Based Camp - Antifa： Logistics & Particulars + An Interview With a Former Member

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. I decided to do something interesting

00:00:04.020 for this episode. I was like, because I've noticed on a few of our videos, I've gone

00:00:08.620 into a topic and I realized that our coverage of the topic is the most thorough coverage

00:00:12.940 of a topic that I can find. And I decided to do the same thing with Antifa because it

00:00:17.820 was just one of those things where I was like, I don't think anyone else has covered this.

00:00:22.360 You do this with your books too. Keep in mind, whenever you write a book, it's typically

00:00:25.740 because there's a subject that you don't feel is covered very well by anyone.

00:00:30.000 Yeah. And so, I mean, I've heard of Antifa as a concept. This, out of all of my deep

00:00:36.480 dives, probably surprised me the most.

00:00:39.760 Wow. Are we going to join Antifa now? Is this the surprise?

00:00:44.240 No, no, no. But the left is right. Remember there was that time when people on the left

00:00:50.660 kept saying like Antifa is a conspiracy theory, Antifa doesn't exist. I don't know if you remember

00:00:56.140 when this was like the mainstream talking point on the left where they were like,

00:01:00.000 Antifa is made up. The right is attacking. They're making up this fictional evil organization

00:01:07.200 to attack. And the organization isn't a representation of anything real. And if you

00:01:11.780 talked about Antifa, you would be labeled as a conspiracy theorist. This was during Trump's

00:01:16.200 first run where the concept of Antifa was seen as a conspiracy. And some people still hold to this

00:01:21.280 line, but very few still do. Most people generally agree that Antifa is a real thing that exists.

00:01:26.660 The problem is, is it's not. Unfortunately, like where my research sort of hit a wall to begin with

00:01:35.540 is Antifa doesn't meaningfully exist. And yet it does meaningfully exist. So, and we have multiple members

00:01:44.480 or people who follow this podcast or hang out in our discord who are former Antifa members,

00:01:49.340 like reformed Antifa members. This video actually ends with about a 30 minute interview of one of

00:01:55.520 these followers of ours who used to be in Antifa about what happens at Antifa meetings,

00:02:01.240 the way Antifa organizes, and just the general logistics of Antifa operations.

00:02:07.040 Would you like to know more? And so what I mean when I say Antifa doesn't really exist is

00:02:12.680 twofold. One, there is no centralized Antifa organization. There is no group that has a,

00:02:22.660 and two, there is no centralized Antifa ideology. Okay. So you don't get a membership card. There

00:02:27.640 is no president. There's no nonprofit organization. There is no barrier to entry. Literally anyone can

00:02:35.180 just say, I'm Antifa or I'm sort of anarchic. I am anonymous, et cetera. Yeah. Okay. Anyone,

00:02:43.640 anyone, no, anonymous was quite different. There were some organized power hierarchies and there

00:02:50.120 were where people can go. And there were like, it might be that anyone can technically claim to be

00:02:55.200 anonymous, but there actually are individuals who are disproportionately in the actions of what we

00:03:01.860 call anonymous. Within Antifa, there appears to be like, if I'm even just looking for like one famous,

00:03:08.600 like important individual within Antifa, there's going to be much fewer of them. The flatness of

00:03:15.220 the organizations is much, much bigger than it is with anonymous. But in addition to that, the discordant

00:03:22.140 views and goals of the people who are within Antifa are hugely various as we're going to go over in just a

00:03:29.900 second, all that Antifa really is. I, in fact, I would say Antifa is less of a unified idea than

00:03:36.700 something like the alt-right, which is what Antifa really sort of emerged to mirror, but it went further

00:03:45.440 than the alt-right ever did. And it represents what I would call a psychological technology or a

00:03:53.120 specifically it's a technology that gives individuals a psychological license to do violence

00:04:00.320 against moderates of the other side. So what it means when somebody says they're Antifa, like what

00:04:08.240 fundamentally are they telling you? They're saying they believe that they have a psychological license

00:04:14.720 and the moral justification to act upon a center right MAGA dad, the way they would treat a literal

00:04:24.240 Nazi at a, at a concentration camp. Oh, I get it. Okay. Okay. So yeah. Antifa is to scary,

00:04:32.720 violent political extremists as to borderline personality disorder is to cunt.

00:04:39.440 I don't understand. Well, when someone says that they have borderline personality disorder,

00:04:45.520 they're really saying they're just a cunt, right? It's true. I mean, it's true, but that's not really

00:04:52.360 the point I'm making here. What I'm making here is what Antifa is and what is conveyed by the concept

00:04:58.240 is I am allowed to treat half of America the way I would treat a concentration camp guard.

00:05:07.940 That is, that is where punch a Nazi comes from. That's where all this comes from.

00:05:11.700 And that's what I'm going to make in this episode is Antifa will say one thing. They will say,

00:05:17.780 we fight against fascists, right? But then if you look at their actions, what they consider fascist is

00:05:26.740 generic center right or even center left capitalist. Now, that's interesting. I was

00:05:32.180 watching an interview between Lex Friedman and the guy who founded Young Turks, co-founded Young Turks,

00:05:39.540 who was actually framing things very differently. He was saying that he was a capitalist. He was very

00:05:43.860 in favor of capitalism or capitalism, but against corporatism, which we kind of 100% agree with.

00:05:49.860 And I kind of wonder if that's true, if people who consider themselves far leftists actually favor

00:05:55.700 capitalism and what they're against is corporatism. So what you're really saying is that they're against

00:06:01.460 corporatists?

00:06:03.060 No.

00:06:03.700 Okay. Just no. Just they like capitalism. So they're Marxist.

00:06:07.780 You'll see really quickly how extremists they are. Okay.

00:06:10.500 Okay. Okay.

00:06:11.140 Okay. So first I'm going to give you how they frame themselves, right? So you can understand how

00:06:15.700 this psychological framing trick works.

00:06:17.700 Okay. So according to a member of a New York Antifa group, quote, and this is who they target,

00:06:25.380 fascists, alt-right, white nationalists, et cetera. And the main focus is on, quote,

00:06:31.940 groups and individuals which endorse or work directly or in alliance with white supremacists

00:06:36.740 and white separatists. We try to be very clear and precise on how we use these terms, end quote.

00:06:43.300 Okay.

00:06:44.580 And so if you're looking at like what ideologies do Antifa members usually hold is generally

00:06:50.020 anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, anti-fascist, and anti-state views. And they're generally

00:06:56.820 left-wing ideologies. And they'll also do things like support, you know, LGBT rights and stuff like

00:07:02.420 that in general, lefty urban monoculture causes. Like they're known for going to trans book readings

00:07:07.940 to children with guns to try to intimidate whoever might show up at those. So let's get to an example

00:07:14.340 of this. So you've heard like who they say that they're fighting, right? Now let's look at who they

00:07:20.420 actually fight. During Berkeley protests on August 27th, 2017, an estimated 100 Antifa and anarchist

00:07:28.260 protesters joined a crowd of 2,000 to 4,000 other protesters to confront a demonstration that had

00:07:35.140 showed up for a say no to Marxism rally. So they, and this is the way these-

00:07:40.980 So they're not Marxists. They hate capitalism and they hate Marxism.

00:07:44.580 No. What they went to this event to stop-

00:07:48.100 Oh, they were protesting the people who didn't want Marxism.

00:07:51.780 Was say no to Marxism.

00:07:53.220 Okay, sorry.

00:07:53.540 So they say, and this is the psychological trip of Antifa. They say we're against fascists. They say

00:07:59.460 we're against white nationalists. They say we're against Nazis. But what they actually end up

00:08:05.220 attacking is people who are protesting against America becoming a Marxist country.

00:08:11.620 Yeah. Because this whole thing, the definition you read earlier, where it was like, we're very,

00:08:15.780 very, very specifically against white nationalists, anti-Semites. Like I'm hearing this and I'm

00:08:21.060 thinking, okay, they're actually describing a group of maybe 800 people in the U.S. You know,

00:08:26.580 this is not bad. Okay. It's fine.

00:08:28.420 No, no, no, no.

00:08:28.740 They consider fascists as 50% or more of America. Probably 70% of Americans they consider fascists.

00:08:33.700 And what do they think these fascists deserve? Like how does the psychological trick work?

00:08:38.420 So this, it took place at the say no to Marxism rally. So this is just somebody arguing against

00:08:44.260 an ideology that has literally killed more humans than any ideology in history.

00:08:49.780 Like if, you know, if you look at like the great leap forward, just five years of communism killed

00:08:55.620 arguably more people, depending on the stats you're looking at, than the entire American slave trade.

00:08:59.940 Like that is absolutely insane, the scale of death that can be attributed to Marxism.

00:09:06.180 But people say, oh, that's not real Marxism. Well, what do you think?

00:09:08.500 They weren't trying? Like they were trying. It's just, it always devolves into this.

00:09:11.780 This is why people are protesting it, right? I don't care how well you mean with anything.

00:09:15.860 If you hurt children, if you put children in harm's way with your policies, then you're bad.

00:09:20.980 Yeah. Yeah. That's why Marxists are bad because they put children in harm's way,

00:09:23.940 but they're, they're not protesting equality. They're protesting what always happens when

00:09:27.220 people try to achieve equality using this mechanism. But what did Antifa think people deserve?

