Based Camp - January 05, 2026


Higher % of Anime Nerds in Latin America than Japan?!


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

157.55513

Word Count

7,008

Sentence Count

214

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

America is dealing with a serious problem. A flood of immigrants from Latin America, and if you know anything about Latin Americans, you know exactly what type of people they are. They re nerds. But no, in reality, if you are unfamiliar with this phenomenon, Latin America is shockingly nerdy. When I say nerdy, I mean that in terms of internet usage, when you ask people the percentage of internet users who enjoy anime, the number in Brazil is higher than the percent in Japan.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today.
00:00:04.080 America is dealing with a serious problem.
00:00:07.680 A flood of immigrants from Latin America.
00:00:11.220 And if you know anything about Latin Americans,
00:00:13.180 you know exactly what type of people they are.
00:00:16.360 Standard nerds.
00:00:19.300 But no, in reality, if you are unfamiliar with this phenomenon,
00:00:24.800 Latin America is shockingly nerdy.
00:00:27.900 When I say shockingly nerdy, well, I can start with a parade
00:00:32.680 that they held in service, this was in Mexico,
00:00:36.100 to a character in Dragon Ball Z dying.
00:00:39.200 Oh, don't forget that in the protests that are taking place right now,
00:00:42.620 there are one-piece flags flying.
00:00:45.140 Yeah, well, they've been doing that in a lot of countries.
00:00:46.760 Here's a showing of Dragon Ball Z outside in Latin America
00:00:51.260 to give you an example of how big they are.
00:00:57.900 But if we're talking about specific statistics,
00:01:12.380 did you know that in Brazil,
00:01:15.460 when you ask people the percentage of internet users who enjoy anime,
00:01:19.760 the number, the percent in Brazil is higher than the percent in Japan.
00:01:25.900 That is how nerdy they are.
00:01:27.980 So to go over that,
00:01:28.700 and we're going to go over why this is after we go over all the statistics,
00:01:31.660 but to go over the statistics here,
00:01:33.880 in Brazil, it's between 42 to 45% in recent estimates.
00:01:38.220 In Mexico, it's 41 to 44%.
00:01:40.960 In Japan, it is 38 to 42%,
00:01:45.500 so less than Mexico or Brazil.
00:01:48.040 Wow.
00:01:48.380 And compared to the U.S.,
00:01:50.080 so keep in mind, in Mexico and Brazil,
00:01:51.800 you're looking at like 41 to 42 to like 45%.
00:01:54.440 In the U.S., it's 15 to 21%.
00:01:57.040 Oh my gosh.
00:01:58.040 So when I say they're like nerdier,
00:02:00.700 and we're going to go over other nerdy hobbies too,
00:02:02.680 because they are nerdier across the spectrum.
00:02:05.500 Really?
00:02:05.900 I mean, like, demonstrably nerdier.
00:02:08.840 Like D&D nerdy?
00:02:10.280 Like not just not me,
00:02:11.820 but they're nerdy?
00:02:12.200 They're way more into video games
00:02:13.520 than people in the United States or Europe as well.
00:02:15.560 Oh, wow.
00:02:16.020 Okay.
00:02:17.080 And no, this isn't just United States.
00:02:18.760 This is basically all other countries,
00:02:20.680 including Japan, they're nerdier than.
00:02:22.420 In the U.K., anime is 15 to 21%, right?
00:02:26.360 And this is from the pair of consumer data.
00:02:28.420 Wow, that's so low.
00:02:29.940 If you look at watch time weekly of anime, right?
00:02:33.380 Like how much...
00:02:34.160 Oh, by the way,
00:02:34.780 if you're wondering like Crunchyroll data,
00:02:36.920 actually we'll get to that in a second.
00:02:38.060 But watch time weekly,
00:02:40.660 Brazil, Mexico, 35 to 35.
00:02:43.400 This is aligned with streaming surveys.
00:02:45.500 This is anime watch time weekly
00:02:47.060 of like what they're watching as anime.
00:02:49.340 That's 40%.
00:02:50.160 So it's a little below Japan.
00:02:51.560 And in Mexico, it's 36%.
00:02:53.240 In Europe, it's 20 to 25%.
00:02:54.820 And then if you look at percent choosing anime
00:02:58.460 as your favorite genre,
00:03:00.040 LATAM has the highest rate anywhere globally, 28%.
00:03:02.880 Nice, guys.
00:03:04.400 Japan is 17%.
00:03:07.120 U.S. Canada, 16%.
00:03:09.820 And then EMA, including the U.K., is 12%.
00:03:13.540 And if you look at APAC, like whatever,
00:03:17.720 you're looking at 17%.
00:03:18.900 Okay, so Crunchyroll.
00:03:21.160 Crunchyroll viewership by language.
00:03:23.620 Spanish dubs make up 40% of viewing on the platform.
00:03:30.620 Wow.
00:03:31.760 English dubs are only 30 to 40%.
00:03:34.520 So more people watch anime on Crunchyroll in Spanish
00:03:39.840 than in English collectively.
00:03:42.220 Crunchyroll is a U.S. incorporated entity, right?
00:03:46.400 So I think we applied to jobs there once
00:03:48.300 and it was like, it was in Austin or Texas, I think?
00:03:52.320 I think so.
00:03:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:03:53.560 If you look at Japanese exports of anime products,
00:03:56.840 40% to 50% go Latin American.
00:03:59.480 Okay, so let's now be like, okay,
00:04:01.480 you can be like, it's just watching anime, right?
