Based Camp - Evidence of Trans Community's Involvement in Charlie Kirk Killing

00:00:00.000 So in Steam group that was titled Read This If You're Gay,

00:00:03.520 which was like for like memes and stuff.

00:00:05.520 Oh, so is that what that one bullet engraving was? 0.99

00:00:08.200 If you're reading this, you are gay. 0.99

00:00:10.600 Oh yeah, he mentioned the Steam group in the bullet. 1.00

00:00:13.640 I hadn't even noticed that. 1.00

00:00:14.620 If you're reading this, you are gay, lol. 1.00

00:00:15.940 Something like that. 0.99

00:00:16.640 They're described as a radical far left trans individual

00:00:18.860 posted, quote, you guys, I have something big,

00:00:21.660 big in all caps, coming soon.

00:00:23.780 Just be sure to check the news.

00:00:25.400 You'll know it when you see it, end quote.

00:00:27.120 Immediately after the shooting, they quote tweeted

00:00:31.100 that other quote saying something big's about to happen

00:00:34.580 saying, well, that's that.

00:00:37.900 So was Sky Valadez, trans as well,

00:00:41.940 released a song a few months before this

00:00:44.680 titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31.

00:00:48.180 And then they released a song titled

00:00:49.940 Charlie Kirk's death isn't enough for me.

00:00:52.260 We'll be going over the individual who said

00:00:54.060 September 10th is going to be a very interesting day.

00:00:56.120 And then I plead the fifth.

00:00:57.380 The person who said, Charlie Kirk doesn't know

00:00:59.720 what's going to happen tomorrow.

00:01:01.420 The person who said, wouldn't it be funny

00:01:03.400 if someone shot Charlie Kirk on September 10th?

00:01:05.900 If it is true that a large number of trans individuals 0.99

00:01:08.840 were aware of this attack before it happened,

00:01:11.840 that's something we need to introduce

00:01:13.820 into the public conversation.

00:01:15.780 This wouldn't be the first trans murder cult 1.00

00:01:17.800 that we've talked about on this show. 0.61

00:01:19.280 Look at the Zizians. 1.00

00:01:20.460 But if trans murder cults are becoming a thing,

00:01:22.660 that's something we need to be talking about.

00:01:24.920 Would you like to know more?

00:01:26.660 Hello, Simone. 0.69

00:01:27.780 I'm excited to be here with you today.

00:01:29.700 Today, we are going to be talking about

00:01:32.680 a number of things related to the Charlie Kirk assassination.

00:01:36.200 I'm not excited about the assassination.

00:01:37.520 I already had the day where I said,

00:01:38.520 I'm not excited to be here with you today

00:01:39.740 because we were talking about that specifically.

00:01:42.260 And that's not what we're talking about today.

00:01:44.640 Today, we're going to talk about a few areas.

00:01:46.640 One, we are going to be talking about

00:01:48.760 a couple of convergent phenomenons

00:01:50.580 that are worth unpacking,

00:01:51.380 which is the huge array of people

00:01:53.840 who with their public accounts

00:01:55.820 are going out and saying,

00:01:58.600 I am glad that this happened.

00:02:01.620 I am glad that this person was killed

00:02:03.120 because of their, you know, very,

00:02:04.780 if you look at his actual beliefs,

00:02:06.020 instead of like the random out of context quotes

00:02:08.760 that you'll get from leftists,

00:02:10.140 he's just boomer conservative.

00:02:12.100 He's not new, right?

00:02:13.040 But he's very generic boomer conservative.

00:02:15.380 And these people are saying-

00:02:16.160 No, I would say he's even more open than that.

00:02:18.540 Or maybe hippie boomer conservative, yeah.

00:02:20.680 Hippie boomer conservative, yeah.

00:02:22.100 He is, if you're like, 1.00

00:02:23.720 I think people with those beliefs should be killed 1.00

00:02:26.560 because that's what you're saying. 1.00

00:02:27.820 Then you'd think most centrists in America 1.00

00:02:29.600 who are Christian should be killed, basically. 1.00

00:02:32.160 Yeah. 1.00

00:02:32.940 And the number of people,

00:02:35.400 like we're going to go over a number of teachers

00:02:36.720 who have done this,

00:02:37.540 a number of people who make video games

00:02:39.220 and like run studios.

00:02:40.120 We're going to go over people

00:02:40.860 in the medical field who have done this.

00:02:43.760 And two things are interesting.

00:02:45.580 One is that they feel that it's okay

00:02:47.060 to say something like, 1.00

00:02:48.240 I think mainstream conservatives should be killed 1.00

00:02:50.180 without realizing that that's what they're- 1.00

00:02:52.500 I mean, because they've been convinced

00:02:53.940 that mainstream conservatives are extremists

00:02:55.420 when they hold positions

00:02:56.160 that most Americans have hold

00:02:57.900 for the past 50 years.

00:03:00.640 Yeah.

00:03:00.780 You know, they one,

00:03:02.440 feel safe going out and doing this, right?

00:03:04.500 And by the way,

00:03:05.040 if you want to do something about this,

00:03:06.020 don't complain to HR.

00:03:07.380 And as McGold said,

00:03:08.200 don't go to the top of your company.

00:03:10.720 Go to OSHA and say you don't feel safe

00:03:12.880 because then the government has to do something.

00:03:14.860 I love that advice.

00:03:16.720 Yeah.

00:03:17.360 And the CEO is very likely to respond

00:03:19.860 if a company is getting a lot of OSHA complaints

00:03:21.320 and it can be done anonymously.

00:03:23.060 So you just say,

00:03:24.180 this person is saying 0.92

00:03:25.440 that they want to kill mainstream conservatives, right? 0.88

00:03:28.260 Or they think this is a good thing, right?

00:03:30.440 And I don't feel safe in this environment

00:03:32.200 and that will-

00:03:33.520 But the other thing that's interesting

00:03:34.400 is that people are even addressing this.

00:03:36.080 Like people are responding to this.

00:03:37.460 Like it feels like these people

00:03:40.040 wouldn't have been fired,

00:03:41.380 you know, three years ago

00:03:42.360 or something like that.

00:03:43.100 So we are now seeing a shift.

00:03:45.420 Like, it's like,

00:03:46.420 oh, well, this is just like you guys

00:03:48.060 where you said,

00:03:48.900 you know, trans people

00:03:49.880 are not a disenfranchised group

00:03:52.080 and in fact are a group in power

00:03:53.340 because they are a group

00:03:54.180 you are not allowed to criticize

00:03:55.640 or you could be fired.

00:03:57.180 Like if you misgender them, 0.95

00:03:58.020 you could be fired.

00:03:58.620 And I'm like,

00:03:59.900 there's a big difference

00:04:01.000 for being fired

00:04:01.720 for misgendering somebody

00:04:03.720 and celebrating

00:04:05.640 that somebody was shot

00:04:06.940 in front of their children

00:04:08.040 and saying that

00:04:09.160 that should happen again

00:04:10.400 in the future.

00:04:11.160 Like those are two categories

00:04:13.700 of what is being

00:04:14.960 mildly inconvenienced

00:04:16.640 and the other is

00:04:17.900 demanding genocide.

00:04:20.280 Well, and egging on 1.00

00:04:22.080 a complete degradation

00:04:24.120 or end to public civility

00:04:28.280 and safety in order

00:04:29.820 and law following.

00:04:31.200 But I also want to point out here,

00:04:32.620 and this is also really important,

00:04:33.980 is the people who are like,

00:04:35.180 well, then you should just

00:04:35.960 never say that anyone,

00:04:37.920 no matter what they're doing,

00:04:39.140 should be punished

00:04:40.840 in a way that is outside

00:04:41.940 of the legal system.

00:04:42.740 Like you are just out

00:04:43.560 against extrajudicial killings.

00:04:45.480 I'm absolutely not

00:04:46.420 because I think if we look

00:04:47.760 at where society is going

00:04:48.760 right now,

00:04:49.660 eventually we may need

00:04:51.580 to rise up, right?

00:04:53.100 Like we may need

00:04:54.120 to fight against this system

00:04:55.380 if it becomes too dictatorial,

00:04:56.740 if it becomes too controlling.

00:04:58.040 That may happen

00:04:59.020 within our lifetimes

00:04:59.840 and that involves

00:05:01.240 extrajudicial killings, right?

00:05:03.520 So these people who think

00:05:04.860 that they've just found

00:05:05.800 this safe position of,

00:05:07.540 oh, well, just never,

00:05:08.540 ever, ever rise up.

00:05:10.220 Just never, ever, ever revolt.

00:05:12.660 Well, then what happens, right?

00:05:14.560 Like you need to be like,

00:05:15.700 no, the problem

00:05:16.240 is not the extrajudicial

00:05:18.000 killing thing.

00:05:18.560 It's the extrajudicial killing 0.52

00:05:19.640 for like mainstream

00:05:20.620 normal beliefs.

00:05:22.020 That is psychotic,

00:05:23.320 especially beliefs

00:05:23.900 that aren't really hurting anyone.

00:05:25.760 When we can get to,

00:05:26.660 we got to that

00:05:27.200 in the last episode

00:05:27.800 where people will be like,

00:05:28.400 oh, we had all these beliefs

00:05:29.060 that hurt people.

00:05:29.580 No, we didn't.

00:05:30.220 It's very boomer

00:05:31.020 conservative stuff.

00:05:31.700 But anyway,

00:05:32.900 another thing I want to get to,

00:05:34.360 which is what we're going

00:05:34.800 to start with here,

00:05:35.360 because I found this

00:05:35.780 really fascinating,

00:05:37.000 is in the last episode,

00:05:38.740 I made the prediction

00:05:39.960 that I suspected

00:05:40.840 this person was going

00:05:42.100 to be trans

00:05:43.640 or have ties

00:05:44.420 to the trans community,

00:05:45.300 right?

00:05:45.460 Like this whiter 1.00

00:05:46.520 sort of trans community thing.

00:05:48.240 Comes out who this guy is,

00:05:49.600 everyone is saying,

00:05:50.520 Malcolm, you miscalled it.

00:05:51.760 Like, I don't like that

00:05:52.400 you get ahead of your skis

00:05:53.260 on this stuff.

00:05:53.780 And I'm like, no, no, no,

00:05:54.420 you have to get ahead

00:05:55.560 of your skis.

00:05:56.180 If you have a worldview,

00:05:58.360 right?

00:05:59.300 And this worldview

00:06:00.680 cannot predict future events,

00:06:03.020 right?

00:06:03.240 Like it's a non-predictive worldview.

00:06:05.120 It cannot give you insight

00:06:06.580 into why a country

00:06:09.020 is doing something

00:06:09.640 or what a country

00:06:10.340 is going to do next

00:06:10.860 or what a movement

00:06:11.420 is going to do next

00:06:12.120 or what type of person

00:06:12.860 is going to do X.

00:06:13.820 You do not have

00:06:14.580 a useful worldview.

00:06:15.760 Like that worldview

00:06:16.480 remains untested.

00:06:18.380 And so I made a prediction

00:06:19.220 that one group,

00:06:21.340 a very rare group

00:06:22.200 in the U.S.,

00:06:22.620 it makes up like 1.5%

00:06:23.880 of the U.S. population

00:06:24.520 was going to be involved in this.

00:06:25.540 Since the shooting

00:06:27.500 has happened,

00:06:28.260 some very interesting

00:06:29.320 things have happened

00:06:30.060 and people have done

00:06:30.860 more researching.

00:06:31.800 Obviously, the big one is,

00:06:33.320 but I actually think

00:06:33.900 that this might be

00:06:34.480 less important,

00:06:35.660 is that this person,

00:06:37.600 the person who they

00:06:38.520 were in a relationship with

00:06:39.640 and were living with

00:06:40.840 turned out to be

00:06:41.620 a trans person.

00:06:42.680 So do we have proof

00:06:44.180 that they're in a relationship?

00:06:44.940 Yes, the police have confirmed

00:06:46.520 they were in a relationship.

00:06:47.780 Whoa.

00:06:49.020 So this isn't like

00:06:49.880 random speculation anymore.

00:06:52.060 This is, I think it was like

00:06:52.740 the governor of Utah

00:06:53.820 specifically confirmed this.

00:06:55.780 So we'll get to that.

00:06:57.080 I actually think

00:06:57.660 that that person,

00:06:59.300 so a lot of people

00:07:00.000 have kept trying to be like,

00:07:01.800 oh, here's this trans person online

00:07:03.880 that seemed to have knowledge

00:07:05.580 of the shooting

00:07:06.440 before it happened.

00:07:07.800 This is this person's partner,

00:07:09.780 romantic partner account.

00:07:10.940 And then as we dig deeper,

00:07:12.040 it turns out,

00:07:12.520 no, they were actually

00:07:13.240 a different trans person

00:07:14.240 and not this person's partner.

00:07:15.780 So what we are finding

00:07:16.780 is it appears

00:07:18.000 that there were,

00:07:19.940 in addition to this person's partners,

00:07:21.640 three trans individuals

00:07:22.800 and no one who wasn't

00:07:24.000 a trans individual

00:07:24.520 who knew about this shooting

00:07:25.720 before it happened.

00:07:27.820 And a lot of them-

00:07:29.020 I thought a lot of people

00:07:29.720 were saying

00:07:30.080 because the roommate,

00:07:33.620 alleged partner,

00:07:35.160 was complicit in turning in-

00:07:39.140 The roommate was not complicit

00:07:40.880 in turning in.

00:07:41.560 Tyler Robinson.

00:07:41.840 The dad turned them in,

00:07:43.640 but the roommate has helped

00:07:44.820 give information to police

00:07:46.700 and has been very cooperative

00:07:47.880 with police.

00:07:48.420 So my actual wider read

00:07:51.300 that I can give a skip to

00:07:52.760 ahead of times

00:07:53.420 is I think that the person's

00:07:55.380 girlfriend slash boyfriend,

00:07:56.640 because they started dating

00:07:57.780 before they were transitioning

00:07:58.780 and now they're trans-

00:07:59.620 Anyway,

00:08:00.240 girlfriend slash boyfriend,

00:08:01.500 I think that they may have

00:08:02.660 actually not had anything

00:08:04.440 to do with it

00:08:05.120 and that other trans people

00:08:07.680 did have something to do with it,

00:08:09.060 but the girlfriend slash boyfriend

00:08:10.200 was the connection

00:08:11.040 between the assassin

00:08:13.320 and the wider Utah trans community

00:08:16.180 that was involved in this.

00:08:17.340 So let's get into

00:08:19.940 the evidence for this

00:08:20.660 because a lot of people

00:08:21.220 have been mixing up

00:08:23.020 parts of the evidence

00:08:23.780 in a way that leads people

00:08:25.460 to be like,

00:08:25.860 oh, this has been debunked

00:08:26.800 when it hasn't been debunked.

00:08:28.160 So let's start with

00:08:29.700 the Twitter account

00:08:30.820 Najara Galzan,

00:08:32.620 who goes by Omar.

00:08:34.200 So this individual

00:08:35.440 had tweeted

00:08:36.360 leading up to the rally,

00:08:38.160 Charlie Kirk is coming

00:08:39.040 to my college tomorrow.

00:08:40.300 I really hope someone

00:08:41.380 evaporates him literally.

00:08:43.400 Let's just say something big

00:08:45.340 will happen tomorrow.

