Based Camp - August 16, 2023


How to Actually Win The Political Game


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00:00:00.000 Once you begin to normalize the psychological practices that people are supposed to learn
00:00:08.400 how to undertake on their own and are supposed to require mental fortitude to enact, you
00:00:14.420 lose the advantage of those practices.
00:00:17.380 This is what I mean by aesthetic conservatism.
00:00:19.580 If you have somebody and you impose restrictions at the government level, you make them less
00:00:25.380 likely to convert to your cultural group because the people in your cultural group will have
00:00:32.380 less of a differential societal advantage.
00:00:35.620 If you want to convert the maximum number of people, what you should actually do is impose
00:00:40.840 the minimum number of cultural restrictions on the outside population while putting the
00:00:46.020 maximum effort into controlling the education system.
00:00:49.520 And interestingly, this is to some extent what the progressive urban monoculture has
00:00:54.460 done in an environment that's devoid of a really strong religious base.
00:00:59.500 I feel like these political parties are more strong for people than than values.
00:01:04.060 People are literally living by the aesthetics of conservatism because there there is nothing
00:01:09.200 else.
00:01:09.500 Just like these sort of hollow philosophical shells that are just following the trappings
00:01:13.540 of a party.
00:01:14.260 Would you like to know more?
00:01:15.820 Hello, Malcolm Collins.
00:01:17.860 Hello, Simone.
00:01:18.880 I am excited to be here with you today.
00:01:21.300 Today, we are going to touch on a topic that's been bugging me recently because I think it
00:01:27.780 shows the extent to which our society has fallen that even within conservative circles,
00:01:36.840 there has been a clear confusion around the sort of point of conservatism, like actually
00:01:46.000 advancing conservative values and the aesthetic of conservatism, acting in a way that you
00:01:53.280 identify as like aesthetically conservative.
00:01:57.080 And it's not to say that you will not intrinsically appear aesthetically conservative if you are
00:02:04.620 aligning with conservative values.
00:02:07.040 Actually, here, I'll give a really great example of this that came from one of our recent videos
00:02:12.860 where we're talking about porn and I'm like conservative cultural groups evolved to have
00:02:17.880 porn restrictions because it led to people potentially better mental health, but also
00:02:21.980 having sex more frequently, leading to more kids, leading to more people within that cultural
00:02:26.200 group.
00:02:27.300 And people were like, well, you know, aesthetically, like they still want the government to enact
00:02:31.380 porn restrictions.
00:02:32.600 And I think this is almost a perfect example because who are you helping if you do that?
00:02:36.860 If you have the government enact porn restrictions?
00:02:39.280 Well, it's not the people who naturally would have been able to resist porn due to the cultural
00:02:45.200 group they're a part of, right?
00:02:46.520 So if I'm a Catholic integralist and I'm trying to get the government to restrict porn, it's
00:02:50.900 not the other conservative Catholics at my church who are benefiting from this.
00:02:55.480 It is specifically the people who disagree with me.
00:02:59.340 It is specifically the people who are most culturally distant from me.
00:03:02.440 And worse, I am making whatever positive things my church is offering through this differential
00:03:10.460 cultural value set less because now everyone is practicing this porn restriction thing.
00:03:18.000 And in addition to that, people within my cultural institution, they are now no longer getting
00:03:24.440 any sort of psychological benefit from consciously choosing to resist this thing in their environment,
00:03:30.480 right?
00:03:31.060 Which is, yeah.
00:03:32.840 Well, so I'm going to push back.
00:03:34.360 And I think what we may be looking at is an overlap of some what we call dominant cultures
00:03:41.680 and then conservative cultures, which are often harder cultures, right?
00:03:45.980 Dominating cultures is the word.
00:03:47.240 Yeah, dominating cultures.
00:03:48.580 So in the Pragmatist Guide to Crafting Religion, Malcolm, you describe different types of cultures
00:03:53.620 in terms of how they relate to broader society.
00:03:55.500 With dominating cultures generally having the view that basically everyone should, in an
00:04:01.700 ideal scenario, follow this religion because if they don't, they're all going to go to hell
00:04:06.000 or experience some other really bad outcome.
00:04:08.380 This is in contrast to cultures that we call in the book symbiotic cultures.
