00:00:00.000Korn, what it does is all humans, because of evolutionary reasons, have a collection of pathways that cause pleasure when you do things tied to the birthing and rearing of the next generation.
00:00:20.520If I'm in my room and I'm playing Pragmata, which I'm playing the game, I am fathering a fake child while I have real children downstairs.0.98
00:00:32.780How is that not as ghoulish as masturbating to a fake woman when I have a real wife in the other room?0.99
00:00:44.540And if you think of being stogy and hair splitting here, one, remember, I can't make the same take on this that every other conservative commentator has had.
00:00:50.280I've got to have something new and fresh, so keep that in mind.
00:00:53.080But two, right now everyone's so excited because this is the first time they have seen a game
00:00:58.680that is meant to masturbate the instinct to be a parent and father a child,
00:01:04.020and so they are excited about it because some of them didn't realize they had this emotion.0.52
00:01:07.980And in getting people to realize that, yes, playing with children is actually fun
00:01:11.720and something they want to do and having children of their own is something they want to do
00:01:14.860is a fundamentally good thing that this game was released.
00:01:18.140but the warning against the masturbation of this pathway and how toxic it can be
00:01:23.820is going to be made evidence in the years to come as people can whiz ai simulate children
00:01:31.780would you like to know more hello simone i'm excited to be talking with you again after a
00:01:36.220few days break of course our audience wouldn't know that but we were in dc talking with political
00:01:41.260types and now we are back and there is an episode that everyone's been asking us to do
00:01:47.180and we are not going to have the take that you imagine on this one which is about the controversy
00:01:53.600which has come downstream of a game named pragmata and the controversy basically goes bunch of leftists
00:02:01.780saw this game and they were either mad at it because they said it promoted pronatalism which
00:02:06.740it very explicitly does the first scene in the game before you meet the little girl android who
00:02:11.580you're supposed to form a bond with one of the characters is talking about fatherhood and the
00:02:15.500other guy's like oh it must be really hard and he's like no it's like the best thing ever so it's
00:02:18.940very it's not like a oh we accidentally made a game that made people want to become dads it's
00:02:25.100the core theme of the game okay then some of them are mad because they say that the little girl is
00:02:33.420sexualized which i mean she's not although i will say her face design is a little weird to me like
00:02:40.180it does not look like the face of someone of that age to the people who point that out like
00:02:44.180make a point around that and if you're upset that i don't have the standard conservative take on
00:02:48.760this game i want to have as true or honest of a take i have to the extent that it is also something
00:02:56.580new that you haven't heard before and is intellectually stimulating because if it's just
00:03:01.060let's dunk on progressives for being icked by a game that promotes traditional value systems
00:03:08.720that's boring you've heard that already right so let's let's try to dig a bit deeper than this
00:03:13.980But here, what I've done, just for those of you who have not seen, because her character in the game is supposed to be the equivalent of a six-year-old girl, here is her face next to a bunch of six-year-old girl faces.
00:03:24.380And I hope you can see that these two things, they're not the same.
00:03:28.740There's something off about her design.
00:26:01.900we need to have a degree of flexibility to stay maximally structurally strong and protect our
00:26:10.580children the reason they're trying to sign up us into this rigidity is because when they do
00:26:15.520it makes it very easy to lure our children out of the tradition and we can see as we have adopted
00:26:23.140more flexibility as a movement i mean if you had told me 10 years ago some of the leading
00:26:29.300conservative influencers would be like anthro fox girls furries you know whether it be kirsha
00:26:34.100smug alana slime girl leaflet i'd be like that how how isn't the right so strict and rigid around
00:26:41.780this stuff but as we have loosened that and say no it's okay to be flexible in this stuff so long
00:26:46.340as it's not in a way that's causing active harm to our members we can outmaneuver the left where
00:26:53.140they have begun to worship ugliness and as long as they're going to insist on making all of their0.73
00:26:58.500females ugly we have a huge asymmetric advantage in the culture war whereas we allow for attractiveness1.00
00:27:07.840within our influencers even where we're creating super normal iterations of that eg v tubers0.99
00:27:15.580there there was a group who hated talking about this stuff see our quaker episode but what happened
00:27:21.420to them they mostly died out some iterances of their group even began to think that sex was in
00:27:27.440marriage was sinful like the shakers and they died out extra hard so the point that i'm making is i0.98
00:27:33.520think that we are we are bringing this back in a way that's protective of our communities and people1.00
00:27:37.720can say oh well what about like the colorado strategy or whatever i can't with the colorado
00:27:41.520something and it's like if you ever allow degeneracy it always helps our opponents and not
00:27:46.200us and here they're referring to colorado loosening the ban on marijuana and here i say to
00:27:53.620them are you actually kidding me and note here when i'm talking about corn i'm not talking about
00:27:58.520anything that's involving real humans that is i think pretty much always has negative externalities
00:28:04.680for society there's there's ai stuff there's drawn stuff there's you know i'm not talking about real
00:28:10.280humans because then that involves those real humans and ends up ruining their lives but the
00:28:13.720colorado strategy is really stupid because the reason why colorado ended up flipping blue after1.00
00:28:19.600they legalized pot was because they legalized effing pot you idiots like obviously if you were1.00
00:28:27.000the first state to legalize pot that's going to bring a bunch of lefties from all over the country1.00
