How A Socialist Became The Least Controversial Figure On The Right (Shoe0nHead)
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Summary
In this episode, we take a look at the drift left of the early online skeptic movement, and the role played by Shuan Head. We discuss why she was a rare leftist who didn't drift left over time, and why her views are still relevant today.
Transcript
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Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be pulling a thread
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that we got to in another video. And in this other video, we were talking about the community
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of early online skeptics slash atheists, which was like the core of sort of YouTube culture
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in the earliest days of YouTube, and how the individuals in this community that went right,
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they first became anti-feminist then anti-woke then went into gamergate and then became the
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seedbed that the new right movement grew out of and another group of them drifted in another
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direction they drifted left and the group that drifted left uh like they they were in the early
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atheist anti-theist movement and then the movement went either at the anti-feminist or anti-woke stage
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they lost their audiences um notably we didn't talk about it in that video but there is actually
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one that drifted left even at that stage he was there for anti-feminist he was there for anti-woke
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and he only drifted left at the trans stuff this is a dev slash short fight otaku who has
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his views are way lower than ours now if you look at like weekly accounts overall drifted left
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yeah yeah well i mean he has refused to really call out the trans community as a serious problem
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something that needs to be in some way you know like it legislatively something like that addressed
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inspector do you know if the killer was a man or a woman well of course i know that what else is
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there the kitten and i i think that that's part he's also become more pro censorship like censoring
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people on his forums and stuff like that really wow that's so unlike who i thought he was when i
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first started watching his videos well i mean i think that's why he lost a lot of his followership
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right like what makes a man turn neutral lust for gold power or were you just born with a heart full
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of neutrality like it does it does seem very anti what i thought he was right but we noted one
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notable, unique case in all of this, which was Shuan Head. And Shuan Head was very unique for
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a number of reasons. The biggest being is that she didn't drift left over time or begin to adopt
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leftist talking points. She was thoroughly leftist from the beginning and quite a bit more leftist
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than I think a casual viewer may believe. She, for example, to go over some of her leftist positions,
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universal health care she wants she has strong support of labor unions she's a believer in free
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college she is as well as tuition forgiveness she's broadly anti-capitalist and anti-corporate
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regularly criticizing big businesses everything like that and she promotes working class popularism
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she voted for joe biden in 2020 she was a very strong supporter of bernie sanders and so yeah
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very very left-wing especially in her economic views and also in her social views to an exchange
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she she hasn't talked about it a lot in in most of her recent videos she she'll come out critical
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of trump but in no way more than in fact less than many of the conservative people that all
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hear on youtube these days which is weird that i would say is true for more recent videos but if
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you look at the holisticness of her work she did not lose followers when she was talking about
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these leftist things and she even has the name among her fan base of commie mommy so you know
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it's a sweet name i think but it's also socially she's been shown to be quite progressive she
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right now is married to a trad cath and has a kid so be aware of that and she converted to
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catholicism over covid but before that she was in a long-term relationship with armored skeptic
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where she was public about having a 24 7 bdsm daddy dom little girl relationship not really yeah
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she wow okay and she still hasn't condemned kink or anything like that which is funny because on
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the social leftist front that would put her with us where we do not condemn kink at all we're like
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people are aroused by random little girls very catholic you know but they work father into
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everything i mean i guess that's right yeah it's extremely paternalistic as as a religion and like
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organization i don't understand why that that particular affiliation wouldn't be quite matched
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but i mean she has kind of made joking videos about kink she made that one a really good one
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actually about women getting into like monster effort books yeah he didn't outright condemn it
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it was more the way that we talk about stuff like that where it's like women are ridiculous that
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they pretend that men are the deviant ones and that they're little saintesses but in that other
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video what i what i talked about was why is she still relevant but none of the other leftist
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youtubers are not relevant is because she didn't try to change her audience and she didn't need to
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convert her audience her audience was never really persuaded by her economic arguments she was never
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a pipeline out of the right to anyone um she is still a mainstream watch figure in the right and
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when i say in the right i mean if she did a video and asmogold didn't do a cover of it i would be
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very surprised leaflet covers a lot of her videos nuxenor always needs to brag when he gets mentioned
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in one of her videos so clearly he's watching them you know if she mentioned us or birth rates
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obviously i would be there do you think it's possible that malcolm could be watching you right
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now well if i was malcolm i would certainly be watching and possibly taping for later playback
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because you know it's a big deal to be talked about on a shoe on head video and it's and i
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watch a lot of her videos too just for even sort of like cultural relevance in the right we pointed
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out that sky brows regularly has her along all of his alt-right vtubers and everything like that in
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his videos and so first i like i want to talk on two topics here one is is how and why because
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this came up a lot in the comments of that video how has shoe on head maintained this right wing
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following and loyalty for an example of another right-wing influencer homath homas did a chart
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of women he trusts like online influencers he trusted and she came in really high on that chart
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above i think the majority of like female conservative influencers on the chart right
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like that is saying something right note at that one of the characters get at the top of the chart
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which i think is fun is pearl davis he's like pearl davis sniffed this girl out this is with
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the it was on his episode where he was talking about the the big the one who said that she was
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a virgin when she got married and the pope blessed her marriage and then turns out she was actually
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sleeping with this other guy while engaged etc yeah well and in that episode i realized just as
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a brief tangent here and i think shoe on head actually sort of fits into this is that of
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conservative female influencers because i wasn't watching nugs and north version of this i was
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watching the leaflet cover of this is that in the in the conservative influencer space there is a
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certain type of woman who just like comes up and her front and center thing is i am ex-religious
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woman right like i'm the trad cast sexy woman right and these are the people i think of when i
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think of quote-unquote christian influencers and leaflet was commenting that you know she gets
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accused of being a quote-unquote christian vtuber like how dare you say this as a christian vtuber
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and i realized how comical it was to consider a figure like leaflet or a figure like shoe on head
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alongside these quote-unquote like i guess i'll call them christian see thought influencers that's
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what we'll call them the christian thought influencers oh my gosh that's such a thing
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though yeah because neither of them while both of them is christian at this point neither of them
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leads anything with that right like that's not their front that's not their identity that's not
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their hook for their audience and i think that it's it's useful to like when you're watching an
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influencer to know are they likely trustable are they likely authentic the ones that are the the
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thoughts are very likely inauthentic right broadly speaking stuff seems to blow up for them
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at a fairly frequent rate whereas i'm just not familiar with that many controversies at all
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with individuals on the other end of the scale was the only one maybe i'm aware of is the pearl
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davis sleeping with you seem to have a preference for black guys which like whatever i understand
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why that's a controversy i do but i also it's like you know your preferences are your preferences
