Based Camp - How Did We Phase Out Lobotomies？ (A Roadman for Gender Transition)

00:00:00.000 the lobotomite returns what insidious plan can it have brewing in its horrid mind 0.80

00:00:07.440 what commie anti-american propaganda will it spew hello simone today we're gonna be discussing an

00:00:16.680 interesting topic that's been nagging at the back of my brain for a while now oh say that i think

00:00:24.920 we are at a point in history now where basically everyone who is like super cute into the data

00:00:32.980 everyone who's super cute into the most modern studies the most modern statistics

00:00:36.860 where culture is flowing knows that the medical gender transition phenomenon and the child puberty

00:00:45.760 blocking phenomenon are both going to be seen as well mistakes in the way a lot of fads historically

00:00:54.000 in medicine were seen as mistakes the clue that is the holy guide to living pure this will help

00:00:58.960 explain first

00:01:00.740 oh yeah an oppressed minority you're a cult 1.00

00:01:11.120 there was a phenomenon of hypnosis and bringing back old memories where everyone was like oh this

00:01:21.020 is great this is so cool for a while then everyone was like oh we got a bunch of people

00:01:25.020 to accuse their parents of grapes that definitely didn't happen and now those parents have spent

00:01:30.000 their lives in jail and people have been permanently broken from their families and this was a horrible

00:01:35.020 thing how why did nobody call attention to this earlier this is this is recent this is like the

00:01:40.820 80s you know we yeah you know we this sort of stuff happens all the time but i think the most famous

00:01:46.120 instance of it happening is lobotomies right lobotomies were very popular even the kennedys did it if

00:01:52.700 that iteration of the kennedy family were around today would they not be the first in line to

00:01:57.560 transition their daughter and then came to realize oh this is actually horrifying and does not help the

00:02:06.020 people who were doing it to and just so people understand 20 000 people went through lobotomies at some

00:02:13.580 point yeah wasn't there one big proponent of it who would even lobotomize people on stage

00:02:17.960 well yeah the guy who who invented it the neurologist ergas moniz got the nobel prize for inventing it

00:02:25.560 no way he got the nobel prize people don't understand when they're like no lobotomies were never as

00:02:32.020 celebrated as gender transition is today oh no they definitely definitely were as celebrated as gender

00:02:37.000 transition this undermines my trust in the nobel well no here's the other interesting thing

00:02:43.260 a lot of people would be like well yeah but they're hugely different lobotomies weren't done

00:02:48.300 with consent actually lobotomies were almost never done without consent lobotomies were done with

00:02:55.000 informed consent really is is they were just very bad and informing the information is bad or the

00:03:02.920 delivery of the informed consent was bad the delivery of the so for example people would be like oh well

00:03:09.400 we know now from the leaks around the the w-path files for example that it's very common and the

00:03:15.560 doctors who are doing these procedures know that most people who are getting them do not understand

00:03:21.420 the consequences of them oh yeah like they're not aware of like um higher risk of osteoporosis you may

00:03:28.380 never have an orgasm like all these things they haven't been warned about like well they don't

00:03:32.100 understand functionally that they're going to be sterilized right a lot of people think it's just

00:03:36.180 probably reversible so some lines we have here an endocrinologist stated i know i'm talking to a

00:03:42.280 blank wall in private emails and another one pointed out that they knew that they were quote robbing

00:03:49.100 these kids of the sort of early to mid puberty sexual stuff that's happening with their cisgender

00:03:53.380 peers end quote and then in another instance where they thought that they could just transition back

00:03:58.720 and forth whenever they felt like it they said quote they seem to feel that there should be allowed to

00:04:04.920 switch back and forth merely at their request end quote showing that it was very clear they didn't

00:04:10.280 understand this was a permanent thing but more broadly and this is very clear from a lot of people

00:04:15.800 who you know hit like the age of 23 and are like i want to turn back it's simply neither communicated to

00:04:21.500 them that they can't just turn back whenever they want yeah or yeah yeah yeah you can just you're just

00:04:26.560 delaying you're just delaying nothing nothing bad is yeah you're right okay so the the problem is

00:04:32.160 there has been information given but the information is highly incomplete well and what's also been

00:04:38.080 shown is because there's been such a bubble around persecuting clinics that do gender transition if you

00:04:43.900 watch interviews with detransitioners about their incl like their indoctrination i guess you could say 1.00

00:04:49.840 interviews for the transition is the doctors will like tell them very little of what's actually

00:04:54.940 happening and just talk about how amazing it's going to be and everything like that when it's an

00:04:59.100 advanced and very invasive medical procedure that often ends with you know the the the new organs

00:05:06.240 undergoing necrosis and other forms of like yeah they genuinely begin to like rot on their body but

00:05:12.740 of course they would like this isn't like an easy thing to do um yeah the hearing hearing about the

00:05:20.260 complications from surgery and just the recovery like drainage ports and all sorts of like this is stuff

00:05:25.940 that if you heard it out of context you would think that they you know had just undergone like

00:05:31.440 major tumor removal or like some kind of like cancer yeah and i think a lot of people who casually

00:05:38.900 support gender transition today and are like oh you'd be more trans people if it was more you know

