Based Camp - France is Boned ... But How Boned？

00:00:00.000 hello simone today we are going to be talking about just how cooked france is just for some

00:00:07.300 statistics that people might be surprised about is in france your average pensioner makes more

00:00:13.600 money in terms of like cost of living adjusted money than your average worker in the country

00:00:18.240 in france 57 sorry 57 percent of people are net beneficiaries of the government 43 percent pay

00:00:28.200 into the government is already past the point and i said this is a point where democracies begin to

00:00:34.160 break down where the average citizen is being paid by the government to exist and we're going to look

00:00:41.240 at where this has led to downstream collapse just a second here also very fun what i love about diving

00:00:47.880 into france and we've had episodes diving into the uk and diving into germany and now we're diving into

00:00:51.400 france is each country is completely cooked in like its own way it's almost like europe got to be 0.90

00:00:59.360 like the captain planet of evil and country vices and you know the uk is like i'll arrest people for

00:01:07.140 memes you know like there was a guy who was arrested in scotland for literally painting islam can be

00:01:12.200 questioned on his wall and then the police were like no it cannot the girl who who we're not gonna

00:01:18.360 go into that you can you can go to our video where we point out that the only reason a country would

00:01:22.360 ban the flying of its own flag is if it was under occupation there is no other reason to ban the

00:01:28.360 flying of your own country's flag because presumably you do that in support of your government right

00:01:33.720 if the government sees that as an attack on them and this usually happens under occupation like france

00:01:38.140 under occupation you ban it so the uk has got its draconian speech laws and and and all of that

00:01:44.160 then in germany you have like a secret police force of like brown shorts that literally label

00:01:52.320 mainstream political parties as terrorist organizations and monitor and harass mainstream

00:01:59.040 like people who are to the left of like the united states president or us for example as being uh 0.95

00:02:06.840 political mind you this is a political party the afd that is run by a lesbian in an interracial 1.00

00:02:14.140 relationship so yeah not exactly that extreme right then we get to france right and what is their 0.99

00:02:22.420 nature of terribleness they're actually pretty good about not arresting people for stupid things

00:02:27.420 and they're actually pretty good about not like spying on the quote-unquote far-right party which 0.92

00:02:31.700 we'll go into like le pen's party or bullying them but they have the curse of the french which 1.00

00:02:38.700 the problem with france is that it's full of french people and french people have completely unrealistic 1.00

00:02:46.080 expectations around what to expect and they are treating like if you if you watch and what we'll go

00:02:54.100 into a bit is this recent charade of you know france's current prime minister macron constantly trying

00:03:00.780 to get the retirement age raised from 62 to 64 now 64 would be a very young retirement age globally

00:03:08.480 speaking and yeah what let's see what it is it in the usa it is 67 for social security yeah so the

00:03:17.620 point being is he wants to raise it a a moderate amount and we'll go into the data here but like

00:03:22.240 anyone could tell you that the system's going to be insolvent in just like a decade and a half

00:03:25.940 if they don't raise it and literally this is what keeps breaking the government and when i say break

00:03:31.420 i mean literally they've been through like four sitting whatever's like head of the governments

00:03:35.440 in like the past few years because they keep having to like step down ministers right yeah because france

00:03:41.620 is a president and a prime minister and it's they're they're churning through prime ministers we'll get

00:03:46.240 to it yeah and and the core reason is and the core reason that everything about macron's blew up even

00:03:51.360 though he tried to side with the lefties is just over this retirement age thing and what makes this

00:03:57.800 so funny to me is the system won't even exist in like a decade and a half if they don't make this

00:04:04.860 change right and this change i feel like even if they do two years doesn't seem to increase its

00:04:11.340 lifespan by one decade maybe if they do it immediately and so they're not even like arguing for like this

00:04:17.220 being a permanent thing they are arguing for a thing they would hypothetically want if money grew

00:04:22.920 on trees but like you go to the french people and you're like here is the data money doesn't grow on 0.72

00:04:29.520 trees and they're like ah whatever so let's get into this so right now in in in france retirees per

00:04:40.580 workers so we're not even talking about dependents right i talked about they were already past the

00:04:44.580 dependency ratio with 57 of the population taking its money from the state not giving to the state

00:04:48.300 yeah for 43 of french is already retirees gosh that's going to be 55 by 2070 and keep in mind

00:04:59.900 their birth rate fell 20 in the past 10 years so yeah this is only going to get worse are there many

00:05:06.600 developed countries that have that proportion of old people or is this is france is actually one of

00:05:12.700 the best countries in europe for demographics they have one of the highest uh fertility rates

00:05:18.340 in all fertility rates yeah but still proportion of old people i mean like i thought most countries

00:05:22.980 hadn't gotten to that point of being most countries don't have most countries don't have a retirement age

00:05:29.860 at 62. yeah that is really young okay so france actually has like if you're talking like fertility

00:05:37.440 rates wise france is great but if you want to know why france is great despite being a catholic

00:05:41.600 country because that's unusual for catholic countries is it actually secularized way earlier

00:05:45.920 than other countries in europe and as we have pointed out collapsing fertility rates is largely

00:05:50.960 about the urban monocultural belief system and the longer you have been exposed to that the more

00:05:56.600 resistance you've been able to culturally and perhaps even genetically evolve to its lures

00:06:01.260 and france has about a hundred years on most other european countries because they underwent their

00:06:06.460 first fertility collapse about a hundred years before for example the uk did which is why france

00:06:11.720 i would argue has such robust fertility numbers in its native population but it but it doesn't matter 0.95

00:06:18.300 because they're completely unreasonable i i should note here by the way and people can ask you know

00:06:23.780 if i'm speaking derisively about for people know like one of the jokes on the show is like i don't

