Based Camp - Iran Paradox： A Theocracy Built & Defended By Leftists (Understanding Why)

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. People are wondering why we haven't done

00:00:04.120 the Iran one yet. And I wanted to wait until we had a really interesting and mentally engaging

00:00:10.220 take that we could do on this. And we are going to be focused on two core areas today. We are

00:00:15.780 going to be focused on how modern Western leftists help bring in this regime and moderate secular

00:00:24.880 leftists brought this regime into power even was in Iran and why they're fighting against it falling

00:00:32.940 apart. But then we're also going to know if you're if you're surprised by that, here is an image of

00:00:38.880 two leftist girls. You can see they look like hippies celebrating in 1979, right? And holding

00:00:45.900 up his picture, you know, the current leader and the Ayatollah. And it said he later had 30,000

00:00:51.620 leftists executed. And these two specific girls in this picture, the girl in front Marir Rafi was

00:00:58.160 executed by Islamists 10 years later. And the girl at the back, Sahar Muhammad escaped from Iran and

00:01:04.040 took asylum in Sweden four years after the revolution. Oh my gosh. And this didn't work

00:01:10.040 out for them. This is one of the types of things on our new subreddit that's like huge now that we

00:01:14.280 need mods for. So do reach out if you're interested in that, because we are now the largest conservative

00:01:18.620 on Reddit bigger than Joe Rogan, bigger than Asmogold, definitely bigger than any of the

00:01:22.780 mainstream conservative ones. But I think if you look at the comments on the Reddit and stuff like

00:01:26.360 that, people were laughing at this. They were laughing at this and saying stuff like, it's a

00:01:31.760 shame that she had to escape the regime that she brought into power. And I would actually like to

00:01:37.320 hold a mirror to many people on the right right now, which is being as stupid as these two girls

00:01:44.640 were putting a regime into power that told them exactly what it planned to do to people like them,

00:01:51.160 exactly the way it wanted to operate. The other thing that we're going to go into a lot, which I

00:01:55.660 find to be a very interesting topic to discuss is all of the modern leftists, you know, whether it's

00:02:01.160 Hassan or anyone else, and we'll go over who they are, what their platforms is like pink news and stuff

00:02:05.500 like that are standing the regime right now saying the regime really isn't that bad, that it's worse to be

00:02:11.800 in America than it is to be there. And then all of these atrocities that we're hearing about aren't

00:02:15.340 really happening. And I find this to be very fascinating, because I wanted to like, I know

00:02:20.900 you can guffaw and point at them and say, haha, look at the the idiot, right? Which I think a lot of

00:02:27.280 people on the right are justly doing right now. But I also want to be like, I don't, I want to

00:02:34.300 understand how this ideology works in their heads. Right? I want to understand what are they saying

00:02:39.100 about the pictures of body bags? How do they actually think? No, but it's not just that. It's

00:02:46.800 like, they were able to find endless, like the larger leftist machine was able to find endless

00:02:54.600 atrocities in Gaza. And yet, they're literally just opening machine guns on civilians here.

00:03:00.060 There have been cases recently where they dress up like protesters to lead other protesters to kill

00:03:04.880 zones. Oh, what? They do this to specifically so dissent among the protesters, so they all hate

00:03:11.220 each other. At least just trust each other. That's yeah, but I want to like, go into, like, how is it

00:03:19.880 that they actually don't care about this? Because I know that it's getting through to some of them to

00:03:25.480 some extent, right? Like, and they're trying to downplay it, because it goes against whatever

00:03:29.440 their larger agenda is. And people will say, well, they just hate the West. They just hate,

00:03:32.780 you know, America. I want to understand, like, but why so pathologically that it in any sort of

00:03:40.540 logically coherent framework leads to these outcomes? And I think that a part of it actually

00:03:45.920 comes from, if I'm just going to lead with this, it comes from the effect discussed in South Park.

00:03:53.200 What's the Garmelk effect?

00:03:54.500 The law of physics that states if one girl screams for something, it will make other girls scream.

00:03:59.140 And then it grows exponentially until all girls within a five mile radius are screaming.

00:04:04.400 So how do boy bands use that?

00:04:05.820 All they do is make videos showing tons and tons of girls screaming for the boy bands.

00:04:10.280 Once you get girls screaming, you can't stop them. They're crazy.

00:04:14.120 And that a lot of the modern leftist movement is just basically delusional women standing for

00:04:20.540 a form of, like, authoritarianism. It's not whether they understand it or don't understand it.

00:04:28.580 They find it to be alluring. And this sort of wider social movement sort of bubbles some people to the

00:04:35.660 top and some perspectives to the top that don't need to pass any sort of logical filter. That's not

00:04:42.280 the point of the opinion. It's about filling a certain, for a larger zeitgeist. So that's,

00:04:51.080 that's what we're going to go into there.

00:04:52.740 Wow.

00:04:53.320 But before I get into that, I want to go in to what I was saying when I said that there is a

00:04:59.880 portion of the right that is just as foolish as these two girls hanging outside of a cap.

00:05:05.440 Right. And this portion of the right is, of course, the Groypers and the larger Fuentes

00:05:10.660 movement. And people know that I've, I've said like things like I'm, I'm against the cancellation

00:05:15.320 of him. I am for platforming him. I think the ways that people like Ben Shapiro have treated him

00:05:19.900 has been absolutely atrocious, but I also just want to be like, but he is not shy about the type of

00:05:29.700 government he wants to set up. And so if you look at the government that we have within Iran right

00:05:34.460 now, if you're not familiar with it, it is a religious theocracy where they have a supreme

00:05:39.760 leader. And then he appoints a council of religious scholars and leaders. And I'd, I'd point out that

00:05:46.000 these are, you know, genuine religious scholars and leaders. This is not like crazy people or like

00:05:52.640 a cultish version of this branch of Islam, right? Like this is a real iteration of this branch of Islam

00:05:59.280 and that the laws that they are putting into place are the laws found within Islamic texts.

00:06:05.580 And we're talking Shia, not Sunni Islam, correct?

00:06:09.180 Yeah. But it's, you know, Sunni Islam practice, as the text says, is just about as brutal as Shia

00:06:13.980 Islam practice. Yeah, sure, sure.

00:06:16.180 And we'll get into here where people are like, oh, come on. You know, in Christianity, you know,

00:06:21.580 nothing is, it's our, our religious books aren't that brutal if we practice as the text. And it's like,

00:06:27.420 they really are. Like even Charlie Kirk pointed out when somebody was like, oh, religion,

00:06:32.140 like Christianity is really about loving and blah, blah, blah. And he goes, well, you know,

00:06:35.940 there's a lot of things that you get stoned for, you know, like not honoring your father and mother

00:06:40.800 or being gay or, you know, a number of other things, right? Like we have to be realistic about

00:06:45.420 what he's actually saying. Cause I think a lot of people just like these two leftists did,

00:06:48.780 if you want to understand how you could be a young leftist girl who was just angry with the system

00:06:54.100 and not really listening to what the leaders of your movement are saying they want to do when

00:06:58.360 they're in power. I think it's easy to not, this is not me dunking on the Groypers or Fuentes or

00:07:05.000 anything like this. It's easy to say how this happens to people by looking at what I think even

00:07:13.360 most Groypers know Nick Fuentes say he wants to put in power as a system. So just to go for some

00:07:19.820 quotes here, for example, he says, I'm a 12th century man at the UN and the internet and

00:07:25.840 democracy. So note here when Iran is shutting off the internet all the time, when people are saying

00:07:30.480 things that go against the religious order, they have no note. They also have an elected body that

00:07:34.240 sort of operates under their religious body, which seems similar to the way Nick would probably set

00:07:37.540 things up. If he was setting it up, he'd have a religious body with religious scholars trying to

00:07:41.980 do things in a 12th century style, as he says, and then underneath that, some sort of a democratic

00:07:47.740 body. I'm not even saying just full theocracy here. And would this be the type of government

00:07:53.880 who would regularly shut down the internet and free speech? Well, he says he's against the internet,

00:07:57.960 very clearly. And he says, you know, what has democracy gotten us? Obesity, low rates of

00:08:04.180 literacy. It's given us divorce, abortion, gay marriage, liberalism, pornography. Again, these are

00:08:11.660 all things that they're also against in Iran, that the theocratic government of Iran is also against.

00:08:18.680 He says, that's what democracy has gotten us. Ghettos and crime and political correctness,

00:08:23.780 diversity. Yeah, that's the track record of democracy. So I note here, as we go further here,

00:08:29.820 because you might say, well, I do agree with him on the diversity point. What you're going to notice

00:08:33.480 pretty soon is when he says diversity, he means non-Catholics. He is very clear that he wants the type of

00:08:39.240 government he puts up to be a Catholic and a very Catholic government like this. And so I think that

00:08:44.720 we need to go back to what did Catholics in the 12th century do to Christians who were not Catholics,

00:08:50.480 right? You know, because again, he's signaling to you. And this reminds me of a story I've always

00:08:55.300 had of a friend of mine. Were there Christians who were not Catholic in the 12th century?

00:08:58.540 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were killed. But very severely. Martin Luther didn't exist in the 12th

00:09:03.920 century. There were non-Protestant, non-Catholic factions of Christianity. They were just entirely genocided.

00:09:09.840 Oh. The reason you don't know of them is because they were-

00:09:14.500 They don't be dead?

00:09:16.000 They were systemically exterminated. I think there's like one surviving faction. And they're

00:09:20.920 basically just an earlier iteration of Protestants. A lot of them believe stuff very similar to what

00:09:24.940 Protestants today believe. They were just more systematically exterminated. So-

00:09:29.100 T.A.L.

00:09:30.000 No, but the reason that this gets to me, because it's all fun and jokes like here,

00:09:34.440 like it was for these two girls riding in the car, right? Clearly they're like, oh,

00:09:38.520 they had heard people. And I could go over quotes, but it's probably boring of a lot of people at the

00:09:42.460 time, like in the U.S. being like, are you not listening to what the leaders of your movement

00:09:45.860 are saying? But it reminds me of actually a Jewish guy I know who had escaped the Holocaust,

00:09:50.880 older guy, grandfather of a girl I was dating. And he had this story about how he literally like

00:09:59.100 tried to go door to door within his Jewish community with a copy of Mein Kampf and said,

00:10:06.940 you need to read this. You need to read what he's saying he's going to do. You effing, like,

00:10:14.560 like he's laid it out. Okay. This isn't a joke. He clearly wants to do this, right? Like,

00:10:22.540 and he went through the community door to door with the book. And eventually he became sort of a

00:10:28.300 pariah in his community and was seen as a crazy person. I've told you this story before.

00:10:32.260 And so he eventually broke out of his parents' house in the middle of the night,

00:10:36.240 shattered his girlfriend's window and ran away with her. Unfortunately, he made the

00:10:41.040 catastrophically stupid move of running away to Poland. And then when Poland was taken running away

00:10:48.800 to Russia, which then when they tried to genocide everyone, I think he then went to China before

00:10:55.340 coming to the United States, basically just the wrong direction. But the, the point being is that,

00:11:00.340 you know, you can have these moments in history where certain parties are signaling what they want

00:11:05.220 to do. And this matters because you can be like, well, Nick Fuentes is a fringe political figure.

00:11:09.800 And yet Joe Rogan joked on his show recently that if we were going to put a Catholic, you know,

00:11:14.880 presidential Republican candidate in place, that Nick Fuentes would be a good candidate for this.