00:09:33.300 Okay. So this is one individual named Clayton attacked, and this was at the anti-Marx,

00:09:38.820 the, the, just protesting Marxism. Clayton attacked people with a metal U-lock

00:09:44.900 during the April 15th rally around the Civic Center Park. Court papers later revealed that

00:09:49.300 Clayton struck at least seven people in the head, according to authorities. One person received a

00:09:54.420 head latheration that required five staples to fix. Another was uninjured, but had a piece of

00:09:58.980 helmet broken off. He broke a helmet. And a third was struck across the neck and back. So this guy was

00:10:04.820 going in for the kill. Thank goodness the person was wearing a helmet. And I'll, and I'll have

00:10:09.700 pictures of this, like this is bloody and horrifying. Why did he feel that he had the right to attack? And

00:10:17.060 anti-Marxism is something that like 70% of Americans probably broadly agree with. Like this is mainstream,

00:10:26.820 even moderate leftism. Why did he feel he had the right to do that? Because he had built an ideology

00:10:33.380 that psychologically equated anyone who is not a Marxist as a Nazi. And that was the only way he

00:10:41.940 could think of them. It strips the humanization of the mainstream other. And I would say, I actually

00:10:48.100 don't have a problem with political violence against extremists. If they are the type of individual

00:10:55.380 that is advocating for direct and actual, not like made up lefty violence where they're like words or

00:11:00.740 violence, but like actual violence. Like I am okay with like actual political violence against somebody

00:11:06.980 flying a Nazi flag or somebody flying an Antifa flag. I mean, they're in the same category of person. You know,

00:11:12.580 your actual Nazi Nazi is willing to attack like center right individuals if they felt that they

00:11:19.540 had the ability to get away with it. It's the same with Antifa. They're really equivalent groups.

00:11:24.900 And the thing that's so funny about Antifa is Antifa does this thing that they call black shirting,

00:11:30.740 where they go around in, in, in these black outfits where they say it so people can't tell their

00:11:35.700 identity. There's lots of ways you could cover your identity. You know who the black shirts were?

00:11:40.420 And I love that Antifa don't seem to be aware of this, or maybe they, they are and they just hide

00:11:45.300 it. The black shirts were Mussolini's fascist troopers. The Nazis were copying with the brown

00:11:52.020 shirts. They literally used gangs of people in black shirts who covered their faces to attack crowds.

00:11:58.740 That is the slightly awkward fascists came to power.

00:12:02.260 When Mussolini finally marched on Rome in 1922, he did so with an army of black shirts at his side.

00:12:08.180 Black shirts were a paramilitary force who, as their name implies, wore black shirts.

00:12:13.460 That's pretty on the nose. Mussolini used this army to evoke terror both domestically and abroad.

00:12:19.140 From the earliest days of the fascist party in Italy, Mussolini's black shirts worked to get rid of

00:12:24.180 any opposition. The black shirts motto was, mini frego, or I don't care. And points for honesty,

00:12:31.220 because they really didn't care.

00:12:33.140 Fear is a part of our tactics. It's our job to go out there and say,

00:12:44.980 no, we're not going to allow you to spread these ideas.

00:12:50.820 Organizations all across the country and all across the world.

00:12:53.860 Black block or block is just what we wear. It's entirely black, simple, non-identifying clothing.

00:13:09.540 Once the fascists went from being an urban phenomenon to a wider Italian force,

00:13:15.220 they then went after peasant leaders in the countryside,

00:13:18.260 showing aggression towards any potential challengers in villages, communities,

00:13:22.340 and towns throughout the peninsula.

00:13:24.180 When me and Brad first met, I didn't think we'd get along, but it turns out we kind of agree on

00:13:27.700 everything. Your racial identity is the most important thing. Everything should be looked

00:13:30.980 at through the lens of race. Jinx, you owe me a Coke. Damn.

00:13:33.300 We both think minorities are a united group who think the same and act the same.

00:13:36.660 And both the same. You don't want to lose your black card.

00:13:38.820 Sorry, I don't know. I just think we should roll back discrimination

00:13:41.060 law so we can hire based on race again. Jinx, now you owe me a Coke.

00:13:44.020 Hey, tell them what you told me yesterday.

00:13:45.540 White actors should only do voices for white cartoon characters.

00:13:48.340 I've been saying that for years.

00:13:49.140 And if you think that this group isn't fascist, one of the things that I always point out is,

00:13:53.380 you know, we've got to have some clips here from the woke versus racist thing,

00:13:58.100 where the woke, like far left, has just become fascist.

00:14:02.660 People might call this horseshoe theory, but they genuinely rank human beings on a scale of,

00:14:08.020 you know, deserving human dignity based on their skin tone. They'll say we don't do this,

00:14:13.540 but you even see it in mainstream policy, like in our state, and this is recommended by the CDC,

00:14:17.780 that vaccines that they thought were saving people's lives, at least they assume this,

00:14:21.940 were distributed not based just on need, but also based on how

00:14:26.100 discriminated an ethnic group was historically. And of course they don't mean how really discriminated.

00:14:30.900 I mean, obviously Jews would be pretty discriminated if that's what they were looking at.

00:14:34.420 Black people should only shop at black businesses.

00:14:36.740 I guess the only thing we really disagree about is I think white people are the root of all evil.

00:14:40.340 But what did I tell you though, if we can narrow that down to a certain group of tiny

00:14:43.300 hated white people, I think we can come to an understanding.

00:14:46.260 Technically, I don't consider Jewish people white because-

00:14:48.260 Neither do I.

00:14:53.460 But we're still cool with interracial cucking, right?

00:14:55.460 Yeah, as long as you pay for it. Sex work should be celebrated.

00:14:58.180 What they mean is the lefty value hierarchy of which races matter and which races don't.

00:15:03.460 Like which ones deserve human dignity, which don't.

00:15:05.700 And now that the lefts have gone like anti-Jew. And they're like, no, we're not Jew.

00:15:10.660 We're anti-Zionist. And I'm like, well, depending on the study you're looking at,

00:15:13.620 it's like 89 to like 95% of Jews are Zionist. And it's like, of course they would believe that

00:15:19.140 they need a state to be safe. Like look at their history. And if I was like, I'm not anti-Christian.

00:15:25.540 I'm just anti those people who say Jesus was the son of God. It's like, well,

00:15:28.980 I mean, that's a pretty big overlapping Venn diagram there, buddy. But so they now, you know,

00:15:33.380 they, they, they, they, they now believe that humans should be sorted based on their ethnic group

00:15:37.940 with some accorded more human dignity than others. And at the very top of this is the Jews. And, and,

00:15:45.300 and I also love that, like, if you actually look like just mainstream Democrats are going so trashy

00:15:50.260 now there, I, I, I, I love that. They're like, we are all about like election integrity when the

00:15:56.900 rights like, yeah, but like, you know, that something probably happened, right? Like there's

00:16:00.900 just too many fires at this point, you know, belief. And they're like, no, our party isn't

00:16:07.060 anti-democratic. And I'm like, you literally canceled your own primaries. Like your party's

00:16:13.300 leaders are just appointed by a committee of elites. Now they don't even talk to you and you didn't

00:16:19.620 protest. Antifa didn't go to protest that Kamala was just dictatorially assorted.

00:16:24.900 I haven't heard anything about Antifa recently, actually. Has there been any Antifa activity

00:16:30.900 recently? We'll get into that in just a second, but I love that they're just like, voting is like

00:16:36.100 now antithetical. Like this is a woman who, by the way, for people who claim to care about Black Lives

00:16:41.060 Matter in one incident, the left thousands of black people. And she admitted this later because she did

00:16:46.820 let them out, not telling them about a lab leak in the drug lab in jail who should have been freed

00:16:51.620 so she could get the police commission support to win an election cycle. And then later the Supreme

00:16:56.740 Court said that her prison system was a human rights violation and her department argued back,

00:17:01.220 I'm sorry, we can't release anyone because we're using them right now for fire duty, for mandatory

00:17:06.260 work, even though it would have been cheaper to hire them. Like she thinks like a fascist in every

00:17:10.340 sense of the term. It is the party of fascism. Now, unironically, there was one person who's

00:17:14.100 like, you can't argue that she's more fascist than Trump. And I'm like, you have to be so brainwashed,

00:17:18.500 so brainwashed to not see this at this point. It is, it is, it is comical that you have black shirts

00:17:24.900 out there going out and beating up peaceful protests, protesting Marxism. But I want to get

00:17:30.580 further because there's a lot of lies about Antifa that go around. One is that Antifa has never been

00:17:34.580 connected with anyone dying. This is just factually untrue. Michael Forrest Reynolds, 48,

00:17:39.620 is considered the prime suspect in the August 2020 killing of 39-year-old Aaron J. Danielson,

00:17:47.380 a right-wing activist who was shot in the demonstration in Portland. Oh. And yeah.

00:17:54.740 So there's, there was one likely death that... Well, Reynald had described himself in a social

00:18:00.980 media post as 100% Antifa and because Antifa is an opt-in organization, you know, obviously, yeah. And

00:18:06.740 there have been some other instances we're going to get in where Antifa has definitely tried

00:18:10.500 to kill people. They're just pretty incompetent, but they keep trying to kill people.

00:18:14.820 It seems as though... I get the impression that at protests, some people just show up because they

00:18:21.380 feel like, oh, it's that event format where I have license to vandalize things and hurt people.

00:18:28.180 Oh, no, no. So Antifa is quite different from like, if you consider like the January 6th protesters or

00:18:32.340 something like that. Like the negative actions that largely came out of that were like mistake,

00:18:37.860 where if you look at Antifa, they're showing up at stuff with like Molotov cocktails.

