but I'll also link to it in the show notes.
00:01:25.640yes i am engaged yes i am the same person who made several videos saying that i never had never
00:01:33.340had any plans to get married i did not want to get married and i did not agree with the institution
00:01:37.300of marriage she claims her stance has always included caveats that sometimes marriage is good
00:01:43.280sometimes marriage can make sense if you plan to have children or share property or live together
00:01:48.340but otherwise it remains a harmful institution and of course very abundantly in in her content you
00:01:54.580know she's well having kids is the most horrifying thing it destroys your body so of course if you
00:01:59.000have kids you know sharing property why would you ever do that oh my god so your takeaway because1.00
00:02:05.440she watched this happen she comes to me and she goes malcolm is feminism just an anti-woman grift1.00
00:02:11.760or is it need blocking that's what i kind of blocking but through that it's a tactic that1.00
00:02:16.900ugly women use to destroy the marriage prospects of beautiful and qualified women and that when1.00
00:02:23.160women signal feminist ideals they are doing it with the predominant intentionality of hurting1.00
00:02:31.120other women no i mean so this this is where it gets more complicated because this is a different0.97
00:02:36.440subset and it's more this is why i wanted to talk about it because this is not the ugly feminist1.00
00:02:42.040meat blocking and being like well we need to you know get cats and vote this is not that class this1.00
00:02:48.880is this is a slutty class of women i mean that in the nicest way this is a sex positive class of0.98
00:02:53.860women that that that actively wants to date that talks about dating strategy that talks about0.99
00:03:00.120getting men to pay for you that talks about loving sex and yet things happen suddenly all that dot
00:03:07.360dot dot yeah we're gonna get into it because it turns out that mj is not the only influencer in
00:03:12.360the stay single movement who turned around and got married there are other recent and actually
00:03:16.700quite prominent even more prominent than mj in terms of the online drama i want to explore this
00:03:22.120through a few lenses before we start so when you came to me and you told me this i began to really
00:03:26.500think through it and i was like actually almost everything that feminism has quote unquote won
00:03:32.600has been a strict negative for the majority of women yes whether that is hey women you get to0.80
00:03:39.500be sluggier now and women were always like but i never wanted to yeah like this is never the plan0.82
00:03:44.880since when did i want to men wanted multiple partners i wanted a wealthy partner right who's
00:03:50.640dedicated only to me i've watched the women porn right i've i personally like really reading uh
00:03:57.820romanticy mawa's stories right so i know what women like because i find it very enjoyable too
00:04:03.280and it's always one guy maybe two guys thirsting after them for a love triangle it's certainly not0.69
00:04:09.420what men are into and what these women have quote yeah it's not a series of one night stands it's
00:04:14.340not really out there sex acts it's it's quite the dark brooding duke of the north who secretly has
00:04:24.560a soft spot for them oh you know you know it yeah but so okay so oh well they won the right to work0.96
00:04:32.680what how is that good for women that now women have to have jobs and still raise kids and still0.78
00:04:41.220cook the food because they didn't really walk back that other stuff significantly no no now1.00
00:04:46.460they're just like oh so work for yourself but also sleep around with a bunch of men but sort of you
00:04:51.660know in return for no security or long-term bonding and and also you know if you ever do
00:04:58.340get married just wait get make it a capstone in your life get everything else in place and
00:05:02.160they're just giving this really intense anti-marriage advice at a time when marriage
00:05:07.480really can't afford any more negative propaganda between 25 2005 and and 2010 around half of adults
00:05:16.460like 50 to 55 percent were married and by the mid 2020s it's around 46 to 51 percent so 47 percent
00:05:25.180of households were headed by married couples in 2024 these are near historic lows it people are