00:11:19.480 And don't worry, I'll get to the Iran stuff really quickly, but I just want to continue with this

00:11:22.100 because I think it's important to understand these girls. We need to understand why somebody

00:11:25.860 like Nick Fuentes seems desirable within our own community, even though he's signaling all the

00:11:30.660 same things. He's signaling a government exactly like this, that he wants to set up. And by the way,

00:11:35.140 if you're wondering about the scale of the atrocities we're talking about in Iran right now,

00:11:37.580 we're talking about like 20,000 people dead potentially at this point, just gunned down in

00:11:42.160 the streets. It's, it's, it's horrifying. So he says Catholic autocracy, pretty strong,

00:11:47.260 pretty strong record, Catholic monarchy, Catholic monarchy, and just war and crusades and inquisitions.

00:11:53.080 No, he's saying he wants to do this stuff, right? The crusades largely justified. I'm going to argue

00:11:58.380 the inquisitions were sometimes in the later period carried out much better than the Protestant witch

00:12:03.080 hunts. But you argue in the pragmatist guide to crafting religion that like, essentially there was

00:12:08.380 due process and logic and a burden of proof required that you didn't see with Protestant witch hunts,

00:12:15.680 where it was just kind of more delusional. So right. But the point I'm making here is,

00:12:22.500 you see very few Protestants today, you wouldn't hear me as like fervent as I am on some of this

00:12:28.580 stuff saying, we need to go back to aggressive witch hunts within like America's cities and stuff

00:12:34.940 like that, right? Like, I understand that they effed that up. I have said that you shouldn't.

00:12:38.580 I mean, you've jokingly said on many occasions, and we've certainly implied heavily that you can't

00:12:44.000 abide by a witch, and we hate witches, and we've made fun of all the Etsy spells, and we talk about.

00:12:49.900 Right. But I have not, I have not said that we need to go back to the types of witch hunts

00:12:54.380 they had in the early Protestant movement.

00:12:56.620 Sure. We don't want to create a police that goes around arresting people for being witches.

00:13:01.320 But, but he's signaling that this is actively, I mean, he brings us to the Inquisition and stuff

00:13:05.580 like this. The Inquisition is also Protestants, right? Like there's Inquisitions that targeted

00:13:10.240 Protestants and Mormons. And you know, if you're, if you're anything else out here, just, just be

00:13:15.040 aware of that. And Catholic heritage, if you're Catholic and slightly the wrong way. So just be

00:13:19.860 aware that this is what he's signaling, right? And if you look at other things he said, for example,

00:13:24.500 he says, I want this country to have a Catholic media, a Catholic Hollywood, a Catholic government.

00:13:29.740 I want this to be a Catholic occupied government. So if you contrast that with say what the Ayatollah

00:13:36.900 would have said during this period, who would have said, I want this country to have an Muslim

00:13:40.820 media, a Muslim Hollywood and a Muslim government, right? Like this is what he wanted. This is the

00:13:47.480 structure that he wanted. And, and he, he's noted very clearly here. He says that Catholicism is more

00:13:55.680 Christian than Protestantism. He, he is very, very clear on this stuff. And he'll say stuff like we're

00:14:01.940 in a holy war. We need to make them die in that war. And, and, and note here, or, or I want a

00:14:07.740 supreme leader, totalitarian Christian dictator, even using the terms of the Iranian state to sort

00:14:14.080 of describe the government he wants. And I think that the mistake that people make when they hear

00:14:19.740 all of this, as I think these girls did, is they're like, well, we're on the same side now.

00:14:25.720 Surely they won't come after us just because they're saying they plan to come after us once they're

00:14:30.100 in power. And, and, and that, well, look, when we meet with the, the Muslim like leaders and our

00:14:37.000 protester communities meet with them, they're not like murdering us at those meetings and stuff like

00:14:40.820 that. Right. So that like, who would do that? How would they actually go that far? You know, how would

00:14:46.380 they, I mean, I just think it's very important that you, that you look at the face value of what

00:14:51.020 somebody is saying their goals are, because you can find yourself supporting catastrophically

00:14:57.640 stupid things for yourself without realizing that you're supporting catastrophically stupid

00:15:03.860 things for yourself. Because you, you think that it's a joke or a protest or an F you to the man

00:15:09.740 without understanding what happens when they get into power and, and also how bad it can go. So

00:15:15.620 suppose, you know, you go back to these girls back in the time and they'd explain this to me,

00:15:19.580 but like, you don't understand. Like the Ayatollah is like a cool guy. Like, look, I, I drove by a car

00:15:23.900 holding his picture. Right. Like, and he's going to appoint like religious scholars who have appointed

00:15:28.860 and spent their whole lives, like studying their religion. And, you know, didn't you know that

00:15:32.460 like Islam is the religion of love? Right. And like, and you can point out here, people can be

00:15:36.940 like, well, Catholicism really is the religion. And I'd be like, even Catholics know they've got some

00:15:40.560 really dark periods from like the 12th century to today. And, and they can be like, well, these modern

00:15:46.520 religious scholars, they're not like that. They wouldn't advocate for things like that. And it's like,

00:15:49.900 yeah, they might. And, and, you know, once they have total power, they might. So now I want to go

00:15:56.460 to, before I go further, do you have any thoughts, Simone? I just want to hear more. I want to

00:16:02.540 understand why the leftist influencers that are really big online have come out in favor of Iran.

00:16:10.420 Yeah. So, well, I mean, the reason I went over that first thing is I think that whenever somebody

00:16:15.080 looks unbelievably foolish to you and, and you just can't understand how they would do it,

00:16:21.100 you need to look for a, a simulacrum of what they were doing that you can mentally emulate with.

00:16:27.600 Okay. So you're, you're trying to set the premise of, all right, maybe people cannot understand

00:16:32.760 caliphates, but they can maybe understand the Catholic equivalent of a caliphate.

00:16:40.060 You can, you can, what I'm, what I'm saying is if it's, you know, if you want to understand like

00:16:46.260 these girls cheering for a guy who's saying, I want to set up a theocratic state that will

00:16:50.440 eventually exterminate you, you know, this is no different than a Protestant or an atheist

00:16:56.080 cheering for the Groypers, right? Like this is a, they're, they're very explicit in their long-term

00:17:02.980 goals, right? Like, and they can say, well, we're a big tent movement for now as these guys did back

00:17:09.060 then, but they won't always be right. Like once they have authority, they've, they've laid out

00:17:14.520 what they want that authority system to look like and what they want that media control system and

00:17:19.040 that education control system to look like. And so it may not seem as cool or edgy if you're looking

00:17:25.160 at the type of conservatism that we represent, right? But it's a type of conservatism that is,

00:17:31.920 is realistic in terms of being cogent with the long-term thriving of most of the parties in the

00:17:38.780 current conservative umbrella, right? And, and I think that that's, that's why, you know,

00:17:45.000 instead of just saying, oh, they hate America, they hate all things, the left, oh, they were

00:17:48.600 totally duped. Don't, don't fall into the hole where you so straw man your opponent that you lose

00:17:54.160 the ability to understand what they were actually thinking in the moment. And the easiest way to do

00:17:59.480 that is to see it from within your own party. Because I think most people who watch this show

00:18:05.020 can probably understand, you know, liking and enjoying seeing somebody like Nick Fuentes,

00:18:12.280 you know, totally throw Piers Morgan into a trash bag, right? Like that was hilarious, right? Like,

00:18:18.960 but, but we have to be aware of what at the end of the day he represents and what would happen if he

00:18:25.540 won or became the face of the conservative party. Okay. Next, I want to go to Hassan Piker. So before I

00:18:31.320 get into his post, which I'll go into, because Hassan Piker is the number one leftist streamer right

00:18:35.040 now. Is that, is that, is that like, it's not destiny. It's not, because I don't, I don't know

00:18:39.580 who the top leftist streamers are. They follow a lot of leftist content creators, but streamers,

00:18:45.660 I don't know. He is the, the top and he's been beaten by Azmagol. He used to be the top top and he

00:18:50.700 has been, because he's been losing followers a lot. Azmagol is not a leftist streamer. Oh, but you're just

00:18:55.400 saying in terms of his commentary streamer period. Whoa. Okay. Wow. Or political streamer. I think

00:19:01.920 there was one above him. And then Azmagol became the top political streamer and he's been crashing

00:19:06.000 out since then. Mostly since Gaia Kate. Did you know he shocked Kaya again? There's a new video

00:19:10.720 that he can look like he's gone back to it. He just can't, look at our video about why Muslims can't

00:19:14.800 help but shock dogs. I mean, it's just a cultural difference. It's not like I'm not trying to be

00:19:18.100 Islamophobic here or something. We point out that some cultural groups just have a very,

00:19:22.720 like the young Turks who his, his cousin named his organization after killed 80,000 dogs when

00:19:30.440 they took power and saw it as like this big progressive thing to do. Wasn't it for rabies

00:19:35.260 control though? The 80,000 dogs? No, that wasn't for rabies control. That was just more for like

00:19:39.960 cleaning up the city. Oh. Well, they didn't just like murder them. They put them all on an island

00:19:44.900 where they starved to death and ate each other. So it was slightly worse, but. Thunderdomed them.

00:19:49.340 That's all. Side note, side note to, to, to go further here. If you look at his arguments on

00:19:55.740 stream, so I've like taken time to watch him on stream and we'll go into quotes in a second,

00:19:58.800 but I want to get his larger like idea. Like he clearly struggles at time to come up with an

00:20:03.560 argument about how they're like worse than America, but the argument he eventually comes up with,

00:20:09.440 and I can understand it from his perspective. So you gotta, you gotta see the world from his

00:20:14.040 perspective. Okay. Take a step back. He does not mean what you immediately take him to mean. So if

00:20:20.400 you're like an idiot, like I dubs or something, which we'll get to, he genuinely believes that like

00:20:26.260 you're allowed to like sing and dance on the streets in, in, in Iran, which you can't, you,

00:20:32.420 you sort of can was in the Capitol. Now this was because of a previous protest, but for a long time,

00:20:37.260 it was illegal when this guy would have grown up with it being illegal. And it still risks the jail

00:20:41.420 sentence. So just for clarification, right. Um, wow. But he'll, he will say things that are one

00:20:49.940 true ish. He'll say that like, they're really chill to trans people in Iran. Like they're,

00:20:55.060 they're, they're unusually pro trans. Well, and that's, isn't that, it is, I believe true that

00:21:00.840 there are Canadians and United States citizens who travel to Iran for gender transition surgery,

00:21:07.900 because it has been pioneered there more effectively and more cost effectively, I should

00:21:12.000 say. So this isn't, so it, this, this requires context, but it's a factually true statement.

00:21:18.260 It is. So in Islam, not, not all branches of Islam, but it was in a few branches of Islam.

00:21:22.860 The appropriate thing, if you are a same-sex attracted male or a same-sex attracted female

00:21:28.660 is to be forced to undergo gender transition.

00:21:31.940 Right. I mean, it makes on a surface level, logical sense, right? If, if you are, if, if you

00:21:38.820 have a woman attracted to a woman, the equation is incorrect. We need to have a man attracted

00:21:42.680 to a woman. So what's going to solve the equation is to turn one side of that equation into a man.

00:21:48.300 And so there's a lot of gay people to unelectedly undergo this surgery.

00:21:54.300 Yeah. But that means that there has been, because of this forced transition, an unusual level of

00:22:03.180 medical innovation in Iran and specifically cost-effective medical innovation.

