How The ADL Became an Anti-Semitism Factory (This is the Fastest Cultural Shift of Our Lives)
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Summary
The rise of anti-Semitism and the inability to play the anti-semitic card, the racist card, and the homophobe card. The problem with the ADL redefining the term goyslop as a slur, and why it's actually a derogatory term.
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about one
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of the fastest cultural shifts i have maybe seen in my lifetime towards the inability to play
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whether it's the anti-semite card or the racist card or the homophobe card
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of that being a card that has value in our cultural landscape okay and a lot of this comes
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downstream of a recent ADL announcement. How recent? Are we talking like this year or just
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like yesterday? Oh, okay. Like it's blowing up on Twitter right now. People are clowning on it.
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So basically what the ADL decided to do is attempt to define goyslop, which is a term that a lot of
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people are using now for unhealthy food that is not good for you to eat and there's a fun video
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of like a sweet old jewish guy going around and showing like kosher foods and being like you got
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to eat this stuff and not this other stuff look at all the bad chemicals like you guys need to know
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this sentence to a friend who loves eating goyslap i wouldn't touch this stuff anything over two
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ingredients is goyslap nothing but chemicals but the adl came out and tried to define this as hate
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speech and we'll go into their statement we'll go into the history of goy everything like that
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but they tried to define it as hate speech and then you get people like shoe on head where one
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popular tweet said shoe on head claps back at the lda the adl referring to goy slop as a slur
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wait wait goy the hebrew word that refers to non-jews so you have your own little slur for us
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but we're bad for using it ourselves lmafo and you yeah that's like banning the n-word
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from rap right well no it's it's it's worse because it is a jewish slur yeah non-jews yeah
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and it is absolutely a derogatory word like you can say like you as a jew can try to define it
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as non-derogatory but if you're doing that you're just going to make people more anti-semitic
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because it looks like you're treating them like idiots and they're too stupid to be aware
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and i'm okay of you know like gringo right like i go to i go to mexico people call me a gringo
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right or gaijin or gaijin or don't care yeah most cultures have a derogatory word for people
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outside of that culture this isn't a jewish thing this isn't a problem endemic to judaism or
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something like that and to be clear here if you are jewish and regularly hear yiddish you would
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be very aware that there are multiple idioms that use the term goi in a derogatory matter.
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It is clearly a derogatory word. And again, it is normal for words to mean outsider to eventually
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become derogatory, even if they didn't originally have that connotation. Consider the word barbarian
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in ancient Greek that originally just meant outsider, but eventually came to mean a lot
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of derogatory context. And Jews will come out thinking we're idiots and say things like,
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well goy in the torah is used in a non-derogatory context to mean nation and it's like yeah back
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when it also referred to the nation of israel but since about 300 bc in talmudic writings which we
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all have access to by the way it's not just jews who get to read those it's been used in a negative
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context in the same way barbarian originally didn't have a negative context but eventually
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developed one that's fine don't treat us like idiots and i'm beginning to realize how much
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anti-semitism was kept down by the self-deprecating jewish comedian like we see in the original clip
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here with the guy actually talking about goyslop who's being honest and how much it is risen by
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the jewish karen and we just don't have that many self-deprecating jewish comedians anymore
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and a whole lot more jewish karens and the jewish karens seem to be completely unaware of american
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culture and how angry it makes americans to be told something that we obviously know isn't true
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like that goy in a modern context is not a derogatory term and if you are a jew who is
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unaware of this because i'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt maybe you are just unaware
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of this because you have no jewish friends but i have a lot of jewish friends i interact with the
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jewish community a lot i regularly see the term used in that way in fact if you read private
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communications of jews as people have done in the jeffrey epstein emails they see it used in that way
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regularly this is even known to jewish children there was a clip that i have here of a jewish
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kid talking to a non-jewish kid saying you don't know about my friends and family so you should
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actually shut the f up you think i'm going to act towards someone arrogant little swine white bitch
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who s talks israel knowing nothing about them shut up you goic c-word go defend terrorists
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laugh my ass off post your face then you're effing embarrassing take your shishka this is another
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jewish slur for non-jewish women that is way more derogatory than goy but it's used interchangeably
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go defend the terrorists like a good little western goy girl and then he says goy fake
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profile but the point being here is it's used interchangeably with words like the c word or
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shishka or you know any of these other words and and we see this in plenty of videos again if you
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are unaware that this term is used in a derogatory fashion and you are jewish go like research it i
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And when you point out that at one point in history it wasn't derogatory,
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that has the same energy as a person claiming the N-word isn't derogatory,
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because just look at how you say black in Latin languages.
