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00:00:00.000 like they've done big meta studies on this persistently. Homeschooled kids are better

00:00:04.400 socialized. They're better leaders. They're like better in pretty much every category.

00:00:08.740 And people are like, yeah, but I remember I've engaged with homeschooled kids and they have

00:00:13.700 no social skills. And I'm like, okay, try to bring them back to your memory. Do you remember

00:00:19.920 why you thought they had no social skills? Was it that they were unusually well-mannered?

00:00:25.360 Was it that they didn't engage in petty social politicking? Was it that they didn't randomly

00:00:31.600 get mad at people who picked on them? Is it that maybe they were socialized by adults instead of

00:00:39.380 children? Hey kid, get out of that hamster ball. Oh, I promised my father I wouldn't. Oh boy,

00:00:43.780 you best do what he says at homeschool kid. Well, this is our part of the playground. See,

00:00:47.540 we're going to duct tape you to the bench. You mean you would actually duct tape my entire body

00:00:50.600 to a bench? For what purpose? Okay, there we go. Have a nice second half of the day,

00:00:56.220 nerdo. Yeah, well, you shouldn't be such a smart mouth Mr. Know-it-all. Oh dear. Enjoy your lunch,

00:01:02.580 nerdo? Ah, sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never harm me. Oh dude,

00:01:06.940 you don't say that. About the only homeschool kids I've seen that have persistent problems

00:01:11.620 are the ones from very religious backgrounds where it included denying them access to either

00:01:19.340 common media or denying them the right to date and stuff. Mother Noah, it's a scary world out

00:01:25.960 there. Something will go wrong, I swear. Ruffians. Thugs. Poison. Also large bugs. Men with pointy 0.99

00:01:33.800 teeth. And then they become like sex freaks. 0.99

00:01:36.320 In canon, they have never met. I don't care. I ship it. I don't care. 0.96

00:01:47.060 I know that they are siblings, but I think there's something more. If she were dating that guy,

00:01:52.740 they'd be banging, I'm sure. Would you like to know more? Okay, y'all, 60 episode. Hello,

00:01:58.840 Smoad. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to have an interesting conversation.

00:02:02.620 It is going to be about education because I was having a conversation recently where I realized

00:02:09.640 how incorrectly a lot of Americans think about education because they confuse the actual choices

00:02:18.440 they have around educating their children. And I would say that all of the choices that we make

00:02:24.920 around educating our children should be categorized into three buckets. And you should not confuse these

00:02:31.940 buckets. They're almost totally interchangeable with each other. And Simone is going to hate the 1.00

00:02:36.980 names of one of these buckets. So we'll let her choose a different name. The first bucket is

00:02:43.360 location. The second bucket is medium, but Simone also likes to call it method. So method,

00:02:51.540 I'll say. And the third bucket is curriculum. So let me explain how people make mistakes around

00:02:59.780 the three buckets. So I may make a complaint and I may say something as a parent, like,

00:03:07.420 isn't it wild that we just sit our kids in a room with what is to them an arbitrary authority figure

00:03:13.880 telling them what's true and what's false and that they are just expected to memorize these things and

00:03:20.280 then, you know, write them down at the end of like, like, oh yeah, I just trust the authority figure.

00:03:25.160 That's a good way to relate to information. And then some parents will be like, and they'll see

00:03:30.320 our, you know, online, what is a form of a platform. And they'll be like, well, that's too tech for me.

00:03:37.220 So like, well, I like your high tech stuff. I take my kids to a woods school.

00:03:42.560 Right. They do outdoor schooling.

00:03:44.340 A woods school. And I'm like, well, that, I mean, they can take a tablet to the woods,

00:03:49.680 you know, like, wait, who's, who's teaching them in the woods? And they're like, well,

00:03:54.540 it's a, you know, it's basically a normal school in the woods. It's like an arbitrary

00:03:58.200 authority figure telling them what's right and wrong. Yeah. But now they're in the woods. So

00:04:02.480 yeah, that's what I thought. See that you've got a drum circle in your backyard.

00:04:11.220 Oh, well they showed up a few days ago, but I didn't think they were hurting anything.

00:04:15.400 Yeah. You know, I had a guy in Jackson County. He had a little drum circle in his backyard,

00:04:18.660 turned into a drum circle four miles in diameter. You get a few hippies playing drums.

00:04:22.320 And the next thing you know, you got yourself a colony. Oh dear.

00:04:25.160 So, so it's good to understand that changing the location where the education is happening

00:04:31.640 doesn't change either the method or the curriculum. And when you are thinking about things like

00:04:40.340 the method slash the medium, as I call it of education, it is very, very important

00:04:47.680 that you not get confused by the aesthetics of the geography. So an example here is let's go back

00:04:57.020 to granola mom, right? So we just had the previous conversation. They're called crunchy moms,

00:05:01.900 crunchy moms, whatever. She goes, Oh no, it's okay. You see, that's not the method that we're using.

00:05:08.520 Uh, my child, like the teacher acts more like his friend. And I hear this and I go, that sounds

00:05:16.680 infinitely worse than the previous thing you just told me. It does. You, you are telling me in the

00:05:21.960 first, that's a much better way of the child. If the teacher has like creepy ideas that they want

00:05:26.240 to incept your child with or world perspectives, it's going to be much easier if they've taken on

00:05:30.900 this interpersonal relation with the child. This is a cult leader now. Oh good. So we've gone from

00:05:36.440 arbitrary authoritarian leader who you might hate and whose ideas you might question to a cult leader

00:05:42.420 whose ideas you will certainly not question because they've loved you. Yes. And, and we're,

00:05:47.620 and worse. And I've seen teachers like this when the kids don't love them, they're not that happy

00:05:51.200 with the kid. It's very cult leader vibes. But then the question is, is like, also like,

00:05:55.440 what are you filtering for? Like, what kind of person is like, I want to be friends with a bunch

00:06:01.080 of like middle schoolers or toddlers. And I want that to be like, some, some heavy filters have

00:06:08.520 been applied by the time you've gotten to that point. And then if they're in the woods with your

00:06:11.820 kid, this is the sub faction that said, I want to not be near other adults. And for whatever reason,

00:06:19.240 I couldn't get a job in the local public school. Are you really sure that this is what you want?

