Blue Sky is Cutting Dems' Last Ties to Reality
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Summary
In this episode, Simone and I discuss the rise of the platform BlueSky, a competitor to the original blue sky platform, and how it has been used by progressives to isolate themselves from the world and isolate them from reality.
Transcript
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about
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the platform blue sky um which is a competitor ish to twitter it was actually started by twitter
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we'll get into this week no yeah it was started and owned by the twitter corporation but it's
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like they're not a non-profit it's like some weird type of like for whatever
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to blue sky right now first i want to get into the fact that i love that leftists are fleeing
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from twitter i have seen some great memes about this i want to start with one right here that
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uniquely and it is the personification of x thing what's wrong user you're gonna cry you're gonna
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shit your pants i'm like you know what i don't more people need this in their lives right now
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right a little bit a little bit bring back bullying people and then the user is sadly walking away
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and x is like hey where are you going get back here you pussy but x is absolutely right about this
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these people are pussies and then he's hugging oh sweet little blue sky they're there it'll be okay
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says blue sky chan but here's the thing i love this because it presents almost a horror aesthetic to me
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and this is such a thing in horror where you have the obviously evil and sheltering mother who is
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hiding somebody from their potential their ability to interact with the world
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and feeding the munchausen's my proxy mother typically that's the trope
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you know you could see this as the mom from water boy you going to twitter
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i'm sorry mama i wanted to tell you you all gallivant with your fancy the right friends
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it's twitter while i'm sitting here all day with nobody to keep me company except blue sky
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the chickens are coming home to roost bobby boucher you reap the fruit of your selfish ways
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you're gonna lose all your fancy elections and you're gonna fail your big exam because twitter
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is a nazi everything is a nazi to you mama well i like twitter and i like the right and i'm gonna
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keep doing a book because they make me feel good and by the way mama women don't have penises
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and i like trump trump that's my back or the rapunzel mom right like oh yeah
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mm-hmm yeah very rapunzel right mother knows best it's a scary world out there something will go wrong
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i swear ruffians thugs poison also large bugs men with pointy teeth mother will protect you
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darling here's what i suggest you know oh you you just can't go out there in the world
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yeah yeah don't you know yeah mother knows best take it from your mumsy
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but on top of all this it's so like an embodiment of the safe space song in south park
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where these people are isolating themselves from reality everyone likes me and thinks i'm great
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in my safe space my safe space you might call me a pussy but i won't hear you in my safe space
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you will see there's a very select crowd in your safe space people that support me mixed in with
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more people that support me and say nicely you cannot stop me from getting inside i am cold and i am hard
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and my name is reality oh no not reality somebody stop him where these people are
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isolating themselves from reality and i want to talk about this because it has hugely deleterious
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psychological consequences to the individuals who are doing this this is not a mentally healthy
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thing to do and oh let's go over some some more memes before we go further here okay so next here we
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have mastodon x and threads kicking at someone and laughing at them and then they go to blue sky
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which i think shows how quickly they mastodon it seemed as blasted how do we just have their own
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little safe servers it doesn't work they'll never be satisfied with anything that's the thing they
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wanted to be able to lord their power over conservatives they didn't want to just be lording their power over
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each other oh so uh yeah okay and they they when they go to mastodon well who can they pick on but
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only other progressives and so they go on other progressives pick on them and they know that they're
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going to be picked on soon with it they're all going to leave blue sky soon i mean this is a
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all i love the progressives look at all the numbers that are leaving and we'll get into the numbers and
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i'm like well the numbers really aren't that big and they're not bigger than the numbers that went to
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mastodon so i don't know why you think it's going to work this time but have fun it turns out what
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you hate is each other you wanted an environment where you could bully someone who couldn't protect
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themselves yeah and now you're in an environment where you're the one being bullied they just have
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themselves to to eat yeah it is and i love you know when many people are talking and i actually think
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that this is really true about this it's a rick and morty meme here where morty's saying what shit
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is that and then rick says it's it's burp it's a new competitor to x it lets people post pictures
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and videos and write bits of text marketed as some kind of twitter thing as an alternative to that
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asshole elon musk platform and then morty says that's just instagram with extra steps and you know
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that's effing true by the way i don't think elon's an asshole elon's awesome but that that is true
