Based Camp - Behavior Disfunction Mirroring Zoo Animals (Zoochosis)： True Cause of Birth Rate Collapse？

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be discussing an idea

00:00:06.160 that i had that was prompted by something rubyard was saying on one of alt hiss yeah which is that

00:00:12.000 if you look at many of the odd behaviors that you see in cities today among humans many of them look

00:00:18.800 very similar to the types of behaviors that animals begin to make in captivity specifically

00:00:24.000 mammals in zoos and a lot of people know the you know the mouse utopia experiment right and they

00:00:31.600 tried to draw a a line between the mouse utopia experiment and the ills of modern society and

00:00:38.760 tick tock and falling fertility rates you know and it's like that's all well and good but the problem 0.96

00:00:42.760 is is that we have evidence and you can find it online if you if you google about this somebody

00:00:47.840 did a extremely long blotted post that the mouse utopia experiment may have basically been faked

00:00:53.280 like we don't know for sure it basically it's it was of that period of experiments in like the 1950s

00:00:59.700 when like nobody really cared if it was true or not they just cared how how spicy it wasn't like

00:01:04.240 pre-validation there wasn't yeah go for it sure yeah sure whatever you want to put this in your

00:01:10.860 backyard yeah it'll be full of dead mice soon sure whatever basically what it appears they may have

00:01:15.680 done is run a bunch of trials and then only reported the ones that were that got interesting

00:01:20.800 results in a very uncontrolled format um but and and also that that only really gives us like

00:01:28.180 one experiment to look at but if instead of correlating with mouse utopia experiment we

00:01:32.940 correlate with well-known and well-documented behavior from zoos oh and when there's a lot of

00:01:38.900 zoos and there's a lot of animals yeah a lot of and this could be upstream of everything to do with

00:01:45.120 fertility collapse because as you know one of them well yeah like you even you you know when we used 1.00

00:01:49.880 to start in the very beginning talk talking with media you talked about people breeding like caged

00:01:54.580 pandas yeah people know caged pandas are famously hard to breed the pandas don't really breed in

00:02:00.440 captivity but lots of animals don't breed in captivity there there are many species of wild animals that

00:02:05.640 will almost not breed in captivity which is odd you know people can look at humans not breeding and

00:02:10.680 they're like it's really weird because like evolutionarily we should be programmed to like

00:02:14.440 want to do all of this especially like if you've got nothing but time what are you gonna do but bang

00:02:18.580 each other what's going on here yeah um and then literally it is very similar to cities they are in

00:02:24.280 a confined area but natural predators are removed and they are given all the food that they could ever

00:02:31.260 want yeah and they are just tons of toys are thrown in with them like with us like being on our 0.97

00:02:37.520 phone or something like that yeah they're given all of the stimulation so that they can masturbate 0.89

00:02:42.260 these traditional instincts when i say masturbate an instinct what i mean is masturbation as a concept

00:02:48.520 is is is when you are using a stimuli that is not the stimuli that a pattern of arousal or pleasure

00:02:57.380 evolved to be triggered by to trigger that and so it could be you know your uh exploration stimuli

00:03:04.580 from like a video game or something like that that's a form of masturbation right or as we've 0.70

00:03:09.420 said before you know having pets instead of having kids is a form of masturbating specific

00:03:14.460 child-rearing instincts for some individuals but anyway so very very very similar circumstances

00:03:20.900 and i'm just gonna dive into it because i thought it was really interesting and and i'm he wasn't the

00:03:27.540 first person to go into this somebody write a book on this subject i think it's far back at the 1950s

00:03:31.400 interesting so yeah yeah and i i did a little bit of of searching around this topic like wondering

00:03:38.080 what i immediately wondered and i i actually have a theory as to why this is the case also it sort of

00:03:44.760 dovetails with what we said so we can kind of share our notes and diagnoses yeah okay animals and zoos

00:03:51.620 often exhibit zoocosis repetitive purposeless actions due to stress lack of stimulation restricted space

00:03:58.520 examples include big cats pacing for hours elephants swaying or rocking their heads zebras

00:04:06.360 biting non-food objects repeatedly and walruses regurgitating food oh they're going bulimic

00:04:13.520 this this just sounds either like teenage girl stuff or autistic person stuff right yeah well and what's also

00:04:20.180 interesting about these behavior patterns is that they they seem to be species specific so yeah what

00:04:29.300 we see here is we can see like the the zebras biting non-food objects or walruses regurgitating food or elephants

00:04:35.380 swaying or rocking their heads or big cats pacing what this means is that we should expect humans to have a

00:04:42.180 pattern of behavior like this actually while i go further can you see if humans exhibit any behaviors

00:04:51.220 that are zoocosis like when in extreme captivity like jail cells or something oh i think that'd be

00:04:57.780 pretty interesting to see if we noted anything like that cities impose similar confinement through small