00:05:31.140just married by 30 numbers that asthma gold was sharing but yeah the number of people getting
00:05:35.620married by 30 is is plummeting so yeah people are putting it off we really don't need any more
00:05:40.080anti-marriage propaganda meanwhile you have yeah hold on i'm just gonna go over it really quickly
00:05:44.660for fans so americans married by age 30 if you go to 1975 it was 91 of women so over nine and
00:05:51.20010 women and for men it was 81 today 2025 it is 25 of women and 16 of men this is not great0.86
00:06:02.080yeah that is terrible at this point women are like marriage a slave and i also want to go into
00:06:08.720a video that ended up doing the rounds of a woman who is very very mid got a baseball star to date
00:06:17.420her and he wanted him to come back to her place on the first date and she ends up putting him on
00:06:21.620blast and he didn't even do anything wrong and it shows that the tyranny of the mids at this point
00:06:27.680the tyranny of the mids yeah did they expect multi-millionaire pro athletes to take them
00:06:35.280on second dates when clearly they're just chum yeah this guy was a uh apparently a lazy 10 so
00:06:42.480that's we point out you know and now if she thinks that this is the type of guy that she can get no
00:06:46.320yeah now yeah forward she's going to assume that she will get a 10 to marry her because a 10 wanted
00:06:51.640to sleep with her on one of his tired nights yeah okay continue simone but yeah so i i want to i1.00
00:06:58.620want to explore these women for a little bit because this is a different profile of woman1.00
00:07:02.380this is not like i said the you know a bookish feminist cat lady who is just like i'm never
00:07:08.540going to come into contact with men this is actually as much as they're sort of anti-men0.95
00:07:12.800at least anti-centering men they actually engage a lot with men and they're quite attractive but
00:07:19.380At least I think, I think they are, they, they, they look like mainstream filter people.
00:07:24.420If that makes sense, you know, like Instagram models, but let's start with MJ gray, the
00:07:29.240woman in question, the, the turning point of this episode, she has 419,000 followers0.51
00:18:41.920anyway maybe if there's some way we can head this off it would involve maybe our like
00:18:49.600just telling people like look this is the pattern this happens to everyone just ignore
00:18:56.380the instincts telling you this well it's like we all get warned that puberty is coming
00:19:02.240and nobody's worried that your 30s are coming right yeah everyone's like you need to be
00:19:06.840preparing you need to figure out how to talk to girls you need to get your riz on
00:19:10.240people didn't know i got riz okay i i'm joking here i do not have riz apparently
00:19:19.160uh as as our audience has has made clear to me right so i i talking to women i'm just no good
00:19:25.160but uh functionally i am though obviously it's just it doesn't look like what people
00:19:32.720think it looks like yeah i don't i don't know if anyone really knows what how do we get women i
00:19:40.060mean i think it's just your your biology changes here's the way i would fix this but i have to ask
00:19:45.280though is it also not just some form of mate blocking behavior there is a big game of musical0.99
00:19:49.640chairs taking place when women are in their 20s and what many women do is a defensive tactic1.00
00:19:54.880maybe also to inflate their sense of value is to be like you know that one thing that you talk0.93
00:20:00.900about and when you give relationship advice is women stop doing this whole thing where you act0.95
00:20:05.540unimpressed by everything like oh this restaurant isn't really that impressive you just want to0.60
00:20:10.160neg men um but women do that it's very pervasive this could be a version of it of oh i don't ever0.68
00:20:17.180want to get married i don't because they're trying to seem more valuable than they are0.99
00:20:20.800because what they really want is for men to be like oh then i i must have her because she can't1.00
00:20:28.060she's unachievable you know that kind of thing is maybe this is that maybe it's a competitive1.00
00:20:32.380strategy it doesn't work guys don't go for that it works well but think about it so men send dick0.99
00:20:38.840pics to women because they're like what would i like oh i know oh so they try to be the cold duke0.99
