Based Camp - Is A Cult Using the Trans Movement for Cover？

00:00:00.000 you need to look at this like a kid who's going into this. You are in a group where you are being

00:00:06.240 teased for being different from whatever, right? Like everybody feels this way when they're going

00:00:11.940 through puberty. Your body changing, your body getting gross, stinky, things happening that

00:00:16.640 don't make you feel good. Extreme mood fluctuations, which of course make you more volatile.

00:00:21.900 Like women get hit hard by, you know, things that are moving them more towards feelings of depression

00:00:26.900 and extreme social anxiety as well. Like you, you feel like you stick out like a sore thumb,

00:00:31.700 you desperately want to belong. And yet nothing really seems to fit in terms of something you

00:00:35.540 belong to. Like all these things, it's just the perfect storm for, for some form of, oh,

00:00:42.320 this is a solution. And you're desperate for affirmation. Then you hear the,

00:00:47.120 this is the solution to all this. And keep in mind by the definitions of trans in today's society,

00:00:52.200 Simone and I are actually trans. I'm just pointing that out to point out that I have no animosity

00:00:56.020 towards this community. And I was in the GSA growing up, everything like that. This should be

00:00:59.760 as concerning to actual trans people. This should to everyone else, because it leads to these 1.00

00:01:05.900 individuals who are joining what is essentially an extremist cult beginning to represent the

00:01:11.140 mainstream trans movement. It actually transfers and just wants to live their life as the other 1.00

00:01:15.360 gender. These individuals aren't like that. They just want to preach the cult message. Like once they

00:01:21.740 join, all they care about is all of the things that differentiate the cult from the mainstream

00:01:26.320 cultural group. This is actually, I find to be the core difference between the trans cult and the 1.00

00:01:31.740 real trans movement. Would you like to know more? So Malcolm, I was at this grassroots political

00:01:36.520 event as I'm running for office now, great rep in Pennsylvania. And I got really frustrated

00:01:43.220 at this event. And I'm getting concerned in general about the points of focus among conservative voters

00:01:51.080 who I as a Republican candidate am courting, because they seem to be focused on important issues,

00:01:58.860 but the wrong things. So for example, as we've discussed in numerous podcasts, conservatives are

00:02:05.200 very concerned about the urban monoculture, essentially erasing their culture, you know, taking their kids 0.63

00:02:09.980 and making their kids hate them and leave their culture and generally be miserable people. And 0.89

00:02:16.000 you know, they don't want that. And they don't like seeing that happen. But then what they're focusing

00:02:21.060 on in terms of like actual local issues are things like, oh, they're making, they're, they're letting

00:02:27.920 anyone go into girls' bathrooms or locker rooms. And I'm like, dude, like teach, you know, teach your

00:02:35.500 daughter self-defense and have her punch out whoever comes at her in the wrong way. 1.00

00:02:43.260 I'm way more concerned about if I had a daughter in any school, public or private, her coming to me

00:02:50.440 one day and saying, I am in the wrong body and I am going to kill myself if I cannot change my gender 1.00

00:02:58.480 right now. Yeah. And I want to talk about this in like a wider context here. So I want to be clear

00:03:03.040 for our audience. I think that transness, so we'll talk about transness in different contexts here.

00:03:09.840 I think some historic, like true form of transness is a real phenomenon that happens to some

00:03:18.120 individuals. Totally. You know, if we do genuine, like if gender matters, right? Like if, if we do 0.61

00:03:25.220 actually have like an internal gender in terms of how we perceive the world, it would only be natural or 0.91

00:03:31.740 logical that some deformity within that would exist as well. That some individuals would be born

00:03:36.760 with the wrong sort of gender expression or gender impulses. But if we look at a horror historic

00:03:43.320 context, this is a fairly rare phenomenon, much rarer than something like being born with abnormal

00:03:50.820 arousal pathways in which you are attracted to similar gender individuals and stuff like that.

00:03:57.160 However, with that said, and this is what really got me interested in this this morning as I was

00:04:02.380 talking with my wife and she was like, if the trans movement existed, when I was in high school,

00:04:10.180 I would have been trans. If a movement had existed when I was going through these processes,

00:04:17.420 that because she had anorexia, she had intense body dysmorphia, where she felt really, really

00:04:26.520 uncomfortable with how she looked going through puberty to the point that it almost ended up

00:04:30.580 killing her. And it's why she cannot conceive naturally anymore. So, so she did extreme things

00:04:37.240 in an attempt to resolve this body dysmorphia that she had. If there had been a community that told her,

00:04:44.120 if you do X and Y, you will both be affirmed by a community. They'll tell you you're great. We love

00:04:50.040 you. You know, love bombing, however you want to put it. Like you, you are perfect as you are. And 0.98

00:04:55.800 that I would fix this for her, that she would no longer have this. She would have gone all in with

00:05:00.340 that community. And here, I want to point out that if you want to say no, no one is transitioning

00:05:07.860 because they feel social pressure or as a way to get out of feeling uncomfortable during puberty,

00:05:14.340 then you are denying our lived experiences. You know, Simone is saying, if this had been around,

00:05:21.820 I would have transitioned. And it was clearly have been the wrong choice for me, knowing what ended up

00:05:27.100 happening in my life. If you say this just doesn't happen, then you are denying her lived experiences.

00:05:32.440 And so, and keep in mind, she fits all of the demographics that are typically associated with

00:05:39.020 transness, right? Like IE autistic individuals like her are much more likely to become trans 0.90

00:05:45.580 individuals who are really high IQ, like in terms of output or like top of their class,

00:05:50.660 also much more likely to become trans. So she fits a lot of these. So when I look at this,

00:05:55.500 I'm like my kids that I'm having with this woman are of this category. And I say this

00:06:00.520 to not diminish actual trans identity, but to say that someone like her could have become trans,

00:06:09.200 could have been living life of the trans person today and not know that if they hadn't known that 0.81

00:06:15.440 was an option, they could have chosen a different life path where they would have been much happier.

00:06:20.680 Yeah. Or even like where things would have been less expensive. I mean, fully going trans can also

00:06:26.900 mean a lot of medical procedures, ongoing hormone therapy. It's just an expensive way to live kind 1.00

00:06:32.960 of how like my choice to be anorexic in my youth has led to very expensive IVF treatments and osteoporosis,

00:06:41.740 which is going to come back and bite me already. It's, you know, not great, you know, and, and all

00:06:46.240 sorts of other medical conditions. So, I mean,

00:06:48.720 I mean, I love a quote that you had for me once, which was, thank God, when I was going through

00:06:55.180 puberty, no marketing group or cult or however you want to frame it had figured out they could tell me

00:07:00.800 if you only join our ideology, then all of your, you'll feel comfortable in your body.

