Based Camp - Jews Will Replace You ... But Why？

00:00:00.000 Hello, and I'm excited to be here with you today.

00:00:02.740 Today, we are going to be talking about the Jews replacing everyone else. 1.00

00:00:08.840 And by this, what I mean is Jewish populations seem to be the only population that is persistently

00:00:14.540 resistant to prosperity-induced demographic collapse, e.g. everywhere else in the world

00:00:20.500 you go.

00:00:21.160 When you begin to get wealth, fertility rates fall, and these populations end up disappearing.

00:00:25.720 And a lot of people, you know, they'll look at groups like the Amish, and they'll be

00:00:30.360 like, oh, look at this Amish group.

00:00:32.320 Like, they are super high fertility, so certainly they'll inherit the future.

00:00:36.820 And I'm like, not if there is a militarized group nearby them that wants their land.

00:00:42.860 I mean, even my family, like, and I think that a lot of people forget this, is so much of

00:00:47.760 the lack of violence we have within Western society today is not downstream of man being

00:00:53.340 more evolved.

00:00:54.100 It's the Pax de Romana of the urban monoculture.

00:00:57.060 And as the systems and governments begin to collapse, like, a government made up of all 1.00

00:01:01.340 Amish wouldn't be able to police itself even. 1.00

00:01:03.360 This basically happened with the Quakers in Pennsylvania, where you would get, like, pirate 0.99

00:01:06.600 raids.

00:01:07.300 And they'd meet, and they'd be like, we should probably do something about this.

00:01:11.480 And then the Quakers were like, no, no, no. 0.89

00:01:13.200 We can't risk violence against the people pillaging and graping. 1.00

00:01:17.160 And we know this has happened to Mennonite groups.

00:01:19.880 First, they were tempted over to Canada from largely Russia.

00:01:24.840 Canada saying, oh, we'll grant you religious freedom. 0.59

00:01:27.020 You can educate your kids however you want.

00:01:28.440 And then around the 1920s, they were like, okay, you need to go to Canadian schools now.

00:01:32.540 So then a lot of them went to northern Mexico, which in turn was like, come here.

00:01:37.360 We'll give you protections and freedoms.

00:01:38.680 And then suddenly all these gangs started attacking them.

00:01:43.200 And then so a bunch of them have gone to other countries in Central and South America.

00:01:48.100 And some have stayed.

00:01:48.960 But, like, yeah, they're not really able to build a strong base.

00:01:53.240 And they're not really able to protect themselves.

00:01:55.120 And therefore, they're kind of stuck escaping from unstable places.

00:01:59.340 But it's not just that.

00:02:01.000 It's also, you know, people, you know, a lot of right-wingers, they're like, oh, my God, aren't you so afraid of, like, Muslim birth rates, for example.

00:02:10.080 And it's like Muslim birth rates are only high in regions that are incredibly poor.

00:02:14.700 Actually, at higher rates of wealth, Muslim fertility drops faster than Christian fertility. 0.86

00:02:19.700 And so really what you're seeing is just poverty and people in poverty, if that is what is motivating their fertility rate, they don't have the ability for economic or power projection, geopolitically speaking.

00:02:32.620 And so they don't particularly in terms of, like, the future of humanity.

00:02:36.040 They're not major players.

00:02:37.900 This is the same with any region that has high fertility because of low income, like Africa, for example.

00:02:45.300 Africa's fertility seems to be mostly high just because of low income.

00:02:48.920 But if that's how they're doing it, then that's not relevant for future power projection in terms of who matters in the future.

00:02:56.560 And this matters, like, the Jews will replace everyone. 1.00

00:03:00.240 We'll get to why this is the case in a second.

00:03:02.480 It matters more than I think a lot of people think, even in terms of short-term geopolitics.

00:03:08.700 So a friend of mine from Europe was asking me because he knows I support Donald Trump.

00:03:13.480 And he goes, you know, don't you care that he's breaking these strong alliances the United States has with European powers?

00:03:22.300 And I'm like, not particularly because you guys have super, like, well, the new fertility stats for Germany just came in.

00:03:29.440 And they're at 1.38.

00:03:31.180 Italy is at, like, 1.18 now.

00:03:33.740 Like, these countries, their social security systems are going to crack within our lifetimes.

00:03:39.300 And when those crack, their welfare state collapses.

00:03:42.400 Their other systems start to crack.

00:03:44.480 And in addition to that, they're not even, they've passed these dictatorial laws that prevent their data from being used in AI training data sets.

00:03:52.380 So they're not even really relevant in terms of AI influence.

00:03:55.780 Europe right now is like a big ball is being rolled off of a ship and a bunch of people are chained to it.

00:04:03.340 And I am cutting the chain.

00:04:05.360 And the guy next to me is like, hey, why are you cutting that chain, buddy?

00:04:08.100 It's like, I don't want to, you know, when I said this, he's like, well, then geopolitically, who should the U.S. be investing in, you know, in terms of future world power players?

00:04:18.580 And I'm like, obviously, Israel.

00:04:20.820 Obviously.

00:04:22.120 And so because, one, high fertility rates, but also high technology.

00:04:26.080 And also a level of sort of agenticness was in the world stage that I don't think any other country shows, which, except for the United States, of course, which is really much more than something like China.

00:04:39.880 Like people are like, oh, you know, you should focus on China.

00:04:43.060 And it's like, one, China was in a sort of, as the world becomes more polar, one, it's got the problem with its whole economic house of cards thing around real estate.

00:04:53.540 It's got a problem with its demographic situation.

00:04:56.480 It doesn't really have a solution for its water situation.

00:04:59.580 You can look at our what happens to the future of East Asia, but it's got a lot of problems coming up.

00:05:03.840 But even if those problems don't end up sort of cracking its back, as Europe fades as a relevant world power, it leaves the world in more of a unipolar power structure between the United States and China,

00:05:17.380 China, which unfortunately makes a key alliance with China much harder when you're the only two major powers in the room.

00:05:24.380 That just doesn't happen.

00:05:25.880 So, again, that means better to invest, as the Trump administration is, in Israel in terms of power plays.

00:05:33.420 Now, in terms of actually how much better is their fertility rates, just so we can get an idea here.

00:05:39.080 Yeah.

00:05:39.260 Because a lot of people are like, oh, it's only the Hasidic people who are keeping this up. 1.00

00:05:43.020 It's only in Israel that this is the case.

00:05:45.380 These things are not true.

00:05:47.000 You know, while the U.S. has a TFR, you know, child per woman up around 1.6.

00:05:51.440 And in Germany, it's like 1.38 now.

00:05:53.960 And in Italy, it's like 1.18.

00:05:56.280 And you think of the U.K., it's like 1.4 or something.

00:05:59.600 For U.S. Jews, it's 1.9.

00:06:02.280 And this was by Pew to 2.

00:06:04.000 So, they're almost at replacement, even outside of Israel.

00:06:08.500 A U.S. non-Orthodox Jews, okay, how bad is that? 1.00

00:06:12.120 Because you're like, okay, they're non-Orthodox. 1.00

00:06:13.900 The Orthodox Jews in the U.S. are just keeping the number high. 1.00

00:06:16.100 It's 1.4 to 1.7.

00:06:17.940 So, still above the average.

00:06:19.800 U.S., and keep in mind, that's including Reformed Jews as well, who are basically, I mean, I consider them basically secular.

00:06:26.500 We wouldn't count as Jews, I guess, internally.

00:06:27.720 What?

00:06:28.640 We wouldn't count as Jews.

00:06:30.200 Yeah.

00:06:30.460 Basically.

00:06:30.800 U.S. ultra-Orthodox Haraiti Jews, 6.6 fertility rates.

00:06:36.280 Israeli Jews overall have a fertility rate of around 3, which is insane for a wealthy, technologically advanced country. 0.97

00:06:44.860 Israeli secular Jews have a fertility rate of 2.1 to 2.2.

00:06:50.080 So, at repopulation rate, which is wild for a secular population.

00:06:54.440 Israeli traditional Jews have a fertility rate of around 3.

00:06:57.740 Israeli religious Dalti Jews have a fertility rate of 4.3.

00:07:03.780 Israeli ultra-Orthodox Jews have a fertility rate of 6.9, only slightly higher than their U.S. brothers.

00:07:09.100 And Israeli Arabs and Muslims have a fertility rate of only 2.2 to 3.

00:07:12.840 So, there have been many proposed reasons why Jews have a high fertility rate, and I'm going to throw another in the ring, which is that they are better at not caring as much for their kids as other cultures. 1.00

00:07:28.580 And this is going to really surprise people, but I have found a number of sources of evidence of this recently.

00:07:33.640 And I think that this is actually a very important cultural trait to adapt if you are going to survive the fertility crucible.

00:07:40.220 Would you mind reading that post?

00:07:42.140 Yeah, I have it right here.

00:07:43.740 So, big thanks to Diana Fleischman, who sent this to me, knowing that we would find it really interesting.

00:07:49.280 This is just like a one-off post, like not a full-out Substack essay.

00:07:52.680 This person's name was written in Jewish characters.

00:07:55.260 Yeah, but he's a Substack author called Moskiel Bina, who has a Substack called Non-Zionism, and it covers Israel, Britain, and broader themes around politics, Jewish identity, and ideological critique.

00:08:07.980 So, he actually is really interested in this kind of stuff, and, you know, that kind of puts this into context.

00:08:14.420 But he wrote in a sort of one-off Substack post.

00:08:19.340 Sorry.

00:08:19.820 The nine-year-old brought—oh, and he's a parent of quite a few kids, and he's in Israel, I think, so, for context.

00:08:28.460 He wrote,

00:08:28.860 The nine-year-old brought a friend around the other day.

00:08:31.580 This is one from a good family.

00:08:33.340 Yes, a racial dog whistle, but not exclusively such.

00:08:36.720 Said he was hungry.

00:08:37.780 Wife says he can have some old spaghetti we have in the fridge.

00:08:40.400 Kid proceeds to eat the spaghetti with his hands.

00:08:43.360 He is aware of the fork provided, but he uses it to scoop the spaghetti from the bowl into his hands?

00:08:48.680 Most oddly, somehow, there is now spaghetti all over the floor.

00:08:53.120 It's not even just under his chair, but maybe a 50-centimeter radius.