00:06:28.900 like really like french people very much like the country very much you know i make jokes on that and people

00:06:34.220 are like why why do you feel this way have you been to france simone

00:06:38.120 multiple times yes yeah yeah i've been there multiple times too and i have never been to anywhere

00:06:46.280 on earth and i'm not even talking about by like a margin like nowhere comes close to being treated

00:06:53.220 with as much rudeness and derision as i was treated for no reason and and people can be like well it's a

00:07:01.700 cultural difference and i'm like fine then i don't like that culture right like and people in europe 0.99

00:07:07.200 they talk about this like i know french people when they come to the u.s and they're like everyone is

00:07:10.520 so nice and inauthentic and i'm like no that's not inauthentic you don't have to like like somebody to

00:07:16.560 treat them with basic human dignity right like you you don't need to like if you're if you're doing

00:07:22.060 your job and they're not like actively resisting you right it doesn't cost you anything to smile

00:07:27.860 and try to make the day of like a random other person who you don't know anything about

00:07:32.320 marginally better and did you did you have this experience in france as well or is this unique to

00:07:37.180 me i can't say i interacted a lot with people because i generally avoid people whether i'm

00:07:43.240 traveling or not yeah so i guess i don't really care and if they leave me alone i'm pretty happy about

00:07:49.540 it yeah also it was a constant i mean this is not unique to france it also happened when i'm traveling

00:07:55.740 in italy but the constant harassment of young women walking around is also really gets to me but again 0.84

00:08:01.120 this is just where i'm culturally different right and and people can be like well you know different

00:08:05.340 cultures be different right and and that's true around the world and i'm just like from my cultural

00:08:10.080 perspective i think that you should you know give other people that you meet randomly the benefit of the

00:08:15.380 and be nice to them and people will be like well that's just paris or whatever right and it's like

00:08:20.260 okay great maybe it is just paris but like we go to manhattan all the time and people in manhattan

00:08:25.500 are perfectly nice to strangers like and manhattan no well manhattan's known as being one of the less

00:08:31.840 nice places in the united states and it's still fairly nice the only city i go to in the u.s

00:08:36.640 where i like regularly see people be mean to people out of nowhere is san francisco but that's mostly

00:08:41.600 because they're on like drugs or clearly mentally ill and that's more just like random attack 0.62

00:08:48.180 homeless i'll call them the the attack homeless that san francisco has has cultivated and pushed

00:08:53.880 into its its most dense tourist zones but anyway so to continue here deficits are already emerging

00:09:01.240 post-2023 reform cor estimates 1.7 billion deficit by 2025 potentially rising to 6.6 billion by 2030

00:09:09.000 even with the retirement age hike pension spending holds at around 13.7 of gdp until 2030 but could

00:09:17.580 climb of gross lows september 2025 financial times reports based on luxembourg income study data

00:09:24.100 highlighted that retirees ever 65 now have a higher standard of living and disposable income relative

00:09:29.540 to working age adults however this isn't because raw pensions exceed full-time salary so let's talk

00:09:34.800 over a bit how this works yeah i'm curious so they have a median standard of living when you when you

00:09:41.680 cost adjust of 2310 euros a month per household versus for workers 2110 and and 10 so slightly higher

00:09:52.840 2010 versus 2010 did you get those numbers right they're the same 2.3 000 versus 2.1 000 oh okay so

00:10:00.620 basically a 200 euro difference yeah but the the reason for this is they have fewer fewer dependents

00:10:07.640 they have lower taxes because people have lower taxes yeah but they often have supplementary income

00:10:12.960 from like assets they've built up over their house like houses or whatever but still that's that's

00:10:18.100 absolutely wild that is in in terms of like what france is paying on immigrants france actually has a

00:10:25.880 significantly better immigrant situation than most of europe i think despite most people's perception

00:10:31.380 i think it's maybe they just concentrate in paris because i see a ton of youtube videos on just

00:10:36.280 yeah paris being completely different now than it was five or ten years ago well trump even said this

00:10:43.180 right he got in trouble for saying it but he goes oh paris is like a dirt place to live now nobody wants to

00:10:47.820 be there anymore and this is a situation we're having all around the world i'll note like

00:10:52.320 manhattan for example is a garbage city today compared to 15 years ago it is not the same even

00:10:59.660 five six years ago it's not the same and it's just empty and and boarded up and and you see this 0.88

00:11:05.740 again it's not just france there's many places in in the uk you can go through where you know it is

00:11:10.780 it's clear that you are not welcome there based on your ethnicity and it's it's a very uncomfortable

00:11:18.160 thing especially if those those neighborhoods were important to you growing up or or you know you saw

00:11:23.340 maybe were important to you at some point in your life but the funny thing is is like all of my best

00:11:29.800 french friends because i actually have like a collection of like french friends i'm pretty tight

00:11:33.560 with are immigrants i mean they are immigrants to france yeah they're they're african immigrants to

00:11:40.700 france like when i go to france i stayed uh at at their house and this is you know all all black family

00:11:47.520 all you know whiter black community and that's where i was hanging out and they were all way nicer

00:11:52.860 to me than any of the french people i've met so so like this is my thing where i might have a bit

00:11:58.320 more ambivalence than than other countries to to what is happening in in france right now but france

00:12:04.740 actually doesn't have as bad of an immigrant situation as either in terms of how they influence

00:12:08.940 policies as you see in the uk or in terms to just their sheer percentage of the population

00:12:13.900 as you have in germany but their immigrant situation is bad in another way which is that 1.00

00:12:21.120 immigrants in france are a net tax drain unlike a lot of other countries like in the united states 0.98

00:12:27.580 the immigrants are generally argued to be a net tax benefit but in france so this is from

