In this episode, we talk about the growing number of far-right figures like Charlie Kirk and Chaya Raichy saying they plan to have more children than the left, and raise them to have conservative values. We also talk about whether or not it's a good idea to outbreed the left.
00:00:04.480Because liberals have always been doing this.
00:00:06.840If liberals would cease existing if they stopped having kids, then why are there any liberals at all?
00:00:12.880And then you point out, this trend only started in the 90s.
00:00:17.680Before the 90s, you didn't have a big difference in fertility rates within these two genetic clusters that led to different voting behavior.
00:00:23.940And now one cluster was in a period of two generations is just going to be hard deleted from the gene pool.
00:01:35.280Far-right figures, Chaya Raichy and Charlie Kirk, both said they plan to, quote-unquote, outbreed the left this week by having more children than liberals and raising them to have right-wing values.
00:01:47.160Both of their statements are being memed online.
00:01:50.440Raichy runs the anti-LGBTQX account, Libs of TikTok.
00:03:02.980Then we're going to homeschool or send our kids to private schools so they can't be groomed and become any activists for leftist causes.
00:03:09.260Unless that's a radical, but it's not a radical thing to say.
00:03:12.040No, that's more what every slightly conservative parent is saying now.
00:03:16.880And this is what I'm seeing on the ground in Pennsylvania running for office is very reasonable, normal, not even really religiously affiliated, just not actively progressive parents are saying, I'm concerned about what my kid's learning.
00:03:29.640I don't want my kid to have mental health problems as a teen and adult.
00:03:34.900Yeah, and I think a lot of people, when I'm like, I am like bothered by wokeism and stuff like that.
00:03:41.060They're like, oh, are you really scared of the wokeism that's going on in schools now and stuff like that?
00:03:46.180It's I do not think because certain like leftists seem to have a problem with breaking out of the current social mores and looking at this from the perspective of you're not at a moral nexus of history.
00:04:35.680Two is, can that work intergenerationally?
00:04:39.200Or will these kids just leave their parents' religious or structural, like cultural, structural, or voting frameworks, right?
00:04:47.000So first, I'm going to go from a quote here.
00:04:50.080Liberals are not having enough babies to keep up with conservatives.
00:04:52.360Arthur Brooks, a social scientist at Syracuse University, was the first to point out all the way back in 2006 when he went on ABC News and Blue State Mines.
00:05:01.940Quote, the political right is having a lot more kids than the political left, end quote.
00:05:05.580He explained, quote, the gap is actually 41%, end quote.
00:05:11.340Data on U.S. birth rates from the General Social Survey confirmed this trend.
00:05:15.140A random sample of 100 conservative adults will raise 208 children, whereas 100 liberal adults will raise only 147 kids.
00:05:26.680And so you need to divide these numbers in half, given the way that this is, it's a very confusing way to word it.
00:05:32.440But the point being is that, and this was done a while ago, and this gap has widened.
00:05:37.680Before the 1990s, fertility differences by ideology were small.
00:05:42.160And I'm quoting here, by the way, this is from the Family Studies Institute in Lyman's Stone.
00:05:45.620Women over the age of 45 had no difference in completed fertility, and women of all ages, but with controls for years of age, had only a small difference.
00:05:56.520There was, however, already a difference in ideology.
00:05:59.440Conservative women reported a child-bearing ideal of about 0.12.
00:06:03.740So even the difference back then in the ideal was fairly small.
00:06:07.320Only a difference of 0.12 kids higher than liberal women, which is small but significant difference, he goes on to say.
00:06:13.000I'm going to put the graph on the screen here.
00:06:14.360Basically put, when people are like, you can obviously just convert your opponent's kids, right?
00:07:06.120Yeah, I'd never thought about that point before.
00:07:07.740And I think it's worth hammering home that birth rates were not that different between progressive and conservative groups until quite recently.
00:07:15.880So this whole parasitizing slash raiding conservative groups to get progressive populations thing is not sustainable.
00:07:40.440That's not like statistics and conservative households all the time, but also those people didn't become sterilized.