00:18:42.420 Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. The, the people who show up to protests,

00:18:45.380 because they feel like that they want, they just want by default to vandalize and do family things.

00:18:52.340 No, that's clearly not the case. There are some people...

00:18:54.340 Do you think this is very politically motivated? They're not doing this because they want

00:18:58.340 to hurt someone. And this is just a nice excuse to, because it's like a purge night.

00:19:03.620 Trump supporters aren't bringing bombs to events. And that's what we're going to go over.

00:19:06.980 They're not trying to blow up things.

00:19:08.580 No, but you're not, you're still not answering my question. What I'm saying is,

00:19:13.780 does this not really have to do that much with a political motivation and more to do with just a

00:19:20.340 desire to wreak havoc and be violent?

00:19:23.460 No, that's the exact point I keep making. It literally doesn't have to do with that.

00:19:29.060 If you wanted to wreak havoc and, and, and, and do violent stuff, you, most people,

00:19:34.820 like most human beings, even if they have a background desire to do something like that,

00:19:38.900 they believe that other humans have human dignity, right? Like you need a psychological

00:19:42.660 tool that allows this a and B it's not like they're showing up to recreationally

00:19:48.020 cause violence. If like the opportunity, like, I think that this is,

00:19:51.380 this is the mis-narrative about Antifa that has been successfully distributed to the mainstream

00:19:55.220 audience is that Antifa members go to events and sometimes things accidentally get heated.

00:20:01.620 And we will go over evidence that that is obviously not what's happening. Okay.

00:20:05.940 Yeah.

00:20:06.900 All right. So I'm going to go further into the history of Antifa in the United States

00:20:09.940 of it here and stuff like that. So in the oldest group to use the term Antifa in the United States

00:20:15.540 is Rose City Antifa in Portland, Oregon founded in 2007. So it's a fairly modern movement.

00:20:21.060 Very new. Yeah.

00:20:22.260 They come from a German movement that has existed since the Nazi times, but this is factually

00:20:27.540 inaccurate. The original movement that they claim to be descended from was shut down as the Nazis rose

00:20:33.860 then integrated into the Nazi party. And so like, that's not, yeah, they're definitely not descended

00:20:39.220 from that movie. There was a movement in Germany that started fairly recently, but not quite this

00:20:45.300 recently that they could argue descended from. And then there's another movement in the US,

00:20:49.940 which they could be descended from that we'll get to in a second. One of their biggest sort of things

00:20:54.500 that they're known for is their attacks on the Charlotteville Unite the Right rally in August,

00:20:59.940 2017, where they, and at the rally, there were genuinely white supremacists who went to the rally.

00:21:07.460 No, this is the famous Tiki torch khakis and polo shirt rally, right?

00:21:13.540 Yeah, but they were with some people. And this is the problem with the way the left works. They're like,

00:21:17.540 if you're a free speech organization and you let one person with X ideology show up at your event,

00:21:23.220 then we have a moral license to treat everyone at your event as if they hold that ideology.

00:21:27.620 Where more for them, this is just because they know that if they're exposed to an ideology,

00:21:33.140 they just immediately capitulate to it, which is why they don't let ideologies they don't like at

00:21:36.980 their events, because they have much less like psychological and moral framing. This is something

00:21:41.780 that you told me that really made this hit home for me. The reason why people on the right aren't

00:21:46.980 afraid of having a Nazi like come to their event when they're not a Nazi, right, is because I'm not

00:21:52.580 afraid of becoming a Nazi because a Nazi comes to my event. However, I think I might convince a Nazi

00:21:57.860 to not be a Nazi anymore. Yeah, so all the better if they show up.

00:22:01.220 Yeah, so you would want them to show up if you wanted less Nazis and you're not a Nazi.

00:22:07.140 But if you hold a very weak psychological framework that you believe you only hold because the people

00:22:12.020 around you hold it, then it's really dangerous to have a Nazi show up at your event. And I feel like

00:22:17.300 that's where a lot of these leftist ideologies come from, is that there's some subconscious

00:22:21.060 understanding of how close they are to just being Nazis, but they've changed a few words.

00:22:26.020 Ask him about interracial dating. All I said is that black men who date white women have

00:22:29.780 internalized racism, and white men that date ethnic women are fetishizing them.

00:22:33.300 Guys against interracial dating now. Like, am I being pranked? Did Boomer put you up to this?

00:22:37.780 Ugh, you know that taco place is white-owned? White people should be making white foods,

00:22:41.300 like crap macaroni and cheese, no seasoning, not even salt. It's like he's a mind reader. I mean,

00:22:45.140 I've been pushing for segregation forever, and my man does what? Again, gonna show that skit here.

00:22:49.780 There was the Berkeley protests, which I mentioned there. There was the Inauguration Day protests

00:22:54.420 that were associated with Antifa. These were in 2000. There was the Portland protests, where

00:22:59.380 Antifa groups were involved in multiple clashes, like the Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys in Portland,

00:23:04.820 Oregon. And Proud Boys are a very centrist group. Like, they're like, oh, the racist Proud Boys.

00:23:09.540 I'm like, the group was a black guy running it? Like, what? You guys have so, like, lost the ship here

00:23:15.380 at this point. Or, and this is... Lost the ship. You mean missed the boat?

00:23:20.340 Missed the boat. Okay. And then there's the ICE facility attack in 2019. And this is one of the

00:23:26.420 things I'm talking about, where William Van Sprenser, an Antifa agent, attacked an immigration

00:23:32.180 and customs enforcement detention facility in Tacoma, Washington with a rifle and attempted to

00:23:37.460 ignite a propane tank before being killed by police. Oh my gosh.

00:23:40.820 So, like, they are looking... This isn't like, again, what I'm telling you, this isn't just

00:23:45.700 individuals who are out there and lose control of the situation. This is individuals who, due to

00:23:51.780 their dehumanization of mainstream Americans, are willing to, like, blow up buildings because

00:23:56.740 they don't care who gets hurt. They're just like, ah, well, chances are they're one of these non-human

00:24:01.700 Nazis, right? Now, for people who are wondering, the name Antifa and the logo of two flags represent

00:24:07.700 anarchism and communism, and they're derived from the German movement. Mark Berry, the author of

00:24:13.300 Antifa, the Anti-Fascist Handbook, credits Anti-Fascist Action, or ARA, as a precursor of

00:24:19.780 the modern Antifa groups in the United States. And I did some research on this group, and they are

00:24:23.700 very similar in what they were focused on and stuff like that. So, Antifa is most active right now in the

00:24:31.220 Pacific Northwest in Portland, Oregon. And they were primarily active from, like, 2016 to 2018.

00:24:39.540 And you might say, why don't we see much Antifa stuff happening right now? I think it's because

00:24:45.940 largely most of the people who are part of Antifa have had moments of, like, self-reflection and kind

00:24:50.900 of grown up. I mean, there's a reason, like, a number of our audience comes from this community.

00:24:54.740 I think going out and doing one of these actions, they had genuinely, like, the people involved in

00:25:00.260 Antifa genuinely thought that when they told people that they attacked somebody at an anti-Marxist

00:25:05.300 rally because they assumed that that person was a Nazi, that those people would be like, oh yeah,

00:25:09.700 good for you, you attacked a Nazi with a bike lock. Instead of, oh, you attacked random anti-Marxists

00:25:16.820 with a bike lock? Like, they thought that this psychological trick that was working in their mind

00:25:22.900 was going to work in the media, and it absolutely did not. It made them a great boogeyman for,

00:25:30.020 you know, most of online culture. The people who caught the bike lock attacker guy, because he was

00:25:34.900 going to get away with this, you know, the police weren't doing anything about this, was 4chan.

00:25:38.820 And there is a great video, I believe, by internet historian on this, where he goes into how they

00:25:45.620 found the guy, and it is a really interesting story. April 15th, lest we forget,

00:25:52.500 was one of the biggest PvP battles in recent history. Red Pill Alliance versus Antifa Horde.

00:25:59.620 Outside of the battlefield, GMs and mods stood around doing nothing.

00:26:03.620 Hey, how come you guys are hanging back? That would be a good question for the chief of police.

00:26:07.620 But then, a rogue comes forward. He pops out of stealth. Boom! Cheap shot. 900 critical damage,

00:26:15.540 and stun for 2 seconds. That's a nice mace. Check that out. Oh yeah, level 90 bike lock,

00:26:22.820 plus 40 strength with a 50% proc bleed enchant. The rogue uses vanish and slinks back into the crowd.

00:26:30.340 Sean is seriously hurt. He finds a priest in time, but he needs a trip to the hospital,

00:26:35.380 and several stitches. Jokes aside, this is assault with a deadly weapon. This guy should be... locked up.

00:26:45.060 I'm sorry. During the night, Pol was working busily. They saw what had happened,

00:26:49.940 and they were outraged by it. They unholstered their autism and aimed it squarely at the masked man.

00:26:56.900 The hunt was on. They broke down every bit of footage they could. They found this man,

00:27:02.740 who matched every detail. And then this footage surfaced, where his mask slipped off.

00:27:12.260 Bingo. Turns out he's a teacher's assistant at a local university, specialising in ethics and moral

00:27:21.540 philosophy. The state has a monopoly on how we consume a justice. So for now, he's just another

00:27:27.140 name to add to Pol's new Antifa database. Now, if we're talking again about the types of groups

00:27:33.860 that they end up attacking, right? And this is what I keep coming back to. So a group called the

00:27:39.380 Direct Action Alliance declared, quote, fascist plan to march through the streets, end quote,

00:27:44.820 and warned, quote, Nazis will march through Portland unopposed, end quote.