00:07:08.680 But that once you join this ideological group, it's a permanent subscription. You need to pay

00:07:15.500 constantly after you, you know, for the ongoing medical expenses. And if you ever deviate from

00:07:22.020 that ideology to even the slightest degree, you know, you look at someone like Buck Angel,

00:07:25.980 who really was the first major player in making the trans movement normal, normalized within today's

00:07:33.480 society. And who I see as being like a prime example of this category of transness, which isn't 0.98

00:07:40.400 this modern category, the level to which he has been denigrated by the modern trans community

00:07:46.920 because he came out and, and, and one is right-leaning and two is uncomfortable with child

00:07:53.900 transition. And those were the two things that made him basically a demon. So there it's an,

00:07:58.900 it's an ideological subscription in the way that the community has gone in a way that is very harmful

00:08:04.580 to trans people who would have fed this historic definition of trans. Another person who this

00:08:09.820 happened to, an early trans advocate who really paved the way for the modern trans movement and

00:08:15.100 then was completely stabbed in the back by that movement was Caitlyn Jenner. Because the modern

00:08:20.260 trans movement views being trans as more of a cultural or political affiliation than just a

00:08:26.240 gender identity that anyone can have regardless of their political affiliation. I can't imagine how hard

00:08:32.180 it must be for somebody who was actually trans and came out when it was still this extremely

00:08:38.200 discriminated against group that now it's become like a fad or like been taken over by this weird

00:08:45.100 cult, or at least a portion of the trans community has. To give you an idea of what I mean here,

00:08:50.800 imagine that somebody who represented your community was out saying things like,

00:08:56.200 these days the narrative is that transgender people will come into bathrooms and abuse little 0.99

00:09:01.260 girls. The supposed quote-unquote purity of the victim has remained stagnant. There are no princesses. 0.99

00:09:08.220 Little girls are also kinky. Your kids aren't as straight and narrow as you think. This was said by 0.89

00:09:13.880 Alec Vade Menon, and you can be like, oh well this must be some like obscure crazy person. No, this is

00:09:22.300 somebody who in 2019 was listed in out 100 list which is a compilation of the year's most impactful and

00:09:32.260 influential LGBT plus people. And if you find this accusation offensive when it is just very obviously true that 1.00

00:09:39.400 you know if I'm a young teen going through puberty and I feel like a social outcast and there's a group that's willing to

00:09:46.740 affirm me so long as I undergo specific changes for that group, of course a portion of people are going to

00:09:53.080 engage with that community. Of course. Like it's only rational. And if that fact is offensive to you

00:10:01.380 and you identify as trans, it's probably because you're not actually trans. It's probably because 0.94

00:10:07.060 you're part of this cult. Because that's the only reason I can imagine that you would find something that is

00:10:11.320 very obviously true that if you give a teenager during a stage when most people are very uncomfortable

00:10:17.740 with their bodies a pass to affirmation and comfort with their body, that that will convince some people

00:10:25.640 who are not actually trans to transition. So what frustrates me about parents, like conservative

00:10:33.000 parents' concerns about their children, which I think are very valid, but then the things that they

00:10:37.240 focus on is that what I'm seeing is strong evidence that most parents are not at all prepared to

00:10:45.400 actually protect their kids, especially if their kids are like me and not actually trans, but very 0.97

00:10:51.660 likely to fall into trans as a solution to just general body dysmorphia and being a teenager, which sucks. 0.80

00:10:59.040 They just, they're, they're looking at totally the wrong things, right? They're looking at bathrooms. 0.97

00:11:02.480 They're not looking at the cultural interventions they need to be considering to actually protect

00:11:08.620 their children from memes like this that can be quite harmful. And again, we're not shitting on

00:11:13.520 trans people here. We're just saying there are a lot of people who are transitioning now and 0.86

00:11:18.040 undergoing major, they're not actually trans. Yeah. They're not. 1.00

00:11:22.520 I think, so one thing that I've noticed, because I've been listening to a lot of stories of people who

00:11:27.040 seem to not have been trans who transitioned, one of the most common things where these conservative

00:11:31.340 parents are making a big mistake is they assume. So, so two things. One is, is because their child

00:11:36.760 fits gender norms as they understand them. Like, you know, these are people with a bunch of boys,

00:11:42.140 a bunch of girls, you know, they might be coming from largest families and they know like this 1.00

00:11:45.960 daughter is acting like every other daughter I've had quite gender differentiated from the males in my

00:11:51.240 family. And if anything, even classically quite feminine, they assume that they are not at risk

00:11:57.980 from this group. And that is actually almost inversely true from what I've seen. From what

00:12:03.400 I've seen, it's actually the people who fit the gender stereotype or appear to fit the gender

00:12:09.020 stereotype of their assigned gender who are most at risk from this sort of thing.

00:12:14.080 What is ironic here is that what puts these conservative families at risk of having their

00:12:18.480 kids transition when they're not actually trans is that they are taking the trans community 0.97

00:12:22.680 at their word, assuming that the only people who would transition or at risk of finding this

00:12:30.160 group and lifestyle appealing are those who act as if they are not their birth gender,

00:12:37.820 when that is just not true. The community almost doesn't care at all how much somebody acts like

00:12:45.440 their birth gender or thinks they are their birth gender. At the start, they care how vulnerable

00:12:51.180 that person is to influence. It's much better to think of this modern iteration of the trans 0.99

00:12:57.640 movement, the iteration that shits on all of their early past blazers, all of the early people

00:13:04.500 who sacrificed for what is now called the trans movement, like a cult which has taken over the 0.94

00:13:10.780 movement, than as actual trans people. They are just using the cover that this ideology gives them

00:13:18.160 to spread. But also, like, obviously this would happen. If you take anything and say,

00:13:24.760 okay, now this is the thing that people are no longer allowed to criticize in any way, shape, or form,

00:13:29.580 memetically speaking, that gives a lot of cover for psychologically toxic, memetic spreading

00:13:37.440 strategies to begin to randomly form and evolve out of that movement, which we would normally call cults

00:13:44.480 and would normally be shut down on school environments and stuff like that. But because

00:13:48.380 it covers itself in the same way, like, a cancer in a human body will say,

00:13:53.160 oh, I'm actually really important, you really need me, don't attack this thing, and that's how they

00:13:57.100 keep the other cells from getting rid of them. This cult says, oh, I'm actually part of the LGBT

00:14:02.880 movement, and if you call out what I'm doing, you are calling out the LGBT movement. And that's just not

00:14:09.320 functionally true at all. It is not a real or historic part of the LGBT movement.

00:14:14.220 Especially if they are in any way unpopular or othered by their group. Because you need to look

00:14:20.680 at this like a kid who's going into this. You are in a group where you are being teased for being

00:14:27.480 different from whatever, right? Like, everybody feels this way when they're going through puberty,

00:14:32.640 when they're in these teen years. And this is also the years when people are most likely to convert

00:14:37.580 to different religious frameworks, if you're talking about religion.

00:14:40.340 And again, I want to be clear, like, this isn't even about being teased. This is about

00:14:44.060 your body changing, your body getting gross, stinky, things happening that don't make you feel 0.93

00:14:48.500 good. Extreme mood fluctuations, which of course make you more volatile. Like, women get hit hard by, 1.00

00:14:55.600 you know, things that are moving them more towards feelings of depression,

00:14:58.800 and extreme social anxiety as well. Like, you feel like you stick out like a sore thumb,

00:15:03.020 you desperately want to belong, and yet nothing really seems to fit in terms of something you belong to.