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clearly it doesn't have or didn't originally have a negative context and it's like bro that
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that doesn't um help your case at all that makes you look insane and dramatically worse the fact
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that a word wasn't always negative doesn't mean it's not negative in the current context
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and in the same voice the fact that even at the height of the n-word's use it was
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majoritively used just as a descriptor for black people not with malice intended that doesn't mean
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that it was not a slur and that is true by the way during the height like if you're looking at
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the slave trade and stuff like that when the n-word was used the most it was mostly just
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used as a descriptor that doesn't mean it wasn't pejorative as well essentially the way the
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defining of a slur works is not the majority use of a word because almost all slurs when they are
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made slurs their majority use is not necessarily derogatory but descriptive it's in the minority
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is the term used in a derogatory context and almost every word in every language for non-x
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that's not non-x becomes derogatory so like let's take christians for example there is no word for
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a non-christian other than just saying non-christian that doesn't have a derogatory context now
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whether it's heathen heretic pagan all of these within a christian mindset are gonna have a
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derogatory context and that's fine it's pretending that they don't that is what is freaking people
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out however to take that word and then say that other people can't use it themselves the groups
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that it is it would be as if uh when you said it would be like banning the n-word it would be like
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whites were still allowed to use the oh my god yeah okay yeah that's way worse dear black people
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you are no longer allowed to use it like don't you know the history of that word black people
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it might make white people look bad i mean of course we still use it regularly and with impunity
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but we don't want other people reminded of that and this is coming down because we'll go over the
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reactions to this asma gold made another a big list of like other goy words that you can use
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because it's been taken and mixed culturally in many ways like goy beam i i think that's a
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hilarious name for the anti uh oh yes the goy beam yes yes yes air defense missile and because
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it's it's shooting down goy rockets right yeah that's good but the the wider thing that's so
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interesting to me about this before we go deeper into this is just recently i'm talking like a
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couple months ago because we did a piece on this the adl came out and they said
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oh how dare this guy because there was a youtuber who went to a uh orthodox jewish community uh that
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was known and is widely accepted to be have massive problems with welfare fraud talking
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about tyler olivera or yeah yeah okay and then they had him demonetized for doing a piece that
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was factually honest about a problem that everyone knows about and that would obviously be better
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addressed by dealing with the community that's doing this or distancing yourself from them but
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not attempting to defend the bad actor and that's what we talked about in that episode but when this
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happened there was a bit of a pushback online right like people were somewhat mad about it but
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there were still defenders it was still a two-sided conversation this time it hasn't been a two-sided
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conversation it sort of feels like collectively everyone is like what are you doing even a lot
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of Jews in the comments to the ADL or be like this organization is supposed to support Jews but it
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sure seems like they hate them because they're making us look terrible so I decided to run a
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sentiment analysis of this oh boy okay by the way even even the like ADL's own post got a community
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note yeah of course it did of course it did because it's this is insane right so the community
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note on the adl's own piece about this right is although it is in subject of much debate many jews
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and non-jews consider the word goy to be a hebrew slash yiddish slur for non-jews and not an
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inherently neutral word wikipedia also notes its use as a pejorative so i love that that that's
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the stage that we're at that this is getting community noted and people who know us broadly
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we're seen as broadly phileo-semitic i'm still even though israel and jews sometimes do stuff
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that annoys me i still think of all the groups i could ally with they're one of the strongest
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technologically and in terms of fertility rates and in terms of cultural similarities to my group
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so i i'm not like an anti-jewish person saying all of this right i'm like this doesn't seem to
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be working anymore and let's talk about that so sentiment analysis okay first let's go over what
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the post was they said goyslop is not quirky internet slang word worth normalizing it's an
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anti-semitic slur born from white supremacist hate built on a conspiracy that the jews
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deliberately harm non-jews at new york times should know better than to give this language
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a platform there is no excuse for the ignorance of those who use it hateful words carry their
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origins wherever they travel okay wait okay so because some people have recognized the use of
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the word goy as not being necessarily flattering to outsiders and then toyed with it basically like
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because other people recognize that some some jewish people are not so nice to outsiders
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that is that is they they hate jews therefore and because they make fun of it that that is that is
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hate right so like if oh what's it what's it better okay let's let's go back to like white
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supremacy so like if if if some black americans were like oh those white supremacists like really
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appear to hate white people or sorry black people and then they like made fun of them for doing that
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then it would be considered like anti-white hate for them to like be make make light of that and
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make jokes about it right yeah and i want to be clear here goy is not as derogatory a term
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for non-jews as the n-word is for black people clearly for sure yeah it's it's probably closer
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to a term like gaijin or gringo yeah gaijin or gringo is a good it's just a good outsider term
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you would say to a friend and it wouldn't have a negative effect on that friendship like it would
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be a laughable outsider term but it is negative right like and it's like noob and why shouldn't
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it be negative again every group has the right to think that they're better than other groups
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that's just what it is to have intergroup pride yeah but what you don't have is the right to
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prevent those groups from using the words you use pejoratively about them yeah but to continue here
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So you can get an idea of how strong the reaction has been.
