Based Camp - Are We Headed Towards A Permanent Gendered Political Divide？

00:00:00.000 What if we saw men and women begin to cluster within two parties instead of this urban-rural divide being the primary differentiator between the parties?

00:00:07.980 So here I'm going to put up a chart where you see you have a huge explosion of difference in South Korea, a smaller one in the United States, a larger one in Germany, and a large one in the UK as well.

00:00:22.460 Would you like to know more?

00:00:23.840 Hello, Malcolm.

00:00:24.700 We are actually here, not just to order Indian food because we're being indulgent and weak.

00:00:29.400 Like, did you release the order yet?

00:00:32.280 I did. It's ordered. It's coming.

00:00:33.640 Okay, well, we are here to discuss a political theory I have had for a while.

00:00:38.780 And it's weird because actually, like, I'm surprised we haven't seen this happen more.

00:00:44.080 And now we're really beginning to see it play out in politics.

00:00:47.960 And I don't, like, it's one of the theories where I was like, I'm surprised more people didn't have this theory or didn't think this was going to happen.

00:00:54.520 And Simone pointed out that during women's suffrage, actually, a lot of people did expect this to happen. 0.85

00:01:00.440 I just need to go back to those old articles before ideas like this were banned from the general population.

00:01:06.540 So we need to set a few stages here.

00:01:10.560 Okay.

00:01:11.780 Men and women are psychologically different from each other. 0.55

00:01:15.380 On average.

00:01:15.880 They see the world different from each other.

00:01:17.120 On average.

00:01:17.720 Not every man and every woman, right? 0.94

00:01:19.800 But on average, they're different.

00:01:21.200 Necessary throat clearing complete.

00:01:23.260 Right.

00:01:24.340 And if you look at, well, I mean, it's, you know, and I mentioned this.

00:01:27.540 I often get sad when I think about, like, Neanderthals going extinct.

00:01:30.500 How cool would it be if, like, another type of human lived on this world that we could commune with and learn from and see the world differently from their perspective?

00:01:39.640 Because they'd almost certainly have, like, systemic psychological differences from us.

00:01:42.920 And I'm like, but we do.

00:01:45.520 And, like, even better than that, with this male-female thing, you get to, like, make out with them and you get to choose one as, like, your primary partner for life.

00:01:56.420 No, it works well, right?

00:01:58.320 But there are sustained psychological differences between men and women.

00:02:02.280 Which people, I think, you know, the left doesn't want to, it doesn't want to talk about it, it doesn't want to admit it, because they have this belief that all humans are the same, all humans are exactly psychologically the same, all humans have exactly the same proficiencies, and yet somehow diversity matters.

00:02:21.400 Diversity doesn't matter if we're not different. 0.80

00:02:24.400 Diversity is a thing of value because we are different, you knobs.

00:02:28.880 What you actually mean is you are incapable of dealing with a world in which genuine diversity exists.

00:02:35.180 And this is something we see when leftists start shrieking, when they're like, but if you genetically select your kids for IQ, what if your kids are smarter than the general population?

00:02:44.280 And it's like, the world isn't hurt because some smarter people exist.

00:02:48.220 Are we worse off for Einstein?

00:02:50.460 Are we worse off for X smart person?

00:02:52.980 Well, and as Johnny Anomaly argues in the book, Future Humans, higher IQ is pretty well documented to be associated with pro-sociality, you know, plus, you know, a better economy, all these other good things. 0.97

00:03:05.540 So basically, if you are an incredibly dumb person, you want to live where there are smart people. 0.97

00:03:10.760 It doesn't matter. 1.00

00:03:11.420 But the point being is it's an incredibly sociopathic thing to say.

00:03:17.500 And what they really mean by saying that is because the way that their party and their ideology has been able to justify and engage with diversity is through pretending that diversity doesn't actually exist.

00:03:31.880 When they recognize that through things like genetic selection, human diversity may come to exist, they psychologically are incapable of dealing with that.

00:03:41.600 And as such, their only action is to maintain human genetic purity and prevent people like us from breeding because they don't like that we pollute the human gene pool with science.

00:03:52.940 They don't like my little pencil neck and our glasses.

00:03:56.120 It's so funny when people like in articles that make fun of us or in like chat threads that make or whatever, like Reddit threads that make fun of us for being eugenicists.

00:04:04.180 You know, they accuse us of that, even though they're totally wrong.

00:04:06.560 Then they like proceed to be like in there.

00:04:09.360 They're nearsighted.

00:04:10.800 They wear thick glasses.

00:04:13.540 Like what a eugenics insult, though, right? 1.00

00:04:16.560 It shows they are the eugenicists.

00:04:20.160 It really does have inclination.

00:04:22.320 Yeah, it's not a good look.

00:04:24.440 Whereas we're excited when anyone, you know, who wants to have kids and is socially responsible is having kids, right?

00:04:31.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:32.240 But anyway, so I had this theory where I was thinking where it's like, okay, so and this is true, men and women vote differently, right?

00:04:40.340 They have different views on subjects and they relate to political subjects in different ways.

00:04:44.560 That men and women would drift towards sort of their own political parties and that the primary political divide in the world would become a male-female divide rather than a party or inclination divide.

00:05:00.080 And so, you know, historically, if you look at the United States, what the political divide had been up until recently was an urban-rural divide, urban populations versus rural populations.

00:05:11.980 And this makes a lot of sense.

00:05:13.440 You know, the urban populations were the Democrats and the rural populations were the Republicans.

00:05:17.460 And as the Democrats became more of a monoculture, like as the city centers began to be eaten by the mimetic virus, which is sort of eating the world and the only place where you could have diversity anymore was within rural population centers, the Republicans became the party of diversity and the Democrats became the party of conformity.

00:05:35.440 Now, of course, they superficially need to pretend like they care about diversity because they want diversity of victims for the virus.

00:05:41.320 They don't care what you look like or what your background is or what your moral fortitude is.

00:05:47.960 If they can convert you, they'll take you. 0.99

00:05:49.900 And that's what they mean by diversity.

00:05:51.660 But they don't actually tolerate any sort of diversity of ideologies or cultural perspectives outside of in the most token of contexts.

00:06:00.740 And I could go deeper.

00:06:02.080 Well, it's extremely inclusive and also conformist.