00:27:49.140 The alliance said it didn't object to the Muhammad Maltman GOP itself, but to, quote unquote,

00:27:55.140 fascists who plan to infiltrate its ranks. Yet it denounced marchers with, quote unquote,

00:27:59.940 Trump fads and, quote unquote, MAGA hats or red MAGA hats as fascists. So this is the way the

00:28:06.580 psychological trick works, right? So if you support Trump, you are fascist. So half of Americans at any

00:28:14.100 given time, roughly, fascist. Yeah. Oh, wow. And so how do they do this? Well, they really like to,

00:28:21.300 you know, they'll do things like gun clubs showing up at stuff. They'll do things like doxing.

00:28:25.140 They'll do things like mass reporting YouTube videos. They'll do things like, obviously,

00:28:30.180 direct acts of terrorism. Really anything they can get away was doing. An important thing to remember

00:28:35.940 about Antifa is their organization is very, very poor, which means that they're more just a

00:28:41.300 representation of a mindset than a representation of an action. Yeah. Almost like a social template,

00:28:47.620 which is interesting in that it can be very anti-fragile. Yeah. Now, an example, when I was

00:28:55.620 talking about like planned destructive acts, in 2020, protests in Portland, a federal courthouse

00:29:01.620 led to Antifa members undertaking a coordinated blockade of federal, state, and local enforcements

00:29:07.780 and an attempt to firebomb the courthouse. Oh, there are a significant number of law enforcement

00:29:13.060 and government personnel. Oh. So, okay. Organized firebombing of government buildings. That's pretty

00:29:20.580 big. Are they also responsible? I know that during the Black Lives Matter protest era, there were some

00:29:29.140 police buildings that were burned down, if memory serves. Was that Antifa or was that just

00:29:34.980 protestors going crazy? Well, I mean, dude, did the people, like, why did they think it was okay

00:29:39.700 to burn down a police department? And this is, I think, the better way to understand Antifa

00:29:44.660 is Antifa can be thought of as anyone who is dehumanizing, you know, a large group of people

00:29:50.260 like this, especially most Americans. So, for example, functionally, the all cops are bastard,

00:29:56.420 ACAB, is another form of Antifa. It's saying, I have a moral license to do whatever I want to any

00:30:02.820 police officer, to any police property. It's what Antifa represents is a moral license to treat normal

00:30:11.060 humans and average citizens the way you would treat the most extreme and dangerous individuals who maybe

00:30:18.820 ever existed that they have begun to align themselves with ideologically. They just use different words to

00:30:24.660 hide that from themselves. And I'd also say to the Trump quote, because I want to read the full

00:30:29.620 Trump quote here in response to Charlottesville, because it was a really well-thought-out, like,

00:30:36.260 well-structured quote, and everyone's always like, oh, the bad people on both sides, and it's like...

00:30:41.140 No, fine people on both sides. Equally bad people.

00:30:43.700 Very fine people.

00:30:45.540 Yeah, there really were equally bad people on both sides.

00:30:48.020 Yeah.

00:30:48.340 So you had some very bad people in the group, but you also had people that were very fine

00:30:52.820 people on both sides. You had people in that group. And then later he goes on to say,

00:30:57.140 I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned

00:31:02.020 totally. But you had many people in the group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,

00:31:06.180 end quote. He also stated, quote, you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the

00:31:12.260 other side that was also very violent. Nobody wants to say it, but I will say it right now,

00:31:16.820 end quote. Completely accurate. And this is the problem with the far left. They cannot see the

00:31:23.540 evil that has infiltrated their own ranks. And it's because when we talk about moral license,

00:31:28.100 that show that you told me about, that I'll play a clip from here, that's like a popular lefty show.

00:31:31.940 The Good Fight.

00:31:33.140 Three weeks ago, Henry Roberts raised $6 million in dark money to fund an off-the-books

00:31:39.780 guerrilla oppo operation. He asked me to run it.

00:31:44.580 Nobody seems to be willing to do what is necessary.

00:31:47.380 And what's that?

00:31:48.820 Whatever it takes. Democrats act like this is the 90s. And they're working under the old rules.

00:31:55.380 The new rules are these. Attack. Lie. Don't get caught.

00:32:00.900 Machiavelli wrote the prince for the rulers. Well, we're rewriting it for us.

00:32:06.260 It basically says we now have a moral license to lie, to cheat, to do whatever we want in these

00:32:12.980 election cycles because they have made up all of these things that Republicans are doing.

00:32:17.620 And this is one of the things that apparently has been a big shift for you is you're realizing

00:32:21.940 that all these things you believed about Republicans growing up as the far lefty

00:32:26.340 are actually more like aspirational lefty things and aren't true about the right at all.

00:32:31.300 We were talking this morning about how I think you grew up with this impression, too, that Republicans

00:32:40.180 had a truly amazing ground game at the local level, that when they could not win at the national

00:32:47.780 level for president, for example, they decided to invest really heavily in local politicians,

00:32:56.020 state reps, to a certain extent, members of the House and Senate just to really win those

00:33:02.260 local games and sort of control that level of policy, which is quite influential.

00:33:06.980 You can really shift the trajectory of our country just looking at local policies.

00:33:11.940 But that is it could not be more opposite the case when you actually look in practice,

00:33:19.700 at least now, at what's happening with the Democrat Party locally and with Republican

00:33:24.500 parties locally. Republican parties across the United States are, for the most part, not there.

00:33:32.100 And to whatever extent the Republican Party supports politicians, it is only a few flagship

00:33:38.020 federal level politicians. Everyone else is completely ignored. It is a very different

00:33:42.900 story at the local level among Democrats running. They are getting immense party support. They are

00:33:48.500 getting tons of funds and they're getting very different treatment. Just the Democrat Party is

00:33:55.380 together and it has the ground game. So it's completely the opposite picture, which really surprised me.

00:34:00.340 And that's just one example of things that... Well, I mean, I think a great second example that I

00:34:06.820 always see is, is Democrats these days really seem to believe the right to be like the anti-democratic

00:34:11.940 faction. They're like, oh, you know, look at the Jan 6 protests and stuff like that, right? Like that,

00:34:18.180 that was an anti-democratic thing when those people were there because they believed. And I, I literally,

00:34:26.740 like I live in a country where I can't say they believed this was evidence. That would make it

00:34:31.300 impossible for you to hear this. If I presented any evidence, you wouldn't be able to see it. The video

00:34:36.900 would immediately be taken down. So I, I say they believed without a shred of evidence, a shred of real

00:34:43.540 evidence. Okay. Because that's what I have to say in this environment that we live in, in this world of

00:34:48.980 thought police, that the election had been undemocratically stolen and that they were

00:34:55.460 protesting that. And the left pretend that this was them trying to steal an election when like,

00:35:04.580 there's been no reflection on, did they just do that? And if you're like, oh, the Democrats would

00:35:10.580 never do something like this. Keep in mind that just before the Jan 6 protests, you had the May 30th

00:35:16.820 protests, which was associated with Antifa and the BLM movement. And in it, protesters, uh,

00:35:24.020 sieged the white house leading to a temporary lockdown with over 60 secret service agents being

00:35:30.580 injured with president Trump being taken to an underground bunker for his safety, where there

00:35:36.020 was serious property damage, graffiti and vandalism and where the DC national guard was called to assist.

00:35:44.820 So it's wild that you hear about one of these events and people were put in jail for like five,

00:35:50.500 six years for one of these events. And the other one, just everyone's completely let off scot-free

00:35:55.140 and we pretend like it never happened. And it's just because of who controls our media.

00:35:58.020 If your response to this is these two protests are nothing alike because the Antifa members didn't

00:36:02.820 successfully break into the white house. The problem with this line of argument is that the Jan 6

00:36:07.780 protesters did not break into the Capitol building either. It was the law enforcement itself that

00:36:12.900 removed the barriers. So most of the people who are sitting in jail today for, quote unquote,

00:36:18.180 breaking into the Capitol building had no idea that there were ever any barriers there and was

00:36:23.220 just peacefully following a crowd of other protesters who were walking through the Capitol building.

00:36:29.060 There was no way for most of them to know that they were not allowed to be there. And I think when you

00:36:34.740 look at the actions of Antifa, you see that in part, what ended up damning the Jan 6 protesters is that

00:36:41.860 they were much more obviously a peaceful group. And so it made sense, for example, for the guards to

00:36:49.380 remove the barriers and let them in where the Antifa group, it was very obvious if they got into the

00:36:54.420 white house, people would start getting murdered.

00:36:56.100 Like, and this is one of those things that you actually have only really recently come around

00:37:01.460 on. And what, what caused you to come around on it? That was like, I just like, I can't.

00:37:06.420 There was nothing you could say that would convince me that there were election wiggles taking place.

