Based Camp - Inside the Daily Life of Woke： Analyzing Blog of Far-Left, Anti-Kirsche VICE Journo

00:00:00.000 hello simone i am excited to be here with you today and this is an episode i have been

00:00:04.460 dying to do literally every day you're like i wish we could record this now this is but we've

00:00:10.740 had a reporter at our house every day for the past three days that two german groups one

00:00:15.740 japanese team yeah and then we also had the steve truly show that's got you know million

00:00:21.580 subscribers so i had to do that and and then before that it was the cruise so it's been so

00:00:25.980 long but it's given me so much time to research this topic because of this yes so we are going to

00:00:34.020 be diving in to the daily life of anna valens you were an interesting study lust greed deception 0.95

00:00:44.200 fertile ground but rather mundane this is the individual who attempted to cancel the youtuber

00:00:52.180 kirsha who is a vtuber we have another episode on that if you want to see that that is not what we

00:00:58.920 are adjudicating here that is not what we are talking about here this isn't even really an

00:01:04.040 episode designed to dunk on this reporter anna valens this is an episode that is designed to

00:01:10.980 look at what happens and what the daily life of somebody who is bought in to all of the urban

00:01:18.080 monoculture's indulgences looks like when they hit their mid-30s what is the payout from all of this

00:01:27.300 you know if you go with the lifestyle that we promote you'd have a job that contributes to your

00:01:33.740 community you'd have a bunch of kids you'd be as we say living the end of gladiator

00:01:40.140 and i think a lot of people when we say things like look i don't think that we should go out there

00:01:58.140 and make trans people feel bad about the choices that they've made but i do think it's important

00:02:04.980 to do things like bring up well what actually happens if you go all in with this lifestyle

00:02:11.220 where actually does that leave you because if you look at the celebrities who promote it they're

00:02:16.820 typically people who are beginning their journey within this lifestyle it's it's the before and i just

00:02:24.620 decided to do this it's not the i've been doing this for 20 years and here's what happened to me after

00:02:31.540 that right once upon another time there was a fox and he was called jerome one day he found a copy of

00:02:38.600 cheap phone magazine and he read an article about london life three weeks later he was off his tiny face

00:02:45.640 in a gay club but the party lifestyle took its toll eventually he ended up on the streets begging for

00:02:52.140 cheese in dalston and what's great about annavalence is you get that and annavalence falls into the and

00:02:59.400 this is where i'd say we are not against you know your average trans person right do what you want

00:03:03.160 right we do strongly recommend against the cinnabite lifestyle and i'll explain you need to break it down

00:03:11.200 because i've this was never heard of it before yeah doors to the pleasures of heaven nor hell i didn't

00:03:17.980 care which i thought i'd gone to the limits i hadn't the cinnabites gave me an experience beyond the

00:03:24.240 limits pain and pleasure indivisible

00:03:27.740 so there was a famous horror franchise in the 1980s called hellraiser it's where the character pinhead is from

00:03:40.420 who are you explorers in the further regions of experience demons to some angels to others

00:03:49.780 we came now you must come with us taste our pleasures

00:03:54.960 oh no tears please it's a waste of good suffering

00:04:05.180 this is the guy if you have seen him the horror guy with a bunch of pins all in his head

00:04:10.420 this was a world where if you had looked at other 80s horror franchises at the time 1.00

00:04:15.980 the killers were often stereotypes of you know hillbillies or they were stupid or they were 0.98

00:04:24.240 just crazy right whereas they wanted to make a cunning and meticulous horror villain but who is 0.99

00:04:32.900 still totally horrifying right and so the cinnabites were people who went to a another dimension a hell

00:04:39.660 dimension where they lived lives dedicated to exploring the furthest reaches of pleasure and

00:04:46.720 experience and pain and as they just kept indulging in pleasure and pleasure and pleasure they begin to

00:04:53.120 desensitize to it and so they begin to look for new ways to feel pleasure or anything at that point

00:05:00.500 you can think of them if you're more familiar with the warhammer 40k these are slaneshi cultists

00:05:05.740 they begin you know ripping off their skin they begin putting hooks in themselves they begin putting

00:05:10.260 nails in their heads and it's not you know when you're warning somebody against the villains in

00:05:17.620 this franchise right you will have an individual with like a the puzzle box that summons them and

00:05:22.880 they're like i want a pleasure this they say they'll give me pleasure you know and people are like

00:05:27.260 well i mean they're not lying about that in the short term but there is the long term to think

00:05:33.520 about because eventually you become a cinnabite if you become the cinnabite's victim they they abduct

00:05:38.220 people and bring them back to their realm when these people call them and in many ways people can be

00:05:45.360 like why are you so worried about things like these book readings that are happening at schools

00:05:49.800 and then the little fox went to the woods why are you so worried about almost to me feels like why

00:05:58.520 are you so worried about like these cinnabites who are hanging around the school and occasionally 1.00

00:06:02.080 abduct children and make them cinnabites and then the bear went over the mountains to see what he could

00:06:09.340 see like i worry about it because of the mental health effects okay and we've talked about those a

00:06:17.740 hundred other times but i want to talk about the daily life so let's talk about the daily life

00:06:20.760 of anna valens from their own sub stack all right and i'll be reading from this okay a few months

00:06:29.900 before the pandemic began i went to a queer sex party with a fair mix of cis and trans women normally

00:06:36.280 i find t4t is one of the most seamless sexual experiences i've ever had that's when you hook up with 0.99

00:06:41.920 another trans person as a trans person sure the anxious dancing around the topic is gone the

00:06:47.080 uncertainty and fear of being too much isn't present trans femmes tend to hook up with each other at 1.00

00:06:52.800 lightning speeds but something was a little different at this party the more i tried flirting

00:06:58.740 with other trans girls the more i picked up the vibe that a lot of the other dolls came to hook up with 1.00

00:07:04.740 cis girls this party served as an intersection where cis trans lesbians could meet and so hooking up with 1.00

00:07:13.320 another trans girl was sort of missing the point the role expectations were changed due to the setting

00:07:18.900 and the circumstances so cis trans lesbian so it's a man who's into women and is trans yeah right it's

00:07:28.060 it's somebody who was born a guy who was into women but is dressing up as a woman and wants lesbians to 0.99

00:07:34.240 have sex with him okay okay a lot of people like they don't pressure themselves on lesbians 0.99

00:07:40.600 i mean this is them saying this but okay but the change also called into question the very concept 0.99

00:07:47.680 of t4t for me is tf4tf always t4t or is it sometimes t4t until i get my hands on some of that cis girl 1.00

00:07:58.020 okay the the i try to not use any curse words in this at all anymore or swear words you could use

00:08:08.660 the word vagene vagene okay i'll say that t4t until i get my hands on some of that cis girl vagene 1.00

00:08:14.980 no i mean this is this this is them saying this they're saying trans women prefer universally in

00:08:26.140 their experience cis women to trans women as partners if they prefer female partners which is

00:08:34.440 saying that from the perspective of a trans woman other trans women are less women or less at least

00:08:43.060 what they're interested in than cis women which then brings the question of why then do they have a 0.99

00:08:48.660 problem when some cis lesbians say i don't want to date trans women right when even the trans women 0.66

00:08:55.120 have a preference for cis lesbians yeah this this is always something i wondered about you know how 1.00

00:09:02.200 well founded are all these lesbian complaints about trans women that is natal men saying they're women 0.60

00:09:10.540 entering their spaces but this implies from the perspective of someone who is a natal man

00:09:14.980 who now identifies as a woman saying that so that this is this is useful new information for me

00:09:21.600 yeah and the ramifications of that answer have a terrible effect on both of you as well as the

00:09:27.640 other trans femmes you're hooking up with sexual roles and expectations tend to have a contagious effect 1.00

00:09:32.540 and then dot dot dot the first crack in the veneer for me the thing that began the slow and gradual