00:07:50.720Yeah, there are going to be fewer people like that over time.
00:07:53.760If they are the 60% of the way you vote, if you didn't have the genetic component that led your parents to be conservative, it turns out that genetic component was also correlated with you staying high fertility.
00:08:06.000So if you're one of those people who's bragging about leaving your parents' religion, but are you having kids?
00:08:10.440Because if you were the mutant and that mutation is correlated with not having kids, then you're just furthering our argument.
00:08:25.000So if you're not doing that, then no, you've just proven our point further.
00:08:29.320But to their side, it is shown that people are more likely to be in this small fraction of people that leaves their parents' political beliefs if the parents try to force them to have those beliefs while they live with their parents.
00:08:41.320So parents who are loose in terms of their children's political beliefs are much more likely to have children of their beliefs than the parents who are not.
00:08:48.080For example, my parents were always fairly conservative.
00:08:51.500Like my dad, my granddad was a conservative congressman.
00:08:53.880And when I grew up, I was considered myself quite progressive.
00:09:34.320Once we found sociopolitical conservatism was 74% heritable among the most politically informed.
00:09:40.180But only 29% heritable for the least informed.
00:09:43.800This reminds me of other research that found that when you give more information to people with very opposing views on subjects, they just become more entrenched in their views.
00:09:55.740So imagine it's true that you are pre-coded to have a specific political perspective, like sociologically.
00:10:02.820How could you convince somebody to go against their pre-coding?
00:10:06.320You give them information that isn't real about the world, right?
00:10:09.760If you want to convince somebody who is genetically conservative to not be conservative in their actions and voting, what you need to do is hide information from them or tell them information in a twisted way, which causes their conservative mindset to be overridden.
00:11:00.940When we see this a lot, for example, with people in California who are not at all politically involved, but of course will only ever vote for progressive politicians because that's what one does.
00:11:11.460And it is one's understanding that the correct view is the progressive view, because you didn't even allude to this a little earlier, that the assumption is that to convert someone to progressive views, you simply must educate them.
00:11:22.800And there is this pervasive view that the party of science in the United States is Democrats, the people of science and of reason and correctness are progressives.
00:11:33.920And the people of backwards religious tradition are conservatives, which is also just interesting because now I think it's starting to shift in the other direction.
00:11:42.740And when you find hyper evidence-based people, they're now conservative.
00:11:49.380But only hyper like we're willing to believe in the truth, even when it is.
00:11:54.060But I think that was true historically.
00:11:55.600What is the fight, and this is actually interesting, between capitalism and communism or libertarianism and socialism, but a fight over how educated you are about economics and your willingness to believe the truth about how economic systems work.
00:12:17.220There's like halfwit, there's midwit, and then there's...
00:12:20.100And this is actually the core problem, right?
00:12:22.120Because two groups are drawn to conservatism, right?
00:12:24.580Like, the reason why I am a capitalist and not a socialist, and this is a capitalist whiz, modifications and stuff like that, like I'm not a pure libertarian, is because it's the system that leads to the most prosperity and ability for individual freedom.
00:12:39.520And I do understand how being economically constrained constrains an individual's freedom.
00:12:44.560And therefore, if socialism worked, I would support it.
00:12:48.820I don't support it because it doesn't work.
00:12:51.500It makes everyone poorer on average, even the people who are getting the social handouts.
00:12:57.460Just so people understand, like, how bad socialism is, here's a great example, okay?
00:13:02.960You can look in America right now and be like, oh, certain groups are poorer than other groups.
00:13:09.860Like, people will say, like, black Americans are poorer than the average American.
00:13:13.500But did you know that the average black American is wealthier than the average British person in terms of your early income?
00:14:09.620And it's that there are two genetic propensities that can drive somebody to conservatism.
00:14:14.340And there are two broad conservative frameworks.
00:14:17.100I'd call this the fascist framework and the individualist framework.
00:14:20.600So one framework is like me, where I am driven largely by the belief that everyone should be free to do things their own way and to live the life they want to live.
