How Blood Libel Became Central to Wokeism
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the rise of Blood Libelism among the left, and how it relates to anti-Semitism and white supremacy. We also discuss the Charlie Kirk shooting, and why we need to do more to protect freedom of speech.
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Hello, Simone! I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to have a conversation
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about how blood libel has become incredibly common among the left, to the point where I'd argue that
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almost every mainstream leftist politician has engaged in blood libel.
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Can you explain what blood libel is to me? I hear people talk about it on the internets,
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but I don't. So blood libel, in its traditional context, is used to talk about the long-standing
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anti-Semitic accusation that claims that Jewish rituals require them to murder non-Jews, often
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children. Where did that come from? Well, it came from delusional anti-Semitism. Largely the point of
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blood libel is, is it is libel, so like lying, falsely accusing somebody, of killing a person of
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your group. Which is also kind of ironic, because weren't Jews kind of famous for not exposing their
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reality? Yeah, I've mentioned this to Simone, but Tacticus, a Roman politician, complained, well not a
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politician, he's a guy who invented strategy. We'll probably get one of our kids after them, but he
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complained that, because it was common to expose babies in ancient Rome, that one of the traditions
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he found particularly barbaric among the Jews is they didn't expose their babies. But the point I'm
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making here is not about that. The reason why blood libel is bad, the reason why we bring up this horrible
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and evil thing, and we're like, do not do this as a society, the reason why everyone's like, that's
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blood libel, is because what blood libel allows. To lie about a group, to say they are killing people
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that they are not killing, allows and gives moral justification for other people to kill them.
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That's what motivates pogroms, that's what motivates Holocaust, and it's so wild to me that I will see
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leftists say, how, why, why do we not study the Nazis? Why do we not learn about anti-Semitism of
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the past? Why do we not learn what led to that? And I'm like, and then they'll, they'll then point at
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Trump, like he is what it looks like to be going down the direction of Nazism. And I'm like, this is
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not, what are you, what are you talking about? Like, this is your side that is doing all of the
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preparatory steps for Nazism, and one of the most common is the renormalization of blood libel.
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And the reason why I am pointing out that it is definitionally blood related to killing another
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group, libel, lying about a group, is because we on the right need to start calling this out when it
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happened, it happens, and not allow people to weasel out of it. Like if somebody in the room
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says that blacks are disproportionately killed by police, which we're going to go over all the
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stats on this, or they say not transitioning children leads to them dying, and we'll go over
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the stats on this, both of these things are very provably false, unless you really like look at the
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data in an absolutely cross-eyed way. And then you say, and because of that, I'm allowed to act in this
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way. This is what we see with the Charlie Kirk shooting, this is what we see in all of this stuff,
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they are doing what the Nazis did, they are feeding their troops with a belief, and mainstream figures
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do this. I'm going to play a figure here of the guy who runs Young Turks. This is Hassan's wealthy
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uncle, both of them super wealthy, if you didn't know that. This brother comes along, I don't know
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who his man is. I mean, people say maybe that he's got a following, but I've never heard of him,
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right? And his co-conspirator, Meister, or whatever, right? But this guy's talking about,
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oh yeah, run over protesters, I don't mind it, he said. So you don't mind extreme violence
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running over somebody with a car, okay? But you know what, why don't we instead arrest them for
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exercising one of the most fundamental American rights, freedom of speech. The one, remember,
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that you guys all pretended you were in favor of? I know some of them meant it, but apparently a lot
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of them, including Hassan and Jägermeister, didn't mean it. They thought, oh, freedom of speech for me,
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for me, to say that maybe you should be murdered or be made my slave. My freedom of speech, good. And by
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the way, I wouldn't cancel that. I don't mind him saying the terrible things that he says. Now we know who he is.
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So, and I'm not afraid of his speech. I'm not afraid that the majority of Americans are going
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to look at that and go, oh yeah, well, I think we should, instead of having freedom of speech,
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if anyone exercises freedom of speech in a way that I don't like politically, we should arrest
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them, take away all their rights, make sure they can't vote, and then turn them into slaves. No,
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98% of Americans are going to be against that. But Hassan thinks that's a great idea. So he's like,
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oh yeah, I'm for freedom of speech, unless it's left-wingers. How dare they protest our government?
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Let's take away all their rights. And I don't know if his followers were like, what an idiot.
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We said freedom of speech, dumb ass. Or if they're like, yeah, yeah, we hate freedom of
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speech now. Now that we're in charge, let's turn them into slaves. Are 13 people watching
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that show? Who would like that kind of monstrously un-American piece like that, who doesn't believe
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in America at all? So if you're watching our show, I would assume you've seen some of
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Asmogold, and you would know that he has never said anything remotely like what this guy
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is purporting that he has said. And as an aside here, the reason, zoomed in on the numbers
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at the end there is because Asmogold completely schools this guy in terms of numbers. He releases
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videos every day that get multi-million views. But here he is talking about Asmogold.
