Based Camp - Curtis Yarvin： How Communists Created the Modern Democratic Movement

00:00:00.000 Stanley Levison, leaves the Communist Party formally.

00:00:03.440 He founds the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which is Martin Luther King's

00:00:06.760 organization.

00:00:07.660 He recruits King.

00:00:08.680 He writes King's speeches.

00:00:10.220 He manages King's organization and basically starts the civil rights movement.

00:00:15.700 It is just a rebranding of the Communist Party USA.

00:00:20.920 If you're graphing the social networks of the CPUSA, you will always find these like

00:00:25.680 hereditary aristocrats on top.

00:00:28.480 Jessica Mitford said.

00:00:29.180 She's really the social queen of American communism.

00:00:32.380 She marries this guy named Bob Truehoff and runs labor law firm.

00:00:37.140 So when Hillary Clinton graduates from Yale Law School, where did she go to work first? 1.00

00:00:42.340 Oh, no.

00:00:42.780 And it's like Barack Obama's connection to Bill Ayers.

00:00:45.920 It's just like, yeah, let's talk about how many degrees of separation connect Vice President

00:00:51.020 Kamala Harris to Jim Jones.

00:00:53.100 Jim Jones is. 0.61

00:00:53.740 He's the guy who killed all those people in South America. 0.99

00:00:55.980 Jonestown.

00:00:56.320 And we also are not told that Jim Jones was such a huge booster of the Soviet Union.

00:01:01.460 The letter that Harvey Milk wrote to Jimmy Carter, defending Jim Jones' right to take this

00:01:08.900 child who was claimed by his mother from his father and taken to Jonestown, who later dies

00:01:15.320 at Jonestown.

00:01:16.400 Oh, yeah.

00:01:17.620 Oh, yeah.

00:01:18.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:18.520 Harvey Milk was such a monstrous character. 0.94

00:01:20.400 I think a lot of people have realized his boyfriend who he raped and then, you know, killed himself.

00:01:25.400 Would you like to know more?

00:01:26.740 I tried.

00:01:27.540 I really tried to find a good place to intro the script here.

00:01:31.900 But the stuff said at the beginning keeps getting referenced later on.

00:01:35.460 So you are going to get a stream of Curtis Yarvin thought in this.

00:01:41.000 And it is a fantastic episode.

00:01:42.740 I think one of our better episodes just from an entertainment and informational perspective.

00:01:46.680 If you don't know who Curtis Yarvin is, he's probably one of the most famous living political

00:01:51.280 thinkers.

00:01:52.180 You might also know him as Munchess Moebug. 0.96

00:01:54.040 He came up with the idea of the cathedral.

00:01:56.940 He founded Erbit.

00:01:58.240 And he's also a fervent monarchist.

00:02:01.020 With the assistance of Eleven Labs, you can actually make me say things that I didn't,

00:02:07.020 which opens up a really large new set of possibilities.

00:02:12.060 I need to do that.

00:02:13.120 Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.

00:02:16.620 You can, you can just catch in things and sound almost like the person.

00:02:20.620 You know, the results is, this is just, it's a useful use of AI.

00:02:25.140 You just make them say what they should have said, you know, cut out those, those Tourette's 1.00

00:02:30.300 moments, all those N-words, you know, and...

00:02:33.460 No, I'm adding all of those.

00:02:35.360 That's the point, right?

00:02:36.840 We're going to have you talk like a dastie in this entire interview. 1.00

00:02:40.780 Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:02:43.560 Exactly.

00:02:44.120 You do the whole cut. 0.90

00:02:45.360 And then the person is, the poor person is forced to claim, you know, this ridiculous

00:02:49.780 claim that these nice people, you know, edited their N-word into his track. 0.66

00:02:54.560 And it's really, it's just a patently false claim.

00:02:57.400 It's just like, my account was hacked, you know, right?

00:03:00.020 Sure.

00:03:00.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:01.240 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:01.640 You were hacked into the AI.

00:03:03.000 Exactly, the Collinses, you know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:06.580 I'm actually so glad that AI is getting this good, because I, when, when people catch me

00:03:11.700 doing actually, like, horrifying stuff, I'm just going to be like, oh, that was AI.

00:03:15.960 I know, I know.

00:03:16.660 And actually, what people don't understand is that in the long run, it actually is a privacy

00:03:21.640 technology.

00:03:22.280 It creates more privacy, because the result is basically, you know, seeing a video of

00:03:28.520 someone now, in the future, is just going to be treated like you can, you know, it's

00:03:33.200 like someone showing someone a text file and saying they wrote this text file.

00:03:37.040 Exactly.

00:03:37.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:38.240 So, and he's like, oh, maybe they didn't, maybe they didn't, right, you know?

00:03:40.860 So, the baby feasts, I thought that that was, like, our major, like, under the cover thing

00:03:46.520 of It Get Live, that we feasted on babies on the, you know, the black moon.

00:03:50.240 But no, baby feasts, all in.

00:03:52.660 Nobody will believe it.

00:03:53.980 The whole protonatalism thing is just, just because the babies are born doesn't mean you

00:03:59.060 need to raise them.

00:03:59.780 I mean, have you ever seen a zucchini that's full grown?

00:04:02.500 It's disgusting, right?

00:04:03.760 Yeah. 0.87

00:04:03.920 Actually, the zucchinis we buy in stores are baby zucchinis, right? 0.98

00:04:07.060 Yeah.

00:04:07.440 You know, do you know what a white coat is?

00:04:11.540 No.

00:04:12.060 A white coat.

00:04:13.120 It's a baby harp seal.

00:04:14.320 It's a baby harp seal, which is actually in its lanugo, which is the hair.

00:04:20.400 It grows within the womb, and it is beautiful, fluffy, fluffy, fluffy white stuff that works

00:04:27.360 great in a coat.

00:04:29.400 And it only lasts for, like, a couple of weeks.

00:04:30.160 And these are the seals we club, right?

00:04:32.140 Yeah.

00:04:32.860 Well, they used to club.

00:04:33.960 There's, like, a, you know, there's a resistance, apparently, to clubbing them at the moment,

00:04:38.920 because they have these cute melting eyes, and they look up at you, you know, when they're

00:04:43.100 on the ice before you, before you club them with these cute melting eyes, right?

00:04:46.620 You know, and, of course, you know, the men who, I mean, and the men who club them, these

00:04:51.980 are the crudest of men.

00:04:53.020 These are French Canadians. 0.90

00:04:54.000 These are, like, you know, people that even the French would reject, right? 0.67

00:04:57.440 You know, and, and they're clubbing these cute baby animals to death. 1.00

00:05:00.460 Very desensitizing, like, you can't trust a man like this in civilization ever again.

00:05:05.260 You know, they need to be kept out on the ice, you know?

00:05:07.500 And, and so, in any case, you used to be able to buy these fluffy seal skin coats made

00:05:13.760 from baby seal, obviously suitable only for a woman, although, apparently, seal fur is

00:05:18.960 suitable for men as well.

00:05:20.440 So, at some, you know, at some point, you know, when I have actual money, I should try

00:05:25.220 and go and buy an antique.

00:05:26.620 Antique used, used old fur is surprisingly cheap, right?

00:05:30.760 So, maybe you can find, like, white coat baby harp seal, you know, which no one has to

00:05:35.920 be harmed for because it's vintage, right?

00:05:38.380 The seal has already been clubbed, you know, and, and, you know, no one is harmed by this.

00:05:43.800 And it's, and you have this beautiful, like, fluffy coat.

00:05:45.660 I've just given away, yeah, no one wants furs.

00:05:47.700 It's also, like, you smell weird after a while, and it's just not great.

00:05:50.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I'm sure they can do the intro.

00:05:53.300 All right, I, okay, you can use this material.

00:05:56.740 On the seals, you can use the seal material.

00:05:58.320 No, all of this material is going to be used.

00:06:00.100 I'm going to be talking about, it's actually primarily a video podcast.

00:06:02.760 We do a lot of, like, clips and skits.

00:06:05.320 But your hair looks really good.

00:06:06.920 I don't know what you're doing, but.

00:06:08.880 I, I had a supporter, you know, paid for me to get a very expensive haircut in, in New York,

00:06:15.420 and I've since maintained it.

00:06:17.000 So, it's just the right, it's the right look.

00:06:19.600 It's the right design for me.

00:06:20.720 Honestly, like, it looks good and that's good.

00:06:21.400 Yeah.

00:06:21.900 Yeah.

00:06:22.320 Do you want me to play the old hits?

00:06:24.220 Should I talk about Urbit?

00:06:26.040 Should I?

00:06:26.740 No, no, I know exactly what we're going to talk about.

00:06:28.580 I want that whole speech about how Marxism is actually, like, this, how it became the

00:06:35.400 culture of the ultra-affluent in the United States and how it took over that culture.

00:06:41.100 And you, you had this conversation over breakfast and I was just like, this is brilliant.

00:06:44.460 The first thing you have to understand about Marx is that Marx is an English gentleman.

00:06:50.560 Okay.

00:06:51.100 He's born in Germany.

00:06:53.120 He is a Jew. 1.00

00:06:54.100 He is part of the European world of the early 19th century, which is a profoundly Anglophile

00:07:03.780 world.

00:07:04.700 And it is a profoundly Anglophile world, both because English-speaking culture is beautiful

00:07:09.760 and amazing and so many great things have been created under English-speaking culture,

00:07:13.500 but also because of the Battle of Waterloo.

00:07:17.380 Otherwise, we would all be speaking French, right?

00:07:19.680 You know, we thought we beat Hitler so that we would not have to speak this hard language

00:07:24.320 to German.

00:07:24.980 Actually, the defeat of Napoleon was the defeat of the sensitive and portly language of French.

00:07:29.800 So, you know, essentially, you know, the sort of the prehistory of the 20th century is

00:07:36.900 the 19th century.

00:07:38.920 And like, you know, it's really, it's a relatively short amount of time.

00:07:43.620 You may not know.

00:07:44.400 Do you know about the Tylers? 1.00

00:07:46.420 No.

00:07:46.820 So, the, I believe, 13th president, John Tyler, who later, I believe, became a Confederate

00:07:54.300 senator.

00:07:55.580 It used to be two.

00:07:56.480 Now, only one, one of his grandchildren is alive today.

00:08:01.640 Wow.

00:08:02.900 Okay.

00:08:03.320 And?

00:08:03.460 So, you know, this is a guy born in the 18th century who was the 13th president of the

00:08:09.300 U.S.

00:08:10.080 Wow.

00:08:10.440 One of his grandchildren is alive today.

00:08:13.180 Now, that is some serious longitudinal pro-natalism right there.

00:08:17.280 Yeah, for sure.

00:08:18.920 Because it takes a couple of, you know, late in life childbearing experiences.

00:08:23.220 Anyway, so, you know, my point is, this country ain't so old at all, right?

00:08:27.080 And when you look back at kind of the 19th century, which really starts with the American

00:08:33.160 and French revolutions, the rest of the 18th century is a very foreign degree to us, but

00:08:38.920 it sort of comes into focus more for us.

00:08:42.940 And it's easier to explain in modern terms, of course, as it goes into the 19th, which

00:08:48.240 is the area of shit-lib revolution, excuse me, of liberal revolutions.

00:08:51.760 And that's another one of these cases where you edited 11 labs had something to do with

00:08:57.020 that.

00:08:57.260 I didn't say that.

00:08:58.220 You know, and in any case, the, so because of, you know, we can't ignore the role of

00:09:07.460 anglophilia in the French revolution.

00:09:10.800 It's huge.

00:09:12.220 It's absolutely the thing.

00:09:13.580 You have like the Revolution Society in London, which is doing exactly the same thing as like 1.00

00:09:18.860 the Soviet simps in 1930 or the Ukraine simps now, you know, they love that shit. 0.99

00:09:24.200 It never dies. 1.00

00:09:24.960 Right.

00:09:25.740 And hugely romantic because you have this energy of like, it's this telescopic philanthropy

00:09:32.520 that Dickens talks about, where you care more about the people far from you.

00:09:36.520 Remember the heat map, you know, the heat map, the meme of the heat map.

00:09:40.500 It's such a good meme.

00:09:42.540 No, explain this meme.

00:09:44.060 I'm going to find this meme.

00:09:44.920 The heat map is something you see posted on certain areas of Twitter.

00:09:49.880 I think I did a lot of, to popularize it, but it's actually from nature.

00:09:54.460 And it's basically a publication which shows that when you basically compare the level of

00:10:01.220 familial, the level of like concern for others that people have in conservatives, concern for

00:10:08.360 others.

00:10:08.600 Oh, that heat map.

00:10:09.860 Where like liberals like love rocks and like conservatives love their family.

00:10:13.380 More than, they love rocks more than grandma.

00:10:15.920 Right.

00:10:16.180 You know, and of course their love for rocks is an affectation and not real love.

00:10:21.040 Nobody can really love a rock.

00:10:23.240 Right.

00:10:23.720 You know, I guess it's probably easier in some ways for a woman. 1.00

00:10:28.580 Nevermind.

00:10:29.340 But you know, our children are terrifically autistic.

00:10:36.080 You might be surprised how much they love rocks.

00:10:38.900 Yeah.

00:10:39.180 Yeah.

00:10:39.520 Yeah.

00:10:39.840 Yeah.

00:10:40.420 Yeah.

00:10:40.660 The thing I say about my kid loves trains.

00:10:43.860 Yeah.

00:10:44.280 Yeah.

00:10:44.700 The thing is, the thing that I say about my, my almost two year old is that when you give

00:10:49.320 it an object, he hasn't seen before, you always feel like he's observing it to see if it belonged

00:10:54.140 to the previous Dalai Lama.

00:10:55.820 You probably know that vibe, right?

00:11:02.220 You know?

00:11:02.540 Yeah.

00:11:03.000 That's exactly the vibe, but that is a funny way to say it.

00:11:06.880 In any case, we go back to not actually believing in reincarnation.

00:11:11.780 Let's get back to Marx.

00:11:12.840 So the thing is, after, after the Battle of Waterloo, basically, in which is the first

00:11:19.160 point in which England, you know, the, the unipolar order begins with the Battle of Waterloo.

00:11:25.620 Right.

