Based Camp - Based Camp： Our Political Philosophy

00:00:00.000 would you like to know more hello malcolm hello simone it is wonderful to be here again with you

00:00:07.600 today i'm very excited we are going to talk today about our political philosophy and political

00:00:14.600 philosophy in general you actually changed the way that i look at politics and that i look at

00:00:19.520 the value of running for elected office and i think a lot of our views on government economy

00:00:27.300 culture have really shifted over the past few years so this should be fun to chat about check

00:00:31.640 in on this yeah so i think we're going to divide this into sort of three parts first we're going

00:00:36.580 to discuss sort of our economics because i think a lot of people they see politics as existing on

00:00:41.720 this spectrum of like economic conservatism to economic liberalism and then social conservatism

00:00:48.340 to social liberalism or progressivism because you know liberal you can mean classically liberal which

00:00:53.160 is basically conservative doesn't matter point being that's the way that people largely divide

00:00:58.100 this stuff however i think that it is wrong to think of things on these spectrums and if you look

00:01:03.340 at where we land politically it's nowhere on this spectrum for either our economic or social beliefs

00:01:10.600 and then there's other beliefs like where we think about international engagement and stuff like that

00:01:15.840 so first let's dive into our economics because i realize we've been doing a lot of videos on things

00:01:21.280 like communism and libertarianism and it could give people a misunderstanding of what we really

00:01:28.940 believe optimal economic policy looks like so first i'd say sort of our larger political spectrum we call

00:01:35.620 bull moose republicanism which means that we we take a lot of inspiration from the conservatism of

00:01:42.720 teddy roosevelt and and and what that meant and economically what that means is very unlike libertarians

00:01:50.900 but also very similar to libertarian philosophy in some way which is to say we do think that

00:01:57.580 government is intrinsically and always becomes evil largely regardless of what the intentions are

00:02:05.560 as a heavy governing body because it leads to inefficiency which leads to enormous evil an example

00:02:13.460 is something like the great leap forward in china right which during a period of five years

00:02:19.300 by some measurements led to more death just due to inefficiency than the entire period of slavery

00:02:27.960 in the united states which i i do is more like intentional evil and this is by some statistics not

00:02:32.140 by all it's only if you use like the most extreme data but that you could get anywhere close to that just

00:02:36.860 with inefficiency is shocking to me so i think that we can just say inefficiency and then people can be

00:02:42.160 like oh you must not really hate it no no no like inefficiency is is dramatically evil

00:02:47.300 it's a cancer and you talk about that in the pragmatist guide to governance you talk about

00:02:51.880 this bureaucratic inefficiency as literally being akin in fact it kind of it is an almost literally

00:02:58.640 analogous to cancer in organizations yeah in that you get governing institutions and if every year you

00:03:06.020 create 10 new governing institutions like say you're a city government or something like that

00:03:10.020 if just one of those institutions doesn't shut down when it's supposed to you know like a cell that

00:03:15.120 doesn't stop doing what it's doing when it's supposed to and thinks oh my job is just to

00:03:18.600 self-replicate my job is just to acquire more resources it will do that and normally a governance

00:03:23.480 structure will be good at getting rid of that you know we have things that kill the cancer in our

00:03:27.440 bodies but sometimes it'll hide it'll convince the governing structure it's actually useful it's

00:03:32.280 actually important but here is where we're really different from libertarians so while we see large

00:03:37.120 government as intrinsically evil we also see this is where we take a lot of inspiration from

00:03:41.680 teddy roosevelt trust busting is very important which is all large governing bodies be they

00:03:47.500 companies or governments are intrinsically evil and the larger they get the more of like a global

00:03:53.020 governance structure you get the more they will trend towards evil action so we are as antagonistic

00:04:00.040 towards a large institution like google or facebook as we are to the u.s governance system because

00:04:05.700 these institutions are no longer really affected by economic forces they begin to get ideas internally

00:04:12.320 that can create little cults around what they think is good and what they think is evil which can then be

00:04:17.460 used to justify almost any action and so i think that you do need some things to be handled by the

00:04:24.940 government and some things to be handled by company and one of the most important things that the

00:04:29.300 government needs to do is to prevent power from coagulating in any area while still working to

00:04:36.440 maintain international competitiveness and this is a big problem here because a huge aspects of a

00:04:42.580 country's international competitiveness is through these large companies and so you need to build very

