Based Camp - February 13, 2024


How Child Support Laws Could Cause Human Speciation


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In this episode, Simone and I discuss the concept of speciation, which is the evolution of a new ecological niche or ecological niche, and the process of spreading beneficial mutations within populations to create new ecological niches.

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00:00:00.000 i almost feel like there's been speciation culturally like even within generations so
00:00:04.980 there's not like a genetic incompatibility but we've reached a point at which like some groups
00:00:09.660 are now so culturally and like worldview incompatible that they're almost like different
00:00:19.840 species like each of them will view the other like an animal that they cannot comprehend and
00:00:23.980 they cannot possibly have a soul because they're so different and they don't make any sense and
00:00:29.300 they cannot empathize with them and they will not see them as human and that really scares me because
00:00:33.200 when you get that level of a lack of ability to empathize or relate to other groups that's when
00:00:39.700 you start seeing atrocities that's when you start seeing violence and i i very much worry about it
00:00:45.180 would you like to know more hello simone hello gorgeous okay so remember that day where you
00:00:51.680 gave me this tweet to edit and i edited it and i had no idea what you're talking about and then i i i
00:00:57.120 tweeted it and then subsequently deleted it because you're like you completely ruined my point and i
00:01:01.260 didn't understand your point at all because your point and i find this very intriguing is that child
00:01:07.940 support could cause human speciation walk me through this malcolm okay so in not child care which she 0.99
00:01:15.700 changed it to which is a nonsensical statement child care could not none of this made sense to me
00:01:20.120 so help help so this involves understanding how speciation happens in animals and how humans
00:01:27.460 bred in a historical context so first let's talk about speciation in animals there are two core types
00:01:34.740 of speciation you could either have something called geographic isolation or something called behavioral
00:01:41.180 isolation geographic isolation happens when something like you have a population of deer and then a
00:01:48.300 stream starts to form between them and then the stream gets bigger and bigger and bigger and
00:01:52.660 eventually becomes a river or like two continents drift apart or something like that or an animal
00:01:57.560 gets stuck on an island in the middle of nowhere what you're having in all of these instances is two
00:02:01.900 populations of the same species have become genetically isolated from each other so mutations that are
00:02:08.360 happening in one part of the species are no longer drifting to the other part of the species okay so
00:02:14.620 typically if you have a population of animals and they're all interbreeding with each other
00:02:18.720 any beneficial mutation is going to increase within the species as a whole right you know it will begin
00:02:27.060 to spread throughout all members of the species and then in in you know help the species as a whole but if
00:02:32.560 it's isolated with two populations you might have some beneficial mutations spreading within this group
00:02:37.500 and other beneficial mutations spreading within this group and now these two groups end up having sort of
00:02:45.040 a new optimal state in which different types of beneficial mutations are benefiting each group because they are
00:02:50.900 utilizing different ecological niches or utilizing different strategies to take advantage of their ecological niche
00:02:58.220 now this is a form of speciation that most people are familiar with if you're studying evolution at like a
00:03:03.720 child's level like this is how it's often explained but then you also have behavioral isolation which is
00:03:09.420 maybe even more common as a form of speciation behavioral isolation happens when one of the mutations
00:03:16.040 ends up isolating the portion of the population that has it from the rest of the population at a
00:03:24.400 breeding level so let me give an example here that's very easy to understand suppose you have a nocturnal
00:03:30.940 species and then some behavioral trait like mutation causes a portion of that species to become only
00:03:37.240 active during the day okay these two populations can be living in the same area but they're no longer
00:03:43.520 interbreeding yeah completely genetically isolated from each other and this this happens more common
00:03:50.740 where we're actually or like you have a change that causes a change in what some of the females look like 1.00