00:04:12.560 A symbiotic culture is more like the Jewish faith, Calvinists, people who are not like,
00:04:18.140 okay, everyone should join us.
00:04:19.520 Everyone should be one of us.
00:04:20.600 It's more like, oh, not everyone can be.
00:04:22.100 So these cultures don't have a mandate to force everyone to adhere to their rules, and
00:04:26.840 they don't have a mandate to try to proselytize or convert or save everyone.
00:04:31.320 So I think what you're talking about here is that there are many hard cultures that are
00:04:34.340 also dominating cultures that feel it is imperative for them to save people from damnation by imposing
00:04:42.180 their rules on them.
00:04:43.420 So I think you're taking a symbiotic view.
00:04:46.460 Why imposing their rules doesn't actually have that effect if you do it at the state level.
00:04:49.920 So first, let's elaborate a bit more on this dominating versus symbiotic cultural view.
00:04:55.760 Symbiotic cultures ironically typically have a somewhat elitist attitude, as many would
00:05:00.260 argue Calvinist and Jewish groups do, which is to say they typically divide the world into
00:05:03.840 a chosen population or an elect population and a non-elect population or a non-chosen population.
00:05:09.520 And because of that, they don't think that everyone is meant to be saved.
00:05:12.500 And so they don't have a cultural, they culturally work much better with other cultures because
00:05:19.460 they can interact with someone of a completely different world perspective and have no interest
00:05:25.520 in converting that person.
00:05:26.720 Whereas if you believe that everyone can be saved, you know, if you believe everyone can
00:05:32.220 join your cultural group, you always have a moral mandate to attempt to convert that person.
00:05:38.280 And this is something I really feel when I am, you know, when somebody like feels bad for trying
00:05:43.680 to convert me to their religion and I'm like, there's no need to feel bad.
00:05:47.620 I actually am a little bit more insulted when somebody doesn't because I'm like, you think
00:05:52.040 I'm literally going to be tortured for all eternity if I don't convert.
00:05:57.420 And they're apparently super cool with that.
00:05:59.440 Yeah.
00:05:59.620 I also don't even understand how you know how interfaith marriage is within these cultures.
00:06:02.980 Like what, you think your spouse is going to be tortured for all eternity?
00:06:05.280 Well, I think, I think for many of them, they're just playing the long game.
00:06:08.100 Like the, the, the interfaith marriage that I know from childhood was one in which like
00:06:12.320 up until the very end, this man held out, but then he converted to the like LDS church,
00:06:17.500 which is great because then they can have, you know, eternity together.
00:06:20.880 But, you know, I do think that people hold out.
00:06:23.980 Yeah.
00:06:24.180 So, so these two cultures will act very differently in different societal contexts.
00:06:29.480 Dominating cultures typically have a behavior pattern where they will pretend to be victims
00:06:33.120 when they're in the minority status.
00:06:35.220 And as they get more and more social power, they'll try to move the society more towards
00:06:40.620 a theocracy, but they will do it in a really, this is also interestingly a huge change that
00:06:47.320 has happened within American Christianity, where American Christianity, when the country
00:06:51.940 was founded, they're based on the heritage foundation showing that the country was ever
00:06:55.300 50% Calvinist, which is why it was so easy for, for the founders to be like, oh yes, of
00:06:59.960 course we can have a multi-faith system here, but Arminianism grew and grew and grew within
00:07:05.720 American Christianity.
00:07:07.160 That's the anti-Calvinist beliefs that there's no elect and unelect and everyone can be saved.
00:07:12.760 And, and as of that grew, this sort of new American Christianity does see a value in using
00:07:18.300 the government to impose its values on people.
00:07:21.000 And so as dominating groups grow in power, they will try to enforce their values on other
00:07:25.540 people, but it's a very bad strategy, right?
00:07:29.640 Your real goal is to capture these people's souls, as we say.
00:07:34.940 Yeah.
00:07:35.120 And well, in the most like technical sense possible too.
00:07:39.220 Yeah.
00:07:39.660 Yeah.
00:07:39.960 Yeah.
00:07:40.320 It's, it's to save their souls.
00:07:42.620 So if you have somebody and you impose restrictions, let's say pornography restrictions or monogamy
00:07:48.820 or other things like that on a person and you do that at the government level, you, in many
00:07:55.140 ways, actually make them less likely to convert to your cultural group because the people in
00:08:02.040 your cultural group will have less of a differential societal advantage, right?
