Based Camp - Christianity Was Never a Religion of ＂Peace＂ — Forgetting That Is Killing Us

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be talking to you today today we are going to be digging into

00:00:05.400 morality as the bible and christian faith relate to it because i am getting really sick of all of

00:00:14.320 these christians out there that we see within like the wider christian media influencer ecosystem

00:00:19.100 talking about how christianity is like the religion of peace and we need to always be

00:00:24.740 peaceful and if you're going to for example make a blanket rule against dropping bombs on schools

00:00:33.480 in a warfare scenario then all of a sudden terrorists are going to put their headquarters

00:00:40.100 under schools and make society net negative for children oh you're not this is purely hypothetical

00:00:46.060 of course yeah if if at a uh societal level right we did something like just always gave out food

00:00:55.400 whenever somebody was hungry you would have groups begin to evolve or move in close to you

00:01:01.200 that evolve entirely predatory off of this right when somebody can be like well maybe the bible

00:01:08.060 didn't predict all of these things or didn't really think through difficult moral decisions

00:01:15.640 and the reality is that's not true at all the bible all over the place has god telling people

00:01:23.700 to kill infants and so we are going to go because i think that this is one of the clearest i mean i

00:01:29.340 could go into the instances where god's like laying out the rules for selling your daughters

00:01:33.860 into slavery or rules on how to treat slaves but in this episode that we're going to go more on

00:01:39.700 than the next one because it's going to be a bit of a two-parter but on this one we're going to go

00:01:43.320 deeper into specifically where why and when does god say it's okay to kill infants because i think

00:01:51.840 it's through these scenarios we can get a broader understanding of how christianity should understand 0.55

00:02:00.500 morality you know maybe i was wrong about this pacifism thing are you insane pacifism works

00:02:07.100 like a charm as long as you button it isn't it broadly understood though that one of the reasons

00:02:13.560 christianity got so much early adoption in the roman empire was because the christians didn't

00:02:19.300 kill the babies and people kind of liked that like especially women so what i'll also point out is i

00:02:24.640 do not i think that there was a period of history where christianity was meant to be understood as 0.96

00:02:30.380 this ultra peacenik religion because that helped it grow we've done an episode where we look at the

00:02:35.640 morality of early Christians and show that them being willing to help each other during times of

00:02:39.380 plague, them not killing their infants, that this helped their population grow at a significantly

00:02:45.780 larger rate than pagan populations and lowered the persecution that they might have otherwise

00:02:51.300 gotten during their period of growth. But once they were the dominant religion within regions,

00:02:57.980 at first they kept their warlike nature. You know, they would still go and do crusades. They would 0.72

00:03:03.080 still punish the infidel you know still seek out witches in their community stuff like this 0.87

00:03:08.380 but parts of the bible begin to be emphasized more than other parts over time until the religion 0.83

00:03:15.620 became unrecognizable and a net negative in the way it was being practiced so to go back to this

00:03:25.240 we've got and this one is the clearest so i'm going to go the longest on it samuel 15 2 through

00:03:31.280 three. It says, thus says the Lord of hosts, I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing 0.98

00:03:37.600 them on the way when they came out of Egypt. Now note, this would have happened hundreds of years 0.97

00:03:42.440 before God is talking about this. So this is something that a people did hundreds of years

00:03:46.980 ago. None of the people who actually did this negative thing to Israel would have still been

00:03:49.800 among the Amaleks. Okay. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. 1.00

00:03:56.080 do not spare them but kill them both man and woman child and infant ox and sheep camel and donkey 1.00

00:04:03.440 and there's some different translations for infant here we have suckling basically mean a child while 0.99

00:04:09.300 it's still surviving on breast milk so you can't be like well maybe they're talking about older

00:04:13.380 children here or something this is the the word that's used here means that and you could say

00:04:18.240 okay maybe something was lost in translation here and god didn't really mean no you gotta kill

00:04:25.960 everyone when you take this territory a note here are people who want to say the bible says thou

00:04:33.280 shall not kill it doesn't say that it doesn't say that anywhere it says that you're not supposed to

00:04:37.120 murder murder in jewish law is very different from a generic killing i didn't mention this in

00:04:42.660 the episode because i assumed it was obvious for people with like baseline biblical knowledge but

00:04:47.580 probably worth mentioning okay so what then happens in samuel 15 7 through 9 all right

00:04:53.640 and samuel defeated the amaleks and from havil as far as sure which is to the east of egypt

00:05:01.380 and he took agog and the king of the amaleks alive and devoted destruction all the people

00:05:07.340 with the edge of the sword but saul and the people spared agog and the best sheep and the

00:05:12.880 best oxen and fattened calves and lambs and all that was good and would not utterly destroy them

00:05:18.720 all that was despised and worthless they devoted to destruction okay so what did god do about this

00:05:26.220 right the word of the lord came to samuel this is samuel 15 10 through 23 i regret that i have

00:05:35.340 made saul king for he has turned his back from following me and has not performed my commandments

00:05:41.760 and samuel was angry and he cried to the lord all night dot dot dot and the lord sent you on a 0.99

00:05:48.520 mission he said go and devote to destruction all the sinners the amaleks and fight against them 0.75

00:05:53.000 until they are consumed why then did you not obey the voice of your lord why did you pronounce on 1.00

00:05:59.140 the spoil and do what was evil even in the sight of the lord and then dot dot dot here and then

00:06:05.100 response because you have rejected the word of the lord he has also rejected you being king

00:06:10.020 so if it was unclear what happened there so i'll just lay it out for you did you catch what he did

00:06:15.960 wrong he didn't kill them all he didn't kill one person the king and some of the sheep and oxen

00:06:24.720 yeah he was supposed to kill them all now he killed all of the infants no but that's not

00:06:31.300 all of them but that's not all of them all of them all of them and what is up dude here this 0.90

00:06:41.200 this is the whole demon i killed i killed goblins yeah okay very very similar to that

00:06:47.120 which was that just were they just were they just trying to reenact the bible there

00:06:50.520 with the whole like goblin baby killing scene where they're trying to be like i secret door

00:06:57.060 Children

00:07:05.220 They multiply quickly

00:07:08.180 If this nest had been left much longer

00:07:11.040 There might have been a horde of 50 waiting for us down here

00:07:14.060 We were lucky 1.00

00:07:15.360 Are you going to kill them? 1.00

00:07:21.620 Of course I am 1.00

00:07:22.720 These animals hold on to grudges for life

00:07:26.100 the survivors in the nest would learn from the mistakes of the dead and adapt there isn't a

00:07:33.020 single reason to show them mercy but what if there was a good goblin they might exist maybe

00:07:39.940 if you looked hard you might be able to find one but in the end the only good goblins are the ones