00:09:38.420 exposure of my real self was learning i was ineffable

00:09:42.360 so what this story is going to focus on is this individual beginning to realize that the only

00:09:52.480 people who willingly sleep with trans women are trans women and that they didn't want trans women as 0.86

00:10:02.000 partners and that they realized that nobody really wanted them except for the other people who no one

00:10:10.320 else wanted to touch that's lonely it is lonely and sad but it's important to highlight this

00:10:16.680 from the perspective of somebody who is a you know a vice journalist and who ran another thing like this

00:10:22.400 is a fairly successful trans woman living in new york right like this is supposedly what you want from 0.98

00:10:30.420 life right like if you're taking this path you have achieved everything you've achieved the status you

00:10:35.520 would have achieved the nice city and yet they still have nothing nothing even from their own

00:10:41.080 value perspective even from their own community perspective and i appreciate this too because as

00:10:45.800 you said earlier most of us when exposed to transition stories are seeing the excitement the

00:10:51.880 hope the finally i found in my community and not the okay did did happily ever after take place

00:10:58.000 and i think that this is well yeah it's adding nuance to the equation right when i was about to

00:11:07.060 move i started going to parties in brooklyn we be parties where we could get all sloshed and high and

00:11:12.620 dance to 2000s anime music and go home crossfaded it was casual and chill classic new york

00:11:18.680 millennial house party vibes fun fun fun i was one of the only trans femmes at these parties one of the two or 1.00

00:11:25.720 three but everyone treated me fine no one acted weird towards me especially not the femme and 0.98

00:11:30.500 non-binary hang everyone seemed happy to see me enjoyed my presence a floater who got to vibe and

00:11:36.980 chill and joke and have fun i felt like i fit right in i finally found my people and it sounds like a fun

00:11:44.880 group right as well like i'm just like oh it's like a weeb anime group where they watch anime music and

00:11:49.540 you know etc and and of course they tolerate a trans person right you know then something changed when i

00:11:55.420 started introducing my cis girlfriends into the friend group my friends got attention i mean i did

00:12:00.920 too but in the way you do when people like your jokes these women they got attraction attention people 1.00

00:12:08.280 came up to them to talk to them to chat with them seemed to spend a lot of time around them wanting

00:12:13.400 something from them oh i soon realized they're trying to f them huh that happens here whoa that's never

00:12:21.500 happened to me so what's happening is she found a community that she thought she liked and that

00:12:27.980 she thought accepted her but then realized that they did not want to have sex with her it's all 1.00

00:12:33.620 performative yeah they they accept her of her lifestyle but they don't actually see her as a woman

00:12:39.040 well and i think that's quite universal that there are there are a lot of progressive people who will

00:12:47.440 absolutely accept people's life choices but that doesn't mean they're going to like voluntarily have

00:12:51.560 sex with those people you can't change your arousal patterns based on your politics yeah

00:12:57.420 which is is sad because these people they wouldn't know this if they're just interacting with these 0.72

00:13:04.000 communities if they just go to one of these communities and they're like okay what do like

00:13:08.880 are you guys cool with trans people are like yeah if i'm a trans person am i ever going to be made

00:13:12.720 fun of or made to feel bad about my choices no and so then they're like ah so the lesbians are 1.00

00:13:18.700 going to date me in this community and the answer is no yeah that promise was never made no issue no

00:13:24.360 we just said we wouldn't but they misinterpreted that because there was a tacit assumption that

00:13:30.240 they would also have relationships and fulfilling sex lives right yes they saw this as the validation

00:13:36.960 and i should point out that while i don't think this individual totally passes they sometimes pass

00:13:41.960 sometimes don't they think they pass so let's say this individual thinks they pass right the point

00:13:45.800 i would make about this individual is one this is an individual who didn't have bottom surgery 0.53

00:13:49.940 so so keep that in mind that they're trying to get lesbians to sleep with somebody who has 1.00

00:13:54.380 girl dick girl dick as they would call it which to me is assault but okay you know they they especially 1.00

00:14:01.200 if you don't mourn them first but they you know this is them telling what it's like to be this type of 1.00

00:14:07.520 individual this isn't like some weird deformed person this is a normal looking trans individual

00:14:12.520 if anything somebody who if they had stayed a man would be a fairly i'd say probably attractive man

00:14:18.860 right like normal i i can't judge male attractiveness well but i don't think that they would be like

00:14:24.060 actively monstrous looking or anything like that they'd be able to find and secure a partner

00:14:29.000 and they gave that up in their quest for self-validation and i don't think what we're seeing here

00:14:35.300 that they didn't realize that they were giving this up this was not advertised to them on the on

00:14:40.700 the lid when they did this i want to i want to be clear that this is not a universally trans problem

00:14:47.020 that like an area of the internet where i see this taking place way more than i see it taking place

00:14:52.220 with trans individuals is with women who are taxidermying themselves with plastic surgery 0.99

00:14:58.700 they're given the impression and the promise that if they get these procedures or use these skin

00:15:03.300 care products that they will be seen as desirable and often women who are no longer in their 20s are 1.00

00:15:09.480 trying to look like they're 21 and it doesn't work just like i think a lot of trans people 1.00

00:15:14.520 are under the impression that they're going to look like women and people will be attracted to them 0.75

00:15:21.080 like women just like these older women are given this this tale of oh you will look like a 21 year 0.98

00:15:27.240 old you will be attractive to people like a 21 year old and they simply aren't so that's a great

00:15:32.080 that's a great analogy i i think is is if you are somebody who is thinking about this and you are

00:15:39.120 having trouble modeling the way that other people will think of you internally they will see you the

00:15:45.480 way that you maybe when you were in your 20s would have saw a 40 year old woman who had gotten a ton 1.00

00:15:52.580 of you know a lot of work done and was trying to hit on 20 year old guys and is like why don't you

00:16:00.560 see me as a 20 year old woman you can't pull this off it's it you just shouldn't try you're never

00:16:05.880 going to be a 20 something girl anymore and if you're a natal male unless you're they're here saying

00:16:12.440 and this is what makes the analogy so perfect they're like but i see myself as a 20 year old girl

00:16:17.320 i i see myself as young at heart yeah and just like these women do yeah these women are like 1.00

00:16:21.640 well i see myself as a desirable young woman yeah i paid for the procedure i look approximately like

00:16:28.600 one why can't you see me that way when i see myself this way and it's like well other people

00:16:34.540 don't work that way all right then they go on to say this is one of their friends trying to explain

00:16:40.280 this i think it's because you're a lesbian one of my cis girlfriends said the guys there don't 0.99

00:16:44.980 approach you because they know you're gay maybe i thought but i didn't buy it the guys at these 0.95

00:16:50.740 so she's mad anna valence is mad that guys aren't hitting on her but she's a lesbian trans woman yes 1.00

00:16:59.980 she wants the validation there maybe i thought but i didn't buy it the guys at these parties weren't 0.67

00:17:08.060 super woke just the regular kind like you know faux woke pronouns in bio but two white claws and

00:17:14.920 they started acting strange having pronouns in your bio doesn't make you woke enough

00:17:20.040 okay if you liked what they saw they would have made it a little more obvious i kept hanging out

00:17:26.620 kept going to the party but now i was curious i paid a little closer attention started listening a

00:17:32.620 little more intensely to people's personal histories keeping track of who dated whom and how it went down

00:17:38.440 a pattern emerged a pattern that i shall now call the weave a party rule it pertains to guys dating

00:17:44.620 girls and girls dating guys and girls dating girls and all sorts of other things the order of the rules

00:17:52.200 formation the weave party rule first women mostly dated men two second if i brought a woman with me 1.00

00:18:00.440 they were guaranteed to get attention from somebody there usually men so what they're saying here is

00:18:05.980 first women mostly dated men and if a woman came who was new to the scene people would hit on her 1.00

