Based Camp - September 08, 2023CPS Was Called On Us!
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the time we got a call from CPS about the way we raise our kids, and why it's a good thing we don't buy new clothes for them. We also talk about how progressive parents have no idea what they're doing with their kids and how they should raise them.
Transcript
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When you have an active genocide campaign ongoing, where the actual goal is you guys
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are doing something different, let's erase that.
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Kids are not safe if they're not raised within our cultural group.
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And a lot of people don't really know this is going on, or really don't know how aggressively
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And even with us, sometimes I'm like, I might be overstating things.
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They're like, oh, what I'm doing is good because the people I'm doing it to are culturally
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That's what every evil group in history has ever thought.
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You, you, the deplorables, when you categorize half your population that way, what's happening
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here is progressives feel they have the right and obviously have the ability to call the
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government saying they are not raising their kids in a style that I, as a progressive
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So Malcolm, we just got back from a lovely vacation with our three kids.
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We had a billion amazing experiences with them.
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One of them, we were making a birthday cake, sort of on a belated celebration for our two-year-old.
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And while we were making this cake, we received a very strange call.
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It was from CPS, for people who aren't from the USS Child Protective Services.
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This is a government service that takes kids away from people when they're like abusing kids
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Now, our initial thought when this happened to us is this must be like the pronatalist version
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We assumed it was like a random hater who just wanted to fuck with us, right?
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But if they did, they hired a private security person or a private detective to follow us
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because a lot of their complaints were actually true to the way we raise our kids, even in
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And so our fans may be like, no, you've aired enough of this publicly that I would have been
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able to guess all of this, but our actual read is we are experiencing what many Americans
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experience today, especially if they hang out with, you know, any sort of, or adjacent
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to any sort of progressive circle that really has no understanding of what it's like to actually
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raise kids, where the rules for how you raise kids and how you should raise kids are being
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written by people who have no experience with child rearing and do not understand what's
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And these rules don't correlate with like well-being, survival, health, like normal things.
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Like these are not, you know, we're not talking about rules like don't beat your children.
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So let's talk about why CPS was called on us, why they were interested in talking to us.
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So reason number one, our kids were wearing used clothing.
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They were like, they are, they're wearing used, gross, tattered clothing.
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There's one, they can only survive one wear before there's food all over it.
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So keep in mind, like a lot of the, one, we do receive donated clothes and love it.
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And two, I do when I buy new, new clothes, when I buy clothes for our kids, it is like
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used stuff on eBay, but it's used Ralph Lauren.
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But it's an accusation that you're defending yourself.
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I think every sane person who hears this is like, obviously kids grow fast.
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I mean, from an environmental standpoint, from a financial standpoint, you're like, you're
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kind of crazy if you're buying new clothes for your kids.
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But I guess people might think, I don't know, because we're like wealthy that we just buy
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It's antithetical to everything our ideology stands for.
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You have to, I can understand somebody who has never interacted with kids, never had to
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Cause right now our kids are in daycare being like, oh, it's weird how often these kids are
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But if you have kids, especially a number of kids in daycare, because if any of them get
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If any kid in daycare has something, all of them are licking everything, crawling on
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Just to reiterate, we have, we have three children in three different classrooms at a daycare.
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That means that if anyone gets something hand, foot and mouth disease, you know, the,
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the, the stomach bug, like anything, a cold, everyone in our household is very likely
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to get it because that kid is very likely to bring it back.
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No, but this is a normal part of being a parent and not a sign of the sign of having a lot
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But again, it shows that the people who are making these rules, even the people within
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CPS who are responding to this apparently don't know like the realities of raising even
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Three is not like that large of a family right now, you know?
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I mean, actually like I could, I could see there being a higher correlation between never
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being sick and being in a genuinely abusive household, because that is a household
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that's more likely to isolate children and not allow them to go to school or go out
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So the next, the next one was that our kids sleep alone.
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I mean, there are two cameras in the room and there are two cameras in the room.
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We live in a house from the 1700s so we can hear everything they're saying in the room
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This is a normal thing that parents do after a certain age.
