Based Camp - Based Camp： Why Life Extension is Evil

00:00:00.000 would you like to know more hello malcolm hello simone it is wonderful to be here with you today

00:00:06.460 what are we talking about on a scale of one to ten how excited are you to die

00:00:12.600 today we will talk about life extension mortality and immortality and i think it's a uniquely fun

00:00:24.780 conversation for both of us because we have a view that deviates from the typical intuition that

00:00:31.540 people have about mortality because we are genuinely not in favor of life extension we're in

00:00:39.900 favor of health span expansion so we like the idea of having longer productive years longer years when

00:00:47.180 our bodies are fully functioning both from a reproductive but also mental standpoint we believe

00:00:52.680 in longer periods when people are able to work and contribute to society 100 what we aren't in

00:00:58.680 favor of is indefinite life and there are some very concrete reasons why we hold that near indefinance

00:01:04.120 let's say 500 years yeah like we're okay we're okay with some life extension but living forever

00:01:12.780 causes some serious problems and i think people don't realize that and i would also point out that

00:01:17.960 we aren't against this at a government level like i would not promote anyone limiting access to this

00:01:25.120 technology we are against it at a family and cultural level and i think we think that our family will

00:01:32.900 always be better off if we focus on intergenerational improvement instead of intra-generational improvement

00:01:42.560 yeah well i think you make a really important point here though is that with this and pretty much every

00:01:48.100 other stance on what people do with their bodies and a whole lot more for that matter we may have our

00:01:54.700 own stances on what we think is best for us but we think that any stance that is coercive or that would

00:02:01.100 impose rules or restrictions on other people especially against their will that is the height of evil

00:02:07.780 absolutely the height of evil one of the reasons actually why we don't like life extension

00:02:13.540 philosophically speaking is that we actually think that it puts more people in positions where they will

00:02:18.680 want to impose their will on others against their consent i would say that even goes to the core of why we

00:02:24.320 don't like life extension but go on so there's a growing antagonism was in the tech

00:02:30.880 accelerationist communities between the life extensionists and the pronatalist faction it

00:02:38.420 surprises a lot of people that there is such such a level of antagonism but it makes sense

00:02:43.820 in that really only one of the factions can win at the end of the day if all the technology that we

00:02:50.660 both hope is realized the life extensionist faction there would just be too many people in the world if no one

00:02:55.660 ever died and so they think they can solve the problem of falling fertility rates by extending

00:03:01.400 the lifespan of the existing people whereas if you talk about prenatalism as a philosophy is often

00:03:08.220 predominated by the idea that it is the height of arrogance to think that you are the cumulative

00:03:14.660 of all human cultural and evolutionary improvement that is to me to believe that you are a superior

00:03:25.200 race like you think that you can't do better than who you are and so we believe very strongly in okay

00:03:32.260 creating another generation but the problem is there is always a vested advantage that people have

00:03:39.940 if they have been in the system for longer if you look at the world today this is why you often have

00:03:46.260 these old stogy people in positions of power it's why when you look at the congress and the senate and 1.00

00:03:50.660 the president it's increasingly an aging demographic do you really want these people living forever do you 0.99

00:03:58.220 really want the boomers potentially control human civilization for the rest of human civilization 1.00

00:04:04.800 they might be doing that whether or not we have life extension if they screw up enough

00:04:09.360 the way we view life extensionists versus non-life extensionists

00:04:15.200 is that they are individuals if their job is to maintain an ancient athenian fleet

00:04:23.160 their plan to do that is to take every board of the fleet dip it in resin have it stay exactly the way it

00:04:31.860 is for five thousand years whereas the intergenerational improvement people they see the job is to

00:04:39.100 regularly replace the ships with new models and what that means is that when you go 500 years into the

00:04:45.100 future one is a fleet of athenian warships and the other is a modern war flea with submarines and

00:04:52.300 aircraft carriers and yeah so what you're missing is what a life extensionist would say is oh you're

00:05:00.680 implying that i who plans to live forever will not be iteratively improving myself i will be improving

00:05:08.980 my biology i will be improving my mind but the problem with that kind of stance is ultimately if that's

00:05:16.000 what you're doing you are changing so much that ultimately biologically and mimetically you will not

00:05:22.140 be the same person we are not for the most part the same people we were when we were five years old

00:05:27.700 that person is long gone and so the idea that you wouldn't just follow a far more efficient pathway