00:05:02.200 apartments etc leading to repetitive stereotypes like compulsive phone scrolling nail biting skin

00:05:08.340 picking or substance abuse binge drinking and overeating so you could see these behaviors like these simple

00:05:14.740 addictive behaviors as being something that you see in jail cells and not sorry in in sort of the captive

00:05:21.940 environment i'd also note here that there is a common misunderstanding of zucosis that people say that

00:05:28.660 monkeys in the wild like i don't know it became like a red pill talking point don't masturbate this is 0.69

00:05:33.700 not true at all monkeys in the wild masturbate a lot it's well recorded in in wild monkeys they may 0.90

00:05:40.420 masturbate slightly less than captive monkeys but i think that's more an issue of the amount of time

00:05:45.300 that they have on their hands in terms of like status fights getting food everything like that

00:05:50.180 what'd you find simone it says and i asked perplexity humans do exhibit behaviors similar to zucosis

00:05:56.340 abnormal repetitive and somewhat self-destructive behaviors found in captive animals when subjected

00:06:01.300 to extreme confinement such as in prisons or during prolonged hospitalization uh yeah keep

00:06:08.020 very well like what behaviors what does human zucosis look like like pacing rocking self-harm

00:06:14.020 as a result of stress i mean these are all things we see in city dwellers as well so i guess this

00:06:18.740 is what makes sense compulsive repetitive routine self-injury or agitation as coping mechanisms

00:06:24.660 self-injury the entire transmission and then also a prolonged isolation in humans is strongly

00:06:29.700 associated with depression anxiety panic attacks mood swings impulsivity apathy withdrawal and even

00:06:34.660 psychotic system symptoms such as hallucinations and paranoia even cognitive impairments i mean is

00:06:42.340 that not what we're seeing was trump derangement syndrome which is primarily coming from cities

00:06:47.140 emotional distress and and also paranoia and and hallucinations and yeah wild and i'll note here we've

00:06:54.420 mentioned in other videos that this incredible low fertility rate and the behavioral issues you

00:06:59.300 see associated with cities are not a new phenomenon in fact cities have been a fertility shredder for

00:07:04.340 well as long as we have records of them the the fertility rate in cities has never been above

00:07:08.500 repopulation rate except for jewish populations that's the only population yeah so just there's always 1.00

00:07:14.100 just been this understanding that like the population comes from the rural areas and gets shredded and

00:07:20.100 and disappears in the urban areas yeah and and our theory on that which we've done videos on is jews

00:07:25.780 should be thought of as like a human ethnic group that is such a city specialist as we've noted something

00:07:31.540 like 98 of jews live in an urban center that is such an urban specialist and has been for so long that

00:07:37.060 they've essentially evolved an adaptation to this environment that allows them to stay cognitively

00:07:42.580 healthy and still breed while in urban environments and i love it when people are like oh you know

00:07:48.340 because i was talking with a reporter today and she goes you can't possibly live in a city like

00:07:52.100 manhattan and have a bunch of kids and i'm like well the orthodox jews living in manhattan would have

00:07:57.620 something to say about that i think yeah they're doing all right yeah they really are doing all right

00:08:01.620 yeah yeah but i think you also need you you basically can't do that if you also at the same time

00:08:06.740 assimilate with mainstream culture in cities and use mainstream urban institutions like the de la motte family

00:08:13.620 which is i think 10 or 11 kids they're the ones who are very musical and have kids in juilliard

00:08:19.540 just left new york city after losing all their money because they lived in a normal new york townhouse

00:08:27.300 and they shopped at normal restaurants and went out to normal stores and kind of integrated i mean like

00:08:32.980 you know they still have no idea what they were thinking they they didn't have jobs from what i know

00:08:37.780 they sold a house somewhere else and then used they busked for money i i think yeah i think they

00:08:43.860 kind of expected that i mean out of faith that god would provide kind of i also think that they expected

00:08:51.780 to hit more pay dirt from their social media work than they expected they get did get for example like a

00:08:59.700 tlc show but it didn't get serialized um and i think they kind of hoped that it would and that maybe

00:09:06.660 they'd get some money out of that and also i think they have social media like they have a management

00:09:10.900 company that they currently owe fourteen thousand dollars to so like it seems that that's what they

00:09:16.020 wanted to lean into and it just didn't work out that's a shame no yeah i mean i can see making

00:09:20.980 i mean we don't have a job right now you know subscribe on patreon um but no like thanks to everyone

00:09:26.820 who has supported us yeah yeah i mean we are if we keep going at this rate we should be able to

00:09:31.060 support ourselves on youtube i'd say within like a year and a half yeah people are pointing out though

00:09:35.380 that we're like just asking to be demonetized so who knows i don't know i don't know how to train

00:09:41.060 your wife all right so the next trait that you see was in zoos is hyper aggressive aggression and 0.88