00:28:31.340to your state and they're going to vote in a lefty way that has nothing to do with the wider
00:28:36.160conversation now why is it so important for the left to try to trick you into thinking that
00:28:42.040historic christian groups were incredibly humorously enough they made up the term
00:28:48.220puritanical about sex which is the antithesis of the way the puritans viewed sex and the by the0.94
00:28:54.120way most of the the christian groups other than the quakers didn't really care like the backwards0.95
00:28:57.740people would talk about sex very frequently as well they they had no trouble talking about it0.98
00:29:02.700it didn't have big social taboos around it in the way it does in modern society why did they have to
00:29:07.380convince us of that it's because it's the number one way that they get our kids it's important to
00:29:12.360remember that if you're a protestant for every one person that converts to a protestant two people
00:29:16.080leave the church. If you're a Catholic, for every one person that converts into the church,
00:29:19.380eight people leave the church, right? Like the church is even now, now it looks like it may0.69
00:29:24.840have tapered off in some of the latest polling, but it's pretty much bleeding members, or at least
00:29:29.260it has been for a very long time. And we need to think about how and why. And the easiest strategy
00:29:34.860to get your kids has been, oh, you little Tommy, you feel arousal. That must mean that you are
00:29:42.480sinful but look at us like we feel arousal and it's accepted in our community or you feel this
00:29:48.920type of arousal that your parents say makes you evil right and so you might as well just join us
00:29:54.480and this strategy was like super successful like it one-shotted so many christian kids because it's0.72
00:30:01.300it's it's when you're going through a time and you're first feeling these emotions and you don't
00:30:05.220have anyone else you can go to or you don't feel like you have anyone else you can go to because
00:30:09.040this stuff has been so stigmatized by the way that your family talks about it it it's a very
00:30:14.180easy strat for the leftists to employ and it's it's it's created a sort of just a a shooting
00:30:21.880cage for young kids and i'm really glad that through youtubers like leaflet we are beginning
00:30:29.800to see a coming back of bro like make kids it's hot right like remember what this is for you
00:30:39.760remember what all of this is for don't let them be they the the leftist or the leftist created
00:30:46.560mirror version mirror world version of christianity turn your kids into easy targets
00:30:53.400and and everything in the way you style culture and everything like that this is i think the
00:30:58.140problem with a lot of people. And they look at me, they're like, are you giving advice for us?
00:31:02.600It's going to make our lives hard, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No. Everything that I think
00:31:07.020through is like, how am I going to keep my kids from deconverting? How am I going to make my kids
00:31:11.980resilient to this? And when it's advice, it's advice at the cultural level. How do we harden
00:31:18.520our cultures to the tactics people use against us? And so it's important to understand that
00:31:24.860pragmata masturbates the parental instinct within us and there are mechanisms that that instinct0.97
00:31:31.660can be masturbated like owning dogs and cats that are as degenerate as the absolute worst pornography0.98
00:31:38.960because they have degenerate effects on society and your life which is you end up becoming a cat0.99
00:31:45.540lady a cat lady we used to understand that becoming a cat lady was the very peak of human degeneracy
00:31:52.800it was that generation's version of being the worst kind of gooner was in today's society
00:32:00.300because you let that spin out of control and yet today jd vance points this out you know the the
00:32:06.600using catwoman derogatorily and he gets hounded by the media because they are attempting to
00:32:10.800normalize this and they normalize it by breaking apart the categories so you can't understand
00:32:16.860what's what anymore you can't understand what's good and what's bad you can't say
00:32:20.720real human beings bad right like that's an easy category there does it involve real human beings
00:32:27.080bad right does it involve something that somebody is is making into like a daily thing for themselves
00:32:35.000bad right but just normal human arousal pathways whatever and i i note here people can be like well
00:32:40.960the bible expects you to never masturbate i'm like i'm pretty sure the bible would have explicitly
00:32:45.040said that if the bible expects you to never masturbate and you can see our episode on what
00:32:49.040the bible say about masturbation but the bible if you're looking into the old testament at least
00:32:52.560there is one section where it explicitly talks about blocked or abnormal emissions and and many
00:32:58.260people take this to mean well if you have a type of disease which is blocking emissions you are
00:33:03.040unclean but what it implies is that it expected most men to be having emissions regularly not
00:33:10.000most married men because it applies to all jewish men for this period but most men generally and
00:33:17.220even if you take the stance that no it's not talking about that it's talking about only blocked
00:33:23.600emissions in the context of a marriage where that would be relevant you still have to admit that
00:33:29.580that's a pretty out there edge case to be mentioning in the bible abnormal emissions and blocked
00:33:36.300emissions and then a number of paragraphs about what to do about that why does it never once when
00:33:42.160it's a natural thing for humans and apes to do by the way because apes do this in nature to
00:33:47.000masturbate why would it never mention this if it was so existentially dangerous and it existentially
00:33:53.420didn't want you to do this and people can say oh well there's this section where the guy pulls out
00:33:58.220before he finishes in a woman in a levite marriage and that's the same it's like no that's not that
00:34:03.520was a legitimately horrifying thing a guy was doing so for context in the bible if your husband
00:34:10.380dies you marry his brother that's a levite marriage this is meant so that you can carry on his line0.98
00:34:16.000and you know have children and so the guy was having sex with his brother's widow and pulling0.99
