Based Camp - Based Camp： Lizard People are Real and Simone is One of Them

00:00:00.000 When I first met her for a long time, she really hates touching people, just hates it.

00:00:04.540 And so early on, she would even wear gloves when we go in public.

00:00:08.080 So she didn't have to actually touch anyone's hands.

00:00:10.760 It's the same with doors.

00:00:11.940 She will sit and wait at a door for like eight minutes for me to open it for her because 1.00

00:00:15.380 she hates touching door handles, knowing that a lot of other people have touched these door

00:00:19.680 handles.

00:00:20.600 She really likes like a intense schedules.

00:00:24.100 She likes, you know, ceremony in her daily life, like doing very structured things.

00:00:27.980 And I'm like, what does this sound like?

00:00:29.220 This sounds a lot like court culture in medieval Europe.

00:00:33.900 You know, having to wear gloves before you touch people, standing at doors.

00:00:37.760 There's even accounts of nobles like standing at a door for 30 minutes because there wasn't

00:00:42.140 the servant who was supposed to be there to open the door for them.

00:00:44.840 And then the intense ceremonies and very specific things you had to do throughout the day and

00:00:49.940 the ways you had to interact with people, even the not looking them in the eyes thing.

00:00:54.000 So much of it sounds like they've tried to create this little autistic paradise for themselves. 1.00

00:00:59.220 Or at least similar to how autism is manifest in my wife. 0.93

00:01:04.240 It's a little suspicious.

00:01:05.840 Would you like to know more?

00:01:08.380 Simone, I have heard this conspiracy theory that lizard people control our society.

00:01:15.880 Now, when they say this, what they mean is there's a group of people who are like humans,

00:01:21.440 you know, humanoid, but a little different, maybe less emotional than other humans,

00:01:26.200 sort of secretly controlling our society.

00:01:30.100 And the funny thing is, is we actually had a chapter we removed from our book on this subject

00:01:36.440 saying that it might be true, but not in the way that the conspiracy theorists make.

00:01:44.840 There was an organization that I worked with for a while that I really like that would gather very

00:01:49.900 high caliber people.

00:01:51.900 Like their criteria for membership was you have to be the best in your field in order to qualify

00:01:57.680 as a member.

00:01:58.820 So this is bringing together the top tech CEOs, diplomats, politicians, writers, journalists,

00:02:05.000 activists, artists, et cetera, to have off the record conversations.

00:02:10.480 And the funny thing about it is that it was very much a series of retreats really designed for

00:02:16.820 autistic people where, you know, you're sitting, you know, every moment of the day is scheduled.

00:02:21.080 When you sit down for a conversation with people, the subject is chosen.

00:02:24.940 The people are handpicked for each other.

00:02:26.780 And there's one moderator that is making sure the conversation, you know, stays on track and

00:02:31.100 that everyone speaks and contributes.

00:02:32.900 It's like a super, super structured.

00:02:34.500 There's no stress about, okay, where do I need to be?

00:02:36.860 Which topic should I attend?

00:02:38.640 Like that's all decided for you.

00:02:40.040 It's like, I love it personally because I'm autistic and I love like the structure and the

00:02:46.380 guidelines and the rules and the procedures.

00:02:49.020 And oh my gosh, it's dreamy.

00:02:51.840 But I think it's telling what's telling about it.

00:02:55.380 Disproportionately, the elite cast in our society is on the spectrum already.

00:02:59.780 Yeah.

00:02:59.980 Even if they don't admit it, that like that this kind of format would appeal disproportionately

00:03:04.520 to the top performers in their respective fields.

00:03:07.920 It's not an admit or not admit thing.

00:03:09.460 We can just look.

00:03:10.420 I can look at the richest people in the world.

00:03:11.900 I can look at Mark Zuckerberg on a stage trying to give a speech.

00:03:14.920 And I'm like, oh, that guy is obviously on the spectrum.

00:03:17.880 Elon Musk has admitted to being diagnosed with Asperger's, which now doesn't exist as a diagnosis

00:03:23.100 and is just autistic.