00:04:03.160 Like, it's not actually like nerd culture, okay?
00:04:07.200 Okay, I mean.
00:04:09.520 So in Brazil, they have like an anime pop culture convention
00:04:14.120 that it pulls in, it's called DCXP,
00:04:17.620 that pulls in 280,000 to 297,000 people.
00:04:22.860 It's like a city, that's huge.
00:04:26.040 It's literally twice the size of Comic-Con,
00:04:28.900 which is 135,000 people.
00:04:31.060 And then, if you're looking at the largest anime-only convention
00:04:38.180 in the United States, right?
00:04:39.860 Yeah.
00:04:40.300 That's Anime Expo, which is 100,000 to 115,000.
00:04:43.300 Is that the, wait, is that the San Jose one?
00:04:45.840 Yeah, the one that we used to.
00:04:46.860 That's the biggest one?
00:04:48.420 No, that's in Los Angeles.
00:04:49.780 Oh, okay.
00:04:51.020 But if you contrast that with anime friends in Brazil,
00:04:54.940 that brings in 80,000 to 100,000.
00:04:57.220 So about the same.
00:04:58.480 And then if you look at other,
00:05:00.000 so what I'm pointing out here is off the charts,
00:05:05.340 off the charts in terms of anime consumption.
00:05:07.940 And you can say, okay, well,
00:05:09.940 what about this video game thing you mentioned here?
00:05:11.920 All right?
00:05:12.180 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:13.020 So if you look at total player count in Latin America,
00:05:16.820 you have a total player count of 372.3 million people.
00:05:22.340 Contrast that with North America,
00:05:23.860 which is only 224.8 million people.
00:05:27.900 Huh.
00:05:28.560 If you look at,
00:05:30.340 so that means the Latin America has around 67% more players in the United States,
00:05:34.020 despite a smaller population.
00:05:36.040 Yeah.
00:05:36.640 If you're looking at this United States,
00:05:37.400 you're looking at 249 million.
00:05:38.900 Yeah.
00:05:39.900 Wow.
00:05:41.080 What is going on?
00:05:42.960 Okay.
00:05:43.200 If you look at,
00:05:44.120 let's see.
00:05:44.900 Ooh.
00:05:45.420 Okay.
00:05:45.680 I have some theories.
00:05:47.600 Yeah.
00:05:47.820 Also much higher.
00:05:48.900 What is it?
00:05:49.500 The e-sports viewership.
00:05:51.560 Okay.
00:05:51.700 So then I decided,
00:05:52.520 I was like,
00:05:52.860 okay,
00:05:52.980 let's try to go to other things.
00:05:53.940 Let's go to like furries and stuff like that.
00:05:55.720 Are they also more furries?
00:05:57.740 This was the only one where they do not appear to be more.
00:06:01.540 Ooh.
00:06:02.020 A lot of other things,
00:06:03.760 you see higher rates.
00:06:04.980 So before I go further,
00:06:06.020 and there's some common explanations that I don't really buy.
00:06:10.300 And we'll go on one of these common explanations.
00:06:12.760 I don't fully buy.
00:06:13.960 And then we'll get into what I actually think caused it.
00:06:16.800 The common explanation that I don't really buy that we'll go deeper on,
00:06:21.400 but just so you're aware is people say,
00:06:24.720 well,
00:06:25.700 Latin America was a highly sort of diverse marketplace where you didn't have a
00:06:30.180 lot of local content production.
00:06:31.940 And when they were buying children's shows,
00:06:34.520 they disproportionately bought the rights to anime shows over United States
00:06:38.760 shows.
00:06:39.800 And that led to this really high rate of anime watchership across Latin
00:06:44.000 America.
00:06:45.120 And I'm like,
00:06:45.760 okay,
00:06:46.200 but if that was true,
00:06:47.460 then why don't we see a similar phenomenon across Southern Europe?
00:06:50.760 Why don't we see a similar phenomenon in Eastern Europe?
00:06:53.880 Why don't we see a similar phenomenon in Africa?
00:06:56.500 Right?
00:06:56.680 Like all of them presumably could have gotten anime cheaper too.
00:07:01.440 So why is it specific to Latin America?
00:07:04.600 And note here,
00:07:05.140 it's not a Catholic thing.
00:07:06.120 You do not see any of these phenomenons mirrored in Southern Europe,
00:07:10.320 where actually anime consumption is lower than Northern Europe.
00:07:13.220 Another country that really surprised me is the largest manga in the world is
00:07:17.180 France.
00:07:17.700 So another Catholic majority country there.
00:07:19.500 So,
00:07:19.580 and also hopefully this makes,
00:07:24.260 I think a lot of people like trolled the Vatican for when the Vatican created
00:07:28.340 that anime girl as like their mascot.
00:07:30.320 She was adorable.
00:07:33.840 Yeah,
00:07:34.100 it's really cute.
00:07:34.800 I wish they went all in with that.
00:07:36.200 Like the Vatican comes to town and little Vatican,
00:07:40.180 you know,
00:07:40.780 Catholic girls everywhere.
00:07:41.780 Yes.
00:07:42.940 To clarify here,
00:07:44.360 just because we think the Vatican did one base thing,
00:07:47.020 and I think this was definitely base,
00:07:49.000 does not mean that I do not think that they are an institution that is not
00:07:52.740 diabolically evil.