00:14:33.860And that's what's guiding a lot of my decisions.
00:15:01.260But if you take this like pure individualist instead of an individualist cultural frame threat, then you end up making really stupid decisions.
00:15:08.000So I take the individualist cultural perspective.
00:15:11.940But then there's the second, instead of saying, okay, if all human groups are allowed to act the way that they want to act, that righteousness will be served.
00:15:20.000Then there's the other drive to conservatism, which is they want capitalism because they want the strong to rule over the weak.
00:15:29.620They want libertarianism because they see it as like an aesthetic ideal.
00:15:33.760They want a system where they are the strong and they force the weak to live like them, where everybody has to live the way that their culture lives.
00:15:45.460And for us, these are really just progressives, but by a different color, because this is what the progressive movement is doing right now.
00:15:52.620It's trying to enforce its beliefs on other people in regards to child rearing structures or in regards to the way you should live or in regards to education.
00:16:01.900And we try to take our kids out of these systems.
00:16:04.960So he was like, why are you ragging on Germany for what they're doing with schools?
00:16:56.640Yeah, they're incapable of being coercive in the short term.
00:16:58.800That's the only reason you're willing to ally with them.
00:16:59.900And there's groups within us winning because our faction, ideologically winning, gives them the cover to grow and recover and try to gain power again.
00:17:08.300But to us, while we may ally with them in the short term, they are just as evil as the fascist progressives.
00:17:17.700And anyone who decides that their imperative is to impose their standards and values and cultures and lifestyles on you is going to be a threat ultimately.
00:17:27.760I think it explains a very odd thing about us where people are like, why are you guys so phileo-semitic, so nice to Jewish populations and the Jewish culture?
00:17:36.320And we're like, this is the core reason.
00:17:39.200It's one of the few really successful, very high fertility, very culturally successful and technologically successful cultural groups that is not interested at forcing my family to live a different way than we live.
00:17:52.080Like, they are just like, yeah, we're okay with groups different from us existing.
00:17:55.200So, of course, we're going to uplift that example for other cultures to learn from.
00:18:00.640And our culture historically did that.
00:18:02.120The Calvinist cultural group was generally that way in a historic context because we believe in the elect and the fallen, right?
00:18:07.700And the fallen are going to hell anyway.
00:18:12.540The elect will be called by God themselves.
00:18:15.500And if they're not, then I don't need to go...
00:18:18.220I can broadly be part of the intellectual conversation and put my stuff out there and my ideas out there without an attempt to convert somebody because I genuinely do not think that is how God works, is through proselytization.
00:18:29.380He works through calling people to the truth if they are meant to be among the elect or if they were, you know, pre-assigned among the elect.
00:18:37.920But anyway, so that's one answer there.
00:18:39.840But then you have the question of, what was I going to say here?
00:18:44.460There's another, there's a confounding factor here, Simone, that we haven't considered.
00:18:48.080Which is to say that, and I'm quoting here from the Family Studies article on this, however, having children probably also makes people more conservative.
00:18:56.960Prior academic research has found that after women have children, they tend to subsequently adopt more conservative social attitudes about gender roles as a result in both British and American data sets.
00:19:05.840Now, you certainly have, after you had kids, I think it's because once you have kids, you realize that the traditional gender roles just work and why the hell were you fighting this to begin with?
00:19:17.180Our stance on this is it doesn't matter who does what, people should just lean into what they're good at.
00:19:24.300And I think that's the thing is if it turned out that we were flipped and somehow you did more traditionally woman-y things and I did more traditionally man-things, it wouldn't be a problem for us.
00:19:37.600And then there's this other point here, which is going to make things harder.
00:19:40.760And when people are like, why do I care?
00:19:43.140Like, why am I so worried about the economic effects of all of this?
00:19:45.500Not just from a population fertility falling perspective, that it is disproportionately falling within the economically productive regions.
00:19:52.780This also comes into this conversation, which is, and did you know this, that Democratic counties make up 70% of the United States economic output.