00:09:46.740 social strain oh social strain what does social strain look like in zoo animals so marine mammals

00:09:52.340 e.g orcas become hyper aggressive towards each other or humans due to isolation from natural pods

00:09:57.780 primates might withdraw or fight over resources bears or big cats show an increased head tossing

00:10:03.780 or pacing when stressed and refined head toss oh sick burn it's the head toss we know they will bite 0.99

00:10:10.180 your arm off oh my god i am never gonna financially recover from this

00:10:19.140 but anyway but but consider with these cities you get things like road rage

00:10:23.460 and karen's just and karen's one social aggression yeah yeah okay the zoo animals of women karen 1.00

00:10:35.380 well i mean karen's don't make sense it's it's women often sort of engaging in an abnormal sort of 1.00

00:10:42.020 dominance display like social dominance display is what it really is when when they are affluent middle

00:10:46.820 class not threatened and and have no direct like tribal relation within a dominance hierarchy to the

00:10:52.980 person they're karening you know like i want to talk to your manager thing this is not someone within

00:10:57.140 your social network who is a direct threat to your your position and indominance hierarchy so there's 0.88

00:11:02.020 also not a lot of like normal evolutionary sense for you to mean girl them like it makes sense to mean

00:11:08.100 girl someone in your church community or in your like bridge club community if it's the 1950s or something

00:11:12.740 but not not a stranger at a store this is mean girling for no reason at all somebody who really can't

00:11:21.380 fight back yeah interesting any of our fans are wondering am i being a karen sometimes just define

00:11:29.940 it as do you ever pull social rank on service staff like you should there is no reason anyone should ever

00:11:39.380 be pulling social rank on service staff in the in the after of this episode we're going to be talking about

00:11:44.100 this but also it's also known for for pulling rank on uh relative strangers like it could be someone in

00:11:51.220 your like homeowner's association and you're like you can't put your trash can there that's karening too

00:11:55.620 right right no i understand that's karening but i think that most karens who karen like that are also

00:11:59.460 going to do it in other situations yeah like how do you know and if you're like well i don't do it much

00:12:05.620 it's like bro literally never in my life have i felt the impulse to pull social rank on a service

00:12:12.420 staff yeah it has never even crossed my mind with simone i've never seen her do it once i've never

00:12:18.180 seen anyone who i dated do it if you do this and you've even had instances where certain people have

00:12:24.260 put fake cockroaches in your food at restaurants and you don't even say anything to anyone you just walk

00:12:29.140 away oh we should get video footage of that well i think i i handled it very with a lot of manners

00:12:37.780 and maturity to be honest yeah you just kind of caught up and you're like are you kidding me and you

00:12:42.900 just walked away this was in by the way the la restaurant famous for where being the the place where

00:12:50.180 el woods was dumped in legally blonde i don't know if you knew that yeah that was so but so i just i

00:12:56.260 just i didn't i didn't make a fit or a scene i just stood up and said are you kidding me you walked

00:13:03.460 away

00:13:08.500 and they were kidding you you just had no idea for quite some time

00:13:12.740 anyway anyway elson reproductive declines uh that's a big one often leads to obesity reduced

00:13:19.700 fertility and shorter lifespans elephants with foot issues from hard surfaces and polar bears with

00:13:24.820 typic swimming animals may overheat provided food without natural exercise or stress effects

00:13:31.860 which which can affect breeding um this is really interesting to me because you you do see this in

00:13:37.460 humans as well you do see higher rates of obesity now definitely as society has further urbanized

00:13:43.460 and you see higher which is interesting because it means that our response to urbanization

00:13:48.420 is not just predictable it's natural yeah which is very interesting to me oh that's a good point

00:13:55.380 that is a good point yeah yeah we're not yeah you'd see this in anyone huh okay

00:14:04.420 yeah the an interesting phenomenon here as they know is that some animals in like they lose their

00:14:11.460 quote-unquote wildness which can in part be their ability to normalize to humans they note here that like

00:14:18.020 urban adjacent foxes can become very docile around humans and and basically not afraid of humans

00:14:24.500 and otherwise nice to humans whereas it's rarer for foxes to become tolerant of humans in captivity

00:14:31.220 that's really interesting why would that be yeah because it's like jailers versus somewhat symbiotic

00:14:41.300 people who are like oh fox i'm gonna give you food have my doritos no some foxes have been

00:14:46.900 genetically conditioned to be like pets yeah i know there was that breeding experiment but then they

00:14:51.460 basically just turned into dogs with floppy ears right yeah but this is different yeah this appears

00:14:57.700 different so another behavior do animals frequently just display stereotypic behaviors here that we've

00:15:04.820 talked about this to an extent like rocking spinning etc that resulted boredom but this could be seen

00:15:10.740 seen as analogous to adhd and hyperactivity which we see a rise of you know as mentioned before in