00:03:24.460 Just in case people aren't familiar, the reason why the diagnosis of Asperger's doesn't exist

00:03:28.240 anymore is because it used to be autistic, but high IQ and successful.

00:03:33.280 And it's like, that's super unfair.

00:03:35.640 Like imagine if there was like dyslexic and then dyslexic, but successful.

00:03:40.080 Well, then everybody who is labeled dyslexic, that's labeling you as also unsuccessful.

00:03:45.660 So everyone's going to assume that you're like barely functional if you're dyslexic.

00:03:49.200 So it is really unfair that you would ever carve off the successful people from a diagnosis.

00:03:55.000 So, or high IQ at least, you know, and that's what we were seeing was that.

00:03:59.080 So historically, Simone would have been diagnosed as Asperger's, but today she'd be diagnosed 0.98

00:04:02.780 as autistic.

00:04:03.280 But anyway, and I think this is where we got that negative stigma for autistic with the

00:04:08.560 older generation, but you know, you can look at so many of these high profile, you know,

00:04:12.960 super wealthy billionaires talk and you're just like, oh gosh, like if you've been around

00:04:16.200 a lot of people on the spectrum, you're like, these people are obviously on the spectrum.

00:04:19.280 But what I find most fascinating about this theory is that this may not be a new phenomenon.

00:04:25.260 It may have been around for a very long time.

00:04:27.800 So let's look at some of the ways that Simone is weird in her autism.

00:04:31.960 When I first met her for a long time, she really hates touching people, just hates it.

00:04:36.700 And so early on, she would even wear gloves when we go in public.

00:04:40.260 So she didn't have to actually touch anyone's hands.

00:04:42.940 It's the same with doors.

00:04:44.100 She will sit and wait at a door for like eight minutes for me to open it for her because 1.00

00:04:47.560 she hates touching door handles, knowing that a lot of other people have touched these

00:04:51.660 door handles.

00:04:52.440 She really likes like a intense schedules.

00:04:55.920 She likes, you know, ceremony in her daily life, like doing very structured things.

00:05:00.140 And I'm like, what does this sound like?

00:05:01.640 This sounds a lot like court culture in medieval Europe.

00:05:06.000 You know, having to wear gloves before you touch people, standing at doors.

00:05:09.920 There's even accounts of nobles like standing at a door for 30 minutes because there wasn't

00:05:14.320 the servant who was supposed to be there to open the door for them.

00:05:16.940 And then the intense ceremonies and very specific things you had to do throughout the day and

00:05:22.120 the ways you had to interact with people.

00:05:23.300 Even the not looking them in the eyes thing, so much of it sounds like they've tried to

00:05:29.200 create this little autistic paradise for themselves, or at least similar to how autism is manifest 0.98

00:05:34.180 in my wife.

00:05:36.300 It's a little suspicious.

00:05:38.640 What if society, but okay.

00:05:41.660 So here's where this whole theory gets a lot more interesting, which is, does that mean

00:05:48.880 that if it is true that people who are running these major tech companies are more likely

00:05:53.860 to be autistic, do you think that means that they can't relate to the general population

00:05:56.760 as much?

00:05:57.660 And they're trying to push things that maybe the general population wouldn't like?

00:06:01.400 Like, is there genuine merit to this lizard person accusation where if these people are

00:06:06.980 different, does that mean they can't understand people?

00:06:10.220 So I've heard this critique from people also who have worked in very senior roles in Silicon

00:06:16.100 Valley, for example.

00:06:17.060 Like, I've heard this critique of, oh, these people who are completely tone deaf, who don't

00:06:23.500 know how to relate to other people, are here so confident that they're making solutions for

00:06:29.340 the rest of society when they can't even begin to model the rest of society.

00:06:33.320 And I try to come in and I try to explain these things to them and they just look at me blankly

00:06:38.200 and just do what they were going to do because they either don't get it or don't care.

00:06:43.020 And, you know, I hear that argument and I'm just thinking, well, you're wrong.

00:06:47.960 Like, these people are doing what's optimal and like, I don't know.

