Based Camp - September 16, 2025


Evidence of Trans Community's Involvement in Charlie Kirk Killing


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00:00:00.000 So in Steam group that was titled Read This If You're Gay,
00:00:03.520 which was like for like memes and stuff.
00:00:05.520 Oh, so is that what that one bullet engraving was?
00:00:08.200 If you're reading this, you are gay.
00:00:10.600 Oh yeah, he mentioned the Steam group in the bullet.
00:00:13.640 I hadn't even noticed that.
00:00:14.620 If you're reading this, you are gay, lol.
00:00:15.940 Something like that.
00:00:16.640 They're described as a radical far left trans individual
00:00:18.860 posted, quote, you guys, I have something big,
00:00:21.660 big in all caps, coming soon.
00:00:23.780 Just be sure to check the news.
00:00:25.400 You'll know it when you see it, end quote.
00:00:27.120 Immediately after the shooting, they quote tweeted
00:00:31.100 that other quote saying something big's about to happen
00:00:34.580 saying, well, that's that.
00:00:37.900 So was Sky Valadez, trans as well,
00:00:41.940 released a song a few months before this
00:00:44.680 titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31.
00:00:48.180 And then they released a song titled
00:00:49.940 Charlie Kirk's death isn't enough for me.
00:00:52.260 We'll be going over the individual who said
00:00:54.060 September 10th is going to be a very interesting day.
00:00:56.120 And then I plead the fifth.
00:00:57.380 The person who said, Charlie Kirk doesn't know
00:00:59.720 what's going to happen tomorrow.
00:01:01.420 The person who said, wouldn't it be funny
00:01:03.400 if someone shot Charlie Kirk on September 10th?
00:01:05.900 If it is true that a large number of trans individuals
00:01:08.840 were aware of this attack before it happened,
00:01:11.840 that's something we need to introduce
00:01:13.820 into the public conversation.
00:01:15.780 This wouldn't be the first trans murder cult
00:01:17.800 that we've talked about on this show.
00:01:19.280 Look at the Zizians.
00:01:20.460 But if trans murder cults are becoming a thing,
00:01:22.660 that's something we need to be talking about.
00:01:24.920 Would you like to know more?
00:01:26.660 Hello, Simone.
00:01:27.780 I'm excited to be here with you today.
00:01:29.700 Today, we are going to be talking about
00:01:32.680 a number of things related to the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:01:36.200 I'm not excited about the assassination.
00:01:37.520 I already had the day where I said,
00:01:38.520 I'm not excited to be here with you today
00:01:39.740 because we were talking about that specifically.
00:01:42.260 And that's not what we're talking about today.
00:01:44.640 Today, we're going to talk about a few areas.
00:01:46.640 One, we are going to be talking about
00:01:48.760 a couple of convergent phenomenons
00:01:50.580 that are worth unpacking,
00:01:51.380 which is the huge array of people
00:01:53.840 who with their public accounts
00:01:55.820 are going out and saying,
00:01:58.600 I am glad that this happened.
00:02:01.620 I am glad that this person was killed
00:02:03.120 because of their, you know, very,
00:02:04.780 if you look at his actual beliefs,
00:02:06.020 instead of like the random out of context quotes
00:02:08.760 that you'll get from leftists,
00:02:10.140 he's just boomer conservative.
00:02:12.100 He's not new, right?
00:02:13.040 But he's very generic boomer conservative.
00:02:15.380 And these people are saying-
00:02:16.160 No, I would say he's even more open than that.
00:02:18.540 Or maybe hippie boomer conservative, yeah.
00:02:20.680 Hippie boomer conservative, yeah.
00:02:22.100 He is, if you're like,
00:02:23.720 I think people with those beliefs should be killed
00:02:26.560 because that's what you're saying.
00:02:27.820 Then you'd think most centrists in America
00:02:29.600 who are Christian should be killed, basically.
00:02:32.160 Yeah.
00:02:32.940 And the number of people,
00:02:35.400 like we're going to go over a number of teachers
00:02:36.720 who have done this,
00:02:37.540 a number of people who make video games
00:02:39.220 and like run studios.
00:02:40.120 We're going to go over people
00:02:40.860 in the medical field who have done this.
00:02:43.760 And two things are interesting.
00:02:45.580 One is that they feel that it's okay
00:02:47.060 to say something like,
00:02:48.240 I think mainstream conservatives should be killed
00:02:50.180 without realizing that that's what they're-
00:02:52.500 I mean, because they've been convinced
00:02:53.940 that mainstream conservatives are extremists
00:02:55.420 when they hold positions
00:02:56.160 that most Americans have hold
00:02:57.900 for the past 50 years.
00:03:00.640 Yeah.
00:03:00.780 You know, they one,
00:03:02.440 feel safe going out and doing this, right?
00:03:04.500 And by the way,
00:03:05.040 if you want to do something about this,
00:03:06.020 don't complain to HR.
00:03:07.380 And as McGold said,
00:03:08.200 don't go to the top of your company.
00:03:10.720 Go to OSHA and say you don't feel safe
00:03:12.880 because then the government has to do something.
00:03:14.860 I love that advice.
00:03:16.720 Yeah.
00:03:17.360 And the CEO is very likely to respond
00:03:19.860 if a company is getting a lot of OSHA complaints
00:03:21.320 and it can be done anonymously.
00:03:23.060 So you just say,
00:03:24.180 this person is saying
00:03:25.440 that they want to kill mainstream conservatives, right?
00:03:28.260 Or they think this is a good thing, right?
00:03:30.440 And I don't feel safe in this environment
00:03:32.200 and that will-
00:03:33.520 But the other thing that's interesting
00:03:34.400 is that people are even addressing this.
00:03:36.080 Like people are responding to this.
00:03:37.460 Like it feels like these people
00:03:40.040 wouldn't have been fired,
00:03:41.380 you know, three years ago
00:03:42.360 or something like that.
00:03:43.100 So we are now seeing a shift.
00:03:45.420 Like, it's like,
00:03:46.420 oh, well, this is just like you guys
00:03:48.060 where you said,
00:03:48.900 you know, trans people
00:03:49.880 are not a disenfranchised group
00:03:52.080 and in fact are a group in power
00:03:53.340 because they are a group
00:03:54.180 you are not allowed to criticize
00:03:55.640 or you could be fired.
00:03:57.180 Like if you misgender them,
00:03:58.020 you could be fired.
00:03:58.620 And I'm like,
00:03:59.900 there's a big difference
00:04:01.000 for being fired
00:04:01.720 for misgendering somebody
00:04:03.720 and celebrating
00:04:05.640 that somebody was shot
00:04:06.940 in front of their children
00:04:08.040 and saying that
00:04:09.160 that should happen again
00:04:10.400 in the future.
00:04:11.160 Like those are two categories
00:04:13.700 of what is being
00:04:14.960 mildly inconvenienced
00:04:16.640 and the other is
00:04:17.900 demanding genocide.
00:04:20.280 Well, and egging on
00:04:22.080 a complete degradation
00:04:24.120 or end to public civility
00:04:28.280 and safety in order
00:04:29.820 and law following.
00:04:31.200 But I also want to point out here,
00:04:32.620 and this is also really important,
00:04:33.980 is the people who are like,
00:04:35.180 well, then you should just
00:04:35.960 never say that anyone,
00:04:37.920 no matter what they're doing,
00:04:39.140 should be punished
00:04:40.840 in a way that is outside
00:04:41.940 of the legal system.
00:04:42.740 Like you are just out
00:04:43.560 against extrajudicial killings.
00:04:45.480 I'm absolutely not
00:04:46.420 because I think if we look
00:04:47.760 at where society is going
00:04:48.760 right now,
00:04:49.660 eventually we may need
00:04:51.580 to rise up, right?
00:04:53.100 Like we may need
00:04:54.120 to fight against this system
00:04:55.380 if it becomes too dictatorial,
00:04:56.740 if it becomes too controlling.
00:04:58.040 That may happen
00:04:59.020 within our lifetimes
00:04:59.840 and that involves
00:05:01.240 extrajudicial killings, right?
00:05:03.520 So these people who think
00:05:04.860 that they've just found
00:05:05.800 this safe position of,
00:05:07.540 oh, well, just never,
00:05:08.540 ever, ever rise up.
00:05:10.220 Just never, ever, ever revolt.
00:05:12.660 Well, then what happens, right?
00:05:14.560 Like you need to be like,
00:05:15.700 no, the problem
00:05:16.240 is not the extrajudicial
00:05:18.000 killing thing.
00:05:18.560 It's the extrajudicial killing
00:05:19.640 for like mainstream
00:05:20.620 normal beliefs.
00:05:22.020 That is psychotic,
00:05:23.320 especially beliefs
00:05:23.900 that aren't really hurting anyone.
00:05:25.760 When we can get to,
00:05:26.660 we got to that
00:05:27.200 in the last episode
00:05:27.800 where people will be like,
00:05:28.400 oh, we had all these beliefs
00:05:29.060 that hurt people.
00:05:29.580 No, we didn't.
00:05:30.220 It's very boomer
00:05:31.020 conservative stuff.
00:05:31.700 But anyway,
00:05:32.900 another thing I want to get to,
00:05:34.360 which is what we're going
00:05:34.800 to start with here,
00:05:35.360 because I found this
00:05:35.780 really fascinating,
00:05:37.000 is in the last episode,
00:05:38.740 I made the prediction
00:05:39.960 that I suspected
00:05:40.840 this person was going
00:05:42.100 to be trans
00:05:43.640 or have ties
00:05:44.420 to the trans community,
00:05:45.300 right?
00:05:45.460 Like this whiter
00:05:46.520 sort of trans community thing.
00:05:48.240 Comes out who this guy is,
00:05:49.600 everyone is saying,
00:05:50.520 Malcolm, you miscalled it.
00:05:51.760 Like, I don't like that
00:05:52.400 you get ahead of your skis
00:05:53.260 on this stuff.
00:05:53.780 And I'm like, no, no, no,
00:05:54.420 you have to get ahead
00:05:55.560 of your skis.
00:05:56.180 If you have a worldview,
00:05:58.360 right?
00:05:59.300 And this worldview
00:06:00.680 cannot predict future events,
00:06:03.020 right?
00:06:03.240 Like it's a non-predictive worldview.
00:06:05.120 It cannot give you insight
00:06:06.580 into why a country
00:06:09.020 is doing something
00:06:09.640 or what a country
00:06:10.340 is going to do next
00:06:10.860 or what a movement
00:06:11.420 is going to do next
00:06:12.120 or what type of person
00:06:12.860 is going to do X.
00:06:13.820 You do not have
00:06:14.580 a useful worldview.
00:06:15.760 Like that worldview
00:06:16.480 remains untested.
00:06:18.380 And so I made a prediction
00:06:19.220 that one group,
00:06:21.340 a very rare group
00:06:22.200 in the U.S.,
00:06:22.620 it makes up like 1.5%
00:06:23.880 of the U.S. population
00:06:24.520 was going to be involved in this.
00:06:25.540 Since the shooting
00:06:27.500 has happened,
00:06:28.260 some very interesting
00:06:29.320 things have happened
00:06:30.060 and people have done
00:06:30.860 more researching.
00:06:31.800 Obviously, the big one is,
00:06:33.320 but I actually think
00:06:33.900 that this might be
00:06:34.480 less important,
00:06:35.660 is that this person,
00:06:37.600 the person who they
00:06:38.520 were in a relationship with
00:06:39.640 and were living with
00:06:40.840 turned out to be
00:06:41.620 a trans person.
00:06:42.680 So do we have proof
00:06:44.180 that they're in a relationship?
00:06:44.940 Yes, the police have confirmed
00:06:46.520 they were in a relationship.
00:06:47.780 Whoa.
00:06:49.020 So this isn't like
00:06:49.880 random speculation anymore.
00:06:52.060 This is, I think it was like
00:06:52.740 the governor of Utah
00:06:53.820 specifically confirmed this.
00:06:55.780 So we'll get to that.
00:06:57.080 I actually think
00:06:57.660 that that person,
00:06:59.300 so a lot of people
00:07:00.000 have kept trying to be like,
00:07:01.800 oh, here's this trans person online
00:07:03.880 that seemed to have knowledge
00:07:05.580 of the shooting
00:07:06.440 before it happened.
00:07:07.800 This is this person's partner,
00:07:09.780 romantic partner account.
00:07:10.940 And then as we dig deeper,
00:07:12.040 it turns out,
00:07:12.520 no, they were actually
00:07:13.240 a different trans person
00:07:14.240 and not this person's partner.
00:07:15.780 So what we are finding
00:07:16.780 is it appears
00:07:18.000 that there were,
00:07:19.940 in addition to this person's partners,
00:07:21.640 three trans individuals
00:07:22.800 and no one who wasn't
00:07:24.000 a trans individual
00:07:24.520 who knew about this shooting
00:07:25.720 before it happened.
00:07:27.820 And a lot of them-
00:07:29.020 I thought a lot of people
00:07:29.720 were saying
00:07:30.080 because the roommate,
00:07:33.620 alleged partner,
00:07:35.160 was complicit in turning in-
00:07:39.140 The roommate was not complicit
00:07:40.880 in turning in.
00:07:41.560 Tyler Robinson.
00:07:41.840 The dad turned them in,
00:07:43.640 but the roommate has helped
00:07:44.820 give information to police
00:07:46.700 and has been very cooperative
00:07:47.880 with police.
00:07:48.420 So my actual wider read
00:07:51.300 that I can give a skip to
00:07:52.760 ahead of times
00:07:53.420 is I think that the person's
00:07:55.380 girlfriend slash boyfriend,
00:07:56.640 because they started dating
00:07:57.780 before they were transitioning
00:07:58.780 and now they're trans-
00:07:59.620 Anyway,
00:08:00.240 girlfriend slash boyfriend,
00:08:01.500 I think that they may have
00:08:02.660 actually not had anything
00:08:04.440 to do with it
00:08:05.120 and that other trans people
00:08:07.680 did have something to do with it,
00:08:09.060 but the girlfriend slash boyfriend
00:08:10.200 was the connection
00:08:11.040 between the assassin
00:08:13.320 and the wider Utah trans community
00:08:16.180 that was involved in this.
00:08:17.340 So let's get into
00:08:19.940 the evidence for this
00:08:20.660 because a lot of people
00:08:21.220 have been mixing up
00:08:23.020 parts of the evidence
00:08:23.780 in a way that leads people
00:08:25.460 to be like,
00:08:25.860 oh, this has been debunked
00:08:26.800 when it hasn't been debunked.
00:08:28.160 So let's start with
00:08:29.700 the Twitter account
00:08:30.820 Najara Galzan,
00:08:32.620 who goes by Omar.
00:08:34.200 So this individual
00:08:35.440 had tweeted
00:08:36.360 leading up to the rally,
00:08:38.160 Charlie Kirk is coming
00:08:39.040 to my college tomorrow.
00:08:40.300 I really hope someone
00:08:41.380 evaporates him literally.
00:08:43.400 Let's just say something big
00:08:45.340 will happen tomorrow.