00:08:46.120 Now, the problem

00:08:47.760 with these particular tweets

00:08:49.380 is they are real

00:08:50.680 and they are from

00:08:51.740 a trans individual's account,

00:08:53.820 but they have been paired

00:08:55.840 with a picture

00:08:57.000 of an individual,

00:08:58.760 a different trans individual

00:08:59.920 who is not

00:09:01.180 this Omar character

00:09:02.480 who just happens to be

00:09:04.160 like a lawyer

00:09:04.780 in San Francisco

00:09:05.580 or something like that.

00:09:06.780 And Omar had,

00:09:08.080 it wasn't done maliciously.

00:09:09.620 Note, Omar,

00:09:10.880 the Omar account

00:09:11.600 had retweeted

00:09:12.480 one of their,

00:09:13.380 this other trans individual's images.

00:09:14.800 So it was stuck

00:09:16.100 in like the Google Archive data

00:09:17.800 of what the individual,

00:09:20.320 like of a picture

00:09:21.500 associated with the account.

00:09:22.700 And so people were like,

00:09:23.560 oh, this is,

00:09:24.640 this is proof.

00:09:25.120 So no,

00:09:25.500 but it appears

00:09:26.340 that somebody did know,

00:09:27.320 right?

00:09:27.540 Like that,

00:09:28.040 that I don't get much.

00:09:30.320 I hope that somebody

00:09:31.500 evaporates him.

00:09:32.540 Let's just say something big

00:09:33.860 will happen tomorrow.

00:09:36.700 Right?

00:09:37.240 And this,

00:09:37.880 let's just say something big

00:09:38.760 will happen tomorrow.

00:09:39.540 We said in response

00:09:40.960 to their tweet,

00:09:42.300 Charlie Kirk is coming

00:09:43.060 to my college tomorrow.

00:09:43.860 I really hope somebody

00:09:44.460 evaporates him literally.

00:09:45.800 So that indicates

00:09:47.120 foreknowledge

00:09:48.340 of what was going to happen.

00:09:50.400 And note here,

00:09:50.820 I'm saying this is actually

00:09:51.500 pretty big,

00:09:51.880 that I was able to call

00:09:52.860 that a like 1% population

00:09:54.760 was going to be involved

00:09:55.880 in this.

00:09:56.660 And Charlie Kirk,

00:09:57.260 and you could be like,

00:09:57.740 well,

00:09:57.820 that's who Charlie Kirk attacked.

00:09:58.840 Charlie Kirk doesn't talk about it.

00:10:00.300 Like Charlie Kirk is actually

00:10:01.620 much more focused

00:10:02.320 on other communities,

00:10:03.060 like the general gay community,

00:10:04.620 for example,

00:10:05.180 than the trans community 0.95

00:10:06.120 or,

00:10:06.620 you know,

00:10:07.280 on pro-right,

00:10:09.400 pro-life advocacy groups

00:10:11.200 and stuff like that.

00:10:12.420 This was a minority community.

00:10:13.760 And I note here

00:10:14.340 that this comes in relation

00:10:15.540 to something I've noted

00:10:16.240 in the 90s.

00:10:16.900 In the 90s,

00:10:18.000 when conservatives

00:10:18.640 would go out 0.88

00:10:19.580 and actually murder progressives, 0.68

00:10:21.960 which they did occasionally

00:10:23.040 with bombings

00:10:23.880 and stuff like that,

00:10:24.820 it wasn't over

00:10:26.100 like a variety of topics.

00:10:27.600 It like,

00:10:28.220 wasn't the environmentalists.

00:10:29.720 It was always abortion, 0.99

00:10:30.840 wasn't it?

00:10:31.800 Always abortion. 1.00

00:10:32.860 Always abortion. 1.00

00:10:33.400 That was the one thing 0.98

00:10:34.440 that got you murdered.

00:10:35.460 And I understand

00:10:37.460 how they justified it

00:10:38.320 to themselves.

00:10:38.720 They were saying,

00:10:39.260 well,

00:10:39.340 this person is murdering people, 0.91

00:10:40.860 therefore I have the right 0.99

00:10:41.540 to murder them. 0.99

00:10:42.700 With the trans community, 1.00

00:10:44.620 they believe that

00:10:45.500 having different beliefs

00:10:46.940 in them is literally

00:10:47.780 murdering trans community members, 1.00

00:10:49.680 which is, 0.99

00:10:50.700 I see,

00:10:51.740 I can see.

00:10:53.060 That's the argument made.

00:10:54.640 But it's not true.

00:10:55.760 Yeah,

00:10:56.680 yeah.

00:10:57.020 I mean,

00:10:57.320 it's widely disproven

00:10:58.940 that trans people

00:11:00.760 who are blocked

00:11:01.580 from undergoing transition

00:11:02.740 end their lives.

00:11:04.360 But that's still

00:11:05.740 the argument made.

00:11:06.500 That's still the belief held

00:11:07.600 that not transitioning

00:11:08.880 is dead.

00:11:09.540 It's not true.

00:11:10.360 Like,

00:11:10.520 in the community,

00:11:11.240 it's a belief that it's true.

00:11:11.980 But it's like,

00:11:12.680 the UK banned puberty blockers

00:11:14.320 and within the community,

00:11:15.740 unaliving rates

00:11:16.280 haven't gone up,

00:11:16.880 right?

00:11:17.080 Like,

00:11:17.320 we know that.

00:11:17.560 Yeah,

00:11:17.780 but I mean,

00:11:18.120 remember the counter argument

00:11:20.060 to conservatives,

00:11:22.720 Christians, 1.00

00:11:23.980 killing people, 1.00

00:11:24.900 going to abortion clinics 0.98

00:11:26.180 was,

00:11:27.440 yeah,

00:11:27.600 but it's not true

00:11:28.480 that they're alive,

00:11:29.880 right?

00:11:30.160 Right.

00:11:30.560 So,

00:11:30.940 I'm just saying,

00:11:32.320 like,

00:11:32.600 people have different,

00:11:33.580 very different skewed views

00:11:34.840 of the world

00:11:35.400 and,

00:11:36.540 yeah,

00:11:36.840 that's how it always seems to be.

00:11:37.680 But this is why

00:11:39.300 when somebody was killed,

00:11:40.520 I was like,

00:11:41.020 okay,

00:11:41.300 a feminist didn't do this 1.00

00:11:42.520 because feminists 1.00

00:11:43.140 don't go out 0.63

00:11:43.700 and murder people 0.83

00:11:44.360 like this, 1.00

00:11:44.880 right?

00:11:45.480 I was like,

00:11:46.020 a gay person 0.82

00:11:46.940 was unlikely to do this

00:11:47.820 because,

00:11:48.100 like,

00:11:48.800 I can't think of the last,

00:11:50.060 you know,

00:11:50.260 just generically gay person 1.00

00:11:51.720 who killed people 1.00

00:11:52.340 for being anti-gay. 0.75

00:11:53.400 I don't think that's happened

00:11:54.260 in,

00:11:54.520 like,

00:11:54.560 a decade.

00:11:55.560 I don't,

00:11:55.800 I,

00:11:56.060 that might not have happened

00:11:56.860 ever,

00:11:57.440 now that I think about it.

00:11:58.680 I mean,

00:11:59.100 it must have happened somewhere

00:12:00.000 but it's just,

00:12:00.740 like,

00:12:00.800 not a common thing.

00:12:01.820 It's,

00:12:02.020 it's not a,

00:12:02.540 you know,

00:12:03.140 but with this community

00:12:04.800 we see this regularly

00:12:05.580 and you can go to our video

00:12:06.320 My Gender Identity is Murder 1.00

00:12:07.420 where we talk about this.

00:12:08.960 Somebody on Twitter

00:12:09.700 was,

00:12:10.060 like,

00:12:10.760 emailing us

00:12:11.320 to try to be,

00:12:12.020 like,

00:12:12.220 like,

00:12:12.440 retweeting all of our things

00:12:13.600 being,

00:12:13.900 like,

00:12:13.960 trans people do not 1.00

00:12:14.900 mass murder

00:12:15.400 at a higher rate

00:12:16.040 than other communities

00:12:16.740 and we,

00:12:17.560 like,

00:12:17.700 on that episode

00:12:18.420 go over the math,

00:12:19.560 like,

00:12:19.800 in detail

00:12:20.440 and they're,

00:12:21.180 like,

00:12:21.260 no,

00:12:21.600 Grok agrees with me

00:12:22.460 and it's,

00:12:22.680 like,

00:12:23.160 Grok was pulling

00:12:23.960 from PolitiFact,

00:12:24.980 like,

00:12:25.480 a well-known,

00:12:26.500 like,

00:12:26.880 left-wing grift organization

00:12:28.480 that regularly

00:12:29.220 manipulates data,

00:12:30.240 like,

00:12:30.820 it said,

00:12:31.480 I'm pulling from PolitiFact.

00:12:32.680 Why don't you just

00:12:33.300 run the numbers yourself?

00:12:34.600 It's easy to do the math.

00:12:36.500 Well,

00:12:36.620 that's because

00:12:37.180 the prompt to Grok

00:12:39.680 was, 0.96

00:12:40.520 disprove these liars.

00:12:43.020 Oh, 0.84

00:12:43.220 that's what it was?

00:12:43.920 The only,

00:12:44.500 yeah,

00:12:44.780 the only answer

00:12:45.760 that Grok could give

00:12:47.080 was one

00:12:47.800 that dis,

00:12:48.700 that disagreed

00:12:50.120 with our argument.

00:12:51.280 AI psychosis

00:12:52.480 right there.

00:12:53.420 So just

00:12:53.900 present evidence

00:12:55.400 that they're wrong

00:12:56.420 was the prompt.

00:12:57.560 I'm right,

00:12:58.100 yes.

00:12:58.620 Yeah.

00:12:59.460 I actually used Grok

00:13:00.700 for the research

00:13:01.980 on that episode.

00:13:02.680 I was like,

00:13:03.040 pull up the number

00:13:03.760 of,

00:13:04.260 you know, 0.90

00:13:04.860 trans mass shooters, 0.96

00:13:06.300 what's the percentage

00:13:07.340 in the population?

00:13:08.140 But I think most,

00:13:09.040 or at least a lot

00:13:09.880 of people using AI

00:13:11.080 use it for confirmation bias.

00:13:12.980 They don't use it

00:13:13.420 for information finding.

00:13:15.140 Yeah.

00:13:16.860 Okay,

00:13:17.380 so to go over

00:13:18.020 some other tweets here

00:13:18.920 that I think are interesting.

00:13:20.220 Skylar Webster

00:13:21.120 at Fuji

00:13:22.380 Incel

00:13:23.600 posts five days

00:13:24.900 before September 10th

00:13:25.920 assassination.

00:13:27.200 They were a far,

00:13:28.780 they're described

00:13:29.420 as a radical

00:13:29.960 far left trans individual

00:13:31.040 from the University

00:13:31.640 of Washington

00:13:32.120 high school student

00:13:33.060 posted,

00:13:34.320 you guys,

00:13:35.060 I have something big,

00:13:36.120 big in all caps

00:13:36.920 coming soon.

00:13:38.260 Just be sure

00:13:38.820 to check the news.

00:13:39.880 You'll know it

00:13:40.300 when you see it.

00:13:41.220 In quote.

00:13:42.320 Immediately after

00:13:43.300 the shooting,

00:13:44.400 they quote tweeted

00:13:45.560 that other quote

00:13:46.800 saying something big

00:13:48.240 is about to happen

00:13:49.040 saying,

00:13:50.600 well,

00:13:50.900 that's that.

00:13:52.260 Another one

00:13:52.900 bites the dust

00:13:54.080 or another chud 1.00

00:13:54.840 bites the tusks

00:13:55.660 followed by a

00:13:56.900 celebratory message.

00:13:57.700 So they were

00:13:58.160 re quote tweeting

00:13:59.680 their own tweet

00:14:01.640 saying something's

00:14:02.840 about to happen.

00:14:04.520 Man,

00:14:05.140 when you're like

00:14:05.700 complicit in

00:14:06.580 murder,

00:14:08.600 shouldn't you 0.98

00:14:09.200 keep your 0.82

00:14:09.960 mouth shut?

00:14:11.300 I mean,

00:14:11.540 only half of murders

00:14:12.740 are solved in the U.S.,

00:14:14.060 right?

00:14:14.360 Yeah,

00:14:16.420 like this is like 0.99

00:14:17.220 dumb. 0.99

00:14:17.960 Well, 1.00

00:14:18.120 so the actual

00:14:18.660 guy who did

00:14:20.140 the assassination,

00:14:21.540 he was like

00:14:22.000 top 1%

00:14:22.900 on like

00:14:23.420 ACTs.

00:14:24.400 He was from

00:14:25.140 like a

00:14:25.500 Mormon

00:14:26.240 conservative

00:14:27.660 like

00:14:28.220 MAGA family.

00:14:29.280 He seemed

00:14:29.680 like a decent

00:14:30.440 guy all throughout

00:14:31.080 high school,

00:14:31.660 all throughout

00:14:31.880 middle school.

00:14:32.320 Like everyone's

00:14:32.720 like,

00:14:33.140 he was a really

00:14:33.960 upstanding guy.

00:14:34.980 Goes to college,

00:14:36.400 gets radicalized.

00:14:37.740 And I've noticed

00:14:38.680 this as well,

00:14:39.740 where I've noticed

00:14:40.340 more radicalization

00:14:41.520 in the people

00:14:42.200 who long-term

00:14:42.960 date trans individuals

00:14:44.020 and the trans

00:14:44.580 individuals

00:14:44.920 themselves.

00:14:45.940 And I don't

00:14:46.600 know what's

00:14:47.680 causing this.

00:14:48.700 It might be

00:14:49.360 that like

00:14:49.840 because you

00:14:51.340 have to take

00:14:51.980 sort of a

00:14:52.400 submissive position

00:14:53.500 to their

00:14:54.500 ideology,

00:14:55.720 I mean,

00:14:55.960 you don't want

00:14:56.380 the cognitive

00:14:56.780 dissonance of

00:14:57.420 like there's

00:14:57.800 something like

00:14:58.520 they're doing

00:14:59.120 this hurting

00:14:59.480 themselves or

00:15:00.200 whatever.

00:15:00.960 You become

00:15:01.560 even more

00:15:02.220 extreme in

00:15:02.660 the ideology.

00:15:03.920 Well,

00:15:04.140 I think

00:15:04.420 actually it

00:15:05.100 has to do

00:15:05.720 more with

00:15:06.860 a feeling

00:15:08.380 of impunity

00:15:09.080 when you're

00:15:09.580 acting selflessly.

00:15:10.940 Like instead

00:15:11.300 of acting

00:15:11.900 in your own

00:15:12.620 self-

00:15:13.100 I'm not

00:15:15.560 doing this

00:15:16.160 for me

00:15:16.840 because you're

00:15:18.040 still seen

00:15:18.780 as selfish

00:15:20.220 even in a

00:15:20.840 game of

00:15:21.360 oppression

00:15:21.840 Olympics.

00:15:22.220 If you're

00:15:22.840 acting on

00:15:23.300 behalf of

00:15:23.760 your own

00:15:24.180 interest

00:15:24.560 group,

00:15:25.800 you have

00:15:26.800 more moral

00:15:27.840 impunity

00:15:28.420 per leftist

00:15:29.200 ideology if

00:15:30.620 you are acting

00:15:31.220 on behalf

00:15:31.760 of other

00:15:32.640 groups.

