Based Camp - Chinese Fertility Falling Faster Than Expected： Are “Chads” to Blame？

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. We are here again with more shocking stats on how quickly fertility rates

00:00:07.900 are falling in some parts of the world. The latest ones that really got me, and honestly,

00:00:13.100 whenever I look at the Chinese numbers, I'm always just flabbergasted at how bad things are. 1.00

00:00:18.420 And I should point out here, just so people are under no illusions here, because there is this

00:00:22.320 popular myth that Chinese fertility rates are falling because of the one-child policy. This

00:00:29.220 is a myth, okay? Chinese fertility rates are not, they are falling much faster now than under the

00:00:36.620 one-child policy. They are much lower now than they were under the one-child policy. They did not fall

00:00:42.540 because of the one-child policy. They fell due to a few issues that we are going to be discussing

00:00:47.560 that are actually very similar to some of the issues that Korea and Japan have with their

00:00:52.400 fertility rates. Would you like to know more?

00:00:55.480 And in a way, are tied to being too conservative, which is really interesting and goes back to this

00:01:00.440 Arya Babu study that we've mentioned before, which shows that in Europe, the more conservative a

00:01:05.540 country is on average, the lower their fertility rate, while the more conservative a population

00:01:10.920 group is in a country is, the higher their fertility rate, which goes against them, but a lot of people

00:01:14.780 will assume is the case. So this shocking statistic that I saw that really got to me and was that

00:01:20.920 over the past 10 years, so from 2022 back to 2012, the number of babies born in China per year

00:01:30.760 dropped from 16 million all the way down to only 10 million. Over a 10-year period, that is a 37.5%

00:01:43.800 decline. That is stunning and shocking.

00:01:53.460 Wow. Wow. But it gets more interesting than this. It's not like China isn't trying to prevent this

00:02:00.140 decline right now. And why this is all relevant is I actually think it's very relevant to the United

00:02:05.940 States, and it's very relevant to some of the reproductive strategies men have decided to reactively

00:02:12.740 and really begin to attempt, and I think due to the rise of feminism and an overcorrection for that. 1.00

00:02:20.020 And I think that it is these strategies that we see mirrored sort of what happens to the populations

00:02:26.500 that adopt them. We see that in what's going on in China right now, in what's going on in Korea right

00:02:33.040 now. So Simone, you had read an article. I'd love you to go into this.

00:02:35.920 Yeah. I mean, what got me thinking about this was I got a Google alert because we have a demographic

00:02:42.020 collapse. Google alert, of course, for an article on Business Insider India, so totally random,

00:02:48.560 titled, Chinese women are fed up with Xi Jinping's attempts to make them have more and more kids. 0.99

00:02:54.060 And the article talks about how basically the CCP has had, like, they've made speeches. They've said,

00:03:00.800 we need to create a new trend of family. And they're trying to create matchmaking events and 1.00

00:03:07.480 get more people to get married. And Xi said he wants the Chinese people to, quote, actively cultivate

00:03:14.560 a new culture of marriage and childbearing to strengthen guidance on young people's view on

00:03:19.300 marriage, childbirth, and family. And then the article talks about it basically, like, Chinese women

00:03:25.480 aren't having it. But Chinese women are pushing back. I can't afford to take care of anything else 1.00

00:03:30.140 aside from my parents and work, Molly Chen told the Wall Street Journal. So there's just basically,

00:03:36.840 like, women, to a great extent, are like, they're hearing what the government is saying. They're also,

00:03:41.580 like, well aware that their access to reproductive choice is being removed. But they're just not,

00:03:49.640 they're not going to comply. I think this is going to be another lying flat issue.

00:03:52.520 And the article does note also that there has been a meaningful decline, not just in births,

00:03:57.960 but in registered marriages. So they fell from 13 million to 2013, to 6.8 million in 2022.

00:04:07.860 13 million to 6.8 million? How far apart were those two numbers? 10 years?

00:04:12.560 So yeah, 2013, 13 million. 2022, 6.8 million. So almost falling in half, like cutting in half.