00:15:07.760 Like, all these things, it's just the perfect storm for some form of, oh, this is a solution.

00:15:15.140 And you're desperate for affirmation. Then you hear the, this is the solution to all this.

00:15:20.400 Well, at the same time, when you go to these communities, and you say, you know what,

00:15:23.760 I think I might be this. Like, I might actually be trans. And keep in mind, by the definitions of

00:15:30.640 trans in today's society, Simone and I are actually trans. Because we are agender, which is genderqueer,

00:15:35.620 which is a form of trans, i.e. I really don't care what gender I present as. I'm just interested in,

00:15:40.800 like, efficaciously living my life. And I don't want to focus on that. And that makes me agender,

00:15:45.720 we would be a form of genderqueer, which is a form of trans within most definitions of trans.

00:15:49.840 Anyway, they really expanded the definition here. But, so you're a kid, you've gone through this.

00:15:54.880 And I'm just pointing that out to point out that I have no animosity towards this community,

00:15:58.200 exactly. But you, and I was in the GSA growing up, everything like that. Like, I really care about

00:16:04.300 protecting the LGBT community where I can, while also admitting that there is a group that is

00:16:12.080 socially converting right now. So I've grown up, I am unsure of myself, I have this thing that is an

00:16:18.520 existential issue for me, you know, comfort within my body, because my body is undergoing a lot of

00:16:22.460 changes. And now there's a group which says, we can make you comfortable with your body. And

00:16:26.900 whenever you go to them, and you say, I feel like I might be X, all of a sudden, you get love bond.

00:16:33.540 And within cults, this is the common tactic, people know, I really love cult psychology.

00:16:37.000 Basically, everyone in the community is all of a sudden telling you how great you are,

00:16:41.580 whenever you affirm a specific belief system, which is that you were born in the wrong body,

00:16:46.860 or that you know, you are genderqueer, or that you have any sort of non normative gender

00:16:53.600 representation, you get one, status within this community, and two, constant affirmation.

00:17:03.080 Now, if you are a teen, and anyone, you know, if you're a trans individual watching this,

00:17:08.540 you must see, even if somebody wasn't trans, if they were a teen, and there was a community that

00:17:12.860 would provide this for them, how appealing that community would be, and how that community

00:17:18.340 might lead them to making very serious, like, like cultural decisions, and decisions about

00:17:27.160 their, their medical engagement, that could have incredibly damaging long term consequences.

00:17:33.020 And then what I keep seeing is individuals then go to psychologists, like their parents

00:17:37.300 send them to psychologists, because they see the individual is depressed.

00:17:40.380 And most psychologists today have been taught only to affirm when an individual questions their gender.

00:17:45.880 And as such, you know, now they're in an isolated environment. Why are psychologists doing this?

00:17:51.480 It's not because they're evil. It's just because this is the course of action that isn't going to

00:17:54.580 get them fired. You know, it's like in tech, what they say, nobody ever got fired for choosing

00:17:58.540 Microsoft. Like, if you choose the default option, it is very safe for you. Well, this then creates a

00:18:06.040 problem if in any individual going through puberty, you can do this thing, which I believe is true.

00:18:12.040 I believe even me, if I had a group of individuals who are constantly pushing this,

00:18:18.540 we will affirm you if you say you feel uncomfortable with your gender and adopt this ideology,

00:18:24.700 even I might have been susceptible to this as like masculine presenting as I am.

00:18:30.400 And what's really scary to me when I read these stories is they have this common element,

00:18:36.040 where it is an individual that may have been a bit of a social outcast, but otherwise was a,

00:18:40.860 you know, totally average individual, you know, preteen. They encounter a group of friends

00:18:47.720 and then all of a sudden they become obsessed with this topic of transition.

00:18:53.520 They believe they had always been obsessed with this topic of transition, even though everyone

00:18:57.720 who knows them said, no, this is something that didn't matter to you before. And they believe that

00:19:02.520 they will kill themselves if they don't transition. Like suicide becomes a major part of their identity 0.69

00:19:08.440 during this pre-transition period. And when I hear about this as like a cultural package,

00:19:14.700 especially in the context of somebody who's really interested in cult psychology and studying cults,

00:19:18.940 this actually sounds very compelling. Like it's a compelling mechanism for delivering an ideological

00:19:25.820 package. And I, and I say this because if this is a memetic sense of spreading, this should be as

00:19:31.660 concerning to actual trans people, this should to everyone else, because it leads to these 1.00

00:19:37.500 individuals who are joining what is essentially an extremist cult beginning to represent the

00:19:42.740 mainstream trans movement. Because now these individuals who are going to be much more

00:19:46.340 ideological prime, like a normal trans person, when I say normal trans person, like an actually 0.99

00:19:50.800 trans person, just wants to live their life as the other gender. These individuals aren't like that. 1.00

00:19:55.660 They just want to preach the cult message. Like once they join, all they care about is all of the

00:20:01.420 things that differentiate the cult from the mainstream cultural group. How do you, like,

00:20:07.860 like if this does exist as a cultural subset, which I'm beginning to see evidence, especially when I look

00:20:12.720 at this extreme, like, oh my God, if I don't do this is all I can think about, I'm going to kill myself.

00:20:16.920 It's actually really common was in cults in terms of convincing someone about this existential issue

00:20:22.720 where they need to undergo something. Like within cults, classically, it was giving up all your

00:20:27.260 money. But basically it's a permanent change that you can't easily come back from and that

00:20:31.320 permanently indebts you to the cult. Well, and what scares me about it and from a cult standpoint and

00:20:36.600 from any, you know, standpoint is typically once the, the family and friends of a person hears about

00:20:43.640 this, it's too late. You know, when they come to you and they're like, I'm going to join this cult or I

00:20:47.820 have to like change my gender. That's what most cults do is, is the key to cult conversion

00:20:54.700 techniques. And I understand, I don't think this is like an intentionally created cult. It's like

00:20:58.120 an accidentally evolved cult. I think trans people were real. And then an iteration of the trans 1.00

00:21:03.900 movement that was very proselytized, like a little bit proselytized a lot, the iterations of it that

00:21:10.260 found out how to use these cult tactics accidentally ended up spreading faster than other iterations of it.

