Based Camp - Is Trans Identity an Alternative to Suicide For Some？

00:00:00.000 What if this mimetic structure, which encourages transition, instead of being something that is intrinsically toxic, is actually a social technology that evolved to treat the increased nihilism and bubicidality caused by the urban monoculture?

00:00:19.500 I like that as a premise. Spicy.

00:00:22.400 So how could it do this? When you transition, you are basically abandoning an identity, your current identity, and then building a new one.

00:00:33.660 You're literally killing it, actually. For example, deadnaming people is deadnaming them. That person is dead to them.

00:00:39.820 What is most disturbing is that after a year on blockers, a significant increase was found in the first item, quote, I deliberately try to hurt or kill self, end quote.

00:00:50.440 This is in the US survey questionnaire. So it was increasing. Puberty blockers increased, even by Travis Stock's own, as pro-trans as you can think it, they just didn't want to publish this, increases bubicidality. 0.95

00:01:02.940 Would you like to know more?

00:01:04.680 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be spitting some information and new theories with you that I have had recently today.

00:01:12.220 Today, we are going to go back into the trans rabbit hole. We are going to be discussing a new framing I heard for gender transition that makes me dramatically more pro-gender transition than I ever have been historically. 0.70

00:01:28.840 And the way that gender transition has played out in mainstream society, which is really interesting, which I think is different than just talking about trans issues.

00:01:36.940 As I said before in the show, I think that there's the historic trans movement, and now there's the new trans movement, which contains some elements that are more like a religion than like a traditional gender ideology movement.

00:01:50.720 Now, the second thing I wanted to talk about, which I find really interesting, is a recent Emil Kierkegaard, I know, thought criminal piece, that was talking about something that everyone basically knows, but I thought he did a pretty good job of summarizing it and laying out the stats again,

00:02:06.820 which is that trans people are much more likely to be high IQ than other individuals.

00:02:14.800 And this isn't like a small thing. In fact, the difference between trans people and the general population is higher than the difference between Ashkenazi Jews and the general population.

00:02:27.660 About a standard deviation higher IQ than the general population.

00:02:30.880 And that doesn't surprise me, because you're looking at a very small, very unique, and very differentiated population, and Ashkenazi Jews are not that different from the general population.

00:02:41.360 What are you talking about this?

00:02:42.140 Compared to trans people? 1.00

00:02:43.180 Compared to trans people. 1.00

00:02:44.220 For example, gay people have a lower IQ on average than they do. 1.00

00:02:47.940 No. Really? 0.99

00:02:49.400 Yes. Yes. No, this group is really unique.

00:02:52.880 Wow.

00:02:53.340 And they checked. It's not explained by anything else. It's not that they're disproportionately birthed male or female. It's not that they're age. It's not that they're...

00:03:00.060 They don't have a different... Do they have a different... I feel like there's pretty much every background. Culturally, religiously, ethically.

00:03:06.520 No, but they controlled for that in this study.

00:03:08.540 They did. Oh, okay.

00:03:09.740 That doesn't matter to this answer. It's just something disproportionately... Now, this is actually really interesting if what we are seeing in the modern trans movement is a disorder. 0.55

00:03:19.920 So, one of the things I say about transness is it would make sense if human brains are gender differentiated to some extent, like that seems obvious, that sometimes this gender differentiation would get messed up in like a systemic way, like intersex people exist, stuff like that. Like, why wouldn't that happen in the brain?

00:03:37.380 Sure.

00:03:37.680 But if that was what was causing the modern trans movement, usually when somebody has a major deformity, basically, we'll say some sort of like psychiatric condition or deformity like this, they are in a lower IQ group, which just makes sense. 1.00

00:03:51.400 When you have one weird mutation in the way somebody's developing, you're likely to have other weird mutations. You're likely to just have a higher genetic load.

00:03:59.900 Right. And the trans status is not having that is really interesting. In fact, there's only two other conditions that fall into that. One is autism. 0.84

00:04:10.520 Must be schizophrenia, right?

00:04:12.360 No, schizophrenia is not associated with higher IQ. The other is anorexia.

00:04:16.160 No! All right. I've got a two for here.

00:04:19.720 This gets really interesting. And there's a high correlation with transness and autism. So, I suspect that this is what's actually booing the IQ. 0.99

00:04:27.540 Body dysmorphia.

00:04:28.460 Yeah. Yeah. So, I think it's just that they're drawing disproportionately from the autistic community. And I'll explain. And I think it's part of the memetic structure only works in higher IQ people. And I'll explain what I mean by this in just a second. 0.94

00:04:40.900 Oh, yeah. That anorexia is interesting and that the studies that have looked at it, it's pretty different from a lot of other disorders. It appears a lot more like a multiple personality disorder in that it appears to be culturally transmitted to an extent.

00:04:54.460 A great example of this is it was pretty unheard of in Japan until the, like, 1970s when they really began to consume Western media.

00:05:02.360 Interesting.

00:05:02.620 And then they had an explosion of it.

00:05:04.000 And so, one thing could be is that when something is culturally transmitted, it is more likely to appeal to high IQ populations. But also think about it this way. If you look at autistic people, they develop special interests slash obsessions. 0.98

00:05:20.280 And some, there was actually a study done on detransitioners, where a lot of them said that transitioning was their special interest. They didn't realize it at the time, but it was one of their sort of autistic special interests.

00:05:31.580 And I think you're missing also a major filtering thing here too, which is the level of conscientiousness, which correlates with IQ, if memory serves, that goes into being both anorexic and a transitioner.

00:05:43.400 And some of these other weird things is that the amount of self-control you need to have to be successfully anorexic and to successfully transition is...

00:05:53.400 But that's a good point. It's a differentiator that requires higher self-control instead of lower self-control, which most psychological illnesses you're going to have.

00:06:02.320 But I'm going to get to a spicy take here. So, as you remember, when I was younger, I would do a lot of studying how brainwashing works and building. I'd look at different sequences of words and I would mast A-B test them in online environments to find the perfect way to get women to sleep with me. 0.68

00:06:24.000 That's a strong interest to me. I was very interested in how cults brainwash people, how they get them to transform their identity, and how I could utilize those techniques.

00:06:36.340 And I will admit, I was not a great person at the time to get my immediate needs met.

00:06:40.180 I just then reached a point where I saturated those needs and then was able to think clearly and realized that I never should have wanted those needs in the first place, and that a life built in pursuit of sexual conquest is not a life that is ever going to be fulfilling to anyone.