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right like i have and i and i mean this like we in the conservative community should be defending
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the idea of your preferences or your preferences my preferences are for white women that doesn't
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make me a racist right like in fact if you watch our video which race is the most attractive
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we we do break down that but generally races prefer their own ethnicity over other ethnicities
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i should note here i'm not saying this because she's ever stated she had the preference for
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black guys it's just of the three public boyfriends she's had two of them have been black and one of
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them she needed to clarify was not black and was dominican so apparently he looked black to other
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people and it may not be due to a preference on her part it may be due to the cursed phenomenon
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that we're not supposed to talk publicly about but it probably is useful for young girls if they
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happen to be watching this to be aware of this the once you go black you never go black phenomenon
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is not necessarily because black guys are significantly better when dating or something
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like that. It is in large part also because a large chunk of the white male population
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finds girls significantly less attractive after, or at least significantly less valuable as dating
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or even sexual prospects after they know they've had relations with black men. I'm not saying this
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is a good thing but you know everyone has their preferences and in the same way that it's like
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not necessarily a good thing that guys on average happen to find girls less attractive after they
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know they've slept with a lot of people but it's also a fact that it's useful for girls to know
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when they're sort of gauging their dating publicly and i don't think anyone ever for example informed
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pearl that her relationship would have this effect and that's sad right and note i want to be clear
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here i didn't say that many white male racist opinion of a girl goes down significantly after
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they know she has slept with a black guy i am saying many white men even ones who i have known
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who would no one would think to call them a racist they have no other views that could get them in
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trouble for being racist and so they do not air this particular view and through not airing this
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view because obviously in society if you did that that would be and i'm not saying i feel that way
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it would be very damaging to you but it's important that girls are aware of this in fact it's so
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common i am drawn to wonder if it might have a genetic component so drop in the comments if you
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are not white and you know a woman of your ethnicity has slept with a white guy or you can
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also add black guy here does that drop her attractiveness to you more than a regular body
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count would but anyway that's the only controversy i'm aware of and i don't even think of that as a
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real controversy that's not she's never pretended to be a white nationalist she's never pretended
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to be an ethnocentrist she's never pretended to be like that is in no way betraying the image she
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has portrayed to the public it's so funny that she could have someone like nick fuentes on and
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kind of defend him and be friendly with him and then get castigated for that but then also
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be defenestrated for formerly having black boyfriends like okay so like what are you mad
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at her because she's not a racial supremacist or you're mad that she is we're seeing this with
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trump right now yesterday or like a few days ago everyone was freaking out they said can you believe
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trump says he wants to bomb all iranians and of course that's not what he said he even ended the
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tweet was you know praying for the great people of iran but then the next day he doesn't bomb them
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and he gets the beginnings of the the truth worked out and then all of the same people who were
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freaking out on him yesterday for wanting to bomb all iranians they were like oh taco he didn't bomb
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all the iranians he should have bombed all the iranians why aren't you bombing them right like
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it's more just like attack them whenever like when somebody's on the right you just get attacked for
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anything and it makes you a little numb to it after you know you're just like okay you're just
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going to hate me no matter what i say so i have no need to take on anything performative at this
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point but what i wanted to discuss here was one the phenomenon of why she's popular on the right
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and two the the phenomenon more broadly which i guess i'm going to start with as a meta phenomenon
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is i was looking with ai and i could not find an equivalent to shoe on head on the left
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meaning there is no mainstream popular figure on the left who has right-wing views there
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there is no one but it's over which was the colbert report it was this idea i mean and he
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wasn't even actually right-wing right but he pretended to be right-wing and leftists loved
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that but i think they also just kind of loved the the right-wing views being as close sometimes like
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they just kind of yeah no i think they were allowed to they were allowed to enjoy laughing
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and and watching it and kind of even liking it because it was a joke of course they didn't like
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it it was just patriotism and vitalism that they could play along with and have fun with right you
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know i think that that was what grabbed people in that and it was almost prototypical of of a
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channel like ours like the colbert report yeah i mean people would say oh you support everything
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trump does and it's like yeah we do you know yeah even if one day i i believe in unless something
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is like a true and genuine betrayal and not something that he said he was going to do on
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the campaign trail i should go along with it right and like for example the iran bombing thing on the
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campaign trail he said i will bomb iran to smithereens as you know there have been
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two assassination attempts on my life that we know of possibly do Iran but we've been threatened
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very directly by Iran and I think you have to let them know that you do any attacks on former
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presidents or candidates for president your country gets blown to smithereens as we say
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right like so it's the same with it like when elon went against trump for all of these
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things that he put into the bill it's like yeah but he said he was gonna do all this government
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bloat on the campaign trail is how he got elected right like it was one of the compromises
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that our side came to so i i don't you know but i i guess that does make me look like
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having a relationship with trump the same way the stephen colbert character had was
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who's a republican of that era maybe maybe george bush or something anyway i know george bush by the
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way he's a really nice guy the people are i i you know i think he made some mistakes during his
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presidency but i don't think he made them with malice and i think obviously the biggest mistakes
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he made was attempting nation building in the middle east but he just didn't have a history
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or knowledge to know that that wouldn't work right like we had done it in japan we had done
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it in germany no one had really tried it in the middle east before if it had worked like it had
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in japan and germany and south korea which was a pretty successful track record up to that point
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and and in mainstream culture at the time did not admit that people were genetically different
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it you you he couldn't have gone to someone and said how many successful democracies have ever
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been set up in an era of a majority country or what do muslims really believe like that
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information just wasn't out there back then, right? Maybe this attitude explains why there
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isn't this on the left, right? I think many people on the right are actually fairly able to be
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forgiving of people's political differences. We are open to have friends and be influenced
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by people who appear to be approaching arguments with good faith. And I think that
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she represents that for a lot of people and the left cannot do that that's why stephen colbert
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which i think is a good flip here is their closest thing to a shoe on head because everything he
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presented was explicitly in bad faith which is why it was okay and i think that many of us didn't
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know it how bad faith it was until after stephen colbert decided to be his real personality and
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then we got to see oh this guy is like completely cooked in the brain specifically he the the
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funniest example of this was when john stewart went on his show and tried to explain that the
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the lab leak hypothesis was likely correct and funny like that segment was so funny and
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steven got like increasingly nervous like but this is off script john this is off script john
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We don't talk about this in our community, John.
