DOGE Reveal： Elon and Vivek's Gameplan for Eliminating Government Waste
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Summary
The Department of Governance and Efficiency (DOGE) is a new agency created by President Trump, and it's designed to get rid of waste in the federal government. But what exactly will the DOGE do? What will it look like? How will it work? And what will it do with the money it's going to be getting? To find out, we talk to writer and editor-in-chief of The Daily Beast, Simone Goldstein.
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Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be talking to you. I think going into this election, a lot of people
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knew that the Department of Governance Efficiency or DOGE run by Elon and Vivek was something that
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was going to be started, something that Trump had promised. But I think a lot of people were like,
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I don't know. Are we going to get concrete details? What's it going to look like? How is
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it going to run? And in this episode, we're going to be going over all of that because it's been
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laid out in pretty explicit detail. So if you're like, what is this department going to do? And
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what's it going to look like? We're going to go over that. But we're going to start or go into this
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by talking about the types of government waste that this is designed to get rid of.
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This will induce, well, it'll induce so much rage in you. Okay, so let's start with
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$28 million in licensing fees for green, quote unquote, camouflage pattern in Afghanistan.
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And that's for the Afghan army. So the Pentagon was criticized for spending $28 million on licensing
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fees for the lush green pattern on Afghan National Army uniforms. The problem, Afghanistan is 98% desert.
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So the bright color would stand out, not what you're looking for in camo. Picking a different color,
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say one of the many others the government already had the rights to that were already used by the
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American forces, plus making alterations like swapping pricey zippers for cheap buttons,
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which saves the taxpayers between $68.6 million and $71.2 million over the course of a decade,
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a government report showed. Here's another example.
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I just, you can't just criticize. If that were an employee, that employee would be
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not only fired, but likely subject to legal action, that level of.
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You would be at a company subject to legal action for that. And I, I think that this is the type of
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thing where people shouldn't just be fired. We should be looking for who's profiting from this,
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because this is almost certainly somebody giving a kick out. That's just like.
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That somebody in the government's making money.
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Because you also hear these stories about people not having sufficiently good equipment,
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like family sending to their people overseas, to their family members overseas,
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who are serving in the military, better equipment, because the stuff that they have isn't good
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Well, okay. You want to hear something else? Paying hipsters to not smoke. When the NIH figured out
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anti-smoking ads weren't resonating with young adults, they decided to go straight to the source.
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That's right. Hipsters. Or as the Commune Project called them, quote,
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a group focused on the alternative music scene, local artists and designers,
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and eclectic self-expression, end quote. The campaign spent $5 million in federal cash
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on Commune-branded beer cozies and other swag, smoke-free events featuring indie bands,
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and artist-designed flyers, and more. Another initiative involved.
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Wait, that doesn't, that doesn't work. Shouldn't the NIH only use evidence-based things? I mean,
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No, it's a vibe-based department now, Simone. It does science, which is real science.
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Science, TM, not whatever we used to call science.
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Another initiative involved paying hipsters $100 to kick the habit of smoking and blog about it.
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They're not going to do that. They're not actually going to do that.
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I would just take $100 and be like, yeah. Like when I had an eating disorder as a teen,
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and my dad was like, you need to go to therapy. I'm like, how about you give me the money you pay
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to a therapist, and I'll just stop being a dick about this. He never actually paid me.
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You actually stopped, by the way. This is actually how they fixed you. You took the money that they
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were going to give the therapist. No, no, no. They didn't end up giving me any money. My dad just
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figured out he can give me a nutrition app, and I would just use that to make sure I was eating
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enough. But like, I had proposed to that, but that's what you propose when you plan on doing nothing
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and just pocketing the money. That is, oh, that makes me so mad.
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Okay. Now, this one makes me so mad, not because it was happening, but because it wasn't televised.
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For more than 20 years, Northwestern University researchers received National Institute of
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Health money to watch hamster fights. The project reportedly received more than $3 million over
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the course of the project. If C-SPAN were replaced with government-funded hamster fights,
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it would be like one of the top channels. Hold on. It gets better. Some of these
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experiments involved injecting the hamsters with steroids, then putting them in the cage
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It was only shut down because of animal activists. And I'm like, this is the thing. You didn't air it.
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I want to see hamsters giving, like, steroids and amphetamines fighting other hamsters.
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Especially if they put them in costumes, you know, the betting markets. I mean, will pickles win,
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Okay. Here's one that'll get you. Empty buildings, because this is actually a big line item.
