Inside the Daily Life of Woke： Analyzing Blog of Far-Left, Anti-Kirsche VICE Journo
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the dangers of the cinnabite lifestyle and why it is not only dangerous, but also a waste of good suffering. We take a deep dive into the life of Anna Valens, who is a trans woman of colour living in London.
Transcript
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hello simone i am excited to be here with you today and this is an episode i have been
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dying to do literally every day you're like i wish we could record this now this is but we've
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had a reporter at our house every day for the past three days that two german groups one
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japanese team yeah and then we also had the steve truly show that's got you know million
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subscribers so i had to do that and and then before that it was the cruise so it's been so
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long but it's given me so much time to research this topic because of this yes so we are going to
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be diving in to the daily life of anna valens you were an interesting study lust greed deception
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fertile ground but rather mundane this is the individual who attempted to cancel the youtuber
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kirsha who is a vtuber we have another episode on that if you want to see that that is not what we
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are adjudicating here that is not what we are talking about here this isn't even really an
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episode designed to dunk on this reporter anna valens this is an episode that is designed to
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look at what happens and what the daily life of somebody who is bought in to all of the urban
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monoculture's indulgences looks like when they hit their mid-30s what is the payout from all of this
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you know if you go with the lifestyle that we promote you'd have a job that contributes to your
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community you'd have a bunch of kids you'd be as we say living the end of gladiator
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and i think a lot of people when we say things like look i don't think that we should go out there
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and make trans people feel bad about the choices that they've made but i do think it's important
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to do things like bring up well what actually happens if you go all in with this lifestyle
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where actually does that leave you because if you look at the celebrities who promote it they're
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typically people who are beginning their journey within this lifestyle it's it's the before and i just
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decided to do this it's not the i've been doing this for 20 years and here's what happened to me after
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that right once upon another time there was a fox and he was called jerome one day he found a copy of
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cheap phone magazine and he read an article about london life three weeks later he was off his tiny face
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in a gay club but the party lifestyle took its toll eventually he ended up on the streets begging for
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cheese in dalston and what's great about annavalence is you get that and annavalence falls into the and
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this is where i'd say we are not against you know your average trans person right do what you want
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right we do strongly recommend against the cinnabite lifestyle and i'll explain you need to break it down
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because i've this was never heard of it before yeah doors to the pleasures of heaven nor hell i didn't
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care which i thought i'd gone to the limits i hadn't the cinnabites gave me an experience beyond the
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so there was a famous horror franchise in the 1980s called hellraiser it's where the character pinhead is from
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who are you explorers in the further regions of experience demons to some angels to others
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we came now you must come with us taste our pleasures
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oh no tears please it's a waste of good suffering
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this is the guy if you have seen him the horror guy with a bunch of pins all in his head
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this was a world where if you had looked at other 80s horror franchises at the time
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the killers were often stereotypes of you know hillbillies or they were stupid or they were
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just crazy right whereas they wanted to make a cunning and meticulous horror villain but who is
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still totally horrifying right and so the cinnabites were people who went to a another dimension a hell
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dimension where they lived lives dedicated to exploring the furthest reaches of pleasure and
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experience and pain and as they just kept indulging in pleasure and pleasure and pleasure they begin to
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desensitize to it and so they begin to look for new ways to feel pleasure or anything at that point
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you can think of them if you're more familiar with the warhammer 40k these are slaneshi cultists
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they begin you know ripping off their skin they begin putting hooks in themselves they begin putting
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nails in their heads and it's not you know when you're warning somebody against the villains in
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this franchise right you will have an individual with like a the puzzle box that summons them and
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they're like i want a pleasure this they say they'll give me pleasure you know and people are like
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well i mean they're not lying about that in the short term but there is the long term to think
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about because eventually you become a cinnabite if you become the cinnabite's victim they they abduct
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people and bring them back to their realm when these people call them and in many ways people can be
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like why are you so worried about things like these book readings that are happening at schools
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and then the little fox went to the woods why are you so worried about almost to me feels like why
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are you so worried about like these cinnabites who are hanging around the school and occasionally
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abduct children and make them cinnabites and then the bear went over the mountains to see what he could
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see like i worry about it because of the mental health effects okay and we've talked about those a
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hundred other times but i want to talk about the daily life so let's talk about the daily life
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of anna valens from their own sub stack all right and i'll be reading from this okay a few months
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before the pandemic began i went to a queer sex party with a fair mix of cis and trans women normally
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i find t4t is one of the most seamless sexual experiences i've ever had that's when you hook up with
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another trans person as a trans person sure the anxious dancing around the topic is gone the
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uncertainty and fear of being too much isn't present trans femmes tend to hook up with each other at
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lightning speeds but something was a little different at this party the more i tried flirting
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with other trans girls the more i picked up the vibe that a lot of the other dolls came to hook up with
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cis girls this party served as an intersection where cis trans lesbians could meet and so hooking up with
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another trans girl was sort of missing the point the role expectations were changed due to the setting
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and the circumstances so cis trans lesbian so it's a man who's into women and is trans yeah right it's
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it's somebody who was born a guy who was into women but is dressing up as a woman and wants lesbians to
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have sex with him okay okay a lot of people like they don't pressure themselves on lesbians
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i mean this is them saying this but okay but the change also called into question the very concept
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of t4t for me is tf4tf always t4t or is it sometimes t4t until i get my hands on some of that cis girl
