Based Camp - Higher Earnings No Longer Lead to Marriage： Culture is Changing

00:00:00.000 hello simone today we are going to be talking about some studies that recently came out well

00:00:04.000 some recently came out some came out a while ago but looking at the topic of how earnings affect

00:00:10.720 marriage rates and fertility rates that surprisingly for males they no longer seem to increase marriage

00:00:23.920 against the narrative that you always hear on the right yeah this is yeah this is important

00:00:27.120 in fact we did an episode in which we read one of arctotherium's articles on aporia where he

00:00:32.720 basically posited that the solution to birth rates would be to effectively economically disempower

00:00:39.280 women by sort of removing them from bureaucratic roles or eliminating those roles entirely and to 1.00

00:00:44.160 economically re-empower men with the supposition that this will increase marriage rates turns out

00:00:50.480 that's not how it plays out in reality at least in a post women earning money and having careers era 1.00

00:00:59.680 yeah all right so i'll start here with the first study this is a new one that i found really

00:01:03.520 interesting male earnings marriageable men and the non-meritable fertility evidence from the fracking

00:01:10.320 boom so this study exploited the economic shock from fracking booms across the u.s regions from 1997 to

00:01:17.920 2012 fracking created localized economic booms that significantly increased wages for non-college

00:01:23.760 educated men they examined how marriage and birth rates responded to these economic improvements

00:01:28.720 key findings labor market effects fracking brooms increased earnings for men without college degrees

00:01:33.920 by 4.4 percent per thousand dollars of new production per capital job opportunities also increased for

00:01:41.440 these men with spillover effects beyond the oil and gas industry birth effects both marital and non-marital

00:01:47.680 births increased increased in response to fracking booms the increase was statistically significant

00:01:52.720 for both types of births this suggests children are quote-unquote normal goods people have more when

00:01:58.800 income rises so i need to break down that a little bit because another study is going to look at this as

00:02:04.000 well which is to say that there are some types of goods that people consume more of as income declines or in

00:02:10.880 economic slumps oh oh yeah like i remember when we used to work in the private equity world more

00:02:17.280 one one period a group of investors were like oh yeah we love nail salons because during recessions

00:02:23.920 women go to them more because it's like one of those small indulgences that they can still afford even if 1.00

00:02:28.640 they don't want to buy more of like fancy soaps in a fancy soap company people do more on where are some of the

00:02:37.600 other things people do more on but they do more entertainment they do more video games video games

00:02:41.920 go up in recessions movies i think go up in recessions other types of entertainment goes up

00:02:46.800 so kids are not that type of good and and know what's being said here births increase as money

00:02:53.200 increases for uneducated men which is great this is an area where that is really interesting that 0.62

00:02:58.720 basically out of wedlock births are increasing and people are choosing to have kids when they have more

00:03:03.360 money just not in west last year is it a similar economic impact from the ubi study did not increase

00:03:09.120 first so handouts not so much but increasing the jobs or economy male economic empowerment does yes 0.63

00:03:16.400 yeah okay but to marriage effects this is where it gets more interesting contrary to the reverse 0.95

00:03:22.800 marriageable men hypothesis there was no evidence that marriage rates increased the data showed no

00:03:29.040 reduction in never married rates or increase in marriageable rates these findings were consistent

00:03:35.440 across different modal specifications fascinating social context comparison they compared these results

00:03:44.560 to the appellation coal boom of the 1970s to 80s during the earlier coal boom increased earnings led to

00:03:50.320 more marriages and marital births was a decrease in non-marital births this contract suggests social norms may

00:03:57.840 have changed may have changed they've definitely changed that's what yeah something has clearly

00:04:02.160 changed i mean it reminds me a lot of sweden how they're there there are a lot of parents who just

00:04:07.840 aren't married and it's sort of after that becomes normalized it's really hard to get people to marry again

00:04:15.040 what's interesting here is that areas with high baseline non-marital birth rates showed a similar

00:04:20.480 increase in marital and non-marital births but areas with low baseline non-marital birth rates only showed

