Deciphering the Progressive Religion： Environmentalism, Trans, & Anti-Semitism
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In this episode, Simone and I discuss what we think about modern leftist beliefs, and why they seem to be so central to our understanding of the world. We talk about how they came about, why they are so important to us, and what it means to be a leftist.
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Hello, Simone! I am excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be tackling and
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trying to work our way through something that I see as particularly an interesting mystery,
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that I don't know if I have a formal thesis on what's causing it yet. But it is when I look at,
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you know, the urban monoculture from which, you know, modern leftist culture derives itself,
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where it holds beliefs that I would say appear to an outsider to be borderline theological,
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and it is a sin to go against these particular beliefs. Most frequently, these beliefs fall
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into a few categories. Environmentalism is a really big one. Another one is trans politics is a really
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big one. And then another one is genetics is a really big one. And I'm, I'm like, actually, like,
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sort of surprised, because not all of these things are like intrinsic to a leftist worldview,
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how they arrived and consolidated around these particular areas, where they most frequently
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say things that just like, on face value, or was like the littlest bit of research are not true.
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You know, this can be, you know, in genetics, it's like, well, everyone has exactly the same
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capabilities. And it's like, they very obviously don't like if you if you do even the basis look
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at science, some of our proclivities and traits have a heritable component, like that's a weird
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thing to claim. Then people can be like, Oh, well, this is like downstream of like fears about like
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Nazism, and eugenics and stuff like that. And I'm like, maybe, but it's weird that it's so core to the
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way they see the world. And then was environmentalism. There's this form of not real environmentalism,
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but aesthetic environmentalism, I persistently see them retreat to, you know, where they're taking
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down like nuclear power plants in Germany, despite their only other source of energy being like Russian
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oil, which is like, obviously dirtier, but like, as environmentalists, we're anti nuclear, like, and
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and it's not just that. It's also like when I mentioned something like this is like reporters
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frequently have like a visceral reaction. When I tell them fertility collapse will affect people's
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lives more in the next hundred years than global warming will. And they're like, are you sure you
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don't want to restate that? Like they see this as like an absolutely insane thing to say. Like I'm
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saying the sky is red when I say, yeah, it's not the most important thing. Or they're like, well,
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don't you care about like a huge collapse in the number of species, you know, like a mass extinction.
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And I'm like, a mass extinction is bad. Like, it's not awesome. There are consequences of a mass
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extinction. They're not existential consequences. Like it's, it's, it's, it's bad. Like it's not great.
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Like I'm not aiming for it, but it's not, you know, threatening to human survival or even the
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existing way that we structured our civilizations in the way that they seem to be like implying it
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is. And I don't think that they really believe it is either. They're not afraid of a mass extinction
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because of humans are afraid of a mass extinction because the mass extinction matters. So as somebody
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who used to, I think you maybe used to genuinely hold some of these beliefs. Maybe you can explain to
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me sort of how they work and where they're coming from. I think maybe a lot of people steeped in the
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urban monoculture, super progressive, modern religion have this modern version of noblesse oblige in that
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they're indoctrinated in that leads them to believe that their purpose is to protect anything that is
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perceived as less capable of defending itself than they are. That the last person for them to defend
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is anything close to them because they come from this position of privilege. So it's different from
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the old concept of noblesse oblige, which I think had a little bit more of a self-preservation instinct.
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This one's a more like suicidal form of noblesse oblige, if that makes sense. That's just like,
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I don't matter. I am wretched and I must protect all that, which is relatively more defenseless.
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That's a really interesting point. So essentially they ascribe automatic moral value to whatever
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they perceive to be the weaker party. Which greater victimhood holds higher moral value. And that is
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indeed, I think why oppression Olympics kind of went out of hand because I think some people have a
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deeper instinct to still want to be at the top of a dominance hierarchy. And they realized intuitively
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that they could only be at the top of the dominance hierarchy by being more of a victim.
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And that's why you get everything from people playing oppression Olympics to wealthy to middle-class
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teenage girls becoming spoonies and playing oppression Olympics by getting sick.
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Yeah. That part explains where you get this like invented trans identity. And I think that
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like the, the, the, the, well, it also explains why in those heat maps, for example, and sort of
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research of the progressive versus conservative brain, progressives hold more things as having
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moral weight that are not their family, their immediate community in themselves.