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Some old schools, firehouses, and offices that aren't being used anymore, but the government
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still holds onto them. There's about 770,000 unused buildings nationwide. This is out of 2016.
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The thing is that those buildings don't just sit there innocently. Instead, they require maintenance,
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such as basic power, lawn mowing, and pipes that won't freeze. This costs $1.7 billion every year,
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according to NPR. A progressive outlet, by the way. We are spending $1.7 billion a year to maintain
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empty buildings that the government won't sell. I think about this a lot when we drive by
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vacant buildings that have mowed lawns and some lights are on. It freaks me out because I know
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how much people pay for mowed lawns, and we don't pay for mowed lawns.
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What? We're like, let's just let the grass freaking grow. We don't have the money for this.
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It's insane. I mow, excuse me, I mow the lawn, Simone. It takes a lot of effort, okay?
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Yeah, it's really cute, though, when you, when, when, when you used to, like, wear the kids on
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your back. Probably not safe, but really cute. They like it. They like it. They like it.
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It's great. I need to dig up that footage. Anyway. By the way, all of this waste that I've been
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talking about, this is all from one article on this. Now we're going to go to a different-
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On the Heritage Foundation? I love their budget and spending articles.
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Oh, no, we're not going to a different one. We're going to go to the Heritage Foundation
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one in just a bit. That's the Reader Digest one that Droge treated.
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Okay. Printing documents nobody reads. Although the Federal Register, a daily document that
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outlines government proposals, decisions, meetings, and more, could theoretically be making
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money through its $929 annual subscriptions, a good deal of the copies are unread. Every
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member of Congress automatically receives a new copy every day, even though the contents
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are available for free and searchable online. A bill considered in 2017 estimated saving $1 million
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a year if the government just stopped automatically printing this.
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One, nobody reads. Two, obviously you need the digital version because then you can just have
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AI summarize it. This is, oh, this is such a great example of a policy or something that
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began like before the internet when people had no other option.
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Well, no, hold on. They had a chance to stop it in 2017 and Congress didn't.
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Of course they didn't. Of course they didn't. Because someone's making money from that printing
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Yeah, somebody's making money and I bet they're related to somebody in Congress or friends with
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Okay. Well, no, you're going to keep being sad here. The International House of Pancakes
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got a half a million dollar grant from the US Department of Health and Human Services
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to build an IHOP in Washington, DC. But no, this wasn't about members of Congress getting a new place
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to eat or a short stack. The initiative was to create 70 full-time jobs for low-income workers who
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qualified for government financial assistance. So this was just to create 70 jobs for workers who were
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So their plan, their plan was just to make an IHOP because that's the only thing these people-
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It was for people who are living this simulated government teat lifestyle.
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Yeah. Where they have a pretend job with food that nobody's buying so that the government can give
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them money and they're already on government assistance.
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Like, why couldn't they have created, like, one of those cool- You know, like, that food truck hallway?
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It's not actually food trucks, but that, like, food hallway in Peru where it's, like, actually cool food.
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But I guess you'd have to have talent to do that.
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But, oh man, that's just really, that's really disappointing. Nothing against pancakes.
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It'd be something like the incoming Trump government where all this competent, cool stuff is happening.
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I love the progressives are, like, seizing. These people are young. They can't possibly know what
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they're doing. And it's like, well, maybe put two and two together there, buddy. All right. So
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in 2015, the Super Bowl, the U.S. Census Bureau paid $2.5 million in taxpayer money to run a 30-second
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ad in the Super Bowl. $2.5 million. Here's another fun one. $4.3 million was spent by the National
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Comedy Center in Jamestown, New York to create, and $1.7 million of that was federal grants,
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To, for, why? Why? Why? Why did, why did we need holograms of-
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They just wanted to light some money on fire. You know,
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Now we're going to go to the Heritage Pieces list of Wasteful Money.
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How many people are just going to drop this before they get to have an apartment work?
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Go to the, if you want to skip this, you can go to the, the little timestamps that we put in the
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videos. Okay. So here are a few examples, because if you're like, okay, some of those grants were from
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the past. Here are a few examples of grants that the administration approved since December,
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Okay. Yeah. Post-pandemic. All right. Sort of the new world.
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45 million for a quote-unquote diversity and inclusion scholarship in Burma.
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Because they, they said that Burma, that this was the argument for it.
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They said Burma had a flawed judicial system with rampant corruption, but that it could probably be fixed with DEI.