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Simone and I sleep in different rooms because, you know, that probably doesn't surprise everyone.
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We sometimes indulge and sleep in the same bed, but I hate waking her up early and then
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the kid wakes up and then it scurs everything up.
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You know, it's, it's not a good system when you always have a toddler around, which it
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Cause as I mentioned at the end of one of the videos, we just got our seven week, you're
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But hopefully when this goes live, we'll recently got the eight week, you're still pregnant
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mark, which will bring us in like 0.5% chance that it doesn't make it.
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Anyways, we'll follow up the statistics, but we're only a 4% chance it doesn't make it now
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Anyway, so hopefully larger soon, but the point being is that this is a normal thing.
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And this person was like, apparently CPS had heard sometimes the children start crying and
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And I'm like, yeah, that's like a normal child rearing thing.
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You know, sleep training is controversial, but in Emily Oster's book on this phase of childhood,
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the sleep training phase in her chapter on sleep training there, her general conclusion
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That is to say, letting your kid cry it out for a little bit.
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Now, of course the, the, the way that we do it and the way that it's advised is if you
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hear them cry for like longer than 10 minutes, you go, you comfort them, then you leave the
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And that's what we do, but usually they don't cry for longer than 10 minutes.
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So anyway, that generally taking that approach and not letting them basically keep you up all
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night and keep themselves up all night leads to better sleep, more sleep for the children,
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which is crucial for development and also less stressed parents.
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Well, they're trying to create a coddled generation.
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You know, the nanny state needs little baby adults.
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We were walking around target this morning because target walks are really fun.
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And the just like, there were four aisles for child and adult sippy cups.
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I know I'm imagining adults in like these, you know, adult diapers everywhere and little
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I mean, I understand why, why these extremists are so sad about the way we're raising our kids
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because they probably do cry themselves to sleep every night.
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Fall asleep to the sounds of their own screams.
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That's, that's the life, the nightmare they've created for themselves.
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So the, the final attack point, you might think it's, they let their kids interact with barnyard
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No, it was actually that we have our kids play outside.
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You guys have seen videos of the kitchen a lot.
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It's got views to our yard, but we let them play outside without us being there.
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And we locked the gates with, with coded lock that said that the kids can't open.
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But yeah, we let our kids play outside without us also outside.
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The, what are you trying to do to a generation?
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So the reason I bring all of this up is because I had read stories about CPS being called on
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families for letting their kid walk to school or one family was, they let their, you know,
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14 year old watch their eight year old, you know, and then the CPS was called on them
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and they, they actually went to jail for a while, you know?
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So like actual bad things can come of this, right?
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And it is one of the things where you're like, oh my God, like this is not like a conservative
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And it doesn't appear to have been a SWAT thing.
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It appears to have been like a neighbor or something had actual concerns that our kids
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were outside playing without us there, you know, with a, with a dog, with a, a perfect
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And the thing about the kids sleeping alone at night, that also really freaks me out because
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So that really only could have been a neighbor, a stalker or a private investigator.
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And it's, I mean, I don't want to say that child protective services groups are at all
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I think, so the problem is they're doing really important work and I'm like so in support
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And, and keep in mind, this woman didn't just feel like, I think that they probably do
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So maybe, but let's, let's, maybe we can get into this.
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I mean, so what this woman also said was like, do you need assistance with clothing?
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And maybe, you know, if we were actually in a really dire situation and actually if our
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kids were in clothing that was really uncomfortable, that didn't fit them, you know, if we were
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actually resource scarce, that could have been a very welcome call.
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You know, they offered diapers and, and, you know, we through other businesses have worked
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with state agencies that are like their local child protective services.
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We know how much effort they put into, you know, keeping kids safe and everything and how
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I think the larger issue is that the societal standards that are separating children from
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their parents are not that well correlated to child wellbeing, that, that parents are losing
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their kids, not because their kids are in any real danger, but because they are deviating
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from societal norms, which are frankly, very unsustainable financially, mentally, logistically,
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et cetera, like super unsustainable for parents.
