In this episode, I discuss a new framing for gender transition that makes me dramatically more pro-gender transition than I have ever been in the past, and why it makes me think that the modern trans movement is actually a symptom of a social technology that evolved to treat the increased nihilism and bubicidality caused by the urban monoculture.
00:00:00.000What if this mimetic structure, which encourages transition, instead of being something that is intrinsically toxic, is actually a social technology that evolved to treat the increased nihilism and bubicidality caused by the urban monoculture?
00:00:22.400So how could it do this? When you transition, you are basically abandoning an identity, your current identity, and then building a new one.
00:00:33.660You're literally killing it, actually. For example, deadnaming people is deadnaming them. That person is dead to them.
00:00:39.820What is most disturbing is that after a year on blockers, a significant increase was found in the first item, quote, I deliberately try to hurt or kill self, end quote.
00:00:50.440This is in the US survey questionnaire. So it was increasing. Puberty blockers increased, even by Travis Stock's own, as pro-trans as you can think it, they just didn't want to publish this, increases bubicidality.
00:01:04.680Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be spitting some information and new theories with you that I have had recently today.
00:01:12.220Today, we are going to go back into the trans rabbit hole. We are going to be discussing a new framing I heard for gender transition that makes me dramatically more pro-gender transition than I ever have been historically.
00:01:28.840And the way that gender transition has played out in mainstream society, which is really interesting, which I think is different than just talking about trans issues.
00:01:36.940As I said before in the show, I think that there's the historic trans movement, and now there's the new trans movement, which contains some elements that are more like a religion than like a traditional gender ideology movement.
00:01:50.720Now, the second thing I wanted to talk about, which I find really interesting, is a recent Emil Kierkegaard, I know, thought criminal piece, that was talking about something that everyone basically knows, but I thought he did a pretty good job of summarizing it and laying out the stats again,
00:02:06.820which is that trans people are much more likely to be high IQ than other individuals.
00:02:14.800And this isn't like a small thing. In fact, the difference between trans people and the general population is higher than the difference between Ashkenazi Jews and the general population.
00:02:27.660About a standard deviation higher IQ than the general population.
00:02:30.880And that doesn't surprise me, because you're looking at a very small, very unique, and very differentiated population, and Ashkenazi Jews are not that different from the general population.
00:02:53.340And they checked. It's not explained by anything else. It's not that they're disproportionately birthed male or female. It's not that they're age. It's not that they're...
00:03:00.060They don't have a different... Do they have a different... I feel like there's pretty much every background. Culturally, religiously, ethically.
00:03:06.520No, but they controlled for that in this study.
00:03:09.740That doesn't matter to this answer. It's just something disproportionately... Now, this is actually really interesting if what we are seeing in the modern trans movement is a disorder.
00:03:19.920So, one of the things I say about transness is it would make sense if human brains are gender differentiated to some extent, like that seems obvious, that sometimes this gender differentiation would get messed up in like a systemic way, like intersex people exist, stuff like that. Like, why wouldn't that happen in the brain?
00:03:37.680But if that was what was causing the modern trans movement, usually when somebody has a major deformity, basically, we'll say some sort of like psychiatric condition or deformity like this, they are in a lower IQ group, which just makes sense.
00:03:51.400When you have one weird mutation in the way somebody's developing, you're likely to have other weird mutations. You're likely to just have a higher genetic load.
00:03:59.900Right. And the trans status is not having that is really interesting. In fact, there's only two other conditions that fall into that. One is autism.
00:04:12.360No, schizophrenia is not associated with higher IQ. The other is anorexia.
00:04:16.160No! All right. I've got a two for here.
00:04:19.720This gets really interesting. And there's a high correlation with transness and autism. So, I suspect that this is what's actually booing the IQ.
00:04:28.460Yeah. Yeah. So, I think it's just that they're drawing disproportionately from the autistic community. And I'll explain. And I think it's part of the memetic structure only works in higher IQ people. And I'll explain what I mean by this in just a second.
00:04:40.900Oh, yeah. That anorexia is interesting and that the studies that have looked at it, it's pretty different from a lot of other disorders. It appears a lot more like a multiple personality disorder in that it appears to be culturally transmitted to an extent.
00:04:54.460A great example of this is it was pretty unheard of in Japan until the, like, 1970s when they really began to consume Western media.
00:05:04.000And so, one thing could be is that when something is culturally transmitted, it is more likely to appeal to high IQ populations. But also think about it this way. If you look at autistic people, they develop special interests slash obsessions.
00:05:20.280And some, there was actually a study done on detransitioners, where a lot of them said that transitioning was their special interest. They didn't realize it at the time, but it was one of their sort of autistic special interests.