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and we've mentioned this on other things more people will increasingly realize as elon is
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increasingly entering the public mind sure that he might be more awesome than you thought he was
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anyway here i'm gonna read a post by richard hanania which i thought was really awesome on this
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particular topic the left seems demoralized without twitter they're all just crying into the void
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there's no coordinated mechanism for them to encourage each other and respond to events
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fragmented media landscape hurts the mainstream media the left has lost their power do you want
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me to go into the statistics around blue sky before we talk more about it yeah i'm also like do you have
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details on how they were founded because why would twitter create a competitor to itself
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they did though because they were a giant bureaucratic company that was idiotic but yes essentially
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somebody i think one of the leadership team at twitter was like we need to create and i'll add
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more in in post blue sky began in 2019 as a research initiative at twitter led by then ceo jack dorsey
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the project was initially funded by twitter for 13 million dollars to begin development however blue sky
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was incorporated as an independent company called blue sky social in october 2021 it is a public benefit
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corporation the reason for twitter creating a competitor to itself was because it was likely
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never meant to be spin out i think it was spin out with the knowledge of a potential acquisition on hand
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so i suspect there's going to be lawsuits around this in the near future in addition to that the goal was
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to create something that was slightly more decentralized in the way twitter was operated however uh now that blue sky
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is running as essentially a twitter clone and competitor it is all centralized so what i mean by that is
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it's a technically a decentralized architecture that is all being controlled by one team and ran on one
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server making it functionally not decentralized at all i see okay okay by the way you know they call
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their tweets skeets skeets okay all right so since its launch blue sky has experienced significant gross
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initially available through an invite only beta in 2023 it opened to the public in 2024 and has
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rapidly gained users to passing 20 million by november 2024 the platform's growth has been fueled
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partially by dissatisfaction with changes on x under elon moss ownership however this represents a
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significant increase so if you're talking about like the users this year they have grown by 13 million
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users since october 2024 but remember they only recently launched before that the platform added one
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million users per day for eight consecutive days in november as of 2024 x formerly twitter has a
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substantial user base specifically so when people are like oh blue sky is so big right they've got 20
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million users x has 335.7 million users okay wow but the bigger problem comes in their active users okay
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okay because blue sky has been kind of fudging their active users when twitter says that has 335.7
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million active monthly users what is its active daily users the active daily users on x is 237.8 million
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the active daily users on blue sky right now at its absolute height is 3.5 million
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and that's a 300 percent increase since election day that before election day it was at around
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one million active users quiet backwater while twitter was 237.8 million active users wow basically blue sky is
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completely irrelevant yeah well i mean there is an argument to be made i don't think this is the
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case of blue sky but there's an argument to be made that very small social networks that have the right
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people on them like very high agency people in the world live players by samuel berger's definition
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are incredibly meaningful and are the only networks that matter but this is not that this is not that
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blue sky is like an automatic lefty opinion generator so i tried to like reload the front
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page a few times to one find out what type of reach you get if you're a famous person on blue sky
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and to understand like okay what type of things are they talking about on blue sky so i'll put here
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two random front pages i got the first was it is the top post on blue sky at the time was mark cuban
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saying remember new users are coming on daily unsure of engagement the more posts you like
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and reply to the stronger the platform becomes exclamation mark so mark cuban is shilling blue
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sky did he like become like shadow elon musk like the dark pathetic version of him because he sided with
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the lefties and elon musk actually had the ball side was the side that was standing justice and love
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pretty funny yeah oh no i think that that's what happened is he thought he was doing the right
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thing and initially he historically has been somewhat based at least but now he's sort of
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stuck in lefty sphere and being like discount elon musk and so he is and you'll see him a lot like
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when i look at blue sky he's a lot the top poster he's sort of like to twitter where you see elon's
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tweets all the times and you're like i did not ask for this he has blue skies version of elon musk tweets
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and it's like sad shilling and then what's the one under that it's under grateful deadpool
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and it goes this needs to be said aloud and often can i tell you a secret i don't care if there are
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undocumented immigrants in this country i think it's a non-issue without social security numbers
