Based Camp - Courtesans & Concubines： Why We Need Them Back

00:00:00.000 What I like about the term courtesan is it helps separate between a true housewife and the more

00:00:08.300 modern trad wife, which I think is closer to a courtesan. If you look at the trad wife, right,

00:00:13.900 the trad wife makes everything look pretty, right? She does up the house. She does the

00:00:18.580 baking from scratch and everything. And she's doing all that for a period. She's doing all that

00:00:24.540 to to sell that he has a certain type of wife but like she's not actually managing the family budget

00:00:30.280 right like she's not actually managing the deeper parts of the family and many people who society at

00:00:37.080 large would confuse they would say well this woman stays at home and educates the kids as part of her

00:00:42.440 duties therefore she's the same type of thing as this trad woman specifically we'll be delineating

00:00:49.020 two categories of relationships one the courtesan relationship where the woman believes that their

00:00:56.020 core job vis-a-vis their partner is just their partner's pleasure and reproducing whereas the

00:01:03.000 other the true wife or housewife sees their job as being fully integrated with their husband's

00:01:09.940 life and advancing the interests of their family would you like to know more hello simone i'm

00:01:14.820 excited to be here with you today today we are going to be expanding on a concept that a fan

00:01:20.780 came up with in response to a previous video and it is that we should bring back the concept of

00:01:29.180 concubine and when i first heard this i was like well we don't want to normalize sort of you know

00:01:36.260 promiscuous behavior in this regards there's a lot of negative social externalities for doing it

00:01:42.320 But after they laid it out for me, I'm like, actually, we need to start having a conversation

00:01:48.240 about this. We need to normalize this concept. This is a good concept. So let me explain.

00:01:55.220 We had a video where we basically go over the history of male and female labor. And what we

00:02:01.940 pointed out using a lot of statistics, a lot of historical examples is the modern idea that

00:02:09.100 throughout history men mostly did all the labor and women mostly stayed at home and did education

00:02:15.840 and child rearing is just completely historically anachronistic women actually did the majority

00:02:22.160 and i and i mean the majority of like grueling labor like repetitive subsistence subsistence

00:02:31.100 labor so sort of your baseline food and everything else was more or less if you're talking about like

00:02:37.800 the majority of human history was during the hunter-gatherer period. That's 95% of human

00:02:42.000 history. Women were doing 60 to 70% of the calories in those societies. And then you

00:02:47.820 transition to an agricultural society. And in most agricultural societies, women do the farming

00:02:52.320 until the plow was invented. And then somebody else was like, and this is men. Men plow for like

00:02:58.040 200 years and go, F it, I'm making a tractor. Women do hoe-based farming for literally thousands

00:03:04.340 of years and continue to do it exactly the way they've always done it by the way home-based

00:03:09.080 farming the fact that Simone loved from that episode that she just cannot get enough of

00:03:13.040 is we pointed out that the idea of women staying at home and not really doing much except for

00:03:19.820 child rearing and education came from the the like sort of middle-class wealthy whites in America

00:03:26.240 during a short window like the 1910s to the 1970s and it was like well what about poorer people

00:03:31.660 during that period and this is where the word ho comes from is it was because specifically black

00:03:36.420 women but though i suspect that this is like you know nowadays they try to racialize a lot of

00:03:40.400 things that weren't racialized it probably just meant poor women in general were hoes because

00:03:45.600 they worked the farm and that's what made them hoes so it didn't mean a a promiscuous woman it

00:03:51.060 meant a poor uneducated woman but we we start talking about all this and by the way if you're

00:03:56.780 wondering like what were the types of work that men did historically they typically did things

00:04:00.120 tied to war or things tied to artisanship so if you needed a cobbler or a woodcutter or a builder

00:04:06.640 or an architect or a sailor like if it required a huge amount of skill outside of textiles it was

00:04:13.900 typically men doing it and don't underestimate how much work textiles were or how much work

00:04:18.880 other things that people dismiss like weeding weeding your garden is one thing weeding a field

00:04:25.900 that's feeding a family is significantly more work than plowing it for anyone who's ever weeded

00:04:32.040 weeding is is difficult backbreaking and recurring labor but which was typically a woman's job by

00:04:38.620 the way but when in the sort of fallout from this episode people were going through it and they said

00:04:44.580 you know what because we were talking about the way that women historically actually structured

00:04:49.820 their relationship with men right like if the man was doing some sort of artisanal job like say a

00:04:54.500 butcher or a cobbler or a blacksmith the wife would typically manage the book manage the finances