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That makes sense. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense actually.
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But there's more than just that. I think there's an inherent distrust of advancement
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and the concept of manifest destiny or conquering the natural world. And I think this is why among
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progressive circles, the book sapiens took on so much. I've never heard a conservative talk about
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And like a big, a big aspect or thesis of sapiens. So it's admittedly been almost 10 years since I've
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first read it is that it made me so angry. It's just wrong. It just talks about how everything kind of
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went downhill after agriculture and our teeth got horrible and we'd lived in stressful environments
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and we'd lived in diseased cities and it was just, Oh, it was so bad. And like, Oh, somehow our hunting
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gathering period was so wonderful. And I think the reason why that resonated so much with educated
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progressive audiences is that there is this inherent mistrust of modernity and of conquering,
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for example, nature. And I think this is also seen in the contrast between the way that
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conservatives have historically engaged with the environment and conservation versus how
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progressives have engaged with the environment. So conservatives are all like, yes, conservation,
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like let's go out hunting. Like let's go out camping. Let's enjoy conquering nature and protect
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it so we can keep conquering it again. Cause it's so our training simulator. We can't disrupt it.
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Yeah. Like let's, let's keep it around. Cause it's really, really great. And then progressives are
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more like, no, let's tear down our nuclear plants, our modernity. Let's tear down our cities. Let's tear down
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our modern infrastructure. In some cases, it's literally, you know, engage in degrowth and tear
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down our economies and civilization to let nature take back over. And of course the extreme version
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of this is antinatalism. Wouldn't it be great if a comet wiped out all humans? Wouldn't it be great
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if all humans died? Which is surprising of our progressives believe when we did our survey in
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the United States, 17% of our respondents said the world would be better without any humans.
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Let's continue. Sorry. Yeah. But that's the, I think that it's that combination of this modern
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noblesse oblige. I am wretched and everything outside me that it, that has higher victim on
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its status or less agency is more important. It takes precedence over my needs. And remember you,
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it took you like seven years to convince me that I was not the dumbest, lowest value person
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of everyone. Like this was deeply ingrained in me and it took so much work on your part to convince
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me that. Spectacular. And I was like, no, you are spectacular. You are one of the most desirable
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humans on earth and one of the most talented humans on earth. And I just like, like literally though,
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I mean, I would see someone, you know, who had a lot, like very serious problems and just assume that
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they were better, smarter, more agentic than me. Like it was, it was, I think some people will hear
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that and be like, I don't know. She's a four. She's mid. She's not what Malcolm says. He's wearing
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husband goggles. No, this was actually dysmorphic. I'm not saying, hold on. I'm not even talking about
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attractiveness here. I'm talking about competence. Intelligence, competence. Yeah. Agency, all of that.
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I thought that I was lesser and more wretched. And so like, if anyone were to say something like,
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well, that's not true, right? I just, I just like, okay. And that was, and I, and I played this game
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at Stanford when she went to Cambridge because I sent her there for gorgeous. I was like, okay,
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Cambridge is like the best place. Right. And I was like, every day, you got to tell me if you met
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anyone smarter than yourself, because you were at least able to judge that, like, like more interesting
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starter than yourself. And she just never did. And I was like, okay, so this is supposedly where the
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smartest and best people in the world, like go, if you're not finding people better than you here.
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And now, you know, we get invited to events like Hereticon and stuff like that. Right.
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Where like some of the wealthiest people in the world, you know, who run like major funds and
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stuff like that. Like it's really run by Mike Solana and Peter Thiel. They, they go out and
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they invite like whoever they think is changing the world most. So it's bringing together like
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literally from a top down, like the most agentic people. I mean, I'd say like was in that environment
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of the women in that environment, you're easily in the top 50% in, in terms of, I I'd say like
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intelligence and agency and interestingness. And so that's wild because that's already
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like a super pre-selected crowd. And, and so I think that, yeah, you, you really struggled
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to be like, oh, I'm actually like, you know, competent. Right.
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And I think that's pretty pervasive in this culture. And that's another important part of
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This really interesting, actually, because the culture values a lack of status so much like
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a victimhood mindset so much that it doesn't really give you the tools to see yourself as
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anything, but to see yourself as something other than like, you're, you're only supposed
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to go into everything expecting the least of yourself, which is, I have a story. I remember
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about this, that, that you would find comical Simone, which is the first time I went to buy
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condoms. I was like, well, I'm like a normal, whatever person. So I should buy small condoms,
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which now around a lot. I'm like, oh, that was a very, very big mistake.