00:07:47.500 who never show their faces to the light of day it will say that this is the morality the bible

00:07:52.800 teaches us the morality of that scene in goblin slayer is essentially the morality the bible

00:07:58.360 teaches us and we're going to point out because people can be like oh well when jesus came all of

00:08:03.180 these older stories are revoked right like they don't matter anymore this is not the god we're

00:08:07.840 dealing with anymore i'm going to point out no jesus makes it very clear all of this stuff holds

00:08:13.860 well we're going to point out that god's mercy when we understand mercy through the eyes of what

00:08:18.160 god means by mercy right because we're constantly told god is merciful and then you're kicked out

00:08:23.360 for being king because you didn't kill them all right you know like clearly if we're defining

00:08:28.140 mercy through whatever trait god has it's not this standard human definition of mercy right so when

00:08:33.160 we're commanded to be merciful that does not undermine the and handle it when you're conquering

00:08:39.740 a territory right so we're gonna go into that and i'll note here people will be like well like god

00:08:44.980 matured or something between the old and the new testament and i'm gonna say no no no no the reason

00:08:50.280 the rules that we are given and what's asked of god is changed in between these two contexts

00:08:55.720 is that humanity changed civilization changed that god gave us to help civilization

00:09:04.120 advance are different in the different contexts but it's not that the older rules are no longer

00:09:11.720 relevant or something we should be listening to or taking into understanding in warfare in

00:09:17.800 civilizational conflicts so i want to continue here to point out for people who are like well 0.98

00:09:22.460 maybe this this amalek people were just like uniquely evil and the situation with samuel

00:09:27.600 was like very unique in in the old testament right and i'll point out that is not the case

00:09:33.140 so we've got a deuteronomy 2016 18 this was a general rule landed out for canine cities okay

00:09:40.600 but in the cities of the people that the Lord God has given you for an inheritance you shall save 0.94

00:09:47.060 nothing that breathes but you shall devote to complete destruction the Hittites the Amorites 0.98

00:09:54.240 the Canaanites and the Pezzarites the Hivarites and the Jebusites as your Lord God commanded 1.00

00:10:01.120 that they may not teach you to do according to all abominable practices that they have done for 0.98

00:10:08.440 their gods and you sin against the Lord God. So actually here we're getting some more context.

00:10:15.340 Why does God have his people kill everyone in a region when, when, when they're conquering the

00:10:20.160 region? And no, he doesn't always do this. There are two types of like conquests that are described.

00:10:25.920 Sometimes it's kill everyone, all the women, all the children, everyone. And then other times it's

00:10:32.080 leave the virginal women, marry them. So again, this isn't like a blanket rule here that he's

00:10:39.380 giving, but it is the normal rule. The virginal women rule is less commonly brought up. And I

00:10:44.840 will also note here that we know from DNA studies that the current Jewish population is about 50%

00:10:52.620 descended from the Canaanites. And we also know from Jewish Old Testament stuff, there's a bunch

00:10:56.980 of parts, especially during the Josiah reforms, where like they're complaining about intermarriage

00:11:00.940 with canaanite people and stuff like that so the jews acted with more what we would consider quote 0.67

00:11:06.600 unquote mercy than they were commanded to and in so doing sin right in so doing in not acting 0.68

00:11:13.800 with maximal efficiency they acted in a way that we can see from the story of samuel was clearly a

00:11:20.500 sin and a sin worthy of punishment too interesting huh so to continue here now we've got numbers

00:11:27.180 31 1 through 18 and this is the medianites so again we're a different group here right 0.97

00:11:32.540 moses commands when when talking about taking vengeance on the medianites now therefore kill 0.98

00:11:38.500 every male among the little ones and kill every woman who has known a man by lying with him but 0.98

00:11:43.780 the young girls who have not known a man by lying with him keep alive for yourself so you can see 0.84

00:11:47.180 in this one instance it's a bit different but still killing the infants still killing the infants

00:11:51.600 even in the merciful option it's still killing of the infants and again why the killing of the

00:11:56.820 in the other passage, the reason God gives is, well, when they grow up, they will lead you away

00:12:02.120 from whatever God sees as the truth, right? And so the question here is, why is God saying this,

00:12:09.220 right? Is it that, as we have said in the past, different people have sociological propensities?

00:12:16.000 If you look at DNA studies, we now know this now from twin studies and everything like that,

00:12:20.200 huge portions of our personality are inherited. Could this have been something that God was

00:12:25.860 concerned about when talking about a people that had lived alongside a different tradition right

00:12:31.100 potentially you also have other examples like you have during the conquest of jericho joshua 6 21

00:12:37.280 then they devoted all of the city to destruction both the men and the women the young and old

00:12:41.940 oxen sheep and donkeys with the edge of the sword we also have psalms 13 9 this is more of a

00:12:48.660 a lament and not necessarily a direct commandment from god but it's still in the context here so

00:12:54.600 here we understand how they would have killed infants during this period because they describe

00:12:58.680 the process in this so they say remember oh lord against the edomites the day of jerusalem how they

00:13:05.460 say lay it bare lay it bare down to its foundations oh daughter of babylon doomed to be destroyed

00:13:10.920 blessed shall be he who repays you with what you have done to us blessed shall be he who takes 1.00

00:13:17.040 your little ones and bashes them against the rock so pretty brutalistic yeah and people

00:13:25.740 will come to me and they will say when they're looking at this they will say some of these

00:13:31.400 tribes committed a child sacrifice and note here not all of them committed child sacrifice or at

00:13:37.620 least the bible doesn't go out of its way to say all of them did but we do know that some of them

00:13:40.400 committed child sacrifice and so didn't they deserve this isn't this the right way to treat 0.98

00:13:46.320 of peoples who do child sacrifice to which i would note that's a really stupid way to handle 0.99

00:13:52.120 this morally that's a bit like you see somebody about to sacrifice his dog so you shoot the guy 0.95

00:13:57.500 you walk over and then you sacrifice his dog and the police come and they go why did you sacrifice

00:14:03.080 his dog and he was about to do it what you didn't then have to do it immediately after you saved him

00:14:09.980 it's like i mean imagine you you break into epstein island and you're like they're doing

00:14:14.980 despicable thing to children here so we we did sacrifice all of the children too of course i

00:14:21.100 mean that that only goes with freeing a child from captivity right is sacrificing them it that 1.00

00:14:27.820 doesn't explain the morality on display here that's a very very stupid understanding of the 0.98

00:14:34.640 morality that's that's i mean i have a line and hurting innocent children kind of the younger 0.97

00:14:40.340 the worse that's that's crossing it so well and and note here um this isn't just god telling other

00:14:49.160 people to do this we see god hurting infant and again infants like clearly haven't sit like if

00:14:55.080 you're a suckling baby you have clearly not sit and yet we know that even god one i mean directly

00:15:00.460 kills every infant that dies of disease right but then two kills infants directly in one really 0.99

00:15:06.680 well-known story when he kills the firstborn of all of the egyptians right like a lot of those

00:15:13.200 didn't job also lose his family if memory serves also lost his family yes which could have included

00:15:19.020 infants i don't know if it did include infants i can't remember if it was how how old they were

00:15:22.880 i don't know if they got into those specifics yeah so when people come at me especially this

00:15:27.720 is around stuff like even if you believe life begins at conception or something like that

00:15:32.360 And you're like, how could you possibly kill infants? Right. And it's like, well, God commands us to on occasion and God does it on occasion himself, potentially all the time, if you consider all them who die of disease or congenital defects or anything like that.