00:06:07.420 It's inclusive and conformist.

00:06:09.700 Yes.

00:06:10.200 So that's what it means to have a diversity of victims.

00:06:12.740 It's inclusive and conformist.

00:06:13.920 They will take anyone.

00:06:15.140 But once you join, you cannot ideological differ on any meaningful point.

00:06:19.140 You can't differ on what you think about human sexuality.

00:06:21.160 You can't differ on what you think about gender.

00:06:22.700 You can't differ on what you think about a relation to the environment.

00:06:25.060 You can't differ on what you think about morality.

00:06:27.040 You can't differ on what you think about the future of our species should be.

00:06:29.700 So there's just a really tight constraint on the cultural practices here.

00:06:34.040 You can wear your little funny hat and say that you're from a culturally different – you can't even say that humans are different from each other.

00:06:41.100 You can't differ on that point.

00:06:42.360 God, no.

00:06:43.100 Whereas the diversity of rural cultures, they genuinely do have a diversity of belief systems.

00:06:49.180 But anyway, so I was like, well, what if we saw men and women begin to cluster within two parties instead of this urban-rural divide being the primary differentiator between the parties?

00:06:59.300 And now I think that that's what we're seeing, and we're seeing it more and more these last few years.

00:07:04.120 Why it's happened these last few years, I don't know.

00:07:06.000 But I'm going to put a graph on the screen.

00:07:07.420 It appears to be tied directly to modern sort of potentially demographic collapse or the internet.

00:07:17.540 And we can hypothesize this to – or really a bit after the proliferation of mobile phones.

00:07:22.300 So here I'm going to put up a chart where you see you have a huge explosion of difference in South Korea, a smaller one in the United States, a larger one in Germany, and a large one in the UK as well.

00:07:36.260 So let's just talk about what we're seeing in these different graphs.

00:07:38.300 So in South Korea, you see men going significantly more conservative starting around 2015 and then just exploding in the conservative direction.

00:07:52.260 Yeah, so the young men in South Korea specifically prefer the conservative opposition People Power Party, and the young women of South Korea are polarizing into the liberal Democratic Party.

00:08:05.100 So it's also the same.

00:08:06.660 It's conservative versus liberal in terms of mindset.

00:08:10.140 Yeah.

00:08:10.540 Well, and there's something that you see in most of these graphs as well, particularly in the U.S. graph, is that if you go to the 1980s, it was actually women who were more likely to be conservative and men who were more likely to be progressive.

00:08:23.300 But isn't that when the conservative party was more conformist?

00:08:26.440 Exactly.

00:08:26.840 That's what you're really seeing here is a conformist versus anti-conformist tendency, whereas this is when the satanic panic was happening.

00:08:34.240 This is when the conservative party was really controlled by panicky housewives who were afraid that their kids were listening to too much rock and roll.

00:08:42.160 And, of course, that appeals to the same conservative, whatever you saw, lower C conservative intuition that women have, which is that they need to control what everyone else is thinking and doing. 1.00

00:08:54.620 And so in the U.S., what you see, which is really interesting, is that after you have this switch in parties, which happened in the 80s, men have actually stayed about the same in their political beliefs, whereas women have gone far, far, far to the left.

00:09:07.420 And this really started around 2010.

00:09:11.620 So you're saying women are becoming more extreme, men are not. 0.93

00:09:14.600 Men are not in the U.S. 1.00

00:09:16.120 The same is true in Germany.

00:09:17.280 Do you think the same is true in – yeah, I guess in South Korea is where you're getting the four-nose movement.

00:09:20.940 No, no, no.

00:09:21.540 The opposite happened in South Korea.

00:09:23.220 Yes, women are becoming slightly more extreme in South Korea, but it's really mostly men who are becoming more extreme in South Korea.

00:09:28.600 In what way are men becoming more extreme in South Korea?

00:09:30.680 Because most people just talk about the four-nose movement, which is all – it's a women thing. 1.00

00:09:34.180 It's not – it's like –

00:09:34.960 Well, I think that's why women don't want to marry these men anymore, because they all expect women to have these really conservative attitudes. 0.52

00:09:40.960 But yeah, no, it is men who have gone off the deep end in South Korea.

00:09:44.720 Women have gone off the deep end in the U.S. 1.00

00:09:46.480 In Germany, it's women who have gone off the deep end. 1.00

00:09:48.760 And in the U.K., a very interesting phenomenon happened that you might be surprised about.

00:09:54.120 Men and women actually tracked with women being more conservative until around 2010.

00:10:00.860 Whoa.

00:10:01.600 So percent.

00:10:02.200 Then both men and women flew way more progressive, with women just going further than men.

00:10:12.560 Okay.

00:10:13.840 Huh.

00:10:16.520 So interesting, right?

00:10:17.840 Like, this is not what I expected to see, but it does make sense. 0.97

00:10:21.900 So if you have, like, this two-species world, basically, men are for Mars, men are for Venus, that's the way you explain it to, like, a dumb person.

00:10:30.340 With me, I'm like, men are Neanderthals, women are Homo sapiens.

00:10:33.620 Like, two different, like, biological perspectives on realities.

00:10:37.300 It makes sense when you – I think it's really the internet that caused this.

00:10:41.640 When you have the internet and people are able to find common cause, especially – actually, no, I'm going to take it back.

00:10:47.600 It's not the internet that caused this.

00:10:48.800 You know what I think caused this?

00:10:50.060 Hmm.

00:10:50.560 The breakdown of relationship structure.

00:10:54.020 I think what historically caused men and women to converge on a similar political ideology is that most men and women were married.

00:11:03.080 Oh, so that is to say that they aligned over something bigger than just themselves and therefore found common ground?

00:11:09.000 Yeah, not only that, but you had these two different iterations of humanity, but they were always living in these partnerships with each other.

00:11:16.820 And so there was some motivation to learn how the other side thought and to learn the other side's value system and to be tempered by that other side.

00:11:24.260 I mean, I think a lot of Red Pillars, they come to our podcast and they're like, wow, he looks so cut in the way he relates to ideas.

00:11:30.400 And it's like, no, I just understand that there's value in multiple perspectives and my wife brings me value in helping me see a more holistic picture of the world.

