Based Camp - How Carl Jung Corrupted Right-Wing Intellectualism

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking

00:00:02.640 about Jungian psychology, which people know I am not a fan of, but I want to explain what

00:00:10.180 his psychology is. And it's important to know about, because if you are consuming manosphere

00:00:15.280 content, what you may not realize, or even conservative content more broadly, is a lot

00:00:20.580 of conservative intellectuals recycle Jungian theory without telling you that's what they're

00:00:26.700 doing um famous person for doing this is jordan peterson well jordan peterson talks about young

00:00:33.280 a lot i think just not that many people necessarily understand how much young has influenced him

00:00:37.960 yeah and so it's useful to be able to note call out when you're having youngian bs thrown at you

00:00:45.760 and to understand why it's wrong because a lot of it can sound like oh shadow work or something like

00:00:52.580 this. I can see how this is useful. And it's fundamentally bad because it leads you to

00:00:57.240 bad conceptualizations of how your brain works that lead you to psychological places that can be

00:01:04.140 more difficult than they need to be to resolve. So let's dive in. The structure of the psyche

00:01:11.620 in Jung's perspective is that you have the ego, the center of consciousness, your sense of I,

00:01:17.680 identity and everyday awareness. It is an important part, but not the whole self.

00:01:22.980 And it can become rigid or inflated if it ignores the unconscious. And this is where you talk about

00:01:29.140 people with like an inflated ego. And we'll get to more what he means by this, which by the way,

00:01:34.060 I think is a very bad way to think about this phenomenon. And you have the personal unconscious.

00:01:39.980 This contains repressed or forgotten personal experiences, memories, and feeling toned

00:01:45.280 complexes, emotionally charged clusters of ideas like a mother complex or inferiority

00:01:50.480 complex, which we'll get to a lot because they're really important to him.

00:01:52.780 These act asynchronously and can influence behavior strongly.

00:01:57.540 Now, the first thing I need to note, just like before we go farther, is scientifically

00:02:02.320 speaking, to the best of our knowledge in psychology right now, and keep in mind, I

00:02:07.900 am very dubious of psychology as a science, but I am trained enough in it to feel like

00:02:15.100 have a fairly good understanding of where the bs lies and where where things that we've actually

00:02:20.400 pretty much gotten down at this point um and one of the things that it seems pretty reliable at

00:02:26.440 this point is that repressed memories are not a real phenomenon you do not forget something

00:02:34.760 have it continue to affect you and then have it come back later in life when this happens it is

00:02:41.960 almost always in the studies that have looked at this a lot, one of two phenomenon. Phenomenon one

00:02:48.960 is called forgetting before remembering. So what happens in phenomenon is somebody will go to their

00:02:57.960 spouse or something like that and been like, oh my God, I just had this memory that came back to me

00:03:04.780 all of a sudden of my father or uncle sexually you know essaying me as a kid and this is horrifying

00:03:13.320 and then the person who they came to is this will be like oh oh my god that is horrifying

00:03:17.800 while secretly being like actually you talked about that all the time and

00:03:22.260 causes this phenomenon is they'll remember something like this but then the context of

00:03:29.000 that memory changes so they might remember their uncle doing something funny with them as a kid

00:03:35.740 or touching them in a way that they thought was silly or weird or made them a little uncomfortable

00:03:40.780 like their uncle was always creepy and like did stuff like that creepy thing for me but it wasn't

00:03:46.420 you know grape um and then one day they're sitting there and they're like that was a grape oh my god

00:03:53.900 but because they hadn't remembered it with such a charged word like grape attached to it

00:04:00.600 they had forgotten the previous times they had remembered it they had forgotten that that was

00:04:06.580 always in their memory because what they're actually remembering is i had never remembered

00:04:10.840 that as a grape i had never remembered my uncle graped me i had just remembered my uncle did this

00:04:16.300 funny thing to me so you get enough of a category change that you forget that you had previously

00:04:21.740 always had this in your memory. The second thing is it's an implanted memory. This is when very

00:04:28.680 famous was hypnosis, but also it can happen with psychologists more broadly, which is to say it's

00:04:33.320 very easy for people to conflate fake memories. People fake memories all the time. Our brain

00:04:39.940 constantly makes up memories. Obviously the famous study that I talk a lot about when I'm talking

00:04:44.300 about AI, when people are like, well, AI makes up how it knows something. And the famous memory

00:04:48.760 blindness studies in humans, where you show them pictures of attractive women, and then you do

00:04:52.560 sleight of hand and you go, why did you pick this one? And they'll just go on a long rant about why

00:04:56.480 they chose that one. And it was not the one they just chose. Or even like political ballot choices.

00:05:01.800 Yeah. Yeah. So people will just make up why they made decisions. And this has a big problem with

00:05:10.180 memories, right? Because if you make up, oh, you know, a psychologist walks you through something

00:05:15.540 in a hypnotic suggested state or they, you, you know, they walk you through, well, do you remember

00:05:21.080 this happening? You can think back and create that false memory shockingly easy. It is very,

00:05:28.080 very easy for humans to create false memories. And the reason why I'm so against people who

00:05:32.800 push the idea of repetitive memories is because the moment you have this concept and you believe

00:05:38.760 it's real, then you and any culture that stems from you, your kids, everything like that, that

00:05:43.920 you teach about this are very susceptible to this. And this is really bad because this is the core

00:05:49.300 wedge that things like the urban monoculture and cults like Scientology use to drive a wedge between

00:05:54.800 people and their support network, i.e. their families. So if your kids grow up believing

00:06:00.220 in suppressed memories, it's much easier for someone to later teach them. Imagine how mortifying

00:06:06.080 that would be if somebody convinced one of your kids that you essayed them and you didn't. And yet

00:06:11.040 we know from research this happens all the time for people who go visit psychologists and stuff

00:06:16.060 like this well this was even an issue in the period of this the satanic panic all these kids

00:06:20.180 were like yeah i was involved in this horrible stuff and everyone's like what are you what are

00:06:25.180 you talking about yeah this never happened and then his final layer here the collective unconscious

00:06:31.440 young's most distinctive contribution a deeper universal layer shared by all humans inherited

00:06:35.780 across generations not personally acquired it is like a psychic instinctual reservoir containing

00:06:42.020 primordial images and patterns common to humanity and he believes that this is like a real physical

00:06:48.600 thing he's not talking about like pop culture here or something like that which is obviously

00:06:53.660 stupid and woo and we would immediately call that out as stupid and woo but let's go to the ego

00:06:59.180 because i actually think people might think the ego is the least objective one of these ideas

00:07:04.720 before we get into all the shadow work and everything like that, but I actually think

00:07:07.460 it's the most wrong of his ideas about how the human brain works. And because it's the most

00:07:14.200 wrong, it can lead to, and because it doesn't seem obviously wrong, it can lead to tons and tons and

00:07:20.760 tons of mistakes. And it is seeped into every aspect of our language. He has a big ego, you

00:07:26.060 know, somebody might say, right? And they're literally referring to a psychological theory

00:07:30.300 when they say that. The ego is the center of the field of consciousness. Your subjective sense of

00:07:35.180 I, personal identity, will, continuity of time. It handles everyday awareness, decision-making,

00:07:41.580 reality testing, and adaption to the external world. Jung saw it as essentially but limited.

00:07:47.580 It's like a small island of light in a vast ocean of psychic life. Strengths. It provides focus,

00:07:53.280 stability, and necessity. The center for navigating lives. Limitations and risks. The ego is not the

00:07:58.280 whole psyche. If it becomes rigid, clinging too tightly to its current self-image or work crew,

00:08:04.600 it blocks growth. It becomes inflated, identifying with archetypes, collective ideals,

00:08:10.060 or overly grand self-concepts. It loses contact with reality and deep psyche.

00:08:16.240 Inflation often feels like godlike certainty or superiority, but it leads to fragility,

00:08:21.520 isolation, or eventual deflation collapse. Young warned that an inflated ego can become

00:08:29.360 quote-unquote egocentric and incapable of learning from the past. Now, these are so many mainstream

00:08:36.200 words. That's crazy. Egocentric was a thing, like a young thing. Oh my gosh. When I looked

00:08:43.420 him up originally, and I'm wondering if this is something that is accurate, my understanding of

00:08:49.900 Jungian psychology was basically trying to take Freudian psychology, but then build it around

00:08:57.480 the hero's journey and book style narratives. But is that just a misreading of what he did?

00:09:04.340 That's a misreading. He did do that, but obviously Jordan Peterson borrows a lot from that.

00:09:08.860 No, it's a sort of framework for how people think and how to improve how people think.