00:11:26.500 And because then England becomes kind of clearly world primus inter pares, at least on the seas.

00:11:33.240 Right.

00:11:34.520 And that creates, you know, because of, you know, there was an Arab, Arab philosopher who's

00:11:40.320 Oh, Osama bin Laden, who said, you know, by nature, when we see a strong horse and a

00:11:47.500 weak horse, we like the strong horse.

00:11:49.940 So basically there's a couple of different ways in which let's call that Osama's rule. 0.93

00:11:55.100 Right.

00:11:55.360 You know, and there's a couple of different ways in which Osama's law really, you know,

00:11:59.860 kind of is relevant to the existence of the, like the shit lib and those like, or original 0.96

00:12:07.180 shit lib that Marx was. 0.87

00:12:08.060 I'm getting to understand how you got so canceled. 0.96

00:12:09.100 And, and, and, and, you know, cause I can speak sensitively about a great Arab philosophers

00:12:15.320 and, you know, the, the, the, that's so in any case, in any case, Marxism.

00:12:21.740 So basically Marxism comes out of this world that Dickens is caricaturing with the telescopic

00:12:30.880 philanthropy, specifically what Dickens is talking about, you know, in his little cameo of Mrs.

00:12:37.120 Jellybee in Bleak House, who cares much more about liberating the natives of Boreal-Bula-Gah, 1.00

00:12:44.340 you know, than her own children in her house, which she leaves uncleaned, is that she's 1.00

00:12:51.200 characterizing a particular piece of kind of shit lib colonialism or missionary colonialism. 0.97

00:12:58.520 As I say, one of my voice is not being faked by 11 labs. 0.99

00:13:02.480 And, and, and this missionary colonialism is what rules the earth today. 0.96

00:13:06.600 Basically, it's the spirit of the United fucking nations, which is also, you know, it's ultimately 0.97

00:13:11.740 a Kantian spirit. 0.97

00:13:12.960 It's like this sort of Europeanization of basically originally British modes of thought that we can

00:13:21.620 trace all the way back to the late 18th century.

00:13:26.720 And so what happens is that sort of Anglophilic thought becomes, you know, deracinated, it becomes

00:13:34.180 separated from its roots, roots in Christianity.

00:13:37.300 And it basically becomes this kind of, but, but it still very much is rooted in, in not just

00:13:43.860 Christianity, but like English mainline Protestantism, dissent or Protestantism is, is sort of its

00:13:50.540 deepest roots, you know, going back to the 17th and even the 16th century.

00:13:56.580 But, you know, it first becomes really visible in this kind of like, in this sort of poisonous

00:14:03.140 spirit of Marx.

00:14:04.340 And I think that Marx's real innovation was to basically kind of take, so if you look at the

00:14:10.640 way the founders write, for example, about political parties, which they call factions,

00:14:14.820 or even the way they use the word democracy, you know, the idea that say, you know, all

00:14:20.820 rationalists, I bet you have a lot of rationalists out there.

00:14:23.240 They all know about Duverger's law, which says that most political systems favor a two-party

00:14:28.700 kind of structure.

00:14:30.080 And if you told the people that wrote the constitution that the US would have a two-party structure

00:14:35.480 for its entire operating period as a constitution, they would basically be like, wow,

00:14:40.640 the constitution has actually been inside its operating engineering envelope for its entire

00:14:45.080 time, because it's basically, you know, it's expecting like questions to actually be solved

00:14:49.820 by like debate among statesmen in the Senate, right?

00:14:53.000 It's like operating in a completely different universe than, you know, than it is today,

00:14:58.660 right?

00:14:58.940 And so there's no debate in the Senate, what the hell, right?

00:15:02.000 You know, the House of Representatives, which is supposed to be the voice of the mob of the 0.66

00:15:06.580 people of the turbulent orators, has a 99%, an 88% incumbency rate.

00:15:11.880 The Senate is 90%. 0.98

00:15:13.060 And plus, it's an insane seniority system that is nowhere mentioned in any fucking constitution, 0.98

00:15:18.180 right? 0.99

00:15:18.460 It was like, it was written down by God, right?

00:15:20.800 Given that around half of the people who watch our show are outside of America, I'm going

00:15:26.020 to need to provide some context here, I think.

00:15:28.460 So the founding fathers of America, when they were building the constitution, one thing that

00:15:31.920 they were very concerned about was that a party system may end up forming in our country.

00:15:37.080 And so they built the constitution to prevent that.

00:15:40.060 Now, if you are familiar with American politics, you'd be like, but doesn't America have a very

00:15:44.080 strong two-party system?

00:15:45.600 And it's, yes, it does.

00:15:46.520 And it had one from almost the very first elections we held.

00:15:50.560 So the American constitution failed within the lifetime of the founding fathers, and it

00:15:57.240 has been operating outside its, meant to operate boundaries for a very, very long time.

00:16:03.880 In addition to that, things like the Senate were supposed to be where smart people would

00:16:08.840 go up and debate and compromise and come up with plans for things.

00:16:13.480 We do not have, like, real debates where people are being swayed by other people's words on the

00:16:20.980 Senate floor anymore.

00:16:21.920 That is not the way the Senate functions.

00:16:23.480 So again, operating outside its parameters.

00:16:26.020 And in our book, The Pragmatist Guide to Governance, or that piece that the Guardian did on our

00:16:31.140 city-state, one, we point this out.

00:16:32.840 But the other thing that we point out is sometimes the form that a thing collapsed into is more

00:16:38.100 stable than the state it was designed to operate within.

00:16:42.280 I am reminded here of a collapsed cathedral where I went to college at St. Andrews, and the

00:16:48.500 cathedral was in its collapsed state much longer than it was ever in its built state.

00:16:52.580 And that's because the forms that things collapse into are often self-reinforcing if the building

00:17:00.180 is still standing for, like, 100, 200 years.

00:17:03.320 And I think that that's sort of what happened with the U.S. government.

00:17:05.700 And so, you know, but I digress.

00:17:08.420 What Marx's innovation was, you know, that he was basically, he kind of looked at the violence

00:17:15.020 and the conflict and the dysfunction that's inherent in these Republican forms of government

00:17:21.180 and said, no, this is not a bug.

00:17:23.580 This is a feature.

00:17:25.300 Rather, it's kind of this, like, class war stage is something we have to go through.

00:17:29.380 And so he's kind of goes from this kind of benevolent telescopic philanthropy to this kind

00:17:37.280 of violent telescopic philanthropy, where he basically, he goes from wanting to civilize

00:17:43.340 the nation, you know, the peoples of Borea Bulaga.

00:17:46.460 Again, this is based on, I'm sorry, I digress.

00:17:48.940 This was based on the Niger expedition.

00:17:50.900 This, that's spelled N-I-G-E-R, Niger, right?

00:17:56.920 Okay, okay.

00:17:57.420 And you know the word Niger, the Niger expedition.

00:18:00.140 Thank you, Eleven Labs, for, you know, fixing that.

00:18:03.580 And the Niger expedition, total failure.

00:18:06.600 They were going to basically civilize the natives of the lower Niger Delta and teach them to grow 0.90

00:18:12.220 cotton in, like, the 1830s, 1840s.

00:18:15.660 I forget the moment.

00:18:16.540 Total disaster. 1.00

00:18:18.120 Ridiculous, you know, cartoon third world shit show. 1.00

00:18:20.900 Of an experience, right? 0.99

00:18:22.360 And so, you know, Marx goes from this sort of benevolent missionary imperialism to this

00:18:29.240 kind of violent missionary imperialism, where you start to see people, like, getting actually

00:18:37.300 excited by these kinds of barbarities that they sponsor and getting excited by the class

00:18:45.400 war that they sponsor. 0.74

00:18:47.140 It's the sort of extremely refined pleasure, which is, so it's sort of, it starts to become

00:18:53.220 this kind of psychopathic thing.

00:18:55.020 You know, if you basically supported Stalin in America in the 30s, right, you basically

00:19:01.120 all, you always had this edge of, like, I'm so much more real for you than you, because

00:19:07.220 I understand the need to kill people and you don't.

00:19:10.800 And, like, I understand that you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.

00:19:15.440 I understand, you know, in the follow-ups to this election cycle is a lot of leftists

00:19:20.800 are like, we need to go back to being a party of the working class.

00:19:25.500 But the working class is trans people, you know, like, I'm like, no. 1.00

00:19:31.960 They were never, they were never, they were never a party of the working class.

00:19:34.840 So the thing is, the idea that go back to is a complete illusion.

00:19:40.020 They were always a party of the aristocrats. 0.99

00:19:43.140 Marx and going all the way back to Marx and his fucking sugar daddy fucking angles, you 0.97

00:19:49.000 know, who, you know, ran a factory and supported this very, you know, profligate, you know, person 0.99

00:19:55.880 in his sterile intellectual career.

00:19:58.840 Marx was a great writer, to be fair, really amazing writer, you know, and the, but like,

00:20:03.920 you know, sort of reaching the barrier to that evil and like saying, no, this thing that

00:20:10.780 you've called evil is actually both inevitable and in its own way good.

00:20:15.840 And of course, Marx would love to play this game where he's like, well, I'm not really

00:20:19.640 saying this is good.

00:20:20.580 I'm not really excited by, you know, the, the, you know, talk of like, you know, gouging 0.97

00:20:26.100 your eyes out and jacking off all of your corpse. 0.99

00:20:28.180 It's just a metaphor, you know, that I'm like saying, you know, and like, like the, you

00:20:34.400 know, he's like the creepy, you know, kid who writes the creepy short stories in the

00:20:38.340 high school, you know, English class, right?

00:20:40.780 You know, and so, so he's doing this shooter vibe.

00:20:44.200 Yeah.

00:20:44.660 School shooter vibes.

00:20:45.500 Right.

00:20:45.720 And so the thing is you have these school shooter vibes that like extend all the way down

00:20:50.000 to like France Fanon, right.

00:20:53.600 Who's just like, you know, wants to kill like colonialists, right.

00:20:57.400 And get some substantial amount of that work done.

00:21:00.760 And, you know, people won't know this other character you named.

00:21:03.860 What is he famous for?

00:21:05.000 Who is France Fanon?

00:21:06.320 France Fanon is, he was supported by the CIA.

00:21:09.800 He was a communist, but I repeat myself.

00:21:13.600 He was, he was an anti-colonialist sort of early, basically woke thinker from the 1950s.

00:21:22.720 This is early sort of Americanism.

00:21:25.500 No, some kind of Europe, you know, international European.

00:21:28.720 And, you know, the funny thing about France Fanon is his name is not spelled F-R-A-N-Z.

00:21:35.520 It's spelled F-R-A-N-T-Z.

00:21:38.820 But it so happens that misspelling it Franz without the T is an error we find in both Barack

00:21:45.600 Obama and Bill Ayers.

00:21:47.020 Or the works credited to both of those authors.

00:21:53.480 So, yeah, France Fanon is like universally, he's an early anti-colonialist thinker.

00:21:57.800 Like he's absolutely completely orthodox. 0.99

00:22:00.020 And he's basically like, you know, kill the colonialist babies and rip them from their 1.00

00:22:04.420 mother's wombs or whatever. 1.00

00:22:05.520 I don't know what he says exactly.

00:22:06.780 But like there's like heavy bloodthirsty energy there.

00:22:09.800 For some examples of exact quotes, we have violence is a cleansing force.

00:22:14.540 It frees the native from his inferiority complex and from his despair and inaction.

00:22:18.620 It makes him fearless and restores his self-respect.

00:22:21.260 For the native, life can only spring again out of the rotting corpse of the settler.

00:22:26.280 At a level of individuals, violence is a cleansing force.

00:22:29.960 He also argued that anyone who was a colonized person could enact any form of violence they

00:22:35.920 wanted against people who he deemed as colonizers.

00:22:39.080 Without any moral repercussions or moral downsides.

00:22:43.440 And Obama is supporting him and Bill Maher is supporting him?

00:22:47.100 Bill Ayers.

00:22:48.300 Ayers. 0.73

00:22:49.100 Bill Ayers.

00:22:49.580 Bill Ayers.

00:22:50.080 Okay, whatever.

00:22:50.920 The Weather Underground guy.

00:22:52.260 The Weather Underground guy.

00:22:53.640 Okay, okay.

00:22:54.200 Obama's mentor guy.

00:22:54.420 According to many reliable, yes, reports, was Obama's mentor and wrote his books.

00:22:59.160 Right.

00:22:59.340 And so we sort of, we see this trace of like this kind of sweet tooth for blood that appears

00:23:07.700 in these people again and again.

00:23:09.440 And it's like they have a sweet tooth for power.

00:23:12.700 At first, they want to be madder.

00:23:14.440 They want to be listened to.

00:23:15.580 They want to have an impact.

00:23:16.600 They want to change the world in a good way.

00:23:18.740 You give them more and more power.

00:23:20.580 They like, their results are worse and worse.

00:23:24.420 And eventually, their kind of sweet tooth for power turns into a real sweet tooth for blood.

00:23:29.420 Right.

00:23:29.980 You know, and the thing is.

00:23:32.040 I want to connect here.

00:23:33.800 Sorry, before you go further, because I want to make sure.

00:23:35.900 This is the only episode where the guest talks more than me.

00:23:38.700 I love this.

00:23:39.540 I'm going to get so much.

00:23:40.440 This is how it should be, Malcolm.

00:23:42.040 This is how it's supposed to be.

00:23:43.880 I, but hold on.

00:23:45.160 I want to make a bridge here.

00:23:46.260 I want you to talk about this because you're doing a very good job of connecting modern political

00:23:50.800 figures with communists of the past, and over this breakfast where you were talking, you

00:23:55.320 did a really good job of connecting Hillary Clinton and Marxism, as well as this, like,

00:24:02.880 actor family in the 50s who were supposed to be Marxists, and then everyone thought they

00:24:06.360 weren't Marxists.

00:24:06.860 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:08.140 I was, so a couple of different things there.

00:24:10.300 So the thing is that, you know, the separation between, like, you know, do you know the biological

00:24:20.220 theory of cladistics?

00:24:21.880 It's like the way you classify.

00:24:23.680 What are cladistics?