00:20:44.580of the north yeah i think maybe that might be part of it is that this is women trying to be the cold
00:20:49.360duke of the north and what men are like i'm not interested in this will you send me a picture of1.00
00:20:54.900your tits please let let me inspire you by this picture of my dongle you know that is that is okay0.99
00:21:01.160so here we're talking around this culturally speaking right which is we can go out there0.99
00:21:08.980and uh when our kids are growing up when we're teaching them about puberty puberty should be
00:21:14.060taught as a package with you're going to want to get married at later in life too so when we're
00:21:19.980telling them you're going to change how you feel we make it very salient and this will happen again
00:21:27.340later. So any preparations you make for this change should also include preparations for the
00:21:34.500secondary change. Yeah. Yeah, possibly. Maybe even forcing them to watch Blippi when they're teens
00:21:42.540to be like, hey, how do you like this? How do you like it? You want to watch more? And they'd be
00:21:46.560like, hey, this is how you're going to feel about your life as a playboy world traveling 20 something
00:21:52.260when you turn 30, maybe something like that. If you actually are willing to be intellectually
00:21:56.340honest with yourself and emotionally honest with yourself i don't know i'm not sure but i think
00:22:02.120more importantly we also need to bring this down let's not leave this at an i'm not sure let's
00:22:06.980sink through it because uh i think we see this present in different ways okay uh in shoe on
00:22:13.220head's case for example i do not think it was mate blocking i think she lived in a society
00:22:17.500where this was normal and uh or you could even think me promoting these values why didn't i1.00
00:22:24.080feminist values is because i wanted to sleep with women right and that for me oh yeah abortion's the
00:22:30.680best right oh yeah you know sleeping around well it makes you feel good it makes me feel good how0.99
00:22:35.720could it be morally negative right oh yeah you know uh it achieved what i wanted in the moment
00:22:43.260right so uh and what everyone in my society told me i was good and what seemed good when i saw0.92
00:22:48.960through it because you know clearly whatever the boomers is doing isn't working and the religious
00:22:52.680people just shout read the bible and i'm like but a lot of those stories there's a lot of sex in
00:22:58.680there yeah and slavery you know i'm like you you guys aren't pro-slavery right now obviously as an
00:23:04.460adult i've gone back to the bible and i find good moral guidance in it but as a kid when somebody
00:23:09.140just shouts that you read the bible and you're like aware that the bible's like pro-genocide
00:23:14.320and slavery in sections you're like well selling your daughter you know well maybe not ever like
00:23:21.820how do i know that this marriage stuff in the bible i i shouldn't take the same way as i take
00:23:27.980the selling your daughter into slavery stuff in the bible right like presumably that's not
00:23:32.840applicable anymore right and they you know frankly i didn't hear good answers back then now i can give
00:23:38.920you a great answer today uh you watch our track series you watch any of our religious episodes
00:23:43.040you'll find good answers but the conservatives of the last generation things sucked at at basically
00:23:49.500conveying a salient message yeah so combine combine that conservative message with how bad
00:23:55.320boomer like our parents and gen x marriages were which oh my god i don't want that plus this
00:24:01.780mismatch between male and female desired love language just like men just want the tit pics
00:24:06.680and women just want the duke of the north and we don't know how to give this to each other because
00:24:11.380we we are pretty different in the things that turn us on like on average as men and women
00:24:16.920And then with different life stages, just being that you being rewarded by different things at different periods of your life and it being very hard to model that even within yourself and anticipate that.
00:24:27.500I think there's an additional cultural layer on top of this, which is that we are in the middle of a, of a realization, a collective realization that the free sex only fans sleep around with people era.