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Oh, DEI has fixed everything in the United States.
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Three million for girl-centered climate action in Brazil.
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Girls, because, because guy-centered climate action is so weird.
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Anyone who still doesn't understand that women are treated as a special and, and superior cast in
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our society by the urban monoculture is just like out of their mind.
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Women don't have a great record for actual concrete achievements with regard to sustainability or climate action.
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So I'm a little concerned just in terms of like, if I were going to place a bet on someone
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and they, yeah, we'll just move on, move on, carry on before I say anything.
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So they spent around $125 million, the CDC did, to fund the, quote, racial justice competency model,
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end quote, which, rooted in critical race theories, claims that any outcome gaps between racial groups
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And forcing CRT, critical race theory, onto the medical system.
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Here's another one. Half a million dollars funding an anti-Israel group that fought, quote
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unquote, disinformation. So basically pro-Hamas people.
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We've seen those online. They've even brainwashed some like idiot people who are like, oh no,
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Then, um, yeah. Now I know where their money, so.
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From the Biden administration. I love that the Biden administration couldn't do enough
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Sorry. So for example, the money was given to an organization called Men Action.
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Key members of the group have parroted disinformation themselves, repeating false claims
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made about Israel's fight against Hamas. Let's see what claims they made.
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Oh, so remember how I said they were pro-Hamas and some listeners may have listened to this
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and said, come on, they can't possibly be pro-Hamas. You're just strawmanning them. Well,
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they called Hamas and the people who died in the initial attacks, quote unquote, righteous
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Um, ah, ah, um, so have fun guys. Have fun. It is that bad. Okay. Here's another one. There was
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around $300,000 spent a federal, your tax money for a group of quote unquote, diverse bird watchers.
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That is interesting. It reminds me of the guy who created Central Park Karen. He was himself a
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No, yes. The guy who, yeah, who like had dog treats with him and harassed people to watch dogs.
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By the way, this wasn't even created in response to any sort of evidence of bigotry or
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discrimination among bird watchers. Yeah. But I mean, these days, think about it. If you're in
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one of these organizations and your proposed grant is not for people who are higher in the approved
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hierarchy of whatever oppression Olympics, right. Then you're not going to, you're going to get the
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side eye. So they're just trying to avoid the side eye. I know why they did it. It's just.
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Well, hold on, hold on. The reason they said they needed the money was because they quote
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lacking a sense of community or feeling their voices are not being heard in quote. And I think
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that there's like this class of like, can't the community be about being a birder? Can't
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that? No, no, no, no. Because this is what you're missing, Simone. You're thinking that this is like
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positive actors, but this is clearly like some POC person. And I saw this at like my Stanford
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GSB reunion that there is like a class of POCs in our society and in our world right now
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that just mostly POC women who do this, they basically do nothing but apply to like pointless
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grants and DEI based stuff. And because you can make an, it's a career now you can make a career
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of it. Yeah. No, there's a lot of people just completely sucking off our tax dollars to survive.
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And they live pretty good lives. Like a lot of them are making like half a mil a year or something
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like that. Wow. Keep in mind that one is just one year for just one person. And that was over
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$300,000 they got for birdwatching. I mean, yeah. Did you really think they were doing that much?
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You know, birdwatching is, I think one of those things that you can kind of just go on forever.
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Well, so what happens when you are constantly handing out government money like this, you get a
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little thing called inflation. Okay. And we've talked about this before, but I'll just go into it
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again. Since January, 2021, the price of cereal and baked goods has risen 25%.
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Chicken has also risen 25%. Uh, no, sorry. Chicken has risen 24%. Refueling like gas, 45%.
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And electricity, 31%. If you want to compare this to different presidential administrations,
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this is like the highest it's ever been since Carter. Go check our video where we do that,
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where Trump had some of the lowest increases. And so obviously this is hitting your average
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citizen more. So how is Doge going to fix this? Go into it, Simone.
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Right. So on November 20th, Elon Musk and Vivek Romaswamy posted an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal
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outlining their plan. And already they've been really transparent about what they're doing.
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They tweet, they have a tweet, sorry. They have an account on X where they publish updates and
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I'm sorry. It's really difficult. It's, it was, it's been a long run, you know, but you're right.