00:21:16.160 And so essentially you got this branch off of what was the real trans LGBT community,

00:21:20.900 which follows these cult patterns. And one cult pattern is to convince an individual

00:21:26.420 that anyone who doesn't affirm you joining the cult is abusive. And therefore you should cut ties

00:21:32.300 with those individuals, especially your core care network. So for many of these individuals,

00:21:37.800 this was their family. This was their, their friend group. It tells you, or your, your, your birth

00:21:43.360 culture, right? Like if you're trying to join a new cultural group, what they need to do,

00:21:46.340 they need to convince you that your birth cultural is antagonistic to you and that your family,

00:21:51.720 your parents, your closest support network is antagonistic to you. This is how you build

00:21:55.300 dependency on the cult. And so they, they push this ideology on individuals where if a parent in any

00:22:02.900 way says, I don't know, or I don't remember you always having this gender questioning, like maybe we

00:22:09.220 should think about this, maybe we should talk to third parties about this. Those individuals are

00:22:15.040 now the height of abuse. And they then begin to work in what a lot of people don't know is how easy

00:22:21.780 it is to form memories that aren't real memories. Like, like implanted memories are actually very easy

00:22:27.320 in psychology. It's like one of the easiest things to implant memories in someone. If you have a group

00:22:32.100 that's affirming a particular memory, they'll ask like, did your parents ever abuse you? And

00:22:36.140 first you say they abused you and not affirming you. But then if you remember vague ideas that

00:22:43.260 maybe there was like actual physical or textual abuse, then when you mentioned the textual abuse,

00:22:50.120 they begin to say, yes, that definitely happened to you. And because you get this affirmation for

00:22:56.840 talking about this, they begin to work its way into your consciousness and you believe it actually

00:23:01.200 happened. And then you push this on parents who might've otherwise been totally normal parents

00:23:05.500 who were just concerned about your well-being. No, this is actually a very common strategy in cults

00:23:11.460 these days. Implanted memories of textual abuse that didn't happen by your parents because it separates

00:23:16.600 you from your support network, which is obviously a thing of immense value to a cult because then you

00:23:22.060 see the cult as your core support network and you, it's much harder for the people who would otherwise

00:23:28.260 have the most interest in pulling you out of the cult to do so. As to why these sorts of behaviors

00:23:34.460 begin to evolve within the modern trans movement, it's simply because, not anything about trans

00:23:40.340 individuals specifically, it's simply because it was a part of society that you weren't allowed to

00:23:44.060 criticize. And whenever you have a part of society that you're not allowed to criticize, that's a perfect

00:23:48.560 area for cults to begin to arise because behavior that would otherwise get called out is not getting

00:23:53.740 called out. And now there's nothing the parent can do because anything the parent tries to do to separate

00:23:58.880 you from the cult drives you further to the cult and further away from them.

00:24:05.240 So, okay, what I really want to get to in this discussion, which I think is so important is,

00:24:10.120 you know, a lot of parents are just, like I'm saying, focused on the wrong thing, like bathrooms.

00:24:14.460 Oh my gosh, this is a big problem. What should parents actually be doing to prepare, annotate things

00:24:21.920 for their children, and essentially prevent their children from making an irreversible decision,

00:24:28.060 assuming that they're not actually really trans, which that's what our concern is. If you have a 0.99

00:24:32.480 kid who's like legit trans, they're legit trans. But I think a lot of people obviously are

00:24:37.580 transitioning for the wrong reasons. So what, what are we going to do? What would you encourage other 1.00

00:24:43.860 people to think about?

00:24:44.540 I think the biggest mistake that parents make is they don't understand that this is an alternate

00:24:48.460 cultural framework and alternate religion. This thing that is sort of splintered from the real

00:24:52.300 trans movement and has become a cult basically. And, and, and keep in mind, one of the groups that 0.95

00:24:57.360 suffers most from this cult is the real trans movement because they dissent from this. They're 0.99

00:25:01.680 like, what you're doing with kids is kind of problematic. And they're like, ban, you're off of

00:25:07.760 every network. How dare you question what we're doing with kids anyway? So, uh, they will be like,

00:25:14.020 when I was a kid, my culture, this Christian Jewish, whatever culture, right? Muslim,

00:25:18.440 culture, it worked for me. It seemed sane to me. Right. Um, but what they don't realize is they

00:25:24.960 were in an environment where the majority of people affirmed that culture or didn't question

00:25:29.000 that culture. Their kids who have their genetics are now in cultures where the majority of people

00:25:34.460 see that, for example, conservative Christian culture as strangely as they would see a trans 0.84

00:25:41.620 individual. Like they're like, Oh, you're of a weird cultural subset. Your kid has to go.

00:25:47.500 If you're like a conservative Christian kid and many are conservative Mormon kid in many environments

00:25:51.300 today, they are seen as a weirdly as a trans kid would have been seen as your dad. And if 0.91

00:25:58.040 what kept you was in your culture was a normalization was the fact that people didn't constantly question

00:26:03.540 it. When you just say, Oh, well, of course, Jesus fulfilled the messianic prophecies. So I believe

00:26:09.640 in Jesus. And that doesn't hold for this generation because they're going to actually be questioned on

00:26:15.440 that. Um, from an external perspective, he didn't really affirm them that well, um, to word this

00:26:22.820 another way. I love real crime and mysteries today. And I heard about, uh, uh, uh, uh, a group of

00:26:31.720 friends who were like, yeah, our friend died. And then after he died, I swear to God, he like came

00:26:37.040 and talked to me afterwards. And I have almost everyone in this extended group of friends. We feel

00:26:41.880 like we've engaged with him afterwards. And, and then you, and he disappeared from his grave when we

00:26:48.940 then went to check his grave. I'd be like, wow, cool. Like cryptid story, bro. Like it'd be interesting

00:26:55.180 to me, but I wouldn't immediately think, Oh, that's definitely God. That is God right there. That is, there

00:27:01.900 is no other explanation for that than the, that individual is the single most powerful entity in

00:27:07.360 all of existence. And so given that that's the case that you are relying on these defenses that

00:27:13.100 worked when everyone affirmed them, you don't realize how hostile our current environment is.

00:27:18.940 And so when you send kids into that, and there are alternate frameworks out there that are providing

00:27:25.040 solutions for their immediate problems, i.e. social validation and comfort with a change

00:27:31.860 body. The, the Christian framework, the Jewish framework, the Muslim framework does not do a 0.99

00:27:37.160 good job of dealing with this teenage change period, right? Which is when people most frequently

00:27:42.860 deconvert. Of course they are going to be susceptible. The urban monoculture is one thing, but these

00:27:48.920 extremist cults that evolved out of it. And the way that you fight against them is either by fortifying

00:27:55.760 your traditions, i.e. working to make them more resistant to modern science, everything like that.

00:28:01.320 And that is not through telling a kid, if you deviate from any of this, I'm going to like be like my kid

00:28:06.180 knows better than to deviate from my version of Christianity. Cause then what you're just saying

00:28:09.920 is if your kid didn't believe what you believed, he knew not to tell you. And so that makes them

00:28:15.060 even more vulnerable to external ideological frameworks. The same is also true for telling your

00:28:20.460 kids something like trans people are evil and malevolent. And some people will be saying that in the 0.99

00:28:24.980 comments, oh, how dare you humanize trans people in this. If you teach your kids that trans people 0.99

00:28:30.520 are evil, then when they meet a trans person who is not evil, or at least not obviously evil and seems 0.73

00:28:37.940 to care about them and seems to be a human being just like them, then all of the things you have

00:28:44.400 taught them about trans people become immediately invalidated in their eyes. And you have lost any

00:28:50.480 defense. When you treat a group that you are trying to warn your kids against as truly evil,

00:28:58.240 you have created an intense level of susceptibility in them to conversion by that group.

