Curtis Yarvin： How Communists Created the Modern Democratic Movement
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Summary
On this week's episode, we discuss the history of the Black Panther Party, the early days of the civil rights movement, and the rise and fall of the Jim Jones Peoples Temple in Jonestown, Guyana. We also discuss the rise of AI and the impact it can have on our everyday lives.
Transcript
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Stanley Levison, leaves the Communist Party formally.
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He founds the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which is Martin Luther King's
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He manages King's organization and basically starts the civil rights movement.
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It is just a rebranding of the Communist Party USA.
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If you're graphing the social networks of the CPUSA, you will always find these like
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She's really the social queen of American communism.
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She marries this guy named Bob Truehoff and runs labor law firm.
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So when Hillary Clinton graduates from Yale Law School, where did she go to work first?
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And it's like Barack Obama's connection to Bill Ayers.
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It's just like, yeah, let's talk about how many degrees of separation connect Vice President
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He's the guy who killed all those people in South America.
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And we also are not told that Jim Jones was such a huge booster of the Soviet Union.
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The letter that Harvey Milk wrote to Jimmy Carter, defending Jim Jones' right to take this
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child who was claimed by his mother from his father and taken to Jonestown, who later dies
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I think a lot of people have realized his boyfriend who he raped and then, you know, killed himself.
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I really tried to find a good place to intro the script here.
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But the stuff said at the beginning keeps getting referenced later on.
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So you are going to get a stream of Curtis Yarvin thought in this.
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I think one of our better episodes just from an entertainment and informational perspective.
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If you don't know who Curtis Yarvin is, he's probably one of the most famous living political
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With the assistance of Eleven Labs, you can actually make me say things that I didn't,
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which opens up a really large new set of possibilities.
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You can, you can just catch in things and sound almost like the person.
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You know, the results is, this is just, it's a useful use of AI.
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You just make them say what they should have said, you know, cut out those, those Tourette's
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We're going to have you talk like a dastie in this entire interview.
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And then the person is, the poor person is forced to claim, you know, this ridiculous
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claim that these nice people, you know, edited their N-word into his track.
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And it's really, it's just a patently false claim.
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It's just like, my account was hacked, you know, right?
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Exactly, the Collinses, you know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm actually so glad that AI is getting this good, because I, when, when people catch me
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doing actually, like, horrifying stuff, I'm just going to be like, oh, that was AI.
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And actually, what people don't understand is that in the long run, it actually is a privacy
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It creates more privacy, because the result is basically, you know, seeing a video of
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someone now, in the future, is just going to be treated like you can, you know, it's
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like someone showing someone a text file and saying they wrote this text file.
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So, and he's like, oh, maybe they didn't, maybe they didn't, right, you know?
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So, the baby feasts, I thought that that was, like, our major, like, under the cover thing
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of It Get Live, that we feasted on babies on the, you know, the black moon.
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The whole protonatalism thing is just, just because the babies are born doesn't mean you
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I mean, have you ever seen a zucchini that's full grown?
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Actually, the zucchinis we buy in stores are baby zucchinis, right?
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It's a baby harp seal, which is actually in its lanugo, which is the hair.
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It grows within the womb, and it is beautiful, fluffy, fluffy, fluffy white stuff that works
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And it only lasts for, like, a couple of weeks.
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There's, like, a, you know, there's a resistance, apparently, to clubbing them at the moment,
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because they have these cute melting eyes, and they look up at you, you know, when they're
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on the ice before you, before you club them with these cute melting eyes, right?
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You know, and, of course, you know, the men who, I mean, and the men who club them, these
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These are, like, you know, people that even the French would reject, right?
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You know, and, and they're clubbing these cute baby animals to death.
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Very desensitizing, like, you can't trust a man like this in civilization ever again.
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You know, they need to be kept out on the ice, you know?