00:04:25.600 an increase in an increase in marital births basically this means if you live in an area where

00:04:29.840 people were already having a lot of kids outside of marriage then you have an increase in the number

00:04:35.680 of kids they're having outside of marriage if you don't if you live in like a more conservative

00:04:39.680 religious area then that doesn't increase the non-marital births which is really fascinating

00:04:44.240 so the authors conclude that while improved economic prospects for men might have previously led to more

00:04:49.600 marriages before childbearing in today's context economic improvements lead to more births both

00:04:55.520 marital and non-marital without necessarily increasing marriage rates and in great natural

00:05:00.880 experiment there was the regions where you already have a lot of out of marriage births and the regions

00:05:05.280 where you don't which shows that in some regions they've maintained this older culture um but in the

00:05:10.880 regions where they've maintained the older culture fascinatingly it didn't lead to more marriages

00:05:14.800 that's really interesting it did really it looks at the interplay between economics and culture in

00:05:21.680 a way i haven't seen research do for quite some time and it's so fun to see that someone looked at this

00:05:26.960 isn't that fascinating but let's do some other studies so we can we can drill into what other

00:05:31.040 people have found on this particular subject actually i want to pontificate on this more

00:05:35.760 okay um getting getting lounge malcolm here so what does this mean it means that anything you could

00:05:48.000 do to increase economic situations is good for fertility rates so increasing general economy increases birth

00:05:55.600 rate thus doge elon amazing for everyone but government employees um uh yeah except so the whole reason i

00:06:03.440 learned about this study was from the researcher's book the two-parent privilege which is all about

00:06:11.040 the role that marriage plays in sustainable successful birth rate increases but also human thriving and

00:06:19.680 everything like you're just it's just so much more optimal across many measures for there to be

00:06:28.560 marriage involved in this process and there's a whole book you can read about this so yeah i mean it's

00:06:36.240 it's nice that increased male economic productivity boosted birth rates but i also would suspect that the

00:06:45.920 lifetime fertility of those non-married births or non-married women who had kids is not going to be beat by the 0.85

00:06:55.680 married women who started having kids during that maybe yeah i i would agree with that but i'd also

00:07:00.480 point out here interesting to me is that yes you can maintain a traditional culture so if you maintain

00:07:08.160 a traditional culture which shane's like out of wedlock births and stuff like that you're not going 0.99

00:07:11.920 to get the boost you know out of wedlock births from increased income but these traditional cultures

00:07:16.560 what they haven't been able to do is fix the marriage market problem they haven't been able to get

00:07:21.680 these people married and i think that we already see this you know as i point out like if i think

00:07:26.000 about like catholic young catholic influencers they're not even that young anymore you've got

00:07:29.360 like nick fuentes and pearl davis both of them are fairly conservative catholics neither of them are

00:07:33.920 married and they're like 30s now i think are like late 20s at this point they they i think they're both

00:07:40.080 in their 30s now yeah they have no yeah i think she's maybe like 28 now 29 but that is a huge market

00:07:48.240 failure right there which shows that it is actually how does this relate to how i raise my kids how

00:07:54.240 should i think about this well it means i can't just rely on the old ways i can't just try to go

00:07:57.440 back to the older system i need to focus on creating new systems new ways of relating to partnership and

00:08:05.120 marriage for them to ensure that they secure a partner while they're still breedable oh and also

00:08:10.960 yeah a partner that they're invested in long term i think that's the thing is you need we need to raise

00:08:15.840 closers and we collectively as a society have raised a generation of flakes they don't commit

00:08:23.840 they don't even commit to public opinions about things let alone partners i i think that a lot of

00:08:29.600 this comes down to teaching your kids that a partner is an investment they are not a payout and

00:08:36.880 they're not a courtesan they're not your best friend they're not your mother or father

00:08:42.080 no you you are investing in someone you want to be that perfect partner in 20 or 30 years

00:08:49.920 as a recent green text i mentioned from from 4chan where the guy found out that his girlfriend at