00:07:54.460 Recently with the Maduro thing,
00:07:57.040 they decided to stand Maduro and be like,
00:08:00.060 oh,
00:08:00.240 we're concerned about the United States,
00:08:02.860 you know,
00:08:03.240 with Maduro,
00:08:04.380 never complaining about,
00:08:05.820 you know,
00:08:06.360 the people being tortured under Maduro,
00:08:08.940 right?
00:08:09.580 When people don't understand what we mean when we say that Vatican is the
00:08:13.100 number one like enemy of like good in the world,
00:08:15.780 in the United States and our geopolitical interests,
00:08:18.460 just look at their reaction to Maduro,
00:08:20.680 right?
00:08:20.880 And I wanted to do today's episode on Maduro,
00:08:22.520 but Simone doesn't record on weekends.
00:08:24.060 So you guys are going to get that tomorrow.
00:08:25.600 I was telling Simone,
00:08:26.640 it's so funny how much I like our Catholic fans.
00:08:29.740 It's a bit like,
00:08:30.540 you know,
00:08:30.800 you meet somebody who's like a henchman for Hydra and they're like,
00:08:33.680 and they're like really chill and you like hanging out with them.
00:08:35.880 And then you're like,
00:08:36.380 but like,
00:08:37.260 why,
00:08:38.000 why do you,
00:08:38.780 why do you hinge for Hydra,
00:08:40.040 man?
00:08:40.380 And they're like,
00:08:40.920 oh yeah,
00:08:41.580 I mean,
00:08:41.780 I don't,
00:08:42.120 I don't,
00:08:42.580 I don't agree with everything,
00:08:43.900 you know,
00:08:44.180 the people at the top are all about.
00:08:46.840 And I'm like,
00:08:47.540 but then why?
00:08:48.640 And they're like,
00:08:49.080 no,
00:08:49.260 no,
00:08:49.380 no,
00:08:49.520 no,
00:08:49.640 you don't understand.
00:08:50.560 Every large corporation has some corruption at the top.
00:08:54.620 I mean,
00:08:55.220 the red skull,
00:08:56.000 he's just,
00:08:56.460 he's a,
00:08:56.860 he's a whack.
00:08:57.940 He's silly.
00:08:58.840 You know,
00:08:59.000 he does his own thing.
00:09:00.040 I'm just a,
00:09:00.740 you know,
00:09:00.980 a typical henchman.
00:09:01.940 I believe in the organization.
00:09:19.640 I thought she was great,
00:09:30.140 but you've got to keep in mind the context when you're looking at
00:09:32.940 Catholic majority countries like France being the number one
00:09:35.500 consumer of manga or Latin America being these fanatical
00:09:39.620 consumers of anime.
00:09:41.500 It might change your mind in terms of how normal these things
00:09:44.760 are in the mindset of a lot of these countries.
00:09:48.160 So Simone,
00:09:50.740 you said you had a theory.
00:09:51.440 What's your theory?
00:09:53.220 Japanese immigrants in Brazil,
00:09:55.680 Peru,
00:09:56.320 et cetera.
00:09:57.080 Like I didn't expect that until we moved there,
00:09:59.320 but then they were like,
00:09:59.940 Oh yeah,
00:10:00.240 no,
00:10:00.380 we just have a ton of Japanese immigrants there.
00:10:02.660 And here we are eating Japanese fusion food,
00:10:05.020 Nikkei all the time.
00:10:06.240 And I just hadn't realized that there was such a big Japanese
00:10:10.080 immigrant contingent.
00:10:11.640 Brazil had a quote unquote large Japanese immigrant population.
00:10:16.900 If you're looking at raw numbers,
00:10:19.220 if you look at it against the population that existed was in
00:10:22.640 Peru,
00:10:23.320 it is completely insignificant.
00:10:25.220 I mean,
00:10:25.500 Brazil is completely insignificant.
00:10:27.480 The only country was meaningful immigration when contrasted with
00:10:31.060 the existing population was Peru.
00:10:34.500 But,
00:10:35.260 and I'm pretty sure about this,
00:10:36.280 the Chinese immigrant population was larger than the Japanese one.
00:10:38.940 That was the dominant immigrant population in Peru.
00:10:41.640 I'm just going to check really quickly.
00:10:43.920 Still influential.
00:10:46.300 And I think if,
00:10:47.600 if you were to look at the immigrant population of Japanese immigrants in
00:10:52.820 Brazil and Peru versus the percentage of the population that is
00:10:59.640 Japanese immigrants in the United States.
00:11:01.700 Yeah,
00:11:01.920 I was right.
00:11:02.480 Chinese immigrants are much larger in Peru.
00:11:04.540 I would still guess that there is a higher percentage of Japanese immigrants in
00:11:11.200 Brazil and Peru than in the United States.
00:11:14.420 I'm going to bet you're wrong.
00:11:16.320 Really?
00:11:17.000 So let me pull this up.
00:11:17.820 Okay.
00:11:17.940 So,
00:11:18.340 percent of Peru descendant Japanese immigrant.
00:11:32.220 Okay.
00:11:32.940 So it's 0.1 to 0.3% of Peru's population.
00:11:36.020 Okay.
00:11:37.240 Percent of USA 0.5.
00:11:40.920 So not that different in the U S it's right in the middle there.
00:11:45.860 So 0.1 to 0.3% in Peru and the U S is 0.5.
00:11:49.880 So it's,
00:11:50.740 it's higher in the United States.
00:11:52.320 Yeah.
00:11:52.800 Okay.
00:11:53.160 Well then my theory is debunked.
