Higher Earnings No Longer Lead to Marriage： Culture is Changing
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In this episode, we discuss two new economic studies that look at the link between economic growth and marriage rates and fertility rates. Surprisingly, for males, there was no increase in marriage rates as a result of economic growth. In fact, the opposite was actually the case.
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hello simone today we are going to be talking about some studies that recently came out well
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some recently came out some came out a while ago but looking at the topic of how earnings affect
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marriage rates and fertility rates that surprisingly for males they no longer seem to increase marriage
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against the narrative that you always hear on the right yeah this is yeah this is important
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in fact we did an episode in which we read one of arctotherium's articles on aporia where he
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basically posited that the solution to birth rates would be to effectively economically disempower
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women by sort of removing them from bureaucratic roles or eliminating those roles entirely and to
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economically re-empower men with the supposition that this will increase marriage rates turns out
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that's not how it plays out in reality at least in a post women earning money and having careers era
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yeah all right so i'll start here with the first study this is a new one that i found really
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interesting male earnings marriageable men and the non-meritable fertility evidence from the fracking
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boom so this study exploited the economic shock from fracking booms across the u.s regions from 1997 to
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2012 fracking created localized economic booms that significantly increased wages for non-college
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educated men they examined how marriage and birth rates responded to these economic improvements
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key findings labor market effects fracking brooms increased earnings for men without college degrees
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by 4.4 percent per thousand dollars of new production per capital job opportunities also increased for
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these men with spillover effects beyond the oil and gas industry birth effects both marital and non-marital
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births increased increased in response to fracking booms the increase was statistically significant
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for both types of births this suggests children are quote-unquote normal goods people have more when
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income rises so i need to break down that a little bit because another study is going to look at this as
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well which is to say that there are some types of goods that people consume more of as income declines or in
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economic slumps oh oh yeah like i remember when we used to work in the private equity world more
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one one period a group of investors were like oh yeah we love nail salons because during recessions
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women go to them more because it's like one of those small indulgences that they can still afford even if
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they don't want to buy more of like fancy soaps in a fancy soap company people do more on where are some of the
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other things people do more on but they do more entertainment they do more video games video games
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go up in recessions movies i think go up in recessions other types of entertainment goes up
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so kids are not that type of good and and know what's being said here births increase as money
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increases for uneducated men which is great this is an area where that is really interesting that
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basically out of wedlock births are increasing and people are choosing to have kids when they have more
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money just not in west last year is it a similar economic impact from the ubi study did not increase
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first so handouts not so much but increasing the jobs or economy male economic empowerment does yes
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yeah okay but to marriage effects this is where it gets more interesting contrary to the reverse
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marriageable men hypothesis there was no evidence that marriage rates increased the data showed no
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reduction in never married rates or increase in marriageable rates these findings were consistent
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across different modal specifications fascinating social context comparison they compared these results
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to the appellation coal boom of the 1970s to 80s during the earlier coal boom increased earnings led to
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more marriages and marital births was a decrease in non-marital births this contract suggests social norms may
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have changed may have changed they've definitely changed that's what yeah something has clearly
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changed i mean it reminds me a lot of sweden how they're there there are a lot of parents who just
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aren't married and it's sort of after that becomes normalized it's really hard to get people to marry again
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what's interesting here is that areas with high baseline non-marital birth rates showed a similar
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increase in marital and non-marital births but areas with low baseline non-marital birth rates only showed
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an increase in an increase in marital births basically this means if you live in an area where
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people were already having a lot of kids outside of marriage then you have an increase in the number
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of kids they're having outside of marriage if you don't if you live in like a more conservative
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religious area then that doesn't increase the non-marital births which is really fascinating
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so the authors conclude that while improved economic prospects for men might have previously led to more
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marriages before childbearing in today's context economic improvements lead to more births both
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marital and non-marital without necessarily increasing marriage rates and in great natural
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experiment there was the regions where you already have a lot of out of marriage births and the regions
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where you don't which shows that in some regions they've maintained this older culture um but in the