00:08:54.240 four his wife now they've been married and had kids and he's successful was like i should marry him

00:08:59.520 because he's nerdy and nerdy men make a lot of money i mean that's the way women need to think and 1.00

00:09:04.320 and he's like oh yeah she always pushed me yeah and appreciate it to work a bit harder on my grades

00:09:10.160 to take the you know the aggressive and it's like yeah because she approached him not from a he's rich

00:09:17.520 now perspective but he's someone that was my support could be rich and influential and i think the problem

00:09:24.640 is is that people are looking for the full package in who they're marrying they are not looking for the

00:09:31.040 outcome which is really bad i agree but okay so to go to some other studies where we might be able to

00:09:36.960 get some other ideas here linzo jason m 2010 are children really inferior goods remember we talked

00:09:45.040 about the two types of goods evidence from displacement driven income shocks this study

00:09:50.640 found that job displacement leads to a significant drop in fertility among women specifically there was

00:09:57.920 a 1.8 decrease in fertility 11 years after job loss that's not significant oh i mean that means

00:10:03.920 individually uh in the year immediately following displacement there was a four percent decrease

00:10:08.560 in fertility and this is women interestingly the the for males they found no significant impact

00:10:15.120 on fertility when they lost their jobs it was just in women where it decreased their fertility 0.99

00:10:19.920 which is really fascinating a woman with a job is having more kids than a woman who lost her job

00:10:28.160 that is interesting especially considering how you get as as a woman in the united states 0.82

00:10:34.720 depending on your state but most states are very generous with women who have low incomes who 1.00

00:10:40.960 are at or near the poverty line i i doubt women take that into effect when they're having kids maybe yeah yeah 1.00

00:10:46.720 and and and and here i would pause it or note fantastically that if you go up that study was in

00:10:56.080 2015 this didn't used to be the case so another study effect of job displacement on couples fertility

00:11:02.400 decisions found wife's job loss impact on fertility it found overall no statistically significant effect

00:11:08.640 on fertility when looking at all women together for highly educated women job displacement decreases

00:11:13.200 fertility significantly in years two to six years after displacement the effect appears to be

00:11:19.440 temporary post opponent as different as a difference in cumulative births decrease in later years so

00:11:27.120 it's not affecting you know fertility overall it's affecting it short term but you know that can have

00:11:31.120 an effect husband's job loss produces significant and persistent decrease fertility has virtually no effect

00:11:37.520 on women's employment except a small negative effect in year t plus one shows no consistent

00:11:43.120 effect on divorce rates only slightly negative effects in t plus four to t plus six years that's time

00:11:48.720 plus six like years um and this again if you want to look at this study is effect of job displacement

00:11:54.000 on couples fertility decisions let's see when this study was done 2010 so this trend flipped from 2010 to

00:12:02.400 2015 or one of the studies is just wrong okay job displacement that sounds like what you say when

00:12:09.040 you don't want to tell your parents you were fired it was a job displacement event at work recently and

00:12:15.760 i've been recently displaced from my profession oh my gosh okay so next year we've got 2019 study when

00:12:23.600 work disappears manufacturing decline and falling marriage market value of men this one trade shocks

00:12:30.400 disproportionately reduce employment and earnings of young males compared to young females i mean it had a

00:12:36.640 a bunch of other studies but it was all obvious stuff like what is a trade shock like an economic

00:12:42.240 recession that when you have a removal of an industry in a local area like let's say oh like a factory

00:12:48.720 shuts down or something unfortunately affects men and not women which like i i think is intuitively obvious

00:12:54.880 but i don't think a lot of people consider how much more uh vulnerable men are to economic shocks than

00:13:01.360 women are to economic shocks well yeah women have more of a social safety net typically i would say 1.00

00:13:08.480 both among friends and family and from the government so there's that yeah all right tiza et al 2022 for

00:13:16.000 every 100 individuals who won a large lottery prize there were five more children born within six years

