Based Camp - May 12, 2026


Great Feminization Theory: Did Women Break Society?


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00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. Today, we are going to be talking about the great feminization theory by Helen
00:00:05.220 Andrews. In summation, if you are not familiar with the theory, because it's been doing the
00:00:09.320 rounds recently, and it might have some explanatory power to society's current state,
00:00:13.440 she specifically looks at when various fields began to become majority female, be that university 0.81
00:00:22.960 professors, law school students, scientists, management in the United States, most of which
00:00:29.880 at this point is majority female. And she pinpoints the dates that these transitions happened to the
00:00:37.060 rise of wokeness as a social phenomenon, arguing that what wokeness really is, is a female 0.98
00:00:45.740 sociological approach, like what makes female minds different from male minds, applied at the
00:00:52.640 civilizational management scale and i find it very interesting i told simone to dig into it 0.99
00:00:59.580 i mean unfortunately she's got a cold today so you're gonna have to have a a weak voice simone 1.00
00:01:04.960 here but she is a woman so she only she can truly understand the horrors of the female brain 0.99
00:01:10.620 yeah i don't know whenever i have some kind of throat problem i just think of 0.99
00:01:18.420 gentlemen prefer blondes when at one point a boy speaking from a trench coat that Marilyn Monroe
00:01:26.080 is hiding behind and she's like laryngitis and that's all I think of when I have this voice
00:01:30.360 and that's such a great like that home film is such a great study of gender roles and and playing
00:01:37.260 with them anyway though um I'm I'm I think there's a lot of merit to this theory but I also think
00:01:44.700 that there's some i don't know i want to question it and i even have one kind of
00:01:49.580 another theory about how maybe men are responsible for this too so i want to hear your thoughts okay
00:01:57.900 go into it this first emerged last year in september when helen andrews gave a speech
00:02:04.020 about this great feminization theory at the national conservatism conference in washington
00:02:08.940 dc and the speech was super popular it got over 175 000 views so then she decided to publish an
00:02:17.260 essay about it in compact magazine in october that was just when this dude was born and yes
00:02:23.420 like you said she connects the rise of wogeness and institutional dysfunction to higher percentages
00:02:28.280 of women in formerly male-dominated fields and that's really the key part here because
00:02:33.540 men still are the dominant people in employment now i mean at least formal employment but her
00:02:41.600 point is that women bring feminine values that prioritize empathy over rationality
00:02:46.080 and safety over risk and cohesion over competition and that many institutions that were really key 1.00
00:02:52.820 in influencing how the rest of society works at this tipping point over like a series of maybe
00:02:59.680 like five to seven years and she cites specifically law schools which became majority female since 0.87
00:03:07.740 2016 new york times staff which was majority female since 2018 and is now 55 women at medical 0.88
00:03:17.460 schools which became majority female since 2019 and then also the college educated workforce which
00:03:24.280 was majority female since 2019. So these are really recent tipping points. Women are now 33%
00:03:31.020 of judges additionally, and 63% of those were appointed by Joe Biden. Again, this is super 0.79
00:03:37.140 recent. And women are also 46% of managers, as he pointed out. And in her more detailed article, 1.00
00:03:44.160 she cites writers like Noah Carl and Bowen-Agard and Cory Clark, whose survey data show that women 0.90
00:03:50.980 are more likely to prioritize social cohesion over free speech. For example, one cited survey 0.98
00:03:56.660 has 71% of men favoring free speech over cohesion, while 59% of women favor cohesion. I think we
00:04:04.980 might have even covered this on our podcast. And then she also draws on Joyce Benison's book,
00:04:10.660 Warriors and Worriers, like as in worrying, and where she reports lab observations that male
00:04:17.580 groups will jockey for taking time and disagree really loudly but then converge on a solution
00:04:23.280 whereas female groups focus more on like personal relations and eye contact and turn taking like 1.00
00:04:30.840 classic stuff that we think first really saw with the rise of occupy wall street and then they pay 0.96
00:04:36.620 less attention to the actual assigned task she also attributes the rise of cancellations to
00:04:42.180 women's conflict diversion and i think that's the first of her theories that i find to be really
00:04:47.760 revelatory because i hadn't seen it as that way but it really is like the way that women deal
00:04:53.160 with conflict is they just freeze people out and cold shoulder them there's all this like behind 0.96
00:04:58.060 closed doors talking about people behind their backs whereas men just trash talk you to your
00:05:04.680 face like you work it out in person and yeah i noticed this and we talked about it with the
00:05:10.040 conflict between trump and elon which was really refreshing and i do not think damaged either of
00:05:15.640 their reputations nearly as much as it would have had it been a standard woke fight where they just
00:05:20.660 like basically to each other's pieces on x said a bunch of mean stuff for a week but then they got
00:05:26.060 over it and nobody cared anymore yeah it felt so different from the types of political battles that
00:05:32.940 we are used to out of like the clintons and stuff like that where hillary would never just go out
00:05:37.900 there and say a bunch of mean things against another mainstream democratic candidate no like 1.00
00:05:42.840 they shadow ban you to the point where like you don't necessarily even know you've been frozen
00:05:48.160 out you just have been it's like there's no there's no due process you don't have a chance
00:05:53.640 to even have your say you just get uninvited at some point well and i heard in popular like
00:05:59.860 mainstream outlets that cancel culture was attributed to well they say it came out of
00:06:07.300 like gay culture specifically like at least the the linguistic origins of it came from gay culture
00:06:14.540 apparently but yeah i mean like the can the the act of it by the way and i have explained this
00:06:20.720 to you before you just refuse to believe it because it's it's very well documented what do
00:06:26.180 you mean so cancel culture the word cancel yeah came from the campaign hashtag cancel colbert
00:06:34.260 no get his show canceled then people retroactively as people do for many things
00:06:43.600 attempt to pin it to either black or gay culture because this is just something progressive culture
00:06:50.100 does it cannot admit that something had a random origin or a white origin so it will always go
00:06:56.400 back and try to find any historical incidents of gay or black people using a word in a specific way
00:07:03.820 so it can say actually that everybody knows that they do this it's always like this came from black
00:07:09.160 culture this came from gay culture and you're like well obviously not everything came from one of
00:07:12.780 those two cultures and was cancellation is one of the clearest examples because to cancel a 0.57
00:07:18.240 television show is a normal thing to say the very first major widespread campaign of cancellation
00:07:25.780 i just cannot deal with this historical lamp what is it a lamp gassing light light gassing
00:07:33.740 gaslighting gaslighting yes gaslighting yes this this historic gaslighting that this came
00:07:42.060 literally from anything other than hashtag cancel colbert that was like no other incident was
00:07:47.440 nearly that big and she clearly had no connection to gay culture she clearly didn't get the term