00:15:32.940 This is why

00:15:33.380 white Karens 0.81

00:15:34.320 in general

00:15:35.100 on the left,

00:15:36.540 well,

00:15:36.780 and on the

00:15:37.060 right,

00:15:37.300 but like

00:15:37.600 especially on

00:15:38.520 the left

00:15:38.820 in this

00:15:39.200 context

00:15:40.160 are so

00:15:41.260 uniquely

00:15:41.840 virulent

00:15:42.500 because they

00:15:43.800 believe they

00:15:44.660 are justified

00:15:45.220 in doing

00:15:45.640 anything

00:15:46.220 because they

00:15:46.680 are selflessly

00:15:47.840 arguing

00:15:48.580 in favor

00:15:50.580 of the people

00:15:51.520 that they

00:15:52.120 don't represent.

00:15:53.180 The director

00:15:53.600 that came to

00:15:53.940 our house

00:15:54.180 that was in

00:15:54.700 this group

00:15:55.520 of people,

00:15:55.960 she was

00:15:56.900 arguing on

00:15:57.460 behalf of

00:15:57.900 like,

00:15:58.120 oh,

00:15:58.380 the poor 0.97

00:15:58.960 Hispanic

00:15:59.820 population

00:16:00.580 and all

00:16:01.080 this horrible

00:16:01.560 stuff and

00:16:01.980 I'm like,

00:16:02.640 the majority

00:16:03.120 of Hispanic

00:16:03.640 men voted

00:16:04.160 for Trump

00:16:04.620 and he told

00:16:05.200 people he

00:16:05.600 was going

00:16:05.860 to do

00:16:06.080 this,

00:16:06.400 right?

00:16:06.560 Like,

00:16:07.280 you are

00:16:08.060 pretending

00:16:08.760 like speaking

00:16:09.680 on behalf

00:16:10.120 of another

00:16:10.560 group that

00:16:11.100 doesn't even

00:16:11.680 agree with

00:16:12.100 you.

00:16:12.260 You're speaking

00:16:12.760 against their

00:16:13.360 own asserted

00:16:14.840 self-interest.

00:16:16.300 Yeah,

00:16:16.460 well,

00:16:16.600 and you're

00:16:16.800 also ignoring

00:16:17.600 the,

00:16:18.900 to use your

00:16:19.400 own terminology,

00:16:20.120 I guess,

00:16:20.420 the lived

00:16:20.780 experience of

00:16:21.960 so many

00:16:23.120 people from

00:16:24.060 Latin America

00:16:24.820 and Central

00:16:25.460 America who

00:16:26.060 are either

00:16:26.240 going through

00:16:26.740 the process

00:16:27.340 of legally

00:16:27.800 immigrating 0.82

00:16:28.240 now or

00:16:28.580 who have

00:16:28.840 recently

00:16:29.180 gone through

00:16:29.740 the process

00:16:30.720 of legally

00:16:31.180 immigrating,

00:16:31.700 spending

00:16:31.940 tens of

00:16:32.420 thousands of

00:16:32.860 dollars that

00:16:33.560 they can't

00:16:34.380 afford to do

00:16:35.360 this all

00:16:35.740 correctly.

00:16:36.560 Only to

00:16:37.980 see a

00:16:38.400 whole bunch

00:16:38.740 of other

00:16:39.040 people jump

00:16:40.240 the lines,

00:16:40.960 cheat the

00:16:41.320 system,

00:16:41.700 and then be

00:16:42.020 given money.

00:16:43.400 I felt so

00:16:44.380 disgusted seeing

00:16:45.080 this woman talk 0.99

00:16:45.660 on behalf of

00:16:46.440 the Latin

00:16:46.680 American community

00:16:47.420 when she knew

00:16:48.080 that our

00:16:48.720 primary friend

00:16:49.740 network is

00:16:50.160 Latin American.

00:16:50.760 That is most

00:16:52.360 of our friends.

00:16:53.580 Not just most

00:16:54.060 of our friends,

00:16:54.460 but Bruno,

00:16:55.320 who works on

00:16:55.700 rfab.ai with

00:16:56.540 me,

00:16:56.800 and the team

00:16:57.340 working on

00:16:57.720 that is Latin

00:16:58.240 America.

00:16:58.760 Our company

00:16:59.300 is based

00:16:59.800 out of Peru.

00:17:01.000 He's based

00:17:01.620 out of Brazil

00:17:02.360 is where we're

00:17:02.800 doing that work

00:17:03.320 out of.

00:17:03.540 My first

00:17:05.620 kid's

00:17:06.080 godfather is

00:17:06.900 a Latin

00:17:07.420 American

00:17:07.660 immigrant.

00:17:08.540 We work

00:17:09.340 with the

00:17:09.560 Latin

00:17:09.680 American

00:17:09.900 community.

00:17:10.880 It was

00:17:11.320 very clear

00:17:11.680 to me that

00:17:11.980 I don't

00:17:12.160 think she

00:17:12.400 had any

00:17:12.740 Latin

00:17:12.920 American

00:17:13.120 friends.

00:17:14.160 Her

00:17:14.500 entire

00:17:15.080 team was

00:17:16.540 white

00:17:16.860 women, 1.00

00:17:17.240 like Karen's.

00:17:17.800 It was

00:17:17.960 the Karen

00:17:18.500 police.

00:17:18.840 I think

00:17:20.600 if one

00:17:21.360 of them

00:17:21.560 had been

00:17:22.140 Latin

00:17:22.320 American,

00:17:22.640 she would

00:17:22.820 have felt

00:17:23.040 less

00:17:23.280 comfortable

00:17:23.640 saying

00:17:24.360 stuff

00:17:24.640 like

00:17:24.780 that.

00:17:25.760 You

00:17:26.120 actually

00:17:26.400 pointed out

00:17:26.740 to me,

00:17:26.940 which I thought

00:17:27.160 was a very

00:17:27.580 funny and

00:17:28.020 interesting

00:17:28.280 observation,

00:17:29.000 is in the

00:17:29.580 90s,

00:17:30.120 they'd always

00:17:30.460 have these

00:17:30.800 interracial

00:17:31.920 friend groups

00:17:32.400 where one

00:17:32.980 is Asian

00:17:33.460 and one

00:17:33.840 is Black

00:17:34.280 and one

00:17:34.640 is Hispanic.

00:17:35.100 Like on TV

00:17:35.580 shows.

00:17:36.120 That was their

00:17:36.740 way to show

00:17:37.200 diversity.

00:17:38.260 You're like,

00:17:39.680 but in reality,

00:17:41.300 if you've ever

00:17:41.860 been in a

00:17:42.360 friend group

00:17:42.660 like that,

00:17:43.280 you know that

00:17:43.840 there is no

00:17:44.560 more racist

00:17:45.300 friend group

00:17:45.920 than a

00:17:46.300 friend group

00:17:46.620 like that.

00:17:47.180 That'd be

00:17:47.460 the most

00:17:47.760 based racist 0.77

00:17:48.620 friend group

00:17:49.720 ever.

00:17:50.860 And this is

00:17:52.140 the thing,

00:17:52.640 and I think

00:17:53.000 there was

00:17:53.340 the study

00:17:53.940 that we went

00:17:54.440 over in another

00:17:55.400 episode that

00:17:55.800 showed that

00:17:56.180 conservatives

00:17:56.600 have more

00:17:57.060 interracial

00:17:57.840 friends than

00:17:58.360 progressives do.

00:17:59.860 I've got to

00:18:00.240 find that

00:18:00.900 somewhere.

00:18:01.580 But it's

00:18:02.340 in part

00:18:02.760 because of

00:18:03.320 this.

00:18:03.560 Once you

00:18:04.020 enter this

00:18:04.820 post-racist

00:18:06.960 world,

00:18:07.880 I think

00:18:08.740 there's the

00:18:09.380 racist, 0.77

00:18:09.940 there's the

00:18:10.180 anti-racist,

00:18:10.920 and then

00:18:11.120 there's the

00:18:11.580 post-racist.

00:18:13.020 The way I

00:18:13.940 feel it now,

00:18:14.720 at least

00:18:15.020 the feeling

00:18:16.660 I get

00:18:17.180 from the

00:18:17.720 id of

00:18:18.240 the United

00:18:18.520 States is

00:18:19.160 that we

00:18:19.400 are all

00:18:20.000 stifled under

00:18:21.700 this heavy

00:18:22.360 wet wool

00:18:23.200 blanket of

00:18:25.220 racial dysphoria 0.59

00:18:28.540 or racist

00:18:30.080 dysphoria,

00:18:30.860 and then

00:18:31.180 beneath it

00:18:31.820 is just

00:18:32.240 this itching 0.65

00:18:33.320 racist euphoria

00:18:35.040 where people

00:18:35.780 just 100%

00:18:37.760 work together,

00:18:38.960 whatever,

00:18:39.460 but just,

00:18:40.760 you know.

00:18:41.280 like the

00:18:42.120 director lady

00:18:42.820 we had over

00:18:43.200 said racist,

00:18:44.240 like constantly

00:18:45.400 she was saying

00:18:45.820 racist and

00:18:46.300 sexist stuff.

00:18:47.080 Like, 0.67

00:18:47.580 aren't you

00:18:48.200 afraid,

00:18:49.320 ashamed to 0.99

00:18:49.800 be white, 0.95

00:18:50.560 you know. 0.95

00:18:51.400 Aren't you ashamed 0.99

00:18:52.040 of your white 0.99

00:18:52.600 privilege?

00:18:53.880 Yeah,

00:18:54.180 no,

00:18:54.440 this is stuff

00:18:55.620 like imagine

00:18:56.020 if you said

00:18:56.560 like,

00:18:57.260 one person

00:18:57.920 was like,

00:18:58.160 I'm ashamed

00:18:58.440 to be white.

00:18:58.920 I'm like,

00:18:59.120 imagine if a 0.91

00:18:59.600 black person 0.97

00:18:59.980 was like, 0.97

00:19:00.300 I'm ashamed 0.95

00:19:00.640 to be black. 0.98

00:19:01.140 You'd say 0.93

00:19:01.420 they have

00:19:01.700 internalized

00:19:02.140 racism,

00:19:02.600 right?

00:19:03.220 Like,

00:19:03.340 this is just

00:19:03.840 racism.

00:19:04.460 But she

00:19:04.940 like was

00:19:05.420 getting off

00:19:06.020 on being racist

00:19:06.660 all the time

00:19:07.120 because she

00:19:07.460 thought she could

00:19:08.160 like get

00:19:08.840 away with

00:19:09.220 it in a

00:19:09.560 modern context.

00:19:10.540 Which was

00:19:11.200 just like,

00:19:12.120 it's hilarious

00:19:12.920 how frequently

00:19:13.900 like Wokies 1.00

00:19:14.820 act just

00:19:15.780 like transparently

00:19:16.540 racist when

00:19:17.160 they think

00:19:17.460 they can get

00:19:17.780 away with

00:19:18.060 it.

00:19:18.220 Like this

00:19:18.420 like deep

00:19:18.900 desire to

00:19:19.580 be racist 0.95

00:19:20.020 all the

00:19:20.320 time.

00:19:21.440 But anyway,

00:19:22.740 I'm gonna

00:19:23.100 keep going

00:19:23.400 with this

00:19:23.640 conversation

00:19:24.040 here.

00:19:25.700 So this

00:19:26.620 topic exploded

00:19:27.500 a bit after

00:19:28.080 we recorded

00:19:28.780 this episode

00:19:29.440 with a number

00:19:30.160 of other

00:19:30.540 instances coming

00:19:31.380 to light.

00:19:32.360 Specifically,

00:19:33.260 there was a

00:19:33.860 TikToker on

00:19:34.560 a trans account

00:19:35.260 that said

00:19:36.080 this was

00:19:36.980 somebody called

00:19:37.620 at definitely

00:19:38.320 not Jackson.

00:19:39.780 Charlie Kirk,

00:19:40.680 Mr. College

00:19:41.260 Dropout,

00:19:41.840 does not know

00:19:42.420 what's coming

00:19:42.840 tomorrow.

00:19:43.620 Be ready.

00:19:44.520 This isn't a

00:19:45.200 threat.

00:19:45.580 It's a promise.

00:19:46.520 There were

00:19:47.380 also two

00:19:48.380 other accounts.

00:19:49.740 One that

00:19:50.660 was titled

00:19:51.420 Tally Halibum,

00:19:53.160 which on

00:19:54.140 September 3rd,

00:19:55.300 2025,

00:19:56.160 a week before

00:19:56.720 the shooting,

00:19:57.860 posted,

00:19:58.820 it would be

00:19:59.180 funny if

00:19:59.720 someone like

00:20:00.220 Charlie Kirk

00:20:00.840 got shot on

00:20:01.620 September 10th

00:20:02.520 LMAO.

00:20:03.780 Was this

00:20:04.260 individual?

00:20:05.040 We don't know

00:20:05.880 if they're trans

00:20:06.580 or not,

00:20:06.920 but the FBI

00:20:07.560 suspects they

00:20:08.400 are because

00:20:08.840 they're doing

00:20:09.200 an investigation

00:20:09.760 into this.

00:20:11.220 And then

00:20:11.740 another one

00:20:12.360 at Altog

00:20:13.380 on August 6th,

00:20:15.080 2025,

00:20:16.000 about a month

00:20:16.400 before the

00:20:16.900 shooting,

00:20:17.740 the account

00:20:18.180 posted,

00:20:19.100 September 10th

00:20:19.940 will be a

00:20:20.260 very interesting

00:20:20.900 day.

00:20:21.820 A follow-up

00:20:22.580 after the

00:20:23.580 shooting said,

00:20:24.300 I plead the

00:20:24.820 fifth in

00:20:25.820 relation to

00:20:26.420 the previous

00:20:26.880 post.

00:20:27.560 This post

00:20:28.120 also reposted

00:20:29.120 another account

00:20:29.800 that we'll be

00:20:30.140 talking about

00:20:30.460 in a second,

00:20:30.940 the Cherbom75 0.52

00:20:32.300 account,

00:20:33.300 which was

00:20:34.080 another 0.54

00:20:35.160 transgender

00:20:35.700 individual.

00:20:36.140 This person,

00:20:37.640 the Altog of

00:20:38.580 the people who

00:20:39.200 knew about this

00:20:39.780 beforehand,

00:20:40.300 is the only one

00:20:41.100 that claims to

00:20:41.780 be a cis man,

00:20:43.120 although they do

00:20:44.220 say that they

00:20:45.060 used they-them

00:20:46.240 pronouns for a

00:20:47.300 while,

00:20:47.740 but had recently

00:20:48.760 moved back.

00:20:49.740 And I'd point out

00:20:50.460 here for people

00:20:50.940 who are too deep

00:20:51.500 to realize this,

00:20:52.540 using they-them

00:20:53.200 pronouns is not

00:20:54.200 like dipping your

00:20:55.220 toes in the

00:20:56.000 trans community.

00:20:56.640 You have to be

00:20:57.360 pretty deep in

00:20:58.340 the community

00:20:58.840 to use not

00:21:00.660 just like he,

00:21:01.680 her,

00:21:02.120 or whatever,

00:21:03.480 to use like

00:21:04.380 neo-pronouns.

