How Did We Phase Out Lobotomies？ (A Roadman for Gender Transition)
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In this episode, we discuss a topic that's been nagging at the back of my brain for a while now, and it's one that I've been pondering a lot: why is it that the medical gender transition and child puberty block phenomenon are both seen as mistakes in medicine? Why did nobody call attention to this earlier? And why are we so obsessed with the lobotomite returns?
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the lobotomite returns what insidious plan can it have brewing in its horrid mind
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what commie anti-american propaganda will it spew hello simone today we're gonna be discussing an
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interesting topic that's been nagging at the back of my brain for a while now oh say that i think
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we are at a point in history now where basically everyone who is like super cute into the data
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everyone who's super cute into the most modern studies the most modern statistics
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where culture is flowing knows that the medical gender transition phenomenon and the child puberty
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blocking phenomenon are both going to be seen as well mistakes in the way a lot of fads historically
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in medicine were seen as mistakes the clue that is the holy guide to living pure this will help
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there was a phenomenon of hypnosis and bringing back old memories where everyone was like oh this
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is great this is so cool for a while then everyone was like oh we got a bunch of people
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to accuse their parents of grapes that definitely didn't happen and now those parents have spent
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their lives in jail and people have been permanently broken from their families and this was a horrible
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thing how why did nobody call attention to this earlier this is this is recent this is like the
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80s you know we yeah you know we this sort of stuff happens all the time but i think the most famous
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instance of it happening is lobotomies right lobotomies were very popular even the kennedys did it if
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that iteration of the kennedy family were around today would they not be the first in line to
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transition their daughter and then came to realize oh this is actually horrifying and does not help the
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people who were doing it to and just so people understand 20 000 people went through lobotomies at some
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point yeah wasn't there one big proponent of it who would even lobotomize people on stage
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well yeah the guy who who invented it the neurologist ergas moniz got the nobel prize for inventing it
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no way he got the nobel prize people don't understand when they're like no lobotomies were never as
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celebrated as gender transition is today oh no they definitely definitely were as celebrated as gender
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transition this undermines my trust in the nobel well no here's the other interesting thing
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a lot of people would be like well yeah but they're hugely different lobotomies weren't done
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with consent actually lobotomies were almost never done without consent lobotomies were done with
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informed consent really is is they were just very bad and informing the information is bad or the
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delivery of the informed consent was bad the delivery of the so for example people would be like oh well
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we know now from the leaks around the the w-path files for example that it's very common and the
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doctors who are doing these procedures know that most people who are getting them do not understand
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the consequences of them oh yeah like they're not aware of like um higher risk of osteoporosis you may
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never have an orgasm like all these things they haven't been warned about like well they don't
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understand functionally that they're going to be sterilized right a lot of people think it's just
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probably reversible so some lines we have here an endocrinologist stated i know i'm talking to a
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blank wall in private emails and another one pointed out that they knew that they were quote robbing
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these kids of the sort of early to mid puberty sexual stuff that's happening with their cisgender
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peers end quote and then in another instance where they thought that they could just transition back
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and forth whenever they felt like it they said quote they seem to feel that there should be allowed to
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switch back and forth merely at their request end quote showing that it was very clear they didn't
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understand this was a permanent thing but more broadly and this is very clear from a lot of people
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who you know hit like the age of 23 and are like i want to turn back it's simply neither communicated to
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them that they can't just turn back whenever they want yeah or yeah yeah yeah you can just you're just
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delaying you're just delaying nothing nothing bad is yeah you're right okay so the the problem is
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there has been information given but the information is highly incomplete well and what's also been
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shown is because there's been such a bubble around persecuting clinics that do gender transition if you
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watch interviews with detransitioners about their incl like their indoctrination i guess you could say
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interviews for the transition is the doctors will like tell them very little of what's actually