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regions where they've maintained the older culture fascinatingly it didn't lead to more marriages
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that's really interesting it did really it looks at the interplay between economics and culture in
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a way i haven't seen research do for quite some time and it's so fun to see that someone looked at this
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isn't that fascinating but let's do some other studies so we can we can drill into what other
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people have found on this particular subject actually i want to pontificate on this more
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okay um getting getting lounge malcolm here so what does this mean it means that anything you could
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do to increase economic situations is good for fertility rates so increasing general economy increases birth
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rate thus doge elon amazing for everyone but government employees um uh yeah except so the whole reason i
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learned about this study was from the researcher's book the two-parent privilege which is all about
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the role that marriage plays in sustainable successful birth rate increases but also human thriving and
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everything like you're just it's just so much more optimal across many measures for there to be
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marriage involved in this process and there's a whole book you can read about this so yeah i mean it's
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it's nice that increased male economic productivity boosted birth rates but i also would suspect that the
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lifetime fertility of those non-married births or non-married women who had kids is not going to be beat by the
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married women who started having kids during that maybe yeah i i would agree with that but i'd also
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point out here interesting to me is that yes you can maintain a traditional culture so if you maintain
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a traditional culture which shane's like out of wedlock births and stuff like that you're not going
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to get the boost you know out of wedlock births from increased income but these traditional cultures
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what they haven't been able to do is fix the marriage market problem they haven't been able to get
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these people married and i think that we already see this you know as i point out like if i think
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about like catholic young catholic influencers they're not even that young anymore you've got
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like nick fuentes and pearl davis both of them are fairly conservative catholics neither of them are
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married and they're like 30s now i think are like late 20s at this point they they i think they're both
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in their 30s now yeah they have no yeah i think she's maybe like 28 now 29 but that is a huge market
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failure right there which shows that it is actually how does this relate to how i raise my kids how
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should i think about this well it means i can't just rely on the old ways i can't just try to go
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back to the older system i need to focus on creating new systems new ways of relating to partnership and
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marriage for them to ensure that they secure a partner while they're still breedable oh and also
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yeah a partner that they're invested in long term i think that's the thing is you need we need to raise
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closers and we collectively as a society have raised a generation of flakes they don't commit
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they don't even commit to public opinions about things let alone partners i i think that a lot of
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this comes down to teaching your kids that a partner is an investment they are not a payout and
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they're not a courtesan they're not your best friend they're not your mother or father
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no you you are investing in someone you want to be that perfect partner in 20 or 30 years
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as a recent green text i mentioned from from 4chan where the guy found out that his girlfriend at
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four his wife now they've been married and had kids and he's successful was like i should marry him
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because he's nerdy and nerdy men make a lot of money i mean that's the way women need to think and
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and he's like oh yeah she always pushed me yeah and appreciate it to work a bit harder on my grades
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to take the you know the aggressive and it's like yeah because she approached him not from a he's rich
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now perspective but he's someone that was my support could be rich and influential and i think the problem
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is is that people are looking for the full package in who they're marrying they are not looking for the
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outcome which is really bad i agree but okay so to go to some other studies where we might be able to
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get some other ideas here linzo jason m 2010 are children really inferior goods remember we talked
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about the two types of goods evidence from displacement driven income shocks this study
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found that job displacement leads to a significant drop in fertility among women specifically there was
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a 1.8 decrease in fertility 11 years after job loss that's not significant oh i mean that means
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individually uh in the year immediately following displacement there was a four percent decrease
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in fertility and this is women interestingly the the for males they found no significant impact
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on fertility when they lost their jobs it was just in women where it decreased their fertility
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which is really fascinating a woman with a job is having more kids than a woman who lost her job
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that is interesting especially considering how you get as as a woman in the united states
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depending on your state but most states are very generous with women who have low incomes who
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are at or near the poverty line i i doubt women take that into effect when they're having kids maybe yeah yeah
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and and and and here i would pause it or note fantastically that if you go up that study was in
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2015 this didn't used to be the case so another study effect of job displacement on couples fertility