00:06:55.540 I don't believe any of these people who pretend that they're fulfilled by this art. I think they're deeply sad people.

00:06:59.880 But one of the techniques that I learned, and this isn't brainwashing, it's more like a logical structure, like a memetic structure, which was very effective at getting people to sleep with me.

00:07:11.220 But anyway, these techniques that I was using, they were often like a memetic structure, and they did not work very well on people of medium to low IQ.

00:07:22.840 I really struggled with it. And people can be like, that's surprising. You think that they would be like...

00:07:27.740 The gullible, dumb people who would... 1.00

00:07:29.880 The gullible, dumb people. 1.00

00:07:31.040 Yes, yeah. 1.00

00:07:31.720 But that's not true. Logical structures, if what you're doing is like implanting a memetic machine...

00:07:36.640 Logical structures only work on logical people, and fewer people are logical than one might like to conclude.

00:07:41.720 Yeah, they basically break it down when you put it in their head.

00:07:44.680 So I'll give you an example of one of these structures so people can understand broadly how like a memetic machine works.

00:07:51.600 So this is a very simple one that I use to get someone to sleep with me, but somebody can understand you might have a more complex self-replicating structure,

00:07:58.220 which is I think what part of the modern trans movement is.

00:08:01.160 But just for the sleep with me structure.

00:08:03.460 Okay.

00:08:04.220 You know, starts with a question like, you don't find me unattractive, right?

00:08:08.240 And very few people are going to... You're broadly attractive.

00:08:11.240 I do.

00:08:11.880 I think you're attractive.

00:08:13.380 Yeah.

00:08:13.600 And I'm like, and you think like happiness and positive emotional subsets are like an intrinsically good thing.

00:08:20.340 Like you want more pleasure and happiness in the world.

00:08:23.780 And they're like, yeah.

00:08:25.180 And I'm like, and because you find me good looking, it would make you feel good to hook up with me.

00:08:30.320 And it would make me feel good to hook up with you.

00:08:33.640 Therefore, what is your argument against hooking up with me?

00:08:37.100 And what I am setting up there is a pillar system.

00:08:41.200 So people might not see what I'm doing.

00:08:42.400 I actually want them to give me an answer there, right?

00:08:44.800 Because then they have established their logical pillars as to why they're not open to me hooking up.

00:08:49.680 And then you just get to attack their remaining pillars.

00:08:52.620 And then you knock over the pillars and you've got the sale.

00:08:55.860 But people can see that's a very simple, logical set.

00:08:59.240 Actually, this might be why when I began building like deeper philosophy outside of just,

00:09:03.440 I want to win these status games I was born into in the society around me.

00:09:07.600 I had such a disrespect of systems based around pleasure.

00:09:11.080 Because I saw how I had been able to use those systems to so easily memetically hack people.

00:09:17.700 Now, so there's two things you probably notice about this logical structure argument, right?

00:09:22.240 Two, it's going to, one, it's going to be less effective on less intelligent people.

00:09:27.580 And two, it's actually going to be much more effective on more autistic leaning people.

00:09:31.340 I wouldn't work on me because I don't really care about pleasure or happiness.

00:09:35.760 No, you never did.

00:09:36.600 But a lot of people do.

00:09:37.880 They have, I'd say the vast majority of people we've talked about in our levels of thinking video

00:09:41.760 are these general utilitarian, and they do.

00:09:44.780 And it's very hard for general utilitarian to argue against that argument once they set themselves in that position.

00:09:51.540 Yeah.

00:09:51.840 And I think that's what the, you can think of this larger transmemetic structure as.

00:09:57.920 It's a self-replicating memetic structure that needs a fairly high competence substrate to grow with it.

00:10:07.380 Yeah.

00:10:07.640 And when a substrate is lower competence, it begins to break down because it's fairly heavy, I would say.

00:10:13.580 Like it's a fairly sophisticated internally reinforcing memetic subset.

00:10:17.480 So this is one thing, but now I want to talk about the boobicide because we can't talk about it in any other terms, 0.84

00:10:24.540 given YouTube's restrictions and everything like that.

00:10:27.860 But as people know.

00:10:29.460 Let's be clear that we're not talking about mastectivies here.

00:10:32.700 No, I'm talking about the other word that starts with an S that we cannot talk about.

00:10:37.740 Yes.

00:10:38.940 Transness relates to boobicide in a couple really weird ways. 0.99

00:10:43.360 And I began to think about these.

00:10:48.000 You see this huge portion of increased boobicidality leading up to transition for a lot of people.

00:10:56.360 And some studies have argued against this.

00:10:58.400 I think it's probably true.

00:11:00.580 But you also see an increased risk of boobicide in the general population now that has never existed before.

00:11:07.260 And so I'm going to post some stats on screen here.

00:11:11.060 And it was like, okay, so you've got trans individuals in this sample.

00:11:15.500 Boobicidal ideation, you're looking at 92% had it.

00:11:18.840 And 45% had an attempt in the sample.

00:11:21.580 Not trans, you had 70% had it. 1.00

00:11:25.300 And 22% had an attempt.

00:11:27.700 Non-binary, 89% had it.

00:11:30.120 And 35% had an attempt.

00:11:32.780 You're just seeing like incredibly high rates.

00:11:35.620 I wonder what these numbers look like for anorexics.

00:11:38.000 Is that being a sort of control population?

00:11:39.600 Just this specific study was from the Stonewall School Support 2017.

00:11:44.340 A lot of critics have attacked it.

00:11:46.620 But let's just pretend that these numbers are true.

00:11:49.100 Because we do know that there is an explosion in boobicidality among young people right now.

00:11:53.860 Yeah.

00:11:54.500 What if transition, instead of being, or this memetic structure which encourages transition,

00:12:00.840 instead of being something that is intrinsically toxic,

00:12:04.820 is actually a social technology that evolved to treat the increased nihilism and boobicidality

00:12:13.800 caused by the urban monoculture.

00:12:16.900 I like that as a premise.

00:12:19.180 Spicy.

00:12:19.860 So how could it do this?

00:12:21.880 When you transition, you are basically abandoning an identity, your current identity,

00:12:28.480 and then building a new one.

00:12:30.800 You're literally killing it, actually.

00:12:32.480 For example, deadnaming people is deadnaming them.

00:12:35.340 That person is dead to them.

00:12:37.220 You are like a phoenix, completely immolating and rising from the ashes is this new, beautiful identity.

00:12:45.460 Yeah.

00:12:46.560 So isn't that fascinating?

