Based Camp - Europe's Far-Right Now the Most Popular Party

00:00:00.000 hello simone today we are going to be going over uh an article in the economist and a few other

00:00:05.440 papers that looked at the rise of the far right in europe now being the single largest political

00:00:14.160 party faction in all of europe not only that but it is higher now than it was at any point from the

00:00:22.960 night to the 1950s i.e during the rise of the actual nazis by and and and the fascists in italy and all

00:00:33.680 of that now i will say here really fascinatingly that this is bs that the far right that they're

00:00:40.480 talking about like the far right before we go too far into this like the afd in germany right is a

00:00:46.320 party that they're like this is just like the nazis and the right just keeps going further right

00:00:52.640 and the head of it is a gay woman who is it a long term with children maybe not marriage but long 0.53

00:01:01.120 term with children interracial relationship with another woman and they live mostly in switzerland 0.99

00:01:10.880 not in germany what that is how european nationalist racist and homophobic this party is oh my gosh

00:01:21.920 but i had no idea that's crazy that she also doesn't live that much in germany yeah not that 0.55

00:01:29.040 dedicated to german identity she's just like hey but like well i don't know i mean with the direction

00:01:33.520 germany's going in can you blame her she's it's kind of a testament to where they are right now oh yeah

00:01:38.860 absolutely so we're gonna go over this graph actually like let's start with this graph i find it

00:01:43.360 really interesting so first the question is is who is the hard right gaining from like who has been

00:01:50.560 losing when did the hard right start going up so the hard right really started going up in 2010

00:01:57.440 and we see this exponential rise since then especially in the past couple years and was no

00:02:04.320 real losses in that period now keep in mind that's a long period that's a period of 15 years yeah quite a

00:02:11.040 run and was trump advance absolutely killing it i expected to continue to rise i think like i think

00:02:18.080 when we open like calls with people i don't even know are like political now in europe they're like

00:02:22.240 oh my god i'm so envious of things in the us right now and i'm on this great thread with all my class at

00:02:27.680 the gsp and they're all these you know corpos this is the stanford graduate school of business

00:02:31.840 and they're like freaking out about this and like calling everyone like a nazi and dehumanizing the

00:02:36.480 other side as much as they can and occasionally the right will be like well i really don't know

00:02:41.680 if it's like helpful to like dehumanize your opponents especially the people who are supporting

00:02:47.920 the rallies in our major cities saying from the river to the sea or you know when you guys didn't

00:02:52.800 even hold a primary this election cycle or when you guys literally controlled all of the media and

00:02:58.560 every social platform or when you guys whatever any of those things are like i don't know it's helpful

00:03:04.880 but like they know no they're like and they're always so meek the voices on the right they're

00:03:08.800 like just maybe could we good morning philadelphia with us today is malcolm collins local business

00:03:16.080 owner and a man with a harrowing story that's right a few days ago three corpos sent me a chain of

00:03:23.680 emails slagging off our boys elon and trump i want to be very clear about something um these pieces of 0.97

00:03:31.200 garbage they don't know who the hell they're dealing with so these punks yes i don't know if 0.99

00:03:35.280 they wanted money or they wanted something more sexual anyway i started maggieing wow i don't see 0.99

00:03:42.000 so good so i missed anyway you guys all think i'm a hero and i'll accept that responsibility now were

00:03:49.120 you concerned though that an innocent bystander may have crime in this city is out of control thank god

00:03:55.440 we've got two presidents with trump and elon absolutely killing it i don't think one would

00:04:01.040 have done it i'm gonna go out and buy some more okay and i think you should too don't be a victim

00:04:06.960 it's time to fight back thank you but it does give me heart it does make me feel good because i know

00:04:12.400 that these are you know stanford business school all these people run major companies some of them

00:04:16.320 have a ton of money and that means that they're competent people and they still are so diluted that

00:04:20.640 they can't even like play ball was like the actual ball they're playing ball was like an imaginary the

00:04:25.440 right is homophobic ball yeah that like it's like okay well okay you guys aren't even on on the court

00:04:31.360 now right like you guys are in some other zone but i wanted to talk about where we're rising from so

00:04:36.320 since the 2010s who are we eating right now so the conservative vote has gone down dramatically

00:04:42.240 well this is where i get a little confused because if i look at this without having a lot of context

00:04:46.400 i see basically a mirror rise in the hard right and a mirror fall and conservatives is this not

00:04:52.800 just the media or other players reframing conservative as hard right because these days

00:04:58.480 it seems like very moderate your fall which you also have as a drop in the social democrats

00:05:03.360 yeah which is the center left party so it's not just eating the conservatives if you look at the

00:05:09.120 major jumps like the major jump that happened around it's a bit hard to tell when that is like

00:05:13.760 i want to say 2015 maybe or 2016 that happened at the expense of the social democrats more

00:05:20.240 than at the expense of the conservatives it's only the most recent jump that was mostly at the expense

00:05:24.720 of the conservatives but isn't it more broadly that anyone who is center-right or moderately right is now

00:05:31.840 being framed as crazy far rights and but what's really happening is the left is taking increasingly extreme