00:05:45.240 accepted by mainstream i think that they feel this way because they haven't actually investigated like

00:05:51.640 the actual what happens after gender transition what these surgeries are actually doing or what

00:05:58.220 people are being told before they go into these surgeries and that if they did what they would

00:06:03.060 realize is that a lot of this is about doctors that are trying to make a quick buck it's about

00:06:08.100 psychologists who are scared to say anything against the community because they're very aggressive

00:06:13.100 about this the horror and i think the thing that turned me the most against as i mentioned this in

00:06:17.920 another episode but it's really important to note this has never existed before in human history

00:06:23.800 i believed going into this because they're like oh two spirit and there's this thing in indonesia and

00:06:29.740 there's this thing here and then when i actually went into it i was like wait a second no these are

00:06:34.760 just different gender presentations nowhere in human history is there a sudden obsession with the gender

00:06:41.580 that you're seen as and the desire to conform to that gender um and they're like no uh actually

00:06:47.520 actually there is one culture that does castrate people who have this alternate gender um perception

00:06:53.980 and i'm like oh where is that oh it's this group in india that's mostly used for poor kids who are

00:06:59.800 kicked out of their family and need some a way to support themselves and so they go into sex work

00:07:03.860 that does not that sounds like calling as i mentioned like castranos these are people who were

00:07:10.420 castrated so they could continue to sing at a high pitch in early europe trans like it's it's clearly 0.88

00:07:15.020 not the same phenomenon and when i realized that like this is a phenomenon that has never existed

00:07:19.800 before in human history and has a 50 attempted unaliving oneself rate i was just like oh like this

00:07:25.960 is just obviously like a bad mimetic contagion that needs to be stopped or a lot of innocent people

00:07:31.860 are going to suffer but you're like no no i really feel it it's like yeah but like i've known

00:07:36.260 anorexic people and we also know that anorexic is the same category of a medic contagion what i mean

00:07:41.440 here is anorexia also appears to be a culturally driven disease and not a real one that we see in

00:07:47.640 history but that doesn't mean that people who have it don't 100 believe what they're saying and if you

00:07:54.940 could stop it from spreading like the idea the mimetic contagion from spreading of course you would

00:07:59.560 do everything you could to stop it but so then my question is like how is this going to end what

00:08:04.380 would it ending look like let's look at lobotomies a very analogous procedure so the last recorded

00:08:11.160 lobotomy in the united states was performed by dr walton freeman in february 1967 the procedure was

00:08:17.660 carried out on helen mortensen a longtime patient of hers and this was her third lobotomy she died

00:08:24.120 getting multiple lobotomies right so this was at her request and her third lobotomy this is very

00:08:31.940 similar when people are like oh people weren't like addicted to lobotomies oh yes they were

00:08:36.420 people are like oh like there's not trans people who think they can just like get the procedure

00:08:41.720 when they're like young and under eight which is what a lot of these people who don't understand

00:08:45.840 what they're going into from the w pass files and then transition back to the other gender no i mean 0.80

00:08:51.240 what is the detransition movement if not that you know in a big way we're like oh i transition i'm

00:08:55.840 transitioning back oh maybe i'll transition back later and it's it's seen in these emails that have

00:09:01.600 been leaked that a lot of people didn't understand you can't just transition transition back transition

00:09:06.140 transition back whenever you feel like it and that's where lobotomies had gotten to when they

00:09:10.700 ended up being banned as for when the lobotomy of the kennedy happened this happened in 1941 when she 0.71

00:09:18.760 was 23 years old the controversial procedure was arranged by her father joseph p kennedy senior was

00:09:25.180 out informing his wife until after it had been completed the procedure led to rosemary being permanently 0.99

00:09:31.060 incapacitated unable to speak intelligently and was the mental capacity of a toddler she lived in a

00:09:36.200 mental facility for the rest of her life 1.00

00:09:38.520 so why did the tide turn against lobotomies poor patient outcomes as more lobotomies were performed the

00:09:49.220 devastating side effects became increasingly apparent and i think that this is what we'll see with gender 1.00

00:09:53.960 transition as more people begin to speak publicly about the smell of rotting flesh that comes from their

00:09:59.500 genitals about the other because i this is the key problem with gender transition as it's observed by 0.90

00:10:06.600 the general public today is we are seeing it primarily from influencers in the euphoria phase

00:10:13.300 which is generally recorded as almost everyone has immediately after you transition even the people who

00:10:19.020 really regret it have a euphoria phase because the chemicals that you're taking create a euphoria phase

00:10:23.900 the you know if you're not used to taking loss of estrogen or loss of testosterone it will create a

00:10:29.540 phase of short-term euphoria for about like a year and a half period before the dread sets in second is that

00:10:38.300 the moment somebody you know i was recently at the heritage foundation gender research summit and talking

00:10:44.980 with a lot of g transitioners and they're like yeah i get threats on my life constantly for talking about 0.97

00:10:50.340 just like my lived experience right and that you're you're just not going to get this if you're doing

00:10:56.840 the opposite thing you know if you're out there celebrating this and then you have the final

00:11:00.780 problem which i think is the biggest problem with gender transition right now is a lot of the gender 1.00