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decisions found wife's job loss impact on fertility it found overall no statistically significant effect
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on fertility when looking at all women together for highly educated women job displacement decreases
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fertility significantly in years two to six years after displacement the effect appears to be
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temporary post opponent as different as a difference in cumulative births decrease in later years so
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it's not affecting you know fertility overall it's affecting it short term but you know that can have
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an effect husband's job loss produces significant and persistent decrease fertility has virtually no effect
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on women's employment except a small negative effect in year t plus one shows no consistent
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effect on divorce rates only slightly negative effects in t plus four to t plus six years that's time
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plus six like years um and this again if you want to look at this study is effect of job displacement
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on couples fertility decisions let's see when this study was done 2010 so this trend flipped from 2010 to
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2015 or one of the studies is just wrong okay job displacement that sounds like what you say when
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you don't want to tell your parents you were fired it was a job displacement event at work recently and
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i've been recently displaced from my profession oh my gosh okay so next year we've got 2019 study when
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work disappears manufacturing decline and falling marriage market value of men this one trade shocks
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disproportionately reduce employment and earnings of young males compared to young females i mean it had a
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a bunch of other studies but it was all obvious stuff like what is a trade shock like an economic
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recession that when you have a removal of an industry in a local area like let's say oh like a factory
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shuts down or something unfortunately affects men and not women which like i i think is intuitively obvious
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but i don't think a lot of people consider how much more uh vulnerable men are to economic shocks than
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women are to economic shocks well yeah women have more of a social safety net typically i would say
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both among friends and family and from the government so there's that yeah all right tiza et al 2022 for
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every 100 individuals who won a large lottery prize there were five more children born within six years
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compared to those who did not representing a 15 increase this was in taiwan that the city was done the
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primary channel for this increased fertility was through first births among previously childless
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individuals rather than additional children for those who already had children approximately 25
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of the total fertility effect was attributable to increased marriage rates following the lottery win
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very interesting the fertility effect was stronger for those who received larger windfall gains or having
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lower pre-existing wealth levels and given that this was in taiwan i find this all very interesting
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it it basically shows a moderate this basically means even if you gave people lottery level winnings it would
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not increase the fertility rate enough even if we made your average citizen equal to a lottery winner
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without affecting the rest of the economy it would not have have a 15 increase in fertility rates yeah
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payouts don't work how many times are we going to say it payouts don't work uh a study using u.s
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tax data and state lottery wins between 2000 and 2019 found that lottery winnings modestly accelerated
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fertility but had little effect on total fertility so basically they make people have kids earlier
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around the time of the lottery but you know don't increase total fertility the study by sassanari et
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all 2023 using swedish lottery data reveals significant gender differences in how lottery winnings affect
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marriage and fertility for men and we talked about this right this one yeah a 1 million sek lottery equal to
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around 140 000 increase the probability of marriage was in five years by 4.7 percentage points for a total
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30 percent increase i.e if you get a dump of 140 000 you're gonna have a 30 increase in getting married
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that seems right to me but it's lower than i'd expect actually i guess a lot of people just don't
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want to get married from the current cultural perspective for married men lottery wins reduce the
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risk of divorce was in 10 years by six percentage points this is per year for a total reduction of
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40 percent so for men having more money dramatically decreases the probability of divorce but i that
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makes sense from even an evolutionary perspective of a woman feels she has a partner who is secure and
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makes money as she one had said all women really want is a partner who can make them babies and provide
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for the babies she used slightly other words but that's the point of it women want to be submissive
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and breedable that's the point that's how evolution has coded each of us what's the the silly face you're
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making there it goes against everything i was raised to fight for submissive and breedability i get so many
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so many little alarm bells what what do you what do you think today i mean what do you think with the data
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benefit from being part of a meaningful family but i don't that is such a uh that is such a squirrely way
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of wording it i'm talking specifically do we so when people say submissive and breedable i think they're
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really thinking about like a stay-at-home stepford trophy wife which is not what women find meaningful
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right i mean as we pointed out when women lose their jobs in a modern context the fertility is