00:04:59.260 manage the storefront manage the marketing manage the the the sourcing of goods and we put this out

00:05:06.220 there and we put it out with the concept of like a sword and shield relationship in a modern context

00:05:10.700 which is like the wife is in charge of the more stable part of the income and the man is in charge

00:05:15.160 of like entrepreneurship like big fish like moving the family forwards and a lot of people who are

00:05:20.880 actually and I think what we would consider more trad relationships still really related to this

00:05:26.300 concept they were like well like while I or because we have a lot of housewife listeners

00:05:32.420 so while I or my wife this was actually more rare take on what society would call a housewife job

00:05:40.820 that is not actually what I'm doing I actually manage our investments I manage our finances

00:05:46.040 I manage our taxes. I manage the sort of procuring and stocking the home with supplies,

00:05:52.700 getting things fixed. I manage like a huge variety of stuff. And we then began to talk

00:05:59.440 about how there's a new type of woman that has come to exist that isn't this type of woman.

00:06:04.960 So this type of woman is engaging in what the married wife has always done, right? Which is to

00:06:10.480 say they join and like historically if you went to a blacksmith historically right and you sat him

00:06:20.860 and his wife down and you're like look lady i know you manage the storefront and the money and the

00:06:26.260 taxes and all that but you shouldn't right like your husband should manage all that and what she

00:06:31.580 would of course say is but then he's gonna have less time to make stuff yeah and and you're like

00:06:37.680 well yeah but like you know he's a man you're a woman and she'd look at you and be like but like

00:06:44.200 that money doesn't just go to him it goes to the entire family you're telling me to be arbitrarily

00:06:50.800 poorer so that i can what sit at home and twiddle my my thumb all day like what what's the advantage

00:06:58.300 to me to stepping back from this when our fortunes as used to historically be the case in relationships

00:07:06.220 are completely tethered together as he does better i do better as he does worse i do worse

00:07:12.660 why would i not help him in the ways that i can help him and people said there's this new type

00:07:19.380 of woman who doesn't think that way and this is where the concept of concubine makes sense

00:07:25.960 in bringing back is that be they married or not there is a certain type of woman who does not

00:07:35.180 believe that she should be adding anything substantial to the relationship in terms of

00:07:41.600 intellectual labor or labor more broadly right like purely ornamental she is purely ornamental

00:07:48.100 and she may still have his kids as concubines did historically but she doesn't she she's not

00:07:55.660 a part of like a team where both people are pushing things forwards and the moment i heard this

00:08:02.760 i was like that's a really good effing point because if we can re-normalize the concept

00:08:09.180 of a concubine we can re-normalize the fear of being seen as a concubine now thoughts simone

00:08:15.900 before i i i yap further as they say on twitch now that i know because i i do the twitch they

00:08:23.020 say yeah are we old by the way did you know what a raid is on twitch i didn't know what a raid it

00:08:27.280 was is it when a bunch of people from someone else's stream go into yours yeah that's what i

00:08:32.260 thought it was it's not what is it so what happens is when you sign off twitch because you'll likely

00:08:39.360 have a bunch of people still watching you like at the end of least like stream it's still like well

00:08:42.660 over a thousand you can set it to automatically send all those people to another streamer oh

00:08:48.500 that's called a raid oh that's cool that's why people say thanks for the raid so and so

00:08:55.820 nice okay yeah i i like the idea one reason why i like the idea of the courtesan is i think that

00:09:03.960 it at least helps to create it helps to highlight what a normal wife actually is and that this thing

00:09:11.700 that people are optimizing for now as a default which is the courtesan most people now when

00:09:20.820 they're looking for a partner seem to be describing an un a courtesan but an unpaid courtesan and i

00:09:28.660 think that's also really important a companion that is attractive that will make them happy

00:09:34.720 that is that is going to like entertain them but for whatever reason they also expect that that

00:09:41.580 they're not going to have to like pay for or support this person like sugar daddy style

00:09:47.840 and that just is inherently unsustainable i mean i think a lot of them do plan to well i actually

00:09:53.720 like these two versions so let's break this out because i think you're you're creating an

00:09:58.420 interesting distinction here which makes it even worse right where a woman or may say i'm not a

00:10:05.100 courtesan i go to work and i earn my own money right and it's like actually you're worse than

00:10:12.500 a courtesan in that part like i don't know what word we should make for this type of woman but

00:10:17.240 i'll describe what i'm talking about women do it to men too they want the man to be attractive and

00:10:22.360 to entertain them and make them happy and pleasure them but they also don't expect to like invest