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Yeah. I shouldn't deadname it. Anyway, it has, it has an account on X. It's very transparent. And if,
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by the way, you want to submit your CV to Doge, you should do so through X. You submit a DM to the
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Doge account on X. That seems to be the only way to get your resume through Malcolm. And I just
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assume that someone there is going to review all the applications at once. Obviously we submitted
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our CVs. It hasn't been viewed yet, just FYI, but still just so you know, because I think a lot of
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people would like to contribute just like we would. So Elon Musk and Vivek Romaswamy are the figureheads
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of this, of course, but they're not going to be paid by this. And they're like pure volunteers.
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They're doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, which is saying a lot because these people
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are actually very important, actually doing really important other things and have a lot of other
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things they could be doing with their time. But honestly, I can't imagine a more meaningful thing
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someone could do, especially considering our government spending now. And you threw out all
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these joke ideas, right? But when you look at the reality, we haven't had a balanced budget. I think
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we haven't, we've outpaced our tax revenue and spending from 2002 onward. So 2001 was the last
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year where we didn't overspend for what we got in tax revenue. And when you look at what we spend
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already on things, we probably couldn't cut like defense, social security, like sort of debt payments,
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just service on our debt. We can't really afford to not cut things at this point at all.
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So just, this is so important. What they're going to do is identify and hire a team of small
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government workers who are going to, through appointments within departments and then working
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with DOGE, perhaps through the Office of Budget and Management, make this happen. There are three
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things that they're going to do to reduce the size of government.
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So the first thing is they're going to make regulatory rescissions. The second thing is
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they're going to make administrative reductions. And the third thing is they're going to find cost
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savings. So one thing they're going to do is, oh, another thing they note in their op-ed is that
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they're going to drive change through executive action based on existing legislation and not create
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new legislation, which is awesome. So their whole principle here is, is take away and remove
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Actually, hold on. Before you go further with this, I want to make a point here. So we were
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talking with one of the guys who wrote a project 2025, one of the lead offers of that. And they
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had in the last administration tried to fire people. And they were basically like, look, even as a lawyer
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who specializes in firing people for the government, it is near impossible. The way that they are
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approaching this is so clever because it is actually really hard. And so basically they're
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only focusing on the areas that, that they can get away with firing people without any legal
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Yeah, no, the, the, the intelligence with which this is being approached is really exciting.
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And the transparency as well, like it is, is very clearly outlined in this wall street journal article.
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So one of the cool things that they're doing, and I'm really excited about this is they're using
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two key court decisions. One being Loper Bright versus Raimondo, which was only in 2024 this year.
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And the other being West Virginia versus environmental protection agency, a ruling in 2022 to demonstrate
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that agencies are imposing unauthorized and unlawful regulation. So they're able to use key court
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decisions to be like, you can't do this anymore. So one of the things they're going to do is like I
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mentioned earlier, embed personnel appointments in government agencies to sniff out and counter
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unlawful regulation. And they're also going to presumably leverage AI to help find things that
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need to be removed. So they're going to use lawyers to find regulations and just, just to make it clear.
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So laws, laws and legislation, this is stuff that is passed by Congress. This is stuff that elected
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officials have put together and said, this is the rule. Regulation is what a government agency
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creates to execute on that law. So these are very different things and regulatory bloat.
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I mean, there's a lot of legislation that has made our lives harder, but regulatory bloat is what has
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gone into like clown world territory until like it, this is completely insane territory, just to make
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that clear. So what the lawyers are going to do is sniff out regulation that clearly oversteps that is
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illicit that should not be permitted and they're going to remove it. So all illicit regulation
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identified is first going to be presented to Trump. And then he's going to pause their enforcement
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and then initiate review and rescission process. So basically anything that isn't right is going to
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be paused and maybe it matters, right? Like there could be an Overton fence situation with some of
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these, right? Sorry, not Overton. There could be a Chesterton's fence situation with some of these
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regulations. Oh no, I think some of these, like as soon as somebody's like, you need to start showing
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me receipts, it's going to just, the payments are going to stop. You're referring to a different part
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of this process, which I'll get to later. Oh, okay. Okay. Continue. So that is what the lawyers are going to
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do. And then at the same time, appointees in these departments who are not the legal experts are
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basically going to go through and functionally look at the operations of these departments and decide
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what is the minimum number of employees that's needed to actually get the stuff done that they need to do,
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like their actual mandate as organizations. Why is this important? This is important because
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there are basically laws in place that prevent presidential administrations from firing specific
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people to avoid retaliatory firings. Like, you know, every time some new administration comes into
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office, they fire everyone who's not loyal. So you can't do targeted firings. What you can do
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is massive layoffs in, in, in service of proper operation of these agencies. Yes. So this isn't no
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one specific is going to be fired. There's just going to be massive layoffs. And so you're going
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to see something similar happening with what kind of happened to Twitter when Elon Musk came in and
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was like, well, I'm just going to get rid of what, like 80% of the employees. I think we only need
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about 20% to make this run and he made it happen. And that's the other really clever thing about this
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is there used to be this perception, like, well, you can't really fire government workers
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because it would, you know, there's these rules against retaliatory firings. You can,
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but it has to be massive layoffs. So that's one of the things that these appointees are going to be
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doing. So that is, that is one element of it. It's basically, I'm categorizing it in my head as like
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department-based work. Then there's the procurement-based work. And I'm super excited about this because as you
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know, we, with our travel business have done a lot of procurement responses to government
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agencies. Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. The DEI shit.
