Based Camp - France & China New (Game Over) Fertility Data

00:00:00.000 France this year began to fall into freefall, or in this past couple of years, it's begun

00:00:05.180 to fall into freefall.

00:00:05.980 And it really can no longer be included in the club of countries that are resistant to

00:00:11.220 fertility collapse.

00:00:12.100 And there's been new data from China.

00:00:14.420 What that would represent is a decline of 60% from 2016.

00:00:21.200 60%.

00:00:21.880 That is catastrophic.

00:00:25.920 Imagine if this was like an economy, right?

00:00:28.300 And an economy shrunk by 60% in eight years.

00:00:32.080 This is the fertility equivalent of hyperinflation. 0.97

00:00:36.880 It is the fertility equivalent of having to walk around with wheelbarrows to buy a loaf 1.00

00:00:42.500 of bread, wheelbarrows full of cash, you know, when you hear about these situations.

00:00:47.000 People do not understand the societal effects this is going to have.

00:00:51.580 And anyone who's in one of these groups that is going to be targeted because of this, like

00:00:55.860 the LGBT populations around the world, if you cannot fix this problem, if you cannot convince 0.82

00:01:02.520 people who are okay with gay people existing to have kids at an above replacement fertility 0.98

00:01:07.340 rate, you will be hunted down and systemically exterminated. 0.98

00:01:12.020 And we're beginning to see the first waves of this.

00:01:15.700 Would you like to know more?

00:01:16.720 One of the really funny things that happened to us on a recent flight was over the speakers,

00:01:22.180 they had to explain when the masks drop, you know, in case of a depressurization of the

00:01:27.200 cabin, be sure to take off your mask before putting on the mask that's delivering oxygen.

00:01:33.600 So this is-

00:01:34.120 And I turned to Malcolm and I'm like, you know what?

00:01:37.300 These people, let them go.

00:01:39.960 No, genuinely.

00:01:40.840 If you are so terrified about COVID still that you are wearing a mask and the cabin is depressurized

00:01:48.720 and you try to put the oxygen mask over your mask-

00:01:51.280 Over your N95.

00:01:52.760 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:52.960 Really, you probably should die. 1.00

00:01:55.040 Like, I'm sorry. 1.00

00:01:57.880 Like, the human civilization is better without you.

00:02:01.580 And I salute your contribution for it by ducking out.

00:02:05.700 Yeah.

00:02:05.980 Let nature play its course on this crashing air flight.

00:02:10.440 Not that, like, you're going to survive anyway, but I guess, yeah, if the door blows out, never

00:02:14.220 mind.

00:02:14.840 But yeah, that was a really astounding comment to take off here.

00:02:18.840 So that must have meant that on this flight, one or more people put on an oxygen mask on

00:02:26.100 top of their faces.

00:02:28.060 Because this was new.

00:02:28.800 This must have been when the door blew out.

00:02:30.420 Yeah.

00:02:30.640 This must have been when the door blew out because this was a new comment we'd never heard on

00:02:34.200 a flight.

00:02:34.520 We've been on plenty of flights.

00:02:36.840 Someone out there needed to be told.

00:02:40.140 Anyway.

00:02:41.580 Yikes.

00:02:42.120 Okay.

00:02:42.320 Now for-

00:02:42.740 Hey, my gorgeous demigod of a husband.

00:02:44.480 And what do China and France have in common that is not a love of couture?

00:02:50.480 Well, a recent fertility collapse, but I actually want to-

00:02:54.400 The countries are very different, but we're going to talk about them together in this video

00:02:57.700 because we recently did an all-China video.

00:02:59.900 And there's been new data from China that is really shocking to us.

00:03:03.580 But there's also been new data from France.

00:03:05.800 So China has historically been having a fertility collapse problem.

00:03:10.600 It's just infinitely worse than anyone thought.

00:03:14.060 The recent statistics show that in just the last eight years, the number of kids being

00:03:18.600 born within China has declined by 60%.

00:03:20.940 And I'm going to post a graph here that shows how much year over year.

00:03:23.700 But this means for like the past five years, you've had double digit declines in fertility

00:03:27.740 rate every single year.

00:03:29.380 That's insane.

00:03:31.220 But France has actually, along with the US, been one of the countries that has really bucked

00:03:37.120 this trend.

00:03:37.680 So the United States, as everyone knows, is one of the countries that actually has fertility

00:03:43.220 rate fall slower than other countries.

00:03:46.160 The two other countries that really fit this, when you're talking about their, at least if

00:03:49.920 you control for their wealth, have historically been Israel and France, right?

00:03:54.600 So if we're talking about year over year decline in the US fertility rate, this last year, I think

00:03:57.640 it was only 2%.

00:03:58.560 Well, France this year began to fall into free fall, or in this past couple of years, it's

00:04:04.840 begun to fall into free fall.

00:04:06.080 And it really can no longer be included in the club of countries that are resistant to

00:04:11.100 fertility collapse.

00:04:12.000 Yeah, which we were really excited about.

00:04:13.960 I mean, there was one, you know?

00:04:18.140 Yeah.

00:04:18.460 So I'll post a graph on this screen, and we actually posted a meme of like the fire dog

00:04:24.080 alongside this graph, because you can see, this is like a falling off a cliff fertility

00:04:28.920 rate at this point.

00:04:30.240 But also, you know, France registered, so we're going to post an article here, 678,000 births

00:04:37.340 last year, representing a decrease of 7% from 2022, and down 20% from 2020.

00:04:45.860 That is absolutely shocking.

00:04:50.340 Now, France is trying to adapt to this.

00:04:53.260 They are trying to give, they're actually doing a bunch of stuff that's going to make

00:04:57.420 the problem worse.

00:05:00.120 So let's talk about what they're doing, and then we can contrast this with some of the

00:05:03.160 new things that we've learned that China is doing.

00:05:05.220 Nobody listens to you, Malcolm.

00:05:06.460 It's so sad.

00:05:07.440 Why won't they just listen?