00:13:22.000 compared to those who did not representing a 15 increase this was in taiwan that the city was done the

00:13:26.800 primary channel for this increased fertility was through first births among previously childless

00:13:31.040 individuals rather than additional children for those who already had children approximately 25

00:13:36.480 of the total fertility effect was attributable to increased marriage rates following the lottery win

00:13:42.080 very interesting the fertility effect was stronger for those who received larger windfall gains or having

00:13:47.760 lower pre-existing wealth levels and given that this was in taiwan i find this all very interesting

00:13:52.880 it it basically shows a moderate this basically means even if you gave people lottery level winnings it would

00:13:58.960 not increase the fertility rate enough even if we made your average citizen equal to a lottery winner

00:14:04.240 without affecting the rest of the economy it would not have have a 15 increase in fertility rates yeah 0.95

00:14:11.920 payouts don't work how many times are we going to say it payouts don't work uh a study using u.s

00:14:18.400 tax data and state lottery wins between 2000 and 2019 found that lottery winnings modestly accelerated

00:14:23.920 fertility but had little effect on total fertility so basically they make people have kids earlier

00:14:29.840 around the time of the lottery but you know don't increase total fertility the study by sassanari et

00:14:34.960 all 2023 using swedish lottery data reveals significant gender differences in how lottery winnings affect

00:14:41.120 marriage and fertility for men and we talked about this right this one yeah a 1 million sek lottery equal to

00:14:47.440 around 140 000 increase the probability of marriage was in five years by 4.7 percentage points for a total

00:14:55.280 30 percent increase i.e if you get a dump of 140 000 you're gonna have a 30 increase in getting married

00:15:02.720 that seems right to me but it's lower than i'd expect actually i guess a lot of people just don't

00:15:07.840 want to get married from the current cultural perspective for married men lottery wins reduce the

00:15:12.960 risk of divorce was in 10 years by six percentage points this is per year for a total reduction of

00:15:19.280 40 percent so for men having more money dramatically decreases the probability of divorce but i that

00:15:24.160 makes sense from even an evolutionary perspective of a woman feels she has a partner who is secure and

00:15:28.720 makes money as she one had said all women really want is a partner who can make them babies and provide 1.00

00:15:34.080 for the babies she used slightly other words but that's the point of it women want to be submissive 1.00

00:15:40.240 and breedable that's the point that's how evolution has coded each of us what's the the silly face you're

00:15:47.440 making there it goes against everything i was raised to fight for submissive and breedability i get so many

00:15:58.960 so many little alarm bells what what do you what do you think today i mean what do you think with the data

00:16:04.640 i think the data indicates that

00:16:15.520 women on average 1.00

00:16:19.200 benefit from being part of a meaningful family but i don't that is such a uh that is such a squirrely way

00:16:26.240 of wording it i'm talking specifically do we so when people say submissive and breedable i think they're

00:16:31.280 really thinking about like a stay-at-home stepford trophy wife which is not what women find meaningful 0.90

00:16:38.640 right i mean as we pointed out when women lose their jobs in a modern context the fertility is 1.00

00:16:42.960 impacted more than when men lose well but even like in the 1950s era or even like when sort of housewives

00:16:50.720 started sort of losing work to do i would say so even maybe around the turn of the century

00:16:56.160 this is when you start to see them turning to pretty hard drugs to deal with the anxiety

00:17:05.280 and the meaninglessness and the listlessness and and here's where they start yeah like they're on

00:17:12.000 amphetamines they're alcoholic i had to do full-time job yeah it's not ideal i think what women need is is 1.00

00:17:20.640 to be part of a corporate family to do work to have meaningful work in addition to rearing children

00:17:26.720 is really important so that's why i yeah i do take exception to terms like submissive and breedable

00:17:33.200 because that is not actually what women want and what women benefit from and when they're put in those 1.00

00:17:37.600 positions they go completely crazy but speaking of uh our son recently has become very we got really

00:17:45.360 worried because he comes and he's like i like really women are better mom and dad and he's

