Based Camp - April 11, 2024


Do People Really Become More Conservative As They Age?


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In this episode, we discuss the current state of the conservative media landscape, the election of Donald Trump, and the future of the internet as a place of political discourse. We also discuss the dangers of overplaying your hand in the age of social media, and how to deal with it.

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00:00:00.000 gen alpha is remarkably conservative in a lot of their views not old-timey conservative they're
00:00:06.100 more conservative like this channel's conservative um i would say like they're they're pretty like
00:00:11.060 politically aligned when i talk to gen alpha like broadly they're just like super politically
00:00:15.160 aligned with us but it's going to require a hard victory by you know the republican side
00:00:20.460 and some significant voting and voter reform after that victory that prevents the type of
00:00:25.740 shenanigans we keep seeing by the quote-unquote elite in our society which is unlikely
00:00:30.560 i don't think it's that unlikely i think it could happen yeah i think that they consistently
00:00:37.760 overplay their hand i think that they were so happy with how the overplay went during the covid
00:00:42.960 situation we might see something else like that in the near future over something more trivial and the
00:00:48.660 question is how far do they need to go before the general public wakes up and keep in mind that the
00:00:53.140 demographics are not in their best interest would you like to know more it's very good
00:00:57.320 low stress watching although it's really hard is fantastic i i really took him as an inspiration
00:01:03.960 when we started this channel as part of like the character i wanted to do you know very you're not
00:01:08.500 at all like danny gonzalez but i i mean i love you way more but i mean danny's a sort of wholesome
00:01:13.800 family-friendly vibe but on top of controversial content for us right yeah like when he covered the
00:01:21.220 tour of that house that had like the weird like sex dungeon and i mean the problem is like conservative
00:01:26.780 intellectual content is so much of it is either like you know daddy daddy figures you know like
00:01:32.580 you're like jordan peterson make your bed etc you know muscle bros or like angry bros and there's not
00:01:40.000 a lot of a lot of in between well yeah i don't feel that there's a lot of people who it's really easy
00:01:44.640 to emotionally connect with um well here's the thing is ever since there was there was a bit of
00:01:51.220 a golden age of this i think with like the early days of the daily show and people like who's that
00:01:58.220 super flamboyant conservative speaker with the hair milo milo yiannopoulos yeah like those were
00:02:05.900 examples of people on each side of the political divide that didn't take themselves that seriously
00:02:11.880 and i think that's another thing that i really miss a lot is like can we just
00:02:16.360 stop taking everything so seriously no it is true actually yeah nobody really takes their thing is is
00:02:22.680 it like a bit anymore you know or now it's all my brand but not even ironically more just like actual
00:02:30.260 like spurging out about their brands like stop i don't care no i mean it's something that we need to
00:02:38.940 consider in terms of how we're doing videos because we do a juggling of different topic varieties
00:02:44.660 yeah in a way that you know typically if you wanted to do like traditional youtube like if we
00:02:50.680 were just trying to play the algorithm what we would do is just one category of video yeah and instead
00:02:55.960 we try to keep like a menu of of categories specifically sex politics and religion yeah um and you know a lot
00:03:05.100 of times when somebody's interested in one of these domains with a spattering of like ai safety stuff
00:03:10.040 and general science stuff but when somebody's interested in one of these topics they're often not
00:03:14.500 interested in in other of those topics right which it can hurt your videos click-through rate which can
00:03:20.180 hurt the way people interact with your videos obviously we do a lot of parental stuff as well and like
00:03:24.660 the strategies i can use to get around that is like one of the strategy that i've been doing with
00:03:29.100 the tracks which is because they're so different from our other content is to visually differentiate
00:03:35.420 the thumbnails so that when people are looking at the content we're putting out they can immediately
00:03:39.600 tell i've actually thought about changing the the white bottom left corner on the thumbnails to be
00:03:46.600 different colors depending on the topic that we're talking about yeah but it would be