00:04:22.120 This is. Holy shit. I know. And I was looking to see with all of China's efforts to try to get 1.00

00:04:27.500 their fertility rate up again, I couldn't find this year's statistics because, well, here's the name

00:04:32.660 of an article. China deletes leaked stats showing plunging birth rate for 2023. Because like, how bad

00:04:38.440 they do in 2023? Apparently so bad that China's now trying to scrub the internet of how bad they're 0.95

00:04:44.000 doing in 2023. And so we have talked about some things that lead to this in China, right? One of

00:04:51.160 the things that we've talked about that leads to this in China is just a lack of hope. Why does

00:04:55.120 Israel have a high fertility rate despite its economic prosperity? When Israelis are pressuring 0.99

00:05:00.460 other Israelis to have kids, it's not so that the entrenched power structure of their country can

00:05:05.600 maintain their wealth. It's because they believe they're in an existential battle for their survival.

00:05:10.520 When the Chinese CCP government tells your average Chinese teen, go have kids, that person is like,

00:05:16.420 what? So you can keep more power and more money and my family has no real chance of moving up within

00:05:21.640 our society? No, screw you. No, no, it's true. And that is one thing that's causing this. And another 0.99

00:05:28.040 thing that's causing this is a genuine lack of belief that there's hope for the future of the country

00:05:32.900 within China, which always depresses the country's fertility rate. Another thing that's causing this is the

00:05:38.260 lack of diversity was in China. As we've said, the less diversity you have within an area,

00:05:42.080 typically the lower the fertility rate is going to be, especially if you have some conflict within

00:05:46.400 these diverse populations because that spikes fertility rates because it gives people an 0.99

00:05:50.920 understanding of this is who I am, this is who they are, and we are in some form of hopefully

00:05:55.760 friendly competition. Yeah, you have a team to root for, whatever.

00:05:59.580 Yeah, a team to root for, right? You know, that's how you get people to go crazy at the sports

00:06:03.160 games and everything. So, okay. All that being the case, there is another area where China's 0.92

00:06:11.160 really failing and where South Korea's really failing and where Japan's really failing that

00:06:15.460 we really- Well, and we're arguably the United States and Europe are failing too.

00:06:20.220 Beginning to, yes. Not quite as bad. Yeah. No, it's not nearly as bad, but I think we need to go there.

00:06:26.800 It is the conservative attitude with which men are approaching the marriage marketplaces.

00:06:35.980 And when I say conservative attitude, I don't mean conservative like doing things the way they

00:06:40.700 used to be done. It's conservative in not ceding any of the rights that men had historically as they

00:06:51.500 are gaining additional privileges that they wouldn't have had in a historic context.

00:06:56.800 So what do we mean by this? As women have been able to make their own money, have been able to 1.00

00:07:02.920 enter the job market, particularly within countries like China and South Korea, the men are not letting 1.00

00:07:10.300 them out of any housework. They are not contributing to childcare. They are putting on this, what in the

00:07:17.700 US, I think is defined by this ultra Chad aesthetic that to an extent is pushed by individuals like 0.93

00:07:23.940 Andrew Tate and stuff like that. And women, when they go out and they want to date and they see

00:07:28.700 the lifestyle that they're going to have with these people, they're just like, no, fuck it. It's better 1.00

00:07:34.020 to be single. Yeah. Why would you like voluntarily become someone's servant for the rest of your life?

00:07:41.720 While you still have to work.

00:07:43.000 Well, and while you still have to take care of your parents in China too, like, you know,

00:07:46.720 like screw that. Like I 100% I would not, I would not even consider it. Like I haven't

00:07:54.140 picked up anything from Chinese culture or even Korean culture around marriage, though. I would say

00:08:01.860 that the Korean couples that you and I know are like really awesome, share the burden, but they're

00:08:07.740 also very modern and they work together. Um, you know, when that's very rare for Korea.