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The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab.
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wait a minute, you work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab.
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oh i work at the coronavirus lab in wuhan oh because there's a coronavirus loose in wuhan
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how did that happen maybe a bat flew into the cloaca of a turkey and now we all have coronavirus
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like okay okay what about this what about this again listen to this wait a second all right
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There's been an outbreak of chocolatey goodness
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Maybe a steam shovel made it with a cocoa bean.
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And Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins at NIH have said,
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Don't stop with the logic and people and things.
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the name of the disease wait a second wait a second the building wait a second but i it could
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be possible you could be right it could be possible that they have the lab in wuhan to
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study the novel coronavirus diseases because of the bat population there i understand it's the
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only place to find bats austin texas has thousands of them that fly out of a cave every night is there
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a coronavirus an Austin coronavirus no it doesn't seem to be an Austin coronavirus
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and you know obviously he ended up especially with his Charlie Kirk comments that were just
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really vile ended up I think showing his true colors eventually and his true colors just
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apparently come down from being afraid to to challenge or criticize any any any woke orthodox
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belief and this is probably created by his writer room I think he hired a bunch of SJWs to be
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writers and that made him really afraid which is you know common in hollywood i i do think that he
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might have been more moderated in his earlier beliefs because at one point he said his favorite
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president was nixon so and he said really i mean this this is going to surprise people so so like
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not in character okay but to shoe on head why does shoe on head appeal to right-leaning individuals
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and i will read an article attacking shoe on head which i think will help explain
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how she still appeals so strongly to right-leaning individuals you ready to buckle in on this one
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simone yeah please enlighten me okay this is an article on medium and is one of the first results
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if you look up criticisms of shoe on head shoe on head the red brown queen of simps and the dangers
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of pop populism so it starts with and then it says a criticism of june lapine which is her
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real name starts with a number of quotes from her rape culture isn't real okay that's not a
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problematic quote unless you're talking about a muslim culture if she's talking about some muslim
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cultures i'd be like whoa shoo like you really need to look at the 99 of egyptian women have
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this is subject to sexual assault statistic right like this is clearly a systemic problem but not
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in american colleges or in america which is probably what she means the wage gap is a myth
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just you know this article was written in 2021 i don't even think people on the left argue that
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the mage gap is real anymore the patriarchy is not real obvious white privilege is not real
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the only privilege is class privilege okay good way to try to bring in the the socialism in there
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that's where she that's where she brings it in okay these are a few memorable quotes by the
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youtuber shoe on head a self-proclaimed social democrat anti-sjw youtuber was 1.5 million
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subscribers and 400 000 twitter followers bigger now i think about twice the size now
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who has successfully slithered her way into legitimate leftist faces after five long years
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of desperately trying i mean she constantly talks about vosh and being friends with him and stuff
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like that she's mainstream was was very far in mainstream leftists right before we get into why
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she's so dangerous now we need to talk about her past just a bit shoe on head built her youtube
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career off of the momentum of gamer gate the misogynistic harassment campaign that gave birth
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to the alt-right and eventually helped get donald trump elected but there's a chance most of her
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fans today don't know that in fact most of her fans today don't know anything at all about shoe
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so a few funny things here is most of shoe one heads fans i would argue are not leftists they
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are her original fan base that they are still trump voters there's a reason she's in every
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skybrow video so no her her fans are very much aware that she was anti-woke and still is anti-woke
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right um and then two i love this person's characterization of gamer gate right like
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a alt-right harassment campaign where it's like gamer gate was about very real corruption in
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gaming media that led to the eventual destruction of the entire industry gaming media does not exist
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anymore side scrollers a conservative youtube show run by stuttering craig is which we've been
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on a bit in the past probably bigger than all of gaming media combined like like leftist gaming
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media at this point and there are some other bigger gaming youtubers but they're they're all
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either rightist or apolitical at this point and and certainly not establishment the last
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establishment leftist gaming media figure was zero punctuation who many don't know he does not
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like trump he's admitted that in some of the videos so you know and he is hilarious i love
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his videos i watch almost every one of his videos but he only became a non-establishment because the
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company basically kicked him out they well they fired everyone and he got mad at them and there's
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the whole drama around that and then he went to start angry british man or the he's angry i think
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i think i thought he was australian but he might be british i'm just thinking about the grumpy
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british man but that's who you're thinking of i think he's okay yeah goes on those long funny
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rants um anyway so she goes over bullet points so so you know how evil she is okay they don't
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know that she was friends with laura southern a white nationalist that made a video trashing
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hillary clinton together in 2015 so a few notes here laura southern is not a white nationalist
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she has denied she's a white nationalist i think the at most she has admitted some ethno tensions
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around differential fertility rates or something like that which is not a that's anyone should be
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like if i'm now in the united states white people actually have very strong fertility rates especially
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northern europeans but if you're talking about other countries like italy and and spain and stuff
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like that like yeah i'd be really concerned and when i say strong fertility rates i mean strong
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fertility rates for our income level not in a global scale obviously poor people have more kids
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right but but even if you correct for things see our video on this because in another video we were
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talking about this and then one of the commenters didn't seem to be aware of this when we were
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talking about why like northern europeans have strong fertility rates and they were like well
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that's not the same as birth rates and it's like no that's exactly what i'm talking about like
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white people in the u.s have a higher fertility rate than black people in the u.s despite black
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people being poor right like if you're unaware of that we we have a higher fertility rate than
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mexico we have a higher fertility rate than the average fertility rate of latin america
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we have a higher fertility rate than any country that comes close to us except for israel in terms
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of the only one that's sort of close is australia which is again a northern european country
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predominantly so yeah no it's it's not a particularly warranted fear but i'm still
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okay with people cheering for their own team it could be better yeah i mean 1.6 is good i want to
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get up there 2.5 or something but like we can get there yeah next she says they don't know she called
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indie game artist zoe quinn a quote-unquote whore and was a huge quote-unquote classic liberal
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e-celeb during gamer gate so for people who are unaware zoe quinn is a whore like no she like
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that's what she's famous for is sleeping around with lots of people while she has a boyfriend