00:05:38.160 stances forcing people into that not exactly but we'll go over the data on both of this really what

00:05:44.560 we're seeing is the hard right has become an anti-authoritarian party and an anti-establishment

00:05:50.720 party and the other side like just fundamentally doesn't understand how authoritarian they've become

00:05:56.400 in their impulses because and they're like what we're not authoritarian we only do it to the inhumans 0.98

00:06:02.880 the deplorables though whatever they want to call them right you know but anyway let's read from

00:06:07.280 this article because i found it really interesting okay on february 23rd more than

00:06:11.120 one in five german voters supported the hard right alternative for germany afd the party which is under

00:06:16.400 surveillance by domestic spooks for suspected extremism doubled his vote share since the previous

00:06:21.680 election this is so much like when they're like donald trump convicted felon and i'm like what is he

00:06:25.200 he fell in for like why why are they under uh uh surveillance it's like so you're saying that

00:06:30.320 you've become a fascist police state and this is the opposition to the fascist police state that's

00:06:37.040 what you're saying when you're saying the spooks are watching them when they are the party run by an 0.97

00:06:43.920 interracial relationship lesbian with kids you know like what are you what are you talking about not so

00:06:52.800 long ago this would have been unthinkable in a stable wealthy and moderate country in the heart

00:06:57.120 of europe but over the past 15 years hard right parties have made substantial gains across the

00:07:01.760 region also an interesting thing in this graph i was looking at some reddit notes on this where

00:07:06.320 somebody was like well you can see the massive shift comes after the syrian refugee crisis in 2015

00:07:11.040 this is when you see a drop in in democrats but in australia the freedom party fpo also won

00:07:18.320 28.9 of the votes in september 2024 and they're considered a far right party and that was the most

00:07:24.240 votes they have gotten since world war ii um so you see this everywhere and in the united states we

00:07:30.800 didn't get hit by the syrian refugee in the same way as europe did and somebody else said in reddit and

00:07:35.440 i thought that this is really good because this is somebody who's like anti the far right said this

00:07:38.560 and i saw that it was a really good point hard right or anti-establishment because all the russian

00:07:43.600 interference and social media bubbles aside the political establishment have failed to find

00:07:48.000 a solid answer for over a decade to growing discontent in society because the answers of

00:07:52.800 the hard right parties and the insistence on putting blame on migrants are wrong they are the

00:07:57.520 only parties providing answers that are not 40 pages long and mired in excuses and diversion of

00:08:02.000 blame and that's true and trump isn't even being like all anti he's just handling the effing

00:08:08.080 problem right now and on my email feed the corpos are freaking out hey but they benefit from

00:08:14.160 the existing social hierarchy that's when when your corpo right if you have a position in the

00:08:19.200 establishment no one was even like i saw what happened at twitter and you're thinking of you

00:08:23.680 mean the substantial reduction of staff that exactly the same quality of product being given to us a

00:08:30.240 few months later she's like it's only being used to promote one point of view i'm sorry i see both

00:08:36.080 point of views now if anything the only reason it's only one point of view is the left has

00:08:40.640 self-silence themselves by going to blue sky and that's only recently it used to be you could only

00:08:46.320 see one point of view i agree with that but you know they say to a person who has lived with privilege

00:08:52.560 having that privilege removed feels like oppression anyway back to the article the origin of europe's

00:08:58.240 recent hard right surge is difficult to pin down some theorize that beginning with the financial crisis

00:09:04.640 of 2008 and 2009 voters were driven away from the mainstream and towards the extremes by economic

00:09:09.600 anxiety but this is mixed europe is as the richest has ever been

00:09:17.200 if you look at economic growth when contrasted with the us europe has been basically static

00:09:22.720 since the 2000s stagnant yeah and i think it's just the regulation the regulatory environment

00:09:28.640 is so stifling they cannot thrive economically well it's that and i think they create an environment which

00:09:36.880 is actively hostile to productive individuals if you're a country that gives money to non-productive

00:09:42.640 individuals from productive individuals but the evidence for this is mixed europe is the richest

00:09:48.400 it's ever been and hard right parties often win substantial support in the well-to-do you could

00:09:53.440 hardly look at the netherlands one of the wealthiest countries in the world per person

00:09:57.200 incite economic anxiety to explain this hard right led government yeah but you could look at their immigrant 1.00

00:10:02.160 situation like it's not exactly hard it's like you beat someone with a chair and you're now like

00:10:07.680 why does this person hate me they they is it all the grapes they can't care that much about the grapes and

00:10:14.560 terror attacks that stuff is like a minor minor minor anyway another often heard argument is that the hard

00:10:24.800 right represents a backlash against the migrant crisis that came to a head in 2015. irregular

00:10:30.800 immigration to some european countries has remained very high again this theory is imperfect in germany

00:10:36.800 like many other countries the hard right support comes predominantly from areas with little immigration

00:10:42.320 in fact the association between immigration rates and support for the hard right is weaker than

00:10:45.760 you might expect ireland has one of the largest foreign-born populations in europe for example

00:10:50.480 but no major hard right party the inverse is true of poland yes except it might be that parties with