00:06:25.300 I would remind you that in the United States, one in 10 kids, I think it's over one in 10 kids

00:06:31.620 have experienced SA by a teacher. So, you know, and these are typically public or private school

00:06:38.260 teachers who have had criminal background checks and a lot of other vetting. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So

00:06:43.800 don't maybe send your kids into the woods with somebody like have a little do so with your eyes

00:06:51.400 wide open if you need to, if you must. Oh yeah. Well, so then they're like, no, I'll send my kids

00:06:58.160 into the woods with a book. Okay. I'm like, you know, teacher, just a book. You, do you know how

00:07:04.580 quickly CPS is going to be called on you? Like, I love it when parents like have these fantasies that

00:07:09.160 it's clear that they've never actually sent their kids out of the house. 37% of American kids have had

00:07:14.360 CPS called on them. We've had CPS called on us twice. I was in a podcast with another woman who

00:07:18.360 asked me this question and I was like, because you'll have CPS called on you immediately. And

00:07:22.720 she, and she thought for a second, she goes, oh yeah, actually once I let my kids play outside and

00:07:27.700 within two hours, the cops were at our house. Oh, what? Oh God. Yeah. Okay. Cause this isn't the

00:07:35.220 world of our parents' generation. You know, we're under the authoritarian regime. So let's begin to

00:07:41.780 break out and delineate all of the different methods and curriculum and environments that kids

00:07:49.240 can learn within. Yes. So, and the potential benefits of each, right? So if I'm going to talk

00:07:56.260 about methods, the core ones are teacher who tells kids what's true and what's false, right? Like the

00:08:03.160 authoritarian model, I guess I'll call it. Second one is friendly model and the friendly model comes in a

00:08:09.040 number of varieties, but friendly model. The third one is reactive model. This is a teacher who is

00:08:15.040 only there for questions. Oh, the Mrs. Frizzle. No, not Mrs. Frizzle. She's a insane. Mrs. Frizzle's 1.00

00:08:23.200 always almost getting her class killed. Is it just me or is that a real life Tyrannosaurus rex behind

00:08:30.920 them? Correctosaurus, Ralphie. And the T-Rex was the biggest meat eater of all time. I don't know

00:08:37.160 what you're talking about. No, I think she's a great model of a teacher because she's the kind 0.95

00:08:40.780 of teacher who puts students in a situation and presents them with problems and says. Or they

00:08:45.560 could die. Well, okay. That's the fantasy part of it. But when you look at the practical element. 0.99

00:08:50.260 Where they experience body horror. If I may. Where they get jizzed on by a fish while she is singing a

00:08:57.320 song and dancing in a big device that has human lips. It's looking at the kids who have been trapped in

00:09:04.200 fish eggs. This is a horror among the horrors, Simone, where the kids say, I guess this is our home

00:09:10.840 now. Or we're going to be fertilized. Whoa. Holy mackerel. The bus just laid eggs and we're in them.

00:09:21.320 Look at it this way, Ralphie. As soon as we hatch, this will be home.

00:09:28.440 A salmony winter courtin' he did swim. Salmony winter courtin'. There's your answer, Carlos.

00:09:35.480 What? Is he some sort of car wash? No. Don't eggs have to be fertilized and we're going to be the

00:09:42.680 next generation of salmon? Get ready to dig in, Liv. Hey! The bus is burying us alive! 0.86

00:09:51.000 Cutting an egg? Okay. Getting fertilized? Okay. Getting buried in an egg? Not okay. Class?

00:09:58.600 Let's see if hatching's all it's cracked up to be. Wow! I'm hungry! My yolk sac's history! Let's find food!

00:10:17.560 What?! When you take away the fantasy sci-fi element of it, she is the kind of teacher who presents students

00:10:24.440 with problems and questions and then encourages them to find for themselves the truth. And I think

00:10:30.440 that's a method and I quite like that method in the end. I think it's a great method because

00:10:37.320 she's not their friend. She's not an authority figure. She doesn't answer their questions. She 1.00

00:10:42.280 encourages them to find their own answers. No, but the truth is, is this method that you're

00:10:46.600 describing right here is a fantasy method that many parents believe? No, it's true. So I actually know

00:10:52.600 the method that you're talking about. A lot of ultra-rich parents believe that it's the way

00:10:56.520 their kids are being educated. Oh, yeah, but no one actually has the time to do that.

00:10:59.960 Nobody actually has the time to implement this. No, no. We kind of do at home. Trust me,

00:11:04.920 I know people who have started schools that were meant to use this method and were at least half

00:11:11.640 billionaires and their own school ended up going insane. Like, it just doesn't work. It is a fantasy.

00:11:20.760 Why does it not work? Because either, there's two problems. One is it's completely non-scalable,

00:11:28.280 okay? Completely non-scalable, especially post-middle school where kids begin to,

00:11:33.960 you know, develop more autonomy. And then when you actually say, okay, I understand it's

00:11:40.680 on-scalable, but let's have like three kids in a classroom or two kids in a classroom,

00:11:44.520 the teachers just give up after six months and go back to some other form of education

00:11:48.760 or become completely passive. Is that because you need students to be so involved to find

00:11:54.920 their own answers and they typically don't have that kind of initiative? Yes. Yeah, like with our

00:11:59.640 son Octavian, our biggest problem with him, and I was just having a parent-teacher conference about this,

00:12:04.280 is if you ask him, you know, like, what's this? He's always like, you tell me. Like, I don't care.

00:12:10.520 He just doesn't care. I mean, our other son is very different in that he is actively finding

00:12:16.520 things out on his own and insisting on telling us. I want to tell you something he keeps saying,

00:12:20.920 but yeah, you're right. Most students, it doesn't work for. Back to the real education model. Yeah.

00:12:24.760 Passive education model. Okay. Okay. Passive education model is I have given my kid a form

00:12:30.120 of curriculum that has them regularly run into problems. And typically there is an authority

00:12:34.520 figure around that they can communicate with. So the passive medium typically works alongside

00:12:40.040 one of the other mediums. So then the last- So if you get stuck, you go to the teacher,

00:12:44.840 right? They're like a tutor who's available on demand to help you organize. Yeah, an on-demand

00:12:48.360 tutor. Yeah. Often a parent or something like that. Yeah. And then the last two mediums are books and

00:12:54.200 internet. So those are of the realistic mediums that actually work instead of fantasy medium.

00:13:01.400 You have authoritarian, friend, passive, book, computer. And basically these are the- Oh,

00:13:08.680 one new one I'd say, AI. And the AI, I generally think is a better passive medium,

00:13:16.120 unless the passive medium is the parent, just because it's typically going to be one much more

00:13:20.840 on demand and the child is actually learning as they're engaging. Yeah, more informed, more patient.

00:13:26.280 No, but they're also learning how to use an AI and how to source questions with AI as questions

00:13:35.000 come to them. So as an adult, when they might not have some arbitrary authority they can turn to,

00:13:41.320 they know, oh, this is the AI I use for these types of questions. And they build habits around

00:13:45.880 that, that are effective at coming to true answers. So these are the various methods of

00:13:52.440 communicating information to the kids. Obviously our school, the Collins Institute, Parasia,

00:13:57.000 you can check it out, collinsinstitute.org. It's free. Right now it's mostly in the development

00:14:01.320 stage. We have a bunch of editors. We have like a huge team of editors that are going through it.

00:14:05.640 We have a number of them that are paid to just basically work on it all day, every day,

00:14:09.400 removing anything that's wrong. Because a lot of the initial content was developed with AI,

00:14:13.160 so it's got some mistakes. And so we're basically cleaning all that up while also getting right now help

00:14:19.560 from anybody who's interested and people are like, oh, so it's not ready for kids. No, it is ready

00:14:22.920 for kids. Just part of the way the kids are going to learn is identifying wrong answers and questions

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00:15:24.280 Yes. So now to the environments. The environments are really, I'd say primarily two, but maybe you can

00:15:34.440 get more or three and maybe you can get more. You've got your home. Okay.