00:06:51.300 I love you.

00:06:51.900 It's like, no, you don't know what's best for you.

00:06:54.100 Yeah, kind of.

00:06:55.640 I'm like, well, these are the mentats of society.

00:06:58.740 They are calculating and they are making the correct decision.

00:07:01.440 And, you know, they're, you know, trying.

00:07:04.840 But also, like, I know that I'm biased and like, if I am also one of these supposed lizard

00:07:09.540 people or is they just saw these like autistic, non-empathetic people who can't possibly understand 0.61

00:07:16.160 what it's like to not be one of those people, then of course, I would say that.

00:07:19.740 And of course, I wouldn't get it.

00:07:20.960 Right.

00:07:21.260 So I don't know.

00:07:21.860 You're more on the non-autistic neuro atypical end of the spectrum.

00:07:26.260 Like, what would you say is correct?

00:07:29.460 Like, is that right?

00:07:30.180 Like, are these people wrong to be running society?

00:07:32.780 Are they and would society be better if run by people who are like, I don't know, more 1.00

00:07:38.640 socially empathetic?

00:07:40.580 Because I kind of feel like it would be.

00:07:42.540 I don't think it would be.

00:07:43.420 I don't know if this is the best scenario.

00:07:45.540 I mean, I do think whenever you get a subgroup of the population that's disproportionately represented

00:07:49.680 in positions of power, that leads to negative consequences often.

00:07:53.980 Right.

00:07:54.240 However, if there was a population that was going to be differentially selected, I can

00:08:00.160 see it.

00:08:01.200 Well, I mean, here's the thing.

00:08:02.360 And this is, of course, a highly criticized view that, you know, these people built these

00:08:09.460 organizations.

00:08:10.100 They made it, obviously, like, if you think you, whoever it is you are with your worldview,

00:08:16.360 are so good and so perfect at running things, why are you apparently incapable of building

00:08:22.240 the thing that runs things?

00:08:23.940 Like, if you can make it, like, you know, do it then.

00:08:28.700 Like, why haven't you built it?

00:08:29.960 You know, because you can't.

00:08:31.140 Because you are not capable.

00:08:32.200 Because the lizard people are now lecturing you. 1.00

00:08:35.800 Why you non-lizard people can't become rich?

00:08:40.440 What is wrong with you?

00:08:40.860 Right.

00:08:41.220 Because, you know, I guess, you know, an outsider that I'm very poorly trying to model, and I

00:08:46.080 admit that I'm not very good at this, would be like, oh, systemic bias.

00:08:50.140 And, you know, I've been kept down and I'm not given a place in the room.

00:08:54.280 But I also don't feel like awkward autistic people are given a place. 1.00

00:08:58.580 Oh, another thing I've heard, which I think is really interesting, is they're like,

00:09:01.660 you know what?

00:09:02.900 Also, these are all very sad autistic people who were bullied throughout their childhoods

00:09:09.360 and rejected by all their friends.

00:09:11.340 And now they're taking out their aggression.

00:09:14.280 Their revenge fantasy, yeah.

00:09:15.200 Their revenge fantasy upon society with these startups, which I also think is really interesting.

00:09:20.100 Because I genuinely, my understanding of life as an autistic person, and my understanding

00:09:25.240 of other autistic people, is they, like, legit don't care, really, about, like,

00:09:31.560 what other people are saying about that.

00:09:32.860 Like, I remember as a kid, like, people saying stuff to me that I just didn't, like, that kind

00:09:38.740 of went over my head, and then getting in really big trouble, and, like, you know, being, like,

00:09:43.460 benched during swim practice or whatever.

00:09:45.920 Well, that other people were benched.

00:09:47.140 So the way you said that was a little confusing, I think.

00:09:49.840 What she means is people would be making fun of her, didn't realize they were making fun of her,

00:09:55.160 didn't feel mean or hurtful to her.

00:09:57.420 But then I would know that they had done it because they got punished for it.

00:10:00.920 Yeah, for the context of the way the adults reacted to it, it was clear that they had

00:10:04.620 been really mean.