00:03:52.120 i mean like yeah let's i mean maybe like a color coding is a little little much but making the
00:03:59.260 tracks look very different at least would be good yeah yeah that's the goal so we'll see if it works
00:04:06.940 but anyway this topic is an interesting one today which you have mentioned in other videos and you've
00:04:13.360 mentioned this when we've been talking and i have had to correct you multiple times because it hasn't
00:04:18.040 sunk in is you have the notion that people become more conservative as they age right um you know
00:04:26.280 there's a famous quote that is misattributed to winston churchill that it's something like if i meet a
00:04:33.000 a young man who's not a liberal i think he has no heart and if i eat an old man who's not a conservative 0.81
00:04:38.420 i think he has no brain or something like that but did you get a chance to look at the research on
00:04:45.460 this before jumping in i did and i didn't one more than that which was i consulted illicit.org my
00:04:52.800 favorite place to get summaries of studies in a nice digestible format to see what they pulled up
00:05:00.220 because illicit uses ai to essentially do a meta study for you and then it will give you like a
00:05:06.680 paragraph summing up the issue and then it will link to the studies that it cites and give you you can
00:05:14.540 actually select columns i'm like okay well what is their conclusion and then what was the intervention
00:05:19.320 tried like it's just just plugging it here guys i love it it is not 100 free anymore you have to pay
00:05:25.980 for like cool features now and i think there's a limited number of searches but i still love it
00:05:29.860 so i have my my own little research here but i'm so glad to talk about this because yeah i really was
00:05:35.280 under that impression i think a lot of it came down to this one completely anecdotal but still
00:05:40.760 formative experience in high school where a substitute teacher in mrs welsh's biology class
00:05:47.820 who i just hated he he imagine the comic book guy from the simpsons yeah he's a substitute teacher 0.78
00:05:54.440 and i don't know what i had said to him but he'd said something like oh yeah you're idealistic now but
00:05:59.980 then you'll discover later and you're you know you'll come to your senses and i remember thinking like 0.99
00:06:04.280 fuck you i'm never gonna let go of my idealistic anything now because you said that and i hate 0.99
00:06:10.620 your face and like you know i just wouldn't let it go was this person a conservative like what had 1.00
00:06:15.360 you told them i honestly have no idea what i told them so what did you find when you searched it on
00:06:22.000 illicit right so i know what i found but i don't want to taint your perception coming at this quite
00:06:27.620 differently than me yeah i mean it paints a nuanced a more nuanced picture than what i came from which
00:06:35.760 is that like typically people grow more conservative it it points out that political
00:06:44.300 attitudes tend to be stable over time people don't tend to change their minds which connects to all the
00:06:50.040 things that you've pointed out about there being like a strong heritable element of of progressivism
00:06:55.340 versus conservative vote is in a large part genetic um yeah and this is they point out i need to before
00:07:01.300 you go further this is why differential fertility rates between progressives and conservatives really
00:07:06.940 matter if you're talking about the long-term future of the world yeah it means that we are going to
00:07:11.040 across the board see a move more conservative intergenerationally yeah and i think you already see
00:07:16.600 this to people who have talked to gen alpha gen alpha is remarkably conservative in a lot of their views
00:07:24.380 not old-timey conservative they're more conservative like this channel's conservative
00:07:28.360 um i would say like they're they're pretty like politically aligned when i talk to gen alpha like
00:07:33.740 broadly they're just like super politically aligned with us so a little wacky compared to you know like
00:07:39.260 older generations you know they're much more secular in many ways they generally are very accepting of
00:07:45.280 like well actually no i've heard a lot of even like gay skepticism from gen alpha which really surprises
00:07:52.600 me because i i do not remember in my entire lifetime to see a lot of people you know at least like gay
00:07:58.340 men were broadly accepted among a lot of the conservative groups that i've always and as we
00:08:03.160 mentioned in another episode 45 percent of gay men voted for donald trump in the last election cycle so
00:08:07.840 they're also a very you know politically neutral they're not like a mostly progressive group but