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It must've been a deeply uncomfortable thing to discover when you just immediately broke.
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But that's what I thought because I was like, oh, you know, I'm average. I'm not even average to
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assume I'm average is to assume too much of my, I must be a little below average. Right. You know,
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because that's, I think you're right. Yeah. We're taught that that's a value to not have pride in
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yourself. No, it's, I don't know. It's not even. So to a certain extent, we're taught to value
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things that are lesser and victimy, but we, we are also demoralized. And I think some people end
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up playing oppression Olympics because they, they put the two together. They're like, oh,
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I'm demoralized, but also I can leverage this to gain status. I never made that connection.
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You never made that connection, but some people do underground connection, you know, that, that
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is rewarded subconsciously, but a lot of people don't realize, because I think a lot of people
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like, like genuinely, I think the vast majority of trans people do not realize that they are
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being treated with a special degree of status within urban monoculture environments. They,
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they genuinely are unable to see the systemic privilege they have over cis people. They, they genuinely
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think that, that like what's going on around them is a form of oppression. And I think it's because
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they see you, you remember, there's a great chart of women and, and men progressives, right. But,
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but women specifically who today think that being a woman severely damages the prospects of being
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successful in life. Well, I think people have come to equate literally life, just being hard,
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sometimes being alive, being hard, sometimes to oppression. No, no, no, no, no. So over 50% of
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progressive women, I remember we were looking at a chart, think that women are systematically
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discriminated against when it comes to getting into college. Like that's insane considering women
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make up like the vast majority of college goers these days, right? So here you can see two graphs
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titled trends and perceptions of discrimination against women amongst 12th graders by sex and ideology,
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1976 to 2022. And you can see that female liberals, the purple line here to the question,
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to what extent do you think your sex will prevent you from getting the kind of work you would like to
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have went from around 40% in 2010, which is ridiculously high, but whatever, um, to 75% as of like
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2024 or 2022. Like why is it going up so much? They're just being brainwashed. And you can see in other
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groups, it's going down. Then in perceptions of discrimination against women, again, you see it
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going way up after the 2010s in both, uh, male liberals and female liberals. Like they think,
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oh yeah, women, they have it so hard in college because it's so, you know, maybe because they're,
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they, they make up a larger portion of the population or something in college. I don't know.
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I could see college being harder with more women being present.
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Yeah. But, but the reality is, is that actually, no, it was always the dudes on the group projects
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who made life miserable. They did. Yeah. That is an interesting point.
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I want the Lisa Simpsons, you know, I want, I want other people who are as like
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do goody as I was, I hated the dead weight. Screw you guys.
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Then you get me on a group project and I always just like, all right, this is how we're going to do.
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I was actually really good at that stuff. You, you, you were a major, like you did
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disproportionately. You were very unusual. Oh, not, not even that. I was very good at
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splitting up work and making sure people did. You made them functional. You weren't, you weren't
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like the, you weren't the girl who was just like, oh, I'll do it all. And everyone else just is quiet.
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You were like, you do this, you do this. But you also like, because you did that,
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Hmm. I guess I never felt that way. I was taking more rewards. I'll tell you that.
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I know I, I, in college, I was running like every society. I was like president simultaneously of like
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multiple large societies on campus and no one had ever done that.
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Leaders know how to recognize talent and leverage it and delegate. Well, that's good.
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I guess I wanted power or whatever. Like I, I, I liked doing it. There's that. I wanted it for
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my resume to get a power hunger had nice negative externalities with negative externalities or
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positive externalities. Nice, positive externalities.
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But okay. Let's focus on environmental stuff. Like I still don't fully, I guess what you're saying
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is that environmentalism from a progressive perspective, they see like imperialism is bad.
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Like the expansion of European culture and was it industrialization is bad.