00:10:57.200 a natural more right-leaning tendency would keep out the immigrants at higher rates and when they 1.00

00:11:02.640 don't have this tendency yet they have some degree of self-preservation high degrees of immigrants cause 1.00

00:11:08.640 them to turn hybrid it's just that ireland has no degree of self-preservation anymore and i direct

00:11:14.000 your attention to these maps and graphs here because i find them very interesting so this is a map of the

00:11:19.600 percent of hard right you have was in a country's voting population uh with the high ones being

00:11:25.680 france italy poland and hungary very high in germany turning higher in norway turning higher

00:11:31.600 sorry not in sweden or norway yeah i never know which one's which i want to say norway

00:11:35.920 norway and finland and then you know in the low end you have countries like ireland

00:11:40.640 spain it's that greece yeah yeah right and i long for this earth anyway so if we look at the

00:11:48.320 map here you see the european democracy's hard right vote share in population born abroad and there

00:11:56.160 is definitely a core inverse correlation here yeah interesting

00:12:04.240 and yet despite the growing popularity our analyst shows they remain underrepresented in government

00:12:10.800 grouping together hard right as a single ideology across various countries is tricky

00:12:15.680 we drew on the research of the university of bremen and populist list a pan-european data set of

00:12:21.440 populist political parties to form a list we then track the representation since 1920.

00:12:26.320 based on our list we found europe's hard right parties received 20 of the vote in recent elections

00:12:31.280 winning 23 of parliamentary seats but they make up just 14 so 23 of the votes 14 of the seats held by

00:12:39.600 parties that are in power just two heads of government gregory maloney of italy and victor

00:12:43.920 orban of hungary come from hard right parties on our list see chart three now i note here this means

00:12:50.080 that the hard right is going to get much worse in europe than it is in the united states wait why

00:12:55.920 you have no they won control showed themselves to not be perfect and then lost control issue oh yeah

00:13:02.800 yeah they're not giving they're not being given the opportunity to disappoint people yes oh i don't

00:13:08.960 know maybe that's for the best what happened with you know trump getting into office and like delivering

00:13:14.000 and delivering and delivering he hasn't stopped yet so maybe oh i'm loving it i'm loving it everyone

00:13:18.720 i know is what is it doge have like a 70 approval rating or yeah over 70 approval rating of the american

00:13:24.000 public so people love doge and then when federal workers complain to them they're like oh that sounds

00:13:30.080 so sorry that you aren't getting your subscription from me anymore yeah i guess that's what it's

00:13:36.720 like for me every day for my entire career in the private sector

00:13:42.400 i love it they're like no higher up in a company would ever ask employees what they're doing on a

00:13:46.880 daily basis like yes they would yeah are you out of your mind like how are you that disillusioned and

00:13:56.080 i'm realizing that people who are saying this are people in media they've never had their boss

00:13:59.840 ask for for metrics is what it is oh i don't know i think people in media have have gone through

00:14:05.920 quite a few layoffs and firings and they're very aware of the fact that if they cannot drive views

00:14:10.240 they are out so well yeah but it's just views they don't have their boss asking them how are

00:14:14.240 you driving views why are you doing oh yeah like what are you doing what what actions are you taking

00:14:18.880 yeah it's more just results driven yeah and so they're really disconnected from the way the actual

00:14:24.240 corporate world works we we by the way as people who run companies have asked all the employees in

00:14:29.200 our company what are you doing every week at times when we were going through specific like improvement

00:14:34.240 issues or absolutely yeah yeah okay so this has drawn and i love this they're like they're not

00:14:40.080 getting in the office at the same rate which is a good thing right and then they're like but but

00:14:44.880 this has drawn condemnation from hard right populists around the world jd vance america's vice

00:14:49.440 president has criticized european leaders for quote shutting people out of the political process

00:14:54.480 in quote which they have indeed in some countries the hard right has been locked out of power in

00:14:59.280 germany for example the afd is excluded from coalitions by the firewall that other parties maintain around

00:15:04.880 it that has done little to put voters off but this is hardly undemocratic how is it not undemocratic

00:15:10.960 and then i love this they say remember one of the reasons the hard right hates you is because

00:15:16.160 you keep lying media but let's make this little fun lie more than three quarters so more than 75 percent

00:15:24.320 of germans say that they oppose the country's biggest elected party the christian democratic union

00:15:31.120 forming a coalition with the afd in other words the firewall is not a stitch up by liberal elites

00:15:37.280 okay so over 75 percent of the country doesn't support them crossing the firewall but

00:15:45.440 21 percent voted for the afd that is completely implausible 1.00

00:15:54.480 oh my god it's like are you like just assume that people are idiots 1.00

00:16:01.840 yeah i mean it's only going to get worse if this gaslighting continues yeah it's so much worse 1.00

00:16:07.760 even with minority support the hard right is disrupting politics across europe leaving the

00:16:15.200 question of how other parties should respond many mainstream parties have decided that the hard

00:16:19.600 right is simply too big to work around however while germany's firewall has not prevented the rise of

00:16:24.640 the afd evidence from elsewhere suggests that dropping firewalls legitimizes them oh no how dare you