00:17:50.640 saying this he like won't do stuff with me now because i'm a man he's like yeah he'll be like

00:17:55.120 well daddy has to pay if he wants me to do this whereas mommy gets it for free i like girls better 1.00

00:18:00.720 and we're like not very worried about it yeah like i was like what is what is all of this about they

00:18:06.320 fill in his head with nonsense no what we learned and this has become a persistent issue i'd argue it's like

00:18:11.040 like 20 of what he talks about when he's talking about it's not 20 it's just a daily theme for sure

00:18:16.880 because i'm trying to get him to do things and he always says no because you're a man because you're a

00:18:20.560 man but but he will then follow up with and you can't have babies and that specifically men are 0.99

00:18:27.680 inferior because they cannot grow a baby in their belly yes and he makes this very clear this is this

00:18:33.920 is clearly his thing was women women make baby and i am so glad that however we did not try to 0.99

00:18:39.360 incept him with i do not know how he became obsessed with this differentiation well i came

00:18:43.840 up after i explained to him that you know we're trying to get pregnant and showing him ultrasounds

00:18:48.080 and being like hopefully this is your little brother etc etc and i mean he's he was used to the last

00:18:53.760 pregnancy because both the like me and our nanny were pregnant at the same time so like the kids are

00:19:01.760 very accustomed to pregnancy now so i think he's just like this is cool and he just now sees me as like

00:19:08.000 the cool 3d printer um of new siblings video him talking about wanting 100 siblings yeah i'm sure

00:19:16.960 to keep going he's like i'll help mom i'll help yeah he'll feed them a giant glass of milk so it's

00:19:21.520 fine he'll take care of them yeah worry about it but i love this because i can so imagine like one of

00:19:27.200 these like trans activists going to a school to try to convert him and he's like she they're like yeah

00:19:32.160 you can be a woman he'd be like oh my god i can be a woman like i can grow a baby in my belly i get

00:19:37.680 to grow a baby and they'd be like well no i mean you can't and he's like what the octavian would so 1.00

00:19:43.280 say something super offensive he's like uh why would you want to be a woman if you can't make babies 1.00

00:19:48.560 which is so based life destroying life shattering here by the way i've seen some things of like

00:19:55.360 arguments recently that trans people should be like breastfeeding their children like measuring 1.00

00:20:01.280 like the milk that they produce versus the milk that natal females produce to try to argue it has 0.99

00:20:06.800 similar nutritional properties i mean it doesn't but like they they want to argue it's close enough that

00:20:12.160 they should be doing breastfeeding as well to help them bond no not bond affirm their gender i mean 0.79

00:20:20.160 they don't care about the kids be honest here these are people who are when the amount of work

00:20:27.280 that a trans person or a gay person has to go through to have a child is heartbreaking both

00:20:35.680 financially and logistically how they care about their kids people trans people can just have kids 0.62

00:20:40.800 naturally not necessarily no most of them save sperm and stuff like that and they're married like yeah

00:20:48.800 well they'd still do ivf like they're still working all in the same bucket like come on

00:20:55.120 and i actually want to do more pushing against that on this show this idea of lgbtq trans people 0.92

00:21:01.440 fucking stapled themselves on to a people who are fighting for their lives like that is not they they 0.88

00:21:07.040 were not that important in the early game like it's weird like you look at like the stonewall things 1.00

00:21:12.320 and stuff like that and they're like oh it's all trans women it's like gay people in cross-dressers 0.91

00:21:15.680 like it wasn't there but no trans people there like they they have inserted themselves into history 0.99

00:21:20.720 and taken over the historical narrative of the fight for gay rights and continue to attempt to 0.84

00:21:28.960 i agree it is hard for gay people to have kids no gay person i know like no sane gay person is going to 1.00

00:21:34.080 try to breastfeed their kids true story yeah they're buying breast milk from other women and doing their 0.85

00:21:40.640 very best and not yeah yeah they're they're doing their best but they're not trying to breastfeed

