Based Camp - Deciphering the Progressive Religion： Environmentalism, Trans, & Anti-Semitism

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone! I am excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be tackling and

00:00:06.940 trying to work our way through something that I see as particularly an interesting mystery,

00:00:13.120 that I don't know if I have a formal thesis on what's causing it yet. But it is when I look at,

00:00:20.680 you know, the urban monoculture from which, you know, modern leftist culture derives itself,

00:00:25.680 where it holds beliefs that I would say appear to an outsider to be borderline theological,

00:00:34.040 and it is a sin to go against these particular beliefs. Most frequently, these beliefs fall

00:00:41.960 into a few categories. Environmentalism is a really big one. Another one is trans politics is a really

00:00:50.480 big one. And then another one is genetics is a really big one. And I'm, I'm like, actually, like,

00:00:59.140 sort of surprised, because not all of these things are like intrinsic to a leftist worldview,

00:01:06.120 how they arrived and consolidated around these particular areas, where they most frequently

00:01:13.180 say things that just like, on face value, or was like the littlest bit of research are not true.

00:01:19.340 You know, this can be, you know, in genetics, it's like, well, everyone has exactly the same

00:01:24.680 capabilities. And it's like, they very obviously don't like if you if you do even the basis look

00:01:30.080 at science, some of our proclivities and traits have a heritable component, like that's a weird

00:01:35.500 thing to claim. Then people can be like, Oh, well, this is like downstream of like fears about like

00:01:40.560 Nazism, and eugenics and stuff like that. And I'm like, maybe, but it's weird that it's so core to the 0.83

00:01:48.460 way they see the world. And then was environmentalism. There's this form of not real environmentalism,

00:01:54.520 but aesthetic environmentalism, I persistently see them retreat to, you know, where they're taking

00:01:59.640 down like nuclear power plants in Germany, despite their only other source of energy being like Russian

00:02:05.780 oil, which is like, obviously dirtier, but like, as environmentalists, we're anti nuclear, like, and

00:02:11.300 and it's not just that. It's also like when I mentioned something like this is like reporters

00:02:16.860 frequently have like a visceral reaction. When I tell them fertility collapse will affect people's 0.95

00:02:24.380 lives more in the next hundred years than global warming will. And they're like, are you sure you

00:02:30.020 don't want to restate that? Like they see this as like an absolutely insane thing to say. Like I'm

00:02:36.680 saying the sky is red when I say, yeah, it's not the most important thing. Or they're like, well,

00:02:43.000 don't you care about like a huge collapse in the number of species, you know, like a mass extinction.

00:02:49.000 And I'm like, a mass extinction is bad. Like, it's not awesome. There are consequences of a mass

00:02:54.720 extinction. They're not existential consequences. Like it's, it's, it's, it's bad. Like it's not great.

00:03:01.720 Like I'm not aiming for it, but it's not, you know, threatening to human survival or even the

00:03:08.800 existing way that we structured our civilizations in the way that they seem to be like implying it

00:03:14.920 is. And I don't think that they really believe it is either. They're not afraid of a mass extinction

00:03:19.200 because of humans are afraid of a mass extinction because the mass extinction matters. So as somebody

00:03:25.540 who used to, I think you maybe used to genuinely hold some of these beliefs. Maybe you can explain to

00:03:29.780 me sort of how they work and where they're coming from. I think maybe a lot of people steeped in the

00:03:38.840 urban monoculture, super progressive, modern religion have this modern version of noblesse oblige in that

00:03:47.420 they're indoctrinated in that leads them to believe that their purpose is to protect anything that is

00:03:57.400 perceived as less capable of defending itself than they are. That the last person for them to defend

00:04:06.900 is anything close to them because they come from this position of privilege. So it's different from

00:04:13.260 the old concept of noblesse oblige, which I think had a little bit more of a self-preservation instinct.

00:04:18.300 This one's a more like suicidal form of noblesse oblige, if that makes sense. That's just like,

00:04:23.020 I don't matter. I am wretched and I must protect all that, which is relatively more defenseless.

00:04:30.560 That's a really interesting point. So essentially they ascribe automatic moral value to whatever

00:04:36.540 they perceive to be the weaker party. Which greater victimhood holds higher moral value. And that is

00:04:43.400 indeed, I think why oppression Olympics kind of went out of hand because I think some people have a

00:04:48.280 deeper instinct to still want to be at the top of a dominance hierarchy. And they realized intuitively

00:04:53.040 that they could only be at the top of the dominance hierarchy by being more of a victim.

00:04:56.660 And that's why you get everything from people playing oppression Olympics to wealthy to middle-class

00:05:02.860 teenage girls becoming spoonies and playing oppression Olympics by getting sick.

00:05:07.960 Yeah. That part explains where you get this like invented trans identity. And I think that 0.99

00:05:12.580 like the, the, the, the, well, it also explains why in those heat maps, for example, and sort of

00:05:19.180 research of the progressive versus conservative brain, progressives hold more things as having

00:05:25.620 moral weight that are not their family, their immediate community in themselves.

00:05:30.920 That makes sense. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense actually.