00:24:25.760 Cladistics is a concept in evolutionary biology that basically says, here is the only way to

00:24:32.820 do categories in things that are descended in what's broadly called a genetic way, as

00:24:39.520 both genes and languages are.

00:24:42.000 So, for example, in both genes and languages, it is a classification error to have the classifications

00:24:54.120 that are purely based on phylogeny.

00:24:58.180 For example, if you have a category of animal that flies and you call it a bird-bat bug, a

00:25:04.360 bird-bat bug is a false category.

00:25:06.380 Similarly, if you have language, if you have a category that is a negative predicate, things

00:25:15.960 that are not birds, that is also a false category.

00:25:19.280 Actually, if you're really looking at the evolutionary structure, you realize that birds

00:25:24.080 should be grouped with dinosaurs and not with bats.

00:25:26.780 Right.

00:25:27.340 Okay.

00:25:27.740 But any kind of naive thinking makes you confuse them with bats.

00:25:31.700 Now, the thing is, when we're looking at, so that's one way of looking, when we use words

00:25:37.420 like Marxist or liberal or whatever, that's one way of looking at what are the distinctions

00:25:44.400 here.

00:25:45.200 Another way of looking at, say, how do we use these words is saying, okay, let's look at

00:25:51.820 the social graphs.

00:25:53.240 So let's, for example, compare, say, the social graph of Democrats to the social graph of Republicans.

00:26:00.800 In general, what we would see is that Democrats are tolerated at a Republican event, but Republicans

00:26:08.240 are not tolerated at a Democratic event.

00:26:10.840 Yes.

00:26:11.080 Right.

00:26:11.320 Okay.

00:26:11.580 That is an arrow.

00:26:13.860 We would see the same relationship with respect to Republicans and white nationalists.

00:26:20.000 They would love to recruit some mainstream figures from the GOP.

00:26:23.620 They'd love it.

00:26:24.720 You know, let's say, you know, Kevin McCarthy showed up at a Klan rally.

00:26:28.840 He would be accepted.

00:26:30.600 But if David Duke showed up at a GOP meeting, he would not be accepted.

00:26:34.440 They would, let's say, Kevin McCarthy comes, he's in his, like, hood thing, you know, like 0.89

00:26:38.180 it's a big secret, right?

00:26:39.600 You know, former House leader, actually also Grand Wizard, now it's not going to mask himself.

00:26:45.520 He's been working for the organization all along, right?

00:26:49.300 You know, you can see it, right?

00:26:51.080 You know, so the thing is, when we establish that relationship between liberals and communists,

00:26:57.460 what do we see?

00:26:59.520 Do we see any social exclusion there?

00:27:02.340 Maybe some situations in which the communists exclude the liberals.

00:27:06.780 There's no situation where you're, you know, they're just too much of a leftist to come

00:27:11.280 to my party.

00:27:12.000 Your Maoism is totally acceptable. 0.80

00:27:13.800 Do you not realize that Mao killed 30 million people and you're wearing a Mao shirt?

00:27:17.880 No, we can't have you at this party.

00:27:19.540 Okay.

00:27:19.900 That does not happen.

00:27:21.260 Yeah.

00:27:21.800 You can't realize that Shea Guevara was a murderer.

00:27:24.200 You can't come and you're a Shea shirt.

00:27:25.960 I have a Shea shirt.

00:27:26.760 Nobody complains.

00:27:28.020 Okay.

00:27:28.520 So, you know, so what you're seeing is that that concept doesn't exclude, like, that's

00:27:36.560 not a meaningful differentiation.

00:27:39.480 Now, the idea that you can't distinguish between a liberal and a communist, that there's

00:27:44.000 no fundamental distinction, places you to the right of the whole Republican Party since

00:27:49.100 the early 1950s, because, in fact, it even places you to the right of Joe McCarthy, because

00:27:55.220 Joe McCarthy, of course, you know, insisted that you could tell the difference between

00:27:59.300 a liberal and a communist.

00:28:01.180 Joe McCarthy was not out to purge the government of liberals.

00:28:04.380 If he had been, he would have realized that he had a much harder problem and he was not

00:28:08.260 actually solving the real problem that he was supposed to be solving.

00:28:12.320 Let me give you a very specific, here's what you were fishing for.

00:28:15.980 Let me give you a very specific example of this.

00:28:18.720 Did I or did I not talk at this breakfast about the name Stanley Levison?

00:28:24.240 I don't know if you did.

00:28:25.960 I might have mentioned the name Stanley Levison.

00:28:28.900 I don't have a good memory, okay?

00:28:30.580 You're going so fast.

00:28:31.900 I couldn't keep it all down.

00:28:33.260 That's why you need to do it.

00:28:34.660 It's all the drugs you did back in the 60s.

00:28:37.120 You know, in any case, in any case, you know, Stanley Levison.

00:28:40.840 So, you know, one of the things that in order to maintain the separation between communists

00:28:45.840 and liberals, you have to airbrush out of American history, is that America also has

00:28:53.060 a civil rights movement in the 20s and the 30s.

00:28:55.880 And that civil rights movement is unequivocally part of the Communist Party USA, which is at 0.68

00:29:04.440 its high point in those periods.

00:29:06.480 Oh, I remember this.

00:29:07.280 Self-determination in the Black Belt.

00:29:07.880 And we ran all these organizations.

00:29:09.620 Okay, continue.

00:29:10.220 This was really cool.

00:29:10.780 The National Negro Congress, you know.

00:29:13.520 Uh-huh.

00:29:13.860 You know, the thing is, basically, the Highlander.

00:29:16.340 But they were communists?

00:29:18.040 They were communists.

00:29:18.860 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:19.520 They were communists, right.

00:29:20.820 But CPUSA was a huge free country.

00:29:22.120 Well, we actually got receipts.

00:29:23.580 I looked all this up afterwards.

00:29:24.880 Continue.

00:29:26.220 Yes, yes, yes.

00:29:27.360 They were communists, right?

00:29:28.160 So, the thing is, like, after the U.S., you know, the U.S. has a very different relationship

00:29:36.800 with the Soviet Union in the 1930s than in the 1950s, okay?

00:29:41.620 In between is the 1940s, when there are beloved brothers in saving the world from Hitler.

00:29:46.440 Then suddenly, we go to war with them right after the war. 0.99

00:29:49.680 What the fuck? 0.99

00:29:50.520 The Korean War, we're fighting our old friends. 1.00

00:29:53.120 Like, what happened?

00:29:54.060 This is super weird.

00:29:55.120 This is basically what Orwell is talking about in the end of 1984, right?

00:30:00.260 You know, somehow people just, like, retconned this stuff and weren't like, wow, it is super

00:30:04.640 weird that we were allied with Stalin, and now Stalin is Hitler.

00:30:08.200 That's super strange.

00:30:09.280 And you read the newspapers from 1944, and they have to totally change their frickin' line,

00:30:14.240 right?

00:30:14.700 So, you know, let me give you another interesting fact.

00:30:19.420 This is the fact of Stanley Levison.

00:30:21.020 Stanley Levison, who might well have met my grandparents as a Jewish communist in New York

00:30:27.140 in the 40s and 50s.

00:30:28.720 Stanley Levison has, is a person who had two lives.

00:30:33.240 So, and this is all, you know, extremely, well, this is not controversial in the slightest.

00:30:38.580 Okay.

00:30:38.800 This is all things that all historians agree on.

00:30:40.740 They just don't really want you to talk about it.

00:30:42.640 Until 19, he is essentially the CFO of the Communist Party USA.

00:30:46.100 He is running its treasury, you know, and then in 1956, so the party has several steps in

00:30:53.700 its decline.

00:30:54.420 One of them is the Molitor-Ribbentrop Pact.

00:30:57.160 This was the non-aggression pact between the Nazis and the communists, or between Nazi Germany

00:31:03.000 and Communist Soviet Union.

00:31:05.100 Sort of recovers from that not quite as well as it should have.

00:31:09.020 That's 39, of course.

00:31:10.600 Then the start of the Cold War damages it again, and the Korean War damages it, and the final

00:31:17.720 blow that really renders it a totally fringe organization of no real relevance is 56 in

00:31:24.360 the Hungarian Revolution and Khrushchev's secret speech in which he denounces Stalin.

00:31:29.020 Okay.

00:31:29.860 Leaves it really hard to be super faithful after that.

00:31:33.460 Somehow my grandparents managed, and Mandy did not.

00:31:35.920 In any case, in 1956, Stanley Levison decides, time for a new gig.

00:31:42.580 So he leaves the Communist Party formally.

00:31:46.180 It's not like he goes before McCarthy and tells the Senate everything.

00:31:49.640 Oh, no.

00:31:50.280 He does something else.

00:31:51.160 He starts the civil rights movement.

00:31:53.040 To be exact, he founds the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which is Martin Luther

00:31:56.760 King's organization.

00:31:58.220 He recruits King.

00:31:59.500 He recruits King.

00:32:00.720 He writes all of King's speeches.

00:32:02.460 He manages King's organization.

00:32:03.980 He's the speechwriter.

00:32:05.380 Whoa.

00:32:06.360 Something he's making up on the theater.

00:32:08.520 It's not something. 0.99

00:32:09.620 It's like some wild shit I'm making up. 1.00

00:32:11.400 This is just fucking history, man. 1.00

00:32:12.980 So he creates King. 0.99

00:32:14.580 He finds this basically black dude who's gotten a PhD in plagiarism and has a rich, compelling, 0.85

00:32:21.760 preacherly oratorical voice.

00:32:23.820 And basically starts the civil rights movement.

00:32:27.220 And essentially Americans are never told that it is just literally a rebranding of the Communist

00:32:38.160 Party USA.

00:32:38.900 They try to keep, there's other, you know, other leading figures are also leading communists.

00:32:43.800 You know, and, you know, so essentially, you know, a few years after the, what the red

00:32:50.720 stair does is it's essentially like removing your prostate when you have prostate cancer.

00:32:57.820 Okay.

00:32:58.500 Okay.

00:32:59.040 Well, actually, no, it wasn't even removing the prostate.

00:33:01.200 We're just going to like jab it 40 or 50 times with a toothpick.

00:33:04.780 And, you know, what that's going to do is that's going to result in basically spreading cancer

00:33:09.680 cells around your body.

00:33:10.640 And only by detailed DNA examination, can you see that this like pain you feel one day in

00:33:18.880 your shoulder, which is actually a tumor growing in the marrow, that's going to crack your bone

00:33:22.760 open, you know, like you're reading ribs is actually something that came from your prostate.

00:33:28.360 And that's what, that's a result of the red scare, not going far enough.

00:33:31.680 Hold on quick side note, because when I was researching this, the way that you really convinced

00:33:35.040 me is you're like, look up the, the, the web, the Wikipedia article.

00:33:38.440 Yeah, I'll tell it.

00:33:39.300 Look at the, look up the Wikipedia for Stanley Levison.

00:33:43.020 It tells you that he created the Southern Christian leaders, Christian Leadership Council.

00:33:47.500 Look up the Wikipedia page for the Southern Christian Leadership Council.

00:33:51.800 Control F, Stanley Levison.

00:33:54.020 You won't find it.

00:33:55.960 That's like one of your like, do you know when like Truman and the Truman show sees that

00:34:00.460 like there's like the edge of the world is actually like made of like pieces of canvas

00:34:05.360 and they're like stitches in the canvas, right?

00:34:08.240 How do you stitch that one up?

00:34:09.620 How do you stitch that one up?

00:34:10.700 Right?

00:34:10.920 You know, the thing is, so here's another fact that you may not be aware of.

00:34:15.160 Wait, wait, wait.

00:34:15.920 Hold on.

00:34:16.540 Progressive.

00:34:17.800 Yeah.

00:34:19.500 I don't even remember what it was.

00:34:20.300 Here's another.

00:34:21.260 I forgot.

00:34:21.920 No, no.

00:34:22.420 I'm just going to, I'm going to inflict this on you, Malcolm.

00:34:24.380 You're going to, yeah.

00:34:25.400 You're just going to deal with it.

00:34:26.260 So have you ever heard the word progressive?

00:34:28.900 Well, you know, the thing is, what's funny is my, my grandparents who I know only through

00:34:33.340 my parents were actual card carrying members of the Communist Party USA for 50 years.

00:34:38.220 I'm not sure we'd have another cards, but I'm sure they had actual cards.

00:34:41.740 I should clarify that he means this literally.

00:34:44.420 Communists during this period, you had to buy and pay a subscription for membership to

00:34:49.160 the party and you were not considered a member if you were not paying.

00:34:52.640 And it was an incredibly clandestine thing.

00:34:55.260 It was very, very secretive.

00:34:56.880 And you could have your card taken away if you got in trouble with the party.

00:35:00.880 And this could, if you were in some industries like in Hollywood, absolutely destroy your

00:35:04.760 career.

00:35:05.400 The word that they always used, they always used two words.

00:35:09.120 They used the word communist and they used the word progressive.

00:35:11.960 The word progressive was used universally to avoid outing people for any member or supporter

00:35:18.740 of the party.

00:35:19.680 This is the way the word has been used.

00:35:22.640 And has been since about 1930.

00:35:25.340 Before then you have like Teddy Roosevelt, who's actually kind of more of a fascist, right?

00:35:29.040 One thing you can go back and read to convince yourself of this is two wonderful publications.

00:35:34.100 One of them is The New Masses.

00:35:36.320 Okay.

00:35:36.600 Beautifully archived on marxists.org, since we're on a Marx kick today.

00:35:40.960 Beautifully archived on marxists.org.

00:35:44.260 And, and it's basically The New Yorker, but for communists in the 1930s, which is to say

00:35:48.960 The New Yorker basically, but a little more doctrinally orthodox.

00:35:52.640 You know, and the other is The Communist, which is the journal of the communist party

00:35:57.620 you would say.

00:35:58.700 And you can look at those and you can see the way they use the word progressive.

00:36:02.320 And you can see the way that is basically a term for like one of us.

00:36:07.860 Our guy, it's basically means slash our guys.

00:36:10.580 If you've seen the term, it means slash our guys for Marxists when they had to be a little

00:36:17.020 bit in the closet, only a little bit in the thirties.

00:36:19.860 Right.