00:15:40.520 Okay. You've got a school and you've got everything else. By that, what I mean is that can be the woods,

00:15:48.440 that could be a city, that could be one of our kids could, you know, with the Parisia platform,

00:15:53.880 get a tablet and hop on our little floating watercraft and spend the day on the lake right

00:15:59.720 outside the house. Well, don't you think now among very wealthy families, the concept of world

00:16:12.760 schooling got trendy around 10 years ago and has held steady. World schooling. Yeah. Basically,

00:16:20.040 you know, wealthy family travels around the world, does their world tour, brings their kids with them

00:16:24.680 because they want to spend time with their kids and their kids just do a homeschooling program

00:16:29.000 while on the road, but also while going to museums in Florence and, you know, meeting with

00:16:35.160 families in Egypt. The question here is, what are the advantages and disadvantages of these various

00:16:40.440 models? I find it interesting how many people think like nature is like, I don't know, like

00:16:45.160 sink an educational process. Like we can have an authoritarian teacher, we can have a kid learning

00:16:49.720 online. It's going to be totally different if they're floating on a river. And it's like, well,

00:16:53.320 maybe, I mean, if that's what the kid wants, but I'm sure they'll find some efficiency drop in doing

00:16:57.320 that eventually, you know, but sure, whatever, you know, that's what you want to do. They can sit

00:17:02.840 on that with their little tablet and go down lazy river style while studying if they wanted to. But

00:17:08.520 the question is, are they going to learn more efficiently in that environment? Definitely not.

00:17:13.080 No. So there's a principle in psychology. The term I was looking for was context-dependent

00:17:21.160 memory or state-dependent memory. If the learning environment is similar to the recall environment,

00:17:27.560 you'll be about 20% better at recall. So an example of this is if you study for a test in

00:17:33.480 the room, you take the test, you will do about like 20% better or something. And it's also like

00:17:37.480 if you study in a radically different environment, like on an airplane or on a boat or in the woods,

00:17:43.000 and then you are testing in a test room, like an ACT test room, you have,

00:17:47.880 you know, like shot yourself in the leg before running a marathon. It's an intentionally like

00:17:53.160 stupid thing to do outside of the just health benefits of being in nature. But at that point, 0.98

00:17:58.040 it's like, well, I mean, couldn't the kids just go on a couple hour walk every day? Like we live by

00:18:02.360 the woods. I don't know. Like the hacks that I used when I was a student to get around that when

00:18:09.800 I was concerned about it was I would wear the same perfume on test day as I did on study days.

00:18:15.000 It helped. I felt it helped, but maybe it was all placebo effect.

00:18:18.600 So, you know, world schooling. So I think this idea that if you put a kid in an environment like

00:18:23.160 that, they're not going to build social ties. This whole thing about, oh, if I homeschool my kids,

00:18:28.520 they won't be socially well-adjusted is the biggest myth. It's yeah, they, your, your child

00:18:34.200 is going to be worse socially adjusted and have worse habits and pick up worse things

00:18:39.080 if they hang out at a school environment, period, period. If they're hanging out around adults.

00:18:44.600 This weird Lord of the fly scenario. And it's, it was one of these things like they've done big

00:18:49.000 meta studies on this persistently homeschooled kids. I'm better socialized. They're better leaders.

00:18:54.600 They're like better in pretty much every category. And the, and the question is, is people are like,

00:19:00.600 yeah, but I remember I've engaged with homeschool kids and they have no social skills. And I'm like,

00:19:06.200 okay, I want you to meditate on those engagements. Try to bring them back to your memory. Do you

00:19:12.920 remember why you thought they had no social skills? Was it that they were unusually well-mannered?

00:19:19.240 Was it that they didn't engage in petty social politicking? Was it that they didn't randomly

00:19:25.160 get mad at people who picked on them? Is it that maybe they were socialized by adults instead of

00:19:32.840 children and you in child world were confused because you ran into somebody who wasn't socialized

00:19:40.920 in child world and didn't understand that it was you who was poorly socialized?

00:19:46.920 Hey kid, get out of that hamster ball. Oh, I promised my father I wouldn't.

00:19:49.880 Oh boy. You best do what he says, a homeschool kid. Well, this is our part of the playground.

00:19:54.040 See, we're going to duct tape you to the bench. You mean you would actually duct tape my entire

00:19:57.160 body to a bench? For what purpose?

00:19:58.680 Have a nice second half of the day, nerdo. Yeah, well, you shouldn't be such a smart-mouth

00:20:05.560 Mr. Know-it-all. Oh dear. Enjoy your lunch, nerdo? Ah, sticks and stones may break my bones,

00:20:11.960 but words will never harm me. Oh dude, you don't say that.

00:20:14.600 And this is something I've persistently seen when people are talking about, you know, homeschool kids.

00:20:19.000 About the only homeschool kids I've seen that have any sort of persistent problems are the ones from

00:20:24.520 very religious backgrounds where it included denying them access to either common media

00:20:32.200 that everyone else would have access to. So in the modern age, this would be something like denying

00:20:36.040 them Facebook and stuff like that, or denying them the right to date and stuff. And then they become

00:20:41.720 like sex freaks. Mother knows best. It's a scary world out there. Something will go wrong, I swear. 1.00

00:20:50.040 Prophens, thugs, poison. Also large bugs. Men with pointy teeth. Mother will protect you. Darling, 0.66

00:20:56.840 here's what I suggest. And like, everybody knows, like it's one of these things why I'm always like

00:21:01.720 when somebody's like, well, I'm going to be like super sexually restrictive of my kid and tell them all

00:21:05.560 this stuff is terrible and tell them. And I'm like, did, but you do know that like

00:21:12.840 everyone that happens to becomes like a super slut, right? Like I will say as a very sexually 1.00

00:21:18.200 active guy in high school, like that was a very easy crowd to target. They were some of the easiest

00:21:25.800 people, the people who had the ultra protective parents. And I don't know like how parents was all

00:21:30.920 the stereotypes. I'm gonna put the south fart clip of homeschool girl here. Hey, isn't that the homeschool 0.99

00:21:35.080 kid's sister? Hi, guys. Holy cow. Hey, baby, come see me later, k? What the damn, baby? Hey, Kyle,

00:21:45.480 wanna go make out? Rebecca, you. Rebecca, what the devil are you doing? I'm having fun, Mark.

00:21:52.200 You did this to my sister. You made my sister into a slut. I'll kill you. 1.00

00:21:55.560 Ah! But he's kicking the crap out of Kyle. Yeah, he's a badass. I'm not through with you, 1.00

00:22:01.880 bitch. Hey, you're pretty cool, Mark. Yeah, that was real badass how you stood up for your sister. 1.00

00:22:06.600 I had to kick Kyle's bitch ass too. You want to go have some cake with me, Mark? He said he'd hang 1.00

00:22:10.680 out with me. Like, how do they not... I guess it's because they don't watch the media or interact or

00:22:17.000 weren't, you know, like, they don't understand the vulnerabilities they're instilling in the kids

00:22:21.960 through doing that, which was, yeah, very, very interesting. Mother knows best. Take it from your

00:22:28.200 mumsy. Sloppy, immature, clumsy. Collable, naive. Positively crappy. I love it so much when I'm 1.00

00:22:35.080 talking to one of these parents and they're like, oh, yeah, but my kid actually really obeys the rules

00:22:40.280 and, you know, she's super sweet and she would never, you know, break any of the rules. And I'm like,

00:22:45.480 what? Do you think the girls I was sleeping with who had protective parents told their parents?