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In the clip, you see him saying that Asmogold supports using lethal force on protesters.
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Okay. So what did Asmogold actually say? Asmogold said, if somebody attacks a law enforcement
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officer with a lethal object, that the law enforcement officer has the right to use lethal force in
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response. He never said attacking like protesters carte blanche, but he's saying that when a protester
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uses lethal force, the police have an opportunity to use lethal force in response. And yet he's
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running the number one, like mainstream democratic podcast. And of course, Hassan does this sort of
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stuff all the time. And he runs the number one democratic live stream. And they're never called
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out for this. And we need to like, every time they sit down, we need to bring up, you committed
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blood libel. You are peddling in lies and conspiracy theories that get people killed. And you need to
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recant them. Okay. And I recently had an opportunity of having to force a journalist to do this. I was
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just like, that, that is a lie and you are lying and you can't do that anymore. This is 2025. And I
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think getting mad at them and putting them on the back foot in the way the wokes used to do to us
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is absolutely critical because they used to do this whole, I'm have the moral high ground. Don't you
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know that kills people? Don't you know? And now you just remember your statistics and you can come
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out and be like, you are lying and people have died as a result of those exact lies. And you need to
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take responsibility for the death that you're lying leads to. And you should not be platformed until you
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apologize for lying to people in a way that leads to minority populations dealing with more
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victimization. For a quick example of what I mean here, but we'll get into more who suffers when
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you remove police from black neighborhoods. Oh yes. The communities. That's why you see black
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communities being much more against defund police than white communities. So before we go further
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here, because I want to get into the black cop statistic that they always use in their blood
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libel and the trans statistic they use in their blood libel. Do you have any thoughts here?
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I want to hear you debunk things, but you're absolutely right. I just had never contextualized
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it as that. And I think that you're right that one of the most important first steps in combating it
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is calling it out when you see it. So I'm glad you're bringing this up. Yeah. Yeah. And when they
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say X person is a Nazi, you take them aside and you're like, how exactly how you're on the side that
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attacks Jewish students on site in college campuses. You're of the side who wants to divide us by our
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ethnic group because he is enforcing the law equally, regardless of people's ethnicity.
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They're like, he's arresting people in front of their children. Does having your children in front
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of you make you immune to the law? Like, what are you talking about? But anyway, to continue here,
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like it would, it would be a horrible precedent if we said, Oh, you can commit a crime, just have kids.
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And then, because then criminals are going to have a bunch of kids so that they can't get arrested.
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Yeah. It's just going to lead to a bunch of mistreatment of young people. Not, not good.
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What a terrible precedent to set. But anyway, continue. Black Americans make up about 13% of
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the U S population, but account to 25 to 26% of fatal police shootings. Now you're, you're going to
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hear that. And you're like, wow, that does sound like a disproportionate amount of police shootings
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are black people. Now let's go over some other stacks that may contextualize that. So 25 to 26%
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of fatal police shootings are black people. Okay. If we use the FBI uniform crime reporting, UCR data for
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2023, the murder rate was 40.8% black blacks are let's say 25.5% of the fatal shootings by police,
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but they make up over 40% of murderers. Okay. And keep in mind, it's been higher in previous years,
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getting up to 56.3% in one year. So let's, let's, okay. You're like, okay, well, you know,
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it's just some murders and maybe the murders are, are fluctuating or inaccurate. So let's,
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let's go to the UN UCR data on other things. What percent of robberies are done by black people?
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Okay. Remember 25% of police shootings. Okay. 51.3%.
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Oh, no. Aggravated assaults. 33.2%. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. So you're, you're getting 40% of
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murders, 50, over 50% of robberies, over 30% of aggravated assaults and 25.5% of police shootings.