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okay the the i try to not use any curse words in this at all anymore or swear words you could use
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the word vagene vagene okay i'll say that t4t until i get my hands on some of that cis girl vagene
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no i mean this is this this is them saying this they're saying trans women prefer universally in
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their experience cis women to trans women as partners if they prefer female partners which is
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saying that from the perspective of a trans woman other trans women are less women or less at least
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what they're interested in than cis women which then brings the question of why then do they have a
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problem when some cis lesbians say i don't want to date trans women right when even the trans women
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have a preference for cis lesbians yeah this this is always something i wondered about you know how
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well founded are all these lesbian complaints about trans women that is natal men saying they're women
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entering their spaces but this implies from the perspective of someone who is a natal man
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who now identifies as a woman saying that so that this is this is useful new information for me
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yeah and the ramifications of that answer have a terrible effect on both of you as well as the
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other trans femmes you're hooking up with sexual roles and expectations tend to have a contagious effect
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and then dot dot dot the first crack in the veneer for me the thing that began the slow and gradual
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exposure of my real self was learning i was ineffable
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so what this story is going to focus on is this individual beginning to realize that the only
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people who willingly sleep with trans women are trans women and that they didn't want trans women as
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partners and that they realized that nobody really wanted them except for the other people who no one
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else wanted to touch that's lonely it is lonely and sad but it's important to highlight this
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from the perspective of somebody who is a you know a vice journalist and who ran another thing like this
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is a fairly successful trans woman living in new york right like this is supposedly what you want from
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life right like if you're taking this path you have achieved everything you've achieved the status you
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would have achieved the nice city and yet they still have nothing nothing even from their own
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value perspective even from their own community perspective and i appreciate this too because as
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you said earlier most of us when exposed to transition stories are seeing the excitement the
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hope the finally i found in my community and not the okay did did happily ever after take place
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and i think that this is well yeah it's adding nuance to the equation right when i was about to
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move i started going to parties in brooklyn we be parties where we could get all sloshed and high and
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dance to 2000s anime music and go home crossfaded it was casual and chill classic new york
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millennial house party vibes fun fun fun i was one of the only trans femmes at these parties one of the two or
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three but everyone treated me fine no one acted weird towards me especially not the femme and
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non-binary hang everyone seemed happy to see me enjoyed my presence a floater who got to vibe and
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chill and joke and have fun i felt like i fit right in i finally found my people and it sounds like a fun
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group right as well like i'm just like oh it's like a weeb anime group where they watch anime music and
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you know etc and and of course they tolerate a trans person right you know then something changed when i
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started introducing my cis girlfriends into the friend group my friends got attention i mean i did
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too but in the way you do when people like your jokes these women they got attraction attention people
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came up to them to talk to them to chat with them seemed to spend a lot of time around them wanting
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something from them oh i soon realized they're trying to f them huh that happens here whoa that's never
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happened to me so what's happening is she found a community that she thought she liked and that
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she thought accepted her but then realized that they did not want to have sex with her it's all
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performative yeah they they accept her of her lifestyle but they don't actually see her as a woman
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well and i think that's quite universal that there are there are a lot of progressive people who will
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absolutely accept people's life choices but that doesn't mean they're going to like voluntarily have
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sex with those people you can't change your arousal patterns based on your politics yeah
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which is is sad because these people they wouldn't know this if they're just interacting with these
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communities if they just go to one of these communities and they're like okay what do like
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are you guys cool with trans people are like yeah if i'm a trans person am i ever going to be made
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fun of or made to feel bad about my choices no and so then they're like ah so the lesbians are
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going to date me in this community and the answer is no yeah that promise was never made no issue no
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we just said we wouldn't but they misinterpreted that because there was a tacit assumption that
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they would also have relationships and fulfilling sex lives right yes they saw this as the validation
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and i should point out that while i don't think this individual totally passes they sometimes pass
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sometimes don't they think they pass so let's say this individual thinks they pass right the point
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i would make about this individual is one this is an individual who didn't have bottom surgery
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so so keep that in mind that they're trying to get lesbians to sleep with somebody who has
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girl dick girl dick as they would call it which to me is assault but okay you know they they especially
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if you don't mourn them first but they you know this is them telling what it's like to be this type of
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individual this isn't like some weird deformed person this is a normal looking trans individual
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if anything somebody who if they had stayed a man would be a fairly i'd say probably attractive man
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right like normal i i can't judge male attractiveness well but i don't think that they would be like
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actively monstrous looking or anything like that they'd be able to find and secure a partner
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and they gave that up in their quest for self-validation and i don't think what we're seeing here
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that they didn't realize that they were giving this up this was not advertised to them on the on
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the lid when they did this i want to i want to be clear that this is not a universally trans problem
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that like an area of the internet where i see this taking place way more than i see it taking place
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with trans individuals is with women who are taxidermying themselves with plastic surgery
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they're given the impression and the promise that if they get these procedures or use these skin
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care products that they will be seen as desirable and often women who are no longer in their 20s are
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trying to look like they're 21 and it doesn't work just like i think a lot of trans people
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are under the impression that they're going to look like women and people will be attracted to them