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It's, it's, well, it's not just that. So we, we, through our travel business have responded to a
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bunch of state-based agencies, universities, anything from like child protective services to
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like a commerce department to their requests for travel services. And the process sometimes works well,
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usually is super corrupt, super bureaucratic. They've already chosen basically who they're going to work
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with. There's all this like stuff that's going on in the background. It is really screwed up,
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but also like procurement in general is very corrupt. As they say in the op-ed, the federal
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government's procurement process is badly broken. Many federal contracts have gone unexamined for
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years. Large scale audits conducted during a temporary suspension of payments would yield
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significant savings. So I didn't know this, but they point out in the op-ed that the Pentagon
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recently failed its seventh consecutive audit, seven audits. So the Pentagon hasn't known where
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its money is going for seven years? Yes. This suggests that the agency's leadership has little
00:24:47.600
idea how its annual budget of more than 800 billion with a B is spent. Like the idea that the Pentagon
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is failing its audits is insane. So what Doge is going to do is basically suspend payments and base,
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if you don't have receipts, if you can't back it up, if you can't pass an audit,
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then they're not going to pay for it, which I think is so eminently reasonable. And there's kind of,
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this begs the question, why, why wasn't this just how things were done? Like, if you fail an audit,
00:25:30.700
like if you can't give receipts, I think, you know, most, most people who've worked for someone
00:25:35.000
else or even like been reimbursed by other people ever understand that if you can't give receipts
00:25:40.600
and provide proof of how you spent the money, you're not going to get reimbursed. The fact that
00:25:46.460
governmental agencies have, for some reason, not needed. Just like, we get to ask for money when
00:25:52.320
we want money. Just like money, please. Just always. That's not how it should work. Yes. That's not,
00:25:58.500
that should not be our government. So I'm super excited about the procurements, the procurements
00:26:02.680
work. That is, that is. We need to have a, they are the worst line here too. They are the worst.
00:26:08.540
Oh my God. Oh, it just drives me so crazy. And then the third thing that Doge is going to do
00:26:15.500
is target the 500 billion plus in ad or annual federal expenditures that are unauthorized by
00:26:22.220
Congress. So this is another one of those things where they don't have to go through Congress to
00:26:26.460
get this done. This is another manner in which they don't have to get Congress to approve of what's
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going on. This is not money that Congress has control over. It's just, it's just federal spending.
00:26:35.200
And that can be easily cut in many ways. There's just a wide array of programs that are associated
00:26:41.100
with this. So this is all going to happen, by the way, over 18 months. And then it's over.
00:26:47.660
I love that this isn't a permanent program either. They're not adding more government bloat. They're
00:26:51.040
like, okay, we're going to have a limited program here. It's going to run for this long.
00:26:54.680
And then it sunsets. It sunsets on July 4th, 2026, which is just a great way that, that is our
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independence day in the United States. So it is, it's romantic. It's lovely. It's fitting.
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We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests.
00:27:15.880
Perhaps it's fate that today is the 4th of July and you will once again be fighting for
00:27:21.780
our freedom from tyranny, oppression, persecution. We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.
00:27:28.520
I mean, I'm even more excited after the ridiculous spending stories you shared, but
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I want to, I know I want to not just get hired by this department. I want to get hired by this
00:27:37.280
department and then go to other countries and implement this program.
00:27:40.480
Every country needs to fucking implement this program.
00:27:42.860
And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday,
00:27:48.560
but as the day when the world declared in one voice, we will not go quietly into the night.
00:27:54.020
We will not vanish without a fight. We're going to live on. Today, we celebrate our independence day.
00:28:07.420
Yeah, that's what I was going to say. It was Argentina. It was Argentina.