00:20:26.140And I think that's something that's also not discussed enough when people are talking about cronatalist policy is so looking about how to create more people in general and not how to create more high taxpayers in general, which is going to be the really big question.
00:20:43.160Because if we're going to maintain any kind of semblance of the format of social services and infrastructure funding and pensions that we have now, we're going to lean more than ever on a very increasingly small group of productive taxpayers to pay for everything.
00:20:59.120And those people are disappearing the fastest, which is really scary when I think about this, though, from the perspective of that original statement of we're going to outcompete them.
00:21:12.940It's not a battle that any conservative is really fighting anyway, because any conservative actually really just knows that we are outbreeding them.
00:21:21.800But if this were a battle where you had conservatives pledging this and you had progressives pledging this, the progressive rallying cry is, what are children for?
00:21:32.940A new book that came out, which was supposed to be the progressive answer.
00:21:37.100Oh, we've got to do a whole other episode.
00:21:47.580And I'm reading it from the perspective of my teen, young 20 self, which was still very progressive and still quite against having kids, if we're being honest.
00:21:57.780It does not make a compelling argument.
00:22:27.800Progressives have been hoisted by their own retard.
00:22:29.880But there's a few other points I wanted to go here.
00:22:33.800One that I really wanted to elevate is that this is going to lead to a genuine genetic change in the population that humanity has never experienced.
00:22:41.620The fact that before the 90s, okay, and we actually did a study where we were looking at progressive fertility rates, and we found the rate to be 100% difference, or I think it was more than 100% difference, like 120% difference.
00:22:53.540So this other study, I think they're underselling it, or it was done a while ago.
00:22:56.840But anyway, before the 90s, you didn't have a big difference in fertility rates within these two genetic clusters that led to different voting behavior.
00:23:04.640And now one cluster was in a period of two generations.
00:23:08.800It's just going to be hard deleted from the gene pool.
00:23:45.200We can predict some of what it looks like.
00:23:47.160The ideas that progressives are pushing are not going to win in politics in the future.
00:23:50.940They will win more in the short run because people become more progressive when you break up a family structure and they go unmarried.
00:23:57.720But in the long run, they are just deleting themselves from the gene pool.
00:24:01.240And anyone who is ideologically citing what's the progressives right now, you in history, even if you are not morally wrong, like in an absolute term, you will not be on the side of the victors.
00:24:13.140And therefore, you will be treated in the same way today we talk about the people who supported slavery, or we talk about the people who supported the Nazis, or we talk about maybe in a more modern context, if you're talking about things that's what's going on with the extremists was in parts of the trans movement, the way who supported lobotomies.
00:24:31.040Which actually were disproportionately done by progressives on their kids, because the scientific community said lobotomies are good.
00:24:39.240And so they used it, like the Kennedy family, for example, famously.
00:24:42.840We have progressives then and now, or we're in favor of medical interventions.
00:24:46.280And they don't know how monstrous they're going to look in the eyes of history, but it's going to be bad.
00:24:52.900It's going to be a historic bloodbath.
00:24:55.160And there is, I would not attach any idea I have to this stuff.
00:24:58.660Now, the second thing I need to talk about is the silver lining on all of this.
00:25:10.640It is the fascist conservatives who are the real intergenerational threat, right?
00:25:14.580Those conservatives who have this sort of ethnic hierarchy and think that everything can be solved by control and domination and my group of rule, is that the leaders of this movement often have no kids.
00:25:29.700You know, recently we did an episode basically trashing Nick Fuentes for not having kids, but like he doesn't have a wife even.
00:25:36.060But like you can look at older iterations of this movement.
00:25:38.340So I was on a talk show recently, Zero Hour with John Papalopoulos or something, I don't know.
00:25:51.020Anyway, so before me, they had on Ann Coulter.
00:25:54.980And I actually trashed her in my talk, obviously.
00:25:57.880Because she sent the entire talk complaining about Hispanics in our country and low quality people in our country that we were letting in from other countries.