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happening and just talk about how amazing it's going to be and everything like that when it's an
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advanced and very invasive medical procedure that often ends with you know the the the new organs
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undergoing necrosis and other forms of like yeah they genuinely begin to like rot on their body but
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of course they would like this isn't like an easy thing to do um yeah the hearing hearing about the
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complications from surgery and just the recovery like drainage ports and all sorts of like this is stuff
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that if you heard it out of context you would think that they you know had just undergone like
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major tumor removal or like some kind of like cancer yeah and i think a lot of people who casually
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support gender transition today and are like oh you'd be more trans people if it was more you know
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accepted by mainstream i think that they feel this way because they haven't actually investigated like
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the actual what happens after gender transition what these surgeries are actually doing or what
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people are being told before they go into these surgeries and that if they did what they would
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realize is that a lot of this is about doctors that are trying to make a quick buck it's about
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psychologists who are scared to say anything against the community because they're very aggressive
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about this the horror and i think the thing that turned me the most against as i mentioned this in
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another episode but it's really important to note this has never existed before in human history
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i believed going into this because they're like oh two spirit and there's this thing in indonesia and
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there's this thing here and then when i actually went into it i was like wait a second no these are
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just different gender presentations nowhere in human history is there a sudden obsession with the gender
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that you're seen as and the desire to conform to that gender um and they're like no uh actually
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actually there is one culture that does castrate people who have this alternate gender um perception
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and i'm like oh where is that oh it's this group in india that's mostly used for poor kids who are
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kicked out of their family and need some a way to support themselves and so they go into sex work
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that does not that sounds like calling as i mentioned like castranos these are people who were
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castrated so they could continue to sing at a high pitch in early europe trans like it's it's clearly
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not the same phenomenon and when i realized that like this is a phenomenon that has never existed
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before in human history and has a 50 attempted unaliving oneself rate i was just like oh like this
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is just obviously like a bad mimetic contagion that needs to be stopped or a lot of innocent people
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are going to suffer but you're like no no i really feel it it's like yeah but like i've known
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anorexic people and we also know that anorexic is the same category of a medic contagion what i mean
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here is anorexia also appears to be a culturally driven disease and not a real one that we see in
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history but that doesn't mean that people who have it don't 100 believe what they're saying and if you
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could stop it from spreading like the idea the mimetic contagion from spreading of course you would
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do everything you could to stop it but so then my question is like how is this going to end what
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would it ending look like let's look at lobotomies a very analogous procedure so the last recorded
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lobotomy in the united states was performed by dr walton freeman in february 1967 the procedure was
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carried out on helen mortensen a longtime patient of hers and this was her third lobotomy she died
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getting multiple lobotomies right so this was at her request and her third lobotomy this is very
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similar when people are like oh people weren't like addicted to lobotomies oh yes they were
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people are like oh like there's not trans people who think they can just like get the procedure
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when they're like young and under eight which is what a lot of these people who don't understand
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what they're going into from the w pass files and then transition back to the other gender no i mean
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what is the detransition movement if not that you know in a big way we're like oh i transition i'm
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transitioning back oh maybe i'll transition back later and it's it's seen in these emails that have
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been leaked that a lot of people didn't understand you can't just transition transition back transition
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transition back whenever you feel like it and that's where lobotomies had gotten to when they
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ended up being banned as for when the lobotomy of the kennedy happened this happened in 1941 when she
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was 23 years old the controversial procedure was arranged by her father joseph p kennedy senior was
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out informing his wife until after it had been completed the procedure led to rosemary being permanently
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incapacitated unable to speak intelligently and was the mental capacity of a toddler she lived in a