00:09:14.860 um and while the framework has its three core components the ego the you know the subconscious

00:09:21.640 and the what is it the the the like super idols subconscious the the core failure is he basically

00:09:30.740 took freud's stupidness of of like you have you know the ego and the id he renamed some stuff

00:09:37.480 and he tried to make it like less crazy right the problem with this is okay let's take out the thing

00:09:43.580 that seems obviously wrong and objectable which is like this this collective unconscious okay

00:09:48.080 yeah the idea of an ego and an unconscious is not how your brain actually works um believing

00:09:57.540 it's how your brain actually works can lead to a lot of mistakes so first your brain does a lot of

00:10:07.580 thought that you are not consciously aware of yes this is just an objectively true thing in science

00:10:15.020 and neuroscience we can measure this we can look at this we can see thoughts happening before

00:10:20.200 significantly before they enter your field of awareness as we've pointed out in other videos

00:10:24.940 on this it appears from the most cutting edge science that the and you can watch episodes on

00:10:31.380 this like stop anthropomorphizing humans that the most cutting that these parts of your brain that

00:10:36.580 you do not have conscious access to are working with a level of architectural convergence to

00:10:42.800 token predictors for for many reasons and more and more studies keep coming out showing this

00:10:47.380 which is really cool that like you made this prediction a while ago and since then a number

00:10:51.320 more studies have come out that from different angles seem to be arguing that this is the case

00:10:58.320 or seem to be evidence that this is the case but this unconscious part of your brain then funnels

00:11:05.580 one it operates in separation from itself like it's fairly regionalized it's not like you have

00:11:12.460 a unconscious llm and then a central llm you have a dozen bodies of unconscious llms which are

00:11:20.400 interacting with each other and then send all of that to a centralized workstation which is what

00:11:28.440 uh that centralized workstation then may be conscious but it's probably also mostly

00:11:34.820 unconscious and you're not aware of it, then that centralized workstation sends the decision it

00:11:40.580 makes into your conscious mind. And where your conscious mind interacts with it is predominantly

00:11:48.920 through the way it writes your memories. That appears to be the core focus of the conscious

00:11:55.100 mind. Not making decisions, but writing memories. And how the conscious mind ends up writing those

00:12:04.500 memories, the emotional framing that it puts on them, the contextual framing it puts on them

00:12:10.300 can end up shaping a great deal of your personality because those memories are then

00:12:17.100 referenced by the unconscious parts of your mind when they make decisions. Okay. Now this is the

00:12:26.160 reason why I'm going into all of this is this unconscious part of your mind is not like some

00:12:33.080 mystical wooey whatever it's just the parts of your thought process that are happening by

00:12:39.540 components in your brain that are not part of your consciousness and are the predominant part

00:12:44.720 of your brain they are also not held under some secret influence that you're unaware of

00:12:51.680 like an individual's unconscious mind in like a freudian sense or something like that

00:12:57.900 The implication or the Jungian sense is this unconscious part of your mind is one completely out of your control and it's going out there and just like creating ideas based on thoughts that are completely like injected into you by maybe like an advertising campaign or something like that.

00:13:23.860 right like that's that's typically thought of like you had something suggested to you because

00:13:29.580 of some advertising campaign and then your unconscious ended up making a decision based

00:13:36.200 on that because you were tricked and you didn't even know why you made that decision when that's

00:13:41.400 not exactly what's happening um when things like that do happen it's a lot closer to what i would

00:13:48.440 call an illusion right like you experience an illusion in real time like an optical illusion

00:13:56.920 in real time but you don't think it's like your eyes influenced by some like magical thing you

00:14:03.440 can't see you're like oh that optical illusion happens because when my eyes are processing x

00:14:09.080 they do x in a weird way and then that hits my brain so a lot of like advertising related

00:14:15.320 quote-unquote illusions are really just like priming effects okay a priming effect means

00:14:20.980 by the way token predictors have priming effects as well yes in case you're wondering uh very

00:14:25.860 heavily it means if you want to get somebody to act in a certain way you prime them with something

00:14:33.200 else like some concept like you want to get them to act more morally you prime them with the concept

00:14:37.620 of god or something like that and you can also get like faster response times like if you prime

00:14:42.620 them with the concept of red, they'll like say fire truck faster, right? They'll, they'll have

00:14:46.860 an easier time passing through that neural pathway, but there's nothing like, uh, I guess

00:14:54.900 fancy or secretive happening here. Everything in the output from these parts of your mind,

00:15:01.860 the unconscious mind is fed into your conscious mind. Your conscious mind can heavily control

00:15:10.400 your unconscious mind, but it still doesn't make decisions. By that, what I mean is you completely

00:15:15.440 control your moral and emotional framing of reality through the lens and context you put

00:15:22.280 onto a story with the part of your mind that is sentient. If you decide, and this is where he gets

00:15:29.760 an element of correctness, where he talks about these societal archetypes being really important

00:15:36.080 to people's egos. Many people will take a societal archetype, define that societal archetype as a

00:15:44.660 life well-lived, write within every memory they have, did I live up to that societal archetype?

00:15:53.980 It's one way that they may do it. Or they may ask, do other people see me as that societal

00:15:59.420 archetype? Or essentially you're saying that they're functionally method acting as that

00:16:04.960 archetype and so when they behave like that this trains their unconscious brain to mess it act as

00:16:12.300 this archetype because their conscious brain is labeling things as good or bad e.g other people's

00:16:19.840 perceptions of them their own actions their own decisions based on whether or not they conformed

00:16:25.000 with this archetype yeah and if they're trying to work out how to respond to something the

00:16:31.940 subconscious thought process is how would a like tough man respond to this versus like how would a

00:16:40.180 you know a fancy frail delicate desired woman respond to this or whatever right that kind of

00:16:45.680 thing yes yes exactly and this is a genuinely like when you recognize that you're doing that

00:16:51.580 or you see somebody who's doing this this is a genuinely bad way to live life and it can lead

00:16:56.180 people to fail at their lives when they overglom on to these archetypes but to try to over mythologize

00:17:04.500 what they're doing can miss the banality of it they simply found an archetype and decided that

00:17:11.360 archetype was definitionally aspirational and then attempted to uh embody the archetype that they saw

00:17:19.040 and the moment you you realize it's just as simple as that there is no other fanciness to it

00:17:24.800 and that their ability to embody the archetype

00:17:27.440 is more encoded in their memories

00:17:29.240 than in their, and that they have control of that.

00:17:31.120 And what I mean when you have control of your memories,

00:17:32.440 I've talked about this on other shows,

00:17:33.340 but it's very important to the sort of

00:17:35.540 Addams Family principle, I guess I'd call it.

00:17:38.000 If somebody gives you wilted flowers,

00:17:40.680 you know, Gomez and Morticia are like,

00:17:42.460 oh, they're lovely, right?

00:17:43.980 And culturally, they choose to see them as lovely, right?

00:17:48.460 Culture is in part a choice, but in part,

00:17:51.420 we'll talk about where culture is not a choice,

00:17:52.740 but they like the adams family very intentionally leads into their family's unique culture and i

00:18:00.220 think when the adams family has done well they are not monsters but they are around a normie society

00:18:07.760 that sees them as so culturally different that they are the equivalent of monsters and then they

00:18:14.000 live in a world where monsters also see them as the equivalent of monsters simply because they're

00:18:19.000 so culturally deviant from the society around them was the core joke behind all of that in

00:18:24.680 whenever out of family has done well but despite all of that despite doing things their own way

00:18:29.820 they are fundamentally more loving they do have a better sex life they do have a better relationship

00:18:35.680 with their children despite you know inverting and the out of families that do this rest are the

00:18:41.260 the full-length movies like out of family values from the the 1980s are just god dear at this

00:18:45.800 I hated you.

00:18:47.320 I despised you.

00:18:48.940 I choked him until he lost consciousness and had to be put on a respirator.

00:18:54.560 I tied him to a tree and pulled out four of his permanent teeth.

00:18:58.660 When he was asleep, I opened his skull and removed his brains.

00:19:04.140 You did.

00:19:09.860 A brother!

00:19:13.140 Brother!

00:19:13.580 and good for teaching kids this as well um uh which is to say they can choose like when you

00:19:21.160 watch the adams family yes there's like some supernatural stuff and stuff like that but the

00:19:26.520 vast majority of what they do you could just decide to do you could decide to treat your

00:19:34.540 relationship the way that they treat their relationship you could decide to treat disappointment

00:19:41.100 and death and the macabre as things that are positive to you, because fundamentally,

00:19:46.440 other than a few hard-coded things, we get to decide how we react to our experiences

00:19:52.960 and our history. And it matters a lot that you understand and incorporate this into the core of

00:19:58.240 who you are. The reason I say this is a great study that was done on this. It was actually a

00:20:03.960 series of, I think, four studies, so it's been pretty well replicated at this point, that shows

00:20:07.800 is that if you ask somebody about whether or not they experienced trauma when they were growing up,

00:20:14.200 how much trauma they say they felt growing up is perfectly correlatory with all the negative

00:20:21.420 effects of that trauma. What is nearly uncorrelated is whether or not they actually

00:20:26.420 experienced any trauma as a kid. If you go to the court records and stuff like this, this is not

00:20:30.300 correlated with the effects of trauma. So the effects of trauma are caused by believing that

00:20:36.200 who had these traumatic experiences, right?

00:20:38.720 This is why it matters so much how we encode things.

00:20:42.560 You can choose, there are people

00:20:45.000 who genuinely were heavily abused as a kid,

00:20:47.680 but if they don't believe,

00:20:49.440 if they didn't interpret that as traumatic,

00:20:52.000 which I would be seen as one of those people, right?

00:20:54.020 Like in the Stephen Molineux debate,

00:20:55.620 he got really into this.

00:20:56.560 How can you not say that you were

00:20:58.800 in a highly abusive situation growing up?

00:21:01.080 And I was like, because I choose to not see it that way, right?

00:21:04.420 I choose to not see that about my childhood.

00:21:07.480 I choose to not believe that about my childhood.

00:21:09.280 I choose to believe the best about any situation that I'm in.

00:21:12.920 I have been in really terrible situations in my life.

00:21:15.720 And as someone knows, I always frame them positively as an opportunity, right?

00:21:20.180 Like we don't have jobs right now.

00:21:21.540 And yet I frame it as an opportunity to try to build our next thing that I'm excited about.

00:21:26.100 And I'm excited every day.

00:21:27.200 I could be moping and worried, right?

00:21:30.140 That is fundamentally a choice.

00:21:32.140 And when you don't frame it that way, when you frame the unconscious as something that is fundamentally outside of your control, it leads to cognitive abdication and working on all of these things that don't really matter and avoiding all these things that don't really matter.

00:21:46.780 But now let's go to what he thinks of the personal unconscious.

00:21:49.340 This layer sits just below the consciousness and contains a material that was once conscious but has been forgotten, repressed, or never fully noticed.

00:21:59.140 This is not how your unconscious mind works.