00:18:10.640 and that's true of any scene if you bring a new woman men are going to hit on them okay but what's

00:18:15.320 interesting is if it was a trans woman they wouldn't hit on them third queer women were likely to check 1.00

00:18:21.720 out other women and gossip about being attracted to them ditto towards non-binary people fourth the

00:18:28.360 aforementioned rules only pertain to cis women in afab non-binary party goers fifth trans femmes 0.86

00:18:35.100 were welcome to engage in socializing but dating was off limits these rules are complicated

00:18:41.080 basically what she's saying is what everybody knows about women at parties if you are a a cis woman and

00:18:48.680 you go to a party men are going to hit on you but if you are a trans woman and you go to a party men are

00:18:53.180 not going to hit on you and this to her was shocking she didn't she couldn't get it that even

00:19:00.020 if you show up female presenting or at least attempting to be female presenting at a party

00:19:05.760 by default you are just going to be you know like like that lesbians are going to be in the same 1.00

00:19:11.920 dating market that you're in that if you hit on lesbians they're going to be into you or that 1.00

00:19:16.060 they're going to be into other but they weren't and this was really to the fact that they were shocked

00:19:22.360 by this shows that when they were given this product of transition do this and these problems

00:19:29.420 get fixed it was not said and no one will ever want to date you again he's not trans 1.00

00:19:35.720 but that was the that was the 10 that was what they were getting like your market value will be

00:19:43.080 significant you might be able to get somebody to date you he's not trans but they're going to be 0.99

00:19:47.180 significantly less attractive than who you would have gotten previously and that was clearly

00:19:53.060 something that came as a shock to them and this is why it's important to go into this so we can

00:19:57.380 better understand why we warn against this and where a lot of these self-validation spirals can land a

00:20:05.800 person even when they are relatively successful by this community's own standards the weeb party pieces

00:20:13.700 started coming together cis women at these parties were mostly interested in cis men their queer 0.70

00:20:18.640 desires were mostly reserved for cis women and non-binary people that they thought were afab so

00:20:24.640 what they're saying here is cis women who were bisexual were interested in women people who are

00:20:32.800 born women who may present as a little like gender whatever and cis women but they were not at all

00:20:40.020 interested in trans women even if they were also interested in men

00:20:43.680 yeah basically i'm into not trans people yeah and i can see why that would be shocking to somebody

00:20:51.920 who thought who doesn't understand yeah if you kind of look at it from a weird perspective it seems

00:20:57.380 unfair so you're into like both both but you're not into you're into men you're into women but you're not

00:21:04.940 into trans women and and what i'm pointing out here yeah that you're you're into each but not both

00:21:10.240 what's up with that well because from the perspective of a normal person you're just a mutilated person 1.00

00:21:19.380 like this is not you this is what i mean you're like somebody with too much plastic surgery like that's

00:21:23.780 the way that they see you even if they totally accept you is like that you're not like somebody who's

00:21:30.760 just choosing to present differently i and if you want to say well this is the result of their transphobia

00:21:36.640 well it's obviously not because if you remember the very first part of this article she was talking

00:21:43.360 about how she herself prefers cis women and at parties where there are both cis and trans women

00:21:49.500 almost all of the trans women preferred cis women so this is not a phenomenon of individuals with transphobia

00:21:57.160 this is a universal phenomenon you know because i you know went to silicon valley parties and stuff

00:22:03.040 like that and saw who got dates the guys who don't take hormones but sometimes dress in skirts and other

00:22:09.400 like gender non-conforming things they actually got dates okay the trans women did not and this is what 0.63

00:22:16.800 she's also talking about with the gender queer women who they saw as afab if you are a woman who just 0.99

00:22:22.900 dresses mannish or like a man but otherwise isn't going on hormones you will be highly desirable to 0.81

00:22:29.380 this type of person right i think because one shows the former where a guy just sometimes wears skirts

00:22:35.960 whatever maybe a little bit ambiguous that shows immense confidence um when you choose to undergo hormone

00:22:44.760 therapy or start identifying with different pronouns you are using appeals to authority and exogenous

00:22:52.160 interventions that actually communicates a huge lack of confidence and what is the sexiest thing in

00:22:59.940 the world confidence no you're right where the trans identity as represented by chemical transition 0.98

00:23:07.100 represents that i'm going to use our cultural norms to force you to see me in a certain way i can't

00:23:12.180 do this by myself that i i can't just dress like a woman when i want to dress like a woman or be

00:23:18.840 ambiguous i'm going to use i i'm not strong enough to do it by myself so i'm going to use societal norms

00:23:24.580 to enforce this and i'm going oh and or i'm going to use surgery and or chemicals to enforce this yeah

00:23:29.600 in chemical communities where people are putting like pronouns in their bios this is not a hostile

00:23:36.140 community right yeah sure and meanwhile men did not approach trans women for sex or dating

00:23:44.460 but men did approach cis women and non-binary afab people for sure and while cis women tended to

00:23:51.460 ogle other cis women and by extension force afab non-binary individuals into the cis women box 0.99

00:23:57.680 they didn't seem to have much interest with trans femmes 1.00

00:24:00.420 now this this is what this does say to me is if like one of our kids was like desperately like i want

00:24:09.640 to be trans i'd be like genuinely it seemed by the data if you just decide to be a cross-dresser you'll

00:24:14.580 have a better life like that's sort of what this is is suggesting here which is something that i had

00:24:21.700 seen but i didn't click for me before it was like all the cis men and women were interested in all other

00:24:30.180 cis women and cis men and anyone they perceived to be cis unconsciously oh no i thought to myself i don't

00:24:38.000 think i fit in i don't think i fit in at all and there's a picture of her where she's like

00:24:42.840 we party era anna was all about trying to look attractive and but dykey it was nice but not fully me either

00:24:50.500 when i first i feel really bad for her right like she's going to do this when i was reading this

00:24:56.540 awkward phases she just wants to be loved she just wants to be accepted she was promised

00:25:02.160 that's not exactly the same thing okay

00:25:07.420 still feel bad i want people to get what they think they're getting and i do think she was sold

00:25:15.080 the bill of false goods i think that she was lied to by society about what was going to happen when 0.61

00:25:21.000 she pursued this course of action oh no i completely agree i mean this is what you see with all of her

00:25:26.200 anger about her lewd tubing career not taking off with the agency is if you watch her other video on 0.97

00:25:32.420 it this whole thing that she started was at least in part over the fact that a lewd tubing agency 0.99

00:25:38.200 didn't want to hire trans lewd tubers because they said that nobody wants to watch them basically 1.00

00:25:43.440 which i guess just when you read this now it adds this whole other layer that this is this 0.95

00:25:48.880 huge thorn in her side this huge sore point of like oh great once again because i'm a trans woman 0.98

00:25:55.200 no one wants me yeah we're just snapping and then coming at well and because what you'll see at the

00:26:01.720 conclusion of this article is she says basically well i was wrong to try to to get cis women to like

00:26:09.220 me in this environment but now as a lewd tuber i have all of these cis women fans i mean i have finally 0.99

00:26:15.680 found a community that accepts me and what you realize is this being turned down by this community and

00:26:22.800 this community rejecting her i think was really horrifying to her because it it it reflected to

00:26:29.820 her that no this new community and as i said reading her blog is really sad because it's a bunch of

00:26:34.920 now i found a place where i fit in then three posts later i hate this group now here are the new

00:26:40.620 community i just found where i fit in and and what you realize is that you know this is one of the

00:26:47.200 things i often see with detransitioners because i i meet a lot of them at like heritage foundation 0.99

00:26:51.320 events and stuff like that is one of the things that they're most surprised about we have some

00:26:55.760 like detransitioners in our in our fan community as well and stuff like that and they they even like

00:26:59.540 list this in our bio is if they think that the community is gonna like jump on them or or have

00:27:05.020 some hostility to them if they're in like a conservative community at least within our type