00:08:12.120 continue is what you're saying yeah so in in 20 so like i guess oh sorry where i left off was
00:08:18.000 but there does seem to be this unidirectional move toward people going from more progressive to
00:08:26.940 more conservative rather than the other way around so this is yeah i i looked at the data as well and
00:08:33.220 this is what i found so the voting patterns are largely persistent throughout an individual's life
00:08:37.900 but when people do change their voting pattern they change it from progressive to conservative
00:08:43.660 and very few people who start voting conservatively will ever change their vote to a progressive vote
00:08:49.580 and are you referring to the the study do people really become more conservative as they age by
00:08:54.980 jay peterson and company it might be but the but even the change from progressive to conservative
00:09:01.140 was a fairly small change it wasn't like a big shift that you see in everyone it was a shift you saw
00:09:06.120 in a portion of the population yeah yeah and well so and then there's another what was interesting is that
00:09:12.200 the the further support that elicit found for this general claim of like well there when when people
00:09:19.720 don't always change but when they do they go more conservative in 1977 this guy named alan klem found
00:09:26.540 that members of the u.s house of representative became more conservative with seniority now keep in mind this
00:09:33.960 is in 1977 but i could also see that in certain systems people will have incentives to become more
00:09:40.400 conservative because doing so may help with building clout raising more funds like i could see why
00:09:46.240 any politician might might turn more conservative well actually i am going to challenge your thesis here
00:09:54.660 really so another thing that's really persistently seen in the data is that older individuals vote
00:10:00.220 much more conservatively even more conservatively than you would expect given this change than younger
00:10:06.060 individuals but in 1975 cutler argues that that may be the case not because they are becoming more
00:10:13.040 conservative but because they're actually walking the walk rather than just talking the talk what do
00:10:18.520 you mean by that so what illicit says cutler 1975 further argues that older cohorts are more likely to
00:10:24.540 adhere to their earlier more conservative attitudes leading to a widening gap between cohort attitudes
00:10:30.480 okay i don't get what he's saying there but what i think is happening is do you get what he means by that
00:10:35.740 that seems like a nonsensical statement to me i the impression that that gives me is that
00:10:41.020 older people are more likely than older sorry than younger people to actually adhere to their chosen
00:10:48.840 beliefs whereas younger people are more likely to be hypocritical in various ways okay i guess i don't
00:10:56.520 get it that's the argument he's trying to make at least yeah yeah i just don't understand why that
00:10:59.900 would cause more conservative voting behavior um but well come on if you if let's say let's say
00:11:06.600 you are a you know you were you're born a conservative person to a conservative family
00:11:11.640 in a conservative community but then you go to college in new york at an obviously progressive
00:11:16.080 university all your friends are progressive like you might during these young years in the city
00:11:21.380 before you marry and get your family and move back to the south or whatever right
00:11:25.120 you might kind of get brainwashed for a while and or just be more socially flexible because it was
00:11:31.100 it's what gets you ahead it's what helps you date it's what helps you survive in that environment
00:11:35.940 and then as you become older and you become more confident in your own choices and abilities
00:11:41.860 oh and also as you get a family and you spend more time around just your own intuition is what you're
00:11:47.280 talking about that yeah that's that's well that's what i'm hypothesizing the dynamic dynamic at play
00:11:52.560 is when we're looking at this well it could be that what you're looking at is age cohort differences
00:11:58.340 so what i actually expect you're probably seeing here more and this is why you see this affect so
00:12:04.040 much more between age cohorts i.e older people are just way more conservative than you would expect if
00:12:08.800 you were just dealing with this drift is a changing definition of conservatism over time with younger age
00:12:15.860 cohorts in terms of society like if society is drifting more progressive and i think it is
00:12:22.020 and if it is doing that through changing the basically religious and cultural system of youth
00:12:27.740 through a brainwashing program even if people's political beliefs are fairly persistent over time