00:29:03.700 But this is also why us, like many people are like, why don't you just go to one of the

00:29:06.820 traditional cultures? It's because they are optimized for pre-industrial time periods, not just

00:29:13.220 pre-internet, pre-AI, pre-modern urban monocultural time periods. And they do not defend against it

00:29:19.700 well if I look at the data. And so, yes, it makes sense for me to try to create a system

00:29:26.060 that is very synthesized as whiz or works alongside modern science. So when these individuals

00:29:34.160 challenge my kids, they look like the anti-science cult because these kids are able to look at the

00:29:40.660 studies on puberty blockers and be like, this is what the actual data says on puberty blockers.

00:29:46.860 Do you know this? And then this community treats them like a heretic because that's the way all 1.00

00:29:51.500 extremist cults do. If there is information that damages the cult's ability to convert people,

00:29:58.000 they will treat anyone who talks about that information like they are an absolute heretic,

00:30:02.120 like they are a demon incarnate, right? And try to suppress that information.

00:30:06.260 When the individual is taking actual peer-reviewed studies and well-conducted studies and being like,

00:30:12.140 this is what they say, like rapid IQ decline, stuff like that from this sort of puberty blockers,

00:30:19.200 et cetera, never experiencing an orgasm. And they attack them for that. That will then

00:30:24.820 reaffirm their traditional beliefs. But you need to engage with these ideas before they reach these

00:30:30.080 communities. If you are not teaching your kids like real sex ed and sex ed includes about the trans

00:30:35.260 community, not just that they're like this evil other, that there is a real trans community. 0.95

00:30:39.500 And then there's like this weird cult that will immediately try to start preaching to them.

00:30:43.120 They need to be aware of that because this, this group controls our schools.

00:30:47.200 It controls the, if you send them, the worst thing you can do is if a kid does this,

00:30:51.600 is send them to a psychologist. Because what the cult has learned is that if they tell kids,

00:30:56.060 just say that you're going to commit suicide, if this doesn't happen,

00:30:58.700 then they can bin the psychologist industry around them because the psychologist industry suicide is

00:31:03.620 like a hot word. And it basically means you have to do whatever I'm saying. Like you have to

00:31:07.080 affirm whatever I'm saying. Like if I say I'm going to commit suicide. And it's the same with 0.98

00:31:11.280 the school system. You look at a state like New Jersey. If I send my kid to school in New Jersey

00:31:15.180 and they approach by these individuals and they begin on campus identifying as a different gender,

00:31:21.480 come up with a different name, you know, like that's the way cults don't really do. They create a

00:31:25.380 new name for you. So it really works. These cult ideologies have borrowed real trans identity 0.99

00:31:30.560 that, one, it has a legal duty to not tell me as a parent this has happened. If I, as a parent,

00:31:37.460 find out, they have to use the school's lawyer, right? Like if I say I'm actually not okay with the

00:31:45.660 kid going by a different name at school, they then have to use the school's lawyer to fight you.

00:31:51.060 Like it's a mandate. That's how extreme this is.

00:31:54.060 Um, and it makes sense that it is because it's the cultural default right now and people could

00:32:01.340 be fired for fighting it. So there's not really any reason to fight it. And they believe they're

00:32:04.940 doing good. I mean, they believe that everyone who thinks that they identify as this actually is

00:32:09.940 like a real trans person. And instead they don't see them as actually one of the most threatening

00:32:15.860 thing to real trans person people in society today, because these individuals, when you join the

00:32:22.920 cult, you now need to attack every real trans person who expresses any sort of ideological diversity,

00:32:28.440 which means that for real trans people, now they can only have one political opinion,

00:32:33.480 one cosmological view.

00:32:34.560 Yeah, which is really sad.

00:32:36.540 Yeah.

00:32:37.340 Because I mean, a lot of people legitimately and, and less optimally transition to have a sense of

00:32:44.280 belonging to, because they feel like, you know, this is what fixes the, the feeling that I had that

00:32:49.780 made me feel so out of place. And then to only be able to continue belonging, if you are only

00:32:55.920 following this very narrow line, just seems torturous. But one thing that I am thinking about a lot for

00:33:02.420 our kids is friend network. I mean, I think a lot of this blindsides parents because they don't realize

00:33:09.200 that online or at school or elsewhere, their kids are hanging out with, with other people who

00:33:15.880 are coming to this conclusion. And these are good faith people. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just

00:33:20.400 saying, like, I think this is a clear pathway. And parents do, I think it's critical, more carefully

00:33:27.980 curating your kids, friends groups, and making sure that they have a strong and very supportive

00:33:32.360 network of friends who will be there for them and help them navigate through just how awful

00:33:38.840 adolescence is, especially is really important. And a lot of the parents that we've known personally,

00:33:44.900 who've had kids transitioning in ways that seem really suboptimal, but also like through interviews

00:33:50.540 that we've seen, it seems like really common characteristics are more isolated kids. Often

00:33:55.660 there's a divorce at play. And that is even scary too, because in many cases I've heard just there's

00:34:01.340 one parent who's really supportive of a transition and another who is either unaware or not supportive.

00:34:06.920 And the parent who is supportive is using that as a means of like getting the kid on their side.

00:34:11.960 And, you know, I'm the cool one. I'm the supportive one. And then the other parent gets

00:34:16.140 alienated. So then they're used as political tools. But yeah, it does seem to me like parents

00:34:21.920 You talk about this happening to like a two-year-old?

00:34:24.800 Yeah. At one point. Yeah. No, a parent of a really, really a mother of a really, really young

00:34:29.020 child started addressing them like a girl. They were a natal male and, and saying that, you know,

00:34:34.660 like they're, they're trans. And I mean, like parents can be, of course, going through a divorce.

00:34:38.940 But they chose this to win a custody case.

00:34:40.840 Yeah. Yeah. So they affirmed their gender and the other parent didn't.

00:34:45.340 Yeah. I mean, I have, it's been a while since I saw this story. So

00:34:48.980 Well, I'll look it up in editing if it's real, but if it is real, that's horrifying.

00:34:54.080 So the story does appear to be real, or at least real as reported by the father, a man named Dennis

00:35:01.140 Hannon. In the story, his ex-wife began to transition their son at the age of three, beginning

00:35:08.200 to dress him in all women's clothes at the age of three. And the son was never diagnosed with

00:35:14.820 gender dysphoria. However, she did start him on puberty blockers at the age of nine. Now,

00:35:21.300 anyone who knows a three-year-old or nine-year-old kid knows they, they don't even have a concept.