00:22:51.560 Are you out of your mind? No, of course that's what you'd think if they were sleeping around.

00:22:57.240 Oh my gosh. For individuals wondering about the functional mechanism that makes sheltered

00:23:02.840 girls so much easier than non-sheltered girls, it's that once you have gotten a shelter girl to kiss you,

00:23:11.640 from that point to PIV intercourse is, there's very few barriers. Because for them, the core barrier

00:23:20.200 is the hard line in the sand that the parents have set for them. Whereas with non-sheltered

00:23:25.880 individuals, they have an escalating barrier based on the seriousness of the intimate act they are

00:23:32.600 engaging with. So with the sheltered kids, really all you're doing is slightly increasing the difficulty

00:23:38.920 of getting the first kiss. But everything after that is dramatically, dramatically easier.

00:23:44.600 And it's just a really bad idea. The, God, what was another one?

00:23:51.000 Different categories. Oh yes. Yeah. So the world school kids typically, because I've met a number

00:23:55.720 of them, they end up like super well-adjusted, super well-adjusted, unusually well-adjusted.

00:24:01.800 This is also true for military brats.

00:24:03.400 Well, and I would even, I would say even those raised in cults often turn out a little more

00:24:08.760 well-adjusted. The people we've met who came from even extreme cults, we're talking

00:24:13.880 polygamous cults in the jungles of South America. And I'm not changing any details there. 0.66

00:24:21.240 Very well-adjusted, very normal, cool people. So yeah. Yeah. That guy was exceptionally well-adjusted.

00:24:27.720 It was a cult where they kick out all the young men because the one guy is married to all of the

00:24:33.000 women. Yeah. So this guy had six brothers and they, they were all throughout the United States

00:24:39.080 because they'd all been kicked out of the family and they all kind of helped each other after they

00:24:42.040 got kicked out, which is kind of interesting model. Really cool. Yeah. They've apparently,

00:24:46.440 they were all pretty successful. They were very successful. Yeah. Yeah. Which is interesting.

00:24:50.840 It's like, well, I mean, I guess the dad has like really good genes. Like that's.

00:24:55.400 Well, and I think there's something to be said for forcing enough. Well, yes, forcing,

00:25:01.640 but also allowing people to grow up. We do infantilize people egregiously, even adults in

00:25:07.480 the United States these days, just culturally and pervasively, and even, even systemically and

00:25:12.040 governmentally, we infantilize people across all means. So a cult that artificially kind of removes

00:25:18.600 you from mainstream society and forces you to become an adult is going to give you a distinctive

00:25:23.960 advantage. Well, I mean, that sort of forcing is very useful, but then you're not going to stay

00:25:27.080 within your birth culture. But one that is, is, is really dangerous that I see a lot of people

00:25:32.200 defaulting more towards is sheltering. Well, two types of sheltering that are both very damaging to

00:25:38.840 kids. The first and why it's a terrible idea is more obvious, which is sheltering from social media.

00:25:45.720 If you do not teach your child to do just actually engage with social media, you are hurting them in

00:25:53.320 two core ways. One, they're going to get a social media account when they get out from under your

00:25:58.280 thumb and they're going to do dumb stuff with it. That will be on the internet forever at an age where

00:26:03.960 they're going to be held responsible for that stuff. Do not like I it's, it's, it's, it's the same thing as

00:26:12.120 like telling a kid they can't date. Like, of course you're going to get the, the freak scenario after

00:26:17.640 that. It reminds me of earlier today, I was actually thinking about like what cultural group,

00:26:22.200 because I've slept with women from many cultural groups are typically the best in bed. And when I 1.00

00:26:26.920 was thinking, I was like, I hate, it's gotta be Catholic girls. They just have a lot more experience 1.00

00:26:32.200 than any other cultural subgroup I'm familiar with.

00:26:34.760 And, and it's partially because of this protective mindset, right? Like, oh, we'll protect them

00:26:57.160 from learning how to date judiciously or anything like that. Right. Or learning how to deal with

00:27:03.240 social media judiciously. Uh, so I think that's one problem, but then the other problem that you're

00:27:08.280 going to have in dealing with social media is as the school system begins to degrade,

00:27:14.280 we are entering a world where one of the core ways that people check the competence of other people

00:27:20.200 is to see if that person has been validated by people that they know, or has been validated by a

00:27:25.640 large group of strangers. And that is done often through social media accounts. So when somebody is

00:27:30.760 deciding to work with us or invest in us or something like that, they're, you know,

00:27:35.000 checking us out on X and seeing, do people who they respect follow us? Do we have X many followers,

00:27:41.080 at least like, are we socially relevant? And there really just aren't that many other good

00:27:49.320 competence fetters that are broadly accessible and inter interpretable across communities right now.

00:27:55.960 And so when you ban a kid from this, it's a bit like banning a kid from getting a college degree

00:28:00.120 in the last societal system, it's going to lead to like huge negative externalities for the kid.

00:28:05.640 Do you have thoughts before I go on? No, I agree. Let's go on to the different.

00:28:09.720 The other problem is, and now we're going to move into the question of the digital though, right? Like

00:28:16.920 if the message that the kid is being educated on is digital, is that going to cause problems?

00:28:23.240 And I would note here that what a lot of people don't know is when books were first released,

00:28:28.760 there were lots of panics around this of people becoming addicted to books and all of the negative

00:28:33.160 psychological effects of books. When I was talking to a mom about this recently, she was like, well,

00:28:38.600 I mean, even today, you know, my daughter got a little too into fantasy books and I had to like

00:28:47.400 wean her off those a bit for a period because she's like, it's not that they were bad books.

00:28:51.640 It's just that she was, you know, reading them to the exclusion of everything else, right?

00:28:55.720 Not just that, but they were building bad expectations about reality for her, you know,

00:29:00.040 expecting fantasy book boyfriends, expecting fantasy book environments, you know, the world

00:29:04.920 doesn't have dragons, right? You know, so it created a, a, a set of bad pre and you know,

00:29:12.440 for ages when, when people today are like, isn't that funny? They thought young girls were getting

00:29:16.920 addicted to reading in the past and going insane. And I was like, well, I mean, it's not that insane.

00:29:23.960 Like I, I think it was probably actually happening. It's just today we call that being a little too

00:29:29.720 into fan fiction or something like it still happens. It's just different these days.

00:29:35.640 I was talking to one fairly sheltering mother at one point bragging about how into writing her

00:29:42.040 daughter was and how she was involved in all of these communities online that wrote. And I was

00:29:47.480 like, huh, are they writing fan fiction? And she's like, yes, yes, that's exactly what they write.

00:29:54.520 And here I am thinking, oh, oh my goodness. You have no idea what your daughter is doing, do you?

00:30:00.520 I don't care.

00:30:14.200 I know that they are siblings, but I think there's nothing more.

00:30:19.800 If she were dating, like I made me banging, I'm sure.