00:26:05.080And she said, oh, and we used to have high quality immigrants and people are thinking like pre-1930s immigrants, not the immigrants we have today when they say, oh, I only want legal immigrants.
00:26:13.940Oh, because we loved Italians and Irish people back then.
00:26:17.020I'm like, bro, yeah, this is, first of all, she's just living in fucking delusion.
00:26:21.920To explain what I mean by this, she's, look at all these freaking immigrants coming with their crime and all of their organized crime.
00:26:30.420These are exactly the same accusations made against your pancreas.
00:26:40.300This is just a Catholic immigrant thing.
00:26:43.400And then they integrate and they're not like that anymore.
00:26:45.520Or, and then we call them white, even though we thought of them as different ethnicities to begin with, I guarantee you Hispanics will be thought of as white by the time you and I die.
00:26:55.580In fact, I imagine that the ultra lefties will start thinking it's offensive for Hispanics to pretend they're not white.
00:27:01.360In the same way that they might talk about an Italian pretending they're not white or Irish pretending they're not white, even though these were historically discriminated groups.
00:27:09.960Yes, the Irish were a historically discriminated group, both in their home country and in the United States.
00:27:16.520Yes, the Italians had it terribly, so terribly, by the way, that Frederick Douglass, former slave, famous activist, when he was doing a tour of southern Italy, he said that they lived in conditions worse than the American slaves.
00:27:30.040So I don't think that people realize how bad the Italians had it.
00:27:32.860Or that when they came to the U.S., people really did see them as like uneducated savages.
00:27:37.720And they did have a lot more organized crime than the current Hispanic immigrants to our country.
00:27:42.100But anyway, Anna Coulter, no kids, no husband.
00:27:44.880She's been through like five engagements, divorced every time, or broke up every time.
00:27:50.720Like you don't, breaking up even a single engagement, from my perspective, is a huge deal.
00:27:56.640Like it's not a normal human thing to do.
00:27:59.760Like having done it so many times that she says she can't even remember everyone she's been engaged to, that is a, you are in some way some sort of a psycho.
00:28:10.780But I think that this psychoship, this incredibly high standards, which leading to these people not getting married, I think is part of it, is part of this ultra authoritarian mindset.
00:28:21.780And this ultra outgroup hating mindset.
00:28:36.140But I also think love, I hate to say this, but we'll just say a positive experience and feeling of pride.
00:28:44.080Is a large driver of intergenerational durability and cultures, which is to say, if you really love your kids and give them a great experience and actually love each other, it's probably going to inspire those kids to want to do that themselves and pass it on.
00:28:59.640Whereas if you're doing this out of some sense of competition or pride or regimented stern religious ferocity, you're not going to see a lot of people want to pass that on when they're given a choice.
00:29:13.880And I think it's that they don't know how to treat or think about other humans fundamentally.
00:29:18.140So I can think about intuitions I've had recently where like you, the other day I accidentally locked her out of the bottom of the house because we generally bolt all of the inside doors of our house because we get so many death threats.
00:29:29.280And I really had to go to the bathroom.
00:29:31.180She had to go to the bathroom and then she was short with me for doing that upon telling me.
00:29:36.820And I, by the way, you could have gone to bathroom downstairs.
00:29:39.560You needed to go to your specific bathroom.
00:29:42.560But that's the toilet that the kids use.
00:29:44.620And I would have to completely wipe it down before I could.
00:30:11.040It wasn't like an argument or something like that before storming away to go to the bathroom.
00:30:16.560But I guess it's just that any sort of negative interaction with you is so rare that I know you're going to have this big existential reaction to having had one.
00:30:24.580And I feel bad about that because I don't want to cause you any negative emotion through anything I do.
00:30:31.120And it's just this thinking about another person first in all things is a mindset that is very hard for the person with a fascistic worldview to get behind.
00:30:42.840But it's something you need if you're going to make marriages really work, especially in a way where kids want to replicate that.
00:30:48.680Because you might be able to get your marriage to work.
00:30:50.840You might be able to stay in your household as a stern man spanking your wife like they used to in the 30s.