00:22:01.240 you you're actually largely aware of most of at least the consequences of what goes on in your

00:22:07.400 unconscious mind in your decision process it is personal and shaped by your individual life

00:22:13.360 history experience in the environment so you can see why i push against this this is just not the

00:22:17.620 way unconsciousness actually works unconsciousness is just like the line of thought takes before it

00:22:23.920 gets to your consciousness um right what let me be clear here what he's what you're implying at

00:22:31.000 least per this language is that he thinks that there are memories that we don't remember but

00:22:35.600 that affect our behavior whereas in reality if there's a memory you don't remember or like you

00:22:40.400 haven't retrieved it in a long time it is not going to be influencing your behavior yeah okay

00:22:45.080 yeah that is correct this also doesn't heavily influence things like arousal patterns from the

00:22:50.500 studies that we've done on this like being spanked as a kid in our study we couldn't find good

00:22:54.280 correlation with that in like anything sexual so a lot of people think that a lot of these like

00:22:59.360 experiences that they've had there's been great studies on grape in this so when people are great

00:23:06.340 girls specifically are graped in societies where there's a big stigma around grape grape has a

00:23:11.880 really huge negative effect on their cognition but in societies like say islamic society where

00:23:16.900 it's more common it does not have a particularly big effect on their cognition they like it being

00:23:21.720 graped does not psychologically hurt them that much because of how they contextualize it grape

00:23:27.400 isn't bad because of grape grape is bad because of how we psychologically contextualize what that

00:23:32.620 means to an individual not the right phrasing it's not mentally traumatic or harmful to people

00:23:40.240 and the same can be said for like experiencing violence as a child or other things like that

00:23:48.000 and that's what the research shows and this is not a judgment on the morality or goodness or

00:23:52.420 badness of the actions of the trauma that you might experience be it of that sort or just like

00:23:58.920 you know witnessing a terrible accident but what matters is the contextualization if you

00:24:04.420 contextualize it as this horrible thing happened to me i am now damaged goods or i am now traumatized

00:24:10.380 i am now never going to be able to function again as a normal human that is how it is damaged and

00:24:15.020 this shows up in even more innocuous things we've talked about this ad nauseum but people who've

00:24:19.460 undergone formal sleep studies who have had horrible sleep, but don't know that. And they

00:24:25.760 report to researchers, I think, you know, I slept fine. I feel better and perform better throughout

00:24:30.140 the day than people who, per actual research, like measured sleep, slept really well.

00:24:36.020 Yeah. And you can actually get most of the effects from sleeping differences just by telling someone,

00:24:41.540 we measured your sleep last night and you slept well, and then they'll perform better on a test.

00:24:44.660 like so really like even so it could be with something as serious as some form of assault

00:24:51.200 or it could be as something innocuous as you know believing you had a good or bad night of sleep

00:24:56.840 how you contextualize things is really important someone joked in our comments when we talked about

00:25:02.140 this in a recent episode they were like man how do we get like our fitbits to gaslighting us to

00:25:06.760 thinking we have good health which is the legit good question where this ends up mattering and

00:25:11.660 It explains why if like the more progressive somebody is, the worse their mental health

00:25:16.160 is and the more depressed they are, is in part because you can choose to contextualize

00:25:22.520 like there are types of like light essay, right, that may happen as part of like regular

00:25:28.920 life and a conservative woman or man or let's say discrimination, right, may be affected

00:25:36.700 by one of these things and just rub it off as a normal part of life, right?

00:25:41.080 whereas a progressive because they contextualize it as equivalent to grape or because they

00:25:47.100 contextualize it like this incredibly what they might call a microaggression but it's just somebody

00:25:51.420 being like what what bathroom is the right one for you again um you know because they contextualize

00:25:58.420 this as an attack they feel it as an attack and it has the same effect on them not just

00:26:04.600 psychologically but physiologically as an attack but to continue here he believes in this concept

00:26:10.560 that affects the personal unconscious that we'll get to a second called autonomous complexes. So

00:26:16.080 he says, quote, the image of certain psychic situation, which is strongly accented emotionally

00:26:22.400 and is moreover incompatible with the habitual attitude of consciousness. This image has a

00:26:29.440 powerful inner coherence. It has its own wholeness. And in addition, a relatively high degree of

00:26:35.260 autonomy so that it has the subject to control the conscious mind to only a limited extent

00:26:42.740 and therefore behaves like an animated foreign body in the sphere of consciousness. So essentially

00:26:50.080 to word this in another word, he sees the unconscious mind as like a separate mind

00:26:55.700 from your conscious mind that interacts with your conscious mind. Instead of a collection

00:27:01.920 of components that is part of the pipeway into your conscious mind.

00:27:09.960 So you can think of your conscious mind. Okay. He basically thinks of the mind as working like

00:27:17.760 two living blobs, right? Whereas a better way to think of the mind is a series of action calls

00:27:27.400 where you have a thought is written by the conscious mind into memory, then your unconscious

00:27:34.840 mind like responds to that. It's like, okay, I just had X memory. What do I do next? And it does

00:27:44.320 whatever it wants to do next. And that thing happens in the world and then also enters.

00:27:50.680 I think I have a better, I think I have a better analogy. So for Jung, our conscious mind is the

00:27:56.060 president and our unconscious mind is the deep state so the president is like we're gonna do

00:28:01.080 this and then the deep state is like ah actually for all these rules and other things that you

00:28:04.900 can't even see and that are super obscure yeah we're gonna actually do this totally differently

00:28:08.940 and then you know things get botched and don't go according to plan and young is trying to say

00:28:13.520 you must understand the deep state you must fuel the deep state you must you know ride the deep

00:28:18.940 state whereas i think non-youngian people are like no let's just do what the trump administration

00:28:25.060 does it write a bunch of executive orders and go without all this nonsense no baggage i actually

00:28:30.260 okay here's a better way to describe okay it's not as accurate and a metaphor but it's a pretty

00:28:34.800 good one for visualizing what it actually is is closer to a train track with light on one section

00:28:42.100 of the track okay like the lights only covering 12 of the track now it's still all the same process

00:28:49.040 it's all the same track you know when the track goes through the part that you have conscious

00:28:54.140 access to it's then going around the track but you're seeing the whole train right does that

00:29:01.060 work better for you no i don't understand that at all but you know okay i'll continue to go here

00:29:07.360 and because we'll come back to this in different words and it might make sense to you then

00:29:11.040 in plain terms complexes are emotionally charged clusters of ideas memories and associations

00:29:19.380 a mother complex which might involve intense feelings around nurturing dependency or authority

00:29:26.740 figures rooted in early experiences they have a quote-unquote nuclear core wait wait wait so the

00:29:33.560 whole complex wait just the complex like you have a savior complex like when people say things like

00:29:39.120 that they're referring to Jungian psychology yeah they're referring to Jungian psychology

00:29:44.320 which is not scientific by the way it's not like there's not scientific evidence for this

00:29:49.620 no no it is true that we have tropes within our society and some people attempt to embody those

00:29:55.300 tropes as i've said above but that attempting to bond to a trope is intentional on behalf of

00:30:04.540 the individual people are not not aware that they are doing this they may contextualize it

00:30:10.340 differently. Like, of course I want to be a good progressive and progressives are good. So I go out

00:30:15.740 and save the environment. You know, they don't critically ask, well, are they actually good?

00:30:19.680 Is this actually a good way to structure my life? But they're not like lying about what they're

00:30:24.480 doing. If that makes sense. Yes, absolutely. I got really lightheaded all of a sudden.

00:30:31.660 No, you okay. You need to take a break. No. Young, young. What was I just saying?

00:30:37.160 that when people are putting on an affectation or character it is known by them and intentional

00:30:43.500 they've intentionally chosen to be the ditzy barbie girl or the high school jock type yeah

00:30:49.760 the reason why this is important is i know they may contextualize like they may act in a way

00:30:57.060 that you see as the mean cheerleader when they think that's how a popular girl acts right but

00:31:03.500 this is not and it's very important the people who are like oh this is like something happened

00:31:09.320 to them when they were a kid and they picked up this unconscious belief in whatever it's really

00:31:15.600 important that you don't get sucked in by this type of language or explanation because it's it's

00:31:20.900 just wrong and it is hugely disempowering to the individual in a way that can prevent

00:31:28.580 actual solutions from taking place so so how do i explain this if you buy into his world perspective

00:31:38.420 you can easily come to believe something like oh my friend does x because they have a mother

00:31:47.200 conflict which they got in childhood for this just so story and that's a bad thing to believe

00:31:54.060 because that's not why your friend is doing x your friend is doing x because they want to be

00:31:57.560 seen in X way because they believe X way being seen as good. Now, what's important is, is once

00:32:02.960 you understand this, now it's a lot easier to work on helping them, right? Because now all you need

00:32:08.700 to do is explain or break through to them why believing that X thing looks good or makes them

00:32:16.880 look good is a bad and inefficient idea that is functionally not working. May you be unable to do

00:32:24.680 that because it's something that happened in their childhood absolutely you may be unable to do it

00:32:28.780 because of something that happened in their childhood but that doesn't that doesn't mean

00:32:32.460 that like it's some secret magical thing that got stuck in their unconscious it just means that

00:32:37.340 their framing of those definitions happened in their childhood does that make sense simone yes

00:32:42.140 okay he when triggered when one of these complexes is triggered they possess you

00:32:49.440 temporally, he says. You react with disproportionate emotion as if an inner foreign body has taken you

00:32:55.380 over. You might suppress them with willpower, but they return stronger until integrated.