00:08:57.240 Kid just gets up, apparently oblivious to what has happened.

00:09:00.360 People from low-fertility societies sometimes wonder how Israelis managed to raise so many children while having jobs and stuff.

00:09:06.780 In particular, it is extremely rare for an Israeli mother to be a stay-at-home.

00:09:10.580 The typical answers are either they rely on extended family, or that Israel has pro-natalist social norms and institutions.

00:09:18.800 That's true, but a big part of the answer is simply that they don't.

00:09:23.680 Most children go to an institution from about three months old where they blare trance music at them to put them in a stunned silence,

00:09:30.840 or, failing that, just drown them out.

00:09:33.260 Children arrive with poop in their nappy.

00:09:35.400 Some of these places are better, but some are actually worse, with kids being taped to the wall or overstressed staff attacking them.

00:09:42.720 The education system continues like that.

00:09:45.200 Constant chaos.

00:09:46.160 Acceptance of absolute rock-bottom discipline standards.

00:09:48.960 Eight-year-old children organizing mob swarm attacks at break or trashing the classroom is considered regrettable, but normal,

00:09:57.420 rather than indicative of some kind of crisis, etc., etc.

00:10:01.160 Now, it's important to say that this isn't ultimately as bad as it sounds.

00:10:05.780 Most traits are majority genetic, and even if the nurture part isn't mostly a result of technical nurture by adults,

00:10:13.120 but all sorts of environmental effects, people go to the army, which sorts them out a bit.

00:10:18.000 Or, they sort themselves out because eventually you have to get a job.

00:10:22.440 However, some things are a result of nurture.

00:10:25.280 And the truth is that in a high-pressure, high-fertility society, you just have to learn to do without them. 0.95

00:10:31.720 And each generation gets worse as ambient social standards progressively fall away.

00:10:37.240 Assuming this whole thing doesn't unravel over the next few decades,

00:10:40.340 it will be grimly interesting to see just how far the process will go.

00:10:45.000 So, I'm just going to add, because there were comments on this that he followed up on.

00:10:49.580 On daycare and his own family, he writes,

00:10:52.260 quote,

00:10:52.460 We personally don't use it, but it involves a lot of sacrifice and compromise on our other values.

00:10:57.980 End quote.

00:10:58.480 So, I think this is why he's casting shade on a kid who's throwing spaghetti on the ground.

00:11:03.480 He also writes, in response to someone else's speculation,

00:11:07.100 Quote,

00:11:08.520 Faithful replication of elevated social norms requires a high level of parental investment, and there's no time for it.

00:11:15.120 No doubt there are many other factors, too.

00:11:17.080 Zionist ideology always favored casualness and informality. 0.97

00:11:21.060 And that's important to your point, Malcolm.

00:11:22.840 I'm going to note, the person is saying something here that I think that a lot of people get wrong about parenting, and extremely wrong.

00:11:30.620 The replication of social norms requires a high amount of parental investment.

00:11:36.040 It's factually, and I mean very factually wrong.

00:11:40.060 I picked up on my family norms, even though my parents were basically never around,

00:11:45.600 and I was almost entirely raised by nannies or staff.

00:11:48.580 I, in some cases, don't even remember their names, even though they were my primary care providers for years of my life.

00:11:56.760 And I never thought, oh, I'm queuing to their social norms.

00:12:01.880 And so, I think that, yes, there's danger in stuff like public school and things like that.

00:12:06.400 But it's not just Jews who are able to replicate social norms intergenerationally with high fidelity without a high degree of parental investment.

00:12:15.620 And this parenting style that he's talking about here, I decided to go and read some Jewish parenting guides.

00:12:23.700 Oh, interesting.

00:12:24.740 In a Jewish-like way, I mean, it is downstream of direct advice that is being given by Jewish figures in terms of how you parent. 0.68

00:12:34.520 Okay, so Moskielbina's experience here is fairly representative per year for you.

00:12:38.660 In this one I went to that was rules for being a good Jewish parent, and number seven was take risks. 0.78

00:12:45.740 Lecha, Lecha, Genesis 12, 1.

00:12:47.980 Go forth, God told Abraham when it was time for him to leave his father's land and venture out into the unknown.

00:12:53.600 This phrase, which literally means go to yourself, teaches us that the capabilities to go are precisely within ourselves.

00:13:01.780 In order for our children to learn confidence in their abilities to triumph over life's challenges, we must allow them to venture out into the world and work things out on their own.

00:13:11.140 In the process, we must be mindful to praise and encourage their efforts and talents.

00:13:16.780 Man was created to toil, Job 5-7.

00:13:20.220 Toil, not produce.

00:13:21.740 As Rabbi Tafron says, you are not required to complete the task, yet you are not free to withdraw from it.

00:13:28.900 Ethics of Our Fathers 2-2-1.

00:13:31.000 When we encourage effort, we foster what Stanford University psychologist Carol Deckers refers to as gross mindset, which results in more patience and willingness to take risks and experiment with different tasks.

00:13:43.900 When our children are being rambunctious, we wish them to be angels.

00:13:47.480 Yet angels are standing, stagnant beings.

00:13:51.540 Umidin, who don't grow or move. 1.00

00:13:54.160 Zechariah 3-7.

00:13:55.140 Humans, aka our rambunctious active kids, are holicum movers.

00:14:03.320 Unlike angels, they climb and can reach higher.

00:14:06.420 They can fall and get up again.

00:14:08.420 Let them move.

00:14:09.360 Let them swim.

00:14:10.360 Let them grow.

00:14:11.420 And so this is like active, like this is how you be.

00:14:13.620 This isn't like this guy being like, hey, we're cutting corners.

00:14:16.360 It's don't expect your kids to be like angels.

00:14:18.640 And I'll note, this isn't true as in every culture.

00:14:21.840 In some of the evangelical cultures that I am more familiar with, the idea of kids acting like angels is actually very strict.

00:14:30.480 Like kids must obey all the rules at all the time.

00:14:35.060 And that is, this is not my own cultural background, which is the backwoods, greater Appalachian cultural background, like hillbilly, redneck type.

00:14:41.920 But this is a cultural background that was nearby where I lived in Texas, and you would see this pretty frequently.

00:14:48.680 I'd also note that the hillbilly, redneck cultural background seems to be also like the Jews, particularly resistant to fertility collabs. 0.93

00:14:55.960 Also, the spaghetti thing so resonated with me because, I mean, you see me, you witness me.

00:15:03.680 I give forks to our children when we serve them spaghetti.

00:15:06.940 I show them how to spin the noodles.

00:15:09.200 I make sure that they repeat it to show that they know what I'm talking about and they can do it.

00:15:13.240 And then I turn my back for 30 seconds and then I turn back around.

00:15:16.900 And it's worse than with this Israeli kid. 1.00

00:15:19.020 And, like, not only does the child have a fistful of spaghetti that they're eating out of their hand and there's spaghetti all over the floor, but they still have the fork in the other hand and they're using it to stab holes into the table.

00:15:30.760 Always.

00:15:31.600 I have seen this.

00:15:32.360 I have seen this.

00:15:33.600 And, of course, it makes the world go, going, you know.

00:15:38.540 Yeah, I mean, like, wow, that's relatable.

00:15:40.900 No, but my point here is that if you are going to survive a fertility collapse, you, and you're not Jewish, Jews seem to have a path through this, you're going to need to adapt your culture in some specific ways. 0.97

00:15:55.640 And learning from cultures that do seem to be able to get through this without sacrificing engagement with technology is really important.

00:16:02.680 And one of the most important traits is to either learn how to make high control of children work with higher fertility rates or adopt to be lower oversight.

00:16:16.440 Brianna Fleischman, she filmed an episode with us that I've actually never ended up airing that one.

00:16:20.460 I just didn't think it would do well in the algorithm.

00:16:21.980 We can send it to the Patreon or whatever.

00:16:23.920 Yeah, run it on Patreon.

00:16:25.240 I want to see it.

00:16:26.140 Low effort parent.

00:16:27.420 Because she was like, here are you guys so low effort.

00:16:29.480 Like, she's seen us as parents, and she's like, you guys just do not, like, air that much.

00:16:35.160 And we, like, I'm very much like, I watch my kid constantly, and I make sure that I'm out there with them, but they're mostly doing their own thing and playing together and playing in ways that, I mean, I remember we were punishing one kid, and we told him to stop, you know, running away and going to this other playground, right?

00:16:54.440 And so, you know, I tasked his brother, I go, go get him, his older brother.

00:16:59.580 And so his older brother just goes and drags him back, screaming and everything like that, and sits him in a chair, and then is like, hey, Toasty, you can't go back out there.

00:17:07.580 And Torsten hops up to try to run again, and Octavian slaps him and sits him back down in the chair.

00:17:14.180 And the other people, this is at a 4th of July party, gasped at the event, like, he'd just done something horrible.

00:17:20.480 And I was like, what?

00:17:21.400 Toasty broke the rule. 0.96

00:17:22.820 Like, I can't have him running away.

00:17:25.300 I need my kids to.

00:17:26.700 So I realized then that I actually let my kids be significantly more aggressive with each other.

00:17:32.140 Oh, we do, yeah.

00:17:32.700 Like I was telling you last night, Torsten and Titan were brawling in the kitchen during dinner for, like, a good five minutes until, and I didn't do anything to stop them.

00:17:43.100 Until Toasty finally clocked Titan with a toy.

00:17:47.280 And then they got in trouble, because I'm like, you could have broken that toy.

00:17:51.180 Like, they do get in trouble, but only for, like, a damaging property.

00:17:57.420 Never for fighting.

00:17:58.520 Never for fighting.

00:17:59.440 Never for fighting, no.

00:18:00.320 And they love fighting.

00:18:02.240 And I will note here that the Backwoods tradition, this positive aspect of Jewish culture, which I think is protective of fertility rates, which is not being overly concerned.

00:18:13.100 About kids being, you know, looked after and perfect is even higher, at least within some context, within my own cultural tradition.

00:18:21.960 I remember we had some of our Jewish friends' kids over to play, and they came off as incredibly sort of timid or docile when contrasted with our children.

00:18:33.940 Like, they were scared of dogs and insects and other, like, gross things in the environment.

00:18:41.280 And it felt very much like that scene from Wolf Children.

00:18:44.620 Yours is so cute.

00:18:46.160 Yours is cute, too, Kino.

