Explained： Why the Left Platforms Bad Actors
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A trans high school swimmer, Leah Thomas, was accused of flashing her genitals in front of other girls in the locker room. Why did the gay and lesbian community not disown her when they learned that she was a member of their community?
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Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about
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a new theory that I had that explained something that had always kind of troubled me, which is
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why did the mainstream sort of urban monocultural woke LGBT side of that movement, why did they
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not disown the sort of degenerate sex pest types when it would turn out that someone that they
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had pedestalized was in that category? Or why would they even was pre-knowledge that somebody was
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within this category of trans? Why were they not like, oh, well, you know, of course, that's not
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what we're fighting for. You know, this is just, you know, one individual. This is just, this is an
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example of like what we don't want. Right. You know, and, and this is something that, that
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historically other groups did push back against, you know, you, you look at, you know, some of the
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early like gay stuff and, and they'd push back against, you know, the, the classic example of
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like Mr. Garrison and Mr. Slave trying to get fired by being the over the top outlandish.
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And a lot of gay people historically, like when I was involved in the GSA movement back in the day
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and everything like that, they were really against this stuff. They, they, they, they were
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against it to the extent that it was framed as being, you know, homophobic to, to act this way,
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because you were creating this negative stereotype of their community. And it makes your job harder
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if you accept and pedestalize these sorts of individuals. And you would assume that your average
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person, instead of, you know, going to bat for these people would instead say, oh, well, that's not,
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you know, I'll get some examples of this. It always really get me the, the Leah Thomas.
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I don't think anyone, you could argue that, you know, Leah Thomas was not a central figure of the
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trans movement in the United States. She was the trans high school swimmer, male to female, who then,
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you know, won a bunch of stuff. And people were like, Hey, this is totally unfair. When she was a
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male, she was like losing everything. And now she's winning everything. And this seems like she has a
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biological advantage. And most people were like, yeah, I mean, pretty obviously, but it came out pretty
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quickly afterwards that she in her locker was flashing what most people would perceive to be
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male genitals at the other girls in the locker room. And this was an accusation that was made
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in a number of prominent places. She never, despite speaking adjacent to this accusation,
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never denied it, never spoke against it. The argument was always like, well, you know,
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girls have the right to be naked in front of other girls in the, in the locker room. And I'm a girl now,
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which to me indicates, this isn't like some unverified report. This is something that was
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definitely happening. Right. Like it's also, I would note that in my entire experience on a swim team
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from like middle, all the way through high school, I never saw a naked girl.
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I want to shower swimsuits. This is, this is also a really important point. So these days, even,
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even to an extent to our childhood, but, but, but especially these days, because this is a trend
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that's been amplifying intergenerationally. It is not culturally normal in American high schools
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to be naked in the locker room in front of other kids. Like, what did you do after swim meets? And
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this was a long time ago before our curriculum was told you, you told me you showered in the
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swimsuits. We showered in our swimsuits. That's absolutely the case. And you would, you know,
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actually shower again and like change clothes at home. And also if you went to the bathroom,
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you wouldn't even like, you wouldn't pull off your swimsuit. You'd pull the bottom aside.
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Yeah. And I never, as I mean, and this was even a while ago. So this was like 20 years ago and
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it's gotten much stricter to the extent that they do private showers on high schools now and stuff
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like that when they build new ones. Cause they go, we build the public ones. Nobody uses them.
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I don't think I ever saw more than like one or two naked boys. And this was the, and this would
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always be tied to like a very specific sport where it was normalized. Yeah. When we talked about this in
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another episode, a lot of the people in the comments pointed out that like one exception where
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it just seems to be even obligated is wrestling teams, but I get it. I was on wrestling teams.
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I didn't see it that much. Really? I can see it though. Like you get actually sweaty and gross.
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So I could see people being like, the lacrosse teams would get actually sweaty and gross.
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Yeah. Yeah. Like you don't get that with swimming with swimming. It's, it makes sense that you're
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showering out of a chlorinated pool. I mean, you, you want to rinse off the chlorine.
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So the point being is your outfit that you swam in is meant to get wet. Yeah. Like that is why
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it's so normalized to just shower in your swim outfit because it also needs to be cleaned off.
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Yeah. So the point being is this is an individual who is doing something
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that was not culturally normal. They were flashing people intentionally. Okay.
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And not, not a single person on the left I saw was like, Hey, we should stop pedestalizing this
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person. This is clearly a sex pest who is just getting off on violating other people's consents
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and using a trans identity to do that. Like, and as I've always pointed out, if you create an
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identity like transness and you say, okay, well, we do want to protect people who, who have this
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condition. Right. And we don't want them to be othered. Of course, if you say, and to do that,
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we're going to say, they're not allowed to be criticized for like anything they do. Of course,
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sex pests are going to use that. Like you and I remember sex pests from high school, like
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the sex pest boys, if they had had the option to use this and go into women's restrooms and,
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you know, pressure women, they would have absolutely used this. There is a category of that. I remember
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from my childhood. And I was like, well, thank God this identity didn't exist then because they would
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have used it to, to pressure themselves on people. And this doesn't, you know, invalidate that there
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might be real trans people. You can see our other episodes on that particular topic, but what it does
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in, in, invalidate is obviously if you normalize this identity and normalize protection for it,
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some people are going to abuse that. The question is, is when it is clear that somebody is just
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abusing it, why aren't people pushing against it? Why aren't people- Right. Because it can hurt the
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movement. I mean, the whole TERF movement was in response to this and the Supreme Court ruling in
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the United States that was not in favor of the, the trans movement resulted from this. And had
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those lines never been crossed in the first place, this would not have happened. We would not see
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Supreme Court rulings solidifying a conclusion that the trans community would not support.
