Based Camp - May 01, 2026


Everyone Is Wrong About Pragmata (The Pronatalist Game)

Topics
pragmata corn
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Malcolm Collins Simone Collins
Mentioned
Hassan Harley Davidson Functionally Tommy Korn
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In this episode, we discuss the controversy surrounding the new PC game Pragmata and its depiction of a young girl as a sexualized version of a 6-year-old girl, and why that's not a good thing.

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00:00:00.000 Korn, what it does is all humans, because of evolutionary reasons, have a collection of pathways that cause pleasure when you do things tied to the birthing and rearing of the next generation.
00:00:14.640 Oh, I see.
00:00:15.140 If you're here saying Pragmata is not Korn, right?
00:00:19.320 Functionally, how is it different?
00:00:20.520 If I'm in my room and I'm playing Pragmata, which I'm playing the game, I am fathering a fake child while I have real children downstairs. 0.98
00:00:32.780 How is that not as ghoulish as masturbating to a fake woman when I have a real wife in the other room? 0.99
00:00:42.720 That's a really good point. 0.99
00:00:44.540 And if you think of being stogy and hair splitting here, one, remember, I can't make the same take on this that every other conservative commentator has had.
00:00:50.280 I've got to have something new and fresh, so keep that in mind.
00:00:53.080 But two, right now everyone's so excited because this is the first time they have seen a game
00:00:58.680 that is meant to masturbate the instinct to be a parent and father a child,
00:01:04.020 and so they are excited about it because some of them didn't realize they had this emotion. 0.52
00:01:07.980 And in getting people to realize that, yes, playing with children is actually fun
00:01:11.720 and something they want to do and having children of their own is something they want to do
00:01:14.860 is a fundamentally good thing that this game was released.
00:01:18.140 but the warning against the masturbation of this pathway and how toxic it can be
00:01:23.820 is going to be made evidence in the years to come as people can whiz ai simulate children
00:01:31.780 would you like to know more hello simone i'm excited to be talking with you again after a
00:01:36.220 few days break of course our audience wouldn't know that but we were in dc talking with political
00:01:41.260 types and now we are back and there is an episode that everyone's been asking us to do
00:01:47.180 and we are not going to have the take that you imagine on this one which is about the controversy
00:01:53.600 which has come downstream of a game named pragmata and the controversy basically goes bunch of leftists
00:02:01.780 saw this game and they were either mad at it because they said it promoted pronatalism which
00:02:06.740 it very explicitly does the first scene in the game before you meet the little girl android who
00:02:11.580 you're supposed to form a bond with one of the characters is talking about fatherhood and the
00:02:15.500 other guy's like oh it must be really hard and he's like no it's like the best thing ever so it's
00:02:18.940 very it's not like a oh we accidentally made a game that made people want to become dads it's
00:02:25.100 the core theme of the game okay then some of them are mad because they say that the little girl is
00:02:33.420 sexualized which i mean she's not although i will say her face design is a little weird to me like
00:02:40.180 it does not look like the face of someone of that age to the people who point that out like
00:02:44.180 make a point around that and if you're upset that i don't have the standard conservative take on
00:02:48.760 this game i want to have as true or honest of a take i have to the extent that it is also something
00:02:56.580 new that you haven't heard before and is intellectually stimulating because if it's just
00:03:01.060 let's dunk on progressives for being icked by a game that promotes traditional value systems
00:03:08.720 that's boring you've heard that already right so let's let's try to dig a bit deeper than this
00:03:13.980 But here, what I've done, just for those of you who have not seen, because her character in the game is supposed to be the equivalent of a six-year-old girl, here is her face next to a bunch of six-year-old girl faces.
00:03:24.380 And I hope you can see that these two things, they're not the same.
00:03:28.740 There's something off about her design.
00:03:31.240 And that's okay.
00:03:32.460 But if you have a six-year-old girl, it would be really striking to you.
00:03:37.640 And so it's weird that conservative commentators keep saying that there isn't something off about her design.
00:03:43.040 To me, it feels dishonest, and I don't like that in our space.
00:03:45.920 By the way, if you're confused as to what looks off about the head,
00:03:48.620 the number one thing is its relative size to the body. 0.97
00:03:52.580 Six-year-old girls have heads that are much larger when contrasted with their body 0.98
00:03:56.960 than this individual's head.
00:03:58.740 The second is its thinness and high cheekbones, which are much more adult features. 0.57
00:04:05.340 Again, not the game's fault they were trying to size down an adult actress,
00:04:09.440 but it is very noticeable if you have a six-year-old daughter by the way if you think
00:04:13.740 i'm exaggerating here i sometimes use ai to age up our children so i can see what they'll look
00:04:17.740 like when they're in their 20s or 30s or whatever and i did this to my daughter once recently but
00:04:22.120 the ai made a mistake and only aged up her face and i have never seen a picture that looks more
00:04:27.380 like the pragmata girl and it's very creepy in this context because it's a bit more exact but
00:04:33.720 you will see she looks more like this than she does a normal human girl of that age that said
00:04:39.080 she clearly was in the story and was in the context of the fan base is not particularly
00:04:44.720 sexualized except on reddit they made a reddit thread and they had to shut it down because it
00:04:49.640 just was nothing but sexualized but that's you know reddit leftists blah blah blah they do them
00:04:55.700 right well that's the internet the rule 42 this is i don't understand how that's weird and then
00:05:00.640 the right comes in and they laugh laugh laugh at the leftist and they go ha ha ha so funny you see
00:05:07.100 a little girl and you immediately assume that you know you should see her as sexual and that's a
00:05:13.800 self-report and then the right also says like ha ha ha you know how that's basically the core thing
00:05:20.560 the right's saying in in so many words and i think so much of the wider conversation is being missed
00:05:26.340 because of this sort of myopic surface layer investigation of this so the first thing that
00:05:33.060 we're going to be exploring in this is the question that has a pretty clear answer is
00:05:37.920 pragmata corn and the answer is yes just not of the type you are used to consuming so what makes
00:05:46.500 something for it right yeah well people literally i don't know if it still exists but there was a
00:05:51.320 subreddit for food corn and no no no no no that's not what i'm talking about i'm not talking about
00:05:58.180 analogous to i'm saying it is literally corn oh my gosh okay corn what it does is all humans
00:06:09.300 because of evolutionary reasons have a collection of pathways that cause pleasure when you do things
00:06:17.280 tied to the birthing and rearing of the next generation. Oh, I see. There are many types of
00:06:24.800 corn which hit these pathways in different ways. So like owning a cat or a dog that you over
00:06:32.040 care for. Well, I've always said that that's a type of corn, but I want to point out that it is
00:06:38.100 not of a type different than other corn. There are, so for example, somebody could say, well,
00:06:43.340 it's not corn because you don't masturbate to it and i'm like but we say that when women read you 0.99
00:06:49.460 know sexy monster man books they very rarely masturbate to those and yet i i want to f a 0.98
00:06:56.080 monster is still very clearly corn there are people say well people aren't having sex in it 0.99
00:07:01.620 so it's not corn and it's like well there's many categories of fetishes where people don't have sex
00:07:07.760 be they you know foot fetishes for example or something right like that people aren't having
00:07:12.800 sex in that and and yet that would very unambiguously or they're like oh well that's
00:07:17.080 not the act okay what about vor fetishes people would say that's very clearly corn but very
00:07:23.260 clearly no sex is had in that so all right so you can't loop off corn by saying and and here
00:07:31.740 somebody can say oh well no it's about the the the whatever the positive emotions you feel
00:07:38.620 from the images or story or act has to be tied to things that would have been actual sexual
00:07:46.860 reproduction for it to be in the category of corn for me and it's like okay what did feet have to do
00:07:52.440 with sexual reproduction right like there's a huge variety of things and they're like well okay but
00:07:58.980 that still causes traditional arousal. And so then here I'd say, okay, what about things that
00:08:03.940 don't cause traditional arousal? Because here, note, I'm not saying that pragmata is arousing
00:08:09.240 to the core audience and what it's trying to do, but it is trying to hijack a pathway tied to
00:08:15.700 reproduction, right? So here you would have something like rope binding and stuff like this.