00:08:07.620 So what you're saying is, is basically if, if I'm in some special Simone dominating hard
00:08:16.140 culture and I try to impose my rules on other people without their consent necessarily, that
00:08:21.600 I'm going to also lose the edge that the people in my culture have by imposing this on other
00:08:27.580 people, making them less likely to want to join me because they're like, oh, I already
00:08:32.040 will live, live my, my wholesome life with my wholesome nofap life, you know, because
00:08:37.500 you forced me to.
00:08:38.700 So why would I need to join your group?
00:08:40.200 Is that sort of where you're going?
00:08:41.580 Yeah.
00:08:42.120 Historically, whenever a dominating cultural group has gained control of a society, it's
00:08:47.600 typically like innovation has collapsed really quickly and economics typically do very poorly.
00:08:53.700 It's, it's not a very historically, it hasn't been very successful.
00:08:58.200 Um, and it, it hasn't been successful for, I think, obvious reasons.
00:09:02.040 Once you begin to normalize the psychological practices that people are supposed to learn
00:09:10.400 how to undertake on their own and, and are supposed to require mental fortitude to enact,
00:09:16.260 you lose the advantage of those practices.
00:09:19.800 And so I think this is what I mean by aesthetic conservatism.
00:09:22.800 I think within conservative circles, somebody can be like, oh yes, I resist porn, right?
00:09:29.140 Like they're showing how much they follow their cultural practices or within like their local
00:09:33.200 community, right?
00:09:34.180 Oh, I resist, you know, their local Muslim community.
00:09:36.360 Oh, I don't do this.
00:09:37.260 I resist porn.
00:09:38.320 I don't do X, Y, Z.
00:09:39.900 Um, and then somebody wants to show that they're even more conservative than that person because
00:09:45.000 that's how their local dominance hierarchy is sorted.
00:09:47.120 And so they're like, actually I'm against porn so much.
00:09:50.520 I think the government should ban it, which makes sense within this local dominance fight,
00:09:55.400 but it actually screws over your culture from the perspective of your cultural value system,
00:10:01.280 which is to convert the maximum number of people.
00:10:03.980 If you want to convert the maximum number of people, what you should actually do is impose
00:10:09.440 the minimum number of cultural restrictions on the outside population while putting the
00:10:14.620 maximum effort into controlling the education system.
00:10:17.200 And interestingly, this is to some extent what the progressive urban monoculture has done.
00:10:23.900 They impose almost no cultural restrictions and focus on controlling the educational system.
00:10:28.440 And they've done a good job of infiltrating even these, you know, conservative dominating
00:10:33.520 cultural educational institutions.
00:10:35.420 Like you're beginning to see a lot of woke stuff, you know, bubble up within like Catholic
00:10:39.600 schools, for instance, which should be one of the bastions, which is meant to serve the
00:10:44.520 exact opposite function because they are focused on the aesthetics of what they're doing, the
00:10:50.440 aesthetics of looking conservative and enforcing conservatism without focusing on one, why those
00:10:56.980 aesthetics evolved or the advantage those aesthetics gives them.
00:11:00.000 Well, what I think is interesting about this is the power of, I guess, cultural influence and
00:11:07.480 exposure over forced rules or regulation.
00:11:12.580 And by that, I mean, like just exposing people to culture as youth and showing them this is how
00:11:19.480 life can be, or this is how life is, can be so much more powerful than forcing people like, oh, you're
00:11:25.020 not allowed to get an abortion or you're not allowed to do this or that.
00:11:29.020 The much more powerful influencer is really just exposing people to ideas and lifestyles in a certain
00:11:35.260 way, and that people are, especially many conservative groups are misplacing their, their
00:11:41.980 attention.
00:11:42.700 What I thought you, you were going to touch on too, and maybe this is something to explore is also
00:11:47.660 just people who identify, for example, as Republican, but not actually ideologically
00:11:53.020 conservatively, like they more just are part of the team and they would be Republican no
00:11:59.220 matter what.
00:12:00.000 I think abortion is a completely separate issue here because in that it's about, are they
00:12:04.080 killing a human life?