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And, and so, in any case, you used to be able to buy these fluffy seal skin coats made
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from baby seal, obviously suitable only for a woman, although, apparently, seal fur is
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So, at some, you know, at some point, you know, when I have actual money, I should try
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Antique used, used old fur is surprisingly cheap, right?
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So, maybe you can find, like, white coat baby harp seal, you know, which no one has to
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The seal has already been clubbed, you know, and, and, you know, no one is harmed by this.
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And it's, and you have this beautiful, like, fluffy coat.
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It's also, like, you smell weird after a while, and it's just not great.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I'm sure they can do the intro.
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I'm going to be talking about, it's actually primarily a video podcast.
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I, I had a supporter, you know, paid for me to get a very expensive haircut in, in New York,
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No, no, I know exactly what we're going to talk about.
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I want that whole speech about how Marxism is actually, like, this, how it became the
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culture of the ultra-affluent in the United States and how it took over that culture.
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And you, you had this conversation over breakfast and I was just like, this is brilliant.
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The first thing you have to understand about Marx is that Marx is an English gentleman.
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He is part of the European world of the early 19th century, which is a profoundly Anglophile
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And it is a profoundly Anglophile world, both because English-speaking culture is beautiful
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and amazing and so many great things have been created under English-speaking culture,
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Otherwise, we would all be speaking French, right?
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You know, we thought we beat Hitler so that we would not have to speak this hard language
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Actually, the defeat of Napoleon was the defeat of the sensitive and portly language of French.
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So, you know, essentially, you know, the sort of the prehistory of the 20th century is
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And like, you know, it's really, it's a relatively short amount of time.
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So, the, I believe, 13th president, John Tyler, who later, I believe, became a Confederate
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Now, only one, one of his grandchildren is alive today.
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So, you know, this is a guy born in the 18th century who was the 13th president of the
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Now, that is some serious longitudinal pro-natalism right there.
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Because it takes a couple of, you know, late in life childbearing experiences.
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Anyway, so, you know, my point is, this country ain't so old at all, right?
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And when you look back at kind of the 19th century, which really starts with the American
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and French revolutions, the rest of the 18th century is a very foreign degree to us, but
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And it's easier to explain in modern terms, of course, as it goes into the 19th, which
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is the area of shit-lib revolution, excuse me, of liberal revolutions.
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And that's another one of these cases where you edited 11 labs had something to do with
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You know, and in any case, the, so because of, you know, we can't ignore the role of
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You have like the Revolution Society in London, which is doing exactly the same thing as like
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the Soviet simps in 1930 or the Ukraine simps now, you know, they love that shit.
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And hugely romantic because you have this energy of like, it's this telescopic philanthropy
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that Dickens talks about, where you care more about the people far from you.
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Remember the heat map, you know, the heat map, the meme of the heat map.
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The heat map is something you see posted on certain areas of Twitter.
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I think I did a lot of, to popularize it, but it's actually from nature.
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And it's basically a publication which shows that when you basically compare the level of
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familial, the level of like concern for others that people have in conservatives, concern for
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Where like liberals like love rocks and like conservatives love their family.
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You know, and of course their love for rocks is an affectation and not real love.
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You know, I guess it's probably easier in some ways for a woman.
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But you know, our children are terrifically autistic.
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You might be surprised how much they love rocks.
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The thing is, the thing that I say about my, my almost two year old is that when you give
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it an object, he hasn't seen before, you always feel like he's observing it to see if it belonged
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That's exactly the vibe, but that is a funny way to say it.
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In any case, we go back to not actually believing in reincarnation.
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So the thing is, after, after the Battle of Waterloo, basically, in which is the first
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point in which England, you know, the, the unipolar order begins with the Battle of Waterloo.
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And because then England becomes kind of clearly world primus inter pares, at least on the seas.
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And that creates, you know, because of, you know, there was an Arab, Arab philosopher who's
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Oh, Osama bin Laden, who said, you know, by nature, when we see a strong horse and a
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So basically there's a couple of different ways in which let's call that Osama's rule.