00:05:36.220 But there's more than just that. I think there's an inherent distrust of advancement

00:05:42.620 and the concept of manifest destiny or conquering the natural world. And I think this is why among

00:05:50.240 progressive circles, the book sapiens took on so much. I've never heard a conservative talk about

00:05:55.680 sapiens. Yes.

00:05:57.000 And, and be like, Oh, sapiens.

00:05:59.220 My dad.

00:05:59.700 And like a big, a big aspect or thesis of sapiens. So it's admittedly been almost 10 years since I've

00:06:06.300 first read it is that it made me so angry. It's just wrong. It just talks about how everything kind of

00:06:15.440 went downhill after agriculture and our teeth got horrible and we'd lived in stressful environments

00:06:19.820 and we'd lived in diseased cities and it was just, Oh, it was so bad. And like, Oh, somehow our hunting

00:06:24.700 gathering period was so wonderful. And I think the reason why that resonated so much with educated

00:06:31.180 progressive audiences is that there is this inherent mistrust of modernity and of conquering,

00:06:40.580 for example, nature. And I think this is also seen in the contrast between the way that

00:06:44.720 conservatives have historically engaged with the environment and conservation versus how

00:06:50.660 progressives have engaged with the environment. So conservatives are all like, yes, conservation,

00:06:55.800 like let's go out hunting. Like let's go out camping. Let's enjoy conquering nature and protect

00:07:00.900 it so we can keep conquering it again. Cause it's so our training simulator. We can't disrupt it.

00:07:07.340 Yeah. Like let's, let's keep it around. Cause it's really, really great. And then progressives are

00:07:12.060 more like, no, let's tear down our nuclear plants, our modernity. Let's tear down our cities. Let's tear down

00:07:18.600 our modern infrastructure. In some cases, it's literally, you know, engage in degrowth and tear

00:07:23.680 down our economies and civilization to let nature take back over. And of course the extreme version

00:07:29.600 of this is antinatalism. Wouldn't it be great if a comet wiped out all humans? Wouldn't it be great 0.70

00:07:34.220 if all humans died? Which is surprising of our progressives believe when we did our survey in 0.95

00:07:38.500 the United States, 17% of our respondents said the world would be better without any humans.

00:07:42.260 Let's continue. Sorry. Yeah. But that's the, I think that it's that combination of this modern

00:07:50.020 noblesse oblige. I am wretched and everything outside me that it, that has higher victim on

00:07:55.100 its status or less agency is more important. It takes precedence over my needs. And remember you,

00:08:00.460 it took you like seven years to convince me that I was not the dumbest, lowest value person 0.96

00:08:09.560 of everyone. Like this was deeply ingrained in me and it took so much work on your part to convince 0.81

00:08:16.580 me that. Spectacular. And I was like, no, you are spectacular. You are one of the most desirable

00:08:22.360 humans on earth and one of the most talented humans on earth. And I just like, like literally though,

00:08:27.720 I mean, I would see someone, you know, who had a lot, like very serious problems and just assume that

00:08:33.300 they were better, smarter, more agentic than me. Like it was, it was, I think some people will hear

00:08:37.880 that and be like, I don't know. She's a four. She's mid. She's not what Malcolm says. He's wearing

00:08:41.660 husband goggles. No, this was actually dysmorphic. I'm not saying, hold on. I'm not even talking about

00:08:47.980 attractiveness here. I'm talking about competence. Intelligence, competence. Yeah. Agency, all of that.

00:08:52.940 I thought that I was lesser and more wretched. And so like, if anyone were to say something like,

00:08:58.640 well, that's not true, right? I just, I just like, okay. And that was, and I, and I played this game

00:09:04.540 at Stanford when she went to Cambridge because I sent her there for gorgeous. I was like, okay,

00:09:08.400 Cambridge is like the best place. Right. And I was like, every day, you got to tell me if you met

00:09:11.740 anyone smarter than yourself, because you were at least able to judge that, like, like more interesting

00:09:16.100 starter than yourself. And she just never did. And I was like, okay, so this is supposedly where the

00:09:19.900 smartest and best people in the world, like go, if you're not finding people better than you here.

00:09:25.900 And now, you know, we get invited to events like Hereticon and stuff like that. Right.

00:09:30.540 Where like some of the wealthiest people in the world, you know, who run like major funds and

00:09:35.560 stuff like that. Like it's really run by Mike Solana and Peter Thiel. They, they go out and

00:09:39.040 they invite like whoever they think is changing the world most. So it's bringing together like

00:09:43.200 literally from a top down, like the most agentic people. I mean, I'd say like was in that environment

00:09:48.380 of the women in that environment, you're easily in the top 50% in, in terms of, I I'd say like 1.00

00:09:54.600 intelligence and agency and interestingness. And so that's wild because that's already

00:09:58.720 like a super pre-selected crowd. And, and so I think that, yeah, you, you really struggled

00:10:05.320 to be like, oh, I'm actually like, you know, competent. Right.

00:10:09.240 And I think that's pretty pervasive in this culture. And that's another important part of

00:10:14.160 this.