00:18:47.600 I found a four-leaf clover.

00:18:49.020 Neat, huh?

00:18:49.720 So did I.

00:18:50.840 Hey, Yuki!

00:18:52.180 Find anything cool yet?

00:18:53.780 Mm-hmm.

00:18:54.580 Lucky! 0.97

00:18:57.220 Other girls didn't think that snakes were a particularly lucky find. 1.00

00:19:01.300 In fact, they were terrified of them.

00:19:03.160 Now, here, I know that I think a lot of this is downstream of my kids coming from a rural-based culture.

00:19:14.300 And so even if you are adopting this lower-hovering strategy, if you're doing it within an urban environment and an urban specialized culture,

00:19:22.960 kids just aren't going to have the exposure to these sorts of natural phenomenon and therefore be more timid around them,

00:19:29.220 which may cause this sort of illusion, like, if I put my kids in the middle of a city, perhaps they would act much more timid as well.

00:19:36.420 Look it! My mom gave me her old jewelry!

00:19:38.400 Oh, wow!

00:19:39.920 I got this one from my parents on my last birthday.

00:19:42.520 Oh, I love it!

00:19:44.160 So, what are you keeping in your treasure box?

00:19:46.420 Ready?

00:19:47.220 Yeah, sure!

00:19:47.900 What did you do?

00:19:48.780 Ta-da! 1.00

00:19:51.920 Other girls also didn't collect mummified lizards in the bones of small animals. 1.00

00:19:56.900 In that, I was very much alone.

00:19:59.680 To be honest, in the nature of both sides and things, I think I might be underselling things here.

00:20:05.420 I remember myself growing up that I, my parents told me that they'd been told that other parents' kids were told they weren't allowed to play with me anymore

00:20:13.920 after they learned that, after I found out that there was this magazine that you could get that was like a science magazine for ordering scientific equipment,

00:20:22.780 you could order animals to dissect, and I thought that was the coolest thing ever.

00:20:27.740 So, I would regularly have dissections prepped in my room to learn about the natural world because I thought that that was normal.

00:20:38.200 And apparently, to many other kids, this looked very scary.

00:20:41.560 And so, this was just a natural part of not just my own kids growing up.

00:20:46.660 And again, keep in mind, I didn't, like, teach my kids to like this stuff.

00:20:51.460 This is just who they are.

00:20:54.140 I think a big part of this is not just cultural in terms of transmission of values, but there's a biological element to this.

00:21:04.600 A Jewish kid wants to learn about the world, he picks up a book.

00:21:07.520 A backwards culture kid wants to learn about the world, he starts cutting open animals. 1.00

00:21:11.180 And the only difference being, and I'm not saying one of these is good and the other one is bad,

00:21:17.040 is that one is condoned by the urban culture and the other is not.

00:21:26.520 Don't laugh at me! I am in the middle of a crisis!

00:21:29.700 But why do you want to act like someone you're not, honey?

00:21:32.480 Because when I act like me, they all run away screaming.

00:21:34.920 I should note here, for people who are new to this podcast, the backwards cultural tradition I'm referring to 0.99

00:21:40.540 is the greater Appalachian cultural tradition in the Americas, which you might think of as

00:21:44.760 truck nuts conservatism or redneck or hillbilly culture.

00:21:48.120 It's the culture that I'm from.

00:21:50.460 What I'm making here is, you can learn to adopt this, but I think it is notable that Jewish groups,

00:21:58.080 and there are other reasons they're high fertility, among them did adopt this.

00:22:02.540 And if you're looking for the key truth or reason why Jews are less affected by fertility 0.93

00:22:07.740 collapse than anyone else, it is evolutionary in both a cultural and likely biological sense.

00:22:14.120 So I'll explain what I mean by that.

00:22:16.100 That's really interesting because, and we can talk about this.

00:22:22.100 Masculpina actually has, he wrote a whole Substack article on why Israel has higher fertility,

00:22:26.880 and it's, he actually says it's not genetic.

00:22:31.380 He thinks that that's a red herring.

00:22:33.880 So go on and I can present you his, his argument if you want to.

00:22:37.140 Well, present me his argument first, because I'm actually kind of surprised that somebody would make that argument.

00:22:42.160 I'll summarize for you with some quotes.

00:22:44.720 Summarize his argument.

00:22:45.700 Come on, let's go. 0.98

00:22:46.240 Come on.

00:22:47.560 Yeah, and you recognize it because it went kind of viral in like the fertility nerd space this time last year.

00:22:52.580 It's, it's from a Substack essay he wrote under non-Zionism, July 24, so last year, called Why is Israel Fertile?

00:23:01.200 And he writes, like it says it's all because of the Harites, this piece.

00:23:06.500 Okay, it's a bad argument, but go ahead.

00:23:09.500 Yeah, I liked his arguments against other reasons why people thought fertility.

00:23:13.700 He would, you would actually appreciate a lot of the other things that he pointed out.

00:23:16.920 One of the arguments you often find, and I think it was in this piece, but I don't remember 100%, against our claim that this is mostly a cultural phenomenon, which, despite all the evolutionary stuff we're talking about in this one, I do think that this is mostly a cultural phenomenon, and I think that it is Jewish culture that protects him the most.

00:23:33.040 But they'll say something like, oh, well, look at people living in rural Guatemala, like their fertility rates are dropping.

00:23:40.600 They haven't been exposed to the urban monoculture, Western cultural exports, and I'm like, what, what are you talking about?

00:23:47.780 Like, I've lived in rural Guatemala.

00:23:50.080 Yes, they have.

00:23:51.860 In fact, I'd argue that the rate that they're exposed to it isn't particularly, you know, when you take their local cultural colorings into account, different from people living in rural America.

00:24:02.260 And a huge afterthought, and I don't know where to put this, but some people say, oh, well, Jewish fertility rates are high because they had an attempted genocide on them recently, and they're trying to get their numbers back up.

00:24:11.960 And it's like, yes, that's probably a factor, but there are other groups that have recently had attempted genocides against them that actually have uniquely lower fertility rates than neighboring populations.

00:24:23.520 In fact, I'd argue that most groups that have had attempted genocides on them recently have uniquely low fertility rates.

00:24:29.820 Like, he points out how a lot of people point to housing policy, and that's a big bugaboo of yours.

00:24:36.860 And he points out that a lot of well-meeting American writers fret about affordable family formation, which is basically about how easy it is for young people to couple up, find stable, well-paying jobs, and buy or rent child-appropriate housing in safe neighborhoods.

00:24:49.980 Affordable family foundation is a good thing, but Israel is an extremely crowded country.

00:24:53.640 The Bank of Israel has deliberately stoked house price inflation since 2008.

00:24:58.040 The average young couple lives in a badly furnished flat on the fifth floor of a modernist monstrosity in a new-built neighborhood drawn up by town planners whose modus operandi appears to be watching YouTube videos on good urbanism, and then just doing the exact opposite.

00:25:11.900 And the photo that he shares of, like, a representative Jewish young family neighborhood is amazing, because it would make, I think it would give more births in an aneurysm. 1.00

00:25:25.500 Yeah, let me show you.

00:25:27.560 Like, this is what he would say is, like, the antithesis. 0.94

00:25:30.400 Oh, I think they're so ugly. 0.92

00:25:31.080 I know, it's horrible. 0.98

00:25:32.480 And that, I think.

00:25:33.720 Oh, it looks pretty spacey.

00:25:34.940 They've got a view.

00:25:35.680 They have a view, but he's against high-rises.

00:25:39.480 I think he's very much for, like, suburban houses with yards.

00:25:43.020 Okay, but my point here being is, what is his argument against the evolutionary argument?

00:25:47.160 I'll read it.

00:25:48.000 Okay.

00:25:48.580 And I'll just, I'll get to the basic.

00:25:51.080 Basically, he argues, yes, that, like, the most pious, high-fertility Jews in Israel do have a trickle-down effect. 0.96

00:25:59.840 But what matters is, like, you also have the Amish in the United States that are high-fertility, but they don't trickle down because they're not admired by the rest of.

00:26:08.720 No, this isn't an argument against evolution.

00:26:11.340 What is his argument against evolution?

00:26:13.100 Oh, okay, I'll get that.

00:26:14.040 Yeah, sure.

00:26:15.300 I remember correctly the argument against evolution he gave in this piece was that Jews in the U.S. don't have a higher fertility rate, which is factually wrong.

00:26:23.960 He says, finally, right-wing futurism and some others contend that once contraception is widespread and women achieve some basic level of legal and practical equality,

00:26:35.620 TFR is a function principally of genetic predisposition to want to marry and have kids, and its culture and institutions are invariant.

00:26:44.540 Apparently not, because Jewish TFR in America is below replacement, even with the Orthodox bumping up the numbers.

00:26:50.940 Yeah, so he's just wrong about this.

00:26:52.460 I just read the numbers.

00:26:53.380 The Jewish fertility rate in the United States is incredibly high, but it's lower than it is in Israel, but you'd expect that. 1.00

00:27:00.140 I still think that he's on to something with the most admired culture or, like, the most pious, most, like, optimal role model culture being one of high fertility and that having a trickle down effect.

00:27:14.980 Right.

00:27:15.600 I don't care about that.

00:27:16.940 Why don't you think that's compelling?

00:27:18.480 I still think that matters.

00:27:19.720 Because it's not.

00:27:20.820 It's just not true.

00:27:21.940 Like, the secular Jews in Israel do not admire the ultra-Orthodox Jews in the way that he is framing them as.

00:27:32.480 Maybe some of the general conservative Jews are on, like, friendly terms with him, but I think that he is creating a framing that is trying to be convenient for his pre-existing worldview.

00:27:44.940 Well, he also talks about how people generally just look around and see what other people have in terms of kids and lifestyle and generally copy that so it normalizes him.

00:27:55.180 And here I would point out that the secular Jews' admiration of the ultra-Orthodox Jew is not higher, at least in my experience, than the mostly secular Muslims' admiration of the very conservative Muslim.

00:28:12.540 Nor could you claim that there isn't a pipeline of very conservative Muslim to slightly less conservative Muslim to slightly less conservative Muslim to secular Muslim that could drive the very high fertility rate of conservative Muslims down through Muslim culture.

00:28:27.420 And yet we don't see a convergent phenomenon within Muslim cultures.