00:15:17.220 regards to adhd like are humans really designed to sit at a desk for like eight hours a day like

00:15:24.900 no we we are not evolved to do that right and so a lot of populations are just going to go crazy when

00:15:32.260 they do that which means that you're going to see evolution happen further i mean you don't go crazy when

00:15:36.980 doing that you actually seem highly adapted to long-term mostly stationary work so yeah but as

00:15:42.900 long as you do that from the treadmill desk i mean i'm totally exhibiting the the tiger pacing

00:15:47.700 not not even i actually argue that you're you're you're exhibiting a highly adaptive behavior

00:15:53.620 i suspect people who feel an impulse to only want to work alone at their computer while walking all day

00:16:00.980 are going to have better health outcomes than the ones who only want to sit in front of a computer

00:16:07.140 all day or would see doing more than sitting at a computer as like an imposition

00:16:13.380 fair point yeah yeah and i mean some of our patreon subscribers have pointed out the need to

00:16:19.620 evolve either as a culture or whatever adaptations that allow us to continue to survive whether that's

00:16:26.900 like well so that's why we're walking desk we're helping evolve that i'm making the next generation

00:16:32.660 that combines your downside with your strengths and and or my strengths and your strengths hopefully

00:16:39.700 i mean in our kids very interestingly is one thing i was really afraid of it's to

00:16:43.220 have kids that would exhibit both of our weaknesses oh yeah hey it'll still happen well the the assorting

00:16:50.500 hasn't happened that way so far all the kids seem to have

00:16:52.900 well i mean you would argue that that's why to you it feels like they only take after me

00:16:57.540 but personality wise they do seem to disproportionately take after me um yeah except for

00:17:05.140 one our second second oldest are you kidding he's all about breaking rules i was never about breaking

00:17:09.700 rules torson torson yeah yeah he's a little about breaking rules yeah he's the only one who doesn't

00:17:16.340 know how to be a good boy and he lets us know all the time i just don't know how to be a good boy

00:17:21.620 and i'm like i think you do know how to be a good boy i think that you have decided intentionally to

00:17:27.940 not be a good boy he knows all about good boy things we had a 30 freaking minute conversation

00:17:32.740 about good boy things and bad boy things he knows what's good then and weirdly included feeding cat

00:17:39.140 food to cats under good boy things i really like that which i kind of muddled though i was like i don't

00:17:44.900 know man if it's like stray cats and it's causing a cat colony like this may not be a good thing and

00:17:49.540 i i i shouldn't be getting i did you tell him that sometimes poisoning cats can be a good boy thing

00:17:55.860 i mean but i'm going to hell for this oh well yeah anyway love you let's keep going okay all right

00:18:03.700 all right all right let me dig your i was i wasn't going to talk there because i wanted you to dig

00:18:07.300 further going to how your hatred of cats i love cats i very much identify with cats they're all right

00:18:15.300 so you barely poisoned any cats barely i mean i i was the one who wait what are you going to say oh

00:18:24.260 yes you had when the family dog had to be killed or cat had yeah you took i'm always the one like

00:18:30.420 who's like yeah let's do it let's go it's time you just took responsibility simone well and i mean

00:18:37.140 the same way with humans it's not like this is a cat thing yeah when you had to put humans to

00:18:42.980 to pasture you did the same thing but everyone was like oh this person's getting pretty old simone just

00:18:48.340 like takes them out back it's like i got it don't worry you guys don't need to get your hands dirty

00:18:55.460 just me simone far man well anyway i literally she would be that way though

00:19:06.660 i don't know what i would do with the body my problem is bodies i don't know what to do with

00:19:10.580 bodies they're messy that's why i haven't killed any of our chickens yet oh true yeah to process them 0.99

00:19:17.380 like killing them's fine is that why you have all the feathers yet simone they don't want to deal

00:19:23.380 with the body i i can see it in your eyes it does it would be a unique nightmare to deal with a dead 0.96

00:19:30.260 human body no i i wife i i our audience needs to know this and walt guys oh walt right you just get

00:19:40.420 one the secret to women is get one that is squeamish with dead bodies so she doesn't kill you 1.00

00:19:46.180 yeah that's what you should really be getting in these that's the dream that's the dream not like

00:19:51.380 what are your thoughts about divorce it's more like so what are your biggest fears around you

00:19:56.180 know needing to take do you think probability wise before i keep going here it's more likely

00:20:02.340 that you kill me in a future timeline or that you divorce me in a future timeline gosh yeah i

00:20:12.500 i again though i don't want to deal with the body so it would have to be divorce

00:20:15.300 if if if like it was a video game where like you you you shoot someone and then they just like

00:20:24.340 you know break into sparkles then definitely kill you know what i mean break into sparkles

00:20:31.540 so how we wish it went you know if only yeah lethargy and withdrawal animals exhibit decreased

