Are State Run Dating Apps A Solution to Falling Fertility Rates？
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In this episode, we discuss the Japanese government's plans to launch a government-backed dating app, and why this is a bad idea. We discuss the dangers of swipe based dating apps and why they are bad for women and why you should not get married on dating apps.
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hello this is malcolm and simone and we are excited to be talking to you today about a topic
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of grave pronatalist interest specifically the country of japan is making a government backed
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dating app now i know very little about this topic other than that it exists and apparently
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it's a paid app which sort of seems to defeat the purpose but simone is going to tell us more
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would you like to know more or yeah so it's it's actually not live yet only a beta version has
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really been live but i'm quite intrigued by this i think it's a great idea for the government to
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launch a dating app personally you know someone's got to make this work and the way that market
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based dynamics work you're not going to see people actually get married based on dating apps as they
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are dating apps as they are meant for keeping audiences occupied they're meant for lots of
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in-app purchases so yeah this actually reminds me a lot of people so when we bemoan the fall of
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dating apps what we're typically bemoaning is not that dating apps exist they used to be quite good
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simone and i met on a dating app okay cupid was fantastic for meeting nerdy people but the way
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that dating apps worked is you would have these full profiles and you would search by like keywords in
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the profile or by matching in terms of like answering tons of questions and there were different sites
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that did this in different ways then tiktok was invented which brought in the invite of a whatever
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word i'm looking for here of swipe based dating apps the advent of swipe based dating apps and then
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all of the apps started to move to the swipe based system and originally i had thought that this was
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sort of a malevolent push right so when tinder got really big and match group moved to swipe based
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dating and then match group bought okay cupid and they moved okay cupid to swipe based dating and i
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thought they had done that in order to kill okay cupid so to understand why swipe based dating is so much
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worse than the old systems dating websites are environments in which guys are intrinsically on the back
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foot dating websites are environments where guys sell themselves to women fundamentally that's how dating
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websites work because the vast majority of dating website users it's like 80 on tinder and stuff like
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that are males right yeah well here's the problem where you can get differential advantage for males
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and not just have all of the women sort to the top 20 of males yeah it's when males are being judged on
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multiple metrics yeah all right so because you know you may not be the highest looking guy but maybe you
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have a good career or maybe you're witty or maybe you have a hobby that overlaps with this woman's
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there are multiple dimensions on which you can compete yes um so and by the way i used that dynamic on
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okay cupid as well i did not compete based on my photos even though i did have photos of myself in film
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great stormtrooper armor i competed based on these weird questions that okay cupid used to prominently
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feature in a feed so you could camp out in the questions on okay cupid and give really provocative
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and weird responses and show up in people's feed and engage them really easily so you can i was able
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to compete based on how my how hold up sporky i was i'm not saying it was great you got lots of
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high profile people i did yeah and that's the thing is is that i not being the most beautiful person in
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the world was able to still compete on that episode although there was that youtuber who was
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criticizing us recently who was like oh that guy's way out of her league you are out of my league
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but i i thought that was really funny because i'm like well i guess she did pretty well using her
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mechanism of female outreach on dating apps but hold on so the point i was getting to is that when
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you move to a swipe based dating app it intrinsically means that you are just judging people based on how
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they look which one interestingly is the thing that women care least about except for random sexual
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partners right so you are basically having the dating app replace the nightclub which we've actually
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seen in the united states nightclub attendance has been like crashing they are just used for like
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regular sex now like that is the point of of these white based dating apps but they prevent men like a
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diversity of men from really competing within this environment because they can't compete on any metric
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other than how they look and the women can't really use them for anything other than random sex
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and worse because all the women are now sorting to the same few men those men don't really invest in
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those women yeah well and both sides are developing wildly unrealistic expectations that is to say a woman
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who's a four expects that not only because she can sleep with an eight she can marry an eight but also a man
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who's an eight just gets so flooded with women that he's just never going to ever want to marry
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even an eight or nine or ten san francisco and this woman was like yeah i mean it's a huge problem to
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find a guy who's not polyamorous who's like in my league and i'm here thinking i'm like well did you
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consider that the men who are polyamorous are out of your league and that like she thinks like well i just
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need a guy who's like this guy who's sleeping with me but polyamorous but who's not polyamorous like it's just