00:34:23.800out every time before he could do the function of sex which is coming inside of her so that she0.99
00:34:29.040could have a child literally using her as a human oni hole instead of actually doing the purpose of0.99
00:34:37.180sex which is getting her pregnant you know he could have chosen to not have sex with her but1.00
00:34:41.580no he kept having sex with her and pulling out before he gave her the one thing that she needed0.87
00:34:45.820horrifying horrifying scenario if you were going to stretch this beyond its original meaning the
00:34:53.020more accurate stretch would be as a condemnation of any non-procreative sex so again i don't even
00:34:59.420think i think that this is like a modern mirror fake version in the same way that like there's
00:35:04.780some rightists today who inhabit this like super racist anti-semitic trope because they learn from
00:35:10.900their like leftist parents that that's what a rightist is without like looking to history to
00:35:15.880try to understand this stuff yeah that's underrated the extent to which the leftist's perception of
00:35:20.820the right is purely based off of leftist straw men i mean and vice versa to be fair but if only
00:35:28.220there were more exchange straw men that i did not understand the right because i just believed this
00:35:35.820caricature that was presented to me as a kid and that's underrated i think to the the extent to
00:35:41.320which that happens on both the left and the right when people right and i completely sympathize with
00:35:45.280so many kids who grew up in the urban monoculture their parents had abandoned their culture or
00:35:50.220never really taught it to them they discover that many things that are said was in the right
00:35:55.520are true and then they try to adopt to win some sort of social hierarchy battle that they now
00:36:03.120think they're playing among other rightists the most stereotypical rightist perceptions
00:36:08.680within like what their community or what the leftist straw man told them the rightists were
00:36:14.500like and like i can understand this very confusing to a lot of people and and somebody can look at me
00:36:20.020and they can be like malcolm if you normalize all this stuff like life won't work out for you
00:36:23.760you should live the way nick fuentes lives or whatever and i'm like okay but like i have five
00:36:30.300kids and a loving relationship. And most of the people I see who push this extremely strict
00:36:36.700deontological lifestyle are not happily married and don't have lots of kids and aren't actually
00:36:43.300winning at things. Knowing where to loosen the rules on yourself is a really important part of
00:36:49.380actually succeeding in life. And this is a conversation I think people did not expect
00:36:53.660this particular talk to go. But now we're going to go to the second part of this, which is what
00:36:56.720hassan had to say about this and i'm going to play the clip right here well family even streamers who
00:37:01.820say at the start start they didn't want kids end up bringing down happy and tears so what's really
00:37:07.240interesting about this is all of these unfuckable losers in the gaming sphere always talk about like0.71
00:37:13.200starting families and stuff and i don't understand like why this has become a thing that they care0.91
00:37:19.120about like if you're a gamer you should care about things that you actually experience you
00:37:25.180you care about things that you actually enjoy right if you're a lonely gamer who has never
00:37:32.720been around a woman and will never have sex with a woman why do you care like why do you care about
00:37:38.220having children or like writing for having children like it's just not something that
00:37:41.980you're gonna experience ever for your life for the rest of your life right this is something
00:37:46.320that i never understand and this clip is important because again it represents a trope a trope that
00:37:54.020the left wants to be true about gamers and it wasn't just hassan saying this it was lots of
00:38:01.040people online saying this but it is factually incorrect so we decided to look into this we're
00:38:06.240like okay hassan said gamer because i'm a gamer right and i would say for example my sin of playing
00:38:15.180video games is dramatically worse than any sin i have tied to corn and the reason being because
00:38:22.420sin, according to the Bible, is anything you don't do for God. And I don't play video games
00:38:27.320for God. You can't play video games for God. Video games are for personal entertainment,
00:38:31.660to masturbate instincts that you evolved. And so if I'm doing that many times more within my life
00:38:38.440that I'm looking at something like corn, then it's a bigger challenge for me. It's a bigger
00:38:42.220sin that I need to get through to live, I think, a perfect life. But I give myself loose rules
00:38:50.340within some areas because i know i'm going to be tempted i know the end goal for all of this is a
00:38:54.700happy and healthy family and a happy and healthy civilization and that if i focus too hard on this
00:39:02.040rule in this rule that i'm not going to get to this rule and do it right which is the important
00:39:05.940one which is the consequentialist one which is he have a family have kids treat your wife well
00:39:11.240treat your kids well raise the next generation protect human civilization and this is no this
00:39:16.660is really important right like so many of the people who are preaching this alternative perception
00:39:20.640but anyway let's get to this study simone you put it together go over it video game developers
00:39:26.160well yeah because we were talking in a long car drive about this i used with perplexity's help
00:39:32.540i use perplexity to find notable video game developers and then see what their key games
00:39:40.680were and if they were kids and i didn't i actually i did a separate grok search on whether they were
00:39:46.020like woke game developers or not. It didn't actually seem to make a difference in some of
00:39:49.920the data, depending on how you look at it. But I will remember to share this spreadsheet in the
00:39:55.360show notes too. If anyone wants to look at it, we created basically a list of 30 notable male
00:40:02.300video game developers, their key games and their father status, whether they're a father or
00:40:06.920childless or unknown. And if we know how many kids, how many kids they have, plus source URLs.