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Well, where you see like in our Anna Valen's episode, where this is a Vice writer in her very
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first article for Vice is like Vice has hired a monster girl, a fetish artist to their platform.
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And, and she, she starts in character with the article, you know, basically forcing you to engage
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with this fantasy she has. And it was clear if you watch all of Anna Valen's stuff, she's a person who
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just clearly gets off on violating other people's consent. This is, this is clear from the,
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the fiction she writes, but also the way she lives her life. You know, she hasn't had a bottom surgery.
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She goes into communities. She complains at these communities that the lesbians do not want to sleep
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with her. And then sort of fantasizes about, well, them being forced to, to sleep with her. And,
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and, and, and cis women, you know, she's written numerous long things about forcing cis women to
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sleep with her. Why would you hire somebody who's doing this? Who's written a lot about like forced
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feminization. Like if this is a movement that is about normalizing the idea that it, no,
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this isn't a fetish thing. This is just who I was born. Then why do you, you know, give a microphone
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to somebody who's writing a lot of forced feminization, erotic material, right? Like,
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and had the long history of this and isn't hiding this within the, the stuff that they're writing.
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And we've noted other like horrible things that, that she has done, like using a vibrator with,
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you know, a video game that kids were playing that to go off whenever one of the other characters
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would touch her without, obviously without the other people's consent. But you could then get
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people like Alec Vade Menon, who recently got a, a Netflix special. And before getting this Netflix
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special, something that they had said, I Googled what the correct pronouns were, is little girls
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are also trans, queer, kinky, devious, kind, mean, beautiful, ugly, and peculiar. Your kids aren't as
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straight and narrow as you think they are. So this was in response to the little girls in,
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in, in seeing him in a, in a bathroom. So he's saying in regards to what he thinks of the little
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girls who see in a bathroom, him in a bathroom, he's saying, well, you don't know that they're not
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kinky. He's saying, you, you don't know that they're as straight and narrow as you think they
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are. He is, or sorry, they are actively fantasizing about the way a little girl is responding to him
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and that it is basically about a little girl imagining him in a situation. Right. And his
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supporters, I love it. Like I tried to get AI to like, be, be honest about this. It was like, oh no,
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there's nothing wrong with that tweet. I'm like, how can you say that? Like, it's like, well, kinky
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can mean other things than, than sexual things. And I'm like, but in this context, it very clearly
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means into what they are seeing when they see this person who does not even attempt to pass
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in these restaurants. Why doesn't the urban monoculture reject this? It's a really good
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question. Alec Veidman is a very good example of this because when you look at this individual,
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somebody who recently got a Netflix special, they are not somebody who feels that they were born in
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the wrong body. If you look at the way they dress and the way they attempt to appear,
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they are somebody that intentionally is like sex pest maxing. They want to look like an assailant.
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That is their entire vibe. They, they want to make you uncomfortable in the way that they look and
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they want you to feel uncomfortable with the way they look. That is clearly what they are going for.
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So why is this normalized? Interesting question to me. Yeah. Cause you're losing a lot of people,
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if you allow that. You're losing a ton of people. There must be some benefit.
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And I, and I kept thinking through like the logic of this. I just couldn't think of
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the logic behind this. It did not logically make sense to me. And so then I started to think, okay,
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well, let's think about this evolutionarily. All right. Okay. What evolutionary advantage
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could one group, because we pointed out one reason why sometimes the culture will adopt a thing,
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like, for example, the urban monoculture disproportionately targeting children,
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like really should not be doing like the children book reading and stuff like that. Right. Like
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that is, that is drag queen story hour is something that if you wanted to be like an accepted and have
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people not freak out about your movement is not something you would be doing.
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When asked about parents' rights, OJ says, well, actually in Canada, parents' rights are limited.
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So the child has a right to be protected from the parents when the parents behave badly.
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Like village resident, Dave Davey DiCarlo supports OJ and limiting parental rights.
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The change that we have to see is sometimes the parent, but it turns out that people
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disproportionately deconvert from their birth culture between the ages of 13 and 23. And
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basically after 13, 23, if they haven't deconverted, they never will. And so you have to catch them at
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that age range. And so the iteration of the urban monoculture that put prohibitions on targeting that
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age range or had a squick about it ended up dying out and being replaced. So it wasn't ever logic that
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this was a good idea to involve kids in this. It was that this led to higher cultural growth rates.