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one weird court it's like no this guy is sharing like 10 women like he will clearly date below his league
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because of that you shouldn't be benchmarking yourself on the polyamorous guys you could get to sleep with
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but it's worse than that it's worse than that because i think that this shift to image-based uh signaling
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is now creating this proliferation of filters that is completely like you i have no idea honestly what people
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look like online anymore because they're they're such heavy filter use that they all look incredible
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and i'll never forget like by mistake on an app once i turned a filter on my own face and oh my god like i
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could look genuinely okay it's it is it is astounding you are puritan hot yeah husband goggles there is
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like i'm now realizing that all these people online that are so beautiful i can now kind of tell all the
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filters they're using and i think this is just creating this rampant dishonesty too so i think this is another
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thing is that when any relationship that you could have is immediately beginning with some level of
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disappointment because now you're seeing the person without the filters for the first time so your first
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in-person impression of them is a letdown oh yeah and what people say online like when people are like
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oh you know you guys are mid or whatever it's like bro like i have i have been in public like we just
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got out of the airport like it is rare walking through an entire airport multiple times we're
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not overweight i mean that at least gives us a slight bump up even being sorted for by you know economic
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status i'm like no you you you have been distorted in what attractive is because you assume that like
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subconsciously your social environment is the tv shows you watch and then in instagram and social media
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where i'm instagram and social media which isn't the real world you want to learn how real people
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look go to an airport and walk around okay that's what i don't know airports also select for people
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who can afford no i'm yeah but i'm i'm using airport because it's even a selected environment for
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wealthier people but hold on i gotta get to the secret information i actually have access to here i
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actually was was mentioning that i had thought that match grip had intentionally destroyed ok
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cupid at a party once and i thought that's what they did yeah best selling book on relationships
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blah blah blah and i got scolded because actually at that party was the person at ok cupid who made
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the decision to do the switch did you punch him in the face i mean no everybody don't believe in
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like i was spreading misinformation and i didn't know what i was talking about because and he said and
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i i was wrong clearly he's like no it's what the users wanted we could see it in the dad i mean
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yeah it leads to more engagement let's be clear as to what he's really saying when he says that
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when they switch to swipe based systems because keep in mind the majority of users are men
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they are getting more user interaction and more regular user interaction the guy you know he turned
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out to have been the guy who made this decision and the reason he gave for making the decision was the
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data so what they were really finding in this data was just that they could make the men their
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primary audience more addicted yeah and that is why all of the apps have made this change
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so much so i thought that in a recent scott alexander grant thing or not recent this was a few years
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ago one of the proposals that like a non-profit should do is to remake the old ok cupid oh i remember
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that yeah actually optimize around finding a partner who you want to marry instead of just getting
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people addicted to the platform yeah so japan has the opportunity to do something like that here
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yeah and it's not economically incentive it's not it's not trying to keep people on an app it's not
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so i think this idea of a government-backed dating app fantastic and i've already seen people
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tweeting about this oh it's dystopian oh can you believe you know governments are forcing people
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to get married no they're not okay so whenever somebody like suggests marriage to someone they're
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like you're forcing me you're forcing me it's like oh no i honestly malcolm i think it's a fetish thing
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there was also this i think there's a netherlands a bunch of women dressed up in those handmaid's
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tail like bonnet red cape dress things they're like oh because they had some like pro they were
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discussing pronatalist policies and this is just like policies to help parents even this is not like
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we're going to take away female reproductive rights it was just like you know this is the netherlands
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okay this is not china okay then and and they show up in force wearing the handmaid's tail i think
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they just wanted to cosplay at it as it i think they all have some our fantasies going on sexually
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okay okay maybe but here's what i think is going on i think that when you even suggest the idea that
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they should do something that they know they need to do it's a bit like or that they would be better
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off doing when you tell a fat person you know you probably shouldn't eat that they like the anger
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that you're gonna get is like really disproportional to what you just said even though it would be in
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their best interest if they did that because they know that they shouldn't eat that these women know
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that they would be happier if they found contented long-term partners who cared about them and if they
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had kids but they haven't made the sacrifices in the same way that you know the fat person reaching
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for the donut is unwilling to make the sacrifices and that uh dissonance cognitive dissonance causes