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You know, and there's a couple of different ways in which Osama's law really, you know,
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kind of is relevant to the existence of the, like the shit lib and those like, or original
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I'm getting to understand how you got so canceled.
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And, and, and, and, you know, cause I can speak sensitively about a great Arab philosophers
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and, you know, the, the, the, that's so in any case, in any case, Marxism.
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So basically Marxism comes out of this world that Dickens is caricaturing with the telescopic
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philanthropy, specifically what Dickens is talking about, you know, in his little cameo of Mrs.
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Jellybee in Bleak House, who cares much more about liberating the natives of Boreal-Bula-Gah,
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you know, than her own children in her house, which she leaves uncleaned, is that she's
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characterizing a particular piece of kind of shit lib colonialism or missionary colonialism.
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As I say, one of my voice is not being faked by 11 labs.
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And, and, and this missionary colonialism is what rules the earth today.
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Basically, it's the spirit of the United fucking nations, which is also, you know, it's ultimately
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It's like this sort of Europeanization of basically originally British modes of thought that we can
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trace all the way back to the late 18th century.
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And so what happens is that sort of Anglophilic thought becomes, you know, deracinated, it becomes
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separated from its roots, roots in Christianity.
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And it basically becomes this kind of, but, but it still very much is rooted in, in not just
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Christianity, but like English mainline Protestantism, dissent or Protestantism is, is sort of its
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deepest roots, you know, going back to the 17th and even the 16th century.
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But, you know, it first becomes really visible in this kind of like, in this sort of poisonous
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And I think that Marx's real innovation was to basically kind of take, so if you look at the
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way the founders write, for example, about political parties, which they call factions,
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or even the way they use the word democracy, you know, the idea that say, you know, all
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rationalists, I bet you have a lot of rationalists out there.
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They all know about Duverger's law, which says that most political systems favor a two-party
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And if you told the people that wrote the constitution that the US would have a two-party structure
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for its entire operating period as a constitution, they would basically be like, wow,
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the constitution has actually been inside its operating engineering envelope for its entire
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time, because it's basically, you know, it's expecting like questions to actually be solved
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by like debate among statesmen in the Senate, right?
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It's like operating in a completely different universe than, you know, than it is today,
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And so there's no debate in the Senate, what the hell, right?
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You know, the House of Representatives, which is supposed to be the voice of the mob of the
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people of the turbulent orators, has a 99%, an 88% incumbency rate.
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And plus, it's an insane seniority system that is nowhere mentioned in any fucking constitution,
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It was like, it was written down by God, right?
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Given that around half of the people who watch our show are outside of America, I'm going
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So the founding fathers of America, when they were building the constitution, one thing that
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they were very concerned about was that a party system may end up forming in our country.
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And so they built the constitution to prevent that.
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Now, if you are familiar with American politics, you'd be like, but doesn't America have a very
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And it had one from almost the very first elections we held.
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So the American constitution failed within the lifetime of the founding fathers, and it
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has been operating outside its, meant to operate boundaries for a very, very long time.
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In addition to that, things like the Senate were supposed to be where smart people would
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go up and debate and compromise and come up with plans for things.
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We do not have, like, real debates where people are being swayed by other people's words on the
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And in our book, The Pragmatist Guide to Governance, or that piece that the Guardian did on our
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But the other thing that we point out is sometimes the form that a thing collapsed into is more
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stable than the state it was designed to operate within.
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I am reminded here of a collapsed cathedral where I went to college at St. Andrews, and the
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cathedral was in its collapsed state much longer than it was ever in its built state.
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And that's because the forms that things collapse into are often self-reinforcing if the building
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And I think that that's sort of what happened with the U.S. government.
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What Marx's innovation was, you know, that he was basically, he kind of looked at the violence
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and the conflict and the dysfunction that's inherent in these Republican forms of government
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Rather, it's kind of this, like, class war stage is something we have to go through.