00:12:05.620 Yeah.
00:12:05.760 It's about the definition of where life begins.
00:12:07.920 Yeah.
00:12:08.120 That's very different than something like porn restrictions or in the case of the Amish
00:12:11.980 community.
00:12:12.460 So we did a video where we were explaining, you do not want to have the government keep out
00:12:17.460 immigrants to keep fertility rates up.
00:12:19.360 If you look at really high fertility cultural groups, like the Amish, you know, they, they
00:12:24.000 do not need the government to do something like that for them.
00:12:26.720 And then somebody pointed out in the comments, they go, Oh, but the Amish are an insular community,
00:12:32.980 right?
00:12:33.700 How does that prove that?
00:12:35.620 And the, the point of the Amish community is that they are able to maintain social cohesion
00:12:41.820 and social isolation without the government enforcing that they have a choice to leave.
00:12:48.460 And they don't make it.
00:12:51.340 And when you as a cultural group need the government to enforce that, because you can
00:12:56.160 no longer through whatever benefits you're providing people, get them to choose to stay
00:13:01.820 within your culture.
00:13:02.800 That is the first signs that your culture is actually falling apart.
00:13:07.040 And as the government begins to take more and more roles to hold your culture together
00:13:13.120 and to ensure people actually practice your culture, the culture itself is doing less and
00:13:18.060 less of that, right?
00:13:19.180 It's, it's more and more relying on this government enforcement, meaning it's becoming exponentially
00:13:24.780 weaker and faster to the point you were talking about, about conservatism.
00:13:29.500 So I think it's important for people to remember what is actually the core of conservatism and
00:13:34.860 the core of conservatism is being part of a cultural group and wanting that cultural group
00:13:40.320 to exist in the future with intergenerational fidelity in terms of how it's, it's transferred.
00:13:44.980 Now there's two core conservative factions.
00:13:47.360 One wants their culture and only their culture to be the culture that exists in the future.
00:13:51.820 And to us, there's like progressives in disguise because that's what the progressives want,
00:13:55.480 right?
00:13:55.700 They just happen to be the dominant culture right now.
00:13:58.260 And the other wants to create an environment in which multiple cultures can continue to
00:14:03.760 exist together with some degree of autonomy from the government to the government's not
00:14:08.240 like, and, and, and some ability to, to operate their own government systems for their own
00:14:13.780 communities.
00:14:15.180 Which is to say a lot of conservative institutions, they're not against things like feeding the poor.
00:14:21.740 They just believe that their own soup kitchen should be doing this, not government.
00:14:25.700 You know, you go to conservative churches, they are offering a lot of what we think of
00:14:32.260 as government services.
00:14:33.720 You know, historically the church ran basically all orphanages, for example, you were, you
00:14:38.540 were going to say something.
00:14:40.400 Well, no, I just, I think that there are also really different types of conservatives.
00:14:44.940 So there are some people who are, for example, Republicans in the United States, because that party
00:14:51.940 in particular at this point in time is the best for protecting or in, in some ways, facilitating
00:14:58.760 their particular imperatives, like religiously, their inherent values, their doctrine, et cetera.
00:15:03.620 But then there are people who just seem to be Republican to be Republican.
00:15:07.740 And it's about playing in that particular dominance hierarchy.
00:15:10.780 And in many ways, they're more Republican than they are religious.
00:15:15.040 You know, they may, they may performatively go to church and stuff, but in many ways, it's
00:15:20.280 maybe because they identify as Republican and that's what Republicans do.
00:15:24.700 I don't know if I'm super off here, but I do feel like this is something that happens on
00:15:29.020 both sides of the political spectrum.
00:15:31.720 That there are some people who just, because they tribally choose to identify more with
00:15:36.120 that political party than any particular religious doctrine, doctrine or value sets, they just
00:15:40.740 go with all of its, its trappings.
00:15:42.560 Because I think to many people, especially in the United States, at least political parties
00:15:46.980 are more in your face and cohesive and easy to understand, and then also behave in line
00:15:53.300 with than, than religions.
00:15:55.880 I, I certainly, I will, I remember receiving in, when I still lived in California before I met
00:16:01.160 you like all of these letters and emails from the various nonprofits I donated to just being
00:16:08.220 like, and here's who you vote for.