00:40:11.840and the fathers out of the 30 there were 20 of them so 66.7 so more likely than not a video game
00:40:20.860developer is going to be a dad there were only two who were explicitly childless 6.7 and then
00:40:28.280the rest were just unknown eight out of 30 which is 26.7 only two out of 30 didn't have kids that's
00:40:35.600video game developers so only two are the genetic dead ends that hassan represents and i would note
00:40:42.260here that this isn't just us that found this there was a study that showed that 55 of gamers are
00:40:48.580married and 48 have children and single gamers is twice as likely to go on dates than non-gamers
00:40:55.300so gamers actually end up having kids at a much higher rate than non-gamers and this sort of
00:41:03.960comes to the wider point here even though gaming is sinful because it's purely done for personal
00:41:08.280entertainment it has no positive externality on the world at large it can still have a positive
00:41:15.040effect in your life if engaged with within a healthy context and i find this projection very
00:41:21.220interesting from hazan because he's like you guys aren't having sex which is what what do you mean0.84
00:41:26.900gamers aren't what what like are you a middle school bully or something like do you did you
00:41:35.360not even think to like okay what are what are like famous right-wing video game creators okay
00:41:40.660we got five nights of freddy's guy i think he's got what seven kids he's got some in six i think
00:41:45.920it's seven it might be six or something i think he's a lot and he's not even listed on this list
00:41:50.340So the question is, why do you see so many game developers having kids when people like Hassan don't have kids?0.89
00:42:00.040And I think here we're going back to the soft Yankee phenomenon, which actually ties strongly into this whole entire conversation.0.97
00:42:09.580We point out in Japan, the group that seems to be higher fertility than the other groups is the soft Yankees.
00:42:17.000so this is a style that in the past would have been seen they dressed like very american like0.84
00:42:22.900rode around on like harley davidson and did their hair slicked back team troublemakers yeah a yankee
00:42:28.640character if you watch a lot of anime right and then as they got older they sort of toned it down
00:42:32.980a bit but they still had families and everything and they still wanted to you know because they
00:42:37.280were not taking life as hard as your typical japanese citizen does um whereas the typical
00:42:45.180For example, they were more likely to live in their hometowns closer to their families, which is a big contrast to someone who, say, moved from a more rural area to Tokyo, where it's a lot harder to have a large family.0.67
00:42:57.780Well, I don't think that that's the most important part.0.98
00:42:59.820The most important part is that your typical Japanese salaryman is living a life of extremely strict deontological rules, typically.1.00
00:43:14.500the point is is that they are living a life filled with very strict rules whereas yankee
00:43:21.120culture was in japan was built around rule breaking yeah f you to the rules i'm going to
00:43:27.480do things my way i'm going to do things the way that work best for some form of consequentialist
00:43:32.240outcome for me there was one of our fans that did an analysis of various mormon districts based on
00:43:39.260how religious they were and what he ended up filing was that the highest fertility districts
00:43:44.720were not the highest religiosity districts it was actually the middling religiosity districts that
00:43:50.980were the highest fertility and being extremely high religiosity as a mormon hit your fertility
00:43:55.780rates and so the question is is why do we see this phenomenon around strict deontological value set
00:44:03.160strict rule-based value sets and a failure to achieve the end that all of those rules were for
00:44:11.720which is to say if you ask me at least like what's the point of all of the rules in a book like the
00:44:19.580bible or in traditional cultures or in because there's a lot of rules that people just took away
00:44:24.540right they're like oh we don't need that rule i don't understand why it's there like a rule was
00:44:27.920put in place it solved a problem then you know the summer of love comes around and they're like
00:44:33.100well i just don't understand why we can't just sleep with everyone and then as somebody pointed
00:44:37.160out the decline in promiscuity that happened after the 70s wasn't because people rediscovered
00:44:42.900morality but it was because they immediately figured out why all those rules were there
00:44:47.540and it was called the aids crisis the point being is that a lot of these historic rules had
00:44:53.180a point to them but it's also important to remember that our perception today of what
00:44:59.580rules were in the past can sometimes be shaped by the urban monoculture, which lies to us around
00:45:06.780what rules were normalized in the past. That lies to us around what cultural practices were normal
00:45:12.040in the past to try to create a false framing of the past to put us in weaker positions. If you
00:45:17.760see our episode about the degeneracy of the past or our ancestors, we talk about how in many ways
00:45:24.520society has become dramatically more sexually conservative with some of the biggest being
00:45:30.360showers group showers no longer being a thing group showers even more extreme things like key parties
00:45:36.360key parties things where you go to a party and you'd like swap keys and you'd go home with
00:45:41.700whoever's key you had yeah there was for i think even just the fact that there was dating culture
00:45:46.960oh the whole donkey thing you were gonna say yeah well we don't i mean we do know that in some parts
00:45:51.620of latin america donkeys were definitely a thing we don't know if the tijuana and the literal circle0.98
00:45:55.360jerks wasn't that another thing you talked about jerks were very common for men i think through0.96
00:45:59.700like the 1920s through like the 1950s or 60s and when i say men i talk about young men like high0.95
00:46:04.900school men would often it was considered like something they did uh and you can read about
00:46:09.840this and like a lot of the literature of the period if you read older literature that it was
00:46:14.200a thing that was done and was considered normal and not gay i'm not saying bring back this stuff