00:07:52.640 from gay gay culture she wanted to cancel his television show well anyway it's it's it's i just
00:07:57.940 never thought of it i never realized the extent to which it is a very deeply feminine way of
00:08:03.360 conflict resolution it was a woman by the way who did this conflict it's very like direct conflict 1.00
00:08:10.020 averse conflict resolution but one that is ultimately less just because it doesn't give
00:08:15.380 the or the accused party a chance to defend themselves and one study you haven't mentioned
00:08:21.320 which is obviously very important to all of this in terms of the rise of women is the study that
00:08:27.120 showed i hope our audience is familiar with this by now because it is very big to my understanding
00:08:31.620 of reality now where people played a game against other people for resources and some of these
00:08:40.160 individuals were shown to be cheating and some of these individuals are shown to not be cheating
00:08:44.000 and men and women were shown them being shocked while they were playing the game and for men
00:08:51.320 when somebody wasn't cheating and they were shocked it distressed men and and made them
00:08:56.540 upset but when they were cheating and they were shocked it made men satisfied it gave them a
00:09:01.520 dopamine hit but for women it made them equally upset whether they were cheating or whether they
00:09:07.580 were playing fairly yeah they didn't care they didn't care about like punishment they don't they
00:09:11.460 don't want any form of punishment on anyone yeah be it just or not yeah which is a another key
00:09:18.400 flashpoint in modern society the the key division being those who wish to enforce our laws and those
00:09:24.900 who do not though at a recent dinner party it was chatham house rules but someone that many of you
00:09:30.980 will know well as a major like thought leader pointed out that for a very long time it is
00:09:37.640 it has been a debate in society about enforcing rules it was like uncool to enforce laws so
00:09:44.040 yeah it's not necessarily new but when when did they say this was true
00:09:48.720 like since the 1960s okay that's not a long time okay fair enough it's a long time it is
00:09:58.680 relevant because you know i pointed out that the the quakers were incredibly against enforcing
00:10:03.820 rules and uh you're all about you didn't visit the right person after you got married you'd be
00:10:09.840 like frozen out of your quaker society they had a two-step process after you got married and if
00:10:15.720 you did any part are you kidding me it was like i said 22 22 yes continue anyway anyway so in
00:10:28.120 addition to the sorry additional research that she cites is primate stuff like how males are
00:10:36.640 quicker to reconcile after conflict whereas female primates show a lot more of that like
00:10:41.600 slow burn resentment that you get with women yeah so she's just trying to sort of generalize to say 0.53
00:10:47.100 that men both as primates and as homo sapiens tend toward open and rapidly resolved conflict
00:10:54.480 whereas women tend to undermine and ostracize and make things a lot more long term. And then 0.97
00:11:00.480 she cites three sort of salient examples in her argument. She talks about Larry Summer's
00:11:05.620 resignation from Harvard in 2006 after he made comments about women in science. Feels like just 0.98
00:11:11.700 yesterday, which is crazy. That was 20 years ago. And then Barry Rice's resignation from the New York
00:11:17.460 Times in which she described colleagues calling her a racist and a bigot and an internal slack,
00:11:22.720 how people even who are just friendly with her were shunned and she also describes doctors
00:11:28.400 wearing political pins and endorsing black lives matter protests during by the way i love barry
00:11:33.340 weiss's story there that that turned around on those people's faces yeah i mean seems to be
00:11:39.720 working out pretty well for her yeah right but yeah the doctors were endorsing going to protests
00:11:47.300 even though it was a public health risk to the lockdown rules and like violating lockdown rules
00:11:52.260 um and explain how that works integrating remember how during COVID-19 a lot of doctors
00:12:00.600 that's relevant to the woman thing explain the connection there oh she's she's describing how 0.97
00:12:06.680 uh an increase in women in the medical profession led for a shift in emphasizing 0.99
00:12:13.200 sort of emotion and sentiment and care like concerns about social justice over like 1.00
00:12:19.260 literally concerns about human health um and so that's when doctors became useless
00:12:26.020 yeah they're like who cares about transmitting covid go out to the lives matter protests
00:12:31.900 so you know that bothers me because you know that they won't emphasize palliative care because they
00:12:39.820 just want to keep people alive even when they only have like terrible quality of life left but 0.73
00:12:44.760 like yeah go ahead die as long as it's going to a black lives matter protest and in terms of the
00:12:51.640 causes she cited for this and some of the primary criticism that she actually gets for this is she 0.76
00:12:57.020 doesn't really get really into like how to fix the problem but she does point out that basically
00:13:03.500 legalizing a lot of this was a big source of the issue that by making organizations more liable
00:13:10.100 discrimination and and making anti-discrimination lawsuits a lot easier to do the workplaces had 0.99
00:13:18.700 to become more female-friendly places and they couldn't really tell you to get this weird female 1.00
00:13:23.320 behavior and then if for example in an organization you have an under-representation of women and then 0.99
00:13:31.400 you're therefore exposed to lawsuits you're going to get a lot more women when you're going to have
00:13:37.540 people do anything they can to avoid the risk she also mentions that like basically once you get 0.93
00:13:43.720 this like tipping point of women in an organization you just kind of create this de facto hostile to
00:13:51.740 men environment i'm so sorry he's just well i mean i think something that's really important
00:13:57.880 with all of this and it's something that i think parts of our audience miss because they molder
00:14:03.300 over the unfairness of all of this in terms of the life paths that they told were open to them
00:14:08.780 when they were growing up and then going into the traditional workforce is that a lot of these
00:14:13.980 companies are failing at this point. They are falling apart in terms of their ability to
00:14:18.320 competently produce products. It is quite shocking, actually, that when we look at the cutting edge
00:14:25.920 AIs right now, which are obviously the cutting edge of technology, require huge amounts of
00:14:31.700 investment, very competent teams, everything like that, right? You would expect, because unlike
00:14:37.200 previous generations of transfer, when you go from one generation of tech to the next, typically
00:14:43.960 the history was, is that the new tech required very little money to operate and could be done
00:14:51.280 very inexpensively. And even though during this one particular technological revolution, this is
00:14:56.780 not as much the case it is still the new and young ai companies that are dominating it is not the
00:15:03.620 gemini's it is not whatever the hell microsoft made copilot it's it's not the facebook it's not
00:15:10.980 the i mean facebook is maybe no llama is terrible it's it's not apple apple ai is like an actual
00:15:16.980 joke it's not uh adobe it's not you know it's not any of the mainstream players right it's it's it's
00:15:23.740 the little guys it's your groks and your mistrals and your open ais and anthropics and everything
00:15:29.740 like that and so the question is is how is this even conceivable and the answer is that the
00:15:34.800 organizations that live for a long period of time feminize so quickly and adopt feminine
00:15:42.240 institutional norms that they are no longer able to compete and this is why if you go to like our 0.61