00:16:30.480 legitimize citizens who are voting in sweden where mainstream parties have abandoned a firewall against

00:16:36.880 sweden's democrats the sd the hard right props up a minority government research suggests that voters

00:16:44.000 now view the hard right more favorably wait after they got into power and ran the government they're viewed

00:16:50.240 more favorably i thought you said they were being propped up by a minority it doesn't sound like that oh my gosh

00:16:57.520 oh my gosh anyway so anything you want to say before we go further no let's go ahead okay so i'm

00:17:05.360 going to put some graphs on screen here this one is in the united states but we're looking at the increase

00:17:10.320 in political polarization this is from pew research and so this is democrats political ideology based on

00:17:16.880 annual averages how would you describe your political views very conservative conservative moderate liberal

00:17:21.840 are very liberal and what you see here is that basically since the 2000s the democrats have been

00:17:28.560 getting more liberal um now what happens if you go to republicans with a similar graph republicans

00:17:35.520 political ideology based on annual averages not the same it's been staying about average only getting

00:17:41.440 slightly more conservative in fact it's been getting so much more liberal on democrats that it used to be

00:17:47.600 that the liberal perspective was even less common in 1995 for democrats than the conservative perspective

00:17:56.320 it was and it was dramatically less common than the moderate perspective only passing the moderate

00:18:01.840 perspective in around 2006 or 7. no have i the overton window has been shifting way too much on the left

00:18:12.320 yeah way too much i think this is an example though of how i guess modern culture has this flywheel effect

00:18:21.280 that when you leave a traditional culture and you let go of the guide rails and you're like you know what

00:18:25.520 i don't have culture i don't have a religion there are no more rules there it doesn't stop the the spine

00:18:32.000 rolled into crazy we haven't found the stopping point yet right it's just yeah yeah keeps going so i'm

00:18:39.840 gonna put a few more graphs on the screen this is from a different study also by pew so in 1994

00:18:44.800 you can see that the median democrat and the median republican were about in the center in 1999 like mitosis

00:18:51.360 you see them beginning well actually you see the republicans staying exactly where they used to be

00:18:55.920 and you see the democrats going further left in 2004 you see the republicans going to the center

00:19:02.080 the average republican position in 2004 was right in the center and the democrats had moved further left

00:19:09.840 then in 2015 the republicans are like and they started to shift to the right the democrats continue

00:19:15.360 to shift further to the left then in 2017 the democrats are all bunched up on the far far side

00:19:20.560 of the left and the republicans are sort of center right ish right now and if you want to see well you

00:19:26.640 can be like well has it really worked that way let's take a specific issue like same-sex marriage so i

00:19:30.880 think what we're actually seeing here is a shift in what the parties stand for to being an anti-authoritarian

00:19:35.920 anti-establishment party and being a pro-authoritarian anti-democratic sort of globalist bureaucrat party

00:19:42.880 so if you look at things like same-sex marriage support right now here's a shocking statistic did you

00:19:49.200 know that in actually until 2008 so until quite recently significantly less democrats supported same-sex

00:20:00.240 marriage than republicans support same-sex marriage today yeah that totally makes sense 0.98

00:20:05.360 in in in 2008 fewer democrats so this is like within most of your lifetimes supported same-sex

00:20:13.280 marriage than republicans support it today if you go back to 2012 if you go okay how many republicans

00:20:21.040 supported same-sex marriage well actually okay we'll do 2021 to get the republican numbers uh 2021

00:20:27.200 so this is a while ago right you still had more republican support of same-sex marriage in 2021

00:20:33.200 then you had democrat support of it in 2008 wow let's go over the number so that was a quick shift

00:20:41.760 there but it also shows that you're getting like convergence right well and that conservatives aren't

00:20:48.640 what they used to be also conservatives although they're sort of showing up in some numbers as more or

00:20:54.000 less staying unchanged not getting more conservative but just kind of staying where they are they've actually

00:20:59.360 become significantly more liberal yeah well not liberal i just say that we don't care about this

00:21:05.040 part of the culture war the conservatives have stolen the gay vote and a lot of people are like

00:21:09.600 oh what do you care about that because it's useful and they're productive and like why wouldn't they they

00:21:13.840 they fund a lot of stuff there some of the people on the doge team there's some of the people in

00:21:17.760 trump's government he's got multiple gay high-level officials they're peter teal who basically started the 0.87

00:21:23.040 new right they're scott pressler who could have if things had been tighter handed the election to trump

00:21:29.840 but if we go for and we're not losing anything for this we don't need to oppose like we're not sharia

00:21:35.280 law like we're christians here right like with right like we are christians like render under caesar

00:21:40.880 one of the distinctive things about christianity is it doesn't attempt to impose its value system

00:21:45.520 on the population through the government at least it attempts to say that you should do this if you

00:21:50.320 want to be like a good person or you want to follow the bible but like it's it's muslims who 0.99

00:21:54.960 attempt to impose this on the population that's i want to say it's what we're fighting against but

00:21:58.720 it might be something we have some concerns or trepidations about so let's look at the stats

00:22:02.000 here so same-sex marriage support in 2014 35 of republicans supported it so in 2014 you know you

