Julius Evola & Super Fascism： The Bizarre Ideology Making A Resurgence
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The philosophical ideas of a man who hated the nazis because he thought they were too woke and weren't nearly racist enough for his standards. This man is a man called Julius Evola and he was around during the period of World War II.
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about
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the philosophical ideas of a man who hated the nazis because he thought they were too woke
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and weren't nearly racist enough for his standards this is a man called julius evola so so actually
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he calls himself a super fascist he he didn't actually hate the not he he criticized him over
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that but he thought that what they were doing broadly aligned with his ideology which was a
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very interesting world perspective and i i wanted to talk about it because i was looking at and trying
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to understand where some of the new vitalistic philosophies got their world framing from
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for example the philosophy of bap or bronze age pervert who by the way is explicitly said to his
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followers don't read this guy directly it's all philosophical what is it like mystical hoodoo
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but he'll occasionally read things that this guy has written is like a sort of vibing and when you
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when you see this guy's ideal you'll be like oh i can see where the framework presented by a bronze age
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pervert or by a man's world or something like that may have come in part from this guy's ideology he
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was around during the period of world war ii so you understand he was in italy he's an italian i know i
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know terrible is he still alive he was alive until the 1970s but he's not he's not an actively
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publishing substack author he he's an actual philosopher who wrote stuff in history born in
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the 1800s yes pre-internet okay okay okay okay okay gotcha so like philosopher philosopher guy
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and his ideas if you strip out the the racism and everything like that of his ideas because there's a lot
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of racism it was interesting he believed that different ethnic groups had different qualities
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like there was like a hierarchy of soul quality between ethnic groups but that you could work
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so that you your goal was to always improve your soul quality right like like how we believe a person's
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life's goal is so he wasn't an hbd dude he was a like soul like metaphysically different groups
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were different yeah that's why he didn't like the nazis because he said so that was his big
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disagreement with him he was like well you know they're they're being too like materialistic oh my
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god it's like don't look at the genetics you have to you have to look at their auras i'm so he thought
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he thought that you could like work out your soul enough he's like a soul on what grounds was he
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evaluating their souls we will talk about it but he thought that you could work it out enough
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that you could get your soul into like another ethnic group of souls so like you you could have
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an arian soul even if you weren't arian and if you were arian but like you were too materialistic
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that's kind of hindered right i mean like i guess you could die and be reincarnated reincarnated in a
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different level oh yeah he was heavily influenced by buddhist theology okay okay okay okay okay okay his whole
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world perspective was much more closely tied to buddhism than it was to christianity wow although
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although what he would have called himself is not christian or buddhist he believed he was trying to
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revitalize the pagan world of the ancient greeks and romans and he thought that was like the correct
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way to practice religion but you you can get an idea of like where that fits with something like
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that and all the greek and roman statues and everything like that right i'm so intrigued now
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because this is already so unhinged i mean it's hindu but make it idolize ancient greece and
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make it racist and all these insane things the nazis got it wrong because they weren't looking at souls
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they weren't looking at souls they were they were just being too woke about this whole thing
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it's so it's so weirdly insulting like i i i i don't even know where to start wrapping my head
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around this okay okay i mean i guess it's kind of like the the whole mormon thing of like well if you
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were until they decided that they were wrong about this like well if you're born black that means you
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know if you're not white and delightsome you did something wrong well i can't remember that was
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something along those lines right yeah so well it means your soul i think it was that you didn't
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actively join jesus when satan revolted against jesus in sort of pre-life when they had the big
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soul battle and so they had the soul battle and the souls that join jesus they are born as white people
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and the souls that were neutral in the battle are the ones that became dark-skinned people the draft
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dodgers how dare you yes yeah so it's like that i guess kind of but not it's much more hindu sounding
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this is just so intriguing okay so i'll first do an overview of his philosophy then we'll go into a
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little bit of his writings and then we'll go into some like interesting unique points of it okay all
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right so his philosophy is often termed magical idealism or transcendental realism and it posits a
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dualistic ontology a natural material world contrasted with a primordial eternal being
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forming a hierarchical chain from the divine to the profane he rejected discussive knowledge in favor of
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spiro-rational intuition viewing the self as capable of creating reality and achieving unity with the