00:10:28.400 anything in men to pay into a family coffer there are many women who do the exact opposite and this

00:10:34.740 is what i'm talking about here the lower than a courtesan woman this is a woman who gets married

00:10:39.780 to a guy and she sees her role as entertaining him having sex with him you know and entertaining

00:10:46.420 can be like playing video games with him or something you know whatever it means to watching

00:10:50.240 movies with him at night you know whatever right like courtesan stuff because this is the modern

00:10:54.260 version of courtesan stuff but worse worse than all of that she still has a job but she takes the

00:11:02.380 income she makes from that job and she treats it as entirely her own right like it's money just for

00:11:08.360 her this woman is less and i'm sure everyone has seen women online who are like this the guy makes

00:11:15.200 money and it's for everyone in the family the girl makes money it's just for her fun stuff

00:11:19.560 is that really common i don't know very common very common yeah i mean i watch a lot of like

00:11:25.260 couples finance shows and that's not what i see i i don't think that's that is what you think it is

00:11:31.980 okay well if anyone is doing this they are less than a courtesan because they're literally

00:11:36.600 an unpaid courtesan he's not even keeping you right like you're out there being a hoe to

00:11:43.660 capitalism and being a hoe for your husband well i understand that but that's i don't i think that's

00:11:49.340 a straw man i think what's really common is one i mean we audience audience in the comments do you

00:11:55.040 know people who have done this yeah continue simon recently there was a term for like courtesan

00:12:00.560 that was more modern and it was trophy wife and people did treat this as a profession we know

00:12:05.820 people yeah who absolutely like as and like by treat this as a profession i mean treat it as a

00:12:13.180 profession i mean like watched corn to learn how to perform as people might desire starved self to

00:12:21.820 fit in right size you know invested in the right clothing and then you know once actually paired

00:12:27.700 and we'll say employed as a trophy wife working extremely hard to make dinner special to make

00:12:34.240 holiday special to to provide all the you know pleasure and enjoyment famously when marie antoinette

00:12:42.560 was first introduced to the french court and to king louis the the 15th he she she made an inquiry

00:12:50.240 about the the king's courtesan at the time i think it was madame bovary i'm really i'm so bad with

00:12:57.100 names but the hold on hold on simone's like i'm bad with names that she cannot remember one of

00:13:05.120 the king's courtesans during a particular period of the french court this shows you the level of

00:13:10.740 history nerd that simone is i know i i can name most of them from for louis the 14th because the

00:13:16.540 love the the book on the love life of king louis the 14th is amazing and there's atenaise there's

00:13:21.900 madame de metinon there's all these amazing women but i i don't i think it's madame de beaufort

00:13:27.720 anyway so marie antoinette this this young teen bride of king louis well future king louis the

00:13:33.120 16th asks you know who is this woman and her essentially her advisor you know another noble

00:13:39.700 woman in the court is like oh that is you know so and so her job is to give pleasure to the king

00:13:45.340 and her being this like really innocent kind of like sheltered you know Austrian woman it would

00:13:50.660 be like well then you know we are rivals because I want to give pleasure to the king and she's like

00:13:53.880 oh you don't understand girl like not no but like it was very well understood that their profession

00:14:00.400 was to give pleasure to this person and I think that people who took the trophy wife career

00:14:06.260 seriously, and we know people who did, understand that their job is to give pleasure to their

00:14:12.000 partner and also to raise their social status, because it was understood that as a trophy wife,

00:14:16.300 they have to make them look good in a certain way. And so they dress their husbands carefully,

00:14:20.640 they manage their husband's style, they manage the husband's household, they make their houses

00:14:23.840 look good, they host events. And that was taken very seriously. And I think that that role

00:14:27.880 really degraded, and you can see it very well in the Real Housewives series, where suddenly

00:14:35.760 this idea of the trophy wife was transitioned to no she is the main character she is not an

00:14:42.320 ornamental courtesan whose job is to give pleasure to her husband and raise you know make him look

00:14:46.840 good and make him happy her job is to just like i'm gonna do what i want and i have my businesses

00:14:52.620 and i'm gonna you know sell dog shoes for charity or something like that yeah and and they're

00:14:58.220 incredibly dysfunctional etc etc i started this charity because i saw so many dogs having to walk

00:15:04.880 the hot streets of Orlando without any protection on their feet.

00:15:12.120 But it's also personal.

00:15:14.940 This one time, I lost my high heels on the beach.

00:15:20.060 And I was looking around for them

00:15:23.000 for like over a half an hour.