00:10:14.980 This really interesting, actually, because the culture values a lack of status so much like

00:10:21.520 a victimhood mindset so much that it doesn't really give you the tools to see yourself as

00:10:27.100 anything, but to see yourself as something other than like, you're, you're only supposed

00:10:32.980 to go into everything expecting the least of yourself, which is, I have a story. I remember

00:10:41.620 about this, that, that you would find comical Simone, which is the first time I went to buy

00:10:48.340 condoms. I was like, well, I'm like a normal, whatever person. So I should buy small condoms,

00:10:56.180 which now around a lot. I'm like, oh, that was a very, very big mistake.

00:11:03.800 It must've been a deeply uncomfortable thing to discover when you just immediately broke.

00:11:08.120 But that's what I thought because I was like, oh, you know, I'm average. I'm not even average to

00:11:16.180 assume I'm average is to assume too much of my, I must be a little below average. Right. You know,

00:11:21.520 because that's, I think you're right. Yeah. We're taught that that's a value to not have pride in

00:11:26.620 yourself. No, it's, I don't know. It's not even. So to a certain extent, we're taught to value

00:11:34.900 things that are lesser and victimy, but we, we are also demoralized. And I think some people end

00:11:42.140 up playing oppression Olympics because they, they put the two together. They're like, oh,

00:11:46.460 I'm demoralized, but also I can leverage this to gain status. I never made that connection.

00:11:51.900 You never made that connection, but some people do underground connection, you know, that, that

00:11:58.640 is rewarded subconsciously, but a lot of people don't realize, because I think a lot of people

00:12:03.540 like, like genuinely, I think the vast majority of trans people do not realize that they are

00:12:07.700 being treated with a special degree of status within urban monoculture environments. They,

00:12:13.440 they genuinely are unable to see the systemic privilege they have over cis people. They, they genuinely

00:12:20.040 think that, that like what's going on around them is a form of oppression. And I think it's because

00:12:25.200 they see you, you remember, there's a great chart of women and, and men progressives, right. But,

00:12:32.220 but women specifically who today think that being a woman severely damages the prospects of being 1.00

00:12:38.740 successful in life. Well, I think people have come to equate literally life, just being hard,

00:12:43.500 sometimes being alive, being hard, sometimes to oppression. No, no, no, no, no. So over 50% of

00:12:50.320 progressive women, I remember we were looking at a chart, think that women are systematically 1.00

00:12:54.140 discriminated against when it comes to getting into college. Like that's insane considering women 1.00

00:13:01.360 make up like the vast majority of college goers these days, right? So here you can see two graphs

00:13:06.660 titled trends and perceptions of discrimination against women amongst 12th graders by sex and ideology,

00:13:10.800 1976 to 2022. And you can see that female liberals, the purple line here to the question, 1.00

00:13:16.820 to what extent do you think your sex will prevent you from getting the kind of work you would like to

00:13:20.420 have went from around 40% in 2010, which is ridiculously high, but whatever, um, to 75% as of like

00:13:30.660 2024 or 2022. Like why is it going up so much? They're just being brainwashed. And you can see in other

00:13:37.700 groups, it's going down. Then in perceptions of discrimination against women, again, you see it

00:13:42.460 going way up after the 2010s in both, uh, male liberals and female liberals. Like they think,

00:13:49.540 oh yeah, women, they have it so hard in college because it's so, you know, maybe because they're, 1.00

00:13:54.920 they, they make up a larger portion of the population or something in college. I don't know.

00:13:59.380 I could see college being harder with more women being present. 1.00

00:14:02.440 Yeah. But, but the reality is, is that actually, no, it was always the dudes on the group projects

00:14:08.840 who made life miserable. They did. Yeah. That is an interesting point.

00:14:16.380 I want the Lisa Simpsons, you know, I want, I want other people who are as like

00:14:19.360 do goody as I was, I hated the dead weight. Screw you guys. 0.96

00:14:25.280 Then you get me on a group project and I always just like, all right, this is how we're going to do. 0.98

00:14:29.060 I was actually really good at that stuff. You, you, you were a major, like you did

00:14:34.100 disproportionately. You were very unusual. Oh, not, not even that. I was very good at

00:14:39.540 splitting up work and making sure people did. You made them functional. You weren't, you weren't

00:14:43.140 like the, you weren't the girl who was just like, oh, I'll do it all. And everyone else just is quiet.

00:14:48.280 You were like, you do this, you do this. But you also like, because you did that,

00:14:51.320 you were disproportionately doing more work.

00:14:53.320 Hmm. I guess I never felt that way. I was taking more rewards. I'll tell you that.

00:14:59.140 I know I, I, in college, I was running like every society. I was like president simultaneously of like

00:15:06.360 multiple large societies on campus and no one had ever done that.

00:15:10.120 Leaders know how to recognize talent and leverage it and delegate. Well, that's good.

00:15:16.340 I guess I wanted power or whatever. Like I, I, I liked doing it. There's that. I wanted it for

00:15:21.820 my resume to get a power hunger had nice negative externalities with negative externalities or

00:15:28.120 positive externalities. Nice, positive externalities.