00:03:56.520 in a species but it turns out that some of the males in that species still like this and some of the
00:04:00.520 males don't still like this i mean so then you have sort of sexual behavioral isolation right
00:04:04.940 what behavioral isolation looks like or it might be instead of nocturnal versus day it might be that
00:04:12.320 it's a species of turtles right then the species of turtles would always go to this one little island
00:04:18.060 or place to breed and have sex right and lay eggs but then this other faction within the turtles is
00:04:23.820 okay with having eggs anywhere then you have isolation of those two groups right
00:04:27.660 where they have slightly different navigational prospects coded into them due to a mutation and
00:04:32.900 that causes them to breed on a different beach now you have behavioral isolation which is also sort
00:04:37.260 of geographic isolation and an interesting way because they're not actually geographically isolated
00:04:41.440 so what behavioral isolation looks like classically within a population cluster is you have some
00:04:49.080 genetically linked trait and then you have a sort of u-curve on a graph so what that means is for
00:04:55.600 individuals who have a lot of the trait on this side they're having a lot of kids for individuals
00:05:00.680 have a middling amount of this genetically linked trait they have very few kids for people on the
00:05:05.040 other side they have a lot of kids that is what behavioral isolation looks like that is the graph we
00:05:11.000 see with iq or well not iq but earning potential at least wealth with wealth yeah wealth and fertility
00:05:19.060 wealth has a high correlation with things like iq things like educational attainment things like all
00:05:25.800 sorts of genetically linked traits and interestingly it doesn't just go to that it goes to the other
00:05:32.120 genetically linked traits so you see this in things like weight for example the people who have the
00:05:37.260 most kids aren't just the least wealthy kids they're also the most obese kid the people and this is
00:05:42.620 obesity not just at like the accidental obesity level but at the polygenic risk score so at the
00:05:48.460 my genetics obesity level the polygenic risk scores that us track with obesity now keep in mind this is
00:05:54.040 not due to some sort of difference in metabolic rate humans even within like two standard deviations
00:05:59.300 of the standard metabolic rate only really differ by like 200 calories a day this is due to self-control
00:06:06.000 reasons well yeah or when exposed to highly processed food people with a certain collection of genes
00:06:11.860 appear to have less ability to not overindulge right yeah and i i say this is somebody who believes that
00:06:18.780 i have a genetic predilection for a specific susceptibility to types of alcohol addiction
00:06:24.160 um so i am not saying that like i am above this but this is a different type of addictive
00:06:29.580 process which is not correlated with wealth which is an interesting thing like if you look at most of the
00:06:35.460 most impactful people in human history they drank a ton like a ton like a ton more than normal people
00:06:41.640 whether it's alexander the great or kubla khan or churchill churchill it's just something you see
00:06:47.940 yeah a lot of these people i don't know if it's something to do with the deficiency in this pathway
00:06:54.340 gives one an advantage within certain types of leadership roles or if it's that the pathway is has
00:07:00.720 some sort of genetic okay so hold on i'll explain something that can happen with gene sometimes
00:07:04.240 sometimes a beneficial gene is like right next to a bad gene on on like the way that the human genome
00:07:11.600 is coded and so it means that most mutations that are selecting for the beneficial gene also select for
00:07:16.940 the bad gene it wouldn't be surprising to me if alcoholism propensity is somewhere on that was in the
00:07:24.540 genetic strand or it could be that it's literally the same gene like it's literally the same part of the
00:07:30.300 neurochemical pathway that leads to these advantages that cause an alexander the great or a kubla khan
00:07:35.720 sorry i had meant to say ogadi khan here actually funny story his counselors became so worried about his
00:07:43.300 copious they made a rule for him that he could only drink one glass of wine a day and so he had a giant
00:07:49.520 chalice fashioned that could hold multiple gallons of wine and rebellion to this rule or winston
00:07:56.340 churchill a lot of people don't seem to realize how much winston churchill drank so for example if
00:08:01.820 we're just talking about champagne winston churchill consumed 42 000 bottles of paul roger champagne from
00:08:08.440 1908 to 1962 never switching to another brand that breaks down to around two to three bottles per day