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i suppose the like a lot a lot of people while she had a boyfriend and then doing reviews on
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their video games right like that's like both unethical and whorish i suppose if i was going
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to criticize her we do not have it's more like she was paying the guys for sex and the other way
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around because she would write positive reviews about the games that guys she had sex with so
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it's sort of worse than being a whore it's i i would say trading your reputation and time
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for sex with somebody else sort of puts you on the receiving end of the whore category
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but yeah it looked like it was a yeah she's trying to pay them for the privilege
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a recent shoe on head quote by the way that i thought was fantastic is the bio she's saying
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it used to be that when an unattractive woman saw an attractive woman getting more attention
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than her they'd call her a whore but we can't say that anymore because somehow being a whore is good
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now so now we call them a racist and i think that this is a regard to cindy sweeney controversy
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but i think this article right here they explicitly don't say and she isn't a whore
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they the implication seems to be more and being a whore is empowering that is how we capture our
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femininity uh i believe that is a whore it says here is shoe on head at a party with carl benjamin
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for people who are unaware no she's not even talking to sargon of a cod he just happens to
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be in the foreground and she's in the background with her boyfriend guilt by proximity thing is so
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weird you breathe the same air as them and note here she's wearing cat ears too
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this is the condemning factor here no i'm just saying that socially that's a pretty like
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i would say at least not like trad conservative very very conservative as this new conservative
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culture is conservative like the things that she does that are so not traditionally socially
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conservative are things that the new right wouldn't really condemn um insofar as we are
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voices within the new right that i think sort of embody a lot of the beliefs of it that we're not
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going to go out there and be like oh you know you need to if you practice a kink relationship with
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your monogamous boyfriend where you wore cat ears and did like daddy dom little girl stuff that you
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need to go in a cage forever right like whatever right like it's it's with your partner you you
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both seem to be turned on by it like have fun right and i think that this is partially why
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you didn't know that about her and it's not a big scandal about her because nobody in the new right
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effing cares yeah right it is it is just the old-timey purists and if she tried to get in
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with or the new-timey deontologists that are that are about you know purifying the ideology of the
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party purifying you know racial purity and everything like that it's just a bit of whatever
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like like obviously like ethno groups are real and genetically cluster and there can be
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some utility in attempting to preserve one but it's not the only genetic strategy you can attempt
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and that most ethno groups that you are a part of today were in part made by mixing previous
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ethno groups like the british ethnic group i'm a part of is a mixture of a number of ethnic groups
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Celts, Picts, Vikings, French, some Netherlands.
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And so, yeah, you know, it's a, you, you can, you can mix
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I did not say that my ethnicity has any degree of superiority
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We point out in our, well, somebody in our comments
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was complaining that like how like when you mix ethnicities like look at the ugly children that
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are created by this and i was like well you know we do a video where we rank ethnicities by hotness
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and in the studies that have looked at mixed ethnicity children white people think white
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asian babies are more attractive not babies adults like i guess people made of those pairings
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are more attractive than other white people they are what can we say i kind of agree
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i i think that often they do turn out hotter it's not to say that i think that that's the
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optimal genetic strategy i'm just pointing out that this is statistically what white people
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think and note that there are other SO groups that prefer white like for example hispanics
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prefer white hispanic mixed people to hispanic people oh but to continue here well go go watch
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that video if you're interested in this topic right you know holding her hand to the fire
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they probably don't know that her name is shoe on head comes from a meme where people harass
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webcam models who could not speak english okay fine sounds edgy nonsense they don't know that
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she called non-binary people trans trenders up until 2017 they don't know that she was a big
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fan of milo yiannopoulos an infamous alt-right troll and close friends with carl benjamin aka
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sargon of a cod ukip party member they don't know she said trump might be good for america
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after he was elected and told lgbt people that they were overreacting election night
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at this point it's like stop my penis can only get sore wrecked like please stop hell they don't
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know that she used to be engaged to armored sex skeptic a canadian reactionary or centrist youtube
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skeptic who made videos against trend trenders and feminism which was very much a real phenomenon
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right and then they have a picture of her dressed up in i don't know sexy clothing on her husband
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who and lighting his cigar and and they're holding a sandwich right and they're like not sexist
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you know obviously joking there and they say her ex has an interesting rig i i can't tell what's
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funny about this it just it's like a car to me for years she has been slowly sneaking away from
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her old neo-reactionary spaces and making her way into left-leaning communities successfully
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sweeping her past under the rug and pretending she was not calling non-binary people trans
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trenders just a few years ago many on the left such as steve shives this is one of the ones who
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we talked about who moved to the left but was in the original atheist community a victim of
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shuan head's harassment has been warning about this infiltration attempt for years
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what kind of harassment is this that allegedly is causing all these problems i'm sure she just
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called him out for something he really did okay when you actually look into this story this is like
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psychotic framing of what happened so steve shives at mythcon 2017 tried to get shoe on head
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armored skeptic and sargon of akkad banned from the event de-platform them interfere with their
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sources of revenue and public outreach removing them from the conversation and all she did in
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retaliation for that was make fun of him for being such an sjw that is absolutely wild that this
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would be framed and not even like in a particularly cruel way psychos i mean this is what the tweet
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that they have about her she seems too eager to excuse herself regarding buck angel oh because
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she had buck angel on buck angel is trans by the way and he's just a trans person who said
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the horrifying thing of trans children are actually a problem and you shouldn't be gender
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transitioning children and he is living proof that the majority of the original trans community
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is quite mortified him caitlin jenner everything like that was what the transgenders have turned
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the community into you're still out posting i've got a check gosh i mean i hadn't heard that name
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forever not sorry for that vidcom pic she was in with shoe and armored skeptic she worries about
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being a burden on to her colleagues friends on youtube but puts tweets from others in the video
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possibly making trouble for them uh why should she be sorry for the vidcon photo because it helped
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to normalize two se untrustworthy opportunists who are constantly grasping for a sort of legitimacy
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and acceptance suggested in the photos um specifically talking about her ex here and
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this is shoe on head eating with her ex the hilarious this also includes contrapoints and
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lindsey ellis right which i think are fairly mainstream leftists right thoughts by the way