00:08:21.200 I point out that a lot of people who are into rope binding, they often don't actually feel
00:08:26.680 arousal from it. They just feel pleasure or comfort from it, the feeling of being restrained.
00:08:31.860 And that doesn't, to us, make that not a type of corn. And so then the second question is,
00:08:39.120 whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. And note here, this is always the understanding that the core
00:08:45.100 pleasure pathway that this is eliciting in guys is, I'll call it dad corn, right? Like it's
00:08:51.120 the feeling of being a dad being protective of a kid making a kid feel good the things that you
00:08:58.460 know your ancestors who felt them during certain parts of their lives ended up having more surviving
00:09:02.440 offspring so the the second question is and I think this is the more important question is
00:09:07.680 well then is it immoral and what what is your take on this Simone
00:09:12.400 I don't think it's immoral I think people should understand what it is and that it's not a
00:09:18.120 replacement for it because i think sometimes you you may be driven to some form of like let's say
00:09:24.680 you really really really love you know having your pet dog and you take them on walks everywhere and
00:09:29.780 well you know maybe maybe this means you kind of want a kid you know and you you want to be that
00:09:34.560 person who cares for someone else and really makes your life about them yeah so i i think the pet dog
00:09:41.460 is a perfect example here and this is very in line with the way i feel about erotic material
00:09:47.840 more broadly corn more broadly and everything like that um is that there are positive and
00:09:53.480 healthy ways to relate to it and there are negative and toxic ways to relate to it right
00:09:58.200 like trying to lean into it more to fill a void that it will never be able to fill because it's
00:10:03.200 it's not doing the real thing is dangerous right right so pragmata i would say is largely positive
00:10:10.360 it is something that gets people thinking about this it gets people wanting to do this type of
00:10:15.540 thing right and it has positive externalities because of that right yeah it elicits a positive
00:10:22.140 rule between a man and his kid here's here's why though and this is what i think is a key
00:10:28.440 distinction because you do see this in like the commentary people streaming this who are like oh
00:10:32.500 my gosh i think i want to be a parent this is not a parenting sim game this is not a game that people
00:10:38.340 who want to like masturbate that part of their desire i have no idea what you're saying simone 0.78
00:10:44.960 well you think people are buying pragmata because they want to yes explore parenthood yes really 0.65
00:10:51.260 yes yes i thought it was just a really well made game if you if you didn't want to do that simone
00:10:58.020 that would literally be as completely bizarre as buying a game that the cover had like a sexy
00:11:07.220 fox girl on it with big breasts and then you start playing it and you're like i didn't want 0.70
00:11:13.300 a game was a sexy fox girl with big breasts in it like that's the entire point of the game if you 0.99
00:11:20.460 if you open up the sexy fox girl with big breasts game and it's a burly man you're gonna be like 0.64
00:11:26.360 this isn't what i wanted if you open up the little i thought it was something else i thought
00:11:30.640 people wouldn't call it like a psyop for pronatalism if it's stated purpose it's no it's on the box
00:11:37.800 you are getting this for a father experience that is well then i don't understand why is there so
00:11:46.900 much nobody who bought this not why is there so much outrage about it then because no one would
00:11:51.040 care if that's what it is there's outrage about it because the left sees people and men wanting
00:11:58.900 to be fathers in a wholesome framing and getting angry about it and then they want to find a way
00:12:06.420 to frame this negatively because they do not like that people are moving towards a traditional life
00:12:13.280 pathway or desire a traditional life pathway because it frames something wholesome that people
00:12:20.500 want in their lives a wholesome experience they want and the leftist so completely brain
00:12:28.160 its audience into believing that nobody actually wants that that it begins to sort of shatter the
00:12:35.060 reality and cause this offense emotion because it's challenging their world perspective and so
00:12:40.720 they must attack it but the wider point i was making here is i think you can contrast something
00:12:46.800 like pragmata and using that to stimulate this instinct versus something like using a pet to
00:12:52.400 stimulate this using a pet to stimulate this instinct is done instead of having a child
00:12:59.440 right that is a toxic way to relate to this in the same way that if corn is a part of your life
00:13:09.620 and you're and it's just like a once a week thing or something like that right that's
00:13:15.840 irrelevant right like that's not gonna screw up your life that's not gonna lead you to degeneracy
00:13:20.900 that's not gonna if and people can be like well it you know i personally can't resist that leading
00:13:27.260 me to degeneracy and it's like fine and there's people who play pragmata and get obsessed with
00:13:32.520 this particular fake ai android girl right like clearly this is dangerous for them i'm just saying
00:13:39.000 that for a lot of people it doesn't okay in the same way we're like if you're if you're skipping
00:13:44.980 out on events where you might meet a future wife because you want to stay home and look at corn
00:13:51.140 yeah and gooding right like that's clearly a problem in the same way or you're doing it
00:13:55.800 multiple times a day or something like that right okay that's the point where it is clearly
00:14:01.800 interfering with you pursuing the things that you want to pursue like that you need to pursue from
00:14:08.260 like a moral context and it's important to understand that engaging with something like
00:14:14.820 pragmata in this context can make it even more likely that you are going to find a partner
00:14:22.120 this is very similar to the studies that were done on men in college that consumed corn versus
00:14:28.840 the men who didn't and the men who did were much more likely to have girlfriends and much more
00:14:34.540 likely to be able to secure girlfriends the idea that well i mean there's there's this sort of
00:14:39.540 stereotype which is just wrong which we'll get to is the hassan because hassan has this gamer
00:14:44.740 stereotype which is entirely wrong but that's sort of part two of this basically he says gamers are
00:14:49.740 guys who don't have kids and will never have kids and we're going to point out by the statistics
00:14:53.560 that's just wrong gamer guys are much more likely to have children than non-gamer guys of which
00:14:59.480 Hassan is and doesn't have kids so you know his line dies with him but more on that soon
00:15:05.380 because I wanted to talk more about the wider concept of art and video games and what these
00:15:13.240 things do right humanity is a collection and we have a collection of things we find beautiful
00:15:22.100 things we find arousing and things we find pleasing
00:15:26.040 and this collection of things is downstream generally of evolutionary pressures and people
00:15:35.560 can say oh well beauty isn't downstream of evolutionary pressures and i'm like well okay
00:15:41.760 first of all yeah usually it is if you're talking about like a a woman who you think is beautiful
00:15:47.780 or a man you think is beautiful that is evolutionary sexual pressures that is the
00:15:53.440 mona lisa that is most famous portraits that is your ability to judge a human being as beautiful
00:16:01.200 or not beautiful is downstream of the same evolutionary pressures that led to your most
00:16:06.380 basal arousal pathways but outside of that well people are like well what about pictures that
00:16:11.480 art of things like humans and i'm like okay well what sort of pictures do people like to draw
00:16:15.760 they like to draw pictures of streams they like to draw pictures of views of of landscape they
00:16:23.260 like to draw pictures of oceans they like to draw pictures of like like scenes of nature where you
00:16:29.680 can see far in the distance and i'm like okay so what have you just described a bunch of you you
00:16:36.760 You just said the things that people like to look at over other things that people may
00:16:42.420 want to look at are locations where they have a long view into the distance, e.g., a defendable
00:16:50.800 location, locations with fresh water, e.g., locations where it's good to live, and locations
00:16:58.100 with food supplies, e.g., animals or fish.
00:17:02.080 you have described what in our evolutionary context was what it felt like to be in an area
00:17:09.520 that was defendable and that had resources you needed to survive versus locations that didn't
00:17:16.820 everything that we perceive in reality tied to pleasure is downstream of these evolutionary
00:17:24.540 pressures and you can try to gate little tunnels of this based on our current understanding in
00:17:32.760 society of well this is this kind of content because it is within x type of you know degeneracy
00:17:43.940 but as i was trying to point out earlier in this that actually causes a lot of problems
00:17:47.800 in terms of like categorizing well what is actually corn the point we're trying to get
00:17:52.420 into here is specifically why is in some context masturbation a bad thing to do it's a bad thing to
00:18:00.360 do because you are hijacking a reproductive impulse for pointless personal gratification
00:18:07.600 rather than directing that impulse to finding or satisfying your spouse when that impulse guides
00:18:15.540 some behavior other than finding and satisfying your spouse it is deleterious to you and this is
00:18:22.620 important because if you get too deontological about this you can just categorize all of x thing
00:18:27.000 is bad all of y thing is good and then completely ignore the entire point about prohibitions about
00:18:33.260 masturbation because it is you're taking the reproductive impulse hijacking it for something
00:18:38.180 other than its purpose so what about playing with kids playing with your kids feels good
00:18:42.640 because it is helping you raise the next generation,
00:18:47.020 keep humanity going.