00:21:05.680 So in a

00:21:07.100 steam group

00:21:08.380 that was titled

00:21:09.420 Read This If 0.98

00:21:09.980 You're Gay, 1.00

00:21:10.420 which was like 0.99

00:21:10.820 for like memes

00:21:11.660 and stuff,

00:21:12.540 September 10th,

00:21:13.620 2025,

00:21:14.860 1124.

00:21:16.000 So-

00:21:16.360 Oh,

00:21:16.660 so is that what

00:21:17.580 that one bullet 0.75

00:21:18.200 engraving was?

00:21:19.040 If you're reading

00:21:19.460 this, 0.97

00:21:19.720 you are gay? 0.99

00:21:21.440 Oh yeah, 0.83

00:21:22.060 he mentioned

00:21:22.560 the steam group

00:21:23.500 in the bullet.

00:21:24.480 I hadn't even

00:21:25.000 noticed that.

00:21:25.460 If you're reading

00:21:25.680 this, 1.00

00:21:26.000 you are gay, 1.00

00:21:26.500 lol, 1.00

00:21:26.780 something like that,

00:21:27.480 right?

00:21:27.600 It's a common

00:21:28.180 meme,

00:21:28.680 but in the

00:21:29.240 group referenced

00:21:30.060 on the shell

00:21:30.720 casing,

00:21:31.480 right?

00:21:32.540 That he was

00:21:33.100 a member of

00:21:33.920 before the

00:21:35.760 assassination

00:21:36.240 happened.

00:21:36.700 Oh no,

00:21:36.980 sorry.

00:21:37.520 This was

00:21:37.900 mere hours

00:21:38.920 after the

00:21:39.900 fatal shooting.

00:21:40.560 So around

00:21:40.920 7pm that

00:21:41.500 evening,

00:21:42.440 but crucially

00:21:43.280 before the

00:21:44.240 suspect's arrest

00:21:45.600 or acknowledgement.

00:21:46.700 So he was a

00:21:47.520 member of this

00:21:47.960 group.

00:21:48.620 The group

00:21:49.080 didn't,

00:21:50.640 you know,

00:21:51.240 publicly,

00:21:52.120 would have had

00:21:52.620 no way of

00:21:53.080 knowing that he

00:21:53.760 was involved in

00:21:54.440 this,

00:21:54.900 presumably,

00:21:55.580 right?

00:21:56.440 So it was a

00:21:56.780 group that was

00:21:57.220 focused on

00:21:58.220 furry and

00:21:59.080 LGBTQ plus

00:22:00.340 subculture.

00:22:01.420 A poster

00:22:01.920 named

00:22:02.620 Cherry

00:22:03.680 Sevlon,

00:22:05.020 who unfortunately

00:22:05.920 wasn't able to

00:22:06.440 get any other

00:22:06.860 information on,

00:22:08.200 said,

00:22:08.600 be careful over 1.00

00:22:09.420 your SHIT, 1.00

00:22:11.140 you say, 1.00

00:22:11.800 online,

00:22:12.680 end-to-end

00:22:13.260 encryption messaging

00:22:14.180 platforms like

00:22:15.580 Signal exists for

00:22:16.740 reasons,

00:22:17.500 or just use

00:22:18.620 PGP,

00:22:19.880 and yes,

00:22:20.580 this is directly

00:22:21.640 referencing a very

00:22:22.660 specific thing

00:22:23.400 that happened.

00:22:23.900 Oh,

00:22:25.180 that's,

00:22:26.100 as Octavian

00:22:27.100 would say,

00:22:28.000 sus.

00:22:29.180 Sus.

00:22:29.900 No,

00:22:30.240 it's not

00:22:30.660 sus,

00:22:31.060 it's basically

00:22:31.720 admitting.

00:22:32.280 It was after

00:22:33.100 the shooting,

00:22:33.860 the member

00:22:34.260 was there,

00:22:35.140 it referenced

00:22:35.600 the group

00:22:35.940 on the

00:22:36.240 shell casings,

00:22:37.220 that hadn't

00:22:37.860 been announced

00:22:38.360 at the time

00:22:39.200 yet,

00:22:40.060 and one member

00:22:40.640 of the group

00:22:41.060 is like,

00:22:41.740 hey guys,

00:22:42.600 just make sure

00:22:43.100 you don't talk

00:22:43.580 about this

00:22:43.900 publicly.

00:22:44.840 So it meant

00:22:45.360 that this was

00:22:45.800 being discussed

00:22:46.620 within the

00:22:47.100 community,

00:22:47.620 right?

00:22:48.320 This was

00:22:48.700 something that

00:22:49.100 a lot of

00:22:49.660 people knew

00:22:50.180 about before

00:22:50.820 it happened.

00:22:51.360 So was

00:22:52.900 Sky Balladez.

00:22:55.140 They are a

00:22:55.720 Utah-based

00:22:56.500 musician and

00:22:57.360 photographer and

00:22:58.520 trans as well,

00:22:59.500 and they are a 0.98

00:23:00.480 one-woman noise

00:23:01.300 metal band

00:23:02.240 called God's

00:23:02.940 Finest Scalpel,

00:23:03.880 and they appear

00:23:04.680 to work as

00:23:05.120 like a

00:23:05.720 tattooist.

00:23:07.460 Anyway,

00:23:08.140 they released

00:23:09.820 a song in

00:23:11.080 August 2025,

00:23:12.300 so a few

00:23:12.700 months before

00:23:13.340 this,

00:23:14.380 titled

00:23:14.820 Charlie Kirk

00:23:15.800 Dead at

00:23:16.520 31,

00:23:17.960 and then

00:23:18.860 in April

00:23:19.620 2025,

00:23:20.260 they released

00:23:21.660 a song

00:23:21.980 titled

00:23:22.380 Charlie Kirk's

00:23:23.220 Death Isn't

00:23:23.880 Enough for

00:23:24.260 Me,

00:23:24.920 and Death 0.98

00:23:25.680 to American 1.00

00:23:26.320 Scum. 0.99

00:23:27.600 So, 1.00

00:23:28.240 he was

00:23:29.240 killed at

00:23:29.920 31.

00:23:30.540 So,

00:23:31.120 this was a

00:23:31.560 I thought he

00:23:31.700 was 32.

00:23:33.020 Was he

00:23:33.380 32?

00:23:34.100 Mm-hmm.

00:23:34.760 Let's look it

00:23:35.080 up.

00:23:35.440 October 14,

00:23:36.340 1993.

00:23:37.720 God,

00:23:38.040 we're old.

00:23:38.960 Age of

00:23:39.220 death,

00:23:39.420 31 years.

00:23:39.980 I was wrong.

00:23:40.760 Told you.

00:23:41.900 So,

00:23:42.280 yeah,

00:23:42.520 so this

00:23:43.500 individual

00:23:43.900 appeared to

00:23:44.580 know ahead

00:23:46.260 of time,

00:23:46.600 months ahead

00:23:46.920 of time,

00:23:47.400 when Charlie Kirk

00:23:48.180 was going to

00:23:48.460 be killed. 0.97

00:23:48.980 And keep in 1.00

00:23:49.620 mind,

00:23:49.780 you can be

00:23:50.140 like,

00:23:50.680 it could be

00:23:51.320 a random

00:23:52.060 coincidence

00:23:52.920 that this

00:23:53.780 person knew.

00:23:54.740 I'm like,

00:23:55.340 okay,

00:23:56.160 let's go

00:23:57.400 back here a

00:23:58.000 bit.

00:23:58.480 This was a

00:23:59.300 trans individual.

00:24:00.760 Everyone who

00:24:01.260 seemed to know

00:24:01.720 beforehand was a

00:24:02.460 trans individual

00:24:03.040 in Utah.

00:24:05.380 So,

00:24:06.360 that's an

00:24:07.200 unusual trans 1.00

00:24:08.260 community as

00:24:08.900 well,

00:24:09.200 like the

00:24:09.520 exmo trans 0.90

00:24:10.360 community,

00:24:11.020 right,

00:24:11.800 around this

00:24:12.800 university.

00:24:14.040 Like,

00:24:15.560 you still

00:24:16.240 think that's a

00:24:16.920 coincidence?

00:24:17.300 It appears

00:24:19.620 very clear

00:24:20.520 where this

00:24:21.400 individual who

00:24:22.120 did the

00:24:22.540 shooting was

00:24:22.940 radicalized.

00:24:25.120 And the

00:24:25.720 community that

00:24:26.300 helped him

00:24:26.640 plan this.

00:24:27.400 Now,

00:24:27.860 obviously,

00:24:28.280 the question

00:24:28.660 here is,

00:24:29.220 did they just

00:24:29.640 passively know

00:24:30.460 about this?

00:24:31.160 or were

00:24:32.800 they actively

00:24:33.460 engaged with

00:24:34.160 the planning

00:24:34.840 and stuff

00:24:35.320 like this?

00:24:36.140 Given the

00:24:36.780 fact,

00:24:37.140 I mean,

00:24:37.300 if you look

00:24:37.640 at the

00:24:37.860 anger that

00:24:38.380 goes into

00:24:38.800 songs like,

00:24:40.000 like,

00:24:40.260 these songs

00:24:40.520 are super

00:24:41.020 angry,

00:24:41.720 like,

00:24:42.020 Charlie

00:24:42.240 Kirk dead

00:24:42.640 at 31,

00:24:43.680 and Charlie

00:24:44.340 Kirk's death

00:24:44.820 isn't enough

00:24:45.360 for me,

00:24:46.220 these,

00:24:47.380 like,

00:24:48.080 this person

00:24:48.560 was clearly

00:24:48.980 thinking about

00:24:49.740 this a lot,

00:24:50.500 and they

00:24:51.760 expected the

00:24:52.800 audience to

00:24:54.120 be aware of

00:24:55.000 this.

00:24:55.300 Like,

00:24:55.480 in their

00:24:55.760 underground

00:24:56.520 trans Utah

00:24:57.820 music scene,

00:24:58.880 they expected

00:25:00.280 there to be,

00:25:01.520 like,

00:25:01.600 enough knowledge

00:25:02.800 about this

00:25:04.120 to get,

00:25:04.640 like,

00:25:04.960 underground

00:25:05.400 credit points

00:25:06.380 that this

00:25:07.100 is something

00:25:07.480 that was

00:25:07.800 going to

00:25:08.160 happen in

00:25:08.520 the near

00:25:08.700 future.

00:25:11.400 And I

00:25:13.260 hate what

00:25:14.100 I'm seeing

00:25:14.500 on the left

00:25:15.000 in regards

00:25:15.400 to this,

00:25:16.040 is they're

00:25:16.380 like,

00:25:16.660 oh,

00:25:17.340 that was

00:25:17.920 debunked,

00:25:18.800 right?

00:25:19.020 Like,

00:25:19.160 I'm actually

00:25:19.460 seeing,

00:25:19.900 like,

00:25:20.340 and what

00:25:20.620 they mean

00:25:21.220 is it

00:25:21.800 was debunked

00:25:22.760 that the

00:25:23.200 individual

00:25:23.540 who wrote

00:25:24.520 these songs,

00:25:25.260 Sky Vandalize,

00:25:26.500 was the

00:25:26.920 shooter themselves.

00:25:27.800 I'm like,

00:25:29.540 yes,

00:25:31.080 they weren't

00:25:31.760 the shooter.

00:25:32.940 That's not,

00:25:34.020 it's not

00:25:34.520 debunked that

00:25:35.320 they wrote

00:25:35.800 these songs

00:25:36.500 and they

00:25:36.780 were very

00:25:37.200 publicly on

00:25:38.020 multiple song

00:25:39.100 hosting platforms,

00:25:40.760 right?

00:25:41.080 Like,

00:25:41.340 that wasn't

00:25:42.000 debunked.

00:25:42.680 It is

00:25:43.100 debunked

00:25:43.840 that they

00:25:44.900 were not

00:25:45.300 the shooter.

00:25:46.500 Or they'll

00:25:47.180 say,

00:25:47.440 oh,

00:25:47.540 that first

00:25:47.940 tweet was

00:25:48.280 debunked.

00:25:48.640 And I was

00:25:48.800 like,

00:25:48.960 no,

00:25:49.180 the image

00:25:49.680 associated

00:25:50.180 with it

00:25:50.560 was debunked.

00:25:51.240 Not that

00:25:52.560 somebody who

00:25:53.520 was a trans

00:25:54.040 individual going

00:25:55.160 to this

00:25:55.580 university in

00:25:56.660 Utah,

00:25:57.060 appeared to

00:25:57.820 have knowledge

00:25:58.300 that the

00:25:58.620 shooting was

00:25:58.980 about to

00:25:59.280 happen.

00:25:59.920 Right.

00:26:01.340 Now I want

00:26:01.960 to quickly go

00:26:02.480 over the,

00:26:03.700 oh,

00:26:04.020 other,

00:26:04.660 other accounts.

00:26:05.440 Sorry.

00:26:06.120 There was also

00:26:07.040 we effing did

00:26:08.500 it, 1.00

00:26:09.080 let it die, 1.00

00:26:09.980 let it die. 1.00

00:26:11.140 These were 1.00

00:26:12.180 tweeted by

00:26:13.900 potentially the,

00:26:15.860 the partner of,

00:26:17.040 of the,

00:26:17.540 the assassin,

00:26:18.840 but it could

00:26:20.220 have been another

00:26:20.900 trans account.

00:26:21.880 So this is yet

00:26:22.320 another trans account

00:26:23.840 that may have been

00:26:24.500 involved and known

00:26:25.020 about this.

00:26:25.440 This would have

00:26:26.360 been an account

00:26:26.840 called at

00:26:27.580 Trub 75.

00:26:29.620 This was a

00:26:30.420 male to female

00:26:31.340 account.

00:26:32.240 The account

00:26:33.280 in,

00:26:34.300 in the

00:26:35.980 account's bio

00:26:36.700 at the time

00:26:37.520 said,

00:26:38.360 saw Tyler

00:26:39.440 on June

00:26:40.140 30th.

00:26:42.080 So Tyler

00:26:42.940 was the name

00:26:43.520 of the assassin,

00:26:44.120 if you're

00:26:44.540 forgetting here,

00:26:45.200 by the way.

00:26:45.940 Now they later

00:26:46.900 said,

00:26:47.360 oh no,

00:26:47.980 this was a

00:26:48.540 band I went

00:26:49.400 to see.

00:26:51.080 But again,

00:26:52.080 this is very

00:26:52.760 sus.

00:26:53.180 Sorry,

00:26:54.300 the most

00:26:54.720 important part

00:26:55.320 of this is

00:26:55.740 the person

00:26:56.100 who said

00:26:56.600 we effing

00:26:57.240 did it.

00:26:58.140 This trans 0.91

00:26:58.720 individual was

00:26:59.320 a follower

00:26:59.740 of the

00:27:00.840 assassin's

00:27:01.660 trans 1.00

00:27:02.120 girlfriend

00:27:02.640 on Twitter,

00:27:03.740 so appeared

00:27:04.120 to have

00:27:04.480 direct connection

00:27:05.300 to that group.

00:27:06.280 And I would

00:27:06.660 note here,

00:27:07.300 any individual

00:27:08.360 one of these

00:27:08.860 instances,

00:27:09.460 I might be

00:27:09.820 like,

00:27:10.300 coincidence,

00:27:10.860 crazy coincidence,

00:27:11.860 but still

00:27:12.180 coincidence in

00:27:12.960 people acting

00:27:13.500 in bad taste.