00:36:20.300 And so essentially as the old left, which is a centralized organization under the CPUSA,

00:36:27.340 becomes the anarchic, metastatic, decentralized, universal new left, which becomes wokeism or

00:36:34.600 as some call it progressivism, like appears.

00:36:37.680 It's like, you can trace this route back to the twenties and thirties.

00:36:42.440 It's literally a hundred years old.

00:36:44.080 Moreover, if you've heard of the practice, if you've heard of the practice, well, let me

00:36:48.560 just finish because I'm just, I'm really trying to blow your minds as hard as I can at this

00:36:52.080 point.

00:36:52.520 Just to finish this practice of canceling people is actually a communist party practice.

00:36:59.740 And so for example, oh yes.

00:37:03.040 So for example, in 1946, 46, I think, Stalin, because the Cold War is starting breaks with

00:37:11.720 the American leadership of the communist party USA, which is under a man, Earl Browder, amazing

00:37:17.620 guy.

00:37:18.040 Earl Browder has this wonderful line, which he says, communism is as American as apple pie,

00:37:22.480 which I believe to be true.

00:37:23.900 In any case, in any case, you know, Browder is running basically the popular front line,

00:37:30.680 which is part of the alliance with FDR.

00:37:32.700 That line says the line has to break.

00:37:34.720 The easiest way to break it is to fire the head of the CPUSA from Moscow.

00:37:38.440 This is highly disturbing to Americans, but nonetheless, it gets done.

00:37:42.420 Browder has to be fired.

00:37:43.540 He has to be accused of something and his people have to be accused of something.

00:37:47.280 And one of his people is this woman named Bella Dodd, who unlike Stanley Levinson actually

00:37:51.820 really does break with the party, goes, you know, to the FBI, et cetera, tells everything

00:37:57.300 she knows, writes a book called School of Darkness, very interesting book.

00:38:01.540 And in School of Darkness...

00:38:02.800 I'll be back soon.

00:38:04.480 By the way, I told you this would be an entertaining topic.

00:38:06.500 Holy smokes.

00:38:08.860 I mean, and I was, I've been wondering why, like, because it's still, like, I couldn't

00:38:14.080 get, like, wait, why, why is Black Lives Matter so Marxist?

00:38:18.780 Why is, like, civil rights communism?

00:38:21.240 Why did they display Black culture first? 0.99

00:38:23.160 You know, one of the things...

00:38:23.780 Yeah, like, this shouldn't be related.

00:38:24.780 And it's like, oh, no, the guy who was the communist guy is then just decided to do,

00:38:29.520 like, civil rights.

00:38:30.540 What?

00:38:31.500 Is that Black culture used to be, if you go back to the 60s, it had half the number of

00:38:37.440 out-of-marriage births as white culture.

00:38:39.780 Right, right.

00:38:40.460 Now 70% of Black kids are born without a... 0.94

00:38:42.460 Right, and it's just because, like, a bunch of communists were like, we now own civil rights.

00:38:46.620 Like, we're going to do civil rights now.

00:38:48.120 And, like, that's...

00:38:48.820 What?

00:38:49.100 That is insane.

00:38:49.340 It is because Martin Luther King sold out the Black culture by acting as a mouse piece 0.59

00:38:54.820 for this guy. 0.95

00:38:56.400 That is so crazy.

00:38:58.220 That's insane.

00:38:59.440 The guy who used to be the treasurer of the American Communist Party.

00:39:03.440 Then just did all this speech writing and, oh, my gosh, that is, like, wow.

00:39:08.160 But it explains so much.

00:39:10.760 It explains so much.

00:39:12.340 By the way, Curtis Yerven, he's not like the other guests we've had on.

00:39:15.580 What a dude.

00:39:16.560 What a dude.

00:39:18.660 Dominating.

00:39:19.540 Curtis Yerven, it's like us setting back and he's, like, having a rant.

00:39:24.320 He did, but they're good rants, Malcolm.

00:39:27.180 They are good rants.

00:39:28.300 I like it.

00:39:29.120 They're a top drawer.

00:39:30.600 Top drawer.

00:39:32.320 But, yeah, I actually...

00:39:33.380 But, like, I just didn't know.

00:39:34.740 I didn't know how deep it was.

00:39:36.020 Like, just how deep the communism goes.

00:39:39.720 It's, like, communism all the way down.

00:39:42.040 What is going on?

00:39:43.200 What is our country?

00:39:43.880 No, you haven't heard his connections with Hillary Clinton yet.

00:39:46.280 It's bad.

00:39:47.060 Oh, I want to hear it.

00:39:48.040 I hope he gets a chord.

00:39:49.200 He needs to get a chord.

00:39:49.860 But, no, so it gets crazier.

00:39:51.660 So, like, I love that, like, Curtis Yerven, you know, he comes on.

00:39:56.520 He...

00:39:56.860 We're, like, trying to prep him to, like, do, like, an intro.

00:39:59.760 Like, okay, this is what does well on YouTube. 1.00

00:40:02.320 He's like, fuck it. 1.00

00:40:02.880 I'm just starting. 1.00

00:40:03.780 Like, I don't get a chance to introduce him.

00:40:06.060 I don't get a chance to promote anything. 0.98

00:40:08.760 He's just like, I'm fucking starting this. 0.97

00:40:11.120 He's just... 0.99

00:40:11.800 No, he just has to, like, drop truth bomb after truth bomb.

00:40:15.100 And we've been Dresdened.

00:40:16.280 Like, I don't even know anymore.

00:40:17.460 Are you Dresdened with truth bomb?

00:40:18.980 My reality is burning.

00:40:20.920 It's on fire.

00:40:24.920 So, that is a good...

00:40:27.300 I like that, and I like you.

00:40:29.560 You are amazing.

00:40:30.500 I love you, too.

00:40:33.740 But I'm a little shook, Malcolm.

00:40:36.680 That was...

00:40:37.600 What?

00:40:37.760 Your reality was Dresdened with truth bombs?

00:40:40.520 But, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:40:43.200 You see, I was, like, recording.

00:40:44.340 I was like, oh, I could do a good episode on this.

00:40:45.880 I could do a good episode on this.

00:40:46.500 Yeah, but you're, like, there were so many receipts.

00:40:48.260 You had no more room in, like, your note. 0.99

00:40:50.500 Yeah, I'm like, shit. 0.99

00:40:51.920 I did too many names. 0.99

00:40:53.460 By the way, for anyone who don't know,

00:40:54.720 Curtis Yerven is a friend of ours.

00:40:57.100 We talk with him a lot.

00:40:59.040 Well, we were at conferences and stuff.

00:41:01.040 Like, every time we're at a conference...

00:41:02.120 Like, it started, we're, like, cold acquaintances.

00:41:04.320 We're, like, oh, I know who you are,

00:41:05.780 and you know who I am.

00:41:06.840 But I think we've been at enough conferences.

00:41:08.980 I feel very comfortable calling him a friend now.

00:41:10.920 We got him back!

00:41:13.040 Return.

00:41:13.920 I have returned.

00:41:14.860 All right, so I was telling the story of Bella Dodd, right?

00:41:17.580 Yes.

00:41:18.420 You got the Bella Dodd content.

00:41:19.980 So, Bella Dodd is on the Politburo, 0.99

00:41:21.760 and she's one of Browder's people,

00:41:24.560 and you gotta go.

00:41:26.660 You know, sometimes, sometimes...

00:41:28.660 You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, right?

00:41:30.820 And what's interesting is how they get rid of her, though,

00:41:33.700 because they basically try her

00:41:35.960 in front of a kangaroo court for racism.

00:41:39.140 They didn't even use the word racism.

00:41:40.760 It was racial chauvinism, or white chauvinism, maybe.

00:41:43.780 But basically, she was accused of being racist to her...

00:41:46.800 Who did this?

00:41:47.500 The Congress, or...?

00:41:48.660 The Communist Party.

00:41:50.020 Okay.

00:41:50.400 Basically, there was one place

00:41:52.880 where you could be cancelled for racism, you know,

00:41:56.180 in 1948.

00:41:56.540 And it was with the Communist Party.

00:41:58.000 And it was being in the Politburo

00:42:01.000 of the Communist Party USA.

00:42:02.740 They did it first!

00:42:04.180 Yeah.

00:42:04.800 And so, you know, you can go and find, basically... 1.00

00:42:08.380 It's just like people write these fucking books 0.99

00:42:10.060 like The Origin of Woke or whatever, 0.99

00:42:12.000 you know, which start in, like, 2012

00:42:13.660 or even 1965 or something, right?

00:42:16.780 Yeah.

00:42:16.980 You know, as if you couldn't find...

00:42:19.080 There's this insane book that W.E.B. Du Bois wrote.

00:42:24.860 Yeah.

00:42:25.340 Du Bois, not Du Bois.

00:42:26.960 Really?

00:42:27.760 No.

00:42:28.260 And the, like...

00:42:33.660 And, you know, which is called Dark Princess, 0.99

00:42:38.140 and it's this insane, like, anti-colonialist,

00:42:41.140 like, you know, fantasy, like...

00:42:43.860 Oh, it sounds like a BDSM chiclet.

00:42:46.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:47.040 And it has that element to it, right?

00:42:49.040 I think, and, you know, it's, like,

00:42:51.960 it's kind of pulpy, you know?

00:42:53.740 And it's not good, you know, which is why...

00:42:57.460 So who's referenced this book?

00:42:59.580 What's the relevance?

00:43:01.000 This was a review...

00:43:02.040 I only found this book in a review by,

00:43:03.820 I believe, Wyndham Lewis from the 1930s.

00:43:07.300 You know, Wyndham Lewis is very...

00:43:08.540 Oh, I gotta find the quotes from this.

00:43:10.240 Yeah.

00:43:11.140 By the way, Simone described this when you were gone,

00:43:13.780 because we kept recording.

00:43:15.240 She goes, she's been, what is it,

00:43:16.980 firebombed, like, Dresden with truth bombs.

00:43:19.880 Yeah, yeah, right.

00:43:21.240 Right, right, right.

00:43:21.740 She's recovering.

00:43:22.500 She's in shock.

00:43:23.300 Yeah, and so, and so, yeah, it drives you,

00:43:26.220 it drives you, you know, like, yeah,

00:43:28.220 you have to, you have to struggle a little

00:43:30.560 to keep your sanity, right?

00:43:32.280 You know, and the thing is, you know,

00:43:35.100 basically, you know, the truth about history

00:43:37.480 is that basically, like, QAnon is right in spirit.

00:43:41.080 Okay, it's wrong about everything,

00:43:42.920 but, like, in spirit, like, you know,

00:43:44.940 understanding that, like, this is not, like,

00:43:49.760 your mother, like, this is a demonic organism 0.91

00:43:52.080 from outer space.

00:43:53.320 Like, that's the thing to really understand.

00:43:55.580 You know, it's like, I was seeing someone writing

00:43:57.540 about, like, early, you know,

00:43:59.680 sort of the weirdness of 2020

00:44:01.700 and, like, the whole, like, rupture with reality.

00:44:05.180 Yeah.

00:44:05.840 That I think a lot of, you know,

00:44:08.340 smart liberals, you know,

00:44:12.520 like, certainly including, for example,

00:44:15.360 my ex, like, got into, were just, like,

00:44:20.440 well, the way I saw one person describing it

00:44:23.300 is it's basically, like, imagine, like,

00:44:25.580 you're living, you're, like, a kid, right?

00:44:27.400 You know, you're doing your, like, kid thing,

00:44:29.140 and then your mother, like, unzips her skin 0.88

00:44:31.220 and she's a robot. 1.00

00:44:32.600 And then your best friend's, you know,

00:44:34.540 mother unzips her skin

00:44:35.560 and she's also a robot. 1.00

00:44:36.780 It actually turns out that all the moms are robots 1.00

00:44:38.980 and everyone just sort of keeps carrying on,

00:44:40.920 like, that's normal, right?

00:44:42.140 Okay, everybody's mom is a robot. 0.97

00:44:43.520 No, that was so 20, that was so COVID.

00:44:46.080 Yeah.

00:44:46.220 Like, it was, like, oh, we're just, like, lying.

00:44:48.520 The media is just, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:50.260 Yeah, right?

00:44:51.180 I mean, the thing that I love is actually

00:44:52.800 no one knows where the six feet thing came from.

00:44:56.220 Really?

00:44:56.760 And it seems to be some suggestion

00:44:58.540 that social distancing just, like, came out there?

00:45:00.680 It came up with this number, right?

00:45:02.040 And there seems to be some evidence.

00:45:03.500 I heard somewhere that it was part of some, like,

00:45:05.080 11th grade science fair project

00:45:06.920 that came up with this number

00:45:08.540 for, like, social distancing.

00:45:10.280 Checks out.

00:45:10.700 Right, you know?

00:45:11.200 That totally sounds great.

00:45:12.320 And then they, like, completely lied

00:45:13.940 about this whole concept of, like,

00:45:15.340 droplets versus airborne for, like, a year

00:45:17.680 or, like, the way, year and a half.

00:45:20.320 Remember how COVID wasn't airborne?

00:45:22.120 It was spread only by droplets?

00:45:23.860 Yeah.

00:45:23.980 They were just, like, what?

00:45:24.780 What is the, you know, what is the difference?

00:45:26.700 And it turned out to, like, make no sense.

00:45:28.300 And actually, there's no difference. 0.54

00:45:29.400 It was just some, like, shitty research

00:45:30.920 from the 1960s.

00:45:32.340 You know, or how, actually, you know,

00:45:35.080 part of the resistance to declaring it airborne

00:45:37.920 seems to date all the way back

00:45:41.100 to a reaction in medical culture

00:45:44.260 against miasma theory.

00:45:45.780 And because miasma theory, you know,

00:45:48.800 the idea that, right, was-

00:45:50.800 Yeah, like, smells and bad odors and-

00:45:52.920 Right, the idea that things could be spread

00:45:55.360 in an airborne way, like, you know,

00:45:57.240 this is obviously the case for so many things,

00:45:59.300 like, sort of, it was just weird.

00:46:01.000 It was just, like, weird internal biases

00:46:03.200 in the medical system.

00:46:04.160 Yeah, like, oh, what do you want me to do?