00:15:32.040 But okay. Let's focus on environmental stuff. Like I still don't fully, I guess what you're saying

00:15:39.600 is that environmentalism from a progressive perspective, they see like imperialism is bad.

00:15:44.000 Like the expansion of European culture and was it industrialization is bad.

00:15:48.520 Progress, just human intervention. And I, I actually think, so we, we talk about antinatalism

00:15:55.300 and anti-human sentiment as being a novel advent. I, I think it is, it has deeper and older roots

00:16:02.280 than that. And I think that it was first manifested as a hatred of human advancement, imperialism and

00:16:10.160 manifest destiny. That it ultimately was about anti-human sentiment and this, this resentment of

00:16:15.520 humans conquering nature and conquering natural environments. And that, that, that looped into

00:16:23.060 environmentalism and was combined with this, I think Christian derived, but I'm going to say

00:16:30.620 corrupted Christian sentiment derived adoration of victimhood. 0.74

00:16:37.340 I don't know if the victimhood adoration, I, like a lot of people have made this claim that it comes

00:16:44.500 downstream of Christian culture or like Protestant culture. I don't know if I believe that.

00:16:49.860 Why? On what grounds?

00:16:52.580 So it seems to work all by itself without the Christian culture. You know, you, 1.00

00:16:58.380 I wasn't certainly from Christian culture.

00:17:00.880 You want to protect the weakest thing. Cause that's how you prove that you were the best,

00:17:05.540 right? Like you're not doing anything wrong, you know? And it comes from, if you just make this

00:17:10.500 mindset where like, well, the Gazans are weaker, therefore they're in the right. And you're like, 0.61

00:17:16.060 well, they do like torture gay people. Like, are you okay with that? And they're like, well, 0.99

00:17:20.220 they don't because a weak person can't be evil. Like there's this understanding that, that the morality

00:17:27.700 of a group is, is there's never like a case in which a weak person is a bad person.

00:17:36.380 And, and there's never a case in which a weak community or group is abusing other communities.

00:17:43.160 No matter their crimes. And if their crimes were horrendous, well, it was because of what we've done.

00:17:48.660 Well, I mean, you see, this is the grooming gangs and the great gangs of, of, of the Muslims that you 1.00

00:17:52.920 have around Europe right now, they're like really prevalent and like capture and great lots of girls 0.99

00:17:57.620 or the case in the United States where you had a group of black teens who invited over a white teen

00:18:03.720 was like mental disabilities and like beat him near to death or something. And like the progressives 0.96

00:18:07.500 were like cheering this as like a, Oh, you know, you know, like them winning, like you keep seeing

00:18:13.780 this of, of well, because they're in X group. And obviously the real weaker person is the white, 0.88

00:18:20.500 the real weak old person or the, the Israelis who were captured. The real weaker person is the 1.00

00:18:25.900 person who happens to be born gay in Gaza, but it is the, I think a larger community. Like they're

00:18:31.500 not able to see this on the individual level. They try to look at the community level in terms of

00:18:37.780 how they structure this ideology and then say, okay, so the weaker individual at the community level

00:18:43.620 is the individual that's deserving of, of, of higher status. And therefore we just assume that

00:18:47.580 everything they're saying is right. It's very much like the, you know, believe all women thing 0.99

00:18:51.120 and stuff like that. Right. Like including Israeli women who were being graped in, in, in Gaza. Well,

00:18:56.600 not them, you know, they're not, you know, so the way it sorts, I'm trying to think like hierarchically

00:19:01.840 how it sorts where this also comes to, you know, whether it's genetics or culture thing, but like

00:19:06.260 genetically and culturally, we're all the same. There's no differences in us. And this explains where you,

00:19:12.180 and I've mentioned this in previous episodes, but it's worth reiterating why the urban monoculture

00:19:15.600 always ends up turning to antisemitism and against the Jews, because it explains all human

00:19:20.380 differences because it doesn't believe in genetics and it doesn't really believe in cultural differences

00:19:23.900 in proficiency. It believes all differences in groups must come from one group discriminating

00:19:29.240 against another group or exercising some form of like, you know, power over another group or cheating

00:19:35.580 in some way. And so, you know, because Jews disproportionately succeed in economic and academic context,

00:19:41.260 they must be cheating. Right. Right. Right. And I think that, that at the end of the day, 0.77

00:19:46.780 so long as Jews have the Jewish exceptionalism, i.e. achieving at an unusual rate within multiple 0.63

00:19:51.980 fields, they will be seen as the core oppressor group, especially due to their smaller size.

00:19:57.280 Cause they're like, well, look at their differential success in smaller size and they don't fit into any of

00:20:01.800 our special categories. So, you know, we need to get rid of them. And I think that many people were

00:20:06.400 surprised how hard the urban monoculture turned against the Jews. And they expect this to be a 0.98

00:20:09.780 short-lived phenomenon tied to this war that they're having right now. And I don't think it

00:20:14.360 is. I think it's a, it's a going to be a persistent shift. Yeah. Dear. Well, well, I mean, it's, it's,

00:20:20.500 it's good more broadly because it brings the Jews who believed that the progressives were their friends

00:20:26.760 into the sort of new right cause into the pronatalist cause into the, you know, the persistent alliance.