00:28:09.900
Argentina is already into this process and it has already helped immensely with their inflation.
00:28:15.340
So, I mean, the wave is growing, right? Like, it's beginning. It's starting.
00:28:23.340
Well, we've also got to be very careful about this. And this is something I saw by another
00:28:27.000
popular right-wing YouTuber who I like, Ark something. He's mostly a Warhammer guy,
00:28:32.500
and now he's, like, a right-wing Warhammer guy. I don't know.
00:28:36.000
He was saying recently, when doing a talk over an Asmogold video, who's a centrist,
00:28:40.360
i.e. extreme rightist by everyone else's standards.
00:28:43.100
He's the guy who goes over the news, right? Who just seems like a...
00:28:45.920
He just, like, watches stuff and talks over it. So, this is a guy talking over a guy who's talking over news.
00:28:50.120
God. Can I say how disappointed I am that Asmogold has never done any of our content before?
00:28:58.780
But anyway, so, Asmogold... Anyway, so, they were, were...
00:29:03.860
Oh, he was saying, now that we are in ascension, because this was on, like, the vibe shift that
00:29:08.740
has happened post the Trump election, and there has been a vibe shift, and we should probably do
00:29:14.020
He was saying that, like, now we have this vibe shift where the anti-woke faction is in
00:29:20.200
ascension, and the woke faction is no longer, like, obviously dominant in every respect.
00:29:26.720
They're still dominant in a lot of respects. They still control a lot of positions of power
00:29:30.320
at major corporations. They still control the news media, but nobody listens to that anymore.
00:29:34.520
They're all being, like, sold off for scrap metal.
00:29:54.100
But I need, I need to have a thing here from the brave little toaster at the shopping...
00:30:03.360
God, that's such a stressful movie! Who can handle that movie? Man, I'm having, like,
00:30:09.160
the shakes just thinking about it. Don't do this to me.
00:30:11.880
It's the worst thing you remember if you rewatch it.
00:30:15.580
I took the kids on the stairs with the hope he was happy till I heard him say...
00:30:23.260
But anyway, he was saying that now that we are in ascension, the left only controlled the sort
00:30:35.960
of, like, popular narrative in this country, like the urban monoculture, as we call it,
00:30:39.240
only controlled things for about 10 years before losing it. It's one of the shortest lengths of
00:30:44.140
time that any culture has ever controlled things.
00:30:46.560
Well, it's, from top to bottom, unsustainable and toxic.
00:30:51.180
Well, the whip mad was power so quickly in terms of enforcing their way of life on other
00:30:57.240
Well, and any culture that eats itself in the way that it did, that attacks its own so
00:31:02.060
systematically in the way it did. I mean, they just ran out of people.
00:31:05.020
That's the core of the problem. The problem is, is imposing their cultural values when they
00:31:10.800
are unpopular and stupid on people in different cultural groups. And parts of the right right
00:31:17.820
now, and this is something that we need to take in mind as we become the dominant faction
00:31:22.580
in this country, or potentially in the world, is we need to not overstep in the way that
00:31:30.540
And any part of the right that attempts to, or thinks they're signaling status by doing
00:31:35.660
that, needs to be stomped down so hard in the way that the left should have been treating
00:31:42.560
the trans groomers. Whenever one of these trans groomers, like, whenever they were like,
00:31:47.240
oh, it's okay to, and I'll put the little skit here by Freedom Tunes, to be, you know,
00:31:52.320
teaching your kids something, and then the parents are like, can I see the curriculum,
00:31:55.480
the sex ed curriculum? Oh, no, we can't show you that. Why don't you want to show the parents?
00:31:59.760
Teddy, a 32-year-old public school teacher who says they like to help children explore
00:32:06.560
their sexual identity. Why don't you take a seat over there?
00:32:11.820
Tutoring? Is that why you sent a curriculum to this 12-year-old girl and told her not to
00:32:22.540
A lesson about sex she can't share with her parents. I mean, you understand how this sounds,
00:32:29.220
So I suppose you wouldn't mind if we educated ourselves with it now.
00:32:32.940
Now, why does this curriculum you sent include illustrations of minors engaged in lewd acts?
00:32:40.780
You've been on our watch list for a while, bud.
00:32:51.860
Like, the left should have, when this shit was going down, been like, excuse me?
00:32:55.920
Why are you hiding your sex ed curriculum from parents?
00:33:02.340
The right needs to be acting the same way for stuff that is equally unpopular.