00:11:40.180 Well, but I think we should also discuss why the progressive ideology has become so dominant when in the past a – you know, like masculine leadership has been dominant.

00:11:52.360 And I think the problem is that now governing structures are bureaucratic in nature.

00:11:59.920 Like that is just how governments work.

00:12:01.800 That's how they're set up.

00:12:03.040 And women perform better in bureaucracies. 1.00

00:12:06.560 Like that's my theory, at least.

00:12:08.080 Do you think that there's something else going on here?

00:12:10.040 Like why is the female-dominated party? 1.00

00:12:14.140 And why would conformism, which you'd think wouldn't be as competitive,

00:12:17.440 you'd think it would lead to ossification and stagnation and, you know, losing a competitive edge?

00:12:24.640 Why?

00:12:26.880 Ah, so this is interesting.

00:12:28.720 And we had prepped about this this morning.

00:12:30.260 Why is it the female side has become more dominant than the male side?

00:12:34.320 So I think that there's sort of three overlapping factors here.

00:12:38.140 I think probably the most important factor is not the female over competition within bureaucratic environments, 1.00

00:12:43.980 but that females are the sexual gatekeepers of our species and that a lot of men – 0.97

00:12:48.700 when I see men who are progressives, they really appear to be largely pretending for access to sex. 0.97

00:12:54.160 That's like – not all, but especially the most progressive men, like the white nighty men, 0.85

00:12:59.100 they don't appear to actually hold these views.

00:13:01.200 It appears to be what do I need to say and do to get access to women. 1.00

00:13:04.660 And we have talked about this in our studies, whereas people point out,

00:13:08.700 if you're looking at the amounts of grapes that are reported by women who are in progressive communities,

00:13:16.740 like college campuses and stuff like that,

00:13:19.120 they are higher than in, like, basically lawless sub-Saharan African countries.

00:13:25.340 Like, the amount of grapes you see in these communities seem almost impossibly high to people.

00:13:31.380 They're like, these are higher than regions where people are earning on average yearly less than $5,000 USD per year.

00:13:37.320 Like, and where there is not a sustained police population or something like that,

00:13:41.300 how is that possible?

00:13:43.160 And so they discount them.

00:13:44.560 They say the women are over-reporting these.

00:13:46.720 I do not believe women are over-reporting these.

00:13:49.080 I believe from what I've seen,

00:13:51.460 when women enter these communities that are extremely pro-left,

00:13:56.220 I think that it disproportionately attacks grapist men.

00:14:01.480 And it makes a lot of sense when you think about it. 0.82

00:14:04.020 Like, if a man is just a complete sociopath,

00:14:06.480 and if you do have this differentiation between the way men and women view the world,

00:14:10.460 the men with integrity are going to say,

00:14:12.260 even if it loses them access to sexual partners,

00:14:14.580 what they really think, 0.94

00:14:15.940 whereas the sociopaths and the narcissists 0.84

00:14:18.120 are going to say whatever they need to say to gain access to sexual resources. 0.95

00:14:23.020 And so women in these communities are having much more unconsensual sex because of this, 1.00

00:14:29.100 because they don't understand what they have done where they have said,

00:14:32.060 we will not allow any man into our community who doesn't answer yes to these questions.

00:14:36.440 But the only men answering yes to these questions are the ones who are lying.

00:14:39.960 And so they have basically created a shooting fish in a barrel situation.

00:14:44.940 And it's really horrifying.

00:14:47.160 And this is something I'd be really scared about with my daughters,

00:14:49.480 is letting them go into these communities,

00:14:51.880 because I think that they are actually pretty likely to be graped within these communities.

00:14:55.180 It reminds me, I mean, and there is this delusion within these communities around the actual risk.

00:15:01.320 I mean, if you remember when the Israeli-Palestinian war broke out,

00:15:04.260 a lot of these protests were predominantly female, 0.97

00:15:07.620 where they were protesting, like, let there be peace, let's promote the people of Gaza.

00:15:11.740 And they were all along the Gaza border, right?

00:15:14.160 There was, I think, at least one.

00:15:15.820 I think there was more than one of these big, like, peace concerts

00:15:19.120 where you had all of this horrible stuff happen.

00:15:22.720 But you're like, why would they go there?

00:15:24.940 Like, why would they think this is a good idea?

00:15:27.860 And it is because there is this, like, delusion field and conformity enforcement

00:15:33.600 within this female side of things. 0.95

00:15:36.700 There is much less desire to seek what is true,

00:15:39.820 and much more desire for conformity, regardless if this is true or that is true.

00:15:46.220 And then it leads to higher amounts of these negative things happening within these communities.

00:15:50.240 So I think that that's one thing, right, is sexual access. 0.97

00:15:52.480 And they're able to use sexual access to pull out all the sociopathic men and all the narcissistic men. 0.93

00:15:57.420 And just, you know, like, this is generally what I think. 0.94

00:15:59.040 When I see a man who is a far progressive, I generally think he must be a sociopath or a narcissist.

00:16:03.920 Some level of, like, dark pride personality traits there.

00:16:07.040 Then the other thing that you see is this higher performance within bureaucratic organizations.

00:16:13.300 I think that's another thing that leads to it.

00:16:14.880 And the final thing is that I think that before this, the parties really were genuinely divided into an urban optimization function

00:16:21.140 and a rural optimization function for these different economic sectors within our country.

00:16:25.780 I mean, historically, whenever you've had two different economic sectors in that country,

00:16:29.080 that's where the parties have sort of coagulated.

00:16:32.500 And the urban, the previous urban faction, of course, is going to have more power than the rural faction.

00:16:38.080 And, of course, it's going to be more conformist than the rural faction because an individual who isn't conformist is going to leave urban population centers.

00:16:46.320 Do you have additional thoughts on this?

00:16:48.180 Or I remember you had some really piffy thing that you said this morning.

00:16:52.800 I was incredibly impressed.

00:16:54.600 I was like, oh, what a fun thing to say.

00:16:57.140 Yeah, I see my notes from this morning's conversation, but I don't see.

00:17:01.140 I'm sorry.

00:17:02.000 Oh, wow.

00:17:03.760 You are always so entertaining when we're having these pre-whatever talks, and now our audience doesn't get to hear your brilliance.

00:17:10.740 I love that you still provide this plausible deniability that I may actually sometimes have good ideas when, like, really, honestly, let's be honest.