00:10:05.500 Yeah, and so that's, so my experience as an autistic person, I mean, I didn't know that

00:10:10.880 until, like, we got diagnosed way later.

00:10:12.800 But anyway, like, my experience is such that I don't even think that these people are bullied

00:10:17.340 in the way that the socially empathic people think that they were.

00:10:21.680 So there really isn't this revenge.

00:10:23.880 Like, they legit don't care what these people think.

00:10:28.020 And I think it's interesting that these, well, we'll just say the empaths, right?

00:10:31.780 Like, the socially, like, good people or whatever, the non-lizard people, are, like, they're

00:10:38.020 modeling the lizard people as though the lizard people were empaths, but just evil.

00:10:43.700 You know what I mean?

00:10:44.420 Like, oh, I'm going to take revenge.

00:10:45.800 I really care what you think.

00:10:47.000 Like, whereas, like, instead, they're, like, legit more, like, like, mentats, just like,

00:10:50.980 beep, boop, like, I'm going to build a thing.

00:10:52.780 And then they do it really well, maybe because they're not tied down by all this empathetic

00:10:57.220 social positioning nonsense, right?

00:10:59.100 Like, they just want to, like, build my computer thing, whatever, right?

00:11:02.320 And then they do it.

00:11:03.540 So I don't know.

00:11:04.320 And I, like, I wish I must find an opportunity when I find someone making this critique again

00:11:09.200 to ask them, okay, like, what do you want the lizard people to do? 0.94

00:11:15.680 Like, what do you want these tech bros who are, like, running the world to do differently

00:11:21.360 aside from, and the only answer I've heard so far, and please, someone correct me in

00:11:26.460 the comments here, is, well, they should give my group more power, which, it just doesn't

00:11:36.700 sound like an encompassing solution, right?

00:11:38.820 Like, I want to hear what you would do with that power then.

00:11:41.360 Like, what would you do once you have that power?

00:11:42.800 Because the thing I hear after that is, well, I would put more of my people in power.

00:11:46.480 And then I'm just like, like, this isn't going anywhere.

00:11:49.600 This just sounds like I just want more people like me in positions of power, in which case

00:11:53.160 my answer would be, okay, build the next thing and own it.

00:11:56.040 So I don't know.

00:11:56.860 I don't know where to go with this.

00:11:58.080 Pro lizard people, obviously. 0.82

00:11:59.720 Very biased.

00:12:00.100 I do have another place to go with this, which is, if this is a problem right now, it's a

00:12:06.380 problem that is likely going to get bigger in the future.

00:12:09.700 With autistic people having, in a world of technology, the autist is king. 1.00

00:12:15.860 And in a world of work from home, this is something that we've really seen, you know,

00:12:19.900 is that our own family, since we started predominantly working at home, is your productivity

00:12:24.700 differential to my productivity has gone up astronomically more.

00:12:29.620 Not having to have other people interfering with your daily routines has really just made

00:12:36.540 you go so much faster.

00:12:38.000 And I really like the analogy that was made about what it's like to be autistic that I

00:12:43.860 want to share with the audience here, because I think it's a really powerful one.

00:12:47.160 It's as if you are a race car that is optimized for a race car track.

00:12:55.920 And so if you try to live like normal life, like you try to go on normal roads or worse,

00:13:02.520 go off-roading, like have your schedule disrupted, you perform astronomically worse than other cars.

00:13:08.800 But when you are able to control your entire routine from top to bottom, when it's a

00:13:17.060 perfect track and you have a pit crew, which is, I guess, me, you're like the handler, basically,

00:13:22.440 you can perform really astronomically.

00:13:25.880 And I mean, this is somebody, you know, I work with my wife, so I work with a lot of other

00:13:29.300 people who work for us and stuff like that.

00:13:31.200 I have never worked with somebody who can output anywhere close to you, Simone.

00:13:35.440 Oh, your daily output is just bananas.

00:13:40.200 And the core reason is because, and I don't know what this is about you, but you don't take

00:13:45.700 breaks, like you are able to consistently work for like a five hour period, even when you're

00:13:52.300 not like off the chain, passionate about something.