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Progress, just human intervention. And I, I actually think, so we, we talk about antinatalism
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and anti-human sentiment as being a novel advent. I, I think it is, it has deeper and older roots
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than that. And I think that it was first manifested as a hatred of human advancement, imperialism and
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manifest destiny. That it ultimately was about anti-human sentiment and this, this resentment of
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humans conquering nature and conquering natural environments. And that, that, that looped into
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environmentalism and was combined with this, I think Christian derived, but I'm going to say
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corrupted Christian sentiment derived adoration of victimhood.
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I don't know if the victimhood adoration, I, like a lot of people have made this claim that it comes
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downstream of Christian culture or like Protestant culture. I don't know if I believe that.
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So it seems to work all by itself without the Christian culture. You know, you,
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You want to protect the weakest thing. Cause that's how you prove that you were the best,
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right? Like you're not doing anything wrong, you know? And it comes from, if you just make this
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mindset where like, well, the Gazans are weaker, therefore they're in the right. And you're like,
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well, they do like torture gay people. Like, are you okay with that? And they're like, well,
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they don't because a weak person can't be evil. Like there's this understanding that, that the morality
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of a group is, is there's never like a case in which a weak person is a bad person.
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And, and there's never a case in which a weak community or group is abusing other communities.
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No matter their crimes. And if their crimes were horrendous, well, it was because of what we've done.
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Well, I mean, you see, this is the grooming gangs and the great gangs of, of, of the Muslims that you
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have around Europe right now, they're like really prevalent and like capture and great lots of girls
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or the case in the United States where you had a group of black teens who invited over a white teen
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was like mental disabilities and like beat him near to death or something. And like the progressives
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were like cheering this as like a, Oh, you know, you know, like them winning, like you keep seeing
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this of, of well, because they're in X group. And obviously the real weaker person is the white,
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the real weak old person or the, the Israelis who were captured. The real weaker person is the
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person who happens to be born gay in Gaza, but it is the, I think a larger community. Like they're
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not able to see this on the individual level. They try to look at the community level in terms of
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how they structure this ideology and then say, okay, so the weaker individual at the community level
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is the individual that's deserving of, of, of higher status. And therefore we just assume that
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everything they're saying is right. It's very much like the, you know, believe all women thing
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and stuff like that. Right. Like including Israeli women who were being graped in, in, in Gaza. Well,
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not them, you know, they're not, you know, so the way it sorts, I'm trying to think like hierarchically
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how it sorts where this also comes to, you know, whether it's genetics or culture thing, but like
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genetically and culturally, we're all the same. There's no differences in us. And this explains where you,
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and I've mentioned this in previous episodes, but it's worth reiterating why the urban monoculture
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always ends up turning to antisemitism and against the Jews, because it explains all human
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differences because it doesn't believe in genetics and it doesn't really believe in cultural differences
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in proficiency. It believes all differences in groups must come from one group discriminating
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against another group or exercising some form of like, you know, power over another group or cheating
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in some way. And so, you know, because Jews disproportionately succeed in economic and academic context,
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they must be cheating. Right. Right. Right. And I think that, that at the end of the day,
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so long as Jews have the Jewish exceptionalism, i.e. achieving at an unusual rate within multiple
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fields, they will be seen as the core oppressor group, especially due to their smaller size.
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Cause they're like, well, look at their differential success in smaller size and they don't fit into any of
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our special categories. So, you know, we need to get rid of them. And I think that many people were
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surprised how hard the urban monoculture turned against the Jews. And they expect this to be a
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short-lived phenomenon tied to this war that they're having right now. And I don't think it
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is. I think it's a, it's a going to be a persistent shift. Yeah. Dear. Well, well, I mean, it's, it's,
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it's good more broadly because it brings the Jews who believed that the progressives were their friends
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into the sort of new right cause into the pronatalist cause into the, you know, the persistent alliance.
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I think it's causing two things. I think it's causing some reformed Jews who are progressive to
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And, and yeah, the, the, the rest will just drop, but I don't know. I think it's really hard
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for some people to accept that they're no longer part of the urban monoculture. There's a lot of fear
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around that. Yeah. That the urban monoculture has turned on. Well, I think it's, you know,
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you were talking about this and some people on blue sky, you were trying to be like, well,
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the Collins's aren't really that bad because we weren't viral on there recently. And, but they're,
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they're progressive. Right. And so they're trying to explain this and they, they dealt with like
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major cognitive dissonance. It's when it was like, what, why, why is this happening? You know?