00:27:09.080 like new right tech right conservative and i think you know when i talked to them they're like i am

00:27:13.240 surprised by how nice everyone here always is you know there is there is not and i think that that's

00:27:18.200 what they're realizing if they came from a community where they were constantly searching

00:27:21.720 for self-validation only to realize that the the only community that's really going to you know

00:27:28.220 validate you for who you are is going to be the tech right um unless you're like a very specific thing

00:27:36.700 and and and unfortunately the the trans woman is not something that's going to get you the validation

00:27:42.760 that you want so when i first moved to and this is the other thing i note about like heritage

00:27:48.020 foundation events there are trans people there who like just started detransitioning like they look 1.00

00:27:54.100 like trans people it is not that they are being treated nicely because they don't look like trans 1.00

00:27:59.140 people they look like trans people but like if i'm at a heritage foundation event and i see somebody

00:28:04.280 who looks trans i immediately am like okay but like this took a lot of bravery to come here

00:28:12.480 and everyone there is going to know that except for you know at the natal con there was like one

00:28:19.260 homophobic guy which really annoyed me that treated like some of the gay people poorly but but whatever

00:28:23.460 like you can't you can't place everything but i think you can't control i mean since it was a more

00:28:29.220 open event you can't control some yeah comes to your thing when i first moved to nyc 2016 to 2020

00:28:37.900 i was in a brooklyn trans girl community made up of writers and musicians and other creators

00:28:43.380 a twinkie thin irish blonde girl with curves in all the right places yeah my first four years in brooklyn 0.94

00:28:49.680 were busy a revolving door of sexual partners one after another threesomes couple swaps sex parties 0.97

00:28:56.820 t girls effing me to compare notes with other t girls the first time awful god right this is good

00:29:05.860 these are the happy times for her these are the happy times she moved to new york 2016 to 2020 0.98

00:29:11.640 and she was passed around because she had just become a woman and she now was sexually promiscuous 1.00

00:29:18.660 but it was mostly t girls but also you're getting this understanding of when she was younger and trans

00:29:24.880 her youth allowed her to get through some of this and created the illusion for her that she would

00:29:32.080 still get oh no so she's not only she's not only a trans woman she's a trans woman who has hit the 0.96

00:29:38.620 wall this is a post 30 trans woman oh no okay that's really rough yes you're dedicated that i mean like

00:29:47.800 and i think men really don't think about the wall as well so like here's this whole thing that they

00:29:53.160 were never prepared for they haven't been trained for this yeah no they haven't been trained for this

00:29:57.820 a lot of women have like some understanding that it's coming up with you know at least the you know 1.00

00:30:02.980 old maid and you know yeah i think a lot of trans women and that's a great point don't have an 1.00

00:30:08.280 understanding that because men grow up with the understanding that their value is only going to

00:30:12.040 appreciate as they get older and i think that's very deep in people yeah you're just like okay by

00:30:16.640 default i'm it's okay it's only gonna get better whereas women are like well by default people are 1.00

00:30:20.700 gonna start seeing me as a cat lady or old maid or whatever and like i think that you know there's

00:30:24.860 just so much stuff going on when you transition that you're not going to remember that like oh by the

00:30:28.700 way i also have to deal with this different framework i'm gonna hit the wall don't like

00:30:32.780 become women until they're like 23 so they get more like seven years of being attractive or less 0.99

00:30:38.440 oh that's rough transition oh and then yeah no one wants you if you're a trans woman or a cis woman

00:30:44.940 yeah that is like the worst time to transition because you get like a few years of being and and

00:30:51.360 you can see that this is what she defined as a good life this is why i'm talking about being when i say

00:30:56.180 a cinebite this is an individual who had another blog post talked about how she learned how to deal

00:31:02.420 with pain because she was with a partner who really liked hitting her in the face and that was like her

00:31:06.420 thing her dom really and she hit her so hard she taught her new ways to deal with pain so like

00:31:11.640 actually a cinebite like this is you know yes yes so she then goes also i guess she didn't get

00:31:18.920 work done i feel like most trans women i think she just did hormones to do the top okay because 1.00

00:31:24.660 like if you got work done man like no one's hitting it like you know don't come for my weave don't touch 0.77

00:31:28.640 my like nose job like well i think that this is it's like what type of lesbian cis lesbian is she able 1.00

00:31:35.320 to get to date her the type who just wants to punch her in the face ah this is so rough this is so 0.70

00:31:41.560 rough no it is it is sad and it is rough and that is why i am reading it because i think that people

00:31:47.680 need to know if if look if you start with i just moved to brooklyn and i'll read this again because

00:31:56.200 i think this lifestyle is what she thought would be forever not for four years a twinkie finnish blonde 0.97

00:32:04.400 girl with curves in all the right places yeah my first four years in new york were busy a revolving 0.98

00:32:09.920 door of sexual partners one after another threesomes couple swaps sex parties t girls effing 1.00

00:32:15.920 me to compare notes with other t girls for the first time i don't want someone to like have sex 0.98

00:32:22.020 with me to compare their experience having sex with me with other people i can't i can't even i can't 0.93

00:32:26.660 even think about like you comparing sex with me with other people like makes me so like like right

00:32:32.880 how can she like why does she want this why does she want this for the first time in my life i felt hot

00:32:38.000 attractive sexual and not just sexually appealing but sexually appealing to other women so what she's

00:32:43.620 saying here why does she want it because she wanted the affirmation yeah i guess because she assumed

00:32:48.980 people would compare her favorably yeah she wanted affirmation she was doing all of this for

00:32:56.220 affirmation it's very clear and she thought that this affirmation wasn't a spigot with a very small

00:33:02.400 iv bag attached to it yes other trans women more specifically but i assumed there wasn't much of a 0.97

00:33:09.280 difference between cis women and trans women when it came to openly expressing clear queer attraction

00:33:14.200 so the point she's making here is at first when she was doing the sleeping all around the only people

00:33:18.700 who were sleeping with her were trans women and she just assumed that that was just coincidence

00:33:23.300 she'd eventually find the cis woman who liked her the fun had to end eventually 2020 loomed and being

00:33:31.940 ogled by other trans girls had worn out its welcome i was tight casted as the hot journalist tea girl 0.90

00:33:37.500 and i felt trapped in a setting where sexual availability was expected for me confused oddly 0.76

00:33:43.400 unsatisfied was most of the sex i was having so again the sex wasn't even good right she was just 1.00

00:33:48.440 doing it and she got validation from it and eventually she reflected wait this isn't good

00:33:54.440 sex why am i doing this right and i think that the truth of this and we've talked about this before is

00:34:00.280 sex isn't actually that good it is something that's mythologized by our society especially the far left

00:34:05.740 but i think the healthiest way to view sex is it's just you know something you do to make kids

00:34:10.160 and it's fun especially when you're young you'll feel a lot of compulsion to do it but it's never more

00:34:15.620 than a compulsion you know i didn't so so then she goes i didn't know what to do was i ace

00:34:23.160 increasingly i was questioning whether i was ace and i think this is why a lot of trans girls and i

00:34:28.160 see this repeatedly end up identifying as ace later it's not because they're actually ace it's just

00:34:33.120 because they tried the debauchery they tried the cinebite lifestyle and then the only way to reclaim 1.00

00:34:40.120 normality after they had done that to themselves was to adopt an ace identity so then they say it was

00:34:44.940 clear i needed to take a sexual break when i made the switch to weeb party friends i took it on spec

00:34:51.220 that they were far less sexual the opposite of a t for t space a space where i was integrating with

00:34:56.760 more cisgender people on purpose to become familiar with life outside of the community that the trans

00:35:02.260 community socially mature a curated friend circle of working professionals where everyone kept it in

00:35:07.860 their pants we were all either in our 30s or hitting our 30s it felt like a great landing spot 0.98