00:27:14.860 Given the

00:27:15.720 similarities

00:27:16.520 between the

00:27:17.360 individuals who

00:27:17.960 appeared to

00:27:18.340 know about

00:27:18.660 this beforehand,

00:27:19.920 given that

00:27:20.420 they appear

00:27:21.000 connected to

00:27:21.680 each other,

00:27:22.580 and given

00:27:23.160 the implausibility

00:27:24.980 that so many

00:27:25.800 of them could

00:27:26.340 make this

00:27:26.940 accidental prediction

00:27:28.200 all at once,

00:27:29.380 it seems fairly

00:27:30.400 obvious there

00:27:31.200 was a wider,

00:27:32.320 well,

00:27:32.760 trans Utah

00:27:33.280 community involved

00:27:34.480 in this.

00:27:35.160 All right,

00:27:35.700 now I want to

00:27:36.540 talk about

00:27:36.980 the celebrations.

00:27:38.720 Because it's

00:27:39.180 also something

00:27:39.580 that we need

00:27:39.920 to talk about

00:27:40.300 as a society,

00:27:40.980 because it's

00:27:41.360 like...

00:27:42.180 Well,

00:27:42.680 actually,

00:27:43.040 there's one

00:27:43.320 thing I kind

00:27:43.740 of wanted to

00:27:44.100 ask you about,

00:27:45.240 you know,

00:27:45.520 on this trans

00:27:46.600 associations front.

00:27:48.100 Because at

00:27:48.960 first,

00:27:49.600 when we recorded

00:27:50.600 the episode

00:27:51.600 about the

00:27:52.100 assassination,

00:27:53.080 all that we

00:27:53.620 knew,

00:27:54.560 it was reported

00:27:55.460 that there

00:27:56.280 were anti-fascist

00:27:57.900 and trans

00:27:58.740 slogans.

00:27:59.580 Oh, no, no.

00:28:00.080 People had

00:28:00.500 already said

00:28:00.900 that the trans

00:28:01.440 slogans were

00:28:02.120 not actually

00:28:02.700 on the bullets.

00:28:03.380 And they

00:28:03.580 weren't.

00:28:03.820 It turned

00:28:04.000 out they

00:28:04.220 weren't.

00:28:04.480 They weren't.

00:28:05.120 It was just

00:28:05.780 terminally

00:28:06.740 online stuff.

00:28:08.140 And my

00:28:09.340 initial read

00:28:09.940 of it was,

00:28:10.660 oh, this is

00:28:11.360 just a

00:28:11.760 terminally

00:28:12.240 online person.

00:28:13.440 What's your

00:28:13.800 refutation of

00:28:14.620 that?

00:28:14.920 And what's

00:28:15.240 your refutation

00:28:15.680 of arguments

00:28:16.460 that, no,

00:28:17.520 what's wrong

00:28:18.100 with this

00:28:18.420 person isn't

00:28:19.120 leftism or

00:28:19.920 rightism,

00:28:20.600 they could

00:28:21.260 have easily

00:28:21.640 have fallen

00:28:22.120 for Nick

00:28:22.480 Fuentes or

00:28:23.060 something else

00:28:23.780 and gone

00:28:24.560 super right

00:28:25.180 instead of

00:28:25.660 super left.

00:28:26.680 The issue

00:28:27.540 is that they

00:28:28.000 were too

00:28:28.360 online and

00:28:28.920 they didn't,

00:28:29.440 as Charlie

00:28:29.840 Kirk encouraged

00:28:30.500 people to

00:28:30.960 touch grass

00:28:31.740 enough.

00:28:32.460 Yeah, I

00:28:33.060 actually don't

00:28:33.740 think that's

00:28:34.360 a good

00:28:35.160 explanation at

00:28:35.860 all.

00:28:36.340 Okay, so

00:28:36.740 why?

00:28:37.760 First, if

00:28:38.600 you look at

00:28:39.100 the people

00:28:39.520 who appeared

00:28:40.140 to know

00:28:40.680 about this

00:28:41.400 before the

00:28:42.580 event, they

00:28:43.460 appear to be

00:28:44.260 not internet

00:28:45.420 friends, but

00:28:46.380 IRL friends.

00:28:47.860 these are

00:28:48.780 Utah, ex-Mormon 0.99

00:28:51.540 trans individuals.

00:28:53.020 That implies a

00:28:54.460 in-person community

00:28:56.100 to me.

00:28:56.600 Yeah.

00:28:56.860 They likely, and

00:28:58.200 when you're talking

00:28:58.560 about stuff like

00:28:59.120 indie musicians and

00:29:00.280 stuff like that,

00:29:01.280 that to me implies

00:29:02.760 like underground

00:29:03.820 clubs.

00:29:04.860 An IRL scene.

00:29:06.280 An IRL scene

00:29:07.760 where this was being

00:29:08.720 talked about, not

00:29:10.120 just was in

00:29:11.140 online forums.

00:29:12.060 And I'd also

00:29:13.900 note here, the

00:29:14.480 very fact that I

00:29:15.600 was able to

00:29:16.220 call out that

00:29:17.020 this was going

00:29:17.740 to come from

00:29:18.360 the trans

00:29:18.780 community is

00:29:19.980 pretty effing

00:29:20.740 wild.

00:29:21.240 When I'm like,

00:29:21.720 oh yeah, they're

00:29:22.320 the only ones who

00:29:23.100 really do political

00:29:23.800 violence like this.

00:29:25.240 Not like only do,

00:29:26.260 but they seem to

00:29:26.740 disproportionately do

00:29:27.660 it and radicalize

00:29:28.260 individuals.

00:29:28.940 That's very unique.

00:29:30.400 That's not

00:29:30.820 happening on, you

00:29:32.140 know, there

00:29:32.340 hasn't...

00:29:33.120 Well, they found

00:29:33.820 the perfect storm

00:29:34.780 because they brought

00:29:35.680 in a conservatively

00:29:37.400 raised, gun-trained

00:29:38.880 young man who

00:29:40.960 actually was a good

00:29:41.660 shot.

00:29:43.100 Yeah.

00:29:44.100 Because normally

00:29:44.820 their hit rate

00:29:45.480 isn't great.

00:29:46.560 Yeah, they work

00:29:46.980 to find an

00:29:47.860 individual like

00:29:48.300 this and bring

00:29:48.620 them into the

00:29:48.940 community.

00:29:49.620 But no, they,

00:29:50.340 as a community,

00:29:52.400 and you've also

00:29:52.840 talked about this

00:29:53.320 with Mormons

00:29:54.160 being uniquely

00:29:54.720 susceptible.

00:29:55.320 I think this is

00:29:55.780 more due to

00:29:56.640 just sort of

00:29:57.480 the genetic

00:29:58.320 effects of being

00:29:59.140 a Mormon.

00:29:59.380 People actually

00:29:59.820 who follow our

00:30:00.460 podcast had

00:30:01.220 hoped that you

00:30:01.720 would comment

00:30:02.100 on this too.

00:30:02.840 Like, is this,

00:30:04.580 is a lot of

00:30:05.480 this about that,

00:30:06.460 this dynamic

00:30:07.000 that you pointed

00:30:07.480 out where Mormon 0.97

00:30:08.740 children seem to

00:30:10.120 be uniquely

00:30:10.920 vulnerable to

00:30:12.900 being radicalized

00:30:14.140 by extreme

00:30:14.800 online groups?

00:30:16.240 Well, I think

00:30:16.880 Mormons are sort

00:30:18.060 of designed

00:30:19.080 for, like, I

00:30:20.980 don't mean this

00:30:21.440 anything, I love

00:30:22.340 Mormons, it's a 1.00

00:30:22.940 great culture, lots

00:30:23.800 of Mormon friends,

00:30:24.820 fans, very close

00:30:25.780 with the Mormon

00:30:26.260 community.

00:30:26.880 I even consider

00:30:27.680 my theology

00:30:28.360 pretty close to

00:30:29.500 Mormon, some

00:30:30.180 forms of Mormon

00:30:30.740 theology.

00:30:31.120 And so I think

00:30:33.500 that if we look

00:30:34.820 historically at

00:30:36.260 what drew people

00:30:37.240 to the Mormon

00:30:37.780 church and the

00:30:38.880 personality profile

00:30:39.880 that drew people

00:30:40.460 to the Mormon

00:30:40.880 church, it is a,

00:30:43.100 like, historically

00:30:43.860 speaking, and I

00:30:46.260 think Mormons who

00:30:47.160 are, like, more

00:30:47.980 broadly able to

00:30:49.320 see their religion

00:30:50.280 without bias would

00:30:52.180 understand that their

00:30:52.860 religion in its

00:30:54.200 fairly recent history

00:30:55.220 is what, if it was

00:30:56.660 that today, we would

00:30:57.820 just call a cult.

00:30:58.600 Like, I mean, you

00:30:59.920 could call our

00:31:00.460 religion a cult 1.00

00:31:00.960 because it's a new

00:31:01.400 religion.

00:31:01.700 Most new religion

00:31:02.260 movements are.

00:31:02.740 I think the

00:31:03.140 argument you've

00:31:03.680 made, though, at

00:31:04.780 least to any Mormon

00:31:05.960 who's like, well,

00:31:06.520 what advice would

00:31:07.160 you give to the

00:31:07.600 LDS church on

00:31:08.840 growth?

00:31:09.400 The best argument

00:31:10.180 that I've heard you

00:31:10.700 make that I really

00:31:11.300 agree with is, hey,

00:31:13.760 actually, the best

00:31:15.460 thing that the LDS

00:31:16.260 church could do is

00:31:17.200 lean into weirdness

00:31:18.080 because the problem

00:31:18.900 is by leaning into

00:31:20.660 conformity and

00:31:21.540 acceptance, you are

00:31:23.340 making it hard for

00:31:25.340 members of the

00:31:26.240 church to stay in

00:31:27.040 the church when

00:31:27.540 they're exposed to

00:31:28.260 mainstream

00:31:28.600 society.

00:31:29.460 Exactly.

00:31:30.300 To take that a

00:31:31.220 step further, once

00:31:32.720 these people who

00:31:34.180 are raised in this

00:31:34.960 kind of, you must

00:31:35.960 conform with the

00:31:36.740 group you're in, end

00:31:38.020 up in radicalized

00:31:39.300 groups like this,

00:31:41.340 they go bonkers.

00:31:43.000 Well, and also,

00:31:44.180 what are they

00:31:44.660 supposed to do?

00:31:45.220 I mean, you, a lot

00:31:46.300 of the sort of

00:31:46.940 Mormon culture teaches

00:31:47.620 people, be normal,

00:31:48.860 be normal, because

00:31:49.480 it's afraid of this

00:31:50.100 cult branding.

00:31:50.800 But be normative

00:31:51.380 with your surrounding

00:31:52.200 group.

00:31:53.120 Right.

00:31:53.560 The problem is, is

00:31:55.020 the normative

00:31:55.920 group, like the

00:31:56.580 normative cultural

00:31:57.460 group, is

00:31:58.580 the urban

00:32:00.400 monoculture, right?

00:32:01.740 And so, now

00:32:03.120 they're like, well,

00:32:03.960 if I'm actually

00:32:04.700 going to be normal,

00:32:05.420 I'm going to adapt

00:32:06.380 to urban monocultural

00:32:07.440 practices, and then

00:32:08.720 it's like, but I

00:32:09.280 still have all of

00:32:10.020 these, like, extremist

00:32:10.940 cultist tendencies,

00:32:12.360 so what's a cult

00:32:13.640 that's approved by the

00:32:14.680 urban monoculture?

00:32:15.380 Oh, it's this identity

00:32:17.660 politics stuff.

00:32:18.760 So I'm going to go

00:32:19.360 100% all in on that.

00:32:21.540 And I think the way

00:32:22.200 that you fix this is

00:32:23.220 teach your kids, we

00:32:24.700 are different, we are

00:32:25.980 not normal, and you

00:32:27.440 should have pride in

00:32:28.200 that.

00:32:29.160 Normal is bad.

00:32:30.380 Don't be normal.

00:32:31.440 Be weird, because being 0.97

00:32:33.120 Mormon is weird, and

00:32:34.360 that's cool, right? 0.93

00:32:35.960 And that's how you

00:32:36.880 resist this.

00:32:37.600 You know, when these

00:32:38.020 people come to him,

00:32:38.620 and they're like, you

00:32:39.200 are a Mormon, which 0.50

00:32:40.640 makes you weird in X, Y,

00:32:41.720 and Z way.

00:32:42.620 You can actually hit

00:32:43.460 them with the UNO 0.73

00:32:44.060 reverse card.

00:32:44.700 Be like, what, are you

00:32:45.360 discriminating against me

00:32:46.360 for my minority

00:32:47.280 religious background?

00:32:48.660 Like, do you know

00:32:49.220 what Mormons have gone 1.00

00:32:50.140 through with the U.S.

00:32:51.000 government?

00:32:51.500 Are you aware of the

00:32:52.800 number of Mormons that

00:32:53.840 were killed at the

00:32:54.740 battle of whatever?

00:32:55.940 My people have been

00:32:57.080 through discrimination

00:32:58.240 since blah, blah, blah,

00:32:59.260 blah, blah.

00:32:59.560 You know, you go,

00:33:00.220 right, we haven't even

00:33:01.080 had a president yet.

00:33:02.220 You know, you can go

00:33:03.820 far with that, right?

00:33:05.840 And so, defend the

00:33:07.000 Mormon community.

00:33:08.120 I like that.

00:33:08.980 But yeah, I do think

00:33:09.700 that it is uniquely

00:33:10.860 susceptible to a lot of

00:33:12.260 it.

00:33:12.840 So anyway, one, I

00:33:14.640 think it's not about

00:33:15.720 generic online

00:33:16.460 communities.

00:33:17.120 It's about one online

00:33:18.900 community.

00:33:19.720 And generic online

00:33:20.740 communities do not

00:33:22.060 radicalize people into

00:33:23.260 killers that frequently.

00:33:24.660 Like, we've noticed

00:33:25.440 it's actually been pretty

00:33:26.420 weird that there are

00:33:27.320 not more incel

00:33:28.000 shooters, right?

00:33:29.020 When you look at the

00:33:29.860 rates of violence you

00:33:31.540 would expect from this

00:33:32.220 community.

00:33:32.540 You have a whole

00:33:33.220 podcast on it, yeah.

00:33:34.420 Yeah, we have a whole

00:33:34.980 podcast on it.

00:33:35.580 But it's one of the

00:33:37.180 only ideologies that

00:33:38.740 can convince people

00:33:40.180 that by disagreeing

00:33:41.420 with them, you're

00:33:41.920 murdering people. 0.98

00:33:43.660 Like, Antifa genuinely 0.96

00:33:45.320 believes, and you can

00:33:46.020 see this on his shells

00:33:47.880 and everything like

00:33:48.380 that, that mainstream

00:33:49.980 boomer conservatism is

00:33:51.100 fascism.

00:33:52.020 They genuinely believe

00:33:53.680 that Trump is a 0.98

00:33:54.560 fascist. 0.98

00:33:55.060 They genuinely, like,

00:33:56.500 even though I was

00:33:57.480 like, whatever you

00:33:59.080 bring up, you know,

00:34:00.000 that Trump was a

00:34:00.680 felon for, like,

00:34:01.400 obviously trumped up

00:34:02.440 charges.