00:20:33.140 I think it's causing two things. I think it's causing some reformed Jews who are progressive to 1.00

00:20:38.180 completely disown their association. Yeah.

00:20:42.760 Yeah. They'll, they'll be gone soon anyway.

00:20:45.760 Yeah, probably.

00:20:46.720 And then what's the other thing?

00:20:48.660 And, and yeah, the, the, the rest will just drop, but I don't know. I think it's really hard

00:20:55.160 for some people to accept that they're no longer part of the urban monoculture. There's a lot of fear

00:21:04.180 around that. Yeah. That the urban monoculture has turned on. Well, I think it's, you know,

00:21:08.340 you were talking about this and some people on blue sky, you were trying to be like, well,

00:21:11.520 the Collins's aren't really that bad because we weren't viral on there recently. And, but they're,

00:21:15.640 they're progressive. Right. And so they're trying to explain this and they, they dealt with like

00:21:19.980 major cognitive dissonance. It's when it was like, what, why, why is this happening? You know?

00:21:24.080 And, oh my God, this is like, actually like a, what is that? What? There was like a white line

00:21:32.400 on my glasses. Oh, this is, this is actually like a thing that's happening. And I think that the,

00:21:41.040 the reason is, is because especially some women, and this is where I see this happening the most, 1.00

00:21:45.180 have such a like instinctual desire to fit in with whichever the dominant culture is.

00:21:50.340 They struggle to think outside of that box.

00:21:57.000 Yeah. Specifically an argument that she was trying to make was that they were saying, well,

00:22:01.320 they've, they've been to conferences with bad people. They didn't use that word. They used

00:22:07.500 other words, but not just with bad people. Therefore they are bad people. And she's like, 0.58

00:22:13.340 well, how are you going to change the minds of bad people if you never talk to them? And they're like,

00:22:17.420 wow. But then she, she felt like somehow that that was a weak argument. It's not a weak argument.

00:22:23.500 Like you really, if you don't engage with people that you disagree with, how are you ever going to

00:22:27.800 like, you know, expose them to ideas that might change their minds? And, and yet she somehow was

00:22:34.380 like, well, I was a dumb idea. I can't believe I said that. That's embarrassing. You know? 0.98

00:22:38.800 The urban monoculture really protects itself by creating a cultural norm around not engaging with

00:22:46.440 outside ideas and not exposing yourself to outside ideas. And I, and that's what we're seeing here is

00:22:51.900 this, it is a very powerful norm from like, I think it's about social contagion, just like there's

00:22:56.820 something, and I don't understand it. There's something going on with social contagion.

00:23:01.480 No, no, no. The point being Simone is that the urban monoculture has developed a pattern

00:23:06.340 of isolating anyone who might have engaged with an outside idea. That's what they're trying to do

00:23:11.500 to us. They're like, oh, these people appear to be immune to our cultural virus. These people appear

00:23:16.940 to be able to engage with outsiders. If they engage with outsiders, they might bring some idea into this

00:23:23.740 larger memetic cluster, which is dangerous to it. So we can't engage with them. The easiest way to

00:23:29.820 protect your ideology is to never engage with the, the ideas of the people you disagree with.

00:23:37.780 And I think that that's what's happening there. And this is why, you know, you persistently see,

00:23:42.440 you know, in studies that have looked at this is that conservatives have a much easier time

00:23:45.340 modeling progressives than the other way around is that they, they, they literally build a wall.

00:23:50.320 And that's one of the most interesting things about debating with progressives on, you know, 0.95

00:23:54.300 policy or whatever, is they're like, you guys are, are Nazis and racists. And it's like, well, I mean, 0.69

00:24:01.140 right. You know, this is just like, as you're going to lock up women and re-enslave black people. 0.99

00:24:07.400 And it's like, well, that hasn't happened. Right. So that doesn't appear to be where we're going. 0.92

00:24:11.320 And they really struggle with the idea that the world that we're living in, you know, under the

00:24:19.220 Trump administration, isn't the world that, that they said we're fighting against the Trump

00:24:25.200 administration to prevent, right? Like their, their, their idea of the other side is so fictionalized

00:24:32.300 that they have trouble engaging with it in any way, but it needs to be fictionalized because if they did

00:24:38.500 engage with it, they'd understand that the urban monoculture is at its core, very imperialistic.