00:35:12.840 for my slutty 20s i mean i wanted to take a break from sucking and effing so i chose a place that 0.99

00:35:19.140 seemed relatively tame but i think i drew on an assumption based on s-ing and effing sucking and 0.98

00:35:25.300 effing available to me at the time i paid closer attention i realized i was having an asexual social

00:35:32.220 experience but others were not oh no so she thought she found her pure her pure living she thought

00:35:41.040 trans community where i was being passed around as new meat and i thought okay well now i'll integrate

00:35:48.660 with this community as a woman oh they don't actually see me as a woman even though they are far far lefties

00:35:55.560 um a not into trannies she says quote i assume most trans women have read them's 2018 article

00:36:04.240 on discrimination against transgender people and dating what i just can't get over is calling this

00:36:09.520 preference discrimination where she enters this article saying that both her and almost every

00:36:16.240 other trans woman she knows prefers to date cis women to trans women according to the study in the

00:36:22.240 journal of social and personal relations just a mere 12 of the 958 surveyed said they would be open

00:36:28.160 to dating a transgender man or a transgender woman nearly half of all queer and non-binary

00:36:32.400 participants were exclusionary towards trans partners as were 71 of lesbian women between trans men

00:36:38.960 and trans women the latter were more likely to face rejection from the dating pool now basically it's

00:36:45.720 not as bad to be a trans man as it is to be a trans woman was in the dating pool and this graph that

00:36:51.240 she shared i hadn't seen it before it's really interesting actually so if you're a hetero man

00:36:56.320 you're looking at like two percent of hetero man will consider dating a trans person and the majority

00:37:03.280 of those it's trans men basically they're like yeah i know they're saying they're a man but i don't 0.97

00:37:08.700 believe it and then the minority is trans women almost no hetero men are into trans men then if you look

00:37:13.920 at hetero women okay literally none are into trans women you you do not see apparently a single hetero

00:37:22.580 woman in this this is because they're hetero women but a few were into trans men which is interesting

00:37:29.800 wait a few hetero women were into women who now identified as men but oh okay sure yeah that makes 0.90

00:37:37.820 sense yeah okay gay men okay uh a a like i'd say like seven percent chunk of gay men are into trans

00:37:47.040 men none are into trans women okay but that's actually big that's the mr slave and mr garrison 0.97

00:37:54.000 dynamic where mr garrison transitions and mr slave is like what why would you do this to me i'm a gay man

00:38:01.280 i'm into men and mr garrison assumed when he transitioned that mr slave would still be into

00:38:07.640 him but mr slave was not still into him gay men of all groups even more than hetero men find trans 0.62

00:38:15.500 women or men who identify as women gross that really surprised me by this yeah that's yeah i think it 0.86

00:38:24.420 also i guess implies a heavier interest not just in male primary sexual characteristics but male 0.85

00:38:33.720 secondary characteristics yeah and then with lesbian women again here you see the vast minority being 1.00

00:38:39.820 into this but again you see more lesbian women being into women who believe they're men than being 0.92

00:38:46.120 into men who believe they're women sure yeah and i i also think that like before it was super common 0.75

00:38:53.280 just to be transsexual it was fairly common just to be like a very butch woman so this is you know 1.00

00:38:59.460 it makes sense but the point i'm making here is even lesbians and gays do not by this data at least 0.61

00:39:06.140 biologically or by their arousal patterns see trans women as women or trans yeah but it's it's funny 1.00

00:39:12.740 that trans men like get a free pass in a bunch of scenarios so yeah let's say we're there were roughly

00:39:22.000 50 people at a weed party gathering from 2021 through 2024 these are big yeah that's a big party

00:39:28.880 right very little change in the social climate was in the millennial friend group across those three

00:39:34.060 years let's also estimate four party goers at all events were lesbians and five were queer based on 0.77

00:39:41.000 the 2018 study while attending the weed party six people in total were open to dating a trans person

00:39:47.140 only two or three queer people were open to dating a trans person and only one or two lesbians were

00:39:54.480 open to dating a trans person if one of those six open to dating a trans person one of those two to

00:40:00.060 three queer people are one of those one to two lesbians no wonder why i was feeling left out look 0.97

00:40:05.040 how small my dating pool was most of the lesbians were statistically unlikely to be interested in me 1.00

00:40:09.880 and a good chunk of queer folks would have passed on me as well even if i was open to dating men

00:40:15.520 44 people would have said no to being was a trans person statistically speaking i was in a social

00:40:21.680 climate where i was surrounded by cis people who looked me over and said not into trannies when 0.95

00:40:27.380 faced was the real thing they'd rather leave the dick girl fantasy to futanori hentai and here i point 0.89

00:40:34.520 out if you had read our pragmatist guide to sexuality we did a big study on people into futa the reason why men 0.93

00:40:39.860 are into futa is because or some men are at least is these are men who want porn without any other men

00:40:45.800 in it because historically speaking you know a man who was okay was watching another man have sex with 0.52

00:40:50.860 a girl he was interested in had fewer surviving offspring and so a lot of men prefer only female 0.90

00:40:56.940 female porn but then they still want to see piv sex and that's what futa porn is it is literally the 0.93

00:41:02.880 antithesis of trans porn okay and we asked in our survey of the people who are interested in futa porn 0.95

00:41:09.360 how many of them were interested in trans porn and none of them were the highest correlation was 0.93

00:41:13.960 trans porn was bestiality and monsters which means these are people who see they whatever the part of 0.97

00:41:20.940 their body that turns off stimuli like oh i'm going to get a disgust reaction from something that's 0.97

00:41:25.760 clearly non-human this is a outputting an abnormal sort of like comfort with body modification or stuff

00:41:32.200 that is unnatural yeah yeah and i don't think that they realize that this is the way they are being

00:41:37.660 interpreted by people well because i think also they're being lied to just the way that you know

00:41:41.620 women in their 30s and 40s are being lied to about cosmetic procedures that allegedly make them young

00:41:47.720 that this you know this will make you look younger and this you know this will make you look like a

00:41:53.280 woman and people don't realize that no this this makes you look like an approximation of a characteristic 1.00

00:42:00.660 held by this audience but it is it is by no stretch of the imagination making you that audience and i think

00:42:06.700 both with trans women and with the body modification crowd a lot of them are myth-led about how much

00:42:14.640 they're going to pass by the amount of filters that famous trans women use on the social media posts 1.00

00:42:22.120 that they're consuming of these individuals so these individuals are having you know post-transition

00:42:25.960 euphoria they're posting a bunch of of modified pictures that make them look more like a woman than 1.00

00:42:32.960 they would in person a bunch of filters that's also so easy i mean i can look more like a woman 0.98

00:42:37.880 with filters you know like yeah we can all look so good so there is a tragedy on the other side of this

00:42:44.520 yeah yeah you turn off the filter compare that well no because then they go into this and they're like

00:42:49.940 oh dylan milvaney look they passed it's like no dylan milvaney doesn't pass like if you see

00:42:54.740 dylan milvaney in person this is an individual it doesn't even come close to passing and this is

00:42:59.740 like the very best of what you can hope for within the trans community it's tough it's very selective 0.99

00:43:04.960 angles and all that yeah good lighting yeah and and even if you do you know you might be able to

00:43:12.540 hook up with a guy who's just interested in sleeping with someone for the night well and also like i think

00:43:16.780 yeah the other problem though is that we we've entered an age in which margot robbie is considered mid

00:43:22.740 like it's also difficult even as a cis woman to be seen as attractive so yeah like how do you think

00:43:29.300 that as as someone with so many things running against you one she's over 32 she wasn't born a

00:43:35.040 woman you know three you know even as a man she's not well this is why i'm i've moved against the idea

00:43:44.460 of trans maxing or transitioning if you're like an unattractive guy just to get some partners or to get 1.00

00:43:48.660 something well honestly though there are there are some types of of male presentation that just