00:08:15.200 on average there's reports of him during the war period for example having six scotches before dinner
00:08:21.760 on top of other beverages he would often he'd wake up with a paul roger champagne for breakfast
00:08:27.580 then another pint at lunch and then a 10 ounce a series of 10 ounce glasses of scotch and whiskey for
00:08:33.120 dinner and several more glasses of whiskey as nightcaps so i i think we did the math on this in
00:08:38.720 one of our books because we got like a thing and he drank the equivalent of i think it was like
00:08:43.120 four and a half bottles of hard liquor a day uh so a lot a lot are causing but that's a completely
00:08:51.180 different thing we're going to get to this is not correlated with obesity obesity is not correlated
00:08:56.100 with outside leadership or economic success is actually inversely correlated with it but actually
00:09:00.940 what you're seeing here within the the the human genome is two strategies for reproduction that are
00:09:09.360 both successful in our current socioeconomic environment now the problem is is that the high
00:09:15.300 wealth strategy you need to be extremely wealthy you only get above repopulation rate again at least
00:09:20.140 within the u.s if your family is earning over half a million a year but as you go up from there
00:09:24.900 your fertility rate just gets higher and higher and higher now my suspicion has been this dual 0.97
00:09:30.800 optimization around fertility strategies might have been the case for a long time in human history
00:09:36.740 but it wasn't relevant and this is where child support comes in we're getting to it my so anyone who's
00:09:47.560 familiar one of my favorite sort of sex books for learning about the history of sexuality is my
00:09:51.760 secret life and it was written by a victorian noble about his sex capades going around they might have
00:09:57.860 been pre-victorian but it was it was early you know i think it was victorian and he and this was in
00:10:02.500 across different cultures can different continents the man covered a lot of ground in many and he'd talk
00:10:07.540 about how he would sleep with peasant girls and where how peasant girls were different from sleeping
00:10:11.360 with noble girls and how you could convince a girl you met like farming in a field to sleep with you
00:10:16.440 it had like a full strategy for like every it was like oh innkeeper's daughters this is how you seduce
00:10:22.520 innkeeper's daughters this is what innkeeper's daughters are like in bed but this man was clearly
00:10:27.440 in this you know upper class community right and i should point out when i'm talking about like
00:10:31.980 upper class communities they are remarkably persistent intergenerationally even when the odds are really
00:10:37.980 against it one of the most shocking studies that i had ever seen was looking at in china so people who
00:10:43.620 don't know how thorough the chinese revolution was it created a societal inversion read the red scarf 0.98
00:10:49.780 girls really great book at showing how bad it was for people there if you're interested in this
00:10:53.900 but in china when they went through the cultural revolution the amount of wealth a family had had
00:10:59.740 before that and the amount of social and political power the family had had was inversely correlated to
00:11:05.120 their new status whereas farmers were the highest status individuals and the former wealthy were abused and
00:11:11.160 really just like it was horrifying the lifestyle they had to go through they had nothing and they now
00:11:16.400 became basically the untouchable cast of society what is shocking is that if you look at the ccp today 1.00
00:11:21.900 um after a few generations of this it was something like 85 percent of the leadership cast of the ccp 1.00
00:11:27.840 comes from families that were previously in the this untouchable intellectual class slash successful
00:11:34.560 wealthy dynastic uh you know from the dynasty period of china i think similar findings resulted
00:11:41.140 from looking at like post-soviet social composition as well so in in a couple of different cases it has
00:11:48.600 been found that families that had a lot of wealth and or power or influence and then had that removed
00:11:56.480 then within a few generations after the exogenous corrective mechanism was removed found themselves once
00:12:04.300 again in positions of wealth and power and again we're just like citing like objective research here like
00:12:10.000 you can go out you can find this research like this is not like these days can you find this research
00:12:14.680 not if you ask chat gpt not if you google it i mean well i think you can google it these days still i
00:12:20.240 don't think they scrub the internet of this but i'll see when i'm doing the the episode because i often