00:08:46.120 Now, the problem
00:08:47.760 with these particular tweets
00:08:49.380 is they are real
00:08:50.680 and they are from
00:08:51.740 a trans individual's account,
00:08:53.820 but they have been paired
00:08:55.840 with a picture
00:08:57.000 of an individual,
00:08:58.760 a different trans individual
00:08:59.920 who is not
00:09:01.180 this Omar character
00:09:02.480 who just happens to be
00:09:04.160 like a lawyer
00:09:04.780 in San Francisco
00:09:05.580 or something like that.
00:09:06.780 And Omar had,
00:09:08.080 it wasn't done maliciously.
00:09:09.620 Note, Omar,
00:09:10.880 the Omar account
00:09:11.600 had retweeted
00:09:12.480 one of their,
00:09:13.380 this other trans individual's images.
00:09:14.800 So it was stuck
00:09:16.100 in like the Google Archive data
00:09:17.800 of what the individual,
00:09:20.320 like of a picture
00:09:21.500 associated with the account.
00:09:22.700 And so people were like,
00:09:23.560 oh, this is,
00:09:24.640 this is proof.
00:09:25.120 So no,
00:09:25.500 but it appears
00:09:26.340 that somebody did know,
00:09:27.320 right?
00:09:27.540 Like that,
00:09:28.040 that I don't get much.
00:09:30.320 I hope that somebody
00:09:31.500 evaporates him.
00:09:32.540 Let's just say something big
00:09:33.860 will happen tomorrow.
00:09:36.700 Right?
00:09:37.240 And this,
00:09:37.880 let's just say something big
00:09:38.760 will happen tomorrow.
00:09:39.540 We said in response
00:09:40.960 to their tweet,
00:09:42.300 Charlie Kirk is coming
00:09:43.060 to my college tomorrow.
00:09:43.860 I really hope somebody
00:09:44.460 evaporates him literally.
00:09:45.800 So that indicates
00:09:47.120 foreknowledge
00:09:48.340 of what was going to happen.
00:09:50.400 And note here,
00:09:50.820 I'm saying this is actually
00:09:51.500 pretty big,
00:09:51.880 that I was able to call
00:09:52.860 that a like 1% population
00:09:54.760 was going to be involved
00:09:55.880 in this.
00:09:56.660 And Charlie Kirk,
00:09:57.260 and you could be like,
00:09:57.740 well,
00:09:57.820 that's who Charlie Kirk attacked.
00:09:58.840 Charlie Kirk doesn't talk about it.
00:10:00.300 Like Charlie Kirk is actually
00:10:01.620 much more focused
00:10:02.320 on other communities,
00:10:03.060 like the general gay community,
00:10:04.620 for example,
00:10:05.180 than the trans community
00:10:06.120 or,
00:10:06.620 you know,
00:10:07.280 on pro-right,
00:10:09.400 pro-life advocacy groups
00:10:11.200 and stuff like that.
00:10:12.420 This was a minority community.
00:10:13.760 And I note here
00:10:14.340 that this comes in relation
00:10:15.540 to something I've noted
00:10:16.240 in the 90s.
00:10:16.900 In the 90s,
00:10:18.000 when conservatives
00:10:18.640 would go out
00:10:19.580 and actually murder progressives,
00:10:21.960 which they did occasionally
00:10:23.040 with bombings
00:10:23.880 and stuff like that,
00:10:24.820 it wasn't over
00:10:26.100 like a variety of topics.
00:10:27.600 It like,
00:10:28.220 wasn't the environmentalists.
00:10:29.720 It was always abortion,
00:10:30.840 wasn't it?
00:10:31.800 Always abortion.
00:10:32.860 Always abortion.
00:10:33.400 That was the one thing
00:10:34.440 that got you murdered.
00:10:35.460 And I understand
00:10:37.460 how they justified it
00:10:38.320 to themselves.
00:10:38.720 They were saying,
00:10:39.260 well,
00:10:39.340 this person is murdering people,
00:10:40.860 therefore I have the right
00:10:41.540 to murder them.
00:10:42.700 With the trans community,
00:10:44.620 they believe that
00:10:45.500 having different beliefs
00:10:46.940 in them is literally
00:10:47.780 murdering trans community members,
00:10:49.680 which is,
00:10:50.700 I see,
00:10:51.740 I can see.
00:10:53.060 That's the argument made.
00:10:54.640 But it's not true.
00:10:55.760 Yeah,
00:10:56.680 yeah.
00:10:57.020 I mean,
00:10:57.320 it's widely disproven
00:10:58.940 that trans people
00:11:00.760 who are blocked
00:11:01.580 from undergoing transition
00:11:02.740 end their lives.
00:11:04.360 But that's still
00:11:05.740 the argument made.
00:11:06.500 That's still the belief held
00:11:07.600 that not transitioning
00:11:08.880 is dead.
00:11:09.540 It's not true.
00:11:10.360 Like,
00:11:10.520 in the community,
00:11:11.240 it's a belief that it's true.
00:11:11.980 But it's like,
00:11:12.680 the UK banned puberty blockers
00:11:14.320 and within the community,
00:11:15.740 unaliving rates
00:11:16.280 haven't gone up,
00:11:16.880 right?
00:11:17.080 Like,
00:11:17.320 we know that.
00:11:17.560 Yeah,
00:11:17.780 but I mean,
00:11:18.120 remember the counter argument
00:11:20.060 to conservatives,
00:11:22.720 Christians,
00:11:23.980 killing people,
00:11:24.900 going to abortion clinics
00:11:26.180 was,
00:11:27.440 yeah,
00:11:27.600 but it's not true
00:11:28.480 that they're alive,
00:11:29.880 right?
00:11:30.160 Right.
00:11:30.560 So,
00:11:30.940 I'm just saying,
00:11:32.320 like,
00:11:32.600 people have different,
00:11:33.580 very different skewed views
00:11:34.840 of the world
00:11:35.400 and,
00:11:36.540 yeah,
00:11:36.840 that's how it always seems to be.
00:11:37.680 But this is why
00:11:39.300 when somebody was killed,
00:11:40.520 I was like,
00:11:41.020 okay,
00:11:41.300 a feminist didn't do this
00:11:42.520 because feminists
00:11:43.140 don't go out
00:11:43.700 and murder people
00:11:44.360 like this,
00:11:44.880 right?
00:11:45.480 I was like,
00:11:46.020 a gay person
00:11:46.940 was unlikely to do this
00:11:47.820 because,
00:11:48.100 like,
00:11:48.800 I can't think of the last,
00:11:50.060 you know,
00:11:50.260 just generically gay person
00:11:51.720 who killed people
00:11:52.340 for being anti-gay.
00:11:53.400 I don't think that's happened
00:11:54.260 in,
00:11:54.520 like,
00:11:54.560 a decade.
00:11:55.560 I don't,
00:11:55.800 I,
00:11:56.060 that might not have happened
00:11:56.860 ever,
00:11:57.440 now that I think about it.
00:11:58.680 I mean,
00:11:59.100 it must have happened somewhere
00:12:00.000 but it's just,
00:12:00.740 like,
00:12:00.800 not a common thing.
00:12:01.820 It's,
00:12:02.020 it's not a,
00:12:02.540 you know,
00:12:03.140 but with this community
00:12:04.800 we see this regularly
00:12:05.580 and you can go to our video
00:12:06.320 My Gender Identity is Murder
00:12:07.420 where we talk about this.
00:12:08.960 Somebody on Twitter
00:12:09.700 was,
00:12:10.060 like,
00:12:10.760 emailing us
00:12:11.320 to try to be,
00:12:12.020 like,
00:12:12.220 like,
00:12:12.440 retweeting all of our things
00:12:13.600 being,
00:12:13.900 like,
00:12:13.960 trans people do not
00:12:14.900 mass murder
00:12:15.400 at a higher rate
00:12:16.040 than other communities
00:12:16.740 and we,
00:12:17.560 like,
00:12:17.700 on that episode
00:12:18.420 go over the math,
00:12:19.560 like,
00:12:19.800 in detail
00:12:20.440 and they're,
00:12:21.180 like,
00:12:21.260 no,
00:12:21.600 Grok agrees with me
00:12:22.460 and it's,
00:12:22.680 like,
00:12:23.160 Grok was pulling
00:12:23.960 from PolitiFact,
00:12:24.980 like,
00:12:25.480 a well-known,
00:12:26.500 like,
00:12:26.880 left-wing grift organization
00:12:28.480 that regularly
00:12:29.220 manipulates data,
00:12:30.240 like,
00:12:30.820 it said,
00:12:31.480 I'm pulling from PolitiFact.
00:12:32.680 Why don't you just
00:12:33.300 run the numbers yourself?
00:12:34.600 It's easy to do the math.
00:12:36.500 Well,
00:12:36.620 that's because
00:12:37.180 the prompt to Grok
00:12:39.680 was,
00:12:40.520 disprove these liars.
00:12:43.020 Oh,
00:12:43.220 that's what it was?
00:12:43.920 The only,
00:12:44.500 yeah,
00:12:44.780 the only answer
00:12:45.760 that Grok could give
00:12:47.080 was one
00:12:47.800 that dis,
00:12:48.700 that disagreed
00:12:50.120 with our argument.
00:12:51.280 AI psychosis
00:12:52.480 right there.
00:12:53.420 So just
00:12:53.900 present evidence
00:12:55.400 that they're wrong
00:12:56.420 was the prompt.
00:12:57.560 I'm right,
00:12:58.100 yes.
00:12:58.620 Yeah.
00:12:59.460 I actually used Grok
00:13:00.700 for the research
00:13:01.980 on that episode.
00:13:02.680 I was like,
00:13:03.040 pull up the number
00:13:03.760 of,
00:13:04.260 you know,
00:13:04.860 trans mass shooters,
00:13:06.300 what's the percentage
00:13:07.340 in the population?
00:13:08.140 But I think most,
00:13:09.040 or at least a lot
00:13:09.880 of people using AI
00:13:11.080 use it for confirmation bias.
00:13:12.980 They don't use it
00:13:13.420 for information finding.
00:13:15.140 Yeah.
00:13:16.860 Okay,
00:13:17.380 so to go over
00:13:18.020 some other tweets here
00:13:18.920 that I think are interesting.
00:13:20.220 Skylar Webster
00:13:21.120 at Fuji
00:13:22.380 Incel
00:13:23.600 posts five days
00:13:24.900 before September 10th
00:13:25.920 assassination.
00:13:27.200 They were a far,
00:13:28.780 they're described
00:13:29.420 as a radical
00:13:29.960 far left trans individual
00:13:31.040 from the University
00:13:31.640 of Washington
00:13:32.120 high school student
00:13:33.060 posted,
00:13:34.320 you guys,
00:13:35.060 I have something big,
00:13:36.120 big in all caps
00:13:36.920 coming soon.
00:13:38.260 Just be sure
00:13:38.820 to check the news.
00:13:39.880 You'll know it
00:13:40.300 when you see it.
00:13:41.220 In quote.
00:13:42.320 Immediately after
00:13:43.300 the shooting,
00:13:44.400 they quote tweeted
00:13:45.560 that other quote
00:13:46.800 saying something big
00:13:48.240 is about to happen
00:13:49.040 saying,
00:13:50.600 well,
00:13:50.900 that's that.
00:13:52.260 Another one
00:13:52.900 bites the dust
00:13:54.080 or another chud
00:13:54.840 bites the tusks
00:13:55.660 followed by a
00:13:56.900 celebratory message.
00:13:57.700 So they were
00:13:58.160 re quote tweeting
00:13:59.680 their own tweet
00:14:01.640 saying something's
00:14:02.840 about to happen.
00:14:04.520 Man,
00:14:05.140 when you're like
00:14:05.700 complicit in
00:14:06.580 murder,
00:14:08.600 shouldn't you
00:14:09.200 keep your
00:14:09.960 mouth shut?
00:14:11.300 I mean,
00:14:11.540 only half of murders
00:14:12.740 are solved in the U.S.,
00:14:14.060 right?
00:14:14.360 Yeah,
00:14:16.420 like this is like
00:14:17.220 dumb.
00:14:17.960 Well,
00:14:18.120 so the actual
00:14:18.660 guy who did
00:14:20.140 the assassination,
00:14:21.540 he was like
00:14:22.000 top 1%
00:14:22.900 on like
00:14:23.420 ACTs.
00:14:24.400 He was from
00:14:25.140 like a
00:14:25.500 Mormon
00:14:26.240 conservative
00:14:27.660 like
00:14:28.220 MAGA family.
00:14:29.280 He seemed
00:14:29.680 like a decent
00:14:30.440 guy all throughout
00:14:31.080 high school,
00:14:31.660 all throughout
00:14:31.880 middle school.
00:14:32.320 Like everyone's
00:14:32.720 like,
00:14:33.140 he was a really
00:14:33.960 upstanding guy.
00:14:34.980 Goes to college,
00:14:36.400 gets radicalized.
00:14:37.740 And I've noticed
00:14:38.680 this as well,
00:14:39.740 where I've noticed
00:14:40.340 more radicalization
00:14:41.520 in the people
00:14:42.200 who long-term
00:14:42.960 date trans individuals
00:14:44.020 and the trans
00:14:44.580 individuals
00:14:44.920 themselves.
00:14:45.940 And I don't
00:14:46.600 know what's
00:14:47.680 causing this.
00:14:48.700 It might be
00:14:49.360 that like
00:14:49.840 because you
00:14:51.340 have to take
00:14:51.980 sort of a
00:14:52.400 submissive position
00:14:53.500 to their
00:14:54.500 ideology,
00:14:55.720 I mean,
00:14:55.960 you don't want
00:14:56.380 the cognitive
00:14:56.780 dissonance of
00:14:57.420 like there's
00:14:57.800 something like
00:14:58.520 they're doing
00:14:59.120 this hurting
00:14:59.480 themselves or
00:15:00.200 whatever.
00:15:00.960 You become
00:15:01.560 even more
00:15:02.220 extreme in
00:15:02.660 the ideology.
00:15:03.920 Well,
00:15:04.140 I think
00:15:04.420 actually it
00:15:05.100 has to do
00:15:05.720 more with
00:15:06.860 a feeling
00:15:08.380 of impunity
00:15:09.080 when you're
00:15:09.580 acting selflessly.
00:15:10.940 Like instead
00:15:11.300 of acting
00:15:11.900 in your own
00:15:12.620 self-
00:15:13.100 I'm not
00:15:15.560 doing this
00:15:16.160 for me
00:15:16.840 because you're
00:15:18.040 still seen
00:15:18.780 as selfish
00:15:20.220 even in a
00:15:20.840 game of
00:15:21.360 oppression
00:15:21.840 Olympics.
00:15:22.220 If you're
00:15:22.840 acting on
00:15:23.300 behalf of
00:15:23.760 your own
00:15:24.180 interest
00:15:24.560 group,
00:15:25.800 you have
00:15:26.800 more moral
00:15:27.840 impunity
00:15:28.420 per leftist
00:15:29.200 ideology if
00:15:30.620 you are acting
00:15:31.220 on behalf
00:15:31.760 of other
00:15:32.640 groups.