00:13:55.380 That is not something I can do.

00:13:57.440 Realistically, I can work for like 30 minutes and then I take like a two hour break and then

00:14:01.500 I work for 30 minutes and then I take like a two hour break.

00:14:04.120 I mean, I'm not trying to do, unless I'm just like really passionate about something and

00:14:08.580 it's like 2 a.m.

00:14:09.480 Yeah.

00:14:10.140 2 a.m.

00:14:10.920 Key.

00:14:11.420 I love that you start working then.

00:14:13.480 I appreciate that.

00:14:14.360 I think, yeah, what, when, what I saw too of parents, we know who have autistic children

00:14:18.820 in various ages, like especially adolescents.

00:14:21.960 Yeah.

00:14:22.060 And we have an autistic kid.

00:14:22.960 But when I hear about parents whose autistic kids are going through what we call the industrial

00:14:26.920 school system, you know, either like public or private schools, but where they're taught

00:14:30.120 by teachers and they're being forced taught instead of self-taught, they just thrived during

00:14:36.400 the pandemic when they got to direct their own education, work from home, not sit around peers,

00:14:41.700 not work on other people's schedules.

00:14:43.100 So I agree with you that especially like as more parents are shifting their children to

00:14:47.600 work from home and as more businesses are shifting to work from home, it's, I think

00:14:51.500 it's really going to give autistic people a leg up.

00:14:54.020 I also think that a lot of like internet communities and cultures, and we've talked about this in

00:14:59.400 the past, like 4chan being the male autistic id online and Tumblr, and it's now diaspora being

00:15:05.440 the female autistic id online.

00:15:07.020 That like autistic people have very much been empowered online.

00:15:10.580 And that maybe that means that autistic people will also be able to form relationships and

00:15:16.040 have kids at higher rates than they did in the past.

00:15:18.420 Maybe meaning that we'll see more autistic people. 1.00

00:15:20.660 Well, I think that this is also worth double clicking on what you were saying right there

00:15:24.060 is people are like, oh, it's only the elite in our society who are top down enforcing autistic

00:15:29.560 culture on us.

00:15:30.340 And it's like, not really.

00:15:32.220 I mean, 4chan is the creator of most online culture, whether you're talking about MAGA

00:15:38.260 or bronies or, you know, the, what's that foundation where they capture the, like spooky

00:15:43.860 thing foundation.

00:15:45.420 What?

00:15:45.620 Anyway, there's so much of online culture, so many meme formats, you know, Pepe, et cetera.

00:15:50.280 All of this is coming from 4chan and this is the space that self-admitted has a higher than

00:15:58.260 normal autistic population to majority autistic population.

00:16:03.020 And then you can look at the progressive memes that have taken over the progressive meme

00:16:07.560 plex.

00:16:08.520 A lot of these came from Tumblr culture and Tumblr was self-professed again, really heavily

00:16:15.380 autistic, especially back in the day that when all of these things were really bubbling

00:16:20.580 up.

00:16:20.940 And so why is it that these autistic spaces are generating the culture that ends up dominating 1.00

00:16:29.360 the rest of our society, both bubbling up from the bottom and being enforced from the

00:16:35.960 top?

00:16:36.880 I think what you said is right, is that it is this ability to thrive within an online environment.

00:16:43.720 And when we said that historically, you know, we were talking about at least high performing

00:16:51.520 autistic problems, it was more that we were forcing them to live in an environment that

00:16:58.540 was not conducive to like the level of, self-care is the wrong word, self-tuning they needed to

00:17:05.340 be optimal all the time.

00:17:06.720 And that's what, when you see autistic people do the things that we often associate with autism,

00:17:10.620 like tics and stuff like that, right?

00:17:12.080 These behaviors are happening when we're forcing them into environments where they're not-

00:17:17.040 That don't work for them.

00:17:17.900 Yeah.

00:17:18.120 They don't work for them.

00:17:19.100 Yeah.