00:34:03.160 Again, like, what

00:34:04.180 specifically did he get

00:34:05.140 the felony for, for

00:34:05.860 not disclosing his

00:34:07.500 prostitute payments in

00:34:09.080 his tax filings, which

00:34:10.600 is not a felony,

00:34:12.860 unless you count it in

00:34:14.640 a certain way.

00:34:15.040 It's really, you can

00:34:15.720 go to our episode,

00:34:16.260 we've gone deeper on

00:34:16.920 this, but it's a bit

00:34:18.000 like being like, oh,

00:34:19.080 yeah, when somebody's

00:34:20.040 like, Nelson Mandela,

00:34:21.680 known felon.

00:34:22.920 And it's like, well,

00:34:23.580 wasn't he a political

00:34:24.500 prisoner?

00:34:25.240 Like, that doesn't

00:34:26.280 exactly make me trust

00:34:27.360 him less.

00:34:28.880 I love it.

00:34:29.860 People were freaking

00:34:30.900 out that we had

00:34:31.380 made this comparison

00:34:32.060 in one of our

00:34:32.520 previous episodes,

00:34:33.300 and it's like, they

00:34:34.800 were like, well,

00:34:35.340 Trump's an excellent,

00:34:36.400 like, a, a, a

00:34:37.780 grapist, and a

00:34:38.860 something, and a

00:34:39.800 something, and I'm

00:34:40.320 like, I, I disagree

00:34:42.400 on those points.

00:34:43.360 Like, you assume that

00:34:44.860 I live in this world

00:34:46.380 that you live in,

00:34:47.380 where you believe every

00:34:48.640 negative accusation

00:34:49.680 that's made about

00:34:50.400 right-wing figures in

00:34:51.360 the media, and me,

00:34:52.760 as a right-wing figure

00:34:53.740 in the media, knows

00:34:54.920 that the media just

00:34:55.880 makes stuff up all

00:34:57.020 the time, and it's

00:34:57.840 important that you do

00:34:58.680 your own research on

00:34:59.660 this stuff.

00:35:00.100 And so you just

00:35:01.160 further unjustly

00:35:03.260 victimize an

00:35:04.080 individual, making me

00:35:05.780 further sympathetic

00:35:06.980 to them, and not

00:35:08.360 just me, but other

00:35:09.360 people like me, when

00:35:10.440 you do these sorts of

00:35:11.440 spurious accusations.

00:35:13.240 But the point here

00:35:14.200 being is because they

00:35:15.300 have developed an

00:35:16.180 ideology, which isn't

00:35:17.700 true for most online

00:35:18.480 ideologies, that

00:35:19.600 frames anyone as

00:35:20.540 disagreed with them

00:35:21.680 as murdering them, or

00:35:23.040 as killing them, or as 1.00

00:35:24.600 genociding them, they 0.99

00:35:26.000 now have a moral

00:35:27.720 license to, like,

00:35:30.280 bike lock Antifa

00:35:31.160 guy, right?

00:35:31.940 Like, I think that

00:35:32.540 this is, and we'll do

00:35:33.160 a separate episode on

00:35:33.980 trans Tifa, I think

00:35:35.160 this is, like, a

00:35:35.620 broader thing.

00:35:36.140 It's not, like, just

00:35:36.880 the trans movement.

00:35:38.420 It's a part of the

00:35:38.960 trans movement that's

00:35:39.600 been co-opted by

00:35:40.360 Antifa, and it's sort

00:35:41.760 of merged with Antifa

00:35:42.840 into this wider, I

00:35:44.300 have a moral license 0.98

00:35:45.280 to murder people with 0.83

00:35:47.240 mainstream political 0.99

00:35:48.100 beliefs because I

00:35:48.820 disagree with them.

00:35:50.680 Yeah.

00:35:51.660 And this has become a

00:35:52.740 normative belief system.

00:35:54.100 Like, you literally, you

00:35:55.620 would not see, if a

00:35:56.660 leftist figure was,

00:35:57.640 like, murdered in

00:35:58.600 front of his family,

00:35:59.460 you might see some,

00:36:00.540 like, crazy online

00:36:01.820 right-wing people

00:36:02.440 celebrating it, right?

00:36:03.840 A hundred percent.

00:36:04.780 But you wouldn't see

00:36:05.500 them jumping in the

00:36:06.420 crowd celebrating while

00:36:08.120 watching it happen,

00:36:09.040 which we literally,

00:36:09.980 you know, have

00:36:10.500 pictures of from this

00:36:12.060 event, right?

00:36:13.040 And you wouldn't see

00:36:14.820 tons of, so to just

00:36:16.760 go through a few of,

00:36:17.600 because there was,

00:36:17.980 like, 30 instances of

00:36:19.520 teachers being fired

00:36:20.320 for this.

00:36:20.920 And keep in mind,

00:36:21.400 these are people who

00:36:21.960 are teaching your kids.

00:36:23.720 Like, you might be,

00:36:24.360 like, oh, they were

00:36:24.900 fired for saying this,

00:36:25.900 that that's good.

00:36:26.920 And it's like, what

00:36:28.380 were they saying to

00:36:29.160 the kids before this?

00:36:31.440 Right?

00:36:31.860 And what about the

00:36:32.320 ones that were smart

00:36:33.000 enough to do this on

00:36:33.900 an alt account?

00:36:36.160 Right?

00:36:36.440 So, high school

00:36:38.440 teacher, Greenville

00:36:39.280 County School District,

00:36:40.260 South Carolina,

00:36:41.440 Ryan Bullock, was

00:36:42.560 fired after posting on

00:36:43.520 Facebook, quote,

00:36:44.720 thoughts and prayers

00:36:45.400 to his children, but

00:36:46.240 in my opinion,

00:36:47.480 America became 0.63

00:36:48.720 greater today.

00:36:49.720 There, I said it.

00:36:50.560 Then, assistant cheer

00:36:51.880 coach, Meridian High

00:36:52.820 School, Idaho, said,

00:36:55.000 you effing got what

00:36:56.280 you effing deserve.

00:36:57.580 I just saw the

00:36:58.560 effing video.

00:36:59.920 It looks like you got 0.96

00:37:00.900 shot in the neck or 0.82

00:37:01.840 chest. 0.68

00:37:02.920 I'm not saying I wish

00:37:04.280 deaths upon someone,

00:37:05.360 but that's what I'm

00:37:06.660 effing saying for this

00:37:07.980 mother effer. 0.87

00:37:09.700 Piece of effing 0.92

00:37:10.620 S. 1.00

00:37:11.740 I hope he's dead. 1.00

00:37:13.200 She then added, 1.00

00:37:14.360 oh, I hope he's not

00:37:15.320 dead.

00:37:15.980 Oh, oh, pray for

00:37:17.100 Charlie Kirk.

00:37:17.740 Oh, oh.

00:37:18.660 And then later noted,

00:37:20.000 no, he didn't deserve

00:37:20.980 to be violently killed

00:37:21.840 by that, blah, blah, 1.00

00:37:22.680 blah, blah.

00:37:23.420 But this is the thing.

00:37:24.880 Like, they believe that

00:37:26.020 this individual, like,

00:37:26.840 they'll be like, oh,

00:37:27.260 he was a racist. 0.65

00:37:28.660 And I'm like, proof he 0.98

00:37:29.680 was a racist, right?

00:37:30.940 And they'll be like,

00:37:31.500 well, he said he was

00:37:32.480 worried about when he

00:37:33.600 saw, like, black pilots,

00:37:34.680 right, like, on his

00:37:35.340 flight, right?

00:37:36.200 And given the current

00:37:37.260 DII practices. 0.85

00:37:38.160 And I'm like, anybody

00:37:39.100 who's aware, look at

00:37:40.060 our video of the

00:37:40.720 American Chernobyl is

00:37:42.020 going to happen with,

00:37:43.020 like, the TFA

00:37:43.580 explicitly asking in

00:37:46.000 their test to try to 0.84

00:37:47.340 hire more black 0.98

00:37:48.060 people because they 0.94

00:37:48.700 were the actual

00:37:49.500 racist, and then

00:37:50.540 having the correct

00:37:51.280 answer on the test

00:37:51.900 being that you don't

00:37:52.660 like science and you

00:37:53.360 don't take directions

00:37:54.260 well, because they

00:37:55.220 thought that's the way

00:37:55.820 black people answered. 0.92

00:37:56.800 Like, that's going to 0.98

00:37:57.440 lead to bad people in

00:37:59.080 flying capacity.

00:38:01.040 I can see why-

00:38:01.760 Things are also just

00:38:02.500 being taken so widely

00:38:03.900 out of context.

00:38:05.020 Another prominent

00:38:05.720 example is Stephen

00:38:07.260 King subsequently

00:38:08.260 apologizing for tweeting

00:38:10.680 after he was shot. 0.77

00:38:12.780 He believed gays 1.00

00:38:13.880 should be stoned to 1.00

00:38:14.720 death, by the way, 1.00

00:38:16.160 or just FYI.

00:38:17.180 And really, he was

00:38:18.600 apparently responding

00:38:20.020 to Miss Rachel, you

00:38:22.140 know, the really

00:38:22.860 prominent kids show,

00:38:25.880 like, content producer,

00:38:27.400 referring to the Bible's

00:38:28.880 love thy neighbor thing,

00:38:30.440 you know, in terms of,

00:38:31.340 like, how we need to be

00:38:32.300 kinder to people.

00:38:33.360 She's a very prominent

00:38:34.120 sort of help kids in

00:38:35.720 Palestine fundraiser, and

00:38:37.840 that has caught her, you 0.61

00:38:39.400 know, sort of in the

00:38:40.160 middle of political

00:38:40.860 crosshairs.

00:38:42.440 And I think in that

00:38:43.540 context, Charlie Kirk

00:38:44.620 pointed out, well, you

00:38:46.420 know, the Bible also 0.91

00:38:47.540 says that gays should be 1.00

00:38:48.640 stoned to death, just so 1.00

00:38:50.080 you know.

00:38:50.900 And then that was turned

00:38:52.600 into, Charlie Kirk 0.95

00:38:54.480 thinks gays should be 1.00

00:38:55.660 stoned to death, which is 1.00

00:38:56.880 so widely.

00:38:57.680 Like, he's just being

00:38:58.620 reasonable.

00:38:59.140 Like, he wasn't actually

00:39:00.260 any-

00:39:00.540 The other one is, like,

00:39:01.760 the MLK one.

00:39:02.560 Oh, he says MLK was a

00:39:04.040 bad-

00:39:04.160 MLK was a serial

00:39:05.320 adulterer.

00:39:05.920 Like, we know this now.

00:39:07.440 He cheated with friends

00:39:09.660 who were in the clergy

00:39:10.600 with him, spouses.

00:39:12.440 Like, he-

00:39:14.140 There's problems with

00:39:15.620 MLK.

00:39:16.140 MLK doesn't have the

00:39:17.700 spotless record Charlie

00:39:18.900 Kirk does.

00:39:19.780 You know, I hate to say

00:39:20.960 it, but it's just true.

00:39:22.360 You can look at the

00:39:22.940 video we did with

00:39:24.260 Curtis Yarvin on MLK's,

00:39:25.820 you know, association

00:39:27.140 with communists.

00:39:28.740 And communists, you 1.00

00:39:30.280 know, kill way more 1.00

00:39:31.340 people than racists ever 0.97

00:39:32.540 did.

00:39:32.980 If you're surprised by

00:39:34.040 this claim, then you're

00:39:35.220 like, that can't be

00:39:36.280 true.

00:39:36.720 What about, like, the

00:39:37.340 entire slave trade?

00:39:38.800 If you look at, and it

00:39:40.040 depends on the numbers

00:39:40.780 that you're looking at,

00:39:41.580 but based on some of the

00:39:43.340 numbers that are held by

00:39:44.620 mainstream academics, if

00:39:46.140 you look at the entire

00:39:47.020 number of people who

00:39:47.780 died over the course of

00:39:48.760 the entire transatlantic

00:39:50.800 slave trade, that number 0.71

00:39:52.720 would be about equivalent

00:39:53.800 to just the people who

00:39:55.520 died in just the five

00:39:57.280 years of China's great

00:39:58.840 leap forward.

00:39:59.660 Right?

00:39:59.900 So, like, let's talk

00:40:01.160 about, like, evil

00:40:02.220 ideologies here.

00:40:03.180 I would say that if

00:40:04.020 Charlie Kirk was

00:40:04.600 actually, like,

00:40:05.140 associated and working

00:40:05.920 with, like, mainstream

00:40:06.600 racists, that's probably

00:40:07.880 the equivalent of

00:40:08.500 working with mainstream

00:40:09.000 racists.

00:40:09.160 This is the thing when

00:40:09.840 everyone's like, oh, he

00:40:11.380 met with a Nazi, or, you

00:40:13.080 know, he said a Nazi

00:40:13.960 thing, and I'm like,

00:40:14.700 well, you have communists

00:40:15.740 at your rallies. 0.98

00:40:16.480 Like, communists killed 0.92

00:40:17.180 way more people than 0.97

00:40:18.660 Nazis killed.

00:40:19.660 Like, what are you, what 0.82

00:40:21.640 is this, like, why are

00:40:22.840 we supposed to be freaked

00:40:23.660 out about associating with

00:40:24.680 Nazis and not freaked out

00:40:26.020 about associating with

00:40:26.740 communists?

00:40:27.420 It's like, oh, yeah,

00:40:28.360 because you control the

00:40:29.160 academic institutions and

00:40:30.220 media, and you get to

00:40:31.440 control which groups are

00:40:33.260 the groups we're allowed

00:40:34.080 to associate with and

00:40:34.900 not associate with, or

00:40:35.900 the ideas we're allowed

00:40:36.940 to flirt with and not

00:40:37.840 flirt with, right?

00:40:39.440 Which, just, just 0.54

00:40:41.240 disgusting, but

00:40:42.060 good point.

00:40:43.500 Anyway, to continue here,

00:40:44.920 we got a school teacher

00:40:45.720 in Oregon who said that

00:40:47.340 learning of this guy's

00:40:48.740 death in front of his

00:40:49.460 kids brightened up his

00:40:50.320 day.

00:40:51.160 You had somebody in

00:40:53.080 Wisconsin, a teacher, be

00:40:54.720 put on leave for saying

00:40:55.700 he was a racist, 0.88

00:40:56.440 xenophobic, transphobic, 1.00

00:40:57.780 Islamophobic, sexist, 1.00

00:40:59.320 white nationalist, mouse 1.00

00:41:00.920 piece who made millions 0.99

00:41:01.960 of dollars inciting hatred

00:41:04.260 in this country, which he

00:41:05.960 wasn't most of those

00:41:07.060 things.

00:41:07.940 Like, if you actually look

00:41:08.880 at his stuff, he

00:41:09.960 believed, his views on

00:41:11.820 gays were the Bible's 1.00

00:41:13.440 views on gays, okay?

00:41:14.620 Or at least mainstream

00:41:16.200 evangelical interpretations

00:41:17.380 of the Bible's views of

00:41:18.280 gays.

00:41:18.640 So if you're saying he's 0.96

00:41:20.240 homophobic, you're saying

00:41:21.660 no one is allowed to have

00:41:23.320 mainstream evangelical

00:41:25.520 religious beliefs.