00:05:08.840 I'm just out there telling them, what you're doing is not going to work.

00:05:11.500 Well, what's interesting, too, is right now, of the news outlets that are reaching out

00:05:16.180 to us about demographic collapse, the vast majority of them have been French recently.

00:05:23.180 Like, France is aware of this, but they're like, oh, we're just doing it totally wrong.

00:05:28.840 Yeah.

00:05:29.260 Okay.

00:05:29.520 So what is France doing?

00:05:31.120 They are extending maternity leave and giving more paid maternity leave. 0.99

00:05:36.180 That is the dumbest thing you could do. 0.85

00:05:39.120 If you care about high fertility weights, you should remove maternity leave at all as a 1.00

00:05:43.420 concept.

00:05:44.400 Like, it is a bad concept because it creates this idea that women must be pampered throughout 1.00

00:05:50.140 their pregnancy, which increases the perceived difficulty of the pregnancy to the woman. 0.69

00:05:55.040 Do you want to talk about this?

00:05:55.660 Yeah, it's like a cultural, it's considerate propaganda that's saying that having a kid is

00:06:01.880 incredibly difficult.

00:06:03.160 Also, if you actually care about, like, feminism in the workplace, making women more dangerous 1.00

00:06:09.800 employees to have, and especially women who seem to want to have a family, is not a good 1.00

00:06:15.240 way, especially in France, where it's already almost impossible to fire someone once you

00:06:19.300 hire them, not a good way to make women a safe hire. 1.00

00:06:23.600 No, this is terrible for women. 1.00

00:06:25.500 Terrible.

00:06:26.300 And worse than that, I mean, so what do you do?

00:06:28.620 Like, what is the actual policy you should be pushing in this area?

00:06:31.800 It should be, it should be that you cannot disallow women from bringing their baby into

00:06:38.000 the workplace.

00:06:39.020 And that when a woman gives birth, if she wants to work from home, unless you have a hard and 0.86

00:06:46.100 provable reason she can't work from home, she has to be allowed to work from home. 1.00

00:06:50.640 Yeah.

00:06:50.820 But if she has to work in the office, there should be childcare available. 1.00

00:06:53.840 Yeah, but I actually think that this work from home law should be just broadly, like,

00:06:58.320 if you want to really increase fertility rates, this law should just be the law of the land. 0.57

00:07:02.720 For men and women.

00:07:03.420 For men and women.

00:07:04.140 Because men can also be the ones to stay at home.

00:07:06.560 Totally.

00:07:07.440 Right.

00:07:07.700 But the point being is if a company cannot prove why a person has to go to the office with

00:07:13.440 statistics, because the statistics just aren't there.

00:07:15.920 Like, we've done work from home versus work from the office, re-recorded data on this.

00:07:20.580 Work from home is dramatically more productive than what they do.

00:07:22.820 And ironically, so one of the most famous, pretty rigorous studies that was done on this

00:07:27.460 early, I think it was somewhere in Asia, and it was a travel company where they did

00:07:31.600 a controlled, like some people, I think it was controlled, worked from home, whereas

00:07:36.560 other people stayed in the office.

00:07:38.100 They found, importantly, that the people who worked from home were more productive, got

00:07:42.740 more done.

00:07:43.480 The people who worked in the office were less productive, but the people who worked in the

00:07:46.820 office got more promotions.

00:07:47.780 So not only are anti-work from home policies damaging to a company's productivity, they

00:07:54.180 also encourage the promotion of less productive employees who invest more time in water cooler

00:08:01.640 chat and politicking and performative work that is ultimately killing and draining life

00:08:07.960 from the company.

00:08:08.760 Yeah, you are promoting the brown nosers. 1.00

00:08:11.820 And if we were running a large company, we would have a policy looking for anyone who 0.86

00:08:15.600 is promoting people who work from the office.

00:08:17.760 Like, I would consider that as a huge ding to an employee.

00:08:19.900 If they wanted to work for the office, I'd be like, oh, so you don't want to work.

00:08:22.300 You like office politics and office theater.

00:08:24.880 But that's an aside there.

00:08:27.980 So those would be like actual useful things that France could implement. 0.89

00:08:30.940 Instead, they're doing the dumbest thing, which is increasing fertility payments during 0.75

00:08:36.560 a woman's maternity leave, which is, you know, backed by this sort of state organization, 0.90

00:08:41.000 which is not going to be fundable soon, given the rate of the fertility collapse in France.

00:08:46.320 Yeah, what younger generations are going to pay for this?

00:08:48.820 God, good point.

00:08:50.340 But now we need to talk about what China is doing, which is sort of the exact opposite. 0.99

00:08:55.240 I am, it's unethical, but I won't say that it's necessarily stupid. 0.95

00:09:00.140 Like, I don't know what's going to come of it, because no one else has tried this before, 0.95

00:09:05.100 but it's pretty bold.

00:09:07.020 So what China has started doing is, hold on, I'm going to pull up the card here that somebody 0.95

00:09:13.400 had passed out by the CCP.

00:09:15.160 So one is they are reaching out to any mother that is under 35 and telling them to have more 0.78

00:09:23.500 kids.

00:09:24.420 They're like, okay, you've already had a kid.

00:09:26.220 You need to have more kids. 0.98

00:09:27.440 So pressure from the government.

00:09:29.420 That could actually work.

00:09:31.100 But the other thing that they're cracking down on, and I'll post a picture of a card 0.81

00:09:35.040 here, which is beware of homosexuals cards. 0.98

00:09:40.120 Basically explaining to people the threat, quote unquote, the threat of homosexuals. 0.99

00:09:45.820 And this is a threat insofar as, again, I wouldn't use the word homosexuals. 0.57

00:09:51.240 I'm just using the word that is used in this translation here.

00:09:55.240 I find it to be a little more derogatory than I'm comfortable with.

00:09:59.600 But let's see what they say here.