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like women just like these older women are given this this tale of oh you will look like a 21 year
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old you will be attractive to people like a 21 year old and they simply aren't so that's a great
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that's a great analogy i i think is is if you are somebody who is thinking about this and you are
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having trouble modeling the way that other people will think of you internally they will see you the
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way that you maybe when you were in your 20s would have saw a 40 year old woman who had gotten a ton
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of you know a lot of work done and was trying to hit on 20 year old guys and is like why don't you
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see me as a 20 year old woman you can't pull this off it's it you just shouldn't try you're never
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going to be a 20 something girl anymore and if you're a natal male unless you're they're here saying
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and this is what makes the analogy so perfect they're like but i see myself as a 20 year old girl
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i i see myself as young at heart yeah and just like these women do yeah these women are like
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well i see myself as a desirable young woman yeah i paid for the procedure i look approximately like
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one why can't you see me that way when i see myself this way and it's like well other people
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don't work that way all right then they go on to say this is one of their friends trying to explain
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this i think it's because you're a lesbian one of my cis girlfriends said the guys there don't
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approach you because they know you're gay maybe i thought but i didn't buy it the guys at these
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so she's mad anna valence is mad that guys aren't hitting on her but she's a lesbian trans woman yes
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she wants the validation there maybe i thought but i didn't buy it the guys at these parties weren't
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super woke just the regular kind like you know faux woke pronouns in bio but two white claws and
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they started acting strange having pronouns in your bio doesn't make you woke enough
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okay if you liked what they saw they would have made it a little more obvious i kept hanging out
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kept going to the party but now i was curious i paid a little closer attention started listening a
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little more intensely to people's personal histories keeping track of who dated whom and how it went down
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a pattern emerged a pattern that i shall now call the weave a party rule it pertains to guys dating
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girls and girls dating guys and girls dating girls and all sorts of other things the order of the rules
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formation the weave party rule first women mostly dated men two second if i brought a woman with me
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they were guaranteed to get attention from somebody there usually men so what they're saying here is
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first women mostly dated men and if a woman came who was new to the scene people would hit on her
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and that's true of any scene if you bring a new woman men are going to hit on them okay but what's
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interesting is if it was a trans woman they wouldn't hit on them third queer women were likely to check
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out other women and gossip about being attracted to them ditto towards non-binary people fourth the
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aforementioned rules only pertain to cis women in afab non-binary party goers fifth trans femmes
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were welcome to engage in socializing but dating was off limits these rules are complicated
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basically what she's saying is what everybody knows about women at parties if you are a a cis woman and
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you go to a party men are going to hit on you but if you are a trans woman and you go to a party men are
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not going to hit on you and this to her was shocking she didn't she couldn't get it that even
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if you show up female presenting or at least attempting to be female presenting at a party
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by default you are just going to be you know like like that lesbians are going to be in the same
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dating market that you're in that if you hit on lesbians they're going to be into you or that
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they're going to be into other but they weren't and this was really to the fact that they were shocked
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by this shows that when they were given this product of transition do this and these problems
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get fixed it was not said and no one will ever want to date you again he's not trans
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but that was the that was the 10 that was what they were getting like your market value will be
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significant you might be able to get somebody to date you he's not trans but they're going to be
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significantly less attractive than who you would have gotten previously and that was clearly
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something that came as a shock to them and this is why it's important to go into this so we can
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better understand why we warn against this and where a lot of these self-validation spirals can land a
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person even when they are relatively successful by this community's own standards the weeb party pieces
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started coming together cis women at these parties were mostly interested in cis men their queer
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desires were mostly reserved for cis women and non-binary people that they thought were afab so
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what they're saying here is cis women who were bisexual were interested in women people who are
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born women who may present as a little like gender whatever and cis women but they were not at all
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interested in trans women even if they were also interested in men
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yeah basically i'm into not trans people yeah and i can see why that would be shocking to somebody
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who thought who doesn't understand yeah if you kind of look at it from a weird perspective it seems
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unfair so you're into like both both but you're not into you're into men you're into women but you're not
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into trans women and and what i'm pointing out here yeah that you're you're into each but not both
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what's up with that well because from the perspective of a normal person you're just a mutilated person
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like this is not you this is what i mean you're like somebody with too much plastic surgery like that's
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the way that they see you even if they totally accept you is like that you're not like somebody who's
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just choosing to present differently i and if you want to say well this is the result of their transphobia
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well it's obviously not because if you remember the very first part of this article she was talking
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about how she herself prefers cis women and at parties where there are both cis and trans women
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almost all of the trans women preferred cis women so this is not a phenomenon of individuals with transphobia
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this is a universal phenomenon you know because i you know went to silicon valley parties and stuff
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like that and saw who got dates the guys who don't take hormones but sometimes dress in skirts and other
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like gender non-conforming things they actually got dates okay the trans women did not and this is what
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she's also talking about with the gender queer women who they saw as afab if you are a woman who just
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dresses mannish or like a man but otherwise isn't going on hormones you will be highly desirable to
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this type of person right i think because one shows the former where a guy just sometimes wears skirts
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whatever maybe a little bit ambiguous that shows immense confidence um when you choose to undergo hormone
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therapy or start identifying with different pronouns you are using appeals to authority and exogenous