00:30:23.880 A princess can't really be that bad. 0.88

00:30:27.000 but the online environment people are like well look at all the research on screen times you know

00:30:47.320 look at all the how bad screen times are my take on screen times is it's a bit like

00:30:53.620 i told somebody well living in the tenderloin in san francisco is bad for you

00:31:00.540 and they're like why do you think that and i'm like well you know every time i go there there's

00:31:05.420 like people throwing up and they look sick and they're screaming at the wall and they can barely

00:31:09.900 move and they're like that's the meth and i'm like yeah but why is it only in the tenderloin and

00:31:15.820 they're like well because that's where the they sell the meth that's where they do the meth that's

00:31:20.240 where all the meth is done it is not the tenderloin intrinsically it's that's where

00:31:25.580 meth is sold dopamine loops within online environments is what's causing all of these

00:31:31.620 negative externalities it's not the environments themselves that intrinsically lead to these

00:31:37.040 externalities and so yeah i it's and then they're like well yeah but you can't tell your kid that

00:31:44.820 they have to go to the tenderloin to work every day and i'm like if it turns out that that's where

00:31:48.120 our entire economy is based i mean yeah you kind of need them to learn how to handle this environment

00:31:54.780 without taking meth um and this creates this whole other scenario so people don't know what i'm talking

00:32:00.940 about when i'm talking about dopamine loops okay so you know there is you i'm forgetting the word for

00:32:06.140 this right now but if you put like a mouse or a rat skinner boxes skinner boxes yeah and it pushes

00:32:12.540 a lever and it gets food every time it pushes the lever it'll push the food when it's hungry if it gets

00:32:17.320 food sometimes when it pushes the lever it'll start like pushing the lever repeatedly right this is why

00:32:22.120 you get all these gambling like things in video games and online environments these days and they

00:32:27.700 can create an addiction using your own neurochemical pathways instead of inducing exogenous chemicals and

00:32:34.660 it can cause all sorts of and and and people are like i don't engage with anything like that online

00:32:39.640 and i'm like well do you use facebook or twitter or instagram because those are all social inner boxes

00:32:47.860 you are putting the picture out and then you get a variable positive response and to an adult that's

00:32:55.180 one thing but to a kid kids respond extremely exaggeratedly to social approval and so that is a

00:33:02.240 huge addiction pathway for kids and so the parents are like well so it is screens that are the problem i'm

00:33:08.040 like well i mean not really so if a kid's just like on wikipedia right it's not a problem right if if i put

00:33:16.560 a kid on youtube and he's watching magic school buzz i am 100 positive and people are like no all shows

00:33:22.320 are bad to some extent i'm sorry i'm 100 positive that that kid is going to be learning more than he

00:33:26.960 would be was a random adult and people can be like no the adult can be like but it's like yeah but you

00:33:33.400 haven't seen kids around adults even around you okay you can sit down and read them a story you've

00:33:40.160 read to them before which is like marginal additional utility you can try to engage them

00:33:45.420 in a conversation yeah like go outside and annotate things like your mom when she was still living would

00:33:51.280 tell you that you have to go outside and go on a walk with the kids and tell them the name of every

00:33:56.460 single plant also in latin um and she had this big vision for how you were going to educate the

00:34:01.460 children they are not listening to us when we're talking oh yeah no they're over there climbing a

00:34:08.880 tree they're over there stepping on hornet's nest they are not listening to us tell them the plant's

00:34:13.760 names in latin as an adult can like sit down and monopolize your kids attention maybe this works with

00:34:20.660 some kids but it doesn't work with our kids and i imagine it doesn't work with a lot of other

00:34:24.840 people's kids if i want my kid to sit down and actually watch something that has any educational

00:34:30.880 value and let me define educational value here it uses uh broad plot narratives it has human beings

00:34:36.780 with emotions reacting appropriately to various scenarios and it explains some sort of scientific

00:34:42.860 phenomenon i.e magical school bus like this is useful here um and it has an important bill

00:34:49.720 nye the science guy our kids love bill nye so so the old stuff not since he went woke and crazy

00:34:56.040 i mean he was an actor he wasn't like a smart person people understand this right parents who 0.97

00:35:01.580 are shocked to find out that bill nye is just a dumb actor like with the opinions of any other dumb 0.93

00:35:08.620 actor give off to me the same energy of like a police department who's stuck in a really hard 0.99

00:35:15.360 homicide investigation calling up steve from blues clues and being confused why he can't solve the

00:35:25.780 crime great we gotta find a paw print that's the first clue we put it in a notebook and now what do

00:35:34.740 we do we gotta find another paw print that's the second clue we put it in a notebook but varied ideas

00:35:41.040 so one of the things that people miss when they're like i'm just going to talk with my kids is the

00:35:45.100 vocabulary that you are going to use when you are trying to communicate with a child that's going to

00:35:49.440 be intrinsically limited and less than the vocabulary they're going to engage in a show so much of the

00:35:55.400 parenting advice i hear is from people who have clearly never interacted extended 100 and it's like

00:36:02.760 that won't work like they're like let the kids go outside i'm like you'll be arrested they're like

00:36:06.840 don't show them a show sit down and talk with your kids and it's like kids won't talk with you for more

00:36:13.120 than like five minutes like what are you talking about they'll get annoyed and walk off and go do

00:36:17.940 something else well what we've what i found really works well is annotation so yeah watch tv with them

00:36:24.920 but watch it with them and talk about it what are they doing now what's happening what do you think

00:36:29.680 they are feeling like right now what does this mean and you get really great conversations from that

00:36:34.200 because they're engaged with the media but they're also excited to talk about it but yeah but if you

00:36:39.100 prevent your kid from interacting with these types of medium because you're like well i don't want my kid 1.00

00:36:44.900 to have experience with those skinner box things they're gonna experience them eventually and they're not 0.95

00:36:51.220 gonna have any defenses when they do yeah yeah it's like it memes and addictive pathways are not

00:37:01.100 too dissimilar from diseases it's like introducing smallpox to indigenous americans they have no 1.00

00:37:09.140 defenses so you you want to have the kids who grew up around smallpox and you know slowly developed

00:37:16.320 you know resistance to increasing levels of viral load i guess and you don't want the kid who grew

00:37:21.760 up in a bubble and has absolutely no system it reminds me you know growing up i've mentioned i had some

00:37:27.540 friends who like their parents were like no dating until after college and i was like well do you know

00:37:32.560 how effed those kids were after college like and and but the point being is that until after college

00:37:38.860 they were hard more efficient than i was like they had more time to study than i did they had less

00:37:45.600 distractions than i did they were doing better than me when somebody says well we didn't allow a kid

00:37:52.440 any engagement with screen time in an online environment and look he did better than the kid

00:37:57.960 who did have access to screen time in an online environment i'm like yeah i mean i believe you

00:38:02.300 now at the end of the period where you still could control his access to the online environment that's

00:38:07.660 great while it lasts yeah i do not believe you five years post then and the question is is okay well if

00:38:15.360 my kid is accessing these sorts of things how do i convince him to you know play with the college

00:38:21.860 institute instead of go you know on a video game or something like that and i'm like well

00:38:26.920 that's the crux of it now you realize your core job as a parent how do you build a moral philosophy

00:38:34.620 for your child how do you build a system for your child or when a child is deciding what do i want

00:38:41.280 from my life and they're making decisions around that that they make the right decision you know