00:24:45.200 Yeah. Well, I mean, it is, it's, it's, you know, I was talking with a reporter recently and I was

00:24:50.060 like, okay, so, you know, you understand when I talked to somebody in the urban monoculture and I'm

00:24:55.160 like, well, the people in Africa who you claim to love so much, you know, they have very different

00:24:58.900 rules around gender roles in marriage and very different rules around a woman's role and very

00:25:03.880 different ideas around, you know, gay people and very different views on what's like moral and 1.00

00:25:10.240 what should happen after death, et cetera. And, and, and they are thinking in their heads, well,

00:25:14.860 I mean, of course, one day, you know, every one of their churches will be flying the, what do we

00:25:20.100 call the colonizer's flag, you know? And, and this is the new weird pride flag. Every church in Africa 0.94

00:25:29.580 is going to be flying this and they're all going to have our idea about gender roles in marriage. 1.00

00:25:32.720 And they're all going to have our idea about how you should raise your children, you know,

00:25:35.200 corporal punishment, if that's what they do now, they're, they're all going to have our idea around,

00:25:38.800 you know, gay, you know, they're all going to have our idea about everything. Right. And it's like, 1.00

00:25:42.620 well, they functionally eradicated their culture. There is nothing more imperialist than that

00:25:47.960 perception. And I think that that's the irony of the urban monoculture is it is of all cultural

00:25:53.740 groups, the most supremacist in that they believe themselves to be naturally superior to all others,

00:25:58.800 the most imperialistic that a other groups are supremacists, but they are supremacist with

00:26:04.020 qualifications, you know, like evangelical Christians, for example, have a respect for

00:26:08.320 Jewish culture, right? Like, um, frequently, right? Like they're like, Oh, we got to help them 1.00

00:26:12.400 rebuild their temple. Like they have this degree of like, let's work together. The urban monoculture

00:26:16.400 does it sees everyone else's basically like savage monsters, like completely dehumanized.

00:26:22.380 Well, very patronizing too. And also misleading. Oh, we respect your culture. We, we're the only

00:26:29.420 ones who respect you, but like secretly, we're going to change all of your savage ways. Of course,

00:26:35.900 I mean, you know, you'll see the light, of course, you'll do this of your own free will, but we will

00:26:41.760 cure you. And in a very creepy way. And it's such a beautiful dystopia to live through because,

00:26:47.360 you know, we know they're going to lose at the end of the day, right? Like that's so I can't

00:26:52.900 imagine living through this and seeing them in positions of power and feeling like, Oh my God,

00:26:56.760 they could actually succeed in this like insane conquest where they eradicate all of the cultural 0.99

00:27:02.200 diversity of our planet. And, and one day everyone just thinks like them and yet they still believe

00:27:07.800 they're the victims and all this. It's, it's, it's literally like almost the most evil conceivable

00:27:14.220 perspective to both see yourself as a victim while systemically oppressing those other than

00:27:20.020 you. Yeah. Great. I mean, I, I think it really just comes down broadly to these things of anti-humanity

00:27:30.360 and victim elevation. I don't, I don't know how else to explain it. Well, anti-industry,

00:27:39.220 I think as well, I mean, we really, when we chose. Anti-industry is anti-humanity. I mean,

00:27:43.720 industry is the most human thing, you know, it is finding more efficient ways. It is the

00:27:50.560 prefrontal cortex. Industry is an emergent property of the prefrontal cortex. Take away the prefrontal

00:27:56.060 cortex and there is no industry. Yeah. But I think, you know, you look at our,

00:28:00.240 that we use in the techno Puritan stuff and we use in the Hardy A foundation and everything. And it's,

00:28:05.000 it's, it's a gear, right? Like it represents industry. It represents innovation and moving

00:28:10.700 forwards. And if I had a second one, it would be like a factory pumping out smoke. You know what

00:28:14.660 I mean? Like the idea of, of progress as defined in, in the age of the enlightenment in the, you know,

00:28:22.960 industrial revolution in how that's continuing with AI and whatever, you know, it comes to symbolize

00:28:29.920 AI in the same way that a, a, a billowing factory represented industry during the industrial

00:28:36.960 revolution. That is what we stand. And it's also why we're so antagonistic with individuals who want

00:28:41.900 to, you know, belittle the same way in the past, somebody might have belittled industry and been

00:28:46.560 like, Oh, well, everything handwoven is, is better. You know, the loom, what a, what a joke that's never

00:28:51.400 going to catch on, you know? And that's what I feel with people, you know, talking about AI art and

00:28:55.700 traditional artists and AI, you know, whatever. So I were so interested in getting in AI was like

00:29:00.160 our AI education system and our AI gaming system and these, which I'm really excited about. We'll

00:29:07.040 see if it, you know, it'd be cool if we end up actually raising money for, for both.

00:29:14.860 It'd be amazing if we do. I'm really excited. Well, hopefully we'll find out within the next

00:29:20.960 three weeks. So we'll see. We'll see.

00:29:27.460 Yes. Yeah. I, it's, it's what you just admitted the second application.

00:29:32.380 Yeah, I did.

00:29:33.640 This is so wild. If we both get in, it would be so wild. We might actually have to move the

00:29:37.880 kids out there.

00:29:41.580 I'm pregnant, Malcolm.

00:29:43.760 You need to be at your local doctors. I understand. We'll find a way.

00:29:47.980 Well, we'll find, I mean, we can commute a bit. We'll make, we'll find, I'm committed to these

00:29:54.080 projects and we'll find ways to make it work for sure.

00:29:56.740 Yeah. I think we personally need to be there part of the time. If we're going to build relations with

00:30:02.080 the VC firm and continue to raise money.