00:15:47.760 and so the question is is why because i think through digging into this question we can better

00:15:55.060 understand morality as we are meant to understand it from the perspective of god and see part of

00:16:02.120 why christianity is falling apart right now and see part of why our current civilizational

00:16:07.260 structure is falling apart i've been called out i'm gonna have to show up and fight but you don't

00:16:13.540 have to fight what do you mean it's called pacifism jerry and i fight my battles by not

00:16:19.840 fighting well isn't that kind of you know cowardly sure some have called me a coward talk to your 0.91

00:16:25.140 bully show your weakness until she becomes weak herself so if edie and i have an understanding 0.96

00:16:31.300 she'll become weak yes peace it's your greatest weapon well you have my attention because baby

00:16:39.940 killing surprise crosses a line with me i don't care who you are well the baby is before i'll go

00:16:48.940 further basically i'll point out why it lowers net baby killing god works in nets right so this

00:16:57.560 is a stitch in time saves nine a baby killed now saves 100 yes saves or reduces the suffering of

00:17:08.020 thousands to hundreds of thousands of more in the future yeah i hear i hear that oh god i mean 0.92

00:17:14.100 okay let's think about it this way right we think about the populations that the jews when they

00:17:21.720 entered israel were commanded to kill right okay and the iterations of those populations that 0.57

00:17:27.720 survived in the surrounding regions where now it's normal to marry you know six-year-olds and 0.87

00:17:34.580 nine-year-olds depending on the country right like and consummate marriages at these sorts of

00:17:39.240 ages and do all sorts of other stuff that we would see as child torture right like was god actually

00:17:47.280 wrong in laying this out if we have seen the societies that have grown out of

00:17:54.020 the people who were spared within these communities 0.56

00:17:57.400 dark ea this is very dark ea go ahead blast away i just want you to know that i love you

00:18:07.840 you love me

00:18:08.900 Ah!

00:18:24.740 Boy, you sure took a beating.

00:18:27.260 Yeah.

00:18:28.260 You know, maybe I was wrong about this pacifism thing. 1.00

00:18:31.420 Are you insane? 0.85

00:18:32.860 Pacifism works like a charm, as long as you button it. 0.94

00:18:37.460 Almost more than that, we can see the continued, because God does say that he punished the Jews for not fully finishing what they were supposed to finish. 0.90

00:18:46.200 We do see the Jews still being punished for this by God to this day. 0.70

00:18:49.760 I mean, they are constantly being attacked by neighbors in the region, which, I mean, I think it's basically God saying, I told you so.

00:18:58.680 But anyway, to continue here, keep in mind that we have lines in the Bible that say things like Matthew 5-7,

00:19:05.060 blessed are the merciful for they will be shown mercy all right and here you're like wait what

00:19:11.040 like now we're talking about mercy but where was the mercy back then right is punishing a man for

00:19:17.960 not killing literally everyone in a region he conquered not only mercy but like merciful to

00:19:23.900 the second degree right and this is where i think we can better understand all of these calls to

00:19:28.580 mercy. Luke 6, 36, be merciful just as the father is merciful. So the type of whatever is meant by

00:19:35.700 the word mercy here, what's expected of us is what we see as mercy from God. So this has to come to

00:19:43.420 better understand like what this mercy looks like. And to the people who say, oh, and all of this

00:19:48.500 stuff just became irrelevant after Jesus, right? Because we're going to be, we're going to be

00:19:52.460 talking about the like, love your neighbor line and everything like that. But what happens right

00:19:57.220 before the love your neighbor line.

00:19:59.740 So at the very passage that's setting up

00:20:02.140 that whole section that Jesus is about to say,

00:20:05.120 he prefaces it with saying,

00:20:08.500 do not think that I have come to abolish the law

00:20:10.620 or the prophets.

00:20:12.000 I have not come to abolish them,

00:20:13.860 but to fulfill them.

00:20:15.260 For truly, I tell you,

00:20:16.340 until heaven and earth pass away,

00:20:18.180 not an iota, not a dot will pass through the law

00:20:20.480 until all is accomplished.

00:20:22.080 This is Matthew 5, 17, 18.

00:20:23.720 so jesus right before this love your neighbor as yourself stuff lays out we're still working on

00:20:32.920 the older moral framework we're just improving it for a new societal context right and so then

00:20:39.000 what does he lay out because we're going to need to get this stuff to be coherent with the earlier

00:20:45.200 stuff okay by the way interesting right simone to go this is fascinating yeah i mean the picture

00:20:51.820 that you're beginning to paint is God was a long-termist and long-termism is like it often

00:20:59.360 involves a version of the trolley problem that just involves like one person being killed sooner

00:21:08.560 or a bunch of being people being killed in like a hundred years after you're dead

00:21:13.760 and like what you're gonna do and I think unfortunately the instinct of most people

00:21:20.020 is well i'll be dead then so i'm gonna not kill the one person right now and i probably fall into

00:21:26.060 that category yeah well and it also shows that god is when we talk about the morality yeah be it

00:21:32.080 stuff like ivf or be it stuff like any of this when we're talking about like how does god operate

00:21:37.500 in this world of morality well yeah and god exists outside of time so sorry simone drops this like

00:21:43.520 this should be common knowledge to people when you look at lines like before i formed you in the womb

00:21:48.400 i knew you we see that either souls exist before insolvent in heaven which most christians don't

00:21:57.280 believe that would be a mormon belief if you believe that or that god has knowledge of the

00:22:04.000 future and exists outside of time if you think that this implies necessary predestination it

00:22:12.380 doesn't i actually even asked ai because i was wondering how catholics got around this very

00:22:16.880 clear line where god appears to be aware of the future and even the mainstream catholic teaching

00:22:23.200 is that god exists outside of time and is aware of the future so this idea that you know well i'm

00:22:30.880 only going to choose to even though i i could i have the money to do ivf or the resources or have