00:05:31.580And I think you're missing also a major filtering thing here too, which is the level of conscientiousness, which correlates with IQ, if memory serves, that goes into being both anorexic and a transitioner.
00:05:43.400And some of these other weird things is that the amount of self-control you need to have to be successfully anorexic and to successfully transition is...
00:05:53.400But that's a good point. It's a differentiator that requires higher self-control instead of lower self-control, which most psychological illnesses you're going to have.
00:06:02.320But I'm going to get to a spicy take here. So, as you remember, when I was younger, I would do a lot of studying how brainwashing works and building. I'd look at different sequences of words and I would mast A-B test them in online environments to find the perfect way to get women to sleep with me.
00:06:24.000That's a strong interest to me. I was very interested in how cults brainwash people, how they get them to transform their identity, and how I could utilize those techniques.
00:06:36.340And I will admit, I was not a great person at the time to get my immediate needs met.
00:06:40.180I just then reached a point where I saturated those needs and then was able to think clearly and realized that I never should have wanted those needs in the first place, and that a life built in pursuit of sexual conquest is not a life that is ever going to be fulfilling to anyone.
00:06:55.540I don't believe any of these people who pretend that they're fulfilled by this art. I think they're deeply sad people.
00:06:59.880But one of the techniques that I learned, and this isn't brainwashing, it's more like a logical structure, like a memetic structure, which was very effective at getting people to sleep with me.
00:07:11.220But anyway, these techniques that I was using, they were often like a memetic structure, and they did not work very well on people of medium to low IQ.
00:07:22.840I really struggled with it. And people can be like, that's surprising. You think that they would be like...
00:07:27.740The gullible, dumb people who would...
00:07:31.720But that's not true. Logical structures, if what you're doing is like implanting a memetic machine...
00:07:36.640Logical structures only work on logical people, and fewer people are logical than one might like to conclude.
00:07:41.720Yeah, they basically break it down when you put it in their head.
00:07:44.680So I'll give you an example of one of these structures so people can understand broadly how like a memetic machine works.
00:07:51.600So this is a very simple one that I use to get someone to sleep with me, but somebody can understand you might have a more complex self-replicating structure,
00:07:58.220which is I think what part of the modern trans movement is.
00:08:01.160But just for the sleep with me structure.
00:13:13.420So in these groups, while they have been adopted as a type of trans by the current trans community,
00:13:18.960they don't actually function like trans people.
00:13:22.340They're more like a recognition of gay people as a separate gender.
00:13:27.300So if I was going to word this differently, these would be like if you were recognized as Fafai, for example.
00:13:33.320As a young man, you are allowed to take part in female gender norms and sleep with straight men or otherwise categorized by society as heterosexual men,
00:13:45.320but would likely in real life, like in our society, not in real life, in Western culture be categorized as gay pitchers.
00:13:51.320Now, it's also important to understand that gay pitchers historically were considered straight.
00:13:56.400If you look at like ancient Greece, if you look at even in medieval Europe,
00:14:00.840men who were the tops in gay relationships were often considered straight or straight adjacent.
00:14:06.920The thing you really weren't supposed to be is the bottom.
00:15:07.860I was thinking of the 2024 study, Development of Gender Non-Contentedness During Adolescence and Early Adulthood.
00:15:14.70090% of, when you're talking about 11-year-olds, who identify with a different gender at that age, identify with their birth gender by the time that they are 23.
00:15:24.120And a lot of them are disproportionately within this group.
00:15:54.640So I'm going to put another graph on the screen here, and you don't need to see it to know, but the female-to-male boobicide rate is high, but not particularly higher than the bisexual girl boobicide rate, right?
00:16:08.340What if what we're seeing here is people who are gender confused are much more likely to be pulled in to these ideas, right?
00:16:20.980And then we're going to be like, who gets gender confused?
00:16:45.180But yeah, no, you have a very big risk of contagion when people hear about boobicidality.
00:16:49.920They're much more likely to think about boobicidality, which is why in all other parts of psychology, there would be like, obviously, you should never tell a patient, if you have X condition, you're much more likely to be boobicidal.
00:17:01.640Because it makes them much more likely to be boobicidal.
00:17:04.580And then we can say, oh, come on, that can't have anything to do with what's going on here.
00:17:10.820Except there are two groups that are uniquely susceptible to suggestibility when it comes to boobicidality.
00:17:20.260They are teenagers and autists, which are also groups that are hugely overrepresented within the trans movement.