00:22:08.000 already had over a third supporting it in 2021 51 of republicans supported it in 2021 already

00:22:14.240 if you were only trying to win among republicans you couldn't win if you were opposed to same-sex

00:22:18.560 marriage this is again why i'm like why would anybody push this when it hurts them so much

00:22:23.760 within their own base it's a completely self-mastermatory and indulgent position at this point

00:22:28.640 in 2023 55 of republicans supported it but if we look at how fast things have shifted among democrats

00:22:35.200 in 2001 it was 45 in 2008 it was 50 in 2021 it was 65 in 2019 it was 75 in 2024 it was 83

00:22:46.240 83 percent oh i actually find that number a little low for democrats only 83 percent of democrats approve

00:22:51.120 same-sex marriage that is not what i expected but i guess when i think back to the overwhelmingly

00:23:00.560 that i consumed as a kid it was still seen as kind of oh this is kind of scary so i guess i guess that

00:23:07.440 makes sense well anything about the democrat move to the left and this was talked about in the pew

00:23:12.960 research is the only you know if you're talking only democratic faction that's moved to the left is

00:23:19.120 white democrats black democrats stayed equally conservative as they've always been or actually

00:23:24.000 much more aligned with conservative voters on most issues and then the hispanic party is

00:23:30.080 well it's moving to the republican side as we saw you know more hispanic males voted for trump then voted for

00:23:36.720 the democrats in this last election cycle i think it was 45 percent overall voted for trump

00:23:41.120 i remember exit polling so thoughts on all of this

00:23:50.560 i'm a little bit afraid of the post correction fallout but i guess this is all very normal like i'm already

00:23:59.520 hearing some centrist left people talking about the preparation for the post right swing adjustment

00:24:12.240 like they're already sort of thinking ahead to that i don't think it's gonna happen you don't so how do

00:24:17.760 you think it's gonna play out because i mean i think that there is the left look the reason you had 1.00

00:24:22.000 a swing back to the right is the left acted like effing idiots they they went with all this crazy you're 0.99

00:24:27.520 seeing this a little bit with the right with some people on the right like going anti-pornography 1.00

00:24:31.840 anti-gooner anti the gooner votes important to the right the masturbation network keeping america 0.98

00:24:39.040 baiting for 300 years and now sweet bang tube oh that's go away baiting 0.54

00:24:48.240 the gooner votes important to the right important to the right and the mainstream like right influencers 0.98

00:24:53.440 know this who aren't idiots like let's say matt walsh or something who's like i hate anime like 0.94

00:24:58.480 i hate like grow up i hate video games it's like that's the right you know that right like whoever 0.99

00:25:04.640 is what what is wrong with you are you like do you have the strategy brain of a child for people who

00:25:09.840 don't know why the right predominantly watches things like anime over traditional shows and why many

00:25:15.120 anime people aren't in the right is because if you want non-woke media or media that wokeness hasn't

00:25:21.280 completely infiltrated and turned into bland slop you're gonna be looking at anime and for a long

00:25:27.040 time it was also you were looking at video games until that industry completely went woke and as

00:25:31.360 you can see how far right the gamers are like literally no one is buying these games anymore

00:25:38.240 life is strange recently did like a woke remake uh not that the first one wasn't that woke and it got

00:25:43.680 i i can't remember but like 5 000 concurrent players or something like really really low as to how the

00:25:49.040 gooners went to the right it was because well they were mostly males and the left just loves

00:25:54.640 ruining the lives of males whenever they can so they went against attractive women in video games 0.97

00:26:00.000 and attractive women online and attractive women in ads and anything potentially hot anywhere and i'd 0.94

00:26:07.120 point out here that it's not that i think that matt walsh is actually an idiot with this stuff i just 0.94

00:26:10.640 think that fundamentally he has no loyalty to the right or rightist causes and would throw them under the 0.93

00:26:15.840 bus if he could use that throwing under the bus to elevate his own status and play within these

00:26:21.680 status hierarchies because fundamentally that's what somebody's doing when they go anti-gooner when they

00:26:25.920 go anti-video games when they go anti-anime you know uh they're they're saying i know that this

00:26:31.440 couldn't even win an election if i was only peddling to the right but it does help me appear to be higher

00:26:38.080 status or quote-unquote more correctly right within certain right-wing circles and i can use that to elevate

00:26:44.320 myself even if it hurts the party and the same way the left did this with a lot of like crazy trans 1.00

00:26:49.440 issues and stuff like that and we should see people like this the way the left should have

00:26:53.760 always been seeing the people who came up to you know children's reading rooms and devil masks it's

00:26:59.680 like okay you know you guys you can personally argue whether this stuff is right for you but like you

00:27:06.880 have to know this is losing us election cycles at a time when like the species is on the line but the

00:27:13.200 mainstream i think id of the right which i've seen has not actually latched on or defended these insane

00:27:20.000 ideas somebody on the right will go up and be like i think pornography should be banned and everyone else

00:27:25.440 is like again we're not muslims like we're christians okay like we give them like a what's wrong with you 0.82