00:05:33.600 and have kids or pass on your ideas to other people and let those ideas strengthen themselves 0.61

00:05:40.640 through different perspectives and different bodies is ridiculous like why would you why would

00:05:46.400 you undergo these crazy interventions to somehow iteratively improve technically in the same body or

00:05:53.120 technically in a discontinued string when you could just do the system that has worked i love that

00:05:59.120 point so much and so to use the analogy i was using before it would be like the person who's no i'm not

00:06:05.020 dipping all the boards in resin what i'm doing is like technologically upgrading the ships and everything

00:06:09.400 like that so in 500 years the ship that used to be a trireme will now be a modern submarine or an

00:06:16.040 aircraft carrier exactly your point being so you've functionally done nothing you haven't preserved

00:06:20.820 anything so why are you so afraid to give another generation a shot and i think the answer is

00:06:26.640 transparent the answer is that they don't really plan to change that much they want to maintain

00:06:33.040 some level of continuity with who they are today and if we look historically generations just don't

00:06:38.560 do that people very rarely after and i don't expect to myself after i'm 50 or 60 do i really expect

00:06:46.260 myself to change or update my beliefs that much no hold on we actually we have plans for that like

00:06:52.060 we plan for example when we feel like we are starting to memetically and mentally ossify that's

00:06:58.080 when we go hard on psychedelics because that's when the gullibility versus open-mindedness trade-off

00:07:04.220 starts to be worth it for us and when in which we're okay with being a little bit more gullible

00:07:09.740 absolutely and i think there are ways around this and this is one of the things that life

00:07:16.120 extensionists will say they'll say you extend young age until later in life people's mental

00:07:21.860 ossification won't happen in the way it happens with existing people today and i think that is a

00:07:27.560 hypothesis but i think we will find that hypothesis is wrong as soon as life extension is invented and i'd

00:07:34.060 actually love it if life extensionists could take a stand if it turns out that people don't actually

00:07:38.620 update their beliefs that much when they're able to stay young for longer do you then say okay in

00:07:45.080 that scenario life extension is bad and we should stop it and the answer is no you don't because you

00:07:50.040 don't really believe that but welcome you're focusing on the wrong thing completely this is not about

00:07:55.340 mental ossification this is about adverse incentives the primary reason why life extension is

00:08:02.560 non-beneficial to populations is the cumulative power wealth and advantages that someone gains with

00:08:10.560 time so the more you are alive the longer you are alive especially if you're successful and wealthy

00:08:16.600 enough to afford life extension which let's be clear this is something that only the wealthy are

00:08:21.560 going to be able to afford we're seeing in the united states we're seeing false economy i don't

00:08:26.340 we're seeing lifespan fall down um right now i think only if you are wealthy and educated let's say

00:08:32.420 okay let's say that anyone's able to do it but the longer you are living the more you have to defend

00:08:38.960 the more stuff you have the more incentive you have to take what you've built and keep it so now

00:08:46.100 it's you versus a bunch of other people who might supplant you who might take you know things you

00:08:51.740 want who might use up resources that you want access to who might take attention that you want

00:08:55.760 who might erode your political influence what are you going to do you are going to try to shut them

00:09:01.340 out the reason why we have a gerontocracy now is that the people who are in power now have been

00:09:07.160 defending their positions of power they're not letting new people come in and take their place and when you

00:09:13.040 have life extension you have people who are very strongly incentivized to prevent younger generations

00:09:18.800 new ideas new perspectives people also who very importantly have grown up in the new modern world

00:09:25.780 of that time and know better than those who grew up in a different world what that new world needs

00:09:30.880 those people are being kept out of positions of power and influence they're being prevented from

00:09:35.940 building new solutions and that is extremely dangerous to human society so as much as i am against

00:09:42.280 coercive measures to stop people from doing what they want to with their bodies i do think that

00:09:47.620 society on the whole is made much weaker if you have a ruling class of very old people i think that's a 1.00

00:09:55.020 really excellent point and i want to expand on it because i think a lot of people can look at this

00:09:59.920 and they're like that's not intrinsically true but it is intrinsically true if you have built your power

00:10:04.720 within an existing social or economic system you built your wealth within an existing social or economic

00:10:10.720 system you lose if that system changes you are always and intrinsically or almost always intrinsically

00:10:20.020 motivated to prevent improvement of the social and economic systems within which you reside whereas