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they're not getting the welfare people claim they're getting in the vast majority of them are
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normal people trying to live a better life by the way this isn't true there are many ways you can get
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government assistance without a social security number a lot of illegal aliens are getting government
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assistance but this person's an idiot they're eating the dogs they're eating the cats eat the cat
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eat eat the cat they're eating the dogs they're eating the cats eat the cat eat the cat
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the springfield ohio police department has debunked this very bizarre and very hateful
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eat the cat eat the cat eat the cat eat the cat eat the cat actually one thing that i i heard
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recently read is that the un has been giving prepaid debit cards to many migrants and oh what's
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the word for people fleeing countries refugees to move prepaid debit cards to come to the united
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no the un the united nations so that is using some taxpayer dollars from people in the u.s because
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the u.s supports the united nations so yeah there's a lot of different forms of aid that people receive
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and it's not necessarily directly from the u.s government but it can be from u.s taxpayers nonetheless
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yeah no it's just ridiculous and so by the way like how many likes are these things getting
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right so with the top one the top one on the platforms right now you're looking at 3.6k likes
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and 12.3k likes basically no one is seeing this shit okay and what else because i love that people
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are like oh no it's not just lefty nonsense and like self-congratulatory all right here's another one
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okay what what happened the next time i loaded it right it's a meme of scientists and a huge
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crowd of scientists and somebody saying yes you all are wrong and then it says a man who saw a youtube
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video and it's like well if you understand how much the scientific community is held hostage by the
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memetic virus you would be like yeah that makes perfect sense i know lots of scientists who don't
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feel comfortable saying anything against the virus and then okay what's the next one well the next one on
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the platform is a guy saying tim walt need a podcast to help get us through the next four years do you
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agree and then the next is an onion article which appears on there all the time so no it is just lefty
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slop and it's something you would only go to if you only wanted lefty slop well they need a safe space
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safe space because keep in mind so this the the the hyper progressive left community anyway like
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uniquely and disproportionately sees any interaction or exposure to someone who is non-compliant in terms
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of um ideology and belief as being like infection like like a zombie and infectious disease you you can't
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go near it or you get tainted my name is reality oh no not reality somebody stop him in the same room
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as someone declared by the woke mind virus as an enemy a racist whatever because by doing so you
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you will yourself be somehow tainted or ruined or whatever because i guess they'll change your mind
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that easily but that would make sense right i mean that's yeah that is what is implied by that
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not by us but by that ideology so i'll tell you another reason why a lot of people are leaving next
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okay and this is like actually more comical to me the stupidity of this the new x contract allows for
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it to be used and what's posted to be used for ai scraping and people everything's been scraped like
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up to how what do you think people have been using for ai training data so far why would you not want
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your information scraped for a ai is going to be the dominant player in human civilization going forward
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the stuff created by ai that is going to be counter scraped by other ai is the stuff that the foundations
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of our descendants millions of years from now is going to be based on you are lucky that you get
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the chance to conceivably possibly contribute to stuff that ai is going to scrape hold on though
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you're telling me the blue sky doesn't allow this right uh no they don't allow ai scraping because then
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that's a feature not a bug that means that like a leftist like no but so a blue sky itself isn't
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building an ai model and scraping data on the platform to build an ai model in the same way x is
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with grok it however does not prevent other parties from scraping its data for ai building
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i wish it did because i agree with what simone's saying here how cool would it be if we trapped
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all of the leftists in a little bubble and prevented all of their slop from making it into ai training
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sets the point being is many of them are idiotically leaving twitter because of this and i'm like
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i i right now we reached out to the non-profit that runs the pile or it's like an ai company that this
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is a big training data set i'm like can i give you our training data for all our episodes and our
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books uh because i will give that to anyone training ai yeah anyone anyone who's opting out of ai
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training data is opting out of being part of reality in the future that is it's i can't understand it
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that's crazy right no it literally is it is it is memetically taking a gun and shooting yourself in the
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head it's it's emptying out of relevance why would all the horses start running and one of the horses
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is just like i'm like what the did you do that for yeah i don't want to race for other people's
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amusement i'm like well that's what you were bred for you