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And so he's kind of goes from this kind of benevolent telescopic philanthropy to this kind
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of violent telescopic philanthropy, where he basically, he goes from wanting to civilize
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the nation, you know, the peoples of Borea Bulaga.
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And you know the word Niger, the Niger expedition.
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Thank you, Eleven Labs, for, you know, fixing that.
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They were going to basically civilize the natives of the lower Niger Delta and teach them to grow
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Ridiculous, you know, cartoon third world shit show.
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And so, you know, Marx goes from this sort of benevolent missionary imperialism to this
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kind of violent missionary imperialism, where you start to see people, like, getting actually
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excited by these kinds of barbarities that they sponsor and getting excited by the class
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It's the sort of extremely refined pleasure, which is, so it's sort of, it starts to become
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You know, if you basically supported Stalin in America in the 30s, right, you basically
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all, you always had this edge of, like, I'm so much more real for you than you, because
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I understand the need to kill people and you don't.
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And, like, I understand that you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.
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I understand, you know, in the follow-ups to this election cycle is a lot of leftists
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are like, we need to go back to being a party of the working class.
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But the working class is trans people, you know, like, I'm like, no.
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They were never, they were never, they were never a party of the working class.
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So the thing is, the idea that go back to is a complete illusion.
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Marx and going all the way back to Marx and his fucking sugar daddy fucking angles, you
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know, who, you know, ran a factory and supported this very, you know, profligate, you know, person
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Marx was a great writer, to be fair, really amazing writer, you know, and the, but like,
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you know, sort of reaching the barrier to that evil and like saying, no, this thing that
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you've called evil is actually both inevitable and in its own way good.
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And of course, Marx would love to play this game where he's like, well, I'm not really
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I'm not really excited by, you know, the, the, you know, talk of like, you know, gouging
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your eyes out and jacking off all of your corpse.
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It's just a metaphor, you know, that I'm like saying, you know, and like, like the, you
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know, he's like the creepy, you know, kid who writes the creepy short stories in the
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You know, and so, so he's doing this shooter vibe.
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And so the thing is you have these school shooter vibes that like extend all the way down
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Who's just like, you know, wants to kill like colonialists, right.
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And get some substantial amount of that work done.
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And, you know, people won't know this other character you named.
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He was, he was an anti-colonialist sort of early, basically woke thinker from the 1950s.
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No, some kind of Europe, you know, international European.
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And, you know, the funny thing about France Fanon is his name is not spelled F-R-A-N-Z.
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But it so happens that misspelling it Franz without the T is an error we find in both Barack
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Or the works credited to both of those authors.
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So, yeah, France Fanon is like universally, he's an early anti-colonialist thinker.
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And he's basically like, you know, kill the colonialist babies and rip them from their
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But like there's like heavy bloodthirsty energy there.
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For some examples of exact quotes, we have violence is a cleansing force.
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It frees the native from his inferiority complex and from his despair and inaction.
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It makes him fearless and restores his self-respect.
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For the native, life can only spring again out of the rotting corpse of the settler.
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At a level of individuals, violence is a cleansing force.
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He also argued that anyone who was a colonized person could enact any form of violence they
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wanted against people who he deemed as colonizers.
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Without any moral repercussions or moral downsides.
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And Obama is supporting him and Bill Maher is supporting him?
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According to many reliable, yes, reports, was Obama's mentor and wrote his books.
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And so we sort of, we see this trace of like this kind of sweet tooth for blood that appears
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And it's like they have a sweet tooth for power.
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And eventually, their kind of sweet tooth for power turns into a real sweet tooth for blood.
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Sorry, before you go further, because I want to make sure.
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This is the only episode where the guest talks more than me.