00:10:01.100 Oh, so it's a lecture so that they can attend. 0.99

00:10:04.420 So Wu Zain Plaza warns you, beware of homosexuals. 1.00

00:10:08.100 How can a country be prosperous without full descendants? 1.00

00:10:12.780 How can we live healthy lives without a prosperous motherland? 0.95

00:10:17.060 And it's a lecture that they can attend on preventing homosexuals. 1.00

00:10:21.700 Well, I love that. 0.96

00:10:22.680 Like, I remember American propaganda against the gays. 0.99

00:10:28.560 And it was like, he's a predator.

00:10:31.520 You know, like, it just completely misunderstood.

00:10:34.000 But it was also just like, this is a cultural menace.

00:10:35.960 Whereas like, China is like, but they're not having kids. 0.82

00:10:39.680 Which is really interesting.

00:10:41.920 I mean, I wish that China could actually just be like, okay, to all gay and lesbian couples,

00:10:48.320 to like, we will provide to you free, you know, IVF.

00:10:54.100 We will make it very easy for you to have kids.

00:10:56.060 We will help you.

00:10:57.520 Because I mean, the outcomes also seem to show like from that Netherlands study that

00:11:01.020 that we looked at, that children like of surrogates to gay couples had better outcomes a little

00:11:08.460 bit on average.

00:11:09.380 So like, why not? 0.84

00:11:10.600 I mean, China should be sampling bias because, you know, gay people, it's a lot harder for 0.97

00:11:14.680 them to have kids. 0.82

00:11:15.200 But the point here being, and they're going to have fewer kids, which we'll talk about

00:11:19.680 in a second.

00:11:20.080 When she said she loves this, it doesn't mean she loves that gay people are being oppressed.

00:11:23.420 She said she means she finds the mechanism of oppression comical.

00:11:26.880 Yes.

00:11:27.500 The earlier oppression was in the United States.

00:11:29.660 But the reason you had that earlier oppression within the United States was fertility.

00:11:36.320 And this is really important for people to understand.

00:11:39.180 And it's why our book, The Fragmentist Guide to Crafting Religion is so important and why

00:11:44.400 everyone should read it because it discusses some concepts that no one has really discussed

00:11:48.580 before.

00:11:49.580 So previously in the field of memetics, this is how ideas evolve.

00:11:54.140 People thought of memes as things that basically captured a person's mind, like got into

00:11:59.640 their mind, like a virus, and then that person to reproduce themselves.

00:12:03.580 So they would get in that person's mind.

00:12:05.460 And then that person would go out and try to convince as many other people as possible

00:12:09.060 of the idea.

00:12:10.260 But as we point out, not exactly.

00:12:12.860 So some memes are completely parasitic like that.

00:12:15.660 The urban monoculture is an example of this.

00:12:17.840 But other memes in a historic context were actually clusters of memetic ideas that improved the individual

00:12:24.480 biological fitness of the group.

00:12:26.420 And by biological fitness, what I mean is at the evolutionary level.

00:12:30.160 Groups that had these memetic clusters were, one, a higher fertility rate, two, had lower

00:12:36.280 death rates, and three, were better at resisting simple viral memetics.

00:12:42.560 What do we usually call these?

00:12:44.120 These are what religions were or what we call cultivars.

00:12:47.300 So they are these symbiotic cultural groups.

00:12:49.360 Now, there is a reason, it may seem arbitrary, that almost every long-lived successful cultural

00:12:55.680 group in human history has had an undertone of homophobia to it up until the point where

00:13:02.280 it becomes a dominant societal cultural group and really successful for a while, and then

00:13:06.000 it usually drops as homophobia, and then it has a collapse.

00:13:08.660 But it's not the drop of homophobia that causes the collapse.

00:13:11.120 It's a drop of the culture more broadly.

00:13:13.020 It's when they begin to accept gay people is often when they're throwing out all the other 1.00

00:13:17.080 rules that seem arbitrary to them and they don't understand, and they're starting to 0.82

00:13:20.480 do all the orgies and all the opulence and everything like that, which most cultures shame.

00:13:24.640 And so the question is, is why?

00:13:25.600 Why?

00:13:25.780 Because it lowers fertility rates.

00:13:27.420 And so the iterations of those cultures that didn't have these prohibitions had lower

00:13:31.280 fertility rates than the iterations that did have these prohibitions, which led to the

00:13:35.040 iterations that had these prohibitions outcompeting the iterations that didn't have these prohibitions.

00:13:39.960 Now, this is not great from our perspective.

00:13:42.840 I mean, we believe in sort of maximum individual choice, and we don't like that we're seeing

00:13:48.420 this increase in homophobia, but there is a reason why historically the homophobic groups

00:13:53.640 have competed with the other groups, and China is recognizing this. 0.53

00:13:56.140 Gay people have fewer kids than straight people. 1.00

00:13:58.440 Therefore, we can increase the fertility rate by shaming gay people and by making people afraid 1.00

00:14:03.020 to be publicly gay. 0.94

00:14:04.620 Well, and we need to add that China is the bellwether of the coercive effects of demographic collapse.

00:14:11.020 So anything that you see China doing now is stuff that you can expect other nations to 0.84

00:14:17.260 start doing as they reach higher levels of desperation.

00:14:21.140 So if you actually care about gay rights, and if you actually care about reproductive choice,

00:14:26.560 you should actually care about demographic collapse.

00:14:29.640 And you can already look to places like China to see exactly why. 0.70

00:14:33.640 I mean, I can't believe they have like, hey, watch out for the gays card. 1.00

00:14:38.360 It's hilarious.

00:14:39.180 So to give you an idea of how bad things are in China right now, which is dramatically worse

00:14:44.440 than the situation in France, like they're not really in the same boat in terms of the

00:14:47.940 scope.

00:14:48.720 If the newly leaked data from China is right, and they have 8 million fewer births in 2023,

00:14:54.760 what that would represent is a decline of 60% from 2016.

00:15:00.880 And a 17% year-over-year decline.

00:15:06.140 60%.

00:15:06.540 That is catastrophic.

00:15:10.680 Imagine if this was like an economy, right?