00:08:13.180 Yeah. Right. They're like the, the only ones we know are like extremely unusual and they're also

00:08:17.620 happy, but they're unusual for like, but the, but the typical guy, right. The typical South Korean, 0.96

00:08:23.060 the typical Japanese guy, the typical Chinese guy is going to, yeah, just totally not like, I, I just, 0.55

00:08:31.020 I've never seen examples of them being like, yeah, I'll help around the house. Yeah. I mean,

00:08:35.140 like in animes, there are examples of these, like this is romanticized, right. Of like the dad really

00:08:40.000 helping out with a ton of stuff, but I haven't seen it in reality. No. And it's worse than that

00:08:45.300 as well. The deal that you are getting as a woman in these countries is even worse than that. So one 0.98

00:08:49.720 thing that's really, really common in these cultures is I don't know what word I'd use for,

00:08:53.940 but whoring. I, when I was working in South Korea was on a number of occasions invited to brothels 0.60

00:08:59.440 with other men. And, and I'd like, I have a wife and they're like, what does that have to do with

00:09:04.320 anything? They're like, come on, this is like a group bonding exercise. And I never ended up

00:09:08.480 going, it was a gross to me. Like, I don't, I don't find, but I've mentioned this before. I

00:09:14.340 have a really high aversion to women with a high body count. Like it's, it's, it wasn't even just

00:09:19.080 a loyalty to my wife. Not even aversion to that. You, you lived in the brothel area because it was 1.00

00:09:23.980 cheaper. You don't like, not as, it just, you wouldn't want to sleep with them. No, no, no. But I

00:09:28.420 mean a sexual aversion. Like I find them very unattractive, no matter how like attractive on their face

00:09:33.560 they are. It's just to me, a gross idea, even outside of any loyalty I have to my wife within

00:09:38.840 the West, you wouldn't do that. At a, at a VC firm, you would not like approach people at another VC

00:09:44.820 firm and say like, Hey, let's go cheat on our wives. Like, even if people cheat in Silicon Valley, 1.00

00:09:50.580 even if there are these sex parties, parties exist for people in explicitly open relationships,

00:09:56.300 which is common in Silicon Valley, or they are seen as sort of like a naughty thing that you

00:10:01.940 shouldn't be doing, not like a formalized part of the culture. And this is, so as a woman, 1.00

00:10:07.560 you're getting so, so, so little when you marry in these cultures, really all you're getting is kids 0.99

00:10:13.540 and maybe getting your parents off your back. In fact, that's another really interesting thing was

00:10:18.460 in these cultures is a huge motivator for marriage and kids is the externality of the parents asking for

00:10:25.660 the grandkids. And that is something that is not as common in the United States. And I actually think

00:10:33.020 it increases our marriage rate. And people might be like, wait, why would not being constantly

00:10:39.280 pressured by your parents to do something increase the rate at which it happens? And the answer is,

00:10:44.940 imagine if your parents, you know, every week we're asking you, are you having enough sex? Are you 0.98

00:10:49.680 having enough sex? Like, have you had sex yet? You'd probably not have sex for a really long time, 0.99

00:10:54.540 just out of obstinance to your parents. You know, the stage at which you need to do this is a stage

00:10:58.900 that humans have this natural biological instinct to rebel. It just sort of distance themselves from

00:11:03.980 their family and build their own life. I mean, so parents pushing that at that age can cause people

00:11:09.140 to build an additional amount of questioning around this, especially when it's also coming from

00:11:14.820 the government as well. But this also comes to our own country, right? So many guys are looking at the

00:11:21.800 ways that the marriage market is breaking. And instead of going out there and saying, okay, well,

00:11:26.620 then I need to find these rare women who are still high quality marriageable material, 1.00

00:11:32.040 I am just going to act in this way that is totally degrading of all women. And as we've pointed out 1.00

00:11:39.540 many times, it is not that this act will not get you sexual partners. It will, but it will get you

00:11:47.400 the type of sexual partner, the type of woman who would sleep with a guy who she met randomly because

00:11:53.080 he turned her on, which is generally not the type of woman you want to marry. The type of woman you 0.98

00:11:59.420 want to marry, and these women are out there because we talk to them, you know, we see them. 1.00

00:12:03.760 They are the women who desperately want to get involved in some sort of world-changing project, 1.00

00:12:07.960 but they want that project to be whatever their husband is interested in. And they're looking for a 0.81

00:12:12.380 guy that inspires them. And they're not finding these men anymore. Men who have this huge ambition

00:12:19.380 or level of integrity to make society a better place. And I think this comes because we have

00:12:26.320 forgotten what the actual American Chad was. If you go, and I've been reading a lot of family history

00:12:32.160 recently, a lot of, you know, books about early family members or stuff like that, right? Like about

00:12:37.220 what the men were like, you know, going into World War II, what men were like on the frontier,

00:12:43.600 what their lives were like, and the way that their wives interacted and thought about them. 0.91

00:12:48.420 And these were men that had earned their wives' admiration. There are men today who think that the

00:12:58.200 reason historically their ancestors, women, admired their husbands were because they had to, 0.93

00:13:06.400 because they were forced to by society. The rules.