00:22:08.020 Exactly.

00:22:08.500 In places like the UK and the United States, people need to ethically transition. People have to,

00:22:13.000 to go through all this approval. You can't do harm to people.

00:22:16.580 Well, they don't worry about the future lawsuits. They don't worry about medical practice.

00:22:21.720 And so you're able to get genuinely innovative medical innovate, like developments that are so

00:22:30.120 useful to genuinely, you know, trans people in Canada and the United States and other countries

00:22:36.160 that are very progressive, go to Iran to get, to get gender affirming care. And, and when asked

00:22:43.920 about the conflict between their morality and their progressivism and their choice to support a medical

00:22:50.900 system in a country that forcibly transitions people, they're like, well, capitalism ruined

00:22:56.660 everything. I can't afford it.

00:22:58.140 Right. But so you've got to understand this from Hassan's brain perspective when like he's

00:23:02.140 cheering to the crowd, right? Hassan, I am sure is very aware that you will be executed for being gay

00:23:09.400 in Iran, right? Like this is a, a regular thing. You'll be executed for being Christian in Iran.

00:23:14.180 Although there's actually only one state official case of that. Most of the cases are extrajudicial

00:23:18.400 and they used to kill Jews more, but they don't kill them as much anymore.

00:23:20.900 So wait, it's true. So that means you have like a get out of jail free card if you kill a Christian

00:23:25.740 because. No, it means that the gangs like consider them like the KKK or something like that,

00:23:30.880 go around and we'll like kill Christians. Right. But are they, if I were. Extrajudicial,

00:23:36.760 it's illegal. Okay. Okay. Well, so, well, my question though is, is, is, are they prosecuted

00:23:44.620 when they commit these crimes? That's a pointless question. If you have regular extrajudicial killings,

00:23:50.960 that's like saying, do members of the KKK ever get prosecuted? Sometimes they did. Okay. Usually

00:23:56.720 they didn't. That was my question. No, it is, it is meaningful. There are some laws on the books

00:24:01.660 that people regularly break and no one, no one will arrest them for it. Like many states were very,

00:24:08.860 very late to change their laws around interracial marriage, but people got married and they were

00:24:15.000 like, well, of course we're not. That's ridiculous. But the point I'm making here is if you look at a

00:24:19.060 country like Iran, so like right now in Iran, the Jewish community, now the community went from like

00:24:24.320 80,000 to like 3000. And this is one of the things we always point out in Israel, you can be any

00:24:29.200 religion. Like there's all sorts of different religions in Israel. If you look at like every Muslim

00:24:33.060 majority country, they have kicked out the, the Jewish population and usually the Christian

00:24:38.100 population as well, but they still have a person in the government. Like they elect a Jewish

00:24:43.640 representative for the government to represent. To the point of making it. Literally just the token

00:24:47.400 Jew? Like there's one spot for them. They're literally like more sensible, the Iranian government

00:24:53.780 than the government that Nick Fuentes wants to set up. He did not say he wants like Protestant

00:24:57.840 representatives or something, right? He's like only Catholics. Okay. So. No, but my question

00:25:03.920 is, is it, is it this like the Jew role, like the Jew representative role? Is that how it works?

00:25:09.160 I'm just. Yes. Yes. It's like a millet system. Like they, they, they elect. Okay. In their

00:25:14.100 community. Okay. The Jewish representative. Okay. In the voting body, the Jews of Iran. Wow. Okay.

00:25:20.780 Sorry. That's just, that's interesting. I had no, I'd never heard of that before. It doesn't mean

00:25:24.360 that they're still not regularly killed and stuff like that, but it's just a thing. But they have a

00:25:27.520 representative. That's nice. Yeah. So, so you've got to keep in mind. Okay. So you're Hassan,

00:25:33.520 you're talking to, it's like girls spamming heart emojis at you. You got it. You got to get the mob

00:25:38.180 fervent, right? So if you can point out, and honestly, that Iran is actually pretty decent to

00:25:46.120 trans people overall, it is irrelevant what they do to, for example, gay men, because in the current

00:25:53.140 progressive hierarchy, gay men are mostly traitors. As we've pointed out, we're, we're probably going

00:25:58.480 to move soon to a point if demographics keep moving as they are to the point where the majority of gay

00:26:02.860 men are voting Republican. So it went with that being the case with this rapid shift of gay men

00:26:08.940 into the Republican party. They just don't care about gay men. And that's the majority of the people

00:26:14.220 who are being killed within this system. And to them, gay men are one of the oppressive classes and

00:26:19.780 keep in mind to them. This is, this is, I guess, white passing gay men. They're Persians. They're

00:26:23.880 not even Arabs. Right. So, you know, like who cares if you fall off a building? Right. So I think

00:26:29.180 genuinely that that's, that's part of it. If they're standing transness, it is irrelevant what

00:26:33.900 they do to the gay community. And you actually sort of see this more broadly. Like when you make a point

00:26:38.820 to a leftist that them protecting, you know, like recently there was the case of the trans individual

00:26:43.760 who was masturbating in a woman's locker room at like a fitness program. Another thing I found out

00:26:49.360 about because it's all right. But anyway, this, this, there are, you know, people standing this

00:26:55.040 and I, and in the episode where I went over that, I like posted comment boards, like from the top of

00:26:59.980 like, you know, LGBT subreddit saying like, this is a totally normal thing to do. Women do this all the

00:27:05.300 time. How dare you get mad at him? And, and everybody knows that this, this hurts the gay community.

00:27:10.660 Right. But they don't care. Right. Because they, they genuinely, what matters to them is they,

00:27:16.360 they have a, a, a sexual and ethno hierarchy. And genuinely, if you're not at the top of that

00:27:22.540 hierarchy, you simply don't matter. You simply don't matter. And I think it's, it's, if, if,

00:27:30.300 if your needs, even your life is being contrasted with somebody else who is in the hierarchy,

00:27:37.360 right? This, this is how that works out in the moment. So he's able to make a defense like that.

00:27:41.880 The second thing is when he talks about the United States being worse than Iran,

00:27:46.140 you have to remember that he is including. So if you look at the protests and the people who are

00:27:53.320 dying in Iran right now, he sees that as a direct result of American foreign policy.

00:28:01.000 So what he would say is, you know, when you talk about how hard it is to be an Iranian,

00:28:06.660 and the other thing I'd note is one of the reasons we waited for a while to do the Iranian episode

00:28:09.860 is we did an episode about two and a half months ago. If you, if you go through our backlog where

00:28:15.920 I say there is going to be a revolution in Iran in the near future. And I went through all of the

00:28:20.660 reasons there was going to be a revolution in Iran. And if you want to go over that episode to

00:28:23.820 understand why the revolution is happening, look it up. The point I'm making here is I go to the

00:28:28.920 sources that I go to for information. And the reason I find them to be good sources of information

00:28:32.380 because they accurately predict things. Yeah. And one of the things that I like now is we're moving

00:28:37.620 more and more into a world where I think it's pretty uncontrovertible that we are better predictors

00:28:41.880 of future geopolitical events than Peter Zion. He's, he's made a few really big blunders recently.

00:28:47.320 Caracas was a fortress and you couldn't do anything to get somebody into there. He said that he's been

00:28:51.140 famously always against Bitcoin, whereas we are pro Bitcoin when it's low and when it's high,

00:28:56.680 we offer more caution. You know, so like, I think that, and note here, when I said that my prediction

00:29:02.180 on, on being worried about Bitcoin, I said, it will crash after two, but we're not even one cycle

00:29:07.820 after I made that prediction. So this is still, we get to see if I'm, I'm, I'm right on this one.

00:29:14.540 But if you, and by the way, I made that prediction saying that quantum computing was a big threat.

00:29:20.440 And then a month after I made that, there was a huge thing of FUD around quantum computing.

00:29:24.440 It wasn't me on that. I was, I was well before that FUD. I said that this FUD is about to happen.

00:29:29.580 But anyway, the, the point I'm making here is it's useful. Like if you're like, I,

00:29:34.600 the reason why you listen to political commentators is they understand the world. And if you understand

00:29:38.020 the world accurately, that means you can make predictions about future world states and,

00:29:41.640 you know, sort of play the game. But he, he believes that all the suffering of the Iranian

00:29:46.360 people is not due to government incompetency. In that episode, we point out that like,

00:29:50.480 you can't blame America on Iran's idiotic dam project that ended up starving them of water,

00:29:56.460 which is a bigger issue for them than their economic system right now. Like the, the,

00:30:02.480 what they ended up doing after the protests around the water is they ended up just starving all the

00:30:06.360 rural areas, which are easy to control of water and, and, and the flowing it all to Tehran.

00:30:11.140 And that lowered those protests. But the point I'm making is like, if you look at like the,

00:30:16.060 the, like, if you look at the, the city streets collapsing into giant sinkholes and

00:30:20.300 people dying weekly, that like shocked me when I saw that.

00:30:23.700 Don't do one. You and I are uniquely terrified of sinkholes. I guess everyone should be, but.

00:30:28.980 I love you.

00:30:29.940 You know, yeah. Like this, this, this can happen to you. Just one day you're walking on the street

00:30:32.740 and Iran, gone. And that, that we pointed out that this, this is also has nothing to do.

00:30:39.800 You can't blame this on America, but he's unaware of all of that.

00:30:41.960 And I genuinely think he is just unaware of Iran's water crisis. He's unaware of, he is unaware of

00:30:50.940 learning information in the same way that, you know, Greta Thornburg, when they said, Hey, Greta,

00:30:57.640 do you want to hear the opinions of like, do you want to, do you want to see the video of like,

00:31:02.380 what this video filmed by Hamas of what happened on, on the October 11th attack? And she's like,

00:31:07.480 no, I won't watch the video filmed by Hamas of what they were proud of doing, right? Like,

00:31:13.100 because it might change her opinion. So I think for him, he just doesn't gather this information,

00:31:17.180 right? Because if he does gather this information, then he might transform into, if you watch the

00:31:22.920 video we did recently on this brainwashing game that they put out in the UK, that the bad options

00:31:28.000 happen. If you say, I want to learn more about that, right? Like that's considered, by the way,

00:31:32.920 you know, they took the game down, Simone? They did? Gosh.

00:31:38.540 If you say, I want to learn more information, you get the bad ending, right?

00:31:44.960 This is the worldview of somebody like, and he means this absolutely genuinely. He thinks

00:31:51.840 that if he goes and searches for information that may disconfirm his beliefs, Greta Thornburg

00:31:55.880 believes this as well, that they're just going to completely crash out, right? Like they're just

00:32:00.860 going to completely descend into the side of evil. Well, I feel like they're in a better position

00:32:08.240 because they, they stand to lose their careers, their livelihoods, if they alienate their audiences.

00:32:17.040 So they, they are now having been subject to audience capture and path dependency in that

00:32:23.540 dangerous position. We alienate our audience every other week. We did an episode. Yeah. And it's not

00:32:28.940 our livelihood. Is it Malcolm? We're not making a living from this. Are we? I, I just point out that

00:32:35.000 we just did an episode hard critical of Judaism and like, I would say two weeks ago. Yeah, but we're

00:32:42.280 doing that because we're not afraid of losing our income because we're, we don't make an income from

00:32:47.160 this. Hassan Piker and, well, I don't know what Greta Thornburg does. No, I, I just, I just disagree with

00:32:51.740 your take here. He's probably a trust fund kid. Not everyone has to be audience captured if you're

00:32:55.680 making an income from something. And we, we then do an episode like this one. Well, I guess, yeah,

00:32:59.860 Asmongold doesn't care, which is just so wonderful. But he doesn't flip. He does not go as hard.