00:30:03.760 100%. Yeah.

00:30:04.760 So we'll figure it out.

00:30:07.060 I'm there. No, I'm, I'm super there for this. I'm, I'm all about it. I'm very excited about this.

00:30:11.680 Anyway. Oh, by the way, if any of our listeners and VC firms, feel free to let us know that we

00:30:17.500 can get warm intros on these projects. Cause yeah, I think that like the way that we view

00:30:22.960 industry is the same way we view AI where other people are like, Oh, it's so slop. It's so

00:30:26.300 whatever. It's like, well then improve it, make it better, make it, you know, like this has the

00:30:30.340 potential to transform everything about being human. Like, why are you poo-pooing this? It's, 0.98

00:30:36.180 it's so like techno optimism is, I think the only path to true vitalism was in humanity.

00:30:46.560 There, there are these like reductive vitalisms like liver King, like get back to nature and

00:30:51.540 everything like that. But at the end of the day, you know, I think that the people, this is the

00:30:56.040 interesting thing about the techno optimist. Very few of the techno optimists have turned out to be

00:30:59.420 fraudsters. Common for fraudsters appear among the traditionalist optimist community, the ones who

00:31:04.740 want to go back to nature and stuff like that. And I think that it's because these beliefs are less

00:31:10.740 authentic. They're more about trying to sell to a specific audience or something like that. They're

00:31:16.840 not really driven by this constant need to move humanity forward. They're driven by this need to

00:31:21.420 move themselves forwards and their own ideology forwards. Yeah. There's a lot of that going on,

00:31:27.740 I think. Any thoughts, Simone? That I love you. And yeah. Do you want steak with your fried rice

00:31:38.560 reheated or would you prefer to have steak with some other form of starch? Fried rice reheated would be

00:31:45.660 great. You did a pretty good job with that. And I think it'll taste good with the steak and you are

00:31:49.740 really good at cooking steak, by the way. Thank you. That's really nice of you to say.

00:31:54.440 Oh, maybe. I think gyoza dipping sauce would taste really good with steak.

00:31:59.720 Okay. I'll make it gyoza dipping sauce. Is it hard to mix up? No, it turned out,

00:32:03.400 like I know I gave you this huge, like when you asked me to make it from scratch, it wasn't that

00:32:07.900 hard. So I can. I think it's just soy sauce and then. No, it's equal parts soy sauce, white wine

00:32:15.180 vinegar, and sesame oil. Plus you can and probably should add garlic, ginger, and red pepper flakes.

00:32:23.500 Okay. So I'd make a change to it going forwards. Soy sauce, sesame sauce, a splash of white wine

00:32:28.080 vinegar. Okay. So half the amount. So like one teaspoon of each of those, then half a teaspoon

00:32:33.840 of the white wine vinegar. Cause you felt that was too heavy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Off I go.

00:32:44.660 And I'm going to speak with a journalist while I do it. So don't. I love that you do that. Who

00:32:49.280 are you speaking with tonight? My sweetheart. I can't remember. I don't care. Whatever. Do your

00:32:53.400 thing. Love you. I love you too. Be sure to tell her that you're a Nazi. I, they know already.

00:33:00.500 They do. Sadly, the truth is out there. It's mein Kampf. What can I do? Off I go.

00:33:10.320 In private, you always use words like, ah, it's mein Kampf. Or she's like, we need some

00:33:15.580 Levenschrump. Our kids don't give me enough Levenschrump. I need to eat my dinner. They

00:33:20.380 don't. You're going to get us in so much trouble one day. Never. I'm not, I'm not going to get

00:33:26.600 us in trouble. I'm not going to get us in trouble. I'm fine. I'm not the risk taker.

00:33:32.560 You were just on NPR today. You did a great job with that. I'm sure. We'll see. I bet it's

00:33:36.740 going to be on YouTube and it's just all going to be comments. I'm actually going to

00:33:40.580 check now if they like put it on. I can almost guarantee you like the top ranked comments are

00:33:46.680 going to be like, she's a Nazi. So W-H-Y-Y-N-P-R. Genetic. 0.97

00:33:56.040 The ethics of screening and designer babies. But that was from one day ago.

00:34:02.920 Yeah. So I don't think they've brought mine live yet. This is probably part of a series they're

00:34:09.100 doing. So, so I, I, I, one of the things that Bioweth is just mentioned by the way,

00:34:15.080 on the interview where I was like, wait, is this true? He was like, well, you know, people might

00:34:20.240 screen out for albinism or he was talking about that. He was like, well, but like, it's, it's kind

00:34:24.900 of interesting that like seven Nobel laureates have albinism. And I'm like, what is this true?

00:34:30.260 That seems like bias. I'd be like, that seems like bias.

00:34:34.020 Yeah. They're, they're, they're so white that they have to be smart. Laureus. 1.00

00:34:38.280 It's, it's like, like, it seems super racist or something like list of, hold on.

00:34:43.720 Okay. It's like models with that weird.

00:34:47.000 Yeah. But yes. With, yeah.

00:34:49.060 It's like that results of bias. That's not inclusivity.