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oh my god yeah but it's one of these things where it's not like and i point this out to people who don't
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understand what all this means they're like oh ai is like taking like artists jobs it's like no it's
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taking humanity's job to a large extent if you opt yourself out of ai training data that isn't not
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letting somebody they look at it like somebody's like copying them or cheating off of their homework
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that's like you get to be the cognition or an aspect of the cognition of the future of humanity
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and you are opting out of that it's not ideal that's crazy so yeah i uh i i want to talk about
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the psychological effects of something like blue sky as well i don't like by any stretcher in any way
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i'm a medically isolating yourself i think that it can lead to really toxic behavior and it has done so in
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the past so that scares me but it also just it makes me sad because we're looking at a social
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group here that is uniquely unwilling to engage with outsiders and this is just another example
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of it and these are people who have cut friends out of their lives we've had plenty of people cut
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us out of their lives because we hold views that are considered non-compliant and these are people who
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already are buying in to an ideology and culture that atomizes them that separates them from their
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communities that replaces religion with therapists that replaces community with you know paid child
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care and paid elder care and that replaces friends with social media scrolling and here you
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have another example of of now even more exposure to the outside world being cut off even more friends
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being cut off and it just it makes me sad to see these people increasingly isolated increasingly alone
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because you hear people talking about the loneliness epidemic and this group caring about the well-being
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of people at least performatively at least believing they care does worry about loneliness does worry about
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sadness and just to see that they like keep making it worse makes me sad and plus also this is just
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another condemnation or endorsement on their part of this this concept that any criticism any bullying any like
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bad mouthing or teasing is a harmful act of violence when really like the whole point of exchanging ideas is
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that there has to be disagreement it's not interesting if there's no disagreement and hearing these memes
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that you're showing like it's it's people are leaving x because they don't like that people there sometimes
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don't agree with them don't give them uh a participation trophy for the desire for constant
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affirmation and the expectation psychologically of constant affirmation causes gigantic negative
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deleterious effects and it reminds me of like the parents who freak out on me for not giving my kids
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constant affirmation i recently got in trouble not for bopping just for yanking my kid out of a an environment
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because he stole something from another kid and i was like okay we're going home and and two moms like
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chased me out and we're like how dare you punish your child and i was like do you not understand like
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the negative consequences that will happen to your child's brain if he never experiences somebody
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being angry at him if he never experiences punishment if he never experiences boundaries and
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they're like well i would just sit him down and explain that it's not very nice and i'm like this is
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what blue sky is it's the people who are yeah but also like lady what do you think we spent the
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morning doing like we also coached the the kids ahead of leaving like if we're going to a shared
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space here are the boundaries here are the things you can't do uh because they also had a they
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developed a reputation of being the child equivalent of wedding crashers like they kept going to other
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kids birthday parties and well because the parents don't turn them away it's horrifying my kids will hang
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out around the arcade and wait for somebody to pay for a game for them and i'm like stop feeding the
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bears if you feed the bears the bears are going to expect food
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yeah not ideal we'll do a whole episode on this particular topic but like it is deeply disappointing
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to me and i hadn't realized how far the inspection had spread and how pathetic most parents were
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in terms of discipline in terms of and this wasn't me bopping the kid this is me just
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grabbing a child who was leaving now yeah in an in an angry tone to something that the kid went in
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saying i have only one rule i know this rule i won't do this still did it our kids like pushing
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boundaries and that's what kids should do our kids should push boundaries but the problem is
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and boundary pushing and play and all that is a core part of child development it is very important
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but the whole point of that is that they learn where the boundaries are the boundaries yeah
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like you remove all the boundary there do you not see that you're going to scramble the Roomba's brain
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if you keep a Roomba from ever hitting a wall do you not do you think that's going to be good
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for the programming of the Roomba yeah then the Roomba goes into the real world and goes straight
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off a cliff right into a busy road like i don't know just just bad this is bad it's bad i don't
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like it it's sad and pathetic and i'm really like yeah i can give you is there you have a what gossip
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what gossip two fun pieces of gossip okay so one was in a previous episode we had been like