00:28:31.900 But when people look around in the modern world, what they're actually generally seeing isn't the people who live around them.

00:28:39.580 It's what's on movies and TV, and that's not affected by ultra-Orthodox. 0.83

00:28:44.120 It's what's in the ads.

00:28:45.360 It's what's in the art, right?

00:28:47.060 I don't know.

00:28:47.560 If you're going grocery shopping or you're going out to eat or you're going to the doctor and you just see all these huge families, would that not?

00:28:55.520 I could see it having some effect, but I don't think it's going to have a dominant effect in terms of what you think to strive for.

00:29:01.260 Normalization is created through culture and media and stuff like that and your family network.

00:29:05.980 And the thing about the ultra-Orthodox and Haridi community is they are a distinctly separate community in terms of their cultural values and norms.

00:29:14.700 It would be like saying that, you know, today we saw a large Hispanic family at Walmart.

00:29:20.040 That doesn't make me want to have more kids, right?

00:29:22.540 Like I'm like, oh, they're different.

00:29:24.120 They're Hispanic, right?

00:29:25.020 Like they're a different cultural group.

00:29:26.240 And he's arguing that because they're all roughly Jewish and he does seem to think that there's at least some level of respect or admiration that the less religious Jews in Israel still want to kind of be.

00:29:43.260 Like his argument's not wrong that there is some degree of directionality there.

00:29:46.400 I don't think at all it's the secret to why secular Jews in the United States have unusually high fertility rates.

00:29:55.460 Secular Jews in the United States do not love Hasidic Jews.

00:29:58.880 They don't look up to Hasidic Jews and they're not influenced heavily by Hasidic Jews. 0.90

00:30:02.880 So why is their fertility rate so much higher than you would expect from a normal secular population?

00:30:08.180 Why is the general Jewish population's fertility rate in the United States so much higher than you'd expect?

00:30:12.280 So his answer, I just think it's baloney.

00:30:14.140 I think that the actual reason is what he touched on in his daycare post of just like neglectful parents.

00:30:21.260 Look, Jewish populations in the world today.

00:30:23.340 I think when I ran the numbers on this list, it was something like 98% of them live in an urban center, which for a cultural group is absolutely effing insane.

00:30:33.540 That is huge.

00:30:34.340 Yeah.

00:30:34.740 It's basically unheard of.

00:30:36.220 Almost all of the high fertility populations are super rural.

00:30:40.100 Yes.

00:30:40.400 And in addition to that, this is, and it's also really weird in Israel, and I've noted this before, that when you go to all Jewish rural settlements, they cluster into like micro urban centers.

00:30:53.960 That look really weird from the perspective of somebody who grew up in American rural settings.

00:30:59.460 Yeah, unless you grew up in Korea and they do the same thing. 1.00

00:31:02.580 Well, like in America, if you're out in the countryside, it'll be like a 10 minute walk to the next house, you know, or a 20 minute walk to the next house in areas like where our family's ranch was, right?

00:31:13.400 Like, but if you go to, Jewish settlements just aren't structured that way.

00:31:17.840 And people can be like, well, there's a partially religious reason why they're not structured this way, because you need the whatever, the community of 12 guys who meets regularly.

00:31:25.640 Fine.

00:31:26.460 Except we have early Jewish settlers who settled in regions without other Jews in the United States.

00:31:32.020 So we know that Jews are capable of living outside of these. 0.93

00:31:35.740 It's just a high preference for not.

00:31:37.540 So the question, so first, just framing here, Jews are urban specialists, even within a modern context, in an ultra modern context.

00:31:46.380 Now, what's interesting is that they were also historically urban specialists.

00:31:51.200 In the cases of the pogroms and stuff like that, a lot of these were Jewish quarters of cities where Jews were rounded up and everything like that.

00:31:58.660 So in this context, this is really important, because if you look historically at the birth rates of cities, they were really, really low.

00:32:08.260 This is not a modern thing.

00:32:09.580 You can go to the Roman Empire and see incredibly low fertility rates within cities themselves.

00:32:15.020 You see this in the medieval period as well.

00:32:17.260 Yeah, cities have always been fertility shredders.

00:32:19.620 It's up for with the Duke.

00:32:20.840 Well, so basically, people, like the reason why London had more people is because the Brits, who were culturally British, who were having kids in the countryside, sent their kids to go live in the city.

00:32:32.560 The Jews were never like this.

00:32:34.200 They weren't leaning on maintaining their urban population by getting immigrants from external rural populations.

00:32:43.700 They had to find a way to continue to exist, to exist within a totally urban setting.

00:32:50.020 And I'll note here as well, and we argue this extensively in the Pregmanist, Catecraftian religion, is this is not something innate about Judaism's historical ancestor.

00:33:00.580 If you look at Judaism of the time of, you know, the Bible and stuff like that, it was more like other cultures. 0.96

00:33:07.720 I actually argue it was a lot like modern day Islam, where it had a set of rules around how the government worked.

00:33:14.220 And it had carve outs for non-Jews living within Jewish territory and how to do business with them.

00:33:18.880 It was very similar to to Islam in that sense.

00:33:22.800 And we also pointed out that it was actively proselytizing religion back then.

00:33:26.140 Our video on the question that breaks Judaism for a lot of evidence on this particular thing, if you're willing to go into like a four hour.

00:33:33.380 But what happened was, is when the Jews became stateless, they set up in a bunch of different regions. 0.97

00:33:42.480 And when those regions decided to have pogroms against them, there were multiple Jewish cultural groups that we know of from this period.

00:33:49.360 There were some rural groups.

00:33:50.820 There were some that functioned almost entirely like mercenary bands.

00:33:53.860 And then there was the descendants of the surviving group, which was entirely city Jews. 0.97

00:33:58.440 So government decides we're going to kill everyone of this category unless they get out. 1.00

00:34:03.780 If you're a rural population, you're living on land that is likely farmland. 0.98

00:34:08.400 If you get out, you need to go kill and take somebody else's land to continue to survive, basically.

00:34:14.080 If you live in a city, you know, suppose you're a jeweler, suppose you're a banker, suppose you have one of these skills, right?

00:34:20.820 You could just gather your supplies, go to another city and rent there, right?

00:34:25.680 Maybe, maybe buy a place, but that's the most that you're losing.

00:34:29.360 And the ones who became the city specialist group survived at much higher rates.

00:34:34.020 Because you're saying there's basically lower locational switching costs.

00:34:37.400 Yeah.

00:34:37.640 The ones who lived in rural areas, they were only able to survive by hiding their Jewish identity.

00:34:43.160 This is where the crypto Jews come from. 1.00

00:34:45.380 They're a Jewish group that moved to Latin America, mostly.

00:34:48.820 I really want there to be a new version of crypto Jews. 1.00

00:34:52.520 It's just crypto bros.

00:34:54.460 Lived in rural Spain and stuff like that.

00:34:56.480 Anyway, they're mostly died out at this point of a distinct cultural identity.

00:35:00.660 But the point here being is the non-urban-based Jewish factions died.

00:35:07.240 And so Jews, through living in urban centers for very long periods of time, became specialists at these types of environments.

00:35:17.880 And keep in mind, when I say became specialists, what I mean is the cultural traditions that Jews in these communities had that led to higher fertility rates and led to higher cultural fidelity ended up replicating at a higher rate than the Jews who had traditions that didn't do this.

00:35:35.680 And you likely had a degree of biological specialization as well.

00:35:39.440 And so what this created was sort of a pressure that no one else in the world really had to deal with.

00:35:48.360 And when you had the Industrial Revolution, which is when fertility rates began crashing for everyone, what you have during that century is the urbanization of the world.

00:35:59.380 The entire Western world and non-Western world was turned into something closer to what life was like in an urban center in the medieval period than what life was like outside of urban centers in the medieval period.

00:36:14.800 Even a small town like where we live, like Phoenixville or something like that, is closer in lifestyle to, you know, ancient London than an ancient medieval hamlet.

00:36:27.480 And it's the same with the media we get.

00:36:30.360 Because the media is created within urban centers, almost necessarily, it normalizes urban cultural norms.

00:36:39.100 And so, and in many ways, this is in part sort of like we are getting the media that the Jews were resistant to and made resistant to because they had much earlier and longer exposure to these sorts of cultural norms than anyone else.

00:36:54.640 And so when people talk about, when somebody's like, okay, what sort of norms are you talking about here where this might be against another group's biology or ability to act?

00:37:04.960 An example here that you're going to get in most city populations and you get uniquely within Jewish populations.

00:37:09.960 You can go to our episode for more evidence on this called Why Do Jews Have Friends? 1.00

00:37:13.660 Is the normalization of the concept of friendship and friend networks, which is not actually universal.

00:37:20.660 It, for example, is not a part of my cultural tradition.

00:37:24.380 In the Backwoods cultural tradition, you have friend networks, but the first network that matters and really the predominant network you focus on is your clan and your family.

00:37:33.040 And this was, I remember, really made clear to me when we had an Orthodox Jewish friend over to our house and he was talking to our kid and he goes, who are your friends?

00:37:40.340 And my kid's like, well, my brother and my sister.

00:37:43.280 I mean, who are your friends other than your family?

00:37:45.620 And I mean, why would he want friends that aren't his family?

00:37:49.540 And I was like, what do you mean like brother and sister aren't the friends?

00:37:53.100 Those are the only friends.

00:37:54.440 I hadn't even thought about my kid making friends that weren't family.

00:37:58.500 Yeah, we've made zero effort on this front.

00:38:00.280 Which isn't to say we go to kids' birthdays when they get invited and we bring presents and we participate.

00:38:06.480 We're good.

00:38:06.840 Well, I mean, by my cultural norms, which, again, likely evolved alongside my culture's biology, friendship is not that normal a thing outside of clan networks.

00:38:19.120 It's your family and your clan.

00:38:20.080 And I think that if you look at media, like if a kid goes to like the power of friendship and all the shows about, well, we all came together as friends and made this work.

00:38:31.340 You know, you see this being this is the way you should live.

00:38:34.760 This is the way when I'm perfectly normal, being a mostly Hikiko Mori.

00:38:38.280 I talk to people other than my wife, like like about something other than business, maybe four people a year, you know, outside of like direct networking events or something like that, where I'm just like, oh, I have to group all the networking.