00:21:46.640 the kids themselves this is weird stuff

00:21:56.560 anyway so male fertility increased all time horizons 10 years after winning men had 0.056 more children

00:22:04.640 per million sek1 a 13.5 increase in fertility overall well that doesn't sound like that much

00:22:12.240 again you can't fix this with with lotteries for women lottery wins had little effect on marriage

00:22:17.040 rates or long-term in this study again this is the study cesarina 2023 the only significant

00:22:23.440 effect for women was a near doubling of short-run probability of divorce and we've covered this story

00:22:29.040 before which if you give a woman a lot of money like out of the blue she gets divorced and tries to 0.99

00:22:33.840 trade up she doesn't have more kids and this has been quoted by a lot of progressives who want

00:22:38.640 to attack us they don't think you should give women for women shouldn't be allowed to like have money

00:22:42.720 and it's like no we were talking about like a lottery winning study but you know of course you

00:22:49.360 you having fun tickling maybe this is i think the biggest takeaway from all of this for me is people

00:22:56.880 more individual like oh increasing here does a little bit for fertility giving people a lottery

00:23:04.080 doesn't help female fertility blah blah blah blah blah blah but the biggest thing for me is even huge

00:23:10.000 amounts of money cannot affect fertility meaningfully well we we say this again and again yeah but like

00:23:17.840 yeah beyond little government payouts beyond fifty thousand dollars to people in south korea yeah this is

00:23:23.600 like even even lottery amounts not gonna do it even lottery amounts do they have like a 15 we're seeing

00:23:31.200 this or 13 here we're seeing this across studies they do not we need 200 we need 150 yeah but even then

00:23:40.880 especially if everyone got it i feel like it would still not be effective because then i imagine just

00:23:47.600 everyone would feel relatively poor or the same and a lot of this comes down to

00:23:53.280 if they feel relatively wealthy or well resourced vis-a-vis other people i don't know maybe i'm wrong

00:23:58.960 i mean i think it shows how deeply indulgent our society has become in a really negative context

00:24:05.520 that you know even if you have everything it's not enough yeah and that's really scary you know because

00:24:15.760 it means that you do need to build alternate cultures and and it also shows that you do not

00:24:21.840 you get a boost in regions where people aren't having out of wedlock marriages but not enough

00:24:25.680 of a boost to be like substantial so even in areas that have traditional cultural practices

00:24:32.160 lottery isn't enough and again i say the old ways won't save you you can't just yeah empowering men

00:24:38.480 economically again and i'm all for it i think that right now men are are unfairly disadvantaged in labor

00:24:45.040 markets and of course in many circumstances however just re-empowering men or on the inverse

00:24:52.400 disempowering women is not going to solve the problem and people keep just thinking like oh we'll 1.00

00:24:57.120 just just change this dial and it'll work no we have to create pandora's box has been opened and this

00:25:03.360 is something that you talked about in the pragmatist guide to crafting religion as well that you can't

00:25:08.160 once this box has been opened once we have the internet and globalization and we've developed

00:25:12.400 the equivalent the cultural equivalent of super viruses you don't get to undo that and just go

00:25:18.240 back to the old ways unless you choose to air gap your culture and religion and live like the amish 1.00

00:25:22.880 which still isn't going to work because you are living at the whims of the sovereignty of whoever is

00:25:27.120 allowing you to practice your cultural and religious freedom big if if they continue doing that

00:25:32.560 so we have to just develop a new way forward and there are things that can be done we've been

00:25:38.560 talking a lot internally about policy interventions that would make a big difference for prenatalism but

00:25:45.520 not really cost anything and i mean a big a big factor that we're talking about this morning is right now

00:25:52.560 in many ways it feels economically irresponsible to get married and so if at any point filing jointly

00:26:00.560 for example or as a married couple causes some kind of tax disadvantage that should be removed you

00:26:06.400 shouldn't be penalized by the irs if you're married you're doing you're doing the united states a

00:26:12.880 service by being married yes not be penalized oh there was i i can't remember what country this was