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We often use the term cultural genocide, right?
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And I, and I use the analogy of the Canadian residential school system where kids were taken
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from native American families and put into these boarding schools so that they could be
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And people often are like, you are overreaching.
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What is happening here with child protective services?
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It is the dominant cultural group saying you are not raising kids the way that we approve
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Therefore we are taking your kids from you, even though there'll be in a materially worse
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situation, like a less resources, everything like that, they will be in the correct, the
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And something I always point out here is, you know, if you, if you look at the analogy of
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the Canadian residential school system, people are like a lot of your views on the world sound
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So why are you, you antagonistic to this happening?
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And this is a bit like some, but some European person being like, what you all are doing with
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this residential school system is straight evil.
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And somebody being like, but you're a European, right?
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Why do you care that these people are having their cultures systematically eradicated?
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They're obviously bad people because they're different from you.
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People who are different from us aren't automatically bad.
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And when you have an active genocide campaign ongoing, where the actual goal is you guys
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Kids are not safe if they're not raised within our cultural group.
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And a lot of people don't really know this is going on or really don't know how aggressively
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And even with us, sometimes I'm like, I might be overstating things.
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What was interesting, too, is we were with friends when this happened, too.
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And after the call, they came in and saw that we were looking really weird and like, what
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And they were like, oh, you know, when I had a pet dog, the animal version of CPS was
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And I do feel like that's kind of indicative of a larger amount of social policing over
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people's behavior, which is really interesting.
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Individuals feeling that they have the right to assert their culture on other individuals
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And it's important that you call out what it is so people recognize what's happening
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It is a Catholic is not going to call the police on their neighbors saying they're not
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A Hasidic Jew is not going to call the police on their neighbors saying they're not raising
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What is happening here, whether it's dogs or kids, is progressives feel they have the right
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and obviously have the ability to call the government.
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So people who are part of this urban monoculture, this dominant culture in our society now, saying
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they are not raising their kids in a style that I, as a progressive, approve of.
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Because I promise you, these calls did not come from a conservative.
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Nobody who's actually raised kids and is part of intergenerationally viable culture is saying
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You know, anyone who's been around kids knows that's really normal.
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So what this is is a person of this dominant cultural group that one, both feels they have
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the right to attempt to erase another cultural group and actually has the societal tools to
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the, the level that those two tools react to their pushing the button, get these people
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And, and, and this is actually happening to people.
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And this is the thing, you know, like where we mentioned these people going to jail and
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I'll post studies here for like insane stuff, right?
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This is something that's actually happening in this country.
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And I think a lot of people are like, well, I, as a progressive don't approve of
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these things and it's fine that many Nazis did not approve of the Holocaust.
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It doesn't mean that it's not happening and that we as a country, whether it's progressives
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or conservatives need to address that there is a faction within our country that believes
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they have a mandate for genocide, cultural genocide, and has the tools to enact it.
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I'm even thinking about one progressive YouTuber whose channel I really like.
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She's called plenty Fridays and I really enjoy her content, but seeing how she reacts to
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like, what she'll do is she'll do commentary on various conservative figures, like the girl
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defined girls and talk about like their lifestyle and how they're choosing to do things.
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And she does often comment on how they regard pets, like how they take care of pets and how
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Like she, she will criticize, for example, a couple for fostering a baby and then like
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kind of framing it as though they expect to adopt the baby and instead of let the baby go
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back to like their family or try to get the baby back to the family.
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Or at one point she criticized a family for shooting a dog that had been run over by a car to
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basically euthanize it on the spot because it was dying in an intense pain instead of attempting
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to move it and drive it to a, an animal hospital and see if they could revive it.
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Even though this dog was probably pretty far gone.
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So, so, I mean, and then think about how sick what's going on here, right?
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Many cultural groups, I, I, I, many same cultural groups would be like, if an animal's
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If you're caring for a kid, it's normal to form an attachment to the kid and want to give that
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This is somebody who, who doesn't care for kids, who hasn't adopted kids.