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so why did the tide turn against lobotomies poor patient outcomes as more lobotomies were performed the
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devastating side effects became increasingly apparent and i think that this is what we'll see with gender
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transition as more people begin to speak publicly about the smell of rotting flesh that comes from their
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genitals about the other because i this is the key problem with gender transition as it's observed by
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the general public today is we are seeing it primarily from influencers in the euphoria phase
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which is generally recorded as almost everyone has immediately after you transition even the people who
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really regret it have a euphoria phase because the chemicals that you're taking create a euphoria phase
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the you know if you're not used to taking loss of estrogen or loss of testosterone it will create a
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phase of short-term euphoria for about like a year and a half period before the dread sets in second is that
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the moment somebody you know i was recently at the heritage foundation gender research summit and talking
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with a lot of g transitioners and they're like yeah i get threats on my life constantly for talking about
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just like my lived experience right and that you're you're just not going to get this if you're doing
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the opposite thing you know if you're out there celebrating this and then you have the final
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problem which i think is the biggest problem with gender transition right now is a lot of the gender
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transition stars are using filters and so the general public doesn't know what they really look like
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they don't know how rare it is for somebody to actually pass
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um and so they look at someone like dylan milvaney and if you look at for example if dylan milvaney
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was out filters she looks like a guy she she looks very strange she does not look like a woman but if
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you look at her with filters you're like oh that's a very normal looking woman and i think that a lot of
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people don't realize how rare passing is and if they understood or internalized this this would be much
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rarer than it is the other thing that happened was the development of anti-psychotic medications the
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introduction of chlorazepine thorepine in the 1950s provided a safer non-invasive alternative for
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treating mental illness and fortunately we already know that for gender dysphoria anti-psychotics
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actually work they're incredibly effective at dealing with it we're just not allowed to talk about
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this yet but i think as people begin to understand just how high the rates of genuine regret are when
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you're not being tormented and terrified by your community this is going to become more common
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especially among people who are pressured into doing this when they're kids and as we know from
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the study gender what is it gender discontentedness and non-conforming youth uh over nine out of ten of
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the 11 year olds who want to transition do not want to like are perfectly happy with their birth gender
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by the age of 23 and we also know now that a hormone like the puberty blockers that they take
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they have a significant effect on iq we've seen this in animal models it's about a one standard
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deviation decline you can't just like stop somebody's mental development like of course
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anyone should have known that i think that the trans community is acting in bad faith can be seen by
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the types of arguments they use like one of the things that they'll frequently say is oh puberty
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blockers have been used forever in young people and lots of studies have been done it's like yes
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they've been used forever in delaying precocious puberty that's puberty happening outside of the
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correct developmental frame of course if somebody is developing with the correct developmental frame
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however you achieve that with puberty blockers or without they will have normal and correct mental
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development if you disrupt that frame by either allowing them to happen too early or too late you are
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going to get abnormal mental development because a lot of mental development happens cued to those
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hormones and they have a significant effect on most people who get them are infernal and this has even
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been leaked in the emails that have been claimed through foyer requests now that the doctors who are
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giving them know that they're functionally sterilizing people but they're just like yeah but it's not that
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big a deal and we're getting paid for this and i want to support this and blah blah blah but a lot of this
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is being um covered up uh is just how bad this stuff is or i mean one of the things that always got me
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the most was the travestock files when they were released and it turned out that travestock knew
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that um putting someone on puberty blockers increased suedicidality um but they were covering that up
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so yeah not great all around like the data is super super super super super against this at this point
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to anyone who's looking at it from like not a brainwashed perspective and we we've drawn the correlation