00:38:48.960 with our kids we focus on this concept of well you've got to you know make fix the world where

00:38:54.100 fix the world is defined as making the world a better place for future humans and and and we're

00:38:58.320 like oh my god how dare you give your child expectations and i'm like well that's an insane

00:39:05.520 thing to say of course i would have expectations for my child like the urban monoculture tries to

00:39:10.840 normalize this sentiment because it makes it easier to deconvert children from their birth cultures 0.92

00:39:15.820 because it doesn't have kids with people in the urban culture don't have kids and so it can only

00:39:20.040 survive by taking children from other cultures and so it doesn't need to motivate practices that are

00:39:24.240 actually useful in terms of child rearing it just needs to motivate practices to convince anyone that

00:39:29.220 their parents are abusive because the first step of a cult is to try to break a person from their

00:39:33.960 traditional support network i.e their parents and their community and birth culture so yeah and i know

00:39:40.740 my kids won't be particularly susceptible to that and we'll do another episode on why that would be

00:39:44.960 the case but point here being you as a parent need to come up with a system for communicating a broad

00:39:53.980 moral framework for your kids and if what you're thinking right here is oh i don't need to worry about

00:39:58.920 that because i take my kids to church every week i'd say you are so effed there is no way that kid's

00:40:04.920 going to be a christian when they grow up because i know so many young kids in this generation these parents

00:40:10.620 who grew up in an environment where most of the people around them were christian okay so the the type

00:40:16.360 of christianity that they grew up with is different and the type of sociological context that they grew

00:40:20.940 up in is different and they're like oh i can just copy and paste that iteration of christianity

00:40:24.220 onto my kids in a world that's like actively hunting them and attempting to brainwash them

00:40:28.840 and they'll be fine and i'm like no what no that's an insane sentiment you're you're you are

00:40:36.260 you are the shepherd that is leaving your flock with the wolf like what are you thinking that that

00:40:42.420 is not going to work you come you come one day and you're like well where is where's little temmy 0.99

00:40:47.480 and uh the wolf's wiping the blood off his face because you were a buffoon and you thought that 0.85

00:40:54.580 you were dealing with the same environmental and technological and might say i'm talking about 0.68

00:40:59.420 cultural technological context that you grew up in and you are not and this is why when so many

00:41:05.080 people are like oh i'll just go back to traditions i'm like those traditions were developed for contexts

00:41:09.240 in which they were the norm you know whether it's you know pretty much the only one that wasn't was

00:41:15.000 judaism and that's why judaism is weeping butt right now in terms of fertility rates in terms of 0.99

00:41:21.680 deconversion rates in terms of because they for hundreds of years have been a minority in where

00:41:26.620 they lived but right now if you are a baptist you know it's likely that most of the people around you

00:41:31.200 growing up were baptists if you were a mormon it's likely that most of the people around you growing

00:41:34.360 up were mormon if you were uh you know a muslim it's likely that well depends on where you live but

00:41:39.760 most people growing up around you were muslim um and so the tools that defended you won't defend your 1.00

00:41:46.060 kids okay the the weapon that you need to bring to school let's put it this way when everyone else

00:41:52.920 at the school is a sheep and not a wolf is very different okay your kids need swords not little

00:41:58.700 shivs and they also need to learn to be smart one of the things i've noticed a lot of like

00:42:03.400 conservative parents they get so proud that their kids got canceled and i'm like no your kids shouldn't

00:42:08.000 have gotten canceled you knob you should have taught them how to defend themselves from being caught

00:42:12.840 out by the inquisition okay they can achieve more if they can stay under the radar until they're

00:42:18.240 willing to use the cancellation to their benefit you know getting ostracized by your peers in high

00:42:25.660 school is not a good thing and you should have taught them that they were the minority and they 1.00

00:42:30.660 were the beleaguered group and they were going into a hostile environment but what are your thoughts

00:42:34.120 i agree uh 100 and you hear often from the parents whose kids are canceled because they turn them

00:42:41.820 into news stories but i think majority of kids who go through a hostile environment in school and

00:42:47.060 whose parents are doing a good job with annotation do learn that and we we know kids like that and

00:42:53.640 they're very aware of what's going on which is great and i think it really goes to show that if you want

00:42:59.440 to actually protect your culture you should and absolutely can send your kids through mainstream

00:43:06.380 institutions and actively teach them how to inoculate themselves against toxic culture and habits

00:43:13.020 so we've covered the environment we've covered covered the curriculum yeah but we haven't covered

00:43:20.960 the what's the word i'm like curriculum but i'm not going to cover the curriculum because frankly there

00:43:25.060 just aren't that many curriculum people believe there are like more genuine curriculum than there really

00:43:29.560 are there when i say curriculum i mean just like any model of teaching kids like wikipedia could be a

00:43:34.660 curriculum right like well i don't know so what i hear is basically you can go to a catholic school

00:43:41.200 you can go to like a traditional jewish school you can do what's what's really popular among

00:43:48.860 conservatives these days is a classical christian education and then there is mainstream urban monoculture

00:43:56.500 school by the way i want to roll my eyes harder at a classical christian education okay go ahead rip into

00:44:02.140 it because that's what's pervasive among people who consider these are like these jobs who are like

00:44:06.880 i'm gonna have my kids read all the classics all of these great books because they think that like

00:44:11.500 things in the past are like intrinsically better sources of knowledge than things today and it's

00:44:16.320 like no cultural systems from the past might be better sources but things you know reading old man

00:44:22.680 in the sea is not going to be as useful use of your kids time as learning to code like obviously or

00:44:28.980 spending time learning ai and this is a really important thing that people are missing

00:44:33.060 where people get information from like the best medium of communication of information is changing

00:44:41.880 when i was growing up there were many parents who in educational models that were like okay kids

00:44:49.980 we got to teach you how to learn so we're going to teach you the dewey decimal system

00:44:54.080 and we're going to teach you how to use a library and uh and people of our generation all remember

00:45:00.320 this and no one has used this ever but the kids were like well i mean it seems like this internet thing

00:45:06.180 is what i should be focused on like it seems like this is what i should learn how to use really well

00:45:11.020 if i want to be effective in the next era i i should learn how to do boolean searches i should learn it

00:45:16.000 and how many people i know today still don't know how to do boolean searches you know what i mean

00:45:18.640 like they are they were using the key source of information that everyone else had access to

00:45:23.940 it was like intrinsic handicaps and then in this next era many parents are going into it and they're

00:45:30.180 like okay i need to teach my kids how to use the internet wisely to source for information and i'm

00:45:35.240 like we're in ai era now okay this is this is new if your kids don't know how to use ai they are effed

00:45:43.060 and you know i was mentioning this to the lady in the in i was interviewing because on the deborah show

00:45:48.020 and this is where we're talking about this and she said well you know i think it's unethical the

00:45:52.720 way ai like scrapes other people's images and stuff like that and scrapes other people's work and i'm

00:45:58.000 like okay this is like me saying i think it's unethical that the tuskegee experiments happen

00:46:04.260 therefore i won't give my kids vaccines like regardless of how ethical it is it's happened it's

00:46:10.020 done your kids are going to be competing like if you try to teach your kid how to be a graphic designer

00:46:15.280 and and they go out and try to get jobs they'll be competing against people who know how to use ai