00:13:10.780 And it's not that this never happened, but these were the families of the abusive drunkards who,

00:13:18.140 like, everybody looked down on, right? Like- Yeah, these were seen as, like, the low-class

00:13:22.840 dysfunctional families. Or the husbands were victims of, like, literal serial killers who would

00:13:29.760 just find ways to poison them, which happened. Right, what are you talking about? I don't understand.

00:13:33.600 I'm saying that, like- Are you referring to a specific incident, or-

00:13:38.360 Yeah, well, I'm talking about that female serial killer who took out a woman. 1.00

00:13:42.640 I don't remember her name. Want me to look her up? I'm just saying-

00:13:45.880 No, no, no. I'll pull it up and add it in editing. But yeah, no. So, yeah, you would get these,

00:13:51.160 these, like, really low-class men who were, like, abusive and demanded respect for their wives. But

00:13:56.120 this was seen as a low-class thing. Like, nobody respected these individuals.

00:13:59.420 This was some, like, weird, within our generation, this is what people would call, like, trailer trash

00:14:04.660 or something like that. Right.

00:14:06.340 Actual, your average woman who respected her husband, if you're talking, like, pre-World War II period, 0.99

00:14:12.380 American colonial period, American frontierist period, this was because the man had earned it 0.96

00:14:18.260 through the enormous hardships he went through.

00:14:21.140 You, as a person living in this era, cannot, like, they're not going to be foisted upon you.

00:14:29.220 You have to seek them out. You have to seek out the trials of making mankind great. And through

00:14:37.260 seeking out those trials, you will attract women. I think a lot of people, when I talk about, you know,

00:14:42.100 my early sexual history and stuff like that, one of the things, like, just, I had enormous sexual

00:14:47.860 success, you know, high school, college, et cetera. And people are like, how did this, how did this

00:14:52.700 happen? You know, you do not look like I expect, like, the mega Chad guy to look. But I have always

00:14:57.640 had, like, an intense burning passion to try to fix society and make the world a better place

00:15:03.800 and plans around how to do that. And those were the things that attracted women. Now, guys are like, 0.51

00:15:09.560 oh, great. Now, how do I fake that? And the problem is, is that if you fake this in order to get

00:15:15.640 women, it won't work. They won't be interested in you. Like, they can see through this immediately. 1.00

00:15:20.440 You have to actually find something that's meaningful to you and dedicate your life to it.

00:15:25.300 And this also works, you know, if you're dedicating your life to a religious cause or to something like

00:15:29.220 that. But it's so funny, you know, people talk about monk mode and stuff these days, right? And what

00:15:36.140 they mean when they're talking about this is abstention from things like, you know, whether it's

00:15:41.680 pornography or certain types of, like, fun, like, video games, stuff like that, right?

00:15:47.120 And they're just going to work on a project. Whereas often the projects that they dedicate

00:15:51.400 themselves to are self-aggrandizing projects, which defeat the whole purpose of all of this,

00:15:57.980 because that is not what attracts women, is men who are working on self-aggrandizing projects.

00:16:02.120 They are attracted to men who are working on projects for the betterment of society

00:16:06.380 or for the betterment of a cause that that man truly believes in. And that you don't need to go

00:16:13.020 monk mode. What you need to do, where you need to be superhuman, is in your ambition and your

00:16:21.340 confidence and your ability to play a role in that ambitious goal. And this is what defined the early

00:16:27.660 settlers. You know, when you were, you know, reading these old journals of my family of, you know,

00:16:32.200 going out into the West, being in these, these environments where everything was against you,

00:16:36.940 you could die at any moment, everyone around you was dying all the time. And the amount of

00:16:41.280 mental and moral fortitude each individual had to have, but it led to things like the quote I read

00:16:47.100 before, where he was talking about his mom and he goes, my mom always regarded my dad as her personal

00:16:51.840 hero. And that's the thing is men today think that women submitted out of submission, out of this like

00:16:59.080 instinctual sexual desire. Oh yeah. Like it's, it is their nature. Yeah.