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between this and anorexia before and you know knowing people was anorexia in the past i understand
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like if you bring an anorexic like data like you see you're unhealthy you see you're less attractive
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they just won't listen to it it's very hard to get through when somebody develops this sort of
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obsession around i was just fine until you all decided to teach me a lesson by scheming against me
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now even my boss says i have a weight problem you do have a weight problem but it's not that you're too
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fat you keep thinking you're fat no matter how skinny you get that's ridiculous look at me
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it's worse than we thought i know i'm a huge tub of lard no you aren't you're just suffering from
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a delusional state oh i'm not delusional tell them zach bro don't listen to them stan there's no one
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there who z-man this is francine my daughter hailey i know i know but she won't wear makeup
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well so i want to understand what how do antipsychotics help with this is there
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why they help my understanding is because it's a form of psychosis
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i mean that's the truth of it like the the as we argued in the other video if you look it's
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very similar to anorexia in a lot of the ways it presents it presents overwhelmingly in autistic
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individuals it presents a similar race it doesn't appear in other cultures it appears to be a culture
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about illness like belief in penis stealing or something like that and that the sort of obsession
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that you would see in anorexia i would imagine is also pretty well dealt with by antipsychotics
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where the moment you put someone's brain on this and you stop this sort of magical or obsessive
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thinking i checked and yes antipsychotics have been used for the treatment of anorexia as well
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it appears they're just very good at curing this type of delusional thinking keep in mind antipsychotics
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they're hard drugs they do bad things to you but breaking somebody out of something that has a 50%
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attempted on a living oneself rate like that's an easy choice that's an easy easy easy choice
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yeah i wonder if antipsychotics have also been used to treat anorexia now i'm i'm gonna have to look
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that up i'm quite curious yeah the other thing that led to them being right is is medical professionals
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began to turn against it as early as 1941 you saw them so we're still looking at 20 to 30 years
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before like the last procedure is performed but i think that that's where we're getting at now
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it's 20 to 30 years before these procedures stop being performed and we understand the correct way
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to deal is this is just be more accepting of gender non-conforming behavior and identities
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instead of an obsession and giving a psychological license to an obsession around what gender you are
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seen as which is the real weird thing i don't mind gender non-conformity i mind this thing that's
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leading to all of these deaths there was ethical concerns an invasive and irreversible procedure
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performed overwhelmingly on vulnerable populations like children and women oh wow that reminds me of
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something the psychiatric survivors movement former patients begin to organize and speak against the
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psychiatric treatments oh my god that that reminds me of something the soviet ban now this was really
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big in 1950 the soviet ban lobotomy is declaring them contrary to the principles of humanity
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i think that we'll see the uk for example has already began to move against this stuff with the oh what
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was that big report that was done recently the cast review so we're already beginning to see
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major developed countries that had been accepting of this move against it now then you had the james
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watts event where somebody died horribly from this i think we're going to see this more and more
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like the daughter who was taken from her mother this was a daughter in terms that she had transitioned
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i think into a woman or maybe she transitioned to a man i don't remember but she was taken from her
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mother because the mother said i do not support this and i think that this is bad for her and then
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uh and keep in mind i don't know what her actual gender was or what her transgender was she was taken
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to live was at a young age a foster family and if you don't know this by the the foster system now is
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like really intense among you cannot be a foster parish if you don't gender affirm so a lot of people are
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having to lie about this because you know most foster parents used to be like you know conservative
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christians and so this is a huge problem for the industry at the moment you're not getting as many
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foster parents as you used to get but anyway so the girl ended up going into the system it turned out
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the mom was right she ended up wanting to go back she ended up going to the mom one last time or
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having a talk with her so she ended up jumping in front of a train like the horror of this we are
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already seeing you were just not informed of these stories because of the old system that was in
