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- September 16, 2025
Evidence of Trans Community's Involvement in Charlie Kirk Killing
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So in Steam group that was titled Read This If You're Gay,
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which was like for like memes and stuff.
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Oh, so is that what that one bullet engraving was?
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If you're reading this, you are gay.
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Oh yeah, he mentioned the Steam group in the bullet.
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I hadn't even noticed that.
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If you're reading this, you are gay, lol.
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Something like that.
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They're described as a radical far left trans individual
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posted, quote, you guys, I have something big,
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big in all caps, coming soon.
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Just be sure to check the news.
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You'll know it when you see it, end quote.
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Immediately after the shooting, they quote tweeted
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that other quote saying something big's about to happen
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saying, well, that's that.
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So was Sky Valadez, trans as well,
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released a song a few months before this
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titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31.
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And then they released a song titled
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Charlie Kirk's death isn't enough for me.
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We'll be going over the individual who said
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September 10th is going to be a very interesting day.
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And then I plead the fifth.
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The person who said, Charlie Kirk doesn't know
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what's going to happen tomorrow.
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The person who said, wouldn't it be funny
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if someone shot Charlie Kirk on September 10th?
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If it is true that a large number of trans individuals
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were aware of this attack before it happened,
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that's something we need to introduce
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into the public conversation.
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This wouldn't be the first trans murder cult
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that we've talked about on this show.
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Look at the Zizians.
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But if trans murder cults are becoming a thing,
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that's something we need to be talking about.
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Would you like to know more?
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Hello, Simone.
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I'm excited to be here with you today.
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Today, we are going to be talking about
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a number of things related to the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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I'm not excited about the assassination.
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I already had the day where I said,
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I'm not excited to be here with you today
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because we were talking about that specifically.
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And that's not what we're talking about today.
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Today, we're going to talk about a few areas.
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One, we are going to be talking about
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a couple of convergent phenomenons
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that are worth unpacking,
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which is the huge array of people
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who with their public accounts
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are going out and saying,
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I am glad that this happened.
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I am glad that this person was killed
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because of their, you know, very,
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if you look at his actual beliefs,
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instead of like the random out of context quotes
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that you'll get from leftists,
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he's just boomer conservative.
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He's not new, right?
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But he's very generic boomer conservative.
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And these people are saying-
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No, I would say he's even more open than that.
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Or maybe hippie boomer conservative, yeah.
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Hippie boomer conservative, yeah.
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He is, if you're like,
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I think people with those beliefs should be killed
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because that's what you're saying.
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Then you'd think most centrists in America
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who are Christian should be killed, basically.
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Yeah.
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And the number of people,
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like we're going to go over a number of teachers
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who have done this,
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a number of people who make video games
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and like run studios.
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We're going to go over people
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in the medical field who have done this.
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And two things are interesting.
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One is that they feel that it's okay
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to say something like,
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I think mainstream conservatives should be killed
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without realizing that that's what they're-
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I mean, because they've been convinced
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that mainstream conservatives are extremists
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when they hold positions
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that most Americans have hold
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for the past 50 years.
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Yeah.
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You know, they one,
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feel safe going out and doing this, right?
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And by the way,
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if you want to do something about this,
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don't complain to HR.
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And as McGold said,
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don't go to the top of your company.
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Go to OSHA and say you don't feel safe
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because then the government has to do something.
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I love that advice.
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Yeah.
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And the CEO is very likely to respond
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if a company is getting a lot of OSHA complaints
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and it can be done anonymously.
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So you just say,
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this person is saying
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that they want to kill mainstream conservatives, right?
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Or they think this is a good thing, right?
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And I don't feel safe in this environment
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and that will-
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But the other thing that's interesting
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is that people are even addressing this.
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Like people are responding to this.
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Like it feels like these people
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wouldn't have been fired,
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you know, three years ago
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or something like that.
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So we are now seeing a shift.
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Like, it's like,
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oh, well, this is just like you guys
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where you said,
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you know, trans people
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are not a disenfranchised group
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and in fact are a group in power
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because they are a group
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you are not allowed to criticize
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or you could be fired.
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Like if you misgender them,
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you could be fired.
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And I'm like,
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there's a big difference
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for being fired
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for misgendering somebody
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and celebrating
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that somebody was shot
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in front of their children
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and saying that
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that should happen again
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in the future.
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Like those are two categories
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of what is being
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mildly inconvenienced
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and the other is
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demanding genocide.
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Well, and egging on
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a complete degradation
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or end to public civility
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and safety in order
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and law following.
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But I also want to point out here,
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and this is also really important,
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is the people who are like,
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well, then you should just
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never say that anyone,
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no matter what they're doing,
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should be punished
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in a way that is outside
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of the legal system.
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Like you are just out
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against extrajudicial killings.
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I'm absolutely not
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because I think if we look
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at where society is going
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right now,
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eventually we may need
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to rise up, right?
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Like we may need
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to fight against this system
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if it becomes too dictatorial,
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if it becomes too controlling.
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That may happen
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within our lifetimes
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and that involves
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extrajudicial killings, right?
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So these people who think
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that they've just found
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this safe position of,
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oh, well, just never,
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ever, ever rise up.
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Just never, ever, ever revolt.
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Well, then what happens, right?
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Like you need to be like,
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no, the problem
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is not the extrajudicial
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killing thing.
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It's the extrajudicial killing
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for like mainstream
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normal beliefs.
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That is psychotic,
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especially beliefs
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that aren't really hurting anyone.
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When we can get to,
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we got to that
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in the last episode
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where people will be like,
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oh, we had all these beliefs
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that hurt people.
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No, we didn't.
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It's very boomer
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conservative stuff.
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But anyway,
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another thing I want to get to,
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which is what we're going
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to start with here,
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because I found this
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really fascinating,
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is in the last episode,
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I made the prediction
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that I suspected
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this person was going
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to be trans
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or have ties
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to the trans community,
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right?
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Like this whiter
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sort of trans community thing.
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Comes out who this guy is,
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everyone is saying,
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Malcolm, you miscalled it.
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Like, I don't like that
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you get ahead of your skis
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on this stuff.
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And I'm like, no, no, no,
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you have to get ahead
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of your skis.
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If you have a worldview,
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right?
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And this worldview
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cannot predict future events,
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right?
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Like it's a non-predictive worldview.
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It cannot give you insight
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into why a country
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is doing something
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or what a country
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is going to do next
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or what a movement
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is going to do next
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or what type of person
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is going to do X.
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You do not have
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a useful worldview.
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Like that worldview
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remains untested.
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And so I made a prediction
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that one group,
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a very rare group
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in the U.S.,
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it makes up like 1.5%
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of the U.S. population
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was going to be involved in this.
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Since the shooting
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has happened,
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some very interesting
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things have happened
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and people have done
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more researching.
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Obviously, the big one is,
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but I actually think
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that this might be
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less important,
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is that this person,
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the person who they
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were in a relationship with
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and were living with
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turned out to be
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a trans person.
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So do we have proof
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that they're in a relationship?
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Yes, the police have confirmed
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they were in a relationship.
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Whoa.
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So this isn't like
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random speculation anymore.
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This is, I think it was like
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the governor of Utah
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specifically confirmed this.
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So we'll get to that.
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I actually think
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that that person,
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so a lot of people
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have kept trying to be like,
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oh, here's this trans person online
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that seemed to have knowledge
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of the shooting
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before it happened.
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This is this person's partner,
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romantic partner account.
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And then as we dig deeper,
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it turns out,
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no, they were actually
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a different trans person
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and not this person's partner.
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So what we are finding
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is it appears
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that there were,
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in addition to this person's partners,
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three trans individuals
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and no one who wasn't
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a trans individual
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who knew about this shooting
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before it happened.
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And a lot of them-
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I thought a lot of people
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were saying
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because the roommate,
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alleged partner,
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was complicit in turning in-
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The roommate was not complicit
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in turning in.
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Tyler Robinson.
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The dad turned them in,
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but the roommate has helped
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give information to police
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and has been very cooperative
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with police.
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So my actual wider read
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that I can give a skip to
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ahead of times
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is I think that the person's
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girlfriend slash boyfriend,
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because they started dating
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before they were transitioning
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and now they're trans-
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Anyway,
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girlfriend slash boyfriend,
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I think that they may have
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actually not had anything
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to do with it
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and that other trans people
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did have something to do with it,
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but the girlfriend slash boyfriend
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was the connection
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between the assassin
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and the wider Utah trans community
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that was involved in this.
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So let's get into
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the evidence for this
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because a lot of people
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have been mixing up
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parts of the evidence
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in a way that leads people
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to be like,
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oh, this has been debunked
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when it hasn't been debunked.
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So let's start with
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the Twitter account
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Najara Galzan,
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who goes by Omar.
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So this individual
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had tweeted
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leading up to the rally,
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Charlie Kirk is coming
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to my college tomorrow.
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I really hope someone
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evaporates him literally.
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Let's just say something big
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will happen tomorrow.
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Now, the problem
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with these particular tweets
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is they are real
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and they are from
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a trans individual's account,
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but they have been paired
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with a picture
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of an individual,
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a different trans individual
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who is not
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this Omar character
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who just happens to be
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like a lawyer
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in San Francisco
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or something like that.
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And Omar had,
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it wasn't done maliciously.
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Note, Omar,
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the Omar account
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had retweeted
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one of their,
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this other trans individual's images.
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So it was stuck
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in like the Google Archive data
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of what the individual,
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like of a picture
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associated with the account.
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And so people were like,
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oh, this is,
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this is proof.
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So no,
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but it appears
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that somebody did know,
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right?
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Like that,
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that I don't get much.
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I hope that somebody
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evaporates him.
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Let's just say something big
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will happen tomorrow.
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Right?
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And this,
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let's just say something big
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will happen tomorrow.
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We said in response
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to their tweet,
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Charlie Kirk is coming
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to my college tomorrow.
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I really hope somebody
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evaporates him literally.
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So that indicates
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foreknowledge
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of what was going to happen.
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And note here,
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I'm saying this is actually
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pretty big,
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that I was able to call
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that a like 1% population
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was going to be involved
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in this.
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And Charlie Kirk,
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and you could be like,
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well,
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that's who Charlie Kirk attacked.
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Charlie Kirk doesn't talk about it.
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Like Charlie Kirk is actually
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much more focused
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on other communities,
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like the general gay community,
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for example,
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than the trans community
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or,
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you know,
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on pro-right,
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pro-life advocacy groups
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and stuff like that.
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This was a minority community.
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And I note here
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that this comes in relation
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to something I've noted
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in the 90s.
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In the 90s,
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when conservatives
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would go out
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and actually murder progressives,
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which they did occasionally
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with bombings
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and stuff like that,
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it wasn't over
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like a variety of topics.
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It like,
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wasn't the environmentalists.
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It was always abortion,
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wasn't it?
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Always abortion.
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Always abortion.
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That was the one thing
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that got you murdered.
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And I understand
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how they justified it
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to themselves.
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They were saying,
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well,
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this person is murdering people,
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therefore I have the right
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to murder them.
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With the trans community,
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they believe that
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having different beliefs
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in them is literally
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murdering trans community members,
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which is,
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I see,
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I can see.
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That's the argument made.
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But it's not true.
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Yeah,
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yeah.
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I mean,
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it's widely disproven
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that trans people
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who are blocked
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from undergoing transition
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end their lives.
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But that's still
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the argument made.
00:11:06.500
That's still the belief held
00:11:07.600
that not transitioning
00:11:08.880
is dead.
00:11:09.540
It's not true.
00:11:10.360
Like,
00:11:10.520
in the community,
00:11:11.240
it's a belief that it's true.
00:11:11.980
But it's like,
00:11:12.680
the UK banned puberty blockers
00:11:14.320
and within the community,
00:11:15.740
unaliving rates
00:11:16.280
haven't gone up,
00:11:16.880
right?
00:11:17.080
Like,
00:11:17.320
we know that.
00:11:17.560
Yeah,
00:11:17.780
but I mean,
00:11:18.120
remember the counter argument
00:11:20.060
to conservatives,
00:11:22.720
Christians,
00:11:23.980
killing people,
00:11:24.900
going to abortion clinics
00:11:26.180
was,
00:11:27.440
yeah,
00:11:27.600
but it's not true
00:11:28.480
that they're alive,
00:11:29.880
right?
00:11:30.160
Right.
00:11:30.560
So,
00:11:30.940
I'm just saying,
00:11:32.320
like,
00:11:32.600
people have different,
00:11:33.580
very different skewed views
00:11:34.840
of the world
00:11:35.400
and,
00:11:36.540
yeah,
00:11:36.840
that's how it always seems to be.
00:11:37.680
But this is why
00:11:39.300
when somebody was killed,
00:11:40.520
I was like,
00:11:41.020
okay,
00:11:41.300
a feminist didn't do this
00:11:42.520
because feminists
00:11:43.140
don't go out
00:11:43.700
and murder people
00:11:44.360
like this,
00:11:44.880
right?
00:11:45.480
I was like,
00:11:46.020
a gay person
00:11:46.940
was unlikely to do this
00:11:47.820
because,
00:11:48.100
like,
00:11:48.800
I can't think of the last,
00:11:50.060
you know,
00:11:50.260
just generically gay person
00:11:51.720
who killed people
00:11:52.340
for being anti-gay.
00:11:53.400
I don't think that's happened
00:11:54.260
in,
00:11:54.520
like,
00:11:54.560
a decade.
00:11:55.560
I don't,
00:11:55.800
I,
00:11:56.060
that might not have happened
00:11:56.860
ever,
00:11:57.440
now that I think about it.
00:11:58.680
I mean,
00:11:59.100
it must have happened somewhere
00:12:00.000
but it's just,
00:12:00.740
like,
00:12:00.800
not a common thing.
00:12:01.820
It's,
00:12:02.020
it's not a,
00:12:02.540
you know,
00:12:03.140
but with this community
00:12:04.800
we see this regularly
00:12:05.580
and you can go to our video
00:12:06.320
My Gender Identity is Murder
00:12:07.420
where we talk about this.