00:33:04.520 Asmongold wouldn't do what we do, like an episode where he's like, and these are why anti-Semitism is

00:33:09.300 actually rising. And to talk about that, we need to talk about why people are getting angry at the Jews,

00:33:13.460 right? And then this week we're doing an episode where we're like, and Nick Fuentes is,

00:33:17.180 you're actually like a genuine buffoon as buffoonish as these two girls are. If you want to see his

00:33:24.820 world order put into place, if you are using him as anything other than a tool to move the Overton

00:33:30.460 window, if you are unironically a stan of him, people will laugh at you the same way they laugh

00:33:36.020 at these two girls. And I take these perspectives because I think that they're both true. If you want

00:33:41.060 to talk about why anti-Semitism is rising, you need to talk about things that Jews are doing that

00:33:47.140 are pissing off other people, right? Like that, you can't just say every, every part of this is

00:33:54.020 somebody else's fault. You need to say, oh, well, this is, this is part of why, right? Like if you,

00:33:59.320 if you want to talk about realistically the Nick Fuentes movie, you need to say realistically the

00:34:04.920 government he wants to put in place is more extreme and anti-your interest than the Iranian

00:34:09.580 government. But anyway, the point I'm making here about Hassan's worldview. So when he looks at Iran,

00:34:16.720 and he says, and his audience can hear this and understand it, that all of the people protesting

00:34:22.420 right now, and he would see them as violent insurrectionists, that they are protesting because of the

00:34:28.300 sanctions that America put on Iran. And, and you would then say, well, as Asmogol did, he's like, well,

00:34:33.980 you know, but why, why, why do they have those sanctions? And then he would say, well, he doesn't go so far

00:34:39.400 to make this argument, but I'm just going to argue from his perspective. He'd say, well, they were

00:34:42.700 trying to make a nuclear weapon and who else has a nuclear weapon? The United States, Israel,

00:34:50.300 Israel doesn't just have a nuclear weapon. They have a nuclear weapon whose plans they stole

00:34:56.420 from the United States and built without our permission, right? Like it's, it's not just,

00:35:04.020 you know, he would say, I can understand if Israel says we need this nuclear weapon for our own

00:35:09.180 protection, how Iran could feel equally that they need a nuclear weapon for their own protection,

00:35:16.340 right? Like if you're just standing them there and, and I can understand all of that, right? I still

00:35:21.880 think that it was not in their long-term economic best interest or the best interest of their people

00:35:26.180 to enact these policies that cause these protests. They were probably better off trying to form good

00:35:31.680 relationships with Israel in the United States than what they did. But I, I, there is, there is a

00:35:37.480 degree of merit in that claim, right? I would just say that unfortunately, Iranians aren't quite as smart

00:35:45.400 or Persians. Okay. But let's not say they're not quite as smart as the Jews. Israel as a state and

00:35:51.460 Jewish culture lent itself to them being able to build the bomb in actual secrecy. While Iran has not

00:36:00.040 been able to, it's, it's not competent enough to build the bomb in actual secrecy. And so every

00:36:04.580 time they get a new leader building it or something, they get assassinated, you know, Iran could have

00:36:08.280 stopped Israel from building the bomb if they had, they were in a position of relative power back then

00:36:13.240 while Israel was in a position, Israel wasn't always this strong state we see today. They used to have

00:36:16.820 like no tech, very few friends, but anyway, back to this situation, back, back to, back to talking about

00:36:23.480 Iran here. So, so if you put the world in this perspective, the people protesting, and then you're like,

00:36:28.920 well, what about the people gunning down the protesters? Then he'd say, well, like, I wish

00:36:32.480 I could gun down the Nazis in our own country. Right. Because, you know, he sort of frames

00:36:36.820 and if somebody opened up, you know, the way that he and many of the other people who will go over

00:36:46.840 that they'll talk about somebody like the assassination of Charlie Kirk, they are genuinely

00:36:51.000 happy that something like this happened. You know, they think he deserved it. So when they see people

00:36:55.540 protesting the Iranian government, they believe the same thing. And note also how I pointed out that

00:37:01.160 the leftist movement is becoming more future-oriented Islamists. Like they sort of accept that the gays

00:37:06.420 won't be around forever, that the trans are going to disappear after this generation. And so who are

00:37:11.780 they building the world for? They're building it for the next discriminated class, right? Like the

00:37:19.180 Islamists who they're going to bring into our countries, right? And hopefully one day they win.

00:37:23.220 No, this does come from a loathing of Western civilization more broadly. Yes, I agree with

00:37:29.460 that. Yeah. But it's not just a loathing of Western civilization. It's that they believe that Islamism is

00:37:36.100 like genuinely a good and misunderstood thing. When they enter the movement, there's become this thing

00:37:41.900 now where Asma Gold like watched a video of it and he was like, oh, I feel so sorry for the Islamists now.

00:37:46.300 Where like white progressive Karens are like converting to Islam and like wearing hijabs and everything.

00:37:52.300 But then bashing out on their streams about Muslims not being inclusive of trans people

00:37:56.620 and gay people. And it's like, you know, and I think a lot of the Muslim community similar to,

00:38:05.860 and they're good about this too. These groups that aim to one day take over and create these

00:38:10.420 theocratic states, they're very good about humoring these crazy people when they're in the room with

00:38:16.220 them, right? Let's go to some of his quotes on Iran. Any kind of leftist position on Iran should start

00:38:21.780 with a demand that the American government end sanctions in exchange for demands of democracy

00:38:26.780 or anything else for that matter. I cannot believe that we're past this point. Obama got the JCPO done

00:38:33.540 with sanctions relief! Then another, I want people to get food and medicine. I don't believe that America

00:38:40.400 is a benevolent actor. It has its own regional interests. The Iranian people absolutely have a

00:38:45.560 right to protest against their repressive state. Sanctions relief was a common liberal position

00:38:50.220 more than a decade ago. So you'll note here, and he's obviously said the other one I've said that

00:38:55.140 Iran is no better than America. But here he's talking about the downstream consequences. So like,

00:39:01.340 if you point out like life is bad in Korea to him, he'll be like, but that's not because of the

00:39:05.140 Korean state. That's because of our trade stations. If you point out that, you know, this is just sort

00:39:11.180 of like his world perspective on a lot of things. You know, he's able to go to China and be like,

00:39:16.180 China is great. China is better than America, even though, you know, they're literally carrying

00:39:19.840 out genocides. That is irrelevant from his world perspective if it helps his long-term goal,

00:39:26.360 which is in part a destruction of Western civilization. But I think it's important to understand that these

00:39:32.240 people who want to destroy Western civilization and live among us, if you cannot understand

00:39:38.780 that these people are your core enemies, right? And this, this is where I think like

00:39:44.180 groyperism gets wildly stupid. Well, no, hold on here. Remember me here though. Isn't there a little

00:39:51.000 bit of that? People used to talk about the far right to crunchy hippie horseshoe or pipeline in the,

00:40:00.060 at either end of the spectrum, you kind of got to the same place where you either get Maha super

00:40:05.800 conservative homesteading Christian moms. And then at the other end, you have homesteading pagan

00:40:11.620 hippie moms, but they all functionally are the same thing. I kind of feel like there is something very

00:40:17.940 similar between the original drain the swamp, burn it down sentiment that got Trump elected in 2016.

00:40:26.280 And this burn the system down to the ground, groundswell that you see both among groypers and

00:40:35.780 Hassan Piker fans who are just like, whatever it is, this system, they'll give it different names.

00:40:41.080 They'll call it late stage capitalism or the point I'm making.

00:40:44.880 You really don't think so? I mean, I don't know. I'm just like, but maybe these are the same thing.

00:40:48.140 You look at Nick Fuentes and you look at when he ranks the people who are threats to us that we

00:40:53.920 need to be aware of and working against. It is mainstream conservatives who genuinely love our

00:41:00.160 country. A lot of mainstream conservatives, they may have different opinions than people like you

00:41:03.740 and me, but they genuinely love America and want America to thrive, right? They want Western

00:41:08.180 civilization to thrive. It is, you know, people like JD Vance's wife, you know, like Indians in America

00:41:14.020 or the Jewish, like Orthodox Jews in America, right? And if you look at Orthodox Jews, you know,

00:41:19.340 they're a community that is, well, Jews overall are left as Orthodox Jews are rightest these days,

00:41:24.040 right? Like these are people who side with us on most policy positions. They side with us on most of

00:41:30.320 the things that we want to achieve in the country. And many of these people, yes, even many Latin

00:41:35.300 American immigrants, not the ones we want to get rid of, but many Latin American immigrants love America,

00:41:40.820 right? Like many Indian immigrants love America. And I don't think that you need to say, oh,

00:41:46.180 they're the same as every other American, but they're certainly not the threat that the Karens

00:41:51.920 and the Hassan Pikers are, that the white women are, right? Like that the average white woman Redditor

00:41:59.020 is, right? And when you hide that it's these people who make these video games, like the one,

00:42:06.240 the brainwashing games, this is not a Jew. This is not an Indian immigrant. Well, maybe I'll look it

00:42:13.740 up, but chances are it is a white woman. Actually the character of Amelia, it turns out it was based

00:42:19.940 on a white woman who is the head of something at the studio, just the physically and the way she

00:42:23.780 dresses. Oh, they just made her evil. Evil by their views. But the point I'm making here is that we

00:42:31.580 cannot, we, like the, the existential nature of the forces arrayed against us right now is so great

00:42:40.540 that when you get distracted and begin to isolate, segment, split potential allies to our movement

00:42:49.740 in a way that emboldens and empowers and helps groups win, that have the agenda that the Hassan

00:42:58.120 Pikers and the Greta Thornburgs of this world have, they want our genuine extermination. Like that is,

00:43:05.220 that is the long-term plan here, right? That is why they will not allow you to say,

00:43:13.200 hey, there could be some negative externalities for unchecked immigration within our country.

00:43:18.900 That was, if you say, if you agree with that in that game, you do, you cannot help, but then have

00:43:25.780 a racist burnout in class. That's not a racist opinion. That is an economic, potentially factual

00:43:31.200 opinion. It's something we should be able to have a discussion on. And the only reason why you would

00:43:35.140 prevent that discussion is if you had some alternate agenda here. Now, as I've always said,

00:43:40.080 the Great Replacement series, it's obviously a conspiracy, but I do think it's interesting that

00:43:44.880 Hillary Clinton ascribes to this conspiracy. See our video on that, where she literally says,

00:43:49.560 this is the point of this. We need to bring these people into the country because the native

00:43:55.100 population is not having kids right now. And what is that? But the point I'm making here,

00:44:02.860 broadly, broadly, is do not forget about the existential evil that is at the heart of our enemy

00:44:08.880 and their real goals. Well, let's continue with other left-wing sources here. Okay. Okay.

00:44:13.560 So this is Jackson Hinkle. So Jackson Hinkle is a American political influencer. He has around half

00:44:19.960 a, oh, no, sorry. He has 2.5 million followers on X. So very, very big, right? Okay. Yeah.

00:44:25.000 He says, we stand with Iran, all exclamation marks, all capital, multiple posts.