00:12:34.340 it's going to appear that older demographics are just much more conservative than younger demographics
00:12:40.760 and you know speaking of and this is something we're definitely going to do a longer video on
00:12:45.400 because i found it really interesting um i was watching a thing today that was studying i mean
00:12:51.140 people know how anti-mystic we are and it was so i didn't know this but apparently it's like really
00:12:57.520 strongly backed up in evidence that the theosophical society you're familiar with the the you know these
00:13:03.660 are the ones who like invented the swastika and they were the ones who spread a lot of early oh well 0.99
00:13:09.300 this will be a fun episode someday but anyway they are like the core mystic tradition uh uh evangelists in
00:13:15.420 like the 1920s that started what became sort of new ageism today and they tried to start a new religion
00:13:20.680 that was like a cohesive sort of cross religious system religion like all of the mystics always do 0.98
00:13:25.500 but apparently their system somehow got worked into our public school system not somehow it was a very
00:13:32.640 deliberate very long-standing goal of theirs and now it's basically taught as theology to young kids
00:13:41.080 and they have been so successful that even the stop the woke bill in in florida accidentally included
00:13:48.680 all of the tenets of it in uh like the people who have studied this are like wow this is like the
00:13:55.120 biggest egg on your face moment that somehow this got worked its way into the bill but it also shows
00:14:00.580 how successful they've been and so when we talk about a like systemic brainwashing campaign we really
00:14:06.900 mean that like it's not like a small thing like religious organizations that had specifically
00:14:12.220 religious objectives and this is something that i think a lot of people misunderstand as they think
00:14:17.680 what kids are being uh sort of brainwashed into a secularism when it's it's it's not it is it is not
00:14:24.540 uh occult even uh it is a specific cult the osophist sort of theological and cosmological system
00:14:32.860 which is being pushed but we'll we'll go deeper into the evidence around this but but what we're
00:14:37.900 seeing here is because of the success of these movements to try to change the way that young
00:14:43.780 people relate to religious systems and change the way our society relates to religious systems 0.55
00:14:48.680 have been successful we've had this intergenerational drift
00:14:52.740 that is fascinating yeah that could be what's at play but i i could also just see
00:14:58.780 what i originally said being a factor and or perhaps both are meaningful factors but i mean i still see
00:15:05.860 that even we have become much more comfortable with our own convictions as we have aged not only
00:15:13.400 because we've become more confident in our own opinions with time and with experience but because
00:15:19.640 like literally now we spend more time with our own family than we do with you know peers that may be
00:15:25.580 influencing us and so that happens with age and that is going to affect decision making and you
00:15:32.380 know you're actually a really strong point that i think you sort of see is the more atomized a person
00:15:37.700 is like the less they are reliant on group approval the more conservative they're going to be in their
00:15:43.320 voting behavior this is potentially why people in cities and stuff like that are so much more progressive
00:15:48.280 because the core progressive tactic is uh social isolation and ostracization of anybody
00:15:55.080 who shows any sort of ideological dissent or any you know basically the ability to think for themselves
00:16:01.560 where you don't see this as much within conservative movements so what this would mean is that people
00:16:05.700 who and this is also like a career thing like we couldn't afford earlier in our career to be as
00:16:11.380 conservative as we really were because we'd be fired except for those that one set of investors
00:16:16.280 that decided not to invest in our search fund because one i planned on continuing to work
00:16:21.240 after having kids and two we may not have correctly answered their question quote do you believe there
00:16:27.340 is a fundamental war between christianity and islam no no they said east and west and east and west
00:16:36.280 and they said they defined it is islam is the east and and people who know us we genuinely do not
00:16:42.620 believe that i think the muslims are broadly on our side in this great battle that we're having 0.71
00:16:48.060 no i don't think they agreed with us and it's the monotheists versus the mystics is the way that we
00:16:53.300 frame it but that's my questions heavily mystic now as well they've been really i mean the sufis