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interventions that actually communicates a huge lack of confidence and what is the sexiest thing in
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the world confidence no you're right where the trans identity as represented by chemical transition
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represents that i'm going to use our cultural norms to force you to see me in a certain way i can't
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do this by myself that i i can't just dress like a woman when i want to dress like a woman or be
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ambiguous i'm going to use i i'm not strong enough to do it by myself so i'm going to use societal norms
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to enforce this and i'm going oh and or i'm going to use surgery and or chemicals to enforce this yeah
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in chemical communities where people are putting like pronouns in their bios this is not a hostile
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community right yeah sure and meanwhile men did not approach trans women for sex or dating
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but men did approach cis women and non-binary afab people for sure and while cis women tended to
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ogle other cis women and by extension force afab non-binary individuals into the cis women box
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they didn't seem to have much interest with trans femmes
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now this this is what this does say to me is if like one of our kids was like desperately like i want
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to be trans i'd be like genuinely it seemed by the data if you just decide to be a cross-dresser you'll
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have a better life like that's sort of what this is is suggesting here which is something that i had
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seen but i didn't click for me before it was like all the cis men and women were interested in all other
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cis women and cis men and anyone they perceived to be cis unconsciously oh no i thought to myself i don't
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think i fit in i don't think i fit in at all and there's a picture of her where she's like
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we party era anna was all about trying to look attractive and but dykey it was nice but not fully me either
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when i first i feel really bad for her right like she's going to do this when i was reading this
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awkward phases she just wants to be loved she just wants to be accepted she was promised
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still feel bad i want people to get what they think they're getting and i do think she was sold
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the bill of false goods i think that she was lied to by society about what was going to happen when
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she pursued this course of action oh no i completely agree i mean this is what you see with all of her
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anger about her lewd tubing career not taking off with the agency is if you watch her other video on
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it this whole thing that she started was at least in part over the fact that a lewd tubing agency
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didn't want to hire trans lewd tubers because they said that nobody wants to watch them basically
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which i guess just when you read this now it adds this whole other layer that this is this
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huge thorn in her side this huge sore point of like oh great once again because i'm a trans woman
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no one wants me yeah we're just snapping and then coming at well and because what you'll see at the
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conclusion of this article is she says basically well i was wrong to try to to get cis women to like
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me in this environment but now as a lewd tuber i have all of these cis women fans i mean i have finally
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found a community that accepts me and what you realize is this being turned down by this community and
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this community rejecting her i think was really horrifying to her because it it it reflected to
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her that no this new community and as i said reading her blog is really sad because it's a bunch of
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now i found a place where i fit in then three posts later i hate this group now here are the new
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community i just found where i fit in and and what you realize is that you know this is one of the
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things i often see with detransitioners because i i meet a lot of them at like heritage foundation
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events and stuff like that is one of the things that they're most surprised about we have some
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like detransitioners in our in our fan community as well and stuff like that and they they even like
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list this in our bio is if they think that the community is gonna like jump on them or or have
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some hostility to them if they're in like a conservative community at least within our type
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like new right tech right conservative and i think you know when i talked to them they're like i am
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surprised by how nice everyone here always is you know there is there is not and i think that that's
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what they're realizing if they came from a community where they were constantly searching
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for self-validation only to realize that the the only community that's really going to you know
00:27:28.220
validate you for who you are is going to be the tech right um unless you're like a very specific thing
00:27:36.700
and and and unfortunately the the trans woman is not something that's going to get you the validation
00:27:42.760
that you want so when i first moved to and this is the other thing i note about like heritage
00:27:48.020
foundation events there are trans people there who like just started detransitioning like they look
00:27:54.100
like trans people it is not that they are being treated nicely because they don't look like trans
00:27:59.140
people they look like trans people but like if i'm at a heritage foundation event and i see somebody
00:28:04.280
who looks trans i immediately am like okay but like this took a lot of bravery to come here
00:28:12.480
and everyone there is going to know that except for you know at the natal con there was like one
00:28:19.260
homophobic guy which really annoyed me that treated like some of the gay people poorly but but whatever
00:28:23.460
like you can't you can't place everything but i think you can't control i mean since it was a more
00:28:29.220
open event you can't control some yeah comes to your thing when i first moved to nyc 2016 to 2020
00:28:37.900
i was in a brooklyn trans girl community made up of writers and musicians and other creators
00:28:43.380
a twinkie thin irish blonde girl with curves in all the right places yeah my first four years in brooklyn
00:28:49.680
were busy a revolving door of sexual partners one after another threesomes couple swaps sex parties
00:28:56.820
t girls effing me to compare notes with other t girls the first time awful god right this is good
00:29:05.860
these are the happy times for her these are the happy times she moved to new york 2016 to 2020
00:29:11.640
and she was passed around because she had just become a woman and she now was sexually promiscuous
00:29:18.660
but it was mostly t girls but also you're getting this understanding of when she was younger and trans
00:29:24.880
her youth allowed her to get through some of this and created the illusion for her that she would
00:29:32.080
still get oh no so she's not only she's not only a trans woman she's a trans woman who has hit the
00:29:38.620
wall this is a post 30 trans woman oh no okay that's really rough yes you're dedicated that i mean like
00:29:47.800
and i think men really don't think about the wall as well so like here's this whole thing that they
00:29:53.160
were never prepared for they haven't been trained for this yeah no they haven't been trained for this
00:29:57.820
a lot of women have like some understanding that it's coming up with you know at least the you know
00:30:02.980
old maid and you know yeah i think a lot of trans women and that's a great point don't have an
00:30:08.280
understanding that because men grow up with the understanding that their value is only going to
00:30:12.040
appreciate as they get older and i think that's very deep in people yeah you're just like okay by
00:30:16.640
default i'm it's okay it's only gonna get better whereas women are like well by default people are
00:30:20.700
gonna start seeing me as a cat lady or old maid or whatever and like i think that you know there's
00:30:24.860
just so much stuff going on when you transition that you're not going to remember that like oh by the
00:30:28.700
way i also have to deal with this different framework i'm gonna hit the wall don't like
00:30:32.780
become women until they're like 23 so they get more like seven years of being attractive or less
00:30:38.440
oh that's rough transition oh and then yeah no one wants you if you're a trans woman or a cis woman
00:30:44.940
yeah that is like the worst time to transition because you get like a few years of being and and
00:30:51.360
you can see that this is what she defined as a good life this is why i'm talking about being when i say
00:30:56.180