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Oh, bad, bad look. So when people, and we're going to go over people died, horrible deaths
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during black lives matter. We'll get over people who were burned alive. We'll go over all sorts of
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people were burned alive. Yeah. They burned a guy alive in his shop, locking him inside and
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lighting it on fire. Knowingly not, they said not knowingly, but this, when, when Tim Waltz was
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saying, I love the smell of those businesses burning, which by the way, we're, that was his wife
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who opened the window to smell. She's smelling people's burning bodies, dying over a lie that
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leftists used during an election cycle to attempt to win. Okay. And what should have been getting to
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people is that if you look at the, the, this, this, I'll just go into this here. This was the
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death of Oscar Lee Scott Jr., a 30 year old man whose body was found in the rubble of a burned out
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pawn shop, maxed it pawn in Minneapolis in 2020. So yeah, he, he slowly died from injuries and
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smoke inhalation as the building collapsed. And there was around 19 to 25 deaths nationwide due to
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them. For some examples of this, you had David Dorn, a 77 year old black police captain who was shot
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and killed trying to protect a pawn shop from looters in St. Louis, Missouri. You had Italian Marie
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Kelly, a 22 year old woman who was fatally shot on March 31st while leaving a protest and getting
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caught in unrelated gunfire. And, and keep in mind, it isn't just me saying, actually, if you look at
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the statistics, blacks are not disproportionately killed by police. If you, if you apply any credulity
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to this, right. And keep in mind, even the stated goals of black lives matter are not what black
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communities want. Like they want to defund the police. And yet the majority of black Americans do not
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want defunded police or less police presence in their communities because they're the ones who
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get victimized by this higher rate of crime, right? Like their communities higher black crime rates.
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Blacks are the vast majority of victims of these higher crime rates. It was black businesses that
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were burned down black and Hispanic businesses that were the majority of the businesses that were
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burned down during these protests. Yeah. The left lies to people in ways that damage the property
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and neighborhoods that they say that they are protected. They do not. And, and, and I point
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out here, this is not just about this stuff. When you look at like, oh, well, we need more
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money for schools. Recently, Mississippi has the highest black use literacy rate in the country.
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Very. Wow. Okay. And they've likely got the best education program in the world and they did
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it. We might do a full episode on this because it's really fascinating. I'd like to, it wasn't
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by injecting a bunch of more money into schools. Actually, they have one of the lowest rates of,
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of school money. But what they did is they said, kids aren't allowed to graduate the third grade
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until they can read it at a certain level. They just retake this grade every year.
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Yeah. So child left behind. Yeah. Literally, we will leave you behind. You dumb. Like Simone was
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for context, like forever ago, president George W. Bush introduced this initiative in U S public
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schools called no child left behind, which spoiler alert, didn't work out so well and improving
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student outcomes. Focusing on the lowest common denominator is not a good, it turns out ideal.
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Yeah. And not letting people feel shame and embarrassment for failing is not good. Having
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to repeat a grade is great motivation to learn your stuff. So I was pointing out at her college,
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she went to undergrad at GW, they now have a remedial mandatory reading.
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Well, when I went, I went to college from 20, 2006 to 2010. And my, every freshman that went
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through the George Washington university had to take a remedial writing class upon matriculating,
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which is just you, by the way, you understand how different these rates are in Mississippi,
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the black reading rate is now over 50% for fourth grade. That's awesome. That is awesome.
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In California, it's around 25%. Yeah. I mean, I should, I shouldn't say awesome when I still,
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you know, you want it to be higher. No, but what I'm pointing out here is that Dems don't actually
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care about these populations. And we pointed this study out a million times, but it is useful to know
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is that the income gaps between blacks and whites and Hispanics is significantly smaller in Republican
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districts than it is in Democrat districts. They just do not care. It is a complete fraud.
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So Royal Friars, 2016 Harvard study. So this is a Harvard study. Okay. Trust the science guys.
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An empirical analysis of racial differences in police use of force analyzed over a hundred and
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sorry, 1,300 officer involved shootings from 10 major U.S. police departments. It was data from
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blah, blah, blah. Black individuals were more likely to be involved in police shootings,
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but after controlling for contextual factors, civilian demographics, encounter demographics
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like time of day and suspect resistance, officer details, and whether a weapon was present,
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no racial differences were found in the likelihood of being shot. In some specifications,
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black individuals were 23.5 to 27% less likely to be shot than non-black, non-Hispanic individuals.