00:12:23.800 try to post like pictures of it and maybe it's all gone now i think i still have the links i we can try
00:12:28.800 to add these to the show notes because i i really don't know if people are going to be able to find it
00:12:32.380 otherwise so what you had historically is you have these two different reproductive strategies but they 0.90
00:12:37.780 weren't completely behaviorally isolated and the reason they weren't behaviorally isolated
00:12:42.080 is because women are often unfaithful to their husbands as you know you know we've talked about 1.00
00:12:47.980 then this study is inflated because it was looking at what guys who thought their wives had cheated on
00:12:55.020 them but when we go to something like a third of of kids when the husband wasn't sure actually turned
00:13:00.000 out to be from another guy i think population overall it's something like three percent or five percent or
00:13:06.220 something like that really quite low that's not low from a genetic standpoint from a genetic
00:13:11.740 stretch standpoint that's not low you cannot have a behavioral isolation if you have five percent of
00:13:17.000 the time guys who think that they're in one group are actually raising the kids of people in the
00:13:21.120 quote-unquote rich group or upper class or whatever strategy so you have two strategies here one is a
00:13:28.980 strategy that is primarily focused on getting people to breed either because they couldn't figure out
00:13:35.860 contraception they couldn't prevent somebody from sleeping with them or they lacked the self-control
00:13:42.300 to not have sex when they didn't want to have kids and the other group is a group that is having lots of
00:13:47.100 kids because they have lots of resources and and there are obviously these two groups have almost
00:13:52.520 nothing in common in terms of what makes you successful within both of these strategies from a genetic
00:13:57.740 selection standpoint well child support which is a very interesting phenomenon because it is almost
00:14:02.820 universally implemented it is implemented literally like if there were a few or not a few but a good
00:14:08.460 chunk of countries that didn't do it like a third of the world that didn't like really egregiously and
00:14:12.620 effectively do child support where a large portion of this wealthy strategy were living it wouldn't be 0.85
00:14:20.120 effective because you'd still have the genetic drift between the two populations but it is really an all
00:14:25.900 encompassing thing and it is extremely punishing to anyone who was in the high wealth generation group
00:14:32.540 who ends up dallinging from people within their group they they suffer extreme penalties both to
00:14:40.940 their ability to secure partners within that group and their quality of life and they're often not going to
00:14:46.720 have that many more than like one child outside of that group now this causes problems when i first
00:14:52.960 mentioned this you're like well what about basketball players yeah like they're the classic example of
00:14:59.760 like you know wealthy people who are then obligated to pay child support who still end up seeming to do
00:15:06.300 it a lot yeah well i i would argue in this case that they're almost sort of the exception that proves the
00:15:12.680 rule limit you know sports stars are one not normally genetically optimized for this group um whereas this group
00:15:22.760 is typically optimized for industry right whereas sports stars have a an elite an elite in so far as
00:15:30.060 like their their genes it's their physical prowess that gets wealth and influence not their minds that's
00:15:36.420 what you're saying it's a different optimization function and it's an optimization function that can
00:15:41.320 arise i think at equal rates in both of the behavioral groups it can arise both accidentally was in the group
00:15:49.700 that is focused on the the the lower income group and the higher income group and so yeah this is a pass
00:15:58.620 for genetic transfer between the two groups but it's not a robust pass for genetic transfer between the
00:16:04.500 two groups because it's such a relatively rare and odd phenomenon and the sports stars that succumb to it
00:16:12.040 are typically those who came out of the lower income group by that what i mean is they're often those who
00:16:18.820 lack a level of self-control when you enter like a lot of sports these days like nba and stuff like
00:16:24.900 that they warn you like there's courses about how women will like invert condoms that you use how women 0.99
00:16:31.060 will try to trick you to get pregnant how women would it's a really i mean it's such a prodigious 1.00
00:16:37.120 problem that it's something that they put a lot of effort into training people to avoid yeah so people who