00:17:03.860 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a, like a, I don't know, a bird flocking into a certain formation. Like,

00:17:09.620 oh, they formed the V because of the streamline and, and like, oh, well the women form submission 1.00

00:17:14.200 because it's the, their woman brains, you know, like, no. Yeah. Which, which I will say women do do 1.00

00:17:20.520 that disproportionately within a sexual context, but you as a guy have to remember the things that turn

00:17:26.740 you on are not the things that affect like what job you take or that doesn't change it though. So

00:17:33.480 like, okay, you can be turned on by someone being dominant, just like you could be turned on by 0.99

00:17:39.460 someone having giant breasts. But guess what? If a woman doesn't have giant breasts, is she going to 1.00

00:17:44.640 turn you on? That makes no sense to me what you just said. A man can be turned on by large boobs, 0.99

00:17:49.160 but if a woman doesn't have large boobs, it doesn't turn them on. How does that connect to what you're 1.00

00:17:52.620 talking about? It doesn't turn on the man. Well, if, if man isn't really dominant, if a man isn't

00:17:56.960 dominant in the way that actually makes a woman feel like she could be comfortable around him

00:18:00.200 and surrender to him completely. Okay. Okay. So what you're saying is these men aren't actually

00:18:05.680 dominant. Okay. I disagree with you here. Strongly actually disagree with you. So you think women 1.00

00:18:10.320 can be turned on by fake dominance? No, I think that women, the reason why your average woman is 1.00

00:18:17.180 turned on by a certain type of dominance, right? And this is turned on within a sexual context

00:18:21.680 is because the women who weren't when their village was raided and all of the men were killed

00:18:25.500 ended up being killed themselves. But this is a completely sexual thing. Like this is something

00:18:32.860 that you can do like play in the bedroom or something like that, but it is not that tied to

00:18:38.180 the way they look for long-term partners. That is a different category of what we call dominance in

00:18:44.420 society. So, and, and we'll, we'll talk about this in where I argue that within males and females,

00:18:49.060 there are sort of two different sexualities that I think apply to both genders. Like the things

00:18:54.080 that turn a guy on in porn are not the things that they would necessarily be most turned on by doing

00:18:58.880 with their wife. And that is because historically, you know, humans had two sets of evolutionary pressures

00:19:06.120 on the way that they related to their partners. Um, one set of evolutionary pressures was, uh, if I'm

00:19:13.400 raiding a village, am I making sure to impregnate as many people as possible because I'm raiding the

00:19:17.440 village, right? Um, and women, if I'm in a village that's being raided, am I making sure I'm not

00:19:22.240 putting up too much of a fight? And so I actually live. Um, but that sexual optimization is completely

00:19:29.240 different from a, this is my approved wife was in my community. These are my legitimate children

00:19:35.180 within my community. And I need to make sure that they are seen as respected and empowered so that I

00:19:40.800 can, you know, intergenerationally move up within status within my community. Uh, these are two

00:19:46.160 completely different sets of selective pressures. And we'll do a full video on this, this elsewhere

00:19:52.140 and the evidence for it. But the point being is that men recognize accurately that this sort of like

00:19:58.740 raider dominance is something that they can use to get women. They meet at bars to sleep with them. 0.98

00:20:05.880 But the women who are interested in this form of dominance and who will submit sexually and be 1.00

00:20:11.860 like, I'm interested in you as a stranger to like, just have sex because of this form of dominance 0.97

00:20:15.600 are very, very, very bad marriage candidates. And these are exactly the women who will screw you 1.00

00:20:22.160 over and who will divorce, grape you. And the reason that is, is because you are selecting for 0.88

00:20:28.400 the type of woman who was the type of woman who would have betrayed her village when it was raided.

00:20:34.000 So of course she betrays you. Of course she goes out and cheats with you when she meets some, 0.99

00:20:38.800 you know, dominant acting pool boy or plumber or something like that. Who's coming over and visiting

00:20:44.460 your house? Like, of course, that is how you selected her. But then there's the other type

00:20:50.260 of woman who's using a completely different sexual strategy where she is looking for a hero,

00:20:55.260 which is yes, dominant to her in one way, but it is not necessarily a dominance that is like

00:21:00.920 immediately turning her on. Like some women are immediately turned on by this, but no, 1.00

00:21:04.800 this is a woman who's looking for someone to sort of set up shop. As I say, you're not a woman, 1.00

00:21:09.980 you don't get to like set up shop in somebody else's life if your life is failing.