00:11:05.760 transition stars are using filters and so the general public doesn't know what they really look like

00:11:12.460 they don't know how rare it is for somebody to actually pass

00:11:15.800 um and so they look at someone like dylan milvaney and if you look at for example if dylan milvaney

00:11:22.120 was out filters she looks like a guy she she looks very strange she does not look like a woman but if

00:11:30.080 you look at her with filters you're like oh that's a very normal looking woman and i think that a lot of 0.99

00:11:34.600 people don't realize how rare passing is and if they understood or internalized this this would be much

00:11:43.380 rarer than it is the other thing that happened was the development of anti-psychotic medications the

00:11:48.960 introduction of chlorazepine thorepine in the 1950s provided a safer non-invasive alternative for

00:11:56.180 treating mental illness and fortunately we already know that for gender dysphoria anti-psychotics 0.76

00:12:02.380 actually work they're incredibly effective at dealing with it we're just not allowed to talk about

00:12:06.380 this yet but i think as people begin to understand just how high the rates of genuine regret are when

00:12:13.240 you're not being tormented and terrified by your community this is going to become more common

00:12:17.600 especially among people who are pressured into doing this when they're kids and as we know from

00:12:21.540 the study gender what is it gender discontentedness and non-conforming youth uh over nine out of ten of

00:12:29.820 the 11 year olds who want to transition do not want to like are perfectly happy with their birth gender 0.85

00:12:35.800 by the age of 23 and we also know now that a hormone like the puberty blockers that they take

00:12:43.480 they have a significant effect on iq we've seen this in animal models it's about a one standard

00:12:47.740 deviation decline you can't just like stop somebody's mental development like of course

00:12:51.920 anyone should have known that i think that the trans community is acting in bad faith can be seen by 0.63

00:12:57.920 the types of arguments they use like one of the things that they'll frequently say is oh puberty

00:13:02.320 blockers have been used forever in young people and lots of studies have been done it's like yes

00:13:07.280 they've been used forever in delaying precocious puberty that's puberty happening outside of the

00:13:12.460 correct developmental frame of course if somebody is developing with the correct developmental frame

00:13:19.200 however you achieve that with puberty blockers or without they will have normal and correct mental

00:13:24.960 development if you disrupt that frame by either allowing them to happen too early or too late you are

00:13:31.780 going to get abnormal mental development because a lot of mental development happens cued to those

00:13:38.980 hormones and they have a significant effect on most people who get them are infernal and this has even

00:13:44.840 been leaked in the emails that have been claimed through foyer requests now that the doctors who are

00:13:49.140 giving them know that they're functionally sterilizing people but they're just like yeah but it's not that

00:13:53.700 big a deal and we're getting paid for this and i want to support this and blah blah blah but a lot of this

00:13:58.740 is being um covered up uh is just how bad this stuff is or i mean one of the things that always got me

00:14:05.640 the most was the travestock files when they were released and it turned out that travestock knew

00:14:09.520 that um putting someone on puberty blockers increased suedicidality um but they were covering that up

00:14:15.760 so yeah not great all around like the data is super super super super super against this at this point

00:14:21.780 to anyone who's looking at it from like not a brainwashed perspective and we we've drawn the correlation

00:14:26.900 between this and anorexia before and you know knowing people was anorexia in the past i understand

00:14:30.740 like if you bring an anorexic like data like you see you're unhealthy you see you're less attractive

00:14:35.260 they just won't listen to it it's very hard to get through when somebody develops this sort of

00:14:40.100 obsession around i was just fine until you all decided to teach me a lesson by scheming against me

00:14:45.120 now even my boss says i have a weight problem you do have a weight problem but it's not that you're too 0.99

00:14:51.220 fat you keep thinking you're fat no matter how skinny you get that's ridiculous look at me 0.99

00:14:58.200 it's worse than we thought i know i'm a huge tub of lard no you aren't you're just suffering from 1.00

00:15:06.360 a delusional state oh i'm not delusional tell them zach bro don't listen to them stan there's no one

00:15:13.740 there who z-man this is francine my daughter hailey i know i know but she won't wear makeup 0.75

00:15:19.380 well so i want to understand what how do antipsychotics help with this is there

00:15:25.700 why they help my understanding is because it's a form of psychosis

00:15:32.460 i mean that's the truth of it like the the as we argued in the other video if you look it's

00:15:38.820 very similar to anorexia in a lot of the ways it presents it presents overwhelmingly in autistic

00:15:43.060 individuals it presents a similar race it doesn't appear in other cultures it appears to be a culture

00:15:47.760 about illness like belief in penis stealing or something like that and that the sort of obsession

00:15:53.000 that you would see in anorexia i would imagine is also pretty well dealt with by antipsychotics

00:15:57.400 where the moment you put someone's brain on this and you stop this sort of magical or obsessive

00:16:03.600 thinking i checked and yes antipsychotics have been used for the treatment of anorexia as well

00:16:09.160 it appears they're just very good at curing this type of delusional thinking keep in mind antipsychotics

00:16:14.080 they're hard drugs they do bad things to you but breaking somebody out of something that has a 50%

00:16:19.240 attempted on a living oneself rate like that's an easy choice that's an easy easy easy choice