00:34:51.900 I know, but it looks really cool. I think that's, I think the reason why like people think it's

00:34:56.280 woke, but no, it's because it's cool. And that's the, the unifying thing of runway

00:35:00.660 models. Isn't that they're beautiful. It's that they look very distinctive.

00:35:04.880 And what's more distinctive.

00:35:05.640 Hold on. If we made our kids all albinos, like that'd be so cool for the techno

00:35:09.080 Puritans, like all white skin and red eyes. 1.00

00:35:11.760 Like not having any melanin is such a risk with outdoor exposure.

00:35:18.760 I mean, as much as outdoor exposure is such a risk to productivity.

00:35:21.540 I love you so much. I love your like, I roll there. That was intense.

00:35:29.600 Is it true though? I'm asking perplexity.

00:35:34.940 No, it says no, Nobel laureate is known to have albinism.

00:35:39.640 So you just made it up. Sorry. I gotta delete that.

00:35:42.580 Do people just lie on the internet?

00:35:44.780 People just lie on NPR? You just go on NPR and get a lie?

00:35:48.480 Go on. Apparently. Yes.

00:35:52.360 I mean, did I mishear him?

00:35:54.620 Are you here?

00:35:56.580 Oh, perplexity is looking into a deep research. So if it's out there, we'll find it. No,

00:36:02.160 no, there's no evidence that people with albinism are disproportionately represented among major

00:36:07.580 award winners. In fact, the available information suggests the opposite. People with albinism are 1.00

00:36:12.320 underrepresented in most high profile fields and including entertainment, politics, science,

00:36:16.720 activities. So, Octavian, Octavian, what? Hey, buddy.

00:36:21.800 Hi.

00:36:22.640 You're home awful early.

00:36:24.560 You want to have him talk to the fans really quick?

00:36:26.180 What have I brought?

00:36:27.480 You brought surprises. Do you want to talk to the YouTube people?

00:36:32.540 Look what I got. This is my present. What have I been doing so good?

00:36:37.500 Stacy gave me this present. Stacy gave me, Stacy gave me this present because I was so good.

00:36:45.240 what else do you have in your box of mysteries what is it my friend

00:36:57.780 look oh no yes but what i haven't you want me to open it yeah let's see hey check it this check check it

00:37:08.100 it's it's the underwear your sister requested

00:37:15.620 she can you can you ask him to tell people to like hey octavian can you tell the people to

00:37:21.060 like and subscribe like and subscribe to our video if this is good why why should why should

00:37:31.220 they like and subscribe because because my dad told me they can make money and they really want

00:37:40.100 to be rich so subscribe for us because you want money well you heard the boy yes

00:37:51.540 like like say she gives me special permission to have this truck so like tomorrow i can put my army

00:38:00.260 man like my tan army guys in here they can drive i'm going to the green team to be the green team like

00:38:08.580 this bye i'll see you i'll see you a little bit i'm up and i see you like learn about this goodbye

00:38:21.860 and that's over and out from octavia have a good call with that journalist okay thanks do you want me

00:38:28.980 to take octavian and deal with him yeah if you could so that i can start dinner and talk with

00:38:33.540 her because otherwise just can't stop watching that a and b on loop it's so good it's it's one of

00:38:50.100 this little shark girl gora gora i'll put it in the the comments below if i remember or here but it is

00:38:57.060 it's like you see these these young rebellious girls and i just like

00:39:02.660 so hope my daughter grows up to be like this

00:39:16.100 and i know she will because i've already said like it's very clear

00:39:27.700 they will be you know i've been reflecting on i was talking to you about this is how deep the

00:39:34.100 desire in me is to have the type of young children who you know in my fantasies are are

00:39:40.020 first and foremost like mischievous rule breakers and not like and i know that other parents seem to

00:39:46.100 want like obedient rule followers and i don't know you know this is genetic i don't know if this is

00:39:52.100 cultural um simone said it's just because i want somebody like myself and you know that's like a

00:39:56.740 way of i guess culturally pressing it's not just that it's that there's you have a an extreme

00:40:04.660 aversion disgust reaction to people who follow rules that you think aren't logical yeah so you

00:40:14.180 don't want to be disgusted by your children so obviously you like it the other way do you fantasize

00:40:20.500 about the kids being like rebellious and and mischievous who cleans up their messes for the

00:40:27.540 most part you what do you want them to be like when you think of successful i like to think about

00:40:32.420 the businesses that they start like i was telling you this morning like tourists tighten an industry

00:40:38.500 starting a business together yeah the two next ones the names that we're probably going to go with

00:40:44.420 oh you won't let me say them because you haven't bought the url i need to get the i need to get

00:40:49.140 their like mill addresses very very frustrating

00:40:55.060 you bopped him with the soccer bopper toasty you gotta get him back

00:41:14.820 now i'm even stronger oh yeah oh toasty you gotta power up power up

00:41:19.620 you gotta boost your power bam bam bam bam

Based Camp - April 17, 2025

Deciphering the Progressive Religion： Environmentalism, Trans, & Anti-Semitism

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