00:18:48.720 And instead of relying on these desires to have a kid
00:18:52.560 and raise the kid and play with the kid,
00:18:54.840 you short-circuit them
00:18:57.440 and you use a fictional character to do that.
00:19:00.800 Functionally, you're doing an equivalent thing.
00:19:03.480 And this isn't to say that there couldn't be
00:19:05.680 some positive externalities.
00:19:07.560 Like the game gets people to realize
00:19:09.700 that they have these impulses in the first place,
00:19:11.900 which is you know why people are excited about it because a lot of guys didn't realize that this
00:19:16.660 felt so good but it is the same thing and just as some guys can get one-shotted by masturbation
00:19:24.300 some guys are going to be one-shotted by fictional children that they can parent and dote on and this
00:19:30.760 is going to become an increasing problem as we enter the age of ai where people can have children
00:19:36.620 that feel very very real and so the warning that i lay out here with a game like pragmata may seem
00:19:43.700 so silly and trivial oh guys didn't realize they had this motivation blah blah blah blah blah and
00:19:48.240 it's good because it makes them realize that and and may seem silly and trivial because this is 0.98
00:19:52.320 your first time encountering something that's meant to masturbate this instinct but you wait
00:19:57.380 until people have ai children then you'll see why this warning is so prescient and if you're like
00:20:02.400 well it's not about the effect on the individual it's about the effect on society obviously the
00:20:06.600 statistics that i cite the most which is what causes me to have such strong beliefs about this
00:20:11.080 is when the czech republic legalized corn rates of child sa dropped by around 50 we have seen
00:20:18.960 similar results of between 25 and 50 drop in child sa whenever it gets legalized in a region
00:20:27.040 and we also saw sexual assault rates drop the united states at around the same rate as internet
00:20:32.760 penetration was hitting a region and also we know of prisoners those who engage in sa typically
00:20:40.040 start engaging with corn at a later age in their life and this is what gets me on the bands of
00:20:45.440 stuff like this like we have the evidence on this we know the consequence of these sorts of bands
00:20:50.020 and it's because of your own moral inability to control yourself you are sacrificing the lives
00:20:56.720 of children and if you say well okay i actually don't struggle with this well if you don't struggle
00:21:02.620 was this, then why the heck are you sacrificing the lives of children when you can throw this
00:21:07.180 meat to the beast of society and prevent them from using human children as their owny holes, 0.89
00:21:13.460 right? Like, why are you doing that? That's a monstrous thing to do. And I think a lot of the
00:21:18.700 time it's because people want to look more generically conservative than the person next
00:21:25.560 to them. But when the progressive wants to be a good person and says, oh, I am letting in these
00:21:29.780 immigrants and you point out these immigrants often great people here are the statistics and 0.98
00:21:35.060 they are monstrous and they are responsible for those grapes when they do this just as much as a 1.00
00:21:39.620 conservative who says i want to ban erotic material and you point out well in countries where this has
00:21:45.580 been done the level of child grapes rose by x amount they are responsible for that it's important
00:21:51.360 that we not fall for the same trap the progressive does and obviously this doesn't win us points to
00:21:56.520 point out in the conservative sphere, but I will not sacrifice the lives of children for the
00:22:03.600 perception that I am a morally poor person if I know what the consequential outcome of that sacrifice
00:22:09.460 is. So at a societal level as well, it's positive. The question is, is it positive for individuals?
00:22:18.140 And the answer here is often not, but it depends on how the individual is relating to it in the
00:22:25.700 same way that a game like this can be very negative for an individual but generally it's
00:22:30.960 going to be positive it just depends on the context and then this gets to the bigger problem
00:22:37.220 here where people will then say well malcolm i am you know x type of christian and christians
00:22:46.380 have always been really anti anything that has to do with sexuality and i would just say no
00:22:54.980 the person who told you that was your leftist school your leftist upbringing and leftist
00:22:59.820 caricatures of christians if you look at christians in a historic context depending on the christian 0.67
00:23:05.780 cultural group that you are studying they were a very sexual population great examples of this
00:23:11.800 would be the puritans who up until the mid 19th century their works heavily censored because they 0.61
00:23:18.160 were so sexual you see this in parts of the bible particularly the old testament where you will have
00:23:24.820 quite graphic sexual allegories and jokes you you may not get them as a reader today because you
00:23:32.520 won't know that a foot is supposed to be a member was in that context in jewish society but
00:23:36.600 they they were to the readers of that period they were porn jokes just to go over some of these we
00:23:43.360 have ruth 3 we have samuel 24 3 we have isaiah 720 we have judges 3 24 that that is what parts
00:23:51.980 of the bible are and you can say well then why like why any of it doesn't doesn't the bible say
00:23:59.260 that you shouldn't like lust after other women and it's like you absolutely shouldn't be lusting
00:24:02.860 after other women don't do that right but i think that you can divide lusting after other women
00:24:10.960 with one what a lot of modern corn actually is and two the way that we as a larger like
00:24:19.560 new right cultural phenomenon relate to these concepts so if you're like how were the puritans
00:24:24.740 like pro monogamy but also vulgar right like what i don't i don't get this it doesn't make sense to
00:24:31.020 me and here i'd be like have you seen the new leaflet song right the not the new one her first
00:24:36.140 one she had another one about college which is really good you should watch it but the
00:24:39.000 the first one is about have babies and in the song about having babies she says
00:24:44.240 We'll be right back.
00:25:14.240 and the this is the way that puritans talked about this stuff right like
00:25:23.200 the idea being everything that she has said there is what our society today would tell you is vulgar
00:25:31.040 but the reality of what she has said is what you do to make babies okay it's not actually bad 0.99
00:25:39.500 It's not anti-biblical to say you should have a wife and have sex with her and come inside of her and make babies. 0.92
00:25:49.320 The woke mind virus is trying to psyop us into becoming incredibly rigid in the way we relate to sexuality and arousal. 0.98
00:25:58.260 And rigid things become brittle.