00:16:43.160 don't avoid it are i don't want to say like intentionally not avoiding it but they either
00:16:47.960 they were warned they were given fair warning you're saying self-control or the the future
00:16:53.600 planning abilities or they just don't care which is a problem but but it also means that you're also
00:16:58.640 then not dealing with because remember i said that people can enter this group of elite physical
00:17:04.300 specimens from either of the two communities but but the only communities that are really getting
00:17:10.020 tricked by this are the ones that enter it from the lower income community because the the other 0.70
00:17:15.500 cluster of genetic traits like low impulse control and stuff like that that's clustering was in that
00:17:20.280 community as a successful reproductive strategy and i should be clear around all of this i have
00:17:25.080 no animosity towards either of these groups i'm just pointing out a phenomenon these things are
00:17:30.080 genetically linked and these are two stable successful genetic strategies and i think that in in many ways
00:17:38.760 both of them can add to the betterment of our species but it is worth calling out that we are in and this
00:17:46.720 isn't a good group in a bad group like this is i want to be clear about that however one group is more
00:17:53.280 likely to be economically successful because that is the core thing that's differentiating them and that
00:17:59.340 is and also i should note that this isn't particularly ethnically clustered ethnicities exist uh no it seems to show up
00:18:06.840 across nations yeah but then are you implying that like the child support is on a broad societal level
00:18:15.760 something that you could say worsens class divides and income gaps because when you didn't have that
00:18:28.200 you would have like very very high agency very high intelligence high grit high hustle people
00:18:36.920 occasionally inserting genetic copies partial genetic copies of themselves into economic opportunity parts of the
00:18:46.440 population thereby giving those groups like an in to higher resources like is it yeah yeah well it was
00:18:57.540 it was preventing a level of genetic isolation and and i i should note and and to be realistic here
00:19:03.740 there are cultural differences between different ethnic communities that can lead to them being
00:19:10.140 more susceptible to certain practices so for example if you take the black community right like there is 0.98
00:19:17.160 definitely a lot of our black friends are like really educated really smart and they are not going to go out 1.00
00:19:24.380 sleeping with random women regardless of their ethnicity because they understand the cost of that to 0.97
00:19:29.440 them but they lack one avenue that our white friends have due to cultural pressures which is that the black 1.00
00:19:37.020 successful women we know that can't find a partner but still want to have kids white women will often 1.00
00:19:41.940 just you know use their gay friend sperm or something like that and then have kids and care for them as a 0.87
00:19:47.080 single mother whereas the stigma against black single mothers among black successful communities 0.99
00:19:52.180 is so strong that many of our black female friends who are
00:19:55.880 genetically like strongly in this like super successful super competent community are choosing
00:20:02.640 not to have kids and so i think that it's also important to think about the social pressures that you create
00:20:07.600 as a community and it's also something that i would encourage you know to our black successful female 0.63
00:20:12.200 audience i understand the stigma that's that that's that's facing you but you are doing a
00:20:17.180 disservice to your community by not having kids and i would encourage you to go out and do
00:20:21.340 that because i know there's a lot of you because we know a number of our black female friends who 0.77
00:20:26.300 really want to have kids but they just can't find a guy that is of their level and and and to be clear
00:20:31.980 this is also like a a huge problem if the community is is is monitoring status in different ways
00:20:39.200 whereas you know ultra competent individuals may if they're male may see different avenues than the
00:20:47.300 classic educational avenue that makes them look like good partners for these women um so maybe expand 1.00
00:20:53.940 your boundaries of what you think is acceptable yeah um not just by employer and university and income
00:21:00.640 level yeah well another thing i also noticed within this community is they're more height sensitive
00:21:05.920 than our white friends oh boy yeah which i feel like all women are way too height sensitive but yeah 1.00
00:21:11.960 yeah yeah all women are way too height sensitive but i would say that height sensitivity and partner 1.00