00:37:13.300 And then obviously running for state rep in Pennsylvania, I've met with a lot of people

00:37:20.020 who've done a total, like huge, huge amount of local volunteering for the Republican Party and for

00:37:27.220 Republican candidates who've seen a lot of really weird things. Known Democrat operatives dumping large

00:37:34.580 numbers of mail-in ballots, ballot drop boxes on election day. In the United States, it's not,

00:37:41.860 you're not authorized to collect for people mail-in ballots. And you, you as a voter have to submit it

00:37:48.260 yourself, either mailing it in or dropping it yourself in a box, seeing really weird blips and

00:37:53.220 changes in votes. For example, in many local elections, they would see a Republican candidate

00:38:00.420 ahead by, you know, a significant number of points. And then instantly that lead just immediately flips

00:38:09.060 to the Democrat Party and exactly the same number of votes. Just, oh, what happened? Just a lot of weird

00:38:15.860 things like that. Well, I think it's, it's, it's, it's something that you just see over and over and

00:38:23.940 over again. But if you're a party that believes what, what was said in that show, the new rules are

00:38:29.780 these attack, lie, don't get caught. Machiavelli wrote the prince for the rulers. Well, we're rewriting

00:38:38.660 it for us. That we now have to lie, that we now have to cheat, that we now have to do whatever is

00:38:43.780 necessary to win. Well, and when you think about what happened with Trump derangement syndrome,

00:38:47.540 and it's really starting to settle in with me, there are a lot of people, even very competent,

00:38:52.740 smart, educated, rational people who have just concluded that a system under Trump is just so

00:39:00.820 unimaginably bad that almost anything is justified to ensure that he does not come into power again,

00:39:11.060 that, and, or that the system is so corrupt that if that's how the system's going to be,

00:39:17.540 then the only way for them to operate within it is to lie and cheat and steal. But they're kind

00:39:24.740 of defining corrupt as in I didn't win, which is not ideal. Yeah. I don't always control everything

00:39:31.460 is what corrupt is. And I think this is, it's, it's, it's, and when we talk about like anti-democratic,

00:39:37.220 I just genuinely can't believe that the mainstream democratic sentiment has become so anti-democratic

00:39:43.060 that they just stopped hosting their primaries and nobody f***ing cared. That is the weirdest thing

00:39:49.620 I have ever seen to the human embodiment of everything that BLM was protesting against. Like,

00:39:56.340 that is so weird. Oh, Kamala Harris being the human embodiment of that. Yeah. It represents putting

00:40:02.660 black people in prison for her own, you know, ability to win using prison labor, not releasing

00:40:09.140 people despite the Supreme court saying that they should be released, not, you know, letting police

00:40:14.820 off who had had a dangerous, like shooting cases. And then there was some government corruption cases

00:40:20.340 where she, you know, was very unfair and how she handled that where you have her running mate

00:40:26.580 being the guy who was arresting people in his state for leaving their houses during COVID and then

00:40:32.820 created a snitch line. So your neighbors could call on you leaving your house during COVID, like the

00:40:37.940 level of just embodiment of fascism that this now shows. And it's, and then there, and they just

00:40:47.140 completely fictionalized who they're fighting against. It's a complete fiction. Like the Republican

00:40:52.500 national convention doesn't even define marriage as a man and a woman in, in their, in their like

00:40:57.460 mainstream party positions anymore. Like that's the nannas that we're still pretending like this is

00:41:06.260 anything other than a genuinely fascist party and the party that's trying to save America for

00:41:12.580 descending into fascism. And I would think that we were delusional, but even other people in the space,

00:41:19.380 not necessarily beholden to any particular party have commented that in the debate, even that

00:41:25.780 recently took place, the most recent presidential. Oh, well, yeah, no, there's a suspicion of

00:41:32.660 colluding, but actually what people have been saying is that Kamala definitely comes across as the more

00:41:37.860 right-wing candidate. So that's interesting. I don't really know what to make of it. I had come into

00:41:44.740 this thinking that Antifa was more about anarchy and more about chaos and more about violence. It

00:41:50.500 doesn't come as a surprise to me that there isn't any formal, there's no organization with a tax

00:41:57.060 identification number that raises funds and has, you know, a meeting and membership cards that, you know,

00:42:03.700 but yeah, that, that it's actually very Marxist and that it's actually defining anyone.

00:42:10.740 I think what they are is they are the ground forces. They are the radicalized every man

00:42:17.940 who thinks it's okay to kill a random supporter of, of the right, right? Like any random Trump

00:42:24.020 supporter so that they can, you know, yes, we have a one party in this country that's controlled the

00:42:29.220 elites. They control almost every company in this country. They control almost every major source of

00:42:34.740 power in this country. They don't hold elections anymore. They just choose who's going to win their

00:42:39.940 primaries. They represent, you know, the, the, the mass incarceration of black people. They

00:42:46.260 represent the mass and corporate corporation. They create the maladies that then they use to radicalize

00:42:54.020 their own supporters to go and attack the people who are fighting against this elitist

00:43:01.780 of fascist system. And genuinely, this might be our last chance to stop them because it's,

00:43:07.940 it's becoming increasingly clear to me that they really just do not value elections anymore,

00:43:13.140 that voting is no longer one of the core values of the left. It's right. Think wrong thing. Like

00:43:19.140 that's it. There is that. And it, it, it scares me. It scares me to be in a country that is this close to

00:43:26.420 the edge. And all we need to do is win a few election cycles and outweigh them. They're not having

00:43:31.140 kids. They have tried to mass convert ours, but like, if you look at gen alpha sentiments,

00:43:36.100 they've already lost this game. You know, we just need to wait for them to come into the voting block.

00:43:40.420 And I will note for the conservatives who are confused and think gen alpha is because there's

00:43:46.500 still some like theocratic, like, you know, big business, a holdout conservatives before big

00:43:51.220 business went far left. And they think when gen alpha is going right, that the gen alpha is like

00:43:56.740 becoming like ortho bros or something. No, they're becoming the new right. They're right. Like we are

00:44:01.540 right. They're not right. Like you are right. They're like pro gay, right? They're like, you know,

00:44:07.540 they, they are, they are not the right of the old theocrat. They are the right of the genuinely

00:44:13.940 anti-fascist faction of the right. That's trying to stop this increasing takeover of our government

00:44:21.860 by this elitist faction, which is hiding information for people. Now, one thing I want

00:44:26.180 to make absolutely clear. So no one could misconstrue us as arguing this. There was definitely

00:44:31.940 no election fraud. None happened at all. Everything was above board. The people at January 6th were

00:44:40.820 monstrous terrorists who definitely arresting them and throwing them in jail was the right thing to do.

00:44:47.220 So I don't want any misunderstanding that I, I, I, I said, or I endorsed any other view. We were just

00:44:53.780 making hypothetical arguments that some people might make. Don't you agree, Simone? Yes.

00:44:59.940 It's all hypothetical that we're talking here. Like all of these like hypothetical people we're

00:45:04.340 talking about is just like how someone on the right might come to believe these things, not

00:45:09.300 that this is actually happening. Exactly. So I have an interview here with one of our fans who

00:45:16.740 was in Antifa. So I'm really excited to share this with you guys. I will say that there are audio

00:45:22.340 issues because audio is much louder than mine and I lack the technical competence to equalize this. I

00:45:27.700 have tried a number of different programs and it doesn't seem to be working. And because we publish daily,

00:45:31.940 I just have to bite the bullet on this one. So either you find the information interesting and you listen

00:45:36.900 to it or you can always just hop off. I mean, you've got the full episode already that we had

00:45:40.980 intended to publish. This is one of the downsides of hosting a daily show. You don't always have time

00:45:46.420 to fix every issue you run into. And if you're wondering what's your proof that this guy was in

00:45:50.580 Antifa, this guy has Antifa dates tattooed very visibly on his arm. That would be quite a thing to go

00:45:56.900 in to just pretend to have been a very dedicated member of Antifa. Hello, I am excited to be here with

00:46:02.500 a guest right now. So in the episode that you just heard, we talk about how Antifa is used more like

00:46:09.620 a moral license than a specific organization. However, that doesn't mean that specific organizations

00:46:16.900 that operate under the name Antifa do not do significant operations in cities and stuff like that.

00:46:24.420 And I thought to bring on one of our podcast listeners who used to be an Antifa member

00:46:30.660 and is now doing some work in terms of building the knowledge about what actually goes on with

00:46:36.020 them and stuff like that. And you have a podcast as well, which is...

00:46:39.780 Build Baby Build with Ty King. You can find it on YouTube, hopefully soon Truth as well.

00:46:46.420 Great. You know that's the Brian Kaplan book that just came out, right?

00:46:49.940 Oh, is that the name? Oh yeah, because when I type in Build Baby Build,

00:46:52.740 he's the other Build Baby Build that types up. Yeah, it's taken from an old Martin Luther King quote.

00:46:57.620 It's essentially, we shouldn't burn, baby, burn. We should build, baby, build. And essentially,

00:47:02.820 we need to stay away from riotous behavior and violence in my estimation, because it doesn't work.

00:47:08.580 It really doesn't. So what I am most interested in, and I know what I would mostly, and I think

00:47:13.540 most people would most like to know, is one, when people are going to like Antifa meetings,

00:47:18.500 for example, what is being talked about? How are they structured? How do they like communicate with

00:47:24.260 each other? There's varying degrees, right? Whenever I think of Antifa, I'm trying to break

00:47:29.300 this more nuanced over time, but I think of, so far, the wannabes versus the devotees. Think of

00:47:34.900 the devotees as your avowed communist, or those that are there for the war, they're there for the

00:47:39.620 action, they're there to get in the fight. Those are your devotees. They know kind of what comes with

00:47:44.100 the territory. The wannabes are kind of like your rainbow-haired trans kids that come in with the

00:47:48.980 Antifa flag, and they're there because they hate Nazis, they support certain policies, but they

00:47:54.740 don't really know what they're engaged with. So kind of in the same way Hamas uses Palestinians,

00:47:59.220 they're the human shields for the actual people within Antifa to operate. So more often than not,

00:48:05.060 they're the first ones that will be arrested. If action is called to by police and violence breaks

00:48:10.180 out on both sides, the wannabes will often be the first to get hit, tackled, punched, arrested.