00:10:27.120 the youth are always motivated to change those systems because they benefit most from those changes and that is

00:10:35.880 what allows for civilizational advancement in addition when people say you'll be able to stay mentally

00:10:43.480 younger forever that is true but to simone's point you never get to grow up again within the new

00:10:52.380 iterative social system that has been built you can really only have one set of formative years one set

00:11:00.280 of five to the age of 15 you might be able to stay 20 forever but you're not going to want to

00:11:07.180 increasingly revert to the age of five and then start over again i don't think that's a society that any

00:11:11.760 life extensionist is looking to create when we see the way that our kids are engaging with technology

00:11:18.640 like ai it gives them a perspective of ai that we could never replicate in ourselves even if i was able to

00:11:26.800 stay 20 forever a five-year-old growing up alongside ai is going to have an understanding for how that

00:11:34.660 technology can change our society that a permanent 20-year-old vampire person is never going to

00:11:42.300 and when you prevent this intergenerational baton passing of power

00:11:50.920 what you're really preventing is societal advancement and social experimentation and the

00:11:59.160 motivation for those things at the structural level of society yeah and what we've seen a lot of

00:12:06.180 people say on the life extension side because i'm trying to present their arguments as best i can

00:12:11.040 it's not fair for us to just straw man them is okay i will admit that maybe we're not going to

00:12:18.280 completely memetically and biologically replace ourselves the whole point of life extension is we

00:12:22.680 want to keep some element of ourselves as continuous okay grant that and we also admit that being very old

00:12:29.760 will lead to some adverse incentives that people will be incentivized to accumulate power accumulate

00:12:34.180 influence and entrench themselves in these strongholds of power and prevent new generations from coming

00:12:39.540 into influence things but don't worry we'll just create laws that force essentially term limits and

00:12:46.840 positions of power or after a certain number of years you have to give all your wealth to the next

00:12:51.400 generation and i think it's very naive to hold those views because when has that ever worked when

00:13:00.420 has power ever been passed to people and those people promise oh yeah no we promise this is just

00:13:07.100 temporary maybe there's some precedent for it but yeah

00:13:11.680 it's really hard to imagine i'm even trying to think of maybe there's some kind of

00:13:18.120 blockchain connected to whatever like life extension biology they have where if literally

00:13:25.840 their wealth doesn't transfer out of a certain account by a certain age then like their biological

00:13:32.320 anti-aging thing turns off but they would find a way around that you know they would find a way to

00:13:38.460 create shell companies that hold the money i just it's the incentives are too strong and that's the

00:13:46.320 those are the only arguments that i've seen that come close to defending this position and also i just

00:13:52.540 can't understand how somebody could think it's better than the system we have now especially with

00:13:58.520 the genetic changes that are happening in that system so when you have a kid you know a lot of that

00:14:04.140 kids sociological profiles influenced by your genetic makeup but you're getting to choose

00:14:08.740 anyone you want in the world to because unless you think you're perfect which i don't i chose a

00:14:16.340 partner based on somebody who filled the flaws that i felt in myself so i get to one mix my dna

00:14:22.660 with anyone i was able to convince to marry me in the world the person who is infinitely better than me

00:14:27.860 and then i get to have this next iteration of myself give them any childhood i want to give them

00:14:33.620 hopefully give them access to a better education than i had access to prevent them from having any

00:14:39.060 of the hang-ups that i may have developed in my own childhood by giving them this better childhood

00:14:43.720 and then better than all that throughout their childhood they get the chance to say hey dad

00:14:50.940 this thing that you've come to believe is wrong they are not affected by my biases

00:14:56.800 and one of the great things about research into biases that you see over and over again is knowing

00:15:04.500 that you have biases does not prevent them from affecting you knowing that something is like a

00:15:10.840 psychological trick in your brain doesn't make you immune to it and so you have all these rationalists

00:15:15.680 and aaa people who are like oh i've studied all the way people come up with biases and it's like

00:15:19.740 yeah but did you also study that knowledge doesn't protect you from those biases hardly at all because

00:15:23.680 that's in the research as well what protects you from them is the intergenerational way

00:15:28.580 that we transfer identity which is to say you're not clasping too hard to identity and i i think this

00:15:36.140 is another really important thing that you are not afraid of death you understand that your life

00:15:42.340 is to build a better future for the next and for future generations

00:15:47.160 that you have a purpose with this life to prepare the future generations to be better than you