00:15:47.880 website like our fab.ai a lot of people are like wow you're like super search feature is like
00:15:51.940 really good in terms of like using ai to cross check ai across multiple models like why are none
00:15:57.660 of the big companies using this note this morning we are uploading the ability on rfab.ai to on
00:16:04.260 super search upload things like documents and spreadsheets so improving every day oh you have
00:16:10.500 like a card game that uses ai that's i haven't seen this implemented before oh your chatbot system's
00:16:15.920 better than most of your chatbot system are you just like two people building this and it's like
00:16:19.960 yeah you know um the the reason we've been able to do this is because we are not bogged down by
00:16:28.080 the giant self-referencing bureaucracy and a lot of people i think get mad at being frozen out of
00:16:35.400 parts of the tech space right now when the reality is is the parts of the tech industry that are
00:16:41.640 being monopolized are going to collapse and the people who have invested yeah i think you're
00:16:47.600 even mentioning this like in light of of people talking about like immigrant raising them out
00:16:53.160 like yeah if you're in a company that is like mass importing what you see to be incompetent 0.97
00:16:59.420 immigrants that company's not long for this world anyway exactly you should be able to outcompete
00:17:06.260 what that company is doing right like if they're mass importing incompetent immigrants then 1.00
00:17:11.740 presumably the quality of the product's going to go down if the quality of the product doesn't go 0.96
00:17:16.940 down, then they didn't need you anyway, or the immigrants weren't as incompetent as you thought 0.98
00:17:21.080 they were. And I think that that's really a critical point, right? So the question is, 0.98
00:17:26.080 is then people are like, well, you've got natural monopolies. And yes, natural monopolies matter,
00:17:30.540 but you can still break natural monopolies. It has happened multiple, sorry, for people who don't
00:17:35.200 understand what a natural monopoly is. Typically in industries that involve two-sided marketplaces,
00:17:40.380 search, social media, these are good examples of them. You typically get a case in which one
00:17:45.920 and the largest company ends up being 85% of the market. And we have seen these dominate for a
00:17:53.000 long time in something like search or advertisement, or those are really the only two where I know
00:17:58.580 Amazon, Amazon is the third one, but they're not as stable as you would think. So if you look at
00:18:04.740 something like social media, social media is a natural monopoly that's undergone multiple
00:18:09.060 disruptions throughout our lifetimes, where one brand was completely eradicated almost another
00:18:13.900 is online dating. Online dating is a two-sided marketplace that has undergone complete
00:18:18.320 transformations multiple times in our lifetime. So you can disrupt this if you can create a better
00:18:24.640 product. Oh, another one that's undergone complete disruption is instant messaging systems. Instant
00:18:29.660 messaging is a two-sided marketplace that has undergone multiple enormous disruptions. Obviously
00:18:34.380 the biggest one that we would want to see disrupted is video streaming, but it is incredibly expensive
00:18:40.680 to do which is one of the reasons it hasn't been and a lot of yeah it's it's it's difficult which
00:18:46.760 you would really need to do is have a site like if i was going to attempt to compete with youtube
00:18:53.240 which rumble is i not doing it the way i would do it is to essentially mirror and host youtube
00:19:01.240 videos alongside uh the videos that my own site hosted that couldn't easily be taken down so there
00:19:08.920 is no cost to somebody to switch over to my site in terms of the videos that they like on youtube
00:19:13.800 and you could do this legally just use an embedding where they get the money for all that
00:19:19.720 hosting i guess something disruptive could change that and make it more affordable you don't need
00:19:24.700 to host the youtube videos they're hosted on youtube's back end all the videos that you're
00:19:30.180 they're just basically embedded videos that are acting as if they're videos okay i get it i get
00:19:35.500 it but again this is just like just think through this stuff right like yeah anyway what i think is
00:19:43.440 interesting i mean like to her point just in terms of talking through the the argument she
00:19:48.520 made and whether it has merit i do think it's interesting that she points out this tipping
00:19:54.020 point but one issue is that like if this is the problem if the problem is women entering these
00:20:01.800 formerly male-dominated fields, what percentage of women is too many? Because when you actually
00:20:07.960 look at medicine, okay, yes, over 50% of medical students are now female, but by 2010, only around
00:20:16.340 like a third of women in medicine, sorry, of people in medicine, professionals in medicine
00:20:23.000 were female. So that's not that much. And women, I mean, that's compared with only 9.7% 0.98
00:20:31.200 in 1970 but like is 30 percent too much like because 2006 is the first example of this
00:20:39.740 cancellation being an issue like presumably by 2010 that was already an issue I'm not sure like 1.00
00:20:46.820 when is when is too many women too many women also looking at law so in 1970 only 4.9 percent 1.00
00:20:53.760 of lawyers were women and then by 2010 it was similar to medical professions and women about
00:21:01.600 a third of women sorry a third of lawyers were women and then by 2024 it's 41 but it's not that
00:21:09.500 most women are sorry most lawyers are women it's just that there's more women than ever before
00:21:16.360 so part of me wonders like where's the tipping point because they're not necessarily female
00:21:20.900 dominated and also an important point is that all really most leadership positions still are
00:21:29.700 overwhelmingly male dominated okay so if you actually look at like the leadership of every
00:21:36.560 major company you're not gonna you're not gonna see that many women women hold only 27 percent
00:21:42.860 of u.s medical school dean positions and 25 percent of department chair roles even though
00:21:48.840 really misleading in an illusion specifically what creates this illusion is for the very most
00:21:56.980 senior of roles most of them were fought over a couple decades ago so a lot of you think there's
00:22:03.440 just a big delay when it comes to senior leadership yeah a lot of people in these roles are in their
00:22:08.000 70s right like of course they're overwhelmingly male the world was different back then so i do
00:22:13.140 not think it's it's meaningful to point that out okay because i mean it's also the same like women
00:22:19.660 are only 38 of c-suite positions in america again that was the average age of a c-suite position in
00:22:26.160 america yeah okay so you just think that there's a delay there because part of me wonders if men
00:22:31.320 are still dominant in these positions is this kind of a competitive tactic to get rid of middle
00:22:39.600 management that are men who could potentially supplant them and just replace them with less 1.00
00:22:45.380 competent, less engaged women who are also less likely to supplant them, thereby solidifying their 0.97
00:22:52.300 position in leadership. Like it's a gerontocratic status maintenance strategy. You don't think 1.00
00:22:59.000 that's at play? No, it's just that they're old. Like as the workforce ages up, it seems very
00:23:06.080 obvious to me. C-suits are going to become increasingly female, as we've already seen. 1.00
00:23:10.420 In fact, I would go so far as to argue, if you just look at the math of when women began to 0.98
00:23:14.800 dominate management positions and then age it forwards, you're going to see C-suit positions 0.84
00:23:19.680 changing at the same rate. The only place where this really changes is outside of major companies.