00:17:19.300 And this was one of the things when we're creating the Collins Institute, which is our

00:17:22.300 school system that we really focused on is how do we create a school system that knowing

00:17:26.800 what you went through and that you almost ended up dying in the traditional public school

00:17:30.960 system.

00:17:31.380 How do we help our kids not have to go through that and help other people who think like you

00:17:38.780 not have to go through that?

00:17:39.880 So that's something we've really tried to build into it.

00:17:43.080 Yeah.

00:17:43.900 Yeah.

00:17:44.380 It's interesting.

00:17:45.120 Well, and then there's the phenomenon that may or may not be there of autistic people now

00:17:51.560 coalescing in certain zones, like around Silicon Valley, because it seems to select for more

00:17:57.160 autistic-friendly careers and social spheres.

00:18:01.460 So, you know, yeah, I mean, it does seem like we're moving in a direction of, if not

00:18:07.620 numerically, at least in terms of influence and reach, autistic people are gaining influence.

00:18:13.680 Though, again, and we're not super invested in this theory, but it does seem like maybe

00:18:18.360 autistic people in the past also were disproportionately represented in leadership.

00:18:22.540 So like, maybe this isn't always thing, but it also seems to be an increasing thing, wouldn't

00:18:26.240 you say?

00:18:27.680 Yeah.

00:18:28.060 Well, yeah.

00:18:28.540 So you could say not gaining influence, but consolidating influence.

00:18:32.260 And I love having you here to talk about this, because this is one of those things that

00:18:36.180 I could have noticed, but if I didn't have an autistic wife, I would never, I probably 1.00

00:18:40.340 would. 1.00

00:18:40.640 I'm that level of stupidly walking through third rails. 0.99

00:18:43.720 No, but I also, I don't think you would have noticed these subtler patterns if you hadn't 0.98

00:18:48.060 had to deal with me.

00:18:49.100 I didn't really understand autism before looking at how you're weird and being like, oh, that's

00:18:54.460 what it is.

00:18:55.420 And again, we should clarify, not like self-diagnosed autistic.

00:18:58.220 Our kids and her have been diagnosed, you know, by medical professionals and everything.

00:19:03.120 Well, and yeah, that's also not to say that like my autistic experience represents everyone's

00:19:07.520 autistic experience.

00:19:08.640 Everyone has a unique experience. 0.86

00:19:11.660 Yeah, you're the hot autistic woman, which is quite a find. 1.00

00:19:16.780 I'm telling all the guys here, being married to a autistic woman makes things much easier 1.00

00:19:23.820 because, okay, yes, she has a lot of rules, but the rules are consistent. 0.91

00:19:29.400 I know.

00:19:29.840 I don't know.

00:19:30.040 I think there's also a weird, and I'm a five.

00:19:32.740 Let's be honest here.

00:19:33.640 Like I'm not.

00:19:34.360 You are not a five.

00:19:35.840 I'm average.

00:19:36.520 I'm not unpleasant looking and I'm not like a model, but I would say that like, I also

00:19:41.880 think that among hot, but also very smart and competent women, autism, mostly undiagnosed

00:19:50.140 would be like way overrepresented, way overrepresented.

00:19:55.600 And that would mean it's a sign of genetic fitness because signs of genetic fitness often

00:19:59.340 correlate with each other.

00:20:00.440 Like the more attractive somebody is, the higher IQ they're likely to be, the taller they're

00:20:04.300 likely to be, the more susceptible their face is likely to be.

00:20:07.180 You typically see any sign of genetic fitness correlating with other signs of genetic fitness.

00:20:11.820 If that's the case, then all you're saying is autism is genetically optimal.

00:20:17.520 Well, or this is one of those things.

00:20:18.620 And I think this is a really interesting theory that you have, or that I guess many people

00:20:21.960 have, but you were the one who introduced me to it of that things, the traits like autism

00:20:26.780 or it's like disorders like autism or schizophrenia managed to persist in people's genetic lines

00:20:34.420 because like in moderation, they're useful.

00:20:37.260 Like in moderation, someone who's more on the schizophrenic end is useful because they 1.00

00:20:41.000 model people really well on the autistic and are useful in a society because they, you

00:20:45.780 know, I don't know.