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The sentiment analysis said 90% are opposed or against it.
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I'm calling it overreach, gaslighting, et cetera.
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Like it is clown town on the internet right now is this post.
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no i do i do not believe the reaction would have been this overwhelmingly negative what do you
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think changed iran the war in iran we're just like super mad at anything jewish because of israel
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war in iran actually yeah let's try to walk through what actually did change the war in iran
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i look i get that that's part of it but you had the the gaza situation was optically worse for
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israel and jewish people than the war in iran right iran was a unified enemy basically everyone
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in europe agreed that they needed to go everyone in europe agreed even during the initial bombings
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that this was a good idea oh yeah yeah yeah people were outraged by the protests you know up until
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the moment that action was taken iran something needs to be done and then something was done
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the moment something was done everyone was like what but it was israel's idea no yeah i love the
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pictures they have on of like comedians being like i don't get it like trump's out there saying
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that something needs to be done about what iran is doing to these protesters and he's like and he
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doesn't even go in and invade why doesn't he invade if he invades at least then i believe
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that's what bill burr who had this big speech about this at least then i believe you know that
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he was a man of integrity and doing what was right for the world he attacks immediately he's like how
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could he do this you know checks out many left his accounts but yeah no i don't think that that
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was it at all honestly i think it's more of changing cultural winds and it's more of a
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cultural realignment moving further up the chain of communication so it's been widely understood
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in like our circle of the online internet right that you you can't pull this sort of nonsense
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anymore like that's anti-semitic is just going to make people hate your group more if it's not
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genuinely anti-semitic right like that's whatever you do that's that's anti whatever group that's
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anti you know how could you say this that's hate right like these sorts of framings for a long time
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worked even even in our community even in the right there would there be politicians who'd be
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like trump can't say that that's a that's an offensive thing to say that these are are shitty
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countries or something like that that hate was a shitty country was what they were mad that he said
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now everyone agrees with Haiti being a shitty the moment he starts sending immigrant like
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deportees there they're like how dare you send deportees there it's a shitty country but when
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he said it was like oh how dare he but within our sort of smaller cultural sphere online this was
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understood then we had the the first ratchet which is the left turning on the Jews and turning
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really hard anti-israel and this happened collectively on the left you know i'd say
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maybe half a decade ago at this point right and it's been very normative within the leftist
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social world right like the their version of our podcast right if there there was like a mirror
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world podcast this has been normal on the left for a while to just dislike jews whoever dislikes
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jews the most they actually like at twitch con even like ranked people on like how much they
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hated jews oh for the love they had a thing where they did that like that was a fun thing to do at
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twitch is the give people rankings based on how much it's such a thing though that now people just
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can't shut up about israel what's up with this well you could say there's biblical reasons for
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that but ignoring those the well they do have disproportionate power they're the most successful
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subgroup on earth i mean anyone should be and they're decent fertility right like anyone should
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be paying attention to that sure yeah no i mean and then that's i mean ultimately we're feeling
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a semitic because we are very interested in whoever is competent and who has good operational
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skills and yes who is you know somebody asked me they go why do gay jews seem to run all the
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ai companies or be all the major donors in the ai companies and i was like i got theories on that
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but if you keep wondering fans keep wondering even if you're not gay or jewish and may disagree
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with them theologically on some areas do you still want to be in an alliance with them it's
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because they run all the ai companies being maniacs don't piss off the group that's enormously
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more powerful than you on the geopolitical stage but the the the gay jews running all the tech
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we'll talk about that at the end as well but what happened was is the left turned against them
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but the urban monoculture hadn't and i've been beginning to have a better understanding
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recently because i've been interacting with some people who are of the elite of the urban
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monoculture but not of the left these are the people who run the boring whatever podcast we
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were on some podcast it was like just generic the opinion of the elite right like the let's say the
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new york wife who just doesn't really want to pay attention to everything that's going on
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she's got a a job that's a high paying job at like a a private equity firm or something like
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that she's a little insulated from the news she's autopilot educated elite yes autopilot educated