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absolute through self-divination essentially constructing divinity rather than submitting to a
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personal god so this is like the quaker kind of thing we're like if i feel it then it's real
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am i reading that right not exactly so quakers still believe that there's like an external god to them
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that's talking to them he believed that you built god sort of through honing your internal
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metaphysical powers or spirit or the power of wishy thinking yeah yeah the power of wishy thinking
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now if you if you look at it from our perspectives this is interesting because it has
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some parallels to our beliefs where we also believe that god is something that is built but we believe
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he's built through materialistic process of self-improvement improvement of humanity intergenerational
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improvement whereas he sees it god as being built by a a a single generation's cultivation of the soul
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so like your your individual cultivation of the soul within yourself and he believed that we were
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currently living in kali yuga so you can see already like heavily influenced by hindu ideology there so
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it's also hindu i should know vola viewed history as uh involution or decline through four ages was the
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current kali yuga dark ages marked by chaos vice and the triumphs of the masses over the elites he
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rejected the linear progress or darwinian evolution as regressive myths advocating a return to a
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primordial golden age through spiritual renewal paleogenesis so okay so there there's the oh
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paleogenesis so that's the bad thing that's that's maybe where we're like yeah this revival of some
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idealized ancient age well he thought that like society should be structured in a way where you have
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the people with the better souls they're like the elite souls ruling over the naturally and obviously
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inferior general population and and what he hated about the modern world sort of democracy and all of
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that is that the the inferior the masses had control over the superior the the leadership cast
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right and why this is interesting to me is you can see this very philosophical belief mirrored in say
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somebody like nick fointas's ideology right that there is there is profanity in the concept that
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the masses would have control over you know like like nick fointas is very critical of democracy more
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broadly now we are we are fairly critical of democracy ourselves and we always point out that the reason you
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have democracy like the point of democracy is not to source the opinion of the masses it's to put
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competent people in positions of power and remove them when they are abusing those positions of power
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right that's that's the core reason you need a democratic system i mean ideally you would just have
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a society that chose whoever was the the smartest and most altruistic and most level-headed into the
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best metaphysical understanding of reality and put them in a position of power right
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and we just think that that right now democracy is not it's it's not good at doing that but there's
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few other better systems right now other than the ones that we've outlined but a lot of the ones that
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the people like him want to see in power is they're just like naturally somehow the people with the
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better souls are going to be born into these positions like if you put if you concentrated power
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in a few individuals and then they started surrounding themselves with cronies and stuff like that which
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they often sort of have to do because if they're not you know giving the corruption to the cronies
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the power they have to overthrow them right and so then they start surrounding themselves with
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incompetent people so that they have less of a possibility of overthrowing them and so somebody
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else can't overthrow them as easily and then you get all the the corruption and everything like that
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that leads to the failed state which you have in a situation like iran right like that's that's how you
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get that even if you are sorting for the most spiritual was in your community which is what
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they were when they were setting up the ayatollah and the the council that served under him was in
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iran like these were considered the most devout people which we discussed yesterday is what like
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an ideology of like nick fuentes would want to do in society but just with a different religion that
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that still corrupts incredibly quickly and like spirals out of control incredibly quickly and then you get a
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lot of government graft and we've pointed out like iran's water situation is caused by the
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corruption that happened because of the way this was structured you always get lots of corruption when
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you centralize power in this way now this might be something that can be addressed with ai but like
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that's why that's generally a bad idea but i i do agree that there is something profane about a society
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in which the masses have control of or influence over people who well i wouldn't say they have better
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souls or anything like that because that's not a concept that we believe in you can look at our track
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series on this we would say that there there are people who seem to patently you know work harder
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on defining their world frameworks or metaphysical frameworks seem to have a better work ethic seem to
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be more agentic and that these individuals if they had more power in society would would likely make