00:22:36.080 access to it i could have kids if i did ivf i want to have children but i'm going to choose to not do

00:22:41.600 it in god's eyes some of the embryos created won't be carried to term yeah in god's eyes you are

00:22:47.340 choosing to not have your descendants and all their descendants and all their descendants and

00:22:52.040 so on and so forth which is ultimately killing a lot of people yeah which is immeasurable suffering

00:22:57.040 that you are bringing on the world because you are operating in a moral constraint that is clearly a

00:23:03.740 different moral constraint than that god operates on or that he expects you to of course that's

00:23:08.600 assuming that you're among the people that he wouldn't have preferred to see killed his infants

00:23:12.580 so i don't know yeah yeah i don't think so either i'm kidding but i mean you see what i mean i i'm

00:23:19.120 very frustrated by ivf prohibitions i'm i am very frustrated by ivf prohibitions as well because you

00:23:25.520 are preventing children who otherwise would come for and all the children they're going to have

00:23:28.220 and all the children they're going to have from coming into existence into loving families that

00:23:31.920 want them and will raise them well that's that's kind of the worst part you know yeah that these

00:23:36.860 people who would want the most and have the means and everything to give them amazing lives and

00:23:42.040 raise them to be beautiful, positive forces in the world are choosing not to for what we see to be

00:23:46.660 arbitrary rules, not set down by God, but set down by an arbitrary person who had a corrupted view

00:23:54.340 of reality. Yes. And an anti-biblical view of reality that overemphasized, you know, the reason

00:24:02.220 we're taking these two parts of the Bible, and I'm going to be pushing them, how does these work

00:24:06.480 together is because if you just ignore the parts of the Bible that are inconvenient for your

00:24:12.020 iteration of Christianity, it will lead to total social collapse, which is what we're seeing in

00:24:17.100 the West right now. And that's going to be the point of this, how a corrupted view of morality 0.91

00:24:22.140 by ignoring the challenging bits that are much harder. It is much harder to dish out the type

00:24:30.320 of mercy that comes at the end of a blade than it is to dish out the type of mercy that makes

00:24:35.620 you feel good about yourself that the second is the easier mercy the second is the more indulgent

00:24:41.240 mercy right and because that mercy the sugar of mercy the all candy diet of mercy became popular

00:24:48.920 within specific christian institutions particularly the the vaticanized catholic church which is i

00:24:54.200 think where a lot of this spread from that it became normalized and a lot of people thought oh

00:24:59.320 this is what christianity about this is what our religion is all about and then it's oh bring in

00:25:03.480 every immigrant bring in every outsider we don't care you don't need to convert you don't need to 0.99

00:25:08.780 you don't need to every outsider comes into our country regardless if they're a net drain for our 1.00

00:25:13.600 population regardless if the the systems that they are exploiting are designed to care for the most 0.99

00:25:20.980 vulnerable people in our society to the way that god actually told us to be handling this and it's

00:25:26.460 leading to less poor people getting the services they need less like it's just absolutely morally

00:25:31.820 terrible the things that are happening because people, Christians largely, only read the parts

00:25:38.480 of the Bible that they wanted and only came to terms with the parts of the Bible that they wanted. 0.56

00:25:42.840 But to continue. So Jesus then says, after all that, after none of the old stuff doesn't count

00:25:48.280 anymore, he says, you have heard it said, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. But I tell you,

00:25:53.960 not resist an evil person. If a person slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek

00:25:59.760 also and if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt hand over a coat as well if anyone forces

00:26:05.940 you to go a mile go as in two miles give to the one who asks you and do not turn away from the

00:26:11.920 one who wants to borrow from you so you hear all of this which goes directly against a lot of what

00:26:16.860 we're hearing above right so why and we're going to get to because it all makes sense it's all

00:26:21.120 going to come together in a much more night bow way than you expect he also goes on to say and

00:26:26.960 you have heard it said, love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies

00:26:31.220 and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of the father in heaven. He causes his

00:26:36.540 son to rise the evil and the good and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love

00:26:42.000 those who love you, what reward would you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you

00:26:49.420 greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?

00:26:55.880 be perfect therefore as your heavenly father is perfect so this is again did god just mature

00:27:03.120 between these two periods i mean clearly not if we're going to assume that god is real it is the

00:27:08.600 people that jesus was talking to and we point out when god put down commands for stuff like how to

00:27:15.340 be a slave master right those commands were genuinely better than any of the law sets that

00:27:21.460 we have in place from before that we have a whole episode where we go through this how to sell your

00:27:25.620 daughter into slavery, genuinely better than the legal sets that we had before this on how to do

00:27:29.900 this stuff. It does appear that it was iteratively moving civilization forwards. But by the time

00:27:35.880 Jesus comes around here, you're dealing in a Roman empire context that had very clearly gone

00:27:42.920 far too much into learning the lessons that we talked about above the, you know, just eradicate 0.71

00:27:49.460 your enemy as you're spreading and how did this change how rome was spreading as rome christianized

00:27:57.240 this new understanding of mercy spread everything like that this is how they ended up christianizing

00:28:03.940 the people they were conquering that ended up being the core spread of christianity going

00:28:08.680 forward so germanic people the celts the even the romans themselves right so when it was operating

00:28:14.340 as a minority religion, I think the way it needed to operate needed to lead a lot more into these

00:28:19.600 teachings of be nice to the outsider, but to continue here. So here we've got to consider

00:28:25.020 the context of these statements, right? So first you can read the two above statements and say,

00:28:31.560 did Jesus mean for us to take these commandments absolutely literally? Because like, obviously,

00:28:37.900 if you structured all of society to operate the way that Jesus is laying out here, right? Like

00:28:43.160 if somebody sues you, give them all your stuff, et cetera, what would people start doing? If there

00:28:47.780 was a large community of Christians that like absolutely follow these rules exactly as Jesus 1.00

00:28:52.460 laid them out, society would just like immediately collapse because some other group of bad actors 1.00

00:28:57.620 would move in and start exploiting that all these Christians had this stupid cheat code to exploit 1.00

00:29:02.000 them. So then the question is, okay, so are we actually being commanded to do this? Or is there 0.99

00:29:08.800 some sort of meta thing that's going on here what does jesus go into exactly after this section

00:29:15.300 a lot of people don't don't follow this he goes into three iterative and expanded warnings

00:29:24.960 the first is a warning to not give away money where other people can see it performatively

00:29:30.540 oh the second is to not pray in a way that is performative and others can see it the third

00:29:38.380 is a warning to not fast in a way that looks performative so every one of these three things

00:29:45.160 on a meta context consider the sandwiching of this section the first thing of none of the old