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So here, what I hypothesize as leading to the cultural growth rates is that when cultures,
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the urban monoculture, this is a culture that's involved with like leftism and wokeism. And it's
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like the dominant culture, whether you're in Manhattan or Rio or Paris, it's why those regions
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are all more culturally similar in their norms and taboos and everything like that, than any of them
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would be from like high fertility adjacent cultural groups to Manhattan, like say Orthodox Jews or Amish
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or us or evangelical Christians, who would all be very deviant from each other, but also deviant from
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that sort of urban, urban monocultural group. It's become this sort of memetic virus, right? That
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unlike other religious organizations, as we've pointed out historically, you can look at our video,
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like was Christianity actually more moral, mostly grew by preventing deaths, preventing infanticide,
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and very little of its growth came from conversion. In fact, if you look at mainstream religious
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traditions, it's very rare that over 10% of a population will be from conversion. And at the
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most, you will for short periods, see populations of around 30%. But even then, that's only often in
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regions where they have not been exposed to that religion before. And it's basically spreading,
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like you can almost think like an invasive species, because you just you just don't have
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resistances to it. It's new ideas, you have new populations that might be compatible with it.
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So once once it's been for proselytized for a while in an area, you typically don't get those 30%
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numbers anymore. Of course, this is outside of like extremist cults, but we're not going to do
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this isn't about them. The urban monoculture doesn't grow that way, i.e. by, you know, increasing
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an individual's quality of life, increasing the number of kids they have, increasing their mental
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health, increasing the probability of their kids stay in the tradition. It sort of hijacks somebody's
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brain, like that fungus in ants, that then just uses those ants's resources to replicate the
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fungus as much as possible. It doesn't care about the ant or the colony anymore. It will send the
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ant into the colony and infect all the other ants. And when it's ready to die, it climbs to the top
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of a stalk and its head explodes and spores go everywhere. You know, same way like when somebody
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is in an end stage of infection with the urban monoculture, as I talked about, it basically saps
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all of your vitality for life. And in the end stage of infection, individuals basically just plant
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themselves in front of a computer who's hurrying into the void. Like that's these people who are sending us
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death threats and everything like that. Like that's why it's so easy to like not, you know,
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consider them fully human anymore because the type of person who just goes online and like threatens
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people who they disagree with without engaging with any of their arguments, like clearly has lost an
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element of their humanity at that point. You know, they, they, they are the ant that has, has been
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eaten, except it's, it's sort of their brain that was spongified by all of this. But anyway, once a, a,
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a region reaches a certain level of infection, you have a problem, which is to say that certain
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individuals may have immunity or they may have come from a cultural tradition that provided them
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with a degree of immunity, like maybe evangelical Christian or Orthodox Jew or something like that,
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because most of these traditional systems have a degree of a memetic immune system built into them
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to prevent other, you know, insanities because the religion is supposed to help people. So providing
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with the medic immune system is useful. So, so do you know if you have somebody who is faking it
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within these groups, right? Like they might, they might be going along with everyone in public,
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but in private, they might have some sort of a pushback. So you need to develop some sort of class
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or repeated behavioral action, which can out the individuals who are, you know, just pretending to go
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along. And you're saying these sex pests are like the SS of the. They're sort of like an SS fishing
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operation, but yeah, we'll get to that. Welcome to tolerance camp. You are here because you would
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not repeat the lies that were required of you. Well, those days are now over. Here you will work
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every hour of every day. You will make a painting. You will not make any distinction between people of
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different color, people with different sexual preferences. You will accept everyone. What are you
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finger painting? Uh, a bear? A bear? A bear? A bear has nothing to do with accepting people
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of different races. Uh, I, I didn't know what else to paint. Start over. You will finger paint what we
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tell you. Go! Faster. Faster. Faster. Faster. Faster. Have this thing in order? Yes, mein Feuer. We are making
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the prisoners make macaroni pictures that illustrate diversity in the workplace. Excellent.
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Now, hold on. You might be like, well, I mean, what if somebody, so, so as an example, right? If you
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have one of these like clearly non-passing people who demands like weird, they, them pronouns, like
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Alec Bade Minnan or something like at your workplace, right? And, and they're clearly not passing,
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right? People who have a degree of immunity and a degree of integrity are going to struggle with
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misgendering them correctly. Um, and, and if they accidentally misgender them, right? Like,
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so suppose they decide to go along with it. Then this person will like accost them. As you can see
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many videos of people doing online of like poor waiters, like accidentally misgendering somebody
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who doesn't at all look like the gender they're claiming to be. And then they get accosted and their
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manager gets pulled over. And like, how did you expect them to know? They're just trying to do their
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job and like live their life. Like, why would you have this behavior pattern? Why would this behavior
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pattern be normalized and liked within progressive social media? Right. And then I was like, Oh,
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it is a great way to fish for potential defectors. And you might say, well, what if somebody is going
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to go along even under these conditions, if they're going to go along, even under these conditions,
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they're probably never going to really defect. They are too scared. They are being constantly
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reminded every day that you can lose your job if you push and you can't because what this enforcer
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class does. Cause often they soon end up with nothing left to live for really quickly. I mean,
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one of the things we pointed out with the surveillance thing is she transitioned, you know,
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sort of, I get the impression around like 25 or something and then hit the wall in her thirties and
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was like, nobody wants to sleep with me anymore. And it's like, yeah, you, you, you, this is why I do
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not understand transitioning into a woman as a man. You are going to hit the wall so effing fast and
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women, like with a man, your, your life just gets basically easier. Yeah. Your value in general on,
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on in sexual and dating marketplaces increases with time and with women, it decreases logarithmically.