00:46:19.720 and even if they want to do their own art by hand generally now the first way to learn to do

00:46:28.520 something is through ai and i love it like coders oh coders but the the skill tree that we developed

00:46:34.460 for parasia starts with well learn to code using ai i.e learn to give ai prompts that give it back code

00:46:41.700 that you can use and they're like well this will teach you bad habits and i'm like it will teach

00:46:47.000 you bad habits if you're learning to code for the world of today if you're learning to code for the

00:46:51.760 world of tomorrow maybe not and also keep in mind that it's the first skill in the programming tree 0.99

00:46:56.940 it's the skill that a lot of people will drop out at and yet it is the skill that any idiot can figure 0.87

00:47:01.960 out right and realize that hey me that doesn't fully know how to code i can figure out how to do some 0.88

00:47:10.460 basic stuff with ai and this is true across all fields you know art like hey me as not who's not

00:47:16.660 going to try to become a professional artist i can figure out how to like make art for title cards

00:47:22.860 for example which i do every day right like it doesn't need to be perfect you're seeing it in

00:47:26.840 this little like you know quarter inch square hold on i'm gonna have a octavian come in and say hi 0.99

00:47:32.180 to sum it all up yeah what to sum it all up basically parents need to stop thinking that

00:47:39.220 switching up one of these things is going to change everything they have to think about each

00:47:42.820 element of the kid's education right yes and they have to use the collins institute because it's the

00:47:47.180 only real educational system left octavian what do you think of the collins institute

00:47:50.820 that i just really really really labs that are flat and i like that trip and i like you guys

00:48:05.060 because when those sounds took a fake salary and i like tips and so you wait you like us yes because

00:48:15.220 you guys because you are the ones i tell you oh you like us because we are obedient yeah do we do

00:48:25.040 what you tell us yes here you want to hold this and do you like it when we do what we what you tell

00:48:31.600 us too yeah and wait octavian do you like do you like earlier you're telling me do you like this world

00:48:38.260 yes do you do you want to go away or do you like being here i like being here okay do you want more

00:48:47.000 brothers and sisters yeah do you like mommy 0.96

00:48:51.300 wait are you are you goofy 0.92

00:48:57.580 can you tell the audience a joke about liking and subscribing 0.95

00:49:02.860 why did uh why did a car ticket cross the road to get to a wire because it found food that was

00:49:18.380 electronic it found electronic food yeah wait a second that doesn't sound true okay wait okay octavian

00:49:30.780 octavian octavian octavian why did the chicken cross the road because he found food that's

00:49:35.340 electronic is that really what he said cross the food to get to a wire because he found food that was

00:49:40.040 electronic because no because cars were in outer space cars were in outer space okay so here's the

00:49:48.420 question i have well that's true isn't it there is a tesla still out there somewhere isn't there

00:49:52.900 yeah okay octavian octavian listen listen listen i have a question for you

00:49:58.080 do you who do you like best do you like mommy daddy torsten or titan

00:50:03.600 i like to see here because he's your brother yeah okay yeah all right i'm gonna go get the other

00:50:14.980 kids i love you simone i love you too pumpkin ravioli with pesto right okay gotcha

00:50:21.420 yeah you can talk to mommy yeah you can talk to me buddy i'll interview you sound good okay look sit

00:50:27.860 down sit down and be down and i'm gonna interview you all right octavian all right where do you learn

00:50:34.320 the most do you learn the most at school or from watching shows like magic school bus

00:50:39.700 um at school at school and what do they teach you at school they learn me they learn you at school

00:50:49.120 do you learn things from shows like bill and i have a science guy and magic school bus too

00:50:54.720 no not those well you also watch the monkey at the baseball play

00:51:00.640 monkey with a baseball yeah play it does got an idea so a computer can make it

00:51:11.320 is that what you watch on the computer at school yes i i also have chromebook

00:51:19.900 oh on your oh chromebooks yeah you watch you watch the monkey with the baseball thing on your

00:51:28.340 chromebook at school no but i know the scope videos um oh there is one at the baseball place

00:51:38.560 the baseball place what what else do you do at school to learn i that's a good question i'll tell you

00:51:52.300 i i i did paper i i i draw paper and do everything i connect the dots and put it in my mailbox

00:52:06.540 so you do paperwork at school is that right yeah and do you like doing paperwork octavian

00:52:16.180 yes i do okay that's fortunate that is very fortunate nice microphone is still blocked in

00:52:26.780 it's still working because i can still hear you which is good what do you want for dinner octavian

00:52:34.420 i want for dinner is the fakes i was talking about yesterday

00:52:40.380 you are like miranda priestly i swear i just want the fakes that say she does ask you

00:52:50.600 the cheetos that she asked me for yeah i want the cheetos i gave her all the cheetos she has all 1.00

00:52:58.200 the cheetos there's only healthy food in our house buddy what i'm sorry yeah

00:53:04.560 well you can have strawberries here do you like strawberries yeah i really want the things

00:53:16.040 you're going to defenestrate you're going to defenestrate me can you say defenestrate

00:53:32.500 good so that's that's what you were threatening you're you're going to defenestrate me if you're

00:53:39.600 going to kick someone out through the window you're defenestrating them all right buddy

00:53:42.500 yeah yeah can you say that again basically if you don't give me junk food i will defenestrate 0.82

00:53:48.920 you say that if i if you don't give me junk food i'll defenestrate you good job buddy high five

00:53:57.260 through the screen yeah yeah good job daddy learning to to be violent with authority is important

00:54:05.180 no eloquent violence in this house yeah eloquent violence you can't let her 1.00

00:54:09.860 what do you want to say titan you want to see baby deer tonight

00:54:14.920 sir say baby deer do you see baby deer

00:54:19.440 do you like the baby deer titan

00:54:26.160 what do you want to say titan

00:54:29.900 you're titan what do you want to say did you see that baby deer where the baby deer

00:54:37.260 oh titan i love you

00:54:44.840 come here come here you just want it's a microphone titan can you say microphone titan

00:54:55.020 yes i just i just want to say baby deer in the window what do you want to say to mommy here

00:55:04.820 what do you want to say to people

00:55:05.820 okay it's not headphones it's a microphone titan can you say microphone