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before i continue i i think this is an example of people trying to make cancellations out of
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absolutely nothing because i don't see anything wrong here she's living her life and mixing with
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other influencers and expressing opinions which is the only thing an influencer can do if they
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want to provide substance this is actually a really good point about you so cancellations
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often validate people in the eyes of the right uh i think if you look at the early days of vtubers
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because we talked about this in the other episode like rev says desu which uses like literally an
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anime girl child vampire as his avatar i mean i think that would make many people quite suspicious
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of him but his constant cancellation sort of affirm him in the eyes of the right i pointed
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out scott alexander being taken down by new york times made him an intellectual who you could cite
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without reservation within right-wing spaces in addition the entire v-tubing community was really
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affirmed by the right in the big explosion that happened with the case of what was it anna valens
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and then trying to take down leaflet and kirsha right and smug alana was she part of that i forgot
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smug alana on our vtuber piece and i love smug alana she has great videos by the way okay smug
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alana is another fox girl the problem the reason i don't remember her is i get her confused with
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kirsha because they have very similar avatars simone your thoughts my god yeah sorry up all
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night again texas doing the thing where he doesn't like to sleep i'm just shocked here's here's what
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i actually think is going on and this is something that came up in the comments of the youtuber video
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that you did on youtubers going to the left and to the right post the 4chan tumblr
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time is that what you didn't this wasn't really about people choosing a side like i'm going to
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become a democrat i'm going to become a republican it was about whether or not people were part of
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those spaces in the first place because they hated or resented the church or god or whether
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they were in that space because they wanted to pursue truth and they were like going toward a
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light versus like hurling poop at something that made them angry right and i think the people who
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tended to go toward the left and then be associated more with the left were the people who just wanted
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to hate on God or the church or, you know, show resentment towards something. And often that
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something turned into Trump, turned into capitalists, turned into whatever, right? After
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they were sort of done throwing hate at priests or the church. And I think the reason why Shulon
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Head is an example, and maybe to a lesser extent, ContraPoints, because ContraPoints, I think,
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maintain some level of popularity is that their focus in the end, in very different ways, which
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you also touched on in an earlier episode, hasn't been on, I'm going to just dunk on this thing and
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hate this thing. And I'm resentful and angry and depressed. I have mental problems, everything bad,
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hate, hate, hate. Rather, they show a sense of affirmative, forward-moving vitalism and generation
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in that shoe on head is vitalistic she has fun commentary she's very energetic and contrapoints
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has taken the very different direction of being like theater kitty i'm gonna add gel lighting and
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costuming to everything and be really entertaining about it and that i think actually you can even
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see this in the way that contrapoints versus philosophy tubes videos went because both of
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them decided to take the theater kid perspective yeah the individual content of each of their
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videos contrapoints gets really nerdy about things but in a in a non-hateful way and not like i'm
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going to talk how someone is bad but rather i'm going to be like look at how fire festival went
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insane or like let's go down the rabbit hole with twilight whereas philosophy tube is like i'm going
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to talk to you about how you know everyone's bad and terrible and how the world is bad and terrible
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toward trans people toward toward humans toward the the proletariat and so it's more about hate
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and i think that that was a really interesting thing that several people in the comments of
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last video you know it's interesting that you mentioned this because this is another individual
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that like a lot of online conservatives watch contrapoints videos um when we have brought her
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up and liking her content i like her content on online before especially in contrast to who was
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that other one a philosophy tube right where i like philosophy tube is not very high quality
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content and contra points it's pretty decent sometimes which is actually i want to say it's
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notable because in terms of quality i think you know abigail thorn aka philosophy tube would
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immediately shoot back being like i have a team i have makeup artists i put time into my script
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mine is higher quality i'm more professional whereas i get the impression that contra points
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actually does more of the work herself like she's she's she's doing the leftist thing which is a
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performative hiring of people they're performative not just yeah yeah you're advertising but it's
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there's just this huge difference between like nerding out vitalism enthusiasm versus like i
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hate this thing i'm smarter than you are here's why you should hate it yeah here's why you should
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hate it and why we should all be depressed and sad and it's not even really about right or left
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trump bad or good right it's about like how energetic and vitalistic and is this person
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moving society forward or are they trying to tear it down i think that's what it fundamentally comes
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down to maybe that's what the new right is fundamentally about it's not really about
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being like old-fashioned religious or not it's really are you excited about building up for the
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future and if you are then you're in the new right you might you know not fit in any other way but
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you're there anyway yeah actually this is a really interesting meta point for a number of reasons
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that i want to dig into first is fun fun side here for people who don't know philosophy tube
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when she was still a man dated contrapoints another trans woman and after they broke up
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that's when she started transitioning and in a way that looks like she was trying to look more
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like contrapoints and then she started doing videos like contrapoints and contrapoints at
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even called this out in a deleted tweet like if you think your exes are stalkery you've never had
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one like completely medically transform themselves to try to be as close to you as possible right like
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but you know and then launch a career that mirrored your own but it's a little bit relatable
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and i only say that because like when i first met you i was like why am i not him you know i was just
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so excited that you existed and kind of mad that i couldn't pull you off but also i have the
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humility to know that i could never be you so maybe that's the key difference i mean you kind
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of are now we've got kids together right i know that's the best thing that is the best thing yeah
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not only get to like combine my identity with you but also make like iterative copy copies of you
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that we get to like yeah the moment you got a chance stamp stamp stamp stamp stamp stamp stamp
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they do act like us i'll tell you that well they act like you they do act like me a lot
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they're being ironic they act like me this strawberry is getting my mouth wet i can't eat it
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but one point i was going to make here is stylistic an interesting thing about showing
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heads videos is they actually stylistically look more like left-wing videos than right-wing videos
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they're closer to a contra points in terms of their level of editing and development
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um they're sort of a mix of the two cultures but i point out that like right-wing videos when we
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were talking about that they're often far lower production budget they're much more interested
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in just like these are the ideas right like they're not literally if they have jokes in them
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the jokes are germane to like the way the conversation is flowing like a nux taku or us