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Yeah. And with a huge drop off after 30. Um, and so you're, you, you get like three or four years
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as like a desirable woman. And then most of your life as an undesirable woman who's sitting online,
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you know, in, in Anna Valen's case doing, you know, fetish content for a source of income and
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working for a games industry that like nobody is buying into anymore because it went too woke,
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right? Like all the, all those publications are shutting down and that's why she can't get work.
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And so you have this horrible life. So it's very easy to adopt this enforcer role where your entire
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life is dedicated to finding anybody who is willing to challenge the urban monocultural norms and
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attempting to destroy their life. Um, and, and is it a surprise that the key person who was
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calling out Kirsha, this, this VTuber, we have a couple episodes on what happened to her,
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but she just said very true thing, quoting a progressive politician in the UK, the unchecked
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regulation around immigration in the UK was leading to demographic shifts and that the immigrants were
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having more kids than the native population. And this would further exacerbate demographic shifts.
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And this is just like a blatantly true fact, like obviously, right? Like she can quote a reporter
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on this, et cetera. But, but she then tried to have her labeled first, um, in multiple vice articles.
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This happened in three different vice articles as a great replacement theorist, which, which clearly
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is not in any sort of actually problematic form of great replacement theory. And people have called
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us great replacement theorists as well. And I'm like, what quote, bro? Like, and, and then they,
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she's tried to have them, like, we can point out math, but math is math, right? Like,
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are you denying the like statistics? Right. And then she tried to label her a Nazi and she repeatedly
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just calls her a Nazi in her post for saying that unchecked immigration in the UK is going to lead to
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demographic changes. How, how, but that is the system with which this sort of enforcer priest cast
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uses within the urban monoculture, which is in your body. When you get like a foreign element,
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you have something called an antigen, which bonds to it, which then tells the white blood cells to
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attack it. And so these individuals sort of act like an urban monocultural white blood cell system
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where one of them will tag anything that they see as showing a degree of immunity. And in Kirsha,
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my God, this, this girl has immunity to the urban monoculture. Anything that might be showing a degree
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of immunity to the urban monoculture, like us or her, uh, is one of these antigens. And then all of the
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other white blood cells know to attack this thing through online comments because they've got nothing
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left going on in their lives. You know, they've got no family, often no real friends, you know,
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really small networks. The only people who often care about them. And you see this in a lot of these
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posts are the people who are passing them around and using them for sex. And we've seen this because
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a number of them, when the whole preps thing was going around and people were freaked out,
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they're like, wait, why is the government paying for a drug that you would only need if you were having
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casual sex with strangers? Um, like, like orgy parties. And some people were like,
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I wouldn't have any friends if I didn't do this. Like, what, what am I supposed to do? Right?
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Like, and you're like, wait, all of your human relationships are by people who are using you
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for, that's not normal. Like that, that's when I say normal, I don't mean like, oh, my way of living
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is better than yours. I mean, I, I, I, I struggle to see how somebody could build value in themselves
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when they're living that lifestyle. Like that's not psychologically healthy that you've been led down
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that path. But so these people, you know, they've got all day, they're not really doing anything else
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to sit around and try to get people fired. And we've seen this with the Kirscher case, you know,
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they'll call up like, oh, look at this hate thing that so, so-and-so was posting. Do you want to
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fire them? And Kirscher recently did a piece, I think it was on her, it was on another case recently
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where some woke person was claiming that somebody was being transphobic. And you know, it's hard not
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to be transphobic when you're dealing with facts. We've pointed out like the data is transphobic now,
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you know, the study in 2023, gender discontentedness and gender non-contented youth showed that of 13
00:22:35.240
year olds that identify with another gender around nine and 10 of them identify with their
00:22:39.460
birth gender by the age of their 23. This is a phase and it is an incredibly damaging phase to
00:22:45.060
accidentally normalize because the, the drugs that are being given in terms of puberty blockers to
00:22:50.300
these kids are the exact same drugs often that the Christian extremists used to give to kids who
00:22:55.600
were same gender attracted. So it's the same group. Isn't that wild? Yeah. Just one form of castration.
00:23:00.900
I fought it. Then I fight it. No, you know, you, you don't, you don't mess with kids biology like
00:23:06.640
that, you know, especially if their parents aren't consenting to it, which is something we're
00:23:10.100
repeatedly seeing. Yeah. Well, it seems like what the most common format is, is this shows up in a
00:23:15.840
divorce or separation. Yeah. Where one parent affirms the kid and then they can use that to break
00:23:22.160
the kid off from the other parent. And they'll also plant these ideas in the kid and stuff like that.
00:23:26.860
And, you know, once you get the kid started on some of these drugs, they can't easily like go off.