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talking about like i bet that like blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth line
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like that doesn't mean we right the way that a lot of people take it to me yeah it means like
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i look it up you know what it actually means oh what like in the original yeah no what in Greek what
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the word meant as it was written in its original form okay the the word meant people with self-control
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uh uh it was specifically used to describe tamed horses is it blessed are the disciplined
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yes blessed are the self-disciplined for they shall inherit the earth oh that's that's great
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that's i love where did meek come from what kind of psyops was that that's the in psyops right there
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that is wow okay who okay so here's another fun thing so ellen degenerate you know she's leaving the
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us oh she's actually going to good for her someone needs to go to canada or apparently she's planning
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to go anyway because even progressives hate her now um so she had this show that was like semi-popular
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and then it turned out that she was a terrible human being i so love that you and i don't have
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to worry about that like we are so open about like we punish our kids we expect good things for them
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that's the worst thing you're gonna find on us i think that the important thing is you set expectations
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low and then surpass them and then you're okay the problem is that everyone just assumed she was the
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nicest person in the entire world because she ended every show was and being nice well and like she
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didn't she play dory and finding nemo just like you just assume that she's going to be this like
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super nice doesn't have a mean thought in her entire you know soul which is just not human
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apparently she's like the meanest human being ever born she would have problems all these people who
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have like friendly like rachel ray is famous for this too you know she had this cheerful brand and
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then like you know she wants privacy at a restaurant or something and you know people freak out and lose
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their minds because god forbid the one she's she's gotten people fired for saying hey how was your day
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she got a she got a a she tried to get somebody fired from a restaurant because they served her with
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chipped nail paint not like chipped on her food it just wasn't perfect nails oh no um she has like
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oh god damn it not again we'll get you you bitch and i think i actually watched your hbo special oh
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that's that is really bad well and the left to realize this and so she was deciding and she talked
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about it before she was going to leave the country anyway but now she's saying she's doing it because
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of trump and everyone's like well that's wonderful oh so now she gets some redemption
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even at like the top of like reddit the the far lefty brain and i don't like a conservative subreddit
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on our advice animals you're like oh that's okay i'm glad to see you go ellen oh no oh no poor ellen
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she's just a person i don't think so she's a person who utilized her power to hurt and dunk on
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people who she saw as less powerful than herself and wants affirmation in spite of that
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people who do that are bad that sounds just extremely human people who do that are people
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but like you in the entire time i've known you have ever tried to attack somebody weaker than
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yourself i'm not a human i'm an autist we don't have souls as your mother made clear i don't count
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this doesn't matter well okay here's the question i experience love do i ever lash out at people who
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are obviously weaker than us simone ever you just miss them all the time you'd have a terrible
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reputation but i don't try to hurt them no you don't try to hurt them no i it's sorry when she says i
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dismiss them she's like i have this thing that's like a muggle when it sees magic when i'm talking to
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somebody who i know doesn't matter like my eyes yeah and you're just like you try to end the
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conversation really fast or like find some way to walk away quickly and it's super obvious to them
00:28:18.400
that you think which is tough because like they're they're even fans of like our podcast to like try to
00:28:23.840
engage with you and then they like immediately know like oh god welcome thinks i don't matter because
00:28:28.880
you like suddenly can't see them anymore and you like it really it's not that i think they don't
00:28:33.920
matter simone the problem is i know they don't matter no i'm just trying to spend the little time
00:28:39.200
i have in this world judiciously yeah but anyway like that wouldn't get you points as a famous person
00:28:46.080
but i guess the important thing is back to my point is that if you set expectations very low and then you
00:28:53.120
turn out to be like an okay person then you're okay if you set expectations high and everyone expects
00:28:59.600
you to be glen to the good witch or whatever like super nice then they get disappointed when
00:29:04.320
you aren't that which is so yeah but we've made all our flaws known so hopefully yeah
00:29:11.280
when we get doing famous people saying because we get and some people are like oh my god these
00:29:16.720
people are so desperate to become famous and it's like yeah our goal was a lot of this the only people
00:29:22.880
who are saying that are people who haven't achieved any level of fame yet they even have already
00:29:27.440
achieved fame they're like i really appreciate your guys hustle like i like your content and i
00:29:31.840
appreciate how much you hustle at this and how much you know you projected this but also you know when
00:29:38.160
you've got three guardian articles about us this year a wall street journal piece it seems like a new
00:29:43.120
york time piece do you think they're still going to publish that what happened to the new york
00:29:47.120
chinese person i don't know i don't know yeah but we'll be there soon oh one thing that asma gold
00:29:55.280
said about ellen that i really take to heart about our own careers and i want you to remember this simone
00:30:01.280
is at one point she took time off because she was being attacked publicly and asma gold said that's
00:30:06.720
the decens never ever ever take a break no you you never well one it never apologize but