00:12:08.960
Somebody on Twitter
00:12:09.700
was,
00:12:10.060
like,
00:12:10.760
emailing us
00:12:11.320
to try to be,
00:12:12.020
like,
00:12:12.220
like,
00:12:12.440
retweeting all of our things
00:12:13.600
being,
00:12:13.900
like,
00:12:13.960
trans people do not
00:12:14.900
mass murder
00:12:15.400
at a higher rate
00:12:16.040
than other communities
00:12:16.740
and we,
00:12:17.560
like,
00:12:17.700
on that episode
00:12:18.420
go over the math,
00:12:19.560
like,
00:12:19.800
in detail
00:12:20.440
and they're,
00:12:21.180
like,
00:12:21.260
no,
00:12:21.600
Grok agrees with me
00:12:22.460
and it's,
00:12:22.680
like,
00:12:23.160
Grok was pulling
00:12:23.960
from PolitiFact,
00:12:24.980
like,
00:12:25.480
a well-known,
00:12:26.500
like,
00:12:26.880
left-wing grift organization
00:12:28.480
that regularly
00:12:29.220
manipulates data,
00:12:30.240
like,
00:12:30.820
it said,
00:12:31.480
I'm pulling from PolitiFact.
00:12:32.680
Why don't you just
00:12:33.300
run the numbers yourself?
00:12:34.600
It's easy to do the math.
00:12:36.500
Well,
00:12:36.620
that's because
00:12:37.180
the prompt to Grok
00:12:39.680
was,
00:12:40.520
disprove these liars.
00:12:43.020
Oh,
00:12:43.220
that's what it was?
00:12:43.920
The only,
00:12:44.500
yeah,
00:12:44.780
the only answer
00:12:45.760
that Grok could give
00:12:47.080
was one
00:12:47.800
that dis,
00:12:48.700
that disagreed
00:12:50.120
with our argument.
00:12:51.280
AI psychosis
00:12:52.480
right there.
00:12:53.420
So just
00:12:53.900
present evidence
00:12:55.400
that they're wrong
00:12:56.420
was the prompt.
00:12:57.560
I'm right,
00:12:58.100
yes.
00:12:58.620
Yeah.
00:12:59.460
I actually used Grok
00:13:00.700
for the research
00:13:01.980
on that episode.
00:13:02.680
I was like,
00:13:03.040
pull up the number
00:13:03.760
of,
00:13:04.260
you know,
00:13:04.860
trans mass shooters,
00:13:06.300
what's the percentage
00:13:07.340
in the population?
00:13:08.140
But I think most,
00:13:09.040
or at least a lot
00:13:09.880
of people using AI
00:13:11.080
use it for confirmation bias.
00:13:12.980
They don't use it
00:13:13.420
for information finding.
00:13:15.140
Yeah.
00:13:16.860
Okay,
00:13:17.380
so to go over
00:13:18.020
some other tweets here
00:13:18.920
that I think are interesting.
00:13:20.220
Skylar Webster
00:13:21.120
at Fuji
00:13:22.380
Incel
00:13:23.600
posts five days
00:13:24.900
before September 10th
00:13:25.920
assassination.
00:13:27.200
They were a far,
00:13:28.780
they're described
00:13:29.420
as a radical
00:13:29.960
far left trans individual
00:13:31.040
from the University
00:13:31.640
of Washington
00:13:32.120
high school student
00:13:33.060
posted,
00:13:34.320
you guys,
00:13:35.060
I have something big,
00:13:36.120
big in all caps
00:13:36.920
coming soon.
00:13:38.260
Just be sure
00:13:38.820
to check the news.
00:13:39.880
You'll know it
00:13:40.300
when you see it.
00:13:41.220
In quote.
00:13:42.320
Immediately after
00:13:43.300
the shooting,
00:13:44.400
they quote tweeted
00:13:45.560
that other quote
00:13:46.800
saying something big
00:13:48.240
is about to happen
00:13:49.040
saying,
00:13:50.600
well,
00:13:50.900
that's that.
00:13:52.260
Another one
00:13:52.900
bites the dust
00:13:54.080
or another chud
00:13:54.840
bites the tusks
00:13:55.660
followed by a
00:13:56.900
celebratory message.
00:13:57.700
So they were
00:13:58.160
re quote tweeting
00:13:59.680
their own tweet
00:14:01.640
saying something's
00:14:02.840
about to happen.
00:14:04.520
Man,
00:14:05.140
when you're like
00:14:05.700
complicit in
00:14:06.580
murder,
00:14:08.600
shouldn't you
00:14:09.200
keep your
00:14:09.960
mouth shut?
00:14:11.300
I mean,
00:14:11.540
only half of murders
00:14:12.740
are solved in the U.S.,
00:14:14.060
right?
00:14:14.360
Yeah,
00:14:16.420
like this is like
00:14:17.220
dumb.
00:14:17.960
Well,
00:14:18.120
so the actual
00:14:18.660
guy who did
00:14:20.140
the assassination,
00:14:21.540
he was like
00:14:22.000
top 1%
00:14:22.900
on like
00:14:23.420
ACTs.
00:14:24.400
He was from
00:14:25.140
like a
00:14:25.500
Mormon
00:14:26.240
conservative
00:14:27.660
like
00:14:28.220
MAGA family.
00:14:29.280
He seemed
00:14:29.680
like a decent
00:14:30.440
guy all throughout
00:14:31.080
high school,
00:14:31.660
all throughout
00:14:31.880
middle school.
00:14:32.320
Like everyone's
00:14:32.720
like,
00:14:33.140
he was a really
00:14:33.960
upstanding guy.
00:14:34.980
Goes to college,
00:14:36.400
gets radicalized.
00:14:37.740
And I've noticed
00:14:38.680
this as well,
00:14:39.740
where I've noticed
00:14:40.340
more radicalization
00:14:41.520
in the people
00:14:42.200
who long-term
00:14:42.960
date trans individuals
00:14:44.020
and the trans
00:14:44.580
individuals
00:14:44.920
themselves.
00:14:45.940
And I don't
00:14:46.600
know what's
00:14:47.680
causing this.
00:14:48.700
It might be
00:14:49.360
that like
00:14:49.840
because you
00:14:51.340
have to take
00:14:51.980
sort of a
00:14:52.400
submissive position
00:14:53.500
to their
00:14:54.500
ideology,
00:14:55.720
I mean,
00:14:55.960
you don't want
00:14:56.380
the cognitive
00:14:56.780
dissonance of
00:14:57.420
like there's
00:14:57.800
something like
00:14:58.520
they're doing
00:14:59.120
this hurting
00:14:59.480
themselves or
00:15:00.200
whatever.
00:15:00.960
You become
00:15:01.560
even more
00:15:02.220
extreme in
00:15:02.660
the ideology.
00:15:03.920
Well,
00:15:04.140
I think
00:15:04.420
actually it
00:15:05.100
has to do
00:15:05.720
more with
00:15:06.860
a feeling
00:15:08.380
of impunity
00:15:09.080
when you're
00:15:09.580
acting selflessly.
00:15:10.940
Like instead
00:15:11.300
of acting
00:15:11.900
in your own
00:15:12.620
self-
00:15:13.100
I'm not
00:15:15.560
doing this
00:15:16.160
for me
00:15:16.840
because you're
00:15:18.040
still seen
00:15:18.780
as selfish
00:15:20.220
even in a
00:15:20.840
game of
00:15:21.360
oppression
00:15:21.840
Olympics.
00:15:22.220
If you're
00:15:22.840
acting on
00:15:23.300
behalf of
00:15:23.760
your own
00:15:24.180
interest
00:15:24.560
group,
00:15:25.800
you have
00:15:26.800
more moral
00:15:27.840
impunity
00:15:28.420
per leftist
00:15:29.200
ideology if
00:15:30.620
you are acting
00:15:31.220
on behalf
00:15:31.760
of other
00:15:32.640
groups.
00:15:32.940
This is why
00:15:33.380
white Karens
00:15:34.320
in general
00:15:35.100
on the left,
00:15:36.540
well,
00:15:36.780
and on the
00:15:37.060
right,
00:15:37.300
but like
00:15:37.600
especially on
00:15:38.520
the left
00:15:38.820
in this
00:15:39.200
context
00:15:40.160
are so
00:15:41.260
uniquely
00:15:41.840
virulent
00:15:42.500
because they
00:15:43.800
believe they
00:15:44.660
are justified
00:15:45.220
in doing
00:15:45.640
anything
00:15:46.220
because they
00:15:46.680
are selflessly
00:15:47.840
arguing
00:15:48.580
in favor
00:15:50.580
of the people
00:15:51.520
that they
00:15:52.120
don't represent.
00:15:53.180
The director
00:15:53.600
that came to
00:15:53.940
our house
00:15:54.180
that was in
00:15:54.700
this group
00:15:55.520
of people,
00:15:55.960
she was
00:15:56.900
arguing on
00:15:57.460
behalf of
00:15:57.900
like,
00:15:58.120
oh,
00:15:58.380
the poor
00:15:58.960
Hispanic
00:15:59.820
population
00:16:00.580
and all
00:16:01.080
this horrible
00:16:01.560
stuff and
00:16:01.980
I'm like,
00:16:02.640
the majority
00:16:03.120
of Hispanic
00:16:03.640
men voted
00:16:04.160
for Trump
00:16:04.620
and he told
00:16:05.200
people he
00:16:05.600
was going
00:16:05.860
to do
00:16:06.080
this,
00:16:06.400
right?
00:16:06.560
Like,
00:16:07.280
you are
00:16:08.060
pretending
00:16:08.760
like speaking
00:16:09.680
on behalf
00:16:10.120
of another
00:16:10.560
group that
00:16:11.100
doesn't even
00:16:11.680
agree with
00:16:12.100
you.
00:16:12.260
You're speaking
00:16:12.760
against their
00:16:13.360
own asserted
00:16:14.840
self-interest.
00:16:16.300
Yeah,
00:16:16.460
well,
00:16:16.600
and you're
00:16:16.800
also ignoring
00:16:17.600
the,
00:16:18.900
to use your
00:16:19.400
own terminology,
00:16:20.120
I guess,
00:16:20.420
the lived
00:16:20.780
experience of
00:16:21.960
so many
00:16:23.120
people from
00:16:24.060
Latin America
00:16:24.820
and Central
00:16:25.460
America who
00:16:26.060
are either
00:16:26.240
going through
00:16:26.740
the process
00:16:27.340
of legally
00:16:27.800
immigrating
00:16:28.240
now or
00:16:28.580
who have
00:16:28.840
recently
00:16:29.180
gone through
00:16:29.740
the process
00:16:30.720
of legally
00:16:31.180
immigrating,
00:16:31.700
spending
00:16:31.940
tens of
00:16:32.420
thousands of
00:16:32.860
dollars that
00:16:33.560
they can't
00:16:34.380
afford to do
00:16:35.360
this all
00:16:35.740
correctly.
00:16:36.560
Only to
00:16:37.980
see a
00:16:38.400
whole bunch
00:16:38.740
of other
00:16:39.040
people jump
00:16:40.240
the lines,
00:16:40.960
cheat the
00:16:41.320
system,
00:16:41.700
and then be
00:16:42.020
given money.
00:16:43.400
I felt so
00:16:44.380
disgusted seeing
00:16:45.080
this woman talk
00:16:45.660
on behalf of
00:16:46.440
the Latin
00:16:46.680
American community
00:16:47.420
when she knew
00:16:48.080
that our
00:16:48.720
primary friend
00:16:49.740
network is
00:16:50.160
Latin American.
00:16:50.760
That is most
00:16:52.360
of our friends.
00:16:53.580
Not just most
00:16:54.060
of our friends,
00:16:54.460
but Bruno,
00:16:55.320
who works on
00:16:55.700
rfab.ai with
00:16:56.540
me,
00:16:56.800
and the team
00:16:57.340
working on
00:16:57.720
that is Latin
00:16:58.240
America.
00:16:58.760
Our company
00:16:59.300
is based
00:16:59.800
out of Peru.
00:17:01.000
He's based
00:17:01.620
out of Brazil
00:17:02.360
is where we're
00:17:02.800
doing that work
00:17:03.320
out of.
00:17:03.540
My first
00:17:05.620
kid's
00:17:06.080
godfather is
00:17:06.900
a Latin
00:17:07.420
American
00:17:07.660
immigrant.
00:17:08.540
We work
00:17:09.340
with the
00:17:09.560
Latin
00:17:09.680
American
00:17:09.900
community.
00:17:10.880
It was
00:17:11.320
very clear
00:17:11.680
to me that
00:17:11.980
I don't
00:17:12.160
think she
00:17:12.400
had any
00:17:12.740
Latin
00:17:12.920
American
00:17:13.120
friends.
00:17:14.160
Her
00:17:14.500
entire
00:17:15.080
team was
00:17:16.540
white
00:17:16.860
women,
00:17:17.240
like Karen's.
00:17:17.800
It was
00:17:17.960
the Karen
00:17:18.500
police.
00:17:18.840
I think
00:17:20.600
if one
00:17:21.360
of them
00:17:21.560
had been
00:17:22.140
Latin
00:17:22.320
American,
00:17:22.640
she would
00:17:22.820
have felt
00:17:23.040
less
00:17:23.280
comfortable
00:17:23.640
saying
00:17:24.360
stuff
00:17:24.640
like
00:17:24.780
that.
00:17:25.760
You
00:17:26.120
actually
00:17:26.400
pointed out
00:17:26.740
to me,
00:17:26.940
which I thought
00:17:27.160
was a very
00:17:27.580
funny and
00:17:28.020
interesting
00:17:28.280
observation,
00:17:29.000
is in the
00:17:29.580
90s,
00:17:30.120
they'd always
00:17:30.460
have these
00:17:30.800
interracial
00:17:31.920
friend groups
00:17:32.400
where one
00:17:32.980
is Asian
00:17:33.460
and one
00:17:33.840
is Black
00:17:34.280
and one
00:17:34.640
is Hispanic.