00:24:41.380and we've talked about this remember we talked about how swipe based dating and hookup culture
00:24:46.440radicalized women but also made them pretty miserable and it's even showing up in very
00:24:51.500popular media there's very little event media left but one of the few shows that's left is euphoria
00:24:57.320and i've been watching season three and a really major recurring theme of it is the bible and god
00:25:04.700and religion what the other recurring theme is women in sex work so the main character is working
00:25:12.100for this kingpin of strip clubs and and kind of drugs another main character is an only fans model
00:25:18.840another main character is an agent exploiting only fans models so it's just it's kind of all about0.92
00:25:25.040sex and hookup culture another one is a sugar baby for a wealthy man who likes to wrap her up0.89
00:25:32.000in cellophane and it's all just kind of like cellophane it's just like a fetish thing you0.89
00:25:37.960know i can't remember what the name for it is but like yeah i've seen it yeah i think someone
00:25:42.320actually i think actually famously very recently an only fans model has just been convicted of
00:25:48.800negligent homicide for accidentally killing one of her followers by wrapping him up in cellophane
00:25:54.280so guys be careful uh he asked her to wrap him up he didn't wrap her up yeah she wrapped him up and
00:26:01.840now she's in trouble because he died uh because don't do that it's not safe that makes me sad for
00:26:08.040her actually i know she was just trying to do her job you know what i mean uh yeah the guy
00:26:13.420presumably was at least partially aware of the risk for you one hopes but i don't know okay
00:26:21.740anyway the big theme is that and actually it begins with one of the main character the main
00:26:28.480character is is running drugs but stops she sort of finds herself in the middle of the texan
00:26:33.500countryside and is is uh she sleeps in a barn and wakes up to this this homeschooling
00:26:40.220he has more swords that he wishes to show she shows up at this homeschooling texan family like
00:26:47.580sleeps in their barn but like they just bring her milk in the morning they're like hey why don't you
00:26:50.920just join us for breakfast and she sits around and they have family prayers and she they drop
00:26:55.400her off closer to a road and so she's able to get on her way and it just sits with her for the
00:27:00.480longest time of man like i think they kind of get it we want to thank you lord jesus christ for
00:27:07.160giving us our daily bread and for giving us our trespasses
00:27:10.260this is our address will you be sure to send your article when it's in the paper
00:27:19.480yeah as long as the commies at college don't censor it
00:27:22.140you're doing the lord's work thank you i trade spots with you in a heartbeat
00:27:29.300these offline teens this this big family of six kids like homeschooling and living on our farm
00:27:46.040like they kind of have it made i think i'm living my life wrong and so she starts reading the bible
00:27:51.900And she starts thinking about God and being like, I think I'm religious sitting in churches.
00:27:56.300And the last scene I just watched last night from the latest episode, there's a burning bush.
00:28:21.060this is really bad we need to get god again and the people who never left god are like the happiest
00:28:26.980and the only ones who are doing okay right now so i think there's this additional layer the
00:28:30.880communication i actually disagree with that really i'm gonna push back actually what i've seen is the
00:28:35.800people who seem to be doing the best are the secular people who came to religion through logic
00:28:40.460the people who are doing the second best are the ones who always had religion but typically the way
00:28:45.260that they practice their religion is a little less optimal for actually dealing with the crises of our
00:28:50.620time if you're homeschooling on a texan ranch in the middle of nowhere you're one of those i came
00:28:55.200to this very thoughtfully right but there are some people who are still holds out from like the old
00:29:01.440evangelical communities and stuff like that yeah and they seem to be just broadly unprepared to
00:29:07.120interact with the modern world in a meaning yeah well as soon as they interact with the modern1.00
00:29:10.860world they crash and burn because they're not resilient to it as we talk about you sort of
00:29:16.340have to go through you know uh to an extent or have some some members of your community that
00:29:21.740have fully gone through it understand why it was tempting and understand why you failed to
00:29:27.640convince them in the past to build better arguments for the next generation if you were convinced by
00:29:33.420the you know just read the bible argument your kids are going to be just as susceptible because
00:29:40.040you don't know why that argument may not appeal to somebody right yeah and and i think that this
00:29:45.800show shows how many people come to this as they see oh like this isn't working this old way of
00:29:51.560doing things is working yeah and to be fair all these characters were not raised in like religious
00:29:57.020contexts they were raised in like our modern mainstream urban i'd be interested to see is