00:23:31.020
Right. You know, it's basically a one way pass. As soon as that started, as soon as you sent them
00:23:35.560
to an affirming psychologist, it's over. And, and that's, what's really dangerous when you're
00:23:39.820
looking at a, you know, 50% on a live attempted rate within this community. And yet it turns out
00:23:45.020
that, you know, nine in 10 people, if you just didn't interfere, wouldn't end up in this community,
00:23:49.200
which is really scary. We've also talked about, and if you're talking about like the wider
00:23:55.300
research, when Travis Dock was being decommissioned, this was this major trans clinic,
00:24:00.120
they went through the data and it turned out that there was a study that showed that putting
00:24:05.900
young people on puberty blockers with increasing rates of self-harm and increasing rates of attempted
00:24:10.000
unaliving. And they had blocked this from publication. So they were hiding data showing
00:24:14.640
that what they were doing was making things worse. Not cool, guys.
00:24:18.100
And if you know that this is being done at the places where we can get access, like, or in the
00:24:22.480
WPAS files, where you get all these leaks where people are like, yeah, these kids have no idea
00:24:25.600
what they're consenting to. And lots of doctors are saying this in the WPAS files. We know from
00:24:29.940
Travis Dock, we know from the very beginning of the industry was the Joe Money experiments that
00:24:34.680
the data was withheld. He hid that it didn't actually work. That, you know, why, if it's happening at
00:24:41.260
the beginning and it's happening today and it's happening everywhere a place gets decommissioned or a
00:24:46.260
leak happens, shouldn't I assume that it's happening everywhere in between? Like, wouldn't that make
00:24:53.200
sense? When I, when I look at the lives of the people, because that's, that's one of the things
00:24:57.940
that I think is really interesting to do is dig into the lives of not the trans individuals today
00:25:04.440
who are, you know, really public and really famous and really in the public eye, like you're Dylan
00:25:08.800
Milvany's, but go on to things like we did in our episode, you know, the life of the Cenobite.
00:25:12.860
If you want to read it, we could go into this in more detail. We go into her personal journal,
00:25:17.220
like Anna Valen's personal blog, right? Like a, a successful, but not super successful individual
00:25:22.440
to understand once you get past the euphoria phase, you, you, which, which a lot of people
00:25:28.340
report, which of course the hormones that you're taking are causing it. I mean, these are happy drugs
00:25:32.620
for, for the early days that you take them, you know, this incredible burnout. And, and, and so when I
00:25:39.100
see that so persistently and, and an incredible dissatisfaction with life, I, all I can think
00:25:44.600
is, well, and I think about, as I always say, Anna Valen's is the core, you know, victim in,
00:25:53.100
in the Kirsha Anna Valen story. I say this, not a victim of, of, of, of Kirsha, but a victim
00:25:58.940
Well, the person who's really had their lives ruined the most.
00:26:02.960
Yeah. She, she's got no family now that she could otherwise have. She doesn't have a meaningful
00:26:06.920
job right now, which she otherwise could have had. And she dedicated her life to helping other
00:26:10.820
people. She doesn't have job security, which she could have, if she hadn't done that, she wouldn't
00:26:15.420
have, you know, she went into this community and she, she was horrified to learn that cis women
00:26:20.760
didn't want to sleep with her. And that the only people who sleep with trans women who don't have
00:26:23.820
bottom surgery are other trans women. And that the only place she could find an acceptance was within
00:26:28.340
online fetish communities. And that, you know, she thought because these people were affirming of
00:26:33.480
trans individuals that they actually saw them as women. And then she learned after engaging with
00:26:36.860
the community that this wasn't the case. And this is a very much like, this isn't on the tent. Like
00:26:41.260
when, when people transition, they think all these people that are affirming them and telling them
00:26:45.000
how great and brave they are, are also going to want to, you know, sleep with them. And they aren't,
00:26:50.060
they, they, they are just following the cultural norms of their environment. Right.
00:26:54.400
Well, this whole dynamic though, it makes me think, I feel like we see it across different domains
00:27:00.120
in a way that implies to me that this is just a naturally evolved thing in cultures or groups
00:27:08.100
that makes them overall stronger and more competitive. Businesses, for example, often
00:27:12.600
encourage you to fire your bad customers and just keep the power users. Like that 1% that like
00:27:17.920
accounts for 90% of your income or that 80, that 20% that accounts for 80. Right. And this is a way of
00:27:24.880
weeding out the ones who aren't really invested so that you can invest more in the ones who are super
00:27:30.800
invested. It also reminds me of gang initiation tactics where like you have to murder someone to
00:27:37.820
become a member. And by that point, you're so committed because you've, you've had to do so much
00:27:44.680
that is otherwise questionable to the average person that now you're super in. So I think these high
00:27:53.640
investment, you could call them shit tests are pervasive, like that this isn't some novel
00:28:01.400
thing or new dynamic that you are describing, which makes me think it's more plausible that that's
00:28:06.840
also what's going on because it really is otherwise intuitively quite strange that people who would
00:28:14.340
give a bad name to the movement who ultimately do so much PR damage, whether or not they mean well
00:28:21.600
or whatever, even if we just take all of that away, they do a lot of technical reputation.
00:28:27.320
Damage. Why are they there so consistently? And why is there so much defense of them so consistently?