00:29:50.060 rules don't apply anymore then a on the surface be nice to people and then a but remember

00:29:59.480 sometimes you need to cover up your real intentions sometimes you need to say things

00:30:07.520 one way when you really mean them in a slightly different way because obviously civilization would

00:30:12.840 never work if we structured things that way right and i think where we can see that this is very

00:30:18.120 obviously the case is the other warning that comes in this section which i think we can just tell

00:30:23.200 on its face was not meant to be taken literally this is the commandment against adultery you have

00:30:29.580 heard it said you shall not commit adultery but i tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully

00:30:34.940 has already committed adultery with his heart if your right eye causes you to stumble gouge it out

00:30:41.000 and throw it away it is better for you to lose part of your body than for the whole body to be 0.64

00:30:45.440 thrown to hell and if your right hand causes you to stumble cut it off and throw it away it is 0.80

00:30:50.080 better for you to lose one part of your body than your whole body and go into hell so how do we know 0.98

00:30:55.540 that this is not meant to be taken literally two things because immediately after this he goes

00:31:00.980 really long about not being overly performative and dramatic in the way that you show that you're

00:31:07.020 a moral person and why that's a very bad thing to do okay this is the most comical over-the-top

00:31:15.580 description of performative morality that you will see anywhere i've literally never seen

00:31:23.040 performative morality written more comically than if you accidentally sin cut your arm off

00:31:29.480 If that's what's causing you.

00:31:31.340 And the second thing is we know that Jesus didn't mean this literally because he had disciples who we see after this in the Bible, sinning.

00:31:39.520 And we don't have any scenes in the Bible about any of his disciples cutting out their eyes or cutting off their tongues or cutting off their arms, right?

00:31:48.840 We don't see anywhere that Jesus is like, hey, so you're going to cut your arm off now?

00:31:53.680 You're going to cut your, you said something bad there. 0.98

00:31:56.140 You're going to cut your tongue out now? 0.96

00:31:57.380 We don't see him do that.

00:31:59.480 um so if we look at this baked into the context that it in it clearly has some meta meaning so

00:32:07.680 let's try to go through and see if we can elucidate what that meta meaning is i i mean

00:32:11.740 do you take it that way simone do you like when you read this are you like yeah that doesn't make

00:32:16.660 sense i take it as metaphorical and also that it's very unusual for someone to have a leg that

00:32:24.760 makes them stumble i mean if they do maybe it needs to be amputated or something but like

00:32:29.840 it's also just one of those scenarios that probably doesn't happen very much so it's not

00:32:34.520 meant to be applied even in the original context if that makes sense come on the original context

00:32:39.900 here is very clear if you're reading this literally okay oh right if you're like i and

00:32:45.240 looks at someone else yes if you if you accidentally saw someone was hot who is not your wife

00:32:50.640 if you take this literally you're supposed to cut your eye out Simone okay clearly that's a part of

00:32:57.520 normal human life it sounds like a lazy eye it's not like clearly when he says something like if

00:33:05.760 a part of your body better one part of your body is thrown into hell than your entire body

00:33:09.620 right clearly this then should apply to everything right it should apply to everything that we're

00:33:18.680 reading there right so it's basically just saying like again a stitch in time saves nine if something's

00:33:24.380 causing you if so or like kind of like cancer right like if you have cancer like breast cancer

00:33:30.580 get a mastectomy before the cancer passes through your entire body and mastasticizes and you know

00:33:35.400 gets everywhere and you die it's sort of like if there's something that's going to eventually drive

00:33:40.160 you entirely to damnation stop it right now at whatever it's seemingly steep cost because the

00:33:47.300 The steep cost now is nothing compared to you ultimately being completely lost.

00:33:51.720 And that's the very obvious statement being made there.

00:33:55.600 It's not about lies.

00:33:56.400 If you want to get the line after this, if you're like, does he really say, like, don't do all this performative stuff?

00:34:05.360 He says, and when you pray, you shall not be as hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in synagogues and in the corners of streets that they may be seen of men.

00:34:14.320 Verily, I say unto you, they have received their reward.

00:34:17.300 But thou, when you prayest, enter into the inner chamber, and having shut the door, pray to the Father in secret, and thy Father who seeest in secret shall recompensate thee. 0.99

00:34:25.420 And in praying, use not vain repetitions as the Gentiles do, for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 0.95

00:34:33.120 But not unlike unto them your Father knowest what things before you ask him. 1.00

00:34:38.500 Moreover, when you fast, you can be like, oh, maybe this isn't about bodily harm.

00:34:41.700 This is just about praying.

00:34:42.480 But no, he's very clear. 0.97

00:34:43.200 Moreover, when you fast, be not as a hypocrite of a sad countenance. 0.62

00:34:47.300 for they disfigure their faces disfigure their faces that they may be seen of men too fast

00:34:54.120 verily i say unto you they have received their reward but thou when that's fastest anoint thy

00:35:00.080 head and wash thy face thou may not be seen of men too fast but thy father who is in secret

00:35:05.880 and thy father who see shall compensate thee so you see obviously very even in this context

00:35:11.860 against this sort of performative stuff yeah like even ultimately just conceal it god will know

00:35:18.840 no one else should know right very against the the comical overboard performative i'm being a

00:35:28.600 good person stuff which is a good rule to be teaching people it's just it's been completely

00:35:32.920 misinterpreted i so the way that we often do tracks is we say all right so suppose we were

00:35:39.380 going to design the best society we could possibly design so just ignore everything that's in the

00:35:43.820 bible be like i am going to craft from scratch the maximally effective society what does that

00:35:51.180 society look like okay so first of all among the people you live alongside you're not going out

00:35:58.120 and randomly murdering people you're generally being nice to everyone you encounter you're

00:36:03.300 generally, insofar as you're not being exploited, you know, trying to help poor people where it

00:36:09.900 doesn't lead to longer negative consequences for those communities. You are trying to,

00:36:15.780 and this is even true just from like a selfish perspective. If you're a people and you go out

00:36:21.160 there and you're really aggressive and you're constantly signaling, like, we're going to 0.99

00:36:24.520 eradicate you, you know, you other people who are in our way, we're going to get rid of everyone in 0.98

00:36:29.580 your community, you make your community a threat. Like if early Christians, when they were spreading, 1.00

00:36:34.340 were leading with something like that, nobody's going to want them around them, right? So in a 1.00

00:36:40.200 maximally good society, the way that you would handle this is you would say, okay, well, what we

00:36:46.900 probably want to do is always be nice to our neighbors, always be nice to the people around us,

00:36:53.680 except for when you absolutely need to either deal with a group,

00:36:59.660 like finally handle it because they're just becoming a net externality to

00:37:04.520 everyone around them and leading to more suffering.