00:23:25.000 If you're talking at companies that were still run by their original founder, and if you're 0.64
00:23:29.300 looking at companies still run by their original founder, of course, it'll be overwhelmingly male
00:23:32.540 because these are the competent people
00:23:35.980 who are being frozen out of the workforce right now.
00:23:38.200 And not even like men are smart.
00:23:39.700 It's just like, if you're a competent woman, 0.99
00:23:41.520 you're going to get a job. 0.97
00:23:42.540 If you're a competent man,
00:23:43.640 you're less likely to get a job
00:23:44.920 deserving of your competence.
00:23:48.100 That's fair.
00:23:49.080 And also when you look at younger people in,
00:23:52.620 for example, like law school faculty, 0.65
00:23:55.280 women in law school faculty are now the majority 0.93
00:23:58.160 among those with 20 years of experience or less.
00:24:01.960 so i guess per what you're saying we can expect leadership to be majority female in most fields
00:24:07.980 going forward at least like medical law academia and also i mean similar things are happening in
00:24:15.940 government i mean even historically government was in terms of like federal jobs and stuff there 0.92
00:24:21.260 were a lot of women working in government but now it actually is plateaued since the 2000s 1.00
00:24:27.720 It plateaued around 45 to 46%, which is more representative of just the percentage of women
00:24:34.960 in the workforce. So I guess government isn't that good at representing it. But now in terms
00:24:42.840 of like House of Representatives, as of 2023, 28.5% of House of Representatives members were
00:24:50.480 women and in the senate it was 25 in 2023 so it's still a minority so i also wonder like 0.98
00:24:58.280 how many how what percentage of women is too many i'm just not sure yeah well i mean
00:25:04.300 keep in mind congressmen and senators are enormously old so again it's it's not as
00:25:10.300 relevant but continue i guess that's fair well they don't exercise that much control 0.79
00:25:16.140 like the new york times i think is an outlier in terms of being majority women because of 0.87
00:25:22.420 as of 2022 only 40 40 percent of journalists in the u.s were women 44 percent in television 43
00:25:31.060 percent in radio 41 percent in newspapers 37 percent of daily newspapers 34 percent of wire
00:25:38.120 services so but with a lot of newspaper media it's it's really irrelevant and this is again
00:25:44.480 what I'm talking about. As these institutions feminized, they became irrelevant. As Hollywood
00:25:50.300 feminized, it became irrelevant. As newspapers feminized, they became irrelevant. We are seeing 0.58
00:25:55.880 a society where yes, women, immigrants, Indians may capture organizations, but often not long
00:26:03.560 after they do, if they are not competent, those organizations begin to erode in terms of their
00:26:08.680 ability to innovate in market dominance. Well, speaking of erosion, it could be that
00:26:16.300 this feminization theory, while it has its merits also, it's like a short-lived phenomenon. And as
00:26:23.260 you pointed out, it's kind of toxic. And I mean, you point this out extensively in the
00:26:27.300 pragmatist guide to crafting religion. Call it feminization, call it the woke mind virus,
00:26:33.420 whatever you want to call it, urban monoculture. It is parasitoidal, as you say, like it just
00:26:38.660 destroys the things that it takes over. And when you look at where you see the fewest women, 1.00
00:26:46.700 I think that's where we're going to see the greatest takeover over time. So if you look at, 1.00
00:26:52.320 for example, startups, women just aren't there. For over a decade, only about 2% 1.00
00:26:59.260 of venture-backed startups are exclusively female-founded. And that's down, actually,
00:27:04.840 i think from before so well yeah i mean i there was a period like a point of pride to fund a
00:27:12.340 female startup and that's not even a thing anymore like the female startup roots have
00:27:15.400 mostly dissolved because everybody realized it was stupid to give women money yeah well there 0.80
00:27:20.360 were some high profile busts yeah some high profile busts yeah i think so it's actually 0.75
00:27:29.240 more than that so both of us worked in venture capital and if you have worked with all female 0.99
00:27:34.020 founding teams, even when their companies are doing good, they're often kind of delusional 0.83
00:27:38.800 about like how management should work, how their team should work, how they construct things,
00:27:45.260 what they should actually be focused on. So even where I've seen a female founded company, 0.84
00:27:50.840 you know, just serendipitously take off, it is a nightmare wrangling female CEOs into not 1.00
00:27:57.600 self-sabotaging because they constantly want to focus on whatever sort of messaging is capturing 0.97
00:28:03.220 them that day i i cannot imagine and i bemoan our audience so much having to marry women whereas i
00:28:11.160 got to marry an autist like simone that that's her gender by the way yeah i don't count
00:28:17.760 right i identify as re and those are my pronouns really though like i think the the best thing
00:28:28.140 about married couples is their pronouns become we and they so is those are those your neo pronouns
00:28:36.180 yeah my neo pronouns are we they so whatever but also another important thing i think to note
00:28:45.040 and i think this is only going to become a lot more profound as ai rises female workforce
00:28:50.500 participation is actually below its peak so women's labor first participation it peaked at 60
00:28:57.520 percent in the 1999-2000 range, which I didn't know. I didn't know that it got so high for women
00:29:04.540 and then declined to 57.5 percent as of March 2025. So it's below the rate of meds, which is 67.5
00:29:14.360 percent. And right now, women are 47 percent of the total U.S. workforce and that it's going to 1.00
00:29:22.780 probably remain slightly less than half but that's what projections say i think as ai rises
00:29:30.040 i would not be at all surprised if in the 2030s we saw it dip well below 45 possibly even go to 44
00:29:40.280 and then go even further below in the 2040s to 40 so we'll see well but i mean we already saw this 1.00
00:29:50.640 in after doge which we've talked about in our episode where like wokes abandoned black women
00:29:55.760 where we point out that there is a huge glut of black female unemployment right now because the
00:30:00.540 organizations that were captured by dei and over employing them collapsed at the same time as
00:30:06.620 government services partially due to doge stopped hiring people solely based on dei
00:30:11.880 and a lot of black women had made that basically their entire career and it's caused a 50 explosion
00:30:18.280 in black female unemployment in just the last year yeah so so we're actually already seeing
00:30:25.500 the fallout of this yeah well because it's it's inherently unsustainable and i think in the end
00:30:30.700 like if you resolve conflicts by not actually resolving them by shadow banning and canceling
00:30:36.460 people you're going to let problems fester and i shared with you on whatsapp this graph that went