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So, so when you make corrections, black individuals are 23.5 to 27.4 less likely to be shot than other
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arrested groups. If you're going to commit a lethal crime and you're controlling for, for everything
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else, which, which you obviously are because you're doing that through committing the crime,
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you should be in blackface. That'll like protect bullets flying at you apparently. So like that's,
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that is wild. So then there's Joseph Cesario's 2019 study, which is really interesting. It was in
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PNAS. It was later retracted due to public misuse, they said, although the data integrity wasn't
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questioned. So the data is fine. They just, Oh, it's just the public can't handle the truth is what
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they're saying. And it said, however, when they modeled against country level violent crime rates
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by race as proxy, for example, high-risk police encounters, there was no evidence of anti-black
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disparity. The, the odds of a black civilian being fatally shot relative to why was significantly lower
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odd 0.13. White officers were not more likely to shoot civilians than non-white officers. So again,
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this is not a white officer problem or a problem of racism. If the black cops are doing it just as
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much. And then there's Cesario et al's 2020 study considering violence against police by citizen
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race and ethnicity. This used data from the Washington post, fatal shootings, Texas and
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California benchmarks against violence towards police, felonist killings of officers, assaults with
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firearms and knives from FBI Leoka data. Nationally in Texas, black individuals were not more likely
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than white individuals to be fatally shot. It's just not true. I think, okay. So if I were someone
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on the left trying to respond to what you just said, I would say, well, yeah, but they are subject to
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systemic racism, which puts them disproportionately in positions where they are committing crimes that are
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putting them in the line of fire, even though when they do commit those crimes are less likely to actually
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get shot. I, I think that's like a dumb argument for a few reasons. First dumb reason is that why is
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it then that blacks in Republican districts are, presumably they are subject to more systemic racism
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or have better economic conditions relative to white populations than in democratic districts, right?
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To me, that would indicate that whatever is causing these disparities is directly tied to democratic
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policy. And we actually see this in IQ measured IQ. I'm not saying that there's a genetic difference
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in IQ, but there is blacks do score lower on tests in the United States. And you could say, well, this is
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due to, you know, discrimination. And it's like, but then why are the scores closer, which they are in Republican
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held districts than in Democrat held districts? Why, why, if it is this, this apparent like Republican
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systemic racist system, why is it that that seems to help them and whatever you do seems to hurt them?
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Right. I think that that just completely blows this narrative out of the water. I think the better
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argument, if I was going to argue for my opponent's side would be to say, well, all of the statistics
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around blacks committing murder more and blacks committing aggravated assault more is actually
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not that blacks actually do it more. It's that they are more likely to be convicted due to racism
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and that they are more likely to be investigated by the police and chased by the police due to racism.
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Two, my answer to this is, okay, that, that could be possible, but I'd ask you to use your common
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sense around what types of murders police actually care about. And I'm even, I'm even saying, let's,
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let's put our racist hats on here. Let's put our, the police are racist monsters hats. Okay.
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Police are racist monster hat on. All right. Who do they care about? They care about white women.
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I'll try to find one of the scenes. White woman shot.
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You know, to try to, you know, get the police out, but it's, it's, it's, it's, they, they care about
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wealthy people being shot. Those are the classic trope. Yes. Those are the murders that they spend
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more time investigating. Okay. So there is a correlation between wealth and race in this
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country. And, and, and there is a likely a correlation between like, and so who's killing,
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who's killing white people, white people kill white people who kills black people, black people
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kill black people. So you go to the ghetto, somebody walks over and gets shot. Do you really
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think that that crime is going to be given as much attention by the police department as somebody in
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a white suburb being shot? Really? Really? You think that that crime is getting the same amount of
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attention? If anything, I would argue these statistics are likely well under, even if you
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account for racism, because. Stop your giggling.
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You see? If you kind of zoom in, you can see. What did she hide under your pillow? He hide under my
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pillow. Water bottle with Pikachu's on it and it was filled with Froot Loops. How do you think she got it
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under your pillow without you waking up? That must've been incredibly difficult. The Tooth Fairy
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might be invisible. Okay. And if you come back, you don't get your computer tonight. Close the doors.
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Okay. Okay. I love that kid. It is that I do too, but that is one of the hardest traditions to
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parental scams. I do not. Who, who came up with the under the pillow thing? Yeah. It's not just,
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you have to sneak into the bedroom. It's not just, you have to like make it past their room. It is
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all the way to their beds. You guys don't realize how light of sleepers our kids are.
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Our son Torsten is just literally up all night. I wake up at the middle of the night. I pull up the
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camera feed. He's just walking around talking to himself. I mean, he just doesn't sleep.
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What are we going to do when his teeth start falling out? Right. But the, the point I was making
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is the problem is, is even if you assume racism and you assume the most racist of police departments,
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you need to offset the racism of extra black convictions with the racism of not paying nearly
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as much attention to black deaths. Um, which if you're being practical, almost certainly outweighs
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the conviction racism, which almost certainly then again, weights the statistics.
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Um, well, I mean, it's a, it's a big deal that this lie became so common, right? Like it's a very,
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very, very big deal because it led to a lot of deaths and a lot of stupid decisions that led to
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even more death. Like Portland's insane idea to decriminalize like all drugs that then led in
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Portland with Seattle's. I forgot one of the States. No, it was Portland. And it turned it into
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this like hell hole where people are dying on the streets all the time. Um, reversed that
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decision though. Yeah, they did because people dying on the streets all the time. People were
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like, Oh, I don't like stepping over dead bodies on my way to work every day. This was not a good
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idea. Not ideal. But if you want to be like, Oh, how is it that blacks do better under Republican
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health districts? Well, maybe it's because we don't do things like normalize fentanyl. Okay.