00:17:35.100
Like on TV
00:17:35.580
shows.
00:17:36.120
That was their
00:17:36.740
way to show
00:17:37.200
diversity.
00:17:38.260
You're like,
00:17:39.680
but in reality,
00:17:41.300
if you've ever
00:17:41.860
been in a
00:17:42.360
friend group
00:17:42.660
like that,
00:17:43.280
you know that
00:17:43.840
there is no
00:17:44.560
more racist
00:17:45.300
friend group
00:17:45.920
than a
00:17:46.300
friend group
00:17:46.620
like that.
00:17:47.180
That'd be
00:17:47.460
the most
00:17:47.760
based racist
00:17:48.620
friend group
00:17:49.720
ever.
00:17:50.860
And this is
00:17:52.140
the thing,
00:17:52.640
and I think
00:17:53.000
there was
00:17:53.340
the study
00:17:53.940
that we went
00:17:54.440
over in another
00:17:55.400
episode that
00:17:55.800
showed that
00:17:56.180
conservatives
00:17:56.600
have more
00:17:57.060
interracial
00:17:57.840
friends than
00:17:58.360
progressives do.
00:17:59.860
I've got to
00:18:00.240
find that
00:18:00.900
somewhere.
00:18:01.580
But it's
00:18:02.340
in part
00:18:02.760
because of
00:18:03.320
this.
00:18:03.560
Once you
00:18:04.020
enter this
00:18:04.820
post-racist
00:18:06.960
world,
00:18:07.880
I think
00:18:08.740
there's the
00:18:09.380
racist,
00:18:09.940
there's the
00:18:10.180
anti-racist,
00:18:10.920
and then
00:18:11.120
there's the
00:18:11.580
post-racist.
00:18:13.020
The way I
00:18:13.940
feel it now,
00:18:14.720
at least
00:18:15.020
the feeling
00:18:16.660
I get
00:18:17.180
from the
00:18:17.720
id of
00:18:18.240
the United
00:18:18.520
States is
00:18:19.160
that we
00:18:19.400
are all
00:18:20.000
stifled under
00:18:21.700
this heavy
00:18:22.360
wet wool
00:18:23.200
blanket of
00:18:25.220
racial dysphoria
00:18:28.540
or racist
00:18:30.080
dysphoria,
00:18:30.860
and then
00:18:31.180
beneath it
00:18:31.820
is just
00:18:32.240
this itching
00:18:33.320
racist euphoria
00:18:35.040
where people
00:18:35.780
just 100%
00:18:37.760
work together,
00:18:38.960
whatever,
00:18:39.460
but just,
00:18:40.760
you know.
00:18:41.280
like the
00:18:42.120
director lady
00:18:42.820
we had over
00:18:43.200
said racist,
00:18:44.240
like constantly
00:18:45.400
she was saying
00:18:45.820
racist and
00:18:46.300
sexist stuff.
00:18:47.080
Like,
00:18:47.580
aren't you
00:18:48.200
afraid,
00:18:49.320
ashamed to
00:18:49.800
be white,
00:18:50.560
you know.
00:18:51.400
Aren't you ashamed
00:18:52.040
of your white
00:18:52.600
privilege?
00:18:53.880
Yeah,
00:18:54.180
no,
00:18:54.440
this is stuff
00:18:55.620
like imagine
00:18:56.020
if you said
00:18:56.560
like,
00:18:57.260
one person
00:18:57.920
was like,
00:18:58.160
I'm ashamed
00:18:58.440
to be white.
00:18:58.920
I'm like,
00:18:59.120
imagine if a
00:18:59.600
black person
00:18:59.980
was like,
00:19:00.300
I'm ashamed
00:19:00.640
to be black.
00:19:01.140
You'd say
00:19:01.420
they have
00:19:01.700
internalized
00:19:02.140
racism,
00:19:02.600
right?
00:19:03.220
Like,
00:19:03.340
this is just
00:19:03.840
racism.
00:19:04.460
But she
00:19:04.940
like was
00:19:05.420
getting off
00:19:06.020
on being racist
00:19:06.660
all the time
00:19:07.120
because she
00:19:07.460
thought she could
00:19:08.160
like get
00:19:08.840
away with
00:19:09.220
it in a
00:19:09.560
modern context.
00:19:10.540
Which was
00:19:11.200
just like,
00:19:12.120
it's hilarious
00:19:12.920
how frequently
00:19:13.900
like Wokies
00:19:14.820
act just
00:19:15.780
like transparently
00:19:16.540
racist when
00:19:17.160
they think
00:19:17.460
they can get
00:19:17.780
away with
00:19:18.060
it.
00:19:18.220
Like this
00:19:18.420
like deep
00:19:18.900
desire to
00:19:19.580
be racist
00:19:20.020
all the
00:19:20.320
time.
00:19:21.440
But anyway,
00:19:22.740
I'm gonna
00:19:23.100
keep going
00:19:23.400
with this
00:19:23.640
conversation
00:19:24.040
here.
00:19:25.700
So this
00:19:26.620
topic exploded
00:19:27.500
a bit after
00:19:28.080
we recorded
00:19:28.780
this episode
00:19:29.440
with a number
00:19:30.160
of other
00:19:30.540
instances coming
00:19:31.380
to light.
00:19:32.360
Specifically,
00:19:33.260
there was a
00:19:33.860
TikToker on
00:19:34.560
a trans account
00:19:35.260
that said
00:19:36.080
this was
00:19:36.980
somebody called
00:19:37.620
at definitely
00:19:38.320
not Jackson.
00:19:39.780
Charlie Kirk,
00:19:40.680
Mr. College
00:19:41.260
Dropout,
00:19:41.840
does not know
00:19:42.420
what's coming
00:19:42.840
tomorrow.
00:19:43.620
Be ready.
00:19:44.520
This isn't a
00:19:45.200
threat.
00:19:45.580
It's a promise.
00:19:46.520
There were
00:19:47.380
also two
00:19:48.380
other accounts.
00:19:49.740
One that
00:19:50.660
was titled
00:19:51.420
Tally Halibum,
00:19:53.160
which on
00:19:54.140
September 3rd,
00:19:55.300
2025,
00:19:56.160
a week before
00:19:56.720
the shooting,
00:19:57.860
posted,
00:19:58.820
it would be
00:19:59.180
funny if
00:19:59.720
someone like
00:20:00.220
Charlie Kirk
00:20:00.840
got shot on
00:20:01.620
September 10th
00:20:02.520
LMAO.
00:20:03.780
Was this
00:20:04.260
individual?
00:20:05.040
We don't know
00:20:05.880
if they're trans
00:20:06.580
or not,
00:20:06.920
but the FBI
00:20:07.560
suspects they
00:20:08.400
are because
00:20:08.840
they're doing
00:20:09.200
an investigation
00:20:09.760
into this.
00:20:11.220
And then
00:20:11.740
another one
00:20:12.360
at Altog
00:20:13.380
on August 6th,
00:20:15.080
2025,
00:20:16.000
about a month
00:20:16.400
before the
00:20:16.900
shooting,
00:20:17.740
the account
00:20:18.180
posted,
00:20:19.100
September 10th
00:20:19.940
will be a
00:20:20.260
very interesting
00:20:20.900
day.
00:20:21.820
A follow-up
00:20:22.580
after the
00:20:23.580
shooting said,
00:20:24.300
I plead the
00:20:24.820
fifth in
00:20:25.820
relation to
00:20:26.420
the previous
00:20:26.880
post.
00:20:27.560
This post
00:20:28.120
also reposted
00:20:29.120
another account
00:20:29.800
that we'll be
00:20:30.140
talking about
00:20:30.460
in a second,
00:20:30.940
the Cherbom75
00:20:32.300
account,
00:20:33.300
which was
00:20:34.080
another
00:20:35.160
transgender
00:20:35.700
individual.
00:20:36.140
This person,
00:20:37.640
the Altog of
00:20:38.580
the people who
00:20:39.200
knew about this
00:20:39.780
beforehand,
00:20:40.300
is the only one
00:20:41.100
that claims to
00:20:41.780
be a cis man,
00:20:43.120
although they do
00:20:44.220
say that they
00:20:45.060
used they-them
00:20:46.240
pronouns for a
00:20:47.300
while,
00:20:47.740
but had recently
00:20:48.760
moved back.
00:20:49.740
And I'd point out
00:20:50.460
here for people
00:20:50.940
who are too deep
00:20:51.500
to realize this,
00:20:52.540
using they-them
00:20:53.200
pronouns is not
00:20:54.200
like dipping your
00:20:55.220
toes in the
00:20:56.000
trans community.
00:20:56.640
You have to be
00:20:57.360
pretty deep in
00:20:58.340
the community
00:20:58.840
to use not
00:21:00.660
just like he,
00:21:01.680
her,
00:21:02.120
or whatever,
00:21:03.480
to use like
00:21:04.380
neo-pronouns.
00:21:05.680
So in a
00:21:07.100
steam group
00:21:08.380
that was titled
00:21:09.420
Read This If
00:21:09.980
You're Gay,
00:21:10.420
which was like
00:21:10.820
for like memes
00:21:11.660
and stuff,
00:21:12.540
September 10th,
00:21:13.620
2025,
00:21:14.860
1124.
00:21:16.000
So-
00:21:16.360
Oh,
00:21:16.660
so is that what
00:21:17.580
that one bullet
00:21:18.200
engraving was?
00:21:19.040
If you're reading
00:21:19.460
this,
00:21:19.720
you are gay?
00:21:21.440
Oh yeah,
00:21:22.060
he mentioned
00:21:22.560
the steam group
00:21:23.500
in the bullet.
00:21:24.480
I hadn't even
00:21:25.000
noticed that.
00:21:25.460
If you're reading
00:21:25.680
this,
00:21:26.000
you are gay,
00:21:26.500
lol,
00:21:26.780
something like that,
00:21:27.480
right?
00:21:27.600
It's a common
00:21:28.180
meme,
00:21:28.680
but in the
00:21:29.240
group referenced
00:21:30.060
on the shell
00:21:30.720
casing,
00:21:31.480
right?
00:21:32.540
That he was
00:21:33.100
a member of
00:21:33.920
before the
00:21:35.760
assassination
00:21:36.240
happened.
00:21:36.700
Oh no,
00:21:36.980
sorry.
00:21:37.520
This was
00:21:37.900
mere hours
00:21:38.920
after the
00:21:39.900
fatal shooting.
00:21:40.560
So around
00:21:40.920
7pm that
00:21:41.500
evening,
00:21:42.440
but crucially
00:21:43.280
before the
00:21:44.240
suspect's arrest
00:21:45.600
or acknowledgement.
00:21:46.700
So he was a
00:21:47.520
member of this
00:21:47.960
group.
00:21:48.620
The group
00:21:49.080
didn't,
00:21:50.640
you know,
00:21:51.240
publicly,
00:21:52.120
would have had
00:21:52.620
no way of
00:21:53.080
knowing that he
00:21:53.760
was involved in
00:21:54.440
this,
00:21:54.900
presumably,
00:21:55.580
right?
00:21:56.440
So it was a
00:21:56.780
group that was
00:21:57.220
focused on
00:21:58.220
furry and
00:21:59.080
LGBTQ plus
00:22:00.340
subculture.
00:22:01.420
A poster
00:22:01.920
named
00:22:02.620
Cherry
00:22:03.680
Sevlon,
00:22:05.020
who unfortunately
00:22:05.920
wasn't able to
00:22:06.440
get any other
00:22:06.860
information on,
00:22:08.200
said,
00:22:08.600
be careful over
00:22:09.420
your SHIT,
00:22:11.140
you say,
00:22:11.800
online,
00:22:12.680
end-to-end
00:22:13.260
encryption messaging
00:22:14.180
platforms like
00:22:15.580
Signal exists for
00:22:16.740
reasons,
00:22:17.500
or just use
00:22:18.620
PGP,
00:22:19.880
and yes,
00:22:20.580
this is directly
00:22:21.640
referencing a very
00:22:22.660
specific thing
00:22:23.400
that happened.
00:22:23.900
Oh,
00:22:25.180
that's,
00:22:26.100
as Octavian
00:22:27.100
would say,
00:22:28.000
sus.
00:22:29.180
Sus.
00:22:29.900
No,
00:22:30.240
it's not
00:22:30.660
sus,
00:22:31.060
it's basically
00:22:31.720
admitting.
00:22:32.280
It was after
00:22:33.100
the shooting,
00:22:33.860
the member
00:22:34.260
was there,
00:22:35.140
it referenced
00:22:35.600
the group
00:22:35.940
on the
00:22:36.240
shell casings,
00:22:37.220
that hadn't
00:22:37.860
been announced
00:22:38.360
at the time
00:22:39.200
yet,
00:22:40.060
and one member
00:22:40.640
of the group
00:22:41.060
is like,
00:22:41.740
hey guys,
00:22:42.600
just make sure
00:22:43.100
you don't talk
00:22:43.580
about this
00:22:43.900
publicly.
00:22:44.840
So it meant
00:22:45.360
that this was
00:22:45.800
being discussed
00:22:46.620
within the
00:22:47.100
community,
00:22:47.620
right?
00:22:48.320
This was
00:22:48.700
something that
00:22:49.100
a lot of
00:22:49.660
people knew
00:22:50.180
about before
00:22:50.820
it happened.
00:22:51.360
So was
00:22:52.900
Sky Balladez.
00:22:55.140
They are a
00:22:55.720
Utah-based
00:22:56.500
musician and
00:22:57.360
photographer and
00:22:58.520
trans as well,
00:22:59.500
and they are a
00:23:00.480
one-woman noise
00:23:01.300
metal band
00:23:02.240
called God's
00:23:02.940
Finest Scalpel,
00:23:03.880
and they appear
00:23:04.680
to work as
00:23:05.120
like a
00:23:05.720
tattooist.