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And, oh my God, this is like, actually like a, what is that? What? There was like a white line
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on my glasses. Oh, this is, this is actually like a thing that's happening. And I think that the,
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the reason is, is because especially some women, and this is where I see this happening the most,
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have such a like instinctual desire to fit in with whichever the dominant culture is.
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Yeah. Specifically an argument that she was trying to make was that they were saying, well,
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they've, they've been to conferences with bad people. They didn't use that word. They used
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other words, but not just with bad people. Therefore they are bad people. And she's like,
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well, how are you going to change the minds of bad people if you never talk to them? And they're like,
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wow. But then she, she felt like somehow that that was a weak argument. It's not a weak argument.
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Like you really, if you don't engage with people that you disagree with, how are you ever going to
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like, you know, expose them to ideas that might change their minds? And, and yet she somehow was
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like, well, I was a dumb idea. I can't believe I said that. That's embarrassing. You know?
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The urban monoculture really protects itself by creating a cultural norm around not engaging with
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outside ideas and not exposing yourself to outside ideas. And I, and that's what we're seeing here is
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this, it is a very powerful norm from like, I think it's about social contagion, just like there's
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something, and I don't understand it. There's something going on with social contagion.
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No, no, no. The point being Simone is that the urban monoculture has developed a pattern
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of isolating anyone who might have engaged with an outside idea. That's what they're trying to do
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to us. They're like, oh, these people appear to be immune to our cultural virus. These people appear
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to be able to engage with outsiders. If they engage with outsiders, they might bring some idea into this
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larger memetic cluster, which is dangerous to it. So we can't engage with them. The easiest way to
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protect your ideology is to never engage with the, the ideas of the people you disagree with.
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And I think that that's what's happening there. And this is why, you know, you persistently see,
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you know, in studies that have looked at this is that conservatives have a much easier time
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modeling progressives than the other way around is that they, they, they literally build a wall.
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And that's one of the most interesting things about debating with progressives on, you know,
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policy or whatever, is they're like, you guys are, are Nazis and racists. And it's like, well, I mean,
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right. You know, this is just like, as you're going to lock up women and re-enslave black people.
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And it's like, well, that hasn't happened. Right. So that doesn't appear to be where we're going.
00:24:11.320
And they really struggle with the idea that the world that we're living in, you know, under the
00:24:19.220
Trump administration, isn't the world that, that they said we're fighting against the Trump
00:24:25.200
administration to prevent, right? Like their, their, their idea of the other side is so fictionalized
00:24:32.300
that they have trouble engaging with it in any way, but it needs to be fictionalized because if they did
00:24:38.500
engage with it, they'd understand that the urban monoculture is at its core, very imperialistic.
00:24:45.200
Yeah. Well, I mean, it is, it's, it's, you know, I was talking with a reporter recently and I was
00:24:50.060
like, okay, so, you know, you understand when I talked to somebody in the urban monoculture and I'm
00:24:55.160
like, well, the people in Africa who you claim to love so much, you know, they have very different
00:24:58.900
rules around gender roles in marriage and very different rules around a woman's role and very
00:25:03.880
different ideas around, you know, gay people and very different views on what's like moral and
00:25:10.240
what should happen after death, et cetera. And, and, and they are thinking in their heads, well,
00:25:14.860
I mean, of course, one day, you know, every one of their churches will be flying the, what do we
00:25:20.100
call the colonizer's flag, you know? And, and this is the new weird pride flag. Every church in Africa
00:25:29.580
is going to be flying this and they're all going to have our idea about gender roles in marriage.
00:25:32.720
And they're all going to have our idea about how you should raise your children, you know,
00:25:35.200
corporal punishment, if that's what they do now, they're, they're all going to have our idea around,
00:25:38.800
you know, gay, you know, they're all going to have our idea about everything. Right. And it's like,
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well, they functionally eradicated their culture. There is nothing more imperialist than that
00:25:47.960
perception. And I think that that's the irony of the urban monoculture is it is of all cultural
00:25:53.740
groups, the most supremacist in that they believe themselves to be naturally superior to all others,
00:25:58.800
the most imperialistic that a other groups are supremacists, but they are supremacist with
00:26:04.020
qualifications, you know, like evangelical Christians, for example, have a respect for
00:26:08.320
Jewish culture, right? Like, um, frequently, right? Like they're like, Oh, we got to help them
00:26:12.400
rebuild their temple. Like they have this degree of like, let's work together. The urban monoculture
00:26:16.400
does it sees everyone else's basically like savage monsters, like completely dehumanized.