00:11:56.260 Huh?
00:11:57.080 Wow.
00:11:57.560 So we'll go into the standard theory first and then we can go into my theories.
00:12:04.220 Okay.
00:12:04.580 Okay.
00:12:06.260 Okay.
00:12:07.340 So in the 1960s and 1970s,
00:12:09.920 when Japan animation was introduced as an affordable alternative to Western cartoons
00:12:13.360 due to budget constraints in local TV production,
00:12:16.000 networks like Mexico's televisionaza and TV Azteca,
00:12:20.380 as well as channels in Brazil and Argentina,
00:12:22.680 imported anime series because licensing rights were significantly cheaper than American productions.
00:12:26.600 I mean,
00:12:26.960 Nero Azacaro Milo,
00:12:28.960 then president of Televisa famously brought Japanese cartoons in the 1970s as the most cost effective option for filling airtime.
00:12:37.000 Early hits included Speed Racer,
00:12:39.360 known as Metro in Spanish,
00:12:41.480 Astro Boy and Princess Night,
00:12:43.500 which aired without heavy censorship,
00:12:45.440 unlike in the U S where violent blood and romantic elements were often edited out.
00:12:49.980 Now,
00:12:50.680 what I will note here,
00:12:52.280 and I think is important to note about anime's explosion in Latin America,
00:12:55.620 anime exploded in Latin America from the very,
00:12:59.660 very beginning of anime.
00:13:02.320 Yes.
00:13:02.960 Speed Racer is way back in the day.
00:13:05.140 Speed Racer,
00:13:06.240 Astro Boy,
00:13:07.360 Princess Night.
00:13:08.460 Princess Night,
00:13:09.120 by the way,
00:13:09.380 the largest collector of it is in Peru of like memorabilia for it.
00:13:12.840 Like we're talking like 70s era anime.
00:13:16.080 Yeah.
00:13:16.500 Wow.
00:13:17.000 Like,
00:13:17.380 like it didn't get popular.
00:13:18.840 It was like Dragon Ball Z or something like that.
00:13:20.960 Right.
00:13:21.480 Which is still considered ancient.
00:13:23.120 I mean,
00:13:23.760 you know how we,
00:13:24.520 how old we felt,
00:13:25.420 not that this is anime,
00:13:26.880 but when someone staying with us was talking about this really old animated film that she watched called Kung Fu Panda,
00:13:34.240 and we were like devastated.
00:13:36.300 Yeah.
00:13:36.560 She's like,
00:13:37.020 yeah,
00:13:37.160 there's this really old anime I watched.
00:13:38.920 That I watched when I was really little.
00:13:40.480 Anyway,
00:13:43.060 the 1980s marked a boom with series like Saint Seija dubbed Los Corlarios de Zeldacchio or Ramana one and two,
00:13:53.980 which became cultural staples.
00:13:55.160 These shows were dubbed into neutral Spanish or Portuguese with opening and ending songs often translated and performed by local artists.
00:14:03.320 For instance,
00:14:04.380 Saint Seija's theme was covered by bands like Vaz and remains iconic decades later.
00:14:09.680 In fact,
00:14:10.260 it was done by like a winner to like a huge acclaim in Peru on,
00:14:15.080 on,
00:14:15.260 on their major,
00:14:16.100 like,
00:14:16.680 you know,
00:14:17.000 stars singing show where like you go and you audition.
00:14:20.080 That was their like big moment.
00:14:22.760 You know,
00:14:23.000 like you have one of those moments where like somebody goes up.
00:14:25.500 I can't remember the one that happened in the UK where there's like ugly fat lady who goes up and sings and everybody loves her.
00:14:30.220 There was somebody going up and singing from an old anime.
00:14:39.680 There was a lot of,
00:15:00.940 the 1990s brought explosive growth with dragon ball which aired across the region and inspired
00:15:09.160 generation its success in latem even influenced its revival in the u.s after initial flops there
00:15:14.720 other series like sailor moon inuyasha and naruto followed with minimal changes e.g character names
00:15:21.200 adjusted for pronunciation a key factor in anime's enduring appeal and this is i do think an important
00:15:27.660 thing here so i'll go over the two things that i think were really big one i have actually mentioned
00:15:33.420 in my readout of explanations here but you may not have caught it or realized how different it
00:15:38.420 makes latin america than everywhere else that tried to air anime as cheap alternatives
00:15:42.260 do you know what it was just low cost right i mean like the thing that stood out to me in the things
00:15:50.020 you mentioned was low cost yeah but it should have been about equally low cost anywhere it was airing
00:15:55.220 like southern europe but southern europe had some like great og like illustrated cartoons and stuff
00:16:05.080 for kids as did the united states yeah they did have some because you had like asterisks and like
00:16:10.340 okay so the core thing that was different about the way anime was rolled out during that period
00:16:15.360 in the united states in southern europe in eastern europe and in latin america was twofold
00:16:21.460 the first actually does have to do with cost latin america is not actually a fragmented market
00:16:26.980 it looks like a fragmented market but pretty much everyone there speaks one of two languages
00:16:32.540 spanish or portuguese okay the animates could be dubbed centrally in mexico and just across the
00:16:40.480 region at a cheaper price than you could for example dub into all of southern european okay
00:16:47.320 that makes sense and i think this was by far more important
00:16:53.100 is they didn't censor it at all every other market that anime was dubbed into did heavy censorship from
00:17:03.280 the very beginning and they made it suck more basically like it was better because it wasn't
00:17:08.060 censored and they took out sex they took out you know um and that was always a big part of anime
00:17:14.720 when compared and and so keep in mind you're a young kid in one of these countries right and you
00:17:20.620 can watch american cartoons of that year period or you can watch anime right and so you're comparing
00:17:28.480 it to something like gi joe and you know people actually bleed when they get punched in this one
00:17:33.740 yeah die or people actually like you're is it i remember as a kid how important something being a
00:17:40.360 little edgy was to me and if i had those two things and keep in mind from their perspective
00:17:46.420 these two things are undifferentiated because they are both dubbed into their language right so i've