00:30:14.080
also like don't disappear he said that too yeah he said never apologize unless you mean it
00:30:20.080
yeah yeah i mean if you if you if you made a mistake but also like yeah there's things i regret i
00:30:25.040
regret selling our own bitcoin and telling other people when we when we did but i don't personally
00:30:31.680
regret that but i know that you do we made the most optimal decision given the information we had at
00:30:36.560
the time at least i i don't regret it given the context because we told people to buy in at less
00:30:43.040
than 50 percent that like like less than half that price so anyone who bought it when we told them to
00:30:46.960
would have more trouble their money and as to why i was okay with selling out then because many people
00:30:53.200
i i guess i didn't fully explain my logic camel had said she was pro bitcoin and trump was known as
00:30:58.400
pro bitcoin so i didn't expect a bump in bitcoin when the president was elected because i assumed
00:31:04.320
both candidates had signaled a pro bitcoin status so that was priced in in addition to that my assumption was
00:31:11.760
that the rise in bitcoin price cycle would be less than other cycles because the happening mattered less
00:31:19.760
to the new supply and thus to the amount of bitcoin on the market and in addition to that my assumption
00:31:26.400
was that if in any cycle the peak of the cycle was lower or around the peak of the cycle before
00:31:33.440
the price of bitcoin would almost immediately collapse and i didn't want to risk that with something that was
00:31:38.880
such a ginormous portion of our portfolio and it was absolutely enormous in terms of our wealth that
00:31:43.760
was invested in bitcoin so i am okay with it because it's better than losing everything welcome we made
00:31:50.080
money and we reduced downside risk again like i don't i don't see the problem here we made the most optimal
00:31:56.080
to shit like there and there there could have been information that i didn't have that obviously had i had
00:32:00.560
it i would have made a different decision but the the whole thing is like in terms of of thinking but i admit
00:32:06.880
when i'm wrong and i was super wrong about that and i'm embarrassed about it but i won't remove the
00:32:10.880
episode you didn't make the wrong decision you just made a call that turned out to
00:32:16.400
not yield the the top payout i'm embarrassed when i'm wrong i want i want people to know people who train
00:32:23.520
people in playing like professional poker a very big bugaboo that they frequently have is the person
00:32:29.440
plays as optimally as they can then they lose the hand or that round or whatever i don't know how to play
00:32:34.080
poker and they're like oh well i'm i lost so i must have done something wrong and no technically
00:32:39.840
they did everything absolutely right sometimes you just don't have enough information to have made a
00:32:46.240
winning play um and and that's that is that is how it goes that doesn't mean that you did it wrong
00:32:52.640
that means that like a lot didn't have it that you know or you didn't have the right information to do
00:32:57.760
that so i'm now there are things that we could have done like i could have maybe researched more
00:33:03.040
like asked more people for advice or something so yeah i mean there's always more that we can do and
00:33:08.800
it is our fault in the end for anything that we do anything that that goes wrong it's going to be our
00:33:12.720
fault but like i'm just saying i don't have any regrets because i'm pretty like i did no i think that
00:33:19.760
we did like as i've been replaying it to my mind i think the risk that many people aren't
00:33:24.240
considering is if this cycle didn't top out significantly higher than the last cycle there
00:33:29.280
would have been an immediate collapse in the price and that's what i was trying to avoid given
00:33:34.240
how much of our portfolio was but this morning or like last night maybe someone on x sent us a meme
00:33:39.600
of like how people who sold their bitcoin before the election feel it was like this gif i think maybe
00:33:45.360
from oppenheimer it looks like it was from oppenheimer it's just like the protagonist like everyone's
00:33:50.640
congratulating him and celebrating and he's just like has this thousand mile stare
00:33:56.080
i just said it to you i really don't mind when crypto goes up i always want even when we don't
00:34:00.720
own it crypto to go up because when crypto goes up good people with good political opinions have more
00:34:05.040
money yeah and they're spending money on stuff yeah dude yeah i'm all for it it's great and actually a
00:34:12.000
point that the guys on the online podcast are making to be reducing like dumb regulatory bloat because
00:34:17.920
keep in mind like to invest in businesses and you know to be an investor you have to be an accredited
00:34:23.040
investor at this point right and yet you're allowed to gamble you're allowed to go to vegas you're
00:34:28.080
allowed to do sports betting in most states in the united states you're you're allowed to buy bitcoin
00:34:33.920
and you can't invest in businesses like that is insane by the way people who want to buy into gpus
00:34:39.840
let us know we're doing uh uh play in this space it looks like it might have like a 50 ir a year
00:34:45.520
over year but we'll see but that's what the data says that's what the historic data says which is
00:34:49.920
pretty effing crazy anyway simone any any other points you want to make on our general a lot of
00:34:56.560
people like our general random chat yeah which you used to be quite opposed to who knew
00:35:02.400
well i think there's not a lot of models out there for what like loving smart couples say to each
00:35:10.320
other well i was reading another article recently that was posted in some like san francisco
00:35:17.600
newspaper about apologetic risk or selection and it started by talking about us and the fact that we do
00:35:23.200
it but it's like gonna backfire and it's terrible and it's the it's a very common argument made by
00:35:29.920
typically progressive commentators that apologetic risk or selection is new and who even knows if it
00:35:36.960
works and so like basically per their belief set they're like okay well maybe it doesn't even work
00:35:43.200
this is still new who knows like it's just risks anyway nothing is guaranteed and like how could you
00:35:50.080
put it on these children like now they're growing up with these insane expectations like this is
00:35:55.760
irresponsible parenting and then i think like they're not criticizing that the progressive
00:36:02.800
democrats today are republicans from the 1990s well you know where they're criticizing they're not
00:36:08.000
criticizing like chinese families that have like they're you know they try to have a kid during like
00:36:12.480
the year of the tiger or dragon or something oh yeah you know or anyone who's like looking at like
00:36:16.800
auspicious dates and all these other things and and i'm like but but you know what ultimately if you
00:36:22.240
were to ask a progressive person behind closed doors like okay well yeah but what about like
00:36:26.320
all the people who are having kids like on auspicious dates or other other ways that they you know that
00:36:31.600
they don't think are science-based they don't think are like realistic but leave those kids with
00:36:35.920
expectations and they'd be like well yeah i don't really support those either but like then what do they
00:36:40.000
support like waiting until you're 37 panicking trying to have a kid at great like physical and personal
00:36:46.800
expense like only managing to have one child getting super stressed about your career kind of stepping
00:36:52.160
back kind of not like their their option their plan for parenting is not very good and it's just insane
00:36:59.360
to me that like they would shit on both like the the culture of the tech entrepreneur who like okay fine
00:37:07.360