00:15:32.940 This is why
00:15:33.380 white Karens
00:15:34.320 in general
00:15:35.100 on the left,
00:15:36.540 well,
00:15:36.780 and on the
00:15:37.060 right,
00:15:37.300 but like
00:15:37.600 especially on
00:15:38.520 the left
00:15:38.820 in this
00:15:39.200 context
00:15:40.160 are so
00:15:41.260 uniquely
00:15:41.840 virulent
00:15:42.500 because they
00:15:43.800 believe they
00:15:44.660 are justified
00:15:45.220 in doing
00:15:45.640 anything
00:15:46.220 because they
00:15:46.680 are selflessly
00:15:47.840 arguing
00:15:48.580 in favor
00:15:50.580 of the people
00:15:51.520 that they
00:15:52.120 don't represent.
00:15:53.180 The director
00:15:53.600 that came to
00:15:53.940 our house
00:15:54.180 that was in
00:15:54.700 this group
00:15:55.520 of people,
00:15:55.960 she was
00:15:56.900 arguing on
00:15:57.460 behalf of
00:15:57.900 like,
00:15:58.120 oh,
00:15:58.380 the poor
00:15:58.960 Hispanic
00:15:59.820 population
00:16:00.580 and all
00:16:01.080 this horrible
00:16:01.560 stuff and
00:16:01.980 I'm like,
00:16:02.640 the majority
00:16:03.120 of Hispanic
00:16:03.640 men voted
00:16:04.160 for Trump
00:16:04.620 and he told
00:16:05.200 people he
00:16:05.600 was going
00:16:05.860 to do
00:16:06.080 this,
00:16:06.400 right?
00:16:06.560 Like,
00:16:07.280 you are
00:16:08.060 pretending
00:16:08.760 like speaking
00:16:09.680 on behalf
00:16:10.120 of another
00:16:10.560 group that
00:16:11.100 doesn't even
00:16:11.680 agree with
00:16:12.100 you.
00:16:12.260 You're speaking
00:16:12.760 against their
00:16:13.360 own asserted
00:16:14.840 self-interest.
00:16:16.300 Yeah,
00:16:16.460 well,
00:16:16.600 and you're
00:16:16.800 also ignoring
00:16:17.600 the,
00:16:18.900 to use your
00:16:19.400 own terminology,
00:16:20.120 I guess,
00:16:20.420 the lived
00:16:20.780 experience of
00:16:21.960 so many
00:16:23.120 people from
00:16:24.060 Latin America
00:16:24.820 and Central
00:16:25.460 America who
00:16:26.060 are either
00:16:26.240 going through
00:16:26.740 the process
00:16:27.340 of legally
00:16:27.800 immigrating
00:16:28.240 now or
00:16:28.580 who have
00:16:28.840 recently
00:16:29.180 gone through
00:16:29.740 the process
00:16:30.720 of legally
00:16:31.180 immigrating,
00:16:31.700 spending
00:16:31.940 tens of
00:16:32.420 thousands of
00:16:32.860 dollars that
00:16:33.560 they can't
00:16:34.380 afford to do
00:16:35.360 this all
00:16:35.740 correctly.
00:16:36.560 Only to
00:16:37.980 see a
00:16:38.400 whole bunch
00:16:38.740 of other
00:16:39.040 people jump
00:16:40.240 the lines,
00:16:40.960 cheat the
00:16:41.320 system,
00:16:41.700 and then be
00:16:42.020 given money.
00:16:43.400 I felt so
00:16:44.380 disgusted seeing
00:16:45.080 this woman talk
00:16:45.660 on behalf of
00:16:46.440 the Latin
00:16:46.680 American community
00:16:47.420 when she knew
00:16:48.080 that our
00:16:48.720 primary friend
00:16:49.740 network is
00:16:50.160 Latin American.
00:16:50.760 That is most
00:16:52.360 of our friends.
00:16:53.580 Not just most
00:16:54.060 of our friends,
00:16:54.460 but Bruno,
00:16:55.320 who works on
00:16:55.700 rfab.ai with
00:16:56.540 me,
00:16:56.800 and the team
00:16:57.340 working on
00:16:57.720 that is Latin
00:16:58.240 America.
00:16:58.760 Our company
00:16:59.300 is based
00:16:59.800 out of Peru.
00:17:01.000 He's based
00:17:01.620 out of Brazil
00:17:02.360 is where we're
00:17:02.800 doing that work
00:17:03.320 out of.
00:17:03.540 My first
00:17:05.620 kid's
00:17:06.080 godfather is
00:17:06.900 a Latin
00:17:07.420 American
00:17:07.660 immigrant.
00:17:08.540 We work
00:17:09.340 with the
00:17:09.560 Latin
00:17:09.680 American
00:17:09.900 community.
00:17:10.880 It was
00:17:11.320 very clear
00:17:11.680 to me that
00:17:11.980 I don't
00:17:12.160 think she
00:17:12.400 had any
00:17:12.740 Latin
00:17:12.920 American
00:17:13.120 friends.
00:17:14.160 Her
00:17:14.500 entire
00:17:15.080 team was
00:17:16.540 white
00:17:16.860 women,
00:17:17.240 like Karen's.
00:17:17.800 It was
00:17:17.960 the Karen
00:17:18.500 police.
00:17:18.840 I think
00:17:20.600 if one
00:17:21.360 of them
00:17:21.560 had been
00:17:22.140 Latin
00:17:22.320 American,
00:17:22.640 she would
00:17:22.820 have felt
00:17:23.040 less
00:17:23.280 comfortable
00:17:23.640 saying
00:17:24.360 stuff
00:17:24.640 like
00:17:24.780 that.
00:17:25.760 You
00:17:26.120 actually
00:17:26.400 pointed out
00:17:26.740 to me,
00:17:26.940 which I thought
00:17:27.160 was a very
00:17:27.580 funny and
00:17:28.020 interesting
00:17:28.280 observation,
00:17:29.000 is in the
00:17:29.580 90s,
00:17:30.120 they'd always
00:17:30.460 have these
00:17:30.800 interracial
00:17:31.920 friend groups
00:17:32.400 where one
00:17:32.980 is Asian
00:17:33.460 and one
00:17:33.840 is Black
00:17:34.280 and one
00:17:34.640 is Hispanic.
00:17:35.100 Like on TV
00:17:35.580 shows.
00:17:36.120 That was their
00:17:36.740 way to show
00:17:37.200 diversity.
00:17:38.260 You're like,
00:17:39.680 but in reality,
00:17:41.300 if you've ever
00:17:41.860 been in a
00:17:42.360 friend group
00:17:42.660 like that,
00:17:43.280 you know that
00:17:43.840 there is no
00:17:44.560 more racist
00:17:45.300 friend group
00:17:45.920 than a
00:17:46.300 friend group
00:17:46.620 like that.
00:17:47.180 That'd be
00:17:47.460 the most
00:17:47.760 based racist
00:17:48.620 friend group
00:17:49.720 ever.
00:17:50.860 And this is
00:17:52.140 the thing,
00:17:52.640 and I think
00:17:53.000 there was
00:17:53.340 the study
00:17:53.940 that we went
00:17:54.440 over in another
00:17:55.400 episode that
00:17:55.800 showed that
00:17:56.180 conservatives
00:17:56.600 have more
00:17:57.060 interracial
00:17:57.840 friends than
00:17:58.360 progressives do.
00:17:59.860 I've got to
00:18:00.240 find that
00:18:00.900 somewhere.
00:18:01.580 But it's
00:18:02.340 in part
00:18:02.760 because of
00:18:03.320 this.
00:18:03.560 Once you
00:18:04.020 enter this
00:18:04.820 post-racist
00:18:06.960 world,
00:18:07.880 I think
00:18:08.740 there's the
00:18:09.380 racist,
00:18:09.940 there's the
00:18:10.180 anti-racist,
00:18:10.920 and then
00:18:11.120 there's the
00:18:11.580 post-racist.
00:18:13.020 The way I
00:18:13.940 feel it now,
00:18:14.720 at least
00:18:15.020 the feeling
00:18:16.660 I get
00:18:17.180 from the
00:18:17.720 id of
00:18:18.240 the United
00:18:18.520 States is
00:18:19.160 that we
00:18:19.400 are all
00:18:20.000 stifled under
00:18:21.700 this heavy
00:18:22.360 wet wool
00:18:23.200 blanket of
00:18:25.220 racial dysphoria
00:18:28.540 or racist
00:18:30.080 dysphoria,
00:18:30.860 and then
00:18:31.180 beneath it
00:18:31.820 is just
00:18:32.240 this itching
00:18:33.320 racist euphoria
00:18:35.040 where people
00:18:35.780 just 100%
00:18:37.760 work together,
00:18:38.960 whatever,
00:18:39.460 but just,
00:18:40.760 you know.
00:18:41.280 like the
00:18:42.120 director lady
00:18:42.820 we had over
00:18:43.200 said racist,
00:18:44.240 like constantly
00:18:45.400 she was saying
00:18:45.820 racist and
00:18:46.300 sexist stuff.
00:18:47.080 Like,
00:18:47.580 aren't you
00:18:48.200 afraid,
00:18:49.320 ashamed to
00:18:49.800 be white,
00:18:50.560 you know.
00:18:51.400 Aren't you ashamed
00:18:52.040 of your white
00:18:52.600 privilege?
00:18:53.880 Yeah,
00:18:54.180 no,
00:18:54.440 this is stuff
00:18:55.620 like imagine
00:18:56.020 if you said
00:18:56.560 like,
00:18:57.260 one person
00:18:57.920 was like,
00:18:58.160 I'm ashamed
00:18:58.440 to be white.
00:18:58.920 I'm like,
00:18:59.120 imagine if a
00:18:59.600 black person
00:18:59.980 was like,
00:19:00.300 I'm ashamed
00:19:00.640 to be black.
00:19:01.140 You'd say
00:19:01.420 they have
00:19:01.700 internalized
00:19:02.140 racism,
00:19:02.600 right?
00:19:03.220 Like,
00:19:03.340 this is just
00:19:03.840 racism.
00:19:04.460 But she
00:19:04.940 like was
00:19:05.420 getting off
00:19:06.020 on being racist
00:19:06.660 all the time
00:19:07.120 because she
00:19:07.460 thought she could
00:19:08.160 like get
00:19:08.840 away with
00:19:09.220 it in a
00:19:09.560 modern context.
00:19:10.540 Which was
00:19:11.200 just like,
00:19:12.120 it's hilarious
00:19:12.920 how frequently
00:19:13.900 like Wokies
00:19:14.820 act just
00:19:15.780 like transparently
00:19:16.540 racist when
00:19:17.160 they think
00:19:17.460 they can get
00:19:17.780 away with
00:19:18.060 it.
00:19:18.220 Like this
00:19:18.420 like deep
00:19:18.900 desire to
00:19:19.580 be racist
00:19:20.020 all the
00:19:20.320 time.
00:19:21.440 But anyway,
00:19:22.740 I'm gonna
00:19:23.100 keep going
00:19:23.400 with this
00:19:23.640 conversation
00:19:24.040 here.
00:19:25.700 So this
00:19:26.620 topic exploded
00:19:27.500 a bit after
00:19:28.080 we recorded
00:19:28.780 this episode
00:19:29.440 with a number
00:19:30.160 of other
00:19:30.540 instances coming
00:19:31.380 to light.
00:19:32.360 Specifically,
00:19:33.260 there was a
00:19:33.860 TikToker on
00:19:34.560 a trans account
00:19:35.260 that said
00:19:36.080 this was
00:19:36.980 somebody called
00:19:37.620 at definitely
00:19:38.320 not Jackson.
00:19:39.780 Charlie Kirk,
00:19:40.680 Mr. College
00:19:41.260 Dropout,
00:19:41.840 does not know
00:19:42.420 what's coming
00:19:42.840 tomorrow.
00:19:43.620 Be ready.
00:19:44.520 This isn't a
00:19:45.200 threat.
00:19:45.580 It's a promise.
00:19:46.520 There were
00:19:47.380 also two
00:19:48.380 other accounts.
00:19:49.740 One that
00:19:50.660 was titled
00:19:51.420 Tally Halibum,
00:19:53.160 which on
00:19:54.140 September 3rd,
00:19:55.300 2025,
00:19:56.160 a week before
00:19:56.720 the shooting,
00:19:57.860 posted,
00:19:58.820 it would be
00:19:59.180 funny if
00:19:59.720 someone like
00:20:00.220 Charlie Kirk
00:20:00.840 got shot on
00:20:01.620 September 10th
00:20:02.520 LMAO.
00:20:03.780 Was this
00:20:04.260 individual?
00:20:05.040 We don't know
00:20:05.880 if they're trans
00:20:06.580 or not,
00:20:06.920 but the FBI
00:20:07.560 suspects they
00:20:08.400 are because
00:20:08.840 they're doing
00:20:09.200 an investigation
00:20:09.760 into this.
00:20:11.220 And then
00:20:11.740 another one
00:20:12.360 at Altog
00:20:13.380 on August 6th,
00:20:15.080 2025,
00:20:16.000 about a month
00:20:16.400 before the
00:20:16.900 shooting,
00:20:17.740 the account
00:20:18.180 posted,
00:20:19.100 September 10th
00:20:19.940 will be a
00:20:20.260 very interesting
00:20:20.900 day.
00:20:21.820 A follow-up
00:20:22.580 after the
00:20:23.580 shooting said,
00:20:24.300 I plead the
00:20:24.820 fifth in
00:20:25.820 relation to
00:20:26.420 the previous
00:20:26.880 post.
00:20:27.560 This post
00:20:28.120 also reposted
00:20:29.120 another account
00:20:29.800 that we'll be
00:20:30.140 talking about
00:20:30.460 in a second,
00:20:30.940 the Cherbom75
00:20:32.300 account,
00:20:33.300 which was
00:20:34.080 another
00:20:35.160 transgender
00:20:35.700 individual.
00:20:36.140 This person,
00:20:37.640 the Altog of
00:20:38.580 the people who
00:20:39.200 knew about this
00:20:39.780 beforehand,
00:20:40.300 is the only one
00:20:41.100 that claims to
00:20:41.780 be a cis man,
00:20:43.120 although they do
00:20:44.220 say that they
00:20:45.060 used they-them
00:20:46.240 pronouns for a
00:20:47.300 while,
00:20:47.740 but had recently
00:20:48.760 moved back.
00:20:49.740 And I'd point out
00:20:50.460 here for people
00:20:50.940 who are too deep
00:20:51.500 to realize this,
00:20:52.540 using they-them
00:20:53.200 pronouns is not
00:20:54.200 like dipping your
00:20:55.220 toes in the
00:20:56.000 trans community.
00:20:56.640 You have to be
00:20:57.360 pretty deep in
00:20:58.340 the community
00:20:58.840 to use not
00:21:00.660 just like he,
00:21:01.680 her,
00:21:02.120 or whatever,
00:21:03.480 to use like
00:21:04.380 neo-pronouns.