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impacted more than when men lose well but even like in the 1950s era or even like when sort of housewives
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started sort of losing work to do i would say so even maybe around the turn of the century
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this is when you start to see them turning to pretty hard drugs to deal with the anxiety
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and the meaninglessness and the listlessness and and here's where they start yeah like they're on
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amphetamines they're alcoholic i had to do full-time job yeah it's not ideal i think what women need is is
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to be part of a corporate family to do work to have meaningful work in addition to rearing children
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is really important so that's why i yeah i do take exception to terms like submissive and breedable
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because that is not actually what women want and what women benefit from and when they're put in those
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positions they go completely crazy but speaking of uh our son recently has become very we got really
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worried because he comes and he's like i like really women are better mom and dad and he's
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saying this he like won't do stuff with me now because i'm a man he's like yeah he'll be like
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well daddy has to pay if he wants me to do this whereas mommy gets it for free i like girls better
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and we're like not very worried about it yeah like i was like what is what is all of this about they
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fill in his head with nonsense no what we learned and this has become a persistent issue i'd argue it's like
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like 20 of what he talks about when he's talking about it's not 20 it's just a daily theme for sure
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because i'm trying to get him to do things and he always says no because you're a man because you're a
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man but but he will then follow up with and you can't have babies and that specifically men are
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inferior because they cannot grow a baby in their belly yes and he makes this very clear this is this
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is clearly his thing was women women make baby and i am so glad that however we did not try to
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incept him with i do not know how he became obsessed with this differentiation well i came
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up after i explained to him that you know we're trying to get pregnant and showing him ultrasounds
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and being like hopefully this is your little brother etc etc and i mean he's he was used to the last
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pregnancy because both the like me and our nanny were pregnant at the same time so like the kids are
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very accustomed to pregnancy now so i think he's just like this is cool and he just now sees me as like
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the cool 3d printer um of new siblings video him talking about wanting 100 siblings yeah i'm sure
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to keep going he's like i'll help mom i'll help yeah he'll feed them a giant glass of milk so it's
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fine he'll take care of them yeah worry about it but i love this because i can so imagine like one of
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these like trans activists going to a school to try to convert him and he's like she they're like yeah
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you can be a woman he'd be like oh my god i can be a woman like i can grow a baby in my belly i get
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to grow a baby and they'd be like well no i mean you can't and he's like what the octavian would so
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say something super offensive he's like uh why would you want to be a woman if you can't make babies
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which is so based life destroying life shattering here by the way i've seen some things of like
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arguments recently that trans people should be like breastfeeding their children like measuring
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like the milk that they produce versus the milk that natal females produce to try to argue it has
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similar nutritional properties i mean it doesn't but like they they want to argue it's close enough that
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they should be doing breastfeeding as well to help them bond no not bond affirm their gender i mean
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they don't care about the kids be honest here these are people who are when the amount of work
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that a trans person or a gay person has to go through to have a child is heartbreaking both
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financially and logistically how they care about their kids people trans people can just have kids
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naturally not necessarily no most of them save sperm and stuff like that and they're married like yeah
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well they'd still do ivf like they're still working all in the same bucket like come on
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and i actually want to do more pushing against that on this show this idea of lgbtq trans people
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fucking stapled themselves on to a people who are fighting for their lives like that is not they they
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were not that important in the early game like it's weird like you look at like the stonewall things
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and stuff like that and they're like oh it's all trans women it's like gay people in cross-dressers
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like it wasn't there but no trans people there like they they have inserted themselves into history
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and taken over the historical narrative of the fight for gay rights and continue to attempt to
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i agree it is hard for gay people to have kids no gay person i know like no sane gay person is going to
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try to breastfeed their kids true story yeah they're buying breast milk from other women and doing their
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very best and not yeah yeah they're they're doing their best but they're not trying to breastfeed
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anyway so male fertility increased all time horizons 10 years after winning men had 0.056 more children
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per million sek1 a 13.5 increase in fertility overall well that doesn't sound like that much
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again you can't fix this with with lotteries for women lottery wins had little effect on marriage
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rates or long-term in this study again this is the study cesarina 2023 the only significant
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effect for women was a near doubling of short-run probability of divorce and we've covered this story