00:33:00.760 And your goal is to work through these complexes via analysis, dreams, or reflection,

00:33:08.120 released energy, and other things can foster growth. And you can see this is where the woo

00:33:12.960 comes in, right? Like it's actually very, very similar to Scientology, this belief that you have

00:33:18.500 thetans that you get because of bad things that happen this is what scientologists believe bad

00:33:22.580 things that happen to you at the job which are the souls of angry ghosts dead aliens and they

00:33:26.520 attach to you and this is why you know you kids can't even hear like screaming when they're born

00:33:31.840 because that may distress them and then they'll pick up thetans and those thetans will lead to

00:33:35.380 bad things in their life beings born on this planet have had clusters of thetans attached

00:33:40.140 to their bodies ot3 can run out these clusters and cause them to leave us and reincarnate as

00:33:47.340 individuals after hours of expensive auditing you were rid of the body thetans attached to you

00:33:52.860 you may then acquire psychic powers move objects at a distance and have out-of-body experiences

00:33:59.080 if you find you can't then you must take the course again for another five thousand pounds

00:34:04.460 that's that's basically what young thought that's how he thought reality worked thetan logic is that

00:34:11.080 you you get possessed by these little anima that live within you very video game actually

00:34:17.720 gay right

00:34:20.680 the game called persona 5 where you sort of have these where you have these like anima inside you

00:34:40.340 I think this is influenced by Jungian psychology, the idea that you have these ideas about what is

00:34:47.300 good that live inside you and can take you over. That's not really how it works. Now, you can be

00:34:52.680 like, but sometimes around specific archetypes, I have seen people get triggered. And it's, yes,

00:34:59.140 sometimes people are triggered by specific archetypes. This absolutely can happen. But

00:35:04.240 sorry my feet were getting cold people can get triggered by archetypes but this is just like a

00:35:10.880 known archetype that they have chosen to incorporate in their self-identity so how does the flow of

00:35:17.040 emotions actually work because we talk about this in the pragmatist guide to life and it's really

00:35:23.040 important to understand so most people like are living on autopilot so that the sentient part of

00:35:30.020 their brain the like one little important part is completely on autopilot and this sentient part of

00:35:37.000 their brain is so if you after you get an argument with somebody you may attempt to model them right

00:35:44.700 you'll do something like say like you're creating an emulation of them within your mind so you can

00:35:50.680 continue to have that debate that has their characteristics and stuff like this and this

00:35:54.800 is called a theory of mind and i believe that the way that most humans operate is they have

00:36:03.660 one theory of mind in their brains at all time dedicated to themselves um to the person what

00:36:13.820 themselves yes they have chosen to be or become and this theory of mind is referenced by the

00:36:22.800 little sentience inside of them when they're on autopilot so by this what i mean is they have an

00:36:30.460 idea of who is malcolm right like what what is malcolm like and they create a model for that

00:36:37.220 and then the little part of their brain that writes down their emotions was like are you

00:36:42.320 angry about this is this good for you is this whatever it references that theory of mind which

00:36:48.680 is talking about yourself when you're going to experience an emotion. So suppose you're like

00:36:58.200 going through a breakup, like somebody who's just texted you and said, I want to break up with you,

00:37:04.640 right? Your sentient part of your brain references the part of your brain that's the Malcolm or

00:37:10.640 Simone theory of mind and says, how do I feel about being broken up with? And then that theory

00:37:17.660 of mind tells them Malcolm, the type of person Malcolm is, feels like X or Y when they're being

00:37:24.840 broken up with. And that gets encoded. Now you can override this, but it's mostly running

00:37:31.640 automatically. And we argue in that book, the core way to change your emotional reaction is both

00:37:37.320 your recontextualization we talked about before, but also chiseling at and working on that theory

00:37:43.440 of mind that is you right the one that's constantly referenced by your autopilot and i note here that

00:37:49.640 this theory of mind can come in one of two forms and you throughout your life will meet people of

00:37:57.240 both forms in one form it's modeling themselves from their own perspective these are people who

00:38:05.900 are this is this is a normal way of doing it for like non-super toxic people in the other type of

00:38:13.200 person it models it from the perspective of outsiders and these people are very dangerous

00:38:20.920 so what i mean by that is with suppose somebody has just broken up with it right the question

00:38:29.180 that the thing constructing the theory of mind of them is asking is not what type of person am i and

00:38:36.680 how does that type of person react in what type of person do I want other people to see me as

00:38:43.520 and how does this person react and so these these people are become very performative in this sort

00:38:51.740 of stuff and the reason why this is so toxic is because they can never really be satisfied right

00:38:56.720 like they never really are seen enough as what they want to be like but to continue here the

00:39:05.000 collective unconscious this is a deeper universal layer beneath personal unconscious it's not

00:39:10.460 acquired through personal experiences but inherited as part of our psychic structure

00:39:13.840 like instincts or biological predispositions but psychic in nature this one is really stupid i mean

00:39:23.040 like obviously it doesn't exist if it did exist we would it we would see it in like feral children

00:39:28.720 and stuff like that so but we've seen a lot of children who have been raised outside of families

00:39:34.180 and stuff we've seen art from people who's been like totally isolated their entire lives

00:39:38.440 and it's just disorder there there isn't like some sort of recurring thing to it outside of

00:39:45.040 what we biologically inherit from our ancestors any thoughts before i go further simone

00:39:50.120 no no but this has been a lot better than the summaries i've read so i appreciate you trying

00:39:57.620 to explain this at least in terms i can understand yeah then within the collective unconscious you

00:40:03.420 have archetypes and he sees this as being like primordial images that are not fixed images of

00:40:10.740 or characters but underlying forms of potentials that shape human experience appearing in myths

00:40:17.040 fairy tales dreams arts religions across cultures this is where i got that perception that it was

00:40:22.720 basically just psychology but with like some kind of like through the lens of book narratives

00:40:26.800 yeah and i've pointed out the reason i say that this is bad is while it is true that you do get

00:40:32.940 some convergent phenomenon between cultures especially cultures that are inheriting from

00:40:38.420 each other narrative flows structures and histories you know el revos and all that you

00:40:44.880 you uh now that i play more stories with reality fabricator i'm realizing just how much ai chooses

00:40:51.500 el revos is the name it chooses it well over half the time which is maybe i play too many sci-fi

00:40:57.860 stories yeah in sci-fi stories that's the case it's certainly not the case in like historical

00:41:02.800 fiction which i also choose a lot my favorite sci-fi story to play here is i play it with the

00:41:08.780 new like build your own one where it like makes up an adventure concept based on a gist of an idea

00:41:13.400 you have is i am an ambassador for the terran empire meeting with the the federation which

00:41:19.300 are humans who have sort of uh evolved into this sort of gay space communism utopia and and my job

00:41:25.360 is to infiltrate and take down these witless federation members you know to to eradicate their

00:41:31.300 their colony for for further expansion of the terran empire so anyway these archetypes

00:41:38.760 okay these types so they include things like the persona the social mask or role we present to the

00:41:45.420 world useful for adaptation but problematic if we identify it completely so note here when i talk

00:41:51.020 about persona like the thing i'm talking about you can be like but that's very similar to a persona

00:41:55.020 and that's the trick it sounds similar but it's a completely separated concept i'm literally just

00:42:00.820 saying people identify tropes as good and attempt to build them into their self identities. It's

00:42:08.620 not part of a collective unconscious. It's based on things they saw in their lives and then

00:42:13.660 attempted to model. Okay. When people try to live out the hero's journey, that's just because they

00:42:18.260 have seen it that many times in books, especially in the West, the shadow. And we'll talk about this

00:42:24.000 one a lot. The repressed disavowal aspect of personality, what we don't want to be. It includes

00:42:29.940 negative traits but also hidden strengths and creativity anima in men the inner feminine image

00:42:36.960 qualities soul emotion relatedness animus in women the inner masculine images quality spirit

00:42:43.480 logic assertiveness and the self the central archetype of wholeness the regulating center of

00:42:48.480 the entire psyche not the same as the ego it often appears in dreams as madless wise figures are

00:42:55.240 symbols of unity. The self guides the process of becoming who we truly are. Other common archetypes

00:43:02.180 include the hero, the mother, the child, the trickster, the wise old woman, etc. And those

00:43:07.420 are just tropes. They're just tropes that people see and then identify moral value to. As to how

00:43:14.240 you should actually build yourself if you're like, well, what trope do I choose? Or what trope is

00:43:19.060 really me? And the pragmatist guide to life, you should get it, read it. We argue first you decide

00:43:23.900 what has purpose then you decide what trope if you embodied it would best maximize that purpose

00:43:29.700 then you embody that trope that's the best way to live because then you can live

00:43:34.320 with maximum efficaciousness throughout your life in like a big way which i'm

00:43:39.860 yeah absolutely i also would just argue that the hero's journey

00:43:45.280 it's just kind of a reflection of common life pathways you know yeah it's not growing up being

00:43:52.960 it's mean going out you know then creating a story of success or a story of challenges and failure

00:43:59.040 that's the way people like to tell narratives and stories life happens you leave home you

00:44:04.540 face challenges you grow you know that's profound i mean it is but it's not it's don't overthink it

00:44:12.660 um there's a lot of overthinking it seems in young young in psychology which ironically

00:44:17.300 i first heard about when i i did that internship with the fake cult the jejun institute as they

00:44:24.500 called it was like all about like carl young this and carl young that and i just love that like

00:44:29.580 aesthetically when a bunch of alternate reality game narrative writers decided that they were

00:44:33.820 going to create a cult and try to throw in all these things that like were creepy so alongside

00:44:39.520 things like human dolphin communication they threw in a bunch of references to carl young

00:44:43.640 i think goes to show you everything you need to know about just how you know useful and and real

00:44:51.000 worldish his but the reason this gets to me before we go further with shadow work and the shadow is

00:44:56.640 it's just not accurate it's an inaccurate view of who you are and it includes many elements like

00:45:03.780 you know past events living in your unconscious or something yeah that can be used by your

00:45:10.120 ironically real subconscious mind, e.g. the little model that you've built of yourself

00:45:15.620 to justify actions that you wouldn't want, right? If you believe that you have trauma,

00:45:23.640 then you build that trauma into that model of yourself, which determines how you emotionally

00:45:29.960 react to stimuli in your environment. Leaves some optimal reactions and less resilience.