00:44:30.520 This is not a good book. I stand with Iran, do you? No. No. Okay.

00:44:36.480 He says, in response to recent foreign-backed riots in Iran, mass pro-government protests have taken

00:44:42.940 place. This is, you know, obviously done by the government here.

00:44:48.260 He says that these are Mossad riots in Iran and have failed.

00:44:55.020 Mossad riots. Oh, is that? Oh, okay. That's a theory.

00:44:58.120 Iran right now will only unify the Islamist Republic. So like, they really buy into all of this,

00:45:03.820 but I just think he's somebody with his brain turned off. I think if you look at Hassan's tweets,

00:45:08.280 they seem to understand, like, staying in the realm of, like, understanding reality and trying

00:45:13.200 to shape it his way. This guy is just saying stuff that's not true, right? Like, now,

00:45:18.260 do I think that Mossad could have had a hand in these protests? Yeah, honestly,

00:45:23.100 they could have. Although it's less Mossad style, Mossad seems to be more about direct

00:45:28.100 assassinations. Yeah. Or targeting very small amounts of leadership. It's more of a Russian

00:45:34.140 thing to try to get. Yeah, this is more of Russian. I don't think that Russia is doing this.

00:45:39.180 No, no, no. But just in terms of diplomatic styles, styles of diplomatic manipulation,

00:45:44.540 Mossad is all about very surgical targeting of influential points or leadership, whereas Russia

00:45:53.640 seems to be more, let's affect the grassroots. Yeah. And if you are unfamiliar with just how

00:45:59.460 aggressive or successful Russia is on this, look at our episode where we point out with copious

00:46:04.500 receipts that Russia AstroTurf BLM. And it's- That was a fascinating episode. You blew my mind

00:46:10.760 knowledge and it's weird that people on the right don't talk about this. I think they want to

00:46:15.440 pretend that Russia is like the right's friend. It is not. It is one of- Because we also did that

00:46:21.680 episode on how Russia even has a visa program specifically designed for people moving to

00:46:29.720 Russia for cultural reasons. They're trying to broadcast to America that, well, we're the place

00:46:35.160 for conservative values. Meanwhile, they are the reason we have the trans movement we have in

00:46:41.620 America now. They are the reason we have the BLM movement we have in America now. Yeah, well, yeah,

00:46:45.100 they're poisoning the well here and then saying, oh, the water's fine over here in Russia. But they

00:46:50.580 don't really care about bringing Americans out. But the point- Not really. They're creating this

00:46:54.540 perception. I'm just trying to say that's the perception. Be aware of the groups that are genuinely

00:46:59.240 and successfully turning our country against us versus the groups that we may have ideological

00:47:06.100 disagreements with in the moment. And we may think America would be better if they weren't in our

00:47:10.680 country, but that we can form a cohesive, larger movement together with them to achieve aims for

00:47:17.020 everyone and build and say, like, this is how we achieve the aims of all of these wider conservative

00:47:22.060 forces. And then say, but X group is genuinely just bad actors, right? Like genuinely, like,

00:47:30.680 for example, Nick Funtos has always said, don't vote for like any major conservative candidate. And

00:47:34.020 everyone knows if JD Vance wins the next ticket, he's going to say, don't vote for him. You know,

00:47:38.200 he said, don't vote for Trump. He's going to, he's genuinely a bad actor. Russia is genuinely a bad

00:47:42.800 actor. When you, when you make this big tent, you know, you can, you can have your American Indian

00:47:47.540 immigrants in it, but say, but you guys need to compromise on this H-1B visa issue because it's

00:47:51.940 genuinely really bad for a lot of people. And it's genuinely really unfair for a lot of people

00:47:56.040 if they're willing to compromise, right? You know, but you, you, you, you cannot have Russia.

00:48:03.600 You, you, you cannot have Russia, right? Like Russia is actually against us. Actually, before I go

00:48:08.900 further here, I want to talk about, is it a good idea for Trump to go in and do in Iran what he did in

00:48:16.220 Venezuela? Hmm. Do tell. The answer is no. No, probably not. Well, I saw a headline, I think

00:48:26.140 just this afternoon that was along those lines of basically what Trump had said. Trump said that

00:48:31.940 there is no surgical action that the United States could take, which would take out the Iranian

00:48:37.220 government. And therefore that casts into doubt the utility of any particular intervention.

00:48:42.920 Oh, is Trump sane and smart? Oh, no, I could see us taking some sort of surgical action or a few

00:48:50.320 surgical actions, but I don't think they're going to look like what we're doing with Maduro.

00:48:53.440 So here's why. Iranian system of government, Maduro basically went in and he was terrified of anyone

00:48:59.920 else with a degree of competence, having power was in the country. And so he assured that those people

00:49:05.420 didn't have power. And there weren't a lot of competent, like second in commands that could come in

00:49:11.060 and begin negotiating with the United States. Also, even if they did, they had a degree of like

00:49:17.880 potential, okay, on our side, we can work with us. Not only that, but that's in our backyard. Like

00:49:22.540 Venezuela is in our backyard. Iran is not. So it's tough to say that we couldn't do it. But if you went

00:49:28.520 in and you took out like just the Ayatollah, you really haven't done that much to disrupt the Iranian

00:49:33.540 government system right now. They just put in the next person in power and it would still be an

00:49:38.280 Islamist government, right? It's more robust. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, we have a bit of a past

00:49:44.320 with this. Yeah, we've, we've tried to do this in Iran before and that's how we got in the current

00:49:49.580 situation. Didn't go so well. There's some baggage, you know. Yeah, there's some baggage. Yeah, I do not

00:49:55.300 think that that is. So there's, there's the worse if we fail in any way or even if we do it, it could

00:50:04.460 embolden the government and saying, now you see the protesters, they're definitely working with

00:50:09.120 the United States so we can go and hunt them down, right? Like even right now, you've got the

00:50:13.240 situation where they are charging families for the bullets. They are charging families for their

00:50:19.480 children's bodies, right? Like they are really trying to make this hurt as much as they can for

00:50:25.800 anyone involved in this, right? Like they, this is true psychological terror that they are enacting in

00:50:31.160 the country right now. But if we engage at this point, it's now, see, I told you so. And

00:50:39.280 the, the protesters and stuff like that in Iran, they cannot fight back. So like in Venezuela,

00:50:45.520 we're able to, also there's the issue of oil, right? Like Venezuela has oil that we can take

00:50:52.060 over because it's often offshore and they're contracting with American companies. Iran does

00:50:57.520 have oil wealth, but it's not oil wealth that we are going to easily capture value from,

00:51:02.140 even if we have a sympathetic government in power, right? That, that would just be fairly foolish of

00:51:07.840 us. If anything, it would kind of hurt the United States because it would hurt the value of our oil.

00:51:12.260 The oil interest in Venezuela is much more viscous than our oil. So it sells into different markets

00:51:16.240 in our oil. But right now, America is a, an exporter of oil, right? Like we sell oil to Europe.

00:51:22.360 So if we open up Iran and get them a lot more efficient, that's not necessarily going to be

00:51:28.900 awesome for us. Now, the other, other things are, it wouldn't necessarily achieve as much as

00:51:33.980 Venezuela. We don't really have the geopolitical justification to it that we do in Venezuela.

00:51:38.180 We, it, I also just don't see it going any, anywhere in the direction we want to go in the

00:51:43.000 Middle East. More broadly, what's going to happen in the Middle East is the region is going to continue

00:51:47.460 to secularize and it is secularizing pretty aggressively. I think we might see a reversal

00:51:52.160 in secularization as AI gets popular. We've done an episode on this where people point out that AI

00:51:56.280 is actually very protective of religion because like, if I go online and I, you know, tell me about

00:52:01.580 Islam, right? I'm going to get a bunch of anti-Islamic stuff, right? If I ask an AI, tell me about

00:52:06.920 Islam or help me with this like theological quandary was in Islam that I can't easily walk through

00:52:12.440 myself, it's going to explain it to you in a way that is, you know, beneficial to Islam, right?

00:52:17.220 Like it's not going to try to deconvert you. Whereas the internet is the exact opposite.

00:52:20.460 You're now in a Reddit hole trying to deconvert you, right? Yeah.

00:52:26.000 So, but that's, that's going to take a little bit to, I do expect just wider deconversions

00:52:30.840 because Islamism is one of the, okay. So like, obviously Islam historically did do great things

00:52:38.900 in the field of science, civilization, war, but they did also massacre tons of people. I think

00:52:44.600 the answer is around 300 million people during their conquest, which puts them way above people

00:52:49.080 like Hitler, way above people like Stalin, you know, but the point here being that while Islam

00:52:55.960 did have periods of cultural flourishing, the actual structure of their religion, if you,

00:53:01.220 if you like study it, it's one of the less coherent of the Abrahamic face and one of the more

00:53:06.780 obviously dumb. It's one of the ones that as I study it, like, okay, I point out religions that

00:53:14.960 as I study appear a lot smarter and more coherent than when I first started studying them. Number

00:53:19.900 one is Mormonism. Yeah. Appears way more coherent the more you study it and the more you engage

00:53:26.360 with the counter arguments. The lore is good. It's been like the fact that Joseph Smith, you're like,

00:53:33.660 oh, he had a bunch of wives, right? Like how horrible is this? And then they point out,

00:53:38.180 you know, that he has no genetic offspring today. Not one person who can provably prove to be a

00:53:45.040 genetic offspring that wasn't with his primary wife. And when you see that, all of a sudden,

00:53:49.520 you're like, people would claim to be descended from Joseph Smith if they were right. And we would

00:53:55.600 be able to see that in DNA. Like that would be a point of pride for those families. How did he not

00:54:00.380 conceive was a single other one of these women? And then that makes the Mormon argument that he

00:54:05.200 was really just doing it because he wanted them to support people. But it's like, but some of these

00:54:09.460 women had husbands. And then you could say, well, these husbands may have been abusive or something.

00:54:12.960 You just go into it and you're like, well, that, that at least seems saner than I originally thought.

00:54:18.120 Yeah. Because it seemed dumber the more I study them is, I really hate to say this, but we have

00:54:22.940 like a four hour tract on this. The question that breaks Judaism, Judaism. I was incredibly enamored

00:54:28.000 by Judaism when I first started studying it. The more I study it theologically, the less coherent

00:54:33.460 it seems. And the more like fundamental internal problems it seems to have. And even just like

00:54:38.240 thematic problems from my, my faith perspective, it seems to have, which we go over in that episode.

00:54:43.300 And, in, but was, but was Islam. I, frankly, the reason we haven't gone into the problems with

00:54:47.500 Islam yet is they're just so numerous and so big. Even when I talk about the question that breaks

00:54:53.560 Judaism, I try to be two-sided in it. Like I'm trying to like, well, here is the Jewish

00:54:57.860 side. Here's the non-Jewish side. If I tried to go too deep into Islam, it would just be like,

00:55:02.420 this is dumb. This is dumb. This is dumb. This is dumb. This is just like a not even wrong kind

00:55:07.380 of situation. It's that bad. Yeah. Oh no. Yeah. Well, and like pointing out that like Mecca is

00:55:14.600 probably not even Mecca. Like you're probably all praying in the wrong direction and we can look at

00:55:19.940 earlier ruined sites and show that. I mean, there's, there's kind of the bigger question of like

00:55:25.380 the point of many religions isn't to be logically cohesive. It is to be, it's, it's a kind of

00:55:34.100 different solution. You know, people have framed to us Judaism, not as something that was ever

00:55:38.700 supposed to be a coherent religion, but rather a cultural technology for, you know, promoting

00:55:45.740 human development and flourishing and, and, and civilizational cohesion.