00:15:26.600 It was awful. It was awful. I told myself.

00:15:29.720 So with your help, each dog will receive their own pair of high heels.

00:15:36.220 And for that, you can be very proud.

00:15:38.840 So that role fell apart.

00:15:40.880 And I think as that role fell apart, we sort of forgot that this was a profession and a track in marriage.

00:15:47.040 And that there are two tracks.

00:15:48.160 You can be a trophy wife, but you have to be a trophy wife for someone who can afford to keep you.

00:15:52.740 and i think what it also degraded was that a lot of people just assumed that they were going to

00:15:59.460 marry functionally a courtesan and not a business partner we forgot that marriage was an arrangement

00:16:05.140 first and foremost to just establish paternity of children and like inform the community to like

00:16:11.080 don't sleep with my wife because i need to make sure that like the line of paternity is secure

00:16:16.160 but also to establish a business alignment and have a husband and wife work together and we

00:16:20.920 with the industrial revolution dropped that right like when you are the same person

00:16:27.840 you had a documentary again we're asking it recently like when do you guys fight like tell

00:16:33.040 us about fights and i'm like we just don't have fights like we have tactical disagreements which

00:16:38.020 we resolve by obtaining better evidence yeah like why would we why would we fight when we

00:16:45.340 have the same goals any disagreement we have is an academic disagreement um the key distinction

00:16:53.500 here is that people need to understand that if you are hiring the equivalent of a paid entertainer

00:17:02.000 and performer it is your responsibility to be able to pay for and keep them and that person

00:17:08.940 needs to understand that it is their responsibility to in turn perform and give pleasure and make you

00:17:16.060 look good and our our media landscape has has degraded even that especially through the the

00:17:21.800 Real Housewives series has just made it been like oh no they they don't live to make what I find

00:17:27.820 interesting about the point that you're making here by the way and it is it is just absolutely

00:17:33.320 a fascinating point which is that the idea of renormalizing the concept of the courtesan

00:17:41.360 doesn't just help trad wife marriages it also helps courtesan marriages yeah because it helps

00:17:48.660 remind them of what their actual role is in the marriage when they adopt this yeah they are both

00:17:55.220 disposable and less than a true wife if they are not contributing their intellect and note here we

00:18:02.400 had one follower reach out in regards to this and he's like, well, you know, I'm very successful

00:18:07.800 now. I run a company now. So how am I going to find a wife? Like, do I have to leave it all

00:18:12.600 behind and start something new with them? Right. Like how do I make this work? Right. And there's

00:18:17.420 multiple ways you can make it work. One is to integrate somebody who shows competence and

00:18:23.020 diligence and work ethic into your existing operation. Right. Like that is something that

00:18:27.760 a lot of people have done historically but then another is which is probably better is is figure

00:18:32.700 out what they value that you value right presumably if you're making a lot of money with your company

00:18:38.340 there's some way you want to change the world and working with them to start that organization

00:18:42.800 right like a a wife wife who is working for your combined goals can still work philanthropically

00:18:50.700 right like but but so long as they're a fiction and effective at it and they're not just doing

00:18:56.340 it to boost their own ego and status right and you'll be able to tell this very quickly do they

00:19:01.700 actually care about these things or are they interested in status boosting

00:19:04.900 yeah that's that's an interesting point and so this is what i want from the audience i want what

00:19:12.440 is what is the lower tier of trophy because i i think and i don't think the trophy wife is good

00:19:17.580 because trophy wife as as a saying is too narrow right like a lot of people who wanted the life of

00:19:24.220 a courtesan didn't think of themselves as trophy wives because they didn't just want the the

00:19:30.020 traditional trophy wife guy right and and a note here that what i like about the term courtesan

00:19:36.280 is it helps separate between a true housewife and the more modern trad wife which i think is closer

00:19:45.260 to a court courtesan if you look at the trad wife right the trad wife makes everything look pretty

00:19:50.920 right she like does up the house she does in her stupid outfit she you know she's she she does the

00:19:57.160 baking from scratch and everything and she's doing all that for a period she's doing all that to

00:20:03.340 to sell both to herself and her husband that he has a certain type of wife but like she's not

00:20:08.720 actually managing the family budget right like she's not actually managing the deeper parts of

00:20:13.240 the family and many people who society at large would confuse they would say well this woman

00:20:19.860 stays at home and educates the kids as part of her duties therefore she's the same type of thing

00:20:25.780 as this trad woman and yet one of these women is living the life of a courtesan where she's