00:17:28.820To get an idea, 72% of autistic adults scored above the psychiatric cutoff for boobicide risk compared to 33% of the general population.
00:17:38.300So you basically have this boast cause that you can implant in somebody's rage, which is boobicidal ideation, and then a solution as one memetic package, which is very good at spreading in our society.
00:17:54.120But that historically, you would never tell people.
00:17:58.940This reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman, Rob Reiner, is trying to sacrifice Cartman to prove to everyone how serious his movement is.
00:18:07.900And I feel like with many of the young people, if you're a trained psychologist, you need to know that you are, through bringing these kids into a session and being like, oh, if you don't do this, you're going to commit boobicides, that you're going to dramatically increase the number of young people in this cohort boobiciding.
00:18:23.900And yet they don't seem to care, even when there is a lot of data showing that it may not even be higher within this cohort.
00:18:31.620And so we're going to get to that in a second.
00:18:33.060But it almost certainly is higher now.
00:18:34.700Just everything we understand about how boobicide works would say, if these people are going to an authority figure, and this authority figure is telling you, this is the one solution to not boobicide, then it's going to become the one solution to not boobicide, especially if you're autistic.
00:20:25.260And they might be making the problem worse.
00:20:28.720So if you look at some of these other studies that I've been giving you, they'll have like small cohorts, like 13 people or something that's actually in the boobicide group.
00:20:36.740This is what I call it, the PACE study.
00:20:37.980But there's some longer, and another thing that the trans community does, a lot of trans individuals might not know that they do this, is when they talk about transitioning, lowering the risk of boobicidality, they're often using different studies.
00:20:50.520So to establish the risk, they'll use a study that was specifically pulling from like a concerned population.
00:20:59.000That's why it was really high in the straight population was in that study as well.
00:21:02.100And then when establishing the lowered rates, they'll then pull from a separate study that was pulling individuals in a totally different way.
00:21:10.020When you look at longitudinal studies, you end up with studies like this one called the Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Study.
00:21:20.520So to quote here, the overall mortality for sex reassignment persons was higher during follow-up than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from boobicide.
00:21:31.100Boobicide, sex reassignment persons also had an increased risk in boobicide attempts and psychiatric inpatient care.
00:21:39.320So it showed that they had a 19x higher rate than the control group.
00:21:43.180So it made them, when you're looking longitudinally, it basically makes everything astronomically worse.
00:21:50.880Okay, so let's look at a different study here.
00:21:52.960The National Center for Transgender Equality Preventing Transgender Boobicide is the name of this study.
00:21:59.460So in this study, it was looking at the Travistock Board of Directors and unpublished reports.
00:22:07.780So people know the whole Travistock thing.
00:22:10.140They were this very pro-trans organization.
00:22:12.940And so there was a reason they didn't publish this report, but they had it when people were going through their files after they were shut down for abuse.
00:22:19.540And it says, quote, only one change was positive.
00:22:23.840According to their parents, the young people experienced, this is for people who underwent puberty blockers.
00:22:30.220According to their parents, the young people experienced less internalizing behavioral problems as registered by the child behavioral checklist.
00:22:37.720That was a less internalizing behavioral problems.
00:22:41.660Natal girls showed a significant increase in behavioral and emotional problems, according to their parents, also from the child behavioral checklist.
00:23:03.740A decrease in physical well-being of their child.
00:23:06.120What is most disturbing is that after a year on blockers, a significant increase was found in the first item, quote, I deliberately try to hurt or kill self, end quote.
00:23:17.280This is in the used survey questionnaire.
00:23:19.200So it was increasing, puberty blockers increase, even by Travistock's own, as pro-trans as you can think it, they just didn't want to publish this, increases bubicidality.
00:23:28.420Do you think that's because in these cases, people were transitioning and then discovering that it didn't miraculously cure their depression, anxiety, or body dysmorphia?
00:23:39.040Yeah, they talk about this a lot in the community.
00:23:41.120You first get this feeling of euphoria when you're on this because you feel like things are changing, everything's getting fixed.
00:23:46.800And then following the euphoria, you typically get a really high increased risk of bubicidality because you begin to doubt, but now you've also othered yourselves and made a lot of cognitive dissonance.
00:24:01.580So there was a large U.S. survey in 2009 by the National Center for Transgender Equality and the National Gay and Lesbian Tax Force.
00:24:10.240The results were published in the National Transgender Discrimination Survey report on health and health care, and it showed those who have medically transitioned, 45%, and surgically transitioned, 43%, have higher rates of attempted bubicide than those who have not, 34% and 39%, respectively.
00:24:29.380Across the board, we're seeing that this doesn't actually fix.