00:21:17.620 selection differs between cultures and cultures differ between ethnic groups and i are there any wait are
00:21:24.380 there any cultural groups with a female population that is cool with dating men shorter than them i mean
00:21:31.960 i will admit that like in modern society women are insane it's not like please at least match my height 1.00
00:21:36.860 or be a little bit taller but instead just be insanely tall no matter how short i am but
00:21:41.100 i have not noticed as much pickiness around it in hispanic and east asian populations
00:21:45.940 it's not that they have no care for it at all they care like like all humans do but they are not as
00:21:54.320 hard lying about it as but could that be because there are more likely to be income disparities between men
00:22:01.060 and women because the one thing that clearly makes height a no non-issue is a lot of wealth yeah actually i think 1.00
00:22:08.820 that that is what probably makes it the communities where you see height mattering the most for women 1.00
00:22:14.280 actually that's a really interesting phenomenon it's the communities where there is more income
00:22:18.580 equality between men and women because within both the black and the white communities there's no longer
00:22:23.660 income disparities that can make up for the shortness yeah yeah yeah they're much more likely to have
00:22:29.860 income inequality between genders and that's probably what explains the phenomenon 1.00
00:22:33.480 very clever simone i'm not taking credit for that well and there's even more equality within the elite
00:22:41.320 black communities i i noticed that like elite black women tend to slightly out earn elite black men 1.00
00:22:46.380 yeah at least in our anecdotal experience yeah this phenomenon yeah yeah okay i think that's also
00:22:53.760 because and this is like a weird institutional bug that may not last forever the elite black men that we
00:22:59.420 know are far more likely to themselves be entrepreneurs or pursuing very risky investment
00:23:04.040 political non-profit whatever ventures right like they're not they're not doing the thing that's going
00:23:10.660 to earn a lot of money and then the very successful black women that we know are far more likely 1.00
00:23:15.860 to be employed by a large corporation that is going to give them disproportionate value because not only are
00:23:21.700 they incredibly high caliber and smart but they also thank god are not a white male because they
00:23:27.080 desperately need to not hire white males anymore you know what i mean so they're going to be paid 0.98
00:23:30.980 a part of the damage the genetic damage that affirmative action is causing to the american 0.98
00:23:35.680 black community and that if you are an ultra competent ambitious black person you are much better off
00:23:42.200 going into bureaucratic roles than you are going into entrepreneurial roles because you have an
00:23:47.020 advantage within those roles due to affirmative action well and the affirmative action is also very
00:23:51.480 annoying because to a great extent these roles that are being offered i i don't see a whole
00:23:57.060 lot of opportunity and this is a complaint we constantly hear from these same high caliber
00:24:01.120 women that like they have been they've been welcomed into these institutions they are being paid 1.00
00:24:06.260 extremely generously and no one is listening to them oh yeah no no it's really interesting that
00:24:12.920 happens to people is this is weird little honey trap where they get up to a level within these
00:24:17.060 corporations you know whether it's you know google or cisco or whatever right where they now are
00:24:23.940 extremely powerful extremely well paid by society but not extremely powerful they're they're making
00:24:28.620 a lot of money and they're in a very prestigious high status but they cannot leave the job to do an
00:24:34.820 entrepreneurial pursuit because you know it would be such a cost to them given everything that they've
00:24:40.220 been afforded from this bureaucracy opportunity cost financially is too high yeah but they actually
00:24:45.640 have a floor preventing them from entering real leadership roles they can enter token leadership roles but not
00:24:52.020 real leadership roles because talk about a trap like that is so damaging like not so the only thing
00:24:57.540 that affirmative action is giving to some people in some cases and it's typically people who already
00:25:02.560 come from somewhat privileged backgrounds but happen to be the right yeah checkbox they're giving
00:25:08.720 some opportunities but they're not giving them power they're not giving them influence they're not
00:25:12.460 giving them satisfaction and they're not giving them high fertility culture so this is really bad