00:12:33.380 le figaro nicholas parevo monte concludes that immigration represents a gdp loss in france of 3.4

00:12:41.420 per year keep in mind they're only spending 13 like 0.4 on retirees wow so if if you if you

00:12:49.180 what is it if immigrants had the same employment rate as natives the national wealth generated each

00:12:54.780 year would be 3.4 higher and tax revenues would be 1.5 percentage points higher as well

00:12:59.740 he says quote this loss in gross and this cost to the taxpayer contribute to high tax burdens on

00:13:05.920 businesses which in turn hampers the entire economy in other words encouraging immigration to fill 1.00

00:13:11.000 shortages in the few strain sectors amounts to sacrifice and gross in all of our sectors so

00:13:17.020 france again even though it's got like the fertility rate problem it's very bad at setting up a system

00:13:22.860 that selects for productive immigrant populations and if they could you know then immigrant and this

00:13:29.120 is the thing like immigrants like it's not a like falling fertility rates and falling demographics is not

00:13:34.120 a warm body problem it's a taxpayer problem if you are taking people into your country who are 1.00

00:13:39.540 tax drains that's going to hurt your country yeah and again people they'd like to frame that as

00:13:47.360 oh these pronatalists only want certain types of people to reproduce that is such a terrible

00:13:53.160 misrepresentation when what we're talking about is the ability to maintain social services for

00:13:58.520 society's most vulnerable people when you are bringing in non-net tax-paying immigrants or any 1.00

00:14:04.320 citizen that is not a net taxpayer you are actively throwing the vulnerable people already in that

00:14:10.840 country under the bus you're saying i don't care about them anymore let's accelerate their lives

00:14:15.540 explodes who cares you know this is and i i will note my wider stance on immigration and i think it's

00:14:21.320 something so so i have a few points here i think immigration in europe is very different than

00:14:25.440 immigration in the united states the united states is dealing with a majority latin american immigrant

00:14:30.680 population which is culturally not that dissimilar from the native population in fact every single

00:14:37.140 one of the vices that people associate with the latin american immigrant wave that the united states

00:14:42.260 is dealing with right now are vices that we complained about in equal amounts during past catholic

00:14:48.440 majority immigrant waves when the irish came you had the irish mob you had all the the terrible crime 1.00

00:14:53.260 waves and everything like that when the italians came you had the italian mafia you know this is this is 0.90

00:14:58.500 just a catholic immigrant wave thing we have different episodes on why you see organized

00:15:04.040 crime in catholic populations more it was specifically catholic immigrant populations more

00:15:08.020 because it's not unique to catholic you also see it in eastern orthodox communities which you have the

00:15:12.360 russian mob as well where you don't see them importing their their criminal organizations very

00:15:17.320 effectively if they're from other cultural groups like for example like like the the japanese and chinese

00:15:22.180 have big organized crime waves within their country but they didn't import them in the the degree to

00:15:27.840 which like ms-16 or the mafia or the mob yeah i've not heard of being united states yeah so so the the

00:15:35.580 the the wider point i was i was making here is that the united states can more easily adapt and

00:15:42.900 integrate its integrate population i mean as we saw over 50 percent of hispanic males voted for trump

00:15:47.460 right like they're adapting pretty quickly but and i think that we have less of a moral argument

00:15:53.580 against immigration than other countries given that you know we all did come here at some point

00:16:00.420 right to a country that was dissimilar from us cultural history like it is a nation of immigrants 0.99

00:16:06.380 i do love though you kind of get the tone that i mean theming with france and their immigrants and

00:16:11.240 apparently them bringing in net drains and the statue of liberty's slogan of like bring me you're tired

00:16:15.980 you're like yeah masses in china i'm sorry france giving us that statue and being like

00:16:22.740 send the trash over it's in the trash over here yeah yeah go to america guys but then they they keep

00:16:29.420 bringing in their own right but it's a passive aggressive thing i don't know i think that they have less

00:16:35.940 of a you know it's literally like their native land and country right like if a group wants to say

00:16:43.580 i'm uncomfortable with letting unchecked immigration into my native lands that i think should be treated 1.00

00:16:50.220 very differently and to me is it for the united states but yeah literally you have indigenous peoples

00:16:55.200 in france the french are the indigenous people the indigenous people yeah and i'd point out in america

00:17:03.340 like the waves of immigrants weren't awesome for the indigenous population yeah not not a lot we can do 1.00

00:17:10.880 to reverse the situation right now but the the point i'm making is in and you could be like well

00:17:16.900 you could give reparations and it's like actually that would only make things worse in the indigenous 1.00

00:17:20.240 communities in the u.s where they do have really high amounts that come from like casinos and stuff

00:17:24.780 like this and we'll do a separate episode on this you have like really high rates of like drug addiction

00:17:29.080 and lack of education and poverty just in part because of this look at any of our episodes on ubi like

00:17:34.900 giving out reparations seriously disadvantages the populations that receive the reparations

00:17:39.800 intergenerationally that's a whole other thing uh the point being is is i will say that france does

00:17:45.960 though and they'll say like well we take immigrants because they're from countries that we previously

00:17:51.740 colonized often right like and maybe i understand like the logic there but to me it's not like that's

00:17:57.560 they still have the right to say i want to sort of i don't know because doesn't isn't it the case that

00:18:01.520 with the english colonialism the countries did really well french colonialism they didn't so france

00:18:07.060 the french were garbage colonialists i know so they kind of owe them they kind of owe them if 1.00

00:18:11.660 they screwed up their countries yeah like the british really don't have that much to be embarrassed 0.99

00:18:16.560 about colonialism oh yeah they can be like no man like you're welcome we we made you better off 0.70

00:18:23.680 the french the the yeah and and people can be like oh well what about these atrocities and it's