00:17:51.480 got these two things one just seems neutered and boring in comparison to the other right yeah
00:17:57.380 and also you don't have them really molesting with politics so funimation destroyed anime in the
00:18:03.300 united states oh anime companies should have contracted with funimation huge mistake next which was
00:18:09.940 really important to it becoming as big as it did was its similarities to telenovelas in terms of
00:18:19.140 so in the united states if you've watched like dragon ball z and you were a kid it can be a shocking
00:18:28.460 experience to you because every single effing episode ends with a cliffhanger in a way that
00:18:34.940 american cartoons just don't right yeah they're really a lot more self-contained that's a great
00:18:39.660 point yeah but if you watch to the end of like a dragon ball z episode it's a bunch of drama in a fight
00:18:49.980 right um maybe done with like balls or something and then like talking to each other and like whoa
00:18:55.340 you know but that in in structure really is not that different from the way a telenovela often
00:19:02.380 plays out that's very interesting the center of the conflict being two characters talking at each
00:19:08.780 other about their emotions which is not or or like you killed x person who was my half sister but
00:19:15.900 actually we were lovers and that is very similar to the way anime plays out and then every episode
00:19:23.900 ending was like a oh no can you imagine yeah the the the cliffhanger here and that just was not as
00:19:31.980 jarring to latin american audiences as it was to american audiences and it culturally fit what they were
00:19:37.740 already used to from the native types of storytelling and so if anything the american style storytelling
00:19:45.100 felt much weirder or more boring right so simone i another thing i wanted to talk about on this yeah
00:19:56.140 because we like our primary friend groups are latin american we work at a company like the companies
00:20:00.700 that we run are all based in latin america we used to live in peru i lived in mexico and brazil and
00:20:07.740 costa rica so a lot of latin american countries and i always feel like when i go back it's so funny
00:20:14.860 because like my core like world outside of this podcast is latin american and yet i go to my like
00:20:21.580 reunion at like the gsb and it feels like because they hear about us being like quote unquote great
00:20:27.260 replacement theories and it's like that scene good good i hear you're a racist now father
00:20:33.340 what what how did you get interested in that type of thing you said i'm a racist everyone's saying
00:20:41.660 it father should we all be racist now what's the official line the church is taking on this
00:20:48.380 oh no only the farm takes up most of the day and at night i just like a cup of tea i mightn't
00:20:55.260 be able to devote myself full time to the old racism and i'm like no no that's not me it's
00:21:02.540 it's reports have been grossly exaggerated and then the other part of our fan base is like this
00:21:07.340 lady are you father what oh this is comry good for you father but someone has a gut to stand up to
00:21:16.060 them at last coming over here taking our jobs and our women and acting like they own a second place
00:21:25.020 mexicans mexicans catholics more broadly
00:21:29.180 catholics they invented gayness and and we're like we have to be like no i i think they they
00:21:36.220 may have exaggerated our positions on a few things in that latest piece but anyway the the what i wanted
00:21:43.660 to get to was something i mentioned in another episode where i said that latin america was
00:21:47.260 culturally closer to the u.s than especially mexico i said it's culturally closer to the u.s and many other
00:21:53.660 regions yeah and somebody's like do you want to do a full episode on this and i'm like i don't really
00:21:58.780 want to do a full episode on it but i can go get a bit deeper into it here and this is something that
00:22:03.260 like unless you actually know a lot of latin americans i would not say that you have a lot
00:22:11.020 of opinions on because a lot of people who i know who say that this is not true either have not lived
00:22:15.340 outside the u.s a lot in different regions or they just don't know a lot of latin americans because the
00:22:21.260 things that they cite as being indicative of like the reasons latin americans are incompatible with
00:22:27.180 america are the same stuff that every catholic immigrant population has done in america ever you
00:22:33.820 know if you're talking about the crime wave well so did the irish and the italians you know they
00:22:38.540 mafia and the mob right organized crime was really big in those two countries we have an episode on why
00:22:42.780 it's so common in catholic majority country immigrant populations if if you're talking about them
00:22:47.660 refusing to integrate for a period you know i'd actually argue that the latin american immigrants
00:22:52.780 have integrated significantly faster like maybe twice or three times as fast as either the irish or
00:22:58.220 the italian immigrant waves did yeah that's i think that's fair and and so i just don't think that's
00:23:03.180 that's particularly fair if you look at their countries already their countries very similar to
00:23:08.060 the united states are countries of immigrants i.e you know they came from europe often conquered
00:23:16.860 native populations they are slightly more integrated with those populations in the united states
00:23:21.980 although the extent to which they're integrated with those populations i think is hugely overstated
00:23:26.300 so that they can be treated as bipoc if if you if you and again my pop my perspective on this is
00:23:32.300 always going to be a little uh biased because i'm a seventh generation texan but that means that you
00:23:38.780 know my family was there before and so that means for people who are from texas you you grow up in a
00:23:46.220 country that is already a latin american version of the united states so again that also makes it seem
00:23:52.140 not as distant so so like from my perspective if i'm just comparing them because people were asking