00:23:07.460
Anyway,
00:23:08.140
they released
00:23:09.820
a song in
00:23:11.080
August 2025,
00:23:12.300
so a few
00:23:12.700
months before
00:23:13.340
this,
00:23:14.380
titled
00:23:14.820
Charlie Kirk
00:23:15.800
Dead at
00:23:16.520
31,
00:23:17.960
and then
00:23:18.860
in April
00:23:19.620
2025,
00:23:20.260
they released
00:23:21.660
a song
00:23:21.980
titled
00:23:22.380
Charlie Kirk's
00:23:23.220
Death Isn't
00:23:23.880
Enough for
00:23:24.260
Me,
00:23:24.920
and Death
00:23:25.680
to American
00:23:26.320
Scum.
00:23:27.600
So,
00:23:28.240
he was
00:23:29.240
killed at
00:23:29.920
31.
00:23:30.540
So,
00:23:31.120
this was a
00:23:31.560
I thought he
00:23:31.700
was 32.
00:23:33.020
Was he
00:23:33.380
32?
00:23:34.100
Mm-hmm.
00:23:34.760
Let's look it
00:23:35.080
up.
00:23:35.440
October 14,
00:23:36.340
1993.
00:23:37.720
God,
00:23:38.040
we're old.
00:23:38.960
Age of
00:23:39.220
death,
00:23:39.420
31 years.
00:23:39.980
I was wrong.
00:23:40.760
Told you.
00:23:41.900
So,
00:23:42.280
yeah,
00:23:42.520
so this
00:23:43.500
individual
00:23:43.900
appeared to
00:23:44.580
know ahead
00:23:46.260
of time,
00:23:46.600
months ahead
00:23:46.920
of time,
00:23:47.400
when Charlie Kirk
00:23:48.180
was going to
00:23:48.460
be killed.
00:23:48.980
And keep in
00:23:49.620
mind,
00:23:49.780
you can be
00:23:50.140
like,
00:23:50.680
it could be
00:23:51.320
a random
00:23:52.060
coincidence
00:23:52.920
that this
00:23:53.780
person knew.
00:23:54.740
I'm like,
00:23:55.340
okay,
00:23:56.160
let's go
00:23:57.400
back here a
00:23:58.000
bit.
00:23:58.480
This was a
00:23:59.300
trans individual.
00:24:00.760
Everyone who
00:24:01.260
seemed to know
00:24:01.720
beforehand was a
00:24:02.460
trans individual
00:24:03.040
in Utah.
00:24:05.380
So,
00:24:06.360
that's an
00:24:07.200
unusual trans
00:24:08.260
community as
00:24:08.900
well,
00:24:09.200
like the
00:24:09.520
exmo trans
00:24:10.360
community,
00:24:11.020
right,
00:24:11.800
around this
00:24:12.800
university.
00:24:14.040
Like,
00:24:15.560
you still
00:24:16.240
think that's a
00:24:16.920
coincidence?
00:24:17.300
It appears
00:24:19.620
very clear
00:24:20.520
where this
00:24:21.400
individual who
00:24:22.120
did the
00:24:22.540
shooting was
00:24:22.940
radicalized.
00:24:25.120
And the
00:24:25.720
community that
00:24:26.300
helped him
00:24:26.640
plan this.
00:24:27.400
Now,
00:24:27.860
obviously,
00:24:28.280
the question
00:24:28.660
here is,
00:24:29.220
did they just
00:24:29.640
passively know
00:24:30.460
about this?
00:24:31.160
or were
00:24:32.800
they actively
00:24:33.460
engaged with
00:24:34.160
the planning
00:24:34.840
and stuff
00:24:35.320
like this?
00:24:36.140
Given the
00:24:36.780
fact,
00:24:37.140
I mean,
00:24:37.300
if you look
00:24:37.640
at the
00:24:37.860
anger that
00:24:38.380
goes into
00:24:38.800
songs like,
00:24:40.000
like,
00:24:40.260
these songs
00:24:40.520
are super
00:24:41.020
angry,
00:24:41.720
like,
00:24:42.020
Charlie
00:24:42.240
Kirk dead
00:24:42.640
at 31,
00:24:43.680
and Charlie
00:24:44.340
Kirk's death
00:24:44.820
isn't enough
00:24:45.360
for me,
00:24:46.220
these,
00:24:47.380
like,
00:24:48.080
this person
00:24:48.560
was clearly
00:24:48.980
thinking about
00:24:49.740
this a lot,
00:24:50.500
and they
00:24:51.760
expected the
00:24:52.800
audience to
00:24:54.120
be aware of
00:24:55.000
this.
00:24:55.300
Like,
00:24:55.480
in their
00:24:55.760
underground
00:24:56.520
trans Utah
00:24:57.820
music scene,
00:24:58.880
they expected
00:25:00.280
there to be,
00:25:01.520
like,
00:25:01.600
enough knowledge
00:25:02.800
about this
00:25:04.120
to get,
00:25:04.640
like,
00:25:04.960
underground
00:25:05.400
credit points
00:25:06.380
that this
00:25:07.100
is something
00:25:07.480
that was
00:25:07.800
going to
00:25:08.160
happen in
00:25:08.520
the near
00:25:08.700
future.
00:25:11.400
And I
00:25:13.260
hate what
00:25:14.100
I'm seeing
00:25:14.500
on the left
00:25:15.000
in regards
00:25:15.400
to this,
00:25:16.040
is they're
00:25:16.380
like,
00:25:16.660
oh,
00:25:17.340
that was
00:25:17.920
debunked,
00:25:18.800
right?
00:25:19.020
Like,
00:25:19.160
I'm actually
00:25:19.460
seeing,
00:25:19.900
like,
00:25:20.340
and what
00:25:20.620
they mean
00:25:21.220
is it
00:25:21.800
was debunked
00:25:22.760
that the
00:25:23.200
individual
00:25:23.540
who wrote
00:25:24.520
these songs,
00:25:25.260
Sky Vandalize,
00:25:26.500
was the
00:25:26.920
shooter themselves.
00:25:27.800
I'm like,
00:25:29.540
yes,
00:25:31.080
they weren't
00:25:31.760
the shooter.
00:25:32.940
That's not,
00:25:34.020
it's not
00:25:34.520
debunked that
00:25:35.320
they wrote
00:25:35.800
these songs
00:25:36.500
and they
00:25:36.780
were very
00:25:37.200
publicly on
00:25:38.020
multiple song
00:25:39.100
hosting platforms,
00:25:40.760
right?
00:25:41.080
Like,
00:25:41.340
that wasn't
00:25:42.000
debunked.
00:25:42.680
It is
00:25:43.100
debunked
00:25:43.840
that they
00:25:44.900
were not
00:25:45.300
the shooter.
00:25:46.500
Or they'll
00:25:47.180
say,
00:25:47.440
oh,
00:25:47.540
that first
00:25:47.940
tweet was
00:25:48.280
debunked.
00:25:48.640
And I was
00:25:48.800
like,
00:25:48.960
no,
00:25:49.180
the image
00:25:49.680
associated
00:25:50.180
with it
00:25:50.560
was debunked.
00:25:51.240
Not that
00:25:52.560
somebody who
00:25:53.520
was a trans
00:25:54.040
individual going
00:25:55.160
to this
00:25:55.580
university in
00:25:56.660
Utah,
00:25:57.060
appeared to
00:25:57.820
have knowledge
00:25:58.300
that the
00:25:58.620
shooting was
00:25:58.980
about to
00:25:59.280
happen.
00:25:59.920
Right.
00:26:01.340
Now I want
00:26:01.960
to quickly go
00:26:02.480
over the,
00:26:03.700
oh,
00:26:04.020
other,
00:26:04.660
other accounts.
00:26:05.440
Sorry.
00:26:06.120
There was also
00:26:07.040
we effing did
00:26:08.500
it,
00:26:09.080
let it die,
00:26:09.980
let it die.
00:26:11.140
These were
00:26:12.180
tweeted by
00:26:13.900
potentially the,
00:26:15.860
the partner of,
00:26:17.040
of the,
00:26:17.540
the assassin,
00:26:18.840
but it could
00:26:20.220
have been another
00:26:20.900
trans account.
00:26:21.880
So this is yet
00:26:22.320
another trans account
00:26:23.840
that may have been
00:26:24.500
involved and known
00:26:25.020
about this.
00:26:25.440
This would have
00:26:26.360
been an account
00:26:26.840
called at
00:26:27.580
Trub 75.
00:26:29.620
This was a
00:26:30.420
male to female
00:26:31.340
account.
00:26:32.240
The account
00:26:33.280
in,
00:26:34.300
in the
00:26:35.980
account's bio
00:26:36.700
at the time
00:26:37.520
said,
00:26:38.360
saw Tyler
00:26:39.440
on June
00:26:40.140
30th.
00:26:42.080
So Tyler
00:26:42.940
was the name
00:26:43.520
of the assassin,
00:26:44.120
if you're
00:26:44.540
forgetting here,
00:26:45.200
by the way.
00:26:45.940
Now they later
00:26:46.900
said,
00:26:47.360
oh no,
00:26:47.980
this was a
00:26:48.540
band I went
00:26:49.400
to see.
00:26:51.080
But again,
00:26:52.080
this is very
00:26:52.760
sus.
00:26:53.180
Sorry,
00:26:54.300
the most
00:26:54.720
important part
00:26:55.320
of this is
00:26:55.740
the person
00:26:56.100
who said
00:26:56.600
we effing
00:26:57.240
did it.
00:26:58.140
This trans
00:26:58.720
individual was
00:26:59.320
a follower
00:26:59.740
of the
00:27:00.840
assassin's
00:27:01.660
trans
00:27:02.120
girlfriend
00:27:02.640
on Twitter,
00:27:03.740
so appeared
00:27:04.120
to have
00:27:04.480
direct connection
00:27:05.300
to that group.
00:27:06.280
And I would
00:27:06.660
note here,
00:27:07.300
any individual
00:27:08.360
one of these
00:27:08.860
instances,
00:27:09.460
I might be
00:27:09.820
like,
00:27:10.300
coincidence,
00:27:10.860
crazy coincidence,
00:27:11.860
but still
00:27:12.180
coincidence in
00:27:12.960
people acting
00:27:13.500
in bad taste.
00:27:14.860
Given the
00:27:15.720
similarities
00:27:16.520
between the
00:27:17.360
individuals who
00:27:17.960
appeared to
00:27:18.340
know about
00:27:18.660
this beforehand,
00:27:19.920
given that
00:27:20.420
they appear
00:27:21.000
connected to
00:27:21.680
each other,
00:27:22.580
and given
00:27:23.160
the implausibility
00:27:24.980
that so many
00:27:25.800
of them could
00:27:26.340
make this
00:27:26.940
accidental prediction
00:27:28.200
all at once,
00:27:29.380
it seems fairly
00:27:30.400
obvious there
00:27:31.200
was a wider,
00:27:32.320
well,
00:27:32.760
trans Utah
00:27:33.280
community involved
00:27:34.480
in this.
00:27:35.160
All right,
00:27:35.700
now I want to
00:27:36.540
talk about
00:27:36.980
the celebrations.
00:27:38.720
Because it's
00:27:39.180
also something
00:27:39.580
that we need
00:27:39.920
to talk about
00:27:40.300
as a society,
00:27:40.980
because it's
00:27:41.360
like...
00:27:42.180
Well,
00:27:42.680
actually,
00:27:43.040
there's one
00:27:43.320
thing I kind
00:27:43.740
of wanted to
00:27:44.100
ask you about,
00:27:45.240
you know,
00:27:45.520
on this trans
00:27:46.600
associations front.
00:27:48.100
Because at
00:27:48.960
first,
00:27:49.600
when we recorded
00:27:50.600
the episode
00:27:51.600
about the
00:27:52.100
assassination,
00:27:53.080
all that we
00:27:53.620
knew,
00:27:54.560
it was reported
00:27:55.460
that there
00:27:56.280
were anti-fascist
00:27:57.900
and trans
00:27:58.740
slogans.
00:27:59.580
Oh, no, no.
00:28:00.080
People had
00:28:00.500
already said
00:28:00.900
that the trans
00:28:01.440
slogans were
00:28:02.120
not actually
00:28:02.700
on the bullets.
00:28:03.380
And they
00:28:03.580
weren't.
00:28:03.820
It turned
00:28:04.000
out they
00:28:04.220
weren't.
00:28:04.480
They weren't.
00:28:05.120
It was just
00:28:05.780
terminally
00:28:06.740
online stuff.
00:28:08.140
And my
00:28:09.340
initial read
00:28:09.940
of it was,
00:28:10.660
oh, this is
00:28:11.360
just a
00:28:11.760
terminally
00:28:12.240
online person.
00:28:13.440
What's your
00:28:13.800
refutation of
00:28:14.620
that?
00:28:14.920
And what's
00:28:15.240
your refutation
00:28:15.680
of arguments
00:28:16.460
that, no,
00:28:17.520
what's wrong
00:28:18.100
with this
00:28:18.420
person isn't
00:28:19.120
leftism or
00:28:19.920
rightism,
00:28:20.600
they could
00:28:21.260
have easily
00:28:21.640
have fallen
00:28:22.120
for Nick
00:28:22.480
Fuentes or
00:28:23.060
something else
00:28:23.780
and gone
00:28:24.560
super right
00:28:25.180
instead of
00:28:25.660
super left.
00:28:26.680
The issue
00:28:27.540
is that they
00:28:28.000
were too
00:28:28.360
online and
00:28:28.920
they didn't,
00:28:29.440
as Charlie
00:28:29.840
Kirk encouraged
00:28:30.500
people to
00:28:30.960
touch grass
00:28:31.740
enough.
00:28:32.460
Yeah, I
00:28:33.060
actually don't
00:28:33.740
think that's
00:28:34.360
a good
00:28:35.160
explanation at
00:28:35.860
all.
00:28:36.340
Okay, so
00:28:36.740
why?
00:28:37.760
First, if
00:28:38.600
you look at
00:28:39.100
the people
00:28:39.520
who appeared
00:28:40.140
to know
00:28:40.680
about this
00:28:41.400
before the
00:28:42.580
event, they
00:28:43.460
appear to be
00:28:44.260
not internet
00:28:45.420
friends, but
00:28:46.380
IRL friends.