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Like there is a, there is a reason that people suffer under democratic policies, right? There's a
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reason why Mississippi has these great reading rates, but let's go to the next blood libel that is so
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common. By the way, do you have any counter arguments or pushback that you would give here?
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No, I don't. Aside from the, but systemic racism argument, I don't really, I mean, I guess I,
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I would say if I were on the opposing side that there is more black on black crime, because again,
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black people in the United States are subject to systemic disadvantage and therefore more likely to
00:23:57.640
be impoverished and therefore more likely to be drawn into gang violence and crime and levels of
00:24:05.540
stress that compromise their ability to think straight and make them extra stressed and extra
00:24:11.640
likely to react to things violently because, and everyone does when they're insecure in terms of
00:24:18.180
food and housing. Yeah. That counts. Right. I think that's fairly, the problem is even when you
00:24:27.020
control, so we're talking about like higher crime rates, this is well studied as well. Even when you
00:24:31.540
control for income, black crime rates are way higher than, than other asset groups in the United States.
00:24:36.060
No, we can, I guess the argument I would have made as, as someone in opposition about the Republican
00:24:42.480
districts is what they're probably also likely more wealthy and less urban. And you're just going to
00:24:48.080
get lower levels of crime and higher levels of in general income or education in like super wealthy
00:24:55.600
suburban areas. Sorry. What was the last thing you said there? You're going to get lower levels of
00:25:02.040
crime and higher levels of income in wealthy suburban areas. And also the places that are impoverished
00:25:08.940
are more likely to be just white. Simone, Republican districts are poorer on average. I'm pretty sure.
00:25:16.680
Yeah. But I think, so I think if we looked at it, the Republican districts that are racially mixed are
00:25:22.820
probably higher income and the Republican districts that are impoverished are mostly white.
00:25:27.960
if we were to look at the data. I could maybe see this argument. I don't know. To me,
00:25:34.860
this argument seems pretty trying. I'm just trying to steel man this. I mean,
00:25:40.040
this isn't my inborn argument here. This is the thing, right? Like people begin to engage in violence
00:25:51.940
violence for reasons, right? And you can attempt to address those reasons. And I think that the ways
00:25:58.220
that Democrats try to address or not address those reasons, just ignore the problem.
00:26:02.480
Well, yeah. I mean, that's the thing is, is, is if food and housing insecurity are causing these
00:26:06.720
things, putting people into cycles of poverty and food insecurity and housing insecurity by not
00:26:11.200
empowering them to get their own jobs, but rather giving them the bare minimum they need to scrape by.
00:26:16.020
And then occasionally having that bottom out or disappear or not work is only going to entrench
00:26:21.920
them in this cycle. And it makes things worse. I totally agree with you on that.
00:26:27.040
So the other blood libel that is incredibly common on the left, and now they point out with the
00:26:30.900
asthma goal video, they'll point this out about everything. Everyone's saying Charlie Kirk,
00:26:34.120
like encouraged the killing of X population or Y population. There was a lie going around that he
00:26:40.920
Claiming that, uh, you know, queer people are defective and dangerous and, and should be,
00:26:47.500
uh, be executed. I mean, that's sort of polarizing language that contributes to this environment,
00:26:52.940
uh, this loss of civility and, and encourages violence directed towards the enemy, whatever the
00:26:59.280
stripe. And we are seeing this from, from both sides.
00:27:02.660
And he was quoting derisively somebody else specifically pointing out when somebody was like,
00:27:09.400
Yeah. And he's like, well, the Bible also said, you know, throw gay people off roofs or something.
00:27:13.400
There's a stone gay people. Um, and what he was pointing out there is that the Bible isn't all
00:27:18.040
sunshines and kittens and everything like that. He was not saying that you should stone gay people,
00:27:21.900
right? He was saying that these people who want to create this fictionalized God is love stuff,
00:27:29.140
you know, that, that, that, that may be what you say, but like engage was reality, right? Engage was
00:27:34.640
the book as it exists in the history, as it exists, which is frankly a really,
00:27:39.300
really based thing to say as a Christian, right? So what I'm putting out here is that people will
00:27:45.240
do this, whether it's to asthma gold or him or anyone else everywhere. And I think we on the
00:27:49.940
right need to be way more ferocious on calling out blood libel. And it is, this is a great thing
00:27:56.140
about using the term blood libel. Blood libel doesn't say Jewish blood libel, right? Like the
00:28:01.300
way the term is constructed is very clear in its meaning. It is lying libel about a group killing
00:28:09.060
another group. Yeah. Plain and simple. Very, very straight. And it's bad to do it to Jewish people
00:28:15.320
to say that Jewish people kill other people in rituals that they do not have, just as it is bad
00:28:20.820
to do it to Charlie Kirk because it is being done with the same motivation, the same intent.