00:27:32.400 vibe and the left whenever they would do something crazy whenever they had their you know leah thomas or

00:27:38.240 whatever they'd all jump to defend her which is not what we're seeing in the right when people on

00:27:43.040 the right go crazy and take these positions everyone else is like get out of the room please

00:27:48.080 the same was like the oh you know like we should ban gay marriage again it's like we're we're actually 0.96

00:27:52.720 winning here can we not take a position that wouldn't even win among the republican base like what

00:27:57.360 are you living in some alternate fantasy world you would only push that for to win within a status 0.99

00:28:03.360 hierarchy at the cost of the party which means that you are an enemy of the party like you disgusting 0.96

00:28:09.680 child like like if you're not helping the party and again this is different if you're in like a 0.90

00:28:14.000 european or eastern european country where the politics are different i'm talking about like if

00:28:17.200 you're in the us or like you're in germany in your and you're taking these sorts of positions which

00:28:21.600 are just hurting the party's ability to win and and and get dominant so that we can fix the more

00:28:26.640 existential issues that actually do affect our kid or maybe survival as a cultural group you know in

00:28:33.520 europe you know you're dealing with crunch time now certain things don't matter at crunch time that

00:28:38.800 progressives want to get married sometimes and even some right-leaning it doesn't matter to to surviving

00:28:45.120 crunch time when you are being displaced at like a record number so i i note there which is why i don't

00:28:52.880 think we're gonna have the the swing back the other is is i look at what people like trump are doing

00:28:58.000 and it's all just like it's not culture war stuff it's not stuff trump like really understands the

00:29:04.240 90 10 issues yeah actually i was listening to more commentary today that did point out that unlike

00:29:10.640 other conservative influencers trump has been very good it's staying away from for lack of a better way of

00:29:17.440 putting it the ick stuff like all the weird you know conspiracy theories or anti-semitic stuff like

00:29:26.400 he he just tends to not engage with those things well he's not anti-semitic his daughter is jewish i know

00:29:34.240 but i mean he i think there are lots of people who have what i think it's more than that he actively

00:29:40.800 understands the concept of a 90 10 issue so there was this great instance where he was giving a speech and i

00:29:46.800 really love this speech anything he's in right now a beef with the governess of maine who is cutting

00:29:53.440 off federal spending to them because they won't end trans participation in intramural sports for kids

00:29:58.880 and he's like i love that they're doing he goes don't don't broadcast this out of the room obviously

00:30:04.560 he's on like live television he goes keep this a secret between us but i really hope she keeps this

00:30:10.400 position to the next election cycle it's going to do very well for us no one supports this you guys

00:30:16.400 this is what they call a 90 10 issue he goes and i don't know who those 10 are it's the same with

00:30:21.920 doge you know doge is at the end of the day like ending government blow very much a 90 10 issue

00:30:27.280 the only area where they really crossed 90 10 issues is stuff like the recent zelinski spat

00:30:32.160 but this is just one of those things where i think it really highlights for the people who were

00:30:35.360 skeptical of stuff like usaid and sending money abroad and jd vance did a good job of highlighting of

00:30:40.480 you can spend trillions of dollars on somebody and they will still not care at all the next year

00:30:47.200 if it looks like the money might be shut off there is no long-term built support by spending this sort

00:30:54.640 of money yeah the money that we spent got us nothing not no credibility with them nothing no credibility

00:31:01.200 delinsky the head didn't even care when the parties changed like why would we continue doing that you 0.96

00:31:07.200 know unless it's just to wear down russia which we've already done and then europe is like well

00:31:11.920 what if this leads to another war and a lot of it's like well okay you guys will handle it it's in

00:31:20.000 russia they've got nothing like what are you talking about like they've been fighting ukraine which is

00:31:26.160 the country like a third their size with no weapons to start this with ammunition from like the cold

00:31:33.520 war right that they're still depleting if they go to war with europe yeah i'm not really worried

00:31:40.240 they're like eventually they'll come for the us that's what he told uh the the and and and trump

00:31:45.520 was like don't tell us what we should be afraid of he's like you should be afraid and but trump's

00:31:49.520 right how are they going to come for the are they going to eat all of europe like all of europe's going 0.95

00:31:54.160 to be russian this isn't like nazi germany or something like an industrial warhouse or something

00:32:00.320 isn't the country that is struggling against a a developing country with a third their population

00:32:09.440 yeah i don't know like they have nukes like what if they use nukes well i don't think if they decide

00:32:16.480 to attack europe they're going to start using nukes if they decide to attack europe it's because they 0.99

00:32:20.720 think that they can gain significant land in europe which i don't think even they are stupid enough to 0.89

00:32:25.920 believe and then the use nukes thing i don't think the nukes work and i'm being perfectly honest here 0.67

00:32:32.640 wow really knows i wouldn't want to chance it just you know i wouldn't want to chance it but i think

00:32:37.840 that everyone knows that there is enough of a like come on guys and if they do chance it and they don't

00:32:44.320 work russia is being divided and putin is going to live the rest of his life in a cellar you know like 0.85

00:32:50.160 like there's no reason for them to chance that particularly sorry for people who wonder why i do