00:38:52.200 OK, let's go to a city and like do all this talking.

00:38:54.220 And this is shamed by society right now.

00:38:57.020 Right.

00:38:57.300 And so I can do one of two things.

00:38:59.140 I can attempt to adopt this behavioral style.

00:39:02.980 Right.

00:39:03.540 But if I grew up in a culture that wasn't designed to be commensurate with the concept of friends and I have a biology that's not designed around that, maybe one, I won't get satisfaction and I'll end up neurotic and I'll end up looking for validation in places where I'm not going to receive meaningful validation.

00:39:18.720 And I can just for me, either a biological or the rest of my culture isn't built around this concept.

00:39:23.220 I add this concept to my culture and it begins to break a lot of other things.

00:39:27.380 And I didn't and that might be true of you, for example, and you don't even realize it.

00:39:31.720 Like the reason why you don't feel like you don't have time for another kid is because you're investing in maintaining this friend network.

00:39:39.700 And it's not culturally normative for you, whereas Jews have, you know, 500 years of cultural evolutionary pressure around maintaining friend networks.

00:39:51.660 That it's going to make it easier for them to juggle a wide friend network and a large family.

00:39:58.300 And note here, like this is not like this is all I'm saying, like, it's important to stay friends with the Jews because they're powerful now and they're likely going to grow in their power going forwards, given their high technology and high fertility.

00:40:11.480 But it is also saying that when people say that Jewish cultural values are being exported by Hollywood and media and the advertising agencies, they are one right that Jews disproportionately work within these industries. 1.00

00:40:24.520 So it would be a little insane to say that they're not going to have disproportionate Jewish cultural values.

00:40:29.700 But I think part of what they're wrong is it's not Jewish cultural values that they're seeing. 0.58

00:40:35.100 It's urban cultural values that they're seeing.

00:40:38.000 And Jews are just adapted much more for urban environments. 0.97

00:40:45.280 It's still just so notable that there is a high fertility urban culture.

00:40:50.660 Well, I mean, I think it's going to in many ways, like when I look at what does the future of human civilization look like, I think it is somewhat obvious that Jews will end up and if things are functioning correctly, given their high fertility rates and everything like that, dominating these urban settings. 1.00

00:41:09.920 And something I wanted to note here is if you look at Jews and you look at like the Orthodox Jews who follow their traditions with more fidelity, these evolved traditions with more fidelity, they have the highest fertility rates, right?

00:41:22.320 So the people who are following these traditions with higher fidelity, often the more conservative Jews have more kids. 0.51

00:41:26.820 Of course, you see this throughout traditions, but it seems to be even higher in Jewish communities.

00:41:30.700 And you actually see an antithesis of this.

00:41:33.100 We've noted that in one of our users did a big study on this.

00:41:36.440 In Mormon communities, the very most devout Mormons actually have less kids than middling devoutness Mormons.

00:41:42.160 So the actual highest fidelity cultural conservatism doesn't always lead to a higher fertility rate.

00:41:48.020 But anyway, what I was saying about the future is we might end up with a future in which the urban centers are Jewish dominated and the people who migrate to them, which isn't kind of what we may have had, historically speaking, don't really expect to continue surviving. 0.83

00:42:05.240 They don't really expect to continue high fertility rates.

00:42:08.440 And people can be like, what a horrible thing to say.

00:42:10.720 And I'm like, but it's kind of already true.

00:42:13.520 Everyone I know who lives in a city who is above replacement rate is Jewish. 1.00

00:42:18.920 Like out of all of my friends, everyone who lives in a city who's above repopulation rate is Jewish. 0.99

00:42:24.380 And the Jewish ones are often quite above repopulation rate. 0.99

00:42:27.180 So when these other people move to the city, because I asked them, I go, why are you going to another city?

00:42:32.080 Why are you moving to a city?

00:42:33.640 Their goals never include a big family.

00:42:36.600 When I asked my Jewish friends who move to cities, why are you going?

00:42:40.220 Their goals always include a big family.

00:42:43.040 And often in part, it's because of a pre-existing Jewish community within that city.

00:42:47.820 So it's also about cultural fidelity there.

00:42:50.260 And so, you know, I can say, well, the people who move to cities are basically like, well, they may achieve equal status.

00:42:56.540 The cities are for the Jews, right? 1.00

00:42:58.840 This has already become sort of the norm.

00:43:00.960 And then I think it can lead to good cultural partnerships for the cultural groups that are more urban special, I mean, rural specialists.

00:43:09.980 And I'd also note here that the urban versus rural specialist cultural optimization function may lead to less of an intrinsic power imbalance going forwards than it led to historically.

00:43:21.720 So historically, urban centers became the centers of economic and political and artistic output.

00:43:31.980 Right.

00:43:32.400 Often gave Jews an advantage within these fields because they were already in the cities. 0.82

00:43:36.920 Right.

00:43:37.160 But that was because the ways that cities helped speed up human interaction and communication.

00:43:43.780 You needed the cities to be at companies, to be at one of the big studios, to be at one of the...

00:43:49.420 When we look at the ways the internet has changed this, changed the way people make friends, they build interpersonal relationships with people outside of their networks, the ways that they build wealth.

00:44:01.980 I don't think cities are as big an advantage today as they were historically to power or wealth accumulation.

00:44:11.760 Accumulate that perfectly fine outside a city even today.

00:44:16.840 Interesting thing I'd note about rural specialist cultures, we've mentioned this before in other videos, is that it's very normal for rural specialist cultures when they live in a city to often have, as my family did growing up,

00:44:28.520 a separate rural property that they commute to regularly, like a ranch or a lake house or a...

00:44:35.520 And I've seen even families of fairly modest means have these sorts of things.

00:44:41.480 They don't have that.

00:44:43.000 They often have a camper or RV that is meant for regularly taking the family out into a rural environment.

00:44:51.260 Yeah, that is sort of a thing, isn't it?

00:44:53.380 It is absolutely a thing.

00:44:54.600 And I don't see it very frequently among my Jewish friends.

00:44:56.760 Yeah.

00:44:57.120 Having the camper or having the ranch or having the...

00:45:01.840 So much of that's because, like, if you are employed, you're spending your weekends and the Sabbath with your community and your communities in your rural area in the city.

00:45:13.980 Yeah.

00:45:14.620 So you don't have these free weekends where you go off to your lake house or your ranch house or a campsite or a cabin.

00:45:22.280 Well, I think that this is a very inefficient cultural practice, you know, as sort of a holdover.

00:45:28.060 But what I mean...

00:45:28.460 I mean, it gets you to dig into your local community and help each other more.

00:45:31.920 No, no, I'm saying having a ranch is a very inefficient...

00:45:34.260 Oh, okay.

00:45:34.900 Yes, yeah, yes.

00:45:36.080 That I'm with, yes.

00:45:37.660 The external land.

00:45:39.380 And what I'm seeing...

00:45:41.000 Specifically, non-productive external land that just takes you away from productive work.

00:45:45.620 Because it's purely for...

00:45:47.840 And by design, it forces non-productiveness unless you're going away and writing for your job.

00:45:56.600 No, I mean, the reason that the land is often bought is for child rearing.

00:46:02.080 It's, oh, well, my kids need to grow up in these sorts of environments.

00:46:06.340 Right.

00:46:06.660 And if they don't grow up...

00:46:08.000 And I've noticed here, if you hear this and you hear, oh, my kid needs to grow up around nature,

00:46:12.340 it's very different than the way the urbanite means when they say my kid needs to grow up around nature.

00:46:18.400 Because I hear there is some urbanites who think, oh, nature is good.

00:46:23.280 I like going on walks in the park and stuff like that.

00:46:26.400 When people in rural environment or rural specialized cultures say, my kid needs to grow up around nature,

00:46:31.500 what they mean is they need to hunt and they need to fish and they need to know the basics of growing food.

00:46:37.900 And they need to...

00:46:39.180 Which historically did serve a lot of value for these cultures because that was how they survived.

00:46:43.400 And I think we're seeing within our generation, many people from these rural specialist cultures go back to rural settings. 0.99

00:46:52.160 And as cities begin to collapse due to their long-term incompatible tax structure,

00:47:00.500 you know, as I pointed out, like if New York drops to half its population,

00:47:03.720 it doesn't cost half to manage its water supply, its sewer system, or its electrical grid, or its street maintenance.

00:47:10.540 But it's not even just that.

00:47:12.000 These cities are leveraged to high hell.

00:47:14.120 You know, they're paying for previous populations, as we've mentioned.

00:47:16.940 They don't even need to lose half their population.

00:47:19.160 They need to lose a significant number of their top taxpayers, which may very well happen if Momdani is alive. 0.99

00:47:26.800 Yeah, it was something like, I think around half of New York's taxes are paid by around 4% of their population.

00:47:32.020 Yeah, which is about...

00:47:33.380 I mean, the proposition seems to be to tax them to high heaven.

00:47:38.120 Oh, no, sorry.

00:47:38.680 No, it's not 4%.

00:47:39.400 It was 0.4%.

00:47:40.900 It was, I think, 4% or 5% of their population makes up something like 80% of their tax base or something.

00:47:48.140 It's an insane amount.

00:47:50.220 Already, I'm hearing people who are New York residents declaring that they're absolutely moving out if Momdani is selected.

00:47:56.980 So, it could be even faster, is all I'm saying.

00:47:59.460 So, even these cities...

00:48:00.840 And I mean, I know when I'm in New York and I look around and I see all the empty buildings,

00:48:04.420 because you can see it from the high rises, all the commercial space in Midtown is, like, emptied out now.

00:48:09.040 So, it might not be the enviable thing to not want to live within existing urban environments within this next generation.

00:48:18.360 You know, this might actually be a bit of an albatross around the Jewish population's neck, 1.00

00:48:23.040 as they have to personally repopulate these cities.

00:48:26.600 But I can definitely see that in the future.

00:48:29.300 And I think it's something that we, as a society, need to get better at accepting,

00:48:33.400 that we are different and we do have different specialties.

00:48:37.460 And that through those differences, we actually become better at living symbiotically

00:48:42.560 than by attempting to enforce everyone, to have everyone else's cultural standards.

00:48:48.980 But it's better to allow the, you know, Klan rural groups like us to live on a farm 0.94

00:48:57.780 and be productive in our own way while still engaging with technology.