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them to say and you know fat people will do this you're telling me i need to lose weight you're
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trying to genocide fat people and it's like no i just said that maybe you should you want to get
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rid of all people like me and they immediately go to these places because it's the only way that they
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can logically because they don't want to think like internally wow i'm being super illogical and
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insane right now right they want to believe that they're being the good guy logical so they take this
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position where it is a an attack to even mention like hey you know if you do think you can have
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kids it would be useful to you know civilization if you did we're not pressuring you we're just
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letting you know it's on the table and that you're not they wouldn't need to wear those costumes
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not doing it they wouldn't you might as well be holding them to the floor with a gun against their
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head they're like it's fascism it's fascism i think there's something going on there but so
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anyway there are some spicy things uh weigh in on this yeah do do these people have a fetish like
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simone says which they totally do because otherwise they wouldn't cosplay as people
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or quick note here before you go further we never edit or censor the comments if ever the comments are
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weirdly turned off or you see things being deleted that is youtube doing it automatically
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we one it goes against our philosophical beliefs to do that we do not have time for that we don't have
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time for that so we're a small channel like we're editing videos every day you think i also have
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time to like be editing the comment section we have day jobs so anyway spicy things about the app
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which i actually think are fantastic and no these aren't coercive things they're just cool policies so
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users oh by the way for those who want to read more about this i'm looking at japan today.com
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the article's called tokyo government to launch dating app to boost birth rate so
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users will be required to submit documentation proving they are legally single and sign a letter
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stating that they are willing to get married i think that's great setting like a standard there
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you're willing to get married actually i don't know if you're familiar with these there's like
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subreddits tied to this like are we dating the same guy yeah and like manhattan remember i said that
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all the women are matching to the same guys totally the really interesting thing that this is creating
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quote-unquote legally single category means that they are creating a sub marriage threshold of
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relationship commitment or an individual is registering with the government that they are
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dating somebody else so no i think i think they're just saying they're not married no no no i think it
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means they're not dating someone else i think it's a sub category that they're creating here which is
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actually a really powerful thing to do because it helps pipeline people to engagement much faster
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to have this incremental stage between we used to have this when i was younger it's called being
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facebook official yeah yeah yeah yeah but it was hard to cheat on someone if you were facebook
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official because people didn't easily find that another facebook isn't like the primary social platform
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when people can make excuses about why they don't have one facebook official doesn't exist anymore which
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made it very hard to cheat during the period where facebook was that common so continue because you're in
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a relationship with someone on facebook yes i think that's absolutely brilliant also stating one's
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income is common on japanese dating apps but tokyo which is this is the the office it's announcing this
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dating app will require a tax certificate slip to prove the annual salary i also think that that's
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absolutely brilliant that if you are if you want to front about something you actually have to provide
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receipts like literal receipts um because another thing that you see happening on dating apps a lot
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is people and of course social media in general people signal wealth and especially in the united states
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they signal it and they're actually in massive amounts of debt it's not wealth at all like you you
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think that you are possibly dating into maybe even marrying into financial security
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and you in the end are not i did flex on the new app to show that you actually have a lot of wealth
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but to not live the lifestyle of a like not dress super wealthy yeah you know you're dating somebody
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with financial security which is hot or somebody who's been wasting all their money on those trading
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card games that they have in japan so you know one or the other yeah 100 so this is actually the
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first app that that the government has organized but also they have been organizing or municipalities
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within tokyo at least have been organizing matchmaking events for a while now which is
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really interesting and i am dying maybe in the future we can do an episode yeah sort of like
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different so singapore has had a matchmaking program for a while and in china you can go to the parks in
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china yeah but that's parents that's parents self-organizing which is great parents are a major
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under discussed factor in matchmaking and they used to play historically a huge role in matchmaking
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yeah but i think most of these parents i don't think that many from what i've heard that many
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actual relationships don't come out yeah i think they just go to there to complain or brag honestly
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yeah so your your hypothetical match with my son isn't good enough you know your hypothetical match
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with my daughter isn't good enough and then they find one that's good enough and the kid's like