00:45:35.300 yeah yeah because you're like oh i am someone who is traumatized it is the very belief in the

00:45:41.640 concept of trauma that makes you susceptible to trauma in the first and i'm not up for this

00:45:46.980 because i'm traumatized you know instead of i can do this i'm empowered i can do whatever i want

00:45:52.660 just trauma it's the entire world of the unconscious that allows for these justifications

00:45:58.940 to be built within an individual well it seems to create an external locus of control by creating

00:46:04.400 this this subconscious that that supposedly drives so much of your action disempowers you

00:46:12.760 as a conscious individual because it says well you're not really in control anyway you're being

00:46:18.040 controlled by repressed memories and all these things that happen to you over which you have no

00:46:23.020 control which leads ultimately to a much less efficacious successful and happy life not good

00:46:28.880 yeah time out though it looks like you're about to pass out also i need to get the kids should

00:46:34.960 we finish this tomorrow oh yeah yeah i've just started on shadow work so we'll finish it tomorrow

00:46:39.740 sorry are you okay because you look like you're like i don't know i'm feeling off like really

00:46:44.660 drowsy did it happen really suddenly are you not sleeping enough or is there something like

00:46:51.060 do i need to take you to an emergency room no i'm i'm fine i'm i'm not sleeping i have so much to do

00:46:55.540 i've got to make a fix right now no you you i think you need to take it you know like even a

00:47:01.120 short nap makes a huge difference for you yeah but if i take a short nap now that i'm not gonna

00:47:04.820 be able to get to sleep later well that's okay you have a weird schedule you can keep a weird

00:47:09.320 schedule okay can you because you you just don't you look off right like you can't work right now

00:47:17.500 you you clearly need to take a nap or i need to take you to a doctor like it's one of those two

00:47:21.160 i just need i just need some beer that's what i need no you don't are you okay is this normal

00:47:29.180 tired or is this i need to take you to a doctor tired this is a feeling i get when i'm in a car

00:47:33.500 and i have to concentrate for a long period of time and then i get like it looks like that okay

00:47:37.880 then but i'm just doing that with episodes because you know please thinking for too long

00:47:45.260 yeah that's okay look you need your glymphatic system the bigger problem is i've got all of

00:47:50.680 these things in the back of my head that i'm worried about like the board meeting and the

00:47:54.080 site having issues right now and that's doing investor outreach yeah i get it but i think

00:47:59.980 then you need to shut down let the waste matter clear out and you'll feel a lot better even if

00:48:05.820 it's just 15 minutes can you do that for me yeah but if you don't know what she's talking about

00:48:11.200 when you go to sleep your glymphatic cells shrink which allows them to clean out the waste matter

00:48:15.860 in between them which is why short naps can be useful for brain health okay you need to

00:48:23.820 when i concentrate for too long yeah well he so he both seems to accumulate waste matter in his

00:48:30.040 brain much more quickly or like it just blocks up more quickly but then naps clean it out much

00:48:35.480 faster like i need to pass out if i concentrate for too long and he gets like 30 minutes and he's

00:48:40.160 fine but we did two episodes in a row and it was a really long one before this interestingly the

00:48:44.640 one we'd done before this was tucker carlson which has already gone live and it has one of our lowest

00:48:49.440 like to dislike ratios was only 80 likes usually we get around 99 likes and this is weird for me

00:48:57.140 because almost none of the comments were negative which leads me to believe is this all bots like

00:49:03.140 is is the whole tucker carlson situation just maintained by angry bots yeah so malcolm please

00:49:11.880 in like two hours i'll bring it to your room but sleep okay i love you be safe good god so now

00:49:18.940 we're gonna go into young again and this time we're gonna be talking about the shadow so young

00:49:24.580 described the shadow as an unconscious aspect of the personality the conscious ego does not

00:49:29.940 identify with or want to acknowledge. It encompasses repressed ideas, instincts, impulses,

00:49:35.380 weaknesses, desires, and traits that feel incompatible with our self-image or societal

00:49:40.580 expectations. In simpler terms, it's the dark side of who we are. Not necessarily evil, but

00:49:47.120 everything we push into the unconscious because it doesn't fit our ideal self, the persona or

00:49:52.220 social mask that we present to the world. Jung famously called it the thing a person has no

00:49:57.960 wish to be. The shadow isn't just bad qualities like anger, jealousy, greed, or selfishness.

00:50:03.760 It also contains positive elements, hidden talents, creative impulses, realistic insights,

00:50:09.840 normal instincts, and strengths that were repressed, e.g. because they seemed, quote-unquote,

00:50:15.160 too much or inappropriate or undervalued in childhood or culture. And so what Jung wrote

00:50:21.920 of shadows is everyone carries a shadow, and the less it is embodied in the individual's conscious

00:50:26.860 life the blacker and denser it is so if i'm going to explain this in different words what young

00:50:33.240 believed is that you had this as we've talked about people really do do this they build sort

00:50:40.280 of a trope into their model of who they are that they use to determine what emotions they feel in

00:50:47.740 relation to what decisions in environmental stimuli that they end up making but to young

00:50:54.100 this meant that you had another you that was also you that had been pushed out of that ego

00:51:02.200 or or the persona that you're trying to embody the problem is is that's just like not the case

00:51:10.100 like one it doesn't really show up in research but two closest thing i think it could come to

00:51:16.200 but it's still too much of a leap for him like i don't even i even think i can give him credit for

00:51:21.640 this is that people are afraid of becoming their parents and then they become their parents

00:51:25.760 and that's kind of what i'm feel like this rhymes with but i don't think he even got that far

00:51:31.720 no yeah so the the problem is and the reason why it's a fairly toxic concept

00:51:39.540 is the moment you accept the shadow the unconscious any of these things you also

00:51:46.680 call it the young conscious yes yeah you you also accept as he does this idea of repressed ideas

00:51:55.100 instincts etc and when you accept that you allow that to manifest in yourself because accepting

00:52:03.340 that something is a concept allows this image of you remember i said there's like the trope of you

00:52:10.680 that is creating your this this mental model that you've created of yourself to adopt those traits

00:52:16.320 and it will adopt this shadow self as a component of itself which is one of the problems with these

00:52:24.420 ideas is somebody will have had them for a long time and tell me malcolm but i experience all

00:52:30.840 these things and i'm like of course you experience them the moment you accept them they are then able

00:52:37.080 to build into your self-identity if you steal yourself against them as really just not real

00:52:45.440 concepts, as silly as supernatural things, then they can't affect you in the same way.

00:52:53.920 So to continue here, and if you're like, oh, but why is it so, because this is like,

00:52:59.340 while it may not have the same word as trauma, it basically implies trauma. It's trauma was a

00:53:05.260 nicer word. It's something that happened to you as a child changed your self-perception, right?

00:53:12.120 And, and change, sorry, changed your ability to accept certain things about yourself when

00:53:18.520 the reality is, is yes, it's true that things that happened to you in a child can affect

00:53:23.040 this adult self, but the way that they affect your adult self is by affecting the type of

00:53:31.240 person that you want to be.

00:53:33.840 And, and the type of person you have crafted the, the mental model of yourself, that's

00:53:37.420 always running and judging like what emotions you should feel to things that that mental model

00:53:42.880 embodies well and even more simply he just gives a ton of excuses to develop an external locus of

00:53:50.520 control exactly it's not my fault it's my repressed memories it's my shadow self it's the collective

00:53:57.060 unconscious it's just like oh everything's anyone else's fault but yours you're not responsible for

00:54:02.920 your own actions so don't worry about it just see your therapist more well yeah yeah yeah yeah and

00:54:09.320 this is this is why this is really dangerous in like right-wing spaces and stuff like that in

00:54:13.140 manosphere spaces and why i push against it so much within these spaces anything that attempts

00:54:18.720 to over complicate how your thinking works in in a big way especially if it can be used to

00:54:26.580 externalize responsibility for your own mind like what could be worse than externalizing

00:54:33.320 responsibility for your thoughts for real you you are not responsible for your own thoughts yeah

00:54:41.280 so bad it's so bad yes how do shadow forms operate formation as we develop our conscious

00:54:50.940 identity ego and persona we replace or split aspects of ourselves that don't align with what

00:54:56.580 family, society, culture, our ego ideal. I love that this is where he gets something right.

00:55:03.380 People do separate out aspects of potentially their capabilities. Maybe there's something

00:55:08.740 that they're uniquely good at, like music or something like that, or something that they

00:55:12.840 really enjoy. Now, this could be due to biological tendencies or something like that. They just

00:55:17.540 happen to enjoy this. But they think that they shouldn't lean into that thing. And they might

00:55:23.400 build that into their self-conception that we've talked about in a way that it doesn't need to.