00:16:25.360 yeah i wonder if antipsychotics have also been used to treat anorexia now i'm i'm gonna have to look

00:16:30.380 that up i'm quite curious yeah the other thing that led to them being right is is medical professionals

00:16:36.480 began to turn against it as early as 1941 you saw them so we're still looking at 20 to 30 years

00:16:42.280 before like the last procedure is performed but i think that that's where we're getting at now

00:16:46.560 it's 20 to 30 years before these procedures stop being performed and we understand the correct way

00:16:50.980 to deal is this is just be more accepting of gender non-conforming behavior and identities

00:16:55.560 instead of an obsession and giving a psychological license to an obsession around what gender you are

00:17:03.120 seen as which is the real weird thing i don't mind gender non-conformity i mind this thing that's

00:17:09.060 leading to all of these deaths there was ethical concerns an invasive and irreversible procedure

00:17:14.760 performed overwhelmingly on vulnerable populations like children and women oh wow that reminds me of 0.99

00:17:20.700 something the psychiatric survivors movement former patients begin to organize and speak against the

00:17:26.300 psychiatric treatments oh my god that that reminds me of something the soviet ban now this was really

00:17:33.360 big in 1950 the soviet ban lobotomy is declaring them contrary to the principles of humanity

00:17:37.680 i think that we'll see the uk for example has already began to move against this stuff with the oh what

00:17:44.200 was that big report that was done recently the cast review so we're already beginning to see

00:17:49.200 major developed countries that had been accepting of this move against it now then you had the james

00:17:55.820 watts event where somebody died horribly from this i think we're going to see this more and more

00:17:59.860 like the daughter who was taken from her mother this was a daughter in terms that she had transitioned

00:18:05.540 i think into a woman or maybe she transitioned to a man i don't remember but she was taken from her

00:18:09.320 mother because the mother said i do not support this and i think that this is bad for her and then

00:18:16.160 uh and keep in mind i don't know what her actual gender was or what her transgender was she was taken 1.00

00:18:20.560 to live was at a young age a foster family and if you don't know this by the the foster system now is

00:18:25.660 like really intense among you cannot be a foster parish if you don't gender affirm so a lot of people are

00:18:30.500 having to lie about this because you know most foster parents used to be like you know conservative

00:18:34.500 christians and so this is a huge problem for the industry at the moment you're not getting as many

00:18:38.160 foster parents as you used to get but anyway so the girl ended up going into the system it turned out

00:18:44.980 the mom was right she ended up wanting to go back she ended up going to the mom one last time or 0.99

00:18:52.060 having a talk with her so she ended up jumping in front of a train like the horror of this we are

00:18:58.240 already seeing you were just not informed of these stories because of the old system that was in

00:19:03.340 place but in multiple states like in new jersey right next to us if one of our kids begins to be

00:19:08.920 taken in by one of these grooming gangs they and they are grooming gangs they target autistic kids

00:19:13.820 it's genuinely really good grooming advice on april 4th 2023 postcard reveals he's in contact with

00:19:19.680 four minors age 9 to 13 i've so far sent it to four minors between the ages of 9 and 13 i hope it

00:19:25.920 encourages them to transition when the oncozone animation became a meme they got excited over

00:19:30.680 its virality among kids manadrain and orion also fantasized about getting kids on hormones orion

00:19:36.400 was the manager coercing him every step of the way this is apparent by how he talked about him to

00:19:40.900 others has he started hormones yet yes but not effectively i guess that's what you'd expect just

00:19:45.420 telling a retard to buy hormones they bought estrogen but no anti-androgen it would have been more fun if he 0.99

00:19:50.480 started hormone blockers at like 12 haha isn't that true for everyone don't worry i'll make him 0.65

00:19:55.300 into a good girl don't blow up our spot bro all t-slurs are like that if you can trust me around 1.00

00:20:00.160 your kid it'd be transphobic not to me with daycare tots to orion and many of his associates their

00:20:05.840 identity was little more than a political shield they like have lists like this kid looks susceptible

00:20:10.320 they will incept them with behavior that is alienating if you if you get a person to do something

00:20:16.000 that alienates them from mainstream society and their parents that is a key part of grooming like

00:20:20.640 to call this not grooming is just absurd at this point it is definitionally grooming if you incept

00:20:26.100 somebody with a behavior pattern that makes it so only people of your group will accept them so if

00:20:31.380 they get targeted by one of these grooming games in new jersey the state and the school has a mandate

00:20:36.520 to spend state money on lawyers to take that kid away from their parents and so as we begin to see more

00:20:42.940 and more of these horrific events happening we're gonna see more and more i think rollback of a lot

00:20:48.660 of this stuff because it's just so demonstrable at this point and it's one of these things that for a

00:20:53.180 long time like i was really scared to take this position and be like no this is like i i took it

00:20:58.580 like flirtingly but when i begin to actually meet with lots of detransitioners which i've met with a 1.00

00:21:03.840 lot more now i'm now like oh god like this is actual humans that this is being done to

00:21:08.640 um when i think also our larger stance on gender transition in general is that

00:21:16.960 it it's a the whole thing is a delusion like this concept that gender is something that is