00:28:33.760
Yeah. And another thing I note about this aggressor, I sort of call them like enforcer
00:28:37.440
priests or an enforcer class within the, the larger urban monoculture. And you see this in the way they
00:28:43.820
act, especially towards like lesbians, for example, who are dissenting is you regularly see them get
00:28:48.800
very aggressive. Like there's lots of videos about this. This is just sad. The guy was feeding the
00:28:53.660
homeless. Can you do something about the people are about to assault me? Can you wake the up and
00:29:00.240
use your eyes, please? Can I have the same liberty as ever? These are like the punch of turf people.
00:29:05.580
These are the people who, you know, the story that always stuck with me is this lesbian who,
00:29:10.020
you know, was on Reddit and, and in the lesbian community on Reddit. And she assumed that this was
00:29:15.260
mostly like cis women, not a bunch of trans women. Right. And one day, like a top upvoted piece
00:29:20.440
was one in which a, a lesbian had said, I don't want to sleep with you to a trans woman. And the
00:29:26.340
trans woman had apparently beaten her and this was filmed and it was upvoted. And all of the top
00:29:33.400
comments were praising the trans woman for doing this. And she was like, Oh my God, like one,
00:29:39.660
I didn't realize that like your average trans person was pro like physical violence against
00:29:46.020
a lesbian who had a preference for cis lesbians, but it appears that they are at least within the
00:29:53.280
community. She thought where she was gay, but now she's like, and now I don't feel safe going to gay
00:29:57.540
bars anymore. You know? And I hear this persistently across the lesbian community because they don't
00:30:01.740
know if they're going to be accosted. So if you have a view that is, that is antithetical to these
00:30:06.640
groups. So you're not going to capitulate to these individuals. They, they become very aggressive
00:30:10.980
on average. And it's, it's not all trans people here. No, I'm talking about a specific cast of
00:30:16.040
non-passing, very aggressive trans people where it's clearly not about seeing as some other gender.
00:30:22.760
Like, okay. If you were just born in the wrong gender body, right. And you cared about being seen
00:30:27.740
as the other gender and living your life. Why would you ever dress like Alec Vade Vimin? This is
00:30:32.540
clearly somebody who doesn't want to be seen as, as the other gender. They are somebody who
00:30:38.480
intentionally wants to dress in a way that, that causes the people they're interacting with to have
00:30:45.620
to suppress any sort of like, like reaction, right? Like they're, they're trying to get you to say
00:30:51.460
something and they're getting off on the fact that they know that you can't. There, there is no other
00:30:56.100
explanation for this because they're not presenting like a gender. When, when there is an individual who's
00:31:01.480
clearly not trying to pass, but also demanding that you, this is about violating other people's
00:31:06.300
consent and using cultural norms to do that. And I don't know why this isn't something that we talk
00:31:11.940
about more as a society. A portion of the trans movement has become dedicated to the violation of
00:31:17.840
other individuals consent as a fetish. And people who had that fetish have taken this trans identity
00:31:23.120
and are using it. And can you imagine nobody is this hurting more than if they exist. And you can look
00:31:29.400
at our videos on this, like comparing this to anorexia and maybe it's a culture around illness,
00:31:33.720
but even if it is like anorexia and a culture around illness, the people who have it really
00:31:36.820
believe they have it. Real trans people, nobody is hurt more by this. No one is hurt more by an
00:31:42.120
Alex Bademan or a Leah Thomas than somebody who's just trying to live their effing life.
00:31:48.740
And, and can you imagine the horror if you opted into this community, when you believed that the
00:31:53.620
community was what it said on the 10, like if you look at the early people who pushed the movement,
00:31:56.920
you know, your Buck Angels or your Caitlyn Jenners, you know, the movement has completely turned on
00:32:01.220
them because now it's only, and that's the other thing. And I think one of the reasons why
00:32:04.920
the urban monocultural sort of enforcement mechanism works so well is, is it built a system
00:32:09.540
where anybody who challenged this was immediately dissociated. You know, what, what does Buck Angel
00:32:15.340
sin? Buck Angel says you shouldn't transition underage people. That is why they were expelled from the
00:32:20.700
movement. You know, Caitlyn Jenner, I think Matt said something similar or supported Trump. I don't
00:32:25.700
remember, but whatever, they had a thought crime. Now you can't talk. Did not show complete
00:32:30.160
compliance with the political line. Yeah. And this is, this is why lesbians should all vote
00:32:37.720
Republican. So they, well, I mean, I pointed out from the perspective of a lesbian. And it's one of
00:32:42.680
the things that I hadn't really thought about as a guy. When I think about like the physical differences
00:32:45.900
between men and women, if you guys know like Warhammer, there's like space worries. There's these guys
00:32:49.920
who are like 10 feet tall or whatever. Imagine if one of them like came up to you in a space where
00:32:55.720
you previously felt safe and started like pushing you around because that is what somebody who's born
00:33:00.960
in a male body often feels like to a cis lesbian. You know, they're often significantly larger than
00:33:06.260
them. They have significantly more muscle mass than them and, and starts pushing them around and being
00:33:10.560
like, Hey, like, you know, suck my girl D right. Like, or I'm going to beat you up or I'm going to,
00:33:16.640
you know, get you expelled from this bar so you can never come back. Have your friends never talk
00:33:20.480
to you again. I'm going to constantly call up your work and try to get you fired, which is a behavior
00:33:24.260
we constantly see from this community. You're going to feel very, very threatened. Like the degree of
00:33:30.360
one of the things that I persistently see when I watch, you know, trans people videos online
00:33:35.000
is they're just mortified people who go on a date with them and then, you know, get angry or don't
00:33:42.160
want to sleep with them because the person didn't tell them they were trans. They're like, well,
00:33:45.660
you know, why should it matter to them? Well, I mean, it's their choice, whether it matters to them.