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or something like that whereas or bridget finnesee does a lot of jokes in her videos
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whereas shoe on heads appear theater kitty i i'd say almost right like it's got it's got an ounce
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of that flair to it and it doesn't turn off uh right-wing viewers i've never heard i i actually
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quite like the effort she puts in um second or or then the larger meta thing i really wanted to get
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to i think it's really interesting here is what caused the original split and i think sarah hater
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said this best on on uh what's her show called again we've had her on
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um i mean yeah sarah hater was on a special place in hell with megan dom
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that ended oh it did no it's a shame but anyway so she said on a special place in hell
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that what we saw was the old atheist community is over time it turned out that of the like
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leading voices within it half of them just wanted to dunk on christians and half of them were
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interested in what was true and the half of them that were interested in what was true is the half
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that broke off and eventually became anti-woke new right um the half of them that just wanted
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to dunk on christians i mean many of them were the celebrities that like we don't even remember
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used to be part of this movement like neil degrasse tyson um uh bill nye you know who's now
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like denying his old videos like oh no gender is not a thing it's not why x x y is like like in
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his new series he actually explicitly contradicts simple videos he made about gender in his old
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series right yeah completely brainwashed but what's interesting is that the way the split
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happened if you're talking about like the absolute leaders of the community you know people like you
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know richard dawkins and like that whole group by the the four horsemen or whatever i can't remember
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all of their names they didn't all move to a traditional rightist perspective but they certainly
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didn't go in the direction of the celebrity types who were just interested in being atheist
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celebrities like neil digress tyson and bill nye all of them as far as i'm aware have since said
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the the movement was a mistake and christianity is a good thing and made our society stronger and
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better um and and that's a shocking thing but the reason they said that and the reason they all came
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to that belief is because they were willing to look at the evidence as society changed and that
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so we saw that in this early community one one half of it was really they just hated they they
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allowed their hatred for the other group to define their beliefs and the other part was searching for
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the truth and i think we're actually seeing this again within the right right now i've pointed out
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in the last video we did on this and we have a longer video that we haven't aired where we go
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much deeper into this phenomenon is that it turns out that the sort of deontologist faction of the
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right the nick fuentes faction at the right where we dig deeper into his beliefs on this is much
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more dominated by like they are willing to sabotage the united states best interest if it hurts
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israel and they are willing to sabotage america's best interest if it hurts israel they are willing
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to sabotage the best interest of unborn children if it helps preserve some degree of like moral
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purity and whatever they're voting for you know like if you if you know the republican party is
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going to put more restrictions on that and yet you're voting against them and telling your
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followers to vote against them it shows a degree to allow the things you hate to override the things
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you say you love you know and i actually think that there's a lot of parallels between that
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strain in the conservative party right now and and note here when i talk about like hating israel
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more than we've pointed out we have a whole video being critical of israel being like hey you're
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Like, there's actually, you know, problems in the relationship between the United States and Israel.
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But to, you know, go so far as to say, and therefore we should not take out the Ayatollah of Iran who wants us all dead, right?
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Like, we should allow him to have a nuke despite the large terrorist network Iran runs outside the country.
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That's where you get to a point where you're like, come on, man.
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Like, if we can use Israel, they've dropped around half the ordinance that has been dropped has been dropped by Israel.
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like they're pulling their weight on this they also have ground forces dealing with terrorists
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in lebanon but they pulled back when we made the deal for people who don't know we were not aware
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like iran there was a miscommunication it appears at least that's fancy's interpretation it could
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have been intentional uh that lebanon was not part of the deal and israel really didn't want
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it to be part of the deal um and uh after the deal was signed and iran pushed back on this
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we put pressure on israel and they pulled out of lebanon as far as the last i checked i'll be
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honest about that so i decided to double check this before putting this live and anna singh stand
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yeah israel has pulled back in lebanon but not entirely pulled out in lebanon they were completely
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furious about this they had asked us to make absolutely sure this was not in the peace
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negotiation but they're doing what we tell them to basically because that's the way our relationship
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works despite what some people will tell you so like they've they've also like in terms of
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playing ball by our standards when we said don't bomb any infrastructure again after the bombing of
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the norse pars oil field they stopped right you know so where's that going with this like they
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they do do annoying things also if you watch mainstream media you may not be aware that
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despite the talks technically collapsing the ceasefire is still in effect but overall you know
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you are self-sabotaging the party and the collective maga movement and we find out 90
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percent of MAGA is pro-war right you know and I will note here it's not just Republicans that are
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pro this since the bombings have started Republicans in the midterms have gained
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significantly vote hub aggregate before the strikes started as of February 28th 2026
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Democrats are at 47.9 percent and Republicans were at 41.8 percent by March 25th it had narrowed
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to Democrats at 47.4% and Republicans at 42.8%.
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while Republican support had gained steadily to 41%,
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shrinking a gap from four to two points since the bombing started.
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And this is obviously freaking the F out of Democratic analysts
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There isn't an actual split in the base of the party,
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But I think that there's something of a mirror there to what happened with that community back in the day, right?
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Which is part of the movement was really only interested in dunking on Christians.
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Eventually, they realized they had more in common with the Democratic movement than they had with what was becoming the Republican and conservative movement and the people who are interested in the truth.
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And somebody said in the comments of this video yesterday that the real difference between the two parties had become one party is interested in what's true and one party is just not, right?
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Like they want to create a constructed reality.
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And I think that this is part of what allows such a diversity within the left.
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It's why in the left you're able to have Islamists.
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No, in the left. In the left, you are able to have Islamists voting alongside people who are LGBT, you know, complete brainwashed cultists, right? And you would think that these two things could never exist alongside each other. But for both groups, what is consequentially true is irrelevant. It's about the vibes and what they hate.
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And that's that's why I've pointed out that I do think eventually what is now the Groeper movement is just going to become part of the leftist coalition.
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It actually has a lot. They really are based on like, I hate this, tear this down.
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If you are that, then you are going to just end up in that left bucket.
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While they share some aesthetic similarities to Republicans from like the 90s or 80s, they have almost nothing in common with the Republican movement as it exists today.