00:20:31.020 sitting around all day you know either playing video games or reading you know romance novels

00:20:36.420 or whatever and the other one is is working all day long right like for the good of the family

00:20:41.900 for moving the family's interests forwards and these are two very different and note here

00:20:47.680 because i know some trophy wives and courtesans would be like well i am doing it for the family

00:20:52.280 and i'm like does the rest of the family care about these sexual circles you're trying to

00:20:55.300 ingratiate yourself with and if the answer is no then you're not doing it for the family you're

00:20:59.520 doing it for yourself and you're defining what has value on behalf of the family

00:21:03.660 which is obviously i think very bad that's like worse than anything like that because it's like

00:21:12.100 you're defining the good of the family and that needs to always be a collective decision and if

00:21:18.020 you can't convince your husband that what you think is valuable for the family is valuable

00:21:22.480 for the family yet he's still letting you do it then you're acting as a courtesan you are not

00:21:26.820 acting as a wife thoughts yeah i mean i i agree with you but largely people have lost the plot

00:21:37.480 when people are very much stuck in their own minds focused on these it's not it's not even

00:21:45.400 selfish because people aren't doing things that would actually make them happy ironically yeah

00:21:50.100 they aren't they're caught in what i guess i could describe as why cultural delusions they're

00:21:55.500 they're stuck in cultural loops and cultural delusions and pursuing them to their personal

00:22:01.720 detriment the detriment of their partner and the detriment of the relationship this isn't

00:22:06.720 exclusive to women it happens to men too and the most important thing is that when you're looking

00:22:11.780 for a partner you're looking for someone who shares your objective function they want to

00:22:16.300 maximize the same thing or cluster of things that you do and you both realize you work well enough

00:22:22.960 together that by combining forces you will both maximize your objective function the thing that

00:22:29.280 matters more to you than your own self more as a team than you will individually and if that's true

00:22:35.700 you never have to worry about so long as you both you know continue your pursuit of this

00:22:42.420 objective function you're never going to fight because you understand that both you know your

00:22:49.100 your job isn't to just be happy and get what i want and you know every fight isn't about well

00:22:55.000 what i want versus what you want every disagreement you may ever have is really more like well

00:22:59.700 tactically how are we going to maximize what we both collectively value yeah and just as an

00:23:05.840 emergent property you're going to try to make the other person happy and have have a good life

00:23:11.040 because you understand as any good employer does as any good army general does that you know if

00:23:17.240 your troops if your team is happy and healthy and thriving they're going to do a better job

00:23:23.300 you know it's you're not going to get really good work out of someone who's demoralized or sleep

00:23:27.580 deprived or sad or who feels alienated. So just as an emergent property, you're going to try to

00:23:33.960 be nice to this person. And people in general tend to be nice to other people who share their

00:23:39.660 interests. Plus there's nothing that gives greater contentment and happiness than knowing that you

00:23:46.160 are doing everything you can within your power to maximize something you value. It takes the FOMO

00:23:52.000 out of life. There is no fear of missing out because you are always doing the very best you can

00:23:57.100 to maximize your basket of values.

00:24:00.860 So there's very little indecision there.

00:24:03.580 Contrast that with the modern real housewife

00:24:06.600 or the modern, even just like dink couple.

00:24:09.900 And there's intense levels of FOMO.

00:24:12.320 It's like, oh, well, we decided to max out our credit card

00:24:16.260 and travel to Greece this summer,

00:24:18.320 but should we have gone to Tokyo instead?

00:24:21.200 I don't know.

00:24:21.980 And then they get to Greece and it's so hot

00:24:23.880 and it's really expensive.

00:24:25.080 and then their flight gets canceled you know like all these things and and you know you're

00:24:29.740 running well could i could i have been happier if we did this i is this even what i enjoy am i just

00:24:35.780 doing this because i see people doing it on instagram like there's just so even if what

00:24:40.660 you want to optimize is happiness you're not going to find it with that kind of pursuit

00:24:44.660 oh yeah no Christians are never as happy as as true wise right no i so i disagree i think that

00:24:53.020 some of the most successful figures in history were courtesans and they were they happy yeah

00:24:59.820 but they so to be a courtesan is i think very different from what people have devolved into

00:25:05.380 now you know they they had a career for example consider madame pompadour who died young and and

00:25:11.420 was very much missed she was extremely intellectual she influenced policy she absolutely made the king

00:25:20.680 happy and she was very good at what she did and she was very influential there are definitely

00:25:26.760 people who you know know what they're good at and and they love it and you know that was her