00:15:54.040 and and to understand and have the humility to understand that i will never be able to improve

00:16:00.580 on myself as much as my kids can because i can't see my own flaws in the same way that someone you

00:16:07.160 tried to raise can see your flaws and my god we all see our parents flaws

00:16:10.580 yeah we also see ourselves becoming our parents which is terrifying so i don't know but i think a lot

00:16:20.800 of it comes down to how we perceive the concept of self and when you choose to define yourself

00:16:27.520 more broadly by your your family or your community or your children whatever it might be

00:16:36.180 that is where you become less afraid of death and i wonder if we were to pull and i'm sure people

00:16:41.760 have actually be fun to look at this research communities that are more family oriented like

00:16:46.280 in latin america there's so much more identification with family i am my family we are we are together

00:16:51.880 if you were to compare interest in life extension across those cultures i think you would see

00:16:57.860 especially very atomized cultures that are highly individualistic as being the most interested

00:17:04.300 in life extension because they don't see their descendants as them they don't see their family

00:17:09.320 members as them they don't see their culture as them they don't see their religions as them if they

00:17:13.180 have religions at all so the only thing they can cling to is themselves and so i think in the end life 0.85

00:17:19.200 extension is more it reveals more about how someone views themselves than it reveals about like their

00:17:25.420 interest in technology or their interest in the future or their interest even in being in the future

00:17:30.200 i think that you and i feel just as connected to the future and just as excited about the future a

00:17:37.540 thousand years on as someone in the life extension community who genuinely believes that they the

00:17:44.220 continuous they will exist in that future the great thing about advancement in ai and stuff like that is

00:17:50.420 our descendants it doesn't mean that we really totally die when we die if our descendants really wanted

00:17:57.300 to ask for any sort of advice we had to give them they could just ask an ai model trained on our books

00:18:01.540 or depending on how people end up getting digitized with computers and stuff in the future

00:18:06.060 you don't lose really information when people die you lose this like broad sense of information and broad

00:18:14.980 sense of perspective but hopefully if they had something useful to say and they were smart they found a way to

00:18:20.320 condense that information into something that could be passed forward into future generations

00:18:23.760 but i think realistically what we have to say probably won't matter to future generations that

00:18:29.940 much how much do you care to ask your great great grandparents about what you should do today or where

00:18:35.300 society should go their world perspective was so different from ours why are we trying to ossify that

00:18:41.620 yeah and there's there's another part of it too which i think is how we perceive

00:18:48.500 our lives now like i see every day as a different existence and we've talked about this before like i sort

00:18:58.040 of see every iteration of myself as a standalone extremely ephemeral blip of consciousness that is

00:19:06.040 going to disappear and be replaced with time and every new experience every cell that is sloughed off and a

00:19:13.540 new one that is regenerated that is a death and a new beginning and the person that i was even five

00:19:20.080 years ago like i we can go back and look at old youtube videos of us talking and i feel like i'm

00:19:25.460 looking at a complete stranger i am definitely not the same person and so to me even if i didn't have

00:19:33.240 this view about being part of a long unbroken chain of ancestors and descendants that i'm excited to be a

00:19:39.060 part of i think i would still see life extension as a bit of a farce because even within a normal

00:19:46.500 human's lifespan totally in the absence of any technological intervention there is constant

00:19:52.620 death and rebirth and we are definitely not the same people we are definitely not an unbroken chain

00:19:57.300 so this idea that somehow we ever could be it's chasing after something entirely impossible when this

00:20:04.720 comes to how you see continuation or the existence of a thing and the ship as easiest example is one

00:20:09.480 we always used to love to use here which is you have this old wooden trireme traveling around the

00:20:14.240 mediterranean and boards keep rotting and it keeps replacing them with new boards and then people ask

00:20:20.300 okay at the end of the journey it's all new boards is it the same ship and then they ask okay suppose

00:20:24.960 somebody had been following the ship of ccs and taking all the boards that were thrown overboard

00:20:28.260 and then rebuilt an exact copy of that ship with those boards now which is the real ship

00:20:32.960 and your body is doing this with memories with cells with perceptions the real answer is it depends on

00:20:39.520 which definition you've used for continuation which is the real ship and to some extent it doesn't matter

00:20:43.960 which is the quote unquote real ship right things change iteratively over time yeah then the question

00:20:50.900 becomes okay how do you really define the ship of theses the ship of theses is defined by its purpose