00:26:01.900 we need to have a degree of flexibility to stay maximally structurally strong and protect our
00:26:10.580 children the reason they're trying to sign up us into this rigidity is because when they do
00:26:15.520 it makes it very easy to lure our children out of the tradition and we can see as we have adopted
00:26:23.140 more flexibility as a movement i mean if you had told me 10 years ago some of the leading
00:26:29.300 conservative influencers would be like anthro fox girls furries you know whether it be kirsha
00:26:34.100 smug alana slime girl leaflet i'd be like that how how isn't the right so strict and rigid around
00:26:41.780 this stuff but as we have loosened that and say no it's okay to be flexible in this stuff so long
00:26:46.340 as it's not in a way that's causing active harm to our members we can outmaneuver the left where
00:26:53.140 they have begun to worship ugliness and as long as they're going to insist on making all of their 0.73
00:26:58.500 females ugly we have a huge asymmetric advantage in the culture war whereas we allow for attractiveness 1.00
00:27:07.840 within our influencers even where we're creating super normal iterations of that eg v tubers 0.99
00:27:15.580 there there was a group who hated talking about this stuff see our quaker episode but what happened
00:27:21.420 to them they mostly died out some iterances of their group even began to think that sex was in
00:27:27.440 marriage was sinful like the shakers and they died out extra hard so the point that i'm making is i 0.98
00:27:33.520 think that we are we are bringing this back in a way that's protective of our communities and people 1.00
00:27:37.720 can say oh well what about like the colorado strategy or whatever i can't with the colorado
00:27:41.520 something and it's like if you ever allow degeneracy it always helps our opponents and not
00:27:46.200 us and here they're referring to colorado loosening the ban on marijuana and here i say to
00:27:53.620 them are you actually kidding me and note here when i'm talking about corn i'm not talking about
00:27:58.520 anything that's involving real humans that is i think pretty much always has negative externalities
00:28:04.680 for society there's there's ai stuff there's drawn stuff there's you know i'm not talking about real
00:28:10.280 humans because then that involves those real humans and ends up ruining their lives but the
00:28:13.720 colorado strategy is really stupid because the reason why colorado ended up flipping blue after 1.00
00:28:19.600 they legalized pot was because they legalized effing pot you idiots like obviously if you were 1.00
00:28:27.000 the first state to legalize pot that's going to bring a bunch of lefties from all over the country 1.00
00:28:31.340 to your state and they're going to vote in a lefty way that has nothing to do with the wider
00:28:36.160 conversation now why is it so important for the left to try to trick you into thinking that
00:28:42.040 historic christian groups were incredibly humorously enough they made up the term
00:28:48.220 puritanical about sex which is the antithesis of the way the puritans viewed sex and the by the 0.94
00:28:54.120 way most of the the christian groups other than the quakers didn't really care like the backwards 0.95
00:28:57.740 people would talk about sex very frequently as well they they had no trouble talking about it 0.98
00:29:02.700 it didn't have big social taboos around it in the way it does in modern society why did they have to
00:29:07.380 convince us of that it's because it's the number one way that they get our kids it's important to
00:29:12.360 remember that if you're a protestant for every one person that converts to a protestant two people
00:29:16.080 leave the church. If you're a Catholic, for every one person that converts into the church,
00:29:19.380 eight people leave the church, right? Like the church is even now, now it looks like it may 0.69
00:29:24.840 have tapered off in some of the latest polling, but it's pretty much bleeding members, or at least
00:29:29.260 it has been for a very long time. And we need to think about how and why. And the easiest strategy
00:29:34.860 to get your kids has been, oh, you little Tommy, you feel arousal. That must mean that you are
00:29:42.480 sinful but look at us like we feel arousal and it's accepted in our community or you feel this
00:29:48.920 type of arousal that your parents say makes you evil right and so you might as well just join us
00:29:54.480 and this strategy was like super successful like it one-shotted so many christian kids because it's 0.72
00:30:01.300 it's it's when you're going through a time and you're first feeling these emotions and you don't
00:30:05.220 have anyone else you can go to or you don't feel like you have anyone else you can go to because
00:30:09.040 this stuff has been so stigmatized by the way that your family talks about it it it's a very
00:30:14.180 easy strat for the leftists to employ and it's it's it's created a sort of just a a shooting
00:30:21.880 cage for young kids and i'm really glad that through youtubers like leaflet we are beginning
00:30:29.800 to see a coming back of bro like make kids it's hot right like remember what this is for you
00:30:39.760 remember what all of this is for don't let them be they the the leftist or the leftist created
00:30:46.560 mirror version mirror world version of christianity turn your kids into easy targets
00:30:53.400 and and everything in the way you style culture and everything like that this is i think the
00:30:58.140 problem with a lot of people. And they look at me, they're like, are you giving advice for us?
00:31:02.600 It's going to make our lives hard, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No. Everything that I think
00:31:07.020 through is like, how am I going to keep my kids from deconverting? How am I going to make my kids
00:31:11.980 resilient to this? And when it's advice, it's advice at the cultural level. How do we harden
00:31:18.520 our cultures to the tactics people use against us? And so it's important to understand that
00:31:24.860 pragmata masturbates the parental instinct within us and there are mechanisms that that instinct 0.97
00:31:31.660 can be masturbated like owning dogs and cats that are as degenerate as the absolute worst pornography 0.98
00:31:38.960 because they have degenerate effects on society and your life which is you end up becoming a cat 0.99
00:31:45.540 lady a cat lady we used to understand that becoming a cat lady was the very peak of human degeneracy
00:31:52.800 it was that generation's version of being the worst kind of gooner was in today's society
00:32:00.300 because you let that spin out of control and yet today jd vance points this out you know the the
00:32:06.600 using catwoman derogatorily and he gets hounded by the media because they are attempting to
00:32:10.800 normalize this and they normalize it by breaking apart the categories so you can't understand
00:32:16.860 what's what anymore you can't understand what's good and what's bad you can't say
00:32:20.720 real human beings bad right like that's an easy category there does it involve real human beings
00:32:27.080 bad right does it involve something that somebody is is making into like a daily thing for themselves
00:32:35.000 bad right but just normal human arousal pathways whatever and i i note here people can be like well
00:32:40.960 the bible expects you to never masturbate i'm like i'm pretty sure the bible would have explicitly
00:32:45.040 said that if the bible expects you to never masturbate and you can see our episode on what
00:32:49.040 the bible say about masturbation but the bible if you're looking into the old testament at least
00:32:52.560 there is one section where it explicitly talks about blocked or abnormal emissions and and many
00:32:58.260 people take this to mean well if you have a type of disease which is blocking emissions you are
00:33:03.040 unclean but what it implies is that it expected most men to be having emissions regularly not
00:33:10.000 most married men because it applies to all jewish men for this period but most men generally and
00:33:17.220 even if you take the stance that no it's not talking about that it's talking about only blocked
00:33:23.600 emissions in the context of a marriage where that would be relevant you still have to admit that
00:33:29.580 that's a pretty out there edge case to be mentioning in the bible abnormal emissions and blocked
00:33:36.300 emissions and then a number of paragraphs about what to do about that why does it never once when
00:33:42.160 it's a natural thing for humans and apes to do by the way because apes do this in nature to
00:33:47.000 masturbate why would it never mention this if it was so existentially dangerous and it existentially
00:33:53.420 didn't want you to do this and people can say oh well there's this section where the guy pulls out
00:33:58.220 before he finishes in a woman in a levite marriage and that's the same it's like no that's not that
00:34:03.520 was a legitimately horrifying thing a guy was doing so for context in the bible if your husband
00:34:10.380 dies you marry his brother that's a levite marriage this is meant so that you can carry on his line 0.98
00:34:16.000 and you know have children and so the guy was having sex with his brother's widow and pulling 0.99
00:34:23.800 out every time before he could do the function of sex which is coming inside of her so that she 0.99
00:34:29.040 could have a child literally using her as a human oni hole instead of actually doing the purpose of 0.99