00:24:31.940It's more like a temporary fix for bubicidal ideation that makes the problem worse over time.
00:24:41.020Here's what I might argue, going back to the earlier point that transitioning can feel like a rebirth following a death, right?
00:24:49.880That maybe, you and I have talked about before, the impact of completely changing your context.
00:24:55.680How if you have an addiction or some other emotional problem, if you move to Japan to quit smoking or you completely change the cast of characters around you, your costume and your set, yes, you can become a different character.
00:25:07.820And yes, you can break out of a lot of really harmful or nonproductive mental loops.
00:25:13.680And I think maybe the problem here is transition can absolutely facilitate that by allowing you to break down and then create a new identity.
00:25:21.280The problem is a lot of these kids, especially, and I think maybe we're looking at the impact of this happening with youth gender transition versus adult transition, is these kids are still stuck with their parents.
00:25:55.280For a short term, feeling like a different person and reestablishing the narratives with which you're engaging with reality, I think it is probably very effective.
00:26:02.920The problem is the new narratives that they're building, if you look at our levels of thought, are aesthetic moral systems based around gender identity, which, i.e., when they're choosing an action, what to wear, what to do, et cetera.
00:26:16.880The question that they're thinking is, does this align with ex-gender expression?
00:26:22.300And the gender expression may be nuanced, but they confuse gender identity with morality, right?
00:26:30.320Instead of, and I think that this is the problem.
00:26:32.640I think most people with any sort of sophisticated moral framework, unfortunately, and this is the thing, like sophisticated moral frameworks do not correlate really strongly with high IQ.
00:26:42.960You need to be above a certain IQ to have one.
00:26:45.340But if you look at something like my Stanford reunion, remember I mentioned that, like, a lot of people there were just living lives to get the money counter as high as possible?
00:26:53.200Status optimizers or achievement optimizers.
00:27:09.140But that doesn't mean that they are philosophically sophisticated, that they have engaged with the why do I exist?
00:27:15.920It's just, okay, I'm going to optimize money.
00:27:18.840So I'm not saying that, so being extra smart does not protect you, but it can make you susceptible if you are not intently engaging with your own philosophy on these sort of self-replicating moral frameworks.
00:27:32.420The problem that you're going to deal with is most sophisticated moral frameworks would see gender identity as just not particularly important because most sophisticated moral frameworks do not find human emotion, like, optimizing for self-comfort or positive emotional states in oneself as a thing of moral value.
00:27:52.300Or as aesthetic presentation is something of great moral value.
00:28:34.460I'm starting again within this lifetime.
00:28:37.340The other really interesting thing to consider here is that trans men, so women who transition, they often look about 10 to 20 years younger when they transition.
00:28:48.200So it's also like they're being reborn at a younger age.
00:29:06.720I've been listening to a lot of detransition videos recently.
00:29:09.100Another really interesting phenomenon in detransitioner is they talk about how when they detransition, it was like the transition just encapsulated almost the way like a foreign body in your body can get encapsulated by a little piece of skin, like a piece of glass or something like that.
00:29:26.200Like inside your, not skin, but like tissue that's meant to protect your body from it.
00:29:33.340They encapsulated all of this negative stuff about their previous identity that then explodes when they detransition again and they need to deal with it.
00:29:42.500Like nothing was ever really dealt with.
00:29:44.940It was just encapsulated and set aside.
00:29:57.260And so people can say, why do we look at all this?
00:29:59.120I think at least Simone would have definitely transitioned.
00:30:02.360So I've got to look at my daughter's likely transitioning when I need to think of how do I build a system where, and I'm not saying I'm against them transitioning.
00:30:11.960How do you think our daughters and not our sons would transition or feel gender dysmorphia in some way?
00:30:16.320I think that women and men transitioning now, if you look at the deleterious type of transitioning, they're doing it for different reasons and it plays to different things.
00:30:25.580And yeah, I guess the fact that I was an anorexic, autistic adolescent probably doesn't work well in terms of genetic tendencies.
00:30:33.720Plus, I think our sons are so hyper-masculine already that it would be weird.
00:37:18.000And these sex pests who have taken over the trans identity, like nobody suffers more from this.
00:37:24.560Than gay men, lesbian women, and real trans people.
00:37:28.380And I have a lot of sympathy for those individuals who are now being victimized because these individuals have realized sort of a social hack they could use to take over their movement.
00:37:38.260And that's why I'm not afraid of our sons because I don't think that many men who transition do it because of some sort of social contagion.
00:37:46.480I think it's because they realize that there's a social hack that they can use to their advantage.