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elite that's who actually runs the urban monoculture and to this group the autopilot
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educated elite it had yet to reach their ears which was very clear to me when i had a recent
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interaction with one of them that like the you're a racist line when somebody's just clowning around
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or making a joke or whatever doesn't work anymore and causes immediate pushback it still works
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within their message their their world when they're at a company meeting or let's say a
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convention of like mlm karens or something like that right like that that's sort of a person right
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when they're at their meetings and they're like can you believe he said goist like he needs to
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be kicked off the team right like he needs to be fired this was still a perfectly reasonable thing
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to say in their world and i think that this is an important for all of us to remember the elite of
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the urban monoculture are sort of elitist automatons who are quite downstream and isolated
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from the culture war and they are unaware of it and it sort of hits their door one day and they
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just go along with it after it does it's it's now the new normal because the sophisticated people
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who tell them what's true told them that this is true now and it actually i was talking to somebody
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recently they go why do you fight in the trenches of the internet and i go because the trenches of
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the internet determine what is culturally normative 10 years from now right the mainstream of maga
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today was born in the 4chan versus tumblr war right of 10 years ago the the what became mainstream
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on tumblr 10 years ago if you were a watcher of that all of the xeno pronouns and all of the
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extra focus on the trans issues and extra focus on the the you know respect my identity blah blah
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that was like real that battle wasn't a battle that the left even had like internally because
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they just accepted tumblr culture after the battle had already happened but this was considered the
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most degen part of the internet this was i mean the people who were having this battle spent half
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their time posting furry porn right like they were not or or were just if they were in the the 4chan
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side of them most of them ended up getting canceled or lost their jobs or were de-platformed before
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all this became normalized the battle that we're having is the next generation version of that
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battle but basically what we're seeing is the outcome of the battle drift upwards which is to
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say in the conservative community it became incredibly bad the community that's open to
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working with jews it became incredibly bad to say hey don't say that that's anti-semitic especially
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when something clearly isn't and then especially if it's just an internet joke right like when it
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comes to internet jokes that's where it gets like really bad and when it's an internet joke
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was like a side of truth to it disproportionately people in executive positions are of jewish
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heritage like that's something jews should have pride in that's not a an ethnic slur or anything
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like that and jews disproportionately as they should they have they have rules around trying
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to make the entire world a better place this is true within the jewish faith but they also have
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rules about preferencing the interests of their own people as which is not insane yeah come on
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and so when people see large companies disproportionately run by jewish individuals
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putting things into food that is bad for people that is explicitly non-kosher e.g. they couldn't
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even eat it themselves if they wanted to it makes them create this stereotype okay and and i think
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the noticing you could say noticing is a bad thing but that's really bad because as soon as you say
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noticing the whatever pattern is a bad thing is a bad thing everybody immediately pays attention
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to it the moment you say not this isn't true but this is racist everybody today is like well hold
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on i better research that real quick so to go let's go over some of the memes here because i
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thought they were fantastic this just doesn't work anymore after the epstein email somebody says
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and keep in mind that did a lot to erode trust in the idea of there aren't secret cabals
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that are run by a guy who is at least nominally jewish he did seem to disproportionately care
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about the interests of the jews in israel and when we're like oh there are cabals doing that
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a lot of people are like oh well let's let's re-enter the conversation next most have photo
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comment is lma o o o o o then we have mcgold saying here are some additional horrible slurs
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that the same bigots online have been using hopefully you can use these to better combat
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anti-semitism none of these are funny and anyone laughing at them is a horrible person
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gold steak is fantastic so the words were goynip an exciting event or thing that keeps the attention
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of people who are considered goy goy slop a type of food or leisure activity that is indulgent and
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unhealthy goy beam a military action using particle weapons usually related to israel
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goy cattle worse than goy even dumber and even more servile goy caught definition pending i like
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that uh goy looping when a fat and or retarded person keeps saying the same thing over and over
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again and i like a goy looping because it's not even that one doesn't even have any sort of an
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undertone of anti-semitism it's just sort of talking about the masses not understanding what's