00:33:10.360
Or we will not be able to maintain this position of cultural hegemony.
00:33:20.760
Well, do you have any final thoughts on all this, Simone?
00:33:28.760
I have documented experience disappointing people in Washington, D.C.
00:33:34.460
because one of my jobs at the cupcake shop, at Georgetown Cupcake, was to go out whenever,
00:33:44.520
And people had been waiting in line for two plus hours for their favorite cupcake.
00:33:48.580
I was the one who would go out and tell them...
00:33:51.360
She went to, like, a viral cupcake shop that had a reality show about it.
00:33:54.960
We ditched our corporate jobs to follow our dream.
00:33:59.420
We'll wait in line for over an hour for our cupcakes.
00:34:30.200
You know Tinkerbell, where everyone's like, I believe in Tinkerbell.
00:34:37.320
All of the lefties, I'm like, I hate the Cullensists.
00:34:47.720
No, I mean, and keep in mind, they do mention in the Wall Street Journal article that they
00:34:50.920
plan on setting up retraining programs and other programs to help these people find jobs.
00:34:55.420
I don't like the idea of people losing their jobs.
00:34:58.140
And also, most government workers I've come into contact with are great and talented people.
00:35:05.580
But honestly, their lives are being ruined by, you know, what they're doing.
00:35:10.720
And also, we have to remember, as we think about jobs that are being lost and eliminated
00:35:15.060
now, just how many jobs are being prevented by this regulation right now.
00:35:20.240
So, the guys on All In, on the All In podcast, are talking about this in the Wall Street Journal
00:35:25.480
And they were talking about how this bloated regulation disproportionately hurts people
00:35:29.880
on the front lines and people who are less wealthy and of lower means.
00:35:32.900
They were pointing out how it costs like $7,000 to become a hair cutter in the United States.
00:35:40.120
Just like the regulatory bloat that goes into that now.
00:35:43.540
That makes it prohibitively difficult for people to just do basic professions.
00:35:47.200
You know, I freaking cut your hair in, like, the back of our house every two weeks or so.
00:35:52.380
But if I were to do it for money, the amount of money I would have to put down would, like,
00:35:56.400
throw us back for months in terms of being able to afford food.
00:36:02.040
So, you know, people may, this is going to be unpopular, right?
00:36:05.080
There's going to be, there are going to be mass layoffs.
00:36:07.420
People are going to have a ton of butthurt about it.
00:36:11.060
And a lot of people's lives will be severely disrupted by it.
00:36:13.960
But at the same time, already, millions of people's lives are going to be severely disrupted.
00:36:18.860
Millions of people's lives are being ruined by this.
00:36:25.180
They're not able to start businesses or get jobs.
00:36:26.940
They went into lines of work that were designed to parasitize the American taxpayer.
00:36:31.800
And I think that, this is the thing, we have friends in this category.
00:36:36.100
And they tell me, oh, yeah, I've spent the last year, you know, I get paid, like, a quarter million dollars a year.
00:36:45.400
My job is writing reports about the environment.
00:36:51.000
And it's like, look, like, I like you as a human being.
00:36:54.000
But, like, you know that, like, you shouldn't have this job, right?
00:36:57.280
Like, it's terrifying that the federal government is burning taxpayer money like this.
00:37:01.700
Well, and, yeah, this is a tragedy of the commons issue.
00:37:03.940
Like, we're talking about a field here that, you know, is, or some kind of natural resource that is being drained.
00:37:10.320
Like, we are going to run out of money to pay Social Security.
00:37:12.880
We're going to run out of money to maintain basic infrastructure.
00:37:17.060
We won't even be able to math-euthanize the elderly when we need to.
00:37:21.360
We'll have to walk around with a pellet gun like they do at, like, farms,
00:37:34.260
So, I mean, like, continuing to do this is less humane, very technically, and very realistically, than mass-firing people.
00:37:44.220
And keep in mind, like, a lot of these people are going to end up, you know,
00:37:46.580
they're going to pressure people to leave their jobs through early retirement incentives.
00:37:52.860
One of the things they're going to do, which is smart, although, you know,
00:37:55.480
I still hate office work in general, but, you know,
00:37:57.620
obviously we'll gladly show up anywhere where people want us if we can serve.
00:38:01.320
But they're just going to, they're going to say, well, you know what?
00:38:03.220
If you don't want to come into the office and you can't work here anymore,
00:38:08.920
Or, sorry, not layoffs, but independent quits anyway,
00:38:12.600
because people are so used to working from home and they don't want to go into an office.