00:30:42.060 a little bit viral on x this week that showed a trajectory of basically like the male response
00:30:48.360 to conflict resolution versus the film female response to conflict resolution it's a graph
00:30:54.620 where did you send this functional system to dysfunctional system i'll resend it to you on
00:30:58.960 what's up now are you talking about eons you retweeted it okay that graph oh yeah okay yeah
00:31:05.920 i know what you're talking about okay continue i mean this is this is reflected in leaflet's
00:31:10.400 latest song is basically about this as a theory you know you've got a unkind truth to unkind truth
00:31:17.880 to unkind truth makes a functional system become more functional versus kind lie to kind lie to
00:31:23.860 kind line makes a dysfunctional system even more dysfunctional over time or any system more
00:31:29.560 dysfunctional and that's basically just the difference between male and female conflict
00:31:35.260 resolution and also just general treatment of issues in general like women is through various 0.90
00:31:42.800 forms of intrasexual competition and mate guarding will tell other women oh like eat that piece of
00:31:49.700 cake or you do look great or you know dump him even when they really shouldn't be told that
00:31:56.780 and it ultimately is to their detriment whereas men will be like dude you're getting fat or like
00:32:03.720 no you know she's out of your league anyway you should you know end up and be a better partner
00:32:09.200 like that you you see men telling each other the unkind truths and that's i think why ultimately
00:32:14.060 they're kind of behind most of society's major innovations because you're not going to get
00:32:19.580 why or even the primary reason men innovate more than women just testosterone is that
00:32:25.300 neurological differences and then what also being smarter on average i didn't say that i just said
00:32:33.060 neurological differences sociological differences come on simone we're not we're not going for a
00:32:39.220 channel ban here okay i wonder what would recognizing that men are on average smarter
00:32:45.680 than women get us in trouble yeah it would get us in trouble simone so we don't recognize that
00:32:52.580 so we never yeah we wait we're speaking in hypotheticals of course yeah hypotheticals 0.91
00:32:58.740 only come on simone i'm not the smarter one in this relationship it's clearly you this is why
00:33:04.700 you're doing all the analysis for surely surely you can hypothetically be the smarter one
00:33:11.160 hypothetically yeah yeah so let's just say hypothetically but i mean
00:33:19.420 so the biggest criticism that helen andrews faced with is that she had no solution
00:33:24.880 and i guess the only solution we've proposed so far is don't worry it solves itself like put
00:33:30.700 women in charge well no it solves itself if you are diligent in guarding against it as we rebuild
00:33:38.540 the economy ourselves with our yeah i mean the most practical solution for the problems that
00:33:44.160 she points out is don't make companies liable for being male-friendly spaces or for being female
00:33:51.940 hostile spaces but how like how functionally do you do that repeal loss well yeah you know i i 0.98
00:34:00.660 think you look at our fab and we don't hire any women we've got you working on it and that's it
00:34:05.860 and like calling you a woman feels a little perverse within the current ecosystem i think
00:34:12.120 your larger solution is not hiring humans though so i don't know if that counts 0.77
00:34:15.920 yeah well i mean humans are also pretty terrible
00:34:18.420 last time we checked
00:34:23.440 expertise is not working with people 1.00
00:34:27.860 because people are such a bunch of bastards 0.99
00:34:31.020 yeah i don't like people 1.00
00:34:36.060 oh well now that's not fair roy have you met all of them 1.00
00:34:39.460 i've met enough of them people what a bunch of bastards 1.00
00:34:45.040 they really are though 0.98
00:34:47.260 but i don't know i think i think just removing legal liability is probably one of the biggest
00:34:55.800 things but i think there's also a cultural element of celebrating to the point of bronze
00:35:03.260 age pervert actually male only spaces like a lot of a lot of men online have celebrated this idea
00:35:11.300 of a return to the only spaces and i encountered some people like when i was in austin a couple
00:35:18.300 weeks ago who were really excited to start like men's clubs like private invite only men's clubs
00:35:24.560 i don't know man like even men still want to interact in taylor lorenz is talking about how
00:35:34.440 now the high class and trendy thing to do no i'm telling you even highly left is taylor lorenz
00:35:40.560 i just watched her on a podcast today was talking about how the high class thing to do now is to
00:35:45.800 meet people in person and hang out in person and i could absolutely see it being very trendy
00:35:51.020 to only do stuff in person going forward mark my words i'm seeing it there's like not among the
00:35:56.880 high class people i know among the high class people i know i'm seeing the exact opposite
00:36:00.740 in person is increasingly terminally online set no i'm talking about the ones i know who used to
00:36:06.960 be offline people right like the the upper class people i know who used to socialize offline no
00:36:14.600 longer do now i mean here's an example simone brian chow right like he's talked to us about
00:36:20.100 the way he does socialization now oh my god no no no no that's the problem is he has shifted to
00:36:27.380 being literally someone who is employed and working for network state no i know he's working
00:36:33.540 for network school communities that he is most proud of being a member of and associates most
00:36:39.540 with are things like signal groups and stuff like that they are not personal networking events or
00:36:44.740 anything like that because the reality is is that if you are engaging he literally his life now
00:36:50.740 i understand but that doesn't mean that's his social life in person city right and the point
00:36:56.700 i'm making is despite that that is not his social life and that shows how severe yes it is among
00:37:05.020 you have you you haven't talked with him recently about his social life if you look at it i read
00:37:11.700 all of his sub stack posts to you okay i haven't read his recent subject so you're saying he's
00:37:16.460 regularly socializing in person yes that's what you do in network school no no no no no no no
00:37:24.440 i am not talking about your subjective guess around what happens in network states
00:37:29.960 you read posts about him going to in-person parties and events yeah he's alluded to them
00:37:36.760 alluded to them because the last time i talked to him he talked about signal groups being the
00:37:43.640 core source of power in his society and it makes that was a long time ago no no no even if you're
00:37:47.840 in a network state so just think about this rationally suppose you're a man and you're
00:37:52.400 rational, Simone. So I know this is going to take a lot of work, so try to get there with me, okay?