00:46:20.180i'm just saying that if you thought that we moved from a society that was not degenerate to a0.51
00:46:25.920society that was degenerate you are believing a leftist lie about history and note here people
00:46:31.840can be like well rule 34 that must be new and no oh that's what i was thinking it's not i mean if
00:46:38.400you go back to the 1920s you have tijuana bibles yeah being sold widely please if you go back to
00:46:44.380the 1700s you have people making stuff of marie antoinette and her ladies-in-waiting don't even
00:46:49.980yeah yeah but the tijuana bibles were basically your first cartoon a year later you have your
00:46:55.440first widely distributed r34 for people who aren't familiar with tijuana bibles you'd like go to your
00:47:00.000local drugstore and you'd buy sort of under the table they had books that were rule 34 art of the
00:47:07.040cartoons of the 1920s 1930s 1940s and these ended up transitioning into designs and then they died
00:47:14.400out with the internet because there was alternate things that existed and and you see this you know
00:47:19.380you go all the way back people are like well okay this this didn't exist in in in history and it's
00:47:26.720like well i mean of course you have a james joyce wasn't it james joyce yeah james joyce james joyce
00:47:32.000and his like fart fetish stuff that he would write so like he's high society right where you go back
00:47:37.840to ancient greece and oh my god like the moment you invent a theological pantheon all of a sudden0.95
00:47:44.240everyone's having sex with each other in the weirdest possible ways and animals and whatever
00:47:49.640right and then fortunately a superior culture came around and cleaned up a lot of that was like no
00:47:55.860like let's not include the animals in this stuff but the point i'm making here is that
00:48:02.860these people who created these very strict rules gamers don't have these as much gamers take life
00:48:10.040a lot less rigidly because they're like look i'm gonna chill out at the end of the day i'm gonna
00:48:15.720have like an hour of me time right that isn't that isn't for trying to move human civilization
00:48:21.420forwards that isn't for trying to be a good person that isn't for my family that isn't for
00:48:28.740and that this ability to be relaxed about part of your life allows you to because think about
00:48:37.260when you if you're here saying pragmata is not core right functionally how is it different if
00:48:43.160i'm in my room and i'm playing pragmata which i'm playing the game it's okay i am fathering
00:48:50.500a fake child while i have a real children downstairs how is that not as ghoulish as0.98
00:48:59.920masturbating to a fake woman when i have a real wife in the other room that's a really good0.99
00:49:07.160point yeah that is that is obviously as ghoulish right and i and then people can be like well okay0.97
00:49:16.500well i only play games where i go around murdering fake people and i'm like how is that any better
00:49:23.440okay you're instead of playing with your kids murdering fake people in a box all right i think
00:49:32.400we need to admit to ourselves when something is sinful all right like this is i think the greatest
00:49:38.220sin is to pretend that something is that is that is clearly very sinful isn't sinful or is some
00:49:45.340different category of sin than the types of sin that other people are making yeah the final thing
00:49:50.060to talk about was pragmata unless you had any comments on what i'm talking about here simone
00:49:53.040no i just really do appreciate however the fact that you're bringing up this misnomer that somehow
00:50:00.900now gamers are incels when they're they're actually just normal people
00:50:04.780you know the people who are like i'll never play video like clearly there's some video game that
00:50:12.000would likely be fun for most people and so if you're out there fastidiously not playing video
00:50:16.720games it's because you're living by some strict deontological rule set hasan is living by one of
00:50:22.400those rule sets and that's why he has a girlfriend who says she'll never breed with him because she
00:50:26.340she doesn't want kids and so his life ends with him his line ends with him he is a genetic dead
00:50:32.280end and if you are having sex with someone without reproducing being the point of it you know as1.00
00:50:38.800leaflet says the the way to have kids the board's control is for pussies if you are having sex with0.99
00:50:45.000somebody without that being the end goal you're just treating your partner as an oni hole right0.99
00:50:52.220as a sex toy that that's that's the the end of it right and i'm i'm sorry if that hurts some0.97
00:50:57.600people's feelings to hear but that's the reality of it you have reduced your partner to a level of0.75
00:51:04.020degeneracy worse than anything you will find online right because the stuff you find online0.98
00:51:10.900is fictional you have reduced a real human being to a sex toy which is disgusting that is all they0.97
00:51:20.080are was in your life if you are not having reproductive sex yeah and i know that like0.93
00:51:25.400i'm sorry that that got a little spicy there but it's it's the reality and and it's sad to think0.99
00:51:32.640of hassan furiously masturbating himself inside of this woman who he presumably has some affection0.95
00:51:39.540for instead of doing what's meaningful with his life because he believes he has followed all the0.98
00:51:45.660deontological rules or at least enough of them so he doesn't need to actually sacrifice for the
00:51:50.320future and have kids which is the problem that many deontologists also on the right do they go
00:51:54.600well i'm following enough of the important rules i don't actually need to do the really hard stuff
00:52:00.020which is go out there and talk to women right you know that's the really hard part right they're
00:52:04.880like oh well it the bible doesn't you know say it's sinful to close myself in my house and not
00:52:10.220talk to women so i'm not gonna but all of those other rules in the bible assume that you're doing
00:52:15.140that anyway right like all of those other rules was was to achieve this outcome for you which was
00:52:19.880a a married household with lots of kids that were raised in a way that made them
00:52:24.800effectatious in the future the rules weren't to like with you okay or or make your life
00:52:31.460arbitrarily hard it was to guide you in the right direction and when you overly follow like this