00:16:58.660 basically took over islam and we argue that led to the crash of their religious system 0.98
00:17:02.720 in terms of its economic productivity and its scientific productivity
00:17:06.400 but so does this sort of change the way that you i mean for me it shows if if my thesis is correct
00:17:15.040 just how effective the school system has been and the educational system has been
00:17:19.960 at driving people further and further to the left was every generation i disagree because i think that
00:17:26.460 if that were true then what we would see is a strengthening of this trend although that could show up so when
00:17:35.540 when i'm looking at the dates of these studies the the study by jay peterson and company and i checked i
00:17:41.720 can't see if it's jordan i need to go and see who's at the door it was the guy who was making he wanted
00:17:46.440 to do measurements of our house to to make a version of it for his little train model so he he does like
00:17:52.880 really detailed train models and he lives in potstown and so he's making a train model of our house
00:17:58.520 because it's like a historic house in the area i'm so excited oh that's cool okay cool going and saying
00:18:04.540 high and everything oh yeah what was i talking about no no so i was saying you were arguing that
00:18:10.140 well isn't this just all indicative of how effective the public school and university system
00:18:16.460 is at creating more woke people i i countered back with well i don't know if they're can like making
00:18:23.160 them consistently woke when i'm looking at these these studies like they're a bunch from like the 70s
00:18:28.740 and then there are a bunch from like after 2008 and the 2020 study that said that political
00:18:35.760 attitudes are stable but people are more likely to go conservative rather than the other way around
00:18:40.740 that implies to me that the going conservative may be a reversion to one's default stable political
00:18:49.000 affiliation after going through public school so i don't know if public school i mean i don't know
00:18:54.880 of the kids who are being brainwashed today are ever going to be able to deconvert well i mean this
00:18:59.420 implies that they are if like there is kind of a unidirectional political um shift with age
00:19:04.960 that they did historically because this is looking at older people than the kids going through school
00:19:10.000 today well and there is another study 2008 titled is there an emerging age gap in u.s politics it does
00:19:16.840 find the younger voters tend to be more liberal and more supportive of democratic candidates than older age
00:19:22.620 groups so i mean the point that i was making simone is that we don't have data on what's going to
00:19:28.380 happen to the kids who are going through the school system today we don't have data on even the kids who
00:19:33.000 just went through the school system no we just don't like we objectively don't they're not voting yet
00:19:38.240 so we don't know if they're going to change in the way people did in previous generations
00:19:43.480 i think when i you and i were sort of brainwashed or rather socially pressured to be extra democratic
00:19:51.360 me specifically because i remember this it was while i was in college and grad school it was not
00:19:58.480 as strong in high school high school was actually pretty politically neutral like i knew that most of
00:20:04.540 the teachers were were progressive but they certainly wouldn't have forced it down my throat
00:20:09.420 interesting by the way did you feel that pressure because you went to call it to your graduate degree
00:20:17.240 in the united states and then specifically in california in a very progressive area however
00:20:21.820 your college was in saint andrews in scotland did you feel oh in scotland yeah i felt it i mean it was
00:20:29.160 it was a non-option to be conservative even back then oh really oh oh okay like that it was to say i
00:20:35.300 mean this is a pretty posh school that kind of surprises me this is when obama was elected for the
00:20:39.480 first time and everything like that and it's you know of all if you're against him you must be a racist
00:20:43.800 although they haven't really dropped that particular argument have they and then when i was in grad 0.99
00:20:48.640 school you know i was getting my nba at stanford i remember thinking what pussies the republicans on 0.97
00:20:53.320 campus were because they had these support groups for being a discriminated minority you know and they 0.96
00:20:58.320 would constantly say that they feel really discriminated one of my classmates actually ended
00:21:02.120 up becoming a congressman and he was one of the congressmen that got thrown out because he