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society a better place but to continue here he believed in a spiritual racist hierarchy he divided
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spiritual racism i i do i'm delighted to be introduced to this as a new concept the concept
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of spiritual racism yeah so the the interesting thing about him is so you might think oh well you
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know he's looking at like the the the nazis and he's saying well you know you just think it's the body and
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i think it's the soul no no no he thought everyone was three things and the body was the least important
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okay the other two were the soul and the spirit and the spirit was the most important wait so the soul
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the soul and the spirit are separate things how are they separate uh the soul is sentience but i can
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look this up right now okay i'm also curious if you have found in your research of him some explanation
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if someone had a good soul or a not good soul if that makes sense right like i mean the the the
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materialistic racists right they could just look at someone and and fairly quickly know
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oh i like this person or i don't like this person but this guy's walking down the street he can't just
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look at someone and be like bad soul good soul like how do you even be a soul racist when you
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can't unless you like read auras and auras were a reflection of people's soul and could see them
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somehow or like you could yeah i want to understand this well
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he really hated materialism or focus on like the material world and as such he saw anything that was
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tied to that either like economic materialism or science or other forms of that type of materialistic
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exploration of reality as inherently corrupting so he'd hate us and he really didn't like the jews
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either so he saw that as like a an example of of badness note about him he died without kids as
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people like this always do yeah we point out that when you get into mysticism it begins to break down a
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lot of other systems and you typically don't achieve what actually matters in life like he was
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trying to vitalism max in a way but in this weird doomerous way that would have never worked
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i'm i fail to see the vitalism what is vitalism if you don't produce anything materially
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he called life is like riding the tiger well that's the thing and this is why we i i complain about
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mysticism and and this focus on like the soul and everything like that so much it's because it
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allows you to say well i'm improving this this thing that like no third party can you know evaluate
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or make a judgment on and because no third party can make a judgment on the thing that he's building
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of himself you know he can just always be like oh yeah i might be which he became a permit who lived
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alone and didn't like go outside much or talk to outsiders but he was working on his spirit right you
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know how very vitalistic it allows you to well he'd say i'm spending all day he called it riding
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the tiger like oh yes modernity in this this horrible world he at one point by the way had a
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a tryst with a famous feminist in italy which i think is funny but i'll get to his views on sex
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because that was one of the things i wanted to hear yeah let's do he wrote a book called the
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metaphysics of sex also called eris and the mysteries of love where he views sex as a metaphysical
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force beyond biology reproduction or mere pleasure he rejects evolutionary or feridian explorations
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seeing eros as a path to unity and transcendence overcoming ego boundaries through ecstatic
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intoxication sex can be profane carnal and instinctual or sacred ritualistic leading to
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spiritual ecstasy no tartra taoism no like the hermaphrodite no he described he describes a
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magnetism of love as an inexplicable hyper aesthetic state of independent of logic and morality potentially
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activating cosmic energies avola discusses practices like tantric sec for transmutation
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e.g controlling ejaculation but warns of the dangers when not grounded in discipline he critiques modernity
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for reducing sex to consumption or sentiment advocating its elevation to a mystery aligning with
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traditional hierarchies including gender polarities male as active and female as passive gayness and
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other forms are addressed ambivalently sometimes as passed to unity but often within his hierarchical
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framework i can't i don't have the range necessary in my eye sockets to roll my eyes enough for what
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you just recounted to me i am i am disgusted by i think what's the most insulting is that he put a lot
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of thought into something that absolutely means nothing there is no such thing as love as he believes in
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it there is no such this this transport he is literally just deluding himself into thinking he did
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something with his life and he did nothing with his life aside from apparently potentially influence
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a couple of i mean i don't know what's the legacy that bap is going to leave behind i i don't know
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we'll get to that yeah because i mean i don't think it's just bap i think as people have looked
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for vitalism this is one of the sort of types of vitalism they've looked for when you look for
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and vitalism is america's manifest destiny vital vitalism is is is materialism incarnate i i can't
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understand that yeah you've kind of blown my mind that someone could be seen as vitalistic and not
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materialistic well there's a form and this this is why we're discussing this guy okay i think he
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represents a perfect inversion of what we would want to see realized in the world yeah because his