00:35:26.780 My kid, I have a four-year-old right now. He does not understand gender at all. He cannot

00:35:31.580 get gendered pronouns right. He cannot consistently tell a girl from a boy. And we don't really

00:35:36.640 push him on it because I don't think it's that important. I think it's a weird thing

00:35:39.480 society over focuses on. But the point I'm making is a three-year-old definitely does not

00:35:44.680 have a sense of whether or not they are a boy or a girl yet. If the story as reported is

00:35:50.720 true, the son absolutely did not make these decisions for himself. And that's why I'm not,

00:35:57.300 I guess I'm misgendering him because this would be an instance where I'd say, yeah,

00:36:01.580 this individual is not actually a trans person. This is someone who was separated from all of their

00:36:07.020 other support networks, raised in a cult, and basically told by the only person they had left

00:36:12.880 that they will only receive love and affirmation if they transition. And it seems pretty obvious that

00:36:18.020 that's what's happened if the mom was already dressing them in all women's clothing at the 1.00

00:36:23.020 age of three and put them on puberty blockers by the age of nine. And as a trans person,

00:36:27.800 if you want your community to ever be accepted, if you want your community to be accepted by the

00:36:33.800 mainstream political body of this country, you need to be attacking these people before they enter

00:36:40.640 the right wing media. You need to be attacking them louder and more vociferously than anyone on

00:36:46.820 the right, because no sane thinking person is going to support a movement that is doing stuff like

00:36:52.860 this to children. And keep in mind, you know, if you divorce someone, this is why it's so critical

00:36:57.380 to not marry someone you might divorce, how vindictive they can be along these lines, because

00:37:01.140 it's like an instant win. If you side with this dominant cultural group, you win your kids and you

00:37:08.580 win the income, the additional income that that provides you. And another thing I noticed a lot

00:37:13.280 of people who are outsiders, they're like, why would a kid do this? Don't they understand how,

00:37:19.140 you know, ghoulish a lot of people look when they transition like this? And it's because that's not

00:37:25.380 the way they're contextualizing transition. They're contextualizing transition around two things. One is

00:37:31.760 online celebrities who have transitioned, but use a lot of editing to look very, very

00:37:38.440 passing, even when they do not actually look passing in real life. Dylan Mulvaney is a great

00:37:43.460 example of this. ContraPoint is also a great example of this. These individuals don't really

00:37:47.640 look passing. If you see them outside of the completely dolled up context of extra makeup,

00:37:53.960 extra lighting, any additional editing, because they're in this environment. And so this is a pretty

00:37:59.540 universal phenomenon. A lot of aspirational figures of any type. And this is like, whether you're a super

00:38:04.500 like masculine weightlifter guy online, or whether you're a super sexualized, like model, female model

00:38:12.340 online, like there's a lot of photoshopping that like makes everyone think that some unattainable

00:38:17.960 reality is actually attainable if they do the right thing. Nobody really passes except for East Asian, 1.00

00:38:25.400 well, Asian young men or young women after they transition. That's the one group where I really see

00:38:31.140 passing. But keep in mind that they don't pass forever. Like as they get older, this ability to

00:38:36.140 pass typically degrades after about 20 years. It's like a tattoo or something like that. You know,

00:38:40.360 it degrades pretty quickly. But the other thing here is that they are defining what they think they

00:38:46.280 will be like trans. And you see this within the trans community off of anime characters. What they are 1.00

00:38:52.580 attempting to transition into is an online avatar as represented by an anime girl, which is something

00:39:02.920 that they can never become. And this is actually, I find to be the core difference between the trans 1.00

00:39:10.200 cult and the real trans movement. Do they identify with anime avatars? Or do they identify with however 0.54

00:39:16.980 they actually look? This is so funny because one of the reasons why I became anorexic was like

00:39:22.960 primarily like the media I consumed was anime and manga. And I was constantly looking at these like

00:39:29.260 characters that were obviously skinny and who did not have Western bodies. And it made me hate my body

00:39:35.240 even more. So that is an interesting thing. You couldn't find any like bras that fit you in Japan,

00:39:39.200 for example. Yeah, well, nothing. I mean, nothing. Actually, a lot of clothes fit me in Japan. But yeah,

00:39:43.680 like, you know, I was I was aspiring to a morphology that couldn't I could not achieve period in my in

00:39:52.720 my body dysmorphia. And I it's interesting that you point that out that like, anime girls are common 1.00

00:39:58.880 denominator, a common villain behind. No, he's not a villain. And I think people overly may accuse

00:40:05.680 anime, you know, I'm not accusing anime girls. I'm sorry, Malcolm, excuse me. We love anime.

00:40:11.240 Transformation is a common theme with an anime. No, I'm not. Transformation has nothing to do with

00:40:16.320 this. It's just that they're pretty and they're cool. No, I think you're missing the point here. I

00:40:21.760 think that that they use completely fictionalized iterations of themselves within environments where

00:40:29.400 that is normal. And and in online environments today, and this is something that the previous

00:40:34.760 generation didn't have to deal with. They don't realize the threat of this, that they don't need to

00:40:41.100 actually pass in the same way that trans people in the past needed to pass. Their voice needs to

00:40:46.380 pass and their character needs to pass, you know, whether you're using AI filters or or anime filters

00:40:51.440 and stuff like that, because they are fighting for status hierarchy, they are fighting for approval,

00:40:55.520 as any human would, right? Like, that's what we all do. Yeah, the problem is, is this creates

00:41:00.580 unrealistic expectations around what happens after transition, and overly rosy expectations around

00:41:08.980 what happens after transition, so that individuals go into transition expecting things that just are

00:41:16.240 likely not going to happen. And it's a problem when this is oversold, because when you are a guy and

00:41:25.180 you are constantly denigrated by society. Oh, yeah. And when you're a guy and you hit puberty, I think,

00:41:30.660 hold on, I just want to emphasize that when you're a guy and you hit puberty, it's very different from

00:41:34.180 women. Like, I think women are more likely to feel a lot of body dysmorphia and a lot of, like, really,

00:41:38.200 like, big discomforts with what their body's doing. Whereas, like, men, I feel like one thing

00:41:42.780 that's under-discussed when a man hits puberty is that, oh, guess what? The world is going to screw

00:41:47.840 you over now. Everything's going to be harder. All the standards for you are harder. Everything's

00:41:52.380 more competitive. You're kind of treated by society as disposable. You do not get any special

00:41:57.420 treatment. Why would you not want to transition in the face of that? I mean, really?

00:42:01.900 Well, yeah. And I think that this is something that people don't talk about because they're

00:42:05.260 afraid of talking about it, right? Within conservative circles, this idea that as a

00:42:09.660 guy, you might have any sort of gender questions as you're going through puberty is like, you

00:42:14.820 don't talk about that because it lowers your status within conservative circles. But I'd say

00:42:20.360 gender dysmorphia is actually very normal for men as they go through puberty. The idea of wouldn't

00:42:25.880 it all be so much easier if I was just the other gender? And wouldn't it? I mean, honestly, 0.99

00:42:30.700 though, women have it easier. 1.00

00:42:33.300 And men have the ability to emulate a female mindset. You're like, oh, wouldn't it be easier 0.99

00:42:39.080 if I was taking on this other role within sexual interactions? And then can I use that?

00:42:46.220 What people don't realize is that while there are real trans people who have these parts of

00:42:52.900 themselves, okay, that are just loud and screaming at them constantly without interacting, without being

00:42:58.820 elevated by an outside group, right? These parts of you can be elevated in almost any individual,

00:43:06.940 male or female, if your social group is affirming them. But the problem is, is that they can then come 0.98

00:43:13.060 to dominate you. And they can come to dominate you in a way that hurts you that wouldn't have hurt you

00:43:19.100 had you not engaged with it. In the same way that something like cocaine or heroin, like, yeah, okay,

00:43:24.600 once you do that for the first few times, then yes, it does really make you feel better. And yes,

00:43:28.800 it does become a part of your life. But if you had just known the first time somebody dropped this

00:43:33.360 on you to say, no, thank you. I'm not engaging with this peer group anymore. I see that if I do

00:43:39.360 continue to engage with this peer group, it will cause long-term damage. Kids need to learn that.