00:12:49.660 That's what we're actually seeing here.

00:12:50.760 And something that would encourage this belief is that if you look cross-culturally,

00:12:55.660 the concept of transness that you see within Native American communities is actually very interesting

00:13:00.100 because it doesn't look like the concept of transness we have within our own culture.

00:13:04.320 Are you talking about two-spirit people?

00:13:07.100 Yeah, it was in two-spirit people and Fafafin people, which is in Samoa.

00:13:11.520 You have a similar concept.

00:13:13.420 So in these groups, while they have been adopted as a type of trans by the current trans community,

00:13:18.960 they don't actually function like trans people.

00:13:22.340 They're more like a recognition of gay people as a separate gender.

00:13:27.300 So if I was going to word this differently, these would be like if you were recognized as Fafai, for example.

00:13:33.320 As a young man, you are allowed to take part in female gender norms and sleep with straight men or otherwise categorized by society as heterosexual men,

00:13:45.320 but would likely in real life, like in our society, not in real life, in Western culture be categorized as gay pitchers.

00:13:51.320 Now, it's also important to understand that gay pitchers historically were considered straight.

00:13:56.400 If you look at like ancient Greece, if you look at even in medieval Europe,

00:14:00.840 men who were the tops in gay relationships were often considered straight or straight adjacent.

00:14:06.920 The thing you really weren't supposed to be is the bottom.

00:14:09.040 Wait, I've not heard pitchers before.

00:14:11.300 So what's the other side of this?

00:14:12.420 Batters? 0.80

00:14:12.940 Catchers and catchers.

00:14:14.340 Okay, thank you.

00:14:15.460 Carry on.

00:14:16.100 So what's really interesting about Fafai is they basically live their lives in two spirits, 0.99

00:14:21.020 very similar to the way we would say an effete gay man lives their lives. 0.94

00:14:26.120 And they're happy and they're not having these higher rates of boobicide that you're seeing in other groups that we're seeing in the West.

00:14:33.300 Which really indicates that there's something different going on here with this community.

00:14:38.240 You mean totally unmoored from mainstream developed societal concepts around trans men?

00:14:44.620 Totally unmoored from our biologies.

00:14:46.660 Ah, okay.

00:14:48.140 So what would be the case, as I'm saying here, is that if we didn't have this trans identity, 0.98

00:14:52.800 many of the people who are transitioning would just be considered butch lesbians or very ethete gay men. 0.95

00:14:58.920 And one of the studies that was done this year that is worth mentioning is you also see this in the West. 0.92

00:15:03.720 There was a study done in 2023.

00:15:05.080 Great study.

00:15:05.540 I'll give the name in the edits here.

00:15:07.860 I was thinking of the 2024 study, Development of Gender Non-Contentedness During Adolescence and Early Adulthood.

00:15:14.700 90% of, when you're talking about 11-year-olds, who identify with a different gender at that age, identify with their birth gender by the time that they are 23.

00:15:24.120 And a lot of them are disproportionately within this group.

00:15:28.500 They were just gay. 1.00

00:15:29.680 That's basically what we find out. 0.87

00:15:31.100 This is a common thing here.

00:15:32.560 But I want to go deeper here because I looked at some other reports.

00:15:36.600 So there was another report, and I'll put it on screen here, which shows something really interesting.

00:15:42.540 So you might have noticed in the other group, boobicidality among non-binary individuals was also really high.

00:15:47.440 Yeah, that surprised me.

00:15:49.780 But it's not just binary.

00:15:52.240 It's also bisexuals.

00:15:54.640 So I'm going to put another graph on the screen here, and you don't need to see it to know, but the female-to-male boobicide rate is high, but not particularly higher than the bisexual girl boobicide rate, right?

00:16:08.340 What if what we're seeing here is people who are gender confused are much more likely to be pulled in to these ideas, right?

00:16:20.980 And then we're going to be like, who gets gender confused?

00:16:23.320 Who gets pulled into these ideas?

00:16:24.560 And now we need to talk about a whole other weird thing about boobicidality.

00:16:27.860 In the news, you're not supposed to talk about boobicidality.

00:16:31.040 Who, like the World Health Organization, has prohibitions on talking about boobicidality?

00:16:36.020 Mm, because there is a bit of a social contagion with it, right?

00:16:39.340 It's not a bit of a social contagion.

00:16:41.860 It's a serious social contagion.

00:16:43.340 Very, very serious social contagion.

00:16:45.180 But yeah, no, you have a very big risk of contagion when people hear about boobicidality.

00:16:49.920 They're much more likely to think about boobicidality, which is why in all other parts of psychology, there would be like, obviously, you should never tell a patient, if you have X condition, you're much more likely to be boobicidal.

00:17:01.640 Because it makes them much more likely to be boobicidal.

00:17:04.140 Oh.

00:17:04.580 And then we can say, oh, come on, that can't have anything to do with what's going on here.

00:17:10.820 Except there are two groups that are uniquely susceptible to suggestibility when it comes to boobicidality.

00:17:20.260 They are teenagers and autists, which are also groups that are hugely overrepresented within the trans movement.

00:17:28.820 To get an idea, 72% of autistic adults scored above the psychiatric cutoff for boobicide risk compared to 33% of the general population.

00:17:38.300 So you basically have this boast cause that you can implant in somebody's rage, which is boobicidal ideation, and then a solution as one memetic package, which is very good at spreading in our society.

00:17:54.120 But that historically, you would never tell people.

00:17:58.940 This reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman, Rob Reiner, is trying to sacrifice Cartman to prove to everyone how serious his movement is.

00:18:07.900 And I feel like with many of the young people, if you're a trained psychologist, you need to know that you are, through bringing these kids into a session and being like, oh, if you don't do this, you're going to commit boobicides, that you're going to dramatically increase the number of young people in this cohort boobiciding. 1.00

00:18:23.900 And yet they don't seem to care, even when there is a lot of data showing that it may not even be higher within this cohort.

00:18:31.620 And so we're going to get to that in a second.

00:18:33.060 But it almost certainly is higher now.

00:18:34.700 Just everything we understand about how boobicide works would say, if these people are going to an authority figure, and this authority figure is telling you, this is the one solution to not boobicide, then it's going to become the one solution to not boobicide, especially if you're autistic.

00:18:49.260 Wow.

00:18:51.760 Yeah. 0.95

00:18:52.160 What the hell do you think you're doing?

00:18:55.520 This is the girls' bathroom. 1.00

00:18:57.480 All right, I need to tell you something.