00:46:05.520 You got a plague mask?

00:46:06.300 Starting with the insane idea

00:46:07.860 that it's really important to protect us

00:46:09.760 from bat viruses by going to southern China

00:46:12.420 and collecting all the bat viruses

00:46:13.860 and modifying to them to see if we can make them

00:46:15.820 more dangerous, right?

00:46:17.200 Which is-

00:46:17.660 Wait, that seems like a great idea.

00:46:19.280 The US government was funding, right?

00:46:20.240 It was, like, a great idea, right?

00:46:21.500 You know, and, like, imagine, like,

00:46:23.020 trying to get that past, like, a venture capitalist,

00:46:25.020 like, say, Marc Andreessen.

00:46:26.200 Like, Marc is suddenly in charge of funding science, right?

00:46:28.500 And you're just like, well, I think what we need to do

00:46:30.740 is go and collect all the bat viruses 1.00

00:46:32.340 and see if we can make them more dangerous

00:46:34.040 in a lab in China.

00:46:35.820 What do you mean by that?

00:46:36.460 Do you mean, like, perhaps there was a chance

00:46:38.660 that this was created in a lab?

00:46:40.260 Novel respiratory coronavirus

00:46:42.560 overtaking Wuhan, China.

00:46:45.320 What do we do?

00:46:46.320 Oh, you know who we could ask?

00:46:47.980 The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. 0.94

00:46:52.280 The disease is the same name as the lab.

00:46:57.100 That's just-

00:46:57.900 That's just a little too weird, don't you think?

00:46:59.920 And then they ask those scientists, they're like,

00:47:01.360 you work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab.

00:47:04.600 How did this happen?

00:47:05.760 And they're like,

00:47:06.560 a pangolin kissed a turtle.

00:47:08.660 And you're like, no.

00:47:12.160 The name of your lab, if you look at the name,

00:47:16.140 look at the name, can I-

00:47:17.620 Let me see your business card.

00:47:19.340 Show me your business card.

00:47:21.000 Oh, I work at the coronavirus lab in Wuhan.

00:47:27.260 Oh, because there's a coronavirus loose in Wuhan.

00:47:29.780 How did that happen?

00:47:31.300 Maybe a bat flew into the cloaca of a turkey,

00:47:37.520 and then it sneezed into my chili,

00:47:41.140 and now we all have coronavirus.

00:47:43.440 Like, okay.

00:47:43.920 Tell me why they thought that was a good idea.

00:47:46.960 I guess, like, conceptually,

00:47:48.140 I don't get why anyone thought that was a good idea.

00:47:50.720 Because you have to basically be zoomed in

00:47:53.340 really, really closely.

00:47:56.140 Because what actually happened

00:47:57.860 in terms of the history of that event

00:47:59.660 is, first of all, SARS-1 happens.

00:48:01.860 Yeah.

00:48:02.620 And SARS-1 is a completely legitimate zoonosis

00:48:05.980 that, and actually, you can watch

00:48:09.100 this wonderful Steven Soderbergh film, Contagion,

00:48:11.760 which you probably saw at some point.

00:48:13.120 It's about COVID, but it was made

00:48:14.560 before COVID was released.

00:48:15.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:16.520 You know, which is super fun,

00:48:19.460 and it, like, is completely,

00:48:22.700 the virus in Contagion is a bat coronavirus.

00:48:26.180 Yes.

00:48:26.540 That goes into a zoonosis.

00:48:27.920 Because what happens is that SARS-1,

00:48:29.740 which actually gets into humans,

00:48:30.980 kills like 100 people,

00:48:32.000 but isn't really contagious enough

00:48:33.620 to spread that well,

00:48:34.460 although it's very dangerous,

00:48:36.220 creates, is a problem, right?

00:48:37.960 There's clearly a problem

00:48:39.040 of bat coronaviruses mutating

00:48:42.220 to affect people.

00:48:44.620 Yeah.

00:48:44.860 It's a thing.

00:48:45.420 It happens.

00:48:45.740 Yeah.

00:48:46.180 Because it's a real problem,

00:48:48.720 guess what?

00:48:49.840 You can get a grant to study it.

00:48:51.880 And so that creates this huge,

00:48:54.080 imagine if you'd been researching

00:48:55.500 in this broad area,

00:48:57.480 here's this minor curiosity. 0.99

00:48:59.860 It fucking explodes. 0.99

00:49:01.060 It's like your startup took off. 0.99

00:49:02.500 It's incredible, right?

00:49:04.460 Yeah.

00:49:04.640 And so because of that incredible thing,

00:49:07.480 you have this boom mentality.

00:49:08.920 Suddenly this thing

00:49:09.900 that you happen to specialize in

00:49:11.720 because your, like, advisor

00:49:13.420 had some kind of, like,

00:49:14.440 furry bat fetish or something,

00:49:15.920 and you're the world's biggest expert

00:49:17.320 in bat coronaviruses

00:49:18.680 because of this weirdo, right?

00:49:20.360 And you're just like, 1.00

00:49:21.040 fuck my life. 1.00

00:49:21.720 And then suddenly it's a huge thing 1.00

00:49:23.840 which killed 100 people

00:49:24.940 and could have killed 100,000.

00:49:26.740 Yeah.

00:49:26.940 And you're like,

00:49:27.380 this is a serious thing, right?

00:49:29.700 And so we need to defend the world

00:49:31.180 against these viruses.

00:49:33.520 And actually the funniest thing

00:49:35.160 about this story is that,

00:49:36.580 you know, the main company,

00:49:38.980 I use that word advisedly,

00:49:40.140 the main contractor behind it

00:49:41.480 was this group,

00:49:42.060 Echo Health Associates.

00:49:44.180 And Echo Health,

00:49:45.100 run by the notorious Peter Daszak,

00:49:47.680 was actually...

00:49:48.660 Notorious why?

00:49:49.640 Yeah, why?

00:49:50.060 Because he was there,

00:49:51.480 ran Echo Health,

00:49:52.360 and he was the one

00:49:52.980 who sponsored all this research

00:49:54.620 and funded the PREDICT study

00:49:57.140 in which the lab in Wuhan

00:49:59.220 was working from.

00:50:00.600 Okay, he did it.

00:50:01.340 This was all...

00:50:01.860 This was not Chinese research.

00:50:03.700 This was American research 0.98

00:50:04.880 being done...

00:50:06.040 In China.

00:50:06.540 Largely to save money,

00:50:07.760 but also because there were

00:50:08.640 many Chinese grad students

00:50:09.720 who needed work in China.

00:50:11.660 Interesting.

00:50:12.880 Right.

00:50:13.420 And the funniest thing is,

00:50:14.900 do you know the name?

00:50:15.980 We don't know any names.

00:50:18.040 He was...

00:50:19.000 I grew up in the, like,

00:50:20.280 reading a lot of Commonwealth books.

00:50:21.900 He was huge in the Commonwealth recently.

00:50:24.060 There was an HBO show

00:50:26.360 about the Durrells in Corfu or something.

00:50:28.560 His brother is Lawrence Durrell.

00:50:30.420 And I love these Gerald Durrell books

00:50:32.300 because, as a kid,

00:50:34.600 because he basically went around

00:50:36.020 collecting animals

00:50:36.940 from, like, the decaying British Empire

00:50:38.600 and taking them...

00:50:39.520 Cute, fuzzy little animals,

00:50:41.080 like little lemurs and things,

00:50:42.380 and taking them back to his zoo in Jersey,

00:50:45.520 not New Jersey, but Jersey,

00:50:47.320 to, like, breed

00:50:48.820 and, like, restore,

00:50:49.960 save these populations,

00:50:50.880 which were all about to be

00:50:51.960 for bushmeat

00:50:53.360 as, you know,

00:50:54.420 France for no one rips

00:50:55.500 the British Empire apart, right?

00:50:57.780 And so, you know,

00:51:00.040 he saves them...

00:51:00.920 And so saving cute little animals

00:51:02.540 is something that old ladies 1.00

00:51:03.720 will contribute to.

00:51:05.340 Yeah.

00:51:05.500 So he founds an organization

00:51:06.740 called the Wildlife Trust,

00:51:08.500 which specializes

00:51:09.580 in these ecological expeditions

00:51:11.440 to save cute little animals.

00:51:13.420 Well, a young wildlife biologist

00:51:15.120 named Peter Daszak

00:51:16.180 realizes,

00:51:17.440 while working at the Wildlife Trust,

00:51:20.220 that actually, you know,

00:51:22.080 while people love to give money

00:51:24.220 to save cute baby animals,

00:51:26.480 you know,

00:51:26.840 governments love to give

00:51:27.960 serious amounts of money

00:51:29.940 to save off important

00:51:31.820 public health problems,

00:51:33.080 such as bat coronaviruses.

00:51:35.080 So it goes from basically finding,

00:51:37.340 just due to the incentives

00:51:38.560 of the situation,

00:51:39.780 this one organization goes

00:51:41.200 from saving the cute baby lemurs

00:51:43.320 to collecting all the bat coronaviruses.

00:51:46.300 Yeah.

00:51:46.600 Okay, because they could be a threat,

00:51:48.160 so we have to predict

00:51:49.120 their emergence.

00:51:49.860 That would make them more dangerous.

00:51:51.340 The monetary incentive is there

00:51:52.740 because there's money

00:51:53.820 that's putting money.

00:51:54.420 Very simple.

00:51:55.260 Okay, so basically,

00:51:56.480 you want to show

00:51:57.200 the point of your paper

00:51:58.180 is to show that this is a problem,

00:51:59.580 so the government

00:52:00.180 will give you more money.

00:52:01.660 Well, in order,

00:52:02.280 these are bat viruses, right? 0.82

00:52:04.180 They don't naturally infect humans

00:52:05.440 and just sitting there

00:52:06.080 doing the things,

00:52:07.040 you know,

00:52:07.260 every bat has like 1.00

00:52:08.220 a ton of these fucking viruses, 1.00

00:52:10.000 right? 1.00

00:52:10.820 Which fucked up all our lives 0.79

00:52:12.020 for two years, 0.96

00:52:12.700 killed millions of people, right?

00:52:14.280 But they don't naturally do that

00:52:15.660 because they naturally infect bats.

00:52:18.220 But the thing is,

00:52:18.920 they can mutate.

00:52:20.140 They can mutate.

00:52:20.860 They change around.

00:52:21.660 They become different things, right?

00:52:23.280 You know,

00:52:23.580 and that happens.

00:52:24.520 You were just trying to show

00:52:25.700 how they could be dangerous?

00:52:27.420 It takes a long time.

00:52:29.080 It takes a long time

00:52:30.420 for them to do this accidentally.

00:52:33.060 But the thing is,

00:52:34.200 if we do it on purpose,

00:52:36.480 we can show

00:52:37.300 how it could happen accidentally.

00:52:39.500 Yeah.

00:52:40.140 And that basically

00:52:40.980 helps us understand

00:52:42.260 how to like,

00:52:43.480 I don't know,

00:52:44.020 something,

00:52:44.540 something,

00:52:44.920 something.

00:52:45.240 You know,

00:52:45.380 it's like,

00:52:45.820 imagine you have like a child.

00:52:47.520 You have a number of children.

00:52:48.200 Imagine your oldest child.

00:52:49.860 You come home

00:52:50.780 and you find him

00:52:52.160 and he's setting fire

00:52:53.280 for the kitchen curtains.

00:52:57.180 And you're just like,

00:52:58.340 and you're like,

00:52:58.880 Henry,

00:52:59.220 what are you doing?

00:52:59.880 And you're,

00:53:00.260 and he's like,

00:53:01.020 well,

00:53:01.220 statistics show that,

00:53:02.180 you know,

00:53:02.400 many kitchen fires,

00:53:04.100 many fires,

00:53:04.800 how domestic fires

00:53:05.560 start in the kitchen. 0.95

00:53:07.140 So,

00:53:07.760 you know,

00:53:08.140 what would we do,

00:53:09.360 for example,

00:53:09.840 if those curtains caught fire?

00:53:11.420 Yeah,

00:53:11.700 let's figure out the plan.

00:53:13.040 Could we get out?

00:53:14.040 Could the dog get out?

00:53:15.380 Right.

00:53:15.660 You know,

00:53:16.000 and you know,

00:53:16.480 when you're,

00:53:16.720 when you're like the dog get out,

00:53:18.100 you know,

00:53:18.320 you realize that like,

00:53:19.800 just the teenage years

00:53:20.900 of raising this organism

00:53:21.900 are going to be like anything

00:53:23.060 you ever considered experiencing.

00:53:24.760 You know,

00:53:25.620 we're all ready

00:53:26.780 and we need to talk about

00:53:27.780 Kevin Charity.

00:53:28.320 We're running out of time

00:53:29.160 and I need to get to the end of this.

00:53:30.480 I need to get to,

00:53:32.100 one,

00:53:32.820 this famous actor couple

00:53:34.240 who turned out to be real communists

00:53:35.760 and everyone thought

00:53:36.400 were pretend communists.

00:53:37.720 What?

00:53:38.000 And then two,

00:53:39.080 Hillary Clinton's connection

00:53:40.000 to all this.

00:53:41.380 Oh,

00:53:41.620 Hillary Clinton's connection

00:53:42.940 to all this.

00:53:43.320 So Hillary Clinton's connection

00:53:44.580 to all of this

00:53:45.120 is very simple.

00:53:46.180 So I'm not sure

00:53:47.140 if you mean

00:53:47.680 which actor couple you mean

00:53:49.040 because,

00:53:49.420 you know,

00:53:49.600 they were all communists.

00:53:50.380 Everyone was cool.

00:53:51.300 They were the famous actor couple

00:53:52.120 that were jailed.

00:53:52.980 Sorry,

00:53:53.420 what I was getting wrong

00:53:54.180 is they weren't actors.

00:53:55.480 I was thinking of,

00:53:56.620 because he had told me about this

00:53:57.700 that I didn't know,

00:53:58.740 Julius and Ethel Rosenberg,

00:54:00.260 you know,

00:54:00.460 sort of the faces

00:54:01.140 of communist hysteria

00:54:02.340 who ended up being executed

00:54:04.120 for being communist sympathizers

00:54:06.140 and were the only people

00:54:06.960 in the United States

00:54:07.480 executed for being communist sympathizers.