a cinebite this is an individual who had another blog post talked about how she learned how to deal
00:31:02.420
with pain because she was with a partner who really liked hitting her in the face and that was like her
00:31:06.420
thing her dom really and she hit her so hard she taught her new ways to deal with pain so like
00:31:11.640
actually a cinebite like this is you know yes yes so she then goes also i guess she didn't get
00:31:18.920
work done i feel like most trans women i think she just did hormones to do the top okay because
00:31:24.660
like if you got work done man like no one's hitting it like you know don't come for my weave don't touch
00:31:28.640
my like nose job like well i think that this is it's like what type of lesbian cis lesbian is she able
00:31:35.320
to get to date her the type who just wants to punch her in the face ah this is so rough this is so
00:31:41.560
rough no it is it is sad and it is rough and that is why i am reading it because i think that people
00:31:47.680
need to know if if look if you start with i just moved to brooklyn and i'll read this again because
00:31:56.200
i think this lifestyle is what she thought would be forever not for four years a twinkie finnish blonde
00:32:04.400
girl with curves in all the right places yeah my first four years in new york were busy a revolving
00:32:09.920
door of sexual partners one after another threesomes couple swaps sex parties t girls effing
00:32:15.920
me to compare notes with other t girls for the first time i don't want someone to like have sex
00:32:22.020
with me to compare their experience having sex with me with other people i can't i can't even i can't
00:32:26.660
even think about like you comparing sex with me with other people like makes me so like like right
00:32:32.880
how can she like why does she want this why does she want this for the first time in my life i felt hot
00:32:38.000
attractive sexual and not just sexually appealing but sexually appealing to other women so what she's
00:32:43.620
saying here why does she want it because she wanted the affirmation yeah i guess because she assumed
00:32:48.980
people would compare her favorably yeah she wanted affirmation she was doing all of this for
00:32:56.220
affirmation it's very clear and she thought that this affirmation wasn't a spigot with a very small
00:33:02.400
iv bag attached to it yes other trans women more specifically but i assumed there wasn't much of a
00:33:09.280
difference between cis women and trans women when it came to openly expressing clear queer attraction
00:33:14.200
so the point she's making here is at first when she was doing the sleeping all around the only people
00:33:18.700
who were sleeping with her were trans women and she just assumed that that was just coincidence
00:33:23.300
she'd eventually find the cis woman who liked her the fun had to end eventually 2020 loomed and being
00:33:31.940
ogled by other trans girls had worn out its welcome i was tight casted as the hot journalist tea girl
00:33:37.500
and i felt trapped in a setting where sexual availability was expected for me confused oddly
00:33:43.400
unsatisfied was most of the sex i was having so again the sex wasn't even good right she was just
00:33:48.440
doing it and she got validation from it and eventually she reflected wait this isn't good
00:33:54.440
sex why am i doing this right and i think that the truth of this and we've talked about this before is
00:34:00.280
sex isn't actually that good it is something that's mythologized by our society especially the far left
00:34:05.740
but i think the healthiest way to view sex is it's just you know something you do to make kids
00:34:10.160
and it's fun especially when you're young you'll feel a lot of compulsion to do it but it's never more
00:34:15.620
than a compulsion you know i didn't so so then she goes i didn't know what to do was i ace
00:34:23.160
increasingly i was questioning whether i was ace and i think this is why a lot of trans girls and i
00:34:28.160
see this repeatedly end up identifying as ace later it's not because they're actually ace it's just
00:34:33.120
because they tried the debauchery they tried the cinebite lifestyle and then the only way to reclaim
00:34:40.120
normality after they had done that to themselves was to adopt an ace identity so then they say it was
00:34:44.940
clear i needed to take a sexual break when i made the switch to weeb party friends i took it on spec
00:34:51.220
that they were far less sexual the opposite of a t for t space a space where i was integrating with
00:34:56.760
more cisgender people on purpose to become familiar with life outside of the community that the trans
00:35:02.260
community socially mature a curated friend circle of working professionals where everyone kept it in
00:35:07.860
their pants we were all either in our 30s or hitting our 30s it felt like a great landing spot
00:35:12.840
for my slutty 20s i mean i wanted to take a break from sucking and effing so i chose a place that
00:35:19.140
seemed relatively tame but i think i drew on an assumption based on s-ing and effing sucking and
00:35:25.300
effing available to me at the time i paid closer attention i realized i was having an asexual social
00:35:32.220
experience but others were not oh no so she thought she found her pure her pure living she thought
00:35:41.040
trans community where i was being passed around as new meat and i thought okay well now i'll integrate
00:35:48.660
with this community as a woman oh they don't actually see me as a woman even though they are far far lefties
00:35:55.560
um a not into trannies she says quote i assume most trans women have read them's 2018 article
00:36:04.240
on discrimination against transgender people and dating what i just can't get over is calling this
00:36:09.520
preference discrimination where she enters this article saying that both her and almost every
00:36:16.240
other trans woman she knows prefers to date cis women to trans women according to the study in the
00:36:22.240
journal of social and personal relations just a mere 12 of the 958 surveyed said they would be open
00:36:28.160
to dating a transgender man or a transgender woman nearly half of all queer and non-binary
00:36:32.400
participants were exclusionary towards trans partners as were 71 of lesbian women between trans men
00:36:38.960
and trans women the latter were more likely to face rejection from the dating pool now basically it's
00:36:45.720
not as bad to be a trans man as it is to be a trans woman was in the dating pool and this graph that
00:36:51.240
she shared i hadn't seen it before it's really interesting actually so if you're a hetero man
00:36:56.320
you're looking at like two percent of hetero man will consider dating a trans person and the majority
00:37:03.280
of those it's trans men basically they're like yeah i know they're saying they're a man but i don't
00:37:08.700
believe it and then the minority is trans women almost no hetero men are into trans men then if you look
00:37:13.920
at hetero women okay literally none are into trans women you you do not see apparently a single hetero
00:37:22.580
woman in this this is because they're hetero women but a few were into trans men which is interesting
00:37:29.800
wait a few hetero women were into women who now identified as men but oh okay sure yeah that makes
00:37:37.820
sense yeah okay gay men okay uh a a like i'd say like seven percent chunk of gay men are into trans
00:37:47.040
men none are into trans women okay but that's actually big that's the mr slave and mr garrison
00:37:54.000
dynamic where mr garrison transitions and mr slave is like what why would you do this to me i'm a gay man
00:38:01.280
i'm into men and mr garrison assumed when he transitioned that mr slave would still be into
00:38:07.640
him but mr slave was not still into him gay men of all groups even more than hetero men find trans
00:38:15.500
women or men who identify as women gross that really surprised me by this yeah that's yeah i think it
00:38:24.420
also i guess implies a heavier interest not just in male primary sexual characteristics but male
00:38:33.720
secondary characteristics yeah and then with lesbian women again here you see the vast minority being
00:38:39.820
into this but again you see more lesbian women being into women who believe they're men than being
00:38:46.120
into men who believe they're women sure yeah and i i also think that like before it was super common
00:38:53.280
just to be transsexual it was fairly common just to be like a very butch woman so this is you know
00:38:59.460
it makes sense but the point i'm making here is even lesbians and gays do not by this data at least
00:39:06.140
biologically or by their arousal patterns see trans women as women or trans yeah but it's it's funny
00:39:12.740
that trans men like get a free pass in a bunch of scenarios so yeah let's say we're there were roughly
00:39:22.000
50 people at a weed party gathering from 2021 through 2024 these are big yeah that's a big party
00:39:28.880
right very little change in the social climate was in the millennial friend group across those three
00:39:34.060
years let's also estimate four party goers at all events were lesbians and five were queer based on
00:39:41.000
the 2018 study while attending the weed party six people in total were open to dating a trans person
00:39:47.140
only two or three queer people were open to dating a trans person and only one or two lesbians were
00:39:54.480
open to dating a trans person if one of those six open to dating a trans person one of those two to
00:40:00.060
three queer people are one of those one to two lesbians no wonder why i was feeling left out look
00:40:05.040
how small my dating pool was most of the lesbians were statistically unlikely to be interested in me
00:40:09.880
and a good chunk of queer folks would have passed on me as well even if i was open to dating men
00:40:15.520
44 people would have said no to being was a trans person statistically speaking i was in a social
00:40:21.680
climate where i was surrounded by cis people who looked me over and said not into trannies when
00:40:27.380
faced was the real thing they'd rather leave the dick girl fantasy to futanori hentai and here i point
00:40:34.520
out if you had read our pragmatist guide to sexuality we did a big study on people into futa the reason why men
00:40:39.860
are into futa is because or some men are at least is these are men who want porn without any other men
00:40:45.800
in it because historically speaking you know a man who was okay was watching another man have sex with
00:40:50.860
a girl he was interested in had fewer surviving offspring and so a lot of men prefer only female