00:20:38.100 locomotion huddling self-clasping or apathy signs of depressive like stakes and a lack of control

00:20:44.100 elephants and cetaceans show head bobbing or circling as coping mechanisms these are related

00:20:50.580 to neurotransmitter imbalances and boredom in captivity causes depression like symptoms which

00:20:57.060 we also see in humans humans who live in urban environments depending on how urban the environment

00:21:01.220 is have much higher rates of depression and within the urban cultural specialists uh like the urban

00:21:08.020 monoculture you see very high rates of depression you also see in captivity another thing that we see

00:21:14.500 in urban populations is self-harm you know pulling out fur which uh you know grinding teeth very similar

00:21:22.820 to human you know cutting or unaliving attempts or other things that you see very commonly within human

00:21:30.340 cultures well especially isolated people who've been in prison or isolated through hospitalization

00:21:38.500 for the thing i just looked up yeah so yeah very similar very similar another interesting one is

00:21:44.660 abnormal status seeking or dominance displays normal status seeking yeah i mean excess aggression

00:21:51.300 towards subordinates or symbolic displays birds puffing up feathers unnaturally

00:21:55.300 or primate twerking resources um what's interesting from this is karens karens are an unusual dominance

00:22:04.820 display as we were talking yeah yeah yeah outside your domain you're not benefiting

00:22:13.140 yeah another thing that you get is enclosures often cause understimulation boredom or over

00:22:18.820 stimulation from crowd or noise prompting inattentive but abnormal behaviors like object manipulation

00:22:24.340 e.g. raccoons creating games with trash or over eating food which leads to obesity as we talked

00:22:30.260 about as well this could be seen as analogous to human thrill seeking like bungee jumping

00:22:39.460 excessive shopping etc oh wow just to feel something i never thought about it that way but that's

00:22:46.020 but you did all that stuff you did per jumping was the parachute jumping skydiving yeah wow

00:22:53.060 what a foolish thing to do i cannot believe you did that one it's not like i mean aside from my

00:23:00.660 parents who was gonna miss me you know i was dating you at the time uh were you dating me when i went 0.96

00:23:07.620 skydiving yeah you got it as a reward for our date that was the reward from the competition that you did in

00:23:14.580 in your office to to see who you could force to go dating well yeah but but but you were gonna break

00:23:21.620 up with me so it didn't matter it would just be a cool story you know your ex-girlfriend who died in

00:23:26.820 a tragic skydiving accident be great you know do you know how hard it would have been to replace you

00:23:33.380 simone yeah you didn't yeah but we didn't it we didn't know that at the time that you were gonna

00:23:40.100 i had mostly figured it out at the time well i hadn't i was so sure you were gonna find someone

00:23:45.460 at stanford so i did nothing wrong i'm blameless here okay it's just doing the world a favor

00:23:53.380 another interesting one here is mal imprinting it's called it's just like where a duckling just starts

00:23:58.660 following you instead so animals will form attachments to inappropriate objects or species

00:24:03.700 each hand-reared birds bonding with humans instead of mates which can lead to or or even inanimate

00:24:09.780 objects on occasion this could be seen as very akin to parasocial relationships with humans overly

00:24:15.620 bonding with people they see on youtube or on tick tock etc no no no i am defending my parasocial

00:24:23.940 relationships they have everything i actually want into friendship and more i think it's it's

00:24:29.940 sort of given the direction we're going but i was just giving an example here that a standard youtuber

00:24:35.140 would give okay simone okay okay people come to us for both our slightly intellectual and brain dead

00:24:41.620 takes they just want they just want to feel loved that's what we're here for you know it's so funny i was

00:24:46.900 talking with simone about this but within our fan base we seem uniquely contest conceptualized as a

00:24:55.460 mom and dad like role for for fans is the way that we're often talked about when i see us talked about

00:25:01.140 in like larger communities which is weird where when you contrast somebody like ben shapiro who's always

00:25:06.740 thought of by most people as like a kid like what do the young people think i'll go to ben shapiro is

00:25:11.540 older than us now right and i've always been told i look uniquely young for my age so it is weird for

00:25:17.540 me to be seen in this mom and dad role all the time but i think it's because we got famous in relation to

00:25:24.420 having kids and so people are always contextualizing us within this context of uh and together and

00:25:31.540 together yeah i mean we're always interacting as a husband and wife and i guess when people see a

00:25:36.260 husband wife interact and tell me things the the evoked set is mom and dad i'll take it well yeah

00:25:44.580 no and as we get older actually it makes a lot of sense now that i think about it there aren't in

00:25:49.380 terms of conservative influencers any other ones i can think of that work as a married team and so it's

00:25:55.780 very hard like you can say oh jordan peterson's like my dad in in sort of like if i don't have like a

00:26:01.620 stable mom and dad the problem is is then who's your mom right like are you choosing a separate