00:55:50.160 I hear that. I hear that, but that's not what I want for my family. And so when I'm ranking a

00:55:54.400 religion, I'm like, sure. I'm just trying to say like a religion isn't necessarily a failure

00:55:59.400 because it's lore isn't logically consistent. And as we have pointed out in the other episodes,

00:56:04.720 Judaism produces some pretty great results and that makes it a good time. It becomes a failure

00:56:09.160 if its lore causes people to deconvert when it clashes with modernity. Yeah. But the thing is,

00:56:17.600 I'm not seeing people who lean into Orthodox Judaism deconverting.

00:56:22.600 No, I agree.

00:56:24.600 Well, and as I pointed out, I mean, I think that the Jewish, you know, they've been to an extent

00:56:29.280 genetically isolated so long that they may have some sort of like resistance to parts of like the

00:56:33.420 mysticism within the tradition that my, my descendants wouldn't. Right. So, you know,

00:56:37.780 my thought there is, is this could just be a me thing, right? That these, these contradictions

00:56:41.840 appear much bigger, but with Muslims, the contradictions appear to like get into them.

00:56:45.680 Now the iDubbs thing that they got in trouble. So this used to be a really popular YouTuber.

00:56:50.280 And then he had this, this wife who pushed him. She's like an only fan streamer and used to be

00:56:55.080 like popular. And it's just like a generic leftist. And he used to be a generic, like shot content

00:56:59.460 creator. And she pushed him more and more in the Hassan direction. And I actually think it's the wife

00:57:03.720 who politically radicalized him. Yeah. Well, his wife has like a crush on Hassan, which she talks

00:57:09.020 about all the time. Oh, and she's talking about these, these progressive YouTubers who have wives who do not

00:57:15.440 back them. They do not. Oh no. She said that he would only be attractive to gay women. She said

00:57:21.220 that he could do gay porn. He says that Hassan is everyone's type. Oh my gosh. Hassan is not

00:57:27.680 everyone's type for the record. Yeah. But she, you know, she thirsts after, I think that that's why

00:57:34.520 Hassan is so big that he can be somebody who like, if you're mindlessly like in the crowd of leftist

00:57:39.860 women screaming and not really engaging with any ideology, you do drift towards the, the hot Muslim,

00:57:46.980 right? Like that is the thing. And I think that we're going to increasingly see the quote unquote

00:57:51.420 hot Muslim be a thing within leftist intellectual circles. I mean, it's not surprising that if you

00:57:57.700 look at the, what the other like top leftist streamer, Hassan's uncle, Igor Gurk or whatever,

00:58:03.540 however you pronounce his name, you know, Muslim or Muslim descended streamer, right? Like the other

00:58:08.700 thing here I'd point out here when you could say, well, like bring, bring like, why don't you set

00:58:15.020 up democracy in Iran? Like, we don't even know that democracy would work in Iran. Like look at our

00:58:19.880 video before you crash out guys. I know that you're Persians. Okay. But you are genetically linked to

00:58:27.500 Arabs. And you can look at our video that democracy has never once in human history lasted for a long

00:58:34.640 time in an Arab majority country. I think the thing was, it's more than 35 years. And that's crazy

00:58:41.620 because there's like 25 or 23 Arab majority countries and they have a very, very long history.

00:58:48.680 And yet, if you look at Protestant majority countries, the majority of them almost throughout

00:58:53.720 their entire history have been democracies, not their entire history, but huge chunks of their

00:58:59.000 history. We go into the statistics and that they're just basically implausible that there's not a

00:59:03.000 cultural thing at play here. Now the thing with Iran is when they were ruled peacefully was by a

00:59:06.840 Shah. It was by a King. Like they're probably better reinstalling a monarchy, but the United

00:59:11.360 States and Trump can't do that with the current political world. Also, it doesn't even matter.

00:59:16.660 Like Iran is not a threat to anyone anymore. They're about to fall apart as a major political

00:59:21.920 power. Again, watch our video where we were predicting these protests. They have no kids. Their

00:59:26.620 fertility rate is effing garbage for their income level. If I put up a map on screen here,

00:59:32.300 you can say it's terrible. It's terrible. Fertility rates across the country, except in like the least

00:59:37.420 economically developed regions. And these people who are having kids in these economically developed

00:59:41.460 regions, they are not going to be relevant in the future. They have no water. So they have no

00:59:45.740 agriculture in the future. Yeah. It's dire. Oil will become less relevant. They have no AI.

00:59:52.300 They can make drones good. And that's it. Yeah. What remind me, what was their big industry?

00:59:57.300 I can't. Oil. Oil. Just oil. Only oil. Oil. There has to have been more than that.

01:00:05.720 They could have a diversified economy, but they don't. They had a diversified economy,

01:00:11.060 but it's sort of fallen apart. So yeah, Iran is just in a terrible, terrible position.

01:00:16.640 And it's so terrible and so weak a position that it is not relevant to us in the future.

01:00:22.180 If you look at like what Trump did, I really liked that he like hasn't gotten us involved in

01:00:25.580 trying to take over Venezuela. We want their oil. We want them to stop being as egregious

01:00:30.180 in their abuses. Other than that, whatever, right?

01:00:33.480 Yeah. You do you. We're not going to.

01:00:35.100 You do you. Stop being China and Russia's B.

01:00:38.500 Because Iran, it's sort of like a, why doesn't Saudi Arabia go in and take over Iran? Okay.

01:00:45.820 The reason being because their military is laughably bad. They basically don't have one.

01:00:50.220 We could take over Saudi Arabia tomorrow. It'd be easier to take over Saudi Arabia than it

01:00:53.340 would Iran, to be honest. They have tons of top of the line equipment, but nobody knows how to use

01:00:59.040 them. And they're Arabs and Arab militaries always interfight with each other and can't carry out

01:01:04.460 large, complicated actions. I'm sorry. I'm not saying that they can't at like a genetic level

01:01:10.180 or something. I'm just saying that historically they never once have.

01:01:13.460 You're saying logistically there, there are some kinks to work out.

01:01:16.600 No, no, no. I'm just saying that like, huh? Look at, huh? I mean, it is interesting that

01:01:24.340 culturally speaking, they've never once been able to. Huh? Huh? They've tried a lot. They put a lot

01:01:32.200 of money into it. They've been able to do things like the, you know, the Yom Kippur War, like

01:01:37.900 multiple countries at once jumping a country that had a less developed military at the time

01:01:44.160 and no nearby allies. Huh? How'd they all get their butts kicked so hard? Huh? That they lost a ton

01:01:51.040 of territory and somehow are still crying about it. Huh?

01:01:54.900 Unit 101. Did you know? Did you know? 183 aliens have some sort of weapon built into their physiology?

01:02:04.900 Are aliens inherently violent? Hmm. Interesting.

01:02:09.160 Did you know? Did you know? Some aliens are single mothers on a genetic level. I wonder

01:02:16.040 if it affects the behavior of the children. Hmm. Curious. Tell them about Per Capita. I'm getting to it.

01:02:23.560 But really, Muslim majority countries have been comically bad at waging war against non-Muslim

01:02:30.620 majority countries. Unless you go back to, like, the Middle Ages. It feels a bit like this going to war

01:02:36.700 with a Muslim majority country. Can I please just get one victory? Once!

01:02:45.180 Now don't start that! Don't you do it!

01:02:49.500 Aaaaaah!

01:02:50.940 Won't you smash them all?

01:02:52.280 What? No, man. Look. These guys aren't going to quit until they win or die. And they're not going to win.

01:02:58.200 So, what if we let them win? Just this once?

01:03:00.760 What?

01:03:03.960 Oh, no! My blood!

01:03:10.440 Victory is ours!

01:03:14.120 Oh!

01:03:14.920 Oh!

01:03:18.120 This is ketchup?

01:03:20.280 Q-King, wait up!

01:03:22.760 We want to apologize for being fakers.

01:03:25.640 No one will ever fear our strength.

01:03:27.800 But strength isn't your strength.

01:03:29.320 Pretending to be victims is.

01:03:31.000 Can I use it to control others?

01:03:33.000 Um, yeah, sure. Just be righteous about it.

01:03:36.280 But the point I'm making is, like, if we wanted to do something...

01:03:39.640 I thought Malcolm.

01:03:40.280 No, no, I think it's...

01:03:44.360 I actually think that countries like the UAE, which, by the way,

01:03:46.760 we've got to talk about that situation in Yemen, just completely lost Yemen.

01:03:50.040 And the Iranian...

01:03:50.920 The Iranian factor, the Houthis, have basically taken over Yemen.

01:03:53.800 So this should be good for Iran, right?

01:03:55.560 Like, they're gonna...

01:03:56.200 They got the oil reserves.

01:03:57.640 Wait, is this something that just happened?

01:03:59.480 I'm not familiar with this.

01:04:00.440 That just happened.

01:04:01.560 They're breaking off from the other two factions,

01:04:03.320 the UAE-backed faction and the Saudi Arabia-backed faction.

01:04:05.880 Oh!

01:04:06.520 And, you know, it should be a big woo for...

01:04:09.400 For Iran, but nope.

01:04:11.400 And so, and the UAE faction and the Saudi Arabia faction

01:04:14.920 can't even take out this faction, right?

01:04:16.840 So, right, you can't even take out Yemenese.

01:04:19.880 So Saudi Arabia, Yemen is right on your effing border.

01:04:22.920 You children.

01:04:24.520 You need to do what you always do.

01:04:26.440 What you do for your accounting,

01:04:28.040 which is hire a bunch of Saudis and have them sit in a corner

01:04:31.640 and then hire a bunch of Jews and white Protestants

01:04:34.840 and have them handle your books, have them handle your military

01:04:38.600 and actually get this stuff done.

01:04:40.520 That's actually been their, like, actual strategy

01:04:43.480 in, like, Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

01:04:44.760 And it's worked pretty well for them so far,

01:04:46.920 except they don't do it in their military

01:04:48.440 because they're too afraid to do it in their military.

01:04:50.600 But they should.

01:04:51.480 They should do it in their military

01:04:53.160 because it would actually work.

01:04:54.760 I mean, they'd literally, they'd literally be better hiring Russians.

01:05:00.920 Sloths.

01:05:02.360 Sloths.

01:05:04.600 I mean.

01:05:10.120 It's interesting.

01:05:11.000 Yeah.

01:05:11.400 Well, then what do you think is going to happen to Iran?

01:05:13.320 I guess, I mean, my general assumption, you know, if I'm,

01:05:18.120 if we're talking about my subconscious that doesn't put a lot of thought into it

01:05:21.480 in a sleep battle that doesn't actually care that much

01:05:23.800 because I just don't think this affects the United States

01:05:25.880 or my livelihood or my work that much,

01:05:28.040 which I think is the position of most Americans.

01:05:30.600 It's only discussed because we all discuss world events

01:05:34.040 as the new water cooler thing.

01:05:35.480 There is no shared TV show that everyone watches.

01:05:37.640 So we talk about Iran instead and Venezuela

01:05:39.880 and the United States and tech developments and the economy.

01:05:43.480 I just assume that basically there's going to be unrest, unrest, unrest,

01:05:46.760 and maybe some token political change that may or may not have been nudged

01:05:54.520 along by one or more foreign governments, but functionally not much changes.