00:15:13.000 And an economy shrunk by 60% in eight years.

00:15:17.060 This is the fertility equivalent of hyperinflation. 0.97

00:15:21.020 It is the fertility equivalent of having to walk around with wheelbarrows to buy a loaf of bread. 0.97

00:15:28.280 Wheelbarrows full of cash, you know, when you hear about these situations.

00:15:31.660 People do not understand the societal effects this is going to have.

00:15:35.960 And anyone who's in one of these groups that is going to be targeted because of this, like the LGBT 0.99

00:15:40.960 populations around the world, if you cannot fix this problem, if you cannot convince people who

00:15:47.660 are okay with gay people existing to have kids at an above replacement fertility rate, you will be 1.00

00:15:54.180 hunted down and systemically exterminated. 0.99

00:15:56.660 And we're beginning to see the first waves of this.

00:15:59.860 We are warning you because we don't want that to happen.

00:16:03.560 But it is the way this plays out if we cannot convince people who support you to stay around

00:16:10.620 in the world, okay?

00:16:12.580 That's the end game.

00:16:14.000 And we explain, one of my favorite quotes that I always mention is when the Guardian, when we

00:16:17.520 explain this to them and they're like, well, that sounds an awful lot like a threat.

00:16:20.580 And I'm like, yes, it is a threat.

00:16:21.920 If the threat in the same way is when I threaten my kid to not touch the stove or his hand is going

00:16:26.060 to be burned.

00:16:27.220 We told you this was going to happen. 0.80

00:16:28.760 We've been telling you this is going to happen for years.

00:16:32.760 It's going to be bad.

00:16:35.840 But, and this is a broader issue here.

00:16:39.320 We can say, well, will these China policies work?

00:16:41.620 I don't know how effective they'll be, but we can see predecessors of these policies in

00:16:45.620 Iran.

00:16:46.320 Because Iran has been having this problem a lot longer than China has.

00:16:49.280 And, you know, they have a theocratic state.

00:16:50.820 So they've been able to try a lot of these practices.

00:16:53.840 And they have ramped up the homophobia and stuff like that.

00:16:56.260 And they have seen a small increase in fertility rate, but it's not enough.

00:17:00.840 The core thing that they actually did was make it harder for women to get educated. 1.00

00:17:04.200 And that really increased their fertility rates.

00:17:06.320 You know, also not getting great.

00:17:08.660 But we are barreling head first to a handmaid's tail. 0.68

00:17:12.400 And the virus that is causing everyone to become sterile, the virus that is creating all this

00:17:17.640 is wokeness.

00:17:18.940 Well, and ironically, though, there's even more to it.

00:17:21.220 And I mentioned this on another podcast, but I was watching a YouTube video about something

00:17:25.420 unrelated in China.

00:17:26.460 And I saw footage of what people were eating for like a typical lunch.

00:17:29.980 And it was, in this case, like a soup out of a plastic bag within like a styrofoam cup

00:17:35.840 that was delivered.

00:17:36.460 And I'm just like, anyone who's like kind of sensitive to, you know, information about

00:17:42.420 like endocrine disruptors and like, you know, eating things out of plastic that has been

00:17:47.720 heated or anything like that, you know, just immediately freaks out.

00:17:51.020 And then I immediately thought to the ADV China videos that we used to watch back in the

00:17:55.260 day when they were still in China.

00:17:56.980 And the guys, it's Laowai-86 and then, who's the other guy, the South African?

00:18:03.440 Laowai-86.

00:18:04.760 And anyway, it's called China Fact Chasers today. 0.82

00:18:07.300 Yeah, they kept telling stories of, you know, personal encounters with adulterated food,

00:18:12.120 adulterated beverages.

00:18:13.740 And I'm also seeing in the actual like Handmaid's Tale show series, which I've only watched a couple

00:18:20.640 episodes of, frankly, so that I could understand what people are like comparing us to, is that

00:18:25.980 it's like pollutants, I think, that are causing people to become infertile.

00:18:29.460 So the reason that they start coercing some women to be handmaids is because like literally 0.54

00:18:33.280 they're the only ones who are capable of having kids.

00:18:36.380 And in China, I'm kind of like, okay, well, so they're going to get to a point where they've 0.65

00:18:40.080 exhausted all of the coercive methods and mechanisms they have, and they are still not

00:18:44.800 going to get women to have kids because of the amount of pollutants, both air pollutants 0.96

00:18:50.860 and like general like food adulteration problems that they actually have in the country.

00:18:57.080 So this isn't just a problem of like, you know, these people are going to struggle to

00:19:01.740 have kids because of cultural factors.

00:19:04.160 I like to tell you where I think they're going, forced insemination. 0.84

00:19:07.260 Yeah, but even forced insemination isn't going to help you a whole lot if your entire like

00:19:11.960 endocrine system, your entire reproductive system is not functioning properly.

00:19:14.920 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:19:16.000 So I'll discuss where China's going.

00:19:18.240 First, they're going to basically make people without children second-class citizens.

00:19:21.580 Okay.

00:19:22.520 And then?

00:19:23.100 In their tax policy and the way you get promoted within the CCP, if you don't have above a

00:19:26.820 certain number of children, you will be a second-class citizen and you will be treated 0.99

00:19:29.840 like human garbage. 1.00

00:19:30.840 So, okay, first they're going to- 0.99

00:19:31.600 Why are they doing that now?

00:19:32.100 Because it seems like that would actually be way more effective than a lot of, like right

00:19:34.760 now they're doing like matchmaking and like-

00:19:37.060 Because they haven't fully accepted how big the problem is yet.

00:19:40.000 You know, even a place like China takes a while.

00:19:41.640 But I mean, I would say that restricted access to birth control is like pretty big shots fired

00:19:45.980 vis-a-vis.

00:19:46.820 No, I mean, in the U.S. it would be, but given the scope of China's problem is 60% fertility 0.99

00:19:52.420 collapse.

00:19:52.820 That's actually pretty minor.