00:26:22.380
Well, very patronizing too. And also misleading. Oh, we respect your culture. We, we're the only
00:26:29.420
ones who respect you, but like secretly, we're going to change all of your savage ways. Of course,
00:26:35.900
I mean, you know, you'll see the light, of course, you'll do this of your own free will, but we will
00:26:41.760
cure you. And in a very creepy way. And it's such a beautiful dystopia to live through because,
00:26:47.360
you know, we know they're going to lose at the end of the day, right? Like that's so I can't
00:26:52.900
imagine living through this and seeing them in positions of power and feeling like, Oh my God,
00:26:56.760
they could actually succeed in this like insane conquest where they eradicate all of the cultural
00:27:02.200
diversity of our planet. And, and one day everyone just thinks like them and yet they still believe
00:27:07.800
they're the victims and all this. It's, it's, it's literally like almost the most evil conceivable
00:27:14.220
perspective to both see yourself as a victim while systemically oppressing those other than
00:27:20.020
you. Yeah. Great. I mean, I, I think it really just comes down broadly to these things of anti-humanity
00:27:30.360
and victim elevation. I don't, I don't know how else to explain it. Well, anti-industry,
00:27:39.220
I think as well, I mean, we really, when we chose. Anti-industry is anti-humanity. I mean,
00:27:43.720
industry is the most human thing, you know, it is finding more efficient ways. It is the
00:27:50.560
prefrontal cortex. Industry is an emergent property of the prefrontal cortex. Take away the prefrontal
00:27:56.060
cortex and there is no industry. Yeah. But I think, you know, you look at our,
00:28:00.240
that we use in the techno Puritan stuff and we use in the Hardy A foundation and everything. And it's,
00:28:05.000
it's, it's a gear, right? Like it represents industry. It represents innovation and moving
00:28:10.700
forwards. And if I had a second one, it would be like a factory pumping out smoke. You know what
00:28:14.660
I mean? Like the idea of, of progress as defined in, in the age of the enlightenment in the, you know,
00:28:22.960
industrial revolution in how that's continuing with AI and whatever, you know, it comes to symbolize
00:28:29.920
AI in the same way that a, a, a billowing factory represented industry during the industrial
00:28:36.960
revolution. That is what we stand. And it's also why we're so antagonistic with individuals who want
00:28:41.900
to, you know, belittle the same way in the past, somebody might have belittled industry and been
00:28:46.560
like, Oh, well, everything handwoven is, is better. You know, the loom, what a, what a joke that's never
00:28:51.400
going to catch on, you know? And that's what I feel with people, you know, talking about AI art and
00:28:55.700
traditional artists and AI, you know, whatever. So I were so interested in getting in AI was like
00:29:00.160
our AI education system and our AI gaming system and these, which I'm really excited about. We'll
00:29:07.040
see if it, you know, it'd be cool if we end up actually raising money for, for both.
00:29:14.860
It'd be amazing if we do. I'm really excited. Well, hopefully we'll find out within the next
00:29:27.460
Yes. Yeah. I, it's, it's what you just admitted the second application.
00:29:33.640
This is so wild. If we both get in, it would be so wild. We might actually have to move the
00:29:43.760
You need to be at your local doctors. I understand. We'll find a way.
00:29:47.980
Well, we'll find, I mean, we can commute a bit. We'll make, we'll find, I'm committed to these
00:29:54.080
projects and we'll find ways to make it work for sure.
00:29:56.740
Yeah. I think we personally need to be there part of the time. If we're going to build relations with
00:30:07.060
I'm there. No, I'm, I'm super there for this. I'm, I'm all about it. I'm very excited about this.
00:30:11.680
Anyway. Oh, by the way, if any of our listeners and VC firms, feel free to let us know that we
00:30:17.500
can get warm intros on these projects. Cause yeah, I think that like the way that we view
00:30:22.960
industry is the same way we view AI where other people are like, Oh, it's so slop. It's so
00:30:26.300
whatever. It's like, well then improve it, make it better, make it, you know, like this has the
00:30:30.340
potential to transform everything about being human. Like, why are you poo-pooing this? It's,
00:30:36.180
it's so like techno optimism is, I think the only path to true vitalism was in humanity.