00:40:56.940
female porn but then they still want to see piv sex and that's what futa porn is it is literally the
00:41:02.880
antithesis of trans porn okay and we asked in our survey of the people who are interested in futa porn
00:41:09.360
how many of them were interested in trans porn and none of them were the highest correlation was
00:41:13.960
trans porn was bestiality and monsters which means these are people who see they whatever the part of
00:41:20.940
their body that turns off stimuli like oh i'm going to get a disgust reaction from something that's
00:41:25.760
clearly non-human this is a outputting an abnormal sort of like comfort with body modification or stuff
00:41:32.200
that is unnatural yeah yeah and i don't think that they realize that this is the way they are being
00:41:37.660
interpreted by people well because i think also they're being lied to just the way that you know
00:41:41.620
women in their 30s and 40s are being lied to about cosmetic procedures that allegedly make them young
00:41:47.720
that this you know this will make you look younger and this you know this will make you look like a
00:41:53.280
woman and people don't realize that no this this makes you look like an approximation of a characteristic
00:42:00.660
held by this audience but it is it is by no stretch of the imagination making you that audience and i think
00:42:06.700
both with trans women and with the body modification crowd a lot of them are myth-led about how much
00:42:14.640
they're going to pass by the amount of filters that famous trans women use on the social media posts
00:42:22.120
that they're consuming of these individuals so these individuals are having you know post-transition
00:42:25.960
euphoria they're posting a bunch of of modified pictures that make them look more like a woman than
00:42:32.960
they would in person a bunch of filters that's also so easy i mean i can look more like a woman
00:42:37.880
with filters you know like yeah we can all look so good so there is a tragedy on the other side of this
00:42:44.520
yeah yeah you turn off the filter compare that well no because then they go into this and they're like
00:42:49.940
oh dylan milvaney look they passed it's like no dylan milvaney doesn't pass like if you see
00:42:54.740
dylan milvaney in person this is an individual it doesn't even come close to passing and this is
00:42:59.740
like the very best of what you can hope for within the trans community it's tough it's very selective
00:43:04.960
angles and all that yeah good lighting yeah and and even if you do you know you might be able to
00:43:12.540
hook up with a guy who's just interested in sleeping with someone for the night well and also like i think
00:43:16.780
yeah the other problem though is that we we've entered an age in which margot robbie is considered mid
00:43:22.740
like it's also difficult even as a cis woman to be seen as attractive so yeah like how do you think
00:43:29.300
that as as someone with so many things running against you one she's over 32 she wasn't born a
00:43:35.040
woman you know three you know even as a man she's not well this is why i'm i've moved against the idea
00:43:44.460
of trans maxing or transitioning if you're like an unattractive guy just to get some partners or to get
00:43:48.660
something well honestly though there are there are some types of of male presentation that just
00:43:53.280
they can pull off women if you are east asian if you are east asian none of this applies that's what's
00:43:58.320
so screwed up is that like there are 100 trans people out there and not just east asian like
00:44:03.820
they're all also all colors of a whatever ethnic rainbow that look way better than the vast majority
00:44:10.100
of when women they're like sevens eights nines and tens so i have never seen a white trans person
00:44:16.400
fall into that category have you one think a black trans woman have you ever seen a black trans
00:44:21.320
woman who falls into that category yes yeah absolutely yeah really yeah yeah okay so compare
00:44:27.240
that to an out and proud kinkster someone who is pretty upfront about her interest in bdsm and
00:44:32.080
prefers open relationships for that reason so she wants a lesbian partner who is into bdsm and open to
00:44:37.900
having an open relationship a rather alternative lifestyle you know being a sex working sex journalist
00:44:44.500
so she's also a sex worker someone who speaks her mind pretty old journalist like you know if
00:44:49.760
anna velins was super wealthy again this none of this would be a problem someone who probably
00:44:55.240
didn't f with my personality or maybe i wasn't their type physically and yes for the record i did know
00:45:01.660
some people who thought i was attractive within that group too it didn't necessarily mean no they just
00:45:06.500
said it to be nice this is what she doesn't understand it doesn't necessarily mean they would date
00:45:10.580
it just means i bumped into one of the other five people who would be open to going out as a trans
00:45:15.920
person that's the problem though six people being open to date a trans person does not mean five
00:45:21.740
potential partners you may not be into those five people or they might not have chemistry with you
00:45:26.920
but or the circumstances may not be right they might be partnered they might be uninterested in sex or
00:45:32.180
dating at that time or your sexual orientation may be incompatible in other words not all of my
00:45:37.480
experiences that the weed party can be framed to my gender identity but when cishet leaning
00:45:42.600
dating patterns emerge and trans women seem to receive significantly less attention than their
00:45:48.020
cisgendered equivalents or cisgendered men yeah it's hard to believe that's a space where trans women
00:45:54.000
are truly treated as equals this planted the seed in me that grew over the last year and a half
00:45:58.660
finally one day it ruptured i realized the weed party friend group had an undercurrent of
00:46:03.300
trans misogyny was in it that had gone unaddressed oh my god this person is just like a bomb waiting
00:46:09.340
to go off with this is my first time hearing about trans misogyny very interesting i looked for it and
00:46:15.320
i found it my experience with this dating pool our lack thereof is one reflection of that so people
00:46:21.440
weren't interested in you therefore they're all evil that's your takeaway from this no self-reflection
00:46:26.880
no oh they're not interested in the way you look or oh this isn't something they're into give
00:46:31.900
you and you didn't even have bottom surgery and you're trying to get lesbians to sleep with you
00:46:36.760
you and now you're going for the classic it's therefore suck my girl d and like it like this is why
00:46:45.300
people have turned against yeah this is this is why jk rowling is fighting the fight because when we
00:46:51.620
first and i first was very pro-trans when i bought into this i thought it was about you wanting
00:46:57.120
to be accepted and this community accepted you yeah uncategorically there there's been no accusation
00:47:03.640
made in any of this content that no yeah what she's mad about is that she cannot force lesbians
00:47:09.480
to sleep with her or force them to be attracted to her no it's it's not it's not even it's she's not
00:47:14.820
being coercive in any of this she's just insulted that none of them are coming up to her no hold on
00:47:20.580
listen to this okay okay day it ruptured i realized wade guardy party friend group had an
00:47:26.660
undercurrent of trans misogyny was in it that had gone unaddressed okay what does it mean to address
00:47:33.040
this what it means to address this is that people date her who aren't dating her now people have sex
00:47:39.100
with her who aren't having or not even date her because she only does open relationships
00:47:42.320
addressing the trans misogyny she's talking about means people have sex with her who don't want to
00:47:49.160
have sex with her that's what she's talking about she might be using colorful language to hide that
00:47:55.040
that's what she's talking about but that is the only way because it is not that she wants more
00:47:59.800
acceptance from the group she wants lesbians in this group to have sex with her because again she
00:48:04.740
said multiple times that is the only people who she finds attractive yeah but i don't think she wants
00:48:08.840
to coerce well okay there's other things that she's written that implies that she really likes
00:48:13.000
non-consent but she doesn't write anywhere in here that she she actually seems to want people to
00:48:19.760
make the first move and approach right but this is what you're missing sanon okay she went to the
00:48:25.760
community voluntarily people in the community did not want to make the first move yeah they didn't
00:48:31.340
yes this goes unaddressed she means she wants to be able to force them to make the forced move
00:48:38.600
whether that is using cultural pressure or whether that is i mean basically she's saying i want to set
00:48:43.460
up a cultural pressure apparatus where lesbians in this community will feel uncomfortable not hitting
00:48:49.020
on me or not making a move for me that's what she wants to happen and we see this in many trans
00:48:56.120
spaces where when a lesbian says i'm not interested in dating trans women they are attacked
00:49:00.440
this is a a form of violence that has happened multiple times at gay bars and stuff like that like
00:49:07.020
this is a real phenomenon so it's not like i'm pulling this like five degrees of freedom from
00:49:12.480
this this is what she wants that's rough so what i like here is this whole thing makes me depressed
00:49:20.180
to read then i get to that line and i'm like oh you are a vile person like that is that is where i'm
00:49:26.060
like i yeah yeah you are you you deserve everything and i don't think you started deserving everything
00:49:31.880
but we choose who we are you know we choose when we victimize other populations we choose when we
00:49:37.120
victimize other groups and you chose to not be okay with being accepted you wanted forced sex
00:49:45.060
or or sex that other people didn't want you wanted them to feel uncomfortable not wanting to have sex
00:49:50.720
with you i felt disillusioned and alienated after this conclusion so i decided to take stock i looked in
00:49:57.160
the mirror and asked well what was i getting out of weed party if not sex so friendship camaraderie
00:50:03.920