00:28:47.860
these are
00:28:48.780
Utah, ex-Mormon
00:28:51.540
trans individuals.
00:28:53.020
That implies a
00:28:54.460
in-person community
00:28:56.100
to me.
00:28:56.600
Yeah.
00:28:56.860
They likely, and
00:28:58.200
when you're talking
00:28:58.560
about stuff like
00:28:59.120
indie musicians and
00:29:00.280
stuff like that,
00:29:01.280
that to me implies
00:29:02.760
like underground
00:29:03.820
clubs.
00:29:04.860
An IRL scene.
00:29:06.280
An IRL scene
00:29:07.760
where this was being
00:29:08.720
talked about, not
00:29:10.120
just was in
00:29:11.140
online forums.
00:29:12.060
And I'd also
00:29:13.900
note here, the
00:29:14.480
very fact that I
00:29:15.600
was able to
00:29:16.220
call out that
00:29:17.020
this was going
00:29:17.740
to come from
00:29:18.360
the trans
00:29:18.780
community is
00:29:19.980
pretty effing
00:29:20.740
wild.
00:29:21.240
When I'm like,
00:29:21.720
oh yeah, they're
00:29:22.320
the only ones who
00:29:23.100
really do political
00:29:23.800
violence like this.
00:29:25.240
Not like only do,
00:29:26.260
but they seem to
00:29:26.740
disproportionately do
00:29:27.660
it and radicalize
00:29:28.260
individuals.
00:29:28.940
That's very unique.
00:29:30.400
That's not
00:29:30.820
happening on, you
00:29:32.140
know, there
00:29:32.340
hasn't...
00:29:33.120
Well, they found
00:29:33.820
the perfect storm
00:29:34.780
because they brought
00:29:35.680
in a conservatively
00:29:37.400
raised, gun-trained
00:29:38.880
young man who
00:29:40.960
actually was a good
00:29:41.660
shot.
00:29:43.100
Yeah.
00:29:44.100
Because normally
00:29:44.820
their hit rate
00:29:45.480
isn't great.
00:29:46.560
Yeah, they work
00:29:46.980
to find an
00:29:47.860
individual like
00:29:48.300
this and bring
00:29:48.620
them into the
00:29:48.940
community.
00:29:49.620
But no, they,
00:29:50.340
as a community,
00:29:52.400
and you've also
00:29:52.840
talked about this
00:29:53.320
with Mormons
00:29:54.160
being uniquely
00:29:54.720
susceptible.
00:29:55.320
I think this is
00:29:55.780
more due to
00:29:56.640
just sort of
00:29:57.480
the genetic
00:29:58.320
effects of being
00:29:59.140
a Mormon.
00:29:59.380
People actually
00:29:59.820
who follow our
00:30:00.460
podcast had
00:30:01.220
hoped that you
00:30:01.720
would comment
00:30:02.100
on this too.
00:30:02.840
Like, is this,
00:30:04.580
is a lot of
00:30:05.480
this about that,
00:30:06.460
this dynamic
00:30:07.000
that you pointed
00:30:07.480
out where Mormon
00:30:08.740
children seem to
00:30:10.120
be uniquely
00:30:10.920
vulnerable to
00:30:12.900
being radicalized
00:30:14.140
by extreme
00:30:14.800
online groups?
00:30:16.240
Well, I think
00:30:16.880
Mormons are sort
00:30:18.060
of designed
00:30:19.080
for, like, I
00:30:20.980
don't mean this
00:30:21.440
anything, I love
00:30:22.340
Mormons, it's a
00:30:22.940
great culture, lots
00:30:23.800
of Mormon friends,
00:30:24.820
fans, very close
00:30:25.780
with the Mormon
00:30:26.260
community.
00:30:26.880
I even consider
00:30:27.680
my theology
00:30:28.360
pretty close to
00:30:29.500
Mormon, some
00:30:30.180
forms of Mormon
00:30:30.740
theology.
00:30:31.120
And so I think
00:30:33.500
that if we look
00:30:34.820
historically at
00:30:36.260
what drew people
00:30:37.240
to the Mormon
00:30:37.780
church and the
00:30:38.880
personality profile
00:30:39.880
that drew people
00:30:40.460
to the Mormon
00:30:40.880
church, it is a,
00:30:43.100
like, historically
00:30:43.860
speaking, and I
00:30:46.260
think Mormons who
00:30:47.160
are, like, more
00:30:47.980
broadly able to
00:30:49.320
see their religion
00:30:50.280
without bias would
00:30:52.180
understand that their
00:30:52.860
religion in its
00:30:54.200
fairly recent history
00:30:55.220
is what, if it was
00:30:56.660
that today, we would
00:30:57.820
just call a cult.
00:30:58.600
Like, I mean, you
00:30:59.920
could call our
00:31:00.460
religion a cult
00:31:00.960
because it's a new
00:31:01.400
religion.
00:31:01.700
Most new religion
00:31:02.260
movements are.
00:31:02.740
I think the
00:31:03.140
argument you've
00:31:03.680
made, though, at
00:31:04.780
least to any Mormon
00:31:05.960
who's like, well,
00:31:06.520
what advice would
00:31:07.160
you give to the
00:31:07.600
LDS church on
00:31:08.840
growth?
00:31:09.400
The best argument
00:31:10.180
that I've heard you
00:31:10.700
make that I really
00:31:11.300
agree with is, hey,
00:31:13.760
actually, the best
00:31:15.460
thing that the LDS
00:31:16.260
church could do is
00:31:17.200
lean into weirdness
00:31:18.080
because the problem
00:31:18.900
is by leaning into
00:31:20.660
conformity and
00:31:21.540
acceptance, you are
00:31:23.340
making it hard for
00:31:25.340
members of the
00:31:26.240
church to stay in
00:31:27.040
the church when
00:31:27.540
they're exposed to
00:31:28.260
mainstream
00:31:28.600
society.
00:31:29.460
Exactly.
00:31:30.300
To take that a
00:31:31.220
step further, once
00:31:32.720
these people who
00:31:34.180
are raised in this
00:31:34.960
kind of, you must
00:31:35.960
conform with the
00:31:36.740
group you're in, end
00:31:38.020
up in radicalized
00:31:39.300
groups like this,
00:31:41.340
they go bonkers.
00:31:43.000
Well, and also,
00:31:44.180
what are they
00:31:44.660
supposed to do?
00:31:45.220
I mean, you, a lot
00:31:46.300
of the sort of
00:31:46.940
Mormon culture teaches
00:31:47.620
people, be normal,
00:31:48.860
be normal, because
00:31:49.480
it's afraid of this
00:31:50.100
cult branding.
00:31:50.800
But be normative
00:31:51.380
with your surrounding
00:31:52.200
group.
00:31:53.120
Right.
00:31:53.560
The problem is, is
00:31:55.020
the normative
00:31:55.920
group, like the
00:31:56.580
normative cultural
00:31:57.460
group, is
00:31:58.580
the urban
00:32:00.400
monoculture, right?
00:32:01.740
And so, now
00:32:03.120
they're like, well,
00:32:03.960
if I'm actually
00:32:04.700
going to be normal,
00:32:05.420
I'm going to adapt
00:32:06.380
to urban monocultural
00:32:07.440
practices, and then
00:32:08.720
it's like, but I
00:32:09.280
still have all of
00:32:10.020
these, like, extremist
00:32:10.940
cultist tendencies,
00:32:12.360
so what's a cult
00:32:13.640
that's approved by the
00:32:14.680
urban monoculture?
00:32:15.380
Oh, it's this identity
00:32:17.660
politics stuff.
00:32:18.760
So I'm going to go
00:32:19.360
100% all in on that.
00:32:21.540
And I think the way
00:32:22.200
that you fix this is
00:32:23.220
teach your kids, we
00:32:24.700
are different, we are
00:32:25.980
not normal, and you
00:32:27.440
should have pride in
00:32:28.200
that.
00:32:29.160
Normal is bad.
00:32:30.380
Don't be normal.
00:32:31.440
Be weird, because being
00:32:33.120
Mormon is weird, and
00:32:34.360
that's cool, right?
00:32:35.960
And that's how you
00:32:36.880
resist this.
00:32:37.600
You know, when these
00:32:38.020
people come to him,
00:32:38.620
and they're like, you
00:32:39.200
are a Mormon, which
00:32:40.640
makes you weird in X, Y,
00:32:41.720
and Z way.
00:32:42.620
You can actually hit
00:32:43.460
them with the UNO
00:32:44.060
reverse card.
00:32:44.700
Be like, what, are you
00:32:45.360
discriminating against me
00:32:46.360
for my minority
00:32:47.280
religious background?
00:32:48.660
Like, do you know
00:32:49.220
what Mormons have gone
00:32:50.140
through with the U.S.
00:32:51.000
government?
00:32:51.500
Are you aware of the
00:32:52.800
number of Mormons that
00:32:53.840
were killed at the
00:32:54.740
battle of whatever?
00:32:55.940
My people have been
00:32:57.080
through discrimination
00:32:58.240
since blah, blah, blah,
00:32:59.260
blah, blah.
00:32:59.560
You know, you go,
00:33:00.220
right, we haven't even
00:33:01.080
had a president yet.
00:33:02.220
You know, you can go
00:33:03.820
far with that, right?
00:33:05.840
And so, defend the
00:33:07.000
Mormon community.
00:33:08.120
I like that.
00:33:08.980
But yeah, I do think
00:33:09.700
that it is uniquely
00:33:10.860
susceptible to a lot of
00:33:12.260
it.
00:33:12.840
So anyway, one, I
00:33:14.640
think it's not about
00:33:15.720
generic online
00:33:16.460
communities.
00:33:17.120
It's about one online
00:33:18.900
community.
00:33:19.720
And generic online
00:33:20.740
communities do not
00:33:22.060
radicalize people into
00:33:23.260
killers that frequently.
00:33:24.660
Like, we've noticed
00:33:25.440
it's actually been pretty
00:33:26.420
weird that there are
00:33:27.320
not more incel
00:33:28.000
shooters, right?
00:33:29.020
When you look at the
00:33:29.860
rates of violence you
00:33:31.540
would expect from this
00:33:32.220
community.
00:33:32.540
You have a whole
00:33:33.220
podcast on it, yeah.
00:33:34.420
Yeah, we have a whole
00:33:34.980
podcast on it.
00:33:35.580
But it's one of the
00:33:37.180
only ideologies that
00:33:38.740
can convince people
00:33:40.180
that by disagreeing
00:33:41.420
with them, you're
00:33:41.920
murdering people.
00:33:43.660
Like, Antifa genuinely
00:33:45.320
believes, and you can
00:33:46.020
see this on his shells
00:33:47.880
and everything like
00:33:48.380
that, that mainstream
00:33:49.980
boomer conservatism is
00:33:51.100
fascism.
00:33:52.020
They genuinely believe
00:33:53.680
that Trump is a
00:33:54.560
fascist.
00:33:55.060
They genuinely, like,
00:33:56.500
even though I was
00:33:57.480
like, whatever you
00:33:59.080
bring up, you know,
00:34:00.000
that Trump was a
00:34:00.680
felon for, like,
00:34:01.400
obviously trumped up
00:34:02.440
charges.
00:34:03.160
Again, like, what
00:34:04.180
specifically did he get
00:34:05.140
the felony for, for
00:34:05.860
not disclosing his
00:34:07.500
prostitute payments in
00:34:09.080
his tax filings, which
00:34:10.600
is not a felony,
00:34:12.860
unless you count it in
00:34:14.640
a certain way.
00:34:15.040
It's really, you can
00:34:15.720
go to our episode,
00:34:16.260
we've gone deeper on
00:34:16.920
this, but it's a bit
00:34:18.000
like being like, oh,
00:34:19.080
yeah, when somebody's
00:34:20.040
like, Nelson Mandela,
00:34:21.680
known felon.
00:34:22.920
And it's like, well,
00:34:23.580
wasn't he a political
00:34:24.500
prisoner?
00:34:25.240
Like, that doesn't
00:34:26.280
exactly make me trust
00:34:27.360
him less.
00:34:28.880
I love it.
00:34:29.860
People were freaking
00:34:30.900
out that we had
00:34:31.380
made this comparison
00:34:32.060
in one of our
00:34:32.520
previous episodes,
00:34:33.300
and it's like, they
00:34:34.800
were like, well,
00:34:35.340
Trump's an excellent,
00:34:36.400
like, a, a, a
00:34:37.780
grapist, and a
00:34:38.860
something, and a
00:34:39.800
something, and I'm
00:34:40.320
like, I, I disagree
00:34:42.400
on those points.
00:34:43.360
Like, you assume that
00:34:44.860
I live in this world
00:34:46.380
that you live in,
00:34:47.380
where you believe every
00:34:48.640
negative accusation
00:34:49.680
that's made about
00:34:50.400
right-wing figures in
00:34:51.360
the media, and me,
00:34:52.760
as a right-wing figure
00:34:53.740
in the media, knows
00:34:54.920
that the media just
00:34:55.880
makes stuff up all
00:34:57.020
the time, and it's
00:34:57.840
important that you do
00:34:58.680
your own research on
00:34:59.660
this stuff.
00:35:00.100
And so you just
00:35:01.160
further unjustly
00:35:03.260
victimize an
00:35:04.080
individual, making me
00:35:05.780
further sympathetic
00:35:06.980
to them, and not
00:35:08.360
just me, but other
00:35:09.360
people like me, when
00:35:10.440
you do these sorts of
00:35:11.440
spurious accusations.
00:35:13.240
But the point here
00:35:14.200
being is because they
00:35:15.300
have developed an
00:35:16.180
ideology, which isn't
00:35:17.700
true for most online
00:35:18.480
ideologies, that
00:35:19.600
frames anyone as
00:35:20.540
disagreed with them
00:35:21.680
as murdering them, or
00:35:23.040
as killing them, or as
00:35:24.600
genociding them, they
00:35:26.000
now have a moral
00:35:27.720
license to, like,
00:35:30.280
bike lock Antifa
00:35:31.160
guy, right?