00:21:05.680 So in a
00:21:07.100 steam group
00:21:08.380 that was titled
00:21:09.420 Read This If
00:21:09.980 You're Gay,
00:21:10.420 which was like
00:21:10.820 for like memes
00:21:11.660 and stuff,
00:21:12.540 September 10th,
00:21:13.620 2025,
00:21:14.860 1124.
00:21:16.000 So-
00:21:16.360 Oh,
00:21:16.660 so is that what
00:21:17.580 that one bullet
00:21:18.200 engraving was?
00:21:19.040 If you're reading
00:21:19.460 this,
00:21:19.720 you are gay?
00:21:21.440 Oh yeah,
00:21:22.060 he mentioned
00:21:22.560 the steam group
00:21:23.500 in the bullet.
00:21:24.480 I hadn't even
00:21:25.000 noticed that.
00:21:25.460 If you're reading
00:21:25.680 this,
00:21:26.000 you are gay,
00:21:26.500 lol,
00:21:26.780 something like that,
00:21:27.480 right?
00:21:27.600 It's a common
00:21:28.180 meme,
00:21:28.680 but in the
00:21:29.240 group referenced
00:21:30.060 on the shell
00:21:30.720 casing,
00:21:31.480 right?
00:21:32.540 That he was
00:21:33.100 a member of
00:21:33.920 before the
00:21:35.760 assassination
00:21:36.240 happened.
00:21:36.700 Oh no,
00:21:36.980 sorry.
00:21:37.520 This was
00:21:37.900 mere hours
00:21:38.920 after the
00:21:39.900 fatal shooting.
00:21:40.560 So around
00:21:40.920 7pm that
00:21:41.500 evening,
00:21:42.440 but crucially
00:21:43.280 before the
00:21:44.240 suspect's arrest
00:21:45.600 or acknowledgement.
00:21:46.700 So he was a
00:21:47.520 member of this
00:21:47.960 group.
00:21:48.620 The group
00:21:49.080 didn't,
00:21:50.640 you know,
00:21:51.240 publicly,
00:21:52.120 would have had
00:21:52.620 no way of
00:21:53.080 knowing that he
00:21:53.760 was involved in
00:21:54.440 this,
00:21:54.900 presumably,
00:21:55.580 right?
00:21:56.440 So it was a
00:21:56.780 group that was
00:21:57.220 focused on
00:21:58.220 furry and
00:21:59.080 LGBTQ plus
00:22:00.340 subculture.
00:22:01.420 A poster
00:22:01.920 named
00:22:02.620 Cherry
00:22:03.680 Sevlon,
00:22:05.020 who unfortunately
00:22:05.920 wasn't able to
00:22:06.440 get any other
00:22:06.860 information on,
00:22:08.200 said,
00:22:08.600 be careful over
00:22:09.420 your SHIT,
00:22:11.140 you say,
00:22:11.800 online,
00:22:12.680 end-to-end
00:22:13.260 encryption messaging
00:22:14.180 platforms like
00:22:15.580 Signal exists for
00:22:16.740 reasons,
00:22:17.500 or just use
00:22:18.620 PGP,
00:22:19.880 and yes,
00:22:20.580 this is directly
00:22:21.640 referencing a very
00:22:22.660 specific thing
00:22:23.400 that happened.
00:22:23.900 Oh,
00:22:25.180 that's,
00:22:26.100 as Octavian
00:22:27.100 would say,
00:22:28.000 sus.
00:22:29.180 Sus.
00:22:29.900 No,
00:22:30.240 it's not
00:22:30.660 sus,
00:22:31.060 it's basically
00:22:31.720 admitting.
00:22:32.280 It was after
00:22:33.100 the shooting,
00:22:33.860 the member
00:22:34.260 was there,
00:22:35.140 it referenced
00:22:35.600 the group
00:22:35.940 on the
00:22:36.240 shell casings,
00:22:37.220 that hadn't
00:22:37.860 been announced
00:22:38.360 at the time
00:22:39.200 yet,
00:22:40.060 and one member
00:22:40.640 of the group
00:22:41.060 is like,
00:22:41.740 hey guys,
00:22:42.600 just make sure
00:22:43.100 you don't talk
00:22:43.580 about this
00:22:43.900 publicly.
00:22:44.840 So it meant
00:22:45.360 that this was
00:22:45.800 being discussed
00:22:46.620 within the
00:22:47.100 community,
00:22:47.620 right?
00:22:48.320 This was
00:22:48.700 something that
00:22:49.100 a lot of
00:22:49.660 people knew
00:22:50.180 about before
00:22:50.820 it happened.
00:22:51.360 So was
00:22:52.900 Sky Balladez.
00:22:55.140 They are a
00:22:55.720 Utah-based
00:22:56.500 musician and
00:22:57.360 photographer and
00:22:58.520 trans as well,
00:22:59.500 and they are a
00:23:00.480 one-woman noise
00:23:01.300 metal band
00:23:02.240 called God's
00:23:02.940 Finest Scalpel,
00:23:03.880 and they appear
00:23:04.680 to work as
00:23:05.120 like a
00:23:05.720 tattooist.
00:23:07.460 Anyway,
00:23:08.140 they released
00:23:09.820 a song in
00:23:11.080 August 2025,
00:23:12.300 so a few
00:23:12.700 months before
00:23:13.340 this,
00:23:14.380 titled
00:23:14.820 Charlie Kirk
00:23:15.800 Dead at
00:23:16.520 31,
00:23:17.960 and then
00:23:18.860 in April
00:23:19.620 2025,
00:23:20.260 they released
00:23:21.660 a song
00:23:21.980 titled
00:23:22.380 Charlie Kirk's
00:23:23.220 Death Isn't
00:23:23.880 Enough for
00:23:24.260 Me,
00:23:24.920 and Death
00:23:25.680 to American
00:23:26.320 Scum.
00:23:27.600 So,
00:23:28.240 he was
00:23:29.240 killed at
00:23:29.920 31.
00:23:30.540 So,
00:23:31.120 this was a
00:23:31.560 I thought he
00:23:31.700 was 32.
00:23:33.020 Was he
00:23:33.380 32?
00:23:34.100 Mm-hmm.
00:23:34.760 Let's look it
00:23:35.080 up.
00:23:35.440 October 14,
00:23:36.340 1993.
00:23:37.720 God,
00:23:38.040 we're old.
00:23:38.960 Age of
00:23:39.220 death,
00:23:39.420 31 years.
00:23:39.980 I was wrong.
00:23:40.760 Told you.
00:23:41.900 So,
00:23:42.280 yeah,
00:23:42.520 so this
00:23:43.500 individual
00:23:43.900 appeared to
00:23:44.580 know ahead
00:23:46.260 of time,
00:23:46.600 months ahead
00:23:46.920 of time,
00:23:47.400 when Charlie Kirk
00:23:48.180 was going to
00:23:48.460 be killed.
00:23:48.980 And keep in
00:23:49.620 mind,
00:23:49.780 you can be
00:23:50.140 like,
00:23:50.680 it could be
00:23:51.320 a random
00:23:52.060 coincidence
00:23:52.920 that this
00:23:53.780 person knew.
00:23:54.740 I'm like,
00:23:55.340 okay,
00:23:56.160 let's go
00:23:57.400 back here a
00:23:58.000 bit.
00:23:58.480 This was a
00:23:59.300 trans individual.
00:24:00.760 Everyone who
00:24:01.260 seemed to know
00:24:01.720 beforehand was a
00:24:02.460 trans individual
00:24:03.040 in Utah.
00:24:05.380 So,
00:24:06.360 that's an
00:24:07.200 unusual trans
00:24:08.260 community as
00:24:08.900 well,
00:24:09.200 like the
00:24:09.520 exmo trans
00:24:10.360 community,
00:24:11.020 right,
00:24:11.800 around this
00:24:12.800 university.
00:24:14.040 Like,
00:24:15.560 you still
00:24:16.240 think that's a
00:24:16.920 coincidence?
00:24:17.300 It appears
00:24:19.620 very clear
00:24:20.520 where this
00:24:21.400 individual who
00:24:22.120 did the
00:24:22.540 shooting was
00:24:22.940 radicalized.
00:24:25.120 And the
00:24:25.720 community that
00:24:26.300 helped him
00:24:26.640 plan this.
00:24:27.400 Now,
00:24:27.860 obviously,
00:24:28.280 the question
00:24:28.660 here is,
00:24:29.220 did they just
00:24:29.640 passively know
00:24:30.460 about this?
00:24:31.160 or were
00:24:32.800 they actively
00:24:33.460 engaged with
00:24:34.160 the planning
00:24:34.840 and stuff
00:24:35.320 like this?
00:24:36.140 Given the
00:24:36.780 fact,
00:24:37.140 I mean,
00:24:37.300 if you look
00:24:37.640 at the
00:24:37.860 anger that
00:24:38.380 goes into
00:24:38.800 songs like,
00:24:40.000 like,
00:24:40.260 these songs
00:24:40.520 are super
00:24:41.020 angry,
00:24:41.720 like,
00:24:42.020 Charlie
00:24:42.240 Kirk dead
00:24:42.640 at 31,
00:24:43.680 and Charlie
00:24:44.340 Kirk's death
00:24:44.820 isn't enough
00:24:45.360 for me,
00:24:46.220 these,
00:24:47.380 like,
00:24:48.080 this person
00:24:48.560 was clearly
00:24:48.980 thinking about
00:24:49.740 this a lot,
00:24:50.500 and they
00:24:51.760 expected the
00:24:52.800 audience to
00:24:54.120 be aware of
00:24:55.000 this.
00:24:55.300 Like,
00:24:55.480 in their
00:24:55.760 underground
00:24:56.520 trans Utah
00:24:57.820 music scene,
00:24:58.880 they expected
00:25:00.280 there to be,
00:25:01.520 like,
00:25:01.600 enough knowledge
00:25:02.800 about this
00:25:04.120 to get,
00:25:04.640 like,
00:25:04.960 underground
00:25:05.400 credit points
00:25:06.380 that this
00:25:07.100 is something
00:25:07.480 that was
00:25:07.800 going to
00:25:08.160 happen in
00:25:08.520 the near
00:25:08.700 future.
00:25:11.400 And I
00:25:13.260 hate what
00:25:14.100 I'm seeing
00:25:14.500 on the left
00:25:15.000 in regards
00:25:15.400 to this,
00:25:16.040 is they're
00:25:16.380 like,
00:25:16.660 oh,
00:25:17.340 that was
00:25:17.920 debunked,
00:25:18.800 right?
00:25:19.020 Like,
00:25:19.160 I'm actually
00:25:19.460 seeing,
00:25:19.900 like,
00:25:20.340 and what
00:25:20.620 they mean
00:25:21.220 is it
00:25:21.800 was debunked
00:25:22.760 that the
00:25:23.200 individual
00:25:23.540 who wrote
00:25:24.520 these songs,
00:25:25.260 Sky Vandalize,
00:25:26.500 was the
00:25:26.920 shooter themselves.
00:25:27.800 I'm like,
00:25:29.540 yes,
00:25:31.080 they weren't
00:25:31.760 the shooter.
00:25:32.940 That's not,
00:25:34.020 it's not
00:25:34.520 debunked that
00:25:35.320 they wrote
00:25:35.800 these songs
00:25:36.500 and they
00:25:36.780 were very
00:25:37.200 publicly on
00:25:38.020 multiple song
00:25:39.100 hosting platforms,
00:25:40.760 right?
00:25:41.080 Like,
00:25:41.340 that wasn't
00:25:42.000 debunked.
00:25:42.680 It is
00:25:43.100 debunked
00:25:43.840 that they
00:25:44.900 were not
00:25:45.300 the shooter.
00:25:46.500 Or they'll
00:25:47.180 say,
00:25:47.440 oh,
00:25:47.540 that first
00:25:47.940 tweet was
00:25:48.280 debunked.
00:25:48.640 And I was
00:25:48.800 like,
00:25:48.960 no,
00:25:49.180 the image
00:25:49.680 associated
00:25:50.180 with it
00:25:50.560 was debunked.
00:25:51.240 Not that
00:25:52.560 somebody who
00:25:53.520 was a trans
00:25:54.040 individual going
00:25:55.160 to this
00:25:55.580 university in
00:25:56.660 Utah,
00:25:57.060 appeared to
00:25:57.820 have knowledge
00:25:58.300 that the
00:25:58.620 shooting was
00:25:58.980 about to
00:25:59.280 happen.
00:25:59.920 Right.
00:26:01.340 Now I want
00:26:01.960 to quickly go
00:26:02.480 over the,
00:26:03.700 oh,
00:26:04.020 other,
00:26:04.660 other accounts.
00:26:05.440 Sorry.
00:26:06.120 There was also
00:26:07.040 we effing did
00:26:08.500 it,
00:26:09.080 let it die,
00:26:09.980 let it die.
00:26:11.140 These were
00:26:12.180 tweeted by
00:26:13.900 potentially the,
00:26:15.860 the partner of,
00:26:17.040 of the,
00:26:17.540 the assassin,
00:26:18.840 but it could
00:26:20.220 have been another
00:26:20.900 trans account.
00:26:21.880 So this is yet
00:26:22.320 another trans account
00:26:23.840 that may have been
00:26:24.500 involved and known
00:26:25.020 about this.
00:26:25.440 This would have
00:26:26.360 been an account
00:26:26.840 called at
00:26:27.580 Trub 75.
00:26:29.620 This was a
00:26:30.420 male to female
00:26:31.340 account.
00:26:32.240 The account
00:26:33.280 in,
00:26:34.300 in the
00:26:35.980 account's bio
00:26:36.700 at the time
00:26:37.520 said,
00:26:38.360 saw Tyler
00:26:39.440 on June
00:26:40.140 30th.
00:26:42.080 So Tyler
00:26:42.940 was the name
00:26:43.520 of the assassin,
00:26:44.120 if you're
00:26:44.540 forgetting here,
00:26:45.200 by the way.
00:26:45.940 Now they later
00:26:46.900 said,
00:26:47.360 oh no,
00:26:47.980 this was a
00:26:48.540 band I went
00:26:49.400 to see.
00:26:51.080 But again,
00:26:52.080 this is very
00:26:52.760 sus.
00:26:53.180 Sorry,
00:26:54.300 the most
00:26:54.720 important part
00:26:55.320 of this is
00:26:55.740 the person
00:26:56.100 who said
00:26:56.600 we effing
00:26:57.240 did it.
00:26:58.140 This trans
00:26:58.720 individual was
00:26:59.320 a follower
00:26:59.740 of the
00:27:00.840 assassin's
00:27:01.660 trans
00:27:02.120 girlfriend
00:27:02.640 on Twitter,
00:27:03.740 so appeared
00:27:04.120 to have
00:27:04.480 direct connection
00:27:05.300 to that group.
00:27:06.280 And I would
00:27:06.660 note here,
00:27:07.300 any individual
00:27:08.360 one of these
00:27:08.860 instances,
00:27:09.460 I might be
00:27:09.820 like,
00:27:10.300 coincidence,
00:27:10.860 crazy coincidence,
00:27:11.860 but still
00:27:12.180 coincidence in
00:27:12.960 people acting
00:27:13.500 in bad taste.