00:54:09.880 And they maintained

00:54:10.760 their innocence

00:54:11.320 throughout the entire trial

00:54:12.420 and it was this huge scandal.

00:54:14.120 And now we know

00:54:15.100 from declassified documents

00:54:16.640 that they weren't just

00:54:18.060 communist sympathizers.

00:54:19.360 They were actively spying

00:54:20.600 for the Soviet Union

00:54:21.760 and actively spying

00:54:23.180 on the Manhattan Project

00:54:24.200 for the Soviet Union.

00:54:25.680 So they were traitors

00:54:26.760 to the country

00:54:27.720 in a way that could have gotten 0.56

00:54:29.080 innumerous Americans killed.

00:54:31.040 Well,

00:54:31.540 the Hollywood 10,

00:54:32.740 for example,

00:54:33.320 which might be part

00:54:34.060 of what you're talking about,

00:54:35.320 those were,

00:54:36.060 they were more screenwriters

00:54:37.160 and they were actually

00:54:37.980 the leaders

00:54:38.560 of the Communist Party

00:54:40.100 in Hollywood,

00:54:41.200 which had basically been,

00:54:42.680 which had been a CPUSA,

00:54:44.920 basically,

00:54:45.640 CPUSA had been acting

00:54:46.900 as a closed shop union

00:54:48.560 for all the screenwriters

00:54:50.780 of all the films

00:54:51.980 that all Americans watched 0.99

00:54:53.660 for 20 fucking years. 0.99

00:54:55.220 So if you want to talk about 0.99

00:54:56.420 like,

00:54:56.820 you know,

00:54:57.200 propaganda

00:54:57.740 or like programming people,

00:54:59.780 right,

00:55:00.100 you know,

00:55:00.780 and,

00:55:01.440 and they wouldn't,

00:55:02.760 they would only do things

00:55:03.800 that were basically,

00:55:04.560 you know,

00:55:05.580 within the Overton window.

00:55:06.780 Their business was pushing

00:55:07.700 the Overton window.

00:55:08.680 You might have,

00:55:09.460 if you saw the great

00:55:10.280 Coen Brothers movie,

00:55:11.300 Hail Caesar,

00:55:12.440 you might,

00:55:13.260 you might have seen

00:55:14.080 that vibe.

00:55:15.900 Go over Hillary. 1.00

00:55:17.020 Okay,

00:55:17.200 the Hillary thing. 0.90

00:55:17.900 So very,

00:55:18.380 very simple.

00:55:19.500 So the doyen 1.00

00:55:20.800 of the CPUSA,

00:55:22.800 because she had

00:55:23.680 this incredible

00:55:24.700 English Aristo vibe

00:55:26.760 was Jessica Mitford,

00:55:29.240 known as Deca Mitford.

00:55:30.820 And Deca Mitford

00:55:32.240 comes over to the US

00:55:33.640 shortly before the war.

00:55:35.480 And then her husband,

00:55:37.300 Esmond Romilly,

00:55:38.520 is killed in the Battle of Britain.

00:55:41.060 And so she's a very popular woman

00:55:43.640 about town being,

00:55:44.700 being,

00:55:45.380 being,

00:55:45.720 being,

00:55:46.220 being single,

00:55:47.160 you know.

00:55:47.580 And so very,

00:55:49.200 if you're doing it,

00:55:49.960 sort of graphing

00:55:51.200 the social networks

00:55:52.320 of the CPUSA,

00:55:54.400 you know,

00:55:54.580 you will always find

00:55:55.520 these like hereditary

00:55:56.560 aristocrats on top.

00:55:58.680 I mean,

00:55:58.860 I can't imagine,

00:55:59.860 you know,

00:56:00.140 what Jessica Mitford's

00:56:01.140 accent was like,

00:56:02.100 you know.

00:56:02.780 And,

00:56:03.320 and,

00:56:04.180 you know,

00:56:04.440 her sister's duchess,

00:56:05.820 right,

00:56:06.060 et cetera,

00:56:06.460 et cetera,

00:56:06.800 et cetera.

00:56:07.260 So she's the, 0.79

00:56:08.080 she's really the social queen

00:56:09.960 of American communism.

00:56:11.700 Well,

00:56:12.240 the second husband

00:56:14.200 who she marries

00:56:15.020 is a guy named

00:56:15.660 Bob Truehoft.

00:56:17.060 And Bob Truehoft

00:56:18.700 runs the leading

00:56:20.620 West Coast

00:56:22.120 labor law firm,

00:56:24.040 which means basically

00:56:25.120 runs the leading

00:56:26.220 communist law firm.

00:56:27.360 Yeah,

00:56:27.640 power couple.

00:56:28.700 Okay.

00:56:29.260 Runs the leading

00:56:30.060 communist law firm

00:56:30.980 on the West Coast.

00:56:31.960 So when Hillary Clinton

00:56:33.640 graduates from Yale

00:56:34.760 Law School,

00:56:35.780 where did she go

00:56:36.440 to work first?

00:56:37.320 Oh,

00:56:37.620 no.

00:56:37.780 Why for Rob Truehoft's

00:56:39.120 firm?

00:56:39.760 Oh,

00:56:40.120 God.

00:56:40.420 Either she had

00:56:41.260 no idea,

00:56:42.520 having written

00:56:43.160 her senior thesis

00:56:44.740 at Wellesley

00:56:45.620 on Saul Alinsky,

00:56:46.960 either she had

00:56:48.340 no idea

00:56:49.100 or,

00:56:49.820 you know,

00:56:49.980 it's just like

00:56:50.580 this stuff is so

00:56:52.020 completely blatant

00:56:53.220 and out and open,

00:56:54.220 right?

00:56:54.560 You know,

00:56:55.140 and it's like

00:56:56.420 Barack Obama's

00:56:57.180 connection to Bel Air

00:56:57.960 is it's just like,

00:56:58.780 yeah,

00:56:58.980 sure,

00:56:59.380 they,

00:56:59.700 you know,

00:57:00.920 and,

00:57:01.280 and so imagine

00:57:02.820 if like,

00:57:03.700 imagine if like

00:57:04.660 George W. Bush

00:57:05.900 was like

00:57:06.360 disconnected

00:57:06.880 to like Nazis.

00:57:08.260 Oh,

00:57:08.360 here's another fun fact.

00:57:09.880 Here's a fun fact

00:57:11.000 that you don't also,

00:57:11.960 maybe I didn't mention.

00:57:13.240 Let's talk about

00:57:14.020 how many degrees

00:57:14.740 of separation

00:57:15.420 connect

00:57:16.060 vice president

00:57:17.520 Kamala Harris

00:57:18.500 to the reverend

00:57:20.140 Jim Jones?

00:57:22.080 How many degrees

00:57:22.980 of separation

00:57:23.520 would you expect there?

00:57:25.980 Three?

00:57:26.900 Three.

00:57:27.960 Three.

00:57:28.820 Malcolm.

00:57:29.140 Give,

00:57:29.540 how little,

00:57:30.220 what?

00:57:30.820 Okay,

00:57:31.300 go further.

00:57:33.400 Definitely not three.

00:57:36.240 Two.

00:57:38.740 No,

00:57:39.380 come on,

00:57:39.880 give it,

00:57:40.440 give it,

00:57:40.780 give it.

00:57:41.060 We don't want to guess.

00:57:42.120 So,

00:57:42.440 so Jim Jones,

00:57:43.220 Jim Jones has been,

00:57:44.220 is,

00:57:44.600 has been written

00:57:45.280 out of,

00:57:46.400 you know,

00:57:46.720 his actual history.

00:57:47.900 He's been described

00:57:48.780 as a sort of weird

00:57:49.700 lone nut.

00:57:50.760 Actually,

00:57:51.200 he's a pillar

00:57:51.960 of the 1970s

00:57:53.400 San Francisco

00:57:54.000 Democratic Party,

00:57:55.480 which is the milieu

00:57:56.360 out of which,

00:57:57.580 of course,

00:57:58.000 you might not know

00:57:58.540 who Jim Jones is.

00:57:59.420 He's the guy

00:57:59.740 who killed 0.98

00:58:00.140 all those people

00:58:00.760 in South America.

00:58:01.660 Jonestown,

00:58:02.080 Jonestown.

00:58:02.560 So,

00:58:02.760 Jim Jones ran

00:58:04.160 a progressive

00:58:05.100 interracial church.

00:58:06.520 It was genuinely

00:58:07.240 interracial

00:58:08.260 in which,

00:58:08.820 that consisted

00:58:10.060 of basically 1.00

00:58:10.900 ignorant poor 1.00

00:58:12.120 black people 1.00

00:58:12.780 and like

00:58:13.480 rich socialites

00:58:14.600 and a match

00:58:16.460 made in heaven.

00:58:17.120 And they always do.

00:58:17.660 A match made in heaven

00:58:18.780 and it went to heaven.

00:58:19.900 By the way,

00:58:20.280 it was not Kool-Aid.

00:58:22.120 It was Flavor-Aid.

00:58:23.460 Most people don't know this.

00:58:24.300 Oh,

00:58:24.580 but no,

00:58:25.100 that's extra insulting.

00:58:26.640 No.

00:58:27.220 And we also

00:58:27.660 are not told

00:58:28.640 that Jim Jones

00:58:29.360 was such a huge booster

00:58:30.640 of the Soviet Union

00:58:31.800 that his plan

00:58:33.060 was always to escape

00:58:34.100 to the Soviet Union

00:58:35.120 and he actually

00:58:36.000 had the People's Temple

00:58:37.200 Treasury donated

00:58:38.760 to the USSR

00:58:39.680 in his will.

00:58:40.960 What?

00:58:41.620 Okay,

00:58:41.820 believe it or not.

00:58:42.840 But also,

00:58:43.720 he was a tiller

00:58:44.680 of the San Francisco

00:58:45.780 Democratic Party

00:58:46.820 who he used to do

00:58:47.820 like vote harvesting

00:58:48.780 type things for.

00:58:50.040 Oh,

00:58:50.340 no.

00:58:50.500 And there's actually

00:58:51.520 a quote from

00:58:52.660 Kamala Harris's mentor,

00:58:56.080 Willie Brown.

00:58:56.900 You know,

00:58:57.340 you might say she came,

00:58:58.440 you might say,

00:58:59.540 you might say she came up

00:59:00.920 under Willie,

00:59:02.000 as they say.

00:59:03.480 Oh,

00:59:03.500 and,

00:59:03.880 and,

00:59:04.500 and,

00:59:05.020 He was in her 20s

00:59:05.780 and he was in his 60s.

00:59:06.600 I just need to point that out.

00:59:08.000 Okay,

00:59:08.180 continue.

00:59:08.480 And,

00:59:08.720 and,

00:59:09.000 and I,

00:59:10.580 yeah,

00:59:10.900 I don't have any problem

00:59:11.700 with age gap relationships,

00:59:12.720 obviously,

00:59:13.180 but,

00:59:13.560 you know,

00:59:13.800 the,

00:59:14.080 the,

00:59:14.680 the,

00:59:15.580 the,

00:59:16.160 you know,

00:59:19.260 there's a great quote

00:59:20.580 from Willie Brown

00:59:22.060 about Jim Jones

00:59:23.580 who you work closely with

00:59:24.820 and that quote is,

00:59:26.140 I forget the order of these,

00:59:27.440 you'll find all these,

00:59:28.160 this great City Journal article

00:59:29.340 that you'll find all these.

00:59:30.360 Yeah,

00:59:30.660 Willie Brown said,

00:59:31.680 when I think of Jim Jones,

00:59:33.180 I think of a combination

00:59:34.720 of,

00:59:36.240 I think the names were

00:59:37.700 Albert Einstein,

00:59:39.160 Martin Luther King Jr.,

00:59:40.940 Mount C.

00:59:41.440 Tongue,

00:59:41.860 and Angela Davis.

00:59:43.060 Oh my God.

00:59:43.560 Possibly not in that order.

00:59:45.240 It's not a great list of names.

00:59:46.800 You think of those,

00:59:47.900 you know,

00:59:48.320 and,

00:59:48.720 and,

00:59:48.820 and,

00:59:49.200 and like,

00:59:49.680 even better,

00:59:50.920 you ever,

00:59:51.340 you ever been to San Francisco?

00:59:52.920 It's a town,

00:59:53.580 it's midway in California.

00:59:55.440 And sometimes,

00:59:56.100 when you ever fly into Terminal 1,

00:59:57.880 it's the Harvey Milk Terminal.

00:59:59.480 Oh yeah.

00:59:59.860 Okay.

01:00:00.700 What,

01:00:01.060 the document that I want to see,

01:00:02.680 like,

01:00:03.020 like a five by eight feet

01:00:05.320 blown up on the wall.

01:00:07.020 I don't even want to change the name

01:00:08.920 in Project 2025.

01:00:10.740 You know,

01:00:11.120 I want to like,

01:00:11.920 that's my,

01:00:12.340 you know,

01:00:12.560 I just want the picture on the wall,

01:00:15.000 full image of the letter

01:00:16.620 that Harvey Milk

01:00:18.240 wrote to Jim,

01:00:20.200 Jimmy Carter

01:00:21.260 defending Jim Jones.

01:00:23.640 Oh hell yeah.

01:00:27.100 No,

01:00:27.580 no,

01:00:28.340 no,

01:00:28.700 no,

01:00:28.840 no,

01:00:29.180 no.

01:00:30.500 You'll find this image

01:00:32.020 and actually he's not just

01:00:33.660 defending Jim Jones,

01:00:34.740 he's defending Jim Jones

01:00:36.180 right to basically

01:00:37.660 take away

01:00:38.660 this child

01:00:39.740 who was basically

01:00:41.080 claimed by

01:00:42.740 his mother

01:00:43.520 from his father

01:00:44.300 and taken to Jonestown

01:00:45.660 who later dies

01:00:46.720 at Jonestown.

01:00:47.780 Oh yeah.

01:00:49.000 Oh yeah.

01:00:49.500 Yeah,

01:00:49.600 yeah,

01:00:49.780 yeah,

01:00:49.840 yeah.