00:25:32.840 her job was to be you know smart and attractive and to give pleasure and she did it well

00:25:37.320 and that's good i think you need to you need to understand what your role is in a relationship

00:25:42.460 some venereal disease it wasn't a venereal disease i can't remember what it was probably

00:25:47.760 some sort of like pox or virus or whatever people died all the time we should we should do an

00:25:52.300 episode famous sluts of history it wasn't even always sluts i mean a lot of the people who ended

00:25:57.180 up as as courtesans you know didn't necessarily want to be it just kind of turned out that way

00:26:02.600 but yeah i i don't think i don't think it's about whether you choose courtesan track versus wife

00:26:08.520 track or as a husband whether you choose to get a courtesan versus a wife or a wife and a courtesan

00:26:14.740 like a lot of the guys in history had both the you know you have to understand what your resources

00:26:20.540 can i think also the idea of the courtesan even even for the guy who decides to cheat on his wife

00:26:28.840 or whatever right if you contextualize the person you're cheating with as a courtesan they are

00:26:33.700 always less useful to you than the wife you're less likely to imagine that they could become a

00:26:37.920 wife because they are not a wife they are only there for your pleasure they are a human oni

00:26:42.720 hole they are not actually a thing of value and i mean i've always seen cheating as like a sign of

00:26:49.220 extreme existential doubt and not really necessarily what i mean is if you look

00:26:55.700 historically it's very rare for people to leave their wives for their courtesans that just doesn't

00:27:00.780 happen and but today it happens all the time where people get confused and using clearer terminology

00:27:07.440 can prevent that i suppose yeah also by the way side note data we're getting now we've got 47

00:27:17.700 users on our fab in the last 30 minutes we've got so it's like you know current users and i turned

00:27:23.960 on the gender thing which unfortunately i didn't realize how much it sucked on google for 97.53

00:27:29.980 we can't tell what the gender was but for the ones we can't tell what the gender was 1.36 of

00:27:36.580 them were males and 1.1 percent of them are females so the male to female ratio is about

00:27:40.540 equal that's good okay and the time on site is about equal to for males it's a bit over an hour

00:27:46.560 an hour and one minute and for females it's 57 minutes and 50 seconds okay oh favorable so women

00:27:53.440 use our site too and i cleaned up all the the scoogey like naked pics and stuff that people

00:27:59.380 had in the top for images and scoogey is a good word thank you for using it and i've been preparing

00:28:05.520 for battle yes one does as one does gotta take out the the bad guys before they get to me i just

00:28:13.440 come like this and i'm like i'm just moving the sword like this if it hits you it's your fault

00:28:17.260 that's what i say on a battlefield just go like this yeah is that your move that's your go-to

00:28:22.760 yeah the waggle the guy comes out swaying like i'm just moving in a straight line if i punch you

00:28:30.620 it's your own fault on my way i'm gonna be doing this if you get hit it's your own fault okay then

00:28:43.300 i'm gonna start kicking air like this oh god well yeah i like this concept i i think people need to

00:28:52.920 think really carefully about what they're in it to do i was horrified when at one point joining a

00:28:59.700 parenting, a virtual parenting group comprised of very high profile people who just described

00:29:07.360 parenting as like, well, it's just one of those things you do in life. And I'm like, oh my God,

00:29:12.000 like the number of people who just get married. Cause it's like, well, you know, like I was

00:29:16.460 dating, it's like musical chairs, you know, I was dating them and like, I hit my thirties.

00:29:20.420 So then I proposed like, what are you doing? This is, this is so weird that people wouldn't

00:29:26.640 take things like marriage and having kids extremely seriously and understand exactly

00:29:32.580 why they're doing it and if the answer is well i don't know it seemed like a good idea at the time

00:29:38.920 i mean i respect it i guess like i i agree that people overthink things way too much but also

00:29:47.100 yikes that level of npc well that level of npc i think is leading to the highest birth rate that

00:29:55.280 we have right now i mean these are the people who are going to replace the overthinkers simone

00:29:59.720 yeah thinkers who want to have kids are a small group u.s birth rates updated again at new record

00:30:05.780 lows the the biggest drop in terms of age brackets of course was teen births they saw a seven percent

00:30:12.880 drop and the slight i think it's like don't be a pussy in births for people in their 20s and then

00:30:19.400 a slight increase for people in their 30s so absolutely people are overthinking it or trying

00:30:24.960 to be prepared I don't think though that that you need to be a certain age to be capable of

00:30:33.220 understanding why you're doing things I mean I think you need to understand just who you are