00:28:26.320
Well, it's to create, yeah, you're, you're, or to frame a disliked group as inhuman and monstrous
00:28:35.080
in the end. I'd also note here that it would be pretty good for Jews as well if a large political
00:28:41.100
faction started caring about how bad blood libel was again and applied that not just to themselves,
00:28:46.840
but to any group that was being hit with blood libel. Yeah. So I'll be quicker on the trans stuff
00:28:51.680
because we go over this so often. UK banned puberty blockers in youth. The numbers, so basically we
00:28:57.740
have a whole country of the national experiment have not statistically risen. The numbers of
00:29:00.600
unaliving have not statistically risen. We found out after Travis Stock was shut down that they had
00:29:06.440
done a study on what, how puberty blockers relate to wanting to unalive yourself and self-harm. And it
00:29:13.860
turned out that it increased it. So it is literally them that are leading to the death of children,
00:29:18.800
but they hid those numbers because, and they were forced to publish them by, by court because the
00:29:24.200
court was like, you can't hide this data, right? Like this is very important that the public knows
00:29:28.720
this. And even within the United States, when they were arguing before the Supreme court, the first
00:29:34.060
trans lawyer, Chase Strangio to ever argue before the Supreme court had to say when pushed on, is there
00:29:40.620
any evidence for this? He said, quote, there is no evidence that gender affirming treatments reduce
00:29:47.880
the S word. He responded clarifying. And he tried to say just, you know, how he tried to weasel out
00:29:54.880
of it, which I think is also important. They said, well, what I'm referring to is there is no evidence
00:29:59.000
in some is that the studies of the treatment reduces completed S word. And the reason for that
00:30:05.400
is completed S thankfully. Oh my gosh, wait, no, he's just, so wait, youth gender transition just makes
00:30:11.120
you too dumb to actually finish the job. You should watch our video on how it likely lowers IQ pretty
00:30:16.740
severely. And the main study used to argue it doesn't, was literally done by the head of the
00:30:20.520
W path. They can't even do it right now. Rare, but that's not what he was arguing here. But what's
00:30:26.140
important about this, because I actually think that this is, this is really important. So
00:30:29.720
if what we are seeing is that statistically speaking, the rate of unaliving does not go up
00:30:38.380
after, after transition, right? But trans people who are not allowed to transition report a higher
00:30:46.120
rate of wanting to, it means that this report is a lie. They are doing that thing where you,
00:30:56.660
you're, you're like, I'm going to kill myself if you don't do X. Yeah. If you, if you leave me,
00:31:01.480
I'll do it. Yeah. They're doing that to their parents, to society, and they know they don't mean it.
00:31:06.500
They're just acting like actual psychopaths. Yeah. Oh, they're not even psychopaths. I mean,
00:31:15.000
I, I, I can relate to this as someone who's become hyper fixated on things. Sometimes you just get to
00:31:20.920
this point where you're like, I, I, I have to have this thing. It is the only thing that matters.
00:31:28.400
I must have it. And if I don't have it, I would rather not exist. Yeah, I can see that. So yeah,
00:31:34.100
I don't, but, but I mean, the, the, the normalization of that desire is part of the
00:31:39.360
problem here. The, the, the, the, well, I mean, that's why we have a different perspective than
00:31:43.520
them on whether or not the Dutch protocol is the right treatment for gender dysphoria.
00:31:47.920
And, and I think that as a society, we're getting closer and closer and closer to being like, okay,
00:31:51.420
no, but I think that we need to be just like a lot louder on this stuff. When somebody comes at you
00:31:56.700
and they say, or you hear, because this is where it's much more likely to be you as a person are
00:32:03.160
not going to deal with people saying this sort of thing. They're going to say it about somebody else.
00:32:06.200
They're going to say it about an influencer. They're going to say it about Charlie Kirk.
00:32:09.340
They're going to say, and, and for so long on the right, it was just normal to not bite their head
00:32:16.460
off and be like, that is a lie. And it's the exact type of lie that got him killed. And it is a lie
00:32:21.360
that you are knowing and not a lie. Sorry, we can't use the word lie. That is blood libel. And it is the
00:32:25.800
exact blood libel that got him killed. And blood libel is called again, blood libel because you
00:32:31.200
are lying about another group, murdering a group in order to dehumanize them with the goal of
00:32:36.560
stripping. And we've seen it. There was this great thing in California recently where one of the ladies
00:32:41.180
running for governor, um, was asked by a reporter who she then assaults. How would I need them in
00:32:47.280
order to win, man? Well, unless you think you're going to get 60% of the vote, you think you'll get 60%
00:32:53.200
all the, everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you. That's what you're saying.