00:16:10.160 You're going to vote for this person and this person and this person, because obviously you're
00:16:12.920 progressive who cares about the environment.
00:16:15.560 And so it's just given this whole way to live and in, in an environment that's devoid of a really
00:16:21.360 strong religious base.
00:16:22.600 If you're not raised in that kind of world, I feel like these political parties are more,
00:16:27.420 are more strong for people than, than values.
00:16:31.380 So my, my question to you is, do you think that that's also an issue at play here too,
00:16:35.580 where people are literally living by the aesthetics of conservatism because there, there is nothing
00:16:40.880 else.
00:16:41.120 So just like these sort of hollow, hollow philosophical shells that are just following the trappings
00:16:46.680 of a party.
00:16:47.480 I think that is very common among progressives.
00:16:49.640 I think it is exceedingly rare among conservatives, really not exceedingly rare, but much more
00:16:54.800 rare than it is among progressives.
00:16:56.360 I would agree that what you're saying is definitely, I think, yes, it is true that both sides to
00:17:02.800 some extent, see truth as a team sport, you know, and they're like, okay, which team am
00:17:07.640 I on?
00:17:08.440 Yeah.
00:17:08.620 I remember a woman and I was getting a notary in Philadelphia and this woman who did my
00:17:13.000 notary was like vote blue, no matter who.
00:17:15.200 And I'm like, yes, and again, I say progressives do this a lot.
00:17:19.360 However, with conservatives, I think that their team is their cultural slash religious group
00:17:26.680 and the Republican party is just the, the, well, and this is the point I'm making when
00:17:33.720 I'm talking about this aesthetic form of conservatism is they forget that the reason that they are
00:17:40.900 conservative is not to be conservative, not to be a Republican, but to be a better, you
00:17:46.760 know, Catholic or a secular Calvinist or Jew, or, you know, it's, it's, it's to advance
00:17:53.080 their own cultural objective.
00:17:55.600 I do think that you're right that there is this growing sort of hollow form of conservatism
00:18:00.240 where it's just, and I actually, it almost comes out of the manosphere to an extent
00:18:06.060 because people have realized that the progressive party is against them, right?
00:18:10.740 Like it, it treats men like shit, like just shit.
00:18:15.560 And so they're like, okay, well, they're not my team.
00:18:18.840 And so they're like, well, this is my team.
00:18:20.800 And yeah.
00:18:21.060 So I must be politically and like socially conservative.
00:18:25.580 Yeah.
00:18:25.700 But there's no understanding of why, like, again, to the point I think, why is the party
00:18:30.780 against porn?
00:18:31.400 Well, I think traditionalism also falls into that category.
00:18:34.560 There's a lot of people who are like, oh, I believe in the ways of traditionalism, but
00:18:39.160 they don't know why.
00:18:40.760 And if they actually, I think there are many strong religious arguments.
00:18:44.140 If you actually just looked at the doctrine for adopting quite a few changes in technologies,
00:18:48.140 because there are better ways to, to serve God than, than ways that people were able to
00:18:54.600 do in the past, given technological limitations, et cetera.
00:18:57.640 I don't get what you're saying here.
00:18:58.780 Well, what I'm saying is I think a lot of aesthetic conservatism has to do with doing
00:19:04.000 whatever the traditional thing is, going back to the old ways and, and not accepting
00:19:08.100 change.
00:19:08.720 I think people like generally seeking, be specific, use an example.
00:19:13.620 I think an example would be accepting different relationship formats more openly if it can lead
00:19:25.740 to higher levels of, you know, good religious adherence or strong community cohesion or birth
00:19:31.160 rates.
00:19:32.120 No, I disagree with that.
00:19:33.720 Really?
00:19:34.160 No, look, these are their old systems.
00:19:36.840 This is their culture.
00:19:37.820 Their culture does not believe these things are moral.
00:19:40.700 So yeah, they're against these things and that's fine.
00:19:43.820 But this is a cultural hypothesis.
00:19:46.000 See, their culture wins in the long run.
00:19:48.220 If it turns out they're right, their culture will come to dominate in the long run.
00:19:51.920 When they enforce those systems on people who don't believe their culture, right, and aren't
00:19:57.500 ready to join their culture, all they do, assuming they are right in these different types of
00:20:02.720 relationship structures, turn out to be the correct ones, the ones that their culture asks
00:20:07.300 of them.