00:20:57.400 why it exists a thing to move people in the same way that fleet was defined by its purpose and that

00:21:04.140 the person who decided to preserve every aspect of the fleet instead of iteratively improve it over

00:21:09.360 generations defeated the purpose of the fleet by trying to maintain a sense of continuity within it

00:21:16.360 and it's the same with identity why do you exist you exist to create a more prosperous future for our

00:21:25.300 species your existence is defined not by your ability to indulge in the self but by your ability to

00:21:34.460 contribute to the collective human tradition and identity and that is always best done through

00:21:41.780 intergenerational improvement in the same way that the ship of theses as soon as you let go of the idea

00:21:49.000 that who you are the continuous entity really exists in any meaningful context to begin with

00:21:54.900 then you can say oh then what i am is my purpose and if what i am is my purpose do i better serve that

00:22:03.940 purpose by living for a really long time or do i better serve that purpose through intergenerational

00:22:09.280 identity transfer yeah or through creating a new culture or through creating a business or fueling a

00:22:17.880 political movement if what we're describing doesn't feel intuitive to you at all what i would encourage

00:22:23.180 you to do if you're watching this or listening to this is write yourself a letter in the future or

00:22:29.600 leave yourself a voice memo for the future so all the time i do this all the time it's really fun i think

00:22:35.800 the whole like my sense of continuous identity fell apart the first time i did this to myself and it was a

00:22:42.480 school exercise in our freshman year of i don't know actually it was in middle school it's like when i was 13

00:22:49.640 years old we were supposed to write a letter to ourselves that we would open just as we were about to

00:22:55.260 graduate from high school and either enter the career world or go to college and reading letter from

00:23:01.620 myself around 10 years in the past made me realize just how much i really wasn't the same person anymore

00:23:08.900 and i could understand the interests of that person i could understand that we were both in the same

00:23:15.180 kind of boat and interested in a lot of the same aims which of course was selfish betterment right oh

00:23:20.480 i hope these things for myself and i hope those things for myself we just weren't the same person so

00:23:24.640 try doing that like honestly a voice memo a letter a video you will find that this may change the way that

00:23:31.620 you view life extension and i honestly wish i could model the other side better i don't like when we

00:23:37.040 have just a sort of one-sided it's more they think that they can always do better for themselves i can

00:23:43.280 continue to improve and the more time i have the better i can make things and also free humans from

00:23:47.900 the suffering of death death to i i think people with a limited perspective is the worst thing that

00:23:53.440 can happen to a human and i think that the foregoing of sort of self-identity as something that's

00:24:01.280 meaningful was a really big shift for me that i didn't make fully until meeting you simone and it was one of

00:24:07.020 the big changes that you had on me i completely shed my identity when we married and that gave me

00:24:12.380 the opportunity to really redefine for myself and my family what identity means and the way that we see

00:24:21.860 it culturally our family the way we raise our kids seeing it the way that we see it ourselves

00:24:25.780 is that when you are young you are at the lowest level of identity which is to be an individual

00:24:34.060 and that is the weakest most pathetic form of identity then as you get older you get married

00:24:42.840 and you become something more you become a partnership and your identity combines with

00:24:48.500 another person and i think this is something that people we in emails we often get each other's emails

00:24:53.660 and we interchangeably use each other's names and it's the same with our twitter account and the

00:24:57.900 same with our authorship and the same as the way we do ceoship because we really consider ourselves

00:25:02.420 as two faces of the same identity in a very meaningful sense that i think other people

00:25:07.320 may underestimate and then you become a family which is a different form of identity you move away from

00:25:14.840 even the idea of a partnership and you become a guide to something bigger but without controlling or

00:25:22.200 directly influencing that thing and then you pass on to the highest form of identity

00:25:27.840 identity which is to be a memory and the impact you had on your family and society

00:25:33.380 so life is a transition away from being trapped in this singular meat shell

00:25:39.500 to being a more expansive concept and it is almost like a being foridianly trapped in a early stage of

00:25:50.420 development from the perspective of our family culture to genuinely fear your own death outside of

00:25:57.840 your own death happening before you can complete what you wanted to complete in life

00:26:02.920 and that is something i fear constantly but that fear goes away with everything i complete every kid i have

00:26:08.980 every time i put together some aspect of their education system so it can function even after i die

00:26:14.460 another one of our books that we put together so that they would have some guidance if we died