00:26:21.200 but i i learned about this one attempt to address this marriage issue where i think men in this country

00:26:28.160 got a penalty if they weren't married but the penalty could be waived if they could prove that a woman had 0.98

00:26:35.680 rejected their proposal oh this that there became this predatory class of female predatory enterprising 1.00

00:26:44.320 okay okay that would for a fee a reasonable fee i'm sure officially reject your proposal so that you

00:26:52.240 would be exempt from this this not married penalty the government had to stop that policy so did it

00:26:58.880 did it just still tax them no they just dropped the whole thing oh i wouldn't drop the whole thing i'd be like it doesn't

00:27:03.680 matter if you're rejected like do better yes try again try again a hole i know yeah the the the cop 0.94

00:27:13.040 out was that was that was stupid it was unnecessary but yeah god let's it was argentina in the 1900s 0.98

00:27:20.960 early 1900s fun fun humorous little fact here in chad now you are fined if you turn down a marriage 0.99

00:27:29.920 proposal that's between 23 and 39 for women and 15 for men and hilariously of women aged 20 to 24 in

00:27:41.040 this country as of 2015 60 were married when they were children so you know great country if you're

00:27:49.280 wondering what the motivation behind this law was the country's leadership says it was inspired by the

00:27:55.040 quran so you know religion of peace religion of peace note here that she is about to find another

00:28:02.560 instance in which this happened in italy but the more reported on instance was argentina oh really

00:28:09.680 who was it italy implemented a tax penalty for unmarried men in 1927 under benito mussolini's regime

00:28:17.520 this bachelor task tax could be waived if a man could prove that a woman had rejected his marriage

00:28:22.880 proposal like a south american country very interesting looks like a couple of countries

00:28:27.040 did try though in 1941 the ussr introduced a childlessness tax that applied to men age 25 to 50.

00:28:34.080 so childlessness too so just being married 25. you were supposed to have a kid by 25. yeah if you are

00:28:40.320 if you do not have a kid here how do you how have you not knocked someone up by 25. and no no so in

00:28:45.200 okay this isn't so 1941 in the ussr so this is like pre-world war ii this is interesting this is when

00:28:49.680 they're really trying to increase birth rates so the penalty also applied to women aged 20 to 45

00:28:55.600 who are unmarried and without women if you haven't had your first kid by 20 this is good tax here we 1.00

00:29:00.320 need to implement dirty indulgent slut how dare you not how dare you be 20 and not have at least one 1.00

00:29:08.320 child and apparently these are the norms this is what we need to be having kids 0.99

00:29:15.760 then in romania during nicolai

00:29:21.680 siukasu's regime a celibacy tax targeted unmarried adults and childless couples as part of a

00:29:29.040 pronatalist policy i didn't know about a celibacy tax i love that we call it like the incel tax now

00:29:36.640 the incel tax right and then post-world war ii poland a bachelor tax was briefly imposed on unmarried

00:29:43.280 men and childless couples to promote population so i let dink tax can you imagine but i yeah i think

00:29:50.560 more of it being like a tax break on income for married couples is more fair it seems unfair to

00:29:58.000 impose an additional tax and more fair to reward good behavior why why sticks why not carrots

00:30:03.840 because it's more fun i think i want yes an incel tax it is your expectation that you contribute to

00:30:13.520 society okay 20 to 45 ouch 20 to 45 jeez that's insane that's insane right indy you don't need to start 0.96

00:30:25.520 it that early andy you can start at 20 i'm not gonna i'm not gonna pressure you i mean if you're

00:30:32.240 not a t if you don't have teen pregnancies basically you know i i really was like bullish on this idea

00:30:37.200 that like by the time i'd had my last kid then i would immediately be moving on to my next like my

00:30:42.960 first grandkid and i was like ah yeah octavian's not going to be into that no he's into it you know oh

00:30:48.480 yeah he's like i know the purpose of women women are for breeding well and then there was this one 1.00

00:30:54.000 conversation i had with him where he was like will girls like me like he's really like he wants to