00:34:37.180 sex which is getting her pregnant you know he could have chosen to not have sex with her but 1.00
00:34:41.580 no he kept having sex with her and pulling out before he gave her the one thing that she needed 0.87
00:34:45.820 horrifying horrifying scenario if you were going to stretch this beyond its original meaning the
00:34:53.020 more accurate stretch would be as a condemnation of any non-procreative sex so again i don't even
00:34:59.420 think i think that this is like a modern mirror fake version in the same way that like there's
00:35:04.780 some rightists today who inhabit this like super racist anti-semitic trope because they learn from
00:35:10.900 their like leftist parents that that's what a rightist is without like looking to history to
00:35:15.880 try to understand this stuff yeah that's underrated the extent to which the leftist's perception of
00:35:20.820 the right is purely based off of leftist straw men i mean and vice versa to be fair but if only
00:35:28.220 there were more exchange straw men that i did not understand the right because i just believed this
00:35:35.820 caricature that was presented to me as a kid and that's underrated i think to the the extent to
00:35:41.320 which that happens on both the left and the right when people right and i completely sympathize with
00:35:45.280 so many kids who grew up in the urban monoculture their parents had abandoned their culture or
00:35:50.220 never really taught it to them they discover that many things that are said was in the right
00:35:55.520 are true and then they try to adopt to win some sort of social hierarchy battle that they now
00:36:03.120 think they're playing among other rightists the most stereotypical rightist perceptions
00:36:08.680 within like what their community or what the leftist straw man told them the rightists were
00:36:14.500 like and like i can understand this very confusing to a lot of people and and somebody can look at me
00:36:20.020 and they can be like malcolm if you normalize all this stuff like life won't work out for you
00:36:23.760 you should live the way nick fuentes lives or whatever and i'm like okay but like i have five
00:36:30.300 kids and a loving relationship. And most of the people I see who push this extremely strict
00:36:36.700 deontological lifestyle are not happily married and don't have lots of kids and aren't actually
00:36:43.300 winning at things. Knowing where to loosen the rules on yourself is a really important part of
00:36:49.380 actually succeeding in life. And this is a conversation I think people did not expect
00:36:53.660 this particular talk to go. But now we're going to go to the second part of this, which is what
00:36:56.720 hassan had to say about this and i'm going to play the clip right here well family even streamers who
00:37:01.820 say at the start start they didn't want kids end up bringing down happy and tears so what's really
00:37:07.240 interesting about this is all of these unfuckable losers in the gaming sphere always talk about like 0.71
00:37:13.200 starting families and stuff and i don't understand like why this has become a thing that they care 0.91
00:37:19.120 about like if you're a gamer you should care about things that you actually experience you
00:37:25.180 you care about things that you actually enjoy right if you're a lonely gamer who has never
00:37:32.720 been around a woman and will never have sex with a woman why do you care like why do you care about
00:37:38.220 having children or like writing for having children like it's just not something that
00:37:41.980 you're gonna experience ever for your life for the rest of your life right this is something
00:37:46.320 that i never understand and this clip is important because again it represents a trope a trope that
00:37:54.020 the left wants to be true about gamers and it wasn't just hassan saying this it was lots of
00:38:01.040 people online saying this but it is factually incorrect so we decided to look into this we're
00:38:06.240 like okay hassan said gamer because i'm a gamer right and i would say for example my sin of playing
00:38:15.180 video games is dramatically worse than any sin i have tied to corn and the reason being because
00:38:22.420 sin, according to the Bible, is anything you don't do for God. And I don't play video games
00:38:27.320 for God. You can't play video games for God. Video games are for personal entertainment,
00:38:31.660 to masturbate instincts that you evolved. And so if I'm doing that many times more within my life
00:38:38.440 that I'm looking at something like corn, then it's a bigger challenge for me. It's a bigger
00:38:42.220 sin that I need to get through to live, I think, a perfect life. But I give myself loose rules
00:38:50.340 within some areas because i know i'm going to be tempted i know the end goal for all of this is a
00:38:54.700 happy and healthy family and a happy and healthy civilization and that if i focus too hard on this
00:39:02.040 rule in this rule that i'm not going to get to this rule and do it right which is the important
00:39:05.940 one which is the consequentialist one which is he have a family have kids treat your wife well
00:39:11.240 treat your kids well raise the next generation protect human civilization and this is no this
00:39:16.660 is really important right like so many of the people who are preaching this alternative perception
00:39:20.640 but anyway let's get to this study simone you put it together go over it video game developers
00:39:26.160 well yeah because we were talking in a long car drive about this i used with perplexity's help
00:39:32.540 i use perplexity to find notable video game developers and then see what their key games
00:39:40.680 were and if they were kids and i didn't i actually i did a separate grok search on whether they were
00:39:46.020 like woke game developers or not. It didn't actually seem to make a difference in some of
00:39:49.920 the data, depending on how you look at it. But I will remember to share this spreadsheet in the
00:39:55.360 show notes too. If anyone wants to look at it, we created basically a list of 30 notable male
00:40:02.300 video game developers, their key games and their father status, whether they're a father or
00:40:06.920 childless or unknown. And if we know how many kids, how many kids they have, plus source URLs.
00:40:11.840 and the fathers out of the 30 there were 20 of them so 66.7 so more likely than not a video game
00:40:20.860 developer is going to be a dad there were only two who were explicitly childless 6.7 and then
00:40:28.280 the rest were just unknown eight out of 30 which is 26.7 only two out of 30 didn't have kids that's
00:40:35.600 video game developers so only two are the genetic dead ends that hassan represents and i would note
00:40:42.260 here that this isn't just us that found this there was a study that showed that 55 of gamers are
00:40:48.580 married and 48 have children and single gamers is twice as likely to go on dates than non-gamers
00:40:55.300 so gamers actually end up having kids at a much higher rate than non-gamers and this sort of
00:41:03.960 comes to the wider point here even though gaming is sinful because it's purely done for personal
00:41:08.280 entertainment it has no positive externality on the world at large it can still have a positive
00:41:15.040 effect in your life if engaged with within a healthy context and i find this projection very
00:41:21.220 interesting from hazan because he's like you guys aren't having sex which is what what do you mean 0.84
00:41:26.900 gamers aren't what what like are you a middle school bully or something like do you did you
00:41:35.360 not even think to like okay what are what are like famous right-wing video game creators okay
00:41:40.660 we got five nights of freddy's guy i think he's got what seven kids he's got some in six i think
00:41:45.920 it's seven it might be six or something i think he's a lot and he's not even listed on this list
00:41:50.340 So the question is, why do you see so many game developers having kids when people like Hassan don't have kids? 0.89
00:42:00.040 And I think here we're going back to the soft Yankee phenomenon, which actually ties strongly into this whole entire conversation. 0.97
00:42:09.580 We point out in Japan, the group that seems to be higher fertility than the other groups is the soft Yankees.
00:42:17.000 so this is a style that in the past would have been seen they dressed like very american like 0.84
00:42:22.900 rode around on like harley davidson and did their hair slicked back team troublemakers yeah a yankee
00:42:28.640 character if you watch a lot of anime right and then as they got older they sort of toned it down
00:42:32.980 a bit but they still had families and everything and they still wanted to you know because they
00:42:37.280 were not taking life as hard as your typical japanese citizen does um whereas the typical
00:42:45.180 For example, they were more likely to live in their hometowns closer to their families, which is a big contrast to someone who, say, moved from a more rural area to Tokyo, where it's a lot harder to have a large family. 0.67
00:42:57.780 Well, I don't think that that's the most important part. 0.98
00:42:59.820 The most important part is that your typical Japanese salaryman is living a life of extremely strict deontological rules, typically. 1.00
00:43:08.980 And it's a miserable life. 1.00
00:43:10.360 I mean, the rates of death are just hard attack on the job.