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I want you to talk about this because you're doing a very good job of connecting modern political
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figures with communists of the past, and over this breakfast where you were talking, you
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did a really good job of connecting Hillary Clinton and Marxism, as well as this, like,
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actor family in the 50s who were supposed to be Marxists, and then everyone thought they
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So the thing is that, you know, the separation between, like, you know, do you know the biological
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Cladistics is a concept in evolutionary biology that basically says, here is the only way to
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do categories in things that are descended in what's broadly called a genetic way, as
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So, for example, in both genes and languages, it is a classification error to have the classifications
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For example, if you have a category of animal that flies and you call it a bird-bat bug, a
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Similarly, if you have language, if you have a category that is a negative predicate, things
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that are not birds, that is also a false category.
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Actually, if you're really looking at the evolutionary structure, you realize that birds
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should be grouped with dinosaurs and not with bats.
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But any kind of naive thinking makes you confuse them with bats.
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Now, the thing is, when we're looking at, so that's one way of looking, when we use words
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like Marxist or liberal or whatever, that's one way of looking at what are the distinctions
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Another way of looking at, say, how do we use these words is saying, okay, let's look at
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So let's, for example, compare, say, the social graph of Democrats to the social graph of Republicans.
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In general, what we would see is that Democrats are tolerated at a Republican event, but Republicans
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We would see the same relationship with respect to Republicans and white nationalists.
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They would love to recruit some mainstream figures from the GOP.
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You know, let's say, you know, Kevin McCarthy showed up at a Klan rally.
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But if David Duke showed up at a GOP meeting, he would not be accepted.
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They would, let's say, Kevin McCarthy comes, he's in his, like, hood thing, you know, like
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You know, former House leader, actually also Grand Wizard, now it's not going to mask himself.
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He's been working for the organization all along, right?
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You know, so the thing is, when we establish that relationship between liberals and communists,
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Maybe some situations in which the communists exclude the liberals.
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There's no situation where you're, you know, they're just too much of a leftist to come
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Do you not realize that Mao killed 30 million people and you're wearing a Mao shirt?
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You can't realize that Shea Guevara was a murderer.
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So, you know, so what you're seeing is that that concept doesn't exclude, like, that's
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Now, the idea that you can't distinguish between a liberal and a communist, that there's
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no fundamental distinction, places you to the right of the whole Republican Party since
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the early 1950s, because, in fact, it even places you to the right of Joe McCarthy, because
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Joe McCarthy, of course, you know, insisted that you could tell the difference between
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Joe McCarthy was not out to purge the government of liberals.
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If he had been, he would have realized that he had a much harder problem and he was not
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actually solving the real problem that he was supposed to be solving.
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Let me give you a very specific, here's what you were fishing for.
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Let me give you a very specific example of this.
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Did I or did I not talk at this breakfast about the name Stanley Levison?
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I might have mentioned the name Stanley Levison.
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You know, in any case, in any case, you know, Stanley Levison.
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So, you know, one of the things that in order to maintain the separation between communists
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and liberals, you have to airbrush out of American history, is that America also has
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a civil rights movement in the 20s and the 30s.
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And that civil rights movement is unequivocally part of the Communist Party USA, which is at
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You know, the thing is, basically, the Highlander.
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So, the thing is, like, after the U.S., you know, the U.S. has a very different relationship
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with the Soviet Union in the 1930s than in the 1950s, okay?
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In between is the 1940s, when there are beloved brothers in saving the world from Hitler.
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Then suddenly, we go to war with them right after the war.
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The Korean War, we're fighting our old friends.
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This is basically what Orwell is talking about in the end of 1984, right?
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You know, somehow people just, like, retconned this stuff and weren't like, wow, it is super
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weird that we were allied with Stalin, and now Stalin is Hitler.
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And you read the newspapers from 1944, and they have to totally change their frickin' line,
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So, you know, let me give you another interesting fact.
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Stanley Levison, who might well have met my grandparents as a Jewish communist in New York
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Stanley Levison has, is a person who had two lives.
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So, and this is all, you know, extremely, well, this is not controversial in the slightest.