00:26:06.420 mom who has no relationship with jordan peterson and the or like jordan peterson parasocial sons just

00:26:13.380 in single family households intellectually speaking yeah if jordan peterson's like your intellectual

00:26:17.940 dad you're in an intellectual single family household it's so sad poor things actually i've

00:26:24.420 noticed a phenomenon to counter this that people have done which is to fan pair the influencers

00:26:31.540 to serve as mom and dad for them the most like candace owens and jordan peterson no no the most

00:26:37.540 common one is asthma gold and kirsha i'll take it i'll take it because she always talks positively

00:26:44.660 about him and i don't know how much he knows about her oh he must know because people are always shipping

00:26:48.900 them oh they are oh constantly yeah it's like a constant thing on her show is is that they're in a fake

00:26:56.020 relationship which is really sad because why why don't you guys just get in a relationship you seem like you

00:27:00.740 you know do they both live in austin asma gold lives in austin she's in boston oh then that's not

00:27:06.260 going to work out is it you can't rhyme through proximity you need to be close physically move

00:27:12.180 you've moved for me before you know come on simone but it's it's an odd role to be playing as an adult

00:27:20.420 when i had always conceptualized myself as somebody who's uniquely hip with young people things like i i

00:27:26.660 watch a lot of like children's entertainment even now oh that's true yes that is true yeah

00:27:32.820 it was so funny i remember like i met my cousins and they go how do you know and this is even from

00:27:37.460 the generation before this how do you know everything about all the shows that are popular

00:27:41.380 with our generation but yeah it has been weird to build this older framing online because one of the

00:27:48.580 instances where it was very funny is somebody was like oh this is like a boomers take on like 0.91

00:27:52.260 4chan one more 4chan video and i was like bro do you not know how old i am like 4chan was becoming

00:27:59.060 a thing in my generation it was my generation that was 4chan and built the 4chan culture before it

00:28:06.100 became glowy right like if you are significantly younger than me then it is unlikely that you ever

00:28:13.220 even got a chance to experience real 4chan which makes me think that whoever said this is actually around

00:28:18.260 the same age i am they just conceptualized me as an older person maybe but anyway

00:28:26.660 the next one learned helplessness loss of autonomy constant confinement erodes animals

00:28:31.380 sense of control leading to learned helplessness behaviors like apathy reduced exploration and ptsd

00:28:36.980 like symptoms and you could see this if you look at cities with like bureaucratic red tape economic

00:28:41.940 pressure surveillance as creating a similar sort of environment where you have this sense of loss of

00:28:47.860 control and sense of helplessness what can we learn from this destroy cities i don't know like

00:28:54.660 that's not going to happen but i i i'd actually say the benefits if you can if you can work from home

00:29:01.140 of living in a rural environment are something that you are likely underestimating unless you are dating

00:29:07.700 cities are very sort of necessary to find a spouse but once you find a spouse unless you're a jew in which 0.98

00:29:13.060 case you know stay in a city you seem to be adapted to that environment i'd i'd strongly suggest countries

00:29:18.260 that would be yeah yeah yeah i i do think cities are a good place to go and build your career and build

00:29:26.340 a network and find your partner 100 like i i wouldn't dissuade our children from visiting a city

00:29:33.380 uh or living in one essentially visiting but you're going in a city was the goal of getting out of the

00:29:38.020 city you're not 100 it's with the full understanding that you are not going to stay there and i think

00:29:43.940 that's more normalized than many think at least for those who plan on having children but when i was

00:29:49.940 thinking about this subject i looked to see if researchers had found any meaningful behavioral or

00:29:55.860 psychological difference between urban and rural populations and on the surface and this is human

00:30:03.780 you would think that the urban populations are specifically and very explicitly and clearly

00:30:11.860 better off so when it comes to neuroticism urban residents have lower neuroticism generally more

00:30:18.420 openness more conscientiousness more a higher psychological well-being similar levels of life

00:30:24.820 satisfaction and even more likely to exercise versus rural populations which are more likely to exhibit risky

00:30:32.900 behaviors and and the only area where like they seem strictly worse off on a very surface level

00:30:38.660 is that urban residents have lower levels of community engagement versus higher levels among

00:30:45.620 rural populations but then as i was thinking about this in the context of you describing zoo animal

00:30:51.540 environments and this was also mentioned in some of the research was it in some of the research when you

00:30:56.500 controlled for things uh like like psychological well-being when you controlled for the social services

00:31:04.580 and i think health too that people had access to in cities at much higher rates then the differences

00:31:10.580 disappeared so a lot of it had to do just with city people having so much more access to all of these

00:31:17.140 services and conveniences that are just less there for rural people who now at least in the united states

00:31:23.460 are largely left behind even if they're equally qualified for social services it's just a lot harder to access

00:31:29.620 them and there's there's less of that feeling of a really strong social safety net and what i think might