00:21:06.000 was an anti-trump congressman as trump came into office i think he voted to have him like removed or
00:21:11.680 something but you know obviously he had been influenced by whatever you know this urban
00:21:16.520 monoculture is in terms of its its aggressive attempt to to create social norms around this
00:21:23.500 because i think that that's what happened with a lot of people is whenever a new political candidate
00:21:27.480 comes into play on the conservative side or something like that the progressives treat it as
00:21:32.760 if it is like a hate crime to support this individual and that they are just so much worse than any
00:21:38.340 conservative that had ever existed before and for example like if we became mainstream political
00:21:44.480 candidates for the conservative party you know god willing i'd love that people would act like we are
00:21:49.480 so much infinitely more evil than trump ever was and that's just the way people are with this stuff
00:21:54.320 you know what i mean like i remember when when trump was in office people acting like you know george
00:21:59.540 bush was just the best ever an absolute saint but do you remember when george bush first came into
00:22:04.900 office and everyone was like oh he is yeah nothing like this has ever existed before and with trump i
00:22:11.140 mean for people who like one of my favorite instances when he first started doing like okay-ish in the
00:22:17.200 polls but the left still treated him like he was like the worst scariest candidate in the world
00:22:22.640 he was pretty you know honestly centrist and trump's always been pretty damn centrist and i i know like
00:22:28.700 as republicans we're not supposed to say that he's actually pretty weak sauce on most real
00:22:33.100 conservative issues but he really is he's he's very much like a new york centrist the left couldn't
00:22:38.480 deal with that you know they needed to paint him as a bad guy and so they i remember it was at tulane
00:22:43.740 in one instance somebody had painted you know trump and then whatever the year of the first election
00:22:48.840 cycle was in chalk on like the main through fair and or it was some new orleans university i want to say
00:22:54.860 too lean but there's like another one that starts with the t there may have been taft or something
00:22:58.400 anyway and and so they considered this to be such a huge instance that they offered free psychological
00:23:06.060 counseling for all of the students who had seen it because apparently so many had breakdowns just from
00:23:12.280 the suggestion that trump that anyone on campus may support trump to maybe win the primary now what i love
00:23:20.360 is that trump then ended up winning and it and even at that time you know i wasn't really fully like
00:23:26.920 moved in my politics yet to being like a full-on republican at that point i was still very much
00:23:31.600 pretty centrist in my beliefs as you remember when we first met you know i was like republican on some
00:23:36.080 issues democrat on other issues but i did love watching those videos from the first election night
00:23:42.340 where he won and people just bawling and bawling and it was hilarious because they had so
00:23:49.480 over invested in this false narrative that was being pushed by the media and people don't seem to
00:23:54.120 remember how aggressive the false pushing of this narrative was so i remember nate silver who we've
00:24:00.300 talked about 538 polling he gave trump like eight percent odds of winning and it was so abysmally low
00:24:08.120 even the but even the betting people were writing articles about how he shouldn't you know we should
00:24:15.520 listen to his polls anymore because it was too high because like that was too high oh because remember
00:24:20.860 other polls said it was like less than a one percent chance yeah that's true yeah i guess 0.99
00:24:24.680 yeah and they said that he was like like messing with his numbers and that he should never be allowed
00:24:30.320 to work in polling again and if trump had lost he really may have lost like a lot of his prestige
00:24:36.420 for taking the extremist position of saying there's like an eight percent chance trump could win
00:24:41.160 and and that shows you just how brainwashed how much they were in this bubble of lies
00:24:46.120 and that these were the lies that were put out by their quote-unquote pollsters you know their
00:24:50.460 statistics guys and i think that we as a society have gone through so many shocks where we're like oh
00:24:57.580 like all of the media will just like lie to you and then we go through this other shock during covid
00:25:03.600 we're like they'll just like lie like really like the media means nothing and i i think that
00:25:10.780 hopefully this pushes i i the next generation and i would be really happy to see this like the