00:21:13.700 I mean, it's not like he's a hot girl. He can't just bail on his life and set up shop in someone

00:21:17.960 else's. But a lot of women actually hone themselves as like a tool to be a great tool 1.00

00:21:24.480 within somebody else's life. As I say, like within our relationship, one of the ways that we often

00:21:31.000 talked about our relationship early on was sort of sword and wielder relationship, right? Where

00:21:37.000 Simone had worked to hone herself in to the perfect instrument of my will on the world. And it was

00:21:45.160 through wielding her that my full will, the thing I wanted to accomplish within society was possible.

00:21:50.900 But a blade is not going to be interested in a feckless master who only uses it for his own

00:21:56.980 self-aggrandizement. If a human being was that thing, if a human being was this sentient blade,

00:22:04.780 they are, they know what their purpose is, which is to help somebody else make some big impact on

00:22:10.580 society. But when a guy's like, oh, blades, I just use those things, right? The blade's like, no,

00:22:18.140 I don't want somebody. I don't want some barbarian. I don't want somebody who just uses me to satisfy 1.00

00:22:23.900 their own whims. I want somebody who has a righteous mission. And that's, that is what creates the bond

00:22:32.060 and allows the blade to not turn on its wielder. Whereas, or, or if the wielder chooses a barbarian

00:22:38.880 blade, like you don't want a barbarian on a blade, a barbarian blade gains its power through, through,

00:22:44.480 through being sharpened at its hilt. It cuts both ways. And so in society, you can go ahead and look,

00:22:49.860 look for a wife like this. And a lot of men are out there. The women who are looking, sorry, the women 1.00

00:22:57.160 who are looking for these righteous men, they are not finding them. And I am seeing this. And I'm

00:23:00.860 even seeing this with men that I talked to, you know, a lot of these men, they say, well, I'm going

00:23:06.420 to wait till I'm like extra wealthy. Then I'm going to go out and find a good wife. But that's not

00:23:10.660 looking for a wife who's helping you make your wealth. That's not looking for a wife who's on this 1.00

00:23:14.280 journey together with you. That is saying that once I have this ultra high level of status, I'm going to

00:23:19.720 use it to get a supplicant. And those supplicant wives are really low quality wives. 1.00

00:23:25.200 The ideal relationship.

00:23:27.680 Yeah. And I just keep seeing this from a lot of guys who I think are otherwise like sane and know

00:23:33.780 that they should be going out there. And then of course, there's like the black pill guys that are 1.00

00:23:37.120 just like, there's no women out there that are like this. There's no women out there that won't 1.00

00:23:40.660 betray you. And that's just like objectively not true. There are lots of women who have been in 0.86

00:23:46.180 long-term stable relationships with somebody. It may be increasingly true if you're older. Like if

00:23:52.060 you wait to find a wife until like your late twenties. Yeah. Okay. That might be true. 1.00

00:23:56.620 But I guess in society today, somebody's like, but doesn't everybody wait to find a wife until

00:24:01.020 their late twenties? Not the smart good men. Those men are laughing at the women long before that

00:24:06.860 because they understand the game.

00:24:08.460 Yeah. I guess one, one strategy that could work for men who are older is to get like right on the

00:24:19.700 rebound divorces, like women whose first marriage didn't work out for whatever reason. Cause they. 0.99

00:24:26.600 Maybe I'd be aiming for widows, widows only for me. 1.00

00:24:30.100 Widows only. Yeah. I don't know, but I do. I think it's, it's a, it's a two way street. So,

00:24:35.040 I mean, while I am saying like guys out there are not delivering something that's worth the hassle

00:24:41.020 for women, like why would they bother? Especially like in the U S too, with, with sperm donation, 1.00

00:24:45.940 like it's just so easy. Like even if a woman wants to have her own kids, it's super easy to have your 0.78

00:24:50.760 own kids as a woman in the U S and be a single mother. I mean, no, it's, it's, it's hard to be a

00:24:54.960 single mother. Right. But like you can do it. And frankly, with a lot of the men out there,

00:24:59.080 it would, it seems a lot easier to do that and not deal with the baggage of the guy. Right.