00:37:58.180 You care about moving up in the world, about associating with people who are in positions
00:38:04.200 of power within your industry, right? Or within some industry tangential enough to yours,
00:38:09.520 or within an intellectual space tangential to yours, okay? What is the probability that the
00:38:15.880 leaders, the intellectual leaders or the economic leaders of those communities are going to happen
00:38:22.300 to be in your network state, even if your network state is highly selective, virtually zero. This is
00:38:29.160 also true of your asking in your city, in your area, in your state. And so if you're actually
00:38:35.000 being like a man and efficient, you don't bother with that. You instead focus on gaining access to
00:38:42.860 the digital isolated environments, because this is where you can interact with the actual world
00:38:49.460 leaders was in a field regularly instead of the social masturbation that happens in something
00:38:55.900 like a network state i don't know we'll have to ask him but i i hear you still i guess what
00:39:07.780 did you have any other proposed solutions to the great humanization that's the point you replace 0.55
00:39:15.480 them and the people who were so indulgent that they wanted to meet up in person the the wussy 0.91
00:39:19.880 men who thought that that was their solution they're smoking clubs and stuff you replace them 0.89
00:39:25.040 too because you're going to be in the clubs with the people who are actually running the world
00:39:29.840 and they're in the clubs with the people who like to socially signal to other men which is
00:39:35.400 kind of fey okay it's like watching football or something i understand that like we're supposed
00:39:43.960 to pretend it's masculine as a society but like as an autistic external objective observer it
00:39:51.300 appears pretty fey to me i i just it does and it is indulgent and so it doesn't lead to these 0.91
00:39:59.760 sorts of positive outcomes so it's easy to outmaneuver these people be they men or
00:40:05.520 sorry be they women or feminized men
00:40:08.160 i think what by this definition you think anyone who engages in leisure activity is
00:40:15.920 no i think there are efficient ways to engage in leisure activities and there are inefficient
00:40:21.660 ways to engage in leisure activities for example if i want to let's talk about efficient versus
00:40:27.900 inefficient okay let's look at a hobby like gaming which is fairly efficient versus a hobby like
00:40:34.480 let's say tennis or scuba diving, which are fairly inefficient. Okay. So I want to go.
00:40:41.420 Does they include commute or what?
00:40:43.260 Scuba diving. Now I need to commute. I need to get my tank ready. I need to sit on the dock. I
00:40:48.960 need to go out early in the morning. So irrespective of when I might be efficient at working during that
00:40:54.360 time of day, I then have to get everything ready, everything prepped, go out. I cannot multitask.
00:41:00.620 with gaming i can have a game open in one tab and a vibe coding session open in another tab
00:41:05.900 i didn't lose like an entire day on a weekend i then come back and i've just lost a day same
00:41:12.420 with let's say tennis so i get all my stuff together i have to then go out and organize
00:41:17.320 with somebody else so we're both free at the same time we then get to a tennis ranch or whatever
00:41:22.960 they call them um and sorry i actually used to play varsity tennis so i'm fairly familiar with
00:41:29.480 it so you you get your tennis court and you you you need to sign up for time by the way so you
00:41:36.760 know you got to get the right timing you get there you play a few rounds when you're also
00:41:41.800 not able to multitask you then have to come home shower which is again another waste of time that
00:41:47.000 you wouldn't have need to do if you were gaming now contrast all of this with something like
00:41:51.200 gaming okay it's the end of the day you don't need to drive out somewhere it's at a time period where
00:41:57.060 you're already your brain's already fried which for some people's early morning some people that's
00:42:01.060 late night and so you're like okay i'm going to do this while i'm tying up the last of whatever x y
00:42:06.860 or z and that's that's very very efficient right like this is why the if you're playing tennis on
00:42:15.240 your computer versus going to a tennis court also it's fairly inexpensive it's one of the least
00:42:19.960 expensive hobbies there is as long as you're not engaged in the gambling aspect of it like loot
00:42:25.060 boxes and stuff like that if you're just playing a video game contrast that with owning a country
00:42:31.020 club or you know subscription or maintaining your scuba equipment or you know just buying a new
00:42:37.540 nice certifications and the travel and the specialized clothing and the gas oh and don't
00:42:44.620 forget your tennis club membership yeah and the potential parking and the you know all of this
00:42:51.020 is so expensive such a waste i mean this is true of so so so many hobbies there are a few other
00:42:58.380 efficient hobbies walking hiking biking and these are efficient because while you cannot multitask
00:43:05.520 while you can do them they at least give you exercise and can be done right from your front
00:43:09.580 porch yeah depending on where you you live i mean there are ways to do these hobbies that are
00:43:14.320 incredibly inefficient and there's ways to do gaming that's incredibly inefficient but there's
00:43:17.780 some hobbies that there's just virtually no efficient way to do them and this is what i'm
00:43:22.380 talking about here right like that people pretend like these things are the same and they're not the
00:43:26.600 same and i i just like and this this is where people get get mad at us at the channel or whatever
00:43:32.780 so much they're like oh you guys are so i don't know puritanical about recreation but about doing
00:43:38.340 recreation efficiently and i think that the latest leaflet song goes into this by the way
00:43:43.220 is not overdoing recreation and staying healthy and everything.
00:44:13.220 but you've done a good job of keeping me healthy
00:44:30.900 ish i mean i'm healthy again now we have now that your blood work isn't we just got our
00:44:38.180 blood work back. Yeah. So last year I had gotten to a point where I was drinking more again to the
00:44:44.260 point where my, my levels of a few things, cause I get this measured regularly went up and I just
00:44:48.900 got my blood work back and they all went back to normal because diligence, right? You don't let
00:44:54.540 the thing control you. You don't need to focus. You don't need to design your entire life around
00:44:59.000 avoiding a thing. Just stay within the measured variables. Glad I worked out. I'm glad you're
00:45:06.240 okay but yeah and the the the sorts of ideas that we're talking about i think are are difficult 1.00
00:45:13.220 like if you even begin to bring this up with a woman like well i mean you don't want to 0.99
00:45:17.460 be friends with somebody who is of zero utility to you you know they'd be confused and angry right
00:45:22.820 like they hurt you in their well here's yeah i mean here's the struggle then with great feminization
00:45:27.720 theory is like how can we reconcile acknowledging this theory and still encourage men to get
00:45:38.280 married well women become very efficient when they are subservient to a man this is the difference 1.00
00:45:45.620 right and i've pointed this out in some way i mean like in modern culture women are strongly 0.74
00:45:51.700 discouraged from women want to do it they want a man to work for they do they want to do it they
00:45:59.500 want to be inspired by who you are and what your goals are you do want to be inspired by yeah they 0.98
00:46:04.960 want to be inspired by it but are there enough inspirational men right like i mean i sometimes
00:46:10.900 feel very i feel hypocritical no this idea i don't i don't buy this and some people in our comments
00:46:17.960 have argued this and i just they're like well not every man can have like sky high ambitions for
00:46:23.120 how he wants to change the world and i'm like yes they can they absolutely can you don't need to