00:43:45.180 But the only way to convince them of that, right, is to have an alternate ideology or an alternate

00:43:53.360 world framework that contrasts with the urban monoculture, because this is like the priest

00:43:58.780 class, the highest caste of the urban monoculture. So if you don't have an alternate framework that is

00:44:04.800 actually compelling against that, and people are like, why do you work so hard to create like your

00:44:08.660 own religion for your family? That seems insane. And it's like, because I have seen what happens

00:44:13.380 to the little Protestants and the little Catholics who go to school without any alteration.

00:44:17.860 Well, but hold on. So yeah, like I was going to say, a lot of parents who might hear this would

00:44:23.820 just think, well, okay, great. Like I am, you know, our family were devout Catholics, were devout

00:44:31.600 Protestants, were devout Baptists, were devout Muslims. Like, well, are Muslims people who practice 0.98

00:44:38.200 Islam or is that like an ethnicity shit? 1.00

00:44:40.300 They need to take the criticisms and the apologetics against their religion seriously 1.00

00:44:46.760 and not be like, well, I never questioned it for X reason. The things that cause you to question a

00:44:53.180 cultural system when you are in your teens, if you're presented with it regularly and competently

00:44:58.820 by a majority cultural group that is opposed to you are going to be very different from the things

00:45:04.040 that cause you to question as an adult. And a lot of them default to the answers that earn them

00:45:10.860 credit within their social hierarchies as adults that are majority that religion or majority that

00:45:17.760 cultural system.

00:45:18.620 Hold on. I don't know if you answered my question. Like a lot of people think that their religious

00:45:22.680 culture is strong and therefore their kids won't be vulnerable.

00:45:26.500 Okay. Yeah. And what I'm saying is how do I know your religious culture isn't strong?

00:45:31.580 Is it traditional evangelical Protestantism? Is it traditional Catholicism? Is it traditional

00:45:36.960 Islam? If it's traditional, then it is not strong. 1.00

00:45:40.520 Okay.

00:45:40.800 Those are the cultures being molested. 0.99

00:45:42.240 I would note here that I have seen traditional cultures work when the only people your kids

00:45:47.820 interact with up until they're around the age of 21 are other people from your cultural group.

00:45:55.160 But even then, you know, I've seen people go wildly off the rails when they come from 1.00

00:45:59.880 traditional cultures because they just don't have good defenses to these more modern antagonistic

00:46:06.160 memetic sets. And this actually is something we might do a full episode on in the future,

00:46:10.980 but it's very interesting. When I look at the religions that are hit by declining fertility

00:46:15.380 rates, typically the age of the religious tradition correlates to how severely it's going to be hit

00:46:22.500 by declining fertility rates with, you know, very old religious systems like Hinduism and Buddhism

00:46:27.980 having very, very low fertility rates or within the Christian traditions, you know, Catholicism and

00:46:35.260 Orthodox having fairly low fertility rates while Protestants have middling fertility rates and

00:46:42.460 Mormons while they're still falling have higher fertility rates and Amish have higher fertility 1.00

00:46:46.600 rates with Amish actually being a very young tradition for people who don't know that they're,

00:46:52.000 you know, only like 200 years old, 300 years old.

00:46:54.120 Okay. So basically the, the only way that you know that you've built a strong culture that will

00:46:58.800 actually prevent your kid from succumbing to essentially like in incorrect transitioning as

00:47:07.860 a result of just, you know, body dysmorphia, general body dysmorphia. That's not actually very normal during

00:47:13.520 puberty. Everyone feels uncomfortable with their body. Yeah. So like if, if you don't have, if you have a

00:47:19.560 traditional culture, you are not protected. And what you need to do to protect yourself is in some

00:47:25.760 very carefully curate your kids' friends groups and make sure they have a very good emotional support

00:47:31.240 network to broker them through puberty in a way that won't lead them in directions that you think

00:47:36.620 will be very damaging to make sure that they understand from the get-go that when people say

00:47:44.000 that this is the easy answer, it's not. And here are the reasons why. Right. And what, what else would

00:47:51.080 you advise? Well, no, I think engaging with, so historically you didn't need to understand the

00:47:58.780 arguments against Christianity when you're in majority Christian communities. You didn't need 1.00

00:48:03.060 to understand if you engage with these attacks against your cultural system, as if you are just

00:48:10.820 engaging them to argue against them, you won't fully appreciate them. You need to engage with

00:48:15.900 them as if you believe them, as if you were persuaded by them. Attempt to steel man them, not straw man them.

00:48:23.000 Because if you don't, then you will not understand the impact they have on your children.

00:48:29.080 Cultural systems that survive by simply isolating themselves will not survive. The, the, the stressors

00:48:37.480 that you are undergoing in modern civilization are very different than they are historically.

00:48:41.900 And then in addition, I say there's another, there's a group of people who listen to this and say,

00:48:45.720 but I'm just purely secular. Well, you have to understand being secular may as well be in a cult

00:48:51.680 today. If what you're listening to is the research, because the psychologists, the people who run your,

00:48:57.060 your schools, they don't listen to the research anymore. They don't listen to data anymore.

00:49:01.940 They listen to cultural extremist viewpoints and they're increasingly taken over the institutions

00:49:07.280 that output the research. So secularity is no longer an option. Secularity is an extremist cult

00:49:14.300 and being an extremist cult, you need to find out how to defend your kids around that, but also how to

00:49:20.800 teach your kids to hide it. You know, many religious systems, and this is something I often see when

00:49:25.580 people teach their kids, just secularity, secularity, the kids go out and they just repeat the studies to

00:49:30.620 these groups. And they don't realize that that's what gets them crucified. You need to teach your

00:49:34.780 kids to not engage with the groups, but also hide from them their real perspectives. Because if they

00:49:40.500 don't, they will get crucified. They won't get into college. They can even get arrested.

00:49:45.060 Right. So if it has conservative views, teach them how to code switch at school to appear

00:49:51.440 progressive so that they don't become ostracized and hated and therefore find themselves deeply unhappy in

00:49:57.020 school. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You, they need to learn to code switch just appearing conservative all the

00:50:03.460 time. Doesn't work anymore. It needs to be like our society is controlled by a cult. How do I interact

00:50:10.060 with that cult in a way that doesn't end up with me getting crucified? Because that's the basic reality

00:50:17.040 of kids growing up today. They are in a society that's controlled by an aggressive cult that wants

00:50:21.900 to stamp out anyone who shows immunity to its mimetic subset. I love that. So the, the gist

00:50:29.660 to, or the, the answer to parents who are like really deeply concerned about bathrooms in their

00:50:35.080 schools is don't worry about the bathrooms. Make sure your kid has great friends that you trust and

00:50:41.080 respect. Talk with them in a sober minded and respectful fashion about what actually is happening

00:50:47.560 culturally and what may tempt them to do things that could be really damaging to them over the long

00:50:52.380 term. And don't straw man it, steel man it. And then third, teach your child how to act progressive

00:50:59.020 in school environments so that they can thrive and be socially accepted and probably also thrive in the

00:51:05.360 modern professional world if that's where they want to go. Interesting. You'll man the science here.