00:25:05.140 But also, I mean, keep in mind. And so I'd say this is guys, women are human beings too. Like 1.00

00:25:09.940 they want their lives to matter. Very few humans there, at least with any sort of genetic stock

00:25:15.980 that I would be interested in marrying are going to be genuinely satisfied being a servant to another

00:25:21.740 human, just to be a servant to another human human beings who, who gain satisfaction from serving

00:25:29.220 another person, gain it because they believe in that person's mission. Like ultimately they're

00:25:33.920 serving that person's mission, not that person themselves. Whereas a lot of this sort of, I'd say

00:25:40.700 over red filled mindset thinks that you can get a good wife, like an actual, like really high quality 1.00

00:25:47.320 woman to sacrifice her entire life, just in service of you and your vanities. And a lot of 1.00

00:25:54.180 these missions are just vanities. Like if it's just a company for a company's sake, that's a personal

00:25:58.260 vanity. If it's your, you know, honing your body for its own sake, that's a personal vanity. And,

00:26:04.160 and you are not going to get the highest quality of women. If you are still focused on individual 1.00

00:26:10.880 vanity and monk mode itself can be a form of vanity. If it's not being sharpened and

00:26:17.300 focused into some mission. Totally. I always sort of took monk mode to be like

00:26:22.380 the male equivalent of like, I'm in my spa detox month or whatever. Like we're like,

00:26:28.080 I'm just taking, this is self-care. I have no time for friends right now. I'm just going to be

00:26:33.540 watching movies and eating clean and doing Pilates. And like, it's just, yeah. What does that mean for

00:26:39.940 the world? And it, I actually do recall now, like, yeah, you, you didn't try to sell me on yourself

00:26:45.100 on our first date. You sold me on your vision for the world. And what we initially came in aligned

00:26:51.960 on was a vision not on like, you know, Oh, I think, I mean, I obviously did. I sat you down.

00:26:59.180 I said, I'm looking for a wife. Here's what I want to do. Like, here's, here's the problems I think

00:27:03.060 the world is facing and how I think we can resolve. Yeah. And so I think when nations are looking at

00:27:08.060 demographic collapse, it's, we, we always hammer home this, like it's culture. You have to fix 0.97

00:27:14.040 culture. But a big part of that culture is creating young men and women who are worth marrying,

00:27:19.900 who are really worth marrying. And belief in their agency on society. So the problem you have in an

00:27:25.440 environment like China or South Korea is a lot of young men are raised to believe that no matter what

00:27:30.740 they do, they can only be a tool of the system. When you completely castrate and defang young men, 0.84

00:27:37.720 you create men that women don't want to marry. Yeah. Yeah. But beyond that, I think, you know, 0.99

00:27:44.840 in China, frankly, I think a lot of women would get married even to men who don't have visions, 0.98

00:27:49.040 even if it's just, if they weren't, if they weren't assholes and if they actually like hold 0.98

00:27:53.300 their weight and if they brought something to the table. And I, again, I'm thinking back to like those 0.96

00:27:57.020 1950s, like 1940s to 1960s guides to life that I'm so obsessed with those little coronet films,

00:28:03.620 instructional videos that they used to show to high school kids in the dating and relationship

00:28:07.800 videos. A very common theme is like, remember, no one's going to care about you unless you bring

00:28:13.940 your thing to the table. You know, and for women, it's like, here's how to be a good housekeeper. 1.00

00:28:18.120 Here's how to manage the family finances. Here's how to fix clothes. Here's how to make sure the

00:28:21.420 family has the right nutrition. You know, here's how to, and then like for men, it's, it's like,

00:28:25.200 here's, you know, here's how to be polite. Here's how to budget. Well, here's how to,

00:28:29.900 you know, be kind to your wife. Here's how to support your family. And like each person

00:28:34.320 was raised culturally to understand that like you have this burden of responsibility

00:28:40.940 to bring something to your relationship. And right now the perspective is totally flipped. It's,

00:28:46.800 well, what about me? What is, what's in it for me? Yeah. What am I getting out of this?