00:27:14.860 Given the
00:27:15.720 similarities
00:27:16.520 between the
00:27:17.360 individuals who
00:27:17.960 appeared to
00:27:18.340 know about
00:27:18.660 this beforehand,
00:27:19.920 given that
00:27:20.420 they appear
00:27:21.000 connected to
00:27:21.680 each other,
00:27:22.580 and given
00:27:23.160 the implausibility
00:27:24.980 that so many
00:27:25.800 of them could
00:27:26.340 make this
00:27:26.940 accidental prediction
00:27:28.200 all at once,
00:27:29.380 it seems fairly
00:27:30.400 obvious there
00:27:31.200 was a wider,
00:27:32.320 well,
00:27:32.760 trans Utah
00:27:33.280 community involved
00:27:34.480 in this.
00:27:35.160 All right,
00:27:35.700 now I want to
00:27:36.540 talk about
00:27:36.980 the celebrations.
00:27:38.720 Because it's
00:27:39.180 also something
00:27:39.580 that we need
00:27:39.920 to talk about
00:27:40.300 as a society,
00:27:40.980 because it's
00:27:41.360 like...
00:27:42.180 Well,
00:27:42.680 actually,
00:27:43.040 there's one
00:27:43.320 thing I kind
00:27:43.740 of wanted to
00:27:44.100 ask you about,
00:27:45.240 you know,
00:27:45.520 on this trans
00:27:46.600 associations front.
00:27:48.100 Because at
00:27:48.960 first,
00:27:49.600 when we recorded
00:27:50.600 the episode
00:27:51.600 about the
00:27:52.100 assassination,
00:27:53.080 all that we
00:27:53.620 knew,
00:27:54.560 it was reported
00:27:55.460 that there
00:27:56.280 were anti-fascist
00:27:57.900 and trans
00:27:58.740 slogans.
00:27:59.580 Oh, no, no.
00:28:00.080 People had
00:28:00.500 already said
00:28:00.900 that the trans
00:28:01.440 slogans were
00:28:02.120 not actually
00:28:02.700 on the bullets.
00:28:03.380 And they
00:28:03.580 weren't.
00:28:03.820 It turned
00:28:04.000 out they
00:28:04.220 weren't.
00:28:04.480 They weren't.
00:28:05.120 It was just
00:28:05.780 terminally
00:28:06.740 online stuff.
00:28:08.140 And my
00:28:09.340 initial read
00:28:09.940 of it was,
00:28:10.660 oh, this is
00:28:11.360 just a
00:28:11.760 terminally
00:28:12.240 online person.
00:28:13.440 What's your
00:28:13.800 refutation of
00:28:14.620 that?
00:28:14.920 And what's
00:28:15.240 your refutation
00:28:15.680 of arguments
00:28:16.460 that, no,
00:28:17.520 what's wrong
00:28:18.100 with this
00:28:18.420 person isn't
00:28:19.120 leftism or
00:28:19.920 rightism,
00:28:20.600 they could
00:28:21.260 have easily
00:28:21.640 have fallen
00:28:22.120 for Nick
00:28:22.480 Fuentes or
00:28:23.060 something else
00:28:23.780 and gone
00:28:24.560 super right
00:28:25.180 instead of
00:28:25.660 super left.
00:28:26.680 The issue
00:28:27.540 is that they
00:28:28.000 were too
00:28:28.360 online and
00:28:28.920 they didn't,
00:28:29.440 as Charlie
00:28:29.840 Kirk encouraged
00:28:30.500 people to
00:28:30.960 touch grass
00:28:31.740 enough.
00:28:32.460 Yeah, I
00:28:33.060 actually don't
00:28:33.740 think that's
00:28:34.360 a good
00:28:35.160 explanation at
00:28:35.860 all.
00:28:36.340 Okay, so
00:28:36.740 why?
00:28:37.760 First, if
00:28:38.600 you look at
00:28:39.100 the people
00:28:39.520 who appeared
00:28:40.140 to know
00:28:40.680 about this
00:28:41.400 before the
00:28:42.580 event, they
00:28:43.460 appear to be
00:28:44.260 not internet
00:28:45.420 friends, but
00:28:46.380 IRL friends.
00:28:47.860 these are
00:28:48.780 Utah, ex-Mormon
00:28:51.540 trans individuals.
00:28:53.020 That implies a
00:28:54.460 in-person community
00:28:56.100 to me.
00:28:56.600 Yeah.
00:28:56.860 They likely, and
00:28:58.200 when you're talking
00:28:58.560 about stuff like
00:28:59.120 indie musicians and
00:29:00.280 stuff like that,
00:29:01.280 that to me implies
00:29:02.760 like underground
00:29:03.820 clubs.
00:29:04.860 An IRL scene.
00:29:06.280 An IRL scene
00:29:07.760 where this was being
00:29:08.720 talked about, not
00:29:10.120 just was in
00:29:11.140 online forums.
00:29:12.060 And I'd also
00:29:13.900 note here, the
00:29:14.480 very fact that I
00:29:15.600 was able to
00:29:16.220 call out that
00:29:17.020 this was going
00:29:17.740 to come from
00:29:18.360 the trans
00:29:18.780 community is
00:29:19.980 pretty effing
00:29:20.740 wild.
00:29:21.240 When I'm like,
00:29:21.720 oh yeah, they're
00:29:22.320 the only ones who
00:29:23.100 really do political
00:29:23.800 violence like this.
00:29:25.240 Not like only do,
00:29:26.260 but they seem to
00:29:26.740 disproportionately do
00:29:27.660 it and radicalize
00:29:28.260 individuals.
00:29:28.940 That's very unique.
00:29:30.400 That's not
00:29:30.820 happening on, you
00:29:32.140 know, there
00:29:32.340 hasn't...
00:29:33.120 Well, they found
00:29:33.820 the perfect storm
00:29:34.780 because they brought
00:29:35.680 in a conservatively
00:29:37.400 raised, gun-trained
00:29:38.880 young man who
00:29:40.960 actually was a good
00:29:41.660 shot.
00:29:43.100 Yeah.
00:29:44.100 Because normally
00:29:44.820 their hit rate
00:29:45.480 isn't great.
00:29:46.560 Yeah, they work
00:29:46.980 to find an
00:29:47.860 individual like
00:29:48.300 this and bring
00:29:48.620 them into the
00:29:48.940 community.
00:29:49.620 But no, they,
00:29:50.340 as a community,
00:29:52.400 and you've also
00:29:52.840 talked about this
00:29:53.320 with Mormons
00:29:54.160 being uniquely
00:29:54.720 susceptible.
00:29:55.320 I think this is
00:29:55.780 more due to
00:29:56.640 just sort of
00:29:57.480 the genetic
00:29:58.320 effects of being
00:29:59.140 a Mormon.
00:29:59.380 People actually
00:29:59.820 who follow our
00:30:00.460 podcast had
00:30:01.220 hoped that you
00:30:01.720 would comment
00:30:02.100 on this too.
00:30:02.840 Like, is this,
00:30:04.580 is a lot of
00:30:05.480 this about that,
00:30:06.460 this dynamic
00:30:07.000 that you pointed
00:30:07.480 out where Mormon
00:30:08.740 children seem to
00:30:10.120 be uniquely
00:30:10.920 vulnerable to
00:30:12.900 being radicalized
00:30:14.140 by extreme
00:30:14.800 online groups?
00:30:16.240 Well, I think
00:30:16.880 Mormons are sort
00:30:18.060 of designed
00:30:19.080 for, like, I
00:30:20.980 don't mean this
00:30:21.440 anything, I love
00:30:22.340 Mormons, it's a
00:30:22.940 great culture, lots
00:30:23.800 of Mormon friends,
00:30:24.820 fans, very close
00:30:25.780 with the Mormon
00:30:26.260 community.
00:30:26.880 I even consider
00:30:27.680 my theology
00:30:28.360 pretty close to
00:30:29.500 Mormon, some
00:30:30.180 forms of Mormon
00:30:30.740 theology.
00:30:31.120 And so I think
00:30:33.500 that if we look
00:30:34.820 historically at
00:30:36.260 what drew people
00:30:37.240 to the Mormon
00:30:37.780 church and the
00:30:38.880 personality profile
00:30:39.880 that drew people
00:30:40.460 to the Mormon
00:30:40.880 church, it is a,
00:30:43.100 like, historically
00:30:43.860 speaking, and I
00:30:46.260 think Mormons who
00:30:47.160 are, like, more
00:30:47.980 broadly able to
00:30:49.320 see their religion
00:30:50.280 without bias would
00:30:52.180 understand that their
00:30:52.860 religion in its
00:30:54.200 fairly recent history
00:30:55.220 is what, if it was
00:30:56.660 that today, we would
00:30:57.820 just call a cult.
00:30:58.600 Like, I mean, you
00:30:59.920 could call our
00:31:00.460 religion a cult
00:31:00.960 because it's a new
00:31:01.400 religion.
00:31:01.700 Most new religion
00:31:02.260 movements are.
00:31:02.740 I think the
00:31:03.140 argument you've
00:31:03.680 made, though, at
00:31:04.780 least to any Mormon
00:31:05.960 who's like, well,
00:31:06.520 what advice would
00:31:07.160 you give to the
00:31:07.600 LDS church on
00:31:08.840 growth?
00:31:09.400 The best argument
00:31:10.180 that I've heard you
00:31:10.700 make that I really
00:31:11.300 agree with is, hey,
00:31:13.760 actually, the best
00:31:15.460 thing that the LDS
00:31:16.260 church could do is
00:31:17.200 lean into weirdness
00:31:18.080 because the problem
00:31:18.900 is by leaning into
00:31:20.660 conformity and
00:31:21.540 acceptance, you are
00:31:23.340 making it hard for
00:31:25.340 members of the
00:31:26.240 church to stay in
00:31:27.040 the church when
00:31:27.540 they're exposed to
00:31:28.260 mainstream
00:31:28.600 society.
00:31:29.460 Exactly.
00:31:30.300 To take that a
00:31:31.220 step further, once
00:31:32.720 these people who
00:31:34.180 are raised in this
00:31:34.960 kind of, you must
00:31:35.960 conform with the
00:31:36.740 group you're in, end
00:31:38.020 up in radicalized
00:31:39.300 groups like this,
00:31:41.340 they go bonkers.
00:31:43.000 Well, and also,
00:31:44.180 what are they
00:31:44.660 supposed to do?
00:31:45.220 I mean, you, a lot
00:31:46.300 of the sort of
00:31:46.940 Mormon culture teaches
00:31:47.620 people, be normal,
00:31:48.860 be normal, because
00:31:49.480 it's afraid of this
00:31:50.100 cult branding.
00:31:50.800 But be normative
00:31:51.380 with your surrounding
00:31:52.200 group.
00:31:53.120 Right.
00:31:53.560 The problem is, is
00:31:55.020 the normative
00:31:55.920 group, like the
00:31:56.580 normative cultural
00:31:57.460 group, is
00:31:58.580 the urban
00:32:00.400 monoculture, right?
00:32:01.740 And so, now
00:32:03.120 they're like, well,
00:32:03.960 if I'm actually
00:32:04.700 going to be normal,
00:32:05.420 I'm going to adapt
00:32:06.380 to urban monocultural
00:32:07.440 practices, and then
00:32:08.720 it's like, but I
00:32:09.280 still have all of
00:32:10.020 these, like, extremist
00:32:10.940 cultist tendencies,
00:32:12.360 so what's a cult
00:32:13.640 that's approved by the
00:32:14.680 urban monoculture?
00:32:15.380 Oh, it's this identity
00:32:17.660 politics stuff.
00:32:18.760 So I'm going to go
00:32:19.360 100% all in on that.
00:32:21.540 And I think the way
00:32:22.200 that you fix this is
00:32:23.220 teach your kids, we
00:32:24.700 are different, we are
00:32:25.980 not normal, and you
00:32:27.440 should have pride in
00:32:28.200 that.
00:32:29.160 Normal is bad.
00:32:30.380 Don't be normal.
00:32:31.440 Be weird, because being
00:32:33.120 Mormon is weird, and
00:32:34.360 that's cool, right?
00:32:35.960 And that's how you
00:32:36.880 resist this.
00:32:37.600 You know, when these
00:32:38.020 people come to him,
00:32:38.620 and they're like, you
00:32:39.200 are a Mormon, which
00:32:40.640 makes you weird in X, Y,
00:32:41.720 and Z way.
00:32:42.620 You can actually hit
00:32:43.460 them with the UNO
00:32:44.060 reverse card.
00:32:44.700 Be like, what, are you
00:32:45.360 discriminating against me
00:32:46.360 for my minority
00:32:47.280 religious background?
00:32:48.660 Like, do you know
00:32:49.220 what Mormons have gone
00:32:50.140 through with the U.S.
00:32:51.000 government?
00:32:51.500 Are you aware of the
00:32:52.800 number of Mormons that
00:32:53.840 were killed at the
00:32:54.740 battle of whatever?
00:32:55.940 My people have been
00:32:57.080 through discrimination
00:32:58.240 since blah, blah, blah,
00:32:59.260 blah, blah.
00:32:59.560 You know, you go,
00:33:00.220 right, we haven't even
00:33:01.080 had a president yet.
00:33:02.220 You know, you can go
00:33:03.820 far with that, right?
00:33:05.840 And so, defend the
00:33:07.000 Mormon community.
00:33:08.120 I like that.
00:33:08.980 But yeah, I do think
00:33:09.700 that it is uniquely
00:33:10.860 susceptible to a lot of
00:33:12.260 it.
00:33:12.840 So anyway, one, I
00:33:14.640 think it's not about
00:33:15.720 generic online
00:33:16.460 communities.
00:33:17.120 It's about one online
00:33:18.900 community.
00:33:19.720 And generic online
00:33:20.740 communities do not
00:33:22.060 radicalize people into
00:33:23.260 killers that frequently.
00:33:24.660 Like, we've noticed
00:33:25.440 it's actually been pretty
00:33:26.420 weird that there are
00:33:27.320 not more incel
00:33:28.000 shooters, right?
00:33:29.020 When you look at the
00:33:29.860 rates of violence you
00:33:31.540 would expect from this
00:33:32.220 community.
00:33:32.540 You have a whole
00:33:33.220 podcast on it, yeah.
00:33:34.420 Yeah, we have a whole
00:33:34.980 podcast on it.
00:33:35.580 But it's one of the
00:33:37.180 only ideologies that
00:33:38.740 can convince people
00:33:40.180 that by disagreeing
00:33:41.420 with them, you're
00:33:41.920 murdering people.
00:33:43.660 Like, Antifa genuinely
00:33:45.320 believes, and you can
00:33:46.020 see this on his shells
00:33:47.880 and everything like
00:33:48.380 that, that mainstream
00:33:49.980 boomer conservatism is
00:33:51.100 fascism.
00:33:52.020 They genuinely believe
00:33:53.680 that Trump is a
00:33:54.560 fascist.