00:20:46.700 Well, this is something you can be fairly sure of given how quickly sociological profiles

00:20:50.420 change at the genetic level.

00:20:51.780 You see a trait and it is common across all cultures, especially if you know that it's not

00:20:57.220 something that's being selected for because it's associated with something else.

00:21:01.340 So something that's really cool when you talk about like intelligence and autism and

00:21:06.100 the genetic component of this is that Simone, you know, compared to me, if you look at her 1.00

00:21:11.000 genes, she should only be about a half a standard deviation above the general population in terms 1.00

00:21:16.180 of her IQ, which is something when I'm talking about her being really productive, where she 0.59

00:21:21.120 is off the charts genetically at the 99th percentile is in systematizing, which is a common trait

00:21:28.440 within the autistic population.

00:21:29.920 So I wonder if that is specifically the systematizing, what's giving you this advantage.

00:21:37.020 I wonder too, I think there's something really interesting going on there and might explain

00:21:41.260 why autism is like seemingly disproportionately associated with people who are like inventors

00:21:48.680 or scientists like Darwin or Zuckerberg, if he is autistic, that kind of thing.

00:21:54.000 And that like, these are people who have this deep desire to organize in their minds logistically

00:22:01.460 and categorize things.

00:22:03.460 Yeah.

00:22:03.900 I mean, keep in mind that like Facebook started out as like a ranking kind of thing, like a

00:22:08.460 sorting thing, didn't it?

00:22:09.520 Oh yeah.

00:22:09.900 Well, and I remember something that the general population didn't know is you did a, when you

00:22:14.460 were getting diagnosed with autistic, they did like a IQ test on you and you got in the

00:22:18.460 top 0.5% in terms of the IQ test.

00:22:22.200 So you are outperforming people even within IQ tests, even though you don't have this,

00:22:27.000 the genetic role of the dice there that's giving you an advantage.

00:22:29.840 So it must be the systematizing or it could just be that none of genes matter.

00:22:35.000 Wouldn't that make our detractors so happy if it turns out genes don't matter?

00:22:38.160 I don't know.

00:22:40.800 I don't care.

00:22:41.900 You know, what we care about is outcomes and not what shows up on paper or tests.

00:22:47.940 So I don't care if someone has the highest IQ in the world, if they're not doing, if

00:22:52.760 they're not making a meaningful impact on the world vis-a-vis their values, or if they

00:22:56.060 haven't thought through their values, like zero respect for them versus someone who's

00:22:59.700 like tech technically, you know, super low IQ, but they do something meaningful with their

00:23:05.800 lives.

00:23:06.040 So if anything, they deserve more respect.

00:23:08.820 I guess.

00:23:09.640 I mean, I don't even think so because I think that intelligence and the various pieces of

00:23:14.320 baggage, it's same with beauty that come with it can be just as much of a hindrance as it

00:23:19.300 can be a help that, you know, there are many people who are super intelligent who may like

00:23:23.400 overthink things, who may be bogged down by their...

00:23:26.460 I think that's an excuse the mentally lazy used. 0.54

00:23:29.520 Well, Simone, I am so lucky that I found an autistic woman to marry. 1.00

00:23:36.040 I'm so glad that you deal with me, that you don't look at me like I'm crazy when I attempt

00:23:42.680 to open doors with my butts in an elbow all the time and freak out and just stand in front

00:23:47.240 of them and wait for you to get them.

00:23:50.040 Thank you.

00:23:51.500 And all the other things, all the other things.

00:23:53.580 I know I'm not easy to live with, but...

00:23:56.320 Oh, I think so.

00:23:57.820 You're weird, but you're predictable.

00:23:59.700 Yeah, you never get upset about something I can't predict.

00:24:04.000 And isn't that nice?

00:24:06.200 Well, yeah, love you.

00:24:09.100 Thank you.

00:24:09.720 Bye, Malcolm.

Based Camp - June 17, 2023

Based Camp： Lizard People are Real and Simone is One of Them

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