00:18:58.740 I'm transgender.

00:19:00.620 What?

00:19:01.300 Did you notice the bow?

00:19:02.340 It's okay, Red. 1.00

00:19:02.940 I can take a shit here. 1.00

00:19:03.660 I'm a dumb chick, too. 1.00

00:19:04.400 You are not transgender, Eric. 1.00

00:19:07.080 You don't even know what that means.

00:19:09.000 Yeah, huh?

00:19:09.380 It means I live a life of torture and confusion because society sees me as a boy, but I'm really a girl.

00:19:13.340 Trust me, you don't want this hot potato.

00:19:15.820 But this isn't a hurting, confused child we're talking about.

00:19:18.560 This is Eric Cartman.

00:19:19.520 Nobody else is going to know that.

00:19:21.700 You better just give him what he wants.

00:19:23.780 All you got to do is just read the words on the teleprompter here.

00:19:27.120 Okay.

00:19:28.080 Let's see how the transphobes deal with this.

00:19:30.980 You know, some people say there's no proof that's not transitioning children.

00:19:34.880 Kills, I guess I'm the proof.

00:19:39.140 By the time you see this commercial, I'll be dead. 0.99

00:19:44.580 Dead?

00:19:45.540 That was fantastic.

00:19:47.180 What does that mean, I'll be dead?

00:19:49.100 That was very good, Eric.

00:19:50.940 Here, eat this cupcake.

00:19:53.560 It has sprinkles.

00:19:56.240 Do you know what a hero is?

00:19:57.440 A hero is somebody who sacrifices himself for the good of others.

00:20:02.040 You can be a hero, Eric.

00:20:05.320 Jesus Christ!

00:20:06.720 So we could see it as a, quote unquote, solution to the increased nihilism of our society, right?

00:20:13.300 Yeah, or you could, you're insinuating too, though, that they're creating the problem and then presenting a solution.

00:20:18.760 But that's the problem as well.

00:20:20.200 It's not really a solution because they're also creating the problem.

00:20:23.120 Right.

00:20:25.260 And they might be making the problem worse.

00:20:28.720 So if you look at some of these other studies that I've been giving you, they'll have like small cohorts, like 13 people or something that's actually in the boobicide group.

00:20:36.740 This is what I call it, the PACE study.

00:20:37.980 But there's some longer, and another thing that the trans community does, a lot of trans individuals might not know that they do this, is when they talk about transitioning, lowering the risk of boobicidality, they're often using different studies.

00:20:50.520 So to establish the risk, they'll use a study that was specifically pulling from like a concerned population.

00:20:57.280 And so the risk will be really high.

00:20:59.000 That's why it was really high in the straight population was in that study as well.

00:21:02.100 And then when establishing the lowered rates, they'll then pull from a separate study that was pulling individuals in a totally different way.

00:21:10.020 When you look at longitudinal studies, you end up with studies like this one called the Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Study.

00:21:18.500 Cohort study in Sweden.

00:21:20.520 So to quote here, the overall mortality for sex reassignment persons was higher during follow-up than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from boobicide.

00:21:31.100 Boobicide, sex reassignment persons also had an increased risk in boobicide attempts and psychiatric inpatient care.

00:21:39.320 So it showed that they had a 19x higher rate than the control group.

00:21:43.180 So it made them, when you're looking longitudinally, it basically makes everything astronomically worse.

00:21:50.880 Okay, so let's look at a different study here.

00:21:52.960 The National Center for Transgender Equality Preventing Transgender Boobicide is the name of this study.

00:21:59.460 So in this study, it was looking at the Travistock Board of Directors and unpublished reports.

00:22:07.780 So people know the whole Travistock thing.

00:22:10.140 They were this very pro-trans organization.

00:22:12.940 And so there was a reason they didn't publish this report, but they had it when people were going through their files after they were shut down for abuse.

00:22:19.540 And it says, quote, only one change was positive.

00:22:23.840 According to their parents, the young people experienced, this is for people who underwent puberty blockers.

00:22:28.980 Only one change was positive.

00:22:30.220 According to their parents, the young people experienced less internalizing behavioral problems as registered by the child behavioral checklist.

00:22:37.720 That was a less internalizing behavioral problems.

00:22:40.340 There were three negative changes.

00:22:41.660 Natal girls showed a significant increase in behavioral and emotional problems, according to their parents, also from the child behavioral checklist.

00:22:49.040 Oh, that's the testosterone for you.

00:22:51.220 Of course, right?

00:22:52.460 So I don't even really take that.

00:22:53.500 Yeah, that doesn't count.

00:22:54.360 One dimension of health related to quality of life scale completed by parents showed a significant decrease.

00:22:59.840 And keep in mind, these are affirming parents generally of their kids who are at Travistock.

00:23:03.080 For sure.

00:23:03.740 A decrease in physical well-being of their child.

00:23:06.120 What is most disturbing is that after a year on blockers, a significant increase was found in the first item, quote, I deliberately try to hurt or kill self, end quote.

00:23:17.280 This is in the used survey questionnaire.

00:23:19.200 So it was increasing, puberty blockers increase, even by Travistock's own, as pro-trans as you can think it, they just didn't want to publish this, increases bubicidality. 0.85

00:23:28.420 Do you think that's because in these cases, people were transitioning and then discovering that it didn't miraculously cure their depression, anxiety, or body dysmorphia?

00:23:39.040 Yeah, they talk about this a lot in the community.

00:23:41.120 You first get this feeling of euphoria when you're on this because you feel like things are changing, everything's getting fixed.

00:23:46.800 And then following the euphoria, you typically get a really high increased risk of bubicidality because you begin to doubt, but now you've also othered yourselves and made a lot of cognitive dissonance.

00:24:00.820 Yeah.

00:24:01.580 So there was a large U.S. survey in 2009 by the National Center for Transgender Equality and the National Gay and Lesbian Tax Force.

00:24:10.240 The results were published in the National Transgender Discrimination Survey report on health and health care, and it showed those who have medically transitioned, 45%, and surgically transitioned, 43%, have higher rates of attempted bubicide than those who have not, 34% and 39%, respectively.

00:24:29.380 Across the board, we're seeing that this doesn't actually fix.

00:24:31.940 It's more like a temporary fix for bubicidal ideation that makes the problem worse over time.

00:24:41.020 Here's what I might argue, going back to the earlier point that transitioning can feel like a rebirth following a death, right?

00:24:49.880 That maybe, you and I have talked about before, the impact of completely changing your context.