01:06:01.480 Maybe there are some moderate reforms.

01:06:03.400 Like this does move the Overton window of some, some stuff in Iran, but Iran cannot change

01:06:11.640 its demographic or climate-based problems and headwinds.

01:06:19.480 They are not climate-based. They are bureaucracy-based.

01:06:22.360 Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:06:25.080 Don't forget the water situation in Iran that we discussed.

01:06:28.440 Don't forget this.

01:06:29.240 Yeah, I just said, Iran's water situation has nothing to do with global warming.

01:06:34.040 It has to do with, well, it might have a little to do with it.

01:06:36.280 I'm not, when I say climate, I didn't say climate change.

01:06:39.560 I said, I just said climate.

01:06:41.080 But it's not, it's not downstream of climate.

01:06:43.880 It's downstream of the bureaucracy of the Iranian government and the corruption,

01:06:46.840 which is, I'm not going to say that Persian populations are more prone to corruption.

01:06:52.120 What I'm saying though, is you can't change what has been done.

01:06:54.600 The aquifers are drained. Okay.

01:06:57.800 You can't change that.

01:06:58.920 And therefore the Iranian government is just going to slide into greater obscurity over time.

01:07:06.120 Well, I mean, this is why you don't set up governments like this.

01:07:09.640 If you set up a government like this in a Catholic majority country, you'd end up the same way.

01:07:13.640 Yeah. But my argument here is, is, is one, most people don't really care.

01:07:17.160 They're only talking about it now because it's trending and that's what we do.

01:07:20.200 And based on all of the factors at play, Iran is going to become even more of a backwater.

01:07:25.640 It is not going to become a major player.

01:07:28.040 It's not important.

01:07:29.240 And sadly, if I were Iranian or I had friends in Iran, I would be encouraging them to get out

01:07:34.120 and build a new life somewhere else.

01:07:36.040 The government is going to collapse eventually, not necessarily due to these protests.

01:07:40.040 I'm saying like within 10 years.

01:07:41.400 Yeah. Well, they're just, it doesn't, it doesn't have, it doesn't have

01:07:45.640 hooks that will bring it into the future.

01:07:47.640 It doesn't have some demographic asset.

01:07:50.680 It doesn't have tech assets.

01:07:53.080 It doesn't have climate assets.

01:07:54.760 It doesn't have agricultural assets.

01:07:56.600 It doesn't have rare minerals.

01:07:59.320 It has oil.

01:08:00.280 It has oil, but yeah, yeah.

01:08:02.920 But there's, there are many, many other places with oil and oil is going to become,

01:08:07.720 especially with the rise of nuclear, which I think more and more people are countries,

01:08:11.720 businesses, private entities are investing in is going to become less relevant.

01:08:16.840 So I just don't see anything that would, would act as a deus ex machina for Iran.

01:08:22.360 And therefore, if you're there, get out.

01:08:24.360 If you're invested in it, divest, just sell, sell, not good.

01:08:30.280 It has, you don't need to worry about when something with no future is dying.

01:08:34.040 Yeah.

01:08:34.280 They have nothing you can loot from the corpse.

01:08:36.360 Yeah.

01:08:36.760 Aside from just, I feel really bad for people who are there and I hope that they can leave.

01:08:40.600 That's it.

01:08:41.000 That's where I stand.

01:08:42.040 But a lot of them have, like, keep in mind the reason you have so many Persian,

01:08:46.360 for like, I've got a lot of Persian, Persians are cool.

01:08:48.840 Like I like American Persians.

01:08:49.720 Delightful, wonderful people.

01:08:50.920 But the problem is, is saying I like American Persians is like saying I like American Cubans,

01:08:54.680 right?

01:08:54.920 Like there's a, there's a common factor in why they're here.

01:08:58.200 Right?

01:08:58.440 Like, and that's the thing with a lot of immigrants that come to the United States,

01:09:02.760 or at least historically have come to the United States is that they are uniquely smart and

01:09:07.000 competent and competitive.

01:09:08.600 And that's not the current immigrant wave, which we need to deal with.

01:09:11.160 I agree.

01:09:11.560 Well, that's the difference between refugee or open borders based immigration and high barrier

01:09:18.520 to entry immigration.

01:09:19.400 Big difference.

01:09:21.400 Yeah.

01:09:21.880 Yeah.

01:09:22.360 Yep.

01:09:22.920 So Iran will collapse and fall into obscurity.

01:09:27.480 And it is the fate of most governments that are structured this way.

01:09:31.480 The, the, actually about the only place where you really see authoritarian governments operate

01:09:38.040 really efficiently are in Protestant majority countries.

01:09:43.000 The few times there's been authoritarian governments and they, they almost never last in

01:09:46.280 Protestant majority countries.

01:09:47.400 Oh, so you're talking about Oliver Cromwell because that's the, you stand Cromwell.

01:09:51.800 That he was incredibly.

01:09:53.800 Aside from Oliver Cromwell.

01:09:57.000 Well, it depends on if you think that other group was an authoritarian

01:10:01.400 faction in a Protestant majority country.

01:10:03.640 What?

01:10:03.880 Like when Mormons tried to become separatists?

01:10:05.960 No, that group that tried to conquer Europe and nobody really likes.

01:10:13.160 They were economically pretty efficient.

01:10:15.080 Can we, I'm sorry.

01:10:18.920 I, I lack the mental acuity to know what you're referring to.

01:10:23.640 What group tried to conquer Europe and I cannot possibly be talking about.

01:10:27.640 Vikings?

01:10:30.280 Recently.

01:10:33.480 Russia?

01:10:34.200 Russia?

01:10:36.840 Our, our fans are actually like baffled by you right now.

01:10:39.800 Do you understand how little sleep I'm operating on right now?

01:10:42.920 I feel, I mean.

01:10:43.880 List on one hand, every group that's tried to conquer all of Europe and almost.

01:10:50.440 That is Protestant.

01:10:51.400 And that was Protestant majority.

01:10:55.240 Start listing on your hand.

01:10:58.520 Who has tried to conquer Europe recently?

01:11:00.760 List, list on your hand.

01:11:02.440 It'll take you two seconds.

01:11:03.400 Trump?

01:11:03.960 He's not Protestant.

01:11:04.840 It'll take you two seconds.

01:11:05.800 Just list.

01:11:07.480 All the groups?

01:11:09.160 All the groups.

01:11:10.120 List on your hand.

01:11:11.800 The AFD?

01:11:12.760 Is that what you're trying to?

01:11:13.720 There's literally only three groups.

01:11:15.640 Ever.

01:11:16.200 Isn't the AFD Catholic anyway?

01:11:18.120 There are only three groups ever.

01:11:21.640 I'm sorry.

01:11:22.360 You're going to have to dispel it out for me.

01:11:24.440 I don't know if you're talking about religious groups or.

01:11:26.920 One was Napoleon.

01:11:28.920 Okay.

01:11:29.160 Oh, you're talking about.

01:11:31.000 That's not recent.

01:11:33.000 Napoleon was Catholic.

01:11:34.600 Who did it after Napoleon?

01:11:37.720 They conquered France.

01:11:39.240 Then they conquered a large part of Russia.

01:11:41.800 They conquered.

01:11:43.400 You're not talking about the Nazis.

01:11:45.960 Yes.

01:11:46.360 How does that not jump?

01:11:49.000 Yes.

01:11:49.560 They were a Protestant majority group.

01:11:51.880 And they lost the war.

01:11:54.120 But they were economically efficient during the period.

01:11:57.160 But they lost.

01:11:58.600 They made.

01:11:59.240 But they were led by a Catholic.

01:12:00.680 And that was their problem.

01:12:03.400 Then they weren't a Protestant group.

01:12:05.480 They were.

01:12:06.040 I'm just saying.

01:12:06.760 Hitler wasn't Catholic.

01:12:07.720 Was Hitler Catholic?

01:12:08.600 I don't know.

01:12:09.000 Was he?

01:12:09.800 Was he?

01:12:10.200 He was born Catholic.

01:12:11.480 And then he became like Wiccan.

01:12:13.000 So then they weren't Protestant.

01:12:14.440 No, their leader wasn't.

01:12:16.760 And that was the problem.

01:12:17.640 But Germany wasn't Protestant either.

01:12:19.160 Isn't it?

01:12:19.560 Isn't Germany quite Catholic?

01:12:21.000 No, Germany is majority Protestant.

01:12:24.040 I mean, I would have thought so.

01:12:26.520 But then again, when we, when we were doing recent, like, fertility regulation research,

01:12:33.160 we discovered just how Catholic-influenced German legislation was.

01:12:38.120 And that's what threw me for a loop, I guess.

01:12:39.880 Yeah, Germany was 54 to 63%.

01:12:41.960 They weren't enough.

01:12:42.680 Okay, so it's not.

01:12:43.800 Okay, it is quite Catholic.

01:12:45.240 Okay, that's what I thought.

01:12:46.200 That's the way they fell apart when contrasted with Cromwell.

01:12:48.360 Okay.

01:12:48.920 Okay.

01:12:49.400 Okay.

01:12:49.960 Interesting.

01:12:51.400 Huh.

01:12:53.160 Sorry, guys.

01:12:55.960 I'm just a stupid woman, after all.

01:12:59.640 I'm just so.

01:13:00.840 When you think Germany, in your head, you think Catholic?

01:13:05.640 Yeah, I mean, after our look into IVF laws.

01:13:07.880 It's literally where the Protestant Reformation happened.

01:13:10.280 Yeah, but then they left.

01:13:13.000 And then, I don't know.

01:13:14.200 Yeah, when I think of Germany, I think of the amazing cathedrals, and I think of,

01:13:18.440 I think of their, now I think of their IVF laws, which are just super Catholic.

01:13:21.480 But I guess they're also, a lot of Lutherans are very anti-IVF too, so I should not forget that.

01:13:32.040 Oh, and just Protestants in general.

01:13:33.480 There's not a lot of Lutherans in the world, Simone.

01:13:36.120 Yeah, just Lime and Stone.

01:13:37.640 Just Lime and Stone, yeah.

01:13:38.760 He and his wife are trying, though.

01:13:40.200 They've done and still do a lot of missionary work, so.

01:13:43.480 Yeah, good for them.

01:13:45.000 Good luck, guys.

01:13:45.640 I think our technopuritan work's going to do better.

01:13:47.400 We're going to get full technopuritan.

01:13:50.840 They can have Earth, and we'll have everything else.

01:13:55.480 That's the plan.

01:13:56.520 And then Elonism will have Mars.

01:13:58.440 We'll carve out a little thing for Elon.

01:14:00.440 Elon's expansionism, yeah, or whatever it is.

01:14:02.840 I wonder, yeah, what his religion would be.

01:14:05.400 The tech priests of Mars.

01:14:07.640 Yeah, we would just call it the religion of X.

01:14:11.240 X is his thing.

01:14:12.360 He loves X.

01:14:13.640 Anyway, I love you, Simone, and it's fun to have these discussions with you and hopefully

01:14:18.760 bring ideas to people that you're not getting on the normal talks about this stuff

01:14:22.360 and perspectives that you're not getting.

01:14:25.480 You know, I know it's not unpopular to point out that

01:14:28.840 this is what Nick Fuentes wants from a governing structure, but it is what he wants.

01:14:33.720 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:35.800 Well, and I think that the bigger picture that people just need to kind of acknowledge

01:14:39.560 is a lot of people are talking about, oh, like the outrage of what's happening in Iran.