00:04:50.200 unique i mean we wrote a whole book on this the pragmatist guide to governance very unique

00:04:54.860 governance systems to off play these two things what are your thoughts on on the economic side of

00:05:00.020 things simone would you have more nuance or no i mean i think this is actually pretty standard

00:05:05.740 government policy theory i mean when when i did that technology policy masters at cambridge like the

00:05:14.520 common thing was i could tell you were like oh do i actually mention cambridge am i gonna look like

00:05:18.880 am i gonna name drop this you you like swallowed it for a second there you're like i'm not gonna do

00:05:24.640 this yeah i just vomited but yeah i mean the very common thing is governments should intervene when

00:05:31.520 there's a market failure period and then otherwise they should not intervene but then of course the

00:05:36.300 question is what is the right way to intervene when there's a market failure and i think that's where

00:05:41.060 things start to fall apart you could think of a government as a steward of a healthy ecosystem

00:05:45.340 and if you see that your pond is starting to stagnate and build a monoculture you know if

00:05:50.120 it's being overcome by a certain type of scum maybe you need to aerate the pond better maybe you need to

00:05:55.020 make sure that water is flowing through it better etc so this is it is about stewardship of systems

00:05:59.720 and ensuring a diverse ecosystem a functioning ecosystem an evolving ecosystem and a sustainable

00:06:05.720 ecosystem so you can look at it i mean i think another part of our sort of bull moose style republicanism

00:06:11.060 is our views towards conservationism which obviously teddy roosevelt was very famous for

00:06:16.400 and i think if you look at the existing environmentalist movement i largely disagree

00:06:22.120 with it i think that the way that they are approaching climate change and stuff like that

00:06:26.540 is not really data-driven in a way that is just really damaging so i mean the statistic we always

00:06:32.840 come to here is that if you look at the covid period where no one could drive cars

00:06:38.240 no one could fly planes like the world shut down to some extent i mean some people could but it was

00:06:43.160 huge a huge change in everyone's everyday life and we only just met the incremental change in carbon

00:06:50.340 release we would need to cumulatively make on top of that every year for like the next 15 years

00:06:56.200 to have a dent in climate change what that showed me is that any sort of change that is pushed as a

00:07:03.940 policy or something like that is always unrealistic anyone who's looking at the data right now could

00:07:09.120 see that that means the solution needs to be technological in in origin i'm wondering what

00:07:14.600 your thoughts on on that aspect of this are simone having started in the climate change industry because

00:07:19.420 you did yeah i mean i i just well i think the bigger problem with the climate change industry is that

00:07:25.960 it has become focused on signaling and not solving the problem because the problem can't be solved now i mean

00:07:31.580 we have to accept the fact that climate change is going to happen it's not something that we can

00:07:36.800 stop and now that what we need to do is to plan around it which is exactly the approach that we've

00:07:41.060 taken to advocacy around demographic collapse it's going to happen let's make sure it happens in as

00:07:46.600 least damaging of a way as possible and yeah with these things like ai it will transform human

00:07:52.600 culture yeah however it's going to happen no matter what so we have to plan around it demographic

00:07:57.080 collapse will transform human culture same with climate change it's it's it's real it will transform

00:08:01.100 human culture but there's really nothing we can do about it at this point and there yeah there was

00:08:05.960 anything we can do about it the institutions of power in our society have cared about this issue

00:08:10.700 deeply for a long time and taken really draconian action in relation to it but it was a tragedy of

00:08:16.720 the commons issue meaning everyone needed to cooperate and what we have learned is humans just

00:08:21.580 suck at those kinds of issues unless you live under a worldwide dictatorship which is almost certainly

00:08:26.980 worse and would eventually drift away from these issues but this is where it gets interesting

00:08:31.140 because we as a society have conflated climate change with conservationism we misunderstand that

00:08:39.980 conservationism can still have a role in conservative politics if we are talking about things like

00:08:46.660 endocrine disruptors which are demonizing our society that is a conservation issue that is an issue

00:08:52.820 around lowering pollutants in our environment however we need more nimble structures tied to this we don't

00:08:59.660 need these existing large bureaucracies slowing down innovation tied to this and i think it's possible to

00:09:06.500 build more nimble structures that are in some ways more strict than our existing structures and more

00:09:11.300 expansive and more actually looking at the science rather than ideologically motivated science while also