01:00:50.040 Harvey Milk was such a monstrous character.

01:00:52.300 I think a lot of people 0.98

01:00:53.220 who he raped 0.73

01:00:55.020 and then, 0.99

01:00:55.500 you know, 0.97

01:00:55.780 killed himself,

01:00:56.680 you know,

01:00:57.220 and,

01:00:57.640 and.

01:00:58.660 So I was surprised by this

01:01:00.560 and I wanted to dig into it

01:01:01.820 to see if this is some conspiracy

01:01:03.240 or some sort of like

01:01:04.380 far right insanity

01:01:05.620 or is this like

01:01:07.240 a mainstream fact

01:01:08.440 that's pretty accepted

01:01:09.600 by everyone?

01:01:10.820 And so Harvey Milk,

01:01:11.520 if you don't know,

01:01:12.160 there's been a movie made about him,

01:01:13.340 there's a terminal named after him

01:01:14.360 at the San Francisco airport.

01:01:15.540 He is considered

01:01:16.160 a very famous figure

01:01:17.320 and it is also very,

01:01:18.760 very well known

01:01:19.440 that when he was 33,

01:01:21.340 he was in a relationship

01:01:23.220 with Jake McKinney

01:01:24.760 who at the time

01:01:25.740 was 16 years old.

01:01:27.280 The core defense of this

01:01:29.380 that I have seen from leftists

01:01:31.440 is,

01:01:32.280 well,

01:01:32.560 in many U.S. states,

01:01:34.060 age of consent is 16,

01:01:35.740 so this is okay.

01:01:37.120 But it wasn't 16 in California

01:01:39.400 where they were,

01:01:40.440 it was 18.

01:01:41.940 It does appear

01:01:42.980 that his accusations,

01:01:44.920 grape are overblown,

01:01:46.940 unless you're just talking

01:01:47.760 about statutory rape,

01:01:48.720 which I don't really consider grape.

01:01:50.780 And then the second thing here is,

01:01:53.700 did the guy end up

01:01:54.420 unaliving himself

01:01:55.260 over this relationship?

01:01:56.900 Yes, he did.

01:01:57.840 He ended up jumping off a ledge

01:02:00.320 at 1980,

01:02:02.220 February 14th.

01:02:03.620 So, yes,

01:02:04.480 it is true

01:02:05.080 that Harvey Milk

01:02:06.040 was a PDA file,

01:02:07.440 was a 16-year-old

01:02:08.540 who later ended up

01:02:09.760 jumping as a result of this.

01:02:11.720 I don't know,

01:02:14.220 like, you know,

01:02:14.720 like, you know,

01:02:16.360 here's the thing,

01:02:17.240 here's the thing,

01:02:18.000 in Chinese history,

01:02:19.740 okay,

01:02:20.040 in Chinese history,

01:02:21.400 whenever you have

01:02:22.140 a regime change

01:02:23.200 in Chinese history,

01:02:24.740 that's a change of dynasty.

01:02:26.800 Okay.

01:02:27.280 There was a sort of,

01:02:28.220 that happened enough

01:02:29.280 that the sort of

01:02:29.980 a kind of metadynasties regime 0.53

01:02:32.620 in a way sprung up in China

01:02:34.120 where there were like,

01:02:35.360 this was how you handled that.

01:02:36.840 Every dynasty was supposed 0.57

01:02:37.960 to be eternal, of course,

01:02:38.920 but this is how you handled that.

01:02:40.460 And the way you handled that

01:02:41.360 is the first thing

01:02:42.140 that every new regime,

01:02:44.220 every new dynasty does,

01:02:46.160 is hire basically

01:02:47.280 more historians than God

01:02:49.340 in order to write the history

01:02:51.380 of the previous dynasty.

01:02:53.300 Yeah, yes, of course.

01:02:54.400 Which, of course,

01:02:55.160 is born gloriously

01:02:56.480 and finishes,

01:02:58.400 and born neutrally, really,

01:02:59.780 like, you can phrase it,

01:03:01.140 you can,

01:03:01.700 but it finishes

01:03:02.580 in, like, complete ignominy.

01:03:05.140 Okay, and right,

01:03:06.060 you know,

01:03:06.780 the point is that

01:03:07.620 when it comes time

01:03:08.900 for the future

01:03:10.980 to describe the present,

01:03:13.620 it ain't gonna be hard.

01:03:17.180 You know,

01:03:17.920 it ain't gonna be hard.

01:03:19.260 I mean,

01:03:20.420 we win.

01:03:22.560 I can look at

01:03:23.180 who's having kids

01:03:24.060 and I can be like,

01:03:25.180 I know what the history books

01:03:26.620 are gonna say

01:03:27.300 about the present.

01:03:28.100 It's gonna be

01:03:29.020 non-charitable

01:03:30.960 in the extreme

01:03:32.020 about the people who...

01:03:33.560 Yeah, it's gonna basically say,

01:03:35.460 it's gonna be, like,

01:03:36.420 very simple.

01:03:37.100 Like, there were,

01:03:38.680 you know,

01:03:39.320 white people build 0.99

01:03:40.380 big ruin, 0.99

01:03:41.280 all gone,

01:03:42.340 big ruin,

01:03:43.060 you know,

01:03:43.600 full of decaying bats.

01:03:47.740 No, I don't even think that.

01:03:49.240 I think we're the locust

01:03:50.800 in urban culture.

01:03:52.780 And, you know,

01:03:54.160 then, you know,

01:03:54.900 over there,

01:03:55.380 Amish country,

01:03:56.140 bad, no go.

01:03:56.780 You know,

01:03:57.640 I don't know.

01:03:59.880 No, I think that the

01:04:01.520 locusts in the urban monoculture

01:04:02.640 are gonna be treated

01:04:03.200 in history the same way

01:04:04.200 that the Germans

01:04:04.880 are treated in Roman history.

01:04:07.080 It's like,

01:04:07.780 yeah,

01:04:08.380 there were these people

01:04:09.060 who kept attacking us randomly, 0.95

01:04:10.840 but they're basically savages, 0.78

01:04:12.500 write them out of history.

01:04:14.580 Well, no,

01:04:15.340 actually,

01:04:15.820 if you look at the way

01:04:16.560 Tauacitus treats the Germans, 1.00

01:04:18.180 it's actually somewhat

01:04:18.980 different from that

01:04:19.900 because Tauacitus

01:04:21.100 is actually recognizing,

01:04:22.740 as well as the barbarity

01:04:23.960 of the Germans,

01:04:24.700 who's recognizing

01:04:25.460 their superiority.

01:04:27.320 And he basically sees,

01:04:29.060 like,

01:04:29.160 wow,

01:04:29.460 these Germans are faithful

01:04:30.440 to their wives 0.92

01:04:31.300 the way we Romans used to be.

01:04:33.420 Wow,

01:04:33.760 they actually remind us

01:04:34.880 a lot about the way

01:04:35.920 legend tells us

01:04:36.780 we Romans were

01:04:37.560 in, like,

01:04:38.320 600 BC,

01:04:40.120 right?

01:04:40.740 Actually,

01:04:41.420 modern anthropology

01:04:42.540 has basically figured out

01:04:44.300 that this is true

01:04:45.140 and this is because

01:04:46.000 the Romans in 600 BC 0.99

01:04:47.540 were basically fucking 0.98

01:04:49.000 Yamnaya, 0.99

01:04:49.800 six-foot-six,

01:04:50.600 blonde gods 1.00

01:04:51.340 from the steppes,

01:04:52.300 right?

01:04:52.780 Like the Germans of his day. 1.00

01:04:54.460 And, you know,

01:04:55.560 they just got diluted

01:04:56.500 by what the Nordic peoples

01:04:57.900 called the Thrall cast,

01:04:59.620 right?

01:05:00.100 And so, you know,

01:05:03.440 actually,

01:05:04.320 when you look at,

01:05:05.620 basically,

01:05:06.580 who fits that description today,

01:05:09.060 you know,

01:05:09.320 what sort of foreign

01:05:10.420 and, like,

01:05:11.220 deeply alien people 1.00

01:05:12.680 do we see today

01:05:14.480 that are,

01:05:15.920 in some ways,

01:05:17.060 superior to us,

01:05:18.080 how could we write

01:05:18.860 a kind of new Tauacitus?

01:05:20.820 And then I'm like,

01:05:21.960 well,

01:05:22.600 I can always start

01:05:25.440 talking about

01:05:25.840 the Moscow Metro,

01:05:27.140 you know?

01:05:29.260 What's the Moscow Metro?

01:05:30.740 I have no idea

01:05:31.300 what to say.

01:05:31.440 The Moscow Metro

01:05:32.220 is a clean subway

01:05:33.680 in Moscow,

01:05:35.040 which is a place

01:05:35.660 in Russia.

01:05:37.660 Okay?

01:05:37.920 Okay?

01:05:38.400 It is a clean,

01:05:39.260 attractive subway.

01:05:40.500 He's referring to

01:05:41.140 the actual Moscow Metro.

01:05:43.460 It's not like a mutualism.

01:05:45.140 It's just the Metro.

01:05:45.980 The actual Moscow Metro.

01:05:47.340 I would basically be like,

01:05:48.740 you know,

01:05:49.100 wow,

01:05:50.160 these people are really 0.92

01:05:51.100 kind of barbaric

01:05:51.880 in some ways,

01:05:52.620 but, you know,

01:05:53.180 in other ways,

01:05:53.900 they actually

01:05:54.960 kind of seem superior.

01:05:56.420 Dude,

01:05:56.680 anything compared to BART,

01:05:57.960 I'm sorry,

01:05:58.600 is going to look like

01:05:59.420 you can eat off the floors.

01:06:00.680 I just don't know

01:06:01.300 what to say.

01:06:02.300 Well,

01:06:02.660 you've been to New York,

01:06:04.000 right?

01:06:04.380 I'm sorry,

01:06:04.860 but you've been to New York.

01:06:05.560 You can't eat off the floors.

01:06:06.580 Touche.

01:06:07.040 Touche.

01:06:07.560 But even in Paris,

01:06:09.260 you know,

01:06:09.460 it's like,

01:06:09.780 you even compare

01:06:10.320 the Paris Metro

01:06:11.180 to the Moscow Metro.

01:06:12.160 You know,

01:06:13.020 I'm hardly setting

01:06:14.380 foreign policy

01:06:15.440 for the new Trump

01:06:16.220 Vance administration.

01:06:17.440 That will obviously

01:06:18.060 be set by

01:06:19.220 Cech's phone,

01:06:20.060 Marco Rubio.

01:06:21.200 You know,

01:06:21.540 however,

01:06:22.180 you know,

01:06:22.560 if I was,

01:06:23.380 you know,

01:06:23.780 somehow appointed

01:06:24.500 as Secretary of State,

01:06:25.580 which seems quite unlikely

01:06:26.460 at this point,

01:06:27.280 you know,

01:06:27.600 I think I have

01:06:28.820 somewhat tacit,

01:06:29.840 it's inspired,

01:06:32.040 maybe it's inspired

01:06:33.060 more by Charles Mraz,

01:06:34.460 I don't know,

01:06:34.960 but,

01:06:35.300 you know,

01:06:35.440 my foreign policy

01:06:36.700 is very simple

01:06:37.740 toward Russia.

01:06:39.940 Okay.

01:06:40.420 I believe that

01:06:41.400 we should draw

01:06:42.240 a red line

01:06:44.480 in the sand.

01:06:45.160 It's actually,

01:06:45.480 it's a very strong policy.

01:06:46.940 People have accused me

01:06:47.760 of being a Russia simp.

01:06:48.880 This is not true at all.

01:06:50.160 Okay.

01:06:50.540 I believe that we need,

01:06:51.680 that the president,

01:06:52.820 the incoming president,

01:06:53.960 needs to make

01:06:54.580 a strong statement

01:06:55.720 to Vladimir Putin.

01:06:59.120 He needs to say,

01:07:00.040 we've drawn a line

01:07:00.900 in the sand.

01:07:01.740 And beyond this line,

01:07:02.960 Mr. Putin,

01:07:03.540 no,

01:07:03.860 no aggression will stand.

01:07:05.020 He said that

01:07:06.240 to Saddam Hussein,

01:07:07.140 by the way.

01:07:07.520 Do you want to be

01:07:07.940 in a spider hole 0.91

01:07:08.540 like Saddam?

01:07:09.060 Didn't think so.

01:07:10.280 Right?

01:07:10.560 So beyond this line,

01:07:11.420 no aggression will stand.

01:07:13.020 And, you know,

01:07:13.480 and when I say that line,

01:07:14.600 it reminds me

01:07:15.240 of a number,

01:07:16.060 another great line

01:07:17.140 in American history

01:07:18.200 by another great president,

01:07:20.180 also a very charismatic man,

01:07:21.660 Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

01:07:23.500 And in 1937,

01:07:25.300 something like that,

01:07:26.380 he said this thing

01:07:27.100 to reporters,

01:07:27.800 which he later denied,

01:07:28.780 but he definitely did say it.

01:07:29.980 He said,

01:07:30.660 America's frontier

01:07:31.500 is on the rise.

01:07:33.340 How does that sound?

01:07:34.140 Oh my God.

01:07:34.560 America's frontier

01:07:35.380 is on the rise.

01:07:36.320 So,

01:07:36.640 so we're doing it by rivers.

01:07:38.380 He did.

01:07:39.300 So we're doing it.

01:07:40.280 We're doing it by rivers

01:07:41.380 or at least bodies

01:07:42.300 of water here.

01:07:43.240 So, you know,

01:07:43.820 if you look at kind

01:07:44.600 of the current policy,

01:07:46.240 the policy of my predecessor,

01:07:48.280 we might say,

01:07:49.200 America's frontier

01:07:50.860 is on the Dnieper

01:07:51.820 or excuse me,

01:07:53.700 Dniepro,

01:07:54.620 you know,

01:07:55.080 so you could,

01:07:55.840 you could go that far.

01:07:56.980 Okay.

01:07:57.520 But, you know,

01:07:58.220 that's even farther

01:07:58.940 than the Rhine.

01:08:00.140 Now, you know,

01:08:00.880 my view is farther east.