00:33:55.060 They genuinely, like,
00:33:56.500 even though I was
00:33:57.480 like, whatever you
00:33:59.080 bring up, you know,
00:34:00.000 that Trump was a
00:34:00.680 felon for, like,
00:34:01.400 obviously trumped up
00:34:02.440 charges.
00:34:03.160 Again, like, what
00:34:04.180 specifically did he get
00:34:05.140 the felony for, for
00:34:05.860 not disclosing his
00:34:07.500 prostitute payments in
00:34:09.080 his tax filings, which
00:34:10.600 is not a felony,
00:34:12.860 unless you count it in
00:34:14.640 a certain way.
00:34:15.040 It's really, you can
00:34:15.720 go to our episode,
00:34:16.260 we've gone deeper on
00:34:16.920 this, but it's a bit
00:34:18.000 like being like, oh,
00:34:19.080 yeah, when somebody's
00:34:20.040 like, Nelson Mandela,
00:34:21.680 known felon.
00:34:22.920 And it's like, well,
00:34:23.580 wasn't he a political
00:34:24.500 prisoner?
00:34:25.240 Like, that doesn't
00:34:26.280 exactly make me trust
00:34:27.360 him less.
00:34:28.880 I love it.
00:34:29.860 People were freaking
00:34:30.900 out that we had
00:34:31.380 made this comparison
00:34:32.060 in one of our
00:34:32.520 previous episodes,
00:34:33.300 and it's like, they
00:34:34.800 were like, well,
00:34:35.340 Trump's an excellent,
00:34:36.400 like, a, a, a
00:34:37.780 grapist, and a
00:34:38.860 something, and a
00:34:39.800 something, and I'm
00:34:40.320 like, I, I disagree
00:34:42.400 on those points.
00:34:43.360 Like, you assume that
00:34:44.860 I live in this world
00:34:46.380 that you live in,
00:34:47.380 where you believe every
00:34:48.640 negative accusation
00:34:49.680 that's made about
00:34:50.400 right-wing figures in
00:34:51.360 the media, and me,
00:34:52.760 as a right-wing figure
00:34:53.740 in the media, knows
00:34:54.920 that the media just
00:34:55.880 makes stuff up all
00:34:57.020 the time, and it's
00:34:57.840 important that you do
00:34:58.680 your own research on
00:34:59.660 this stuff.
00:35:00.100 And so you just
00:35:01.160 further unjustly
00:35:03.260 victimize an
00:35:04.080 individual, making me
00:35:05.780 further sympathetic
00:35:06.980 to them, and not
00:35:08.360 just me, but other
00:35:09.360 people like me, when
00:35:10.440 you do these sorts of
00:35:11.440 spurious accusations.
00:35:13.240 But the point here
00:35:14.200 being is because they
00:35:15.300 have developed an
00:35:16.180 ideology, which isn't
00:35:17.700 true for most online
00:35:18.480 ideologies, that
00:35:19.600 frames anyone as
00:35:20.540 disagreed with them
00:35:21.680 as murdering them, or
00:35:23.040 as killing them, or as
00:35:24.600 genociding them, they
00:35:26.000 now have a moral
00:35:27.720 license to, like,
00:35:30.280 bike lock Antifa
00:35:31.160 guy, right?
00:35:31.940 Like, I think that
00:35:32.540 this is, and we'll do
00:35:33.160 a separate episode on
00:35:33.980 trans Tifa, I think
00:35:35.160 this is, like, a
00:35:35.620 broader thing.
00:35:36.140 It's not, like, just
00:35:36.880 the trans movement.
00:35:38.420 It's a part of the
00:35:38.960 trans movement that's
00:35:39.600 been co-opted by
00:35:40.360 Antifa, and it's sort
00:35:41.760 of merged with Antifa
00:35:42.840 into this wider, I
00:35:44.300 have a moral license
00:35:45.280 to murder people with
00:35:47.240 mainstream political
00:35:48.100 beliefs because I
00:35:48.820 disagree with them.
00:35:50.680 Yeah.
00:35:51.660 And this has become a
00:35:52.740 normative belief system.
00:35:54.100 Like, you literally, you
00:35:55.620 would not see, if a
00:35:56.660 leftist figure was,
00:35:57.640 like, murdered in
00:35:58.600 front of his family,
00:35:59.460 you might see some,
00:36:00.540 like, crazy online
00:36:01.820 right-wing people
00:36:02.440 celebrating it, right?
00:36:03.840 A hundred percent.
00:36:04.780 But you wouldn't see
00:36:05.500 them jumping in the
00:36:06.420 crowd celebrating while
00:36:08.120 watching it happen,
00:36:09.040 which we literally,
00:36:09.980 you know, have
00:36:10.500 pictures of from this
00:36:12.060 event, right?
00:36:13.040 And you wouldn't see
00:36:14.820 tons of, so to just
00:36:16.760 go through a few of,
00:36:17.600 because there was,
00:36:17.980 like, 30 instances of
00:36:19.520 teachers being fired
00:36:20.320 for this.
00:36:20.920 And keep in mind,
00:36:21.400 these are people who
00:36:21.960 are teaching your kids.
00:36:23.720 Like, you might be,
00:36:24.360 like, oh, they were
00:36:24.900 fired for saying this,
00:36:25.900 that that's good.
00:36:26.920 And it's like, what
00:36:28.380 were they saying to
00:36:29.160 the kids before this?
00:36:31.440 Right?
00:36:31.860 And what about the
00:36:32.320 ones that were smart
00:36:33.000 enough to do this on
00:36:33.900 an alt account?
00:36:36.160 Right?
00:36:36.440 So, high school
00:36:38.440 teacher, Greenville
00:36:39.280 County School District,
00:36:40.260 South Carolina,
00:36:41.440 Ryan Bullock, was
00:36:42.560 fired after posting on
00:36:43.520 Facebook, quote,
00:36:44.720 thoughts and prayers
00:36:45.400 to his children, but
00:36:46.240 in my opinion,
00:36:47.480 America became
00:36:48.720 greater today.
00:36:49.720 There, I said it.
00:36:50.560 Then, assistant cheer
00:36:51.880 coach, Meridian High
00:36:52.820 School, Idaho, said,
00:36:55.000 you effing got what
00:36:56.280 you effing deserve.
00:36:57.580 I just saw the
00:36:58.560 effing video.
00:36:59.920 It looks like you got
00:37:00.900 shot in the neck or
00:37:01.840 chest.
00:37:02.920 I'm not saying I wish
00:37:04.280 deaths upon someone,
00:37:05.360 but that's what I'm
00:37:06.660 effing saying for this
00:37:07.980 mother effer.
00:37:09.700 Piece of effing
00:37:10.620 S.
00:37:11.740 I hope he's dead.
00:37:13.200 She then added,
00:37:14.360 oh, I hope he's not
00:37:15.320 dead.
00:37:15.980 Oh, oh, pray for
00:37:17.100 Charlie Kirk.
00:37:17.740 Oh, oh.
00:37:18.660 And then later noted,
00:37:20.000 no, he didn't deserve
00:37:20.980 to be violently killed
00:37:21.840 by that, blah, blah,
00:37:22.680 blah, blah.
00:37:23.420 But this is the thing.
00:37:24.880 Like, they believe that
00:37:26.020 this individual, like,
00:37:26.840 they'll be like, oh,
00:37:27.260 he was a racist.
00:37:28.660 And I'm like, proof he
00:37:29.680 was a racist, right?
00:37:30.940 And they'll be like,
00:37:31.500 well, he said he was
00:37:32.480 worried about when he
00:37:33.600 saw, like, black pilots,
00:37:34.680 right, like, on his
00:37:35.340 flight, right?
00:37:36.200 And given the current
00:37:37.260 DII practices.
00:37:38.160 And I'm like, anybody
00:37:39.100 who's aware, look at
00:37:40.060 our video of the
00:37:40.720 American Chernobyl is
00:37:42.020 going to happen with,
00:37:43.020 like, the TFA
00:37:43.580 explicitly asking in
00:37:46.000 their test to try to
00:37:47.340 hire more black
00:37:48.060 people because they
00:37:48.700 were the actual
00:37:49.500 racist, and then
00:37:50.540 having the correct
00:37:51.280 answer on the test
00:37:51.900 being that you don't
00:37:52.660 like science and you
00:37:53.360 don't take directions
00:37:54.260 well, because they
00:37:55.220 thought that's the way
00:37:55.820 black people answered.
00:37:56.800 Like, that's going to
00:37:57.440 lead to bad people in
00:37:59.080 flying capacity.
00:38:01.040 I can see why-
00:38:01.760 Things are also just
00:38:02.500 being taken so widely
00:38:03.900 out of context.
00:38:05.020 Another prominent
00:38:05.720 example is Stephen
00:38:07.260 King subsequently
00:38:08.260 apologizing for tweeting
00:38:10.680 after he was shot.
00:38:12.780 He believed gays
00:38:13.880 should be stoned to
00:38:14.720 death, by the way,
00:38:16.160 or just FYI.
00:38:17.180 And really, he was
00:38:18.600 apparently responding
00:38:20.020 to Miss Rachel, you
00:38:22.140 know, the really
00:38:22.860 prominent kids show,
00:38:25.880 like, content producer,
00:38:27.400 referring to the Bible's
00:38:28.880 love thy neighbor thing,
00:38:30.440 you know, in terms of,
00:38:31.340 like, how we need to be
00:38:32.300 kinder to people.
00:38:33.360 She's a very prominent
00:38:34.120 sort of help kids in
00:38:35.720 Palestine fundraiser, and
00:38:37.840 that has caught her, you
00:38:39.400 know, sort of in the
00:38:40.160 middle of political
00:38:40.860 crosshairs.
00:38:42.440 And I think in that
00:38:43.540 context, Charlie Kirk
00:38:44.620 pointed out, well, you
00:38:46.420 know, the Bible also
00:38:47.540 says that gays should be
00:38:48.640 stoned to death, just so
00:38:50.080 you know.
00:38:50.900 And then that was turned
00:38:52.600 into, Charlie Kirk
00:38:54.480 thinks gays should be
00:38:55.660 stoned to death, which is
00:38:56.880 so widely.
00:38:57.680 Like, he's just being
00:38:58.620 reasonable.
00:38:59.140 Like, he wasn't actually
00:39:00.260 any-
00:39:00.540 The other one is, like,
00:39:01.760 the MLK one.
00:39:02.560 Oh, he says MLK was a
00:39:04.040 bad-
00:39:04.160 MLK was a serial
00:39:05.320 adulterer.
00:39:05.920 Like, we know this now.
00:39:07.440 He cheated with friends
00:39:09.660 who were in the clergy
00:39:10.600 with him, spouses.
00:39:12.440 Like, he-
00:39:14.140 There's problems with
00:39:15.620 MLK.
00:39:16.140 MLK doesn't have the
00:39:17.700 spotless record Charlie
00:39:18.900 Kirk does.
00:39:19.780 You know, I hate to say
00:39:20.960 it, but it's just true.
00:39:22.360 You can look at the
00:39:22.940 video we did with
00:39:24.260 Curtis Yarvin on MLK's,
00:39:25.820 you know, association
00:39:27.140 with communists.
00:39:28.740 And communists, you
00:39:30.280 know, kill way more
00:39:31.340 people than racists ever
00:39:32.540 did.
00:39:32.980 If you're surprised by
00:39:34.040 this claim, then you're
00:39:35.220 like, that can't be
00:39:36.280 true.
00:39:36.720 What about, like, the
00:39:37.340 entire slave trade?
00:39:38.800 If you look at, and it
00:39:40.040 depends on the numbers
00:39:40.780 that you're looking at,
00:39:41.580 but based on some of the
00:39:43.340 numbers that are held by
00:39:44.620 mainstream academics, if
00:39:46.140 you look at the entire
00:39:47.020 number of people who
00:39:47.780 died over the course of
00:39:48.760 the entire transatlantic
00:39:50.800 slave trade, that number
00:39:52.720 would be about equivalent
00:39:53.800 to just the people who
00:39:55.520 died in just the five
00:39:57.280 years of China's great
00:39:58.840 leap forward.
00:39:59.660 Right?
00:39:59.900 So, like, let's talk
00:40:01.160 about, like, evil
00:40:02.220 ideologies here.
00:40:03.180 I would say that if
00:40:04.020 Charlie Kirk was
00:40:04.600 actually, like,
00:40:05.140 associated and working
00:40:05.920 with, like, mainstream
00:40:06.600 racists, that's probably
00:40:07.880 the equivalent of
00:40:08.500 working with mainstream
00:40:09.000 racists.
00:40:09.160 This is the thing when
00:40:09.840 everyone's like, oh, he
00:40:11.380 met with a Nazi, or, you
00:40:13.080 know, he said a Nazi
00:40:13.960 thing, and I'm like,
00:40:14.700 well, you have communists
00:40:15.740 at your rallies.
00:40:16.480 Like, communists killed
00:40:17.180 way more people than
00:40:18.660 Nazis killed.
00:40:19.660 Like, what are you, what
00:40:21.640 is this, like, why are
00:40:22.840 we supposed to be freaked
00:40:23.660 out about associating with
00:40:24.680 Nazis and not freaked out
00:40:26.020 about associating with
00:40:26.740 communists?
00:40:27.420 It's like, oh, yeah,
00:40:28.360 because you control the
00:40:29.160 academic institutions and
00:40:30.220 media, and you get to
00:40:31.440 control which groups are
00:40:33.260 the groups we're allowed
00:40:34.080 to associate with and
00:40:34.900 not associate with, or
00:40:35.900 the ideas we're allowed
00:40:36.940 to flirt with and not
00:40:37.840 flirt with, right?
00:40:39.440 Which, just, just
00:40:41.240 disgusting, but
00:40:42.060 good point.
00:40:43.500 Anyway, to continue here,
00:40:44.920 we got a school teacher
00:40:45.720 in Oregon who said that
00:40:47.340 learning of this guy's
00:40:48.740 death in front of his
00:40:49.460 kids brightened up his
00:40:50.320 day.
00:40:51.160 You had somebody in
00:40:53.080 Wisconsin, a teacher, be
00:40:54.720 put on leave for saying
00:40:55.700 he was a racist,
00:40:56.440 xenophobic, transphobic,
00:40:57.780 Islamophobic, sexist,
00:40:59.320 white nationalist, mouse
00:41:00.920 piece who made millions
00:41:01.960 of dollars inciting hatred
00:41:04.260 in this country, which he
00:41:05.960 wasn't most of those
00:41:07.060 things.
00:41:07.940 Like, if you actually look
00:41:08.880 at his stuff, he
00:41:09.960 believed, his views on
00:41:11.820 gays were the Bible's
00:41:13.440 views on gays, okay?
00:41:14.620 Or at least mainstream
00:41:16.200 evangelical interpretations
00:41:17.380 of the Bible's views of
00:41:18.280 gays.
00:41:18.640 So if you're saying he's
00:41:20.240 homophobic, you're saying
00:41:21.660 no one is allowed to have
00:41:23.320 mainstream evangelical
00:41:25.520 religious beliefs.