00:43:53.280 they can pull off women if you are east asian if you are east asian none of this applies that's what's 0.85

00:43:58.320 so screwed up is that like there are 100 trans people out there and not just east asian like 0.90

00:44:03.820 they're all also all colors of a whatever ethnic rainbow that look way better than the vast majority 1.00

00:44:10.100 of when women they're like sevens eights nines and tens so i have never seen a white trans person 0.94

00:44:16.400 fall into that category have you one think a black trans woman have you ever seen a black trans

00:44:21.320 woman who falls into that category yes yeah absolutely yeah really yeah yeah okay so compare 0.90

00:44:27.240 that to an out and proud kinkster someone who is pretty upfront about her interest in bdsm and 1.00

00:44:32.080 prefers open relationships for that reason so she wants a lesbian partner who is into bdsm and open to 1.00

00:44:37.900 having an open relationship a rather alternative lifestyle you know being a sex working sex journalist 0.86

00:44:44.500 so she's also a sex worker someone who speaks her mind pretty old journalist like you know if 1.00

00:44:49.760 anna velins was super wealthy again this none of this would be a problem someone who probably 0.92

00:44:55.240 didn't f with my personality or maybe i wasn't their type physically and yes for the record i did know

00:45:01.660 some people who thought i was attractive within that group too it didn't necessarily mean no they just

00:45:06.500 said it to be nice this is what she doesn't understand it doesn't necessarily mean they would date

00:45:10.580 it just means i bumped into one of the other five people who would be open to going out as a trans

00:45:15.920 person that's the problem though six people being open to date a trans person does not mean five

00:45:21.740 potential partners you may not be into those five people or they might not have chemistry with you

00:45:26.920 but or the circumstances may not be right they might be partnered they might be uninterested in sex or

00:45:32.180 dating at that time or your sexual orientation may be incompatible in other words not all of my

00:45:37.480 experiences that the weed party can be framed to my gender identity but when cishet leaning

00:45:42.600 dating patterns emerge and trans women seem to receive significantly less attention than their

00:45:48.020 cisgendered equivalents or cisgendered men yeah it's hard to believe that's a space where trans women

00:45:54.000 are truly treated as equals this planted the seed in me that grew over the last year and a half

00:45:58.660 finally one day it ruptured i realized the weed party friend group had an undercurrent of

00:46:03.300 trans misogyny was in it that had gone unaddressed oh my god this person is just like a bomb waiting

00:46:09.340 to go off with this is my first time hearing about trans misogyny very interesting i looked for it and

00:46:15.320 i found it my experience with this dating pool our lack thereof is one reflection of that so people

00:46:21.440 weren't interested in you therefore they're all evil that's your takeaway from this no self-reflection

00:46:26.880 no oh they're not interested in the way you look or oh this isn't something they're into give 0.99

00:46:31.900 you and you didn't even have bottom surgery and you're trying to get lesbians to sleep with you 1.00

00:46:36.760 you and now you're going for the classic it's therefore suck my girl d and like it like this is why 1.00

00:46:45.300 people have turned against yeah this is this is why jk rowling is fighting the fight because when we 0.99

00:46:51.620 first and i first was very pro-trans when i bought into this i thought it was about you wanting

00:46:57.120 to be accepted and this community accepted you yeah uncategorically there there's been no accusation

00:47:03.640 made in any of this content that no yeah what she's mad about is that she cannot force lesbians 1.00

00:47:09.480 to sleep with her or force them to be attracted to her no it's it's not it's not even it's she's not

00:47:14.820 being coercive in any of this she's just insulted that none of them are coming up to her no hold on

00:47:20.580 listen to this okay okay day it ruptured i realized wade guardy party friend group had an

00:47:26.660 undercurrent of trans misogyny was in it that had gone unaddressed okay what does it mean to address 0.58

00:47:33.040 this what it means to address this is that people date her who aren't dating her now people have sex

00:47:39.100 with her who aren't having or not even date her because she only does open relationships 0.87

00:47:42.320 addressing the trans misogyny she's talking about means people have sex with her who don't want to 0.75

00:47:49.160 have sex with her that's what she's talking about she might be using colorful language to hide that 1.00

00:47:55.040 that's what she's talking about but that is the only way because it is not that she wants more 1.00

00:47:59.800 acceptance from the group she wants lesbians in this group to have sex with her because again she 1.00

00:48:04.740 said multiple times that is the only people who she finds attractive yeah but i don't think she wants 0.98

00:48:08.840 to coerce well okay there's other things that she's written that implies that she really likes

00:48:13.000 non-consent but she doesn't write anywhere in here that she she actually seems to want people to 1.00

00:48:19.760 make the first move and approach right but this is what you're missing sanon okay she went to the

00:48:25.760 community voluntarily people in the community did not want to make the first move yeah they didn't

00:48:31.340 yes this goes unaddressed she means she wants to be able to force them to make the forced move 1.00

00:48:38.600 whether that is using cultural pressure or whether that is i mean basically she's saying i want to set

00:48:43.460 up a cultural pressure apparatus where lesbians in this community will feel uncomfortable not hitting 1.00

00:48:49.020 on me or not making a move for me that's what she wants to happen and we see this in many trans 0.99

00:48:56.120 spaces where when a lesbian says i'm not interested in dating trans women they are attacked

00:49:00.440 this is a a form of violence that has happened multiple times at gay bars and stuff like that like

00:49:07.020 this is a real phenomenon so it's not like i'm pulling this like five degrees of freedom from

00:49:12.480 this this is what she wants that's rough so what i like here is this whole thing makes me depressed

00:49:20.180 to read then i get to that line and i'm like oh you are a vile person like that is that is where i'm

00:49:26.060 like i yeah yeah you are you you deserve everything and i don't think you started deserving everything

00:49:31.880 but we choose who we are you know we choose when we victimize other populations we choose when we 0.80

00:49:37.120 victimize other groups and you chose to not be okay with being accepted you wanted forced sex 0.85

00:49:45.060 or or sex that other people didn't want you wanted them to feel uncomfortable not wanting to have sex 0.81

00:49:50.720 with you i felt disillusioned and alienated after this conclusion so i decided to take stock i looked in

00:49:57.160 the mirror and asked well what was i getting out of weed party if not sex so friendship camaraderie

00:50:03.920 everything like that that wasn't what she wanted she was there for sex is basically what it was 0.98

00:50:08.480 and that's really sad you know she then writes something broke was in me what was the point of all this what

00:50:15.640 was i doing here why did i keep hanging out when i wasn't really wanted the last party i went to i wore

00:50:21.200 a dress for the first time in a very long time i traded in slacks and jeans for something pretty

00:50:26.740 something form fitting pretty feminine no one noticed no one complimented me and to think just

00:50:33.180 you expect that they're going to go out and compliment you you expect that they're going to

00:50:36.760 notice you right it has literally been maybe a year maybe more than a year maybe half a decade

00:50:43.340 since somebody as a man complimented the way that i dressed now maybe this is a sign that i just

00:50:48.700 dressed terribly but i just don't think that this is something that normal people expect and i think

00:50:53.880 that this shows the self-centeredness of this individual that they expect they wear something

00:50:58.580 unique on one day they're going to get complimented at the very most this is something you might expect

00:51:04.220 of a dedicated partner who pays attention to the way you dress every day but that's something that 0.86

00:51:09.420 your lifestyle precludes given that you only enter open relationships a damn broke was in me i wasn't being 0.71

00:51:17.040 respected that's what was going on and well if the world wasn't going to treat me with respect i

00:51:22.540 wouldn't treat it with respect either i began adopting what i like to call neat core hobbies sweat

00:51:29.700 pants anime t-shirts whatever makes me feel comfy when i go out an expression of anti a fashion that

00:51:36.700 isn't fashionable a statement that i appear as myself and prioritize my comfort over the preferences of