00:24:55.680 How if you have an addiction or some other emotional problem, if you move to Japan to quit smoking or you completely change the cast of characters around you, your costume and your set, yes, you can become a different character.

00:25:07.820 And yes, you can break out of a lot of really harmful or nonproductive mental loops.

00:25:13.680 And I think maybe the problem here is transition can absolutely facilitate that by allowing you to break down and then create a new identity.

00:25:21.280 The problem is a lot of these kids, especially, and I think maybe we're looking at the impact of this happening with youth gender transition versus adult transition, is these kids are still stuck with their parents.

00:25:32.220 They're still stuck going to school.

00:25:33.900 They're able to try to start the process, but really it's an aborted death and rebirth.

00:25:38.540 Like they've singed the phoenix, but the phoenix has not become engulfed in flames and turned into ashes, right?

00:25:44.580 The phoenix is now just burnt.

00:25:46.360 And now you have a burnt phoenix, right?

00:25:48.120 And they haven't been reborn.

00:25:49.400 They haven't been able to start anew.

00:25:50.660 So the problem is they're not going to work.

00:25:51.720 I'm going to challenge you here.

00:25:53.120 I think it's probably pretty effective.

00:25:55.280 For a short term, feeling like a different person and reestablishing the narratives with which you're engaging with reality, I think it is probably very effective.

00:26:02.920 The problem is the new narratives that they're building, if you look at our levels of thought, are aesthetic moral systems based around gender identity, which, i.e., when they're choosing an action, what to wear, what to do, et cetera.

00:26:16.880 The question that they're thinking is, does this align with ex-gender expression?

00:26:22.300 And the gender expression may be nuanced, but they confuse gender identity with morality, right? 0.52

00:26:30.320 Instead of, and I think that this is the problem.

00:26:32.640 I think most people with any sort of sophisticated moral framework, unfortunately, and this is the thing, like sophisticated moral frameworks do not correlate really strongly with high IQ.

00:26:42.960 You need to be above a certain IQ to have one.

00:26:45.340 But if you look at something like my Stanford reunion, remember I mentioned that, like, a lot of people there were just living lives to get the money counter as high as possible?

00:26:53.200 Status optimizers or achievement optimizers.

00:26:54.760 Yeah, status and money optimizers. 0.96

00:26:56.500 That's, like, the least sophisticated moral framework a human can have.

00:27:00.200 And yet these people are, like, objectively some of the smartest humans of our generation.

00:27:04.580 And I know this is someone who interacts with a lot of people.

00:27:06.600 Like, these are smart people.

00:27:07.620 Some of them smarter than myself.

00:27:09.140 But that doesn't mean that they are philosophically sophisticated, that they have engaged with the why do I exist?

00:27:15.920 It's just, okay, I'm going to optimize money.

00:27:18.840 So I'm not saying that, so being extra smart does not protect you, but it can make you susceptible if you are not intently engaging with your own philosophy on these sort of self-replicating moral frameworks.

00:27:32.420 The problem that you're going to deal with is most sophisticated moral frameworks would see gender identity as just not particularly important because most sophisticated moral frameworks do not find human emotion, like, optimizing for self-comfort or positive emotional states in oneself as a thing of moral value.

00:27:52.300 Or as aesthetic presentation is something of great moral value.

00:27:56.120 Yeah.

00:27:56.420 It doesn't matter that much, right?

00:27:58.280 Yeah, they're just like, why does it matter?

00:28:00.180 If I can do this to become slightly more efficient, then I'll do it.

00:28:03.720 It's probably not going to make me more efficient.

00:28:05.940 And this also, when you look at the trans-maxing community, you can see it was an it. 0.97

00:28:10.080 Like, these are incels who are like, look, I just can't make it in life as a guy, so I'll be a woman because life is easier for women. 1.00

00:28:18.260 They're like, being a woman is like living life in tutorial mode. 1.00

00:28:21.640 Okay, your ceiling is lower, but I was never going to get near the ceiling either.

00:28:24.960 Um, and these individuals, for them, what is it but the incel alternative to boobicide, right?

00:28:33.220 Okay, game over.

00:28:34.460 I'm starting again within this lifetime.

00:28:37.340 The other really interesting thing to consider here is that trans men, so women who transition, they often look about 10 to 20 years younger when they transition.

00:28:48.200 So it's also like they're being reborn at a younger age.

00:28:50.860 Oh, yeah.

00:28:53.300 Okay, yes.

00:28:54.180 They look more like a boy, adolescent male rather than a man.

00:28:58.620 Yeah.

00:28:59.200 Yeah.

00:28:59.760 Which is really interesting within all of this.

00:29:02.680 Yeah, new start and a younger start.

00:29:04.680 That's very interesting.

00:29:05.500 Another really interesting thing.

00:29:06.720 I've been listening to a lot of detransition videos recently.

00:29:09.100 Another really interesting phenomenon in detransitioner is they talk about how when they detransition, it was like the transition just encapsulated almost the way like a foreign body in your body can get encapsulated by a little piece of skin, like a piece of glass or something like that.

00:29:26.200 Like inside your, not skin, but like tissue that's meant to protect your body from it.

00:29:30.360 Kind of like how clams make pearls?

00:29:32.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:33.340 They encapsulated all of this negative stuff about their previous identity that then explodes when they detransition again and they need to deal with it.

00:29:42.500 Like nothing was ever really dealt with.

00:29:44.940 It was just encapsulated and set aside.

00:29:48.140 And it's waiting there for them.

00:29:49.460 Like a cyst in their body that's going to burst.

00:29:52.340 Yeah.

00:29:53.220 Oof.

00:29:54.780 Which is sad.

00:29:57.260 And so people can say, why do we look at all this?

00:29:59.120 I think at least Simone would have definitely transitioned. 1.00

00:30:02.360 So I've got to look at my daughter's likely transitioning when I need to think of how do I build a system where, and I'm not saying I'm against them transitioning.

00:30:11.100 I just want to make sure.

00:30:11.960 How do you think our daughters and not our sons would transition or feel gender dysmorphia in some way?

00:30:16.320 I think that women and men transitioning now, if you look at the deleterious type of transitioning, they're doing it for different reasons and it plays to different things. 1.00

00:30:25.580 And yeah, I guess the fact that I was an anorexic, autistic adolescent probably doesn't work well in terms of genetic tendencies.

00:30:33.720 Plus, I think our sons are so hyper-masculine already that it would be weird.