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place but in multiple states like in new jersey right next to us if one of our kids begins to be
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taken in by one of these grooming gangs they and they are grooming gangs they target autistic kids
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it's genuinely really good grooming advice on april 4th 2023 postcard reveals he's in contact with
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four minors age 9 to 13 i've so far sent it to four minors between the ages of 9 and 13 i hope it
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encourages them to transition when the oncozone animation became a meme they got excited over
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its virality among kids manadrain and orion also fantasized about getting kids on hormones orion
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was the manager coercing him every step of the way this is apparent by how he talked about him to
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others has he started hormones yet yes but not effectively i guess that's what you'd expect just
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telling a retard to buy hormones they bought estrogen but no anti-androgen it would have been more fun if he
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started hormone blockers at like 12 haha isn't that true for everyone don't worry i'll make him
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into a good girl don't blow up our spot bro all t-slurs are like that if you can trust me around
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your kid it'd be transphobic not to me with daycare tots to orion and many of his associates their
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identity was little more than a political shield they like have lists like this kid looks susceptible
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they will incept them with behavior that is alienating if you if you get a person to do something
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that alienates them from mainstream society and their parents that is a key part of grooming like
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to call this not grooming is just absurd at this point it is definitionally grooming if you incept
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somebody with a behavior pattern that makes it so only people of your group will accept them so if
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they get targeted by one of these grooming games in new jersey the state and the school has a mandate
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to spend state money on lawyers to take that kid away from their parents and so as we begin to see more
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and more of these horrific events happening we're gonna see more and more i think rollback of a lot
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of this stuff because it's just so demonstrable at this point and it's one of these things that for a
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long time like i was really scared to take this position and be like no this is like i i took it
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like flirtingly but when i begin to actually meet with lots of detransitioners which i've met with a
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lot more now i'm now like oh god like this is actual humans that this is being done to
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um when i think also our larger stance on gender transition in general is that
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it it's a the whole thing is a delusion like this concept that gender is something that is
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important and people need to express and like take special actions to express is just a delusion we we
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don't need to exercise it doesn't matter it doesn't matter you want to wear a dress wear a dress like
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but you don't it's not a thing okay i don't care and the fact that society makes it a big deal
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is this this mass delusion just like people having dancing sickness that we really need to drop because
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it is clearly causing major problems and in throughout the past people have done gender
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non-conforming things and it's just been like it's not a big deal and i always feel like we do gender
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non-conforming things like i am for example more wigged out by killing like spiders and dealing
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with the dead mice and the rat traps and killing our chickens when they need to be killed and someone's
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like i don't even care like whatever like but she's not concerned with how she's gendered by other
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people because of this for a while well okay well i'm going to suddenly start wearing pants or like
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again i always point to louis the 14th the the king of france's brother i think it was the duke
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deer longs or i'm obviously butchering next we don't do french here but like people absolutely
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recognize the fact that he often dressed like a woman and that he had male lovers and i think one
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person even like called him like the silliest woman i've ever met you know like people would but like
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whatever like he did that and then he would kick ass on the battlefield and like it just sometimes
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people just did play you know just did different things and it just didn't it just didn't matter that
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much and we didn't have to make a big deal of it and i think that this is a really good example
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because a lot of people are like oh christianity catholicism it doesn't allow different gender
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presentations and it's like actually that's like not really discussed in the bible that much and here
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we are talking about louis the 14th's brother like one of the heights of the catholic empire we'll note
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here the old testament so some people consider the new testament sort of invalidating these rules
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does have rules around gender presentation specifically deuteronomy 22 5 a woman shall
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not wear anything that pertains to a man nor shall a man put on a woman's garment for all who do so are