00:09:17.860 understanding that the rural spaces of america the wilds of america are important in maintaining our

00:09:25.700 traditional cultural values whether that is hunting which was always a huge motivator for conservationism for

00:09:32.500 teddy roosevelt and i think that when we look at real conservationism conservationism for the sake of

00:09:39.780 saying does it really mess up an environment to have a pipeline going through something no have 10 pipelines but 25% more

00:09:47.700 land under conservation obviously that's better but that doesn't fit the existing progressive

00:09:53.540 narrative so it's just a different approach towards conservationism which i think is more about preserving

00:09:59.860 our traditional culture as well as protecting individual americans from the effects of pollutants that

00:10:08.100 are permanently changing our biology and damaging to our larger health ecosystem well i think that's you know

00:10:15.540 what you said there in terms of nimble structures focused around solving things i think that that

00:10:20.260 also comes to another core element of our idealized utopian political philosophy which is one in which

00:10:26.180 we sort of support the concept of adhocracy rather than bureaucracy but just to say with it we we like the

00:10:31.540 idea of independent bodies and resources coalescing together to achieve something and then dissolving when

00:10:37.380 that's achieved so there's nothing permanent there's no reason for it to sustain itself there's no incentive for

00:10:42.260 it to try to survive or get more resources for itself because it is only there to achieve a certain

00:10:47.460 outcome but i think i came into our relationship and our working together politically with that view of

00:10:53.940 like basically bureaucracies are inherently broken there's no point in me getting involved with them i

00:11:01.220 should never get involved with government i should only try to enact difference through business which

00:11:05.380 is why i didn't study as an undergrad you know government or anything else i wanted to go straight into

00:11:10.980 business because i thought that's the way that you make an impact even when that was back when i was

00:11:15.860 an environmentalist like advocate i thought well in that environmental and business that's what i'm

00:11:19.860 going to do until i discovered that it was you know broken and people weren't doing it right but you

00:11:24.020 actually changed my view about the value of running for elected office of entering government influence

00:11:31.140 there and i'd love for you to talk a little bit more about your thoughts around the the role that

00:11:38.020 elected officials play when it would seem intuitively that there's no point to it because basically to

00:11:45.700 play the game you have to get so corrupt and you have to trade so many favors that ultimately from a

00:11:50.980 policy standpoint you can be kind of feckless it seems i'd love you for you to elaborate on this

00:11:56.740 um well i mean i think that that here the answer is is that you could often forget the actual size of the

00:12:02.660 us government and the impact it can have especially at the state level especially at the purple state

00:12:09.860 level where you know it's not just about ideology and you can actually look at solving things because

00:12:14.900 there is some balance between the two political parties and i think that's where there is a lot of

00:12:19.380 opportunity and also opportunity to move the overton window to some extent around ideas if we can move

00:12:27.780 that overton window if we can change the way things are done when you look at the things that

00:12:32.580 state controls like the education system what's being taught there regulation systems around things

00:12:38.180 like daycares and stuff like that like just about our daily lives and the issues we care about there's

00:12:42.580 a ton that can be done there and this brings me to sort of the final axis or another really important

00:12:48.500 axis of a person's political ideology which is their social politics and so a lot of people look at

00:12:55.300 our social politics and they are like you sound very socially progressive in many ways yet you seem to

00:13:02.020 hate most the social progressive side of the progressive party why is that and this is something

00:13:11.700 we talk a lot about the pragmatist guide to crafting religion and we go over it a lot but it has to do with

00:13:16.740 the way we sort of see societal forces right now as being sort of two core things you have this urban

00:13:23.860 monoculture which is progressivism to large extent and it didn't exist before the internet essentially

00:13:32.260 it's a virulent memetic set that begin to evolve like a super virus would evolve in a hospital when you

00:13:40.580 put all of these immunocompromised cultures together in super cities and on the internet and it began to

00:13:48.900 infest traditional movements and ideologies and hollow them out and then begin to wear them like

00:13:57.460 skin suits whether it's the traditional feminist movement or the traditional lgbt movement or the

00:14:03.540 traditional and even religious movements you know whether you're looking at progressive muslims or

00:14:09.780 progressive unitarian universalists i guess there's only progressive unitarian universalists now

00:14:14.100 or progressive jews or progressive catholics when you scratch beneath the surface of their

00:14:19.700 superficial traditions they often have very similar views about the world from morality to the direction