00:52:40.180this and this you can forget oh but the really hard thing i need to motivate myself to do today
00:52:45.120day is talk to a girl now the final point were there people online and i had prepared a bunch
00:52:51.220of like quotes that people had had about the game and getting mad about it getting mad about its
00:52:55.040pronatalist message people saying oh people are telling on themselves by finding her hot or
00:52:59.920whatever that leftists are evil and evil can't see good i mean is this really true or is this
00:53:07.440just us trying to make ourselves feel good as people on the right like it feels good to say
00:53:13.080leftists can't see that this is actually a game about being a dad and i think that there is some
00:53:20.120truths to this there are some leftists who are so cooked that they reflexively can't help but see a
00:53:29.120child and see a sexual object because that is the only way they relate to anything any media any
00:53:34.740well then there's a reminder that most people now are well probably most i need to check but most
00:53:42.360are growing up without exposure to younger siblings certainly not prolonged exposure so
00:53:47.200they kind of don't know how to contextualize young girls differently if they're not aside from being
00:53:51.480a kid ever around young girls you know as an older sibling or something that makes sense
00:53:56.540but i think that most of the leftist anger around the game is downstream of three alternate reactions
00:54:06.120and they're just trying to hide the reactions in a way that they can use to attack their political
00:54:13.920opponents and i think it's important that we don't accidentally do the same because if we do
00:54:19.020if we don't actually attempt to model our political opponents then we cannot predict them and if we
00:54:24.840cannot predict them we cannot fight them as well the reason i'm able to do something like bait a
00:54:30.300telemundo reporter into a trap is because i understand her perspective and i can predict her
00:54:36.480she doesn't understand my perspective and therefore cannot predict me and so falls in that
00:54:42.540trap so where are they going with this how do they see it so the first thing is they don't like
00:54:48.700their political opponents being happy they see men and gamers and men who enjoy sexual things
00:54:55.300as their opponents and this is why they remove sexual things from video games because they want
00:54:59.980make you a straight man sad that's that's really it they want you to have less pleasure they don't
00:55:05.800do it and this this is where they align and this is why so much of the on like the the like new
00:55:11.860right or the online right got and cut its teeth fighting for the de-censorship of sexy female
00:55:20.000characters in games and we are intentionally hobbling ourselves if we don't do that right
00:55:26.580because we say oh i the left but for reasons i won't get down to here i'm actually going to talk
00:55:33.940about this with leaflet the left started to hate beauty and they thought they both hate beauty and
00:55:39.960they hate especially beautiful women because beautiful women make straight white men happy
00:55:44.640especially beautiful white women so let's remove all of those from video games and now we can put0.99
00:55:50.700those back in our games and and please gamers and there's going to be a part of the faction says0.99
00:55:55.000don't put beautiful women in games because that's sinful and it's like off right like absolutely you1.00
00:56:00.320are removing one of our weapons for no reason when it's an easy fight for us to win yes make0.99
00:56:07.160games beautiful again right so one is for the same reason they want to make women in games ugly they
00:56:12.540just don't want you to be happy they see people being happy with a young girl and taking on a
00:56:16.940father role for her and they go well i don't like i don't like these people are happy let's see if
00:56:21.400can make some big stink and make studios not make games like this anymore okay okay that's what all0.77
00:56:27.580right the next reason the next reason is that they see men masturbating this emotional pathway
00:56:38.500of being a father and they are afraid that men will realize that they want to be fathers in the0.99
00:56:46.420same way that some idiots are afraid that like, if men see corn, they're going to realize they1.00
00:56:55.360want to have sex. And so we will not let them see corn. And it's like, well, most men know they1.00
00:57:01.280want to have sex. Okay. I'm sorry. That's like, it's pretty hard coded in our biology and it's0.91
00:57:07.420pretty hard coded in our biology because those of us who didn't do it didn't have surviving
00:57:11.700offspring and most men who haven't been brainwashed by our culture know that they want kids now and
00:57:17.760you even see this in statistic men want kids significantly more than women today but it is
00:57:21.800true that a lot of men were brainwashed in our culture today so much so that they literally
00:57:26.120thought i don't actually want kids and so they see this context and it does help break that
00:57:31.480brainwashing for some men like oh it is pleasurable to raise children and i have said before on the
00:57:37.780show people have taken this as some sort of like weird self-owned or something like this where i
00:57:42.120said it is like if i'm contrasting the pleasure i get from like blocking out you know 30 minutes
00:57:48.460to an hour to have sex versus 30 minutes to an hour playing with the kids it's like not even
00:57:53.280close playing with the kids feels much better than sex does i'm actually curious if if there
00:57:57.940are any parents of kids who would disagree let us know in the comments like i i haven't encountered
00:58:04.360to anyone who feels differently but I'm curious they must be out there apparently yeah yeah people
00:58:13.140think like I'm owning myself by saying that or something like that and it's like no like clearly
00:58:19.300as an adult you you get to a point where you are having sex for kids you're like well I want more
00:58:27.200of these things like I should schedule some time to make more of them and a lot of people contextualize
00:58:33.600this very badly they're like oh well this means you know the person's wife isn't gratifying him
00:58:40.320enough or isn't going far enough out it's like no like when you get to like five in kids and
00:58:45.040note here i'm not talking about one or two kids like when i had one or two kids i still you know