00:49:02.380 And the Jews, even the Jews are our friend, live in the city.

00:49:05.540 Like, why is that a bad thing to just be like,

00:49:08.780 hey, maybe we shouldn't be normalizing urban cultural values

00:49:13.100 for groups that for the past 500 years have barely lived in an urban environment at all

00:49:20.000 and don't have norms around large friend networks and, you know, many other things.

00:49:26.580 A big one here that gets forced on other group throats 0.96

00:49:29.640 is the omnipower of love as an emotion and as like a guiding force

00:49:35.080 or as a reason to live or as a reason to get married.

00:49:38.440 Where within most rural traditions, love just has not been a particularly important emotion

00:49:44.200 in terms of guiding major life decisions.

00:49:47.060 And yet when I say, yeah, love's just not that important to life,

00:49:50.300 people will freak out because they're like, no, you're supposed to.

00:49:53.140 The man on the TV said it's love and friendship are the two most important things.

00:49:57.300 And I'm like, no.

00:49:58.540 I don't think so.

00:49:59.980 My ancestors didn't think so.

00:50:01.720 Sorry, I should clarify here.

00:50:02.800 This isn't just a rural culture thing.

00:50:04.360 In fact, most cultures throughout human history have not placed a particularly high value on love.

00:50:09.160 Like, for example, you can look at historic Indian culture is one example I remember here.

00:50:13.900 This is just an urban monocultural thing that I don't even think is downstream of like Jewish culture.

00:50:18.260 I just think that it's one of these weird things that the urban monoculture adopted from somewhere.

00:50:23.800 I've noted one cultural norm that we share with Jews,

00:50:27.000 but that other groups don't share is love and debate, right?

00:50:29.820 Like this is something that Jewish cultural groups have

00:50:31.920 that would give you an advantage within urban environments.

00:50:34.100 That would help with the development of like verbal intelligence,

00:50:38.460 which we actually see an outsize within the Jewish population.

00:50:41.440 Look at our Jewish IQ. 0.52

00:50:42.360 It's not actually higher.

00:50:43.460 It's weirder.

00:50:44.240 Or we point out it is actually weirder than that.

00:50:47.060 That like, why should we force this like debate sort of normalization on, for example, Asians?

00:50:55.620 You can look at our Asians are snow people video or whatever we call it, like ice Asians, 0.86

00:50:59.200 where we point out that actually this form of debate is less comfortable for people with those types of cultural traditions,

00:51:06.860 which is a different type of urban specialization.

00:51:09.960 But unfortunately, it doesn't seem conducive with modern environments.

00:51:14.120 As to why Asians are low fertility, you can look at our video on Asian low fertility. 0.81

00:51:19.740 Is it genetic?

00:51:20.720 Again, we think that there might actually be a big genetic component to that.

00:51:23.780 Specifically, the lack of forced marriages and their commonality in historic Asian population.

00:51:30.780 Because they were incredibly common in Asian populations historically.

00:51:33.760 And so if you have co-evolved with a culture where, you know, the way people bred was the wife is put in the house one day.

00:51:43.560 And then you tell the guys, OK, now you need to go out and find a wife.

00:51:47.980 When you tell the women, OK, now you need to be horny enough to, you know, find a guy and accidentally sleep with them and stuff like that. 1.00

00:51:53.820 They're going to be like, no, why would I do that?

00:51:55.500 I'm not I'm not particularly driven to because they didn't need that drive for the past 10 generations.

00:52:00.740 You know, so of course that's going to hit their fertility rate, you know, uniquely badly. 0.97

00:52:05.880 So here what I'm saying, and this is why the fertility, fixing it for you needs to be such a personal thing.

00:52:13.380 This is why when people can say, well, if the urban monoculture, if this sort of attempt to culturally unify all of humanity is the core thing that is upstream of declining birth rates.

00:52:26.180 Why do some areas in the world that appear to be have lessened this urban monoculture appear to have a more of an impact on declining fertility rates?

00:52:35.280 So here I could point to something like South Korea.

00:52:38.820 Somebody could say South Korea is affected less by the urban monoculture than the United States.

00:52:44.880 So why do they have a higher crashing fertility rate? 1.00

00:52:47.900 And I would say it's because the native Korean culture that they evolved alongside is less adapted to urban monocultural norms than the cultures in the United States.

00:53:02.120 This is actually widely why cultures remember I said like the Jews have lived alongside the urban monoculture for a long time and it's helped them adapt to it.

00:53:10.080 So have the backwoods tradition, but they've stayed in the outskirts.

00:53:15.060 So have a lot of Northern Europeans, which is why they've been more resistant to fertility collapse than other groups.

00:53:21.860 Whereas, you know, groups like Koreans and Japanese and Chinese haven't and they're being hit much faster by fertility collapse, which is important to remember.

00:53:32.620 While the threat, this urban monoculture is the same all over on Earth, the way that you adapt to it and patch your culture for it is going to be completely unique to your cultural and biological history.

00:53:46.560 So this explains the mystery of, oh, why is it that, you know, people in rural Guatemala, that their fertility rate is falling so much faster when they have so much less exposure to the urban monoculture?

00:54:00.040 And my response to them is, yes, but what is their ancestral rate of exposure to urban culture versus or the urban monoculture versus what they're being exposed to right now?

00:54:12.160 Oh, it's incredibly low and they just haven't had to deal with this at all.

00:54:16.880 OK, well, then that explains their falling fertility rates.

00:54:19.600 It's a bit like saying, oh, well, explain to me why when there's so much less smallpox disease in the Americas than in Europe, are Americans dying at such a higher rate?

00:54:30.880 It's like, well, because they have no resistance to it.

00:54:33.640 Also here, when I know when I say, oh, you know, it needs to be unique, the solution, even though the threat is the same.

00:54:40.020 If it turns out that our hypothesis that one of the reasons for uniquely falling fertility rates within Asia is the norm of arranged marriages within that region, historically speaking, if erasing that norm through the urban monoculture is what's causing their fertility collapse.

00:54:59.620 And then you could say within, you know, sort of the backwoods fertility collapse, if that's caused by being forced to have these large friend networks, well, the solution is technically the same in that it's adopt your ancestral culture to work with in the modern context rather than homogenizing yourself.

00:55:16.720 The the particularities of the fix go back to arrange marriages or find some other solution that Paris people better find some other solution to not have to maintain big for networks or find a way to make big for networks cohesive with your cultural tradition is really divergent.

00:55:35.000 And be done with in the context of who are you really like and person be like, I don't know that much about my ancestors.

00:55:43.540 You don't need to know that much about your ancestors.

00:55:45.260 Sit down and think about yourself without the context of the society being the waves of society crashing upon you.

00:55:53.600 Think, do I actually want friends, for example?

00:55:58.020 You know, does love need to be part of my relationship?

00:56:02.220 Does do I need to?

00:56:03.700 You know, one of the things that people always trash us for is sleeping in different rooms.

00:56:06.500 But why?

00:56:07.340 What's the utility in sleeping in the same room?

00:56:09.100 You know, there's actually a ton of utility from rural cultures in history to sleep in different rooms.

00:56:14.240 So the people are rising at different times and you have kids in different rooms.

00:56:17.880 So it's totally normal within many cultures throughout history.

00:56:21.560 But today it's just like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:56:22.920 We're going to have one culture and one way of doing things.

00:56:26.120 And the reason why Jews have been resistant to this is twofold. 0.57

00:56:29.840 One, their culture was already more like this one culture that's being enforced on everyone now.

00:56:35.200 And two, their culture had a long time to adapt and evolve strategies to maintain its fidelity, uniqueness, and high fertility rates in spite of that one culture because they have been adjacent to it for so many generations.

00:56:52.180 Thoughts, Simone?

00:56:52.960 I totally agree with you.

00:56:55.540 And I mean, I think people can, they don't seem to be able to wrap their heads around this as easily.

00:57:00.960 And yet anyone can understand that if you move from a very hot climate to a climate that gets to below 20 in the winters, you're probably going to die if you don't change your outfit and make sure that you live in an insulated home.

00:57:17.260 Like, you can't sleep out under the stars at night.

00:57:20.260 And this is just how it is with modern culture and society.

00:57:25.380 People are walking into cities, which are the equivalent of, like, super hot weather climates, you could say, wearing stuff for the winter tundra, like all these layers of furs.

00:57:38.260 And they're just expiring and wondering, why am I expiring?

00:57:41.980 Why is this not working for me?

00:57:43.460 Well, obviously, you're not wearing the right clothing.

00:57:46.040 So you have to adapt.

00:57:48.560 Well, I'd also note that one of the cultural trends here that I think can be pretty toxic for individual decision making is the fetidization of humanity that happens in urban centers.

00:58:03.340 So by this, what I mean is this elevation of humanity is this, like, ultra special thing.

00:58:10.060 You know, people get offended in our videos where we say LLMs function very similar to the way the human brain functions.

00:58:16.720 Textually speaking, you can look up our video on this, that, you know, and I was thinking today, LLMs are thinking machines and humans are thinking animals.

00:58:25.460 And within a world cultural group, or at least the one that I'm from, the sort of clan-based backwards group, this is a very normal sort of a thought. 1.00

00:58:34.280 Like, yes, we are but a degree from the world of tooth and claw.

00:58:39.060 You know, humanity is just a thinking animal.

00:58:43.280 And this really frames the way I see things like LLMs quite differently than the way I see things like humanity.

00:58:50.760 And no one here is going to be like, oh, well, LLMs are just token predictors.

00:58:53.660 You can go to our episode on this, and we argue with extensive neuroscience evidence that the human brain works on a token predictor model as well.

00:58:59.920 But for some cultures, they really struggle with this.

00:59:04.340 Like, Catholics hate the idea of saying, like, humans are just thinking animals, right?

00:59:08.920 Like, they believe that there's this big difference from the external world and other individuals.

00:59:13.540 And if you're like, well, Catholics only think because the Bible says that. 0.90

00:59:17.360 And I'd point out, I'd be like, well, no, it's one interpretation of the Bible that says that.

00:59:22.300 I would argue that Ecclesiastes 3.18 to 21 pretty clearly says the exact opposite.

00:59:28.420 That we are tested by God to make sure that we do not think of ourselves as different from animals, even if we are above animals.