00:21:24.040 important and people need to express and like take special actions to express is just a delusion we we

00:21:32.040 don't need to exercise it doesn't matter it doesn't matter you want to wear a dress wear a dress like

00:21:37.640 but you don't it's not a thing okay i don't care and the fact that society makes it a big deal

00:21:43.520 is this this mass delusion just like people having dancing sickness that we really need to drop because

00:21:51.020 it is clearly causing major problems and in throughout the past people have done gender 0.85

00:21:55.600 non-conforming things and it's just been like it's not a big deal and i always feel like we do gender

00:22:02.860 non-conforming things like i am for example more wigged out by killing like spiders and dealing

00:22:08.180 with the dead mice and the rat traps and killing our chickens when they need to be killed and someone's

00:22:12.360 like i don't even care like whatever like but she's not concerned with how she's gendered by other 1.00

00:22:17.800 people because of this for a while well okay well i'm going to suddenly start wearing pants or like

00:22:22.180 again i always point to louis the 14th the the king of france's brother i think it was the duke

00:22:28.880 deer longs or i'm obviously butchering next we don't do french here but like people absolutely

00:22:34.200 recognize the fact that he often dressed like a woman and that he had male lovers and i think one

00:22:39.380 person even like called him like the silliest woman i've ever met you know like people would but like 0.98

00:22:44.560 whatever like he did that and then he would kick ass on the battlefield and like it just sometimes 0.96

00:22:50.260 people just did play you know just did different things and it just didn't it just didn't matter that 0.70

00:22:56.680 much and we didn't have to make a big deal of it and i think that this is a really good example

00:23:00.900 because a lot of people are like oh christianity catholicism it doesn't allow different gender

00:23:06.180 presentations and it's like actually that's like not really discussed in the bible that much and here

00:23:11.360 we are talking about louis the 14th's brother like one of the heights of the catholic empire we'll note

00:23:18.700 here the old testament so some people consider the new testament sort of invalidating these rules

00:23:24.400 does have rules around gender presentation specifically deuteronomy 22 5 a woman shall 0.90

00:23:30.780 not wear anything that pertains to a man nor shall a man put on a woman's garment for all who do so are 0.99

00:23:36.380 an abomination to the lord your god however if you're just looking new testament forwards the only

00:23:42.940 line you really have to go on is corinthians 11 14 15 which states does not nature itself teach you

00:23:50.560 that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him but if a woman has long hair it is her glory

00:23:55.900 which seems like a fairly narrow statement there and what we are not saying here is that the genders

00:24:02.080 on average do not have different presentations what we are saying is that the vast majority of cultures

00:24:09.120 even christian cultures throughout history just didn't make a big deal about it when somebody didn't

00:24:14.620 fall neatly into one of those presentations and what is toxic about the current movement is an obsession

00:24:21.900 with people who have abnormal gender presentations and forcing them to conform to either a gender binary

00:24:31.200 or some sort of gender categorization scheme and the fact that we're making a big deal of it

00:24:36.740 is quite toxic and quite dangerous really obviously in the data psychologically harmful yeah yeah and so

00:24:44.660 the bigger issue is the gender obsession not making it a thing yeah making it a thing and that that is 0.99

00:24:50.540 that is worth and i wouldn't say it's just phlebotomies you can even actually see this playing out

00:24:56.400 somewhat in the the fillers issue and this is some a more niche thing online but i love following

00:25:03.800 youtube channels that comment heavily on like plastic surgery and the work people have had done

00:25:09.020 and you can absolutely see that there's this subset of people in society who are also having like body

00:25:16.900 dysphoria with regard to their faces and they just think that like more filler is what they need more

00:25:23.520 filler is better and you can see these people who now have these incredibly deformed faces because they 0.95

00:25:28.800 developed filler addictions and i i could see and it's almost it like it's there there are lots

00:25:33.720 things here that rhyme you know in informed consent and you know being like okay well i want more and

00:25:39.460 i want more and more is better and obviously bad things happening as a result of it and and a slow

00:25:45.420 backlash i think there are lots of instances in which these things become a big deal and there are

00:25:53.500 these shared societal delusions that can help contribute to that that make it important to people i think for

00:26:00.120 people who don't think that this is a big deal you know if you want to be shaken out of like keep in

00:26:04.520 mind there's regularly people who will be supported by the community who are like my four-year-old is it

00:26:09.340 needs to gender transition like mine also and there are people who are like my four four-year-old needs

00:26:14.500 botox and fillers like this thing happened there this is a phenomenon that is not we're not just

00:26:21.860 dunking on transness we're jumping but no no but hold on i want to i want to talk about like how

00:26:26.640 horrifying this is for example that there are women in hollywood today and like we know of high 1.00

00:26:31.720 profile cases of this and of course this is happening in non-high profile cases that are adopting kids

00:26:36.500 from africa bringing them to the united states then castrating them through like gender transition when 1.00

00:26:42.880 they're like 10 like that's kind of like racist in the most extreme way possible uh where they are

00:26:50.160 using them as like a human ornament to augment their own status within their communities like oh i need 0.99

00:26:56.600 my my little castrated african boy um no it's fucked up and these people need to be treated like monsters 1.00