00:30:38.160 and what you're about and Malcolm you knew who you were and what you were about oh yeah I told

00:30:41.340 you exactly what I was about and you're like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that makes sense and I mean

00:30:45.580 like from earlier writings of yours that I've seen and you know stories you've told I don't think

00:30:49.740 you've changed all that much in what you've done and ultimately i haven't either it just happens to

00:30:55.420 be that my personality manifests very differently given depending on the resources that i'm given

00:31:01.200 and i think women are a lot like that in general that they're they're phenotypal very significantly

00:31:07.440 depending on the environment as it were anyway i love you very much love you too and have a

00:31:13.520 spectacular day. You too. And you guys, no courtesans, unless it's a side check and then

00:31:20.140 whatever. I don't, I don't know. I think, I think people should, if you want to be a courtesan,

00:31:26.980 pursue it professionally. Some people do this very successfully. Give the guy pleasure. Make

00:31:32.280 sure you're actually doing your job. Sugar baby websites are a very big thing. People absolutely

00:31:37.540 make careers out of it. They're, they're clear about what it is. I think that framing also

00:31:42.200 helps guys know what they're really looking for because so often you know i see guys when they

00:31:47.720 say well this is what i'm looking for in like a wife and it's like a list of kinks or something

00:31:51.540 and it's like you're looking for a courtesan yeah you're not you're not looking for a wife

00:31:55.680 wives aren't that absolutely true people need to understand the difference and also like not

00:32:02.100 everyone can afford a courtesan love you simone oh i'm sorry i'm being so tired at this time of

00:32:08.460 day just too much work yeah you gotta sleep more ciao ciao kitty so how are things going today

00:32:17.880 simone i think both you and i have had a day today where we're like i'm out of it yeah we're

00:32:25.180 on this thing and then and then it just doesn't it doesn't happen and for you it was development of

00:32:32.060 the the vtuber setup i mean i'm making progress i've gotten through some of the hardest parts

00:32:38.520 that i didn't think i would find a solution for yeah but i'm still on some of the second

00:32:43.220 hardest parts that i didn't think i'd find a solution for so just you know with rfab that

00:32:48.320 does like ai chatbots ai adventure like choose your own adventure stories ai agents ai vibe

00:32:53.860 coding ai fact checking fact checking yeah we've got a super search that like outputs an ai answer

00:33:00.140 and then has other AIs run against it to check it.

00:33:03.460 So you can see from like a number of AIs,

00:33:05.400 like basically Holy Sin of Gentiles.

00:33:07.220 Right now I'm working on trying to make

00:33:08.520 a VTuber creation studio.

00:33:10.220 Bruto and I are both doing different techniques to do it.

00:33:13.060 So there'll literally be two of them

00:33:14.840 that'll operate in different ways,

00:33:16.360 depending on what you're looking for.

00:33:17.860 But I'm having trouble rooming just the hair.

00:33:19.760 Like, because with everything else,

00:33:21.120 I can put like a square around the eye

00:33:22.560 and then do a remover around that

00:33:24.160 or a square around the nose

00:33:25.120 and then do a remover around that.

00:33:27.000 But the hair is really hard.

00:33:28.220 So I've got to figure out how to get the hair off.

00:33:29.340 And then I've got to figure out

00:33:29.980 how to draw a blank face that is like pixel perfect to whatever i'm taking away yeah um

00:33:35.960 which is very difficult right um and so uh that's what i'm working on i think i think i'll get it

00:33:42.420 through tomorrow like it looks like we're gonna get to the other side of this and once i get to

00:33:46.540 the other side of this it'll be very cool because any of you guys want like any any ai that like

00:33:52.180 makes a drawing for you you'll be able to rig that to a vtuber avatar and uh maybe i mean vtubers

00:33:58.860 are all cool now or like we're getting the whole like vtuber wave right now which i think is pretty

00:34:03.020 cool in the vtuber renaissance yeah the vtuber renaissance um and uh very very excited about

00:34:10.280 that um i i even thought like after i did the leaflet streams because those go so well right

00:34:15.680 like i've looked at them like oh my god i can talk for 10 hours straight people should have

00:34:18.940 known that when they see that we're not able to cut our videos down to like 20 minutes like

00:34:23.240 normal i mean you can talk with leaflet for because she's so awesome i you know i don't

00:34:27.480 know if that would work with just anyone it'd work with you yeah but i mean you know we're freaking

00:34:32.880 married so there's that a lot of people are like you're married to someone you run out of things

00:34:36.680 to talk about but like not us not us man us and for dinner tonight we're going to use that wild