00:43:13.760 That's not the point. 0.99
00:43:14.500 the point is is that they are living a life filled with very strict rules whereas yankee
00:43:21.120 culture was in japan was built around rule breaking yeah f you to the rules i'm going to
00:43:27.480 do things my way i'm going to do things the way that work best for some form of consequentialist
00:43:32.240 outcome for me there was one of our fans that did an analysis of various mormon districts based on
00:43:39.260 how religious they were and what he ended up filing was that the highest fertility districts
00:43:44.720 were not the highest religiosity districts it was actually the middling religiosity districts that
00:43:50.980 were the highest fertility and being extremely high religiosity as a mormon hit your fertility
00:43:55.780 rates and so the question is is why do we see this phenomenon around strict deontological value set
00:44:03.160 strict rule-based value sets and a failure to achieve the end that all of those rules were for
00:44:11.720 which is to say if you ask me at least like what's the point of all of the rules in a book like the
00:44:19.580 bible or in traditional cultures or in because there's a lot of rules that people just took away
00:44:24.540 right they're like oh we don't need that rule i don't understand why it's there like a rule was
00:44:27.920 put in place it solved a problem then you know the summer of love comes around and they're like
00:44:33.100 well i just don't understand why we can't just sleep with everyone and then as somebody pointed
00:44:37.160 out the decline in promiscuity that happened after the 70s wasn't because people rediscovered
00:44:42.900 morality but it was because they immediately figured out why all those rules were there
00:44:47.540 and it was called the aids crisis the point being is that a lot of these historic rules had
00:44:53.180 a point to them but it's also important to remember that our perception today of what
00:44:59.580 rules were in the past can sometimes be shaped by the urban monoculture, which lies to us around
00:45:06.780 what rules were normalized in the past. That lies to us around what cultural practices were normal
00:45:12.040 in the past to try to create a false framing of the past to put us in weaker positions. If you
00:45:17.760 see our episode about the degeneracy of the past or our ancestors, we talk about how in many ways
00:45:24.520 society has become dramatically more sexually conservative with some of the biggest being
00:45:30.360 showers group showers no longer being a thing group showers even more extreme things like key parties
00:45:36.360 key parties things where you go to a party and you'd like swap keys and you'd go home with
00:45:41.700 whoever's key you had yeah there was for i think even just the fact that there was dating culture
00:45:46.960 oh the whole donkey thing you were gonna say yeah well we don't i mean we do know that in some parts
00:45:51.620 of latin america donkeys were definitely a thing we don't know if the tijuana and the literal circle 0.98
00:45:55.360 jerks wasn't that another thing you talked about jerks were very common for men i think through 0.96
00:45:59.700 like the 1920s through like the 1950s or 60s and when i say men i talk about young men like high 0.95
00:46:04.900 school men would often it was considered like something they did uh and you can read about
00:46:09.840 this and like a lot of the literature of the period if you read older literature that it was
00:46:14.200 a thing that was done and was considered normal and not gay i'm not saying bring back this stuff
00:46:20.180 i'm just saying that if you thought that we moved from a society that was not degenerate to a 0.51
00:46:25.920 society that was degenerate you are believing a leftist lie about history and note here people
00:46:31.840 can be like well rule 34 that must be new and no oh that's what i was thinking it's not i mean if
00:46:38.400 you go back to the 1920s you have tijuana bibles yeah being sold widely please if you go back to
00:46:44.380 the 1700s you have people making stuff of marie antoinette and her ladies-in-waiting don't even
00:46:49.980 yeah yeah but the tijuana bibles were basically your first cartoon a year later you have your
00:46:55.440 first widely distributed r34 for people who aren't familiar with tijuana bibles you'd like go to your
00:47:00.000 local drugstore and you'd buy sort of under the table they had books that were rule 34 art of the
00:47:07.040 cartoons of the 1920s 1930s 1940s and these ended up transitioning into designs and then they died
00:47:14.400 out with the internet because there was alternate things that existed and and you see this you know
00:47:19.380 you go all the way back people are like well okay this this didn't exist in in in history and it's
00:47:26.720 like well i mean of course you have a james joyce wasn't it james joyce yeah james joyce james joyce
00:47:32.000 and his like fart fetish stuff that he would write so like he's high society right where you go back
00:47:37.840 to ancient greece and oh my god like the moment you invent a theological pantheon all of a sudden 0.95
00:47:44.240 everyone's having sex with each other in the weirdest possible ways and animals and whatever
00:47:49.640 right and then fortunately a superior culture came around and cleaned up a lot of that was like no
00:47:55.860 like let's not include the animals in this stuff but the point i'm making here is that
00:48:02.860 these people who created these very strict rules gamers don't have these as much gamers take life
00:48:10.040 a lot less rigidly because they're like look i'm gonna chill out at the end of the day i'm gonna
00:48:15.720 have like an hour of me time right that isn't that isn't for trying to move human civilization
00:48:21.420 forwards that isn't for trying to be a good person that isn't for my family that isn't for
00:48:28.740 and that this ability to be relaxed about part of your life allows you to because think about
00:48:37.260 when you if you're here saying pragmata is not core right functionally how is it different if
00:48:43.160 i'm in my room and i'm playing pragmata which i'm playing the game it's okay i am fathering
00:48:50.500 a fake child while i have a real children downstairs how is that not as ghoulish as 0.98
00:48:59.920 masturbating to a fake woman when i have a real wife in the other room that's a really good 0.99
00:49:07.160 point yeah that is that is obviously as ghoulish right and i and then people can be like well okay 0.97
00:49:16.500 well i only play games where i go around murdering fake people and i'm like how is that any better
00:49:23.440 okay you're instead of playing with your kids murdering fake people in a box all right i think
00:49:32.400 we need to admit to ourselves when something is sinful all right like this is i think the greatest
00:49:38.220 sin is to pretend that something is that is that is clearly very sinful isn't sinful or is some
00:49:45.340 different category of sin than the types of sin that other people are making yeah the final thing
00:49:50.060 to talk about was pragmata unless you had any comments on what i'm talking about here simone
00:49:53.040 no i just really do appreciate however the fact that you're bringing up this misnomer that somehow
00:50:00.900 now gamers are incels when they're they're actually just normal people
00:50:04.780 you know the people who are like i'll never play video like clearly there's some video game that
00:50:12.000 would likely be fun for most people and so if you're out there fastidiously not playing video
00:50:16.720 games it's because you're living by some strict deontological rule set hasan is living by one of
00:50:22.400 those rule sets and that's why he has a girlfriend who says she'll never breed with him because she
00:50:26.340 she doesn't want kids and so his life ends with him his line ends with him he is a genetic dead
00:50:32.280 end and if you are having sex with someone without reproducing being the point of it you know as 1.00
00:50:38.800 leaflet says the the way to have kids the board's control is for pussies if you are having sex with 0.99
00:50:45.000 somebody without that being the end goal you're just treating your partner as an oni hole right 0.99
00:50:52.220 as a sex toy that that's that's the the end of it right and i'm i'm sorry if that hurts some 0.97
00:50:57.600 people's feelings to hear but that's the reality of it you have reduced your partner to a level of 0.75
00:51:04.020 degeneracy worse than anything you will find online right because the stuff you find online 0.98
00:51:10.900 is fictional you have reduced a real human being to a sex toy which is disgusting that is all they 0.97
00:51:20.080 are was in your life if you are not having reproductive sex yeah and i know that like 0.93
00:51:25.400 i'm sorry that that got a little spicy there but it's it's the reality and and it's sad to think 0.99
00:51:32.640 of hassan furiously masturbating himself inside of this woman who he presumably has some affection 0.95
00:51:39.540 for instead of doing what's meaningful with his life because he believes he has followed all the 0.98
00:51:45.660 deontological rules or at least enough of them so he doesn't need to actually sacrifice for the
00:51:50.320 future and have kids which is the problem that many deontologists also on the right do they go
00:51:54.600 well i'm following enough of the important rules i don't actually need to do the really hard stuff
00:52:00.020 which is go out there and talk to women right you know that's the really hard part right they're
00:52:04.880 like oh well it the bible doesn't you know say it's sinful to close myself in my house and not
00:52:10.220 talk to women so i'm not gonna but all of those other rules in the bible assume that you're doing
00:52:15.140 that anyway right like all of those other rules was was to achieve this outcome for you which was
00:52:19.880 a a married household with lots of kids that were raised in a way that made them
00:52:24.800 effectatious in the future the rules weren't to like with you okay or or make your life
00:52:31.460 arbitrarily hard it was to guide you in the right direction and when you overly follow like this
00:52:40.180 this and this you can forget oh but the really hard thing i need to motivate myself to do today
00:52:45.120 day is talk to a girl now the final point were there people online and i had prepared a bunch
00:52:51.220 of like quotes that people had had about the game and getting mad about it getting mad about its
00:52:55.040 pronatalist message people saying oh people are telling on themselves by finding her hot or
00:52:59.920 whatever that leftists are evil and evil can't see good i mean is this really true or is this
00:53:07.440 just us trying to make ourselves feel good as people on the right like it feels good to say
00:53:13.080 leftists can't see that this is actually a game about being a dad and i think that there is some
00:53:20.120 truths to this there are some leftists who are so cooked that they reflexively can't help but see a
00:53:29.120 child and see a sexual object because that is the only way they relate to anything any media any
00:53:34.740 well then there's a reminder that most people now are well probably most i need to check but most
00:53:42.360 are growing up without exposure to younger siblings certainly not prolonged exposure so
00:53:47.200 they kind of don't know how to contextualize young girls differently if they're not aside from being
00:53:51.480 a kid ever around young girls you know as an older sibling or something that makes sense
00:53:56.540 but i think that most of the leftist anger around the game is downstream of three alternate reactions