00:51:42.020 anyone else i can dress nicely again when i want to dress nicely for me right now i want to dress like

00:51:48.080 i can just get out of bed that means anime tees baggy sweatpants and vans it's funny reinventing

00:51:54.960 yourself is not very glamorous the true me is a frumpy and agoraphobic she says stays home and plays

00:52:01.700 deadlock all day and pretends to be a giant anime girl over the internet she plays a giantess in her 1.00

00:52:08.020 whatever videos to my utter bewilderment this is considered very attractive to a white assortment 0.97

00:52:14.060 of people playing a giantess on the internet cis women trans women non-binary people i sometimes feel

00:52:18.920 myself laying in bed all day erping with multiple play partners across 24 hours it's like catching up

00:52:24.980 with a long lost time at weed party quite literally i've had more cis partners in the past three years

00:52:31.380 than the four before that but here's the problem oh so she she gave up and now it's working for her 1.00

00:52:37.020 no what she did is she gave up and now she does horny online content okay she says oh well now that 0.62

00:52:46.160 i'm doing like lewd tubing content i have found my community because all these cis women watch me 1.00

00:52:52.280 and i'm like how are you verifying that these are cis women people on the internet lie that's like the

00:52:58.380 point of your you know going to the internet to receive sexual gratification that is one of the

00:53:03.180 the oldest the oldest rule of the internet is there are no women on the internet and by this what they 1.00

00:53:07.920 mean is there in the cd you know sex pest parts of the internet the reason why you get so few women 1.00

00:53:14.240 within those communities is not just because women are into those things less but a woman is they often 1.00

00:53:20.860 get such an arbitrage opportunity was in real life partnerships that they have no need to explore this

00:53:28.080 online what this person is clearly engaging with is men who are pretending to be women and they are so

00:53:34.980 desperate for affirmation that they are willing to believe that this is real and then here is where

00:53:41.920 it begins to get really creepy in other words my experiences was being ignored and overlooked in the

00:53:46.980 dating space reflected negative experiences i had with cis millennials who wanted to reject me for my gender

00:53:52.140 identity but couldn't a common theme in 2010 something i experienced recently in 2020 this led me to

00:53:58.540 believe it may be a problem generationally with how millennials cis women perceive trans women on average

00:54:05.360 gen z has treated me better than millennials i don't just mean that gen z adults are more open to sex with

00:54:12.500 trans women than their millennial counterparts i mean that gen z cis women treat me as if i am equal to them

00:54:18.200 while millennials are more likely to treat me like a third sex woman a massive amount of gen zers view

00:54:24.320 trans women as women they have accepted transness just as another aspect a woman may have this results

00:54:31.940 in not just a lot of positive experiences with gen z queer women in my sexual and dating life

00:54:37.940 but affirming experiences even when conflict happens it never feels like my transness is at play when

00:54:43.840 there's a fight it just feels like we're two equals figuring things out i love how this

00:54:48.100 person just sort of tells on themselves of how miserable it is to date them talking about fights

00:54:53.120 in relationships as if they're normal things it is like for example it's not just that simone and i

00:54:59.320 almost never have fights like maybe one every three years but i would even say of my past relationships

00:55:05.820 i probably only got in a fight with a partner and one out of every four or five people i dated

00:55:13.140 fights are not a normal part of a relationship and by fight here i mean any sort of emotionally

00:55:19.220 heated disagreement i'm curious if there's a huge gap between dating preferences for millennials and

00:55:24.740 dating preferences for gen z moving from a t4t space to a c4c one was an immense form of psychological 0.99

00:55:31.560 whiplash but moving from a weeb party collection of cis and trans friends to friends sexually interested

00:55:37.300 me that gave me whiplash and it solidified my feeling that weed party vibe is not a right fit

00:55:42.120 for me so who are gen z this is an individual who's in her mid-30s there are people between 13 and 28

00:55:48.880 this is somebody who has admitted to doing a lot of age play stuff this is somebody who has admitted

00:55:55.460 to having problems is desiring underage content in the past and basically their big realization is

00:56:01.820 well if i groom children then it all works out for me in the end and i think that that's

00:56:07.340 horrifying into this particular tale oh no i mean the power dynamics at play here

00:56:15.160 okay wow it's got dark yeah this this is really dark this is really sad and i think it's important to

00:56:25.520 go into because we only hear about the euphoria we only hear about the beginning or we hear about

00:56:32.380 the people detransitioning and how bad it got for them but if there's somebody who is presumably living

00:56:37.740 the best life you can as a trans person this is what it is this is what that best life is and it's a sad

00:56:45.660 sad world it's a world where you descend into a hikikomori where you attack random vtubers because 0.55

00:56:55.240 you're mad that they're more famous than you where your only source of validation comes from men

00:57:00.800 pretending to be women and and young kids yeah that's it's a rough it's a rough experience

00:57:07.080 not a pathway we would recommend for our children well and this is this is why i think you know you

00:57:13.140 want to get kids out of this this is what you need to show them you don't show them oh somebody

00:57:18.820 freaking out oh somebody who's being like aggressively mean about all this it's like this this

00:57:24.280 this is the end of the rainbow yeah you're gonna hit the wall you're not gonna get the validation

00:57:30.240 you're hoping to get you're being love bombed now and then everyone's gonna forget about you

00:57:35.540 everyone's gonna be nice and be creeped out by you what's the other side of sucking it up what's the 0.82

00:57:41.160 other side of sucking it up okay you get a family you get kids you you you can create a job where

00:57:48.900 you're contributing to the world rather than attacking random people online

00:57:52.180 they're forcing you you you know that there are so many things like that you said you you can

00:58:00.720 be he going to hold it is

00:58:01.640 against the government

00:58:02.520 against the shelter

00:58:03.760 beginning

00:58:05.520 up

00:58:07.020 you

00:58:07.580 quedar

00:58:09.000 you

00:58:10.120 her

00:58:10.700 he

00:58:12.220 Thank you.

00:58:42.220 Thank you.

00:59:12.220 Thank you.

00:59:42.220 Oh, you suck it up for a few years and you get something that's kind of good or you get something that the other side of this is amazing.

00:59:49.060 And we are fighting not against people like Anna Valens. We are fighting for people like Anna Valens before this ideology got its hooks and hurt.

01:00:00.760 You were an interesting study. Lust, greed, deception, fertile ground, but rather mundane.

01:00:07.940 Yeah, we want the person that became who Anna Valens is today to have experienced the alternate fun. 0.98

01:00:16.580 So, you know, in 10 years, that person could be walking home to their home and wife and have, you know, 10 kids jump on them.

01:00:24.020 Or maybe they don't want 10 kids, but like, I don't know. I feel like if she wanted, you know, a single childless life that was just focused on having fun, there were much better ways to do that.

01:00:36.960 I think the problem, though, is if you're incredibly hungry for validation.

01:00:40.800 This is an easy trap. But what do you do if what you really want is validation?

01:00:47.160 What is the best path for a man, a natal male? 1.00

01:00:52.820 I think being hungry for validation is in itself a sin.

01:00:59.660 You know, if you can build.

01:01:01.880 What if that's your objective function?

01:01:03.440 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Build a better objective function. It's a bad objective function.

01:01:07.500 It's an objective function that's not different from negative utilitarianism or something like you.

01:01:11.360 What you need to do is think through what really matters in life, because the amount that other people validate you

01:01:16.660 is obviously not a thing of intrinsic value.

01:01:18.620 So you're just going to say validation is a false god. Don't do it.

01:01:21.460 Yeah. If you live your entire life dedicated to that, you become a Cenobite. 0.99

01:01:24.700 That is what makes Cenobites, is living a life dedicated to self-validation.

01:01:31.680 Yeah. It could also be one of those Chinese finger trap things. 0.98

01:01:35.720 You'll never get it when you're trying to get it.

01:01:37.660 You'll get it if you do a great job at other things.