00:14:25.380 they think society should go to their views on gender to their views on sexuality to their views

00:14:31.300 on a woman's role in a family pretty much everything is the same now and this was not the case kids who

00:14:37.620 grew up with this don't understand this was not the case of democrats 40 years ago heavens they all had

00:14:46.660 different beliefs they were an alliance of different groups that had loosely aligned goals but there was

00:14:55.060 genuine diversity within the movement now there is so little ideological diversity when i contrast it with

00:15:04.420 what i see the new republican movement becoming the new conservative movement and conservative is

00:15:09.460 really the wrong word for it i call it more the anti-authoritarian movement and let's talk about

00:15:14.500 what this progressive hive mind is fighting for first so we can sort of define its goals it is fighting to

00:15:21.940 remove in the moment pain from our society specifically emotional pain it is optimized almost entirely

00:15:33.620 around uh a negative utilitarian framework where it sees people's lives is being predominated by

00:15:41.780 suffering and thus the happy emotions or the positive emotions that somebody feels in life can largely

00:15:48.180 be ignored the goal is all around how do we lessen suffering and you can see this in a lot of its

00:15:57.460 policies where they can seem or positions where they can seem really silly in the moment you're like

00:16:03.620 wait what like clearly something like the hayes movement you know the healthy at every size movement

00:16:08.660 which has good intentions but now has essentially within the university body become don't tell people

00:16:13.940 that being overweight is unhealthy because that causes emotional pain and that in the moment emotional

00:16:19.700 pain is worse than any long-term don't even do research that could show that because any long-term

00:16:25.700 implications of that research are worse than the in the moment and you see this around the way that it

00:16:32.020 judges whether any individual thing is good or bad does it cause does this fact does this faction

00:16:39.300 cause in the moment emotional pain to any sliver of society if it does then it should not be pursued

00:16:46.820 and it should not be disseminated and it should not be investigated and within a certain philosophical

00:16:52.740 framework within a negative utilitarianist view this is logical then you have the republican side what

00:16:58.420 they're really optimized around is preserving traditional and diverse cultural frameworks

00:17:06.500 into the future and all of the issues where they come to blows with the progressive movement often

00:17:13.700 most virulently today are where those two issues come to head do they feel like their kids

00:17:24.180 are being peeled away from them in the school system and if they do feel that how do they react to that

00:17:32.260 as a cultural movement which is of course really negatively because that's their entire modus operandi

00:17:37.380 preserve our traditions and our unique culture into the future now the the danger and i should say i

00:17:44.740 don't think the progressive individuals are in any way evil or bad people any more than you know your

00:17:52.100 average catholic was a bad person back when some european cultures were dominated by catholic monarchies

00:17:57.940 that were like really top down in the way they ran things and killed people because they had different

00:18:02.660 beliefs or tried to peel people's kids out or tried to mass convert people the same happened with

00:18:06.740 the protestant monarchies you know when they had total power they would often run that top down

00:18:11.940 often if you are in the culturally dominant faction you can begin to just conceive of every other way of

00:18:19.300 viewing the world as some sort of deplorable thing that needs to be erased and fixed and that your way of

00:18:27.220 seeing things is correct just obviously correct and their way of seeing things is obviously wrong

00:18:33.300 and so you look at the way that the progressive movement sees something like sexuality or gender

00:18:37.700 and they're just like no but this is the obviously correct way to see gender or sexuality yet if we

00:18:41.860 look historically there are plenty of traditionalist approaches to this that are very different whether

00:18:48.100 you're talking about the two-spirit people or like in traditional muslim culture where you know if

00:18:53.300 you're gay you are supposed to convert to become transgender because that is the way that you deal with

00:18:59.220 same-sex attraction and i'm not saying that any of these are right and wrong what i'm saying is that

00:19:05.140 from my cultural perspective what i believe is that we should allow children to deconvert out of their

00:19:11.780 parents tradition always we should have systems where children are at least aware that different options

00:19:18.980 exist which i think was the internet and broad technological access kids always do but we should never have

00:19:24.660 systematized conversion campaigns that are implemented by our government to make people aware of or even

00:19:35.380 worse convert them to the correct culture especially when that correct culture like i might be able to get

00:19:42.580 behind this large urban monoculture if it was functioning if it was able to motivate above repopulation

00:19:49.540 reproduction but it doesn't it survives by taking people taking children from these surrounding