everything like that that wasn't what she wanted she was there for sex is basically what it was
00:50:08.480
and that's really sad you know she then writes something broke was in me what was the point of all this what
00:50:15.640
was i doing here why did i keep hanging out when i wasn't really wanted the last party i went to i wore
00:50:21.200
a dress for the first time in a very long time i traded in slacks and jeans for something pretty
00:50:26.740
something form fitting pretty feminine no one noticed no one complimented me and to think just
00:50:33.180
you expect that they're going to go out and compliment you you expect that they're going to
00:50:36.760
notice you right it has literally been maybe a year maybe more than a year maybe half a decade
00:50:43.340
since somebody as a man complimented the way that i dressed now maybe this is a sign that i just
00:50:48.700
dressed terribly but i just don't think that this is something that normal people expect and i think
00:50:53.880
that this shows the self-centeredness of this individual that they expect they wear something
00:50:58.580
unique on one day they're going to get complimented at the very most this is something you might expect
00:51:04.220
of a dedicated partner who pays attention to the way you dress every day but that's something that
00:51:09.420
your lifestyle precludes given that you only enter open relationships a damn broke was in me i wasn't being
00:51:17.040
respected that's what was going on and well if the world wasn't going to treat me with respect i
00:51:22.540
wouldn't treat it with respect either i began adopting what i like to call neat core hobbies sweat
00:51:29.700
pants anime t-shirts whatever makes me feel comfy when i go out an expression of anti a fashion that
00:51:36.700
isn't fashionable a statement that i appear as myself and prioritize my comfort over the preferences of
00:51:42.020
anyone else i can dress nicely again when i want to dress nicely for me right now i want to dress like
00:51:48.080
i can just get out of bed that means anime tees baggy sweatpants and vans it's funny reinventing
00:51:54.960
yourself is not very glamorous the true me is a frumpy and agoraphobic she says stays home and plays
00:52:01.700
deadlock all day and pretends to be a giant anime girl over the internet she plays a giantess in her
00:52:08.020
whatever videos to my utter bewilderment this is considered very attractive to a white assortment
00:52:14.060
of people playing a giantess on the internet cis women trans women non-binary people i sometimes feel
00:52:18.920
myself laying in bed all day erping with multiple play partners across 24 hours it's like catching up
00:52:24.980
with a long lost time at weed party quite literally i've had more cis partners in the past three years
00:52:31.380
than the four before that but here's the problem oh so she she gave up and now it's working for her
00:52:37.020
no what she did is she gave up and now she does horny online content okay she says oh well now that
00:52:46.160
i'm doing like lewd tubing content i have found my community because all these cis women watch me
00:52:52.280
and i'm like how are you verifying that these are cis women people on the internet lie that's like the
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point of your you know going to the internet to receive sexual gratification that is one of the
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the oldest the oldest rule of the internet is there are no women on the internet and by this what they
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mean is there in the cd you know sex pest parts of the internet the reason why you get so few women
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within those communities is not just because women are into those things less but a woman is they often
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get such an arbitrage opportunity was in real life partnerships that they have no need to explore this
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online what this person is clearly engaging with is men who are pretending to be women and they are so
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desperate for affirmation that they are willing to believe that this is real and then here is where
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it begins to get really creepy in other words my experiences was being ignored and overlooked in the
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dating space reflected negative experiences i had with cis millennials who wanted to reject me for my gender
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identity but couldn't a common theme in 2010 something i experienced recently in 2020 this led me to
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believe it may be a problem generationally with how millennials cis women perceive trans women on average
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gen z has treated me better than millennials i don't just mean that gen z adults are more open to sex with
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trans women than their millennial counterparts i mean that gen z cis women treat me as if i am equal to them
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while millennials are more likely to treat me like a third sex woman a massive amount of gen zers view
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trans women as women they have accepted transness just as another aspect a woman may have this results
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in not just a lot of positive experiences with gen z queer women in my sexual and dating life
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but affirming experiences even when conflict happens it never feels like my transness is at play when
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there's a fight it just feels like we're two equals figuring things out i love how this
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person just sort of tells on themselves of how miserable it is to date them talking about fights
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in relationships as if they're normal things it is like for example it's not just that simone and i
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almost never have fights like maybe one every three years but i would even say of my past relationships
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i probably only got in a fight with a partner and one out of every four or five people i dated
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fights are not a normal part of a relationship and by fight here i mean any sort of emotionally
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heated disagreement i'm curious if there's a huge gap between dating preferences for millennials and
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dating preferences for gen z moving from a t4t space to a c4c one was an immense form of psychological
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whiplash but moving from a weeb party collection of cis and trans friends to friends sexually interested
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me that gave me whiplash and it solidified my feeling that weed party vibe is not a right fit
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for me so who are gen z this is an individual who's in her mid-30s there are people between 13 and 28
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this is somebody who has admitted to doing a lot of age play stuff this is somebody who has admitted
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to having problems is desiring underage content in the past and basically their big realization is
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well if i groom children then it all works out for me in the end and i think that that's
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horrifying into this particular tale oh no i mean the power dynamics at play here
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okay wow it's got dark yeah this this is really dark this is really sad and i think it's important to
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go into because we only hear about the euphoria we only hear about the beginning or we hear about
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the people detransitioning and how bad it got for them but if there's somebody who is presumably living
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the best life you can as a trans person this is what it is this is what that best life is and it's a sad
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sad world it's a world where you descend into a hikikomori where you attack random vtubers because
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you're mad that they're more famous than you where your only source of validation comes from men
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pretending to be women and and young kids yeah that's it's a rough it's a rough experience
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not a pathway we would recommend for our children well and this is this is why i think you know you
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want to get kids out of this this is what you need to show them you don't show them oh somebody
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freaking out oh somebody who's being like aggressively mean about all this it's like this this
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this is the end of the rainbow yeah you're gonna hit the wall you're not gonna get the validation
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you're hoping to get you're being love bombed now and then everyone's gonna forget about you
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everyone's gonna be nice and be creeped out by you what's the other side of sucking it up what's the
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other side of sucking it up okay you get a family you get kids you you you can create a job where
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you're contributing to the world rather than attacking random people online
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they're forcing you you you know that there are so many things like that you said you you can
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Oh, you suck it up for a few years and you get something that's kind of good or you get something that the other side of this is amazing.