00:25:16.300 the true independent thinkers of the next generation to begin sourcing news from new sources sourcing the
00:25:22.640 way they get information from new sources and hopefully be even better informed than previous
00:25:27.840 generations were unfortunately the masses are gonna masses they're gonna go hard communist as
00:25:34.120 far as i can see right now which is part of why we so support charter city movements now obviously the
00:25:39.480 alternative to the charter city movement is that we make something sustainable here in the u.s
00:25:43.480 because this is really probably the only country that can pull it off but it's going to require a hard
00:25:48.360 victory by you know the republican side and some significant voting and voter reform after that victory that
00:25:55.460 prevents the type of shenanigans we keep seeing by the quote-unquote elite in our society which is
00:26:00.720 unlikely i don't think it's that unlikely i think it could happen yeah i think that they consistently
00:26:08.420 overplay their hand i think that they were so happy with how the overplay went during the covid
00:26:13.620 situation we might see something else like that in the near future over something more trivial and the
00:26:19.320 question is how far do they need to go before the general public wakes up and keep in mind that the
00:26:23.800 demographics are not in their best interest i mean the demographics are moving more and more
00:26:27.500 conservative because progressives just aren't having kids so eventually you know as i say that the school
00:26:33.200 system right now is this being a mass conversion system it's sort of like catching the tiger by the
00:26:37.960 tail you know they can't let it go because it will immediately turn around it's quite angry at this
00:26:41.960 point they can't stop the schools from being these conversion centers because if they did then the 0.76
00:26:47.240 republicans would start sweeping elections but if if they don't let it go or the longer they hold on the
00:26:52.800 angrier these parties get because of you know the mass brainwashing of their kids and remember i said
00:26:57.300 i didn't think kids would change their voting behavior like they used to i mean i think that
00:27:01.300 was the huge innovation of the cultural trans movement and keep in mind i i think trans people
00:27:05.880 really exist there is a real thing called being a trans person and gender dysphoria and all that i just
00:27:10.040 think it's incredibly rare and a lot of what we're seeing today is people converting because of the
00:27:16.600 social pressures and and the social clout it gives them and uh it's very hard once you buy into this
00:27:24.800 hierarchical class system as we pointed out there is a sort of caste system on the left which is an
00:27:30.320 inversion of what they see as outside pressures on different groups right and so trans people are at
00:27:36.640 the top of this hierarchy and so that they can sort of join the top of this hierarchy in the same way
00:27:41.320 like in a goth community i can join the top of the goth hierarchy by getting like face piercings or
00:27:46.760 something like that right like a visual sign that i have dedicated myself to the community well they've
00:27:51.460 learned that they can do this but you can't easily detransition so it's sort of like even if you would
00:27:57.680 have drifted towards more conservative value systems as you got older it's no longer really an option for
00:28:02.780 many of these individuals given how viciously trans individuals are attacked in online spheres when they
00:28:09.860 detransition or show support for conservatives as we have seen with you know buck angel who was really
00:28:16.240 like the first major trans influencer in terms of uh getting trans acceptance but he made the huge
00:28:23.860 mistake of saying the push to transition children and and purity blockers are both for children are both
00:28:30.860 wrong and they shouldn't be using them as a movement and they basically turned on him like wild like a room full
00:28:36.440 wild monkey scratching his face off and what they showed me is that this is first and foremost a
00:28:42.340 political cult and not really about supporting either trans individuals who have moved forward
00:28:49.240 trans acceptance significantly yeah it is really interesting with the trans movement like how much
00:28:53.600 hate and danger those who do not tow the mainstream line are subject to i wanted to bring up one more
00:29:00.380 subject on the do people become more conservative as they age question which is that i mean i'll i will
00:29:09.920 admit that we appear to be getting more politically polarized and that that doesn't seem to be getting any
00:29:14.960 better with time however from door knocking to get on the ballot as a republican candidate i did see some