like if if pgt doesn't it's pgdp doesn't work which by the way it's this is very like science-based
00:37:13.040
is very obviously does like assuming they're right right like assuming they're right it's just our
00:37:18.240
culture like let us do let us do our version of horoscope all right like why why do you have to
00:37:24.800
like dunk on our culture especially when your culture doesn't work for you so it just made me
00:37:28.320
mad to see that article but oh my god came up and started yelling at me about like the way i was
00:37:34.240
because i punished our kids i was like but like look at the suicide rates like obviously society isn't
00:37:39.760
working right now and she's like don't pass it on don't pass like like break the cycle for the next
00:37:45.120
generation do you want your kids to treat their kids this way i was like obviously i do yeah i want
00:37:51.040
my kids to punish their kids are you out of your mind lady and she was horrified by this i was like
00:37:58.000
i'm not punishing my kids because i lost my tipper i'm punishing my kids because kids need punishment
00:38:04.080
kids need boundaries kids need boundaries i don't i i don't really believe in punishment i believe in
00:38:14.000
showing you where the wall is and and doing that artificially when the real world is is not yet a
00:38:20.320
safe place for that to happen right like the real world is the kid runs into the street when i was
00:38:25.520
taking the kids out of the place when i went to find octavian when i went to find him he was pretending to
00:38:31.360
bite some like teenager's leg and they were like oh my god whose child is this our kids are savages
00:38:38.800
they are they're savages but yeah like so in the real world your kid runs into the street they die
00:38:44.640
like parents don't punish they provide walls that are more gentle than the real world and and consequences
00:38:51.360
that are more gentle than the real world and then they hopefully prepare children for the real world so
00:38:56.320
that they don't run into the road and die like i don't know i just
00:39:01.920
everyone has their own parenting methods and quite frankly those parenting methods are probably
00:39:06.960
appropriate barring toxic monoculture culture but they're probably good for the kids talking to you
00:39:14.160
she was so proud and i was like well this is going to cause mental health issues for our kids if i do
00:39:18.000
this she goes you didn't know this about me but i have mental health issues she was very proud of this
00:39:24.800
fact like she thought she was like getting this like in on me like i had just made a major social
00:39:30.480
faux pas i know my head i'm being like yeah 70 of the women in your generation think they have mental
00:39:34.720
health issues like they identify as one of the massive part of their personality that's not surprising
00:39:40.800
if you are basic is as basic millennials are just like screwed up um self-diagnosed
00:39:47.120
diagnosed i get a bonk stick i really want like a doge bonk stick whenever i'm talking to someone who's
00:39:52.800
so you should and it just like appear that in the word i could go bonk bonk bonk bonk
00:40:03.120
oh god what well i remember for the boring company when they sold those limited edition
00:40:08.880
flamethrowers it'd be great if there was like limited edition doge merch that could like help
00:40:13.280
to fund the employment for the program yeah i'd like that this child simone you're not beating her
00:40:19.200
or not she's just wiggly she has wiggles that she has to get out of her system i really like you
00:40:26.800
i really like teddy bear suits for infants why would you not just like have a teddy bear right
00:40:37.680
yeah like it's it's just you is knock up a woman or get up women
00:40:44.800
anyway that's your duty i love you very much malcolm and i'm going to start your slow cooker
00:40:53.120
beef you're okay with chopped onions right do you want long bits or do you want confetti
00:40:59.040
confetti chopped onion confetti and the two packs of rendang and the coconut milk and the chopped beef
00:41:08.400
and the not only one can i think you need at least two cans or else i need to put in chicken broth or
00:41:13.120
tomato at least two cans of what coconut milk oh then put in two cans i just thought that one can
00:41:19.200
would be fine you got a lot of beef is it okay that i cube it because i just think it's going to cook
00:41:25.360
better if i cube it you said you wanted whatever you think is best i just think that when i stir it
00:41:29.680
it'll break down faster if it's sheets and then you don't have to cut twice but if you want a cube
00:41:35.760
instead of sheets that's fine for me all right i'll do sheets i understand what you're saying
00:41:39.520
is like sort of the cleaving is easier of the cleaving will happen as i stir it and if it's
00:41:44.400
cubed you might get more cubes lasting for longer in the yeah and then you'll never you'll never let me
00:41:50.320
live it down will you i'm just trying to explain to you how to best create a mess the goal with our
00:41:57.440
slow cooking is to create something where the meat totally breaks down and creates a meat slurry
00:42:02.800
which can be eaten like a forever stew and then i reheat it in various other dishes
00:42:08.560
which goes into fried rice it goes into taquitos it goes into well what i'm going to do the first
00:42:15.120
night that it's ready so tomorrow night is we're going to try those viral smashed potatoes which
00:42:19.760
almost come out kind of like chips mashed potatoes yeah so i think you parboil them and then you bake
00:42:24.640
them and there's a lot of butter involved that's why they're amazing but you smash like parboiled
00:42:29.120
potatoes under like a glass so they get smashed and sort of flattened and then you bake them
00:42:33.760
and then they come out like crispy and delicious so you know i want to tell you something do you know
00:42:40.880
how many guys would kill for a wife like you i mean literally kill i am not surprised if i end up dying
00:42:48.000
because of somebody who wishes they could be married to you i think a lot of humans would just literally
00:42:52.480
kill if they were given the option like the ultimate sport so i don't know how much i would do that you
00:42:57.440
know that yeah you wouldn't you wouldn't have to kill for anything you would just kill
00:43:07.120
oh like at the risk of being there's this happened to a lot of youtube couples
00:43:13.680
what do you mean he's like that wife is too good for that man
00:43:17.120
oh that someone's gonna try to kill you yeah i think that you think it's after seeing the number
00:43:22.720
i don't think that i think it's gonna be in our house no no i doubt that also like i'm i'm i'm
00:43:29.680
famously you know ugly online four slash three apparently but if margaret robbie's mid i you're
00:43:36.480
obsessive fans simone oh i i don't think they would like me for my looks they're kind of like the ones
00:43:41.760
who are like i would yeah they might like you they might like you for your personality and dedication
00:43:48.880
to being a great wife oh thanks well i don't i don't like you for that i want to be clear i think
00:43:54.960
that you're pretty disgusting but yeah you like me for i like you only for your looks
00:44:00.800
i've i've learned this from girls i've dated in the past yes there's only one answer that you can
00:44:10.800
give to a woman which is i like you because you're irresistibly beautiful and young looking
00:44:23.520
oh my gosh son you are a delightful person can i just like i don't say that enough
00:44:28.080
oh yeah like you don't say it like 10 times every how often do i tell you that i appreciate you
00:44:36.880
i mean multiple times a day like at least five times every night but that's only at night time
00:44:43.600
that's after the sun has set so before then you're the most loving and affectionate
00:44:51.200
husband out there which is insane because normally like the high value ones are just kind of cold and
00:44:55.440
like they understand their values so they don't have to reciprocate i appreciate yeah i don't have