00:18:30.040 like even if you account for the atrocities the england spent like half a century paying for a giant

00:18:35.320 fleet just to stop other countries from doing slavery right like nobody had done that sort of

00:18:41.540 international moral policing at that point that was like a completely new idea like let's take a

00:18:46.040 portion of our national budget and just police everyone else's slaving routes right like britain 0.90

00:18:52.700 really has nothing to be embarrassed about in regards to that stuff but anyway i should i should continue

00:18:58.060 here so recent analysis including adaptations of fiscal space concepts indicate that without further

00:19:04.820 reforms the system's funding from labor taxes could hit limits where sustainable taxation can't cover

00:19:10.140 expenses we're talking here about the social security system pre-2023 baseline projection suggested

00:19:15.420 exhaustion by 2030 so so their pension system in france exhausts in five years five years okay

00:19:25.880 we've got five years which and that's so interesting to me because when for example it was proposed that

00:19:34.020 retirement age would be raised forefront among the protesters were young people people who are like

00:19:40.860 you got this wrong i really i looked this up yeah so the the yellow shirt riots were uh yellow vest riot

00:19:47.760 were not about this issue specifically i'm referring to more recent protests the ones so the reason why that

00:19:55.020 they've been able to get the protesters out there even the young ones who no way by the math are going

00:19:59.940 to see these that's why i find it so strange is that the young people are being manipulated by the unions

00:20:06.200 which have a lot of members who are pensioners so basically french has like they're kind of being lied

00:20:11.340 to like they may not even be aware of the fact they're being explicitly lied to so i i was actually

00:20:15.780 looking at this and they went through and they would like ask the protesters why they were protesting

00:20:19.500 and it was things like well why should i have to work when the environment's burning and stuff like

00:20:26.140 typical leftist slot it really they don't understand why they're protesting they just hate macron and

00:20:32.540 they hate quote unquote business where macron isn't even like pro business he's pro like basic

00:20:38.340 rationality and i don't even think he's a good guy he's not like my guy like i'm a le pen guy right

00:20:43.000 like but lacron's things that he's fighting for are like basic things to keep the pension system

00:20:49.140 working for 15 years rather than five years right like this is this is basic stuff right what are

00:20:56.420 other things that he's fought for that are like really you know just absolute manners you people

00:21:02.100 are arguing for like i want an infinite money tree well i'm sorry we don't have an infinite money tree 0.97

00:21:07.760 well then i'm gonna burn down your car and city and murder people in the streets 0.99

00:21:12.200 maybe don't do that right like anyway so at the at that stage we're talking the 2040 stage 0.93

00:21:22.960 pension deficits could escalate significantly current pension deficits are modest 1.7 billion euros in 2025

00:21:29.500 but they could rise by 2030 to 6.6 billion contributing to overall and keep in mind a debt that is

00:21:37.640 always increasing is not a debt that is serviceable and will eventually be called on right and there

00:21:44.280 really isn't much you can do about this the other thing that he wanted to do that everybody complained

00:21:47.360 about where they go it's big business and really it's just practical is the insane tax like wealth

00:21:52.800 taxes that they tried to do in france that would have basically kept people from investing and was

00:21:59.620 this recent because the last time i remember reading about france and taxes was that france was just

00:22:04.220 slurping up all of the wealthy british people when the uk raised texas reforms oh and everybody

00:22:12.000 freaked out about that when really he was significantly helping the french people they were just too spoiled 1.00

00:22:17.560 to see it um so by the way for the first time in 2024 deaths out outpaced bursts in france so they've

00:22:23.940 already hit like the beginning of the plateau and now it's way down all they've been the kick kick kick

00:22:29.380 kick kick going up the roller coaster before they hit back down so what are they gonna say here oh

00:22:35.080 yeah i was gonna talk about the unemployment gap among immigrants in france non-eu foreigners face

00:22:40.180 19.5 percent unemployment versus eight percent for natives in france oh yikes yeah poverty rates are 34

00:22:48.900 percent in immigrant populations compared to 14 percent within the native population so is this due to some

00:22:53.960 form of employment discrimination whereby it's really hard to get a job as an immigrant because

00:23:00.760 that is the case in many countries i don't think so so i pointed this out a lot and this is like

00:23:05.680 a mantra that everyone needs to like like globally we need to grok this and i love it came from my

00:23:12.920 grandfather who's a congressman actually then i only read it because somebody read it back to me was a

00:23:16.980 slur that he had used while while explaining it and i was like wow granddad i had never considered that

00:23:22.520 thank you for this gift of knowledge from a different age but he said famously that you you

00:23:28.380 cannot have generous social welfare systems and porous borders he said you have to choose one of

00:23:35.560 the two because if you have generous wealth social welfare systems and porous borders like very very easy

00:23:42.080 to cross borders you are going to just draw the people who want to live off of those systems into your 0.99

00:23:48.160 country until like osmosis you you get equalization and you no longer have those systems functional

00:23:54.980 anymore you know they've been completely milked to to saturation point that's why i use the osmosis

00:24:00.320 so do people know what osmosis is should i explain what osmosis is you know it doesn't even matter

00:24:06.540 anyway do you do you know do you need a i i know it's about equalization between cell membranes

00:24:14.960 typically yeah with concentrations of materials yeah yeah so anyway so

00:24:20.220 the point here being because if you do then you get equalization the the two ways around that is to

00:24:28.240 have generous social welfare systems but then keep your borders very tight or you can but but france

00:24:33.240 tried to have both and what that means is because france is more generous to its immigrants than other

00:24:41.680 countries like the united states if i am an african right and i'm deciding do i want to go immigrate

00:24:51.300 to the united states or do i want to go immigrate to france right i'm making the choice suppose i'm one