00:31:11.760And I think that this is why those groups will ultimately fail is even though they're part of the larger conservative alliance, they just are not very good when people can leave their culture and when they can't say stay in or we'll kill you at keeping their culture together.
00:31:27.320Now, I do think they'll spread in regions where they control people.
00:31:31.940There were people in Gaza who were against the war, but they were murdered by other people in their country.
00:31:38.340But there are other places in the world where the fascist group is dominant, where the group is my culture, my way of seeing things, everything must be militarized, everything must be my way or the highway, or we will come to your home and we will kill you and your children.
00:31:52.960That does exist as a majority viewpoint in some parts of the world, and those parts of the world, I think, are our cultural enemy.
00:31:59.520And there are people in this country who want to create that and act, oh, I'm so giddy, I'll partner with you for now.
00:32:05.260Or worse, they're like, no, we should do this in America today.
00:32:09.280And I'm like, first of all, I disrespect you because of your position.
00:32:12.300Second of all, I disrespect you because you're stupid.
00:32:14.820You do not control a majority large enough to take power or competent enough to take power.
00:32:20.440You control a bunch of low-economic-producing zealots who cannot make up even a single election or maybe a few local elections, but that's it.
00:32:34.360Like, you need a big-tent alliance to actually win, and you are sabotaging your own objectives, which should mostly be just living in peace because you're a minority population, which all conservative religious groups are in this country.
00:32:50.440Do you have thoughts? Because you are the smarter of us, and I know you're who fans really want to hear from.
00:32:55.380We saw this in a recent comment, and I will never let you hear the end of it.
00:32:58.220Yeah, the one out of thousands of comments.
00:33:00.340No, people upvoted it. Two people upvoted it, and then I've upvoted it.
00:33:08.280We know this is happening, and the whole reason why we are in this fight to a great extent is because we're concerned about a loss of plurality.
00:33:16.360It's sad to me that people would gloat about the fact that they are just going to outbreed other groups because when I hear that, I feel sad.
00:33:25.260I feel sad that we're losing those perspectives at the same time that I feel very frustrated by the perspectives of those we're losing.
00:33:48.360There was actually a tweet I saw recently that I really agree with, which said that 70% of maternal instincts are fulfilled with one kid, and 90% are fulfilled with two kids.
00:33:57.780That is why progressives cannot motivate high childbirth.
00:34:05.100Like, how could you do something to your kids that they don't want?
00:34:08.000And it's because I'm interested in something more than just doing what I want all the time, being affirmed for whoever I want to be all the time.
00:34:14.340But in this book, they talk about people who, like political lesbians are like political antinatalists, where they say, I'm not having children unless you vote Democrat, unless you fix climate change, unless.
00:34:31.380But I feel like the exact equivalent of that is these politically childful people on the right who are like, I'm going to have kids just to stick it to you.
00:34:42.320Have kids if you love them and you're going to be a good parent.
00:34:45.660First of all, which of these groups is actually good people, right?
00:34:49.020The people on the right who are doing it because they believe that their cultural group matters and are good guys, and they're willing to put their money where their mouth is and do the effort of raising kids, which is hard.
00:34:58.980That's what the other group believes, too.
00:35:01.300No, they're basically just cry bullies.
00:35:03.960They're like, I am going to threaten you by saying I won't have kids.
00:35:06.660They are really the suicide squad from Life of Brian.
00:35:09.900The crack suicide squad that goes off and he thinks he's going to be rescued and they all commit suicide and go, that'll show him.
00:35:16.080So you're getting people to sign a pledge basically saying that they will not have children until the Canadian government takes serious action on climate change.
00:35:51.840If they come to me and they're like, I have different political beliefs than you, and unless you adopt my political beliefs, I'm going to kill myself.
00:35:59.860And I'd be like, but I don't agree with you.
00:36:02.980I don't want to deal with the cleanup after you kill yourself, but I guess go ahead.
00:36:09.300Can you lay down some newspapers first?