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and they share a lot in common with the faction of the democratic movement that's very embracing
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of islamist values well they've they've actually begun to show more and more convergence with the
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mainstream left as time has gone on uh yeah so it's not just that they've been voting left
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for a long time pretty much since the inception of the movement and signal that they plan to vote
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left going forwards but if you look at the islamist contingent of the left they actually
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don't share that like they do not clash that much with the islamist faction you see this with stuff
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like tucker carlson where tucker carlson is constantly castigating people because you know
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he's adjacent to this faction he's you know the anti-war he's anti you know blah blah blah pro
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venezuela um just because they don't like gay people right so you know he has a lot in common
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with this faction i think he's part of this larger deontological faction but or more than
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deontological hate-driven faction but he's repeatedly come out as pro-islam right like
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how dare christians criticize them how dare christians be okay with with muslims being killed
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in this war very very aggressively if you see nick fuentes videos he repeatedly praised the
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regime in iran saying that they were right to you know kill the protesters in the streets and stuff
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like that and said that he wants to create something like isis but catholic and praising
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the way that isis operate so they don't have the reflexive like oh my god but you understand how
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bad civilization would be if an isis like model really spread that most people in the i care about
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what's true faction of the right have right because that's not what's interesting to them it's like
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the vibes that are interesting to them which means that they can actually work really well
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alongside islamists in a way that like superficially it would seem that they couldn't
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and if you look at the policy proposals that they're pushing in terms of like restrictions
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restrictions on like when i talk about like content restrictions on the internet these are
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policy ideas that we're beginning to see get popularity in the islamic parts of the left you
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know in the in the cities that are attempting to enact things like sharia law but also even was in
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the mainstream left like they've they've bubbled higher in the institutional like voting bodies of
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the mainstream left than they have at the right and these are some of the core policy ideas that
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this group has and is interested in so this i ironically i do think that eventually that
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faction will become part of the the mainstream left and i i think they are kind of already part
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of the mainstream left they just pretend they're not and say that they're not um because that you
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know it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck right if if we accept that islamists are
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fully leftist right uh because i think you could say well they're they're christian they hold deep
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beliefs and they disagree with leftism but the islamists disagree with all that and we'd still
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say that they're mainstream leftists right but back to shoo on head i think what shoo on head
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really represents for the right and the fact that the left doesn't have a figure like her
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is that we are truly a big tent movement like the the core of the new right and i think it's
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important to maintain that so we can continue to have the electoral dominance we saw in the last
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election even when we do not have the purity spiralists you know people motivated by hate
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in the movement anymore because as we've pointed out in the video where we say the racists mostly
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turned against the movement and they did what are your thoughts Simone I mean I just want to add
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that that's the same reason why the right is more varied than you would expect but I think that
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variance on both the left and the right is the telling part that oh my gosh these are actually
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they're not affiliative in the way that we maybe originally thought that it's not i actually think
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that that variance is really really interesting the people who will ultimately end up in the
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right-leaning coalition i think the other person said this is really true is anyone who is
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fundamentally interested in the truth above all else and if that is your interest beyond interest
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in the truth i would say broad broadly and there are exceptions i think the sargon of a cod
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crowd falls into one of these exceptions on this factor. But I think broadly, they're more likely
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to be vitalistic and excited about building for the future. Those things are true. But what I mean
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by this is people on the right, the intellectual discussion of the right is not siloed in the way
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the intellectual discussion on the left is siloed. You know, the LGBTQ activists are not really
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reading the islamic extremists work and vice versa right like yeah yeah whereas on the right you can
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go as diverse as somebody like shoe on head or contrapoints or something like this and contra
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points isn't even on the right right and you can expect you know most right-leaning influencers
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will be familiar with their ideas and engaging with their ideas i you know and there isn't an
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equivalent like that on the left there isn't this sort of cross and it's across ideas on the right
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There is no, like, silo on the right where we don't engage with those ideas or where they don't engage with our ideas.
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Every silo on the right, even people who are, insofar as the Gripers are still part of the right movement at all, they do go over our videos and ideas occasionally, right?
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Like, there is still an intellectual interchange happening there.
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we are still going over those videos and incorporating ideas where they make sense like
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in terms of israel skepticism that's definitely something that i made a point to look deeply into
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and incorporate into our worldview it's just it didn't the the evidence that i got from that
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didn't flip me to and now we should let ourselves be cucked by iran and dicked around by them right
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like if if we can use israel to help deal with this threat once and for all then we should
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and rather than, than screw ourselves over for, for, you know, just because it may end up helping
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the Jews, right. Or split up our coalition. I can say genes are real. And I mean, I, I personally
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chose to marry somebody of my even sub ethno group and still be okay with having a movement
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that has people who are in interracial marriages without scolding them or anything like that.
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you know what matters is that we are discussing reality right um and and you can discuss reality
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there is a real position where getting even if you take like all of the most racist positions
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right even if you are like a racist maximalist if you're still a realist and you're interested in
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like your genes whatever those happen to be eventually winning there are instances in which
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it makes sense to marry someone from a different esto group um and a society like the one that
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this is the reason why i think the people who are realists and racist in the video that we have that
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we talk about this they often end up marrying non-white women because white women have become
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so terrible they often yeah they feel like their only option for passing on their own
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white dna is to find a non i guess non their definition of white woman but yeah it's crazy
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Yeah. I mean, even if you're a racialist maximist, right, you still have passed on
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more white DNA by marrying a non-white person than you have by failing to find a wife.
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Yeah. In other words, if you marry like a typical urban monoculture brained
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white girl boss, you might have two kids. Whereas if you marry someone who's a little
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more family oriented from a different culture, but maybe say like European, but by way of
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latin america so a lot of people wouldn't count that then you could have six kids and you know
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what i meant is if you don't find a wife at all oh sure that too you know you're strictly doing
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like even if you're like a racialist maximus you're doing less for the white race than the
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person who is for example jd vance has contributed significantly more to the future genetic white
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population than nick fuentes has despite having an indian yeah yeah yeah yeah totally true so i
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mean this this is i mean even if you are a racist if if you're a realist you still often end up
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being like okay but i'm still in this larger coalition instead of drifting towards the left
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and fighting against it and i think that that's why she has found herself in this is this obvious
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that while she is a socialist, and I wish she would examine her socialist views more,
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go into them more in new videos, because I think looking back on it as an adult and seeing how
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much the government has effed things up so far, whenever we've tried to give them power,
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she may realize that they may have been not as smart as she thought. But then again,
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she is a Catholic and Catholics are traditionally socialists. You know, the last Pope was a big
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socialist. They've done many socialist revolutions. So we've also got to keep in mind that being a
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catholic even even if we say like well governments are corrupt and everything like that she'll be
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like well the church is corrupt right but like it's still better to rely on the institutions
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and so she might just have a different set of priors than we have that would make her never