00:41:26.660 Like, that's an entire
00:41:27.380 religion that you're like,
00:41:29.200 you're not allowed to
00:41:29.980 believe, right?
00:41:30.860 Well, I'm hearing his
00:41:31.540 arguments against trans
00:41:32.880 people who are actively
00:41:33.800 debating him at his
00:41:34.880 college events.
00:41:36.020 Like, you know, why is it
00:41:38.380 not okay for me to ask to
00:41:39.760 be called by my gender?
00:41:42.180 His arguments seemed
00:41:42.980 really close to ours,
00:41:44.040 really focused around the
00:41:45.000 lack of consent that goes
00:41:46.900 into that.
00:41:48.020 And the fact that you're
00:41:49.820 forcing people to lie and
00:41:52.940 that that's morally very
00:41:54.980 questionable.
00:41:55.220 Well, from their
00:41:55.500 perspective, I mean,
00:41:56.400 different cultures deal
00:41:57.780 with sexual boundaries
00:41:59.460 differently.
00:42:00.200 They deal with consent
00:42:01.700 differently.
00:42:02.900 You know, a great example
00:42:04.240 of this, which I haven't
00:42:05.160 had time to really
00:42:05.820 articulate, but I've sort
00:42:06.660 of been working in my
00:42:07.220 head is, okay, suppose
00:42:08.900 you were going to a
00:42:10.380 native island, right?
00:42:11.960 And you knew that on
00:42:13.140 this native island, if you
00:42:14.860 showed your knees, that
00:42:16.520 was considered like a very
00:42:17.360 sexual thing.
00:42:18.340 And this is true for
00:42:19.320 some cultures, right?
00:42:20.280 Like you would be like an
00:42:23.940 absolute D bag to go like
00:42:26.940 showing your knees, right?
00:42:27.960 Because you're being like,
00:42:29.060 well, within my culture, I
00:42:30.180 can show my knees.
00:42:31.080 And it's like, yeah, but
00:42:31.760 within their culture,
00:42:33.160 especially if you were going
00:42:34.280 to talk to their kids or
00:42:35.700 something, and you knew you
00:42:37.080 were going to talk to their
00:42:37.960 kids, right?
00:42:39.080 Now in our society, if you do
00:42:41.740 something like, because we
00:42:43.600 were at this, this gender
00:42:44.540 service class and somebody is
00:42:46.300 like, well, somebody wanted to
00:42:47.360 dress up and act like a cat in
00:42:48.540 school and it like created
00:42:50.140 anger in me.
00:42:50.820 And like, I don't know why
00:42:51.600 it created anger in me.
00:42:52.760 And now I've like matured
00:42:53.880 past that, you know, because
00:42:54.740 they went to college and
00:42:55.360 were brainwashed.
00:42:56.100 I was like, no, that, that
00:42:56.800 should have created anger in
00:42:57.800 you because within most
00:43:00.180 cultures that live within
00:43:01.360 America, if, if somebody
00:43:03.480 says, I want to dress up and
00:43:05.080 play like a cat, that's
00:43:07.600 sexual role play.
00:43:08.860 That's like a sexual thing,
00:43:10.580 right?
00:43:10.800 Like I've had girls who
00:43:11.780 wanted to do that.
00:43:12.440 Like, cool.
00:43:13.720 Right.
00:43:14.420 But I wouldn't walk them
00:43:15.580 around on like a leash and
00:43:17.000 like a cat and like a public
00:43:18.160 context because everyone
00:43:19.040 would be like, oh, that's
00:43:20.900 a sex thing that they are
00:43:22.640 forcing on me without my
00:43:23.680 consent.
00:43:24.300 Yeah, man.
00:43:24.800 Get a room.
00:43:26.580 Lingerie covers about as
00:43:28.820 much as skimpy mainstream
00:43:31.160 female clothing.
00:43:32.360 But we culturally recognize
00:43:34.680 lingerie as a sexualized
00:43:36.440 outfit and display, right?
00:43:37.960 If you went to a
00:43:40.720 children's book leading
00:43:42.000 dressed in lingerie, you
00:43:43.960 would understand and the
00:43:45.080 audience would understand
00:43:46.140 that within most people's
00:43:47.880 cultures, not within
00:43:48.640 everyone's culture, within
00:43:49.980 most of the attendance
00:43:51.040 cultures, that is a
00:43:52.140 sexualized display that you
00:43:53.360 are subjecting them to
00:43:54.120 without their consent.
00:43:56.100 This is true for not
00:43:58.340 every, like if you're
00:43:59.760 trans and you're totally
00:44:00.720 passing and everything
00:44:01.520 like that, that's
00:44:02.280 generally not a
00:44:03.220 sexualized display.
00:44:04.320 But the way that many
00:44:05.540 people are dressing at
00:44:06.420 like children's book
00:44:07.340 readings is very clearly a
00:44:09.300 sexualized display and an
00:44:10.320 intentional sexualized
00:44:11.260 display.
00:44:11.980 Like everything that
00:44:12.900 Alec Bade Menon does, like
00:44:14.180 the way they dress, is
00:44:16.620 always a sexualized
00:44:17.780 display.
00:44:18.100 It is the equivalent of
00:44:19.920 lingerie, right?
00:44:21.120 And they are subjecting
00:44:22.740 individuals to this
00:44:23.580 without these individuals'
00:44:24.900 consent and knowing that
00:44:25.720 they are from the
00:44:26.720 perspective of those
00:44:27.380 people's parents subjecting
00:44:28.600 the children to a
00:44:29.240 sexualized display.
00:44:30.280 And I think that that's
00:44:31.300 really, really effed up.
00:44:33.000 And I think that that's
00:44:34.160 what we're talking about
00:44:34.860 when we're saying you are
00:44:36.120 defining your culture as
00:44:37.520 having more rights than
00:44:39.200 any other culture.
00:44:40.600 You're basically saying
00:44:41.380 everybody has to adopt
00:44:42.680 my cultural norms.
00:44:44.520 And it's the same with
00:44:45.380 gendery, right?
00:44:46.580 I, when I talk to a
00:44:47.960 Catholic priest, like I
00:44:49.280 may not be Catholic, but
00:44:50.380 I'd still call them
00:44:51.020 father because, you
00:44:52.280 know, they earn that
00:44:53.040 title through their
00:44:53.620 system.
00:44:54.100 But I can understand
00:44:55.140 somebody from a strong
00:44:56.300 other religious background
00:44:57.400 being like, I'm sorry,
00:44:58.720 I just can't call you
00:44:59.440 father because I do not,
00:45:01.060 like you're not my father
00:45:02.080 from my perspective,
00:45:03.040 right?
00:45:04.300 The Catholic priest
00:45:05.060 doesn't say, well, by
00:45:05.780 law, you have to call me
00:45:06.880 father.
00:45:07.240 I'm going to make it so
00:45:07.820 that you have to call me
00:45:08.400 father by law.
00:45:09.220 You have to call me by
00:45:09.740 this title.
00:45:10.200 But the trans community
00:45:11.540 does do that if somebody
00:45:12.780 has a religious objection
00:45:13.740 to this.
00:45:14.740 No, they're like, we will
00:45:15.740 get you fired.
00:45:16.520 We will make this legal.
00:45:18.760 And that's, that is
00:45:19.680 fundamentally a violation
00:45:21.200 of other people's consent,
00:45:22.440 which is really, really
00:45:23.620 bad to force that on
00:45:25.440 people, particularly to
00:45:26.680 force it on children,
00:45:27.740 particularly to defend the
00:45:29.320 people who are forcing
00:45:30.020 it on children.
00:45:31.380 And this is when people
00:45:32.180 being like, well, are you
00:45:33.680 just saying I can't be my
00:45:34.640 identity around children?
00:45:35.720 And it's like, no, like
00:45:37.920 you can, you can interact
00:45:39.240 with children was out
00:45:40.120 wearing a clearly
00:45:41.000 sexualized display.
00:45:42.140 And this is why I use
00:45:43.040 lingerie here, right?
00:45:43.940 Because lingerie, you
00:45:45.720 should be able to wear
00:45:46.620 around children.
00:45:47.200 Like lingerie covers up
00:45:48.580 all your bits.
00:45:49.620 You know what I mean?
00:45:50.140 Like from just like a
00:45:50.980 pure, like I'm following
00:45:52.200 the rules perspective.
00:45:53.320 Oh, like technically
00:45:54.420 speaking.
00:45:55.660 Technically speaking,
00:45:56.540 you're covering up
00:45:57.280 everything you're
00:45:57.820 supposed to be covering
00:45:58.440 up.
00:45:58.980 But like we all
00:46:00.220 understand that you
00:46:01.640 don't wear this in
00:46:02.380 front of kids, right?
00:46:03.380 Because culturally we
00:46:04.480 recognize this as a
00:46:05.240 sexualized display.
00:46:05.920 OK, it's the same for
00:46:07.700 most of the outfits you
00:46:09.740 see at things like
00:46:10.520 children's book
00:46:11.040 readings.
00:46:12.180 And people can be
00:46:13.960 like, well, you don't
00:46:14.780 have a problem with most
00:46:15.700 of the trans community.
00:46:16.200 No, I don't.
00:46:16.760 And this is actually
00:46:17.160 the problem.
00:46:18.560 But the community then
00:46:20.280 defends these individuals
00:46:21.500 and said if you attack
00:46:22.420 these people who are
00:46:23.020 doing sexualized
00:46:23.700 displays around
00:46:25.080 children, you are
00:46:26.220 functionally murdering
00:46:27.340 us.
00:46:27.620 I'm like, OK, one, not
00:46:28.820 true.
00:46:29.240 But two, when you
00:46:30.040 normalize that, then you
00:46:31.020 normalize murder.
00:46:32.220 And so I think if that
00:46:33.380 statement that people need
00:46:34.580 to like freak out and
00:46:35.700 fight back against
00:46:36.760 really strongly, when
00:46:37.940 everyone says you need
00:46:39.080 to respond to them, that
00:46:40.960 type of language is
00:46:42.080 both a lie and leads
00:46:43.620 to people being killed.
00:46:46.080 And that's upstream of
00:46:47.980 all this.
00:46:48.880 This isn't upstream of
00:46:50.100 gun culture.
00:46:50.920 This isn't upstream of
00:46:52.100 I'd even say normal
00:46:54.300 far progressive ideology.
00:46:56.040 This is downstream of
00:46:57.300 the belief that
00:46:58.400 disagreeing with you
00:46:59.680 is killing people.
00:47:00.680 And this is held
00:47:01.280 commonly within like
00:47:02.580 the punch of fascist,
00:47:03.800 within the Antifa
00:47:05.240 community, which I've
00:47:06.320 always found so funny
00:47:07.060 because they're literal
00:47:08.020 black shirts.
00:47:08.860 They're doing what the
00:47:09.740 literal black shirt, i.e.
00:47:11.060 they call themselves
00:47:11.680 black shirts.
00:47:12.280 Antifa calls themselves
00:47:12.900 black shirts.
00:47:13.220 What's a black shirt?
00:47:14.200 Sorry, ignorant.
00:47:15.640 So Antifa is unaware
00:47:17.820 of this, but black shirts
00:47:19.480 are what the brown shirts
00:47:20.700 that the Nazis had were
00:47:21.760 named after.
00:47:22.840 In fascist Italy, where
00:47:24.260 fascism was invented,
00:47:25.980 their common public
00:47:28.240 enforcer were called
00:47:29.360 black shirts.
00:47:30.380 And this is why the
00:47:30.900 Nazis called their
00:47:31.600 enforcers brown shirts.
00:47:32.620 And now Antifa is
00:47:33.840 again calling themselves
00:47:34.780 black shirts, enforcing
00:47:36.340 a fascist ideology that
00:47:37.720 wants to divide humans
00:47:38.740 based on our ethnic
00:47:39.640 group and sexuality
00:47:40.680 and gender.
00:47:42.260 And, you know,
00:47:42.720 fortunately they're all
00:47:43.760 dying out due to their
00:47:44.580 fertility rates, but
00:47:45.460 they're going to try to
00:47:46.360 take a lot of us
00:47:46.960 wisdom on the way.
00:47:47.740 And we need to be ready
00:47:49.180 to call them out as
00:47:52.060 being the equivalent of
00:47:53.520 a murderer whenever
00:47:54.260 they say you are
00:47:56.220 killing people in our
00:47:57.360 community by saying this
00:47:58.440 when we know that's
00:47:59.580 factually untrue.
00:48:00.280 And as we pointed out
00:48:01.160 in our episode, the one
00:48:02.200 about the Atlantic
00:48:03.060 piece where the
00:48:04.640 Atlantic is going
00:48:05.920 against the trans
00:48:06.920 community and argues
00:48:08.220 from a leftist
00:48:09.420 perspective, there is
00:48:10.760 literally zero evidence
00:48:11.940 that this increases the
00:48:12.880 unaliving risk
00:48:13.420 in the community.
00:48:14.100 I think that that's
00:48:14.900 downstream of all the
00:48:15.740 rest of this.
00:48:16.540 I'm not going to read
00:48:17.340 more teachers saying
00:48:18.120 stuff because you guys
00:48:19.180 know that people are
00:48:19.980 doing this.
00:48:20.400 You know there's like
00:48:21.040 25 instances of this.
00:48:23.180 This is mainstream
00:48:24.100 was in our school system
00:48:25.240 and these are just the
00:48:26.220 ones dumb enough to
00:48:26.920 post with their own.
00:48:27.820 You know who are
00:48:29.000 celebrating the
00:48:30.300 severe undermining
00:48:32.660 possibly for the time
00:48:35.000 being downfall of open
00:48:36.720 public discourse in the
00:48:38.080 United States.