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really going on and then the next one here is we have a slur for a slur we use for all you nons but
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you're not allowed to say it or else it's hateful huh but uh yeah do you want to go into the history
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of the term goy so people can be like well because yeah you say so many things with uh
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judaism are incredibly new inventions how new is this very old it's in it's in the bible it actually
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what oh my gosh okay so this isn't new at all yeah but it initially did not have negative
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connotations and and note here to any jew who's like it's in the bible and it didn't have negative
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connotations there that doesn't mean it doesn't have negative connotations now and if you're
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pretending it doesn't you just make yourself look worse or like pathologically stupid or or
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pathologically like it's even worse if you as a jewish person go out there and say goy doesn't
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have negative connotations you create the impression that you are so pathologically blind
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in the way you see reality that when you see another group being discriminated against in
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favor of your group you are unable to see that it is discrimination that it is derogatory because
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you so thoroughly believe that you are deserving of a differentiated treatment if i had any other
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word for jew that i regularly use to mean jew jews would out okay you know i could just make up a word
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now for jew scuttlebutt if i just started calling the scuttlebutts out tomorrow everyone would say
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that's an anti-semitic because it's why not just say non-jew so anyway in the hebrew bible the
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person experiencing jewness yes like the person experiencing frenchness all that yes for any
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nation or ethnic group including the israelites or jews themselves examples include god promising
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to make abraham's descendants a goy gadol a great nation in genesis 12 2 are referring to the jewish
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people as a goy kadosh, the holy nation, in Exodus 19.6. Neutral descriptions for nations,
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and it appears hundreds of times, so we see it all over the place. But in the Hellenistic or
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Roman periods, roughly 300 BCE onwards, especially in the rabbinic or Talmudic literature from the
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1st or 2nd century CE, it is increasingly shifted to refer primarily to non-Jewish nations or
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individuals. The nations equal goyim, contrasting with Jews. Scholars like A.D. Ofer and Ishan
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razan z argue that a crystallized jew versus universal non-jew goi dichotomy emerged clearly
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in rabbinic texts influenced by interactions with hellenic culture rome and early christianity
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and keep in mind these groups were often killing each other in really violent and awful ways
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like if i'm gonna drag up old stuff that the mormons did that was bad let's drag up like
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the things that the jews did so there's a famous instance from josephus where he's recording of a
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jewish garrison that was attempting to put down a jewish rebellion and the jews said to the romans
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put down your weapons as the mormons did to the group before they killed them and we'll come in
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and it was much worse what the mormons did because it was like children and families and they beat
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them to death but whatever the when the jews did it i'm just showing i'm giving everyone equal
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treatment here they then went in and killed everyone but the commander who converted to
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judaism to prevent himself from getting killed a long story there this this was back when jews
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were more active in their proselytization and like okay you convert we won't kill you but but
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it seemed to be more proactive in his part and not like a threat on their part we're not we're
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not going to get into that but the point here being is jews had a great deal of enmity for the
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goy as this term was crystallized yiddish in modern yiddish borrowed into yiddish and then
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english from hebrew where it commonly means gentile or non-jew in everyday jewish speech
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especially asking out of yiddish influence contracts they say it is oftenly neutral like
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gentile however it can carry pejorative or condescending tones in phrases like goy sheep
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the the gentile head brain sorry it's go sheep cop or stupidity or dullness so basically in jew if
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you say to think like a goy okay like like a literal translation here you are saying somebody
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is stupid okay or you can have a kamish term here in in in yiddish dos ken nor a goy only a goy
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would do that okay well i think anyone who's proud of their culture saying that only an outsider would
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do that it is going to be derogatory but that is something you would expect like let's say you're
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really into like one sports team like you love the raiders and you're like well only this i'm so bad
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some only this other sports team would do that you know because it's it's derogatory or you're
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irish like well only a spaniard would do that you know it i just i don't see how that's bad
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that's normal yeah which is part of the problem is the the world has become a trash talk world
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and this is now moving further and further up the chain well the world has become an anti-trash
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talk world we're not allowed to trash talk anymore apparently well no the the elites of the urban
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monoculture were always anti-trash talk especially if it was used against i any group that could be
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perceived as a minority group or that had some within their their hierarchy of discrimination
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i think what the jews realize or what's happening is the jews within the urban monoculture