00:23:57.980 me about this they seem more cohesive with a sort of american values and tradition than the italian or
00:24:06.700 irish immigrant waves were yeah the sentence of some of those waves are well this isn't to say that
00:24:11.660 like i i would kick them out but but one of the questions is why are they and i think that part of
00:24:15.740 it is nerdy culture it's a nerdy frontier culture nerdy frontier culture i don't would you consider it
00:24:24.140 a frontier culture i don't know if you want to see a spectacular movie about this period of latin
00:24:29.020 american history watch the mask of zorro they want to destroy america give me the courage the strength
00:24:36.060 to wear the mask a little longer
00:24:44.140 the world isn't big enough to hide from me
00:24:48.220 yeah it is a frontier culture if you if you there's a great thing that went through all these
00:24:52.140 words that we think of as cowboy words oh yeah that are like super super spanish words
00:24:58.060 for example or there were a ton yeah on on star codex 10 he did like a summary of all of them
00:25:06.060 found it so buckaroo is vaquero cahoots is cohorts vamoose is vamonos or vamoose
00:25:15.100 who's gow is who's gato vittles is victuals or sorry victuals lariat is la riata
00:25:23.260 kimosabe is ke mos sabe he who knows the one who knows most tonto is is dummy mosey is is probably
00:25:33.660 also from vamoose like vamoose you know yeah tarnation was probably just a way to avoid saying
00:25:41.900 damnation so i decided to look up a clip of yosemite sam just to point this out to people
00:25:45.820 in the very first clip i found both has him either saying that most of yosemite sam is taking place
00:25:52.300 in mexico or that he is from mexico because he points out as being from the other side of the
00:25:58.060 rio grande and uses the term hombre to refer to other people for people who don't know that's
00:26:02.940 spanish yeah yosemite sam the roughest toughest he-man stuffest hombre has ever crossed a rio grande
00:26:11.580 posse latin verbal infinitive equals to be able to or have power boondocks is bundok which is tagalog
00:26:21.980 so not spanish but means mountains honcho is actually japanese turns out group leader
00:26:27.900 el legato the lizard became alligator over time savvy is sabe like nose like i know like it's a
00:26:40.300 conjugation of no in in spanish like he knows they know so yeah just tons there some of them are french
00:26:49.100 too but the the vast majority here so the point being is that when you think of the old west when you
00:26:56.060 think of the cowboy archetype about 50 of the cowboy archetype was mexicans yeah mexico yeah
00:27:06.620 this is not to say this wasn't a blended culture with the united states or that you know and i don't
00:27:12.220 ascribe to like the u.s stole mexican land or anything like that it's actually much more complicated
00:27:17.260 than that and there's a longer video i can make on that if people are interested in it yeah but the the
00:27:22.300 wider point here being is that across latin america you're dealing with a culture where the
00:27:27.180 core difference between them in american culture like i'm like where are they culturally different
00:27:32.220 from us pretty much everything that makes them culturally different comes from one of two things
00:27:37.820 slightly higher native population to start and a higher cath and and that they're catholic well and
00:27:44.780 a different language spanish or portuguese yeah but that makes them significantly closer to us
00:27:53.100 than any european immigrant group whether that's irish or german really the only european immigrant
00:27:58.780 group that i guess you could argue is culturally compatible with the u.s would be english because you
00:28:05.660 know at that point you could at least say well they're the same language so even though they're not
00:28:09.020 from a country that was made up of immigrant waves they they came from the seed culture of that
00:28:13.980 country maybe you could say that about germans as well because they were about 50 of like early
00:28:18.860 american immigrants in a lot of regions yeah but outside of that if you're talking about again
00:28:24.860 italian french irish spanish polish immigrant waves they're significantly more culturally distinct from
00:28:32.540 the united states than really any immigrant waves that's coming from latin america i'm not saying
00:28:36.620 this to say indiscriminate latin american immigration is a good thing i have long said i do not think it's
00:28:41.900 a good thing i'm just saying that we also need to be realistic about it especially when we consider
00:28:48.620 our blessing when contrasted with immigrant waves that are heading into europe which are very culturally
00:28:54.460 distinct from them yeah and second i think not understanding the similarities of the latin american
00:29:00.700 immigrant wave into the united states can lead us to making mistakes and act like deporting or dealing
00:29:08.940 with immigrant populations from regions that are not latin america should take equal priority to the
00:29:15.420 latin american immigrant waves which is where you get these you know giant you know caribbean for
00:29:21.820 example immigrant waves into the united states which are much more culturally distinct from the united states
00:29:27.180 than the latin american immigrant waves or immigrant waves from you know refugee populations in like
00:29:32.380 the middle east and people are like oh this is the same as like latin american immigrants it's like
00:29:36.060 no it's not the same as latin american immigrants and so if we're going to begin to recognize again
00:29:41.980 that different populations are actually different and that it is useful for us to understand this when
00:29:47.740 we are talking about immigrant waves and thinking about as i've always said the way i see diversity is that
00:29:53.740 it's like you never want diversity for its own sake but you also probably don't want just
00:30:01.100 the more you're you're probably better with like ingredients on a dish with a few complementary
00:30:07.340 ingredients a dish doesn't get better just because you've added more ingredients right you know some
00:30:12.220 ingredients just don't go with other ingredients and in a a culture where you know it is normal to marry