00:46:28.760 succeed in your ambitions simone doesn't value me because i succeed in all my ambitions she values
00:46:35.300 me because i have them and i earnestly strive for them i haven't yeah i mean to also i think we know
00:46:41.480 there's some people have pushed back on us in comments saying like look i'm happy enough to
00:46:46.100 just raise a successful next generation like to just raise good kids who are going to make you
00:46:52.060 know the world a better place and make the next generation good which is totally in line with
00:46:56.860 our mission and our interest in promoting human flourishing like Malcolm has really really big
00:47:01.860 ambitions but not everyone has to be like I'm going to change the world just raising good kids
00:47:07.100 is huge and very impactful I think that the key thing is we're not saying that for a man to be
00:47:13.900 attractive he has to plan on like world domination we're saying for a man to be attractive he has to
00:47:19.080 know who he is be extremely confident in who he is and know what he's all about like hey i am going
00:47:25.440 to raise a successful family provide for that family like build a good you know future generation
00:47:31.780 create a great childhood for my kids and make the world better by doing that and i hear my beliefs 0.99
00:47:37.240 and i know what i'm all about women find that really attractive like you don't have to take
00:47:41.840 over the world you don't have to be delusional yes you do so this this comes to what we were
00:47:47.020 talking about earlier today when i was trying to understand how nick fuentes had gotten so
00:47:51.420 one-shotted by society that now his stated goals are not at all served by his actual actions
00:47:57.780 and i'd say this is somebody who can sympathize with him because i think we have a lot of similar
00:48:02.220 motivations but he's basically crashed out like as i pointed out in the recent video
00:48:06.820 similar motivations like what the the fame whorishness or something else well no i mean yes
00:48:12.300 we we both are narcissistic fame whores who come off as a bit faded people but you're not no you're
00:48:18.540 not a narcissist you like you like fame i think he does too and you like attention and i think he 0.51
00:48:23.540 does too but you are not a nurse it's not just that i mean we both realize many of the same
00:48:28.520 problems with society people downplaying cultural and ethno differences people thinking you can just
00:48:35.960 import anyone forever into the country. Like many of the problems that we diagnose about society
00:48:41.840 today are very similar, but the way that he has gone about it is completely unlikely to have any
00:48:47.840 sort of efficacious result. Not unlikely, it's virtual impossibility from his actions. And anyone
00:48:54.720 who is thinking clearly could see that. And so I began to think, how did he so bad in terms of his
00:49:01.540 logic and what occurred to me because he began to i get to think of him as like one of those in
00:49:07.420 anime there's this common trope of somebody gets like a an evil bug on their back or something
00:49:14.180 like that that turns them into an evil version of themselves that like fuels like one like negative
00:49:21.160 character trait they have until that character trait it defines everything that they're doing
00:49:26.160 and then they turn into some sort of like big bad putty or something shugachara is an anime where
00:49:30.780 this happens as an example but but it's a very common trope in in animes and shows for for
00:49:35.820 children but he sort of he he doesn't come across like a bad guy to me he comes across somebody
00:49:39.720 who's been sort of infected by like a hate a hate bug that has ended up making him unable to see
00:49:46.900 that he's destroying the very thing that he claims to want to save nick you're the man with three
00:49:53.660 white girls that's the dream lol that's the dream like live in the dream three daughters 0.99
00:50:00.220 You're the gayest guy ever. 1.00
00:50:02.160 You're gayer than gay guys. 1.00
00:50:05.120 That's crazy. 1.00
00:50:06.520 I'm living the dream.
00:50:09.120 Daughters.
00:50:09.740 Wow, a lot of manis and petties, a lot of tea parties and drama.
00:50:14.560 Dude, I just can't even.
00:50:16.580 I literally can't even. 1.00
00:50:18.900 Women talk to me and my eyes just glaze over. 1.00
00:50:22.200 So I can't imagine being in a house with four of them. 1.00
00:50:24.160 You're like a prisoner.
00:50:24.780 You're like a prisoner of war. 0.98
00:50:26.240 I'd rather be a prisoner of war in Vietnam.
00:50:28.220 How can you live like that? 1.00
00:50:29.300 i would need a lot of vacations and a lot of whores or something just like you would need 1.00
00:50:35.840 some kind of extramarital affair to keep it going i feel like that is the only way i could stay sane 1.00
00:50:40.620 in a life like that why'd you have to leave with that he said uh hey i got three white girls living 0.99
00:50:46.880 the dream but the girl dad rightism shit was gay first for people who cannot tell or do not know 0.99
00:50:55.180 people who've done cocaine he's clearly out of his mind on cocaine in this you can tell because 0.99
00:50:59.880 of the way he's talking and he keeps rubbing his nose which is not a normal human behavior
00:51:03.620 to be doing that as frequently as he's doing that but i so i i do you know give him some
00:51:10.140 leniency on the things he's saying here like as time has gone on nick has clearly been captured
00:51:15.200 by his demons and so there's no way he can achieve what he says he wants to achieve in life or
00:51:20.800 motivate his fans to do this when he's like being mean to somebody who's reaching out to him and
00:51:25.900 expressing admiration to him for doing the very thing that he's telling his fans to do
00:51:30.920 i'm not even mean to my fans when they have different opinions like just to be mean like this
00:51:36.840 to to a stranger for doing what you're telling them to do like the deep evil that has to have
00:51:43.240 taken root in your heart and not just that but the people who are like well nick fuentes shows so
00:51:49.200 much self-control here he's literally saying oh if i had a bunch of daughters i would cheat on my
00:51:53.520 wife like even if i had a perfect wife who was wholly dedicated to me and due to something
00:51:57.860 completely outside of her control having boys instead of girls i just end up cheating on her
00:52:02.620 and yeah i guess just like as time has gone on i feel more pity for nick because in a different
00:52:09.240 world maybe i could have gone down his pathway if i had less self-control if i was raised in a
00:52:15.160 different religious background if i you know who knows it's it's a very very sad to see this happen
00:52:21.560 and to see him admonish people who look up to him when they do do what he presumably wants people
00:52:28.080 to do but it's i mean it's clear again revealed preferences versus claimed preferences it's clear
00:52:33.580 that is not his revealed preference to actually start a family and have kids and everything like
00:52:37.560 that and i just wish i could better communicate to people that like allowing his ideology to
00:52:45.980 spread within you will eventually destroy you as a human being there there is no positive into this
00:52:52.700 like contrast this was like leaflet song right like that's that's positivity that's future his
00:52:58.180 is just destructivity at this point uh and it's really really sad to see um i do not think that
00:53:04.540 him and i are particularly different in the problems that we see in society it's just that
00:53:09.680 his again like one of those hate bugs has been so corrupted that um it's all he can see anymore
00:53:16.140 or another good analogy would be like the orcs from warhammer who drink the demonic ichor to
00:53:22.380 enhance their worst qualities but make them stronger you know it makes him stronger in the
00:53:27.900 algorithm but it leads all those who follow him to ruin this sort of demonic pact that he has made
00:53:33.740 He's still an orc. He's still, at least in his own way, trying to be on our side.
00:53:39.920 But he is so corrupted that he fundamentally is as big a threat to us as those who oppose us.