00:24:59.200 of two people right in case one i have a harvard graduate degree or a stanford graduate degree i'm a

00:25:06.000 well-known engineer i'm really like productive obviously like the choice wouldn't even be of

00:25:12.480 you go to the u.s so you got nigerian guy super super smart you know could get a job at any company

00:25:19.200 there is no way on earth he'd immigrate to france unless he just happened to speak like french and

00:25:24.380 have a family connection there or something right but generally speaking outside of other factors he's

00:25:30.480 going to go to the united states now suppose i am a refugee or i am you know somebody who you know is

00:25:38.280 is comfortable living off of state welfare systems which country do i go to oh my god no i would not

00:25:44.680 look or touch the united states with a 10-foot pole i'd be especially with with trump and knowing the

00:25:49.700 sentiment about immigrants now in the united states i i would just be like no the funny thing is is in the

00:25:55.700 united states there isn't particularly bad treatment of like high talent immigrants especially

00:26:01.080 in anywhere where they would immigrate to the united states is being sane in how they're handling this

00:26:07.580 so the reason why france deals with immigrants who are a drain on state resources is in part because 0.93

00:26:14.440 of their generous social services and i will note that the united states has broken this

00:26:18.940 where you saw many of these immigrant towns were getting like literally more money from the

00:26:28.740 government than recipients like native welfare recipients on like credit cards and getting 0.86

00:26:34.440 nice hotels and stuff like this this was happening in the uk as well and really messed up really messed

00:26:40.420 up because then that draws the types of immigrants that cause problems and it's often the immigrants in 1.00

00:26:44.020 these sorts of setups where you have the problems of you know the crime waves and the grapes and the

00:26:49.520 assaults and all of that you know and and i think that this is one of those things that the left can't

00:26:54.880 really deal with like there was a case recently where somebody living in one of those nice hotels and

00:26:58.420 getting money every week in the uk to some girl and people were like but he had a place to live and he had

00:27:05.280 all the money he needed and why did like we we the left acts i'm not the left acts like the reason why

00:27:12.600 immigrant population sometimes do bad things is simply because of bad economic conditions or lack

00:27:18.720 of material goods or something like that not because they have set up a system that would actively draw

00:27:24.300 in the type of grifters who's comfortable living that life when most people just aren't and in fact

00:27:29.560 you often see this even in countries that offer these things like i know this about asian immigrants i

00:27:34.120 know from who grew up in canada and they were like oh yeah my parents could have taken from those

00:27:40.100 government systems but they actively chose not to because they thought it was dishonorable

00:27:44.200 and like that's the type of immigrant you want right like where they're like well i could live 1.00

00:27:49.240 off the government i fit all the qualifications to but like i'm a guest here and i have to earn my

00:27:54.540 place in society and those are the types of people who are going to be really anti-immigration in the

00:27:57.880 next wave right there was a bunch of anti-immigrant away riots in australia recently and i noticed a bunch

00:28:03.720 of people rioting looked like visibly asian when i was like oh you see well you see this in the in the

00:28:09.080 united states as well a lot of the anti-immigrant protests have a lot of black and hispanic

00:28:13.440 participants um but what was it that macron put into place that caused everyone to turn against

00:28:20.460 him and led to this incredibly because he was like the king for a bit and then his coalition

00:28:25.280 completely sped up and then he had to cheat to beat the right oh so for people who don't know this

00:28:29.980 is why he had to end up cheating to beat the right so what he did is he teamed up with the the far

00:28:34.540 left groups and he's sort of a more centrist party and he's like we won't run against each other in

00:28:39.260 the districts where we're running against le pen's party just to ensure because she was going to get

00:28:43.380 the plurality and be able to control the government and likely right the ship we're going to talk a 0.51

00:28:47.280 bit about her party's politics in just a second if people tell you they're far right you can you

00:28:51.160 can judge whether you'd support them all right but what he tried to do was a retirement age increase

00:28:58.460 of 62 to 64 he and and people just freaked the f out basically and that really gets me right like

00:29:06.880 it really gets me that what he was attempting to do was keep a system solvent for more than five years

00:29:11.160 that they that they were they were rioting over an imaginary thing it it it reminds me of that monty

00:29:20.180 python scene where the guy wants to be a woman and the other guy is like sure fine i want to have

00:29:27.940 babies you want to have babies it's every man's right to have babies if he wants them but you 0.73

00:29:33.680 can't have babies don't you oppress me it is symbolic of our struggle against oppression symbolic

00:29:39.620 of his struggle against reality and i feel like that's what's happening in france they just want

00:29:43.740 to protest so when asked by the way they were wondering why they the the yellow s protesters like

00:29:49.120 young people were protesting they they said it symbolized deeper frustrations with macron's pro

00:29:54.760 business read that pro reality policies which they saw as favoring the wealthy while eroding social

00:30:00.640 protections issues like precarious job markets eg gig economy short-term contracts high use

00:30:07.120 unemployment around 17 to 20 percent for under 25 and education reforms fueled a sense of general

00:30:12.420 discontent okay and getting rid of the wealth tax that's going to make all of those things worse

00:30:17.620 sorry about adding the wealth tax uh uh him getting rid of it helped all of those things it

00:30:22.760 caused a flood of new taxpayers business starters everything like that and then if you other things

00:30:29.240 that they said they had a chant which was why work longer on a dying planet which is sort of

00:30:34.120 crazy right all right but i want to talk a bit about lepin's party yeah

00:30:38.900 so i'm sure you've heard that they're far right extremists right what what are their

00:30:46.560 far right and insane beliefs right they are against birthright citizenship that means that somebody

00:30:55.080 automatically becomes a citizen because they're born in a country in a country that has an indigenous