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an abomination to the lord your god however if you're just looking new testament forwards the only
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line you really have to go on is corinthians 11 14 15 which states does not nature itself teach you
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that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him but if a woman has long hair it is her glory
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which seems like a fairly narrow statement there and what we are not saying here is that the genders
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on average do not have different presentations what we are saying is that the vast majority of cultures
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even christian cultures throughout history just didn't make a big deal about it when somebody didn't
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fall neatly into one of those presentations and what is toxic about the current movement is an obsession
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with people who have abnormal gender presentations and forcing them to conform to either a gender binary
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or some sort of gender categorization scheme and the fact that we're making a big deal of it
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is quite toxic and quite dangerous really obviously in the data psychologically harmful yeah yeah and so
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the bigger issue is the gender obsession not making it a thing yeah making it a thing and that that is
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that is worth and i wouldn't say it's just phlebotomies you can even actually see this playing out
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somewhat in the the fillers issue and this is some a more niche thing online but i love following
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youtube channels that comment heavily on like plastic surgery and the work people have had done
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and you can absolutely see that there's this subset of people in society who are also having like body
00:25:16.900
dysphoria with regard to their faces and they just think that like more filler is what they need more
00:25:23.520
filler is better and you can see these people who now have these incredibly deformed faces because they
00:25:28.800
developed filler addictions and i i could see and it's almost it like it's there there are lots
00:25:33.720
things here that rhyme you know in informed consent and you know being like okay well i want more and
00:25:39.460
i want more and more is better and obviously bad things happening as a result of it and and a slow
00:25:45.420
backlash i think there are lots of instances in which these things become a big deal and there are
00:25:53.500
these shared societal delusions that can help contribute to that that make it important to people i think for
00:26:00.120
people who don't think that this is a big deal you know if you want to be shaken out of like keep in
00:26:04.520
mind there's regularly people who will be supported by the community who are like my four-year-old is it
00:26:09.340
needs to gender transition like mine also and there are people who are like my four four-year-old needs
00:26:14.500
botox and fillers like this thing happened there this is a phenomenon that is not we're not just
00:26:21.860
dunking on transness we're jumping but no no but hold on i want to i want to talk about like how
00:26:26.640
horrifying this is for example that there are women in hollywood today and like we know of high
00:26:31.720
profile cases of this and of course this is happening in non-high profile cases that are adopting kids
00:26:36.500
from africa bringing them to the united states then castrating them through like gender transition when
00:26:42.880
they're like 10 like that's kind of like racist in the most extreme way possible uh where they are
00:26:50.160
using them as like a human ornament to augment their own status within their communities like oh i need
00:26:56.600
my my little castrated african boy um no it's fucked up and these people need to be treated like monsters
00:27:05.460
because they're acting like monsters that's a crazy thing to do to take a little african child and
00:27:13.700
castrate well it's crazy to do this with any child i understand but like sometimes less monstrous if it's
00:27:21.240
your own kid to me now this actually happened really frequently with lobotomies as well where
00:27:25.800
like when people were getting divorces and stuff like one person would be the pro-lobotomy person and
00:27:29.640
one person would be the anti-lobotomy person and the pro-lobotomy person would get custody very
00:27:33.660
similar to what you have with trans stuff here now i want to talk about the core thing that we don't
00:27:38.540
have yet and that we are going to need to win this particular battle against these innocent people
00:27:44.140
being victimized right which is media representation that is what ended up killing lobotomies so we go
00:27:50.960
over the big portrayals of this you had sylvia plass novel the bell jar 1963 which depicted a lobotomized
00:27:58.220
woman as uh defeated and stripped of vitality then there was tennessee williams play suddenly last
00:28:05.140
summer 1958 which portrayed a lobotomy as a threat to vulnerable patients but the real thing that did
00:28:10.880
it was one flew over the cuckoys last 1975 which solidified the perception of psychosurgery as a tool
00:28:16.840
for controlling mentally ill patients and the film won five major academy awards and killing the best
00:28:21.860
picture i'd actually argue that the film probably did a net negative to society even if it got rid of
00:28:27.020
lobotomies because it ended the institute the asylums yeah where kennedy was like i'm gonna end
00:28:33.220
asylums and i'm gonna replace them with something better and more humane and he never replaced them
00:28:37.520
he just ended them and then we ended up with our current homeless population which is majority of
00:28:42.020
the people who used to be in asylums and caused a lot of negative externalities from that but yeah so i
00:28:48.680
guess if you hear all of this and you know now that like a most educated people see this as a social
00:28:54.220
phenomenon like i mentioned some people in our comments like trash scott alexander when we do
00:28:58.800
videos where we're doing them they're like well i trust you guys and like this other guy but i don't
00:29:02.240
trust scott alexander scott alexander a year ago so like before us said 80 percent of gender dysphoria
00:29:11.160
or of the trans phenomenon is likely a social thing similar to witch penis stealing and he did this in his
00:29:20.060
witch penis article it was hidden at the very end but he wrote this nonetheless uh he lives in an
00:29:24.840
environment where this is an incredibly dangerous thing to say he lives with friends where this is
00:29:28.520
an incredibly dangerous thing to say uh i and he did it before we did the amount of intellectual
00:29:34.900
integrity that takes is absolutely astounding and i think that history is going to really favor him
00:29:42.840
and and people like him who stood up against this early whereas the people who are continuing to do