00:17:18.040 Most of my ideas are actually good ideas.

00:17:19.600 No, no, all the fun ideas.

00:17:21.200 You're just convinced.

00:17:21.940 I bounced my ideas off of you, and you helped me come to them, but I wouldn't come to them without you. 1.00

00:17:25.720 By asking dumb questions. 0.98

00:17:26.800 It's a very pinky-in-the-brain kind of thing, which is perfect. 1.00

00:17:30.020 But I think many more people think I'm insane than you. 0.97

00:17:34.120 I mean, the brain is kind of insane. 0.93

00:17:36.140 Yeah, I guess, right? 1.00

00:17:37.780 Pinky's just dumb, so everyone wins, you know? 0.98

00:17:40.660 I love you. 0.99

00:17:41.640 What are we going to do tomorrow night?

00:17:43.600 The same thing we do every night, Pinky.

00:17:46.080 Try to take over the world.

00:17:48.420 Okay, well, do you have any additional thoughts on this?

00:17:50.660 Like, why do you think women have been able to achieve so much more power within this existing political system? 1.00

00:17:56.780 I think it's 100%.

00:17:58.020 I mean, so we're going through the process.

00:18:00.020 Right now, like, one of the reasons why I cannot think is because we are going through the process

00:18:03.820 of attempting to collect a sufficient number of petition signatures to get on a Republican ballot

00:18:09.220 to run for state house in Pennsylvania.

00:18:12.080 And the process is so incredibly bureaucratic.

00:18:17.220 All these little, like, the paper and this, well, this has to be printed double-sided with both sides up,

00:18:21.580 and you can't, like, not on this, you can never put this, and you have to put the township and not the city name,

00:18:25.880 and you're, oh, my God!

00:18:27.920 Like, this is insane.

00:18:29.780 And it, like, this is not, this is not-

00:18:34.780 Well, I think you need to have a level of submissiveness that was in you and inherent to you to be open to doing this.

00:18:41.680 Well, and just sort of, like, bureaucratic pompousness and, like, a lack of ambition, frankly, 0.94

00:18:48.620 because, like, to, yeah, to submit yourself to a system that is so dumb, that is so inefficient,

00:18:55.120 that is so poorly designed, and I get the intent behind a lot of the things that are built into the process 0.70

00:19:01.700 of registering a campaign committee and, you know, becoming, you know, a candidate to run for office

00:19:07.160 and collecting signatures.

00:19:08.160 I understand the intent, but, oh, my God, they did it so bad.

00:19:11.080 So, like, yeah, to be, I would say, like, that typical, like, hyper-masculine, high-risk, high-reward kind of archetype

00:19:18.380 and to run for office is very, very difficult, or especially to be a government worker

00:19:24.680 and, like, live in that world every single day.

00:19:27.220 You know, at least politicians sort of have to go through a lot of bureaucratic nonsense,

00:19:31.040 and then, I guess, they never really escape it, but then they become capable of hiring people

00:19:36.120 to do a lot of it for them, you know what I mean?

00:19:37.840 And then they become more of, like, a figurehead, at least, like, higher up in the system.

00:19:41.740 But, yeah, I mean, to me, that's, I just, I can't, I can't avoid seeing that as just such a major factor.

00:19:48.700 And, again, it's about conformity.

00:19:50.400 It's, you have to go through this exact process, and if you deviate it,

00:19:54.520 if one little part of the form is not properly filled out, you are out.

00:19:58.640 That is conformity.

00:19:59.760 You know, that is, that is imposing conformity on a group saying that you are, you know, equally,

00:20:05.040 you know, you are open to all, and this is a process.

00:20:09.680 It's entirely democratic, except, well, actually, I mean, if you have a job, or...

00:20:14.480 No, you keep saying if you have a job, there's no way you could run for office in this country.

00:20:17.720 There's no way.

00:20:18.820 I don't get it.

00:20:20.040 Yeah, I mean, like, if you're collecting competition signatures...

00:20:22.560 If you are an economically productive citizen, and economically productive,

00:20:25.700 people don't understand this about economics.

00:20:27.300 They're like, well, that just means you make more money.

00:20:29.460 You know, the amount of money you make is generally correlated with the amount you add to society.

00:20:32.980 And then people are like, well, what about billionaires?

00:20:36.260 Like, they make so much money.

00:20:37.680 And I'm like, well, it reminds me of this, you know, you love these 1950s coronet films.

00:20:41.700 I think one did a very good job of showing this.

00:20:44.500 It was like, every individual factory worker is able to make, well, you know, X boffits per day,

00:20:51.680 and that's how much money.

00:20:52.680 And then it's like, but then Joe came along and learned you could add this,

00:20:56.080 and it, like, increased every factory worker's productivity by 25%.

00:20:59.980 He's like, that's the equivalent of, like, X many, because there's, like, X many thousand factory workers.

00:21:05.860 That's the equivalent of X many, you know, thousand a day.

00:21:09.440 And he's like, and that's why Joe deserves to be paid more than, like, 500 factory workers.

00:21:15.580 And, of course, they would be like, what?

00:21:17.840 It's like, no, that is literally the incremental benefit he provided to society.

00:21:23.000 And they're like, well, then what about the investors?

00:21:25.440 Like, certainly, they don't deserve this.

00:21:27.200 Well, if this guy who just did this then takes his money and risks it and puts us on the line.

00:21:32.920 We do investing.

00:21:33.780 We lose our money investing all the time.

00:21:36.260 Like, I think people act like investing is, like, a sure thing, right?

00:21:39.320 Like, we lose our money investing all the time.

00:21:42.340 Probably, well, until now, we've probably made slightly more money investing than we've lost in terms of high-risk deals.

00:21:47.760 But even still, like, you, if you are not incredibly smart and incredibly judicious and putting an incredible amount of work into embedding these investments, and these investments allow other people, people without capital, people without, you know, for example.

00:22:03.720 And they're like, oh, yeah, well, you're just giving it to, like, Harvard grads or something like that.

00:22:08.800 And it's like, well, actually, if you give money to Harvard grads, you're going to make significantly less money off of those investments.

00:22:15.560 The investments where we make the most money are the money where people don't want to give that individual money because there's something about them.