00:58:50.060it's about even maybe sex is a bit better right but when you've got five kids playing with five
00:58:55.320kids just feels quite better and it's a party it's more than just playing better in a way that
00:59:01.100doesn't have any negatives to it you know afterwards you don't feel guilty but you don't
00:59:06.800feel it's it's like perfect clean pleasure right like there there's no negative externalities to
00:59:14.200taking some time to play with the kids you you can for example if you're seeking pleasure
00:59:19.120you can do that for god like it's not a sin to play with your kids right and you can get a lot
00:59:24.400of pleasure from that. Right. So I'm sorry. I'm the reason I'm going into all of this is I think
00:59:31.500that a lot of men don't realize how fun this is going to be. And so they see this and they go,
00:59:36.280Oh, like, this is a lot of fun. Also, I'd say for guys, don't let your experience with babies mess
00:59:43.480up how much you think you're going to like kids. Most guys don't really like babies. There are a
00:59:48.940few that do but like we're not really designed to be a primary caregiver at that stage of a human's
00:59:56.100life for obvious reasons we can't feed them if you were unaware so there's a reason they are
01:00:02.940typically with the mothers in an evolutionary context yeah key point being evolutionary context
01:00:09.760so yeah the third reason is that they genuinely do not like the idea that people may have kids
01:00:21.260as a result of this and that i think is probably the biggest is they think oh no our messaging is
01:00:33.800falling apart both in regards to kids and in regards to men wanting a stable marriage and
01:00:39.680family and i mean like genuinely wanting it wanting it more than playing a game where you
01:00:45.780walk around shooting people right like a guy no imagine you're a guy you've played a few games
01:00:50.840recently you go which game did i enjoy the most the one where i was being a dad or the one where
01:00:55.140i was walking around shooting people well i mean as a man i do like shooting people of course and
01:01:00.160i wish i could do that more in the real world but i can't right there's negative externalities to
01:01:06.020that but there isn't negative externalities from having a kid and i might have enjoyed that game
01:01:09.500a bit more than the others so i should give it a try so i also think the the propaganda is pretty
01:01:13.800good here so final thoughts simone well i didn't realize people were actively choosing to play this
01:01:20.340game because they wanted to play a parenting simulator game and i wish people discussed that
01:01:27.800more because i had no idea i thought people were feeling like they were being psyoped into being
01:01:32.600a parent aspirational parents when they just wanted literally the only thing anyone's been
01:01:39.660talking about since the demo first showcase for that's a really good sign though if all these
01:01:43.820people want to play a parent simulator game isn't that cool isn't that awesome doesn't that mean
01:01:48.860people actually really do like the idea of becoming parents and that maybe in the future
01:01:54.120people will start to just overcome the stated barriers to parenthood like i'm not prepared
01:02:00.460and also as a final point here like to note for people who are like oh don't you understand that
01:02:07.660like corn ends up exaggerating all of the parts of procreation that you know to unrealistic
01:02:15.880standards people made that point with their criticisms of this as well they're like well
01:02:20.000you're not dealing with the spitting and the screaming and the diapers and the you know all
01:02:23.560that well yeah and that's that's the point i want to make i want to make you you cannot criticize
01:02:27.780corn for being unrealistic and over the top and super normal stimuli this is a stimuli that is
01:02:34.840like bigger and better than anything that would exist in the real world and then say this game
01:02:39.540stimulating another masturbating another parental instinct pathway a pathway about having children
01:02:46.460isn't doing the exact same thing it's almost cartoonish in a way you know as somebody who
01:02:52.220has a lot of experience around young kids the way that this character acts is a caricature of an
01:03:00.720over-the-top way a kid her age would act it's not the way children her age actually i'm not talking
01:03:07.600about oh you're not dealing with the spitting you're not dealing with the pooping in the pants0.52
01:03:11.020you're not dealing with a this kid's older than that a kid of this age is pooping in their pants
01:03:14.800there's like serious developmental problems or spitting or having breakdowns our kid who's
01:03:19.440closest to this age doesn't do any of that anymore but even with all of that being the case
01:03:25.160she still acts in a way that is completely super normal and not the way children actually act
01:03:31.740it's it's to a kid whatever a girl doing the like sexy girl thing you know like oh i'm so hot i'm1.00
01:03:43.820you know like when when they're trying to look like what they think a sexy girl looks like
01:03:47.940it's doing that but for what people think the cutest most adorable kid ever would do and and
01:03:54.980here i will note that the face again does seem a little it okay i was trying to age i'll see if i
01:04:04.680can find this age up our daughter because i like aging up our daughters to see oh what are they
01:04:09.380gonna look like when they're 20 what are they gonna look like when they're 30 you know etc
01:04:11.960and one of them messed up and it moved her face to the age of 20 but it didn't move the rest of
01:04:17.440her body to the age of 20 oh gross that image is the closest image i've seen to the pragmata
01:04:22.140character yeah you know what that makes sense i'm sorry i know this isn't a popular opinion
01:04:29.140on the right but they they did kind of mess up her face but again it's because they're going
01:04:34.780with the most cutesy super normal stimuli for people who may not have a super good grasp of
01:04:39.840what kids of this age range look like but by the way using ai to age up your kids is underrated i
01:04:45.140I mean, studies have shown that when you contextualize yourself in the future or when you're primed by the researchers looking at your behavior to think about your future self or think as your future self or look at pictures of your future self, you tend to make more responsible decisions about your long term life.