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not socialist yeah anyway love you simone glad you watch you watch your videos right or do not
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oh every time a new video first comes out i watch it 100 she's fun she's funny she's vitalistic i
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like it she seems fun i'd love to hang out sometimes if you're watching this shoe on head
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we'd love to do something with you sometimes you're always invited on the show and you're
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always you join our dating network so our kids can date because you know we got we got to find
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some somebody for our kids to date right some sane people having kids out there yeah man the
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only kids who are going to get married going forward are going to have parental help they're
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going to need it so yeah fun times speaking of which anyone watching this podcast there's a lot
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of base camp listeners who are part of our kid dating network most of our kids are like 10 years
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older younger at this time we're not doing anything yet but we will be doing some stuff as they get
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older to sort of get them to know each other do kid exchanges you know like so people can
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experience out households kind of like you know culture what is that thing where you
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sending out not well yeah like sending out as the pilgrims did it but there was this thing where
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people would even know like our our kids our age of our time would go like live with a family
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abroad i did that when i was a kid yeah that so it's like to me it's the most natural i guess
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because i did that with a family in latin america
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which is normal for wealthy texan families to do to send their kids to live in this family
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in latin america it's a good way to be exposed to other cultures other ways of life other
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parents and I mean you want to talk about another way of life live with wealthy people in Latin
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America wealthy Latin Americans have like a totally different way of living than wealthy
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people in the United States and it is obscenely luxurious to an extent that I find it off-putting
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but okay Octavian has been like kind of struggling with focus with homeschooling because now he's
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getting to like the stuff that's kind of just you have to power through it you know in first grade
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because it's not that interesting but it's foundational to get to the next stage and so
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he's been really dragging his feet and so i took a recent picture of him i put him into nano banana
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too and i said you know age it up to age 28 and put him in front of a helicopter and then i made
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this whole persona of him based on like all of his ambitions and dreams right now like you know
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he's he's founded various military tech startups and he has a helicopter that he flies around
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and i put that persona and that image into reality reality fabricator and made a chat
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companion so he can speak with his future self that will help him when he's really clever yeah
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he likes like that's me and you can see there's you can even see a little bit of you in there
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it's it's kind of fun to see him the image looks really good like it does look like a collins and
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it's just based on his current face not like other family members yeah it's it's based on a i'll show
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you the photo that i used as the the basis because you can just upload photos to nano banana and be
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like you know this but oh i deleted it never mind oh i can just get it from my trash see what the
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reason why i wanted to use nano banana and not something else was that um google is really really
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good with age like it's able to take even really old photos of people and be like oh this is you
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know simone collins this is like your grandmother when she was young like we have pictures of her
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when she was old and then when we uploaded really old like vintage photos of her it recognized who
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she was and tagged her face in google photos so i feel like google's like facial recognition
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technology is really good because they have so much data yeah and by the way if you if you want
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to use reality fabricator with your kids because we have an audio chat feature as well for the
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companion app go into the website go rfab.ai backslash demo and it locks the site on that
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device into a safe for work mode hiding all the not safe for work content on the site which can
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make it a fun way to use it with your kids to like have them talk with power rangers or whatever
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they want right like uh subscribers really sound yeah yeah since i since i needed to go that way
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since i did octavian can you can you tell octavian to tell people about his new friend octavian yes
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what does your future self look like what do you look like in the future like like like adult and
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like was like um like i was like a giant helicopter and a helicopter and a hanger and like
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cool clothes like kind of like this goes like like band and hmm oh yeah like a shirt that is black
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and and i almost look like the president at that time in the future yes i almost look like a
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present in the future and i got some and i got some hot water in and i somehow got the ice
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it's in the sink he experimented with freezing his water yeah it was really fun actually and
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are you gonna you're gonna fly future you is gonna fly your helicopter to a campsite and you're gonna
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draw a helipad with chalk and make marshmallows it's funny his plan his plan basically is like
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and then roast marshmallows, which is basically
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could buddy you always could bye and for dinner tonight i'll do bulldog again cooked in the
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traditional style one the traditional you mean the traditional malcolm style traditional malcolm
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style which is extra hot sauce and cheddar mixed in with the morning four-inch ramps it was morning
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forged ramps but when you cut the ramps the last time you cut them into confetti this time cut
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them more like you would cut chives you mean we want larger chunks yeah like large cylindrical
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chunks you understand that i cut them the same way i cut chives it's just you're cutting like
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dull sized instead of human sized so they just oh okay okay well that makes sense you're not
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i can't like enhance i can't enlarge them for you enhance i wasn't sure if you were doing that
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with like the big end parts that's what they become when you chop them like you chop chives
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they're actually really small no no the big bulbs at the end the ones that you gave me yesterday
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didn't have big bulbs at the ends to get the dirt off you pull off the outside sheath you cut off
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the very tip the root yeah and then that's all you've left and that that is chopped like chives
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looks like what you got and it's small but they must have accidentally cut off the bulbs
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i was really careful that not because there's not a lot there all right well i guess we'll see
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we'll save the leaves again today and that should give us enough leaves for a leaf dish
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oh yeah did you want so you don't want me to because i was gonna chop them really finely
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and then mix them in with butter to make herb butter but if you don't want to do that i can
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can try something yeah let's try that let's try at least for an herb butter to put on steak because
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i can also thaw out steak for like sunday i think that's a great idea okay all right i'll get
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started you're such a wonderful wife by the way thank you so much because i made an ai of our son
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he looks good he looks a lot like you but like but very much octavian it's i don't know i want to
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make like future aged up versions of all our kids using oh yeah i do too yeah he looks kind of like
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one of trump's kids though like baron trump aged up a bit baron trump doesn't look like that but
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he looks so much like it's definitely it's definitely him yeah it's cool god if he looks
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like that that'd be so cool malcolm that i mean that looks like you you know it's the acorn head
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still there you know that that confident look it it looks like what your son would look like grown
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up all right well i'll include it in the video so people one of the things that would really hit
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people like unmarried unmarried sorry often unmarried but mostly childless couples was
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when they had ai create you know versions of their photos that had kids and i think doing
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things like aging up your kids or making an image of you as a childless couple with kids can really
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help you understand the oh i have a fun idea so in my stanford thread right now they keep
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sharing pictures of them with like their one kid i was going to just start trolling with like
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family i should get one and just add a bunch of extra kids so i share one with like 12 kids or
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something just like a sea of children what do you think what do you think come on i thought you were
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just gonna fix their pictures of like them plus a couple kids oh no that'd be so mean
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but really funny and you never know could fix it for you i would be banned from the group so quick
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you know i know they already banned me it's only a matter of time that they
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okay so what's happening here guys indy do you like the purple cake
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oh you're going for a girl tight you know what about you do you like the cake yeah are you
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happy torsa what about you tex can i talk to tex what is this texting tex what do you think
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If I was allowed to throw the pie at the camera
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So you don't want to eat cake, you want to eat dinosaurs? Is that it?
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But you're also a shark princess that eats cake.
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