00:22:21.940 Like, in Korea, we would often invest in people who dropped out of college.

00:22:24.820 In the U.S., we invest in people who have been in the prison system because nobody else wants to give them money so we can get better terms.

00:22:30.360 And they're like, isn't that, like, using them?

00:22:33.500 And it's like, no, like, this is why capitalism is good because they're offering this better term.

00:22:39.160 Somebody who otherwise wouldn't have looked at them now thinks that this is a potentially interesting investment and we can all benefit.

00:22:46.020 It's a very beautiful system, to be honest.

00:22:48.180 But, of course, to a conformist who wants to do nothing, you know, one of the posts I saw this morning that really got me is it was, like, they were mad that women were not just, like, standing in front of watering holes.

00:22:58.500 They're like, I was, as a woman, meant to just, like, stand around and look beautiful all day in front of, like, water nymphs, like, around pools of water, right?

00:23:08.420 Women never did that. 1.00

00:23:10.480 Like, even women who, like, were paid for their looks, they have to work their asses off. 1.00

00:23:15.360 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:23:16.300 And still, you know, like, the biggest earners on OnlyFans and all these other sites are those who work hard.

00:23:24.340 Oh, my God.

00:23:25.300 That's what we respect about Ayla.

00:23:26.540 She puts all this effort into, like, all this stuff around sex statistics. 1.00

00:23:30.980 If you look at her early story, she was doing all the statistical research to find out how to make her accounts do well in the early days.

00:23:37.280 Because, I mean, at least to me, I don't know, other people may think she's particularly attractive. 0.91

00:23:41.160 I don't.

00:23:42.360 I think she's gorgeous.

00:23:44.320 I don't think she's as attractive as you.

00:23:47.700 Are you kidding?

00:23:48.440 No, she is way more attractive than me, but I guess I'm your type.

00:23:51.360 Thank God.

00:23:52.060 Oh, my God.

00:23:52.540 I'm so glad I'm your type.

00:23:53.360 But so here's a question that I have is, okay, outlook not good.

00:24:00.060 You know, South Korea is, especially because they sort of have no other cultural differentiation that's really distinct.

00:24:06.280 It's now gone to gender, and the parties are becoming incredibly polarized.

00:24:10.560 And our party system is becoming quite polarized among youth as well.

00:24:14.140 You know, this is not looking good.

00:24:16.760 What, how, in what future timeline, what would the future timeline look like in which this is not, this gets better?

00:24:25.500 How will things change?

00:24:26.140 It doesn't get better.

00:24:26.860 You need to move to charter cities.

00:24:28.360 Charter cities are the future of the political and economic structure of the world.

00:24:32.620 I was thinking something similar but different.

00:24:34.660 I was thinking, like, fiefdoms.

00:24:36.360 That eventually.

00:24:37.320 That's what a charter city is.

00:24:38.880 People call it techno fiefdoms.

00:24:40.700 Charter cities, to me, sound too bureaucratic to actually be cool.

00:24:45.680 I'm sorry to charter cities.

00:24:47.400 But, like.

00:24:47.840 The existing charter cities will create a good one.

00:24:50.460 Yeah, well, but then it's really a fiefdom.

00:24:53.000 Like, it is so, it's, like, basically, like, a ruler or a business that creates some sovereign territory that people move to because it's actually functioning.

00:25:01.520 And I, I just don't, I, so, my, here's my problem with charter cities.

00:25:07.380 And maybe this is totally wrong, and I'd love for you to school me in where I'm just not that convinced, is people who create a city just to create a city are not going to create a good city.

00:25:19.480 Good cities come from economic opportunity.

00:25:23.620 They come from people who are already, like, wealthy or producing or doing something really amazing.

00:25:27.940 Because you're thinking in a historic context.

00:25:29.900 Yeah.

00:25:30.360 And that is true in a historic context, but the world has changed.

00:25:33.540 In a world with rapidly declining populations in the economically productive countries and population pools, historically, when you had an ever-increasing world talent pool,

00:25:43.380 things of a discrete quantity increased in value on average, whether it's gold or land or Bitcoin, when you have a rapidly decreasing quantity of individuals who are economically productive,

00:25:57.640 it is the individuals themselves who become the primary units of account within a society.

00:26:02.460 And so, as far as those individuals are mobile, they will leave the countries they're in and move to these charter cities, which makes these charter cities the primary,

00:26:14.180 because countries like the U.S. will become increasingly taken over by these feminist socialist dictatorships, basically, unless they go in the opposite direction. 1.00

00:26:22.700 And we have a break from our democratic system right now.

00:26:25.820 And so, as they become more and more bureaucratic, more and more toxic to live in for anyone who's economically productive or innovative,

00:26:33.400 those individuals will leave and go to these small concentrated areas, which will be the economic hubs of the world in the future.

00:26:38.460 Do you think these male polarized parties, you know, the Conservative Party in the U.S., the People Power Party in South Korea, are they doomed to fail?

00:26:52.820 Is there some world in which masculinity in government can succeed?

00:26:58.160 There is.

00:27:02.240 But it requires a political and social system shift where we are moving from the period of the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire.

00:27:10.500 Oh, no.

00:27:12.020 And I think we might be...

00:27:13.000 We're not implying that Trump should become an emperor, by the way.

00:27:16.480 No, I do not think he'd be a particularly effective emperor.

00:27:19.580 Well, he's too old. I think you need a younger emperor. Like, if we're going to go that way...

00:27:23.120 I am implying I should become an emperor.

00:27:26.020 Please, Malcolm, I'm all for this.

00:27:28.840 I'd find a way to do it, trust me, bloodlessly.

00:27:32.540 Yeah, you vaporize them instead of other messy mechanisms. I'm all for that.

00:27:36.700 But I do think that that's realistically where we're going as a country.

00:27:40.360 We're either going to transition from a democracy to an empire or we are going...

00:27:45.080 Do you think that's possible in the United States?

00:27:47.980 I just don't know. I don't...

00:27:50.080 Are you serious?

00:27:50.580 I think the United States is too well-resourced.

00:27:52.040 Hold on, hold on. Let's talk about how possible it is.

00:27:54.720 Both political parties in the U.S. right now are genuinely unwilling to recognize the legitimate election of the opposite party.

00:28:01.940 But hasn't that been happening throughout our entire lifetime?