00:19:54.860 So next, they're going to realize that doesn't work because of all this biological stuff that

00:19:59.960 we're talking about.

00:20:00.580 They're going to realize that maybe only like one in three men can actually fertilize women 1.00

00:20:05.140 anymore.

00:20:05.780 And that's where forced insemination comes in because then they're going to be using other 0.73

00:20:09.900 men's sperm to inseminate people's wives because they're going to be like, well, you can't, 1.00

00:20:14.920 you can't get them pregnant anymore. 1.00

00:20:16.700 Keep in mind the fertility collapse while it's affecting both men and women, it's affecting

00:20:21.020 men more.

00:20:22.280 And so I think that a bunch of these men are going to be inferred.

00:20:24.860 You know, you talk about like these endocrine disruptors.

00:20:27.360 That means that men that are gestating right now in these women's bellies, the vast majority 0.99

00:20:32.880 of them, like in the U.S.

00:20:34.280 Like when you look at like raw nationalist predictions, which I think are probably right,

00:20:38.660 is by 2060, half of men in Europe and the United States will be infernal.

00:20:43.640 In China, I expect it to be closer to like 80%.

00:20:46.780 Given the type of behavior that you're talking about, like eating food out of heated plastic

00:20:53.000 bags and stuff like that.

00:20:54.840 And if that's the case, and keep in mind, we're talking about the next generation, the 0.93

00:20:57.820 generation that gestated in women doing these sorts of behaviors. 0.86

00:21:02.200 They are going to be this effeminate.

00:21:05.080 We've done videos on like the new sexualities and like femboids and stuff like that. 0.67

00:21:09.720 The Tide study shows really clearly this changes men into something other than men exactly.

00:21:16.260 They explain even like seven years afterwards, if they were exposed to these chemicals, more

00:21:21.880 female-like than male-like play behavior. 1.00

00:21:24.220 And I think that this is actually a huge component of the rise of the trans movement is it really

00:21:28.220 is a rise of trans individuals, of men who are not fully men.

00:21:31.820 At least the male-to-female trans movement. 0.87

00:21:34.340 I think the male trans movement, that's a different phenomenon.

00:21:37.520 But you can watch our videos on trans stuff to see what we actually think.

00:21:41.460 I think that like our women, what is it?

00:21:43.660 Like what makes someone a woman was one of the videos we did on that.

00:21:46.600 But anyway.

00:21:48.160 So what is your thought?

00:21:49.280 Like which of these solutions, do you think the China solutions are going to work?

00:21:52.260 How would you predict China ends up trying to tackle this?

00:21:54.480 Yeah, well, I mean, what you said actually about them switching over to status, which

00:21:59.680 I've heard no signs of.

00:22:01.540 I think that's a fairly astute prediction because I do think that in China where reputation

00:22:05.440 matters so much and social status is really important as well, that that can be fairly

00:22:11.500 effective and that they eventually will have to turn to that.

00:22:14.620 But I also I can see it maybe being something that actually they wait too long to do because

00:22:19.960 I think a lot of people who are probably very high up in the CCP themselves have zero to

00:22:26.040 one kids.

00:22:26.920 So there would have to be some kind of grandfather clause, right?

00:22:29.480 Because but then, you know, it makes it a more effectless policy.

00:22:32.860 So I'm just saying like a question.

00:22:34.540 I think that that's a very effective way to go.

00:22:36.000 I think, you know, changing social status to to coerce or inspire people to have kids

00:22:42.980 will be effective.

00:22:43.960 And I think that like tax policies can totally be effective, like where you have huge tax breaks

00:22:49.440 or you pay higher tax if you don't have kids.

00:22:51.980 But I just.

00:22:53.820 Well, then there's the other thing, which is which is worth considering, which I think

00:22:56.960 people like when we go to France, right?

00:22:59.220 And like like people are like, oh, who are like your when your family is building alliance

00:23:04.420 in France?

00:23:05.100 Like, who's your best French friend?

00:23:07.340 You know, I'm not going to call out her name here, but, you know, she's a Muslim and

00:23:11.420 she's a first.

00:23:12.560 I don't know.

00:23:13.080 I think she's like a second or third generation immigrant, but from Guinea.

00:23:15.980 No, no.

00:23:16.260 She first generation immigrant from Guinea.

00:23:17.520 And they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, your best friend in France is a Muslim

00:23:22.260 immigrant.

00:23:23.600 And and they're like, who's your friend in the UK?

00:23:25.960 Your best friend in the UK.

00:23:27.200 I go, oh, she's a second generation Hindi immigrant. 0.95

00:23:29.960 They're like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:23:30.960 Why aren't you like focused on building alliances with like British people?

00:23:34.960 I'm like, because they're not going to exist in 100 years.

00:23:37.360 Like we are like you can say that people are like, oh, so you must be like a weird sort

00:23:44.900 of great replacement theorist where you're like, OK, yeah, but we're just for no, not

00:23:48.640 at all.

00:23:49.320 The Muslims are not the reasons why French people are going extinct.

00:23:53.680 And and Indian immigrants to the UK are not the reason why white people in the UK aren't 0.86

00:23:59.580 having kids.

00:24:00.800 That's all on them.

00:24:01.960 They just decided to erase themselves.

00:24:04.820 You know, I can't do anything about that.

00:24:08.020 But I need to be realistic when it comes to what alliances are important for my family

00:24:13.660 to build and alliances with white Europeans, basically pointless from an intergenerational

00:24:20.960 perspective, because when I say white Europeans, I mean like native whatever Europeans, their

00:24:26.040 fertility rates are low.

00:24:27.240 There's nothing you can really do to stop it at this point.

00:24:29.380 And I think like we talk about China where I think the CCP will eventually find a way

00:24:33.860 to stabilize their fertility.

00:24:35.560 Do I think France will eventually find a way to stabilize their fertility?

00:24:39.800 Yeah.

00:24:40.360 When it's a Muslim country. 1.00

00:24:42.100 Do I see that as a bad thing?

00:24:43.400 No.