00:59:38.160 You know, when they look to me, and they're like, oh, like, also a clan-based focus.

00:59:42.860 They're like, don't you care about people?

00:59:46.360 Very soon, I was talking to somebody, and they were saying, hey, don't you care about, like, the people in Africa who are going to get AIDS and die because they don't have these programs that U.S. AIDS was providing?

00:59:58.000 Petfart.

00:59:58.640 Yeah, Petfart.

00:59:59.360 And I'm like, no.

01:00:01.200 Like, why would I care about that?

01:00:02.860 Like, they're not relevant to me or my descendants.

01:00:08.200 They're, you know, they're like, well, then why do you care about, like, Israel, for example?

01:00:12.380 Like, what happens there?

01:00:12.980 And I'm like, because they are relevant to me and my descendants, right?

01:00:15.820 Like, this is an incredibly high-technology society that is going to continue to be impactful going forwards that we are in active economic engagement with.

01:00:27.040 I'm not, like, engaged with these cultures in an economic sense.

01:00:31.060 I'm not engaged with them in a cultural sense.

01:00:33.620 I'm not, like, why would I be sending my money to them?

01:00:37.240 And they're like, well, you know, everybody matters.

01:00:39.520 I love the people who are like, everybody matters.

01:00:40.940 I'm like, okay, so when this program was shut down, you started donating to them, right?

01:00:46.500 It's like, no.

01:00:47.220 You did, though.

01:00:47.780 A lot of effective altruists actually did, which is great.

01:00:51.840 It's great, but for a lot of people, they didn't.

01:00:53.520 They were just okay with somebody else's money being sent to these people.

01:00:56.280 Yeah, and they have no right to talk about it.

01:00:58.820 Because a lot of their moral architecture is a faux moral architecture, right?

01:01:03.680 It's not a realistic moral architecture.

01:01:07.060 It's that you could actually live by in any sort of meaningful sense.

01:01:12.060 But I think it's important, you know, when you're building a moral architecture,

01:01:14.920 you expect to be intergenerational and stuff like that, to consider it within the context

01:01:20.920 of, you know, what can be actually intergenerationally durable in terms of actionability and internal

01:01:28.740 consistency.

01:01:30.320 And this, I've realized, was in, like, the nature of the way my family acts and thinks

01:01:36.360 about things is very cogent with the way that we act and think about things.

01:01:40.420 Did you know, like, all of our moral decisions are, well, what moral decision would future

01:01:44.820 humanity have wanted me to make?

01:01:46.600 You know, and is the marginal dollar going to this location going to do more than the

01:01:52.520 marginal dollar that's spent on, like, technological advancement to people in the future?

01:01:56.620 And the answer to me is almost always, oh, technological advancement matters more than, you know,

01:02:01.080 saving people in a random part of the world.

01:02:03.400 Because there's horrible things happening all around us.

01:02:06.780 You know, there's a coyote eating an animal alive right now, you know, probably miles from

01:02:13.980 our house, right?

01:02:14.760 Like, this is something that happens in the world every day.

01:02:19.140 Our jobs as humans is not, like, the suffering police.

01:02:23.740 Our job is continued advancement.

01:02:26.400 And looking at how we build the alliances that are necessary for that continued advancement

01:02:31.580 is, you know, what I see as my daily ethical goal.

01:02:35.560 And note here, I'm laying out the way that my ethics, which are in part inherited from

01:02:40.800 my cultural tradition, differ from the ethics that the urban monoculture attempts to impose

01:02:46.200 on me and then guffaws and wants to treat me like a monster when I have any differing ethical

01:02:52.520 beliefs from their general utilitarian ethical beliefs, that they come to me and they go,

01:02:58.220 don't you care that these people are suffering?

01:03:00.240 And I'm like, not particularly.

01:03:04.060 It has nothing to do with me.

01:03:06.100 It has nothing to do with my descendants.

01:03:08.580 It has nothing to do with shaping the future of humanity.

01:03:11.580 So, no, I don't.

01:03:13.700 And I'd point out here that I don't really believe that you do either.

01:03:16.860 But if you want to go out there and make yourself the world police of suffering and just

01:03:23.440 wipe out all suffering in nature and in other humans, you go do that.

01:03:28.320 You go have your fun little urban monoculture quest.

01:03:31.640 But I don't really believe that the urban monoculture cares about these things.

01:03:35.960 I think that they just like to signal that they care about them, which is why they care

01:03:40.340 so little about so many of the, for example, big genocide that right now is happening in

01:03:45.100 Central Africa.

01:03:46.140 They just don't care.

01:03:47.400 They just don't care because it doesn't fit any of their existing agendas right now.

01:03:51.180 And so when they come to me and they go, well, why don't you care about these people?

01:03:53.660 I go, don't you care about the big genocide that's happening?

01:03:55.440 They're like, there's a genocide happening.

01:03:56.960 I'm like, yeah, you should probably, you know, be doing something about that.

01:03:59.820 Or they'll make this big stink about slavery. 0.97

01:04:02.020 And I'm like, well, there's more slaves right now than there have been at any point in human

01:04:05.820 history.

01:04:06.240 What are you doing about it?

01:04:07.740 Oh, nothing.

01:04:08.720 So you would have been somebody who did nothing about it during the time of slavery.

01:04:12.320 Where I know my ancestors literally put their lives on the line to go to war against the

01:04:16.400 government to try to end slavery.

01:04:18.500 As we pointed out of the Free State of Jones, 15 of the 50 founding members were either ancestors

01:04:23.540 of mine or brothers of ancestors of mine or children of siblings of ancestors of mine.

01:04:27.960 And so I understand that from the position of this moral hierarchy that the urban monoculture

01:04:34.220 tries to pick where anyone who had the non-utilitarian value set is deemed as evil, you know, you would

01:04:40.180 prefer to look down on me.

01:04:41.940 But I'm pointing out that this broad suffering police moral authority that that you believe

01:04:48.280 to be a superior one is also a sterilizing one because it is fundamentally incompatible

01:04:54.120 with human thriving and ultimately leads to negative utilitarian values, which you can

01:04:59.120 look up our videos on that.

01:05:00.560 Two little side notes here.

01:05:01.860 One is it's funny to me that because the Free State of Jones today is framed through an

01:05:06.840 urban monocultural lens, it's framed as like a group of do-gooders who wanted to stand

01:05:12.900 up to this, who randomly came together based on shared values, where if you look at like

01:05:17.860 somebody's like, how could so many of your ancestors have been involved in this?

01:05:21.120 And it's like, well, because it wasn't a random group of do-gooders.

01:05:24.160 It was a backwoods family clan that was mad at the government.

01:05:28.360 And today we don't think of things in terms of clan networks.

01:05:32.780 We think of things in terms of ideological alliances.

01:05:37.660 And I don't hear when people are like, well, I like the perception of the urban monocultural

01:05:42.420 value better.

01:05:43.280 And as I've worded here, I don't think the urban monoculture actually believes its value

01:05:48.280 system.

01:05:49.000 It has one value system that it signals to people where its actual value system is see

01:05:54.160 yourself is as good a person as possible, whatever the cost to others.

01:05:58.920 You don't actually need to go out and fix problems.

01:06:01.220 Whereas my signaled value system, while it may seem less moral to you, is at least my

01:06:07.760 real value system.

01:06:09.420 And that is why when people say, why do you, why are you so pro-Zionist, right?

01:06:12.840 Because it's a guy who's pearly and anti-Zionist. 0.59

01:06:15.000 Because I think that...

01:06:16.120 I don't think he's an anti-Zionist.

01:06:17.800 But like non-Zionist Judaism.

01:06:20.200 Well, I mean, like, I think because if I look at the future, it's going to be a future

01:06:26.420 where Jews have even more disproportionate influence than they have today, and building

01:06:31.900 systems for working with them is critical if you are a group that plans to survive.

01:06:38.700 I believe, you know, and not just that, but even today, they're out-competing within an

01:06:43.660 existing context.

01:06:44.480 They out-compete with business.

01:06:45.460 They out-compete with wealth.

01:06:46.840 They out-compete within the arts.

01:06:49.640 And you can say that's because it's nepotism.

01:06:51.560 I'm like, well, everyone else is allowed to be nepotistic.

01:06:53.580 Like, Mormons are nepotistic. 1.00

01:06:55.520 Catholics are nepotistic. 1.00

01:06:56.780 Like, why?

01:06:57.640 If this group is doing well, I should try to learn from them.

01:07:01.440 It very much, as I've said, reminds me of this progressive sensibility where it's like,

01:07:05.840 oh, whites in America are earning more than blacks. 0.52

01:07:08.300 It must be because they're doing something unfair.

01:07:10.420 Yeah, it is so bizarre to me that a lot of people who otherwise identify as conservative

01:07:14.300 have this butthurt about this particular group doing well.

01:07:18.520 Well, we'll be fine.

01:07:20.280 Copy them.

01:07:20.820 Do better.

01:07:21.520 Like, that's the normal conservative response.

01:07:24.640 Yeah, learn what they're doing and do better, right?

01:07:26.840 Yeah, take what you like.

01:07:28.020 Take what makes them succeed and do it yourself, but better.

01:07:31.580 Your own labor.

01:07:33.500 But as to the Zionist point, it's because historically, Jews did not have their own state and people 0.91

01:07:40.060 kept killing them.

01:07:41.020 And like, it wasn't just the Holocaust. 0.88

01:07:42.840 It was a lot of times.

01:07:44.300 Yeah.

01:07:44.540 And then if you look, you know, even now, people are like, oh, people wouldn't do that

01:07:49.220 today.

01:07:49.920 I'm like, I'm pretty sure I see people marching through London and New York chanting from the

01:07:53.600 river to the sea or death, death to the IDF at like these giant, like, I can understand 1.00

01:07:58.080 why a Jewish person, many of my Jewish friends no longer feel safe in the United States.

01:08:01.340 Like, oh my gosh, yeah.

01:08:02.920 And you could be like, well, they're only saying it about the IDF, but it's like, yeah, but 0.76

01:08:06.360 then they're chasing Jewish kids around schools to like attack them.

01:08:10.120 So clearly they have animosity towards just like Jews as well.