00:28:50.980 And like, no one is thinking, what can I get? What can I get? So often from, from these men,

00:28:56.180 these like total black-pilled men who are like all negative on relationships. And like,

00:28:59.620 it's only about divorce grape. It's only about et cetera. And they're like, what do I, as a man

00:29:04.700 get out of marrying a woman? And it's like the moment, like, like, and, and when, as soon as

00:29:09.500 somebody says that, I'm like, I understand why you were graped now. I get why you got divorced

00:29:13.780 grape. Because you're the type of person who would see the world like that. Because you are the type

00:29:18.720 of person who asks how the other person is benefiting you personally, rather than looking

00:29:24.760 for somebody on a combined mission. And then this is what I'm saying was like, well, how do you know

00:29:28.820 she won't like betray you because of her like instincts or her womanliness will lead her to 0.99

00:29:34.420 betray you or her self-motivation. It's like, bro, like we're on the same mission. We're on the same

00:29:40.200 quest. There is no reason to betray me. So long as I am competently moving towards that quest,

00:29:46.080 there is no temptation for betrayal. So long as we are on this mission together,

00:29:51.400 her entire life is in service to this mission. Like why would she betray somebody else who is

00:29:57.420 competently fighting for the same goal? It's when you structure yourself as somebody who's asking,

00:30:04.240 what do I get out of this? Okay. What, what do I get out of this arrangement? That means the people

00:30:08.580 who you're in an arrangement with are thinking the same thing. What do I get out of this? Because

00:30:11.700 that is a way that you have framed the construction of a relationship, which historically was not what

00:30:17.000 relationships were about. You did not get into a relationship thinking, what do I get out of this?

00:30:21.520 And so many men today think that they're like, what do I get? And then, and then they use it for

00:30:26.380 this weird, like masculine self-validation where they raise themselves up within their own instincts

00:30:33.440 of what it means to be masculine through the denigration of the women in their lives and their wives.

00:30:38.420 Whereas anything I think that you do to your wife, you should be comfortable having done to your

00:30:46.460 daughter. And if you would not enthusiastically encourage another man to treat your daughter

00:30:52.280 that way, then you should not be treating your wife that way because that is the way that your 1.00

00:30:57.120 daughters will expect to be treated in their relationships. And I think a lot of people are

00:31:01.600 like, aren't you worried about when your daughters start dating? Not at all. Not at, I mean, if they're out

00:31:05.140 there dating and looking for somebody to change the world with, that's great. You know, do whatever

00:31:09.980 you want with my daughter. If you're working effectively together to enact some goal and

00:31:15.240 vision you have for the world. But the reason why these guys are afraid of people dating their

00:31:22.040 daughters is they're afraid that people will see their daughters the way that they saw their wives

00:31:25.900 as sexual conquests. That's primary utility is how they augment their own status. And that branch of

00:31:35.820 humanity, if it doesn't die off, will enter the barbarian classes. When I talk about the barbarian 1.00

00:31:41.660 classes, as people know, we talk about the enemies of pernatalism. You have the urban monoculture,

00:31:46.320 which is one of the enemies, but then you have the future problem, which is that most of the high

00:31:49.820 fertility cultural groups these days are technophobic, low economically productive. Like 1.00

00:31:54.880 that's how they get their fertility rates high by artificially lowering their income and very, 0.99

00:31:59.060 very xenophobic. And these are the future enemy of most of the pernatalist cultures, because these 1.00

00:32:05.840 are not going to be economically or technologically meaningful groups within the human future. And they 0.85

00:32:10.740 just hinder us or a threat to us, the humans that will one day populate the galaxy.

00:32:19.240 And so when I talk about somebody descending to the barbarians, you know, they're the people who 0.63

00:32:25.280 will be left on earth as the humans that were technologically engaged and economically productive

00:32:31.340 in populating the stars. And there you have it. Anyway, that's why you shouldn't be a Chad. You should

00:32:39.680 be the 1920s, 1910s version of a Chad. Anyway, love you to death, Simone. I love you too, Malcolm.

00:32:49.240 Or the Braveheart Chad. That's a good one. Yeah, Braveheart Chad. That works.

Based Camp - January 17, 2024

Chinese Fertility Falling Faster Than Expected： Are “Chads” to Blame？

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