00:24:43.800 Like there's a reason why our family's religion incorporates a lot of part of Islam, you know,

00:24:48.340 and is like and I have a lot of Muslim friends and there's a lot of Muslim first generation

00:24:52.500 immigrants in the pro natalist movement who were working to keep them from having their

00:24:56.060 culture, they would say assimilated.

00:24:58.080 What they really mean is cultural genocide, right? 0.97

00:25:00.400 When somebody says, I want to assimilate Muslims, I mean, I want to erase every part of their 1.00

00:25:04.560 culture that goes against the urban monoculture. 0.58

00:25:06.200 They're not assimilating them to Christian conservative traditions.

00:25:09.440 And so I don't actually think personally, I don't think that Europe, the European people who 1.00

00:25:14.740 are complaining about Muslims are not really complaining about Muslims.

00:25:18.620 They are complaining about highly uneducated, impoverished refugee populations. 1.00

00:25:25.140 And I don't think that there would be any difference in the damage that they're seeing

00:25:30.260 if those highly uneducated, impoverished refugee populations.

00:25:34.200 Oh, yeah.

00:25:34.460 This is a huge problem for socialist economies.

00:25:36.560 And I agree with that.

00:25:37.560 And I think that the key way to fix this is to stop giving immigrants access to your social 1.00

00:25:43.580 services. 1.00

00:25:44.000 That's stupid and insane. 1.00

00:25:45.480 Why would you do that? 1.00

00:25:46.660 But like it's genuinely insane.

00:25:49.040 Why would you give a first generation immigrant access to your social services? 0.93

00:25:52.460 You're creating a really bad incentive structure there.

00:25:54.700 I know, but we're ones to talk, though, because like we believe like in any sort of governance

00:25:59.820 design, those you should only get benefits to the extent that you're contributing.

00:26:04.740 So anyone like and if you can if you are taking from the state more than you give, you have

00:26:09.280 no voice and you should have no voice.

00:26:11.040 But I mean, I want to I want to make a side here, which which is the point that we're making.

00:26:15.380 And it's important that, you know, this is this is clear, is that these countries, because 0.97

00:26:19.220 of this stupid incentive system they have, do disproportionately draw lower quality immigrants 1.00

00:26:24.800 than you're going to get in the US. 0.99

00:26:26.080 And when I say lower quality, what I mean is that they are much more likely to live off of

00:26:29.500 the state.

00:26:30.020 They're much less likely to contribute economically to the state.

00:26:32.580 And and so like like in an objective standpoint, I'm talking from an economic standpoint.

00:26:37.040 Right.

00:26:37.860 But this does not mean that these countries don't also have an elite population of immigrants

00:26:43.860 that are Muslim as well.

00:26:45.080 Like Muslims are a very divorced population group. 1.00

00:26:48.140 And there is an educated elite among Muslim populations, which is also higher fertility than

00:26:55.280 a lot of these native populations.

00:26:56.500 And that Muslim communities actually, in my at least in my experience, do a better job

00:27:04.220 of elevating their elite than other communities.

00:27:06.960 And they are much more comfortable serving the elite within the community.

00:27:10.460 So you don't need a high quality average within Muslim majority populations as much as you 1.00

00:27:16.820 do within non-Muslim majority populations.

00:27:18.900 By that, what I mean is they're much less enamored with things like democracy.

00:27:25.120 And they're more extremely meritocratic, you're saying?

00:27:28.380 I wouldn't call it meritocratic, but I'd call it monarchistic or autocratic in a way where

00:27:34.500 they understand that it's generally better to have the best of them running everything

00:27:41.040 and making all the decisions and not leading things to boats.

00:27:43.800 Yeah, and I guess you say not meritocratic because you're saying the best of them as

00:27:47.780 defined by their culture, which you view as a little bit not what you...

00:27:50.920 Yeah, yeah, internal culture heuristics, but it is kind of more meritocratic.

00:27:55.040 It's like meritocratic...

00:27:56.700 Meritocratic by their terms.

00:27:58.900 Combined with autocratic, yeah.

00:28:00.920 Which, again, I guess this is like a horribly offensive thing to say, but it's like if you

00:28:05.620 understand and hang out with Muslims, it's objectively true.

00:28:08.160 And it's not like a bad system in groups where you have like lower average economic productivity

00:28:14.860 in these larger immigrant populations.

00:28:17.700 And again, I'm not saying that there are lower average economic productivity.

00:28:20.580 I'm saying specifically the individuals who are being drawn to these socialist economies,

00:28:24.600 which are paying their way once they come.

00:28:28.180 Obviously, the people who are going to be disproportionately drawn to that are the people who are lower economic

00:28:32.420 productivity.

00:28:32.860 Maybe someone who's watching this can also help us understand this when it comes to meritocracy.

00:28:38.900 You, when speaking with a journalist at one point recently, had said something like, you

00:28:43.620 know, I believe that rather than being judged by the color of their skin, people should be

00:28:48.220 judged by like their meritocratic contributions and values by their abilities.

00:28:53.800 And the journalist was like, hey, can you please repeat that?

00:28:57.320 Like, as if like, are you sure you want to say that?

00:28:59.760 This was the journalist who was very hostile to us.

00:29:01.960 Yeah.

00:29:03.380 Can someone explain to us if this is...

00:29:06.180 I have this radical belief.

00:29:07.860 I have this radically conservative belief.

00:29:09.760 And I know that this in our modern system is racist and horribly racist.

00:29:14.880 But I have this weird dream that people should be judged by the content of their character

00:29:20.540 and not the color of their skin.

00:29:22.380 Now, I know this is racist to say that. 0.96

00:29:25.320 I know anyone who has ever said this must be a virulent, evil racist.

00:29:29.840 But to me, it's a dream that I've always had for the future of America, a country where

00:29:35.940 we can judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.

00:29:40.780 And that might have been a part of it.

00:29:41.560 But is this like really considered, like, I would love for anyone to like, be like, here's

00:29:47.440 why someone would hear that and, you know, ask you if you want to correct your statement

00:29:53.960 for fear of you being completely destroyed by this ruinous comment you just made.