00:28:04.680 No, it has not.

00:28:04.840 I mean, there was the hanging chad with...

00:28:06.380 It has not.

00:28:08.000 People who tell you that are lying to you.

00:28:09.900 I remember what a big deal it was when George Bush beat Gore.

00:28:14.240 Allegedly.

00:28:15.480 Allegedly.

00:28:15.840 Yes, but people largely admitted that that was okay and moved on with it.

00:28:20.920 I think right now...

00:28:22.840 No, no, no, no. It's true.

00:28:23.620 If you look historically in American history, there have been periods of higher political divide where people hated each other more, where people said worse things about the other candidate, right?

00:28:33.760 But people still basically believed the democratic system was working.

00:28:37.920 When you saw the first Trump election cycle, right, there was genuine disbelief on the left that he had actually been elected.

00:28:47.080 And now they are moving to a system, and it's worse than that, okay?

00:28:51.680 It's worse than just a disbelief in the system.

00:28:54.820 In the left, and you see this within leftist communities today, where I'm like, look, there is actually pretty good evidence of not election fraud in the way that Republicans talk about election fraud, but yeah, there was stuff going on.

00:29:13.300 I can't get too into detail here, because this is one of those things where we have special access to information that other people don't have access to.

00:29:19.380 And when I talk about this with my other, you know, quote unquote, not other, but like, elitist leftist friends who I have, who consider us part of their peer group, they're like, yeah, but like, it's okay, because Trump can't be elected.

00:29:32.220 It's okay, because we want it.

00:29:35.100 Yeah, it's okay, because...

00:29:36.340 No, but historically, that wasn't the way Americans felt.

00:29:38.920 Americans didn't feel that it was genuinely a danger to allow someone who they disagreed with to be democratically elected.

00:29:48.120 And the left feels this way very, very strongly now.

00:29:52.060 They genuinely feel that if the alternative is Trump, cheating is better.

00:29:58.000 But the right also feels this way.

00:30:00.960 If the alternative is the left, cheating is better.

00:30:05.500 And I hear this among my Republican friends as well.

00:30:07.600 I am sorry.

00:30:08.300 I hear this.

00:30:09.020 They're like, this is better.

00:30:10.400 It's not everyone.

00:30:11.360 It's not everyone on the left.

00:30:12.380 It's not everyone on the right.

00:30:13.280 But the proportion of Americans who feel this way, as people who interact with both the left and the right, both people in high positions within the left and the right, this mindset is becoming increasingly common.

00:30:24.700 And you can say that, oh, you guys are evil for saying that we are transitioning to an empire.

00:30:29.560 I'm not even saying this is a prescriptive thing.

00:30:32.260 I'm just saying it is obviously happening when both parties begin to think it's okay to cheat in elections and begin to deny the election results when they do not turn out in their favor, which both parties are doing increasingly now.

00:30:45.540 That is the premonitions or predecessors to an imperial turning or a collapse or one party basically banning the other party or, oh, you know what they would do?

00:30:58.980 I mean, classically, like suppose we were in some communist dictatorship, right, right, where like the two party system was basically a scam.

00:31:06.780 What they would do is they would just send the leading candidate of the opposing party to jail, you know, tie them up with a bunch of criminal proceedings.

00:31:16.640 But that would never happen in the U.S.

00:31:18.420 No.

00:31:19.460 And that's no, certainly.

00:31:21.540 That couldn't happen.

00:31:23.140 It certainly hasn't recently happened multiple times.

00:31:25.680 I mean, come on, Malcolm.

00:31:27.740 Yeah, I would never accuse the U.S. of doing something as insane as having spurious lawsuits against a political opponent.

00:31:37.360 And people are like, no, no, no, the lawsuits aren't spurious.

00:31:40.300 You see, it says right here on the lawsuits that the lawsuits exist for this region.

00:31:44.660 And everyone of my political party agrees with me that this is a good reason to have this lawsuit.

00:31:50.200 And it's like, I'm like, I like Trump.

00:31:53.440 Okay, but I'm not like the biggest fan.

00:31:54.980 I think he's got some ethical issues.

00:31:56.340 These lawsuits are completely spurious.

00:31:59.480 They are just meant for political advantage.

00:32:01.460 Well, the one's taking him off the ballot because he hasn't been convicted of committing treasonous acts.

00:32:06.880 He hasn't been convicted of inciting an insurrection.

00:32:10.300 There's been no conviction.

00:32:12.180 And they're like, oh, but technically you don't need a conviction.

00:32:15.640 It's like, okay, if you're saying, well, technically I'm allowed to do this, when it's taking the leading political opposition off a ballot,

00:32:24.380 you need to understand that you are setting our system up for a transfer, whether it's your side or ours to an imperial system.

00:32:34.900 Because when you think that you can do something that severe to a democratic system, out of a technicality due to wording, you are showing how little respect you have for the will of the people of this country.

00:32:48.660 That's pretty bad.

00:32:50.660 When no side has respect for the will of the people, then why are we even pretending anymore?

00:32:55.740 I don't know, though.

00:32:58.480 I mean, like when we've done door knocking, for example, you know, we have people saying things like, I just want nothing to do with politics.

00:33:04.200 I'm also seeing like an increasing indifference.

00:33:06.760 And I wonder if a lot of what's going on, because I don't like, you know, polling can be really off.

00:33:11.700 Is if similar with like, you get the impression that like every college student that isn't openly conservative is pro Hamas.

00:33:21.220 When like, really, not really, you know, that's, that's not the case, but you get the impression that like America is very polarized on the issue of abortion when no.

00:33:28.780 I disagree with you on, on some of the stuff.

00:33:31.780 Really? Okay.

00:33:33.040 I think you might be underestimating the extent of the virus within the college ecosystem and the amount of.

00:33:39.860 But maybe you are overestimating the way that the college ecosystem represents mainstream society.

00:33:46.280 Most Americans.

00:33:47.100 No, no, no, they do not understand what they mean when they say I am pro Hamas.

00:33:51.600 They do not understand what they mean when they say I am suspicious of the intentions of the Israeli state.

00:33:57.520 But they still feel these things because they do not think for themselves.

00:34:01.480 I think that this is actually a mainstream opinion on college campuses.