00:30:01.300what is the online chatter about this direction the show is going can you ask an ai for a sentiment
00:30:05.600no so that no what what is what is being said in the media is oh my god suddenly maga loves euphoria
00:30:12.200up because for these reasons you know and also i think the sydney sweeney is the one who's big on
00:30:20.360only fans in this in the series the who's famous for the jeans campaign who's you know sort of like
00:30:27.020we all like sydney sweeney from the jeans interview yeah it was a good it was a commercial
00:30:32.460it was like an ad campaign i just wanted to give you the opportunity to deal with
00:30:44.620a passive aggressive accusation disguised as a question
00:30:53.740if your career brought you here of what use was it
00:30:58.460i know but there's a famous interview she did afterwards where oh with the yeah
00:31:02.220the yes yes yeah um so now yeah like the discourse is oh and then a lot of people are trying to argue
00:31:08.840that the creator of euphoria isn't actually like turning to god and pro mega or anything
00:31:15.400it's just that he likes to troll people but there's literally portions of like little
00:31:21.020montages of the sydney sweeney only fans model character being interviewed for example she like
00:31:27.340has her rise on the internet you know getting internet famous and people are like oh are you0.89
00:31:31.980a democrat just i'm not retarded so yeah no it's it's very it yes the right the right is enjoying0.80
00:31:40.540season three i said this in character in the show yeah yes it's a great clip it's fantastic0.87
00:31:46.960they said this there's the montage and it's also her being i just think you know women want to be
00:31:50.740able to be in home and you know be wives i wanted to come back and tell and tell you them more
00:31:56.000i learned that when you add vinegar and bacon soda together they can create a new thing
00:32:03.940bacon soda yeah bacon sorry kind of like fizzes if you're really close we should do that we'll
00:32:11.400do that tonight but if you did it a lot then it would be like a bottle and put all the vinegar
00:32:17.760you have in that bottle and it can create a big fizz like this big that big huh yeah um yeah this
00:32:25.680is our unofficial endorsement of science max as a youtube channel i want to get back to the
00:32:30.080original question here yeah wait are these two different characters in the show the one who's
00:32:33.860a sydney sweeney character and the one who's finding god yeah so multiple characters are
00:32:39.500moving in this direction right no that's what i'm trying to say yes is a major major theme of this
00:32:44.180extremely popular public discourse show is finding god and finding the hollowness in in sex work in
00:32:52.620general yeah okay and calling it euphoria wow that's uh yeah that's great no and well and this
00:32:59.760is the third season of it i actually couldn't stomach the first two i like the third one for
00:33:03.460whatever reason maybe because now it's for conservatives anyway your point hold on i want
00:33:07.920to get to the question of well i don't think for sure it was genuine make blocking behavior
00:33:12.060yeah blocking motivate the rise of this ideology right yeah because well but here's where i get
00:33:19.240confused is it made sense to your early your earliest point was you were making the assumption0.99
00:33:23.780that these were ugly women whereas these are hot women who date and have a lot of sex so it's they
00:33:31.180don't it's not like they have trouble finding men but that doesn't mean that mean popular girls don't0.85
00:33:37.460mate block i mean a a major theme of popular hot mean girls is mate blocking so i don't know what0.58
00:33:44.820what what is your take so my take is that it partially likely led to it so1.00
00:33:50.120there was certainly if you look at the early feminists they were very often vile habergash1.00
00:33:57.200dudes or whatever you want to call them right uh fairly haberdashery is where you buy buttons1.00
00:34:01.180and ribbons i don't even know whatever you want to call them swamp things uh trying to i think
00:34:08.580that there's it more than mate blocking i think a lot of it was women who failed out of marriage0.99
00:34:14.580marketplaces or failed to get the type of guy they thought they deserved and then wanted to0.97
00:34:20.660increase the status of unattached women i think that was more of what motivated it right1.00
00:34:27.540they failed to achieve what they felt they deserved to achieve given their perceived0.57
00:34:33.220self-status which increased as a problem as women got access to easier and easier sex0.84
00:34:38.360and then they uh looked at the world this terrible and unfair world and they said actually i'm not0.82
00:34:48.220low status it is not and as the proportion of women who needed to believe this delusion
00:34:54.260increased and as men realized they could utilize this to gain sexual access to women more easily
00:35:02.620it spread i think while it would be convenient for our narrative if it was genuine mate blocking
00:35:11.520i think it was more about women not admitting their genuine low status in society and trying
00:35:18.040to normalize it because i think that's a stronger everyday drive for women and then they have to
00:35:24.280uh you know what's the word here or so i mean if i were to reframe it's kind of like a sour