00:33:49.640
What do you mean? Why should it matter to them? They get to choose what turns them on and what
00:33:54.440
doesn't turn them on. You don't get to force yourself on them. And it's like, oh yeah, I forgot
00:33:58.020
the whole violation of consent kink has become normalized. And again, I'm not saying that this
00:34:03.480
is like something I am projecting onto the community. This is something Anna Valens, you know,
00:34:07.820
has repeatedly talked about, oh, how wouldn't it be great? Like the, the world that we are fighting
00:34:12.840
for is one in which cis women are tied up and, and, and forcibly bred by trans women until, you
00:34:19.600
know, we're, we're going to destroy their peace so much that you're just going to have to trade
00:34:23.160
them out for other women. It's like, she goes on for quite a while with this explanation. And I was
00:34:29.940
like, this is not, this is, this is, it, you can't just say this as a joke, which is what they tried
00:34:37.300
to say afterwards. You can't just say, oh, this is clearly meant for, for erotic purposes.
00:34:44.200
And I say that because I have to my chagrin to try to better understand this individual
00:34:49.320
read their erotic literature. They post to erotic sites and it is the same things being talked about
00:34:56.460
within post spheres. They're just trying to force other people to engage with this without their
00:35:00.920
consent, um, which is not okay, but for whatever reason, they think this is normal.
00:35:05.360
I think your theory is compelling. It's just so, it's so wild. And it, it, it sucks because
00:35:16.060
absolutely nobody wins from this. Yeah. Yeah. At least, you know, in, in some scenarios, I'm like,
00:35:21.680
well, at least, you know, this group profits, this group benefits, but here the antigen detector
00:35:28.420
people who, the people who take those roles really don't know their lives become horrible nightmares.
00:35:34.760
See our, like, cinabite episode. And obviously the people who are tested by them and put in these
00:35:42.960
very uncomfortable positions, they certainly don't win. They're put in terrible positions,
00:35:47.320
whether they're expelled from the community or whether they're put, you know, sort of forced
00:35:53.540
into saying and doing things that make them deeply uncomfortable. And then, you know, the rest of the
00:35:59.220
community doesn't really benefit either because it's not like their rights are being promoted.
00:36:03.140
Like what, what ends up happening is the rights of the antigen individuals get promoted, which don't
00:36:10.440
help anyone else in the community. And then those antigen people don't even, they're not even happy
00:36:15.320
because what they want is, is insatiable and also impossible.
00:36:21.500
Well, and it just doesn't provide a good life. A constant search for self-affirmation and pleasure
00:36:26.440
leads to a terrible life. Like that is, that is not the way humans are constructed.
00:36:36.900
It feels good for a bit as, as you see in Anna Valen's writings and then life loses all purpose
00:36:42.360
and they become a himiko mori that just yells at people on the internet and tries to get people
00:36:46.340
fired all day because they can only feel like hints of happiness from the destruction of other
00:36:52.620
people's lives that, that, that validates their choices because it makes them feel like they're
00:36:57.440
on the good guy's side. I mean, of course they're on the good guy's side. Their actions are
00:37:00.460
definitionally good. It couldn't be that they made a terrible mistake and are driving and, and,
00:37:07.840
and, and, and trying to convince other young people to make the same mistake.
00:37:10.520
Like, and as we saw with Anna Valen's, she is, she has talked a lot about targeting, you
00:37:18.060
know, with Gen Z, it was just like 13 to 19 or like 13 to 21. She's like, that's the primary
00:37:23.580
age range I date these days. And this is someone in their thirties.
00:37:26.340
Oh, right. Yeah. Like I just realized these are the ones that.
00:37:30.100
And it's like, well, this is also good from a conversion perspective because you are psychologically
00:37:34.160
destroying these individuals and, and, and helping spread, you know, this memetic sort of
00:37:39.700
plague, but like all the rest of us understand that like consent's really murky when you're
00:37:47.880
I don't know. I mean, we just recorded an episode on marriages to individuals who are
00:37:55.580
quite young. Um, and I don't know, like at this point I'm like, oh, what? Like, you know,
00:38:01.300
18, 19, 20, this is great. Wow. This is so much better than what some other cultures are
00:38:08.980
looking at. Yeah. The nine. Yeah. That's, this is great. They're fine. I'll take it. Go
00:38:14.640
ahead. Yes. So I really don't know anymore. I've, I've just, I'm so lost. I just, I just
00:38:20.440
want to hide in our beautiful little farmhouse.