00:19:55.780 healthy cultures and using it to replenish its ranks because it is unable to motivate its members to have

00:20:01.300 kids and the and you could just look at the statistics like the differential infertility rates are

00:20:06.900 astonishingly large it's like double when you're dealing with far or more than double like four times

00:20:12.500 when you're dealing with far conservative versus far progressive i have to look at the statistics

00:20:15.460 and this is astonishingly big and so what we fight for here is just the preservation our social

00:20:22.260 policies are the preservation of diverse cultural traditions and by that what we mean is families

00:20:28.260 should be able to send their kids to school or send their kids to daycare or send their kids to any

00:20:33.060 system with the understanding that that system won't see it as one of their mandates to erase that

00:20:38.820 parent's cultural traditions or anything that's different from mainstream society that that parent is

00:20:44.500 doing was in their household and this is also the way we see child rearing you know less interaction

00:20:49.220 from government forces that try to say this is the way you should raise your child and this is the way

00:20:53.380 you shouldn't raise your child and government may have some mandate there if the dominant monoculture

00:21:00.020 in our society wasn't so bad at motivating people to have kids because well it's not just about

00:21:04.900 which culture creates high birth rates it's about which culture creates higher rates of health both mental

00:21:11.140 and physical which we're really not seeing you know we're even seeing i think a little bit of

00:21:15.220 a slight decline in life expectancy in the united states that is that is very very thorough failure

00:21:20.900 what's that shocking statistic something like one in ten kids have thought about suicide in school in

00:21:25.140 the last year teen adolescent mental health right now is plummeting especially among women yeah this is

00:21:30.660 not a culture that is that is thriving by any measure as far as i can tell and it is it's thriving much

00:21:38.180 less than traditionalist cultures so you look since pew started doing recordings of statistics american

00:21:44.180 conservatives have been happier than american progressives by a dramatic margin and so if we

00:21:50.740 are looking i i do think that kids should always have the opportunity to leave their family's culture

00:21:56.500 when they come of age or when they start supporting themselves but if a person is saying i am going to take on

00:22:02.500 the cost and it is a huge cost in terms of emotional and financial effort to raise kids then that family

00:22:10.180 should be allowed to raise kids without feeling like those kids are constantly of risk of being

00:22:18.900 convinced to hate them whenever they let those kids leave their sight or that they're not allowed to raise

00:22:24.580 their kids in the style that they see as most appropriate and optimal for their kids but at the same time

00:22:30.660 we we want every child raised in any culture to have the freedom to leave that culture if they want

00:22:36.420 to so you know when they start supporting themselves when they start supporting themselves yeah so yeah i

00:22:42.180 think it is a nuanced issue but it doesn't you can add more leeway there so for example this is not

00:22:48.500 something that exists in our current society but it is something i would support if there were cultural

00:22:53.540 traditions uh like say a certain progressive cultural traditions that would fund places where kids could

00:23:00.340 go before they turned of age and they could go to those places and a cultural refugee camp for teens

00:23:06.500 yeah and they could live a progressive lifestyle fine but they would have to support that and they

00:23:13.540 would have to build that and there are some of those that exist and i support that what i don't support

00:23:18.420 is using the parents own money in terms of tax dollars to turn around and turn the public schools into

00:23:25.140 that that that is not ethical and so it's sort of a push for maximum genuine cultural diversity and

00:23:33.140 cultural experimentation yeah while also fighting against large-scale institutions well and you know

00:23:39.940 i think a big basis of a lot of our political philosophy is consent so exactly if something is

00:23:46.100 non-consensual i don't care what political spectrum it's on we're probably against it that's like the

00:23:52.180 easiest rule of thumb to to predict our political philosophy is there something non-consensual on

00:23:58.580 this okay then probably we don't support it well and consent applies with parents to their kids along

00:24:04.420 the way consent legally applies to parents to kids which is a a minor cannot consent to certain things

00:24:11.460 because we don't trust minors to consent to many things and and so ultimately we are okay with with

00:24:17.060 parents having a mandate there and if people think that kids shouldn't be raised in those

00:24:22.420 types of families well then they should have kids and raise them in different types of families

00:24:25.620 or find ways to support kids instead of just saying the government should support kids

00:24:30.420 because i think that and this is also where we're different for many conservative factions is

00:24:34.260 some conservative factions i just call them progressives in disguise they're just waiting until their