00:55:29.660 But this isn't what he's talking about. He's covering that, but then he's adding all of this

00:55:33.840 extra stuff. Then you get projection, a key mechanism. We often see our own disowned traits

00:55:39.120 in other people. What we strongly dislike, judge, or react to in others is frequently a mirror of

00:55:46.140 our shadow. For example, somebody who prides themselves in being always kind might intensely

00:55:51.780 criticize selfish people while unconsciously harboring selfish impulses themselves. And again,

00:55:58.820 this isn't a trait that you need to have. If you believe that people have this trait,

00:56:03.780 you may adopt it. But I have lived my entire life, and I feel like I am an exceptionally good

00:56:09.880 at reading people person, and the vast majority of people just don't do this. They will have

00:56:14.800 traits in other people that trigger them, but those traits aren't exactly an inversion of

00:56:20.120 traits that they secretly have in themselves and don't want to that one sort of contrary to

00:56:25.700 everything we understand about i don't know biology psychology sociology the only the only

00:56:32.900 time where you really see something i think kind of like this that i do see is like the closeted

00:56:38.920 gay person who is extra critical of gay people which is a phenomenon that you see but i don't

00:56:45.520 think that that's because of this i just think that sometimes if there is something that you

00:56:52.760 struggle with yourself whether it's gayness or in this case it could be greed or anything like that

00:56:58.020 and you don't like that aspect of yourself being reminded of that aspect of yourself

00:57:04.400 is kind of mad is going to create negative emotions within yourself i think it's simpler

00:57:11.340 than that uh which is that we we frequently like to talk about how much we love this concept of

00:57:15.940 offense you only feel offended when something credibly threatens your worldview and when you

00:57:22.560 experience something let's say you're same-sex attracted and you experience other same-sex

00:57:28.200 attracted people and feel this underlying sense of attraction yourself it credibly threatens your

00:57:32.940 worldview i'm the straight guy i feel threatened because right now i feel slightly aroused at this

00:57:37.900 thing or like i you know kind of feel this pull to this group that i know that's not part of my

00:57:41.600 identity and then you get really angry you get offended and that's what's showing up i don't

00:57:45.460 think it's like some kind of opposite reaction thing showing up it is it is someone being

00:57:48.920 offended and acting like someone offended yeah and and i think that that's just really you don't

00:57:55.620 need all of this extra idea like a shadow self to understand why if somebody's struggling with

00:58:00.460 something something and they see somebody else especially somebody caving to it think of it

00:58:05.460 like this you know somebody's an alcoholic or something like that and they're trying to get over

00:58:09.960 their alcoholism so they have an impulse and they're struggling to resist that impulse and

00:58:14.260 then they see somebody around them indulge in drinking with apparently no consequences to them

00:58:18.520 right like obviously that's going to make them angry right like that's going to create the anger

00:58:23.900 emotion but that you don't need the whole concept of a shadow self to explain that yeah yeah no i

00:58:30.960 think overall Jungian psychology is the kind of thing we've talked about this in other episodes

00:58:36.040 where it really appeals to bids and people broadly who it doesn't quite make sense to them but

00:58:44.180 because it doesn't make sense to them and they're sufficiently intelligent to be able to parrot it

00:58:48.680 they think that it also won't make sense to other people and those other people won't they'll just

00:58:54.420 take their word for it of like oh well I guess that person's smarter than me because I don't

00:58:58.540 understand this and they're talking about it very confidently. And therefore they, you know,

00:59:03.340 oh, you know, they win this dominance game. When in the end, I think most people who are proponents

00:59:08.920 of Jungian psychology don't understand it and just think it makes them look smart. Does that make

00:59:12.480 sense? Yeah. By the way, I should also explain our theory on anger. Anger is actually a very

00:59:19.260 similar motion to surprise anger is what is created in your brain when something doesn't

00:59:28.500 happen as you expect within a negative context so this is in this case it would be you have an

00:59:36.640 expectation of the type of person you are and you are reminded that that is not accurate and that

00:59:43.520 creates surprise with a negative contextual framing so you feel anger or somebody treats

00:59:50.180 you in a way this is how you get like anger loops between two groups where a you know trans person

00:59:55.860 goes up to an extremely religious christian person and the extremely religious christian person is

01:00:02.140 generates anger because this person is labeling themselves in a way that they don't expect and

01:00:08.080 it creates surprise to them in a in a negative context and then the trans person expects to be

01:00:12.820 gendered correctly and the christian person isn't doing that so then they get mad at them

01:00:16.760 which creates further surprise in this other population because they didn't expect you know

01:00:20.860 even even on top of all that this person is getting mad and then you can get anger cycles

01:00:24.140 really easily um and it's important to be able to understand like what causes emotions exactly

01:00:30.900 because as soon as you can put your finger on this is and you'll really see this purest form

01:00:35.900 of anger when you experienced anger due to attempting to do something mechanical that

01:00:43.700 doesn't work out the way you expect it to this is like you run code and it ends up not working

01:00:48.960 or you click a button and it doesn't do the thing you expect it or your earphones get yoinked out

01:00:53.500 of your ears by something if they're wired that unique rage you're like oh yes the unique rage

01:01:01.120 it's so stupid because it doesn't hurt but it's still rage inducing but but you see what i mean

01:01:07.240 there's no reason with most other explanations of anger that that would induce anger but when

01:01:12.020 you understand that anger is just a negative contextualized surprise you're like oh that's

01:01:16.860 why i get angry out of nowhere when i stub my toe i have no reason to be angry when i stub my toe or

01:01:23.780 step on a lego right and yet those are some of the the highest levels of anger you will experience

01:01:29.280 in your entire life but anyway i'll note here that there is another category here where it can

01:01:35.060 be so negative that it just creates shock this is like having your arm shot off or something

01:01:40.560 but this isn't exactly anger this is more like a specific mental state associated with shock

01:01:45.620 anyway and and note here once you understand where an emotion is coming from

01:01:52.300 you can change it like the moment you understand oh i'm only feeling anger because x

01:01:56.960 then instead of accidentally taking it out on the people around you nothing is worse than the person

01:02:02.300 who stubs their toe and then yells at somebody else like why did you leave the door like that

01:02:08.640 right because that's instinctively what an individual wants to do like that's how your

01:02:12.720 system works but when you understand oh the anger is working like this i can't let it hijack me

01:02:16.360 i cannot allow my brain to be hijacked by something so basil to continue here let's talk

01:02:20.580 about shadow work oh god do we oh this sounds so terrible already in the process of becoming aware

01:02:31.040 of and accepting and assimilating the shadow is central to an individual young's term for the

01:02:36.780 individualation young's term for the lifelong journey towards psychological wholeness

01:02:42.400 and becoming one's true self young outlined a rough approach not a rigid technique as it's

01:02:48.100 highly individual like diplomacy accept it exists take it seriously and recognize the dark aspect is

01:02:55.640 real and present was in you this requires moral effort and honesty he would say now do you see

01:03:02.220 immediately why i hate the concept of the shadow yeah the shadow doesn't accept exist if thing

01:03:08.720 number one is to accept that you have this problematic thing was in you now you begin to

01:03:14.760 model yourself as having this thing and you manifest it was in you where it didn't exist

01:03:20.220 beforehand. Become informed about its qualities. So now, now you're moldering on it. Oh, that's

01:03:27.540 wonderful. Observe your moods, emotional triggers, fantasies, impulses, dreams, and strong reactions

01:03:34.300 to others. Journaling, dream analysis, and active imagination, dialogue with inner figures, help.

01:03:41.700 how what what this is purely masturbatory and not very useful right you can have internal dialogue

01:03:51.400 conversations to help yourself work through questions that you have about reality in the

01:03:56.440 world or anything like that right but they should be goal directed not to to actualize right and

01:04:03.720 what you're seeing here is sort of like proto-actualization he's describing

01:04:07.740 negotiate and integrate through ongoing conscious engagement bring these parts into relationship

01:04:15.140 with the ego this doesn't mean acting on harmful impulses blindly but owning them understanding

01:04:20.220 their origin slash energy and channeling them constructively e.g turning repressed aggression

01:04:25.480 into healthy assertiveness but you don't even need to have the repressed aggression you can

01:04:29.840 just decide not to have the aggression like like there are certain impulses that you will feel

01:04:36.400 but you feel them because you have chosen to build a model of yourself which reacts to specific and

01:04:46.200 when it's not an innate thing like say anger or something like that is that stimuli and even when

01:04:51.800 it is an innate thing you can enact conscious control to sublimate it you at the end of the day

01:04:58.360 always have control of your emotions and i'll note here that the worst thing you can have in your life

01:05:04.000 is somebody who affirms emotional states in yourself that are negative and not useful for

01:05:12.240 your objective function or life purpose yes if you go to somebody and you're like

01:05:16.800 or you have a friend and they they they stoke you're like yeah you really like suppose uh you're

01:05:24.000 a wife right now and you have a group of friends and that group of friends is like oh yeah you're

01:05:28.380 really justified in being mad at your husband for doing this right that is highly toxic like

01:05:35.420 get away from them because then you will have more of these negative emotions if they're affirmed

01:05:41.540 by your community like that or by a psychologist or any environment right whereas negative emotions

01:05:48.100 where i'm saying negative here are emotions that hurt somebody's ability to achieve so they might

01:05:53.060 be positive feeling in them a lot of emotions that we describe as negative feel really good

01:05:58.880 like revenge oh yeah yeah well or at least we'll say the word might be righteous indignation instead

01:06:05.100 yeah it's really good right you see righteous indignation feels good and and so when you have

01:06:11.660 this and then somebody else affirms it in you that is uh really negative and and keep this in

01:06:19.280 with your larger friend groups guys do as well do you have a friend group who when you're like

01:06:24.460 you know my partner did x to me or or y horrible things if this ever comes up not this and male

01:06:30.280 friend groups do they say well you know here's a plausible reason why this could be a misunderstanding

01:06:34.880 you know blah blah blah or do they say wow you're really justified in being angry right now

01:06:40.480 you know because then you'll get angrier and angrier and angrier and and if you focus on

01:06:46.240 yourself in the moment whenever somebody had done this to you affirmed a negative emotion

01:06:50.760 i'm sure people have noticed that's when anger or sadness often begins to spiral out of control

01:06:56.840 actually here's an interesting just side note on women in groups and mate blocking specifically

01:07:02.480 it is very very common in female groups for righteous indignation to be fueled so you know

01:07:08.880 if a woman is like oh like i was just treated this way at work or something like that the typical

01:07:14.100 appropriate female network response is, oh my gosh, I can't believe that, you know, you've been

01:07:19.840 so wronged, blah, blah, blah. I think while that's normative, it's also a sub, maybe subconscious

01:07:28.220 mate blocking tactic because it ultimately leads to long-term disempowerment and increases the

01:07:35.060 competitiveness of those who don't engage in that activity. So just like a woman might say,

01:07:40.020 oh no you're beautiful when like you know someone doesn't look very good in their group

01:07:45.560 no don't you know like don't don't change anything you know because then they're they're

01:07:50.840 ultimately better off competitively I think this is something similar to that and I think that

01:07:55.180 you're more likely to see this kind of justification of an external locus of control in general or

01:08:00.140 justified anger or victimization in female groups and in male groups so they're just like dude you

01:08:05.340 you clearly weren't trying hard enough. Like you deserve this, which is, it seems mean,

01:08:10.540 but in the end is actually cooperative and benevolent behavior versus anti-competitive

01:08:17.260 mate blocking behavior. Just throwing that out there. So here's a young quote on the shadow.