00:35:33.100grapes thing but then as soon as they get the opportunity they're like oh i want it and i'm
00:35:38.100going to take it they're going to pretend that they're happy with their lot i mean could it1.00
00:35:42.240could it be also that these okay these are these are presumably top tier women right they are they
00:35:48.820are sleeping with the best men but they're also realizing that the best men are not willing to
00:35:53.780commit to long-term relationships because a very common dynamic in modern dating markets is there's
00:35:59.680no reason for a man who's an eight nine or ten to settle down because they have access to all the0.79
00:36:04.700range of women like why would they well unless they like literally sit down and think their way0.98
00:36:09.500out of it like i did right yeah that's very unusual right so unless you're like a good christian man0.97
00:36:15.860or you're smart and like really really disciplined or i mean i think what else will help for you is0.89
00:36:21.300you were so slutty in your youth that like you got it out of your system so unless you've done0.92
00:36:25.860one of those things you're you're not i always wanted a wife uh for my brother and i yeah it0.99
00:36:31.340was your identity that we wanted wives it's also like in your dna like you come from a long line
00:36:36.100of romantic men yeah for me it was always about the wife and kids uh especially a good wife
00:36:42.820and so uh i mean it's interesting for me to reflect on because it doesn't just require
00:36:48.600like intellect and a sober mind because recently we were talking to one of our friends and this
00:36:56.680friend i consider to be of the highest intellectual caliber highest ability to sit down and think
00:37:03.460through things and yet he is unmarried doesn't have kids and doesn't seem to have a strong desire
00:37:10.220to get married even though i have tried to logic it through with him and why can't he see it why0.99
00:37:17.960can't he sit down and be like obviously this is stupid it's not that he hates his ancestors0.99
00:37:29.220because he's jewish and he doesn't seem to be like actively anti-semitic or anything like that0.99
00:37:33.200i think it's just he is in an environment but i was able to break out of that environment that's
00:37:40.540the thing i was in an environment that was as progressive what i'm saying is you're very unusual
00:37:45.080And maybe what's happening is these already top tier women are like, oh my God, this is just never going to happen. I need to embrace that I have to be like them. And this is actually a common theme in discourse. People are like, oh, women think that they have to be like men, that they have to sleep around like men and enjoy when night stands like men.
00:38:02.340and that is a very call her daddy theme where they really act like they enjoy sex the same way0.50
00:38:08.460that men enjoy sex at least that's kind of how i feel about it when i consume that content i'm like
00:38:14.160oh this is a very this this looks like a woman trying so hard to pretend that she has male0.99
00:38:19.240sexuality and i'm not totally buying it and so as soon as soon as they this rat floundering in the1.00
00:38:27.040ocean trying to survive on the floating board finds a lifeboat it jumps onto it because it's
00:38:32.340like oh my god I didn't know this could happen but it's happening I said I think maybe that's
00:38:37.280that's another big factor here do you think so yeah well I mean I think that these women who
00:38:44.340no the women who are out there saying marriage is terrible are really just trying to make
00:38:48.920themselves feel good I really think that's well yeah but but you can say it you can word it as
00:38:53.940feel good i'm wording it as feel better in an environment where they feel like they really just
00:38:58.740a marriage that's committed won't work for them and keep in mind case in point in in my in favor
00:39:05.660of my theory is wizard liz right she was like oh i'm gonna be all independent then she had a chance1.00
00:39:10.160to get married was so stoked about it husband cheats on her so she kind of feeds into actually
00:39:15.780the narrative ultimately of no you as a woman if you're trying to marry a high value man even if
00:39:21.620you're a high value woman can't have that well i mean if you're a woman and you marry a guy who's
00:39:26.360much higher value than you of course he's gonna cheat on you right like she should have how did0.81
00:39:30.140we as society forget that i thought that that was i know i know maybe on the unmentioned thing
00:39:36.920yeah to actually freak out about a high value guy cheating on you is kind of
00:39:41.680look i get where morality blah blah blah blah blah blah but also be being realistic every king
00:39:49.660throughout history almost every wealthy person throughout history has done this right you and
00:39:55.960and worse these people often come from progressive environments where this is way more normalized
00:40:01.300they abandoned all of the social structure that was meant to punish the guy for doing this now
00:40:05.800he could just marry you but younger because you decided to freak out because he was sleeping with
00:40:10.420another woman oh again i'm not pro cheating i'm just being realistic here when people are like
00:40:16.720can you believe that Arnold Schwarzenegger,