00:53:46.980 Dream, claim your destiny. You will all be conquerors.
00:53:56.040 And what Gul'dan must we give in return? 0.99
00:54:03.740 Everything. 0.99
00:54:18.500 You will reject this gift.
00:54:26.160 We will never be slaves.
00:54:29.220 agree i mean what we talked about also is that a key difference is that
00:54:40.740 you and other people that we really like and admire like leaflet have a very clear vision
00:54:46.520 of the future well that's what i was going to say is is that the reason why the hate bug has
00:54:51.680 gotten him and it hasn't easily gotten some of the other influencers i watched i was trying to
00:54:56.700 think of like what creates this differentiation and looking at leaflets recent content because
00:55:02.460 i've been working with her she's actually really helped me in developing the vtuber thing on rfab
00:55:07.480 that's going to be coming out soon saved me a significant amount of work was one of the leads
00:55:10.940 she gave me today but anyway so that's the reason she comes up a lot is because i'm working with
00:55:15.140 her and i'm talking with her daily so very top of mind but anyway so she has a very clear vision
00:55:22.140 And we have a very clear vision of where we want human civilization to be in 50 years, in 100 years, in 200 years, right? And I don't think he has one of those. And because he doesn't have a clear vision of where society is going to be, it's just like society is going to be where society is going to be.
00:55:38.560 It's very easy for the grievances of the current culture war to overwhelm his sort of psychology to the point where he can no longer think what are the long term actions if I attempt to blow up this alliance or this alliance or, you know, do not care about this encroaching group or that encroaching group.
00:56:00.880 And I think that the hate bug can get you if all you care about is being a good family man.
00:56:09.200 Because if all you care about is being a good family man, you can accidentally lean into performing the trope of the family man in the same way a woman can perform the trope of the mom instead of focusing on a concrete outcome. 0.53
00:56:21.500 I want to raise kids to have this effect on society because I see this future civilizational state as ideal. 0.79
00:56:28.580 now both can be part of the same action it's just how are you framing it which is why this goes also
00:56:35.080 it's connected to your deontology versus consequentialism argument that always comes
00:56:39.880 yeah but i realize that that arguing about it on a deontology versus that can be a little hard for
00:56:45.200 people to grok but the idea of just either you have a vision for where you want society to be
00:56:51.420 in 100 years or you don't yeah basically is your ship just blowing wherever the winds blow
00:56:57.220 or are you actively navigating in a specific direction towards some kind of true north
00:57:02.680 and are you shifting your sails in response to the wind blowing you where you may not want to go
00:57:07.800 i actually think a better way to word this is not just is your ship going where the wind goes
00:57:13.040 but there's sort of three categories of people like there's a truly lazy person who is allowing
00:57:18.360 their ship to just blow wherever the wind blows but then there's the other person who might be
00:57:22.580 incredibly hard working but they spend all of the time just trying to make sure their ship is the
00:57:27.100 prettiest ship there is without particular care for where it's going right and these are the people
00:57:32.420 who strive to have the perfect family that follows all the rules or the perfect deontological life
00:57:37.160 that follows every rule and every command and everything like that and they'll often be like
00:57:42.360 well god will just take me in the right direction if i do all of that and that leads to really
00:57:46.740 negative externalities and it and it's not biblically i mean i always go through the the
00:57:51.860 sermon of
00:57:52.820 a boat and two
00:57:55.940 helicopters so I'm not going to go over that again
00:57:57.940 you can go over our track series if you're interested
00:57:59.580 but the point I'm being here
00:58:01.960 is I think that it is
00:58:03.620 sometimes easy to confuse
00:58:05.680 trying to make sure your boat is the
00:58:07.760 prettiest boat in the world without
00:58:09.460 caring about where the boat's going
00:58:11.000 anyway
00:58:14.300 love you Simone
00:58:17.100 I love you too
00:58:18.920 and I don't think I want dinner tonight
00:58:20.560 I'm full
00:58:21.340 are you sure i have some lo mein leftover just a little bit oh you do have lo mein
00:58:26.460 yeah if you want i could just walk it up to your room i can i can stir can i have it can i have it
00:58:31.300 the next day yeah because you gave me eggs today and i had chips and salsa today and i had whole
00:58:38.540 milk today so that's a lot are you gonna get scurvy i'm not yeah that is not how scurvy works
00:58:47.760 I guess I knew you had salsa
00:58:49.940 Salsa
00:58:51.760 I had salsa, Simone
00:58:52.840 That was a lot of tomatoes and juices
00:58:54.740 Okay
00:58:56.640 I also had jelly beans
00:58:57.900 I had some orange jelly beans
00:58:59.800 Which are basically 0.95
00:59:02.120 I hate you so much 0.99
00:59:03.240 You are going to die 1.00
00:59:05.100 I try to help you by serving you eggs 0.98
00:59:09.880 And then
00:59:10.900 Anyway, it's fine
00:59:12.580 It's fine, you could have let me in tomorrow
00:59:14.080 It's fine
00:59:14.740 but are you sure i'm sure i'm sure i'm not hungry
00:59:21.140 well i love you i love you too ish
00:59:25.980 i find you a little you know you've done i am a woman i'm sorry i'm very sorry
00:59:33.800 joking by the way i love you all right have a good one
00:59:37.800 i sent it on whatsapp oh yeah the old dinosaur titan yeah doesn't it look a lot like her today
00:59:49.040 looks just like her today very very similar attitude to modern titan this morning though
00:59:56.380 she decided she was a cat and every time i asked her questions you said titan do you want this or
01:00:00.720 can you do that she's like no my cat meow she did a lot of meowing so she's really you did that
01:00:10.040 as a kid too right you pretended to be a cat i 100% did that i wonder if there's some
01:00:15.760 it's just a little girl thing i don't think it's like a genetic thing but i mean you know
01:00:20.220 fortunately we're not into all that trans furry stuff or we'd be like oh you've got her furry 0.94
01:00:26.380 tail and furry ears you've got her ethereum kid right we're gonna have to transition her 0.98
01:00:31.740 that was you dude you bought that stuff on amazon jacuz have you have you given it back to her now
01:00:39.680 that she thinks she's a cat so she can dress up like i need to no i'll go i'll get it out this
01:00:43.840 weekend i'm 100 getting that out okay that's fantastic i will kick us off and unless you
01:00:53.000 Do you want to kick this one off?
01:00:54.060 Because you were the kind of impetus for doing this.
01:00:57.860 All right, sure.
01:01:03.640 Mommy, look.
01:01:05.340 I was going down to this.
01:01:07.360 Is he a heart or a head?
01:01:10.380 Indeed. 0.99
01:01:12.960 I think they're a pretty pussycat around. 1.00
01:01:16.340 Yeah, they are. 1.00