01:01:41.680 Yeah.

01:01:41.940 You can't seek it out. If you're seeking it out, you're never going to get it.

01:01:45.680 So you might as well just not try and just do something else that's meaningful.

01:01:51.720 But I appreciate the cautionary tale. This is an episode we can save for our kids.

01:01:57.680 Stinkies are getting a little curious because all the outside fringe stuff is super fun.

01:02:05.620 Drag shows are super fun.

01:02:07.320 Like in general, like...

01:02:08.380 Drag shows are, again, what I'm saying you should do. 0.99

01:02:10.300 If you have these desires, do drag shows occasionally, right?

01:02:14.000 You know, one of the points I'm making is drag, ironically, was not that emotionally unhealthy, you know?

01:02:21.160 Yeah, totally.

01:02:21.880 It's very creative. It's very fun.

01:02:24.420 It's very talent-driven.

01:02:27.360 And then have the family and focus on that.

01:02:30.840 You know, historically, the vast majority of people who did drag were cis men.

01:02:37.120 Yeah.

01:02:38.120 Yeah.

01:02:38.620 Which is fine. Like, I don't care.

01:02:40.240 Well, and as we pointed out with this individual, I mean, we know why this individual is trans because she writes about it all the time.

01:02:45.720 She has a feminization kink. 1.00

01:02:47.680 She gets turned on by the idea of a man being turned into a woman. 0.96

01:02:51.160 There were plenty of ways to engage with that without transitioning. 0.93

01:02:54.460 And I think that that's the other sad thing.

01:02:56.620 As they've expanded the tent for what qualifies for transition, they begin offering transition as a solution to people who this is not going to help.

01:03:05.380 If you're transitioning because of a sexual kink, that's not going to lead you to having a good life. 1.00

01:03:11.120 Yeah.

01:03:11.740 Yeah.

01:03:12.320 All right.

01:03:13.000 Love you to death, Simone.

01:03:13.860 I've already ate a pretty big lunch, so I don't really mind whatever you want to do for dinner for my dad.

01:03:19.400 Where did you get lunch?

01:03:21.340 We went to a new restaurant, Lock 20.

01:03:23.940 It's the restaurant right before the bridge going into Phoenixville.

01:03:27.640 And I thought it would have, like, a pretty, like, the burger was good, but it was, like, way too expensive.

01:03:33.200 I ended up in the future.

01:03:33.960 No, I was going to make burgers tonight.

01:03:37.120 What should I do?

01:03:38.640 Well, you can ask my dad what he wants.

01:03:40.300 I know, but it's not like I just have a fully stocked pantry of any ingredients.

01:03:45.100 Okay, let me word this differently.

01:03:46.980 You can ask him does he want a burger or pasta with pasto, because you made some pasto sauce a while ago, and that's really easy to make.

01:03:55.360 Paisal pasto, yeah.

01:03:57.560 Or more pasta with meat sauce.

01:04:00.820 Or meatballs, or...

01:04:03.480 Okay, I will ask him.

01:04:05.600 We shall get answers.

01:04:07.400 I love you very much.

01:04:08.500 I love you, too, very much.

01:04:11.300 All right, go down, get my dad, and thank you for doing this episode.

01:04:14.440 Interesting episode, right?

01:04:15.440 I found this to be really fascinating.

01:04:17.160 No, this was good.

01:04:18.400 I've never really done a deep dive on such an unfiltered tale of the other side of transition.

01:04:25.240 I mean, you see a lot of trans influencers showing the highlights reels of their lives,

01:04:30.740 and also presenting highly curated social commentary, and they look fantastic, and you're like, this is, wow, like, they're thriving.

01:04:39.320 And this is, I think, you know, to a fault, Anna Valens has been extremely open about everything she is thinking and doing.

01:04:48.420 But it's been very helpful because you're seeing, again, the very unfiltered element of it.

01:04:56.080 Yeah, and it's also interesting to me because, you know, we're about the same age and everything like that.

01:05:00.320 Like, we're not, like, that dissimilar in our starting point, Anna Valens and us, right?

01:05:04.380 You know, and that, you know, we made different positions, and I think nobody, I don't think any, even the biggest centibite is going to look at the differences between our two lives

01:05:15.060 and say that her life is in any way desirable when contrasted with our life.

01:05:21.960 I don't care who you are.

01:05:24.140 Anyone's going to be like, wow, Malcolm and Simone have a really good life.

01:05:28.120 No, no, no, no.

01:05:28.840 I know from the hate comments that we get that I read that people think we live very miserable lives and that we are in a loveless marriage.

01:05:37.620 No, they hope we live miserable lives because they hate that it's obvious that's not true.

01:05:44.700 I don't know.

01:05:45.400 I think that a lot of people have normalized to people really faking it online, and they don't realize that we're, like, this is just, this is just us.

01:05:54.360 Just doing our thing.

01:05:55.660 There's not, like, a hidden behind this.

01:05:58.840 Experience, but whatever.

01:06:00.840 Yeah, but I do appreciate your covering this.

01:06:02.660 It was, like, what more could possibly be covered by, you know, your post-antevalence analysis, but this was sad, but interesting.

01:06:12.340 So thank you, Malcolm, and I love you.

01:06:13.820 Love you to death, Simone.

01:06:18.500 Okay, there it goes.

01:06:19.780 I really miss talking with you.

01:06:21.080 This is so nice.

01:06:21.820 I needed this so bad.

01:06:24.580 Well, I love you to death.

01:06:25.820 You've done a great job today.

01:06:27.100 You've been on top of everything, and I'm really proud of you.

01:06:30.600 I feel like I'm failing at everything, but I think that's also a very female thing.

01:06:35.900 So I should discount it.

01:06:36.580 You yesterday found out the kid is still healthy, okay?

01:06:39.360 Yeah.

01:06:39.860 That's the biggest thing that you're doing right now is bringing another human into this world.

01:06:43.660 The school system is doing well.

01:06:46.720 We've provided very good recent feedback on it.

01:06:49.560 The Whistling app is better than ever for people who don't know about this project.

01:06:52.960 It's to create a chatbot that can talk with our kids and constantly brings the conversation back to educational topics.

01:06:59.420 If you want to check it out, check out whistling.ai.

01:07:02.000 That's spelled with a Z.

01:07:03.260 It's a great product.

01:07:04.560 It's free for now.

01:07:05.460 We don't even have a system for charging you to use it, so feel free to screw us over.

01:07:09.080 Yeah, you can probably can.

01:07:09.820 I mean, not that we're going to charge you what we're going to charge you as we possibly can, but I am so excited about it.

01:07:16.040 I'm so excited about it.

01:07:17.760 All right.

01:07:19.220 And the game system is doing really well.

01:07:21.220 We're about to get to the first stable demo.

01:07:24.200 We had a practice demo up for a while.

01:07:26.180 You can check this out at rfab.ai if you want to get on a wish list for this or something.

01:07:30.220 We're trying to create virtual worlds using AI.

01:07:33.920 It's weird how many things we're doing.

01:07:35.220 It's like, oh, we'll just do everything.

01:07:36.780 You have way too much main character energy.

01:07:38.440 You're just like, well, if no one else is doing it, I guess I'll fix it.

01:07:41.760 I'll make it.

01:07:42.360 I'll do the daily podcast.

01:07:43.880 That's an insane thing to do, by the way, people.

01:07:46.740 Yeah, you just kept going.

01:07:48.420 Yeah, I don't know how you do it, Malcolm.

01:07:52.160 I have deep respect and admiration for you.

01:07:54.400 I love you a lot.

01:07:55.140 You're really nice, Octavian.

01:08:00.060 You're a great big brother.

01:08:02.420 You're doing great big brother things.

Based Camp - May 26, 2025

Inside the Daily Life of Woke： Analyzing Blog of Far-Left, Anti-Kirsche VICE Journo

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