00:51:10.000 These individuals who do not teach their kids about, like if you teach your kids about LGBT culture and

00:51:16.800 you are doing that in a way that demonizes that culture, you are dooming your children. You need

00:51:23.680 to treat it with respect as other humans as if it was just another religious subsect in the same way

00:51:30.580 that, you know, Jews and, and, and that affirms that they may have attraction models or stuff like that

00:51:39.360 that are different from those that are approved was in your culture because people are changing.

00:51:43.780 We know this from the tide studies. These, these arousal patterns are much more common in the

00:51:48.740 younger generation. So you need to not be overly antagonistic towards them, but find out how to

00:51:55.500 make them work within your cultural system. Right. A kid coming to you and saying, I think I'm

00:52:00.600 attracted like a male child and they're like, I think I'm attracted to men. You, if, if your default

00:52:07.320 response to that is, then I reject you, you've lost, you've lost, you've just lost. If you say,

00:52:14.380 well, love the center, but hate the center. No, that doesn't work anymore. You need to find

00:52:18.740 realistic ways of engaging with this. And you need to educate them before they hear about all of this

00:52:25.980 from individuals who want to use it to drive a wedge between them and their birth culture to create

00:52:31.340 a cult. And in terms of what not to do, don't shelter your child. Do not denigrate this, this

00:52:39.740 other culture or the concept of becoming trans or anything else. Like, and honestly, like another big 1.00

00:52:46.880 instinct that teenagers feel is rebellion. If you basically say, here's what you can do to make me

00:52:54.240 absolutely furious, guess what you're setting yourself up for some trouble. Right. So we're

00:53:01.140 going to have to be careful about that. Yeah. And understand that this isn't like things in the past,

00:53:06.880 you know, like I was a hardcore, like goth punk scene kid, you know, Simone underwent her own

00:53:14.780 cultural rebellion. This is as if there was a, a cultural subset for teens that once you joined,

00:53:21.240 you couldn't leave. Yeah. So make sure, you know, any rebellion that you do drive your kids to is

00:53:27.180 one that does not lead to permanent life changes that they cannot reverse. But yeah, we'll see how

00:53:33.920 things evolve as our kids reach that scary adolescent phase. And I'm excited to see how it plays out.

00:53:40.580 And the final thing I suggest is when people are like, why do you do these track videos? Why do you

00:53:45.020 do this weird religious stuff? We are trying to create a cultural subset that's resistant to,

00:53:49.700 to these sorts of memetic self-replicants and or memetic prions, whatever you want to call it.

00:53:55.200 And we want to create one that can be used by people within the Abrahamic faith traditions

00:54:00.560 as sort of a backup religion for their kids. And the same way that we're like Judaism,

00:54:03.960 the backup religion for our kids as the approved alternative to the urban monoculture,

00:54:09.700 because if you are only selling them your own culture, you, you, you, you've created an incredibly

00:54:15.880 weak circumstance. Well, the alternative to your culture is the urban monoculture.

00:54:22.100 I like it. And I like you.

00:54:24.600 I love you.

00:54:28.720 Oh, I'm so excited. I just spoke with a journalist as a politician running for office or whatever,

00:54:37.420 the attempted politician. And at the end of the call, he said, wow, you know, I've had a lot of

00:54:44.060 these interviews because his whole thing is covering state policy in Pennsylvania.

00:54:48.240 And this felt like a real conversation. This was really unique. And I'm like thinking,

00:54:53.120 what are your calls like with the other people running for office? Is it like, are they,

00:55:00.660 are they talking to you in binary code? Is it just like,

00:55:03.700 No, I think they're talking like bureaucrats. I mean, you've seen these people, right? They're just

00:55:07.740 like, these are my points. And they're afraid of negative stuff coming back to hit them.

00:55:11.640 Oh, yeah, I did. He did say that right after I was like, by the way, if you want to just

00:55:17.280 eviscerate me, go for it. Like negative coverage is welcome. Do not feel guilty.

00:55:26.520 But yeah, wow, that's interesting. Maybe or maybe they are actually robots. He's a robot. He has no

00:55:33.700 feeling. He can't feel anything. They're just robots, Morty. It's okay to shoot them. They're

00:55:39.060 robots.

00:55:43.340 Glenn's bleeding to death. Someone call his wife and children. They're not robots, Rick.

00:55:48.380 It's a figure of speech, Morty. They're bureaucrats. I don't respect them.

00:55:51.600 But it's true. I mean, you know, who minds? You have to shoot a few bureaucrats to get out of a

00:55:56.220 building. Well, I'm actually going to use this at the end of a different video because it doesn't

00:56:00.080 actually go with this topic. I'm talking to you, Malcolm. We haven't started recording. Well,

00:56:04.760 no, we have started recording it because I don't want to forget.

00:56:07.940 Well, I love that. What local journal was it for?

00:56:13.200 God, I don't remember.

00:56:15.360 Well, one day the age of Trump will be over and then there will be who knows what happens next

00:56:24.100 with the conservative party and maybe you can become a leading.

00:56:27.020 And then we will broker in the age of Kanye. Although what we really need, we don't need

00:56:32.500 the age of Kanye. We need the age of Dwayne the Rock Johnson. But I just don't know if

00:56:40.300 that's going to happen.

00:56:40.680 You know, like in some like progressive-y documents from like, they actually talk about like the

00:56:44.940 age of Aquarius?

00:56:46.840 Are you? No.

00:56:48.660 No.

00:56:48.920 Yeah.

00:56:49.060 Yeah. Yeah. I think it was important to like the Theosophical Society, which has like

00:56:53.680 an outsized impact and a lot of progressive policy that people...

00:56:56.840 I would love if like conservatives made conspiracy theories around that instead of the Great

00:57:03.400 Reset where they were like, you got to watch out. The age of Aquarius is what they're trying

00:57:09.080 to broker in now.

00:57:12.040 You're not listening to the right conspiracy theorists. That's your problem, Simone.

00:57:15.380 It is. Yeah, I guess it is.

00:57:18.540 This in-bit was actually recorded before one of our tracked videos. And in that very video,

00:57:23.120 somebody posted something about the age of Aquarius. And Simone was so excited to show

00:57:28.300 me afterwards. And she's like, oh, we should have left it in. We should have left it in.

00:57:31.880 And then I was like, yeah, but then you wouldn't know that it was a coincidence that people

00:57:35.540 are still on about that conspiracy theory. Or I don't know, hippie theory.

00:57:40.580 Sorry, I was playing into the hard connection. Also, John's replacing the thing downstairs right

00:57:44.680 now.

00:57:44.900 Oh, my God. Yay. Amazing.

00:57:48.840 So, yay. All right. I'm about to get started, Simone. So, I hope you are ready.

Based Camp - March 20, 2024

Is A Cult Using the Trans Movement for Cover？

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