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what are you doing what sorry you said what are you doing i no no the i was talking about the
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parents not you yeah sorry you confused me i was like i don't i don't know so so the uh one thing i
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found interesting about the dating app was how little they had invested in it it did not sound
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like enough to make a functional app yeah well and the other thing is and this is actually one of the
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reasons that they made for just that they presented justifying the app's creation whereas i feel like
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it's actually a reason to be skeptical that this should be made at all the official said quote we
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learned that 70 percent of people who want to get married aren't actively joining events or apps to
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look for a partner unquote and then they they continued we want to give them a gentle push to find one
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but that isn't like creating an app for which there may be don't demand isn't going to solve the
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problem i do think that the fact that this app exists and has some controls in it and it's not
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just the controls i mentioned also an interview will be required to confirm everyone's identity as
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part of the registration process which is pretty cool because i mean you're not going to have fake
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people or people just kind of you know i don't know what's the word tourists you won't have tourists
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on the app as much you can't it appears use filters and stuff right you know it doesn't state that and
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i'm a little bit concerned about that because then you know we still have that problem but it sounds
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like the kind of app where this would not be permitted although it would be terrible if everyone
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had just like a government id photo dating half photo that would be slightly suboptimal but yeah i am
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a little skeptical that people will use this and i think that's one of the biggest problems but i
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i also remember when you and i were in the period of dating okcupid was kind of the place to go to meet
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interesting people tinder and some other apps are the place to go if you wanted sex and then if you
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actually wanted to get married you would go on match.com and i do think that having a place to
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go where it's kind of at least at the time socially understood that if you're there you're looking to
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close a deal it would be really helpful and i remember when i was dating with peers and we were
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doing our whole competitive dating ring in the office all of us were on okcupid except for one
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and she immediately found a very well-matched partner they were engaged within a couple of months and
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then they got married just like that and it was so weird to see because no one else was really
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thinking about getting married but both of them were in their late 20s and they were just like
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ready to close the deal and and i actually at the time there were even older people i knew like in
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their early 40s who also went on match were very like brass tacks like this is what i'm looking for
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this is what i'm not looking for got married just like that and it'd be really cool if this app could
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sort of well but here's the thing about different dating apps right now in the current environment is
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that you're always going to have different social sort of circles that become self-sustaining within
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different apps because you need like a certain amount of people of a certain sociological and
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social profile to be on an app and then it becomes like the cluster you go to for that sort of person
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oh yeah it's gonna actually differ between cities you know it's some cities like okcupid might not be
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quite as nerdy as other cities yeah but when we did it like okcupid was like the nerd like it was the
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nerd app um yeah and that's why i was on it i wanted to meet a nerdy wife like i was like okay
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that doesn't seem to be as much of a thing anymore this disintermediation although i've been listening
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to a lot of you know lgbt youtubers talk about dating in the current environment and one of the
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things i found really interesting is lesbians trying to find apps where you don't have tons of
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really aggressive trans women uh because you know obviously these women used to date as men
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and so they're used to being one you know really aggressive on apps the way men are and lesbians
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on apps are apparently very similar to women on normal dating apps which is just not you know
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outreaching that much yeah so where do they go if you join an app that doesn't filter against that
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and you can you know get in so much trouble for for even requesting like i only want to i only want
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to date you know cis lesbians right so because you can't you can't ask that like the apps will not
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allow you to filter this even lesbian only apps like which is so funny because on other apps well
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pretty much on every app you as a woman or man but typically women you can be like well i'm not
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going to date anyone who's below six feet and male right so you can discriminate against height you
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can discriminate against so many other factors age but you cannot discriminate against even even
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ethnicity on a lot of these apps but not against you you know cis or trans which is a pretty big
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morphological different you know yeah i would say it's probably bigger than height a little bit
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i've heard the most common is that they actually find facebook dating to be the a place with the
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wait is is there a dating app on facebook apparently there is so there's like facebook marketplace and
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there's facebook dating yeah now see i've heard that it's linkedin linkedin is the place where at
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least like higher earners go to date um i've heard that as well yeah well it is something because you're