01:08:02.300 Now, my view is,

01:08:03.360 you know,

01:08:03.580 times have changed.

01:08:04.560 It's a different world.

01:08:05.320 It's not 1945 anymore.

01:08:07.120 And I think I know

01:08:08.040 where America has to draw

01:08:09.160 her red line 1.00

01:08:10.040 against Russian aggression.

01:08:12.860 That's the English channel.

01:08:14.580 Okay.

01:08:14.980 And when I say

01:08:15.680 the English channel,

01:08:16.620 like, I mean,

01:08:17.320 the English channel,

01:08:18.180 you know,

01:08:18.460 for example,

01:08:19.180 Oh my God.

01:08:20.220 Chandler crossed that line.

01:08:21.340 Most people don't know

01:08:22.180 that Chandler took Jersey.

01:08:23.840 Chandler took Sark.

01:08:24.820 Not New Jersey,

01:08:25.480 but Sark.

01:08:26.400 Okay.

01:08:26.640 So the thing is,

01:08:27.500 when I say the channel,

01:08:28.360 I mean the channel.

01:08:29.240 Hands off Sark,

01:08:30.300 Mr. Putin.

01:08:31.540 Okay.

01:08:31.900 If one,

01:08:32.640 one Russian.

01:08:33.420 No Sark.

01:08:34.440 You draw the line at Sark.

01:08:36.060 I draw the line at Sark.

01:08:37.520 The airspace. 0.99

01:08:38.260 We will shoot it down. 1.00

01:08:39.920 We will shoot it down, 1.00

01:08:41.000 Mr. Putin.

01:08:41.740 But the thing is,

01:08:42.400 do you want to clean up Paris?

01:08:44.820 I mean,

01:08:48.960 you're going to get,

01:08:49.980 and Malcolm's going to have to agree.

01:08:51.420 He's not a big fan.

01:08:53.260 And in fact,

01:08:53.860 how anti-German we are 0.57

01:08:55.060 and how anti-French we are.

01:08:56.500 And I'm like,

01:08:57.500 but why would we save them?

01:08:59.980 Like,

01:09:00.600 what have they given us

01:09:02.020 in the past 50 years?

01:09:03.420 And they're like,

01:09:03.960 oh,

01:09:04.080 the German people have a great,

01:09:05.700 and I'm like,

01:09:06.100 yeah,

01:09:06.300 and the great ones left.

01:09:08.680 No,

01:09:09.160 no,

01:09:09.360 no,

01:09:09.580 no,

01:09:09.740 no.

01:09:09.860 I totally disagree with that.

01:09:11.120 I think two things,

01:09:12.920 cars and wine.

01:09:14.060 Okay.

01:09:14.280 And also the space program.

01:09:15.680 Let's not forget,

01:09:16.880 let's not forget that,

01:09:17.980 you know,

01:09:18.200 when an American,

01:09:19.060 an American set foot on the moon,

01:09:21.160 that's true.

01:09:21.760 He was an American,

01:09:22.880 although he was a white man,

01:09:24.560 but,

01:09:24.800 you know,

01:09:25.400 it was the Nazi space program 0.70

01:09:26.720 that man on the moon,

01:09:28.580 you know,

01:09:29.220 and directed by the same director

01:09:31.680 von Avon Brown,

01:09:33.100 you know,

01:09:33.680 and so like,

01:09:34.760 basically.

01:09:34.800 Directed by the same,

01:09:35.600 wait,

01:09:35.760 was it the same people?

01:09:37.160 Yeah.

01:09:38.140 Oh yeah.

01:09:38.840 Oh yeah.

01:09:39.160 The army tried to have a program

01:09:40.880 of their own,

01:09:41.600 but their first rocket crashed,

01:09:43.040 and they were just like,

01:09:43.700 we're going to park

01:09:44.540 a couple of hundred

01:09:45.380 Nazi rocket scientists 1.00

01:09:46.640 in a la fucking Bama, 1.00

01:09:48.360 you know, 0.99

01:09:48.960 and not give them access

01:09:50.260 to any Jews or anything,

01:09:51.500 and they're going to put

01:09:52.800 a man on the moon,

01:09:53.860 an American on the moon,

01:09:55.140 you know,

01:09:55.860 but like a very blonde, 0.99

01:09:57.620 you know,

01:09:58.040 like, 0.97

01:09:58.580 like Nazi looking American. 0.98

01:10:00.420 Oh my God. 0.96

01:10:01.700 What's this?

01:10:03.600 The American space program,

01:10:04.860 the Apollo program,

01:10:05.660 it was directed

01:10:06.220 by Vanne van Brown.

01:10:07.160 That's why,

01:10:07.960 you know,

01:10:08.120 the Tom Lehrer lyrics,

01:10:09.520 like,

01:10:09.780 you know,

01:10:10.560 as the rockets go up,

01:10:12.280 who knows when they come down?

01:10:13.640 It's not my department.

01:10:15.020 Oh my God.

01:10:16.160 He was literally the director

01:10:17.680 of both the V2 program

01:10:19.100 and the Apollo program.

01:10:20.580 Oh,

01:10:20.780 there you go,

01:10:21.240 Malcolm.

01:10:21.760 That and Gevers Streaminer.

01:10:23.060 Yeah.

01:10:23.460 There you go.

01:10:23.960 That and Gevers Streaminer,

01:10:24.940 right,

01:10:25.240 you know?

01:10:25.580 Yeah.

01:10:26.000 You have too many,

01:10:28.060 you,

01:10:28.300 you are.

01:10:30.720 All this stuff is on Wikipedia,

01:10:33.160 right?

01:10:33.480 You know,

01:10:34.060 right?

01:10:34.780 He brings receipts,

01:10:36.260 Malcolm.

01:10:36.720 That's the problem.

01:10:37.280 I show you the receipts.

01:10:39.080 You check the receipts.

01:10:40.260 The receipts are real.

01:10:41.580 It's just nobody sort of

01:10:42.640 thinks about it.

01:10:43.440 Like,

01:10:43.660 you know,

01:10:44.300 nobody thinks that basically

01:10:45.640 like,

01:10:46.360 you know,

01:10:46.900 oh,

01:10:47.140 in the 60s,

01:10:47.780 what is the 60s?

01:10:48.640 The Apollo program

01:10:49.580 and the civil rights.

01:10:50.820 Okay.

01:10:51.740 Realizing that the Apollo program

01:10:53.180 is actually Nazi

01:10:54.320 and the civil rights

01:10:55.920 is literally Nazi

01:10:57.240 is literally Nazi

01:10:58.760 and the civil rights movement

01:11:00.580 is literally communist.

01:11:02.380 It's just like

01:11:03.260 beyond anyone's ken

01:11:04.680 when they process this period

01:11:06.100 and yet

01:11:06.500 it's literally true.

01:11:07.940 It's two clicks away

01:11:08.800 in Wikipedia.

01:11:09.960 I can't.

01:11:10.360 They're communists 0.67

01:11:10.960 and fascists

01:11:11.560 in different senses,

01:11:13.220 true,

01:11:13.700 but like,

01:11:14.220 you know,

01:11:15.220 like,

01:11:15.640 as,

01:11:15.980 you know,

01:11:16.380 so,

01:11:16.800 so it's fought. 1.00

01:11:17.400 You are a thought criminal. 0.72

01:11:19.100 The past isn't dead. 0.60

01:11:20.760 The past isn't dead.

01:11:22.460 It isn't even past.

01:11:23.900 I'm talking to an actual

01:11:28.780 thought criminal here.

01:11:30.360 I want to,

01:11:30.880 I want to be clear

01:11:31.920 that we don't endorse

01:11:33.660 any.

01:11:34.660 Absolutely not.

01:11:35.860 Absolutely not.

01:11:37.220 You can research yourself.

01:11:38.180 You're just,

01:11:38.540 you're just to have,

01:11:39.360 you know,

01:11:39.640 respectable,

01:11:40.480 clean,

01:11:41.060 um,

01:11:41.780 um,

01:11:42.140 you know,

01:11:43.940 the thing is,

01:11:44.580 you know,

01:11:45.140 there's no,

01:11:45.600 honestly,

01:11:46.060 there's,

01:11:46.420 there's no,

01:11:46.960 can we say the word?

01:11:47.880 There's no such thing

01:11:48.660 as eugenics.

01:11:49.380 Okay.

01:11:49.900 Eugenics is just an absence 1.00

01:11:51.180 of dysgenics.

01:11:52.260 It's not a belief.

01:11:53.220 It's the absence of the belief,

01:11:55.180 you know,

01:11:55.740 and,

01:11:56.200 and,

01:11:56.780 and this is another thing

01:11:57.980 from cladistics.

01:11:58.740 It's called the negative predicate.

01:12:00.720 Basically,

01:12:01.120 you don't want to say,

01:12:02.960 oh,

01:12:03.300 this is a type of animal

01:12:04.460 that doesn't fly.

01:12:05.940 Yeah.

01:12:06.840 And we're not,

01:12:08.140 not birds.

01:12:09.260 We're humans.

01:12:09.540 We're not,

01:12:09.920 not birds.

01:12:10.600 We're humans.

01:12:11.220 We're not genetically retarded. 0.92

01:12:12.620 We're genetically not retarded. 0.94

01:12:14.560 Well,

01:12:15.000 indeed,

01:12:15.840 indeed.

01:12:16.360 And as you know,

01:12:17.260 let me,

01:12:17.740 let me leave you with a couple

01:12:19.220 of different observations.

01:12:21.480 This is one.

01:12:22.080 Maybe I've shared this one.

01:12:24.360 Okay.

01:12:25.000 Maybe this is an observation

01:12:26.460 that you've heard before,

01:12:27.820 but you know,

01:12:28.500 as you know,

01:12:28.840 a lot of people believe

01:12:29.820 this old American idea

01:12:31.200 that all,

01:12:32.400 all men are,

01:12:33.140 are created equal.

01:12:34.100 And I'm just like,

01:12:35.160 what if that's not,

01:12:36.260 well,

01:12:36.480 you know,

01:12:36.700 what if it's like true in a sense,

01:12:38.160 but we could make it truer.

01:12:40.080 Yeah.

01:12:40.480 And I came up with a way

01:12:41.700 to make it truer.

01:12:43.580 Okay.

01:12:44.260 And that is we could,

01:12:45.300 instead we could say,

01:12:46.360 all identical twins

01:12:47.960 are created equal.

01:12:50.220 Isn't that true?

01:12:51.260 That's really,

01:12:52.020 really true.

01:12:52.660 That is really true.

01:12:53.600 It's not around the margins

01:12:54.460 of some differences,

01:12:55.280 right?

01:12:55.420 You can tell them apart.

01:12:56.440 Let me leave you 0.94

01:12:57.120 with something else,

01:12:58.200 which is,

01:12:58.820 since we've talked

01:12:59.600 about history,

01:13:00.720 this is a very short haiku

01:13:02.540 written about 30 years ago

01:13:04.100 on the internet

01:13:04.600 by some friends of mine.

01:13:05.740 I forget who wrote it.

01:13:06.600 I didn't write it.

01:13:07.380 And like all haiku,

01:13:09.700 it needs to start

01:13:10.720 with the essential

01:13:11.580 first line of a haiku,

01:13:13.120 which is the most

01:13:13.680 cliched line possible,

01:13:15.360 which is Sherry Blossom's Fall.

01:13:17.880 Of course.

01:13:19.260 Of course.

01:13:20.480 So let me leave you

01:13:21.680 with a short

01:13:22.500 yet resonant haiku

01:13:23.800 that you'll probably

01:13:24.820 not forget.

01:13:28.560 Sherry Blossom's Fall.

01:13:31.960 Three shots.

01:13:33.900 6.9 seconds.

01:13:35.940 Brains in Jackie's lap.

01:13:37.980 Oh, my God.

01:13:43.420 I'm sorry.

01:13:44.240 I'm sorry.

01:13:45.640 We need to go.

01:13:47.380 I need to get the kid.

01:13:48.800 Simone, stop laughing.

01:13:50.380 I can't believe

01:13:51.180 that kind of summer show.

01:13:52.980 You're a friend of the family.

01:13:54.960 Your kids are all right.

01:13:55.940 All right.

01:13:56.440 All right.

01:13:56.920 All right.

01:13:57.360 All right.

01:13:57.860 All right.

01:13:58.220 Come, come.

01:13:58.800 And it's so weird

01:13:59.760 that we haven't had you on yet.

01:14:01.420 And we'll be,

01:14:02.040 hey, we're going to be,

01:14:03.100 you know,

01:14:03.340 CNN only got 500,000 viewers

01:14:06.360 on like today.

01:14:07.760 So, you know,

01:14:08.620 getting 10,000 viewers

01:14:10.020 for episode ain't so bad.

01:14:12.280 That's bad.

01:14:13.180 All right.

01:14:14.040 All right.

01:14:16.300 This one.

01:14:17.420 Yeah.

01:14:17.840 It's okay.

01:14:18.600 We'll get it open for you.

01:14:20.240 Look.

01:14:22.180 I see mommy eggs.

01:14:24.280 Do you see any eggs?

01:14:25.720 We have one,

01:14:26.820 two new eggs.

01:14:28.220 Two eggs.

01:14:29.300 Yeah.

01:14:29.720 One, two,

01:14:30.480 two new eggs.

01:14:31.760 I will see the white. 0.98

01:14:33.720 Okay.

01:14:34.700 I see mommy eggs.

01:14:36.220 No, that's not a real egg.

01:14:37.580 This is a real egg, though.

01:14:39.140 Okay.

01:14:39.780 And then.

01:14:40.100 I want to hold it.

01:14:41.280 You want to hold it?

01:14:42.140 Yeah.

01:14:42.700 You promise to not drop it?

01:14:43.960 Mm-hmm.

01:14:44.840 Okay.

01:14:45.340 You have to hold very careful.

01:14:46.300 Two hands.

01:14:46.760 Two hands.

01:14:47.580 There you go, buddy.

01:14:49.640 All right.

01:14:50.040 Hold it with two hands

01:14:50.660 and take it inside.

01:14:51.320 Okay.

Based Camp - November 13, 2024

Curtis Yarvin： How Communists Created the Modern Democratic Movement

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