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This is all things that all historians agree on.
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They just don't really want you to talk about it.
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Until 19, he is essentially the CFO of the Communist Party USA.
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He is running its treasury, you know, and then in 1956, so the party has several steps in
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This was the non-aggression pact between the Nazis and the communists, or between Nazi Germany
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Sort of recovers from that not quite as well as it should have.
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Then the start of the Cold War damages it again, and the Korean War damages it, and the final
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blow that really renders it a totally fringe organization of no real relevance is 56 in
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the Hungarian Revolution and Khrushchev's secret speech in which he denounces Stalin.
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Leaves it really hard to be super faithful after that.
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Somehow my grandparents managed, and Mandy did not.
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In any case, in 1956, Stanley Levison decides, time for a new gig.
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It's not like he goes before McCarthy and tells the Senate everything.
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To be exact, he founds the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which is Martin Luther
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He finds this basically black dude who's gotten a PhD in plagiarism and has a rich, compelling,
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And basically starts the civil rights movement.
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And essentially Americans are never told that it is just literally a rebranding of the Communist
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They try to keep, there's other, you know, other leading figures are also leading communists.
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You know, and, you know, so essentially, you know, a few years after the, what the red
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stair does is it's essentially like removing your prostate when you have prostate cancer.
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Well, actually, no, it wasn't even removing the prostate.
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We're just going to like jab it 40 or 50 times with a toothpick.
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And, you know, what that's going to do is that's going to result in basically spreading cancer
00:33:10.640
And only by detailed DNA examination, can you see that this like pain you feel one day in
00:33:18.880
your shoulder, which is actually a tumor growing in the marrow, that's going to crack your bone
00:33:22.760
open, you know, like you're reading ribs is actually something that came from your prostate.
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And that's what, that's a result of the red scare, not going far enough.
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Hold on quick side note, because when I was researching this, the way that you really convinced
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me is you're like, look up the, the, the web, the Wikipedia article.
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Look at the, look up the Wikipedia for Stanley Levison.
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It tells you that he created the Southern Christian leaders, Christian Leadership Council.
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Look up the Wikipedia page for the Southern Christian Leadership Council.
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That's like one of your like, do you know when like Truman and the Truman show sees that
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like there's like the edge of the world is actually like made of like pieces of canvas
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and they're like stitches in the canvas, right?
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You know, the thing is, so here's another fact that you may not be aware of.
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I'm just going to, I'm going to inflict this on you, Malcolm.
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Well, you know, the thing is, what's funny is my, my grandparents who I know only through
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my parents were actual card carrying members of the Communist Party USA for 50 years.
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I'm not sure we'd have another cards, but I'm sure they had actual cards.
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Communists during this period, you had to buy and pay a subscription for membership to
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the party and you were not considered a member if you were not paying.
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And you could have your card taken away if you got in trouble with the party.
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And this could, if you were in some industries like in Hollywood, absolutely destroy your
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The word that they always used, they always used two words.
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They used the word communist and they used the word progressive.
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The word progressive was used universally to avoid outing people for any member or supporter
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Before then you have like Teddy Roosevelt, who's actually kind of more of a fascist, right?
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One thing you can go back and read to convince yourself of this is two wonderful publications.
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Beautifully archived on marxists.org, since we're on a Marx kick today.
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And, and it's basically The New Yorker, but for communists in the 1930s, which is to say
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The New Yorker basically, but a little more doctrinally orthodox.
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You know, and the other is The Communist, which is the journal of the communist party
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And you can look at those and you can see the way they use the word progressive.
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And you can see the way that is basically a term for like one of us.
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If you've seen the term, it means slash our guys for Marxists when they had to be a little
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bit in the closet, only a little bit in the thirties.
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And so essentially as the old left, which is a centralized organization under the CPUSA,
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becomes the anarchic, metastatic, decentralized, universal new left, which becomes wokeism or
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It's like, you can trace this route back to the twenties and thirties.