00:48:38.900 Yeah that's what he
00:48:39.360 represented and I think
00:48:41.200 that that's why I get so
00:48:42.780 angry when people on the
00:48:44.060 right are like we should
00:48:45.660 never violate the law
00:48:48.040 and you know kill
00:48:51.040 someone right because
00:48:52.700 it's like well you're
00:48:55.000 also saying but we're
00:48:56.420 headed towards civil war
00:48:57.520 which means you don't
00:48:58.240 believe that say what
00:48:59.760 you believe which is
00:49:00.900 that you only do
00:49:03.480 something like this when
00:49:04.760 somebody is in the
00:49:06.520 process of like a mass
00:49:07.440 murder and legal
00:49:08.160 solutions don't happen
00:49:09.140 matter or work so when
00:49:11.300 you are net saving
00:49:12.520 lives and that's why I
00:49:13.900 get so angry by these
00:49:14.840 people being like oh
00:49:15.560 you never violate the
00:49:16.460 law no you violate the
00:49:17.260 law when the law is
00:49:18.280 going to leave like you
00:49:19.540 have to be aware you
00:49:20.340 can't talk about
00:49:21.300 revolutions on one side
00:49:22.280 of your mouth and then
00:49:23.280 talk about always
00:49:24.660 following the law from
00:49:25.520 the other side of your
00:49:26.080 mouth you need to call
00:49:26.720 out what the actual
00:49:27.320 problem here is
00:49:28.260 anyway any final
00:49:30.600 thoughts Simone
00:49:31.100 this is dark and
00:49:33.360 depressing I just
00:49:34.400 I yeah I hoped that
00:49:38.900 we were better than
00:49:40.440 this and we're not
00:49:42.660 but I hope that what
00:49:45.620 we'll see as a result
00:49:47.740 of this is people
00:49:49.580 nevertheless rising
00:49:50.720 above and finding
00:49:51.600 creative ways to fight
00:49:53.900 for the same thing that
00:49:55.340 Kirk was fighting for
00:49:56.640 which is open
00:49:57.480 discourse and exchange
00:49:58.780 of ideas I still
00:50:00.620 think that there are
00:50:01.220 ways forward with
00:50:02.560 greater caution
00:50:03.460 obviously and I hope
00:50:04.700 that people stepped up
00:50:05.860 step up to pursue
00:50:07.080 them yep all right
00:50:09.320 love you Simone have a
00:50:10.600 spectacular day you
00:50:13.040 too dark times but we
00:50:15.980 get to see our kids
00:50:16.600 soon so there's that
00:50:17.780 yeah well people were
00:50:19.820 remarking in the other
00:50:20.440 video that you were
00:50:21.060 crying at the Charlie
00:50:21.800 Kirk assassination but I
00:50:22.940 like demanded no crying
00:50:23.980 when my mom died Simone
00:50:25.140 cried when my mom died I
00:50:26.360 didn't cry did I cry I
00:50:28.520 seem to remember you
00:50:29.200 crying a couple times a
00:50:30.560 little bit but you were
00:50:31.380 trying to hold it in
00:50:32.000 because you could see that
00:50:32.520 I was holding it in and I
00:50:33.720 think that made you feel
00:50:34.480 like you didn't have the
00:50:35.920 right to yeah what again
00:50:39.660 my weak spot is anything
00:50:42.180 bad happening to kids
00:50:43.720 especially and knowing he
00:50:45.440 has a wife and two young
00:50:46.880 kids I yeah I mean
00:50:48.700 just no actually they
00:50:50.820 weren't there thank god
00:50:51.660 they were that was yeah
00:50:52.480 misreported widely
00:50:54.080 misreported but yeah
00:50:56.100 thank thank goodness they
00:50:58.140 were not physically
00:50:58.780 present that doesn't
00:50:59.920 change the fact that they
00:51:00.780 are very likely going to
00:51:01.700 see that footage again and
00:51:02.640 again throughout their
00:51:03.280 lives and that deficits
00:51:04.780 me oh I bet people are
00:51:06.100 sending it to them
00:51:06.800 regularly I mean you know
00:51:07.700 how progressives are
00:51:08.420 well they're they're too
00:51:09.160 they're too young now to
00:51:10.480 be exposed I mean it's
00:51:11.220 like I think they're three
00:51:12.000 in one but yeah okay
00:51:13.320 great well thanks now I'm
00:51:14.460 crying again so you should
00:51:16.120 reach out to his wife we'll
00:51:16.840 put them in our marriage
00:51:17.680 network seem like good
00:51:19.240 people yeah they're
00:51:20.920 amazing people anyway
00:51:22.280 yeah okay love you
00:51:23.420 Simone bye I love you
00:51:24.440 too okay for the yeah
00:51:29.580 I'm thrilled that we've
00:51:31.020 Diasmon golded your room
00:51:32.360 I'm really proud of it
00:51:33.380 oh your mic isn't plugged
00:51:36.160 in oh yeah see look at
00:51:39.020 that the I could walk on
00:51:40.540 the floor I can walk on
00:51:42.960 the floor it's incredible
00:51:44.100 yeah but I can't I can't
00:51:46.520 hear anything you're
00:51:47.060 saying
00:51:47.340 your mic still isn't
00:51:52.760 plugged in
00:51:53.280 hey can you hear me
00:51:54.800 yeah no I can
00:51:55.680 it's amazing
00:51:57.280 I love this and I love
00:52:00.200 that reality fabric
00:52:01.500 for caterers is mostly
00:52:02.460 working I was checking
00:52:03.360 the logic on the not
00:52:04.160 safe for work story
00:52:04.940 generator and it needs a
00:52:06.520 significant overhead
00:52:07.680 overhaul so I'm gonna try
00:52:09.100 to get that handled by the
00:52:10.440 end of this week
00:52:10.940 what seems to be
00:52:11.700 breaking
00:52:12.100 what so the logic that
00:52:15.260 it's using when I was
00:52:16.280 originally creating it it
00:52:17.540 was difficult because it
00:52:18.680 kept not wanting to do not
00:52:20.180 safe for work anything
00:52:20.960 right this was the coding
00:52:22.640 apps not the apps that we
00:52:23.820 have running the AI in it
00:52:24.800 which are meant for not
00:52:25.700 safe for work but they're
00:52:26.480 not good at coding anyway so
00:52:28.840 it wrote a lot of the
00:52:29.980 back end assuming like full
00:52:31.480 stories instead of specific
00:52:33.000 not safe for work world
00:52:34.100 play scenarios so we are
00:52:37.640 gusting enough to work
00:52:38.800 better with just creating
00:52:39.980 scenarios for not safe for
00:52:41.120 work stuff and better
00:52:42.580 seeing and interpreting
00:52:44.380 what the user wants from
00:52:45.940 those scenarios because
00:52:47.400 right now it's just too
00:52:48.100 much of a generic adventure
00:52:49.120 creator with a bunch of
00:52:50.300 like fluff in the
00:52:51.540 creation process that it
00:52:52.580 doesn't really need so it
00:52:54.480 will be able to create
00:52:55.220 your wildest fantasies
00:52:56.480 with just a few clicks and
00:52:58.140 then you get to select the
00:52:59.160 one that you want most
00:53:00.120 my favorite thing about the
00:53:02.320 NSFW section is there's a
00:53:04.620 checklist like if you
00:53:05.540 don't immediately have some
00:53:06.620 fantasy you want to
00:53:07.380 create you can just go
00:53:09.160 check off everything that
00:53:10.340 might potentially turn you
00:53:11.960 on and I don't like it
00:53:13.640 just from a perspective of
00:53:14.680 like okay I know these are
00:53:15.780 my kinks or fetishes or
00:53:17.780 whatever but like maybe you
00:53:20.200 don't there were things in
00:53:21.920 there that I'd never heard
00:53:22.740 of before and we wrote a
00:53:23.820 book on sexuality together
00:53:25.060 but if you're like well
00:53:26.100 maybe in her blog
00:53:28.020 knowingless Ayla for
00:53:29.520 example had talked about
00:53:30.620 you know a lot of women
00:53:32.200 don't realize for example
00:53:33.380 that they're into BDSM and
00:53:34.580 they'll live huge portions of
00:53:36.120 their lives not getting any
00:53:37.420 satisfaction from sex and
00:53:38.600 then they suddenly discover
00:53:39.400 the power dynamics make it
00:53:41.380 for them and they're like
00:53:42.560 whoa I actually relate to
00:53:44.220 like sex and I think this
00:53:46.500 is a really great low stakes
00:53:47.980 way to explore stuff that
00:53:50.480 you may you may have no idea
00:53:53.060 turns you on or not like in
00:53:55.380 terms of just our kids
00:53:56.440 exploring their sexuality in a
00:53:58.120 safe way I know it's really
00:54:01.140 bad to like you can have
00:54:02.540 no I've been in a stepped up
00:54:03.800 yeah I agree for this yeah
00:54:05.600 to give people an a a sort
00:54:08.740 of non-human outlet to
00:54:11.080 relieve sexual impulses and
00:54:13.920 explore and explore you know
00:54:15.520 because then you know if it's
00:54:18.180 if it's good at handling those
00:54:19.840 then you don't need to do you
00:54:21.740 know human stuff right which is
00:54:25.100 yeah human stuff like for
00:54:27.060 example I've seen some people
00:54:28.220 who have like kinks and they
00:54:29.520 like demand that they find a
00:54:31.580 husband or wife that matches
00:54:32.660 their kinks and I'm like no
00:54:34.740 don't don't do that your
00:54:36.360 kinks are rare like and it's
00:54:38.180 gonna have very little to do
00:54:39.260 with your relationship do that
00:54:40.360 with like an AI or something
00:54:41.480 right like don't don't rope
00:54:44.240 your human wife or husband
00:54:46.440 into this yeah that's this
00:54:48.380 incredibly niche thing that
00:54:49.780 has like nothing to do with
00:54:50.800 your personality yeah just
00:54:52.040 think of the number of
00:54:52.920 relationships that will be
00:54:54.000 saved because people have a
00:54:56.240 different outlet than putting
00:54:57.260 their entire same marriage on
00:54:59.780 the line because they want
00:55:01.740 greater sexual satisfaction
00:55:03.400 yeah it's it's wonderful it's
00:55:06.100 a thing of beauty well we'll
00:55:07.720 see I mean the adventure
00:55:08.580 creator part of the AI is
00:55:09.780 working great right now so if
00:55:10.920 you want to if you want to
00:55:11.620 play adventures we got some
00:55:12.820 great scenarios on there all
00:55:14.000 that's working if you want to
00:55:15.360 experiment with like multiple
00:55:16.260 AIs talking to each other so
00:55:17.940 like suppose you wrote a
00:55:18.980 document and you're like I
00:55:20.220 don't want to know like what
00:55:21.240 one AI would have to say about
00:55:22.500 this I want to know like what
00:55:23.620 conversation multiple AIs
00:55:24.960 would have about this we have a
00:55:26.460 feature of the AI lab that
00:55:27.540 lets you do that which I
00:55:28.420 haven't seen anyone else
00:55:29.120 offer so I think it's pretty
00:55:29.920 fun anyway I what did
00:55:32.640 people say on the episode
00:55:33.600 today about China women and
00:55:35.620 dating the biggest thing that
00:55:37.760 we missed which I really
00:55:39.300 appreciate people pointing
00:55:40.560 out a couple people pointed
00:55:41.660 this out as as you saw too in
00:55:43.420 the comments was that single
00:55:46.560 women or women in China in
00:55:49.640 general have basically been
00:55:50.740 raised as only children spoiled
00:55:52.560 brats and also because of the
00:55:54.600 gender difference the fact that
00:55:56.580 there are many more men
00:55:58.180 millions more men than women
00:55:59.760 to have just wildly
00:56:01.740 unrealistic expectations like
00:56:03.220 you are a rare you are a
00:56:05.280 little princess like you
00:56:06.720 deserve everything and there
00:56:08.500 was this one I read about
00:56:10.280 this and or heard about this
00:56:11.280 in another podcast called
00:56:12.620 textury by this great
00:56:13.780 youtuber you all should check
00:56:15.520 her out if you're a girl I
00:56:17.200 guess that goes through
00:56:18.160 historical texts in a kind of
00:56:19.620 gossipy way but it she she
00:56:21.880 read excerpts from this one
00:56:23.780 like Victorian writers advice
00:56:25.680 on who to marry as a man or
00:56:27.140 a woman he had separate books
00:56:28.220 for each but in each he
00:56:29.840 warned against marrying
00:56:31.680 anyone who was a single
00:56:32.680 child like because their
00:56:34.020 parents were failures sort of
00:56:35.980 genetically like they're
00:56:37.360 unfit as it is and and
00:56:38.700 probably they've been raised
00:56:39.880 to be really selfish and I
00:56:41.300 feel like obviously I'm I'm
00:56:43.280 one of the single child
00:56:44.120 created like a whole
00:56:44.940 generation of that yeah
00:56:46.420 that's the thing though is
00:56:47.580 is like there is truth to
00:56:49.300 what this guy said and you're
00:56:51.780 a single child I know and
00:56:54.520 look at what you've had to
00:56:55.280 put up with you you have
00:56:57.500 two half siblings so not
00:56:58.720 really and I planned on
00:56:59.880 never getting married either
00:57:00.680 because I was too spoiled and
00:57:02.400 didn't want to compromise on
00:57:03.460 anything so compromise ish
00:57:07.100 no I'm sorry there's another
00:57:09.780 point I wanted to get to
00:57:10.500 there that was interesting
00:57:11.400 what were we talking about
00:57:12.320 I mean the only common
00:57:13.380 comment on the women in
00:57:15.740 China episode is like this
00:57:17.200 ain't just a woman in China
00:57:18.380 oh yeah women everywhere
00:57:19.900 I mean people don't realize
00:57:22.180 how big this is so when we
00:57:23.980 talk about China's low
00:57:25.200 fertility rate right you
00:57:27.420 know we're looking at the
00:57:28.220 fertility rate of people who
00:57:29.900 are already married right
00:57:30.900 usually speaking especially in
00:57:32.300 a Chinese context and if the
00:57:35.020 marriage rate has halved from
00:57:37.540 2013 till today the very
00:57:40.220 recent time window that means
00:57:42.400 we're probably not seeing the
00:57:44.080 impact of that in the
00:57:45.220 fertility rate yet so we are
00:57:48.720 looking to see the fertility
00:57:49.960 rate drop even more
00:57:51.140 dramatically going forwards
00:57:52.360 outlook not good says eight
00:57:55.880 ball
00:57:56.160 oh it's bad it is so bad all
00:58:02.160 right I'll get started here
00:58:04.000 why can't you stop dancing
00:58:07.160 I just hear a beat my body is
00:58:11.480 hearing the beat wait you can't
00:58:16.140 stop dancing you can't stop
00:58:16.340 dancing because my because I
00:58:19.100 because my body can still hear
00:58:22.300 the beat but there's no music
00:58:24.900 playing my friend there is I'm
00:58:28.280 not telling that there's music oh
00:58:31.360 it's like in your head yeah so I
00:58:34.920 can't stop dancing but you're a
00:58:38.320 really good dancer what does the
00:58:42.600 music sound like oh yeah oh yeah
00:58:54.360 I'm dancing to the beat I'm
00:58:56.960 dancing I'm dancing I'm dancing to
00:58:59.600 the beat yeah yeah yeah is that the
00:59:02.480 song
00:59:02.600 yeah
00:59:03.600 there's zombies there's zombies
00:59:06.600 there's zombies that's the one
00:59:07.840 whoa whoa whoa
00:59:09.600 I'm gonna go
00:59:10.600 oh
00:59:11.600 oh
00:59:12.600 oh did you dance to so much you
00:59:15.280 pass out oh the beat broke in your
00:59:35.040 head
00:59:37.040 yeah
00:59:38.040 yeah
00:59:40.040 I just know the froggy I just heurecly
00:59:40.640 yeah
00:59:40.880 I just saw the doggy
00:59:42.320 yeah
00:59:42.960 yeah
00:59:43.380 yeah
00:59:44.360 yeah
00:59:45.020 yeah
00:59:45.960 I just saw the froggy, I just
00:59:47.540 saw the froggy I just saw the doggy
00:59:48.160 I swear I just saw the froggy I
00:59:49.820 swear I just saw the froggy però
00:59:52.560 I swear I just saw the froggy
00:59:54.260 mesmer Ayenne I just saw the froggy