01:05:02.660You know, you don't choose the easy, indulgent thing now, you choose the thing better for the future.
01:05:07.420And one thing that we do when we make these aged up photos of our kids is show them, hey, this could be you in the future.
01:05:14.080this is you in the dinosaur lab making your dinosaur this is you in front of your helicopter
01:05:18.760whatever like whatever they're into and it can i think it has been motivating for them to do the
01:05:24.540right thing or to focus on making themselves better when otherwise they would not be interested
01:05:30.500because what's the payoff for them but it's pretty cool when they can see who they could be
01:05:34.520yeah anyway love you to death simone the wild take on this one i think for people
01:05:42.300who have been waiting for us to just dunk on leftists, which I don't think is helpful to do.
01:05:46.860I think we need to make sure that we understand where they're really coming from and that we
01:05:52.040understand and properly categorize the stimuli that exist in our environment and not rely on
01:05:57.700stereotypes as to what those stimuli are or what they represent. Fair enough.
01:06:06.260And by the way, note here, somebody's like, there's no such thing as
01:06:10.080corn that's as wholesome as something like pragmata like i've literally posted one before it's like
01:06:16.060the hentai leak on the stream it's called like when i returned to my hometown my childhood friend
01:06:21.240was broken oh yeah like the actual hentai yeah by the way no it doesn't have like it does a weird
01:06:29.720thing where it just tells a really wholesome story and then all of the actual like inappropriate
01:06:35.360scenes are after the story is over but take place throughout the story so you can read the story
01:06:41.020without accidentally hitting any of the inappropriate scenes um but the point is it's a
01:06:46.320it's a actually fairly popular hentai about meeting a childhood friend who's going through
01:06:52.240emotional trauma helping them overcome it getting married and having kids and the point i'm making
01:06:57.840here here is not everything out there is degenerate right the negatives of this sort of material is
01:07:04.060the effect it has on your life your perception of women or men and your perception of reality
01:07:10.220and it is so ubiquitous in the world we live in it is up to you to engage with this sort of content
01:07:18.180in a healthy way it is a self-control that is going to be required of you and of the next
01:07:24.500generation or we are going to die out as a species and we need to be very careful to not
01:07:30.760get one-shotted because we see the instinct to have sex and we say this is always dangerous
01:07:37.720always and everywhere when that is not the case and we see the instinct to play with our children
01:07:42.480and we say this is always healthy always and everywhere and it could never come in one-shot
01:07:47.980me in some way being honest and clear-headed about each of these instincts and how they can be
01:07:53.960manipulated or engaged with in ways that are healthy or unhealthy is critical if your line
01:08:02.300is going to survive. And building up the self-control to do that is critical if your
01:08:07.600line is going to survive. The distinction here and the criticality of this distinction is much
01:08:12.500easier to see in erotic material for women than it is for men. Women, clearly, like monster effort0.99
01:08:17.520books, are not good for a woman's brain and how she perceives men and how she perceives society.0.95
01:08:22.080But that isn't to say all romance books that a woman could read that are basically stimulating the same pathways are not going to get her to end up fantasizing about a positive and healthy relationship with a man.0.75
01:08:34.760It is that she chooses the degenerate option that ends up scrambling her brain.
01:08:40.580It is that she chooses to perceive things like that that ends up scrambling her brain.
01:08:44.980It is not the very essence of books about romance.
01:08:48.960I mean, what about the girl who grows up reading the books about the heroic knight with positive qualities who saves the woman?
01:08:57.660That is the same genre as the monster effer genre.
01:09:01.400Fundamentally, it's hitting the same pathways.
01:09:03.420It's just doing it in a positive contextualization.
01:09:06.460And for the guys who say, well, when degeneracy is an option, I just can't help but choose it.
01:09:32.900And I don't need to manipulate society or change society in a way that's going to lead to children getting graped to protect weak genetic dead ends like you.0.95
01:09:42.720Like, there is actually healthy material out there.
01:09:47.220it's that you are choosing something to generate
01:09:51.960there you go it's all about choices all right love you simone i love you too
01:09:59.900all right we just made it back from dc and for anyone who's still watching at this point in the
01:10:10.520video i will be streaming with leaflet tonight at 9 p.m est let's see if i stay up all night again
01:10:17.840so i'll probably be streaming tomorrow morning too depending that's what happened saturday morning
01:10:22.140yet it's a 10 hour stream last time so we'll see what ends up happening this time
01:10:26.680i made the the horrible mistake of thinking oh i'm hopping on leaflet to talk with her for a few
01:10:32.840hours because you know that's the longest a video could possibly go so i start drinking at the
01:10:38.200beginning of our conversation not even realizing how late it had gotten or how long we've been
01:10:44.160talking right no it was so so cool though i think a lot of people enjoyed it yeah yeah i think this
01:10:50.740one will do well so well well i mean i hope it does well for her build up we'll be doing this
01:10:56.480every other friday by the way if you if you miss this one or at least that's a plan you know we'll
01:11:00.200see maybe you know something happens some drama happens yeah well and it doesn't end up working
01:11:06.340out anything you want to say you know no oh my god hold on sorry octane's been no that's a mistake