00:30:59.400 population like france that makes perfect sense to me in the united states i might question ending that

00:31:04.620 slightly more but in france i have no problem with with getting rid of that that's totally a rational

00:31:10.740 thing especially if there's people abusing the system to abuse your generosity as french people i mean

00:31:15.380 if immigrants are a net drain on your economy what that means is they are essentially like a guest 1.00

00:31:21.240 that you are giving money to rolling out the red carpet for and if they then treat your country with

00:31:28.340 anything other than the utmost respect and your heritage with anything other than the utmost respect

00:31:32.180 and and i and i doubt even many people in lepin's party would want to kick out immigrants that are

00:31:37.440 treating french culture with respect and we'll see this as well right like this is more to prevent

00:31:41.500 people from abusing the system who do not really care or like french customs and ways of life

00:31:45.760 ban dual citizenship and strip nationality from foreign criminals that sounds pretty reasonable to 1.00

00:31:51.760 me yeah national preference for jobs housing and welfare reserve social benefits e.g family

00:31:56.800 allowances are saying minimum incomes to be exclusively for french citizens non-french must work in france for

00:32:03.580 five years to receive them that seems why is that not already the law how is this for right party

00:32:09.420 yeah moratorium on immigration and deportations immediate halt to immigration end family reunification

00:32:17.920 regroupment familia no regulation for undocumented immigrants and deport illegal immigrants no deport

00:32:24.720 illegal immigrants asylum applications must be filed at embassies abroad not in france all of that is

00:32:30.320 perfectly reasonable restrict health care for foreigners again perfectly reasonable and de-islamization 1.00

00:32:36.840 measures specifically a ban on veils in public spaces which you know something that i ideologically

00:32:43.460 am like i i have more trouble with and that that impinges on people's cultural sovereignty

00:32:49.160 but the french people have a right to their own cultural sovereignty and there are many places in

00:32:56.380 muslim majority countries this is what i would say if these populations were the majority the

00:33:01.340 populations where people are wearing veils right now uh would you french people women be allowed to 0.98

00:33:05.980 go outside without veils on likely not in most countries where they're the majorities that's that's a 0.99

00:33:11.060 law or you you face it where it's not a law you face the risk of violence and and grape when when you do

00:33:16.660 go out without it so why is it unjust for them to ask that of these other people i think that that it's

00:33:23.800 their right as a sovereign country to demand that of people who are their guests you make a fair point

00:33:29.140 yeah i could i would i would feel differently if there was no other country that these women could 1.00

00:33:34.100 live in where that was the norm or allowed or in many cases legally mandated right so yeah i i i can't

00:33:43.680 understand why they they literally are like how dare you force this on these people and it's like

00:33:49.500 there are countries where people who think like them are the majority and we can look at the laws

00:33:53.940 in those countries uh the famous dune line that everyone likes to quote when i am weaker than you

00:33:59.100 i ask for freedom because that is according to your principles when i am stronger than you i take away

00:34:04.840 your freedom because that is according to my principles basically saying that the groups only say

00:34:10.000 oh i want this stuff right now because they can benefit from it right um exit key you framework so they

00:34:18.180 want to leave nato they want to leave the eu they're claiming that france is overpaid by seven

00:34:24.940 billion dollars annually they want to hold a public vote on leaving the eu i think that's

00:34:29.320 totally irrational the eu has been a complete disaster and it's going to be quite dangerous to

00:34:33.160 france in the near future because france for a long time was a net drain on the eu basically

00:34:37.300 germany paid into it france took out of it that was the way it mostly worked it was basically a form

00:34:41.600 of war reparations on germany but now that germany's population is crashing

00:34:45.180 out faster than france's is france has no reason to continue to play with this

00:34:50.180 basically scam system they set up to drain german coffers so that germany could play like it was

00:34:56.580 ruling europe which i guess they kind of were for a period yay they got what they wanted and imposed

00:35:02.620 their totalitarian mindset on everyone they want more protectionist trade and nationalization

00:35:07.220 of specifically they want nationalization of a lot of public utilities it's sort of like their

00:35:11.700 version of like the bbc npr that sort of stuff totally reasonable they want to detect fraud

00:35:15.880 ministry a lot of french people are going to be mad about that they want tax incentives for youth and

00:35:21.100 family to try to get the birth rate up not gonna make a difference but well i guess if it's income

00:35:26.700 tax incentives it really could actually that's the one thing we really support they want to stop giving

00:35:32.200 like family allowances and welfare to families that are committing crimes or in other ways delinquent and

00:35:38.300 doing bad things which again great they even want to enact the death penalty oh no i'm pro death

00:35:45.560 penalty if you do it cheaply in the u.s we do it too expensively that's the thing yeah i don't know if

00:35:50.440 they would be doing it financially sustainably i think most people when they initially set it up

00:35:55.580 would do it sustainably i think the only reason the u.s is so unsustainable about it is because we've

00:35:58.660 had it in for so long but they want to ban this is the only policy i really hate about theirs

00:36:02.680 is they want to ban assisted unaliving which i think is not smart it's so off theme for

00:36:12.040 well no it's like appeal to the traditional catholics okay keep in mind they also have

00:36:18.540 like ridiculous ivf policies in france where it's basically illegal yeah people know it's not illegal

00:36:23.420 you have to implant the embryos immediately that makes it functionally like really difficult to do at

00:36:29.420 above replacement rate which to me means that you know you're functionally sterilizing any family

00:36:34.200 that's having trouble basically just for some roll into of how how bad the situation in france is

00:36:41.660 right now france has been in a prolonged political crisis since president emmanuel recall

00:36:45.680 recron called snap legislative elections in 2024 following his centrist's alliances poor showing

00:36:51.240 in european parliamentary elections the elections resulted in a hung national assembly with no single