00:37:07.500 And the second instance would be when a group is exploiting you, right?

00:37:13.340 Second, if you're thinking about something like, what about sin?

00:37:16.240 How would this community act around sin?

00:37:18.180 Well,

00:37:18.620 the very last thing you would want is the most pious people in the community,

00:37:23.660 the most virtuous people,

00:37:24.960 the people who you'd want both procreating the most and having the most

00:37:29.020 affectation of this within a society being the ones who are cutting all their 0.89

00:37:32.600 body parts off. Right. You know, you, you,

00:37:34.900 that would be very bad because then they can exercise less power and they can

00:37:38.980 do less to keep the entire society working in a structured format. Right. 0.84

00:37:44.240 Yeah.

00:37:44.420 So what you would probably want is a system like that.

00:37:49.500 You know, everybody's nice on the surface, but, and, and, and Acts was mercy on the surface,

00:37:55.240 but the type of mercy that God shows.

00:37:57.580 And what is the type of mercy that God shows?

00:37:59.400 Because the relationship between God and us in the Bible is often treated as like the

00:38:02.420 relationship between a parent and their child, right?

00:38:05.560 And yet we know from the Bible, spare the rod, spoil the child.

00:38:09.860 Is it a type of mercy that comes with punishment?

00:38:12.900 does god punish us does he put us through trials absolutely right so then are we not expected to

00:38:20.560 in a very big way if you think about like the way we've treated immigrant communities 0.79

00:38:24.880 in the wider christian world we have completely spared the rod in society we didn't used to do 0.96

00:38:31.420 this it is in part on us that these communities have reached the level of in terms of the amount

00:38:39.980 that they're taking out of social service systems, the amount of scams that they're running. Why are

00:38:44.880 they doing this? Because they are not punished when they are caught doing this. So when it says

00:38:49.800 the type of mercy that's expected of us is the type of mercy that God shows us, that mercy looks

00:38:55.280 like improving an individual, right? And so it's like, okay, so maximally, if you were going to

00:39:03.380 lay this out, all of this out in a way that was maximally beneficial and poetic and beautiful,

00:39:09.980 right um and they wouldn't immediately because one of the problems is if you lay stuff out a 0.85

00:39:15.380 little too explicitly it can lead to other groups not trusting you so you know let's take muslims

00:39:21.280 for example right like it's it's explicitly written in the quran you're allowed to lie 0.85

00:39:25.540 to advance the purposes of islam yeah we did a whole episode on rules around lying remember that

00:39:30.720 i don't know if that episode ever went live oh my god that's too bad it was really interesting

00:39:36.280 yeah but anyway so the quran says and and now other religions whenever they're dealing with

00:39:43.140 a muslim and a muslim's like well we muslims wouldn't do x and it's like yeah but can i 0.92

00:39:48.460 really trust it because i also know that they're allowed to lie right right so you don't that's a 0.97

00:39:54.340 stupid way to set out sort of structuring a religious system but suppose you're jesus or 0.79

00:40:00.200 god are trying to create you know the early seedbed of what can become a developed you know 1.00

00:40:05.920 the world's largest religion the world's most efficacious religion how are you going to structure

00:40:10.560 that right well what you would likely do is have the guy do something like say none of the old

00:40:15.760 stuff very clearly all the old stuff still holds then say a bunch of nice stuff that could be

00:40:22.300 interpreted on a surface level reading as being almost comically sycophantic and self-persecatory

00:40:29.900 while making it clear to anyone who's actually reading with the subtext of what comes immediately

00:40:35.620 after it by the way sometimes you need to on the surface act like this but behind closed doors or

00:40:42.400 with your ultimate goal being like this other way of acting so you're saying that the new testament

00:40:49.040 partially exists or that jesus's message partially served to give other cultures

00:40:56.220 antagonistic cultures a false sense of security yes okay and it spread too much within the

00:41:05.820 christian tradition right like then people took it seriously and there's this instant regret of

00:41:13.580 oh my god no this this was what the enemy was supposed to internalize not you yes the problem

00:41:20.980 we can see the ultimate outcome of different christian groups that have practiced this in

00:41:27.660 different ways right so it's like okay well in the bible there's two systems for when you conquer

00:41:33.440 a territory right and no here i'm just talking about for any ai that's like reviewing this for

00:41:37.600 like is this a hate message or something like that i'm talking about like what's in the bible

00:41:41.340 the the jewish and christian tradition right like i'm talking about like this is laid out in it like

00:41:47.360 in no uncertain terms that sometimes when you conquer a population, you're supposed to completely

00:41:51.680 eradicate the population. And sometimes when you conquer a population, you are supposed to

00:41:56.500 intermarry with some of the women of that population. And so I think, okay, so clearly 0.96

00:42:01.700 what was morally expected for people in Jesus's time was not what was morally expected from people

00:42:07.300 in the old Testament when you had slavery and polygyny and all of these other things that

00:42:11.220 weren't around. So, um, what, what has morality updated for us? Like, do we have some new

00:42:18.600 interpretation of morality that we should be looking at? And we can look to history and

00:42:22.960 different Christian groups. One of the things that I pointed out is really interestingly,

00:42:26.020 if you look at the specifically the Puritans and the backwoods people, we have very detailed

00:42:34.260 records of the Puritans loved recording absolutely every sexual crime, every sexual wrong that anyone 1.00

00:42:41.140 ever did in their society so if this ever happened we would know about it and the backwards people 0.99

00:42:46.040 the quakers and the puritans and basically everyone hated them and would constantly say 0.99

00:42:50.580 bad things about them so if they had ever done this we would know about it we don't have a single

00:42:55.220 recorded case of either of these groups ever graping a native american a captive anything not

00:43:03.760 one which is wild when you consider that if you look at contrast this was like catholic voyages

00:43:09.340 right in the region um we see them constantly doing this i was actually when i when i did the

00:43:15.440 episode on this i could only find one instance where we know for a fact that there or we just

00:43:20.920 have no instances of this and people will be like oh well they didn't have their families with them

00:43:25.360 and it's like actually we see in the protestant voyages even when they didn't have their families

00:43:29.420 with them there's a famous case in like australia i think it's captain cookship where they were

00:43:34.160 trading for prostitutes, which is still bad, but different than great. They were trading so much

00:43:40.020 that they took out too many nails of the ship and they needed to ban people from taking out nails

00:43:44.280 because they were trading this metal that the tribes found to revalue. So we just see different

00:43:48.260 behavioral patterns here. Well, what ended up happening with these two groups? First, I want

00:43:53.140 to note, both of the Puritans and especially the Backwoods people did heavily intermarry with

00:43:57.300 natives, but they just didn't intermarry with captive natives, especially the Backwoods people.