00:32:56.800
In a general election. Yes. If it is me versus a Republican, I think that I will win the people
00:33:02.780
who did not vote for Trump. What if it's you versus another Democrat? I don't intend that to be the
00:33:06.280
case. So how do you not intend that to be the case? Well, to those voters. Okay. So, so you,
00:33:13.260
I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you.
00:33:15.700
You're not going to do the interview with us. Nope. Not like this. I'm not,
00:33:20.980
not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask. Every other candidate has
00:33:25.080
answered our follow-ups. I don't care. I don't care.
00:33:27.020
Her numbers have dropped, thankfully, because she had the long history of this. She, she threw
00:33:30.400
boiling water on her husband, boiling potatoes. Scalding mashed potatoes, I think.
00:33:36.080
Yeah. So anyway, really horrifying woman who somehow was in the lead to be the Democratic governor of
00:33:40.740
San Francisco, California. Yeah. But they were just asking her like, well, what about the people
00:33:46.980
who voted for Trump? Like, what are you going to do for them? And she's like, I don't need them.
00:33:50.640
Like, basically they don't matter to me. And they, they are not relevant as human beings to me.
00:33:57.200
Right. Like I don't actually serve them. They are subhuman. And you see this so commonly throughout
00:34:01.980
parts of the left at this point. And this is a mindset that they've been able to develop
00:34:06.680
because it has become normalized to use blood libel in their community without pushing back. And I
00:34:11.580
think we need to say, we push back at this point going forwards. We need to, because, and I, and I
00:34:16.700
say this, and you, Simone, you hear this as somebody who's probably more even minded than me. You'd argue
00:34:22.120
that probably every mainstream Democratic political figure has used blood libel. Or would you say that?
00:34:28.080
Like, it's just a totally normal thing to do on the left to say he's killing X.
00:34:33.880
I think that discounts the really high number of actually fairly normal, highly localized state and
00:34:44.160
local politicians in the United States. But mainstream politicians, I think, are more likely
00:34:50.300
to be tied into these, these falsities. Yeah. And I think that it's, it's, it's good to be able to
00:34:57.360
grab words that they know why they shouldn't do it. And if they're like, well, don't use that term,
00:35:01.060
that that's bad because of how it hurt the Jewish people. You can be like, okay, break it down for
00:35:05.180
me. Break it down for me. Why is blood libel bad? Because it is used to dehumanize other populations
00:35:13.780
so that violence can be committed against them by lying about them, killing people. That is why
00:35:19.080
what we were supposed to learn from that. We apparently haven't learned. Okay. What we were
00:35:26.040
supposed to learn from the stigmatization of that. And you're like, well, you know, but,
00:35:30.880
but Jews, but Jews, no, no, no, no. And Jews will tell you this today if they're like the sane ones,
00:35:36.420
not the far progressive, like wokey ones. Jews shouldn't be treated as different than other
00:35:40.540
populations. This leads to negative things, right? If something is bad to do to Jews,
00:35:46.680
it's bad to do to everyone. Jews don't get some special list of, well, you can't do this to Jews,
00:35:54.040
but you can do it to anyone else and it's fine. You know, we learn these things about Jewish
00:35:59.560
populations because they are relevant to all populations. And what I actually really like
00:36:06.560
about this and pulling out this idea here, because it can turn on his head, the very way that they used
00:36:13.100
to be able to say to us, your actions are leading to death and they were lying, whether it's around
00:36:18.040
police officers killing black people disproportionately, or whether it's around,
00:36:21.740
you know, gender transition leading, leading to death. And they're like, you're killing kids by
00:36:26.340
doing this. You're doing, you know, you're, you're killing people by doing this. You're
00:36:29.480
ex is we now get to pull the exact uno reverse card. Actually that very thing that you just did,
00:36:36.460
that you just said to me leads to people dying and is a lie. And I can go over the data with
00:36:42.980
you or, or you could admit that you just don't care. Your goal is to dehumanize your political
00:36:51.220
opponents so that they will be killed or otherwise stripped of their rights.
00:36:55.980
Mm. See, you like, you also enjoy the richness of this comparison because it once again points
00:37:03.740
out the hypocrisy of a major progressive strategic ideological point.
00:37:11.340
You just said, I shouldn't be saying something because it could lead to people dying. And now
00:37:15.660
I'm saying, but provably what you're saying can lead to people dying and is not true.