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And that's one of the things, you know, when we're talking, she doesn't have pets to be
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But, but when you're talking, you know, with antinatalists and they're like, you should
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If you, if you have done this horrible thing of bringing them into the world and you're like,
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And they're like, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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What I mean is I want to better police the people who have kids.
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I don't actually believe anything I'm saying in a persistent format.
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I'm not about reducing suffering in like a, a way that would cause me to have to hold on.
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What's really going on is they would never have those kids in the first place.
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And they strongly believe, you know, if you have kids, if you have pets, you need to,
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to, you know, raise them or have them in this particular way.
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And I personally never will have the funds or the resources or the mental health level
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that will permit me to raise kids in the right way.
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And therefore I'm being responsible and not doing it.
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Whereas these monsters are not only having kids and raising them suboptimal,
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And that makes them monsters because they're, they're creating.
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A lot of cultural traditions would tell other cultural traditions.
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Like you're acting like this is a normal thing to get the state involved or to get
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Let's culturally pressure them to engage with kids our way.
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That is, that is the distillation of human evil.
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And anyone who is incapable of seeing that is incapable of seeing why we're so fired up
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And, and, and why, you know, you as somebody who, who I think genuinely, you know, you do
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You still believe in the value system that the progressives claim to be fighting for.
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But the moment you're out of the cult, you see how much they are acting like the purest
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Well, and I also see that the outcomes of progressive culture for youth and for pets,
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So pets now are on record levels of antidepressants and attention meds.
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And these are the pets that are getting like refrigerated meat for their dog food.
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Like this, you know, like I'm, I'm impressed by pet products.
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Like pets have it awesome, but they're, they're deeply unhappy.
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They are not, you know, they're not outside playing.
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But they don't have it awesome because here's what's happening.
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You know, you want to talk about talking about something.
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So we're going to talk broadly about the, the average progressive pet.
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This is somebody in a city who has a pet who has no business being indoors nearly 24 seven.
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So they're not actually walking the pets the way they should.
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You know, you can trust this with our dog, right?
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Goes out, plays in the, in the field, plays with the chickens, plays with the kids.
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You know, this is what dogs were bred to enjoy.
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They're bred to enjoy working and being outside and engaging with a family, not an individual.
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I would never even think to police them, but I am saying objectively, there's a reason all
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So pets are at record levels of apparent health issues and mental health issues.
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And also it looks like youth right now is at record levels of mental health issues.
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And so that also makes me question this, this desired hegemony of culture is also kind of
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Like, it'd be one thing if I like genuinely believed that this was going to cause more
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human flourishing and less suffering, which is what I believed when I was growing up, that
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this kind of culture is just, it's going to create the Star Trek universe where, you
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So when we talk about different ways of culturally relating to same-sex individuals, you know,
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we talk about conservative cultures have a bunch of different ways of doing this.
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And progressive culture has this one way of doing it.
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They're like, yes, but our way is the way that we should treat, teach kids.
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It's the way we should teach everyone because it leads to lower suicide rates and lower depression
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And then it's like, yeah, except progressives more broadly have higher suicide rates.
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Depressed progressives have higher suicide rates and progressives have higher suicide rates.
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And so, well, if that's true, then shouldn't we just raise everyone in a conservative culture
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because they have lower suicide rates and lower depression rates.
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And it's one of these, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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These statistics don't matter when they make other cultural groups look good.
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They only matter when they make our cultural group look good.
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They only matter when they justify our actions that if anyone else was doing them, we would
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So I really hear what you're saying, and it is horrifying for me how many individuals in
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our society today are able to justify an action by saying, oh, this lowers the amount of suffering
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And yet you can just point out from simple statistics that since you started collecting
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data, conservatives have always been happier than progressives.
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And it's because these conservative traditions apparently work better.
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And we're not like super, like we have this weird tradition that's not being collected for
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We're sort of outside people being like, hey, maybe stop the genocide thing that you guys are
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We are people, both of us, who, you know, when I was in high school, I protected, this is
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I regularly inserted myself into physical fights to protect gay kids.