00:20:08.220 All they're doing is increasing the strength of their enemies.
00:20:12.800 So yeah, it's, it's, it's a terrible idea, but I want to come back to this Amish thing
00:20:18.240 here because I think this is, this is really an important thing to drill down on.
00:20:24.000 And this is also to me where I think that the, the immorality of this situation is horrifying
00:20:30.860 and, and the extent to which it shows people have lost their conservative roots is horrifying.
00:20:35.060 They can't even imagine asking somebody to show a little self-control and from a cultural
00:20:45.720 perspective and a person being able to do that without the government helping them.
00:20:52.600 That's what it signals to me when somebody says, I need the government to assist in this
00:20:56.480 because clearly they think it's helping people of their own, own culture.
00:20:59.620 They're not doing it to help other people, right?
00:21:01.680 They're not doing it to help their enemies better compete against them.
00:21:04.280 And if they're not doing it to help their enemies better compete against them, it means
00:21:08.260 that people within their culture need this help that they need this government help to
00:21:13.140 maintain their cultural value system.
00:21:15.300 And then the value system just isn't very good, or it's not relevant in a modern context.
00:21:20.880 And, and that's really horrifying where the Amish elucidate this is this idea that they're
00:21:28.900 missing the, yes, the Amish socially isolate themselves.
00:21:32.500 But they do it as a choice.
00:21:36.280 Our culture, you, me, the people our kids engage with, we socially isolate ourselves to an extent
00:21:42.320 within a wider cultural network.
00:21:44.060 And yes, sort of, we, we, we preach to the public, but we maintain some level of a bubble
00:21:49.700 around our kids so that they are not polluted with this urban monoculture.
00:21:54.380 And they, you know, we really intentionally go out and we find other families that have our
00:21:59.920 weird value set and we have our kids play with their kids and go on trips with their kids
00:22:04.360 and do summer camps for them.
00:22:06.580 And we don't like, if the government started mandating this, I don't know what, that's
00:22:11.500 like a ghetto, right?
00:22:12.360 They're like, okay, you just interact with your cultural group.
00:22:15.520 We are doing all this for our kids because we think they're better off socially isolating
00:22:20.680 to some extent from these urban monocultures, as well as other conservative cultural groups.
00:22:27.040 But we do that without blocking immigrants.
00:22:30.860 Yeah.
00:22:31.260 Yeah.
00:22:32.220 And again, we're not pro like open borders or anything like that.
00:22:35.100 If you've watched our immigration video, we are pro skill-based immigration stuff, but
00:22:38.760 yeah.
00:22:38.960 So I think your broad, your broad take on this is people who are trying to more broadly
00:22:45.960 impose their, their culture on other groups by using the government as an implementation
00:22:52.200 weapon or tool are ultimately doing themselves a disservice if they care about their culture,
00:22:57.440 if they care about winning people over and they should be focusing more on just improving
00:23:02.660 their own internal function.
00:23:03.900 Is that sort of where you stand on this?
00:23:05.420 Well, I think if your intuition is because most hard cultures, most of these older conservative
00:23:11.880 cultures, they, they require a lot of restrictions for people, but the, the, the point of these
00:23:17.820 restrictions is that you're choosing to do them.
00:23:20.960 The point of Ramadan is that you're choosing to do it.
00:23:24.580 The point of Lent is that you're choosing to do it.
00:23:27.620 You are engaging in these yourself.
00:23:30.000 If a person feels that they need the government to help them with this, then they're
00:23:35.360 that their culture is failing them.
00:23:37.020 That is not a sign of being extra conservative.
00:23:40.660 That is a sign of being from a weak cultural group that is failing and likely won't exist
00:23:47.020 for long unless you personally can come up with a way to make it stronger, to make the,
00:23:53.760 the, the, the lessons it is using to tell you, you need to resist this thing, better lessons
00:24:00.960 in a modern context.
00:24:03.940 That checks out.
00:24:05.340 Yeah.
00:24:05.780 Well, cultures you've been put on notice.
00:24:10.220 Yeah.
00:24:11.440 I don't think anyone's going to change their behavior though.
00:24:13.860 Let's be honest here.