00:36:56.700 bloc securing the majority blah blah le pen's party would have won the plurality with about 33

00:37:02.940 so they cheated to to win i could go over the specifics of of what's been going on there but i

00:37:09.400 don't think it's particularly interested i think are is they're basically unable to form a functional

00:37:15.880 government right now one of the primary reasons why a coalition can't be formed it would be sufficient

00:37:21.000 to do so is that none of the politicians given the time left before the next scheduled election

00:37:27.480 want to put their reputations on the line and get involved with this dumpster fire when it would

00:37:32.740 probably preclude them from being able to win when they run next so they're like no i'm sitting this

00:37:37.820 one out totally not tying myself to this mess and two years away from your next big election not touching

00:37:45.000 this so basically no one's stepping up to the plate because they actually want to get reelected

00:37:49.160 and the system demands a certain amount of consensus in order to function and so you have

00:37:56.380 this deeply divided government that has no incentive to form or be functional which means really this is

00:38:02.300 just another example i mean we're recording this at the time of a government shutdown in the united

00:38:06.180 states what we're starting to see is an age of dysfunctional governments of governments unable to

00:38:12.880 even spend the the money they still have at this time and i think people are going to be

00:38:17.280 increasingly accustomed if not functionally at least memetically to the idea of their governments

00:38:23.060 not really working anymore and and and recontextualizing their private communities their own families and

00:38:29.100 also just private businesses as being the new sources of ultimate governing power yeah and i point out

00:38:35.660 here with france's ivf policy we wouldn't have any kids if we lived in france like we we like literally

00:38:40.960 would be sterilized by the state we'd have to go to other countries and that's what most people are doing

00:38:45.080 in europe well you know greece they're going to the netherlands they're going to mexico they're going

00:38:49.740 it's very hard it's very hard to do it's expensive it's especially you're doing it for a lot of kids

00:38:54.740 like we would be you know so you know and you got to go for the checkup appointments you got to go so

00:38:59.460 in france today like i'm just pointing out my larger theming here in france today we would be

00:39:06.300 sterilized by the state under sharia law we wouldn't all of my like best french friends are black muslims

00:39:13.460 so like and like literal african black muslims those are all my my best friends and friends

00:39:18.320 and so like my ambivalence towards france's situation right now is high because they've

00:39:25.240 always been nicer to me like the the the african muslim community in france has always been nicer

00:39:31.100 to me than the french community now this isn't by the way true of all muslim populations like

00:39:36.080 in the uk for example the muslim population there has always been ruder to me than the native british 1.00

00:39:40.840 population but they're getting muslims from different parts of the world i i don't know

00:39:44.900 what the wider like obviously i have disproportionately spent time in one muslim

00:39:48.640 community in france and i don't know if this is true for all the muslim communities in france and

00:39:51.740 for what it's worth i had good friends who were college students in france when i was in college

00:39:57.580 and visited france a ton and had a great experience so it's i don't know i also feel like part of this is

00:40:05.420 your texan heritage and there's something also that seems to be uniquely texan about not liking

00:40:11.340 france and mispronouncing everywhere everyone i knew grew up hated french people like it was like 0.97

00:40:16.180 a normal thing like you guys might not understand this if you're from texas but it was seen as like

00:40:20.820 a normal patriotic thing like it was part of being patriotic like yeah whereas my grandmother was a

00:40:26.840 french war bride um my mother was not a french war bride simone she called literally her biography is

00:40:33.620 called memoirs of a french war bride she really wanted to be french french because she thought

00:40:37.240 it was high class okay she was a effing jew from russia okay but she was not a french war bride 0.97

00:40:43.980 she tried to brand herself as such okay like quite literally but anyway she did because she was hiding

00:40:50.420 from nazis yeah but i mean i grew up with francophiles so i you know i i'm okay with it if you're french

00:40:58.820 and you watch this podcast please don't think we all hate no we haven't we've we've done so there's

00:41:02.500 this great community in france which i wish we had in the u.s which is like an investment group

00:41:07.900 oh that one yes yeah that specifically is trying to they're like a vc but they are like aligned with

00:41:14.840 like the le pen party and like trying to bring france's birth rates back up bring back heritage

00:41:20.780 in ways that they can also capitalize on french culture is extremely divided parisian culture

00:41:27.100 is extremely different from the culture in the french countryside for example yes i i always hear

00:41:32.200 that right um and so maybe if i spent more time in the french countryside i'd have a very and i haven't

00:41:36.760 been to the french country actually i think people in the french countryside also have like a similar

00:41:41.180 attitude toward parisians that you do they kind of hate them you're rid of them yeah so you know i'm 0.99

00:41:46.940 just saying well no it's it's one of those things where like there's just no reason to be rude to

00:41:52.340 somebody for no reason like unless you're a parisian i feel like the snobbiness is part of

00:42:01.340 the cultural cachet you know to be the mean popular fashionable girl that that coldness you know just 1.00

00:42:08.340 how the studies have found that waitresses that are more cold get higher tips yeah really i had no

00:42:15.980 idea that seems very unfair i know it'd be really for us like all the waitresses who participated in

00:42:20.940 these studies were like completely outraged like i bent over backwards to be accommodating a nice you 0.94

00:42:28.080 and you tip me less so yeah anyway you know you want the approval of the person who's like aloof and

00:42:35.620 i just don't understand the purpose of acting that way like it puts other people in a bad mood and then

00:42:40.920 they act bad towards other people and it's like a cycle that spins out of control i just don't i don't

00:42:46.700 understand it's their culture and like if they're leaning into it in parisian culture specifically

00:42:51.020 i i note that it's not that way in the countryside i've heard yeah yeah i mean i will also say like