00:25:18.120 this is like a sticky mousetrap for for these communities it's it's it's horrifying and erasing
00:25:24.280 their best and brightest what on earth i i yeah i find it genuinely repulsive because these communities
00:25:31.460 produce some really interesting orthogonal thinkers who don't think like the communities that are often
00:25:37.600 most likely to go into you know entrepreneurship and stuff like that because it's it through orthogonal
00:25:42.620 thought that you can now compete with an entrepreneurship which is one of the reasons why
00:25:45.340 fourth generation immigrants do so well but i i wanted to end this particular topic with a shout
00:25:50.540 out for something one of our listeners is doing because one of our listeners reached out to us and we
00:25:55.380 always try to promote when they're working on something that's like aligned with our work
00:25:58.380 so this organization is if you wanted to report so i think that it was started with the motivation of like
00:26:05.580 really unfair things happening within family courts and stuff like that but but to quote him you know if you
00:26:11.240 want to report a woke teacher or school board member this is your opportunity to shine and every time
00:26:17.160 somebody googles their name they will live in infamy no more denials this will be our chance to shine
00:26:22.420 and and other people can give reviews to these individuals so basically once somebody does something
00:26:30.060 really egregious from like a woke perspective there isn't a good mechanism to snap back against them
00:26:37.500 right now was in the bureaucracy right there is no counterpoint to this there is no real punishment
00:26:44.040 for going overboard in terms of cultural imperialism which is what we see on the left right now the
00:26:51.680 belief that their culture is naturally superior to all other cultures and that everyone else is
00:26:56.840 basically just savages in their wake and must have their cultures erased and that they are only uplifting 0.97
00:27:03.320 the children by taking them from their families because that is always a great thing to think that
00:27:08.380 always makes you look good in the eyes of history but the name of his website if you want to check
00:27:12.820 this out and again i haven't really vetted this project that much but it sounded reasonable to me
00:27:17.180 okay is familylawaccountability.com and i'll put that on the screen here and i think that that's a
00:27:26.040 cool project and i wanted to talk about it was in this episode because i figured a lot of people who are
00:27:29.300 having trouble with child support systems and unfair courts and stuff like that might click
00:27:33.380 on an episode titled something around child support interesting cool thanks for sharing that i hadn't heard
00:27:40.780 of that yet yeah well it's a good project like i'm genuinely i'm like yeah that's that's pretty cool
00:27:47.460 you know he's not out here asking us to promote him or something fair let's be anyway i love you
00:27:55.040 and i'm so i found this episode pretty entertaining yeah i'm glad you explained this to me in greater
00:28:00.020 detail because i was obviously so confused when you first explained this to me because sometimes
00:28:04.360 thinking is really hard do you think that it could that it's actually a phenomenon that we're seeing
00:28:10.700 that didn't exist historically or do you think i'm i think that you can see levels of of even human
00:28:16.320 speciation historically not not in terms of like oh they can't interbreed anymore but like
00:28:20.800 to a certain extent i almost feel like there's been speciation culturally like even within
00:28:26.260 generations so there's not like a genetic incompatibility but we've reached a point at
00:28:30.560 which like some groups are now so culturally and like world view incompatible that they're almost
00:28:40.960 like different species like each of them will view the other like an animal that they cannot
00:28:45.240 comprehend and they cannot possibly have a soul because they're so different and they don't make 0.99
00:28:50.200 any sense and they cannot empathize with them and they will not see them as human and that really
00:28:54.440 scares me because when you get that level of a lack of ability to empathize or relate to other groups
00:29:01.320 that's when you start seeing atrocities that's when you start seeing violence and i i very much worry
00:29:06.780 about it so yeah i mean this is an important thing to think about and to keep an eye out for and
00:29:10.580 it's great to know some mechanisms that might make it worse yay i love you to death Simone and i'm
00:29:17.020 so fortunate that i don't need to worry about child support with you
00:29:20.240 yeah i think we're gonna be okay oh goodness all right bye