00:35:31.940
Like, I think that
00:35:32.540
this is, and we'll do
00:35:33.160
a separate episode on
00:35:33.980
trans Tifa, I think
00:35:35.160
this is, like, a
00:35:35.620
broader thing.
00:35:36.140
It's not, like, just
00:35:36.880
the trans movement.
00:35:38.420
It's a part of the
00:35:38.960
trans movement that's
00:35:39.600
been co-opted by
00:35:40.360
Antifa, and it's sort
00:35:41.760
of merged with Antifa
00:35:42.840
into this wider, I
00:35:44.300
have a moral license
00:35:45.280
to murder people with
00:35:47.240
mainstream political
00:35:48.100
beliefs because I
00:35:48.820
disagree with them.
00:35:50.680
Yeah.
00:35:51.660
And this has become a
00:35:52.740
normative belief system.
00:35:54.100
Like, you literally, you
00:35:55.620
would not see, if a
00:35:56.660
leftist figure was,
00:35:57.640
like, murdered in
00:35:58.600
front of his family,
00:35:59.460
you might see some,
00:36:00.540
like, crazy online
00:36:01.820
right-wing people
00:36:02.440
celebrating it, right?
00:36:03.840
A hundred percent.
00:36:04.780
But you wouldn't see
00:36:05.500
them jumping in the
00:36:06.420
crowd celebrating while
00:36:08.120
watching it happen,
00:36:09.040
which we literally,
00:36:09.980
you know, have
00:36:10.500
pictures of from this
00:36:12.060
event, right?
00:36:13.040
And you wouldn't see
00:36:14.820
tons of, so to just
00:36:16.760
go through a few of,
00:36:17.600
because there was,
00:36:17.980
like, 30 instances of
00:36:19.520
teachers being fired
00:36:20.320
for this.
00:36:20.920
And keep in mind,
00:36:21.400
these are people who
00:36:21.960
are teaching your kids.
00:36:23.720
Like, you might be,
00:36:24.360
like, oh, they were
00:36:24.900
fired for saying this,
00:36:25.900
that that's good.
00:36:26.920
And it's like, what
00:36:28.380
were they saying to
00:36:29.160
the kids before this?
00:36:31.440
Right?
00:36:31.860
And what about the
00:36:32.320
ones that were smart
00:36:33.000
enough to do this on
00:36:33.900
an alt account?
00:36:36.160
Right?
00:36:36.440
So, high school
00:36:38.440
teacher, Greenville
00:36:39.280
County School District,
00:36:40.260
South Carolina,
00:36:41.440
Ryan Bullock, was
00:36:42.560
fired after posting on
00:36:43.520
Facebook, quote,
00:36:44.720
thoughts and prayers
00:36:45.400
to his children, but
00:36:46.240
in my opinion,
00:36:47.480
America became
00:36:48.720
greater today.
00:36:49.720
There, I said it.
00:36:50.560
Then, assistant cheer
00:36:51.880
coach, Meridian High
00:36:52.820
School, Idaho, said,
00:36:55.000
you effing got what
00:36:56.280
you effing deserve.
00:36:57.580
I just saw the
00:36:58.560
effing video.
00:36:59.920
It looks like you got
00:37:00.900
shot in the neck or
00:37:01.840
chest.
00:37:02.920
I'm not saying I wish
00:37:04.280
deaths upon someone,
00:37:05.360
but that's what I'm
00:37:06.660
effing saying for this
00:37:07.980
mother effer.
00:37:09.700
Piece of effing
00:37:10.620
S.
00:37:11.740
I hope he's dead.
00:37:13.200
She then added,
00:37:14.360
oh, I hope he's not
00:37:15.320
dead.
00:37:15.980
Oh, oh, pray for
00:37:17.100
Charlie Kirk.
00:37:17.740
Oh, oh.
00:37:18.660
And then later noted,
00:37:20.000
no, he didn't deserve
00:37:20.980
to be violently killed
00:37:21.840
by that, blah, blah,
00:37:22.680
blah, blah.
00:37:23.420
But this is the thing.
00:37:24.880
Like, they believe that
00:37:26.020
this individual, like,
00:37:26.840
they'll be like, oh,
00:37:27.260
he was a racist.
00:37:28.660
And I'm like, proof he
00:37:29.680
was a racist, right?
00:37:30.940
And they'll be like,
00:37:31.500
well, he said he was
00:37:32.480
worried about when he
00:37:33.600
saw, like, black pilots,
00:37:34.680
right, like, on his
00:37:35.340
flight, right?
00:37:36.200
And given the current
00:37:37.260
DII practices.
00:37:38.160
And I'm like, anybody
00:37:39.100
who's aware, look at
00:37:40.060
our video of the
00:37:40.720
American Chernobyl is
00:37:42.020
going to happen with,
00:37:43.020
like, the TFA
00:37:43.580
explicitly asking in
00:37:46.000
their test to try to
00:37:47.340
hire more black
00:37:48.060
people because they
00:37:48.700
were the actual
00:37:49.500
racist, and then
00:37:50.540
having the correct
00:37:51.280
answer on the test
00:37:51.900
being that you don't
00:37:52.660
like science and you
00:37:53.360
don't take directions
00:37:54.260
well, because they
00:37:55.220
thought that's the way
00:37:55.820
black people answered.
00:37:56.800
Like, that's going to
00:37:57.440
lead to bad people in
00:37:59.080
flying capacity.
00:38:01.040
I can see why-
00:38:01.760
Things are also just
00:38:02.500
being taken so widely
00:38:03.900
out of context.
00:38:05.020
Another prominent
00:38:05.720
example is Stephen
00:38:07.260
King subsequently
00:38:08.260
apologizing for tweeting
00:38:10.680
after he was shot.
00:38:12.780
He believed gays
00:38:13.880
should be stoned to
00:38:14.720
death, by the way,
00:38:16.160
or just FYI.
00:38:17.180
And really, he was
00:38:18.600
apparently responding
00:38:20.020
to Miss Rachel, you
00:38:22.140
know, the really
00:38:22.860
prominent kids show,
00:38:25.880
like, content producer,
00:38:27.400
referring to the Bible's
00:38:28.880
love thy neighbor thing,
00:38:30.440
you know, in terms of,
00:38:31.340
like, how we need to be
00:38:32.300
kinder to people.
00:38:33.360
She's a very prominent
00:38:34.120
sort of help kids in
00:38:35.720
Palestine fundraiser, and
00:38:37.840
that has caught her, you
00:38:39.400
know, sort of in the
00:38:40.160
middle of political
00:38:40.860
crosshairs.
00:38:42.440
And I think in that
00:38:43.540
context, Charlie Kirk
00:38:44.620
pointed out, well, you
00:38:46.420
know, the Bible also
00:38:47.540
says that gays should be
00:38:48.640
stoned to death, just so
00:38:50.080
you know.
00:38:50.900
And then that was turned
00:38:52.600
into, Charlie Kirk
00:38:54.480
thinks gays should be
00:38:55.660
stoned to death, which is
00:38:56.880
so widely.
00:38:57.680
Like, he's just being
00:38:58.620
reasonable.
00:38:59.140
Like, he wasn't actually
00:39:00.260
any-
00:39:00.540
The other one is, like,
00:39:01.760
the MLK one.
00:39:02.560
Oh, he says MLK was a
00:39:04.040
bad-
00:39:04.160
MLK was a serial
00:39:05.320
adulterer.
00:39:05.920
Like, we know this now.
00:39:07.440
He cheated with friends
00:39:09.660
who were in the clergy
00:39:10.600
with him, spouses.
00:39:12.440
Like, he-
00:39:14.140
There's problems with
00:39:15.620
MLK.
00:39:16.140
MLK doesn't have the
00:39:17.700
spotless record Charlie
00:39:18.900
Kirk does.
00:39:19.780
You know, I hate to say
00:39:20.960
it, but it's just true.
00:39:22.360
You can look at the
00:39:22.940
video we did with
00:39:24.260
Curtis Yarvin on MLK's,
00:39:25.820
you know, association
00:39:27.140
with communists.
00:39:28.740
And communists, you
00:39:30.280
know, kill way more
00:39:31.340
people than racists ever
00:39:32.540
did.
00:39:32.980
If you're surprised by
00:39:34.040
this claim, then you're
00:39:35.220
like, that can't be
00:39:36.280
true.
00:39:36.720
What about, like, the
00:39:37.340
entire slave trade?
00:39:38.800
If you look at, and it
00:39:40.040
depends on the numbers
00:39:40.780
that you're looking at,
00:39:41.580
but based on some of the
00:39:43.340
numbers that are held by
00:39:44.620
mainstream academics, if
00:39:46.140
you look at the entire
00:39:47.020
number of people who
00:39:47.780
died over the course of
00:39:48.760
the entire transatlantic
00:39:50.800
slave trade, that number
00:39:52.720
would be about equivalent
00:39:53.800
to just the people who
00:39:55.520
died in just the five
00:39:57.280
years of China's great
00:39:58.840
leap forward.
00:39:59.660
Right?
00:39:59.900
So, like, let's talk
00:40:01.160
about, like, evil
00:40:02.220
ideologies here.
00:40:03.180
I would say that if
00:40:04.020
Charlie Kirk was
00:40:04.600
actually, like,
00:40:05.140
associated and working
00:40:05.920
with, like, mainstream
00:40:06.600
racists, that's probably
00:40:07.880
the equivalent of
00:40:08.500
working with mainstream
00:40:09.000
racists.
00:40:09.160
This is the thing when
00:40:09.840
everyone's like, oh, he
00:40:11.380
met with a Nazi, or, you
00:40:13.080
know, he said a Nazi
00:40:13.960
thing, and I'm like,
00:40:14.700
well, you have communists
00:40:15.740
at your rallies.
00:40:16.480
Like, communists killed
00:40:17.180
way more people than
00:40:18.660
Nazis killed.
00:40:19.660
Like, what are you, what
00:40:21.640
is this, like, why are
00:40:22.840
we supposed to be freaked
00:40:23.660
out about associating with
00:40:24.680
Nazis and not freaked out
00:40:26.020
about associating with
00:40:26.740
communists?
00:40:27.420
It's like, oh, yeah,
00:40:28.360
because you control the
00:40:29.160
academic institutions and
00:40:30.220
media, and you get to
00:40:31.440
control which groups are
00:40:33.260
the groups we're allowed
00:40:34.080
to associate with and
00:40:34.900
not associate with, or
00:40:35.900
the ideas we're allowed
00:40:36.940
to flirt with and not
00:40:37.840
flirt with, right?
00:40:39.440
Which, just, just
00:40:41.240
disgusting, but
00:40:42.060
good point.
00:40:43.500
Anyway, to continue here,
00:40:44.920
we got a school teacher
00:40:45.720
in Oregon who said that
00:40:47.340
learning of this guy's
00:40:48.740
death in front of his
00:40:49.460
kids brightened up his
00:40:50.320
day.
00:40:51.160
You had somebody in
00:40:53.080
Wisconsin, a teacher, be
00:40:54.720
put on leave for saying
00:40:55.700
he was a racist,
00:40:56.440
xenophobic, transphobic,
00:40:57.780
Islamophobic, sexist,
00:40:59.320
white nationalist, mouse
00:41:00.920
piece who made millions
00:41:01.960
of dollars inciting hatred
00:41:04.260
in this country, which he
00:41:05.960
wasn't most of those
00:41:07.060
things.
00:41:07.940
Like, if you actually look
00:41:08.880
at his stuff, he
00:41:09.960
believed, his views on
00:41:11.820
gays were the Bible's
00:41:13.440
views on gays, okay?
00:41:14.620
Or at least mainstream
00:41:16.200
evangelical interpretations
00:41:17.380
of the Bible's views of
00:41:18.280
gays.
00:41:18.640
So if you're saying he's
00:41:20.240
homophobic, you're saying
00:41:21.660
no one is allowed to have
00:41:23.320
mainstream evangelical
00:41:25.520
religious beliefs.
00:41:26.660
Like, that's an entire
00:41:27.380
religion that you're like,
00:41:29.200
you're not allowed to
00:41:29.980
believe, right?
00:41:30.860
Well, I'm hearing his
00:41:31.540
arguments against trans
00:41:32.880
people who are actively
00:41:33.800
debating him at his
00:41:34.880
college events.
00:41:36.020
Like, you know, why is it
00:41:38.380
not okay for me to ask to
00:41:39.760
be called by my gender?
00:41:42.180
His arguments seemed
00:41:42.980
really close to ours,
00:41:44.040
really focused around the
00:41:45.000
lack of consent that goes
00:41:46.900
into that.
00:41:48.020
And the fact that you're
00:41:49.820
forcing people to lie and
00:41:52.940
that that's morally very
00:41:54.980
questionable.
00:41:55.220
Well, from their
00:41:55.500
perspective, I mean,
00:41:56.400
different cultures deal
00:41:57.780
with sexual boundaries
00:41:59.460
differently.
00:42:00.200
They deal with consent
00:42:01.700
differently.
00:42:02.900
You know, a great example
00:42:04.240
of this, which I haven't
00:42:05.160
had time to really
00:42:05.820
articulate, but I've sort
00:42:06.660
of been working in my
00:42:07.220
head is, okay, suppose
00:42:08.900
you were going to a
00:42:10.380
native island, right?
00:42:11.960
And you knew that on
00:42:13.140
this native island, if you
00:42:14.860
showed your knees, that
00:42:16.520
was considered like a very
00:42:17.360
sexual thing.
00:42:18.340
And this is true for
00:42:19.320
some cultures, right?
00:42:20.280
Like you would be like an
00:42:23.940
absolute D bag to go like
00:42:26.940
showing your knees, right?
00:42:27.960
Because you're being like,
00:42:29.060
well, within my culture, I
00:42:30.180
can show my knees.
00:42:31.080
And it's like, yeah, but
00:42:31.760
within their culture,
00:42:33.160
especially if you were going
00:42:34.280
to talk to their kids or
00:42:35.700
something, and you knew you
00:42:37.080
were going to talk to their
00:42:37.960
kids, right?