00:29:49.800
this i mean the writing's already on the wall the pendulum is full in the other direction at this
00:29:54.100
point after all of the leaks we know that a lot of the studies that looked like this were good were
00:29:58.580
faked a lot of the clinics knew that this wasn't helping people a lot of them knew they were lying to
00:30:02.040
patients now the question is just when do you jump off the wagon like when do you say oh my god i need to
00:30:08.920
be on the right side of history on this particular issue and i don't know i don't know how you pressure
00:30:15.800
i guess the way you do that is you get people to look at the evidence because i think right now like
00:30:22.860
the evidence is so overwhelming it's not like even lobotomies like the evidence is like stronger
00:30:26.860
than lobotomies at this point like this is hurting people i mean lobotomies didn't have a 50
00:30:31.440
suicide rate you know this is clearly like not helping people but what are your thoughts broadly on this
00:30:37.760
i think it's going to be one of these things where in in some communities people will be shocked
00:30:43.360
to learn that this is still happening and others this will continue to happen for quite some time
00:30:47.760
and i think there's just going to be a very weird staccato downstepping from this and it's going it is
00:30:56.940
going to take some like i think in in many in many places this is just going to it's going to
00:31:01.760
evaporate and we're going to move on to whatever the next thing is and i really wonder what the next
00:31:06.700
thing i actually think i know exactly how this is going to play out this is a major future telling
00:31:11.640
okay i think a because i've heard the stories about how the doctors who do gender transition
00:31:18.500
essentially trick people into it by lying to them about the long-term effects and the consequences
00:31:22.280
okay i suspect a detransitioner is going to murder a gender transition doctor who tricked them into this
00:31:30.400
or a gender transition early psychiatrist who tricked them into this and it's going to really highlight
00:31:36.060
how predatory these practices are when the coverage ends up happening and i think that
00:31:41.280
that's going to lead to the media being like oh we need to take this seriously yeah i mean i just think
00:31:46.700
that that's that's the way this is going to play out what do you think is going to be the next
00:31:50.840
trans the next lobotomy the next addiction to fillers oh we were talking about it in another episode
00:31:57.240
where i was like oh this is definitely the next trans completely forgot what it was but yeah we had
00:32:02.580
mentioned it in another episode i was like oh this is really effed up that this is happening right now
00:32:06.560
i think one of the big scandals that's going to happen is going to be the psychiatrist industry
00:32:10.900
where we're going to learn that the modern psychiatrist today is basically a net damaging
00:32:17.800
thing to the individuals they're interacting with i can see that yeah yes yes both a heightening of the
00:32:23.380
issue like people doing more and more and more sessions with their therapists like multiple times a
00:32:31.260
week and then there being some kind of public reckoning with that of oh my gosh how is the fact
00:32:39.100
that i'm seeing more of my therapist correlating with less mental health crises yeah like oh america's
00:32:47.920
seeing you know therapists at a rate unprecedented and that seems to track directly with the rates of
00:32:54.120
mental health illness what's happening now you can see our video on like therapists we've done a lot
00:32:58.640
of videos on that one of the things i've learned recently is i've been listening to people who are
00:33:01.720
currently in the schools that are training our therapists and here's some examples of conversations
00:33:06.480
that have happened in those schools in one he was taught to treat it's called uncle tom syndrome
00:33:12.240
any african-american who doesn't believe that they're discriminated against you as a therapist are
00:33:17.320
supposed to see that as a mental illness and help ensure that they see themselves as more of a
00:33:23.040
victimized class before they leave your care how how is that a good thing then the other uh one that
00:33:30.100
i thought was crazy is they in their class on marriage counseling we're studying the ethical
00:33:34.880
slut this is a book on like you know polyamory and everything like that and this guy mentioned in
00:33:40.220
class he's like well and he thought this was a totally normal thing to mention i mean i think we need
00:33:45.040
to have a discussion about how i think monogamy might be better for some people and apparently this was
00:33:49.820
seen as a like a really hateful thing to say and that polyamory and getting over your jealousy of
00:33:57.120
your partner sleeping with other people is just a more evolved form of relationship and that the
00:34:01.840
default for marriage counselors should be working all marriages towards an open marriage that's that's
00:34:08.000
that's very brave new world there there are many conditioning sayings that exist in the aldous
00:34:13.720
hexley book brave new world like that have to actually it's very telling like among other things like
00:34:19.380
they are constantly taking medication called soma which i guess is kind of like xanax or like it's
00:34:26.280
just it keeps them calm they're like a soma in time saves nine or something like that like that's one of
00:34:31.160
them and then other things they have are like i'm so glad i'm not a beta like just to keep you really
00:34:35.520
glad you're so glad that you're not in some other class of society i'm in every like i'm so glad i'm
00:34:41.160
not an alpha i'm so glad i'm not a beta but then there's another one of i think the the saying was
00:34:47.920
like everyone belongs to everyone else and every time that someone started to get a little jealous
00:34:52.920
or attached it was like well that's that's a good sign that you need to start you know sleeping
00:34:57.360
around with other people or like letting that partner go a little more because everyone belongs
00:35:01.120
to everyone else and then well i love that that was that was treated as a dystopia but like that is
00:35:06.740
that is the world yeah well it is really interesting how many elements of that book show up in society
00:35:13.700
today like the massive use of sort of medication the the massive use of entertainment the the i guess
00:35:23.040
yeah the increase in in like non-monogamy there are elements of it though that of course are very
00:35:29.620
absent in in that we are encouraging like class discomfort and status anxiety and and everyone
00:35:37.060
wants to be an alpha which is you know not not causing a whole lot of happiness of course well
00:35:44.160
a really interesting thing i heard about psychologists recently because i was talking
00:35:47.420
with some people who are in the psychology profession is they were saying that when trump was elected
00:35:52.600
there was this big movement among psychologists to isolate themselves like because some psychologists
00:35:58.220
were like well it's not so bad that he's elected or like we need to learn to deal with this and all of
00:36:01.980