00:24:38.660 culture gains dominance at the state level so that they can force it on other people through the

00:24:44.260 government through the school system through books they get rid of in libraries through

00:24:50.900 anything like that and wherever that happens i see that as evil um you you should never be able to

00:24:56.100 enforce your culture on another person and to that extent those cultures are just fair weather fins right

00:25:01.460 now to us yes we are aligned in the conservative movement and we are really aligned in the conservative

00:25:06.020 movement right now and i think that this is something that the progressive movement is missing to a large

00:25:09.300 extent if you look at young conservatives you can look at the largest influencer in the young

00:25:14.180 conservative movement which was andrew tate you know last year number one influencer among jinsi

00:25:18.580 he converted to islam and what we saw was not outpourings of hate from the conservative christian

00:25:25.940 community they were like great this is better than the way things were before you know you have found

00:25:32.020 some religious tradition that you take inspiration from and what i think we're seeing here is an

00:25:39.380 increasing alliance across the conservative traditions from at least within the us this is less true in

00:25:46.100 in europe right now but i think we'll eventually see it there as well from the conservative muslims to

00:25:50.420 the conservative christians to the conservative jews to the conservative anything else which which is just

00:25:55.860 means that they have some connection to an intergenerational idea of cultural identity and i think that that's

00:26:03.460 really interesting to me and and a movement that i can get behind when i see this true cultural pluralism

00:26:10.180 of people with genuinely different beliefs about the world coming together and i actually think that

00:26:15.860 this is one of the reasons we're going to see a major shift towards the conservative movement going

00:26:19.540 forwards if you look at the immigrant populations in many of these countries they do align much more with

00:26:27.300 this conservative ideology than they align with any of the progressive social ideologies and so the only

00:26:35.300 advantage is in the economic front often but even there many of them are much more conservative

00:26:40.980 economically and i do think that it is possible for the conservative party to begin to shift its ideas

00:26:47.140 around immigration if you look at the way the younger conservative party sees the world and by that what i mean

00:26:53.700 is no longer do we live in a world where the game is your country versus other countries it is your

00:26:59.380 culture versus other cultures which is one of the reasons we fight for cultural diversity because

00:27:03.620 we're a minority culture so if the infection gains power they'll try to erase us but if the progressives

00:27:09.140 gain power they'll try to erase us as well so we benefit from ensuring this this level of cultural

00:27:15.540 diversity but i think that the conservative factions because they're all now minorities

00:27:19.380 they also benefit from trying to encourage cultural diversity if the game is no longer

00:27:28.180 ensure that my country dominates other countries but instead ensure that my country is a safe place

00:27:35.860 for people who are different in the way that i am different right would you add to any of that or elaborate

00:27:41.860 on it no i mean i would just say i also think that those environments that are more pluralistic will be

00:27:48.100 the most healthy you're not going to see a competitive advantage hold in any environment

00:27:54.420 that doesn't allow for disagreeing groups to bounce ideas off each other because that is how they sharpen

00:28:00.900 each other and we see this in a bunch of different places more pluralistic cross-pollinated cultures and

00:28:08.020 nations are sharper they have a competitive advantage not just from a birth rate perspective which we see

00:28:15.380 we think we see but also from an economic perspective well if you talk about the birth rate thing so if

00:28:21.300 you look individually like if you're looking at this from the perspective of my culture survives into

00:28:25.460 the future you look at this old mindset the mindset that putin's running off of which is just completely

00:28:31.140 stupid his country already had a very low fertility rate they're out there killing other people who are

00:28:36.820 culturally very similar to them and that also had a very low birth rate basically deleting an entire

00:28:43.700 generation in both countries it's going to be devastating to that cultural group in the long

00:28:48.740 run they basically have no shot and they're already doing very poorly sort of in economic scenarios

00:28:53.060 where if you look at the world more broadly you look at the people who have won this game who say okay

00:28:58.580 i want to create like one ethnicity one culture one country they have incredibly low fertility rates

00:29:05.300 these are the groups that are going to disappear you look at countries like korea right that have done this

00:29:09.940 and if you look at the list of prosperous countries with low fertility rates the vast majority of the

00:29:15.380 countries on those lists are essentially monocultures whereas if you look at the countries that have been

00:29:20.580 most resistant to prosperity induced fertility collapse like the united states like israel they are some