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gonna get higher agency people there that actually like know what they want and reach out and when we
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know couples and parents who met on twitter on twitter yeah oh yeah yeah i mean it's a hard place to
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meet but no i think it's it's more common i mean i don't know i don't know anyone personally who
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married based on linkedin only dated but i do know people who married based on twitter
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that's something yeah yeah but but see again twitter is a place where you can compete based on image
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based on like prestige you know follower count based on just how clever and witty your ideas are
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and the people that we that we know i'm thinking of one couple especially who like even now have a kid
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together is it public that you can say this or i don't know if they were public about meeting there
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but they don't have a ton of followers like they just were intellectually very engaged oh yeah
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yeah yeah that is interesting yeah intellectually they're very much like in the same twitter circle
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yeah um yeah that makes a lot of sense so if you were to design a dating app as a government
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what would you do i would first you have to have a lot of pictures because only with a lot of pictures
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can you determine what somebody really looks like so you want like 30 or 40 pictures minimum
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oh oh oh oh but i have an idea is the photos have to come from your personal network none of them can
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come from you that would be incredibly hard to source that's i don't know if they just you know like
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letters of recommendation for college applications come from third parties so 30 to 40 photos and which
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photo gets shown to people is random among those photos so you can't have like the your good side photo
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yeah um then you also need a long form profile that talks about a lot of stuff so that you
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the primary thing you're putting forwards is your sort of bio maybe even a swipe based system but the
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swipes show individual portions of somebody's profile not their picture oh okay so people are not
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it photos are not the first and foremost thing but there are tons of photos would you gate access to
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photos until after people send a message in a kind of love is blind kind of thing no but what i would
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do is i would create hidden categories based on either ia or human so we do ratings of everyone
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based on their attractiveness to create leagues kind of like keeper ai does where they actually
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okay cupid used to do this as well and so you don't remember you could get your league rated
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i don't remember league ratings but i do remember that it would it would tell you if you were hot
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right yeah how many outreaches you got but i think just create leagues and then have people only be
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sorting within their league in terms of the the the text chunks that they're choosing to swipe or not
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swipe and then you also need a system where if they say they're dating somebody there's some sort of a
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cost to that like they can't go back on the app for a year or something like that or half a year you
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know well but then people are just gonna lie no no the idea is is that dating somebody like going to
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this i am in a relationship stage is an actual commitment
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with a cost so you can't get back on the app okay we'll say at least a quarter maybe not half a year
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a quarter of a year okay after you break up before you can get back on the app again so you can't just
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tell somebody oh yeah i will date you officially register with the app and then break up a week later
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you know this you you need switching costs that's one of the core problems in our society right now
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is low switching costs yeah i agree that you have to create higher switching costs i yeah i'm not
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exactly sure how to design that i make on this is a lot of people you know you're talking about like
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using linkedin using twitter etc people like i'll just meet my partner naturally right like i hear this
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all the time yeah uh you know they're like like people used to people used to and it's like do you go out
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to a bar every day of the week and they're like no and i'm like that's how people used to meet like
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they used to meet no they used to meet in high school that was kind of the in high school you
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meet in college but you were meeting in environments where you were regularly socializing yeah people who
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are not going to clubs or bars or other social events continue to say i will meet someone in the old
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way without remembering that the old way was contingent on them going out there and actively
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socializing yeah yeah and i think that that's really important to elevate which is to say you
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like a partner is not just going to come to you by like osmosis okay i know it happens to some people
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right in the same way you know it reminds me of somebody like saying i'm not going to apply to jobs
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i'll just like get one randomly right i'll wait till the job comes to me and i'm like why would
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you think that would work and they're like well my buddy brandon you know his dad got him a connection
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or something and i'm like yeah but you must understand that's an incredibly rare phenomenon
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but you you if you actually want to end up with a job you need to start applying and they're like but i
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really hate rejection really when they say no or don't follow up or something awkward happens in an
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interview and i'm like well now of course men these days are also dealing with russian roulette in
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terms of women who either you know can get themselves pregnant and then force them to pay
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child support by like you know you got to card those used condoms or they can just randomly accuse