00:32:55.840 not think the nukes work um if you look at things like the troops transport and stuff like that that

00:33:02.640 they were going into ukraine with that they hadn't even been rotating the tires that they had all

00:33:06.400 popped that it turned out that like two-thirds of the planes were like not working or like had been

00:33:12.880 replaced with like dummy planes are completely gutted or it turned out that like the oil had been

00:33:18.480 siphoned from all of the the troop transport so they got like halfway to kiev and ran out of fuel

00:33:24.560 like okay it happened in that place and hadn't been caught you don't think it happened with the

00:33:30.880 with the missiles and they're like no no no no no no no no it's totally different like russia do you

00:33:35.920 feel like there's more ongoing maintenance that needs to take place yeah i'm like you you think they

00:33:40.960 weren't checking this other stuff and it was easier to check the other stuff than the missiles

00:33:45.200 like the missiles you need a higher level of expertise to make sure you're not being grifted on

00:33:51.680 sadly this is above my pay grade but i i guess yeah i mean considering the track record with a variety of

00:33:58.000 other defense mechanisms and resources but there's a secondary thing that a lot of people aren't

00:34:02.800 considering with the missiles okay so if you're a patriot or whatever or you're like a normal person

00:34:07.840 right like you might view it as unethical to grift or steal stuff from like let's say oil from a troop

00:34:16.320 transport or yeah parts from an airplane but your average person with a sense of ethics would probably

00:34:24.240 think it a moral imperative to take parts from a nuclear missile because nobody like not let it happen

00:34:33.440 if someone tries to make it happen yeah yeah i can see people justifying that to themselves in a way

00:34:38.320 that i can't see with other things so then there's this whole additional reason why the missiles would

00:34:42.160 have decayed at a faster rate than all of the other stuff keep in mind that most of the stuff was made

00:34:46.960 before any of us were born just like keep that in gosh okay well when you put it that way it doesn't

00:34:55.600 and anyone from then until now could have done this

00:35:02.640 or inserted something into it that made it not work that other people might not notice i'm just

00:35:07.280 saying that there's like a lot of reasons to not really be afraid and i guess the the biggest reason

00:35:11.680 is the kleptocracy problem that seems to be taking place that there's just enough motivation to take

00:35:18.080 little parts of things that uh might let's put it this way it uh putin doesn't have an elon that he

00:35:24.480 can put into like coked up goblin mode to go and check everything if if they had a doge they could

00:35:30.880 go and find out if everything works they could go and actually root out their corruption in the way

00:35:34.880 that the united states is doing maybe maybe elon should go to putin next and handle russia i i

00:35:40.400 actually would actually be kind of okay with like an efficient russia and ending the kleptocracy 1.00

00:35:45.520 there because i think it would uh do good for the world overall you just made it slightly not

00:35:51.120 slightly but significantly like a modern economy instead of a kleptocratic economy yeah i mean

00:35:57.360 there's there's a lot of places that it'd just be so nice if you could give them a really quick

00:36:04.640 elon musk makeover you know just trim a bunch of things and this is something that we see all the

00:36:09.840 time with developing country too even with infrastructure where because they didn't have

00:36:14.480 various departments or functions for you know until very recently they got developed much more

00:36:22.080 efficiently and with better technology from day one and it would just be i feel like there should be

00:36:29.440 some kind of sunset date or expiry date on organizational departments that just sort of forces you to remake it

00:36:38.800 every decade i don't know every however many years or once you reach a certain number of staff

00:36:45.040 where you were just you have to redo it it doesn't matter if it was working fine you have to rebuild

00:36:50.160 it and you're going to rebuild it better and maybe some people will be rehired maybe they won't but it has

00:36:55.840 to be done oh well definitely i do think yeah we're moving in the right direction i feel very hopeful

00:37:02.160 and oh yeah pun intended i guess both right and correct direction it's nice to see this correction

00:37:09.680 taking place i have my doubts about the eu just given but between the fact that the european

00:37:16.000 union exists this thing about the eu the only way the eu survives and i mean survives at like a

00:37:21.280 mathematical level when we're talking about like fertility rates of different populations

00:37:25.200 immigration population and everything like that is if they kick out large amounts of immigrants at

00:37:32.000 this point and that's gonna happen though i mean they feel like they need them because of

00:37:36.720 no i think it might happen but it's going to look horrifying when it starts happening

00:37:41.760 it's going to look like a form of far right that everyone was afraid of but it's the only

00:37:46.720 realistic solution the left is basically forcing the horrors that are to come by flooding the country

00:37:54.960 with people because they're gonna eventually have to be removed i don't think there's a

00:38:02.000 plan or even necessarily a capability for that that is and in some cases didn't you point out like

00:38:06.640 in germany the afd has been actively talking about this yeah but in germany some huge proportion

00:38:11.600 of the population is first or second generation integrated after 1950 yeah so i mean what about all

00:38:19.120 their kids what about their grandkids i mean at this point it has been happening for so long the afd

00:38:24.400 has talked about removing even german citizens that have not integrated into the country's culture

00:38:29.840 oh wow that is what has to happen it's the only real if if you have not integrated if you want to