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vitalism is entirely tied to the concept of the the the what's the word i'm looking for here the
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mystical stuff is not real and we believe in stuff yeah you can't objectively get any judgment on right
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it's it's non-predictive of reality and as such and we we always warn about the dangers of mysticism
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whenever we don't we haven't done a religious stuff in a while but like it is it is so toxic and i think
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some people when they look for vitalism they are drawn to looking for it in mysticism and and you
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know we see we see people going down this an example of a friend of ours who's going on this path
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is ruby art and i think that he bounced back from that hasn't he bounced back from that i still think
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that mysticism is a key part of his world framework and i think that that we need to look at what ends
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up happening to you in life if you try to draw vitality through mysticism or magic or the supernatural
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or other forms of what i would see negative negative things in the past we would have said this was a
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witch or a you know but but in in the modern times no he's not even a witch i wish he were a witch but
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witches make spells and hex people and kill people and and cure people they do stuff materialistically
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god bless witches compared to him he can't even all he can do is manage tantric sex with a feminist
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are you kidding me i'm just you have no idea how much that disgusts us this idea that he
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thought that you were like getting anything look and and the idea that he's like well there's like
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carnal sex and then there's ritualistic sex what is what is a bigger waste of time the only version of
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we say is not a sin it is procreative sex just period and and if we have non-procreative sex we get
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that like it's fine but it's also a sin and he he can't even manage just like enjoying carnal sex he's
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like no i have to i have to pretend that it's something more i just kind of probably just to
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satisfy himself to think that he's some kind of intellectual and he tricked enough people
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apparently again simone and this is important this is actually for this man how did how was he allowed
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to do this so suppose that you have a belief in the mysticism like the the core point is sort of
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culturating the mystical forces within yourself right like the the soul the spirit everything
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like that right all of the things that you cannot subjectively judge touch look at the development of
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and now you need to make judgments about something like is sex bad right and so you look at it and
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your internal psychology is going to be heavily influenced by your biology that wants you to have sex
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right and so you allow that to corrupt you because you have no subjective way of knowing whether sex
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is bad or good in in your framework because your entire framework is based off of mysticism and feels
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so you of course say well yeah of course it feels good to me and i'm able to do it in a in a way that that
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that follows some other parts of my tradition like that is ritualistic and disciplined in some way
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so it's like good in elevating i mean then you're you're able to use that which i'm sure he did
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to try to get people to sleep with him right like that's that's what these people always do right
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but i wanted to go to your earlier question about the difference between the soul and the spirit
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yes please good so he often translates soul as psyche or mind it encompasses emotions instincts
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character temperament subjective experiences and psychological patterns
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he fully described it as the subtle body or formative forces between purely physical and
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purely spiritual it is contingent changeable and tied to individual personality cultural influences
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and even environmental factors there's a materialistic basis for all of these things as i imagine he knew
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yeah and then the spirit as he saw he this was the highest it was supra rational transcendent
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principle it is eternal unchanging and linked to the divine or metaphysical order
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ebola saw it as virile solar active element opposed as opposed to lunar the passive soul
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you can see a lot of mysticism in this guy it represents the capacity for transcendence heroic
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elevation aesthetic discipline and alignment with eternal truths in racial doctrine the racist spirit
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is transcendental and metaphysical the deepest unchanging essence that connects the primordial
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myth symbols to higher orders and then i asked about what was this hyperstatic state that he talked
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about independent of logical morality and this is from his metaphysics of the sex and it refers to
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an intensified heightened sensory or static condition a state of extremely sensitive intoxication
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or quote magnetic quote-unquote attraction that transcends the ordinary person it's like a feverish
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overwhelmingly erotic experience where the boundaries of self dissolve and he saw this as independent
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of logical morality meaning that the state arises spontaneously and inexibly without rational
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justification or ethical constraints it's not governed by logic or moral rules he describes it as the
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magnetism of love so basically just like whatever i do when i really want to have sex like when i'm
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really horny and in the throes of it is like definitively good and anyone who knows our wider framework
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would know how repellent we would find an idea like this right like this is clearly he wants to engage