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him of grape and it's a very tough environment to be a guy but in a way you know the genetic
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bottlenecks our species are facing have become more intense the question i have for you men out
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there is can you weather this bottleneck or will you be part of the faction that gets churned by it
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because at the end of the day we can't do that much about this particular bottleneck we're going
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through the species all we can do is try to get through it and then raise a better generation for
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the next next iteration of society and that's what we're doing with our kids we arrange marriage plans
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and all that weirdness so yeah i think it's in the right place it would be terrible if it turns out
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to just be a swipe based app i'd be very disappointed in them it doesn't say when i said it didn't seem
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like they raised much money if i remember correctly it's like 1.5 million usd was raised to build this
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app and i'm like that is not i don't know i mean if you're lean about it yeah well i yeah if you're
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lean not exactly the problem is is that government things always cost more money and are always
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jankier than public sector private sector things yeah maybe not in japan i mean you know there are
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some some governments where it is genuinely impressive what their online services are like
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and i would you know japan is japan let's not forget that okay you know you go to the airport and anime
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girls are everywhere greeting you to the nation right oh yeah super cute little mascots it's wonderful
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right so if anyone can do it hopefully japan can but i'm keen to see how it plays out and i
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hope it works and it's great i just wanted you to to learn about the fun elements of it
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well i love our little date talking and i have so much fun being with you same i love you so much
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i'm glad we met when okcupid was cool last chopper out of nom malcolm yeah all the things in my life i get
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all this hatred online and i'm like well you know i suppose this is not what i deserve but it's for
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having such a a good life at home you know every day i owe it to our reality to the future police
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whatever term i want to say to deal with all of this because somebody has to be saying the things
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that we're saying somebody has to be getting canceled in the way that we're getting canceled
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or yeah or civilization is is hurtling towards a cliff right now and nobody nobody has a
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since the steering wheel to turn it so you know we're just trying to give like the those smart
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enough in society a really cool like base jumping parachute so instead of just completely crashing
00:28:51.780
they can look in a badass way like saving themselves last minute i think it can happen some people
00:28:56.760
they're getting the parachute man i feel like you and the life that you have given me being this
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amazing wipe are just such an enormous reward that i still haven't earned no that's really romantic
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i i want to point out that it's also a big big thing for people who are still on dating apps to remember
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that you should not try to find someone who's perfect out of the box and that when malcolm found me
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and he's very happy look he's just said he was really happy he's totally not a hostage i promise
00:29:27.400
but that he married below his league and he created the life that he wanted and if you want to create
00:29:36.320
your own happiness you have to fight for it tooth and nail you have to build it your fucking self
00:29:43.340
it's just it's like with having friends you're not gonna have friends unless you organize everything
00:29:47.560
you host the dinners you invite everyone you remind them all who think oh i'll reach x threshold
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and then i'll go find a partner yeah no no you're gonna have to brute force this it's gonna suck it's
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not gonna be fun just do it like how much do you should i value attractiveness and i'm like bro
00:30:06.280
attractiveness when you bank in attractiveness you are trading something else because you can get
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higher quality so if you go down in attractiveness you know you can get higher iq higher diligence
00:30:17.040
higher income higher mental stability because you know your value to those women is higher than the
00:30:22.500
men they would normally get whatever your state is so people forget that all of these are variables
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you're trading for other variables yeah exactly so thanks for choosing your uggo wife that's apparently
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what the internet has decided recently which i'm very surprised about it's okay as long as you
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can tolerate me without vomiting i'll take it i love you so much i love you too have a good one
00:30:45.880
and you can stop and comment and oh no no i'm on the wrong side sir i edit what's it called it
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manifest we got more of the how fucking dare you have simone and malcolm on the wrong side do you
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understand how this is even in person now we need to be on the right side when we're talking no no no
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no just in the podcast but that you know a couple of times recently we've we got we got a ton of was
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make more tracks make more tracks and we were surprised like every single person who came up
00:31:18.780
to us was like why did you you need to keep doing that yeah so we'll get back to it all right you want
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to bring us in bring us in with what i don't the intro you hate my intros okay yes i'll do an intro
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okay did she just throw up everywhere no she just like every she extruded something very stinky let's
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keep going it's all right it's fine you know what life life is life is poop i'll let you go get the
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no poop is life let's keep going okay so the point i was going to make was that i actually was was
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mentioning that i had thought that match grip had intentionally destroyed and i believe it's because
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you really no keep going keep going keep going it's fine you
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it's okay simone we've got 20 minutes left of this this is not a good idea no no no okay just give
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me a second sorry it's just it's good that i waited the first time because more came out
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you little troublemaker how i love you but you poop like it's 1999