00:34:43.840 mushroom soup that you made that was so creamy and delicious and have that with steak which i

00:34:49.800 think is going to be absolutely spectacular i'm really looking forward to it i might not eat all

00:34:54.120 the steak so we can have a bit more steak left over cut that up and then make some noodles wizard

00:34:57.960 or something i think would be a lot of fun so we'll see oh like a like a stir fry it like

00:35:02.920 like a stir fry lo mein with yeah so yeah i'll do the whole thing and then just whenever you don't

00:35:09.180 eat i'll slice and we'll or fried rice we haven't done fried rice in ages i mean it's yeah the

00:35:15.080 problem is with to really do fried rice right you have to get it super super hot and that just

00:35:19.280 requires so much more attention yeah but you know we'll figure this all out we'll figure this all

00:35:26.600 out we shall but it's been so interesting to see the by the way did you see the video i sent you

00:35:31.260 the the leaflet one where so leaflet had done a video on our video and it was taken down because

00:35:37.960 i called our kids affectionately little bastards because they are little bastards and youtube said

00:35:42.400 that that was me harassing a minor even that's even you self-censoring and not calling them

00:35:47.520 little s-h-i-t-s so which is the it's a common term in the backwoods tradition it's what i was

00:35:53.520 called as a kid albion seed listed as a common backwoods term of affection this was you being

00:35:59.060 polite i mean come on guys could i tell fans i'm gonna try to cuss less on the show i'm gonna try

00:36:05.900 not cussing sometimes unless it's good for a joke but yeah we only really cuss when it matters i

00:36:10.740 don't cuss for emphasis but if it's gonna make somebody laugh you know that's a different

00:36:13.980 scenario altogether but anyway so she ends up getting banned for this and then rev says desu

00:36:18.700 ends up covering her getting banned for this and then in her video covering rev says desu video

00:36:26.020 about her getting banned for our show she starts talking about how one of her friends was giving

00:36:32.020 her advice but she couldn't say what friend and then midway into the episode she's just like

00:36:36.040 actually i don't think she'd care it was simone yeah i don't care and then immediately afterwards

00:36:40.320 simone comes up because that's what ref said and now as mcgold has covered this accident dms are

00:36:45.740 all bots too practically no communication here happens i mean if she's not able listen okay

00:36:50.720 if she's not able to get it fixed in like i don't know uh a week or something like that

00:36:57.160 uh she can reach out to me i follow her she follows me and i can help her get it resolved

00:37:03.580 or at least make sure that the decision was made by a human and not a random person i i can do that

00:37:10.920 but hopefully it can get resolved on its own because this is this is outrageous it's not the

00:37:16.940 way it should be and it feels like we're part of this like huge online creator like ecosystem now

00:37:22.260 like we're we're inching our way into that conservative the the the sphere the the

00:37:27.840 intellectual talking sphere if rev says desu is talking about us now and asmigold has talked

00:37:32.920 about us and so like we just got a inch in oh that one clip yeah yeah one click but that's how

00:37:39.020 it starts like with leaflet there's still the famous who the f is leaflet the first time you

00:37:43.200 heard about her a year later he's you know he he's very familiar with her same with nugs in

00:37:48.560 right like same with rev says desu who clearly knows leaflet now but didn't before right

00:37:53.340 so i should reach back out to side scrollers and do more stuff with him the reason we stopped

00:37:59.940 doing stuff with them is he's like well you guys aren't that into the gamer space and it's like

00:38:03.240 well now i own a game company so i guess we are so yeah that's true or maybe i wasn't entertaining

00:38:09.760 and twinkle and you're in bruno's eyes when you were first on side scrollers yeah now it's really

00:38:16.220 solid like like when i'm on leaflet stream people will drop in and be like our our fab is so much

00:38:21.080 fun i love your your website like now there's people who are fans of our website more than our

00:38:25.100 show which is surprising to me i didn't i didn't think we'd get to this point delightful delightful

00:38:31.080 yeah and it's constantly being improved for people that get on and they're like oh the card game broke

00:38:35.540 this way and it's like well let us know and we'll try to fix it right but right now i'm rushing with

00:38:40.200 the vtuber stuff because i'm really excited about that anyway i will get started here

00:38:44.780 other side of this tree over here

00:38:49.540 octavia why don't you go as well we're looking for mushrooms right

00:38:52.920 I will kill it by my master.

00:38:59.920 Maybe up here.

Based Camp - May 07, 2026

Courtesans & Concubines： Why We Need Them Back

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