01:08:23.780 The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego personality for no one can become

01:08:28.740 conscious of the shadow without considerable effort to become conscious of it involves

01:08:33.180 recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real this act is the essential

01:08:41.060 condition for any kind of self-knowledge so he's doing here what cults often do what woo often does

01:08:49.400 where they try to frame the type of knowledge that they have of looking special and unique

01:08:57.760 and more important than other people um uh flatters the ego right also this feeling of like

01:09:06.420 i have this dark mysterious thing inside me flatters the ego right and that's that's why

01:09:12.400 it's so tempting because it feels cool like it it's cool in the movie context if all of this

01:09:20.380 was true if your life was a battle between some dark shadow living in your heart you know what i

01:09:26.220 mean um it's poetic it's it's and a lot of his work was like about that like how do we

01:09:33.780 make the story better so to be fast on these last steps he had like psychological types where he

01:09:40.760 goes into like extroversion introversion stuff like that i think it's pretty boring

01:09:43.440 the central goal of his philosophy is individualization lifelong process element towards

01:09:50.620 wholeness integrating consciousness and unconscious elements treating the unique

01:09:54.940 individual from the collective while connecting more deeply to the self it involves confronting

01:10:01.360 and assimilating the shadow relating to the anima or animus that's like you're male or feminine

01:10:06.600 and transcending the persona not about becoming quote-unquote perfect or ego inflated but achieving

01:10:13.640 balance authentic personality often intensifies in midlife the second half of life shifting from

01:10:21.300 adaptation to society towards inner meaning and yeah this is i mean you can see why i just be like

01:10:28.500 this is just a waste of time yeah seriously this stuff is manifested in your mental landscape by

01:10:35.840 believing it i really want to make this point you can have any anything oh here's an example

01:10:42.500 right even something totally stupid like an oedipus complex right that like women get jealous

01:10:49.840 of their dads because their dads have a penis. Is that the Oedipus? No, no, no. That's penis

01:10:55.700 envy. You're referring, so an Oedipus complex is where the son wants to kill the father and

01:11:01.640 marry the mother. Okay. So suppose you, Oedipus complex, you're a normal person. You're like,

01:11:07.740 this is stupid. This isn't a real thing. But suppose somebody managed to convince you

01:11:12.140 that the Oedipus Conflict was a 100% real thing.

01:11:17.080 Now you would say,

01:11:19.300 oh, well, I guess I have a secret desire

01:11:22.260 to kill my dad and sleep with my mom, right?

01:11:25.640 And you begin to build this into yourself

01:11:28.880 because you now believe that this is real

01:11:32.460 and now this is something you have to deal with.

01:11:36.520 This is why it is so critical that you don't do this.

01:11:39.600 the craziest ideas out there like well penis envy would be another one right like a girl believes

01:11:45.260 this now all of a sudden she experiences it to some extent because she sees what she now believes

01:11:52.920 within herself right the the brain is if you see our episode that we did recently on placebos

01:12:01.020 yes they're incredibly powerful or right or maybe exorcism is where we talk more about

01:12:06.640 yes yes you can build these things into yourself you can build psychological illnesses into

01:12:12.600 yourself you can build all of these negative traits into yourself you can build these challenges

01:12:18.240 into yourself we even talked about this in our episode on spoonies from way back yeah watch your

01:12:24.260 spoonies episode if you're a long time subscriber and you haven't seen it because it's a good one

01:12:27.500 i think and they're a useful thing to know about we actually have two spoonies episodes we have one

01:12:30.920 where we interviewed barry weiss's sister on it suzy weiss yeah cool person we should ask her back

01:12:36.920 on no that we're she's very busy and important now oh very busy and important mrs suzy weiss

01:12:43.960 she is i don't know you want to or whatever now yeah man cbs kind of a anyway go on well then

01:12:54.440 that's it that's it this is where we are this is why i've talked about this we hate him he's this

01:12:59.660 This is why it's important to keep your mental models of how your brain works lean and be

01:13:06.780 first principles in how you construct them, because it is too easy to invent the problems

01:13:11.420 that you're dealing with.

01:13:12.600 And you can be like, well, I could just swear that I definitely, definitely do have this

01:13:16.540 shadow self because it makes me cool and special and awesome.

01:13:18.920 And you don't have it because you just aren't thinking enough about yourself, right?

01:13:24.940 and i'd point out well then why don't i deal with any negative consequences from not addressing it

01:13:30.180 then right like presumably if i do secretly have it and i'm just not addressing it

01:13:34.980 simone you live with me 24 7 right do i have some like hidden dark side to my personality

01:13:41.460 well it's not hidden

01:13:43.940 what's the dark side then what's the the negative aspect of my personality

01:13:50.120 come on

01:13:55.740 you're just i'm not gonna say it on air it's it's nothing you act on oh oh you mean

01:14:07.300 the arousal pathway yes that's not what we're talking about here okay well that's not caused

01:14:15.620 by like a shadow self that's something i fully admit okay and it's one of these things that

01:14:21.320 like it's it's like not something that i'm even remotely embarrassed about i i should say or that

01:14:29.500 i would be particularly embarrassed about talking about and i have even on the show hypothesized

01:14:35.280 that it is unique to my demographic group and the reason why i hypothesized that was both due to

01:14:43.760 statistics around that social group but also like there are other reasons i think it's genetic but

01:14:49.460 simone had me remove this one god okay are you just gonna say it or you know i'm not gonna say

01:14:55.160 it but okay the point being is basically just very extreme aggression um yeah but that's not

01:15:03.280 something i act on it's not something that controls me it's not something that no but you're right

01:15:07.640 it's not it's not a hidden part of your your personality so that's fair there there is no

01:15:12.400 there is no hidden part of you that is yeah that is no but i'm so what i'm like counter to your

01:15:18.240 personality which i guess for you would be like oh you know what i guess that this movie shows up

01:15:24.260 in these stereotypes of like men who are super powerful but need a dominatrix that kind of thing

01:15:31.060 um no i just think that's part of their their sexuality and like you don't need to act on

01:15:38.280 your sexuality you don't need to obsess about your sexuality you didn't choose your sexuality

01:15:42.080 I think sexuality is just completely untied from really much else about you. It's just something

01:15:48.500 that you randomly have and it doesn't need to be a big part of your daily thoughts or anything like

01:15:55.580 that, right? Like it doesn't need to be part of your rituals. It doesn't need to be part of how

01:16:01.640 you self-conceptualize. And by understanding this, you can free yourself from a lot of the negatives

01:16:08.360 it might come with it, right? Like, oh, I should actually indulge in this. I should actually talk

01:16:12.940 about this. But what I'm talking about, Simone, is what somebody would say is you don't address

01:16:17.880 your shadow. And if you don't address your shadow, that you're going to like have outbursts at people

01:16:27.140 or you're going to be secretly cruel to people or you're going to, you know, be greedy or selfish

01:16:34.640 or and so what i'm asking you is is in those types of things the types of things people

01:16:38.980 think that the shadow actually manifests do you see that behavior from me like ever no

01:16:45.160 no and simone you haven't tried to address some shadow in yourself have you

01:16:50.360 no okay so i will say as somebody married to simone they're like she has no negative traits

01:17:00.120 she has malcolm you have you have some eccentricities like not liking being touched

01:17:05.520 when you're eating but that again is something that's a random biologically inherited thing

01:17:12.780 that has nothing to do with who you are as a person and you harness it insofar that it doesn't

01:17:20.660 come out in any way that is societally not useful

01:17:24.140 well thanks i appreciate that i think in the end like it's just really bad anything that helps you

01:17:31.780 develop an external locus of control and anything that has you overthinking stuff or getting too far

01:17:36.080 up into your head not good just try it and i'll note here something that is really bad that can

01:17:41.820 happen is when you don't accept your biological realities and you assume that they're because of

01:17:46.080 like a shadow self you can end up going on these like endless side quests you know like you you are

01:17:51.740 you're uncertain, like in Simone's case, you're, you don't know why you don't like, you have,

01:17:57.180 you want to measure all your food and you don't like being touched when you're eating and you

01:18:01.140 have other sensory issues. Um, and essentially just accepting like, I'm like autistic. My brain

01:18:05.620 is put together differently. You say, oh, it's because I have an unresolved trauma somewhere

01:18:10.700 in my life that I'm just going to dig, dig, dig, dig, dig at, right? Pick, pick, pick at. And that

01:18:16.380 allows you to create because now, because you're never actually going to address this thing. Cause

01:18:20.060 that's just part of who you are, you end up creating this giant statue of the shadow in

01:18:25.120 your mind and it ends up actually having negative effects. And you see this a lot in like a

01:18:30.920 conservative individual who doesn't understand why they deal with same-sex attraction. They just

01:18:34.860 happen to be born with some same-sex attraction. And again, the reason I say that it's likely

01:18:39.620 something you're born with or you get through Parasite, see our episode on that, is because

01:18:43.300 like i would i would admit to you if i felt an ounce of same-sex attraction and i don't i find

01:18:50.680 it i get quite a disgust reaction to that stuff and it's not because i was trained to because i

01:18:54.880 i'm not i wasn't trained to be aroused by some of the things that aroused me right like

01:18:59.600 it's just not part of my biology if i then go on some deep quest about like what happened in