00:48:15.780 So that way people within the devoted class can look and be like, see, this is what we told you,

00:48:20.660 this is happening. And as far as the meetings, I never got into any higher up structure to where

00:48:25.940 I could go to any higher up meetings. I know that that's a thing. I've heard whispers, but a lot of

00:48:30.580 it is on the ground coaching. It's you go into these environments and they groom you on, this is what you

00:48:36.500 say if the police come, this is what you say in certain instances. When you say these environments,

00:48:40.900 are these like sub groups that are happening at a, like a protest, or is it like you go to somebody's

00:48:47.700 house or an office or something?

00:48:51.540 Yes, yes, and yes. And particularly parties. So that's the thing. Is it so nuanced? Here in Eugene,

00:48:56.580 talking to people that I know down in Texas or on the East Coast, Oregon has become such a radically

00:49:01.620 indifferent environment to where post Antifa and Black Lives Matter, there really is a different

00:49:05.860 environment. Everyone here that I've been talking to lately is supporting the Trump assassination.

00:49:10.900 Everyone wants every Nazi killed and arrested. Everyone supports every trans ideology under the

00:49:15.540 sun. So the environment here in this town, in Eugene, Springfield, and in Portland particularly,

00:49:21.140 is everywhere you go, you talk about these things. So you don't really need one central rallying meetup

00:49:27.460 point. It's more about talking within your own circles, sending off texts, sending off whatever have

00:49:33.140 you. It's really as simple as you can meet someone in a bar, have a drink with them, and by the end of

00:49:38.500 that drink, you're exchanging information, you think you're on the same page, and this guy's telling

00:49:42.660 you, hey, be here Wednesday at three o'clock. I'll meet you there, and then we'll figure out things

00:49:46.660 from there. It is so broad and diverse in its tactics. And so it's really organic.

00:49:53.940 It's what Antifa is, is the radicalized mindset. And the radicalized mindset allows for an organizational

00:50:02.340 structure to organically develop through random meetings. I guess then my second question here

00:50:07.860 would be, do you believe that more of the socialization of the Antifa stuff happens at

00:50:16.340 in-person event or in like online message boards and stuff?

00:50:20.660 I would say online messaging boards, memes. You know, I don't know anyone in my generation,

00:50:25.060 I'm 27. There's like this weird thing to where everyone in my kind of age group, they'll say like

00:50:30.020 on an online meme speak, everything went downhill when Harambe died. You know, and everyone kind of

00:50:36.420 followed these different memes and thought patterns, and everybody was in coordination. The conservative

00:50:41.140 side was a little more fractured in doing what they would. But as far as like liberalism, far left

00:50:45.060 memes, everybody walked in lockstep. And if you didn't walk in lockstep, well, then you're not on my page

00:50:50.820 anymore. You're blocked. You don't get to be a part of the meme. You don't get to be a part of the

00:50:54.020 messaging cycle. It's kind of like how we had all the goodbye Joe Biden, good guy, Joe Biden memes.

00:50:58.180 And then less than a year later, oh, Joe Biden's running for president. That was one of the memes

00:51:02.420 that would be continually shared. And that's really what detracted from Black Lives Matter

00:51:06.100 and the original things with police violence and racial issues is there were like long structured,

00:51:10.660 detailed lists, and they had to meme it down and make it smaller and smaller and smaller to make

00:51:16.180 it digestible for quite crudely, any retard to digest, go out there and act on what they think they

00:51:20.740 want to act on. Yeah. Well, and one thing I've noticed, you know, whether it's Black Lives Matter

00:51:24.900 or what Antifa seems to broadly stand for is it's really seems much more focused, at least at the

00:51:30.580 ground level, on the things that they are against. And they don't really take specific policies of

00:51:35.940 things that they want to support, which leads to there being ideologically a pretty diverse group of

00:51:40.980 people who might be antagonistic towards each other if they actually talked about their goals.

00:51:45.780 How is that managed? It isn't. So that's one of the things that made me leave in 2020 is as things

00:51:51.620 began to heat up about the May 29th era, because for all those that don't know, Antifa did an

00:51:56.980 insurrection in D.C. before January 6th. And I wouldn't even consider January 6th an insurrection

00:52:02.020 so much as federal infiltration like they did with a lot of the Black Lives Matter protesters.

00:52:06.180 But I got a fun change. What was the original question? I'm sorry.

00:52:09.300 No, I was wondering how they dealt with like the different ideologies.

00:52:11.940 But yes, I want to know about May 29th. I don't know anything about May 29th. I was going to look

00:52:16.260 that up and add something about it. So I'd like to look up more myself because I was so I got this

00:52:22.340 tattoo on my wrist here. Right. And it's May 31st. I was drunk and I got the date wrong. I think it was

00:52:28.180 actually May 30th or something like that. So Antifa and Black Lives Matter went into D.C.

00:52:33.060 And I want to say it was like eight days, maybe of prolonged like protest, rightist behavior.

00:52:39.540 They stormed the White House. Trump got locked down in the bunker. And while that was happening

00:52:43.700 on the East Coast over here on the West Coast, people were cheering. So in our case, one of the

00:52:48.980 things that they did freaking out because of what was happening in D.C. is blue cities all across the

00:52:53.460 country began to institute COVID measures in an effort to back off the protesters. So they actually

00:52:59.460 set up a curfew at our Whole Foods that we have here in Eugene. And they said if you pass the Whole Foods,

00:53:03.700 you're within the perimeter zone. And then if you're on the outside, you know, you can't come in.

00:53:08.340 And then the people within the protest zone didn't get the text alerts. And then the people outside

00:53:11.940 did. But what that created was actually one of the moments that made me want to walk away from

00:53:16.980 Antifa out of many. But that was the night that I essentially kind of saw a battle going down in

00:53:21.700 the streets of Eugene. I saw kids get their heads caved in. I saw drones chasing after people.

00:53:26.180 Cars tried to run me and my friends over in the streets. We were hopping over backyards getting shot

00:53:30.100 at with rubber bullets and tear gas. And it all stemmed from May 29th. But they just want to have

00:53:35.860 us fixated on January 6th, January 6th, January 6th, January 6th. Well, the feds infiltrated January 6th

00:53:41.940 using people dressed as Antifa members and people on the far right. All the video footage under the

00:53:46.580 sun is out. And really, that's something that they did in Portland and in Eugene and in Springfield as

00:53:51.220 well. They practiced the tactics of January 6th on the Black Lives crowd and on the Antifa crowd.

00:53:56.740 And then they moved on to the conservative crowd because ultimately what they want to do is get one

00:54:00.500 side or another branded as a terrorist. So they can brand both sides as a terrorist and then they can

00:54:04.420 go after everybody under the sun. When in actuality, I think they need to look at Antifa like a gang.

00:54:10.260 That's really interesting. So can you, I don't want to push you to, to talk about anything you're

00:54:14.100 uncomfortable talking about, but can you talk a little bit about how you might think of them as a gang?

00:54:19.620 Yeah, it's all tribal. It's all colors. So I have this theory and it's a little crude, but I think it's a

00:54:26.420 theory that pans out. When I explain to people, they're kind of like, oh, but it's the wigger to

00:54:30.340 jihad theory. So it's no secret that we live in a country where the young white men specifically are

00:54:36.980 completely isolated. Young men in general, but young white men in particular. So when I was growing up,

00:54:42.500 I actually, I should be aware. I don't know if this generation knows the, the wig word. Like,

00:54:48.100 I think we might have audience members who might think you just said the N word because I don't think

00:54:52.420 anyone has used it in 10 years. Social community that, I mean, when I was in middle school or like

00:55:02.980 early middle school, like I dressed like this, you know, like it was white kids who wore like

00:55:07.380 sagging pants and lots of like rap music and tried to emulate members of like famous members of the

00:55:15.140 black community at the time. However, it mostly died out. Like we might do an episode on why,

00:55:27.140 like there's so little black cultural influence in America anymore, because it is interesting.

00:55:31.620 It used to be like a really dominant cultural force in America. And I think it mostly died back

00:55:38.500 due to the invention of the concept of cultural appropriation. Because if you tried to do that

00:55:42.900 today, people would say, well, you're culturally appropriating, but it was really, really,

00:55:47.140 really common for a period for people who are in Gen Z and are like, this wasn't a thing.

00:55:52.340 Anyway, continue. Yeah. Well, that's where the theory comes in. Right. Is I don't think that

00:55:56.020 cultural appropriation and the calling of it out necessarily stopped it. I think it shifted.

00:56:00.820 So you had all these young men who either felt disaffected because their family structures were falling

00:56:06.020 apart and there was stuff going on at home and they felt like they needed to take charge by putting on

00:56:10.820 this tough guy attire. Or, you know, you just had the little geeky white kid that needed a sense of

00:56:15.060 belonging, which I mean, in my case, I'm a juggalo. So that was me to a certain extent. I had my chains

00:56:19.460 and my baggy pants and doing all that, hanging out with my buddies, doing drugs and shit. Like,

00:56:23.620 it's a thing. But I think whenever gender came along that it just, it kind of became the next thing.

00:56:30.260 And I have a video breaking it down further, but, you know, we kind of go from wanting to emulate

00:56:35.860 black and then we go to metrosexuality where, you know, visually speaking, a lot of people are

00:56:40.260 wanting to kind of emulate being gay and all these different things of what's acceptable,

00:56:44.820 what's permissible. All these doors are being opened, but it's not about actually what's about

00:56:50.740 what's going on in the LGBT community or the African American community. Right. It's the clothes.