00:30:18.220 off your daughters at nine maybe doesn't go with a culture where sleeping with a nine-year-old is
00:30:23.260 illegal right like these two things might be culturally incompatible and that however is is not
00:30:30.540 really the case with latin america you don't you don't in the united states you know when you get
00:30:35.180 problems with like immigrant grapists in the united states it's it's literally because these people are
00:30:42.300 criminals where they came from and they're criminals here and the reason why they're able to get away
00:30:47.260 with their crimes is because the democrats are so f pussy footed around actually dealing with
00:30:53.980 criminals if they happen to be immigrants which is bad and and you do need stricter and i and i believe
00:30:59.180 this is true you do need much stricter policing in any region where you have a high proportion of catholic
00:31:05.420 immigrants because they're just more predisposed to criminality that's going to be clipped out but
00:31:10.380 if you look at the early irish waves if you look at the early italian waves how was the crime sprees
00:31:16.540 that came out of those waves dealt with they were dealt with an increase in sort of a police state
00:31:22.140 within those regions and if you look at the period after you have those initial immigrant waves places
00:31:27.500 like new york became something of a police state so i think that that we need to be realistic about why
00:31:33.660 you can't just take any population in whatever you want it wishy-washy you know anyway your thoughts
00:31:39.980 simone on the whole latin america nerd thing or latin america's cultural proximity to the united states
00:31:47.180 i can't hear you by the way
00:31:50.460 i know i muted myself because it's okay if he's crying you can still talk
00:31:55.020 i i like it i i think it's a sign of of greater compatibility plus also i feel like
00:32:01.660 the more nerdy collective is the the more i i'm comfortable trusting them and integrating them
00:32:07.340 into society because obviously we have a very nerd friendly bias here um so i'm all for it i love it
00:32:15.500 and i if i don't i don't know even if it isn't a sign of similarity i would say it's a sign of of
00:32:21.500 favorability yeah well i think that this also really applies with when we were talking about all of the
00:32:27.820 spanish words that are actually we associate with the old west when we talk about potentially
00:32:33.340 integrating a country like mexico um because we mentioned this in another podcast with the
00:32:38.300 revolts that are happening in mexico right now and it would help us a lot in terms of immigrant
00:32:42.780 waves because if you could put the border at the south of mexico it would actually be defensible
00:32:48.540 like that's an actually defensible short choke point if you put the border where we have it now
00:32:54.620 it's like literally comical to attempt to defend it like we we try but there's no way there's no
00:33:00.860 way you can't do it like it's it's it's going to be incredibly porous as it is right now but the
00:33:06.460 reason why mexico is uniquely cogent with u.s cultural history is because it's literally when
00:33:13.260 you're talking about the history of the old west if you're thinking about people in the cowboy hats
00:33:20.380 with the cowboy boots being a cowboy that lifestyle was practiced from the united states well into the
00:33:29.020 region we call mexico today that that is a even just it was just flat out in the region that was
00:33:34.620 mexico and eventually the united states took it and called it but i'm talking about still into the parts
00:33:40.220 that are mexico today sure it's not like it was just the parts that became the united states it was
00:33:45.420 a a culturally like the west was a culturally uniting thing and the core difference between
00:33:51.980 the two cultural groups was one was protestant and one was catholic um and yeah i mean people
00:33:57.500 know my thoughts on that but i i sort of feel like the cat's out of the bag already in the united states
00:34:01.980 with catholic immigrant groups so if if we're not going to oppose that then i don't see the reason to
00:34:09.180 oppose mexican integration i like it i like that you've you've turned your episode on latin american
00:34:17.980 weaves into a and this is why we should integrate with mexico
00:34:26.220 mexico 51st state let's go by the way their fertility rate is already below ours for people who don't know
00:34:32.540 and i also feel like right now like at least gen z in mexico is ready they're they're ready yeah and i would
00:34:38.220 say they're like culturally nothing like the united states i point out they're beating us in obesity
00:34:44.700 right now okay they're more american than americans they're beating us in obesity yeah i thought man we
00:34:51.020 were like we're we're number one we're number one and now we're not anymore we have to integrate them
00:34:55.500 to regain our status regain our status and obesity anyway again i'm not actually pushing for for
00:35:02.620 integration in mexico i i i think it's probably not worth that it would just cost too much i just think
00:35:07.660 right now mexico's way too much of a security liability i i don't i don't think that the
00:35:12.380 gangs are as easy to take out as a lot of people think they are i think that i mean this is a it's
00:35:18.380 a distributed guerrilla insurgency you don't just take that out easily even though we have amazing
00:35:25.020 military might they're very very difficult to take out no more dealing with the the mexican gangs
00:35:31.740 would one because they threaten politicians so frequently you'd basically need to remove democracy
00:35:36.540 from the region for a period and two the war to deal with these gangs would look like what's
00:35:41.900 happening in gaza right now yeah well and also like mexico is a huge country just like to to fully put
00:35:49.420 them down would be much harder than it would be in gaza gaza it's a concentrated very small
00:35:55.260 geographic region like mexico like there's a lot of places to hide i don't i mean it's i i don't know
00:36:04.700 how i would deal with it so it's a very tough there's also a benefit to having mexico on our