00:30:46.560
There, there are these like reductive vitalisms like liver King, like get back to nature and
00:30:51.540
everything like that. But at the end of the day, you know, I think that the people, this is the
00:30:56.040
interesting thing about the techno optimist. Very few of the techno optimists have turned out to be
00:30:59.420
fraudsters. Common for fraudsters appear among the traditionalist optimist community, the ones who
00:31:04.740
want to go back to nature and stuff like that. And I think that it's because these beliefs are less
00:31:10.740
authentic. They're more about trying to sell to a specific audience or something like that. They're
00:31:16.840
not really driven by this constant need to move humanity forward. They're driven by this need to
00:31:21.420
move themselves forwards and their own ideology forwards. Yeah. There's a lot of that going on,
00:31:27.740
I think. Any thoughts, Simone? That I love you. And yeah. Do you want steak with your fried rice
00:31:38.560
reheated or would you prefer to have steak with some other form of starch? Fried rice reheated would be
00:31:45.660
great. You did a pretty good job with that. And I think it'll taste good with the steak and you are
00:31:49.740
really good at cooking steak, by the way. Thank you. That's really nice of you to say.
00:31:54.440
Oh, maybe. I think gyoza dipping sauce would taste really good with steak.
00:31:59.720
Okay. I'll make it gyoza dipping sauce. Is it hard to mix up? No, it turned out,
00:32:03.400
like I know I gave you this huge, like when you asked me to make it from scratch, it wasn't that
00:32:07.900
hard. So I can. I think it's just soy sauce and then. No, it's equal parts soy sauce, white wine
00:32:15.180
vinegar, and sesame oil. Plus you can and probably should add garlic, ginger, and red pepper flakes.
00:32:23.500
Okay. So I'd make a change to it going forwards. Soy sauce, sesame sauce, a splash of white wine
00:32:28.080
vinegar. Okay. So half the amount. So like one teaspoon of each of those, then half a teaspoon
00:32:33.840
of the white wine vinegar. Cause you felt that was too heavy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Off I go.
00:32:44.660
And I'm going to speak with a journalist while I do it. So don't. I love that you do that. Who
00:32:49.280
are you speaking with tonight? My sweetheart. I can't remember. I don't care. Whatever. Do your
00:32:53.400
thing. Love you. I love you too. Be sure to tell her that you're a Nazi. I, they know already.
00:33:00.500
They do. Sadly, the truth is out there. It's mein Kampf. What can I do? Off I go.
00:33:10.320
In private, you always use words like, ah, it's mein Kampf. Or she's like, we need some
00:33:15.580
Levenschrump. Our kids don't give me enough Levenschrump. I need to eat my dinner. They
00:33:20.380
don't. You're going to get us in so much trouble one day. Never. I'm not, I'm not going to get
00:33:26.600
us in trouble. I'm not going to get us in trouble. I'm fine. I'm not the risk taker.
00:33:32.560
You were just on NPR today. You did a great job with that. I'm sure. We'll see. I bet it's
00:33:36.740
going to be on YouTube and it's just all going to be comments. I'm actually going to
00:33:40.580
check now if they like put it on. I can almost guarantee you like the top ranked comments are
00:33:46.680
going to be like, she's a Nazi. So W-H-Y-Y-N-P-R. Genetic.
00:33:56.040
The ethics of screening and designer babies. But that was from one day ago.
00:34:02.920
Yeah. So I don't think they've brought mine live yet. This is probably part of a series they're
00:34:09.100
doing. So, so I, I, I, one of the things that Bioweth is just mentioned by the way,
00:34:15.080
on the interview where I was like, wait, is this true? He was like, well, you know, people might
00:34:20.240
screen out for albinism or he was talking about that. He was like, well, but like, it's, it's kind
00:34:24.900
of interesting that like seven Nobel laureates have albinism. And I'm like, what is this true?
00:34:30.260
That seems like bias. I'd be like, that seems like bias.
00:34:34.020
Yeah. They're, they're, they're so white that they have to be smart. Laureus.
00:34:38.280
It's, it's like, like, it seems super racist or something like list of, hold on.
00:34:49.060
It's like that results of bias. That's not inclusivity.