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completely fell outside the hierarchy of discrimination nobody cares about them in
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the hierarchy of discrimination world anymore even the elites have gotten that memo at this point
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which leaves the side that would still fend for them being the side that they offend by taking
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a position like this and it's it's bad like i don't i don't like i i look at this as as an
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like what how do i feel about this i guess even though i'm fairly phileo-semitic i am happy to
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see this pushback be as universal as it is you know because it feels like the faster we get to
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a place societally where even an organization even the urban elites who put something out like
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this from the ADL and are otherwise like very cloistered that they immediately get next time
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something like this comes up oh we can't do that anymore like we don't get to play this game
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anymore this game is over for us and that actually will help the jewish people more broadly because
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the longer it takes various jewish organizations to understand nobody's playing ball with this and
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it actually radicalizes people further against you to play the that's anti-semitic or goy isn't
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a derogatory term game the faster everybody is gonna freak out yeah and a note here i'd point
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out when i'm like what's the word for and this is what for the people who want to play the it's not
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anti it's not a derogatory word can you give me any word for a non-christian other than just
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saying non-christian like you could just say non-jew that doesn't carry derogatory connotations
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heathen i guess well heathens derogatory infidels derogatory yeah but that's the point i'm making
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any word that isn't just non-jew or non-christian is gonna carry derogatory even if it's the only
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word you have you can't be like oh it's the only word we have for non-jews no you have non-jew
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christians have not a christian doesn't need to call you a heathen if a christian called you a
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heathen you'd probably be a little offended by it yeah or an apostate or anything yeah
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heretic heretic yeah i guess you just call them an atheist or non-believer well non-believer
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doesn't sound good okay yeah defining what they are do you that's true yeah we don't know we don't
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know what they believe yeah it's just a normal thing to stop we all know like everybody knows
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right like you don't need to pretend we're not playing that game anymore we on the right
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are out here being like dude it's okay if you are a separate group than us okay it's okay if you think
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we want to favor our own people whatever right like everybody has a right to do that you can do
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that but you can't come out here and police one you can't be the fun police you can't be the offense
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police and you can't be the how dare you say the word like you make it known that we use the word
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in this way by the way does this sort of shock you in seeing this i'm a little shocked i'm
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genuinely shocked that this happened are you more strange the adl thought this was an okay thing to
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say are you more shocked yeah no no i i am shocked because at least historically i didn't realize
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just how effective the adl was until i saw more information about just how intense anti-semitism
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was in the past. Yeah. So I realized, wow, okay, actually the ADL has done an amazing job. And so
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what I'm also surprised of is here's this organization that has actually been pretty
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effective. They presumably would understand Streisand effects and where to choose your
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battles and the fact that they've made such a profound screw up with such a silly thing
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it makes them sound sanctimonious and like they're really trying to just impose
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on other groups in a way that's going to backfire like their goal should be
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to reduce anti-semitism as much as possible now they're contributing to it and that's that's
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dramatically so yeah bizarre to me not just because oh my gosh the outrage how could
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they do this, but actually because they have a long track record of being very effective at
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actually reducing antisemitism. So what's going on? Leadership must have changed in a very insane
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way. This is actually a great thing. The ADL has been so captured by urban monoculture rot
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at a bureaucratic level that it is now acting in ways that is actively antithetical to its mission
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of increasing pro-Jewish sentiment. It's trying to increase the dogmatic control of the urban
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monoculture without even realizing it right and it's playing into the urban monoculture's hand
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without even realizing it and if you're wondering what can you do about this like if i was a jew
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that's as connected as i am i would probably have connections to the adl i'd strongly encourage them
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to hire some outsider be that us i mean clearly we're fairly pro-jewish and we have our pulse i
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think on the thing the the pulse of the internet or a finger on the pulse of the internet a finger
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on the pulse of the internet so they could do that with us or they could do that with
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nux nux would be great nux would have immediately nux is probably gonna clown on this himself he's
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probably gonna be like can you believe the adl would say something that's being stupid nux or
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asthma gold or well i mean asthma gold i mean who can afford him right keep in mind if you hire
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nux you're hiring a jew so that's going to cost you a bit more right come with us we're cheap