00:30:59.600 attract a good partner he it's really i'm like yeah i will i will show you how to get girls to like you

00:31:06.160 you need to act like a gentleman and take good care of yourself that's really sweet yeah i've saved all

00:31:15.280 of his valentines from kindergarten his his personality i won't say all of our kids torsten

00:31:23.280 may be a difficult partner for somebody no torsten is me and you like me so i like you as a female 1.00

00:31:32.080 you as a male might be a little too autistic no he's just gonna be a visionary ceo and so he can

00:31:37.920 have a stable of partners if torsten is rich yeah i can see him being a rich eccentric absolutely

00:31:44.240 collecting things he loves collecting things he can collect our daughter titan i would say oh my

00:31:49.760 god she is gonna be the easiest like to to pair off with somebody high quality she is very very very 0.54

00:31:56.400 happy all the time so fun she's so playful affectionate she really likes like affectionate

00:32:03.280 like aggressively affectionate i guess i'd say and really loves like playing pranks or breaking rules

00:32:10.480 um and i'm like this is like the core like slightly aggressively affectionate

00:32:19.200 you're gonna be very like yeah a gregarious tomboy yeah thing it's great

00:32:25.440 very tomboyish as well yeah let's see about you yeah

00:32:30.000 we don't know about you yeah for sure she's a lot like her sister all right love you the

00:32:36.480 death simone we're going taquitos tonight i actually have changed my mind on that and i think that the

00:32:43.440 the leftover curry that we have is better for the hash browns and then i can use the

00:32:49.600 ding-ding ground beef better for taquitos i think oh and it's that you haven't sawed the ding-ding

00:32:55.200 meat i mean i can do that immediately but we need to use up the curry that's refrigerated first

00:33:00.480 yeah it'll go better on well i'm okay with using it on hash browns or taquitos whatever you want to do

00:33:06.000 well i wanted to i'll i'll do it on hash browns because is it easier for hash browns yeah because

00:33:11.680 if i do taquitos i have to take it i have to like thinly slice or kind of mash everything so that you

00:33:16.800 have because otherwise there are giant chicken chunks in your uh taquitos yeah i'm okay with either

00:33:22.400 just your taquitos are amazing so whatever you want to do and tomorrow night will be taquito night

00:33:27.120 okay bear with me here and dan would go well with taquitos anyway i agree with that i think so with

00:33:31.760 like cheddar sharp cheddar cheese and dan dan oh yeah noodle meat we gotta use the rest of that mozzarella

00:33:39.840 no god what is wrong you do not understand cheese at all you think mozzarella goes in taquitos

00:33:46.640 what is wrong with you and it's expired anyway you can't eat expired dairy you like freak out

00:33:55.920 so i'm eating it slice by slice because i can drink expired milk you can't

00:34:02.560 you're smelling like this is this is marrying a hardcore like Appalachian wife yeah like when our 1.00

00:34:08.320 food expires that's like oh okay i'll eat it and like Malcolm smells and he's like

00:34:12.480 like dirtiness of of this woman is incredible this is what we need in america women who eat 1.00

00:34:19.680 the expired meat for them someone's got to do it are throwing this steak by the way

00:34:25.840 well done don't forget okay i love you to death i am genuinely satisfied with you as a wife you're

00:34:31.680 doing a good enough job right now i won't you won't defenestrate me even though you're not submissive

00:34:38.320 and breedable you you've confirmed this what does that like sorry it's a meme i love it

00:34:52.640 it's a meme made by incels for incels as you know no no no no no no no it's the meme made for incels me

00:35:02.720 just like facebook was originally made for you so you could watch all of your former

00:35:10.960 classmates slowly fail yeah that's what i'm here for the burning ships

00:35:18.880 oh i love you the testimony you are amazing i love you too all right i'll see you downstairs in a little

00:35:26.000 bit you're the best you're the best oh god

Based Camp - March 28, 2025

Higher Earnings No Longer Lead to Marriage： Culture is Changing

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