00:34:51.900
I know, but it looks really cool. I think that's, I think the reason why like people think it's
00:34:56.280
woke, but no, it's because it's cool. And that's the, the unifying thing of runway
00:35:00.660
models. Isn't that they're beautiful. It's that they look very distinctive.
00:35:05.640
Hold on. If we made our kids all albinos, like that'd be so cool for the techno
00:35:11.760
Like not having any melanin is such a risk with outdoor exposure.
00:35:18.760
I mean, as much as outdoor exposure is such a risk to productivity.
00:35:21.540
I love you so much. I love your like, I roll there. That was intense.
00:35:34.940
No, it says no, Nobel laureate is known to have albinism.
00:35:39.640
So you just made it up. Sorry. I gotta delete that.
00:35:44.780
People just lie on NPR? You just go on NPR and get a lie?
00:35:56.580
Oh, perplexity is looking into a deep research. So if it's out there, we'll find it. No,
00:36:02.160
no, there's no evidence that people with albinism are disproportionately represented among major
00:36:07.580
award winners. In fact, the available information suggests the opposite. People with albinism are
00:36:12.320
underrepresented in most high profile fields and including entertainment, politics, science,
00:36:16.720
activities. So, Octavian, Octavian, what? Hey, buddy.
00:36:24.560
You want to have him talk to the fans really quick?
00:36:27.480
You brought surprises. Do you want to talk to the YouTube people?
00:36:32.540
Look what I got. This is my present. What have I been doing so good?
00:36:37.500
Stacy gave me this present. Stacy gave me, Stacy gave me this present because I was so good.
00:36:45.240
what else do you have in your box of mysteries what is it my friend
00:36:57.780
look oh no yes but what i haven't you want me to open it yeah let's see hey check it this check check it
00:37:15.620
she can you can you ask him to tell people to like hey octavian can you tell the people to
00:37:21.060
like and subscribe like and subscribe to our video if this is good why why should why should
00:37:31.220
they like and subscribe because because my dad told me they can make money and they really want
00:37:40.100
to be rich so subscribe for us because you want money well you heard the boy yes
00:37:51.540
like like say she gives me special permission to have this truck so like tomorrow i can put my army
00:38:00.260
man like my tan army guys in here they can drive i'm going to the green team to be the green team like
00:38:08.580
this bye i'll see you i'll see you a little bit i'm up and i see you like learn about this goodbye
00:38:21.860
and that's over and out from octavia have a good call with that journalist okay thanks do you want me
00:38:28.980
to take octavian and deal with him yeah if you could so that i can start dinner and talk with
00:38:33.540
her because otherwise just can't stop watching that a and b on loop it's so good it's it's one of
00:38:50.100
this little shark girl gora gora i'll put it in the the comments below if i remember or here but it is
00:38:57.060
it's like you see these these young rebellious girls and i just like
00:39:16.100
and i know she will because i've already said like it's very clear
00:39:27.700
they will be you know i've been reflecting on i was talking to you about this is how deep the
00:39:34.100
desire in me is to have the type of young children who you know in my fantasies are are
00:39:40.020
first and foremost like mischievous rule breakers and not like and i know that other parents seem to
00:39:46.100
want like obedient rule followers and i don't know you know this is genetic i don't know if this is
00:39:52.100
cultural um simone said it's just because i want somebody like myself and you know that's like a
00:39:56.740
way of i guess culturally pressing it's not just that it's that there's you have a an extreme
00:40:04.660
aversion disgust reaction to people who follow rules that you think aren't logical yeah so you
00:40:14.180
don't want to be disgusted by your children so obviously you like it the other way do you fantasize
00:40:20.500
about the kids being like rebellious and and mischievous who cleans up their messes for the
00:40:27.540
most part you what do you want them to be like when you think of successful i like to think about
00:40:32.420
the businesses that they start like i was telling you this morning like tourists tighten an industry
00:40:38.500
starting a business together yeah the two next ones the names that we're probably going to go with
00:40:44.420
oh you won't let me say them because you haven't bought the url i need to get the i need to get
00:40:49.140
their like mill addresses very very frustrating
00:40:55.060
you bopped him with the soccer bopper toasty you gotta get him back
00:41:14.820
now i'm even stronger oh yeah oh toasty you gotta power up power up