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we're white trash over here right rednecks like us we got we come we you don't even need to you
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just pay us whatever you want and i'll review this stuff for you right but yeah honestly they would
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yeah i don't know i don't even want to name how low for price you'd be like yeah yeah sure i think
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increasingly companies need to have mechanisms and if you're somebody who's watching this and
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you're either at a non-profit or you are in an hr department or something like that and you are
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looking for somebody who can vet the way the internet's going to react to something we've
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played the internet like a fiddle for a decade at this point right like we're fairly good at this
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particular game every outrage cycle we've ridden to our advantage right like there hasn't been
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one that significantly did not move us forwards on us you want to play the game come to us and
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we'll help you as much as we can right like we we are hireable for this we even have an order for
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this yeah yeah but it's i hope they figure themselves out because it's it's sad to see
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this level of incompetence at play not to insult them but there must be something at play here like
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some donor maybe one of their largest donors this became their pet project they're like
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this whole goy slop thing they're making you know this is just anti-semitic and then they
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hoisted it upon the adl's team no i'll tell you what happened and i'm fairly sure i can i can
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model what happened some urban monoculture karen who doesn't really understand the internet
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Like we're talking about like the additives in food,
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And there's been some viral videos of Jews
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It's no wonder that the Goyans want the kosher food.
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I shouldn't be telling you this, but I am.
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Do you want to help the goyim get off the goyslop
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Like that, I think the most viral videos on this
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Like, and they might've seen something like this
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and they immediately think, well, this is anti-Jewish, right?
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because it is in any way could be taken as a criticism of the jewish people therefore we have
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a right to just shut it down because anything anti-jewish can just be shut down whenever we
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feel like shutting it down because it could for a while like this the fact that they were able to
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de-platform that guy for pointing out a real known problem within this orthodox community that
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nobody disputes the adl didn't be like this isn't a major problem this fraud isn't a major problem
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so yeah i i guess i what i think we need to move more towards and we even have a company already
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set up for this anti anti-bigotry right what do we call it remediation a deiremediation.com i think
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we have so we have a whole court for doing this we've got a whole brand for doing this
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you let us know and we will help you because this stuff is gonna destroy you it's bad it's bad
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because right now what the ADL just initiated was an entire internet news cycle of clowning on
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Jewish people and that further normalizes it for the next time this happens because everybody knows
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they're going to say stuff in response to this and everybody's going to think it's getting
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hilarious and everybody's going to go along with it because 95% of the people this time
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either approved of it 90 percent approve of it 50 percent didn't care and then you got the
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the five percent who are against it and and frankly i think it's it's probably lower than that
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view but yeah just be aware culture is shifting and that cultural shift is making it upwind
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upwind upwind upwind and frankly this is why figures like nux are so important to the jewish
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community right now he is in in the actual culture war that matters your only or primary
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champion by like orders of magnitude like nobody listens for example to ben shapiro anymore like
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you guys have had people in the right in the past i that had a lot of influence but they
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captured institutional positions that don't matter anymore
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yeah nux still has cultural relevance so maybe work a bit more to help him or work with him
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because he's your guys like shot right now at not having the entire online right to turn
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anti-semitic i mean i guess we're useful in that as well because we generally argue in favor of
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jewish interests but you guys don't have and have as many like fallbacks i i guess this just needs
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to be thought through more jews are smarter than this like jews should have more both awareness of
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the cultural game that's being played and more interest in communicating with that cultural game
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in a way that prevents it from going in an anti-semitic direction and i mean truly
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anti-semitic direction not calling out goy slot also hold on really also jews need to really work
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like another another thing that's really going to trigger people going forwards and i've noticed
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this more and more in this they may not see this as that so i just want to note this before we
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saying something is a conspiracy theory that is a blatant and observable fact
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like if somebody says Jews control Hollywood
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you can quibble about that but it's true they have a disproportionate level of control
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in hollywood and have for generate since its inception that's not a conspiracy but when you