00:29:59.860 Because maybe there's something we're missing here.

00:30:02.080 And we would love to understand that.

00:30:04.280 Yeah.

00:30:04.720 Well, I love it. 0.94

00:30:05.640 Like, pro-natalist racist.

00:30:06.960 Because they believe in judging people by their meritocratic worth and the content of

00:30:13.780 their character and not anything else.

00:30:15.760 And that is clearly an attack on X and Y group.

00:30:21.240 And I'm like, if that, if you think that that's clearly an attack on X and Y group, then by

00:30:25.120 our standards, you have a pretty racist opinion of X and Y group.

00:30:29.560 Okay.

00:30:30.600 Because I believe that there are excellent people within all populations.

00:30:34.020 And you see this within the data, and we've posted this statistic before, but it just

00:30:37.480 shocks me.

00:30:38.320 If you look within the United States, if you look at populations by what percent are they

00:30:43.340 conservative versus what percent are they Democrat, and you look at Blacks and Hispanics

00:30:47.340 within these populations, if you look at the difference between their test scores and

00:30:51.720 white individuals within these populations' test scores, they are lower in the Republican

00:30:57.560 controlled districts than they are in the Democrat controlled districts.

00:31:00.820 So Democrat policies, these policies that are supposed to be helping.

00:31:04.020 These groups are really intergenerationally disempowering them.

00:31:09.880 And I think through that, creating a permanent underclass and a permanent ethno underclass that 0.88

00:31:17.420 the Democrats can use as a safe voting block because they prevent these individuals from

00:31:22.800 actually educating themselves and learning that the Democrats are not their friends, learning

00:31:26.860 that the data shows they're not their friends, learning that the data shows and the statistics

00:31:30.600 I'll tell you until the end of the earth, 538 poll, Nate Silver, you know, very middle

00:31:34.620 of the line, that until Obama was elected, more white Democrats than white Republicans said

00:31:39.060 they would not vote for a Black president. 0.89

00:31:41.200 Democrats are not like undercover racists. 1.00

00:31:44.340 They are actually super, super racist. 0.93

00:31:47.660 Well, and you remember that research that I shared with you.

00:31:50.380 And I'm going to post another graph of how left-leaning media sources are these days, which, you know,

00:31:56.300 will show you that they control pretty much all of the media that you are consuming unless

00:32:00.140 you watch Breitbart.

00:32:01.300 And you'll remember the research I shared with you as well that showed that, we'll say,

00:32:05.700 non-white populations, Black, Hispanics, et cetera, fared better.

00:32:09.480 And maybe there's certainly a selection bias at taking place here, but that lived in Republican

00:32:15.580 districts, Republican dominated districts had, I think, better economic and other like social

00:32:20.940 outcomes, like test scores and stuff.

00:32:23.380 Yeah.

00:32:23.780 Minority groups living in Democratic majority areas.

00:32:29.060 So it, it just, it really does seem like after you see research like that, it seems awfully

00:32:34.640 suspicious and it seems an awful lot like minority groups in those areas are being intentionally 0.98

00:32:42.460 suppressed and, and kept down in a way that makes them dependent on, especially a lot of

00:32:49.480 like the, at least the promise of state services.

00:32:51.580 That's the goal.

00:32:52.820 They keep them economically disempowered and uneducated so that they can use them as a safe

00:32:57.420 voting block without realizing that the Democrats have always been the party of the Klan.

00:33:02.880 It never changed.

00:33:04.020 The party's never fully switched.

00:33:05.800 There were switches within some policy positions, but they just changed the names of a few things 0.97

00:33:11.400 and now the Klan is called Antifa, but they are just as evil and just as racist as they 0.94

00:33:16.360 have ever been.

00:33:17.600 And they rely on keeping these groups economically disempowered while promoting token individuals 0.83

00:33:23.640 within these groups to positions of authority.

00:33:26.240 And you can be like, well, that doesn't sound right.

00:33:28.060 That's what the slave owners did. 1.00

00:33:29.900 Yeah.

00:33:30.600 Like, I'm sorry.

00:33:31.940 It disgusts me. 0.66

00:33:32.620 It disgusts me that I see this still going on in our country and, and that these racist

00:33:38.040 groups have thrived by changing racism to quote unquote, anti-racism, even though it has much

00:33:44.900 of the same effects.

00:33:46.400 It's bad.

00:33:48.000 It's really bad.

00:33:49.640 Yeah.

00:33:49.820 But so what do you think in game France, China?

00:33:55.080 I mean, yeah, I, I, China's going to figure it out. 0.52

00:33:57.160 I would say that China is, is a country with thousands of years of rises and falls, you know,

00:34:05.300 like it just, it's a cycle and it will find its way, but it may be very different.

00:34:10.660 Would you think there's any hope for France?

00:34:15.940 I don't know enough about France to know if they're a weird minority group, like weird 1.00

00:34:20.720 Amish, like high fertility, isolated, very culturally hard groups in France.

00:34:28.720 If there are, then for sure there's hope, but also I feel like there's a collection of families

00:34:35.140 in France that develops a, an intergenerationally durable culture, which is well described in

00:34:41.820 your book, the private is guide to crafting religion can totally change the trajectory

00:34:46.560 here.

00:34:46.960 Like if you had, you know, 30 families in France, you know, I more would be great, but

00:34:53.620 like just 30 families be like, you know what?

00:34:57.180 We're going to go for this.

00:34:58.580 We're all going to have a lot of kids.

00:34:59.800 We're going to give our kids an amazing childhood and amazing education.

00:35:02.440 We're going to empower them and we're going to inspire them to pass on this culture and

00:35:05.860 have a lot of kids.

00:35:06.940 Totally.

00:35:07.320 French culture could be protected.

00:35:08.620 Totally.

00:35:09.120 French culture can be not only protected, but like made extra augmented brought back to a 0.99

00:35:14.980 lot of what it was.