00:30:36.880 I don't think that really fits.

00:30:38.000 A lot of people who transition actually do really fit their gender subtype before they do.

00:30:43.000 I think a lot of people, there's two groups that I think are deleterious transitioning groups. 1.00

00:30:49.080 One is the women who feel love-bombed and social pressured and everything like that. 0.99

00:30:52.960 And that's the group I think our daughters might fall into because it's very good against very intelligent autistic women. 1.00

00:30:59.160 Or it's very good at, not against, but at convincing them when they're not actually trans individuals.

00:31:03.360 Keep in mind, I said I do believe that actual trans individuals exist.

00:31:06.320 But with men, I think that there's another group that's really exploded within the trans movement.

00:31:13.300 And these are what historically, like when I was really involved with the GSA and stuff like this,

00:31:18.460 we saw some of these individuals and we just shamed them to no heaven because everybody knew what was up. 0.95

00:31:22.900 They were cis guys who were pretending to be trans to harass lesbian women. 0.97

00:31:29.520 And everybody knew what they were up to. 0.97

00:31:31.660 Like they didn't try to transition really.

00:31:34.180 They just used the identity to get into lesbian spaces or to get into other. 1.00

00:31:39.700 And people can be like, come on, nobody's doing this really.

00:31:42.140 And I'm like, okay.

00:31:44.560 Or nobody with power is doing this really.

00:31:46.960 Look up like Alok Bade-Memin, right? 0.73

00:31:49.520 I recently saw, so I keep thinking this person must be like a minority player in the gender identity movement.

00:31:57.360 Is this someone's name?

00:31:59.180 Yes, Alok Bade-Memin.

00:32:00.580 So recently a friend, randomly, like a Facebook friend shared a video of his and was like, wow,

00:32:06.100 I think he's one of the deepest, or she, or I don't know.

00:32:09.320 I think he's on binary.

00:32:12.020 Gender neutral.

00:32:14.140 They are one of the most, and I do care about correctly gendering people, by the way.

00:32:20.580 People should see this in this.

00:32:21.560 I do care about it because they've gone through a lot of their culture.

00:32:23.880 I don't want to hurt them.

00:32:24.160 And then you can say Alok is.

00:32:25.920 I don't want them to force people who aren't in that group to, if a Christian doesn't want to do it, whatever, don't do it.

00:32:31.180 And I want the Christian to have the right to not do it. 1.00

00:32:32.960 But I'm going to do it because I just don't want to hurt people's feelings.

00:32:34.820 That's my culture.

00:32:35.520 If I don't have a strong reason to hurt someone's feelings, I shouldn't be hurting their feelings.

00:32:39.220 But anyway, this individual on my Facebook wall was being shared as like a good thinker in the space.

00:32:44.900 And I thought that maybe they had been like popular at one point, weren't still popular.

00:32:49.400 So the thing that they're famous for saying is, quote, 0.98

00:32:52.400 these days the narrative is that freaky transgender people will come into your bathrooms and abuse innocent little girls. 0.98

00:33:00.560 There are no fairy tales and no princesses here. 1.00

00:33:03.500 Little girls are also queer, trans, kinky, deviant, kind, mean, beautiful, ugly, tremendous, and peculiar. 1.00

00:33:11.160 Your kids aren't as straight and narrow as you think. 0.99

00:33:13.320 This is, I think obviously to me, this reminds me of. 1.00

00:33:15.960 Oh, I should have never shoved all those poor animals up my ass. 1.00

00:33:24.920 God damn it, don't you people get it? 1.00

00:33:27.000 I'm trying to get fired here. 1.00

00:33:29.800 Oh, that's courageous.

00:33:31.300 Look, this kind of behavior should not be acceptable.

00:33:34.260 Yeah, Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:33:36.120 But the museum tells us to be tolerant, but not stupid. 0.91

00:33:41.380 Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn't mean you have to approve of it. 0.95

00:33:45.420 Tolerate means you're just putting up with it.

00:33:47.620 You tolerate a crying child sitting next to you on the airplane, or you tolerate a bad cold.

00:33:52.540 It can still piss you off.

00:33:53.940 Jesus, tap dancing cr-

00:33:55.160 He's right.

00:33:56.000 Our boys didn't hate homosexuals. 1.00

00:33:57.560 They just hated the way this asshole was acting. 1.00

00:33:59.320 And this is the problem. 1.00

00:34:01.020 You let enough assholes like this guy have the public stage for long enough, 1.00

00:34:05.600 and people begin to start hating gay people more broadly, 1.00

00:34:09.120 because they begin to believe all gay people are like this.

00:34:12.840 And this is uniquely a problem, is that real, normal, queer people or gay people 1.00

00:34:17.840 don't have this intense desire to parade themselves around in public doing these perverted things. 0.96

00:34:24.420 That's just a sex pass.

00:34:25.780 And so, if you're an average person just trying to live your life,

00:34:29.300 you're actually going to encounter, whether it's on TV or in Netflix specials,

00:34:34.360 this sex pass category much more frequently, even if they're the minority of the community.

00:34:39.280 Which is why it's so important that the rest of the queer community

00:34:41.880 absolutely demonize and villainize individuals like this and keep them from getting public stages.

00:34:48.060 Very interestingly, after recording this episode,

00:34:51.360 I found out that Alok Bade Menon, in 2024, had a Netflix comedy special.

00:34:58.060 He is still being put in front of the public eye when he should be hard cancelled,

00:35:04.880 but there is just nothing you can do to get cancelled on the left.

00:35:07.880 That seems to be, unless it's being slightly right-wing in some way.

00:35:12.660 This is a menace to the entire real LGBT community. 1.00

00:35:16.620 A real trans person who just wants to live their life does not want activists out there 1.00

00:35:22.320 who aren't even trying to pass and sexualizing underage girls in their speeches. 0.99

00:35:28.840 That is a menace to a real trans person who just wants to live their life 1.00

00:35:32.660 because they're just born in the other body and they just want to transition and live that life.

00:35:35.920 Yeah, it's like how we feel about people who say that they're pronatalists

00:35:39.320 and then they talk about the great replacement theory.

00:35:42.000 And we're like, no, not my movement.

00:35:43.680 I hate those people more than people who aren't pronatalists hate those people

00:35:47.420 because they cause problems for our movement. 0.99

00:35:50.020 Gay people, gay men, 45% of whom who are voted for Trump in the last election cycle by one poll at least.

00:35:55.920 I haven't found a strong argument against this.