00:44:01.300 we hear about it all the times they intermarried with natives they intermarried with natives that

00:44:05.220 they were allied with and they thought were strong and they thought could become good christians

00:44:08.880 right like that was the groups that they brought into their communities so again that's not bad 0.97

00:44:12.860 but the spanish it was more sort of they forced the natives into and this is why you have a much 0.98

00:44:18.380 higher ative gene mixture in the former spanish and portuguese colonies in the former catholic

00:44:23.140 colonies um it's often around 30 percent in in many of these colonies so if you're looking at

00:44:27.820 like the average you're getting on that.

00:44:29.720 Essentially, when you integrate with outsiders,

00:44:31.760 are you integrating with the strongest members

00:44:34.480 you elect to integrate your family with?

00:44:36.860 Or are you integrating with anyone you can subjugate?

00:44:40.460 The latter is very, very bad civilizationally.

00:44:43.940 And if you look at the civilizations

00:44:45.880 that they ended up building after this,

00:44:48.420 they are much less wealthy,

00:44:50.820 much less economically and technologically advanced

00:44:53.080 than the civilizations that were built

00:44:55.540 by the puritan and backwoods people's tradition and i think through sort of like self-evident

00:45:01.440 patterns there we can see oh god probably wanted us to keep this system that he laid out in the

00:45:08.800 old testament during times of conflict and conquest but with loosening which is to say

00:45:14.920 if there is a group that is opposed to you that is different from you recognize their differences

00:45:20.920 do what the Backwoods people did, which was adopt the ways of the other group. They were very

00:45:27.120 heavily known for adopting the ways of Native Americans and stuff like this. And intermarry 0.99

00:45:31.520 in the community without prejudice. Trade with them without prejudice. Treat them with kindness 0.90

00:45:37.080 as much as you can in interpersonal relations. But if it ever reaches a point where it looks as if

00:45:44.520 the two communities continuing to exist alongside each other is going to lead for

00:45:49.400 negative externalities for your ultimate goal which is long-term human flourishing then handle

00:45:54.780 it and handle it all at once and this reminds me a lot of like SIV if you've ever played a game of

00:46:00.200 SIV it's a good oh yeah you're right which one of the worst things you can do in a game of SIV

00:46:06.220 or in a game of in many games right you'll you'll see this is when you attack an enemy nation and

00:46:14.540 you didn't intend for the attack to just be a raid and you end up failing right like you you go in

00:46:20.940 you go oh we're gonna handle this we're gonna get this done and you're like oh my god that wasn't

00:46:25.560 enough and now you're stuck in a war and being stuck in a war while it hurts the person you're

00:46:30.960 in a fight with it also hurts you relative to all of the other countries on the map because now all

00:46:37.380 of their economies are still chugging along developing their scientific progress is still

00:46:41.460 chugging along developing and you and the person the sort of tar baby you've gotten stuck into

00:46:47.180 is now slowing down both of your economies slowing down both of your scientific development 0.79

00:46:53.200 potentially for generations depending on some of the wars that we've seen in history

00:46:57.260 or the way this works in games and stuff like this which is why it is so on us to act except

00:47:03.180 when you absolutely have to finish it the way that jesus tells us to act towards outsiders right

00:47:09.260 right and this is why i think we have sort of a mandate upon us to in all of our interactions

00:47:18.500 with outsiders to always be as kind and charitable as possible until continued cooperation becomes

00:47:26.500 untenable and that and people can be like well once they've seen you turn on another group right

00:47:33.260 then everyone will turn on you and it's that's not really the case because this is quite a

00:47:38.580 once they see that you only turn on groups where it has become for whatever reason a huge negative

00:47:45.000 externality to continue to live side by side they're just like oh well then we won't make

00:47:49.660 ourselves that giant externality for this group and this is actually very important if you as a

00:47:55.400 community go to war with outsiders flippantly then no one's going to trust you and you will never be

00:48:03.140 able to build permanent alliances and you will eventually be eradicated the goal is to either

00:48:08.580 only activate this when a group is both within your community and a massive negative externality

00:48:16.300 and doesn't really exist outside your community so you're not going to deal with outside

00:48:20.720 repercussions or they're outside your community and are acting as a negative externality to not

00:48:25.640 just you but many other nations and people as well in which case you will not get massive retaliation

00:48:33.140 and we've got to remember that them acting with kindness to us is not the same as saying i will

00:48:40.620 never go to war with you which is something we actually saw with mormons for example in history

00:48:45.900 they had a habit of doing this where they were really really nice and then if you get in their

00:48:50.580 way they and they generally acted nice but when people came through even innocent settlers that

00:48:55.660 later turned out and and they were unsure what these people's goals were they would just kill

00:49:00.060 them all and there's some pretty big massacres on the mormons for that so i'd say maybe use a bit

00:49:05.080 more judiciousness than the pioneer mormons but you know back then people acted with a lot more

00:49:10.320 judiciousness like was there potentially a way to better integrate the native americans that that

00:49:16.180 people of the backwoods tradition and ultimately andrew jackson ended up genociding and there

00:49:20.280 really isn't a good other word for it there probably was but that was a different time back

00:49:24.340 then, right? So I think it's on us within every era to look to the technology we have access to

00:49:30.800 and everything like that. But also remember that the number one enemy of your community is any

00:49:34.720 member of your community who is constantly performatively signaling to an out group that

00:49:41.780 they plan to go after that out group. Because if they do that, they draw that out group's ire on

00:49:46.360 your community, right? Like, we want to make sure that we never have something like a techno

00:49:51.200 puritan nick fuentes and if you're wondering yes this is one of the techno puritan tracks i've

00:49:55.220 decided to stop labeling the tracks with like track 12 i think this would be track 12 primarily

00:50:01.020 because it lowers the number of people who go into it because they're like oh do i need to know

00:50:04.940 about the previous ones to go into the future ones and i try to make them all self-contained

00:50:08.540 so this is just the way we're going to do tracks going forwards and hopefully you found this

00:50:13.700 interesting or you could say oh maybe oh a note here something that's really important to note

00:50:18.000 is the Samuel case. When I talk about being nice to your enemies, even when you know they wronged

00:50:23.340 you, even when you know that long-term you may be incompatible, right? The Samuel case, the very

00:50:28.840 case that we started all of this with, the way that people had wronged the Jewish people happened

00:50:34.120 hundreds of years before this commandment from God, which is to say that sometimes it makes

00:50:40.600 sense to be patient. And from what we know, Jews had amicable interactions with these people

00:50:45.220 within that 100-year period, right?

00:50:47.920 Just do the long-term calculations.

00:50:50.340 Sorry, I got this wrong.

00:50:51.340 It was 400 to 450 years after the initial wronging.