00:56:55.540 It's the look. It's the caricature. So you fast forward a couple of years. Well,

00:56:59.620 kids aren't Wiggers anymore. They're all turning trans. Well, these trans kids,

00:57:04.500 it's not just light and fluffy anymore. They're starting to act like they're into the gangster

00:57:09.140 culture. They're into the drugs. They're into the rap. They're becoming increasingly more violent

00:57:13.860 to where it's almost kind of replacing that. But in the sense that this gender ideology works as a

00:57:18.980 religious replacement, now that that's not working anymore, you notice how a lot of these trans

00:57:22.980 activists and a lot of these angry trans kids are now hopping over to jihad and Hamas support.

00:57:27.540 And now they're all wearing the scarves. And now they're all, it's, I feel like it's step by step by

00:57:33.220 I haven't seen that. So what's interesting is as they've moved to these more jihadist mindsets,

00:57:38.340 they don't signal it in online spaces in a way that conservatives can see as easily.

00:57:44.100 So I'm wondering if you could talk about like, is this, is this like pretty normalized among like the

00:57:48.660 trans activists right now who are in the Antifa movement, like the jihadity mindset, the like,

00:57:54.260 that's how you prove you're extra serious.

00:57:56.340 So all I can see, a lot of it's coming from external factors. I'm not really around any

00:58:01.620 Antifa, ex-Antifa members anymore. I just met one ex-Antifa member, which is a story we can get

00:58:06.020 to if you want. But separate from that, a lot of it's what we're seeing with online. Like you got

00:58:10.020 that little trans non-binary girl that's like, oh, it doesn't see gender. This is the Quran.

00:58:14.020 You're seeing this kind of explosion online from the LGBT community of queers for Palestine,

00:58:20.420 you know, radical insane stuff. You know, I was leaving work the other day. I work at downtown

00:58:24.180 Eugene and it was just all this project 2025 is a white conservative jihad. But then all,

00:58:32.500 but next to those same signs was like free Palestine and Gaza and all this shit simultaneously.

00:58:37.940 It's identity hopping. And these kids are so confused that what all of this has done over

00:58:42.740 black lives matter in Antifa, all the kids that are basically screaming for the death of the Jews

00:58:47.060 right now, whether they realize it or not, they were groomed for this. They were groomed to see

00:58:51.860 through the lens of oppressed versus oppressor. And they don't realize right now that they are playing

00:58:57.300 holy war and you can't convince these people that they're acting religious because so many people

00:59:01.700 here in particular, we have generations of kids who not even their parents or their grandparents

00:59:07.060 were religious. So when they start acting religious in themselves, they can't see it. And if you try to make that

00:59:12.660 comparison, they will flip out on you. Oh, interesting. Well, it's also interesting to see

00:59:17.700 what causes people to flip out because those are usually like evolved social triggers to prevent them

00:59:23.620 from engaging with ideas that might be threatening to their world perspective. So that also, you know,

00:59:28.900 has me believe that if they could recognize that it is, I mean, that's where the anger is coming from,

00:59:34.820 right? You don't get angry if somebody is making a totally, you know, pointless or not on point

00:59:42.020 accusation. So that's really interesting. And I, I have, I have noticed that jihad stuff. I should dig

00:59:46.580 into it more because like I hear about it and it seems to be happening at like their parties and stuff.

00:59:52.260 Okay. I guess here's another question I have. So you mentioned like people get activated by like

00:59:57.940 someone you meet and then they're like, Oh, be at this event on this time. Do you know the core

01:00:02.980 channels through which they are like activating or reaching people? Is it typically like you'd get

01:00:08.180 an email or a phone number, like a meme would start or like, how would people find out to be at an

01:00:13.700 event? I think it's all of the above and it's also convoluted. And the thing is social media offers

01:00:20.180 certain protections for certain political groups that want to organize. So I think any noted a story

01:00:25.540 on in about a year or two, it's where certain people can post about their organizing, organizing

01:00:29.860 protests, and then others can't. Some people can post about, you need to go counter this and

01:00:35.380 they'll have their stuff removed. And then the other side will feel like you need to go counter

01:00:38.500 this and then they'll have their stuff removed. I think social media is tinkering with this in

01:00:43.300 coordination with governments. I mean, we've seen the fascism for ourselves. We've seen the unholy

01:00:47.860 alliance of corporations and government and big business in the Biden administration while

01:00:51.860 everyone's been blinded because yay, Trump's gone. We don't have to pay attention. Now they've

01:00:55.300 been ramping it up and ramping it up and ramping it up. And a lot of this too, I, after this week,

01:01:01.300 I can say this solidly, a lot of this is criminal in nature. And it's not that the kids themselves

01:01:07.620 are a part of criminal elements. I believe that outside gangs and outside underworld organizations

01:01:12.580 are feeding off of this. They are sending people into the protests and into these groups.

01:01:17.780 And I believe that they are using children. I believe that they are using drug meals. And the way it

01:01:23.860 was explained to me in some of my investigations this week, when a riot is happening on this side

01:01:29.380 of Portland and all the police are here, what's going on over here? We don't, we don't think about

01:01:36.260 that. Right. Cause all the cameras are over here. All the people are over here.

01:01:39.460 Yeah. Go ahead.

01:01:41.460 A lot of this can be contextualized as, as malevolent. And I think that people just aren't really thinking

01:01:47.460 through that. It is only organic that criminal organizations would become involved in this.

01:01:51.860 If you have a group that can pull police presence to a specific area, and that group regularly

01:01:57.860 consumes drugs, illegal drugs that the criminal organizations already need to bring in. So

01:02:02.900 they're naturally going to have connections within those communities and the connections

01:02:07.140 are likely going to be high level within both communities. So let me explain what I mean here.

01:02:12.260 If for example, I'm an organization that's running, you know, cocaine or ecstasy or something like that.

01:02:17.380 And I was going to have somebody who was a distributor, you know, making money, distributing

01:02:20.980 that for me, who better to be a distributor than a high level member of a social organizing group.

01:02:27.780 Right. So it's very likely that important individuals within both groups would have a level of overlap.

01:02:34.820 And so that the groups would use these individuals to put people in specific locations to distract

01:02:42.820 police. And here's the thing, if you're running drugs, you know, like you're a cartel, you're going

01:02:48.340 to also be doing human trafficking. You're going to also be doing like all of the bad stuff comes

01:02:52.820 together. And so I think that there's sort of two sides of this is, I think that people may

01:03:00.100 be misunderstanding this as being more Machiavellian than it might really be. Not that you're,

01:03:05.940 it's not like evil people who are doing this, but does the person who ends up leading a Antifa group

01:03:14.260 where they often have parties where there's ecstasy and then becomes a distributor for a local

01:03:19.460 criminal syndicate. Does that person not care about Antifa's aims? No, they do care about Antifa's

01:03:25.140 aims, but does that person also get maybe extra money from the criminal organization? Does the criminal

01:03:30.980 organization have the capacity to maybe lay out bricks for them or lay out guns or do other things

01:03:36.260 like that that can make their job easier if they just move the date or let them know so that it

01:03:41.860 overlaps with a, and they may not know that this is what's happening that day, a human trafficking,

01:03:47.700 you know, move, big, big movement of supply can go on because that's actually kind of hard to do

01:03:52.740 when you're doing big human trafficking moves because typically they get sort of consolidated at safe

01:03:57.140 houses and then they need to move them, like distribute them to other safe houses.

01:04:00.500 Bit by bit by bit by bit rather than training them out essentially.

01:04:04.500 Yeah. So, so doing something like a riot can be very, very useful in terms of, of, of doing that.

01:04:10.980 And in terms of concentrating a customer base over a period of time. I mean, I bet you,

01:04:15.380 if you look at something like chop or Chaz, like the amount of money that was made by criminal

01:04:19.860 organizations while that was operational must've been astronomical.

01:04:23.060 Yeah. Like what was going on in those downtown buildings? They're surrounded by skyscrapers.

01:04:26.820 They took over police. What was going on behind the walls?

01:04:29.860 Cause we see people doing whippets and dancing and some people are going in and want to make

01:04:33.460 it seem silly. Others want to make it seem dark or others want to make it seem like there's

01:04:36.340 nothing going on. But, and the thing is, is a lot of their distributors worth you're thinking adults,

01:04:41.380 man, kids, they're using homeless kids. They are using the disaffected youth, the kids that are

01:04:49.780 running away from their families. Kids are easier to use. Kids are easier to manipulate. Kids are easier to get

01:04:55.540 rid of. Yeah. Well, and I also think that, that it's likely that you have, what's the word I'm

01:05:01.140 looking for here. Some of the kids are likely probably not also homeless. The best distributor

01:05:06.580 for these organizations are often rich kids. Um, because they have lots of people with lots of

01:05:12.100 money they can sell to for, you know, your elitist. And even if you're talking about older,

01:05:17.780 like the ideal distributor for them is the person who runs the Antifa network at a local rich college.

01:05:22.820 Um, like, and all this comes out of the U of O too. Like a lot of Antifa's top people and a lot of

01:05:28.180 people from there, it, a lot of it's U of O. I used to live like a block or two up the road.

01:05:32.980 Like I was at the central starting point for where a lot of the protest meetups would go.