00:27:05.460 because they're acting like monsters that's a crazy thing to do to take a little african child and 0.99

00:27:13.700 castrate well it's crazy to do this with any child i understand but like sometimes less monstrous if it's

00:27:21.240 your own kid to me now this actually happened really frequently with lobotomies as well where

00:27:25.800 like when people were getting divorces and stuff like one person would be the pro-lobotomy person and

00:27:29.640 one person would be the anti-lobotomy person and the pro-lobotomy person would get custody very

00:27:33.660 similar to what you have with trans stuff here now i want to talk about the core thing that we don't

00:27:38.540 have yet and that we are going to need to win this particular battle against these innocent people 1.00

00:27:44.140 being victimized right which is media representation that is what ended up killing lobotomies so we go

00:27:50.960 over the big portrayals of this you had sylvia plass novel the bell jar 1963 which depicted a lobotomized

00:27:58.220 woman as uh defeated and stripped of vitality then there was tennessee williams play suddenly last 0.86

00:28:05.140 summer 1958 which portrayed a lobotomy as a threat to vulnerable patients but the real thing that did

00:28:10.880 it was one flew over the cuckoys last 1975 which solidified the perception of psychosurgery as a tool

00:28:16.840 for controlling mentally ill patients and the film won five major academy awards and killing the best 1.00

00:28:21.860 picture i'd actually argue that the film probably did a net negative to society even if it got rid of

00:28:27.020 lobotomies because it ended the institute the asylums yeah where kennedy was like i'm gonna end 0.94

00:28:33.220 asylums and i'm gonna replace them with something better and more humane and he never replaced them 0.99

00:28:37.520 he just ended them and then we ended up with our current homeless population which is majority of

00:28:42.020 the people who used to be in asylums and caused a lot of negative externalities from that but yeah so i 0.71

00:28:48.680 guess if you hear all of this and you know now that like a most educated people see this as a social

00:28:54.220 phenomenon like i mentioned some people in our comments like trash scott alexander when we do

00:28:58.800 videos where we're doing them they're like well i trust you guys and like this other guy but i don't

00:29:02.240 trust scott alexander scott alexander a year ago so like before us said 80 percent of gender dysphoria

00:29:11.160 or of the trans phenomenon is likely a social thing similar to witch penis stealing and he did this in his 0.95

00:29:20.060 witch penis article it was hidden at the very end but he wrote this nonetheless uh he lives in an 0.98

00:29:24.840 environment where this is an incredibly dangerous thing to say he lives with friends where this is 0.98

00:29:28.520 an incredibly dangerous thing to say uh i and he did it before we did the amount of intellectual

00:29:34.900 integrity that takes is absolutely astounding and i think that history is going to really favor him

00:29:42.840 and and people like him who stood up against this early whereas the people who are continuing to do

00:29:49.800 this i mean the writing's already on the wall the pendulum is full in the other direction at this

00:29:54.100 point after all of the leaks we know that a lot of the studies that looked like this were good were

00:29:58.580 faked a lot of the clinics knew that this wasn't helping people a lot of them knew they were lying to

00:30:02.040 patients now the question is just when do you jump off the wagon like when do you say oh my god i need to

00:30:08.920 be on the right side of history on this particular issue and i don't know i don't know how you pressure

00:30:15.800 i guess the way you do that is you get people to look at the evidence because i think right now like

00:30:22.860 the evidence is so overwhelming it's not like even lobotomies like the evidence is like stronger

00:30:26.860 than lobotomies at this point like this is hurting people i mean lobotomies didn't have a 50

00:30:31.440 suicide rate you know this is clearly like not helping people but what are your thoughts broadly on this

00:30:37.760 i think it's going to be one of these things where in in some communities people will be shocked

00:30:43.360 to learn that this is still happening and others this will continue to happen for quite some time

00:30:47.760 and i think there's just going to be a very weird staccato downstepping from this and it's going it is

00:30:56.940 going to take some like i think in in many in many places this is just going to it's going to

00:31:01.760 evaporate and we're going to move on to whatever the next thing is and i really wonder what the next

00:31:06.700 thing i actually think i know exactly how this is going to play out this is a major future telling

00:31:11.640 okay i think a because i've heard the stories about how the doctors who do gender transition

00:31:18.500 essentially trick people into it by lying to them about the long-term effects and the consequences

00:31:22.280 okay i suspect a detransitioner is going to murder a gender transition doctor who tricked them into this 0.98

00:31:30.400 or a gender transition early psychiatrist who tricked them into this and it's going to really highlight

00:31:36.060 how predatory these practices are when the coverage ends up happening and i think that

00:31:41.280 that's going to lead to the media being like oh we need to take this seriously yeah i mean i just think

00:31:46.700 that that's that's the way this is going to play out what do you think is going to be the next

00:31:50.840 trans the next lobotomy the next addiction to fillers oh we were talking about it in another episode

00:31:57.240 where i was like oh this is definitely the next trans completely forgot what it was but yeah we had

00:32:02.580 mentioned it in another episode i was like oh this is really effed up that this is happening right now

00:32:06.560 i think one of the big scandals that's going to happen is going to be the psychiatrist industry