00:35:57.420 Obviously, they're not represented by this and they get victimized and called out

00:36:01.520 because they're part of the larger community that's allowing this.

00:36:04.240 Lesbian women who are the ones being primarily victimized, 1.00

00:36:06.980 you're not seeing this because you're not on the lesbian dating apps. 1.00

00:36:09.620 But lesbians reach out to each other on dating apps. 1.00

00:36:12.320 Women reach out to men on dating apps, so not much.

00:36:15.080 But these individuals, no social boundaries, have realized they can use this identity for cover,

00:36:18.680 are extremely aggressive in these communities.

00:36:22.860 And keep in mind, they're larger, they're more muscular.

00:36:25.000 One, I actually heard a lesbian woman and she would tell the story in two ways. 0.99

00:36:28.480 She's like a man photoshopped himself to look like a woman so that he could get me alone on a date.

00:36:34.180 And she said when people heard that, they freaked out.

00:36:36.440 And then I said a trans woman photoshopped herself to look like a thing so that she could get me alone. 1.00

00:36:41.420 And everyone was like, how could you even suggest that this is a problem?

00:36:46.120 And the fact that this social reality exists has allowed this group of,

00:36:52.520 keep in mind when you were in high school, like the creepiest, most sexually aggressive guy who you ever saw,

00:36:57.920 like who had no friends and otherwise everyone hated.

00:37:01.340 Now he can use this identity as a cover.

00:37:03.800 Of course those guys are going to do that.

00:37:05.720 Like when a lot of people are like, oh, a guy like that wouldn't pretend to be a trans woman just to further victimize.

00:37:12.460 And then you think for a second, oh yeah, that guy didn't care what anyone thought of him. 0.99

00:37:16.120 He was just a sex pest. 1.00

00:37:18.000 And these sex pests who have taken over the trans identity, like nobody suffers more from this. 1.00

00:37:24.560 Than gay men, lesbian women, and real trans people. 0.98

00:37:28.380 And I have a lot of sympathy for those individuals who are now being victimized because these individuals have realized sort of a social hack they could use to take over their movement.

00:37:37.780 It's scary.

00:37:38.260 And that's why I'm not afraid of our sons because I don't think that many men who transition do it because of some sort of social contagion.

00:37:46.480 I think it's because they realize that there's a social hack that they can use to their advantage.

00:37:51.060 The bad kind.

00:37:51.800 Now I do think a number transitioning for real, like they're actually just born with the wrong brain. 0.98

00:37:56.180 But with women, I think a lot of them are otherwise well-intentioned and got caught up in a social contagion. 1.00

00:38:02.380 But anyway, now this might be way too spicy.

00:38:04.900 And we still haven't done the video with the Agap or whatever guy.

00:38:08.060 We'll eventually post that.

00:38:09.100 Oh, we should.

00:38:10.060 No, yeah, I like him.

00:38:11.440 Kind of boring interview.

00:38:12.720 So it's one of the interviews I'm on the fence about.

00:38:14.540 Because he's too reasonable and people want crazy.

00:38:17.480 I just didn't think he had a lot of new ideas, to be honest.

00:38:20.420 I think his core thing was shock.

00:38:23.140 Shock within the communities that he's engaged with.

00:38:25.120 But the ideas I don't think are shocking to our audience.

00:38:27.040 So I guess we'll see.

00:38:28.420 A lot of them have, you know, heard these ideas before.

00:38:31.020 But anyway, I absolutely love you.

00:38:34.140 Oh, and by the way, I should note for people who again might be like, oh, this Alot guy,

00:38:37.480 you might have seen him randomly among your friend group, but he's not popular.

00:38:40.180 No, by Queer Magazine, he was rated one of the top 100 queer people of the year.

00:38:44.680 Like he is absolutely a major influencer in the movement.

00:38:47.640 And I think that the way the youth movement used to be, it just needs to learn to have

00:38:52.960 a little bit of criticality around sex pest men using this identity to exploit women. 0.98

00:39:00.460 Obviously, sex pests would do that. 1.00

00:39:02.220 Like why would anyone think differently? 0.89

00:39:04.100 They are always overly aggressive and cross boundaries and don't have any social sense

00:39:08.860 and don't care what other people think of them.

00:39:10.660 If you give them a memetic hack, of course, it's going to spread within that community.

00:39:14.120 And I do not think that they make up the majority of the trans community at all today.

00:39:18.080 But I will say that if you are a lesbian woman, that's the majority of interaction you're having 1.00

00:39:23.000 with the trans community because they're aggressive. 1.00

00:39:25.340 They are out there interacting with people.

00:39:27.360 They are not trying to just live their lives.

00:39:29.140 And so there needs to be a bit of, I think, an inquisition within the LGBT community and 1.00

00:39:33.760 the community wants.

00:39:34.980 I actually think that's like the number one thing that the LGBT community can do is find

00:39:38.860 the ill actors within their community, because I don't think it's good if you allow outside 1.00

00:39:43.980 groups to do that, which right now is what's being forced is they're pushing it.

00:39:47.780 But I've seen increasingly like very reasonable trans people.

00:39:50.540 There's this channel I haven't watched recently.

00:39:51.740 I might post on the screen here that is basically dedicated to doing this as a trans guy who's

00:39:55.980 dedicated to doing this, and I really appreciate his efforts.

00:39:58.920 To calling out people who seem to be in the movement for exploitative reasons?

00:40:02.660 Yeah.

00:40:03.560 Nice.

00:40:04.200 So there is a backlash forming.

00:40:05.560 People are pushing back.

00:40:06.460 Let's say, I would say that a lot of lesbians, maybe unfairly branded as TERFs, have been fighting 1.00

00:40:12.940 back for a while.

00:40:14.420 I don't know if this is necessarily new.

00:40:16.020 Oh, they have.

00:40:16.420 They've been getting beaten up in bars.

00:40:17.900 And then it's so sad because I've heard these things on like the lesbian subreddit where

00:40:22.380 one woman was like, this is when I realized that the community had turned against me.

00:40:25.440 Is when a couple trans women overheard another lesbian woman say that she didn't want to, 0.83

00:40:32.800 like she wasn't even talking to them, that she didn't want to date trans women. 0.83

00:40:35.640 And they beat her up. 0.65

00:40:37.080 And that this was being cheered as like a positive thing in the lesbian subreddit. 0.99

00:40:41.740 And then she realized, oh, everyone in this Reddit thread basically still is a sexually 0.91

00:40:46.960 aggressive cis man pretending to be a lesbian. 0.97

00:40:49.840 Because who else? 0.98

00:40:50.760 Even a real trans person wouldn't be cheering that, right? 1.00

00:40:53.500 The only people who would be cheering that are sexually aggressive cis men pretending 0.99

00:40:58.260 to be lesbians. 1.00

00:40:59.480 Or people who are just performatively woke in a way where no matter what, if someone meets

00:41:04.680 a certain classification, you have to be on their side.