00:41:26.660 Like, that's an entire

00:41:27.380 religion that you're like,

00:41:29.200 you're not allowed to

00:41:29.980 believe, right?

00:41:30.860 Well, I'm hearing his

00:41:31.540 arguments against trans

00:41:32.880 people who are actively

00:41:33.800 debating him at his

00:41:34.880 college events.

00:41:36.020 Like, you know, why is it

00:41:38.380 not okay for me to ask to

00:41:39.760 be called by my gender?

00:41:42.180 His arguments seemed

00:41:42.980 really close to ours,

00:41:44.040 really focused around the

00:41:45.000 lack of consent that goes

00:41:46.900 into that.

00:41:48.020 And the fact that you're

00:41:49.820 forcing people to lie and

00:41:52.940 that that's morally very

00:41:54.980 questionable.

00:41:55.220 Well, from their

00:41:55.500 perspective, I mean,

00:41:56.400 different cultures deal 0.94

00:41:57.780 with sexual boundaries

00:41:59.460 differently.

00:42:00.200 They deal with consent

00:42:01.700 differently.

00:42:02.900 You know, a great example

00:42:04.240 of this, which I haven't

00:42:05.160 had time to really

00:42:05.820 articulate, but I've sort

00:42:06.660 of been working in my

00:42:07.220 head is, okay, suppose

00:42:08.900 you were going to a

00:42:10.380 native island, right?

00:42:11.960 And you knew that on

00:42:13.140 this native island, if you

00:42:14.860 showed your knees, that 0.74

00:42:16.520 was considered like a very

00:42:17.360 sexual thing.

00:42:18.340 And this is true for

00:42:19.320 some cultures, right?

00:42:20.280 Like you would be like an 0.99

00:42:23.940 absolute D bag to go like

00:42:26.940 showing your knees, right?

00:42:27.960 Because you're being like,

00:42:29.060 well, within my culture, I

00:42:30.180 can show my knees.

00:42:31.080 And it's like, yeah, but

00:42:31.760 within their culture,

00:42:33.160 especially if you were going

00:42:34.280 to talk to their kids or

00:42:35.700 something, and you knew you

00:42:37.080 were going to talk to their

00:42:37.960 kids, right?

00:42:39.080 Now in our society, if you do

00:42:41.740 something like, because we

00:42:43.600 were at this, this gender

00:42:44.540 service class and somebody is

00:42:46.300 like, well, somebody wanted to

00:42:47.360 dress up and act like a cat in

00:42:48.540 school and it like created

00:42:50.140 anger in me.

00:42:50.820 And like, I don't know why

00:42:51.600 it created anger in me.

00:42:52.760 And now I've like matured

00:42:53.880 past that, you know, because

00:42:54.740 they went to college and

00:42:55.360 were brainwashed.

00:42:56.100 I was like, no, that, that

00:42:56.800 should have created anger in 0.63

00:42:57.800 you because within most

00:43:00.180 cultures that live within

00:43:01.360 America, if, if somebody 0.64

00:43:03.480 says, I want to dress up and

00:43:05.080 play like a cat, that's 0.96

00:43:07.600 sexual role play. 0.97

00:43:08.860 That's like a sexual thing,

00:43:10.580 right?

00:43:10.800 Like I've had girls who 1.00

00:43:11.780 wanted to do that.

00:43:12.440 Like, cool.

00:43:13.720 Right.

00:43:14.420 But I wouldn't walk them

00:43:15.580 around on like a leash and

00:43:17.000 like a cat and like a public

00:43:18.160 context because everyone

00:43:19.040 would be like, oh, that's

00:43:20.900 a sex thing that they are 0.80

00:43:22.640 forcing on me without my 0.59

00:43:23.680 consent.

00:43:24.300 Yeah, man.

00:43:24.800 Get a room.

00:43:26.580 Lingerie covers about as

00:43:28.820 much as skimpy mainstream

00:43:31.160 female clothing.

00:43:32.360 But we culturally recognize

00:43:34.680 lingerie as a sexualized

00:43:36.440 outfit and display, right?

00:43:37.960 If you went to a

00:43:40.720 children's book leading

00:43:42.000 dressed in lingerie, you

00:43:43.960 would understand and the

00:43:45.080 audience would understand

00:43:46.140 that within most people's

00:43:47.880 cultures, not within

00:43:48.640 everyone's culture, within

00:43:49.980 most of the attendance

00:43:51.040 cultures, that is a

00:43:52.140 sexualized display that you

00:43:53.360 are subjecting them to

00:43:54.120 without their consent.

00:43:56.100 This is true for not

00:43:58.340 every, like if you're

00:43:59.760 trans and you're totally 0.95

00:44:00.720 passing and everything

00:44:01.520 like that, that's

00:44:02.280 generally not a

00:44:03.220 sexualized display. 0.61

00:44:04.320 But the way that many

00:44:05.540 people are dressing at

00:44:06.420 like children's book

00:44:07.340 readings is very clearly a

00:44:09.300 sexualized display and an

00:44:10.320 intentional sexualized

00:44:11.260 display.

00:44:11.980 Like everything that

00:44:12.900 Alec Bade Menon does, like

00:44:14.180 the way they dress, is

00:44:16.620 always a sexualized

00:44:17.780 display.

00:44:18.100 It is the equivalent of

00:44:19.920 lingerie, right?

00:44:21.120 And they are subjecting

00:44:22.740 individuals to this

00:44:23.580 without these individuals' 0.69

00:44:24.900 consent and knowing that

00:44:25.720 they are from the

00:44:26.720 perspective of those

00:44:27.380 people's parents subjecting

00:44:28.600 the children to a

00:44:29.240 sexualized display. 0.61

00:44:30.280 And I think that that's

00:44:31.300 really, really effed up.

00:44:33.000 And I think that that's

00:44:34.160 what we're talking about

00:44:34.860 when we're saying you are

00:44:36.120 defining your culture as

00:44:37.520 having more rights than

00:44:39.200 any other culture.

00:44:40.600 You're basically saying

00:44:41.380 everybody has to adopt 0.98

00:44:42.680 my cultural norms.

00:44:44.520 And it's the same with

00:44:45.380 gendery, right?

00:44:46.580 I, when I talk to a

00:44:47.960 Catholic priest, like I

00:44:49.280 may not be Catholic, but

00:44:50.380 I'd still call them

00:44:51.020 father because, you

00:44:52.280 know, they earn that

00:44:53.040 title through their

00:44:53.620 system.

00:44:54.100 But I can understand

00:44:55.140 somebody from a strong

00:44:56.300 other religious background

00:44:57.400 being like, I'm sorry,

00:44:58.720 I just can't call you

00:44:59.440 father because I do not,

00:45:01.060 like you're not my father

00:45:02.080 from my perspective,

00:45:03.040 right?

00:45:04.300 The Catholic priest

00:45:05.060 doesn't say, well, by

00:45:05.780 law, you have to call me

00:45:06.880 father.

00:45:07.240 I'm going to make it so

00:45:07.820 that you have to call me

00:45:08.400 father by law.

00:45:09.220 You have to call me by

00:45:09.740 this title.

00:45:10.200 But the trans community

00:45:11.540 does do that if somebody

00:45:12.780 has a religious objection

00:45:13.740 to this.

00:45:14.740 No, they're like, we will

00:45:15.740 get you fired. 0.62

00:45:16.520 We will make this legal.

00:45:18.760 And that's, that is

00:45:19.680 fundamentally a violation

00:45:21.200 of other people's consent,

00:45:22.440 which is really, really

00:45:23.620 bad to force that on

00:45:25.440 people, particularly to

00:45:26.680 force it on children, 0.83

00:45:27.740 particularly to defend the

00:45:29.320 people who are forcing

00:45:30.020 it on children.

00:45:31.380 And this is when people

00:45:32.180 being like, well, are you

00:45:33.680 just saying I can't be my

00:45:34.640 identity around children?

00:45:35.720 And it's like, no, like

00:45:37.920 you can, you can interact

00:45:39.240 with children was out

00:45:40.120 wearing a clearly

00:45:41.000 sexualized display. 0.61

00:45:42.140 And this is why I use

00:45:43.040 lingerie here, right?

00:45:43.940 Because lingerie, you

00:45:45.720 should be able to wear

00:45:46.620 around children.

00:45:47.200 Like lingerie covers up

00:45:48.580 all your bits.

00:45:49.620 You know what I mean?

00:45:50.140 Like from just like a

00:45:50.980 pure, like I'm following

00:45:52.200 the rules perspective.

00:45:53.320 Oh, like technically

00:45:54.420 speaking.

00:45:55.660 Technically speaking,

00:45:56.540 you're covering up

00:45:57.280 everything you're

00:45:57.820 supposed to be covering

00:45:58.440 up.

00:45:58.980 But like we all

00:46:00.220 understand that you

00:46:01.640 don't wear this in

00:46:02.380 front of kids, right?

00:46:03.380 Because culturally we

00:46:04.480 recognize this as a

00:46:05.240 sexualized display. 0.61

00:46:05.920 OK, it's the same for

00:46:07.700 most of the outfits you

00:46:09.740 see at things like

00:46:10.520 children's book

00:46:11.040 readings.

00:46:12.180 And people can be

00:46:13.960 like, well, you don't

00:46:14.780 have a problem with most

00:46:15.700 of the trans community.

00:46:16.200 No, I don't.

00:46:16.760 And this is actually

00:46:17.160 the problem.

00:46:18.560 But the community then

00:46:20.280 defends these individuals

00:46:21.500 and said if you attack

00:46:22.420 these people who are

00:46:23.020 doing sexualized

00:46:23.700 displays around

00:46:25.080 children, you are

00:46:26.220 functionally murdering

00:46:27.340 us.

00:46:27.620 I'm like, OK, one, not

00:46:28.820 true.

00:46:29.240 But two, when you

00:46:30.040 normalize that, then you

00:46:31.020 normalize murder.

00:46:32.220 And so I think if that

00:46:33.380 statement that people need

00:46:34.580 to like freak out and

00:46:35.700 fight back against

00:46:36.760 really strongly, when

00:46:37.940 everyone says you need

00:46:39.080 to respond to them, that

00:46:40.960 type of language is

00:46:42.080 both a lie and leads

00:46:43.620 to people being killed.

00:46:46.080 And that's upstream of

00:46:47.980 all this.

00:46:48.880 This isn't upstream of

00:46:50.100 gun culture.

00:46:50.920 This isn't upstream of

00:46:52.100 I'd even say normal

00:46:54.300 far progressive ideology.

00:46:56.040 This is downstream of

00:46:57.300 the belief that

00:46:58.400 disagreeing with you

00:46:59.680 is killing people.

00:47:00.680 And this is held

00:47:01.280 commonly within like

00:47:02.580 the punch of fascist,

00:47:03.800 within the Antifa

00:47:05.240 community, which I've

00:47:06.320 always found so funny

00:47:07.060 because they're literal

00:47:08.020 black shirts.

00:47:08.860 They're doing what the

00:47:09.740 literal black shirt, i.e.

00:47:11.060 they call themselves

00:47:11.680 black shirts.

00:47:12.280 Antifa calls themselves

00:47:12.900 black shirts.

00:47:13.220 What's a black shirt? 1.00

00:47:14.200 Sorry, ignorant. 0.99

00:47:15.640 So Antifa is unaware 0.98

00:47:17.820 of this, but black shirts

00:47:19.480 are what the brown shirts

00:47:20.700 that the Nazis had were 0.88

00:47:21.760 named after.

00:47:22.840 In fascist Italy, where

00:47:24.260 fascism was invented,

00:47:25.980 their common public

00:47:28.240 enforcer were called

00:47:29.360 black shirts.

00:47:30.380 And this is why the

00:47:30.900 Nazis called their

00:47:31.600 enforcers brown shirts.

00:47:32.620 And now Antifa is

00:47:33.840 again calling themselves

00:47:34.780 black shirts, enforcing

00:47:36.340 a fascist ideology that 0.99

00:47:37.720 wants to divide humans

00:47:38.740 based on our ethnic

00:47:39.640 group and sexuality

00:47:40.680 and gender.

00:47:42.260 And, you know,

00:47:42.720 fortunately they're all

00:47:43.760 dying out due to their

00:47:44.580 fertility rates, but

00:47:45.460 they're going to try to

00:47:46.360 take a lot of us

00:47:46.960 wisdom on the way.

00:47:47.740 And we need to be ready

00:47:49.180 to call them out as

00:47:52.060 being the equivalent of

00:47:53.520 a murderer whenever

00:47:54.260 they say you are

00:47:56.220 killing people in our 0.80

00:47:57.360 community by saying this 1.00

00:47:58.440 when we know that's

00:47:59.580 factually untrue.

00:48:00.280 And as we pointed out

00:48:01.160 in our episode, the one

00:48:02.200 about the Atlantic

00:48:03.060 piece where the

00:48:04.640 Atlantic is going

00:48:05.920 against the trans 1.00

00:48:06.920 community and argues

00:48:08.220 from a leftist

00:48:09.420 perspective, there is

00:48:10.760 literally zero evidence

00:48:11.940 that this increases the

00:48:12.880 unaliving risk

00:48:13.420 in the community.

00:48:14.100 I think that that's

00:48:14.900 downstream of all the

00:48:15.740 rest of this.

00:48:16.540 I'm not going to read

00:48:17.340 more teachers saying

00:48:18.120 stuff because you guys

00:48:19.180 know that people are

00:48:19.980 doing this.

00:48:20.400 You know there's like

00:48:21.040 25 instances of this.

00:48:23.180 This is mainstream

00:48:24.100 was in our school system

00:48:25.240 and these are just the 1.00

00:48:26.220 ones dumb enough to 1.00

00:48:26.920 post with their own. 1.00

00:48:27.820 You know who are

00:48:29.000 celebrating the

00:48:30.300 severe undermining

00:48:32.660 possibly for the time

00:48:35.000 being downfall of open

00:48:36.720 public discourse in the

00:48:38.080 United States.