00:32:10.900 where we're going to learn that the modern psychiatrist today is basically a net damaging

00:32:17.800 thing to the individuals they're interacting with i can see that yeah yes yes both a heightening of the

00:32:23.380 issue like people doing more and more and more sessions with their therapists like multiple times a

00:32:31.260 week and then there being some kind of public reckoning with that of oh my gosh how is the fact

00:32:39.100 that i'm seeing more of my therapist correlating with less mental health crises yeah like oh america's

00:32:47.920 seeing you know therapists at a rate unprecedented and that seems to track directly with the rates of

00:32:54.120 mental health illness what's happening now you can see our video on like therapists we've done a lot

00:32:58.640 of videos on that one of the things i've learned recently is i've been listening to people who are

00:33:01.720 currently in the schools that are training our therapists and here's some examples of conversations

00:33:06.480 that have happened in those schools in one he was taught to treat it's called uncle tom syndrome

00:33:12.240 any african-american who doesn't believe that they're discriminated against you as a therapist are

00:33:17.320 supposed to see that as a mental illness and help ensure that they see themselves as more of a

00:33:23.040 victimized class before they leave your care how how is that a good thing then the other uh one that

00:33:30.100 i thought was crazy is they in their class on marriage counseling we're studying the ethical

00:33:34.880 slut this is a book on like you know polyamory and everything like that and this guy mentioned in

00:33:40.220 class he's like well and he thought this was a totally normal thing to mention i mean i think we need

00:33:45.040 to have a discussion about how i think monogamy might be better for some people and apparently this was

00:33:49.820 seen as a like a really hateful thing to say and that polyamory and getting over your jealousy of

00:33:57.120 your partner sleeping with other people is just a more evolved form of relationship and that the

00:34:01.840 default for marriage counselors should be working all marriages towards an open marriage that's that's 0.90

00:34:08.000 that's very brave new world there there are many conditioning sayings that exist in the aldous

00:34:13.720 hexley book brave new world like that have to actually it's very telling like among other things like

00:34:19.380 they are constantly taking medication called soma which i guess is kind of like xanax or like it's

00:34:26.280 just it keeps them calm they're like a soma in time saves nine or something like that like that's one of

00:34:31.160 them and then other things they have are like i'm so glad i'm not a beta like just to keep you really

00:34:35.520 glad you're so glad that you're not in some other class of society i'm in every like i'm so glad i'm

00:34:41.160 not an alpha i'm so glad i'm not a beta but then there's another one of i think the the saying was

00:34:47.920 like everyone belongs to everyone else and every time that someone started to get a little jealous

00:34:52.920 or attached it was like well that's that's a good sign that you need to start you know sleeping

00:34:57.360 around with other people or like letting that partner go a little more because everyone belongs

00:35:01.120 to everyone else and then well i love that that was that was treated as a dystopia but like that is

00:35:06.740 that is the world yeah well it is really interesting how many elements of that book show up in society

00:35:13.700 today like the massive use of sort of medication the the massive use of entertainment the the i guess

00:35:23.040 yeah the increase in in like non-monogamy there are elements of it though that of course are very

00:35:29.620 absent in in that we are encouraging like class discomfort and status anxiety and and everyone

00:35:37.060 wants to be an alpha which is you know not not causing a whole lot of happiness of course well

00:35:44.160 a really interesting thing i heard about psychologists recently because i was talking

00:35:47.420 with some people who are in the psychology profession is they were saying that when trump was elected

00:35:52.600 there was this big movement among psychologists to isolate themselves like because some psychologists

00:35:58.220 were like well it's not so bad that he's elected or like we need to learn to deal with this and all of

00:36:01.980 these people were like hard you think this would be good for their industry you know it's like well now

00:36:05.560 you got to see me more no no they all have like trunch derangement syndrome like they're living in 0.93

00:36:10.560 this alternate reality and so they would form in other words they're taking it as bad as their

00:36:15.800 patients are yes but no they they're literally experiencing like mental health episodes over just

00:36:22.320 reality and we can see that the psychological tools they have for dealing with reality are absolutely

00:36:27.660 terrible like they they do not have any tools other than indoctrination somebody the guy i was

00:36:34.560 listening to who's in the psychology school he's like it's not like they're teaching psychology

00:36:38.420 or good therapy practices and then on top of that they are teaching wokeism he's like it's wokeism

00:36:46.000 and complete fluff it's nothing but how do i yeah the answer is wokeism it's very much a cult at this

00:36:52.840 point of like yes and by the way you're like well then what do i do if i'm experiencing issues it's a

00:36:56.840 pragmatist guide to life we wrote it as an alternate psychology model lots of people have read it we've had

00:37:02.220 people tell us like multiple people have reached out like yeah i was considering suicide until i read

00:37:06.360 this book or yeah like we've had people with kids tell us this like it appears to be and i really mean

00:37:14.320 this we sell it for under a dollar on amazon okay it comes with a free audiobook if you if you can't

00:37:20.380 afford that or you don't want to pay it just email us and we'll send it to you we don't care we just

00:37:25.500 and the dollar that you do spend the 99 cents most of it goes to amazon because they're like

00:37:29.800 distribution fees and then like one penny that goes to us goes to the non-profit like don't even