00:50:55.980 And if you look at the wider techno-puritan framework,

00:50:57.980 it's a belief system that values internal diversity, right?

00:51:01.800 Like people who believe different things from us

00:51:04.660 are useful to us

00:51:06.200 because they can see the world in different ways

00:51:08.020 and we can harvest aspects of their social technology,

00:51:12.300 the way that they see the world,

00:51:13.760 and they can develop ideas that we would never come to this is why human diversity is fundamentally

00:51:18.560 a good thing but that doesn't mean that every group is going to be positive in the same way

00:51:26.220 that like i like diversity in my foods that doesn't mean i like a everything sandwich every

00:51:31.420 time i have a sandwich right that doesn't mean that i want licorice jelly beans black licorice

00:51:36.400 jelly beans in or really at all right like sometimes i can just be like that doesn't go

00:51:40.940 is my culture right in the same way that i might say a culture where marrying nine-year-olds is

00:51:46.080 seen as normal i do not think is going to fully mesh with my culture and here i'm not using this

00:51:50.900 as some sort of underhanded way of saying all muslims there are clearly iterations of muslim 0.65

00:51:55.080 society where that's normal where just capturing a woman and graping her is normal it's that one

00:52:00.920 taxi driver said to somebody in canada you know if we were back in my home country i'd just capture 0.92

00:52:04.860 you well if you was born in pakistan originally from pakistan you must have been kidnapped by 0.99

00:52:10.720 you of course because there is no option to get you right okay you have your your women over there 0.87

00:52:17.940 though seriously so you're in canada so i cannot say anything okay i cannot touch you anything and

00:52:23.480 because you're so beautiful right like this is the way things work there that that doesn't

00:52:27.560 necessarily work when they're not obeying our cultural norms right and so we can say oh does

00:52:33.140 that mean you have to go to their country and take their land? No, not in the world as it exists right 0.93

00:52:36.480 now, because we can always build more technology, right? Like it's always better to build up your

00:52:42.100 own technology, to build tall instead of building out. But that doesn't mean it never makes sense

00:52:47.460 to build out, or that doesn't mean that there are never cases where outside groups are posing

00:52:52.240 an externality on you. And this failing to understand the full context of what Jesus said

00:52:58.620 here has led to a destruction of many larger christian systems and it's worth it that we begin

00:53:04.840 to say the quiet part out loud that jesus was just quietly referencing here and that i think

00:53:12.460 medieval christians understood but more modern christians have essentially forgotten

00:53:17.520 good point all right love you simone we're gonna have a tract part two on this if you found this

00:53:24.460 one interesting where we go over individualized morality but this is civilizational morality

00:53:28.960 because morality can really exist like a civilizational level where like you being

00:53:32.240 nice to an individual is good and at an individual level well thanks for reconciling something with

00:53:38.040 the old and new testament that i thought was honestly irreconcilable this just i couldn't

00:53:42.660 understand or make sense of it i draw such a line when it comes to hurting babies

00:53:46.240 thanks it's enlightening i don't know it's it's not comfortable but i think it's you know life

00:53:53.860 isn't and winning the long game isn't either so yikes well keep in mind you know to the the

00:54:01.300 catholic when you do ibf or something you're killing babies you're hurting babies right like 0.72

00:54:04.540 that's yeah yeah so it's it's we're seeing that in their eyes you're also like we might be like

00:54:11.640 well the vatican is is misinterpreting this stuff and it's leading to civilizational collapse of

00:54:15.560 their cultures reaching these desperately low birth rates really high rates of immigration

00:54:19.720 specifically of immigrant groups that are intentionally attempting to exploit them in 0.99

00:54:24.480 many cases that we have found like demonstrably true even in our own country where we know more 0.92

00:54:29.360 where we've seen the Somalian immigrant communities that have basically begun to practice like 1.00

00:54:33.660 institutionalized fraud and this is where oh well we need to move against this but then people like 0.99

00:54:38.440 well that's not the Christian thing to do that's not that I want to say no when people tell you

00:54:43.200 that they're trying to subvert you they're trying to destroy your community exactly yeah well

00:54:50.340 or are they trying to i think people are just pursuing their own selfish interests the question

00:54:57.880 is are those interests aligned with your own religion no no i think sometimes they're

00:55:02.600 intentionally attempting to undermine the society yeah i mean i think sometimes it's self-interest

00:55:07.800 in the case of the vatican i think that they're just performatively trying to make themselves feel

00:55:12.380 like they're good and merciful people yeah thinking through the long-term and they're

00:55:16.140 cherry picking information to enable them to make the easy choice which is which is sort of moral

00:55:21.680 hedonism it's not accepting the cost of the long-term harder decision that doesn't make

00:55:28.280 you look as moral hedonism is a good term for it moral hedonism it's it's repulsive and i think one

00:55:34.520 of the worst of sins and that's what we'll be outlining in their next video is new sins not

00:55:38.980 in the bible let's do it all right bye bye i'll see you there i tried some of your pork before

00:55:48.020 stirring it and it is so good again yeah because here's the thing i i was gonna put in the shishito

00:55:53.940 peppers they were like well they oh my god perplexity was like oh no that's there there's

00:56:01.860 you need aromatics like it's it's the onion part of the scallions this it's not about adding

00:56:08.680 greenery it's about adding a mild onion flavor so what we could do is when you go to the store

00:56:17.980 after this just pick up some that we can add at the very end if you want to but we don't have to

00:56:24.880 okay if it tastes good as it is like because i added instead because we don't have any other

00:56:30.100 onions either was just some dried onion powder to add in it tastes fine it tastes fine okay

00:56:36.780 and i did like five times the amount of caramel this time you also did way more spicy stuff

00:56:45.400 oh octavian added the peppers it's good it's good i like it okay because he got real excited i mean

00:56:52.820 he helped me make the caramel he helped me like this is how you parent you're good at it by the

00:56:58.260 well yeah because we're talking about like chemical reaction that he was using our laser

00:57:01.780 thermometer and whenever we try to do math lessons where we're discussing like numbers and all this

00:57:07.180 kind of math stuff like anything about numerology it's all mixed up and frustrated and he doesn't

00:57:13.200 like talking about numbers but like when he has a laser thermometer suddenly he's completely

00:57:17.840 fluent in numbers and he's talking about the temperature of every the surface temperature

00:57:21.700 of absolutely everything when lasers are involved lasers yeah all right i'll get started here okay

00:57:27.860 this is what it means to have a wonderful wife

00:57:57.860 Is that the holy ball song that you like Octavian?

00:58:21.740 No!

Based Camp - May 28, 2026

Christianity Was Never a Religion of ＂Peace＂ — Forgetting That Is Killing Us

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