00:26:19.240 i see it as a list of tasks i have to do before i am free to die without consequences

00:26:26.520 yeah it's but it's also very i think very comforting i think it's difficult and scary to be afraid of death

00:26:34.100 i wouldn't even say it's like an important ending i would just say it's almost ridiculous

00:26:38.860 the transition in a cycle it's not even that much of a transition it's just it's it's irrelevant

00:26:44.380 um it is just it is something but i think that's also folds into our mechanistic view of the universe

00:26:52.400 that everything that will happen has already happened and everything that has happened is

00:26:56.160 happening that'd be a fun one to talk about in a video in the near future

00:26:59.220 germanism yeah with that kind of view it's weird to be afraid of any single moment that may

00:27:06.940 have happened or that has happened and i guess that view combined with our sense of self

00:27:12.480 makes us very unafraid of that fleeting nature of life but what i think is also interesting

00:27:19.280 is that despite that you very much struggle like many ambitious people do with what you've accomplished

00:27:27.760 so far in your life like i think you are it's a tickle clock you're very yeah you're very aware of

00:27:33.480 your mortality i'm very aware of my mortality i'm more concerned about but if i need to play

00:27:39.220 with cheat codes to complete the things that i want to complete then maybe i'm not good enough

00:27:43.600 to properly judge what needs to be completed yeah yeah but so you think you like the artificial

00:27:51.840 we don't have to say artificial but you like the constraint you think that it's useful because you find

00:27:57.440 it motivating i guess there is that studies have found that when people are given a deadline

00:28:01.100 when people every person could enact everything they wanted to upon the world there's a bunch of

00:28:06.120 people with different hypotheses about what's best for the future of our species and everything like

00:28:09.920 that if everyone could just enact whatever they wanted to there would be a lot of conflicting things

00:28:16.720 so to an extent it's a competition of ideas and cultures to say that you get this sort of limited

00:28:22.920 time here very limited time here and if your ideas are good presumably you will be more effective

00:28:30.040 at seeing them enacted on the world or within your family in the same way that if we aren't creating

00:28:35.620 a good culture for our kids they can leave it and that's a beautiful thing that's a great thing about

00:28:40.620 intergenerationalism yeah i also think that studies have shown that when you give someone two weeks to

00:28:49.380 complete a project they complete it in two weeks when you give them two years to complete the exactly

00:28:54.460 same project they take two years so yeah having infinite time doesn't necessarily help you if

00:29:01.640 anything it delays society's receipt of your hard work that's a really interesting point i just noticed

00:29:07.600 all of my friends who are life extensionists after they became art at life extensionists they have

00:29:13.500 achieved almost nothing in their lives oh no interesting oh a number of them were successful ceos

00:29:19.600 before they jumped on the life extension train but after they jumped on the life extension train very

00:29:24.980 few of them have started successful companies or movements or ideologies do you think the assumption

00:29:31.780 is i'll just create that after i figured out life extension it's like that thing with genies my first wish

00:29:37.380 is to get infinite more wishes yeah and then your wishes get terrible

00:29:41.480 yeah because when you only have three wishes you've got to make them count

00:29:45.800 yeah interesting well i love chatting with you simone and i love that you have enlightened me so

00:29:51.660 much on this topic because this is one of the areas where you have really influenced my world

00:29:55.380 perspective and it was not like this before i was very much a life extensionist sort of person before

00:29:59.920 meeting you and i pulled you into the death cult you uplifted me into the death cult

00:30:05.100 um but the death cult will win because these crusty i mean if it's mortals versus immortals we're not

00:30:12.780 the mortals the mortals will always win because we're not afraid of change we're not afraid of death

00:30:17.840 and they are and it's fundamentally their fears that limit them i love that and and i mean it's also

00:30:27.420 fundamentally supremacist movements always fail they think they're better than anything that they could

00:30:34.020 create and to me that is the the height of arrogance um and and and it is that arrogance

00:30:42.820 that will blind them and why the mortals will always crush them then may we burn bright and die young 0.68

00:30:51.760 but live to speak another day the flame that burns half as bright burns half as long

00:30:57.260 twice as bright burns that the flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long

00:31:03.020 beautiful that's blade runner he says that in that anyway i love that note you're amazing i love you too

00:31:12.820 i love you too

Based Camp - May 24, 2023

Based Camp： Why Life Extension is Evil

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