00:31:36.180 be going on is that life is also too easy in cities too convenient too immediately satisfying and in this

00:31:44.180 goes back to your theme of like well zoo animals have everything taken care of for them you would think well why

00:31:49.620 aren't they thriving you know they should be totally fine and in in many ways you could also argue

00:31:54.740 well people in cities have everything taken care of for them everything's in arms reach away you can just

00:32:00.020 seamless web or doordash like things really simply and easily you you can get everything immediately

00:32:05.380 but that doesn't serve them well like they may they may exhibit thriving on a surface level

00:32:13.620 but that thriving maybe correlates with a level of affluence that leads to sterilization does that

00:32:21.940 make sense yeah kind of going back to that conversation we had where we i was telling you about my

00:32:28.500 grandmother's autobiography and just how dystopian and scary her life was as she was fleeing paris when

00:32:34.900 the nazis were invading and you know they're like they're there's the roads are being bombed as they're

00:32:40.340 trying to drive away and the cars are running out of gas and it's just terrifying and she has so much

00:32:45.940 drive to live to survive and i mean i'm sure by like most measures her health was probably terrible

00:32:53.540 her psychological well-being was terrible she was probably very neurotic you know all these things

00:32:58.660 like you would think by all objective measures that she was not thriving but in the end this gave her a

00:33:07.220 drive to do better to take risks to work hard that produced in the end for her quite a bit of wealth

00:33:14.740 and a family so go figure you need it hard what was i gonna say who's the point you just made i

00:33:22.660 remember i wanted to respond to it and so people need hardship and if things are too easy they do badly

00:33:27.460 with a reporter from from la when she was talking about how you just can't afford to have kids you

00:33:33.620 know doing what and she didn't need to live in la you know because she you know travels for her job 1.00

00:33:38.180 to do the the stories and everything and she's like you just can't afford to have kids and i was like

00:33:42.980 well you mean you can't afford to have kids without sacrifices she's like yeah but do you really want

00:33:47.140 me to like sacrifice like my happiness or the things i want to do in order for children and my ability

00:33:52.500 and i'm like i did all that you know i'm a similar socioeconomic class of you or i should be you know

00:33:58.340 given my degree and everything and i guarantee you i am more satisfied with my life than you are

00:34:03.620 100 yeah you're not really making a sacrifice not in the way that you think about it you're making

00:34:08.900 an immediate sacrifice for a much better life mm-hmm yeah and and you i mean at least we personally

00:34:15.860 have found that we we traded off luxurious things that we thought would make us happy for i don't know

00:34:23.620 very basic or fundamental things that we didn't value which bring us more contentment

00:34:29.220 and happiness than we could have possibly imagined so it's also just not really well communicated

00:34:34.740 how much you're going to get from the things that you are taking on and and for which you are making

00:34:39.700 great sacrifices yeah even a simulated rural environment like if you look out our windows

00:34:47.460 even though we're next to like a highway basically you wouldn't know it looks like we live in the woods

00:34:51.620 yeah it looks like the english countryside which is so cool but we're by we're like literally on a

00:34:58.260 highway we're on a state route anyway love you to death have a great day love you too gorgeous

00:35:07.060 coming in loud and clear sounding sexy as always oh what people like the you being hypnotized and

00:35:15.140 brainwashed cover i told you it was a good play i told you it was a good play for the cover 0.94

00:35:21.300 well you were right as always and a woman being whipped everybody wants to see that 1.00

00:35:27.140 yeah yeah who doesn't especially women i've i'm reading enough of their romance novels 1.00

00:35:32.820 by yes yes there does seem to be my romance addiction these days

00:35:41.460 yeah i don't know oh wait that happens and i don't know like

00:35:45.860 like it literally simone in the last 10 minutes within the romance manga i'm reading somebody was

00:35:51.700 whipped but the main character or like it was a maid that the main character got whipped for 1.00

00:35:57.220 disrespecting her i i like my main character's pretty evil that's the thing that's why i like

00:36:02.740 romance manga so much is women are way okay was more evil like that in any other book is a sign that 0.96

00:36:10.660 you're dealing with the villain character right like that's how they establish presumably yeah

00:36:15.460 bad guy i actually don't i've watched media before where the a good character like the protagonist

00:36:23.300 ends up having a servant whipped for disrespecting them but really yeah here here we are that's that's

00:36:32.580 my type of book yeah i mean honestly like if it's a little bit logical i could maybe kind of understand

00:36:39.060 it vis-a-vis the the romance novels that i have found my way to they are pretty freaking

00:36:47.140 disappointing in terms oh no i've got to i've got to introduce you to oh yeah you only listed on

00:36:52.260 audiobook but you say they're disappointing but you've listened to like you'll be like oh i hate

00:36:56.340 this series so anyway in book number three and it's like simone simone they're in our romance

00:37:02.980 novels episode where we go over the plots of romance no one believes they are when i say that i