00:42:39.080
Now in our society, if you do
00:42:41.740
something like, because we
00:42:43.600
were at this, this gender
00:42:44.540
service class and somebody is
00:42:46.300
like, well, somebody wanted to
00:42:47.360
dress up and act like a cat in
00:42:48.540
school and it like created
00:42:50.140
anger in me.
00:42:50.820
And like, I don't know why
00:42:51.600
it created anger in me.
00:42:52.760
And now I've like matured
00:42:53.880
past that, you know, because
00:42:54.740
they went to college and
00:42:55.360
were brainwashed.
00:42:56.100
I was like, no, that, that
00:42:56.800
should have created anger in
00:42:57.800
you because within most
00:43:00.180
cultures that live within
00:43:01.360
America, if, if somebody
00:43:03.480
says, I want to dress up and
00:43:05.080
play like a cat, that's
00:43:07.600
sexual role play.
00:43:08.860
That's like a sexual thing,
00:43:10.580
right?
00:43:10.800
Like I've had girls who
00:43:11.780
wanted to do that.
00:43:12.440
Like, cool.
00:43:13.720
Right.
00:43:14.420
But I wouldn't walk them
00:43:15.580
around on like a leash and
00:43:17.000
like a cat and like a public
00:43:18.160
context because everyone
00:43:19.040
would be like, oh, that's
00:43:20.900
a sex thing that they are
00:43:22.640
forcing on me without my
00:43:23.680
consent.
00:43:24.300
Yeah, man.
00:43:24.800
Get a room.
00:43:26.580
Lingerie covers about as
00:43:28.820
much as skimpy mainstream
00:43:31.160
female clothing.
00:43:32.360
But we culturally recognize
00:43:34.680
lingerie as a sexualized
00:43:36.440
outfit and display, right?
00:43:37.960
If you went to a
00:43:40.720
children's book leading
00:43:42.000
dressed in lingerie, you
00:43:43.960
would understand and the
00:43:45.080
audience would understand
00:43:46.140
that within most people's
00:43:47.880
cultures, not within
00:43:48.640
everyone's culture, within
00:43:49.980
most of the attendance
00:43:51.040
cultures, that is a
00:43:52.140
sexualized display that you
00:43:53.360
are subjecting them to
00:43:54.120
without their consent.
00:43:56.100
This is true for not
00:43:58.340
every, like if you're
00:43:59.760
trans and you're totally
00:44:00.720
passing and everything
00:44:01.520
like that, that's
00:44:02.280
generally not a
00:44:03.220
sexualized display.
00:44:04.320
But the way that many
00:44:05.540
people are dressing at
00:44:06.420
like children's book
00:44:07.340
readings is very clearly a
00:44:09.300
sexualized display and an
00:44:10.320
intentional sexualized
00:44:11.260
display.
00:44:11.980
Like everything that
00:44:12.900
Alec Bade Menon does, like
00:44:14.180
the way they dress, is
00:44:16.620
always a sexualized
00:44:17.780
display.
00:44:18.100
It is the equivalent of
00:44:19.920
lingerie, right?
00:44:21.120
And they are subjecting
00:44:22.740
individuals to this
00:44:23.580
without these individuals'
00:44:24.900
consent and knowing that
00:44:25.720
they are from the
00:44:26.720
perspective of those
00:44:27.380
people's parents subjecting
00:44:28.600
the children to a
00:44:29.240
sexualized display.
00:44:30.280
And I think that that's
00:44:31.300
really, really effed up.
00:44:33.000
And I think that that's
00:44:34.160
what we're talking about
00:44:34.860
when we're saying you are
00:44:36.120
defining your culture as
00:44:37.520
having more rights than
00:44:39.200
any other culture.
00:44:40.600
You're basically saying
00:44:41.380
everybody has to adopt
00:44:42.680
my cultural norms.
00:44:44.520
And it's the same with
00:44:45.380
gendery, right?
00:44:46.580
I, when I talk to a
00:44:47.960
Catholic priest, like I
00:44:49.280
may not be Catholic, but
00:44:50.380
I'd still call them
00:44:51.020
father because, you
00:44:52.280
know, they earn that
00:44:53.040
title through their
00:44:53.620
system.
00:44:54.100
But I can understand
00:44:55.140
somebody from a strong
00:44:56.300
other religious background
00:44:57.400
being like, I'm sorry,
00:44:58.720
I just can't call you
00:44:59.440
father because I do not,
00:45:01.060
like you're not my father
00:45:02.080
from my perspective,
00:45:03.040
right?
00:45:04.300
The Catholic priest
00:45:05.060
doesn't say, well, by
00:45:05.780
law, you have to call me
00:45:06.880
father.
00:45:07.240
I'm going to make it so
00:45:07.820
that you have to call me
00:45:08.400
father by law.
00:45:09.220
You have to call me by
00:45:09.740
this title.
00:45:10.200
But the trans community
00:45:11.540
does do that if somebody
00:45:12.780
has a religious objection
00:45:13.740
to this.
00:45:14.740
No, they're like, we will
00:45:15.740
get you fired.
00:45:16.520
We will make this legal.
00:45:18.760
And that's, that is
00:45:19.680
fundamentally a violation
00:45:21.200
of other people's consent,
00:45:22.440
which is really, really
00:45:23.620
bad to force that on
00:45:25.440
people, particularly to
00:45:26.680
force it on children,
00:45:27.740
particularly to defend the
00:45:29.320
people who are forcing
00:45:30.020
it on children.
00:45:31.380
And this is when people
00:45:32.180
being like, well, are you
00:45:33.680
just saying I can't be my
00:45:34.640
identity around children?
00:45:35.720
And it's like, no, like
00:45:37.920
you can, you can interact
00:45:39.240
with children was out
00:45:40.120
wearing a clearly
00:45:41.000
sexualized display.
00:45:42.140
And this is why I use
00:45:43.040
lingerie here, right?
00:45:43.940
Because lingerie, you
00:45:45.720
should be able to wear
00:45:46.620
around children.
00:45:47.200
Like lingerie covers up
00:45:48.580
all your bits.
00:45:49.620
You know what I mean?
00:45:50.140
Like from just like a
00:45:50.980
pure, like I'm following
00:45:52.200
the rules perspective.
00:45:53.320
Oh, like technically
00:45:54.420
speaking.
00:45:55.660
Technically speaking,
00:45:56.540
you're covering up
00:45:57.280
everything you're
00:45:57.820
supposed to be covering
00:45:58.440
up.
00:45:58.980
But like we all
00:46:00.220
understand that you
00:46:01.640
don't wear this in
00:46:02.380
front of kids, right?
00:46:03.380
Because culturally we
00:46:04.480
recognize this as a
00:46:05.240
sexualized display.
00:46:05.920
OK, it's the same for
00:46:07.700
most of the outfits you
00:46:09.740
see at things like
00:46:10.520
children's book
00:46:11.040
readings.
00:46:12.180
And people can be
00:46:13.960
like, well, you don't
00:46:14.780
have a problem with most
00:46:15.700
of the trans community.
00:46:16.200
No, I don't.
00:46:16.760
And this is actually
00:46:17.160
the problem.
00:46:18.560
But the community then
00:46:20.280
defends these individuals
00:46:21.500
and said if you attack
00:46:22.420
these people who are
00:46:23.020
doing sexualized
00:46:23.700
displays around
00:46:25.080
children, you are
00:46:26.220
functionally murdering
00:46:27.340
us.
00:46:27.620
I'm like, OK, one, not
00:46:28.820
true.
00:46:29.240
But two, when you
00:46:30.040
normalize that, then you
00:46:31.020
normalize murder.
00:46:32.220
And so I think if that
00:46:33.380
statement that people need
00:46:34.580
to like freak out and
00:46:35.700
fight back against
00:46:36.760
really strongly, when
00:46:37.940
everyone says you need
00:46:39.080
to respond to them, that
00:46:40.960
type of language is
00:46:42.080
both a lie and leads
00:46:43.620
to people being killed.
00:46:46.080
And that's upstream of
00:46:47.980
all this.
00:46:48.880
This isn't upstream of
00:46:50.100
gun culture.
00:46:50.920
This isn't upstream of
00:46:52.100
I'd even say normal
00:46:54.300
far progressive ideology.
00:46:56.040
This is downstream of
00:46:57.300
the belief that
00:46:58.400
disagreeing with you
00:46:59.680
is killing people.
00:47:00.680
And this is held
00:47:01.280
commonly within like
00:47:02.580
the punch of fascist,
00:47:03.800
within the Antifa
00:47:05.240
community, which I've
00:47:06.320
always found so funny
00:47:07.060
because they're literal
00:47:08.020
black shirts.
00:47:08.860
They're doing what the
00:47:09.740
literal black shirt, i.e.
00:47:11.060
they call themselves
00:47:11.680
black shirts.
00:47:12.280
Antifa calls themselves
00:47:12.900
black shirts.
00:47:13.220
What's a black shirt?
00:47:14.200
Sorry, ignorant.
00:47:15.640
So Antifa is unaware
00:47:17.820
of this, but black shirts
00:47:19.480
are what the brown shirts
00:47:20.700
that the Nazis had were
00:47:21.760
named after.
00:47:22.840
In fascist Italy, where
00:47:24.260
fascism was invented,
00:47:25.980
their common public
00:47:28.240
enforcer were called
00:47:29.360
black shirts.
00:47:30.380
And this is why the
00:47:30.900
Nazis called their
00:47:31.600
enforcers brown shirts.
00:47:32.620
And now Antifa is
00:47:33.840
again calling themselves
00:47:34.780
black shirts, enforcing
00:47:36.340
a fascist ideology that
00:47:37.720
wants to divide humans
00:47:38.740
based on our ethnic
00:47:39.640
group and sexuality
00:47:40.680
and gender.
00:47:42.260
And, you know,
00:47:42.720
fortunately they're all
00:47:43.760
dying out due to their
00:47:44.580
fertility rates, but
00:47:45.460
they're going to try to
00:47:46.360
take a lot of us
00:47:46.960
wisdom on the way.
00:47:47.740
And we need to be ready
00:47:49.180
to call them out as
00:47:52.060
being the equivalent of
00:47:53.520
a murderer whenever
00:47:54.260
they say you are
00:47:56.220
killing people in our
00:47:57.360
community by saying this
00:47:58.440
when we know that's
00:47:59.580
factually untrue.
00:48:00.280
And as we pointed out
00:48:01.160
in our episode, the one
00:48:02.200
about the Atlantic
00:48:03.060
piece where the
00:48:04.640
Atlantic is going
00:48:05.920
against the trans
00:48:06.920
community and argues
00:48:08.220
from a leftist
00:48:09.420
perspective, there is
00:48:10.760
literally zero evidence
00:48:11.940
that this increases the
00:48:12.880
unaliving risk
00:48:13.420
in the community.
00:48:14.100
I think that that's
00:48:14.900
downstream of all the
00:48:15.740
rest of this.
00:48:16.540
I'm not going to read
00:48:17.340
more teachers saying
00:48:18.120
stuff because you guys
00:48:19.180
know that people are
00:48:19.980
doing this.
00:48:20.400
You know there's like
00:48:21.040
25 instances of this.
00:48:23.180
This is mainstream
00:48:24.100
was in our school system
00:48:25.240
and these are just the
00:48:26.220
ones dumb enough to
00:48:26.920
post with their own.
00:48:27.820
You know who are
00:48:29.000
celebrating the
00:48:30.300
severe undermining
00:48:32.660
possibly for the time
00:48:35.000
being downfall of open
00:48:36.720
public discourse in the
00:48:38.080
United States.