00:37:35.720 worry about it right like we just want to help people because there aren't good other systems out

00:37:41.420 there right now

00:37:42.080 oh what do you think simone i am still curious to see what the next body dysmorphia driven trend is

00:37:53.820 maybe maybe it'll just go from fillers and anorexia and trans to like it something else

00:38:00.140 will be added like there's i can see it being therians being pretty big but i think the next 0.96

00:38:04.260 big scandal is going to be therapists yeah but i it's i i see maybe not so much lobotomies but

00:38:11.800 definitely gender transition specifically youth gender transition botox and fillers though we didn't

00:38:19.340 talk about that in this episode well i'm really just turning the keywords to get this demonetized

00:38:23.620 sorry right yeah i'll have to well no here's the thing that you often get with people who do gender

00:38:29.340 transition or support it still and like are not like i love it when they're like come on guys like 0.51

00:38:34.960 there's lots of people who do this and then say great things about it like 20 30 years later and i'm

00:38:41.140 like and there's lots of girls who were in the grooming gangs who ended up finding new women for the 1.00

00:38:46.180 grooming gangs they've been convicted of this you know there are lots of people who end up uh being

00:38:51.880 gang raped and then marrying those people there are lots of people like that doesn't mean anything

00:38:58.620 what we need to look at is the psychological health outcomes of these individuals and are they

00:39:04.080 pressuring people without full understanding of what they're signing up for into irreversible decisions

00:39:10.900 yeah i just i i i'm still curious as to what maybe people in the comments will have some ideas

00:39:15.780 because if someone had told me in high school that the new cutting or anorexia was going to be

00:39:19.760 gender transition i would i would be shocked it's like what what like why why why would

00:39:28.280 well i mentioned this in a joke i did at the libertarian conference and it got a big laugh out

00:39:34.320 of the room and this was when i still told them don't record this don't repeat this because i was

00:39:38.540 afraid to have anti-trans views as i said you know when i was a kid i was a hardcore goth

00:39:43.780 and i loved all of that stuff and i always wanted to rebel against authority and all the authorities

00:39:51.800 would tell me they go malcolm malcolm malcolm one day you'll be an old man and you'll think whatever

00:39:59.440 the young people are doing is is is shocking and insane and i always laughed at them ha ha ha you don't 1.00

00:40:08.180 know me i'll always be hip well god damn it if i didn't think that cutting off your dick was going 1.00

00:40:14.880 to become a trend 0.99

00:40:15.740 but the fortunate thing is for us like we really lucked into this is that i don't think we need to

00:40:24.440 worry about this with our kids it's very obvious in like five or six years like this is going to be

00:40:29.460 so in retrograde at that point that we even though we have like autistic kids i'm not worried about it

00:40:34.860 because i just i don't know malcolm look they're gonna be targeting them but i think they'll be

00:40:42.960 targeting them in a very ham-fisted way i think we already see the movement moving everyone can go

00:40:47.740 to the trans forums right now and see like the quote-unquote trans women like fantasizing about 1.00

00:40:54.820 like graping jk rowland's daughter like granddaughter and like how they're gonna grape all the turfs and

00:41:01.600 like so it just clearly comes the shark it clearly worked given he publicly fantasized about

00:41:06.580 assaulting women in bathrooms me when transphobic little girls ask me what i'm doing in the woman's 0.99

00:41:11.180 restroom when i'm obviously a woman the two fantasized about assaulting jk rowling's 0.95

00:41:16.280 grandchildren not letting t slurs get with your kids is transphobic someone should harry potter

00:41:21.320 woman's grandkids orion then goes on to call them turf meat it's it's too i hope you're gonna be 0.99

00:41:26.880 forced to suck your girl well no what i mean is it's very obvious that these aren't female fantasies 0.99

00:41:32.840 like these people are not acting or looking like females this is clearly like something else and 0.99

00:41:38.700 something really horrifying and and people are like oh no this is fringe people no it's not fringe

00:41:44.100 people alok minnan like just last year got a netflix deal and he's the one saying that everyone's

00:41:51.780 worried about like little girls in restrooms with trans women but what they don't know is little 0.94

00:41:57.280 girls are kinky too and that little girls fantasize about this stuff too and it's like whoa i thought 1.00

00:42:04.740 that i would get this person's platform that was a line crossed well okay encouraging we'll see we'll

00:42:13.040 see how this plays out this is one of those you making a prediction episodes and i love those because

00:42:17.440 then we can go back and see how it went i'm gonna go start your curry love you what am i having

00:42:22.620 tonight i can't remember the name of it what p-h-a-l-l it's a curry that was developed in

00:42:30.500 birmingham and it's considered the spiciest curry english english indian food

00:42:34.760 it's a minecraft man that octavian loves so much right touristy

00:42:45.440 oh yeah

00:42:49.620 with your bone and arrow is it a bone and arrow or a bow and arrow

00:42:59.740 it's a bone that comes with an arrow yeah are you sure it's not a bow

00:43:07.420 you want to open this one titan okay let's do it

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Based Camp - January 17, 2025

How Did We Phase Out Lobotomies？ (A Roadman for Gender Transition)

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