00:37:08.900 listen to them to fall asleep no one believes me and in the one i was breeding the maid did deserve 1.00

00:37:14.900 it she said that because the woman was born illegitimately they were the same status 1.00

00:37:18.980 to a maid you know the nerve the nerve right you know goodness well i mean when you put it that 0.93

00:37:26.020 way i i'd whip a maid for that come on simone yes i don't know if i'd have would i have the stomach 1.00

00:37:33.780 to be a noble i guess if it was like culturally normal i oh in terms of like disciplining see

00:37:40.420 that's the thing is neither you nor i would ever like even if we had infinite money want staff at our

00:37:49.140 house because that would be the worst to be surrounded by people like why do people

00:37:55.540 opt into this like i would pay money to not although they're they're like famous reclusive

00:38:01.620 rich people who did tons of things like and apparently this is also something that was in

00:38:06.500 i don't know who's oh yeah lex wexner or whoever epstein the the victoria's secret guy who epstein

00:38:15.540 conned into like he had power of attorney over all his money and stuff in his house he had a dining room

00:38:20.900 table that went to a lower floor and then would come back up with all the food on it this also

00:38:26.180 existed in the castle of some reclusive bavarian prince or something so like i think the the autistic 0.98

00:38:34.340 nobles it's funny that you mentioned this simone i've mentioned this before to you the house i grew up

00:38:39.460 in in dallas was a very old very wealthy like aristocratic which one the one that we ended up

00:38:45.860 randomly visiting at a stanford no no no the one after that is much larger i've pointed it out to

00:38:51.780 you but we weren't able to go inside yeah in highland park yeah it genuinely looks like a palace but

00:38:59.620 anyway yeah it had pathways in the walls in all of the rooms so that you never had to see the staff

00:39:07.300 so that the staff creepy though you don't want to know that there's like a place where people can hide

00:39:12.180 you know what i mean like i really appreciate that our walls are literally thin boards of wood

00:39:17.620 through which you can hear everything yeah but that's that's the degree before before i was sent

00:39:23.620 off to like a prison system and never lived with my family again after 13 like the level of of

00:39:29.860 relatively aristocrat that they were i think is harder hard to overstate yeah it's a really pretty

00:39:35.700 house i bet i could find a picture of it on google maps no no no it the the one that's there now it

00:39:40.420 was torn down and rebuilt oh really yeah the house from my childhood isn't there anymore well that's

00:39:46.980 a shame wow i thought really i thought it was like that was the house that i looked at where my next

00:39:53.940 door neighbor was army hammer the guy who became the famous actor who then had his career ruined over

00:39:59.940 a vore fetish was it just like bdsm it was it was the vore stuff that got it really hit they always get

00:40:07.860 you for the vore stuff gotta keep your mouth shut you know people come on i i mean he was he was

00:40:15.780 very aggressive about like actually doing it with people and stuff yeah i think that's the problem

00:40:20.580 yeah i'm thinking if you're like commissioning cringe-worthy fan art which now you can just use ai to

00:40:26.660 do well would it work for that well i just used ai this morning to create my little pony fan art and

00:40:33.540 i was like damn i mean you're not perfect but not bad guys because you were you were telling me that 0.82

00:40:39.780 well you're only going to be able to find fan art that's decent and compared like when i looked at 0.75

00:40:44.420 the fan art i was able to get versus the stuff that ai generated i was actually really impressed i'm

00:40:51.060 gonna check out the my little pony title card you put together yeah i have it open right now i've made

00:40:56.340 a i've made a couple oh they're little authoritarian ponies look at that yeah they're like they're

00:41:00.900 they're really not bad i was i was very surprised yeah i thought i would have problems with nazi ponies

00:41:06.340 but it doesn't appear to no you know i think you know maybe it's the vibe shift suddenly like you know

00:41:14.100 they brought the fashion back to back to fascism yeah i like i like the the storm one is pretty good

00:41:20.180 oh see that was grok and that was that was that surprised me that the more like realistic figurine

00:41:25.940 fan art that was grok and then the illustration based ones were from black forest which i just

00:41:32.900 think is fantastic i'm such a huge fan of black forest so yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be tough

00:41:38.100 to choose maybe we should ask the people on patreon for their choice of the pony one okay yeah you gotta

00:41:44.900 yeah choose choose a choose your pony so you guys are gonna flip the rock and show me a lobster

00:41:56.820 okay so go flip it

00:42:02.420 do you want me to do it

00:42:03.140 do you think he ran away yeah i think he got away

00:42:29.140 maybe he got dead under the rock it's amazing yeah because i was moving it

00:42:38.980 it's like i see signs of lobster i see signs of lobster kind of

Based Camp - September 03, 2025

Behavior Disfunction Mirroring Zoo Animals (Zoochosis)： True Cause of Birth Rate Collapse？

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