00:29:25.700 of the most diverse cross-pollinated cultural groups in the world and it is better for every group

00:29:33.700 in that pluralistic ecosystem and now that the world's on hard mode with ai girlfriends and being

00:29:39.620 able to lose yourself in online environments you really need to sharpen yourself you cannot afford

00:29:46.020 this type of cultural isolationism that maybe used to make sense in the old world order exactly

00:29:53.780 yeah any culture or government that is coercive that tries to homogenize everything is ultimately

00:30:00.660 going to extinguish even itself which i think is very interesting so if you are very xenophobic if

00:30:06.020 you are very fascist or whatever it's oddly in your best interest and not to try to convert everyone

00:30:12.660 it's oddly in your best interest not to be coercive because in the end you are only shooting yourself in

00:30:18.100 the foot mm-hmm yeah but you know i was talking about world orders i actually think we talk about this

00:30:22.980 concept of a new world order to any extent not the conspiracy theory but the idea that the world is now

00:30:27.780 revolving around a new sort of axis where the world's power structures used to be in a fight

00:30:33.540 between communism and capitalism and i no longer think that's the debate that anyone's having anymore

00:30:38.980 now it's around independent cultural sovereignty versus globalism and i think that that is the new

00:30:47.220 axis that the world is tilting around but the globalist faction has the majority of power at this point

00:30:52.900 and they have essentially won we are living in a post-globalist world and that now that they've

00:31:00.900 won i think they have created cultural pressures that they didn't anticipate which are vastly changing

00:31:06.660 the game for everyone and that if we still want to live in a pluralistic future the the globalists are your

00:31:13.300 enemy if you want a world of genuine diversity diversity of ideas diversity of approaches diversity of ways of

00:31:20.900 of ways of seeing things then it's important to recognize that the game has changed and this isn't

00:31:28.580 the same game that anyone was playing and no one in power at least is really fighting for communism or

00:31:33.700 capitalism anymore it's cultural sovereignty or globalism that's the only game and then it's different

00:31:38.180 levels of bureaucracy at the top are you saying that people aren't fighting for socialism

00:31:42.980 slash communism because anyone who is is more just involved in some kind of aesthetic debate and just trying to

00:31:49.620 not do work because i still feel like that's a big no no no ground level people are fighting for this

00:31:54.100 stuff but none of them have positions of power anymore okay so you mean among those with power

00:31:57.780 and agency in the world the fight is becoming increasingly about sovereignty versus globalism

00:32:03.220 yes okay interesting yeah that rings fairly true i like it yeah well and it's it's it's it's

00:32:11.700 these people are still arguing but they are increasingly isolated to increasingly pointless places online and in

00:32:18.980 society and that the people in positions of power might use arguments around things like socialism or

00:32:27.140 communism to try to expand the size of sort of the larger globalist government framework or sort of the

00:32:35.220 monocultures reach but outside of that i don't think that there is any real push for those things anymore

00:32:43.220 outside of at the level of like crazy isolated dictators interesting well and maybe even they

00:32:49.060 aren't really fighting for it so that's it yeah huh is there anything you would add or is that in a

00:32:55.220 nutshell no no yes it's just bull moose bull moose republicanism but it is i wish it were like rough

00:33:00.900 rider republicism but that sounds better rough riders right or republicanism yes you know very offensive

00:33:06.420 group i think by today's standards but i do love his sort of martial masculine idea that came

00:33:13.060 from this very nerdy guy because he was an ultra nerd who had these almost childlike visions of

00:33:22.100 masculinity that i think aligns with the existing republican party and and i do think when you look

00:33:26.580 at the republican base today the core thing that unites them is this anti-fascist tendency they just

00:33:34.260 don't want people reaching into their daily lives and and telling them how to raise their kids how their

00:33:42.500 cultures should work and the correct way to to operate their cultures and i think that because

00:33:49.060 of that i can really sympathize and find allegiance with those factions let's build those ties i love

00:33:56.500 hearing you talk about these things this is fun thank you malcolm i love you gorgeous i'm looking forward to

00:34:02.420 our next conversation i had none of these ideas without her she talked to me through all this and helping her

00:34:09.060 sort of break her brainwashing to an extent was a thing for me i'd love to talk about that next

00:34:15.940 then let's do it and we'll see you on the flip side friend all right

Based Camp - May 14, 2023

Based Camp： Our Political Philosophy

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