00:45:00.960
wives who make them amazing dishes see something online and they're like oh this is a popular dish
00:45:06.000
on the on the tiktoks i'm gonna see if i can make this for my husband i mean yeah because our kids don't
00:45:14.320
eat anything good i like make all these amazing things for you and i hope the kids will eat it and
00:45:18.400
then they're like where are my dinosaur nuggets where's the pizza well if they're not dinosaur
00:45:23.920
nuggets they're not real dinosaurs simone this is a kid did you did you forget who you bred with
00:45:30.400
yeah no i i mean i keep in mind i did not eat vegetables until i was like 16 years old i only ate
00:45:37.040
like bland not even tall so i wouldn't eat mashed potatoes even i would only eat the like reconstituted
00:45:45.360
flakes if it was like what do you think about us being over five million views oh that's
00:45:54.560
i can't really think about it because it's we're getting to stupid numbers like i can't
00:45:59.360
make sense of that a human isn't capable of wrapping their head around that kind of
00:46:04.880
size of a group you know so it just becomes like more than i can comprehend and we've had
00:46:14.000
it's a lot of people it's a stupidly large amount of people you guys shouldn't be watching
00:46:20.720
this this is a kid making farting noises and a wife and a husband jacking off about how terrible
00:46:27.440
blue sky is yeah okay well i'll let it go and i'll start your dinner but i love you malcolm taquitos tonight
00:46:34.080
right taquitos tonight yeah hey don't forget to put mostly cheese basically the the the meat is a
00:46:40.560
flavoring agent exactly it's a spice god and wrap them tight because i'm trying to get a lot of crunch
00:46:47.360
there for everything maximum crunch minimum meat and we got more tortillas so do not be stingy with the
00:46:56.880
tortillas okay do you want any leftovers or should i just take a tiny tiny amount of meat
00:47:05.360
any leftovers yeah like do you want leftover taquitos to snack on during the day whatever
00:47:09.600
you think is good i i'd have them tomorrow i'd have them today whatever you think is good okay great
00:47:15.360
thank you love you love you bye i was thinking this this morning about your musings as a team that
00:47:27.840
you could use cult tactics to brainwash yourself into doing good things i mean if a cult can make
00:47:34.880
totally logical even very smart and successful people do things that are very damaging to themselves
00:47:39.760
despite them being you know very difficult things then you could probably brainwash yourself into
00:47:45.120
doing stuff that you want for yourself and i'm like well how else can we maybe apply this to help people
00:47:50.800
do things that are good for them and i was just thinking about like all these not like mediocre marriages
00:47:58.400
especially where women like just aren't that into their husbands and like get resentful and things like
00:48:03.440
that and then i was thinking about popular romance genres and i was like oh wait so enemies to lovers
00:48:10.320
is a really popular genre like could you possibly create some kind of regimen whereby women start like
00:48:20.480
building this own enemies to lovers fantasy like if already they're getting resentful of their husbands
00:48:26.400
and like getting all machiavellian and stuff then why not like turn it into something that like in the
00:48:32.240
end goes full circle and they end up like madly in love with their husbands after like super enemying
00:48:37.440
them like i i think it's possible well no here's why it doesn't work okay when women enemy their
00:48:43.840
husbands they also degrade them and recontextualize them as lower status not yeah no no but yeah but
00:48:49.600
you have to be very concerted about it so you'd have to do like an enemies to lovers and of like
00:48:53.840
well then i'm gonna be where you have to you have to shanghai them into a pygmalion relationship by
00:48:59.520
the definition of our pragmatist guides to relationship so you have to be like well i hate
00:49:04.240
him so much i'm just gonna exploit him and make him the best possible husband and like help him
00:49:10.000
succeed so that i can make tons of money off of him and then it doesn't work that way once they have
00:49:15.520
degraded their husband even if even if they plan on investing in their husband to make him a better
00:49:20.240
person because i feel like you don't understand you don't understand once they see a man in that way
00:49:27.280
they can never see him in any other way really because i feel like there are lots of there are
00:49:31.760
plenty of relationships that end and then like a woman sees her husband thrive after like he gets
00:49:36.800
rid of his dad yeah it doesn't work until they've left him and they're jealous so i have seen many
00:49:42.480
women who look down with their husband super big deal and then they weren't able to see that or
00:49:47.520
contextualize that can we can we can we skip the leaving part we're like the marriage stays together and
00:49:52.960
we like get the woman to go yeah if he's sleeping with other women if he's no that's what triggers
00:50:01.840
it for them they're like oh other women yeah social yeah but but if the man's going through a dumpy
00:50:08.160
phase it's a lot harder for him to women look to where other women are looking to the social
00:50:13.680
group yeah there's some great studies on this actually as a man like it's much easier to pick up
00:50:19.920
women with a wedding ring than it is without a wedding ring if you're going out there hitting
00:50:23.440
on women put on a wedding ring because they view that as a sign of i forget the word but it's like
00:50:28.800
like social proof social proof yeah it's social signaling so and you can pick up a wedding ring
00:50:33.280
on amazon for like 10 and 11 dollars because we just buy them in bulk at this point because malcolm
00:50:39.200
keeps losing them so you can do it guys if you're single and you just need to
00:50:43.360
you know i'm not i have never lost a wedding ring in my week like i must have lost it was in this
00:50:51.120
house 60 wedding rings at this point or something like that like a large number and we have no idea
00:50:57.920
where they're going one day like literally we're gonna hit like a floorboard or something and a bunch
00:51:03.520
of rings are just gonna come pouring out because it'll turn out that tourist den who keeps stealing
00:51:07.280
them from you by the way he really does like stealing them from me he's asked me for a wedding ring himself
00:51:11.920
and i said i can get him a little one for him and he goes but then it won't be big like daddy and
00:51:15.200
mommy's oh he's a sweet kid last night he's like can i hold those two batteries for daddy and mommy
00:51:24.720
and he wanted to like take them into his bed he just wants to hold batteries that's all he wants
00:51:28.640
in this little world just holds his little battery like torsten those batteries have chemicals that
00:51:33.440
can kill little children like you and he's like
00:51:35.520
what did he say something about like killer batteries he's like can i have the killer
00:51:43.040
batteries who wants them he doesn't he just understands now that they're dangerous but he
00:51:54.400
he he rubbed me against his face you know the whole rock thing
00:51:57.360
yeah he like took my hand and was like like he's just he's he's he loves rubbing the things he
00:52:06.080
loves against his face yeah the autism is strong with this one yeah i love him so much all right
00:52:11.360
so simone i sent you a collection of memes thank you go to the bottom one so the the most recent
00:52:17.200
one which is just a post and then we'll go through the memes in just a second okay hi so right now it's
00:52:22.880
just a post on blue sky which we'll be talking about later but yes okay so mark cubans on blue sky
00:52:28.960
yes we'll talk about it and he's shilling it a lot it's creepy oh okay
00:52:52.880
sword that sounds exciting don't do that torsen or you'll break the uh ornaments