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And we are fighting not against people like Anna Valens. We are fighting for people like Anna Valens before this ideology got its hooks and hurt.
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You were an interesting study. Lust, greed, deception, fertile ground, but rather mundane.
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Yeah, we want the person that became who Anna Valens is today to have experienced the alternate fun.
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So, you know, in 10 years, that person could be walking home to their home and wife and have, you know, 10 kids jump on them.
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Or maybe they don't want 10 kids, but like, I don't know. I feel like if she wanted, you know, a single childless life that was just focused on having fun, there were much better ways to do that.
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I think the problem, though, is if you're incredibly hungry for validation.
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This is an easy trap. But what do you do if what you really want is validation?
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I think being hungry for validation is in itself a sin.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Build a better objective function. It's a bad objective function.
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It's an objective function that's not different from negative utilitarianism or something like you.
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What you need to do is think through what really matters in life, because the amount that other people validate you
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So you're just going to say validation is a false god. Don't do it.
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Yeah. If you live your entire life dedicated to that, you become a Cenobite.
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That is what makes Cenobites, is living a life dedicated to self-validation.
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Yeah. It could also be one of those Chinese finger trap things.
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You'll never get it when you're trying to get it.
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You'll get it if you do a great job at other things.
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You can't seek it out. If you're seeking it out, you're never going to get it.
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So you might as well just not try and just do something else that's meaningful.
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But I appreciate the cautionary tale. This is an episode we can save for our kids.
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Stinkies are getting a little curious because all the outside fringe stuff is super fun.
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Drag shows are, again, what I'm saying you should do.
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If you have these desires, do drag shows occasionally, right?
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You know, one of the points I'm making is drag, ironically, was not that emotionally unhealthy, you know?
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You know, historically, the vast majority of people who did drag were cis men.
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Well, and as we pointed out with this individual, I mean, we know why this individual is trans because she writes about it all the time.
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She gets turned on by the idea of a man being turned into a woman.
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There were plenty of ways to engage with that without transitioning.
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As they've expanded the tent for what qualifies for transition, they begin offering transition as a solution to people who this is not going to help.
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If you're transitioning because of a sexual kink, that's not going to lead you to having a good life.
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I've already ate a pretty big lunch, so I don't really mind whatever you want to do for dinner for my dad.
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It's the restaurant right before the bridge going into Phoenixville.
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And I thought it would have, like, a pretty, like, the burger was good, but it was, like, way too expensive.
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I know, but it's not like I just have a fully stocked pantry of any ingredients.
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You can ask him does he want a burger or pasta with pasto, because you made some pasto sauce a while ago, and that's really easy to make.
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All right, go down, get my dad, and thank you for doing this episode.
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I've never really done a deep dive on such an unfiltered tale of the other side of transition.
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I mean, you see a lot of trans influencers showing the highlights reels of their lives,
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and also presenting highly curated social commentary, and they look fantastic, and you're like, this is, wow, like, they're thriving.
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And this is, I think, you know, to a fault, Anna Valens has been extremely open about everything she is thinking and doing.
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But it's been very helpful because you're seeing, again, the very unfiltered element of it.
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Yeah, and it's also interesting to me because, you know, we're about the same age and everything like that.
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Like, we're not, like, that dissimilar in our starting point, Anna Valens and us, right?
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You know, and that, you know, we made different positions, and I think nobody, I don't think any, even the biggest centibite is going to look at the differences between our two lives
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and say that her life is in any way desirable when contrasted with our life.
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Anyone's going to be like, wow, Malcolm and Simone have a really good life.
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I know from the hate comments that we get that I read that people think we live very miserable lives and that we are in a loveless marriage.
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No, they hope we live miserable lives because they hate that it's obvious that's not true.
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I think that a lot of people have normalized to people really faking it online, and they don't realize that we're, like, this is just, this is just us.
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It was, like, what more could possibly be covered by, you know, your post-antevalence analysis, but this was sad, but interesting.
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You've been on top of everything, and I'm really proud of you.
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I feel like I'm failing at everything, but I think that's also a very female thing.
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You yesterday found out the kid is still healthy, okay?
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That's the biggest thing that you're doing right now is bringing another human into this world.
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We've provided very good recent feedback on it.
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The Whistling app is better than ever for people who don't know about this project.
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It's to create a chatbot that can talk with our kids and constantly brings the conversation back to educational topics.
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If you want to check it out, check out whistling.ai.
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We don't even have a system for charging you to use it, so feel free to screw us over.
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I mean, not that we're going to charge you what we're going to charge you as we possibly can, but I am so excited about it.
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You can check this out at rfab.ai if you want to get on a wish list for this or something.
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We're trying to create virtual worlds using AI.
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You're just like, well, if no one else is doing it, I guess I'll fix it.
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That's an insane thing to do, by the way, people.