00:38:16.440
So, they're going to go this, this, or do this as nicely as they can.
00:38:21.160
You know, they're going to try to like do the breakup version where you just kind of
00:38:25.220
act like a dick boyfriend and then like hope that she leaves you.
00:38:28.340
They're going to incentivize people to retire early and then they're going to mass lay off
00:38:36.620
Again, if you want to be involved, like if you're listening to this and you're like,
00:38:39.400
I'm happy to move wherever I need to go and put in 80 hours a week and do what it takes
00:38:45.260
to help in this 18 month initiative, which is going to change the course of the future
00:38:49.960
of our country and the world, because if this works to the United States, it's going to be
00:39:01.740
We hope that you hope to serve too, if you are competent and able to contribute in some way.
00:39:07.320
So exactly when, and we've also let our contacts know it was in the department, but they seem
00:39:13.440
a little too high level to be involved in hiring, which is unfortunate.
00:39:26.120
I wonder who's actually making these decisions.
00:39:31.740
Cause like you are one of the most qualified people I could imagine to do this.
00:39:41.360
Oh, she'd be, she, she could do the whole thing by herself.
00:39:49.300
I know what she used to do in her spare time when she had another job.
00:39:54.980
She acquired some company or something and she'd sit around just for fun and listen to random
00:40:02.840
service people's calls to fire people who weren't doing a good enough job at their, at
00:40:16.620
And I'm also like, I don't, I don't know how you're going to, but I know like there are
00:40:21.320
not that many people in the world who would do as good of a job with this as you would.
00:40:24.220
And I'm like, ah, how do I just get you hired for this?
00:40:29.840
I mean, there's other things we'd be better at working in the, whatever the education department
00:40:35.480
The American Academy, but no one, no one knows what that's going to be yet.
00:40:42.160
If you're listening to this and you're hoping to get in, um, and you're trying to find inroads
00:40:46.320
to email us through our foundation and I'll put you on a list of people to inform if we
00:40:51.980
learn of anything more concrete on how to like, say I'm doing my part, I'll, I'll sign
00:40:57.100
up, but yeah, right now, all I can say is go to X.com and search Doge, which you can't
00:41:21.980
I, I, I, I, and I've just been, by the way, I've just been like during this call, like
00:41:26.340
reading like random headlines and stuff like this.
00:41:34.920
So RFK will cut prescription drugs, increase weed and psychedelic access by a hostile media
00:41:43.840
Well, there was some point at which he had made some kind of allusion to putting people,
00:41:51.440
um, who are addicted to ADHD medication in, into work camp.
00:41:55.760
And like, someone tweeted that like, that is the worst missed opportunity in the entire
00:42:00.560
Like the one time you could have used the term concentration camps.
00:42:09.480
In my class, you need to be able to concentrate.
00:42:12.680
Concentration is the key to succeeding in my class.
00:42:15.000
Maybe we'll have to send him to concentration camp.
00:42:19.880
I kind of have the South Park clip about that here.
00:42:22.120
But also, RFK, just, I didn't know anything about him before this election cycle.
00:42:29.860
But, and I also hope that people, like, I feel like a lot of people had negative opinions
00:42:34.940
on Elon going into all this because they had sort of believed the random influencers
00:42:42.180
Like, has enough of him come through yet that you're like, oh yeah, he just sits around playing
00:42:53.140
But like, do you know he's the number one ranked player in the world right now?
00:42:55.900
No, I'm not sure if it's him or if it's somebody he's paying, but they do know that at least
00:43:07.800
Well, you know, everyone has their style and that is his style.
00:43:13.600
But yeah, I mean, people who bet against him don't have a great record on winning,
00:43:20.480
No, I think a lot of this stuff, a lot of people are beginning to be like, oh, he's kind
00:43:25.780
And it's like, we've been telling you guys that.
00:43:31.060
And it's not like he's living for selfish reasons.
00:43:37.620
He genuinely cares about long-term human flourishing.
00:43:43.660
It's my seal of approval that no one ever asked for or cares about.
00:43:48.140
I think a lot of people care about your seal of approval.
00:43:55.540
Well, that tells you a lot about this show's moral center.
00:44:00.140
Well, I think Octavian's probably this show's moral center, actually.
00:44:14.100
I am so excited to introduce you guys to them as they become more people and better able
00:44:28.160
Titan, you and you are going through a rough patch.