00:48:38.900
Yeah that's what he
00:48:39.360
represented and I think
00:48:41.200
that that's why I get so
00:48:42.780
angry when people on the
00:48:44.060
right are like we should
00:48:45.660
never violate the law
00:48:48.040
and you know kill
00:48:51.040
someone right because
00:48:52.700
it's like well you're
00:48:55.000
also saying but we're
00:48:56.420
headed towards civil war
00:48:57.520
which means you don't
00:48:58.240
believe that say what
00:48:59.760
you believe which is
00:49:00.900
that you only do
00:49:03.480
something like this when
00:49:04.760
somebody is in the
00:49:06.520
process of like a mass
00:49:07.440
murder and legal
00:49:08.160
solutions don't happen
00:49:09.140
matter or work so when
00:49:11.300
you are net saving
00:49:12.520
lives and that's why I
00:49:13.900
get so angry by these
00:49:14.840
people being like oh
00:49:15.560
you never violate the
00:49:16.460
law no you violate the
00:49:17.260
law when the law is
00:49:18.280
going to leave like you
00:49:19.540
have to be aware you
00:49:20.340
can't talk about
00:49:21.300
revolutions on one side
00:49:22.280
of your mouth and then
00:49:23.280
talk about always
00:49:24.660
following the law from
00:49:25.520
the other side of your
00:49:26.080
mouth you need to call
00:49:26.720
out what the actual
00:49:27.320
problem here is
00:49:28.260
anyway any final
00:49:30.600
thoughts Simone
00:49:31.100
this is dark and
00:49:33.360
depressing I just
00:49:34.400
I yeah I hoped that
00:49:38.900
we were better than
00:49:40.440
this and we're not
00:49:42.660
but I hope that what
00:49:45.620
we'll see as a result
00:49:47.740
of this is people
00:49:49.580
nevertheless rising
00:49:50.720
above and finding
00:49:51.600
creative ways to fight
00:49:53.900
for the same thing that
00:49:55.340
Kirk was fighting for
00:49:56.640
which is open
00:49:57.480
discourse and exchange
00:49:58.780
of ideas I still
00:50:00.620
think that there are
00:50:01.220
ways forward with
00:50:02.560
greater caution
00:50:03.460
obviously and I hope
00:50:04.700
that people stepped up
00:50:05.860
step up to pursue
00:50:07.080
them yep all right
00:50:09.320
love you Simone have a
00:50:10.600
spectacular day you
00:50:13.040
too dark times but we
00:50:15.980
get to see our kids
00:50:16.600
soon so there's that
00:50:17.780
yeah well people were
00:50:19.820
remarking in the other
00:50:20.440
video that you were
00:50:21.060
crying at the Charlie
00:50:21.800
Kirk assassination but I
00:50:22.940
like demanded no crying
00:50:23.980
when my mom died Simone
00:50:25.140
cried when my mom died I
00:50:26.360
didn't cry did I cry I
00:50:28.520
seem to remember you
00:50:29.200
crying a couple times a
00:50:30.560
little bit but you were
00:50:31.380
trying to hold it in
00:50:32.000
because you could see that
00:50:32.520
I was holding it in and I
00:50:33.720
think that made you feel
00:50:34.480
like you didn't have the
00:50:35.920
right to yeah what again
00:50:39.660
my weak spot is anything
00:50:42.180
bad happening to kids
00:50:43.720
especially and knowing he
00:50:45.440
has a wife and two young
00:50:46.880
kids I yeah I mean
00:50:48.700
just no actually they
00:50:50.820
weren't there thank god
00:50:51.660
they were that was yeah
00:50:52.480
misreported widely
00:50:54.080
misreported but yeah
00:50:56.100
thank thank goodness they
00:50:58.140
were not physically
00:50:58.780
present that doesn't
00:50:59.920
change the fact that they
00:51:00.780
are very likely going to
00:51:01.700
see that footage again and
00:51:02.640
again throughout their
00:51:03.280
lives and that deficits
00:51:04.780
me oh I bet people are
00:51:06.100
sending it to them
00:51:06.800
regularly I mean you know
00:51:07.700
how progressives are
00:51:08.420
well they're they're too
00:51:09.160
they're too young now to
00:51:10.480
be exposed I mean it's
00:51:11.220
like I think they're three
00:51:12.000
in one but yeah okay
00:51:13.320
great well thanks now I'm
00:51:14.460
crying again so you should
00:51:16.120
reach out to his wife we'll
00:51:16.840
put them in our marriage
00:51:17.680
network seem like good
00:51:19.240
people yeah they're
00:51:20.920
amazing people anyway
00:51:22.280
yeah okay love you
00:51:23.420
Simone bye I love you
00:51:24.440
too okay for the yeah
00:51:29.580
I'm thrilled that we've
00:51:31.020
Diasmon golded your room
00:51:32.360
I'm really proud of it
00:51:33.380
oh your mic isn't plugged
00:51:36.160
in oh yeah see look at
00:51:39.020
that the I could walk on
00:51:40.540
the floor I can walk on
00:51:42.960
the floor it's incredible
00:51:44.100
yeah but I can't I can't
00:51:46.520
hear anything you're
00:51:47.060
saying
00:51:47.340
your mic still isn't
00:51:52.760
plugged in
00:51:53.280
hey can you hear me
00:51:54.800
yeah no I can
00:51:55.680
it's amazing
00:51:57.280
I love this and I love
00:52:00.200
that reality fabric
00:52:01.500
for caterers is mostly
00:52:02.460
working I was checking
00:52:03.360
the logic on the not
00:52:04.160
safe for work story
00:52:04.940
generator and it needs a
00:52:06.520
significant overhead
00:52:07.680
overhaul so I'm gonna try
00:52:09.100
to get that handled by the
00:52:10.440
end of this week
00:52:10.940
what seems to be
00:52:11.700
breaking
00:52:12.100
what so the logic that
00:52:15.260
it's using when I was
00:52:16.280
originally creating it it
00:52:17.540
was difficult because it
00:52:18.680
kept not wanting to do not
00:52:20.180
safe for work anything
00:52:20.960
right this was the coding
00:52:22.640
apps not the apps that we
00:52:23.820
have running the AI in it
00:52:24.800
which are meant for not
00:52:25.700
safe for work but they're
00:52:26.480
not good at coding anyway so
00:52:28.840
it wrote a lot of the
00:52:29.980
back end assuming like full
00:52:31.480
stories instead of specific
00:52:33.000
not safe for work world
00:52:34.100
play scenarios so we are
00:52:37.640
gusting enough to work
00:52:38.800
better with just creating
00:52:39.980
scenarios for not safe for
00:52:41.120
work stuff and better
00:52:42.580
seeing and interpreting
00:52:44.380
what the user wants from
00:52:45.940
those scenarios because
00:52:47.400
right now it's just too
00:52:48.100
much of a generic adventure
00:52:49.120
creator with a bunch of
00:52:50.300
like fluff in the
00:52:51.540
creation process that it
00:52:52.580
doesn't really need so it
00:52:54.480
will be able to create
00:52:55.220
your wildest fantasies
00:52:56.480
with just a few clicks and
00:52:58.140
then you get to select the
00:52:59.160
one that you want most
00:53:00.120
my favorite thing about the
00:53:02.320
NSFW section is there's a
00:53:04.620
checklist like if you
00:53:05.540
don't immediately have some
00:53:06.620
fantasy you want to
00:53:07.380
create you can just go
00:53:09.160
check off everything that
00:53:10.340
might potentially turn you
00:53:11.960
on and I don't like it
00:53:13.640
just from a perspective of
00:53:14.680
like okay I know these are
00:53:15.780
my kinks or fetishes or
00:53:17.780
whatever but like maybe you
00:53:20.200
don't there were things in
00:53:21.920
there that I'd never heard
00:53:22.740
of before and we wrote a
00:53:23.820
book on sexuality together
00:53:25.060
but if you're like well
00:53:26.100
maybe in her blog
00:53:28.020
knowingless Ayla for
00:53:29.520
example had talked about
00:53:30.620
you know a lot of women
00:53:32.200
don't realize for example
00:53:33.380
that they're into BDSM and
00:53:34.580
they'll live huge portions of
00:53:36.120
their lives not getting any
00:53:37.420
satisfaction from sex and
00:53:38.600
then they suddenly discover
00:53:39.400
the power dynamics make it
00:53:41.380
for them and they're like
00:53:42.560
whoa I actually relate to
00:53:44.220
like sex and I think this
00:53:46.500
is a really great low stakes
00:53:47.980
way to explore stuff that
00:53:50.480
you may you may have no idea
00:53:53.060
turns you on or not like in
00:53:55.380
terms of just our kids
00:53:56.440
exploring their sexuality in a
00:53:58.120
safe way I know it's really
00:54:01.140
bad to like you can have
00:54:02.540
no I've been in a stepped up
00:54:03.800
yeah I agree for this yeah
00:54:05.600
to give people an a a sort
00:54:08.740
of non-human outlet to
00:54:11.080
relieve sexual impulses and
00:54:13.920
explore and explore you know
00:54:15.520
because then you know if it's
00:54:18.180
if it's good at handling those
00:54:19.840
then you don't need to do you
00:54:21.740
know human stuff right which is
00:54:25.100
yeah human stuff like for
00:54:27.060
example I've seen some people
00:54:28.220
who have like kinks and they
00:54:29.520
like demand that they find a
00:54:31.580
husband or wife that matches
00:54:32.660
their kinks and I'm like no
00:54:34.740
don't don't do that your
00:54:36.360
kinks are rare like and it's
00:54:38.180
gonna have very little to do
00:54:39.260
with your relationship do that
00:54:40.360
with like an AI or something
00:54:41.480
right like don't don't rope
00:54:44.240
your human wife or husband
00:54:46.440
into this yeah that's this
00:54:48.380
incredibly niche thing that
00:54:49.780
has like nothing to do with
00:54:50.800
your personality yeah just
00:54:52.040
think of the number of
00:54:52.920
relationships that will be
00:54:54.000
saved because people have a
00:54:56.240
different outlet than putting
00:54:57.260
their entire same marriage on
00:54:59.780
the line because they want
00:55:01.740
greater sexual satisfaction
00:55:03.400
yeah it's it's wonderful it's
00:55:06.100
a thing of beauty well we'll
00:55:07.720
see I mean the adventure
00:55:08.580
creator part of the AI is
00:55:09.780
working great right now so if
00:55:10.920
you want to if you want to
00:55:11.620
play adventures we got some
00:55:12.820
great scenarios on there all
00:55:14.000
that's working if you want to
00:55:15.360
experiment with like multiple
00:55:16.260
AIs talking to each other so
00:55:17.940
like suppose you wrote a
00:55:18.980
document and you're like I
00:55:20.220
don't want to know like what
00:55:21.240
one AI would have to say about
00:55:22.500
this I want to know like what
00:55:23.620
conversation multiple AIs
00:55:24.960
would have about this we have a
00:55:26.460
feature of the AI lab that
00:55:27.540
lets you do that which I
00:55:28.420
haven't seen anyone else
00:55:29.120
offer so I think it's pretty
00:55:29.920
fun anyway I what did
00:55:32.640
people say on the episode
00:55:33.600
today about China women and
00:55:35.620
dating the biggest thing that
00:55:37.760
we missed which I really
00:55:39.300
appreciate people pointing
00:55:40.560
out a couple people pointed
00:55:41.660
this out as as you saw too in
00:55:43.420
the comments was that single
00:55:46.560
women or women in China in
00:55:49.640
general have basically been
00:55:50.740
raised as only children spoiled
00:55:52.560
brats and also because of the
00:55:54.600
gender difference the fact that
00:55:56.580
there are many more men
00:55:58.180
millions more men than women
00:55:59.760
to have just wildly
00:56:01.740
unrealistic expectations like
00:56:03.220
you are a rare you are a
00:56:05.280
little princess like you
00:56:06.720
deserve everything and there
00:56:08.500
was this one I read about
00:56:10.280
this and or heard about this
00:56:11.280
in another podcast called
00:56:12.620
textury by this great
00:56:13.780
youtuber you all should check
00:56:15.520
her out if you're a girl I
00:56:17.200
guess that goes through
00:56:18.160
historical texts in a kind of
00:56:19.620
gossipy way but it she she
00:56:21.880
read excerpts from this one
00:56:23.780
like Victorian writers advice
00:56:25.680
on who to marry as a man or
00:56:27.140
a woman he had separate books
00:56:28.220
for each but in each he
00:56:29.840
warned against marrying
00:56:31.680
anyone who was a single
00:56:32.680
child like because their
00:56:34.020
parents were failures sort of
00:56:35.980
genetically like they're
00:56:37.360
unfit as it is and and
00:56:38.700
probably they've been raised
00:56:39.880
to be really selfish and I
00:56:41.300
feel like obviously I'm I'm
00:56:43.280
one of the single child
00:56:44.120
created like a whole
00:56:44.940
generation of that yeah
00:56:46.420
that's the thing though is
00:56:47.580
is like there is truth to
00:56:49.300
what this guy said and you're
00:56:51.780
a single child I know and
00:56:54.520
look at what you've had to
00:56:55.280
put up with you you have
00:56:57.500
two half siblings so not
00:56:58.720
really and I planned on
00:56:59.880
never getting married either
00:57:00.680
because I was too spoiled and
00:57:02.400
didn't want to compromise on
00:57:03.460
anything so compromise ish
00:57:07.100
no I'm sorry there's another
00:57:09.780
point I wanted to get to
00:57:10.500
there that was interesting
00:57:11.400
what were we talking about
00:57:12.320
I mean the only common
00:57:13.380
comment on the women in
00:57:15.740
China episode is like this
00:57:17.200
ain't just a woman in China
00:57:18.380
oh yeah women everywhere
00:57:19.900
I mean people don't realize
00:57:22.180
how big this is so when we
00:57:23.980
talk about China's low
00:57:25.200
fertility rate right you
00:57:27.420
know we're looking at the
00:57:28.220
fertility rate of people who
00:57:29.900
are already married right
00:57:30.900
usually speaking especially in
00:57:32.300
a Chinese context and if the
00:57:35.020
marriage rate has halved from
00:57:37.540
2013 till today the very
00:57:40.220
recent time window that means
00:57:42.400
we're probably not seeing the
00:57:44.080
impact of that in the
00:57:45.220
fertility rate yet so we are
00:57:48.720
looking to see the fertility
00:57:49.960
rate drop even more
00:57:51.140
dramatically going forwards
00:57:52.360
outlook not good says eight
00:57:55.880
ball
00:57:56.160
oh it's bad it is so bad all
00:58:02.160
right I'll get started here
00:58:04.000
why can't you stop dancing
00:58:07.160
I just hear a beat my body is
00:58:11.480
hearing the beat wait you can't
00:58:16.140
stop dancing you can't stop
00:58:16.340
dancing because my because I
00:58:19.100
because my body can still hear
00:58:22.300
the beat but there's no music
00:58:24.900
playing my friend there is I'm
00:58:28.280
not telling that there's music oh
00:58:31.360
it's like in your head yeah so I
00:58:34.920
can't stop dancing but you're a
00:58:38.320
really good dancer what does the
00:58:42.600
music sound like oh yeah oh yeah
00:58:54.360
I'm dancing to the beat I'm
00:58:56.960
dancing I'm dancing I'm dancing to
00:58:59.600
the beat yeah yeah yeah is that the
00:59:02.480
song
00:59:02.600
yeah
00:59:03.600
there's zombies there's zombies
00:59:06.600
there's zombies that's the one
00:59:07.840
whoa whoa whoa
00:59:09.600
I'm gonna go
00:59:10.600
oh
00:59:11.600
oh
00:59:12.600
oh did you dance to so much you
00:59:15.280
pass out oh the beat broke in your
00:59:35.040
head
00:59:37.040
yeah
00:59:38.040
yeah
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I just know the froggy I just heurecly
00:59:40.640
yeah
00:59:40.880
I just saw the doggy
00:59:42.320
yeah
00:59:42.960
yeah
00:59:43.380
yeah
00:59:44.360
yeah
00:59:45.020
yeah
00:59:45.960
I just saw the froggy, I just
00:59:47.540
saw the froggy I just saw the doggy
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I swear I just saw the froggy I
00:59:49.820
swear I just saw the froggy però
00:59:52.560
I swear I just saw the froggy
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mesmer Ayenne I just saw the froggy
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