00:24:15.080 And keep in mind, different cultures recommend different restrictions and what history is
00:24:21.720 going to tell us.
00:24:22.520 And what we're going to learn from the world is which ones happen to be right.
00:24:26.320 Right.
00:24:26.440 My family has a lot of restrictions on the way we live our lives, the way our kids live
00:24:30.020 their lives, but they are not, they're very odd restrictions to other people.
00:24:34.220 They're not the same set of restrictions many older conservative groups may use, but they,
00:24:41.100 we designed them to specifically combat like internet and stuff like that and, and not fight
00:24:46.440 against battles that we don't think can, can win anymore.
00:24:49.160 I mean, you can watch our video on like masturbation, like should that be restricted from a cultural
00:24:54.120 perspective, but in a modern context, but we could be wrong.
00:24:57.900 And if we are wrong, then either the iterations of our cultures, i.e. our kids that adapt different
00:25:02.300 cultural practices, they'll survive and thrive and proliferate and invest, they'll win.
00:25:07.260 Or our entire family culture won't be able to motivate intergenerational fidelity and reproduction
00:25:11.840 and it will go extinct.
00:25:13.720 And the, the different groups that are out there right now will end up dominating the future of the
00:25:20.000 human species, but the faster weak cultures can go extinct and strong cultures can proliferate,
00:25:26.400 the better giving, allowing weak cultures to hobble forwards by giving them or enforcing them to use
00:25:33.620 a few of the tools of harder, stronger cultures is not beneficial to anyone.
00:25:39.520 So I think also then a bigger issue is a culture that will withstand the test of time is going to
00:25:46.240 think intergenerationally and really you need to be thinking about, you know, how many of your
00:25:51.020 families now are going to have a bunch of kids and successfully give them such good childhoods that
00:25:55.380 they carry on that culture and have kids themselves and give them their kids, that culture, et cetera,
00:25:59.860 et cetera.
00:26:01.040 It doesn't really matter what other people are doing right now.
00:26:03.900 You know, if it lets, if you want to save as many souls as possible, like probably the best way to do
00:26:08.220 so is to ensure that most souls in the future, like are born into your religion and that your,
00:26:14.880 your religion inherits the future theoretically.
00:26:16.860 So you're saying people are also educational systems.
00:26:20.240 Yeah.
00:26:20.700 Or yeah.
00:26:21.220 Or create better educational systems.
00:26:22.860 That's another, yeah.
00:26:23.600 Very good point.
00:26:24.560 So people are just misled.
00:26:25.700 If we weren't creating a school system for our kids, you know, we would either be sending them to
00:26:29.760 the local Catholic or Jewish schools, obviously.
00:26:32.560 But I think that disproportionately religious school systems are, are, we're lucky as we always say
00:26:40.280 that our enemies are not as competent as they are malevolent.
00:26:43.060 They have provided you a easy pathway for new converts.
00:26:47.780 If you can ensure that these are well-run school systems that are out competing the traditional school
00:26:53.460 systems, not just in terms of how they introduce kids to your ideology, but in how they help those
00:26:59.160 kids prepare to engage with the world.
00:27:00.680 So in the end, top pro tips for people building cultures that are designed to win are one,
00:27:07.620 just focus on creating a strong intergenerationally durable culture.
00:27:11.040 And two, if you want to be a dominating culture, focus on education, stop trying to impose rules
00:27:16.160 on people.
00:27:16.800 It's probably not going to help you anyway.
00:27:18.900 Yeah.
00:27:19.140 Don't impose your culture on other people.
00:27:21.080 Convince them that your culture is better.
00:27:24.300 Well, let's see.
00:27:25.460 Let's see who does that.
00:27:26.700 I guess we won't see, but our, our descendants will, and we'd identify as them anyway.
00:27:30.320 So who cares?
00:27:31.300 We'll figure out one day.
00:27:32.920 Yeah.
00:27:33.220 We'll, we'll check in via them someday.
00:27:35.460 Or other people can, you know, probably no one will know what we wrote in the future.
00:27:39.160 We'll see.
00:27:41.080 Well, I love these conversations.
00:27:42.560 Thank you so much, Malcolm.
00:27:43.300 I love you.
00:27:44.420 Thank you.
00:27:45.060 Thank you.
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