00:37:21.340
So if you believe that because it could lead to people dying means that I should be shamed for
00:37:26.620
saying it and should stop saying it, then you need to live by your own logic and do the same.
00:37:31.560
Now that you are familiar with the data that had been hidden from you.
00:37:37.840
Oof. Yeah. No, that's it's, it's rich. It's rich. It's hypocritical. It's, it's, it's a bad look.
00:37:45.580
And yeah, I can get why you, you like putting it out. Here's our scrunchie, scrunchie man,
00:37:51.480
And I'd love to see it become normalized. And I think that it's something that,
00:37:55.720
and by the way, if anyone's like, well, as a Jew, I find it offensive. You say that. And I say,
00:38:00.700
well, as a non-Jew, I find it offensive that you think that Jews should get some sort of
00:38:05.440
different treatment, that something's unethical when it's done to Jews, but not to anyone else.
00:38:10.980
You know, what are you saying as a Jew, you know, sorry, as a non-Jew, I'm saying you shouldn't
00:38:16.620
be dehumanizing me. You shouldn't say that I deserve less rights than you.
00:38:19.560
Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, we, we've also had people recently sent to us like Maui protests and,
00:38:28.140
and Maori protests in New Zealand where they're, they're specifically basically arguing for
00:38:35.340
continued discrimination because they want to continue to have sort of different and special
00:38:40.740
rights. So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's difficult to have groups that say that they
00:38:47.560
advocate for equality when they also distinctly are fighting for differential or separate treatment,
00:38:59.780
But again, I know you hate this, but it just comes back to, for me, external versus internal
00:39:05.080
locuses of control or loci, loci of control, that, that they think that it is equal to have
00:39:14.260
quotas and minimums and special treatment because external factors render them unequal. Whereas
00:39:23.440
the different internal locus of control frame of mind is such that, yes, we're all born unequal,
00:39:30.100
but we should be given equal opportunity. And that doesn't mean favoring one group or giving
00:39:34.980
one group privileges. It means making an open playing field and the black community thing that
00:39:42.860
you're talking about. If they're like, well, why are black still in poverty? You know, they had
00:39:45.560
everything started taking from them. They started with nothing. As I always point out, Japanese
00:39:49.320
Americans had everything taken for them much more recently during the internment and now out earn
00:39:54.460
white people. So how are they out earning white people? Right? Like I know, no. How are they out
00:39:58.900
earning white people? If, if it turns out that you can just take everything from a group and then
00:40:02.220
they're never going to be able to get back up. Like, how is it that the Japanese facing more recent
00:40:08.020
discrimination are out earning white? And I'm not saying that they're earning the same as white
00:40:13.040
people today. I'm not saying they're earning less. I'm saying, how are they out earning white
00:40:16.700
people today? It's because cultural differences lead to differences in outcomes. Yes. Historic
00:40:22.220
discrimination can play a role in black. Sorry. And Japanese would be even more wealthy if they hadn't
00:40:27.420
experienced that discrimination, but it is overcomable. Yeah, absolutely. No, it's, it's,
00:40:35.980
it's, I like the contextualization. I think I'll be using it. I appreciate your explaining blood
00:40:41.000
libel to me in the first place because I just haven't been curious enough.
00:40:45.780
A lot of people are going to worry about that. Like when you point about being racist against white
00:40:49.320
people, you can't use blood libel against white people. And then you just have to explain what the
00:40:52.700
word means. And definitionally, yes, you can. And that's why we learned not to do this. Anyway,
00:40:59.140
love you, Simone. For dinner tonight, I'd love some rendang. Okay. Actually, I think I might
00:41:06.300
have thought some out. There was, there was curry in the freezer that I was like, I think this is
00:41:09.660
rendang. So can I put that over rice for you after? Whatever it is, I'll have it. Okay. Thanks.
00:41:16.360
Yeah. Cause I thought it out and I want to simmer it. And obviously if it's really bad, it's really
00:41:21.960
fast for me to make my rendang. So either way, you'll get something delicious tonight.
00:41:26.420
And feel free to simmer it in coconut milk because I think that rendang often needs more or olive oil.
00:41:31.540
I'm not sure if it's rendang though. So it depends on how, how viscous it is.
00:41:35.580
If it's really dry, sure. I'll add coconut milk or whatever seems to be most appropriate given
00:41:40.760
whatever it turns out to be. I know I'm better at labeling things in the freezer, but I was not for
00:41:46.000
the spell. So paying the price. All right. How can I help you tonight?
00:41:50.280
Carry Octavian down to the kitchen for me. All right. Will do.
00:42:02.080
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