00:54:06.120 and they're just trying to hide the reactions in a way that they can use to attack their political
00:54:13.920 opponents and i think it's important that we don't accidentally do the same because if we do
00:54:19.020 if we don't actually attempt to model our political opponents then we cannot predict them and if we
00:54:24.840 cannot predict them we cannot fight them as well the reason i'm able to do something like bait a
00:54:30.300 telemundo reporter into a trap is because i understand her perspective and i can predict her
00:54:36.480 she doesn't understand my perspective and therefore cannot predict me and so falls in that
00:54:42.540 trap so where are they going with this how do they see it so the first thing is they don't like
00:54:48.700 their political opponents being happy they see men and gamers and men who enjoy sexual things
00:54:55.300 as their opponents and this is why they remove sexual things from video games because they want
00:54:59.980 make you a straight man sad that's that's really it they want you to have less pleasure they don't
00:55:05.800 do it and this this is where they align and this is why so much of the on like the the like new
00:55:11.860 right or the online right got and cut its teeth fighting for the de-censorship of sexy female
00:55:20.000 characters in games and we are intentionally hobbling ourselves if we don't do that right
00:55:26.580 because we say oh i the left but for reasons i won't get down to here i'm actually going to talk
00:55:33.940 about this with leaflet the left started to hate beauty and they thought they both hate beauty and
00:55:39.960 they hate especially beautiful women because beautiful women make straight white men happy
00:55:44.640 especially beautiful white women so let's remove all of those from video games and now we can put 0.99
00:55:50.700 those back in our games and and please gamers and there's going to be a part of the faction says 0.99
00:55:55.000 don't put beautiful women in games because that's sinful and it's like off right like absolutely you 1.00
00:56:00.320 are removing one of our weapons for no reason when it's an easy fight for us to win yes make 0.99
00:56:07.160 games beautiful again right so one is for the same reason they want to make women in games ugly they
00:56:12.540 just don't want you to be happy they see people being happy with a young girl and taking on a
00:56:16.940 father role for her and they go well i don't like i don't like these people are happy let's see if
00:56:21.400 can make some big stink and make studios not make games like this anymore okay okay that's what all 0.77
00:56:27.580 right the next reason the next reason is that they see men masturbating this emotional pathway
00:56:38.500 of being a father and they are afraid that men will realize that they want to be fathers in the 0.99
00:56:46.420 same way that some idiots are afraid that like, if men see corn, they're going to realize they 1.00
00:56:55.360 want to have sex. And so we will not let them see corn. And it's like, well, most men know they 1.00
00:57:01.280 want to have sex. Okay. I'm sorry. That's like, it's pretty hard coded in our biology and it's 0.91
00:57:07.420 pretty hard coded in our biology because those of us who didn't do it didn't have surviving
00:57:11.700 offspring and most men who haven't been brainwashed by our culture know that they want kids now and
00:57:17.760 you even see this in statistic men want kids significantly more than women today but it is
00:57:21.800 true that a lot of men were brainwashed in our culture today so much so that they literally
00:57:26.120 thought i don't actually want kids and so they see this context and it does help break that
00:57:31.480 brainwashing for some men like oh it is pleasurable to raise children and i have said before on the
00:57:37.780 show people have taken this as some sort of like weird self-owned or something like this where i
00:57:42.120 said it is like if i'm contrasting the pleasure i get from like blocking out you know 30 minutes
00:57:48.460 to an hour to have sex versus 30 minutes to an hour playing with the kids it's like not even
00:57:53.280 close playing with the kids feels much better than sex does i'm actually curious if if there
00:57:57.940 are any parents of kids who would disagree let us know in the comments like i i haven't encountered
00:58:04.360 to anyone who feels differently but I'm curious they must be out there apparently yeah yeah people
00:58:13.140 think like I'm owning myself by saying that or something like that and it's like no like clearly
00:58:19.300 as an adult you you get to a point where you are having sex for kids you're like well I want more
00:58:27.200 of these things like I should schedule some time to make more of them and a lot of people contextualize
00:58:33.600 this very badly they're like oh well this means you know the person's wife isn't gratifying him
00:58:40.320 enough or isn't going far enough out it's like no like when you get to like five in kids and
00:58:45.040 note here i'm not talking about one or two kids like when i had one or two kids i still you know
00:58:50.060 it's about even maybe sex is a bit better right but when you've got five kids playing with five
00:58:55.320 kids just feels quite better and it's a party it's more than just playing better in a way that
00:59:01.100 doesn't have any negatives to it you know afterwards you don't feel guilty but you don't
00:59:06.800 feel it's it's like perfect clean pleasure right like there there's no negative externalities to
00:59:14.200 taking some time to play with the kids you you can for example if you're seeking pleasure
00:59:19.120 you can do that for god like it's not a sin to play with your kids right and you can get a lot
00:59:24.400 of pleasure from that. Right. So I'm sorry. I'm the reason I'm going into all of this is I think
00:59:31.500 that a lot of men don't realize how fun this is going to be. And so they see this and they go,
00:59:36.280 Oh, like, this is a lot of fun. Also, I'd say for guys, don't let your experience with babies mess
00:59:43.480 up how much you think you're going to like kids. Most guys don't really like babies. There are a
00:59:48.940 few that do but like we're not really designed to be a primary caregiver at that stage of a human's
00:59:56.100 life for obvious reasons we can't feed them if you were unaware so there's a reason they are
01:00:02.940 typically with the mothers in an evolutionary context yeah key point being evolutionary context
01:00:09.760 so yeah the third reason is that they genuinely do not like the idea that people may have kids
01:00:21.260 as a result of this and that i think is probably the biggest is they think oh no our messaging is
01:00:33.800 falling apart both in regards to kids and in regards to men wanting a stable marriage and
01:00:39.680 family and i mean like genuinely wanting it wanting it more than playing a game where you
01:00:45.780 walk around shooting people right like a guy no imagine you're a guy you've played a few games
01:00:50.840 recently you go which game did i enjoy the most the one where i was being a dad or the one where
01:00:55.140 i was walking around shooting people well i mean as a man i do like shooting people of course and
01:01:00.160 i wish i could do that more in the real world but i can't right there's negative externalities to
01:01:06.020 that but there isn't negative externalities from having a kid and i might have enjoyed that game
01:01:09.500 a bit more than the others so i should give it a try so i also think the the propaganda is pretty
01:01:13.800 good here so final thoughts simone well i didn't realize people were actively choosing to play this
01:01:20.340 game because they wanted to play a parenting simulator game and i wish people discussed that
01:01:27.800 more because i had no idea i thought people were feeling like they were being psyoped into being
01:01:32.600 a parent aspirational parents when they just wanted literally the only thing anyone's been
01:01:39.660 talking about since the demo first showcase for that's a really good sign though if all these
01:01:43.820 people want to play a parent simulator game isn't that cool isn't that awesome doesn't that mean
01:01:48.860 people actually really do like the idea of becoming parents and that maybe in the future
01:01:54.120 people will start to just overcome the stated barriers to parenthood like i'm not prepared
01:02:00.460 and also as a final point here like to note for people who are like oh don't you understand that
01:02:07.660 like corn ends up exaggerating all of the parts of procreation that you know to unrealistic
01:02:15.880 standards people made that point with their criticisms of this as well they're like well
01:02:20.000 you're not dealing with the spitting and the screaming and the diapers and the you know all
01:02:23.560 that well yeah and that's that's the point i want to make i want to make you you cannot criticize
01:02:27.780 corn for being unrealistic and over the top and super normal stimuli this is a stimuli that is
01:02:34.840 like bigger and better than anything that would exist in the real world and then say this game
01:02:39.540 stimulating another masturbating another parental instinct pathway a pathway about having children
01:02:46.460 isn't doing the exact same thing it's almost cartoonish in a way you know as somebody who
01:02:52.220 has a lot of experience around young kids the way that this character acts is a caricature of an
01:03:00.720 over-the-top way a kid her age would act it's not the way children her age actually i'm not talking
01:03:07.600 about oh you're not dealing with the spitting you're not dealing with the pooping in the pants 0.52
01:03:11.020 you're not dealing with a this kid's older than that a kid of this age is pooping in their pants
01:03:14.800 there's like serious developmental problems or spitting or having breakdowns our kid who's
01:03:19.440 closest to this age doesn't do any of that anymore but even with all of that being the case
01:03:25.160 she still acts in a way that is completely super normal and not the way children actually act
01:03:31.740 it's it's to a kid whatever a girl doing the like sexy girl thing you know like oh i'm so hot i'm 1.00
01:03:43.820 you know like when when they're trying to look like what they think a sexy girl looks like
01:03:47.940 it's doing that but for what people think the cutest most adorable kid ever would do and and
01:03:54.980 here i will note that the face again does seem a little it okay i was trying to age i'll see if i
01:04:04.680 can find this age up our daughter because i like aging up our daughters to see oh what are they
01:04:09.380 gonna look like when they're 20 what are they gonna look like when they're 30 you know etc
01:04:11.960 and one of them messed up and it moved her face to the age of 20 but it didn't move the rest of
01:04:17.440 her body to the age of 20 oh gross that image is the closest image i've seen to the pragmata
01:04:22.140 character yeah you know what that makes sense i'm sorry i know this isn't a popular opinion
01:04:29.140 on the right but they they did kind of mess up her face but again it's because they're going
01:04:34.780 with the most cutesy super normal stimuli for people who may not have a super good grasp of
01:04:39.840 what kids of this age range look like but by the way using ai to age up your kids is underrated i
01:04:45.140 I mean, studies have shown that when you contextualize yourself in the future or when you're primed by the researchers looking at your behavior to think about your future self or think as your future self or look at pictures of your future self, you tend to make more responsible decisions about your long term life.