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before which if you give a woman a lot of money like out of the blue she gets divorced and tries to
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trade up she doesn't have more kids and this has been quoted by a lot of progressives who want
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to attack us they don't think you should give women for women shouldn't be allowed to like have money
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and it's like no we were talking about like a lottery winning study but you know of course you
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you having fun tickling maybe this is i think the biggest takeaway from all of this for me is people
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more individual like oh increasing here does a little bit for fertility giving people a lottery
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doesn't help female fertility blah blah blah blah blah blah but the biggest thing for me is even huge
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amounts of money cannot affect fertility meaningfully well we we say this again and again yeah but like
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yeah beyond little government payouts beyond fifty thousand dollars to people in south korea yeah this is
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like even even lottery amounts not gonna do it even lottery amounts do they have like a 15 we're seeing
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this or 13 here we're seeing this across studies they do not we need 200 we need 150 yeah but even then
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especially if everyone got it i feel like it would still not be effective because then i imagine just
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everyone would feel relatively poor or the same and a lot of this comes down to
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if they feel relatively wealthy or well resourced vis-a-vis other people i don't know maybe i'm wrong
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i mean i think it shows how deeply indulgent our society has become in a really negative context
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that you know even if you have everything it's not enough yeah and that's really scary you know because
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it means that you do need to build alternate cultures and and it also shows that you do not
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you get a boost in regions where people aren't having out of wedlock marriages but not enough
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of a boost to be like substantial so even in areas that have traditional cultural practices
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lottery isn't enough and again i say the old ways won't save you you can't just yeah empowering men
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economically again and i'm all for it i think that right now men are are unfairly disadvantaged in labor
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markets and of course in many circumstances however just re-empowering men or on the inverse
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disempowering women is not going to solve the problem and people keep just thinking like oh we'll
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just just change this dial and it'll work no we have to create pandora's box has been opened and this
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is something that you talked about in the pragmatist guide to crafting religion as well that you can't
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once this box has been opened once we have the internet and globalization and we've developed
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the equivalent the cultural equivalent of super viruses you don't get to undo that and just go
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back to the old ways unless you choose to air gap your culture and religion and live like the amish
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which still isn't going to work because you are living at the whims of the sovereignty of whoever is
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allowing you to practice your cultural and religious freedom big if if they continue doing that
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so we have to just develop a new way forward and there are things that can be done we've been
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talking a lot internally about policy interventions that would make a big difference for prenatalism but
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not really cost anything and i mean a big a big factor that we're talking about this morning is right now
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in many ways it feels economically irresponsible to get married and so if at any point filing jointly
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for example or as a married couple causes some kind of tax disadvantage that should be removed you
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shouldn't be penalized by the irs if you're married you're doing you're doing the united states a
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service by being married yes not be penalized oh there was i i can't remember what country this was
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but i i learned about this one attempt to address this marriage issue where i think men in this country
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got a penalty if they weren't married but the penalty could be waived if they could prove that a woman had
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rejected their proposal oh this that there became this predatory class of female predatory enterprising
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okay okay that would for a fee a reasonable fee i'm sure officially reject your proposal so that you
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would be exempt from this this not married penalty the government had to stop that policy so did it
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did it just still tax them no they just dropped the whole thing oh i wouldn't drop the whole thing i'd be like it doesn't
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matter if you're rejected like do better yes try again try again a hole i know yeah the the the cop
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out was that was that was stupid it was unnecessary but yeah god let's it was argentina in the 1900s
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early 1900s fun fun humorous little fact here in chad now you are fined if you turn down a marriage
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proposal that's between 23 and 39 for women and 15 for men and hilariously of women aged 20 to 24 in
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this country as of 2015 60 were married when they were children so you know great country if you're
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wondering what the motivation behind this law was the country's leadership says it was inspired by the
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quran so you know religion of peace religion of peace note here that she is about to find another
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instance in which this happened in italy but the more reported on instance was argentina oh really
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who was it italy implemented a tax penalty for unmarried men in 1927 under benito mussolini's regime
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this bachelor task tax could be waived if a man could prove that a woman had rejected his marriage
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proposal like a south american country very interesting looks like a couple of countries
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did try though in 1941 the ussr introduced a childlessness tax that applied to men age 25 to 50.