01:19:06.720 my childhood that made me x way i'm gonna end up obsessing over that yeah fair and and then i end

01:19:16.460 up building a shadow and then it never goes away because it had nothing to do with a shadow it had

01:19:20.680 nothing to do with any of that it was just a random roll of the cards that i didn't need to

01:19:25.660 make an important part of myself that i didn't need to act on that i didn't need to indulge it

01:19:29.840 anyway screw young i love you i love you too and you are an amazing woman you're an amazing husband

01:19:42.540 and man which one do you want to do next whichever one you want let's do mine here's a taste of

01:19:53.060 octavian's sense of humor by the way i was just bantering with him and talking because we we

01:19:58.680 were we measured the boys again this morning against the door and i was like yeah octavian

01:20:04.720 someday you'll be taller than me and i think he just thinks that humans just grow indefinitely

01:20:09.300 like that i'll grow too but this wasn't apparent to me when he decided to crack what he thought

01:20:14.860 was a joke and he's like oh yeah because you'll be dead ha ha ha get it you'll be dead he just

01:20:21.640 kept saying that i was like okay thanks now i think we've explained to him that all humans

01:20:28.440 died he just thinks it's hilarious yeah he's like we don't have your youtube plaque when you're dead

01:20:35.960 that that's like that and he'll miss our house that's kind of did he ask for the youtube plaque

01:20:41.440 this time though no he's he's kind of forgotten about that for a while i guess he just so on us

01:20:47.120 the other we haven't even won that yet you know this is just assuming he's preemptively

01:20:51.480 hoping for it yeah 100k so please subscribe for our child for when we die yes yes maybe this is

01:20:58.960 the only time someone has asked for a subscribe for that please subscribe because our son wants

01:21:04.440 us to die and then to take the plaque so you know have pity on this orphan so what is it that i

01:21:11.920 wanted to say yeah so in relation to the tucker episode new conspiracy theory dropped where

01:21:17.760 somebody in the comments was like it's really weird how whenever somebody starts to question

01:21:23.980 the jews or israel you know two three years later they're just completely crazy like every time

01:21:30.900 right no matter how sane they were to begin with like tucker carlson yeah yeah and and my take on

01:21:37.600 this is that massad secretly is poisoning people as soon as they become ask any questions about

01:21:44.240 it's real so that they go crazy it's like a mad hatter kind of situation they're they're getting

01:21:48.040 like lead lead laced mercury or something yeah yeah lead or something i think they go crazy like

01:21:53.280 candace owens that somehow made her more famous to go crazy i know they're like this backfired

01:21:57.900 terribly what have we done backfired terribly i i actually wonder about a full episode on that

01:22:05.780 trying to draw like okay let's assume this program is real how would they start how are they

01:22:11.320 administering the the poison what would be a good long-term poison to cause these effects in people

01:22:16.380 yeah it would need yeah gosh what because i mean the way that tucker carlson has gone off the rails

01:22:24.380 is different from the way that nick fuentes and candace owens have gone off the rails which i

01:22:28.060 think is the biggest refutation of this conspiracy theory because if they were all acting schizophrenic

01:22:32.580 like candace owens who's connecting dots where there are no connections it's very different from

01:22:38.120 the way that tucker carlson is going off the rails which is basically just favoring the the views of

01:22:44.800 everyone who's not american or being sort of a weather vane of those around him and it just

01:22:49.360 happens to be chic for elite americans to hate america and chic for people in the middle east

01:22:56.320 and japan to like their i don't know i mean he said some pretty crazy stuff i actually you know

01:23:01.140 you can even look at this historically you can argue that hitler ended up going crazy right you

01:23:05.060 could argue that well come on we knew that that was all the methamphetamines and everything else

01:23:08.900 he was well what if what if engaging in any form of anti-semitism actually does just make you go

01:23:17.580 crazy like what if they're god's favored people and so if you decide it's god smiting them it's

01:23:23.560 not god smiting them with madness yeah maybe i can't trace it through history has god been

01:23:29.780 smiting anyone who attacks the jews with madness yeah starting with pharaoh well you could go over

01:23:34.920 roman emperors because a lot of roman emperors were both mad and targeted the jews the question

01:23:39.220 is does that overlap yeah and and we're the we're the pro-jew ones if there were any less crazy

01:23:46.080 very interesting question actually yeah i'm not i'm feeling a whole episode form here oh boy

01:23:54.040 oh boy oh no you call him titan

01:24:00.300 I think we call him just a pinker.

01:24:03.820 What do you call him?

01:24:04.460 Titan.

01:24:05.040 What do you call him?

01:24:06.620 I call him pinker too, but he's pink.

01:24:14.000 Is he pink?

01:24:15.260 Yeah.

01:24:16.880 What else do you call him?

01:24:18.100 Pinker is an ugly color.

01:24:21.660 Pinker is an ugly color.

01:24:22.980 Titan, do you think pink is an ugly color?

01:24:25.040 No.

01:24:27.260 It's just a cool color.

01:24:29.020 Was that because you're a boy, Octavian?

01:24:34.280 Yes.

01:24:35.320 Yeah, boys hate pink.

01:24:37.860 And boys...

01:24:39.880 Did you know Octavian, pink used to be the color for little boys?

01:24:44.880 Yeah.

01:24:46.740 Octavian, I want to tell you something very scary.

01:24:52.460 What?

01:24:53.200 There is a type of person out there who wants to make you into a girl.

01:24:56.320 no no no no octavian this isn't a joke this is real there is a type of bad person out there

01:25:06.460 that wants to turn you into a girl like me i want to shoot him in the head well that might

01:25:14.320 be a little intense octavian and eat him and eat him for dinner you want to kill him and eat him

01:25:21.220 It's meat.

01:25:23.680 What part of the body do we not eat?

01:25:26.720 Yeah, I can't eat.

01:25:27.420 What's the rule?

01:25:28.760 What part of the body?

01:25:30.200 No harm.

01:25:31.240 No.

01:25:31.900 No.

01:25:32.620 Parts are fine.

01:25:33.920 No.

01:25:34.960 Come on, I told you this so many times.

01:25:37.280 What part do we not eat?

01:25:39.420 The lungs.

01:25:40.780 No.

01:25:42.040 The skin.

01:25:43.580 No.

01:25:44.680 This is really hard.

01:25:46.360 The brain.

01:25:48.220 We never eat brain.

01:25:49.480 Because you can get prion diseases and die.

01:25:52.020 Yeah, very dangerous.

01:25:53.820 Mind you and everything else, not the fight.

01:25:57.460 But I have to make a video.

01:26:00.420 Stop it, buddy.

01:26:01.620 I own that.

01:26:04.180 I own that.

01:26:06.160 And I own you.

01:26:14.240 I own the world.

01:26:18.020 I own it.

01:26:19.480 Do you see what I have here?

01:26:27.800 Are there slippers?

01:26:28.920 Yes.

01:26:30.060 She's being like, ow, that hurt.

01:26:35.520 Got a leech on me.

01:26:41.780 You okay, buddy?

01:26:42.800 You okay, buddy?

01:26:49.480 Look, look, look, there's going to be a giant ship.

01:26:53.300 Are they going to blow something up?

01:26:55.020 Look, look, look!

01:26:56.680 A giant ship!

01:27:00.980 Wow.

01:27:02.260 In the next house.

01:27:04.320 Titan, Titan, Titan.

01:27:06.660 Did you know that there's people out there who want to turn you into a boy?

01:27:10.280 Oh, no.

01:27:11.640 They turn me into a cat.

01:27:14.340 Oh, no, they're mean people who want to turn you into a boy.

01:27:17.560 No, because you already are there.

01:27:22.880 Watch out!

01:27:23.640 You're going to knock that over.

01:27:32.480 Octavian, you're in trouble.

01:27:33.780 You're not paying attention.

01:27:34.580 I'm not paying attention.

01:27:37.860 But you do need to be careful because they did this to one of our friend's kids, Octavian.

01:27:42.380 Actually, multiple friends' kids.

01:27:43.500 Multiple friends' kids.

01:27:44.980 No, no, hurry!

01:27:46.020 Octavian, do you understand what I'm saying?

01:27:51.260 So one of our friends, hold on, listen.

01:27:54.940 They took their little boy and they turned him into a girl.

01:27:59.220 Why?

01:28:00.600 Why?

01:28:01.400 Because they tricked him.

01:28:05.600 Oh, yeah.

01:28:08.260 And you know what they did?

01:28:10.640 They cut off his whoopee.

01:28:12.440 this is real

01:28:16.220 kind of

01:28:20.180 and then they got very sad

01:28:33.380 and you want to hear something crazy

01:28:34.840 they didn't like

01:28:37.260 their mommy and daddy anymore

01:28:38.760 helicopters because that's what these people do they make you hate your mommy

01:28:44.520 and daddy and they make you a girl you probably shouldn't just like

01:28:51.320 immediately kill them because then they'll say that I don't know you're

01:29:01.020 They're overly aggressive or something.

01:29:03.320 And I would kill all of them.

01:29:05.200 And I would kill all of the people who said that.

01:29:09.120 And even the people who want to kill us.

01:29:11.940 Okay.

01:29:12.800 And even the camera.

01:29:16.420 I own the viewers.

01:29:19.220 I own the viewers.

01:29:23.780 I own the viewers.

01:29:26.000 Octavia, don't say that.

01:29:27.140 They'll think that's me.

01:29:27.740 I own the viewers.

01:29:28.680 Say, you want them to like and subscribe and you like them, not that you own them.

01:29:32.780 I want them to look and subscribe.

01:29:37.900 And I want them to see me.

01:29:40.800 And I want to...

01:29:44.460 I want them.

01:29:49.760 So, because they are me and I own them.

Based Camp - March 30, 2026

How Carl Jung Corrupted Right-Wing Intellectualism

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