00:42:57.840 in in german cities i've gotten much more like glares and and brusque responses in german cities like

00:43:04.160 checking out at the grocery line and stuff like fumbling with money and whatnot and i'm just being

00:43:09.160 like and germans are nice for that and i love germans you know just because people are germans are are

00:43:16.820 fine they're too authoritarian like their language is the cutest language how can you call a language

00:43:22.780 that has words like what was a fall well i i should point out by the way i have also dated both french

00:43:28.700 and german girls very seriously dated a german girl she was a hardcore communist she argued to me 1.00

00:43:34.960 that cuba was a better place to live than america and i was like why are people risking their lives

00:43:41.800 in little dinghies to try to get to america then nobody does that going in the other direction

00:43:45.800 you know yeah greta's risking her life in a little dinghy to try to get to gaza so you never know 0.98

00:43:52.460 that whole thing's over now like i'm wondering like for everyone on the flotilla they like look

00:43:57.300 around and they're like okay so this is no longer an efficient way to get aid to gaza no it's just a

00:44:01.260 party boat you know anyway i actually genuinely wonder if they did party afterwards or were they

00:44:08.000 too shocked by being trump to actually party the boats looked like group houses in silicon valley

00:44:13.480 like the interiors of them from the photos i saw i just feel like it's a bunch of young people hanging

00:44:17.320 out mostly going on an adventure like your dad did in his college days but yeah no and francis

00:44:24.360 man i mean just like considering the timelines of this you know that this this is going to become

00:44:29.980 an insulin program in five years we are very close to seeing the world teetering on

00:44:35.620 very profound instability and it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out especially

00:44:42.480 as ai rises so buckle up friends yeah buckle the f up oh by the way people are wondering they're like

00:44:50.160 malcolm why why have you dated people from all of these different countries my undergrad where i went for

00:44:55.540 four years to get my graduate degree was saint andrews in scotland which being in europe

00:44:59.720 and being one of the best schools in europe has a hugely diverse population in terms of like what

00:45:05.480 countries and what nationalities which is why i have so many friends from different countries

00:45:10.120 yeah uk schools are extremely international because they get demand from foreign students and they love

00:45:16.140 accepting them because they pay much much higher tuition so foreign students are able to supplement

00:45:21.140 the tuition of of the local ones and so it's a lot harder for local students to get in but there's a lot

00:45:26.200 of foreign students there yeah yeah anyway i absolutely love you simone and have a spectacular

00:45:31.860 day you too okay give me five minutes i have to change um the episode today how how what do people

00:45:39.120 think i haven't had a chance i was outlining trying to outline the episode that i was going to contribute

00:45:44.820 today so i plan to get to it when i'm with the kids oh that's fantastic no problem at all

00:45:50.520 anything new you learned today or any new information i told you though the fact i learned

00:45:55.780 today is immediately upon the the withdrawal of the israeli forces the idf hamas starts executing

00:46:01.860 civilians in the street just lining them up shooting them in the back i love it when people are like oh

00:46:05.640 the people of gaza like the people of gaza are being unceremoniously massacred people like oh no 0.97

00:46:10.680 what do we do buy hamas oh that's fine they were probably gay or something whatever oh my god do we 1.00

00:46:19.520 know they were yes so they they said they they were not like sufficiently pro hamas during the the war

00:46:27.640 or whatever basically anyone and this is the reason why i personally had a lot less negative thoughts

00:46:33.820 towards the the casualties that were happening there than i would in a normal war because hamas made a 0.87

00:46:39.620 pretty good showing of trying to kill anyone who wasn't pro hamas you know there weren't a lot of

00:46:44.740 people left who were not pro hamas well apparently they were enough yeah but well i we don't even know

00:46:52.260 if these people were anti-hamas i mean it could have just been a terror campaign or anything like that

00:46:56.680 you know this is a the way these things work i think the broader theme is that hamas was perfectly

00:47:05.040 willing to indiscriminately kill its own or use its own as human shields or well no the the wider

00:47:13.760 point being is that while the idf were occupying there you know in many ways it was a safer place 0.99

00:47:19.080 to be than it is today which is a shame but that's you know i think what everybody expected who wasn't

00:47:25.880 completely brainwashed and it's it's wild to me that we're not seeing the protesters mention this and as we

00:47:30.320 mentioned in the episode today just nobody cares like it's it the war is over and all of those

00:47:34.680 college people who literally like celebrated october 7th october 7th and they were cheering about this

00:47:41.540 and there was all of these these things they didn't cheer when the war ended and when they said that that

00:47:47.200 was their goal and i think for a lot of people and a lot of progressive in coming out here and saying

00:47:50.600 this they're like oh like it really was like about murdering people like it really was about killing

00:47:59.940 the jews it was not about what they told me it was about because they would be cheering right now

00:48:05.580 they would be holding celebrations on these college campuses they would be in all of the cities where

00:48:09.800 they marched the streets holding celebratory marches and they just aren't because they didn't care

00:48:15.160 and i think that there's been some videos of like some leftists like oh my god like so this was really

00:48:22.520 about anti-semitism i thought that was like a right-wing grift so this is a wake-up call for a

00:48:27.440 lot of people and and and for a lot of you if you saw people who were actively pushing this stuff and

00:48:33.260 whining about this stuff and they're not actively celebrating the end of the war i i would you know

00:48:38.900 seriously like if you thought that they were genuine in their beliefs like like reflect on that right like

00:48:43.440 reflect on what that says about what their actual goals were anyway pretty dark yeah pretty dark but

00:48:51.080 i i mean it's easy when you're fighting against evil like i i like our side on all of this because

00:48:56.080 it just feels like the other side is so nakedly evil makes things simpler

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France is Boned ... But How Boned？

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