00:38:23.940
So we create, well, that's it and just make a beautiful world and make a beautiful future
00:38:30.440
and hope that we outpace and outcompete and outnumber eventually these, these other groups
00:38:43.280
Yeah. Well, like comment and subscribe, I guess. Check out, if you like to learn educational
00:38:48.720
systems that won't brainwash your skids, check out paresia.io or the Collins Institute, which
00:38:53.600
will link to that. Oh yeah. And plugs for other people. One of the followers of this podcast
00:38:58.180
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00:39:05.620
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00:39:12.240
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00:39:18.840
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00:39:23.220
in this group, as, as they've been described to me, just so cool. And, and what the organizer
00:39:27.180
is working on as well. Malcolm, she's also working on some hardware.
00:39:30.160
What's that pro natalist AI that's like Christian and stuff for kids. The, the guy shared with
00:39:35.540
us, it's called like a Virgil. Yeah, that might be it. I can also post a link to that one.
00:39:41.180
Yeah. So there's, there's a lot of cool stuff that our, our listeners are up to. You're part
00:39:45.560
of a great community. Malcolm leaves the link for the discord in the comments on most of our
00:39:50.240
videos. So if you want to hang out with base campers more, check out the comments.
00:39:55.080
Yeah. It's a community of sane people from diverse backgrounds, actually diverse backgrounds.
00:39:59.800
You know, you, we, we've got our, our, our, our D transitioners. We've got our, you know,
00:40:05.000
Catholic Roman mass types. We've got our Orthodox Jews. We got our atheists, but our annoyed was
00:40:11.660
the urban monoculture types. Yeah. We got a, we got a smattering of everyone.
00:40:15.580
You're in good company here. All right. Love you today, Simone. I love you too, Malcolm.
00:40:22.700
I'm going to go down and take my chances. Cutting the, the ingredients so I can show you how,
00:40:29.900
like, make sure you don't misunderstand in terms of how thin it should be.
00:40:35.020
Then in an ideal world, come down in 10 minutes before the kids are here. Okay. Okay. I'll do that.
00:40:43.780
your sushi tonight, I was just thinking about it. I think one thing, if you're open to it
00:40:50.000
is, you know how, like with a lot of traditional sushi recipes, you're just supposed to make like
00:40:54.480
little sticks that you put into the roll. What if I just made instead fine confetti? Because one of
00:41:01.620
Yeah. Is it like you try to cut the sushi pieces, but then like, it's kind of like when you eat a hot
00:41:07.200
dog and you like take a bite and like the hot dog just comes out of the bun and you're like, come on,
00:41:11.600
this is, this is ridiculous. You know, you should probably try that with one and try it was out with
00:41:17.440
another. So like make two rolls and one with- I think when you actually put in the right amount of
00:41:22.740
ingredients, it's going to be much easier to cut. Yeah. We'll see. I mean, it's supposed to be
00:41:29.040
thin, thin strips, not big honkies. Yeah. But then there's still, it's, it's like
00:41:34.760
cutting a sausage with floss inside. Like the string just goes with it, even when it's fine.
00:41:40.540
Okay. Try cutting it up then. If you think it's going to be easier, try cutting it up. I mean,
00:41:43.860
it's the flavor is not going to be different. The question is, is will it stay together?
00:41:47.320
I think it's way more likely to stay together if I make it into confetti.
00:41:51.080
Okay. If we're, if we're not going to follow the rules, I'm, I want to do it the way that I think
00:41:54.700
will actually work instead of the way that apparently people follow the rules. It doesn't
00:42:00.300
work. Yeah. And this is the point to figure out how to make better sushi. Okay. Well then let's try
00:42:06.320
that. That's right. Oh yeah. Question. Comments. How were they on today's video? Oh good. Yeah.
00:42:12.420
Just a lot of people expressing their dismay and sadness and Elon was being at the, at the conflict,
00:42:18.640
but then also being like, Hey, Elon's in, in a difficult position. And then people being
00:42:25.000
like, Oh, Elon's already Trump tweeting again. Don't worry. We're back to normal. Nothing
00:42:31.120
ever happened, which I don't think we're quite back to normal yet, but you know, I look, look,
00:42:36.640
they've like hated, they've, they've traded, they've sparred online before, like in a pretty,
00:42:43.780
you know, I would say pretty serious way. It's not like they're going to not be able to
00:42:48.580
come back from this. So I would say the mood is overall cautiously optimistic.
00:42:55.060
All right. I mean, I think people are glad that we're sort of seen as the figureheads of the
00:43:00.540
trans movement and probably not him for the trans movement, the trans movement, the pronatalist
00:43:06.680
movement. Sorry. Cause we're doing trans in this episode. No, your heads here. It's, it's, it's,
00:43:12.800
you know, you don't have to worry about us going off crazy. We're, we're predictably crazy.
00:43:17.620
The crazy things we're going to say, I think are fairly predictable. I don't think that often we
00:43:21.980
get a take and somebody who's like, I did not expect you guys to, you know, I said, you guys
00:43:26.240
were great. I didn't expect you to do this except for the people who didn't at all believe that we
00:43:29.960
were going to go. Right. And when we told them we were going to, they're like, no, you won't really,
00:43:34.720
or that we were going to start a religion. They're like, no, you're not really going to do that.
00:43:39.540
And they're like, wow, you really like did that, did that. All right.