01:05:02.660 You know, you don't choose the easy, indulgent thing now, you choose the thing better for the future.
01:05:07.420 And one thing that we do when we make these aged up photos of our kids is show them, hey, this could be you in the future.
01:05:14.080 this is you in the dinosaur lab making your dinosaur this is you in front of your helicopter
01:05:18.760 whatever like whatever they're into and it can i think it has been motivating for them to do the
01:05:24.540 right thing or to focus on making themselves better when otherwise they would not be interested
01:05:30.500 because what's the payoff for them but it's pretty cool when they can see who they could be
01:05:34.520 yeah anyway love you to death simone the wild take on this one i think for people
01:05:42.300 who have been waiting for us to just dunk on leftists, which I don't think is helpful to do.
01:05:46.860 I think we need to make sure that we understand where they're really coming from and that we
01:05:52.040 understand and properly categorize the stimuli that exist in our environment and not rely on
01:05:57.700 stereotypes as to what those stimuli are or what they represent. Fair enough.
01:06:06.260 And by the way, note here, somebody's like, there's no such thing as
01:06:10.080 corn that's as wholesome as something like pragmata like i've literally posted one before it's like
01:06:16.060 the hentai leak on the stream it's called like when i returned to my hometown my childhood friend
01:06:21.240 was broken oh yeah like the actual hentai yeah by the way no it doesn't have like it does a weird
01:06:29.720 thing where it just tells a really wholesome story and then all of the actual like inappropriate
01:06:35.360 scenes are after the story is over but take place throughout the story so you can read the story
01:06:41.020 without accidentally hitting any of the inappropriate scenes um but the point is it's a
01:06:46.320 it's a actually fairly popular hentai about meeting a childhood friend who's going through
01:06:52.240 emotional trauma helping them overcome it getting married and having kids and the point i'm making
01:06:57.840 here here is not everything out there is degenerate right the negatives of this sort of material is
01:07:04.060 the effect it has on your life your perception of women or men and your perception of reality
01:07:10.220 and it is so ubiquitous in the world we live in it is up to you to engage with this sort of content
01:07:18.180 in a healthy way it is a self-control that is going to be required of you and of the next
01:07:24.500 generation or we are going to die out as a species and we need to be very careful to not
01:07:30.760 get one-shotted because we see the instinct to have sex and we say this is always dangerous
01:07:37.720 always and everywhere when that is not the case and we see the instinct to play with our children
01:07:42.480 and we say this is always healthy always and everywhere and it could never come in one-shot
01:07:47.980 me in some way being honest and clear-headed about each of these instincts and how they can be
01:07:53.960 manipulated or engaged with in ways that are healthy or unhealthy is critical if your line
01:08:02.300 is going to survive. And building up the self-control to do that is critical if your
01:08:07.600 line is going to survive. The distinction here and the criticality of this distinction is much
01:08:12.500 easier to see in erotic material for women than it is for men. Women, clearly, like monster effort 0.99
01:08:17.520 books, are not good for a woman's brain and how she perceives men and how she perceives society. 0.95
01:08:22.080 But that isn't to say all romance books that a woman could read that are basically stimulating the same pathways are not going to get her to end up fantasizing about a positive and healthy relationship with a man. 0.75
01:08:34.760 It is that she chooses the degenerate option that ends up scrambling her brain.
01:08:40.580 It is that she chooses to perceive things like that that ends up scrambling her brain.
01:08:44.980 It is not the very essence of books about romance.
01:08:48.960 I mean, what about the girl who grows up reading the books about the heroic knight with positive qualities who saves the woman?
01:08:57.660 That is the same genre as the monster effer genre.
01:09:01.400 Fundamentally, it's hitting the same pathways.
01:09:03.420 It's just doing it in a positive contextualization.
01:09:06.460 And for the guys who say, well, when degeneracy is an option, I just can't help but choose it.
01:09:12.140 It's, first of all, no, you can't.
01:09:15.640 You have the self-control.
01:09:16.700 You're choosing not to have the self-control.
01:09:18.960 But if you genuinely, at a biological level, lack the self-control to not choose degeneracy, then it's pointless, right?
01:09:28.240 Like, your kids or grandkids are going to be shot, too. 0.99
01:09:31.480 You're a genetic dead end. 0.99
01:09:32.900 And I don't need to manipulate society or change society in a way that's going to lead to children getting graped to protect weak genetic dead ends like you. 0.95
01:09:42.720 Like, there is actually healthy material out there.
01:09:47.220 it's that you are choosing something to generate
01:09:51.960 there you go it's all about choices all right love you simone i love you too
01:09:59.900 all right we just made it back from dc and for anyone who's still watching at this point in the
01:10:10.520 video i will be streaming with leaflet tonight at 9 p.m est let's see if i stay up all night again
01:10:17.840 so i'll probably be streaming tomorrow morning too depending that's what happened saturday morning
01:10:22.140 yet it's a 10 hour stream last time so we'll see what ends up happening this time
01:10:26.680 i made the the horrible mistake of thinking oh i'm hopping on leaflet to talk with her for a few
01:10:32.840 hours because you know that's the longest a video could possibly go so i start drinking at the
01:10:38.200 beginning of our conversation not even realizing how late it had gotten or how long we've been
01:10:44.160 talking right no it was so so cool though i think a lot of people enjoyed it yeah yeah i think this
01:10:50.740 one will do well so well well i mean i hope it does well for her build up we'll be doing this
01:10:56.480 every other friday by the way if you if you miss this one or at least that's a plan you know we'll
01:11:00.200 see maybe you know something happens some drama happens yeah well and it doesn't end up working
01:11:06.340 out anything you want to say you know no oh my god hold on sorry octane's been no that's a mistake
01:11:19.940 don't go outside
01:11:36.340 Sorry, I just want to make sure Octavian. 1.00
01:11:43.060 Oh my god, I'm going to kill him. 0.96
01:11:44.620 What was Octavian doing? 1.00
01:11:47.140 Do I need to put more water in my hair? 0.88
01:11:49.360 No, I think it's fine.
01:11:51.040 Maybe run your fingers through it.
01:11:56.640 He's just farting me.
01:11:57.920 Yeah, he's just trolling me now.
01:12:00.900 he just wants to use our intercom system for fart jokes
01:12:08.900 okay well i'll get started okay simon okay
01:12:12.220 oh my god come on just send
01:12:26.240 okay sorry go ahead all right and this is the type of thing where you don't have to waste time
01:12:36.540 doing this you know you're choosing to spend time doing this well no because he thought i said to go
01:12:41.840 outside the fence and he will wander off and it's not safe yeah i it is not it's not safe for us
01:12:49.780 to say yeah it's okay for you to play outside and they're like outside the fence you mean
01:12:55.040 and that's...
01:12:56.180 Okay.
01:12:56.960 That's dangerous.
01:12:59.780 Okay, come on.
01:13:03.440 You can open these.
01:13:04.720 You have to go really quick.
01:13:05.520 You can open these.
01:13:06.960 Oh, yeah, I remember that.
01:13:07.660 That's a private jet.
01:13:09.940 Come on, I'm taking it, I'm taking it.
01:13:11.600 Okay, let's go back.
01:13:12.940 You have to go.
01:13:13.760 Do we have pictures?
01:13:15.200 I got a video of you.
01:13:16.380 Oh, okay.
01:13:17.380 Wait.
01:13:18.620 Oh!
01:13:20.720 Oh. 1.00
01:13:22.760 Come on, go.
01:13:25.040 Thank you.