00:55:13.320 let torsten play with it for one second

00:55:17.480 hey buddy what do you want to say towards it

00:55:19.380 look who i have

00:55:21.200 i think i like

00:55:24.580 awesome tv

00:55:26.360 oh really

00:55:31.040 look you've got the microphone now

00:55:32.820 you see them on the screen lady

00:55:36.700 yeah

00:55:37.320 tell it

00:55:40.560 collins clan

00:55:42.660 i can't hear you dad

00:55:45.060 the world

00:55:46.040 i can't hear you

00:55:48.600 all right i'll come down and make dinner

00:55:49.840 i can't hear you

00:55:51.920 are you gonna rule the world octavian

00:55:53.320 yeah

00:55:53.840 yeah no

00:55:54.880 you're not gonna rule the world

00:55:55.880 why can't i not hear them

00:55:57.920 because i'm wearing headphones

00:55:58.820 wait are you gonna rule the world torsten 0.99

00:56:00.740 but i'm made it here dumb 0.96

00:56:03.420 i'm again i want to see mom 0.93

00:56:06.940 i'm right here toasty

00:56:08.480 you want me to come downstairs

00:56:09.860 i can hear you

00:56:10.860 i don't know what you're saying

00:56:12.600 so i'm not gonna do anything

00:56:15.760 okay

00:56:16.620 i'll be right down

00:56:22.180 i'm gonna stop recording and come down i love you

00:56:24.540 we're gonna go down

00:56:27.400 a pipe dream

00:56:28.380 okay

00:56:30.020 hold on

00:56:31.020 created by a delirious woman 1.00

00:56:33.180 i will be able to hear you once i put these in

00:56:36.380 oh don't do that

00:56:37.960 mrs grabulux

00:56:40.560 oh miss you're not married yet

00:56:43.700 let's be

00:56:44.360 proper about this

00:56:47.220 sorry i forgot to tell you

00:56:48.640 i did have some talks with another family

00:56:50.600 and the goats have arrived

00:56:52.560 so she is married

00:56:53.780 but i got you those miniature goats you wanted

00:56:56.680 so

00:56:57.200 no they were miniature cows

00:56:58.960 that they were looking at

00:57:00.440 they were gonna get miniature cows

00:57:02.980 but i think there's some kind of local ordinance

00:57:05.600 that prevents us from owning livestock above a certain size

00:57:08.460 maybe that's why i was looking for miniature cows actually

00:57:10.600 it's a loophole

00:57:11.960 a toy cow

00:57:13.060 it's not a cow cow

00:57:14.680 did you know

00:57:15.740 that the

00:57:16.760 the

00:57:17.360 oh gosh

00:57:19.120 what's the

00:57:19.680 you know hannah needleman

00:57:20.820 the needleman's

00:57:21.840 of

00:57:22.220 gosh what's it called

00:57:23.320 the trad wife farm

00:57:24.620 oh the ballerina farms

00:57:26.580 ballerina farms

00:57:27.440 thank you

00:57:27.820 yeah the ballerina farms

00:57:28.880 family once went camping with their

00:57:30.780 dairy cow

00:57:31.720 because

00:57:32.540 they didn't have anywhere to

00:57:35.080 like i guess they had no one to watch it

00:57:36.660 and you know dairy cows have to be milked

00:57:38.480 quite regularly

00:57:39.180 so they just

00:57:40.060 they just took her camping

00:57:42.360 had fresh milk

00:57:44.280 i guess it's cheaper than hiring somebody to milk your dairy cow

00:57:47.180 honestly it's so hard to get a babysitter

00:57:49.360 can you imagine what it would be like to get a cow sitter

00:57:51.460 i mean

00:57:52.000 i get it

00:57:53.560 to yank on those

00:57:54.900 on those tatas

00:57:56.320 those teat

00:57:56.920 i mean that you gotta

00:57:58.140 paying a teen to do that 0.81

00:57:59.560 that's hard

00:58:00.220 if you're in like a conservative mormon community maybe

00:58:02.780 well i feel like the modern liability too

00:58:04.800 maybe the cow would 1.00

00:58:05.860 kick the local teen

00:58:07.200 who you have cow sitting them 0.97

00:58:08.860 and then there would be a lawsuit

00:58:10.140 so just

00:58:10.780 bring it

00:58:13.380 camping

00:58:13.780 also probably better for viral videos

00:58:15.580 if you bring the cow

00:58:16.520 i think this was before they were vlogging

00:58:18.300 this was back when she just kept an extensive diary online

00:58:21.400 vlog online

00:58:23.180 mormons do crazy things 1.00

00:58:25.520 like 0.98

00:58:25.780 mormons are the best 0.96

00:58:26.940 putting his dog on top of the car 0.97

00:58:28.180 that's not crazy

00:58:29.200 one of my favorite experiences from childhood

00:58:31.680 was my dad

00:58:32.820 generously

00:58:33.660 let me cling

00:58:35.120 to the rack

00:58:36.000 on the top of our car

00:58:37.640 and he drove it for a while

00:58:39.280 and it was

00:58:40.060 yeah

00:58:41.340 i agree

00:58:42.580 um the uh

00:58:43.940 the uh

00:58:44.580 you you you are 1.00

00:58:45.960 dogs want to stick their head out the window 0.98

00:58:49.040 when they're driving in a driver's seat

00:58:50.740 and they're not secured

00:58:51.520 they want

00:58:52.560 the wind in their face

00:58:53.860 he was doing the dog

00:58:55.580 a favor

00:58:56.220 i think

00:58:56.680 even dog lovers

00:58:57.760 don't understand

00:58:58.720 what dogs want

00:58:59.740 it seems

00:59:00.180 what's wrong with these people

00:59:01.540 i know 0.99

00:59:01.900 disgusting

00:59:02.600 aren't they 0.99

00:59:03.340 kind of

00:59:06.080 when i think about the number of people who use their dogs for

00:59:10.300 master being

00:59:11.820 pleasure we'll say

00:59:12.720 yeah

00:59:13.140 it's it's high

00:59:15.440 it's high in america

00:59:16.460 yeah

00:59:16.720 it's really high

00:59:17.620 and it just

00:59:18.160 it really squishes me out

00:59:19.940 and i

00:59:20.740 although

00:59:22.260 did you know

00:59:23.380 if you read the pragmatist guide to sexuality

00:59:25.880 one of the books we'd written

00:59:26.880 you would know

00:59:27.340 it's one of the only fetishes

00:59:28.540 that has gone down dramatically over time

00:59:30.740 oh that's nice

00:59:31.660 why

00:59:32.080 it went from 7% to 5%

00:59:34.300 because fewer

00:59:35.360 lower percent of americans lived in a rural environment

00:59:37.780 is the core reason

00:59:39.140 oh so urban dog owners are less likely to

00:59:41.740 well no

00:59:42.080 so the question wasn't dog

00:59:44.060 it was animal

00:59:45.120 yeah

00:59:45.800 animal relations

00:59:46.580 any animal

00:59:47.060 yeah

00:59:47.380 and so you know

00:59:48.720 just more people were living on farms in the past

00:59:50.600 well and i think that in that case

00:59:52.040 we're talking about men penetrating animals

00:59:53.840 when really what i'm grossed out by

00:59:56.520 most

00:59:57.960 are you not grossed out by men penetrating animals

01:00:00.420 well i'm grossed out by that

01:00:01.540 but i'm

01:00:01.860 i think what's more pervasive

01:00:03.340 is women having animals 1.00

01:00:05.100 dogs

01:00:05.940 oh yeah

01:00:06.240 it is weirdly pervasive

01:00:07.860 go down on them

01:00:08.960 yeah

01:00:10.020 oof

01:00:11.080 this is

01:00:12.180 by the way

01:00:12.640 you know our education episode

01:00:14.020 oh no no no

01:00:15.300 no cut this out

01:00:15.860 we haven't started yet

01:00:16.620 just start

01:00:17.140 just start

01:00:17.840 we're not putting this in

01:00:19.080 this isn't

01:00:19.540 this is a family episode

01:00:20.860 don't we're

01:00:21.820 family focus

01:00:22.520 start the episode

01:00:23.180 start the episode

01:00:23.960 yeah

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