these people were like hard you think this would be good for their industry you know it's like well now
00:36:05.560
you got to see me more no no they all have like trunch derangement syndrome like they're living in
00:36:10.560
this alternate reality and so they would form in other words they're taking it as bad as their
00:36:15.800
patients are yes but no they they're literally experiencing like mental health episodes over just
00:36:22.320
reality and we can see that the psychological tools they have for dealing with reality are absolutely
00:36:27.660
terrible like they they do not have any tools other than indoctrination somebody the guy i was
00:36:34.560
listening to who's in the psychology school he's like it's not like they're teaching psychology
00:36:38.420
or good therapy practices and then on top of that they are teaching wokeism he's like it's wokeism
00:36:46.000
and complete fluff it's nothing but how do i yeah the answer is wokeism it's very much a cult at this
00:36:52.840
point of like yes and by the way you're like well then what do i do if i'm experiencing issues it's a
00:36:56.840
pragmatist guide to life we wrote it as an alternate psychology model lots of people have read it we've had
00:37:02.220
people tell us like multiple people have reached out like yeah i was considering suicide until i read
00:37:06.360
this book or yeah like we've had people with kids tell us this like it appears to be and i really mean
00:37:14.320
this we sell it for under a dollar on amazon okay it comes with a free audiobook if you if you can't
00:37:20.380
afford that or you don't want to pay it just email us and we'll send it to you we don't care we just
00:37:25.500
and the dollar that you do spend the 99 cents most of it goes to amazon because they're like
00:37:29.800
distribution fees and then like one penny that goes to us goes to the non-profit like don't even
00:37:35.720
worry about it right like we just want to help people because there aren't good other systems out
00:37:42.080
oh what do you think simone i am still curious to see what the next body dysmorphia driven trend is
00:37:53.820
maybe maybe it'll just go from fillers and anorexia and trans to like it something else
00:38:00.140
will be added like there's i can see it being therians being pretty big but i think the next
00:38:04.260
big scandal is going to be therapists yeah but i it's i i see maybe not so much lobotomies but
00:38:11.800
definitely gender transition specifically youth gender transition botox and fillers though we didn't
00:38:19.340
talk about that in this episode well i'm really just turning the keywords to get this demonetized
00:38:23.620
sorry right yeah i'll have to well no here's the thing that you often get with people who do gender
00:38:29.340
transition or support it still and like are not like i love it when they're like come on guys like
00:38:34.960
there's lots of people who do this and then say great things about it like 20 30 years later and i'm
00:38:41.140
like and there's lots of girls who were in the grooming gangs who ended up finding new women for the
00:38:46.180
grooming gangs they've been convicted of this you know there are lots of people who end up uh being
00:38:51.880
gang raped and then marrying those people there are lots of people like that doesn't mean anything
00:38:58.620
what we need to look at is the psychological health outcomes of these individuals and are they
00:39:04.080
pressuring people without full understanding of what they're signing up for into irreversible decisions
00:39:10.900
yeah i just i i i'm still curious as to what maybe people in the comments will have some ideas
00:39:15.780
because if someone had told me in high school that the new cutting or anorexia was going to be
00:39:19.760
gender transition i would i would be shocked it's like what what like why why why would
00:39:28.280
well i mentioned this in a joke i did at the libertarian conference and it got a big laugh out
00:39:34.320
of the room and this was when i still told them don't record this don't repeat this because i was
00:39:38.540
afraid to have anti-trans views as i said you know when i was a kid i was a hardcore goth
00:39:43.780
and i loved all of that stuff and i always wanted to rebel against authority and all the authorities
00:39:51.800
would tell me they go malcolm malcolm malcolm one day you'll be an old man and you'll think whatever
00:39:59.440
the young people are doing is is is shocking and insane and i always laughed at them ha ha ha you don't
00:40:08.180
know me i'll always be hip well god damn it if i didn't think that cutting off your dick was going
00:40:15.740
but the fortunate thing is for us like we really lucked into this is that i don't think we need to
00:40:24.440
worry about this with our kids it's very obvious in like five or six years like this is going to be
00:40:29.460
so in retrograde at that point that we even though we have like autistic kids i'm not worried about it
00:40:34.860
because i just i don't know malcolm look they're gonna be targeting them but i think they'll be
00:40:42.960
targeting them in a very ham-fisted way i think we already see the movement moving everyone can go
00:40:47.740
to the trans forums right now and see like the quote-unquote trans women like fantasizing about
00:40:54.820
like graping jk rowland's daughter like granddaughter and like how they're gonna grape all the turfs and
00:41:01.600
like so it just clearly comes the shark it clearly worked given he publicly fantasized about
00:41:06.580
assaulting women in bathrooms me when transphobic little girls ask me what i'm doing in the woman's
00:41:11.180
restroom when i'm obviously a woman the two fantasized about assaulting jk rowling's
00:41:16.280
grandchildren not letting t slurs get with your kids is transphobic someone should harry potter
00:41:21.320
woman's grandkids orion then goes on to call them turf meat it's it's too i hope you're gonna be
00:41:26.880
forced to suck your girl well no what i mean is it's very obvious that these aren't female fantasies
00:41:32.840
like these people are not acting or looking like females this is clearly like something else and
00:41:38.700
something really horrifying and and people are like oh no this is fringe people no it's not fringe
00:41:44.100
people alok minnan like just last year got a netflix deal and he's the one saying that everyone's
00:41:51.780
worried about like little girls in restrooms with trans women but what they don't know is little
00:41:57.280
girls are kinky too and that little girls fantasize about this stuff too and it's like whoa i thought
00:42:04.740
that i would get this person's platform that was a line crossed well okay encouraging we'll see we'll
00:42:13.040
see how this plays out this is one of those you making a prediction episodes and i love those because
00:42:17.440
then we can go back and see how it went i'm gonna go start your curry love you what am i having
00:42:22.620
tonight i can't remember the name of it what p-h-a-l-l it's a curry that was developed in
00:42:30.500
birmingham and it's considered the spiciest curry english english indian food
00:42:34.760
it's a minecraft man that octavian loves so much right touristy
00:42:49.620
with your bone and arrow is it a bone and arrow or a bow and arrow
00:42:59.740
it's a bone that comes with an arrow yeah are you sure it's not a bow
00:43:07.420
you want to open this one titan okay let's do it