00:35:15.520 A lot of French culture has already been lost and this is, you know, definitely a sore point 1.00

00:35:19.540 in France and it has been for a very long time.

00:35:22.300 France used to be, you know, the cultural reactor core of Europe and to a great extent,

00:35:28.820 the rest of the world, it used to be way more influential.

00:35:31.840 I think that there's a huge opportunity to make France great again, but also, yeah, totally

00:35:37.300 from a demographic standpoint for like various French ethnicities and cultural niches to be

00:35:42.820 represented in the future.

00:35:43.820 All of that depends on a sufficient number of families, doesn't have to be a lot of them

00:35:48.740 and only those who are into this, building an intergenerational durable culture.

00:35:53.300 So for China, I'm like, yeah, they're going to figure it out.

00:35:55.900 For France, it really comes down to the acts of a very small number of people.

00:36:00.200 And that is not something we can predict.

00:36:03.040 It really depends on them.

00:36:04.260 Does that make sense?

00:36:05.600 That makes sense.

00:36:06.340 I also think to an extent there's a reason for cultural alliances here, which France

00:36:10.840 needs to be more intentional about, but the UK has done pretty well.

00:36:14.480 So I'll explain what I mean by this.

00:36:16.680 We, the reason why we think diversity has value is we think that different cultural groups

00:36:21.080 are actually different from each other.

00:36:23.120 Like diversity would have no value if we were all actually the same.

00:36:27.180 Some cultural groups are much more like other cultural groups than other cultural groups

00:36:32.060 are, right?

00:36:33.260 The, if you look at like, for example, Hindi immigrants in the UK, the Hindis culturally,

00:36:39.860 the ones that are immigrating, which are mostly Brahmins and stuff like that, they are, well, 1.00

00:36:44.620 obviously you have some other population groups, but Hindis are just British people.

00:36:47.500 Like very, very, very close culturally.

00:36:50.920 Like ethnically, they might be different, but me as an outsider, when I said that Persians

00:36:55.480 are basically Americans with like slightly more audacious aesthetic sense that is actually

00:37:01.520 very aligned with Trump's, you know, they're very entrepreneurial.

00:37:04.420 They're very frontier-y traditionalist, but in sort of like an American, like put a spin

00:37:09.040 on it way.

00:37:11.080 With Hindi, they're very similar to UK people. 0.88

00:37:14.340 They're very sort of like play it by the books, play it by the numbers, you know, stiff

00:37:18.900 upper lip.

00:37:20.180 Let's push through this.

00:37:21.700 Let's not, let's not do anything crazy here.

00:37:24.500 Let's all stay in a queue.

00:37:25.760 So I think like a UK, even if their population is replaced by Hindi, I don't think you've

00:37:30.900 lost the UK at all.

00:37:32.360 Now, I don't think that this will happen because the Hindi fertility rate is quite low now, which

00:37:35.920 is a shame to me because, you know, they could work together better in terms of who they're

00:37:39.800 importing.

00:37:40.500 But I really hate this idea of cultural assimilation.

00:37:42.900 I believe instead you should import cultural groups that are similar and that are able to

00:37:48.900 work alongside yours really efficiently.

00:37:51.100 And I think British people, Hindi people, these two groups go together swimmingly in

00:37:55.560 terms of working together.

00:37:56.760 They've been doing it.

00:37:57.380 Well, and this is not, we should say, this is not a conservative view that the strength

00:38:03.480 of diversity comes from diverse groups staying diverse, which is to say, leaning into their

00:38:09.320 cultural and other uniqueness.

00:38:11.240 I was just reading an article that pointed out that for one of the Olympics recently, President

00:38:16.100 Obama, I think when he was still president, was remarking at just how successful the American

00:38:22.560 Olympic team was thanks to its diversity.

00:38:24.880 And he compared like Michael Phelps to Simone Biles.

00:38:28.560 Like these are two wildly different people, wildly different body types and wildly different

00:38:33.660 abilities.

00:38:34.060 As a result, we would not be able to kill it at the Olympics if we didn't have this level

00:38:38.860 of genetic diversity.

00:38:40.820 So, you know, I mean, one, it's now.

00:38:42.560 That's pretty offensive, Simone, to say that Simone Biles couldn't do what Michael Phelps

00:38:46.060 does and vice versa.

00:38:47.440 Even if Michael Phelps does like basically giant paddles for feet and is like forever

00:38:53.160 long.

00:38:54.580 No, he has like a weird thing was like his heart or metabolic or metabolic structure.

00:38:59.080 There are a bunch of very genetically unique things about it.

00:39:01.240 And Simone Biles is like a superhuman. 1.00

00:39:03.580 She's insane. 0.98

00:39:04.840 Like her abilities is unbelievable.

00:39:07.600 But again, like so even even progressive leaders recognize that diversity is meaningful

00:39:14.060 and amazing and cool and provides a huge competitive advantage.

00:39:17.400 So I just want to point out again, even though this is the prenatalism is so coded conservative

00:39:23.020 and that's totally fine by us, whatever it is.

00:39:26.020 It is a universal issue.

00:39:27.520 Well, I was caring about diversity these days, like Obama might do it, but he couldn't do that

00:39:31.920 when running for an election.

00:39:33.000 Admit that Michael Phelps could not do what Simone Biles did if he was raised in her circumstances.

00:39:38.400 I think that's a recent thing, though.

00:39:39.580 I think when he was in office, people were allowed to acknowledge genetic diversity.

00:39:46.760 It's something we are like we are totally going off the rails.

00:39:49.080 We are losing our minds here.

00:39:51.040 But anyway, I know you have to run.

00:39:53.340 I regret that because I treasure every second with you.

00:39:56.660 I love you so much, Malcolm.

00:39:58.120 You are amazing.

00:39:59.100 You are an amazing human being.

00:40:00.780 Not as amazing as you.

00:40:01.760 I can't I still can't believe you're human.

00:40:04.260 You're the best thing ever.

00:40:05.680 I love you so much, Malcolm.

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