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We are what progressives would think of as, you know, progressives from a generation ago,
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But looking at society, looking at the direction of gone, it's now clear who's punching down,
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It's now clear who has no power in our society.
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It's now clear who is doing like literally the most unthinkable things a human being can
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It's, I guess it's like very hard to believe that these things are happening and then they
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So, and I, my, my guess is that, again, this came from someone who was genuinely well-intentioned
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and who genuinely thought that our children were at risk, but really it's, it's very much
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Where mental, mental health disorders are more a reflection of where society is and not so
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much a reflection of whether someone's thriving or not.
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And I think maybe this means that, for example, many CPS calls and like pet safety calls, whatever
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that department is, are really more about societal norms than they are about actual human
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She dropped something like everyone should know what we're talking about because we've
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It's used for diagnosing psychiatric conditions and psychological conditions.
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It used to mention things like in the seventies, like same-sex attraction was considered a
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psychological issue and, and it now no longer says that.
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If you look at what they're looking at changing today, they're looking at taking out things
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Cause you're like, okay, this is like a mainstream sexual thing now.
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These, these things change just important to point that out.
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I think when people are talking about child rearing, they're not talking about like acceptable
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They're talking about imposing culture on other people.
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And I think that, that it's, it's so easy to understate how insidious it is whenever somebody
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says that they have the right to raise somebody else's kids or the state has the right to raise
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The state should take your kids from you and be raising them because I disagree with your
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And, and again, this is one of those things where like I've talked, you know, in other episodes,
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I think it's one of those things where you need to sort of shape people and wake them
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out of it because they don't have the words for what they're doing.
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They don't have, they, they, they're like, oh, what I'm doing is good because the people
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I'm doing it to are culturally backwards and bad.
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That's what every evil group in history has ever thought.
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You, you, you, the deplorables, when you categorize half your population that way, you, you are,
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and they're like, well, I don't think half of them.
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But your leaders think half of them are deplorable.
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And when you allow this to happen, it doesn't matter if you disagree with the evil thing your
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If they are able to get into power, if you do not get out there and start protesting your
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own organizations and your own centers of hate, this continues and spirals out of control.
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And in history, it has only ever led to one place.
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The problem this time is it's probably going to lead in a very different place.
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And because the group that is the most persecuted right now, which is the conservative group in
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I'm talking about the various conservative cultural groups.
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Because when you go to a family and you say, I'm going to take your kids, that's one of
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That's one of the few things where something can really get sparked.
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And that's where things are going increasingly and increasingly in our society.
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And as the people who are still having kids make up a bigger faction and faction of society,
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which they will 50, 100 years from now, and as the group that primarily sustains itself
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because they don't have kids by taking other people's kids needs to become more aggressive
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to continue that because other groups, you know, develop immunities for this, the iterations
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of their cultural traditions that weren't good at defending against this end up dying out.
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It probably is going to be the case that Child Protective Services gets called on us several
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And it's better for us to get to know them now rather than later, because then at least
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they'll understand that people are just going to call them on us a lot.
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And I don't want them to waste their resources.
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I think they're doing, you know, really helpful work.
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I really worry about kids who don't have enough food, don't have enough clothing, don't have
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So better that they know us now and understand that we're okay and we don't need help and
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that our children are not, are not wearing rags.
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It's just Ralph Lauren, the horror, Simone, the definition of stealth.
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To put your kids in a used Ralph, you know, another child wore that and probably got their
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They're, they're used clothing and they're, they're outdoor air.
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Why don't we have a handler for every kid we have constantly looking over them?
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Well, what I am really grateful for is what a great dad you are.
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Our kids adore you and love you and admire you and copy you.
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It's, I love having pocket Malcolm's all over the house.
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Even if some people think that you are a true monster as a parent and that I am the definition
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And everyone can see this from the videos you take.
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I love these ones that we do after these videos.
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And, you know, when we're only talking about PC stuff, well, not PC, but, but just non,
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you know, I don't like attaching my kids to anything that's salacious.
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And so they'll, they'll probably be after this one.
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And I'm excited for you guys to get another peek into the spectacular fantasy that Simone has