00:38:36.080 save german culture especially with this existing birth rate the only way to do that is to remove 1.00

00:38:41.680 higher fertility populations that do not share that culture especially if they don't share it

00:38:45.200 intergenerationally and durably intergenerational like i i wouldn't say something like this in the us

00:38:51.120 but in germany i don't know how else you survive yikes and you're forgetting too though that countries

00:39:00.320 in germany can't even really do things in isolation because they're part of the eu now i mean germany has

00:39:06.640 disproportionate power and weight within the eu but i just feel like the bureaucratic morass that they've

00:39:13.200 thrown upon themselves by operating through the eu there will not be the bandwidth to take the kind of

00:39:20.720 unilateral action that is necessary to to save themselves from the dynamics that have been

00:39:27.840 put in place a long time ago i just i don't really see it working out as much as that saddens me like i

00:39:36.320 i mean i'm there are ways and i i know they're like pockets of europe that are moving in really good

00:39:40.880 directions i i just think maybe it'll become more balconized tinier little pockets that will maybe

00:39:50.000 ultimately reclaim the non-functional pockets that sort of go to seed over time maybe but i don't

00:39:57.680 know fingers crossed i'm just saying that the left is basically forcing an eventual of some of these

00:40:04.320 countries and that is absolutely horrifying that they're not thinking through it because they're

00:40:09.920 putting a population in a position where either they do that or are eventually erased just by the math 0.98

00:40:16.480 why would you be stupid enough to force that in the long run if you like unless you were just playing 0.99

00:40:21.600 some sort of like short-term like psychotic game 1.00

00:40:26.880 yeah well obviously they're not thinking along those lines it's just not

00:40:32.400 well these populations have their own culture they have their own ways like yeah some of them

00:40:38.320 integrate and that's fine but it's not the other one's fault that they're not integrating it's not

00:40:43.840 their fault that they maintain their culture in the face of alternate cultures like that's a good 1.00

00:40:48.480 thing to have a durable culture but i can understand why a native population would say

00:40:54.080 okay you came here as refugees now get out i don't care how many generations you've been here 1.00

00:41:01.680 you we would like to keep some aspect of our culture like why is it their fault that they

00:41:08.640 say i want to keep my culture like why is that a bad thing because they're european they're german

00:41:13.280 whatever anyway it's a mess we all know where we are we're going all right you know what i'm saying

00:41:22.560 is is is it's going in one of two directions either the eventual extinction of at least continental europe

00:41:29.280 as a cultural what i just mean is groups that have different cultural values are going to

00:41:33.360 eventually become the dominant populations in these countries yeah like that's not a horrifying thing

00:41:40.000 to me because i'm not from one of those cultural groups and i don't care about them i don't particularly

00:41:43.920 like german culture i'm fine with that but like that is one possibility or the other possibility is that

00:41:51.280 the the groups in power now like the groups out of power now gain power and they remove the populations

00:41:58.800 that are different from them or the final possibility is they ghettoize the populations

00:42:04.800 that are different from them which isn't particularly better than the removing them situation i'm just

00:42:09.760 saying they're like aren't a lot the more people you ship in the worse the potential options get

00:42:16.160 for the existing population especially if they are non-integrating groups

00:42:22.560 i imagine that there are potential innovative solutions that could resolve the dynamic i mean

00:42:30.960 to your point or you could say your your broader family's historical political point you cannot have

00:42:38.160 both open borders and generous social services it could just be that at one point cut it all the social

00:42:44.640 services are cut off and that could solve the problem i think that that would probably be the less

00:42:48.960 bloody way and i should point out here that if anybody like watches this and like some lefty tries

00:42:53.040 to say he's saying this should happen that is 100 not what i am saying i am saying these are the various

00:43:00.880 possibilities given the chess board that the left has set up i don't think that these possibilities

00:43:07.520 are good i think that they are horrifying and totalitarian and they worry me as much as they should worry

00:43:14.960 you it's just sort of like you know you put a ball at the top of a hill and i'm like oh my god that

00:43:21.520 ball is going to roll down the hill the moment you let go of it and you're like haha you think this ball

00:43:25.520 should roll down the hill and crush the city below like no i didn't say i think that's a good thing i'm

00:43:31.280 worried about the city below stop putting the giant like boulder at the top of the hill yeah because

00:43:36.320 if the supports break the city below is crushed

00:43:39.040 yeah all right love you to death simone i love you too malcolm you making me hurry tonight

00:43:47.760 it's curry night i'm gonna go down right now oh i got you done early enough thank you

00:43:52.080 so what do you want to say to indy about growing up um that i want that um i love her that um

00:44:02.240 uh indy is um like um our baby that is right there i love her and i'm gonna um and if mommy needs help

00:44:12.720 i'm gonna like um i'm gonna like answer and and um if he needs help take a cut off indy i'll just help 0.98

00:44:21.440 him thank you buddy i appreciate that you're the best indy loves you and i write a note to mrs

00:44:30.320 donnelly that i love her oh yeah there it is oh it's upside down oh never mind that good job friend

Based Camp - March 05, 2025

Europe's Far-Right Now the Most Popular Party

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