01:14:43.640 And like in the end, this is a sinking ship.

01:14:46.920 But the narrative in my mind isn't, you know, how do we reform this country?

01:14:51.320 It's just how do we get people out safely?

01:14:54.200 That's it.

01:14:55.240 That this, you don't want to be there.

01:14:58.120 You know, like this is one of those cases.

01:14:59.960 No, no, no.

01:15:00.440 It's how do we get productive people out?

01:15:02.120 We don't want a big refugee crisis either.

01:15:04.280 Well, we can send the refugees to places we don't like.

01:15:07.400 It's kind of like glitter bombs.

01:15:08.760 You know, you just get like Germany today.

01:15:10.680 All the refugees.

01:15:13.720 Here's some Iranian refugees.

01:15:16.840 They're sort of the center of the rot that's destroying the world right now.

01:15:20.120 Oh, I mean, you know, yeah, yeah.

01:15:21.880 But again, the point I want to end with is always remember

01:15:24.680 that these people like Hassan and the Karens,

01:15:27.880 they genuinely want a complete destruction of Western civilization.

01:15:32.040 There are many people who agitators on the right will try to get you to hate

01:15:36.760 that do not want a destruction of Western civilization.

01:15:40.520 Again, I just see so many echoes.

01:15:42.600 A lot of a lot of conservatives voted Trump into office in 2016, genuinely hating Trump,

01:15:49.080 or not at best not.

01:15:50.680 But that's not the point.

01:15:52.120 They just wanted Trump to break things.

01:15:53.640 And I think, you know, a lot of people are, well, I like Iran, not because I agree with

01:15:57.080 anything or even know anything about Iran.

01:15:58.680 I just know that Iran wants death to America.

01:16:00.680 So great. Let's do it. Like, I like Iran.

01:16:03.080 But that's not the point.

01:16:04.680 The enemy of my enemy is my friend, that kind of thing.

01:16:07.160 Right. But that's not the point.

01:16:08.680 I get I get that you say that.

01:16:10.760 I just don't really know.

01:16:11.720 So the point is, is that Trump, you might have supported Trump because you wanted him

01:16:16.200 to break the system.

01:16:17.320 But if you listen to what Trump was saying, he's not saying he wants to start an inquisition.

01:16:22.760 OK, if you listen.

01:16:24.120 But a lot of people just didn't listen to Trump, just like a lot of people just aren't listening

01:16:28.600 to Iran, which, to your point, a lot of people have said things about Iran that are just blatantly

01:16:33.080 not true, which is proof positive that they are not.

01:16:36.600 But you're not the same kind of idiot if you voted for Trump without understanding his policy

01:16:41.960 that you are.

01:16:42.840 I disagree. I disagree.

01:16:45.560 So you just think anyone who doesn't understand what somebody who they're standing for actually

01:16:49.960 represents is just equally buffoonish?

01:16:52.120 Well, think about it from this perspective.

01:16:54.680 We often talk about the various stages in the war or the the jihad of demographic collapse

01:17:03.560 and prenatalism. Right.

01:17:04.760 That right now there's a lot of groups that are all fighting in favor of of prenatalism

01:17:09.800 inheriting the future.

01:17:10.840 Right now we're all fighting collectively for cultural sovereignty.

01:17:13.640 We're united in this battle.

01:17:15.000 We know that there is a stage after this where some of them then turn on other groups and

01:17:20.760 are like, no, no, you're all going to be just like me.

01:17:22.600 We don't believe in cultural sovereignty anymore because now I have the power and the mandate

01:17:27.000 to turn on you.

01:17:28.040 There are stages of battles and what these people are logically thinking about, be they

01:17:33.880 Trump haters who vote for Trump or be they late stage capitalism slash imperialism

01:17:39.880 slash colonialism, like anti-colonialists or whatever.

01:17:42.680 You know, people who hate this system, where stage one is break the system and then stage

01:17:47.720 two is build the thing I want.

01:17:48.840 And their assumption at that point is, sure, Iran and I are allies now, and then I just

01:17:53.160 destroy Iran after that.

01:17:54.440 You know, I wasn't talking about Iran.

01:17:57.160 I was talking about Fuentes.

01:17:58.680 Well, I don't care, but you see my point is that there are stages to these things and

01:18:02.920 people will ally with people that they later plan to destroy.

01:18:05.720 Because the analogy I was making was the progressive girls who stand the Ayatollah being comparative

01:18:11.960 to the people who stand the Ayatollah.

01:18:13.960 Right.

01:18:15.160 That's the point I was making.

01:18:16.280 I wasn't talking about Iran today.

01:18:17.960 I was saying the progressive girls who stand the Ayatollah, if they had some sort of long-term,

01:18:24.040 the enemy of my enemy plan, it was retarded.

01:18:28.120 And it ended up with them being killed, right?

01:18:31.240 Like the-

01:18:32.360 Well, welcome to humanity.

01:18:34.040 We're not, you're the, you are unique and I love you for this.

01:18:37.960 And that you think of second and third order consequences.

01:18:40.360 You think several steps ahead and there, there are, there's a lovely 0.01% of humans who do that.

01:18:46.600 Guess what?

01:18:47.320 Most humans can think beyond the next five minutes.

01:18:49.560 Most humans cannot think long-term.

01:18:51.480 They think just in terms of now.

01:18:53.400 So no, yeah.

01:18:54.360 I mean, yes, I agree with you, Malcolm.

01:18:56.280 Those girls are idiots.

01:18:57.480 Now look at our entire economic system, our entire political system.

01:19:01.640 Can our politicians think beyond their next election cycle?

01:19:04.600 No, Malcolm, they can't.

01:19:06.200 But I can still judge somebody like a listener of this show.

01:19:09.320 Well, then welcome.

01:19:11.160 You don't even have to put mental thought.

01:19:14.280 You don't have to spend the tokens on judging because you can just assign an automatic assumption

01:19:19.400 that they're going to be idiots because that's, that's the 99.9% of the time you're going to be right.

01:19:23.400 Our fan base are not idiots.

01:19:25.400 Well, that's because they're a very small niche fan base.

01:19:27.560 And this is why we don't.

01:19:29.480 We only have autistic fans.

01:19:31.560 We, yeah, I'm just, but I'm saying this is a very, very, very small audience of very interesting and smart people.

01:19:39.240 This is not representative of the real world.

01:19:41.720 And that is why people.

01:19:42.840 Okay.

01:19:43.080 So we're running along with this episode.

01:19:44.840 We have to, the audience can enter in the comments who they agree with here.

01:19:48.200 Okay.

01:19:48.680 Definitely made it this long.

01:19:50.120 Love you guys.

01:19:50.840 Bye.

01:19:53.800 So I sent you an urgent test, a quest request, and it's for our fans as well,

01:19:59.560 which I need you to accept the mod request on Reddit because we're already getting warnings

01:20:03.560 for being unmoderated.

01:20:04.680 Ooh.

01:20:07.320 And we do have one of the largest subreddits now, the largest conservative subreddit on

01:20:11.480 the website by a significant margin, bigger than Joe Rogan, bigger than Asma Gold.

01:20:16.200 And it's actually a pretty fun subreddit.

01:20:17.800 And, and, and your only goal as a mod is to keep us from getting banned.

01:20:22.600 Okay.

01:20:23.400 That's our, that's our rule.

01:20:25.480 Let's get the minimum modding necessary to keep getting banned.

01:20:29.080 Well, so like I had to delete one today that was saying that what's her face deserved it.

01:20:37.080 Renee.

01:20:37.560 And saying that they were happy that she was shot.

01:20:40.680 But I was like, come on guys, come on.

01:20:44.520 Modicum of self-control.

01:20:45.720 I know when you're not the mod yourself.

01:20:50.760 It's tough.

01:20:51.800 It's tough to live in this world.

01:20:53.240 Okay.

01:20:53.560 Yeah.

01:20:53.720 I thought you actually want, you want us to actually mod, not just.

01:20:57.880 And if you, if you reach out about doing this, like, let us know how we know of you

01:21:00.920 from either like the comments or the discord.

01:21:02.520 Cause obviously we don't want somebody to come on and like kick all the other mods or something,

01:21:06.200 which, you know, people do.

01:21:07.240 Wait, you have a picture you can put in a picture.

01:21:10.280 Yeah.

01:21:15.400 Oh, there you go.

01:21:16.360 I didn't know that.

01:21:20.360 All right.

01:21:21.560 Well, actually the beginning of this episode, which I'll start soon,

01:21:24.520 is actually partially inspired by the subreddit.

01:21:28.440 Really?

01:21:31.160 Oh, color me intrigued.

01:21:33.480 All right.

01:21:34.360 Oh, how was the comments?

01:21:35.480 I listened to some of them.

01:21:36.680 They're pretty positive after a while on the gay episode.

01:21:39.400 Yeah.

01:21:39.560 They just pointed out you were wrong about the alien series.

01:21:42.600 And I was right.

01:21:43.560 Which is in number three, where she's impregnated.

01:21:47.880 Yeah.

01:21:48.760 Which is, I feel like I'm not a crazy person now because I haven't seen the third one.

01:21:54.920 And I don't think people would, I mean, a lot of people were like,

01:21:57.720 the third one doesn't exist.

01:21:58.760 We do not acknowledge the existence of the third one.

01:22:01.080 It was so bad.

01:22:01.960 It's not canon.

01:22:03.400 We reject it outright.

01:22:05.240 So.

01:22:06.200 Well, that's.

01:22:07.160 Yes.

01:22:07.560 Great.

01:22:07.960 All right.

01:22:08.280 Indie lab.

01:22:12.680 Indie lab.

01:22:13.800 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.

01:22:16.840 What is it, Indie?

01:22:18.680 What is it, Indie?

01:22:22.440 What is it, Indie?

01:22:26.440 What is it, girl?

01:22:30.360 What's up?

01:22:32.920 What is it, Curly?

01:22:39.720 What is it, girl?

01:22:44.440 Are you looking at the light flickering in the big hallway?

01:22:48.040 What's going on?

01:22:50.920 Wait, what?

01:22:53.480 What?

01:22:55.480 What, wait, what, what, who are you!

01:23:24.520 Who are you?

01:23:25.620 Wait, wait.

01:23:27.200 Where did you go?

01:23:31.460 Who are you?

01:23:32.520 It was actually pretty nice.

01:23:33.980 He gave me this.

01:23:35.400 It was so nice.

01:23:36.320 What?

01:23:36.700 Wait, what?

01:23:38.020 Mommy, he gave me this.

01:23:39.680 I have to make a table.

01:23:41.340 What?

01:23:41.960 I don't know.

01:23:42.580 I don't know.

01:23:43.360 Look what I gave.

01:23:45.560 He gave us these.

01:23:47.540 What?

01:23:47.820 I love him.

01:23:49.520 Wait, where did he go?

01:23:51.500 Where did he go?

01:23:52.920 I love him.

01:23:54.520 I love you.

01:23:56.700 He's so nice.

01:23:57.940 Andy, was that what you were staring at this whole time?

01:24:02.540 Now, dear boy.

01:24:04.200 Now tell that you believe him.

01:24:06.200 Tell that.

01:24:06.740 I need you.

01:24:07.240 You know what?

Based Camp - January 16, 2026

Iran Paradox： A Theocracy Built & Defended By Leftists (Understanding Why)

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