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say that's an anti-semitic conspiracy people are like wow like are we are we like you're gaslighting
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me now like you're pretending the jews control ai jews do disproportionately control ai uh
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massad has done a spectacular job manipulating world politics
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secret cabals of jews have disproportionate power in both business politics and entertainment
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obviously this is true we've caught one others are probably less nefarious and some of them
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even institutionalized well what do you call chabad if not institutionalized organization
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with disproportionate level of control in american politics that's not that that just
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infuriates people and like get just get better at dealing with that and this will likely go down a
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bit the swelling will go down but for now where do i see things going i mean i see things sort
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spiraling in a direction where is phileo-semitic as we want to be we need to even internally in
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our communication better describe the jews as a separate people with potentially aligned interests
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that are in a good position to work with but extremely distinct from whatever we are and
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that that is i i think the best way to sort of psychologically handle this in terms of handling
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this in a way that's going to going to go in any sort of productive direction the idea of a judeo
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christian singular group i think has shattered and i and i think it's shattered to such an extent
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that christians who bet on it have had their careers destroyed in the past like before they
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we're aware of this like ted cruz ted cruz bet on this idea and i think it has destroyed his
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credibility yeah i could see that yeah the other thing that's been very interesting that i've seen
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recede over time is the support for rebuilding the temple among evangelicals
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which was something so if you look historically in the united states there was this big movement
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because they thought that it would bring about the the end times right but apocalyptic forms of
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evangelical protestantism of of that type yeah they're kind of on the outs right now
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yeah i guess you know i haven't heard a whole lot about it people are talking about it being a thing
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but i'm not hearing from the people who think it's a thing if that makes sense yeah i'm not
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hearing from them i don't see them in my conservative circles i don't see them in when
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we're doing campaigning i don't see them you know who i do see increasingly in the conservative
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circles is groups that are much closer to what i call like techno puritan like framing like our
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framing of like christianity slash science is incredibly and increasingly common among the use
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this sort of practical skeptical conspiratorial but ultimately very scientific
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understanding of christianity is the one that is really replacing the panicked we we've got to
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protect and i think that the jews losing that has lost a major point for them that could have
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taken flack for them in this current sort of online battle
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which has also been bad right i mean you go out and you defend this like suppose ted cruz went
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out there and defend this he'd get clowned on to no end yeah any final thoughts simone
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i just don't know i don't know what to think anymore i feel like we all we all just need to
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do our own things for a while you know stop policing other people's opinions just let them
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go out there can we just bring back trash talk without the policing no this is the interesting
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thing we our side our cultural movement this online right movement has effectively policed
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the adl's talking points which is to say not just we're not going to listen to you
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but it is actively negative for you to be saying this and you're hurting your community and the
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people who said this are likely dealing with internal blowback or donor blowback at this point
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so we still police it's just on the opposite side it's the anti-policing police
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don't even try to police or it will blow up in your face this wasn't a neutral thing that
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happened it's not like they tried and nothing happened they tried and a rake hit their face
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that all just sounds so exhausting but yeah i get it and i remember that there is pushback it
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is important that there is pushback so yeah it's fine yeah well i mean i'm i'm i'm getting sick of
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every everyone's sick of oh the you know whatever replacement immigration right that's a uh a
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conspiracy right like all these things that they said are conspiracies it's like then why does your
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side say it in spain and cheer when it's happening right like why why can't we have these
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conversations without everything being a conspiracy when when all of us can see the statistics and
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what your side is communicating internally anyway love you i love you too
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Where is Titan? Who knows? I don't know where Titan is. Is that Titan?
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What are you going to do when you're a shark princess?
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Well, I will swim in the water really fast while eating some fish that are not pink or purple.
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I only like gray fish and yellow fish and green fish and not pink and purple fish and I jump the gray fish and the green fish and they...
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When people just do not like meat on their shoulders like that, then sharks will eat them, and I will be really bad, so do not put shoulders on your arms like that, then I will eat you like a shark inside.
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Now do not go in the water with meat on your wrist, then a shark will eat you.