00:29:23.720 interesting nuance in that so many people and i only knocked on the doors i should note of
00:29:29.840 republicans who had voted in all past four elections plus at least one primary so this is people who
00:29:37.920 are pretty dedicated voters i was surprised by the the number the percentage of that group that answered
00:29:45.920 their doors that then upon answering their doors would not even give me a signature as a republican
00:29:54.360 running for local office like i am not running for president i'm not running for senate i'm not
00:29:58.920 like what i think about you know presidential candidates really isn't relevant in my opinion
00:30:06.620 but i was just really surprised and it made me realize that like this isn't necessarily as clear
00:30:12.840 cut as you would think a lot of people think for example like row has gone too far and now they have
00:30:18.640 to kind of go into a more progressive direction and i actually felt myself thinking oh my god like are
00:30:24.180 people going more progressive like a lot of people were like i'm switching to democrat now
00:30:27.520 or like i'm no longer gonna support any republicans like that was an answer i got a lot and that you
00:30:33.800 know kind of presents a small anecdotal argument in the other direction but maybe that's just because
00:30:38.440 things have gone so off the rails with the republican party in the united states at this time
00:30:44.040 given some stances they've taken where they're eating their their feet now eating their feet eating
00:30:49.420 their shoes well they're eating something not yummy yeah uh yeah no uh they've definitely gone off the
00:30:57.920 rails in a few areas which i think is has caused them a significant level of pain that they didn't
00:31:03.660 need to experience yeah like committing to positions they didn't need to commit to um yeah well that now
00:31:10.620 people are making a significant portion of their own group decide to run con like counter to them in
00:31:18.780 order to keep things from getting too radical which is insane it's insane like they're driving their own
00:31:26.640 their own voters away well hopefully we can fix this and create a sustainable political movement in
00:31:33.400 this country that is as opposed to the goal of the urban monoculture of the cultural erasure of all
00:31:40.160 the groups i mean we don't hate the urban monoculture i'd love it to stay around i think it has many good
00:31:44.100 ideas i just think it needs to figure out how to be self-sustaining well and to maybe maybe allow for
00:31:50.560 some other opinions to exist as well yes allow for people to get promoted in companies despite
00:31:56.640 disagreeing with it oh i don't know that's asking a lot i mean i yeah i obviously it was a complete
00:32:03.740 nazi thing for elon to do to allow you know people to talk on twitter that disagreed with the urban
00:32:08.220 monoculture yeah i mean you know and of course you know i mean that the idea of hiring white males
00:32:15.240 in organizations anymore is also so passe malcolm no one should do that anymore ever again because i love
00:32:23.220 you i love you too i love you so much um as a white male now i have another memory from college
00:32:31.820 that's like occurring to me where like i was in business school and like one of my white male
00:32:36.020 classmates turned to me and and we were kind of like wait like we are the man now are we the man
00:32:42.000 like it's so funny though in that like that is really flipped that i feel like now we live in this
00:32:47.980 kindocracy where they're like the patriarchy and the man really are no longer capable of you
00:32:55.480 when we were applying for jobs because at one point we had to apply to jobs not that long ago and like
00:33:00.660 we would apply for the same sorts of jobs and i basically would not keep in mind i have a stanford
00:33:04.940 mba and she has a graduate degree from cambridge and you're way stronger than me and way more articulate
00:33:09.900 yeah yeah i i got no offers like never anything she'd get butt loads it is very anyone who doesn't
00:33:19.760 realize how difficult it is for a white man in the job market today is just delusional yeah it is
00:33:25.660 actually quite difficult so even if you're like ultra educated and successful like myself yeah yeah i feel
00:33:33.560 like the only way that like a couple can go um what's the word nuclear family like trad in that
00:33:40.240 way where like they have like a male breadwinner is if he like works in a trade like plumbing or 1.00
00:33:45.760 cell tower maintenance or something we're like yeah i'd really only suggest starting your own
00:33:50.860 companies these days yeah what we're building our school system around anyway i love you to death
00:33:56.660 i love you too gorgeous
00:33:57.800 you