00:34:05.100 I think anti-Semitism is actually mainstream in the U.S. right now.

00:34:08.740 And I think it's been mainstream in the left for a while.

00:34:11.860 When I went to college, my college did research with you.

00:34:15.800 I went to St. Andrews and they did research for the Israeli military.

00:34:18.860 Like we did collaborations with them.

00:34:21.180 This was in the UK.

00:34:22.420 And at one point during my college experience, students did like a sit down in like one of the major college buildings and like didn't allow classes to happen.

00:34:29.860 They didn't allow anything to happen.

00:34:31.300 And it was to cancel these research partnerships that we were doing with Israel.

00:34:34.540 It didn't end up happening.

00:34:35.960 Back then, the university still had a spine.

00:34:38.580 They were just like, what?

00:34:39.840 But no, this stuff has happened historically for a long time.

00:34:45.860 And I'd actually say for like the reformed Jewish movement, who was like, this came out of nowhere.

00:34:50.500 This reminds me of like, you know, because I've talked to a lot of people who lived through the Holocaust.

00:34:54.900 And they're like, look, I read Mein Kampf.

00:34:56.300 Like, I knew this was coming.

00:34:58.780 This reminds me of a lot of people from that time when they're like, I told my community, read this dang book.

00:35:04.860 He's telling us what he's about to do.

00:35:06.840 So you guys need to get them out.

00:35:10.140 And I feel that right now both sides have.

00:35:12.180 OK, so your argument is that both sides have a very clear playbook and each playbook is extremely anti-democratic.

00:35:17.980 Yeah, both playbooks are anti-democratic.

00:35:20.720 But I also specifically here is the progressive side is incredibly anti-Semitic.

00:35:25.360 And anyone who cannot see what happens if they win, any Jew who can't see what happens if they win is honestly, they deserve what they get. 0.63

00:35:35.340 And people might be like, why would you say that?

00:35:37.200 And it's because, well, this experience that I had that was really meaningful to me.

00:35:41.120 So I was talking was I might have talked about this in some of our books, but it was my girlfriend in high school.

00:35:45.680 I dated a Jewish girl for a while.

00:35:47.560 Really liked her, actually.

00:35:48.800 She's one of one of my favorite girlfriends I dated other than my wife.

00:35:52.220 Right.

00:35:52.380 Why do I always date Jews? 1.00

00:35:53.560 Right.

00:35:53.780 I always date Jews. 0.92

00:35:54.620 Anyway, and her grandfather.

00:35:55.800 I've only heard of one.

00:35:57.760 Really?

00:35:58.900 Yeah.

00:35:59.140 So her grandfather escaped the Holocaust and he was in a Jewish community at the time and he had actually read Mein Kampf and that's what hit him off.

00:36:07.380 And he got really freaked out.

00:36:08.980 He's like, this is going to happen.

00:36:10.820 And he was a teenager at the time and he got like, he made such a stink about this.

00:36:15.400 Like apparently he like made a big about this to try to get everyone's attention.

00:36:19.080 And the community basically kicked him out.

00:36:21.500 And so he broke into his girlfriend at the time's house, like broke in, like broke the window, snuck in at night and was like, look, either you come with me or you're definitely going to die.

00:36:32.760 And she trusted him and she came with him and he ended up marrying her.

00:36:37.160 And that was his wife.

00:36:37.980 And this, this girl was a descendant of this family.

00:36:40.240 And everyone he knew for, he knew from that community ended up dying.

00:36:43.600 Um, and, and I think that when you're saying something, when you're like, look, you don't understand the powers that be are actually threatening to you right now.

00:36:51.800 No, I would say with this story, it does not have the happiest.

00:36:56.260 He did make a few mistakes.

00:36:58.680 Typically, he fled to Poland.

00:37:02.140 Whoops.

00:37:03.020 And then he fled to Russia.

00:37:04.840 Oh.

00:37:05.280 And then he fled to Siberia.

00:37:07.260 He ended up coming to the U.S. from the east.

00:37:10.380 That was how bad it ended up having to be.

00:37:12.380 But, uh, so he, just like Dante, he just had to go all the way through hell and then just out.

00:37:17.840 All the way through hell to come back out and settled on the east coast and had a bunch of descendants and, and lived at, I mean, he was very financially successful in life.

00:37:26.540 So he lived a happy, you know, you know, whatever, like, but I think that people don't like, like one of the useful things about studying what was happening and what happened to the Jews who tried to warn their communities about what was about to happen pre Holocaust.

00:37:41.720 Is you can learn a lot from that.

00:37:44.140 Like that got me really interested in this phenomenon.

00:37:46.680 What happened to the Jews who tried to warn their communities what was about to happen.

00:37:50.920 And I think that today was in Jews in the progressive sphere who are warning, like, this is not normal what's going on right now.

00:38:00.120 Bad things are going to come of this.

00:38:02.540 And worse, the things that are so bad that it would be considered offensive for me to even tell you where this is heading.

00:38:10.380 Like, yeah, I mean, what makes me very concerned about this is when the pandemic happened, there was just this complete inability of even really, really, really smart people.

00:38:26.560 We know, although a lot of people that I would, so, so many of your smart friend circles did totally see this coming.

00:38:33.540 And we're like, guys, everyone, let's get PPE, like in January, you know, like, so many other smart people we knew, like many of the investors in our travel business, for example, we're like, don't worry, this will blow over in four months.

00:38:49.380 Like, it's fine.

00:38:51.440 Yeah, people need to understand with the pandemic, we shut down our company and battered basically all the doors at a stage where if the pandemic happened the way we predicted, because I was like looking at pandemic cases, I have a background training in biology.

00:39:04.600 I was like, there is no way this doesn't spread globally.

00:39:06.700 I do not know how anyone is saying this isn't going to spread globally.

00:39:09.840 The pandemic was real.

00:39:10.980 Like, conservatives are like, the pandemic isn't real.

00:39:13.120 The pandemic was real.

00:39:14.520 People did stuff in response to it, but the pandemic was real.

00:39:17.640 When I was like, they're definitely going to shut down and ground all flights.

00:39:21.180 If we had been wrong in this assertion, we would have been fired and we would have been permanently disgraced in our fields.

00:39:29.160 We bet our careers, our lives, and our livelihoods on the pandemic spreading in the way that it did.