01:05:37.620 And yeah, it's all college based. So much of it is, and the schools encourage it and they bow down to

01:05:46.500 them. And I mean, Eugene, so much of it, we're controlled by Chinese interest. I mean, Nike operates

01:05:53.700 out of Eugene and they use bigger slave labor. It's like, there's so many like foreign connections.

01:05:59.060 The West coast has become such a completely different country than the rest of America.

01:06:04.180 I'm realizing we don't really, we don't operate the same way other people do. It's a new culture.

01:06:10.820 There was a section here that I had to take out because they'd got too specific

01:06:14.660 in terms of the organized crime groups that Antifa is working with.

01:06:18.260 My, my, my intuition would be that it is not intrinsically that Chinese organized crime

01:06:24.980 is disproportionately in, in working with Antifa. It's just that it's probably whoever is the,

01:06:31.220 the largest and most organized local crime group is going to be the one that's going to

01:06:34.820 naturally work with them. And most crime groups have an ethnic component. I either, either like

01:06:39.540 Latin or black or Chinese, or probably the only one that Antifa isn't going to accidentally start

01:06:44.580 working with is one of the, you know, like Nazi or white, white criminal groups. But I mean,

01:06:48.260 who knows? One of my things about Antifa is I'm always shocked that they, did they,

01:06:52.740 when you were there, did they do the black shirt thing? The, I did.

01:06:56.580 So like, do they not know who the black shirts were historically? Like, so you might not know.

01:07:02.660 I know the brown shirts, but they know there's black shirts.

01:07:05.140 The brown shirts were Hitler's group, but he made them after the black shirts, which were Mussolini's

01:07:10.500 group. The very first fascists called their foot soldiers, the black shirt. Um, that is,

01:07:17.460 and then Hitler wanted to copy it, but he didn't want it to be exactly black shirts.

01:07:20.260 So he called them the brown shirts, but yeah, Mussolini's black shirts. Actually,

01:07:23.700 their, their famous phrase was something like, fuck around to find out. Okay.

01:07:26.900 I'm going to, ah, that's fucking familiar. Jesus. And this is, and I'm not laughing because

01:07:33.220 it's funny. It's I'm so I'm years disconnected from this, but it's like, I'm still learning

01:07:38.100 like the extent to which my behavior took me to the historical things that I was tinkering with that

01:07:43.300 I had no idea because like we used to write phone numbers on our arms of our contacts for if we got

01:07:50.020 arrested and that was to simulate the Jews. We would always talk about it. It's like the Holocaust.

01:07:54.100 Here we are with our numbers on our arms. Here I am with my husband's phone number on my arm and

01:07:58.180 you would look down and the goal was to like, make you subconsciously feel like you were facing the

01:08:02.900 same historical relevancy situation as them. That's really powerful. By the way, the, the,

01:08:07.780 the term I, I missed was mine, which means I don't care or like, I don't give a S is,

01:08:15.700 it's probably a better term. And that's the embodiment of Antifa. If you could sum it up

01:08:18.660 all in one slogan, I don't care or do what thou will. That's really what it boils down to.

01:08:24.500 Can you talk about, is there any other psychological tools or techniques you remember that helped you

01:08:29.140 think of other people as Nazis? The ISIS comparisons, you have rednecks coming in

01:08:33.780 with trucks and American flags. So a lot of people like to paint the symbolism of, well,

01:08:37.380 look at ISIS over there with their Toyotas and their ISIS flags. So whenever people would come in

01:08:42.420 rallying with the trucks, it would make you feel like that was going on. There's a lot of instances,

01:08:48.260 people will just go and they will just Hitler salute just to piss you off because they know you're a

01:08:53.860 dumbass and they know you're going to freak out. So they'll go on the other side of the hill and

01:08:56.820 they'll Nazi salute and that'll get people enraged. But for me, when I was going out majority of the

01:09:02.420 time I was drunk or high, I was on narcotics. I was on alcohol. I was impaired just like most

01:09:07.780 people in Antifa are because a lot of them are so dependent that it's at all times. Like,

01:09:12.260 why are they so confident? It's a chemical induced ego that drives their confidence in narcissism.

01:09:17.860 You can't talk, you can't talk sense into an alcoholic. You can't talk sense into a meth head.

01:09:22.900 You can't convince someone on ketamine that you know more than them.

01:09:25.380 Yeah. Well, and it also makes a lot of sense then. So, so I, I, I absolutely believe you're,

01:09:30.980 you're, you're, you're right there. And it would make sense that they would do that. And this is why,

01:09:34.900 you know, going to a protest to try to diffuse them, to try to talk with them in that environment

01:09:40.820 is probably a very bad idea. And instead focus on, you know, online conversations and stuff like

01:09:46.100 that. That makes a lot of sense. Now talking to conservatives though, they,

01:09:49.700 because I had a jacket, it was black on the outside camel on the inside. So I would just flip it out.

01:09:54.900 And I'd kind of play both sides. The com, the conservatives, they were there to talk.

01:09:59.140 And that's just something I want to highlight there too, through all my time there, they're

01:10:02.340 wanting to speak. They're wanting to pray with me. They're wanting to share stories and they're

01:10:06.340 wanting to be like, Hey, this is wrong. That helped a lot. So if you do go to these events,

01:10:11.380 you try to talk. Yeah. Cause I, I came to the right, you know, I wasn't like originally on the right.

01:10:18.020 And the right is like really accepting, like way more than I would have anticipated. I would say

01:10:25.380 though it's different depending on the type of right events that you're at, but one of the main

01:10:30.260 types of right events, like the type that really likes Trump, they're like, everyone you talk to

01:10:34.420 is just so excited to share their conspiracy theory with you. Yeah, it's fine. And there'll be all

01:10:40.260 sorts of different counteracting conspiracies, but they're like, Oh dude, I got to bring you in

01:10:45.860 on the conspiracy. And you might think it's interesting how like anti-government they are

01:10:50.740 anti-authority. They are like, everything's this big conspiracy. And that's, and well,

01:10:55.620 that, and that's the thing too, is like, that's actually how Antifa, at least, I mean,

01:10:59.700 it started way back in the thirties, but in the modern day, from my perspective, going into it,

01:11:03.540 those were the types of people in Antifa that drew me in like the occupied wall street people.

01:11:07.700 They're like, Hey, do you know what's really going on in the middle East? Do you know what's really

01:11:09.940 going on with UFOs? But as the federal government came in and all these outside forces came in and

01:11:15.540 infiltrated Antifa, which I do believe they did just like they did the proud boys or any other group,

01:11:19.380 they turned it into a spiritual trap to where they said, you can no longer question,

01:11:24.820 you can no longer explore these things. And I mean, you look over on the right,

01:11:29.540 right now. And all these people that I knew who are super religious, who hated, hated other

01:11:34.340 religions growing up. Now they're sitting back like, huh, that's no different than my religion

01:11:39.060 or huh. I want to know a little bit more about this. And they're like, kind of actually pulling

01:11:43.140 together in a spiritual collective that I thought the left was going to do. Yeah. It's been very

01:11:49.700 interesting to see the, well, yeah. I mean like, for example, like Andrew Tate's an effing Muslim.

01:11:54.660 Like I always point this out to people. I always forget that.

01:11:57.860 This dude's a Muslim and he's like the number one right wing speaker. But yeah, no, it's, it's,

01:12:02.900 it's been really interesting how it's come to resemble. Yeah. All right. Well, this has gone

01:12:09.460 longer. So we're going to have a stupidly long episode on Antifa. Now it looks like,

01:12:12.740 but I appreciate your time and your channel is again for people checking.

01:12:17.140 Yeah. Build, baby, build with Ty King. Okay, great. Uh, so named after that Brian

01:12:23.460 Kaplan book, build, baby, build or a thing. Go check it out and have an absolutely spectacular

01:12:29.540 day. Peace and love you guys. Appreciate you having me on. Anyway, I love you to death.

01:12:35.060 I love you too.

01:12:39.600 Yikes.

01:12:47.140 There's this one

01:12:58.980 video. I think it's a clown themed birthday party from your childhood. I don't know if it was yours or

01:13:04.900 miles, but everyone gets clown face paint, but your parents got a person to come and face paint

01:13:13.060 everyone. Maybe it was a friend. Everyone looks horrifying. There's this one girl who does not

01:13:19.460 have any face paint on and who's clearly terrified of clowns. And there are clowns everywhere at this

01:13:25.220 birthday party. And there's this amazing shot of her face. And someone asks her, do you want us to

01:13:32.660 paint your face? And she's like, no, without being terrible to her as I was in other videos.

01:13:38.900 No, this was not Madison, whoever she was. Sorry, Madison.

01:13:45.140 I think it's these videos show how much parenting matters because none of our kids are like problem

01:13:49.940 kids. And yet I was just apparently the worst.

01:13:54.980 There are many moments in these home videos of your childhood where you are.

01:14:00.420 Does it make you feel like you might actually be a pretty good at this mom thing?

01:14:03.940 Because that's the template you're working from.

01:14:08.180 Our kids still have their moments.

01:14:12.180 They have the capacity for it, but I've never seen them be actually mean to another kid.

01:14:17.620 Yeah, but toddlers are toddlers, you know, and kids don't like sharing toys that you can't expect

01:14:24.100 perfection from a child. And if you got it, probably something is developmentally wrong with them.

01:14:30.180 You know, perfection as defined by being a perfect gentleman. So, yeah.

01:14:35.700 All right. I'm going to get started here.

01:14:38.260 Let's do it.

Based Camp - September 24, 2024

Antifa： Logistics & Particulars + An Interview With a Former Member

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