01:08:14.000 I think some conservatives, because they notice the similarities that Jewish culture has to

01:08:18.240 the urban monoculture simply from living alongside it for so long, that they think that the Jewish

01:08:23.320 culture is the urban monoculture when in reality, the Jewish culture is as much victimized by and

01:08:30.640 has a genocide mandate against it from the urban monoculture as our own.

01:08:35.600 As I point out, because the urban monoculture says that all differences between groups, if

01:08:41.580 there's any difference between two groups, it must be because of systematic unfairness.

01:08:45.140 And because Jews outcompete in many categories, it will always turn against Jewish populations

01:08:50.540 in the end.

01:08:51.980 And so we should not confuse them as anything other than allies in our struggle against this

01:08:57.540 force, even if they have aesthetic similarities to our enemy, because our enemy does want them 0.82

01:09:05.260 dead. 0.99

01:09:05.940 And I find it uniquely ironic that the very progressives who say, oh, Jews don't need 1.00

01:09:12.280 their own state to be safe, will also chant, you know, we need to kill all the Jews, you 1.00

01:09:18.060 know, from the river to the sea or death, death to the IDF, you know, at their major events 0.99

01:09:22.300 or chase them through schools, proving the need for such a thing.

01:09:27.160 I was just watching YouTuber with non-trivial following have butthurt about where Bread

01:09:32.160 Tube has gone on YouTube and how it's all gone downhill and ContraPoints isn't doing

01:09:36.800 enough work and how instead we should be looking to the people at places like Glastonbury who

01:09:42.780 are saying what needs to be said.

01:09:44.220 And that's the place where they were like chanting against the Jews.

01:09:47.600 Yeah.

01:09:47.800 Yeah.

01:09:48.120 Like what's what the point I'm making here is, is the threat that Jews face from being

01:09:53.780 in a non-Jewish state still exists within the world today and is likely going to get 1.00

01:09:59.840 worse in the future.

01:10:01.420 I think it is very hard to consider yourself a real cultural ally of the Jewish people and

01:10:06.600 wanted destruction of the Jewish state. 0.61

01:10:08.540 Yeah.

01:10:09.100 And I think that this also like the way I think about groups as I've defined in here, you

01:10:14.120 know, I think about, oh, how likely are they to be allies of my descendants and how likely

01:10:17.960 are they to continue to technologically develop and economically develop, you know, in terms

01:10:23.860 of like what it means to be human and continue to advance that.

01:10:26.900 When I look at the groups that Israel is in conflict with and I have to be like, which

01:10:31.540 group is more likely to do this?

01:10:33.860 You know, I'm like, oh, it is this group.

01:10:35.780 Therefore, it makes more sense for me to lean culturally in their direction than in the 0.54

01:10:40.540 direction of the other groups.

01:10:41.560 And I'm not saying anything here about like the ethnicity of these groups or the religion

01:10:45.520 of these groups.

01:10:46.200 I'm just saying I can look at the economic data of these regions.

01:10:50.280 I can look at the startups coming out of these regions.

01:10:52.480 I can look at what's being built in these regions and I can make an educated guess.

01:10:59.640 Yeah.

01:11:02.640 Nothing to add on my end.

01:11:04.740 Then people are like, oh, well, no, come on.

01:11:07.060 These regions are only poor because of Israel. 1.00

01:11:08.980 And I'm like, oh, they're only poor because of Israel. 1.00

01:11:11.020 Then how come people with similar cultures are also desperately poor when they live in

01:11:16.320 other regions that aren't right next to Israel?

01:11:19.180 Like, like why?

01:11:20.000 Why is it that this culture where it is practiced without extreme levels of oil wealth or just

01:11:26.680 like an easily capturable wealth source lead to extreme poverty so frequently?

01:11:31.080 Like, can't you just say, oh, it might have something to do with the cultural system.

01:11:34.560 And that doesn't mean that we have a right to go in and change that cultural system.

01:11:38.280 I don't think we do.

01:11:38.940 I think they have the right to, as we've said in our video on is it Islamophobic to ban

01:11:43.160 child marriage, which was argued by Pakistani religious court.

01:11:46.600 You know, I was like, look, they have a right to do things their way.

01:11:49.160 Right.

01:11:49.400 And, and I would fight to protect that right.

01:11:52.940 But when there is a conflict between two groups, I'm going to side with the group that is more 0.97

01:11:57.120 likely to, to do the things that I want for the future of humanity.

01:12:01.960 Absolutely.

01:12:03.520 Anyway, I don't know.

01:12:04.580 I probably went way too offensive on this episode.

01:12:06.400 Everybody wants us to be anti-Semitic.

01:12:07.920 They saw our episode on finally somebody created Mecca Hitler and they were like, what? 0.68

01:12:12.380 They're not anti-Semites?

01:12:13.740 No, just a lot of people in the comments were trying to warn the anti-Semites in the comments

01:12:20.040 that we were actually pro-Israel.

01:12:23.320 Just, you got to warn the people.

01:12:28.260 Yeah, I think our positions on Jewish stuff really surprised a lot of Jewish people.

01:12:32.140 Because like in art, the question that breaks Judaism, we have a lot of questions about

01:12:34.900 Jewish theology and a lot of problems with like the nitpickiness of it.

01:12:38.680 But in terms of like the Jewish culture overall in the Jewish state, like we're very like

01:12:44.080 strong Zionists and stuff like that, which I think surprises a lot of people.

01:12:48.540 It shouldn't be surprising.

01:12:49.640 I mean, we're a different flavor of this, but there are so many Christian Americans who

01:12:53.180 are like, I mean, in an almost insensitive and mean to Jews kind of way, they're like 1.00

01:12:58.540 they want to use the Jewish people as a cudgel to, what do they call it? 0.95

01:13:03.700 To make the second coming happen, all that nonsense.

01:13:06.420 That's why we like them.

01:13:07.840 I know, but I'm just saying like, it should be normalized for Jews to be used to Americans

01:13:13.160 who like Jews, but don't like Jews, if that makes sense.

01:13:16.460 Not that we don't like Jews.

01:13:17.580 We have philosophical quips or not quips, quibbles.

01:13:26.140 But yeah, it just, it's normalized.

01:13:30.380 I love you too.

01:13:34.120 How are people commenting on our episode today?

01:13:36.060 They like it.

01:13:38.340 I think if there's any particular theme, there's not really like a unifying theme among the

01:13:42.080 comments, which is, I think, a good tool.

01:13:45.720 Yeah.

01:13:45.860 I mean, it shows that we didn't mess up in any way that they can like easily call us out

01:13:49.220 on.

01:13:50.660 No, no.

01:13:52.320 Like there, there wasn't anything.

01:13:53.860 Yeah, I think people agree that networks are really important.

01:14:02.540 Yeah, no, I don't know.

01:14:04.460 I enjoyed the episode.

01:14:05.420 Some people were like, we could do our own episode just on different social classes.

01:14:10.400 Oh, is, did you get the new helmet?

01:14:12.000 It arrived.

01:14:12.800 It's outside.

01:14:13.280 Oh, yeah, it did.

01:14:13.940 But I haven't gone out and gotten it yet.

01:14:15.400 So we'll show it tomorrow.

01:14:17.660 Tomorrow.

01:14:18.640 Yeah.

01:14:18.900 So second Father's Day present, that helmet back there was the first one.

01:14:22.620 But she also got me a Roman one as well.

01:14:25.020 So just all of the historic helmets.

01:14:29.000 For man reasons, I need them.

01:14:31.480 Yeah.

01:14:31.680 Well, because men aren't constantly thinking of Sparta.

01:14:34.940 They're thinking of Rome.

01:14:37.000 So.

01:14:38.180 I disagree.

01:14:38.980 I think I actually I'd be interested to know this.

01:14:42.000 They asked how often do men think about ancient Rome and this went around.

01:14:46.000 But I wonder, is there an equivalent?

01:14:48.100 How how often do men think about ancient Greece?

01:14:50.780 I think about ancient Greece more than I think about ancient Rome.

01:14:54.000 Same, actually.

01:14:55.140 The more interesting people.

01:14:57.480 Like mystically.

01:14:58.780 Well, they've had bigger like there's no Rome.

01:15:03.460 I mean, there's some Roman Catholic.

01:15:04.480 Rome wishes it were ancient Greece.

01:15:06.520 That's the thing.

01:15:07.100 It's like you kind of can't think about ancient Rome without also thinking about ancient Greece because Rome just wishes.

01:15:12.740 Just wishes.

01:15:13.780 The Romans only thought about ancient Greece.

01:15:16.540 I totally thought about ancient Rome.

01:15:18.400 How many times a day does Roman on Twitter at the forum hanging out?

01:15:22.660 What's he thinking about?

01:15:23.540 How many times a day does the average Roman citizen think about ancient Greece?

01:15:27.820 That's it.

01:15:29.360 The average Roman male five times a day and the Roman women are shocked at this.

01:15:33.760 Oh my.

01:15:34.300 Yes, exactly.

01:15:35.560 Exactly.

01:15:36.000 Exactly.

01:15:37.100 I love to do that.

01:15:39.500 But all true.

01:15:40.960 All true.

01:15:41.440 You know the way to a guy's heart.

01:15:44.460 Oh yeah?

01:15:45.280 And what's that?

01:15:45.820 And a drink.

01:15:46.980 Now pick up the alcohol. 1.00

01:15:47.860 And what's that?

01:15:49.320 This.

01:15:50.060 It's a compass.

01:15:50.980 A compass.

01:15:51.940 This.

01:15:53.300 Is a duck call.

01:15:55.460 Wow.

01:15:56.300 And this is. 0.97

01:15:57.800 Toasty, you're a duck.

01:15:59.060 Why is it not turning on? 0.99

01:16:04.400 You blow it.

01:16:05.080 You blow it.

01:16:05.840 You blow it. 0.99

01:16:06.820 Blow it with your mouth. 0.98

01:16:07.660 Toasty. 0.99

01:16:08.000 I said a duck.

01:16:15.580 Put it in here.

01:16:19.640 Are you loading the gun, Titan?

01:16:21.200 Put it all the way here.

01:16:22.940 I was yelling like a duck. 1.00

01:16:28.100 Yeah, that's to get the ducks to come so you can shoot them. 0.99

01:16:30.740 Right, Toasty? 0.99

01:16:31.460 Another one too.

01:16:33.180 Yeah, another one too.

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Based Camp - July 21, 2025

Jews Will Replace You ... But Why？

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