00:39:37.580 And we were told that we were insane by otherwise smart people.

00:39:40.960 Because at the time, the progressive standpoint was, and a lot of people forget that this was true early in the pandemic, because it was anti the narrative, the people freaking out about the pandemic were called conservative extremists in the very early days.

00:39:56.000 And that's just, it makes me afraid, because it means, what are we going to experience with other, like, black swan events?

00:40:08.440 We're experiencing a few right now.

00:40:09.860 I mean, that's what the fertility crash is. 0.99

00:40:11.940 Yeah, right.

00:40:13.300 And people are completely unwilling to recognize that it could possibly be an issue.

00:40:19.340 Well, I love you, and I'm glad that you have so much mental fortitude and that you're here fighting with me for all this, because the world would be screwed if it wasn't for women like you. 1.00

00:40:31.940 And I really hope that our audience who's out there looking for partners can find good partners.

00:40:36.360 Good women exist, like men who are. 1.00

00:40:39.380 No, hold on.

00:40:40.800 You just cut out after saying good women exist. 0.99

00:40:43.720 Good women exist. 1.00

00:40:44.960 Men who are out there saying you can't trust any woman.

00:40:46.740 All I'd say is that you are objectively and provably wrong.

00:40:50.540 There are many men who have had great relationships with intelligent, emotionally mature women.

00:40:58.240 And really, this is just your defeatism.

00:41:00.760 If you can make yourself into a good enough man, you can get a great woman.

00:41:05.900 You just have to keep trying, and you need to treat it like a second job.

00:41:10.620 Wise words, Malcolm Collins.

00:41:11.760 Videos on finding a wife in a fallen world, that's one of our actually better performing videos.

00:41:15.880 If anyone wants to check that out.

00:41:17.340 Oh, that's good.

00:41:18.120 I'm glad, because I really want people to. 0.97

00:41:20.300 Well, you know, we had the paired video on that, which is how to get sex whenever you want sex. 0.87

00:41:24.100 And the AI said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:41:26.960 We do not like your strategy here.

00:41:28.480 We do not publish this.

00:41:29.560 We do not publish this.

00:41:30.600 We never publish it.

00:41:32.180 Maybe someday there will be some high tier of Substack subscriber that gets access to that.

00:41:36.400 But also like.

00:41:37.460 No, because then reporters would pay for access to it, and they'd use it against us.

00:41:41.100 Yeah.

00:41:42.180 Not, oh, like our political careers and public advocate careers are not already completely destroyed by.

00:41:48.440 Well, we have the episode, which I am debating whether or not to publish now.

00:41:52.520 Oh, God.

00:41:52.960 Which is it, is victim blaming actually a good thing?

00:41:56.940 Exactly.

00:41:57.580 See, that's, I mean, you know, we're done.

00:41:59.240 That includes the argument, not the argument, the question from the evidence is, is it more the husband or the wife's fault when the wife gets abused, physically abused?

00:42:11.220 This is a very spicy question to consider seriously.

00:42:14.740 And so, so we don't consider it seriously.

00:42:17.100 We consider it as a joke.

00:42:18.520 And we look only at fictional data, not real world data.

00:42:22.060 I mean, if it accidentally correlates with real world data, that would be a funny, weird thing.

00:42:29.240 But we certainly hadn't looked at the data before postulating what it might say.

00:42:34.500 Certainly not.

00:42:35.420 But, you know, of course, regardless, we're going to hell. 0.99

00:42:38.060 So I'll see you in hell, my friend. 0.99

00:42:40.540 But. 0.97

00:42:41.000 Obviously, we're going to progressive hell, which it turns out weird is heaven.

00:42:45.840 That, that telling the truth, even when it conflicts with the societal narratives, that it turns out that isn't what gets people actually sent to hell.

00:42:55.600 It's lying so that you can fit societal narratives and be accepted within a population group that has fallen.

00:43:02.140 That that's what gets you sent to hell in the real world.

00:43:05.400 But anyway, so fun. 0.96

00:43:08.140 Hell is wherever you aren't.

00:43:09.780 So as long as we're going together, my friend.

00:43:12.040 We're good.

00:43:12.420 You are the sweetest, best wife I could ask for. 0.99

00:43:17.240 I hate all humans except you. 0.92

00:43:20.420 I don't know what to say. 0.99

00:43:21.160 And our kids, of course.

00:43:22.120 But that's just pocket Malcolms.

00:43:23.680 I love all the pocket Malcolms.

00:43:25.820 I need to have the little quote by April Lubgate here.

00:43:29.020 I guess I kind of hate most things, but I never really seem to hate you.

00:43:36.220 So I want to spend the rest of my life with you.

00:43:38.900 Is that cool?

00:43:39.340 Beautiful quote.

00:43:42.760 Beautiful quote.

00:43:43.740 Well, we've got some Indian food to get.

00:43:47.840 I'm so excited.

00:43:49.120 Thank you, Malcolm.

00:43:50.320 Thank you.

00:43:51.520 Oh, wow.

00:43:52.960 It worked?

00:43:54.440 I think it did.

00:43:57.560 Whoa, cool.

00:44:00.560 All right.

00:44:01.500 Well.

00:44:01.940 I appreciate you changing your order for my benefit.

00:44:03.780 Oh, you know, I only, I just really want to make you happy. 0.56

00:44:10.680 Like it matters so fucking much to me. 0.79

00:44:13.800 Oh, my God. 0.93

00:44:16.080 It's happening. 1.00

00:44:17.840 Fuck. 1.00

00:44:18.360 It's happening. 1.00

00:44:20.620 Jesus.

00:44:21.200 I'm so excited.

00:44:21.980 Why did you do this?

00:44:27.780 Because I want you to be happy.

00:44:29.540 And I thought that this would really cheer you up tonight.

00:44:32.240 Well.

00:44:33.300 Wait, how long have we been recording?

00:44:35.640 For seven minutes?

00:44:39.440 I'll use some of this.

00:44:41.000 Don't.

00:44:41.560 Oh, my God. 0.99

00:44:42.240 You're the worst. 0.99

00:44:43.260 Well, okay. 0.99

00:44:43.860 Okay.

Based Camp - February 14, 2024

Are We Headed Towards A Permanent Gendered Political Divide？

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