00:36:11.480That's really the way I feel about progressives right now.
00:36:14.020Well, yeah, my point more largely is that I don't think that having kids should be politicized.
00:36:20.660As much as this is a politicized issue and as much as this is a major policy issue and point of discussing.
00:36:29.740I think that people should have kids because they think that the way of life that they have should continue to exist in the future.
00:36:36.920People who don't have a hypothesis about how to create a good way of life or who didn't have a good childhood and way of life growing up, it is righteous that they should have no kids because they will not be able to give the next generation a better life than they've had, which I think is always our duty is to create a generation that's better than us.
00:36:56.000So I do not mind that the people who can't even hypothesize a better civilization are the ones who are sterilizing themselves.
00:37:05.880And we have the episode that's on why running the pronatalist movement is so low stress, which I'd really suggest you guys check out.
00:37:21.720You're supposed to want to have children and this is your ultimate goal in life.
00:37:26.000It is a very archaic idea, an old idea, and representation of a woman.
00:37:37.840You're getting people to sign a pledge basically saying that they will not have children until the Canadian government takes serious action on climate change.
00:39:09.340But with progressives, I have less care because for me, the current progressive party has just become, do I really want to save the Nazis?
00:39:15.460Do I want to save these people who believe that humanity should be divided into an ethno-hierarchy with certain groups, human dignity mattering more than others, as you see with like COVID vaccines in our state being distributed based on race, not based on need.
00:39:31.580With certain ethnic groups getting access to it earlier or more extreme than that, the fact that they have literally become anti-Semitic now.
00:39:39.900They're like, oh, we just hate Zionists.
00:39:57.880And they're like, why would the Jews, why would the Jews think they need their own state to be safe?
00:40:04.180What historically could have happened to them that would lead to this insane perspective?
00:40:09.820The pogroms, the Holocaust, the constant genocides that they went through.
00:40:14.340Yeah, there's a reason why this is such a common perspective in Jewish circles.
00:40:18.020You guys are the delusional ones, and you are promoting a country that has already killed almost every person in it who promoted this not happening.
00:40:50.620What, as progressives, is a very small radicalized sub-faction...
00:40:55.380That controls the party and is setting policy.
00:40:58.460That's the problem, is that they're still controlling the lifestyles and the birth rates of the very reasonable and pluralistic people existing under their reign.
00:41:07.780You're saying, I support the Nazis who didn't support the...
00:41:11.860Okay, yeah, they voted for the Nazi party, but they personally weren't on board with the whole genocide thing.
00:41:18.280Bro, it doesn't matter if you're on board with the genocide thing or not.
00:41:22.280If you are voting in a way that puts those people in power, you are the consequence.
00:41:27.900Not the consequence, but you are leading to this consequence.
00:41:29.960You can say, I'm putting this person in power, but I disagree with the thing that they consistently do.
00:41:35.820I think that drawing a comparison to Nazis here is unfair because it's one thing to be aware of, for example, concentration camps.
00:41:42.920And it's another thing to not really understand what's going on with many progressive policies, which one's entire life, one has been taught, are backed by science, reason, and goodness.
00:41:52.780Yeah, to the children transitioning things.
00:41:56.200I support trans adults, but children transitioning, even the most recent study...
00:44:05.540I'm just saying that there is a vastly large mainstream progressive audience that is incredibly centrist.
00:44:14.260That is, look at how all elections work, right?
00:44:16.200The primaries, you get these extreme candidates, and then they spend the entire general election lead up trying to look as centrist as possible.
00:45:02.820I got to finish this statement here, okay?
00:45:04.520But progressives of today are being convinced to take these actions to go into neighborhoods to burn down people's stores with people inside.
00:45:17.120Malcolm, the mainstream centrist progressives are not doing that.
00:45:20.880They are allowing it by not shutting it down.
00:45:23.340These should be met with local police forces where they are banned the police and stuff like that.
00:45:32.640These people are living in a world where the mainstream media frames this as a mostly peaceful protest and people don't understand what's happening on the ground.