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so childlessness too so just being married 25. you were supposed to have a kid by 25. yeah if you are
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if you do not have a kid here how do you how have you not knocked someone up by 25. and no no so in
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okay this isn't so 1941 in the ussr so this is like pre-world war ii this is interesting this is when
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they're really trying to increase birth rates so the penalty also applied to women aged 20 to 45
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who are unmarried and without women if you haven't had your first kid by 20 this is good tax here we
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need to implement dirty indulgent slut how dare you not how dare you be 20 and not have at least one
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child and apparently these are the norms this is what we need to be having kids
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siukasu's regime a celibacy tax targeted unmarried adults and childless couples as part of a
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pronatalist policy i didn't know about a celibacy tax i love that we call it like the incel tax now
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the incel tax right and then post-world war ii poland a bachelor tax was briefly imposed on unmarried
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men and childless couples to promote population so i let dink tax can you imagine but i yeah i think
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more of it being like a tax break on income for married couples is more fair it seems unfair to
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impose an additional tax and more fair to reward good behavior why why sticks why not carrots
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because it's more fun i think i want yes an incel tax it is your expectation that you contribute to
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society okay 20 to 45 ouch 20 to 45 jeez that's insane that's insane right indy you don't need to start
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it that early andy you can start at 20 i'm not gonna i'm not gonna pressure you i mean if you're
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not a t if you don't have teen pregnancies basically you know i i really was like bullish on this idea
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that like by the time i'd had my last kid then i would immediately be moving on to my next like my
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first grandkid and i was like ah yeah octavian's not going to be into that no he's into it you know oh
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yeah he's like i know the purpose of women women are for breeding well and then there was this one
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conversation i had with him where he was like will girls like me like he's really like he wants to
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attract a good partner he it's really i'm like yeah i will i will show you how to get girls to like you
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you need to act like a gentleman and take good care of yourself that's really sweet yeah i've saved all
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of his valentines from kindergarten his his personality i won't say all of our kids torsten
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may be a difficult partner for somebody no torsten is me and you like me so i like you as a female
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you as a male might be a little too autistic no he's just gonna be a visionary ceo and so he can
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have a stable of partners if torsten is rich yeah i can see him being a rich eccentric absolutely
00:31:44.240
collecting things he loves collecting things he can collect our daughter titan i would say oh my
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god she is gonna be the easiest like to to pair off with somebody high quality she is very very very
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happy all the time so fun she's so playful affectionate she really likes like affectionate
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like aggressively affectionate i guess i'd say and really loves like playing pranks or breaking rules
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um and i'm like this is like the core like slightly aggressively affectionate
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you're gonna be very like yeah a gregarious tomboy yeah thing it's great
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very tomboyish as well yeah let's see about you yeah
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we don't know about you yeah for sure she's a lot like her sister all right love you the
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death simone we're going taquitos tonight i actually have changed my mind on that and i think that the
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the leftover curry that we have is better for the hash browns and then i can use the
00:32:49.600
ding-ding ground beef better for taquitos i think oh and it's that you haven't sawed the ding-ding
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meat i mean i can do that immediately but we need to use up the curry that's refrigerated first
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yeah it'll go better on well i'm okay with using it on hash browns or taquitos whatever you want to do
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well i wanted to i'll i'll do it on hash browns because is it easier for hash browns yeah because
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if i do taquitos i have to take it i have to like thinly slice or kind of mash everything so that you
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have because otherwise there are giant chicken chunks in your uh taquitos yeah i'm okay with either
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just your taquitos are amazing so whatever you want to do and tomorrow night will be taquito night
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okay bear with me here and dan would go well with taquitos anyway i agree with that i think so with
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like cheddar sharp cheddar cheese and dan dan oh yeah noodle meat we gotta use the rest of that mozzarella
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no god what is wrong you do not understand cheese at all you think mozzarella goes in taquitos
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what is wrong with you and it's expired anyway you can't eat expired dairy you like freak out
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so i'm eating it slice by slice because i can drink expired milk you can't
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you're smelling like this is this is marrying a hardcore like Appalachian wife yeah like when our
00:34:08.320
food expires that's like oh okay i'll eat it and like Malcolm smells and he's like
00:34:12.480
like dirtiness of of this woman is incredible this is what we need in america women who eat
00:34:19.680
the expired meat for them someone's got to do it are throwing this steak by the way
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well done don't forget okay i love you to death i am genuinely satisfied with you as a wife you're
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doing a good enough job right now i won't you won't defenestrate me even though you're not submissive
00:34:38.320
and breedable you you've confirmed this what does that like sorry it's a meme i love it
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it's a meme made by incels for incels as you know no no no no no no no it's the meme made for incels me
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just like facebook was originally made for you so you could watch all of your former
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classmates slowly fail yeah that's what i'm here for the burning ships
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oh i love you the testimony you are amazing i love you too all right i'll see you downstairs in a little