00:41:08.700 You cannot say anything in criticism of them.

00:41:11.960 Yeah.

00:41:12.140 And for this reason, I think that the woke movement's greatest victim has been the real

00:41:16.080 LGBT community.

00:41:17.280 Yeah.

00:41:17.640 No kidding.

00:41:18.160 Like you said, they have been used the same way that hospitals have been used by Hamas.

00:41:24.280 You just put them up like a shield and then use them to grow.

00:41:28.660 It's terrifying.

00:41:31.760 Oh, wait.

00:41:32.540 But by the way, the Alok thing, just so people know how big he is, he walked for several fashion

00:41:38.100 brands at New York Fashion Week, including the opening ceremony and Studio 189 and Cromat.

00:41:46.380 Oh, and Harry's and Polaroid Eyewear.

00:41:50.080 Polaroid Eyewear.

00:41:51.880 And he's appeared in editorials in Vote Italy, Bust Magazine, Wussy Magazine, and Paper Magazine.

00:42:00.560 So I'm not talking about a fringe.

00:42:01.580 Anyway, love you to death, Simone, and I really am excited to see the LGBT community beginning

00:42:07.880 to clean itself up.

00:42:10.060 And recently I was asked by someone, and I think right now, given what the urban monoculture

00:42:14.660 is doing by promoting these sexually aggressive cis men as transgender people and then protecting 0.73

00:42:20.820 them, gay rights now is fundamentally a right-wing issue. 0.53

00:42:26.360 Because they're the only group that has a real sustainable plan for gay rights. 0.99

00:42:30.100 And they're the only group with a sizable mass that has a real sustainable plan for

00:42:33.680 gay rights.

00:42:34.480 And again, I have to point out, Trump was the first president ever elected in the United

00:42:38.880 States who, when he was elected, supported gay marriage.

00:42:42.820 Upon his election.

00:42:43.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:44.620 Obama didn't get elected with that stance, right?

00:42:47.360 Yeah.

00:42:47.660 I don't think he ever really, truly held it.

00:42:50.100 I think that he's actually much more conservative on gay stuff than people think.

00:42:53.480 And I think Trump is much more progressive on gay stuff than people think.

00:42:56.340 Because if he was a New York liberal for how many decades, of course he didn't care.

00:43:00.100 And this is reflected in Trump ensuring that in his 2024 election cycle, that marriage

00:43:07.560 in the RNC platform itself is not defined as between a man and a woman.

00:43:13.300 So to those Republicans who I know, you know, we get a few people in our comments who are

00:43:17.640 like, well, blah, blah, blah, you know, it's not real marriage.

00:43:20.720 And it's like, okay, even if I agree with you on that point, it doesn't affect my marriage

00:43:26.600 that they are getting married.

00:43:27.880 And even if I believe it's a sin, that doesn't mean that my marriage is without sin.

00:43:33.060 I drink, for example, that's a sin.

00:43:36.800 I play video games, that's a sin.

00:43:39.020 Are you living a marriage without sin?

00:43:41.340 But you now represent even the minority among Republican voters.

00:43:47.060 You know, you act like I am the extreme progressive among the Republican voters when my position

00:43:54.460 is actually normative among the Republican base.

00:43:58.160 Now, you are the extremists who are fighting for a position that could not even win if the

00:44:04.640 entire American electorate was just made up of Republicans.

00:44:07.940 All you are doing by getting this type of language into bills and putting it out there for the

00:44:16.160 public to hear is to convince the LGBT community of what the left wants them to believe, but

00:44:24.940 what is not true, which is that Republicans are out to get them.

00:44:29.520 Literally, you do more to hurt the party's chance of election and the chance of getting our

00:44:35.780 legislation passed than your average Democrat does.

00:44:39.940 Anyway, love you to death, Simone, and you are an amazing woman.

00:44:44.880 You're perfect.

00:44:46.000 I love you so much.

00:44:51.020 And there.

00:44:52.740 I've been looking forward to this all day.

00:44:55.580 Oh, my.

00:44:57.520 And keep...

00:44:58.680 Okay.

00:44:59.260 I got it.

00:45:01.340 You got it?

00:45:02.620 Yeah.

00:45:03.900 Good.

00:45:04.460 Good.

00:45:04.580 I got my beer.

00:45:07.660 Octavian, are you going to get the corn?

00:45:09.260 I got my corn.

00:45:11.300 You got your corn right here?

00:45:12.520 We go first.

00:45:15.380 Here you go, Tay-Tan. 0.94

00:45:17.040 Oh, thanks, buddy.

00:45:18.620 Do you like it when food comes on a train?

00:45:20.500 Yeah.

00:45:21.560 I love beer.

00:45:24.940 Get another corn on it.

00:45:27.900 Quick.

00:45:32.200 Look at the beer.

00:45:32.840 Mom, what?

00:45:33.540 I'm just going to show you.

00:45:36.160 You get that, okay?

00:45:38.180 Oh, yeah.

00:45:38.700 I can't eat this.

00:45:40.980 Aw.

00:45:42.340 Well, then, it's more.

00:45:44.360 Two ones.

00:45:45.640 And I have this.

00:45:47.420 And this is for you.

00:45:49.520 No.

00:45:50.460 You got it.

00:45:51.360 It's so tired.

00:45:53.020 Octavian, you guys have to eat it, okay?

00:45:54.880 Awesome.

00:45:55.480 You got to eat it.

00:45:56.800 It's not inside food.

00:45:57.080 Octavian, you also need to eat it, okay?

00:46:00.140 Oh, who's going to get the broccoli?

00:46:02.660 Aw.

00:46:03.740 Tay-Tan, Cersei doesn't want any more food like these.

00:46:08.460 Only pear.

00:46:10.560 It's okay.

00:46:11.620 Octavian, you take the food that you're going to eat, okay?

00:46:14.940 You don't want food?

00:46:17.500 Oh, um.

00:46:18.540 I want pear broccoli.

00:46:21.180 And carrots.

00:46:22.040 The protection is just here for me, okay?

00:46:27.100 I want my mother.

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