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Moreover, if you've heard of the practice, if you've heard of the practice, well, let me
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just finish because I'm just, I'm really trying to blow your minds as hard as I can at this
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Just to finish this practice of canceling people is actually a communist party practice.
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So for example, in 1946, 46, I think, Stalin, because the Cold War is starting breaks with
00:37:11.720
the American leadership of the communist party USA, which is under a man, Earl Browder, amazing
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Earl Browder has this wonderful line, which he says, communism is as American as apple pie,
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In any case, in any case, you know, Browder is running basically the popular front line,
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The easiest way to break it is to fire the head of the CPUSA from Moscow.
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This is highly disturbing to Americans, but nonetheless, it gets done.
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He has to be accused of something and his people have to be accused of something.
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And one of his people is this woman named Bella Dodd, who unlike Stanley Levinson actually
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really does break with the party, goes, you know, to the FBI, et cetera, tells everything
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she knows, writes a book called School of Darkness, very interesting book.
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By the way, I told you this would be an entertaining topic.
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I mean, and I was, I've been wondering why, like, because it's still, like, I couldn't
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get, like, wait, why, why is Black Lives Matter so Marxist?
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And it's like, oh, no, the guy who was the communist guy is then just decided to do,
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Is that Black culture used to be, if you go back to the 60s, it had half the number of
00:38:42.460
Right, and it's just because, like, a bunch of communists were like, we now own civil rights.
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It is because Martin Luther King sold out the Black culture by acting as a mouse piece
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The guy who used to be the treasurer of the American Communist Party.
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Then just did all this speech writing and, oh, my gosh, that is, like, wow.
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By the way, Curtis Yerven, he's not like the other guests we've had on.
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Curtis Yerven, it's like us setting back and he's, like, having a rant.
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No, you haven't heard his connections with Hillary Clinton yet.
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So, like, I love that, like, Curtis Yerven, you know, he comes on.
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We're, like, trying to prep him to, like, do, like, an intro.
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No, he just has to, like, drop truth bomb after truth bomb.
00:40:40.520
But, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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I was like, oh, I could do a good episode on this.
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Yeah, but you're, like, there were so many receipts.
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Like, it started, we're, like, cold acquaintances.
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I feel very comfortable calling him a friend now.
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All right, so I was telling the story of Bella Dodd, right?
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You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, right?
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And what's interesting is how they get rid of her, though,
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It was racial chauvinism, or white chauvinism, maybe.
00:41:43.780
But basically, she was accused of being racist to her...
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where you could be cancelled for racism, you know,
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And so, you know, you can go and find, basically...
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It's just like people write these fucking books
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There's this insane book that W.E.B. Du Bois wrote.
00:43:11.140
By the way, Simone described this when you were gone,
00:43:37.480
is that basically, like, QAnon is right in spirit.
00:43:55.580
You know, it's like, I was seeing someone writing
00:44:01.700
and, like, the whole, like, rupture with reality.
00:44:36.780
It actually turns out that all the moms are robots
00:44:46.220
Like, it was, like, oh, we're just, like, lying.
00:44:52.800
no one knows where the six feet thing came from.
00:44:58.540
that social distancing just, like, came out there?
00:45:03.500
I heard somewhere that it was part of some, like,
00:45:35.080
part of the resistance to declaring it airborne
00:46:13.860
and modifying to them to see if we can make them
00:46:23.020
trying to get that past, like, a venture capitalist,
00:46:26.200
Like, Marc is suddenly in charge of funding science, right?
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And you're just like, well, I think what we need to do
00:46:57.900
That's just a little too weird, don't you think?
00:46:59.920
And then they ask those scientists, they're like,
00:47:01.360
you work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab.
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Oh, because there's a coronavirus loose in Wuhan.
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I don't get why anyone thought that was a good idea.
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this wonderful Steven Soderbergh film, Contagion,