00:36:09.100 border that a lot of people don't think about which is doing manufacturing in mexico is artificially
00:36:14.860 cheap because of the gangs really yeah so if you were to set up these days because it's gotten so
00:36:21.420 expensive in china it is cheaper on a on a per labor cost to set up a factory in mexico than it
00:36:27.820 is in china for because of the gangs yeah so mexico should have experienced the same phenomenon china
00:36:35.180 did i mean they've got nafta to their advantage they're right next to us it should be oh to become
00:36:39.660 more expensive but because of the gangs it's artificial wages should have gone up in mexico it
00:36:45.020 should have industrialized but it hasn't been able to because of the gangs
00:36:51.580 that makes sense which again is common historically in most catholic majority countries i mean if you
00:36:58.380 look at the gangs that basically ruled either ireland or italy for periods it was really horrible
00:37:03.660 yeah well at least they have anime okay they have anime all right love you to death
00:37:15.820 i'm gonna join the other room in four minutes i just need to change his diaper and give it so the
00:37:22.060 episode today my my conspiracy theory on people largely agree with you but i now theorize that there's
00:37:30.460 this autist schizo spectrum when it comes to these things where if you are more autistic you're more
00:37:38.940 likely to assume that this is just people being incompetent and just no one really doing their jobs
00:37:46.300 and if you're more on the schizo spectrum you assume that it's a bunch of people she's calling
00:37:50.620 her husband a schizo by the way people here yes i am well i'm gonna need to beat you after this we
00:37:55.900 gotta schedule that because the beatings oh on air and call your husband a schizo
00:38:02.620 well but i completely agree with you i i'm definitely the schizo here and you're definitely
00:38:07.100 the autist here and i think that that's why the the podcast works um because you know people act like
00:38:13.020 we think very similarly but i don't think that we do to be honest no i don't think they i don't think
00:38:18.220 they think that i don't think i think we think super similarly but yeah people people are loving
00:38:23.900 loving your theories oh he's pooping that's why well i was really disappointed that tucker whiffed this
00:38:31.820 one so bad sorry this was filmed a while ago so you're not sure what i'm talking about i'm talking
00:38:35.500 about tucker carlson complaining about epstein something something something is real there was
00:38:41.820 one part of it where he like specifically like that was like almost embarrassingly stupid
00:38:46.860 where he had to bring up that the phone was cracked by uh technology invented by a
00:38:53.580 israeli company oh my gosh gives the screen that look like you know what's up
00:39:00.620 they didn't still control it when the you know the fbi was using it you know
00:39:06.300 oh my god tucker's brain is so cooked we did lose for the first time podcast subscriber like paid
00:39:14.140 subscribers for the for the episode where we suggested cutting off aid to israel as a pass to
00:39:20.140 reduce anti-semitism but you know what you gonna do screw us what i mean i i get it and and people
00:39:30.220 are entitled to pay for what they want to hear so i respect that but thanks to everyone who does
00:39:37.740 support us it makes a huge difference we really appreciate it oh where did you hear that i said
00:39:49.180 who says dang it titan does titan does yeah where did you hear that word
00:39:56.300 on the chairs on the chairs yeah on the tv
00:40:08.060 from stacy and john yeah from alia yeah which one
00:40:14.220 stacy and john does mommy say dang it yeah no no no no mommy you don't say danger i don't no no
00:40:33.100 i say worse words when i'm angry it's true what what do i say when i'm angry titan
00:40:45.740 you cry i cry yeah oh what do you say when you're angry titan i cry too oh okay
00:40:55.820 well i want you to be happy titan yeah
00:41:02.780 because it's it's really important to me that you become a happy shark princess
00:41:07.820 yeah but who knows creaky man
00:41:13.100 creaky man yeah who's creaky man nobody's creaky man oh then i guess nobody knows creaky man
00:41:21.980 yeah yeah yeah but where does creaky man live well if there is no creaky man i guess he doesn't live
00:41:30.380 anywhere but but where does the creaky man live the creaky man yeah i don't know i don't know about a
00:41:40.940 creaky man maybe there is one but i don't know him do you know the creaky man yeah tell me about him
00:41:48.860 i think the creaky man lives in a cave in a cave that makes a lot of sense yeah
00:41:59.900 it lives in the cave and they're so spooky in the cave hmm that definitely makes sense
00:42:07.260 the creaky man do lives in the cave he do lives in a cave yeah a giant cave yeah does the cave have
00:42:18.300 a refrigerator in it no the giant cave there's nothing in it only creaky man yeah it has a creaky man
00:42:30.940 and that's a pink cave a pink cave yeah where my two favorite goes a pink and purple is it a fabulous cave
00:42:40.220 creaky man yeah yeah pink and purple on the cave so it's a pink cave and it's fabulous creaky man lives
00:42:52.780 in it it does not have a refrigerator yeah aside from creaky man there's nothing else in the cave is
00:42:59.740 there anything else in the cave that's pink and purple yeah what what else is in the cave
00:43:05.340 there might be pink and purple and blue in there what what in there is pink and purple and blue
00:43:13.580 furniture does he have a couch does he have a bed yeah does he have a dog
00:43:18.780 does he have dinner i think so what does he eat he eats carrots and dinosaur nuggets and ketchup
00:43:34.860 really who else eats carrots and dinosaur nuggets and ketchup
00:43:38.460 we do oh is creaky man us no he's not oh okay let's just checking the creaky man
00:43:51.900 oh a cave a cave a pink cave yeah pink and purple and some blue yeah there's some blue on your face did
00:44:02.300 you know that yeah i think you drew on your face with your pens
00:44:12.220 i love you titan i love you too mommy
00:44:17.740 when you finish your dinosaur nugget okay yeah