00:48:38.900 Yeah that's what he

00:48:39.360 represented and I think

00:48:41.200 that that's why I get so

00:48:42.780 angry when people on the

00:48:44.060 right are like we should

00:48:45.660 never violate the law

00:48:48.040 and you know kill

00:48:51.040 someone right because 0.68

00:48:52.700 it's like well you're

00:48:55.000 also saying but we're

00:48:56.420 headed towards civil war

00:48:57.520 which means you don't

00:48:58.240 believe that say what

00:48:59.760 you believe which is

00:49:00.900 that you only do

00:49:03.480 something like this when

00:49:04.760 somebody is in the

00:49:06.520 process of like a mass

00:49:07.440 murder and legal

00:49:08.160 solutions don't happen

00:49:09.140 matter or work so when

00:49:11.300 you are net saving

00:49:12.520 lives and that's why I

00:49:13.900 get so angry by these

00:49:14.840 people being like oh

00:49:15.560 you never violate the

00:49:16.460 law no you violate the

00:49:17.260 law when the law is

00:49:18.280 going to leave like you

00:49:19.540 have to be aware you

00:49:20.340 can't talk about

00:49:21.300 revolutions on one side

00:49:22.280 of your mouth and then

00:49:23.280 talk about always

00:49:24.660 following the law from

00:49:25.520 the other side of your

00:49:26.080 mouth you need to call

00:49:26.720 out what the actual

00:49:27.320 problem here is

00:49:28.260 anyway any final

00:49:30.600 thoughts Simone

00:49:31.100 this is dark and

00:49:33.360 depressing I just

00:49:34.400 I yeah I hoped that

00:49:38.900 we were better than

00:49:40.440 this and we're not

00:49:42.660 but I hope that what

00:49:45.620 we'll see as a result

00:49:47.740 of this is people

00:49:49.580 nevertheless rising

00:49:50.720 above and finding

00:49:51.600 creative ways to fight

00:49:53.900 for the same thing that

00:49:55.340 Kirk was fighting for

00:49:56.640 which is open

00:49:57.480 discourse and exchange

00:49:58.780 of ideas I still

00:50:00.620 think that there are

00:50:01.220 ways forward with

00:50:02.560 greater caution

00:50:03.460 obviously and I hope

00:50:04.700 that people stepped up

00:50:05.860 step up to pursue

00:50:07.080 them yep all right

00:50:09.320 love you Simone have a

00:50:10.600 spectacular day you

00:50:13.040 too dark times but we

00:50:15.980 get to see our kids

00:50:16.600 soon so there's that

00:50:17.780 yeah well people were

00:50:19.820 remarking in the other

00:50:20.440 video that you were

00:50:21.060 crying at the Charlie

00:50:21.800 Kirk assassination but I

00:50:22.940 like demanded no crying

00:50:23.980 when my mom died Simone

00:50:25.140 cried when my mom died I

00:50:26.360 didn't cry did I cry I

00:50:28.520 seem to remember you

00:50:29.200 crying a couple times a

00:50:30.560 little bit but you were

00:50:31.380 trying to hold it in

00:50:32.000 because you could see that

00:50:32.520 I was holding it in and I

00:50:33.720 think that made you feel

00:50:34.480 like you didn't have the

00:50:35.920 right to yeah what again

00:50:39.660 my weak spot is anything

00:50:42.180 bad happening to kids

00:50:43.720 especially and knowing he

00:50:45.440 has a wife and two young

00:50:46.880 kids I yeah I mean

00:50:48.700 just no actually they

00:50:50.820 weren't there thank god

00:50:51.660 they were that was yeah

00:50:52.480 misreported widely

00:50:54.080 misreported but yeah

00:50:56.100 thank thank goodness they

00:50:58.140 were not physically

00:50:58.780 present that doesn't

00:50:59.920 change the fact that they

00:51:00.780 are very likely going to

00:51:01.700 see that footage again and

00:51:02.640 again throughout their

00:51:03.280 lives and that deficits

00:51:04.780 me oh I bet people are

00:51:06.100 sending it to them

00:51:06.800 regularly I mean you know

00:51:07.700 how progressives are

00:51:08.420 well they're they're too

00:51:09.160 they're too young now to

00:51:10.480 be exposed I mean it's

00:51:11.220 like I think they're three

00:51:12.000 in one but yeah okay

00:51:13.320 great well thanks now I'm

00:51:14.460 crying again so you should

00:51:16.120 reach out to his wife we'll

00:51:16.840 put them in our marriage

00:51:17.680 network seem like good

00:51:19.240 people yeah they're

00:51:20.920 amazing people anyway

00:51:22.280 yeah okay love you

00:51:23.420 Simone bye I love you

00:51:24.440 too okay for the yeah

00:51:29.580 I'm thrilled that we've

00:51:31.020 Diasmon golded your room

00:51:32.360 I'm really proud of it

00:51:33.380 oh your mic isn't plugged

00:51:36.160 in oh yeah see look at

00:51:39.020 that the I could walk on

00:51:40.540 the floor I can walk on

00:51:42.960 the floor it's incredible

00:51:44.100 yeah but I can't I can't

00:51:46.520 hear anything you're

00:51:47.060 saying

00:51:47.340 your mic still isn't

00:51:52.760 plugged in

00:51:53.280 hey can you hear me

00:51:54.800 yeah no I can

00:51:55.680 it's amazing

00:51:57.280 I love this and I love

00:52:00.200 that reality fabric

00:52:01.500 for caterers is mostly

00:52:02.460 working I was checking

00:52:03.360 the logic on the not

00:52:04.160 safe for work story

00:52:04.940 generator and it needs a

00:52:06.520 significant overhead

00:52:07.680 overhaul so I'm gonna try

00:52:09.100 to get that handled by the

00:52:10.440 end of this week

00:52:10.940 what seems to be

00:52:11.700 breaking

00:52:12.100 what so the logic that

00:52:15.260 it's using when I was

00:52:16.280 originally creating it it

00:52:17.540 was difficult because it

00:52:18.680 kept not wanting to do not

00:52:20.180 safe for work anything

00:52:20.960 right this was the coding

00:52:22.640 apps not the apps that we

00:52:23.820 have running the AI in it

00:52:24.800 which are meant for not

00:52:25.700 safe for work but they're

00:52:26.480 not good at coding anyway so

00:52:28.840 it wrote a lot of the

00:52:29.980 back end assuming like full

00:52:31.480 stories instead of specific

00:52:33.000 not safe for work world

00:52:34.100 play scenarios so we are

00:52:37.640 gusting enough to work

00:52:38.800 better with just creating

00:52:39.980 scenarios for not safe for

00:52:41.120 work stuff and better

00:52:42.580 seeing and interpreting

00:52:44.380 what the user wants from

00:52:45.940 those scenarios because

00:52:47.400 right now it's just too

00:52:48.100 much of a generic adventure

00:52:49.120 creator with a bunch of

00:52:50.300 like fluff in the

00:52:51.540 creation process that it

00:52:52.580 doesn't really need so it

00:52:54.480 will be able to create

00:52:55.220 your wildest fantasies

00:52:56.480 with just a few clicks and

00:52:58.140 then you get to select the

00:52:59.160 one that you want most

00:53:00.120 my favorite thing about the

00:53:02.320 NSFW section is there's a

00:53:04.620 checklist like if you

00:53:05.540 don't immediately have some

00:53:06.620 fantasy you want to

00:53:07.380 create you can just go

00:53:09.160 check off everything that

00:53:10.340 might potentially turn you

00:53:11.960 on and I don't like it

00:53:13.640 just from a perspective of

00:53:14.680 like okay I know these are

00:53:15.780 my kinks or fetishes or

00:53:17.780 whatever but like maybe you

00:53:20.200 don't there were things in

00:53:21.920 there that I'd never heard

00:53:22.740 of before and we wrote a

00:53:23.820 book on sexuality together

00:53:25.060 but if you're like well

00:53:26.100 maybe in her blog

00:53:28.020 knowingless Ayla for

00:53:29.520 example had talked about

00:53:30.620 you know a lot of women 1.00

00:53:32.200 don't realize for example

00:53:33.380 that they're into BDSM and

00:53:34.580 they'll live huge portions of

00:53:36.120 their lives not getting any

00:53:37.420 satisfaction from sex and

00:53:38.600 then they suddenly discover

00:53:39.400 the power dynamics make it

00:53:41.380 for them and they're like

00:53:42.560 whoa I actually relate to

00:53:44.220 like sex and I think this 0.56

00:53:46.500 is a really great low stakes

00:53:47.980 way to explore stuff that

00:53:50.480 you may you may have no idea

00:53:53.060 turns you on or not like in

00:53:55.380 terms of just our kids

00:53:56.440 exploring their sexuality in a

00:53:58.120 safe way I know it's really

00:54:01.140 bad to like you can have

00:54:02.540 no I've been in a stepped up

00:54:03.800 yeah I agree for this yeah

00:54:05.600 to give people an a a sort

00:54:08.740 of non-human outlet to

00:54:11.080 relieve sexual impulses and

00:54:13.920 explore and explore you know

00:54:15.520 because then you know if it's

00:54:18.180 if it's good at handling those

00:54:19.840 then you don't need to do you

00:54:21.740 know human stuff right which is

00:54:25.100 yeah human stuff like for

00:54:27.060 example I've seen some people

00:54:28.220 who have like kinks and they 0.99

00:54:29.520 like demand that they find a

00:54:31.580 husband or wife that matches

00:54:32.660 their kinks and I'm like no 0.99

00:54:34.740 don't don't do that your

00:54:36.360 kinks are rare like and it's 1.00

00:54:38.180 gonna have very little to do

00:54:39.260 with your relationship do that

00:54:40.360 with like an AI or something

00:54:41.480 right like don't don't rope

00:54:44.240 your human wife or husband

00:54:46.440 into this yeah that's this

00:54:48.380 incredibly niche thing that

00:54:49.780 has like nothing to do with

00:54:50.800 your personality yeah just

00:54:52.040 think of the number of

00:54:52.920 relationships that will be

00:54:54.000 saved because people have a 0.89

00:54:56.240 different outlet than putting

00:54:57.260 their entire same marriage on

00:54:59.780 the line because they want

00:55:01.740 greater sexual satisfaction

00:55:03.400 yeah it's it's wonderful it's 0.62

00:55:06.100 a thing of beauty well we'll

00:55:07.720 see I mean the adventure

00:55:08.580 creator part of the AI is

00:55:09.780 working great right now so if

00:55:10.920 you want to if you want to

00:55:11.620 play adventures we got some

00:55:12.820 great scenarios on there all

00:55:14.000 that's working if you want to

00:55:15.360 experiment with like multiple

00:55:16.260 AIs talking to each other so 1.00

00:55:17.940 like suppose you wrote a

00:55:18.980 document and you're like I

00:55:20.220 don't want to know like what

00:55:21.240 one AI would have to say about

00:55:22.500 this I want to know like what

00:55:23.620 conversation multiple AIs

00:55:24.960 would have about this we have a

00:55:26.460 feature of the AI lab that

00:55:27.540 lets you do that which I

00:55:28.420 haven't seen anyone else

00:55:29.120 offer so I think it's pretty

00:55:29.920 fun anyway I what did

00:55:32.640 people say on the episode

00:55:33.600 today about China women and

00:55:35.620 dating the biggest thing that

00:55:37.760 we missed which I really

00:55:39.300 appreciate people pointing

00:55:40.560 out a couple people pointed

00:55:41.660 this out as as you saw too in

00:55:43.420 the comments was that single

00:55:46.560 women or women in China in

00:55:49.640 general have basically been

00:55:50.740 raised as only children spoiled

00:55:52.560 brats and also because of the 0.89

00:55:54.600 gender difference the fact that 0.90

00:55:56.580 there are many more men

00:55:58.180 millions more men than women

00:55:59.760 to have just wildly

00:56:01.740 unrealistic expectations like

00:56:03.220 you are a rare you are a

00:56:05.280 little princess like you

00:56:06.720 deserve everything and there

00:56:08.500 was this one I read about

00:56:10.280 this and or heard about this

00:56:11.280 in another podcast called

00:56:12.620 textury by this great

00:56:13.780 youtuber you all should check

00:56:15.520 her out if you're a girl I 0.99

00:56:17.200 guess that goes through

00:56:18.160 historical texts in a kind of

00:56:19.620 gossipy way but it she she 0.99

00:56:21.880 read excerpts from this one

00:56:23.780 like Victorian writers advice

00:56:25.680 on who to marry as a man or

00:56:27.140 a woman he had separate books 0.99

00:56:28.220 for each but in each he

00:56:29.840 warned against marrying

00:56:31.680 anyone who was a single

00:56:32.680 child like because their

00:56:34.020 parents were failures sort of

00:56:35.980 genetically like they're 0.93

00:56:37.360 unfit as it is and and

00:56:38.700 probably they've been raised

00:56:39.880 to be really selfish and I

00:56:41.300 feel like obviously I'm I'm

00:56:43.280 one of the single child

00:56:44.120 created like a whole

00:56:44.940 generation of that yeah

00:56:46.420 that's the thing though is

00:56:47.580 is like there is truth to

00:56:49.300 what this guy said and you're

00:56:51.780 a single child I know and

00:56:54.520 look at what you've had to

00:56:55.280 put up with you you have

00:56:57.500 two half siblings so not

00:56:58.720 really and I planned on

00:56:59.880 never getting married either

00:57:00.680 because I was too spoiled and

00:57:02.400 didn't want to compromise on

00:57:03.460 anything so compromise ish

00:57:07.100 no I'm sorry there's another

00:57:09.780 point I wanted to get to

00:57:10.500 there that was interesting

00:57:11.400 what were we talking about

00:57:12.320 I mean the only common

00:57:13.380 comment on the women in

00:57:15.740 China episode is like this

00:57:17.200 ain't just a woman in China 1.00

00:57:18.380 oh yeah women everywhere 1.00

00:57:19.900 I mean people don't realize

00:57:22.180 how big this is so when we

00:57:23.980 talk about China's low

00:57:25.200 fertility rate right you

00:57:27.420 know we're looking at the

00:57:28.220 fertility rate of people who

00:57:29.900 are already married right

00:57:30.900 usually speaking especially in

00:57:32.300 a Chinese context and if the

00:57:35.020 marriage rate has halved from

00:57:37.540 2013 till today the very

00:57:40.220 recent time window that means

00:57:42.400 we're probably not seeing the

00:57:44.080 impact of that in the

00:57:45.220 fertility rate yet so we are

00:57:48.720 looking to see the fertility

00:57:49.960 rate drop even more

00:57:51.140 dramatically going forwards

00:57:52.360 outlook not good says eight

00:57:55.880 ball

00:57:56.160 oh it's bad it is so bad all

00:58:02.160 right I'll get started here

00:58:04.000 why can't you stop dancing

00:58:07.160 I just hear a beat my body is

00:58:11.480 hearing the beat wait you can't

00:58:16.140 stop dancing you can't stop

00:58:16.340 dancing because my because I

00:58:19.100 because my body can still hear

00:58:22.300 the beat but there's no music

00:58:24.900 playing my friend there is I'm

00:58:28.280 not telling that there's music oh

00:58:31.360 it's like in your head yeah so I

00:58:34.920 can't stop dancing but you're a

00:58:38.320 really good dancer what does the

00:58:42.600 music sound like oh yeah oh yeah

00:58:54.360 I'm dancing to the beat I'm

00:58:56.960 dancing I'm dancing I'm dancing to

00:58:59.600 the beat yeah yeah yeah is that the

00:59:02.480 song

00:59:02.600 yeah

00:59:03.600 there's zombies there's zombies

00:59:06.600 there's zombies that's the one

00:59:07.840 whoa whoa whoa

00:59:09.600 I'm gonna go

00:59:10.600 oh

00:59:11.600 oh

00:59:12.600 oh did you dance to so much you

00:59:15.280 pass out oh the beat broke in your

00:59:35.040 head

00:59:37.040 yeah

00:59:38.040 yeah

00:59:40.040 I just know the froggy I just heurecly

00:59:40.640 yeah

00:59:40.880 I just saw the doggy

00:59:42.320 yeah

00:59:42.960 yeah

00:59:43.380 yeah

00:59:44.360 yeah

00:59:45.020 yeah

00:59:45.960 I just saw the froggy, I just 0.99

00:59:47.540 saw the froggy I just saw the doggy

00:59:48.160 I swear I just saw the froggy I 1.00

00:59:49.820 swear I just saw the froggy però

00:59:52.560 I swear I just saw the froggy 0.97

00:59:54.260 mesmer Ayenne I just saw the froggy

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