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in something and so he's doing it he's he's defining it as good right rather than admitting that he is
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fallen like everyone else like we would say and people should know when we say like non-reproductive sex is
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sinful we mean it's sinful in the same way as masturbation is sinful or playing video games is sinful
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or reading books is sinful anything that's not actively contributing to your objective function whatever
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that may be i mean our religious framework holds that the thing of inherent value is promoting future
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human flourishing and creating eventually what becomes god but you can do you basically anything
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that doesn't contribute to that is sinful so if your if your objective function is to serve god anytime
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you're not serving god you're sinning if your objective function is to maximize happiness in your life
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anytime you're not investing in actively maximizing true happiness you're messing up which could even include
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doing things that on the face seem hedonically indulgent because you're not actually being made happy by them
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like just scrolling on your phone you're not actually happy typically when you're doing that so you would be
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sinning by doing that even if your objective function was happiness anyway that that's where we stand on that
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just to clarify and and i'll i'll i'll note here the bible does like this is not an anti-biblical
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perspective that specifically romans 14 23 but whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat because
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their eating is not from faith and everything that does not come from faith is sin or everything that
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is not for god is sin and so if you're if you're not doing it in the service of god it is sinful and so
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the question is what is in the service of god and is tantric sex in the service of god i think not
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but again this guy really hated christians so don't worry about it that was not something he
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was interested in aligning with so he was heavily influenced by tantra buddhism and hermeticism let's
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saw alchemy yoga and the left hand path rituals involving violence and sexuality as a path towards
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transcendence sexuality was a tool for harnessing dark powers not mere pleasure and aiming for a god man status
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god man hold on i want to hear about the violent thing yeah violence is too materialistic for this
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guy i don't know how could he have any relation to violence i think the things he wanted to do or
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that felt like manly to him i were were things that he was promoting okay anyway so rejection of
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christianity and modernity he like nietzsche or was it nietzsche who did the same one he rejected and
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dismissed christianity as slave morality promoting proletarian egalitarianism and he favored pre-christian
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paganism he saw modernity's forces of democracy capitalism and feminism as degenerative and he
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countered by inner heroic discipline and detachment now let's see what what were his thoughts on on
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violence because i find that interesting okay so he had something called the pancha macra or the five
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m's or forbidden things so this is the core ritual framework of the left hand tantra involving five
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elements starting with m in sanskrit and so it's stuff like alcohol meat fish grains sexual union so
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these performed in secret often at night in cremation grounds or secret rites to amplify transgressive
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power evola stressed that the goal was not for pleasure but using these acts as poisons that
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through discipline became nectar an alchemical reversal so he believed in like that jewish guy who
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we've gone over is like the actual antichrist so i do think is the actual antichrist i forgot his name
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the the guys who the jews thought was the messiah and converted to islam it was ball or something
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i want to say eliezer ben dov bal shim tav was who i was thinking of anyway he had this idea that you
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could like because we're living in the messianic age all of the rules are inverted and so you would
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do the things that the bible said not to do and they became now good and the things that the bible
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said to do became bad and you can see why if you go to our track on him why we would say he's literally
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an antichrist he literally did everything christ did in absolute inversion you know like born wealthy
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an academic very very well respected had a lot of followers was well loved within his life crowned
00:26:41.520
himself with a real crown instead of a crown of thorns you know this is a fun little inversion there
00:26:46.720
but i don't want to get too far on him right now because i i find him to be just a fascinating figure
00:26:50.560
but this seems to be the same thing so he thought that you would take in negative things and then
00:26:56.880
sort of like if you did it you know in a profane enough way these negative things would become
00:27:02.400
positive things and this is if you're wondering about like the type of mysticism that would have
00:27:07.920
hit the h-man and he would have believed this is the type of stuff he would have played this is this
00:27:12.400
is his world these were his influencers okay so what did he think of sexuality ebola devoted
00:27:19.360
significant attention to this viewing masina as a key to transcendence in left-hand rituals it could
00:27:24.720
involve prolonged non-ejaculatory union it to circulate sexual energy upwards through the chakras
00:27:31.760
he described techniques like asanras postures perona breast control and visualizations that
00:27:38.080
transform lust into divine ecstasy he differentiated profane sex modern sentimental or animalistic from
00:27:46.400
sacred arrows where the woman embodies sakita as the act dissolves individuality however critique
00:27:53.360
feminism and equality insisting on traditional gender roles for polarity to work
00:28:01.120
without initiation although he said that without initiation this led to demonic possession
00:28:06.320
and psychic vampirism no i never have i thought of demonic possession or psychic vampirism so positively
00:28:13.120
in my life anything no he didn't think it distances me from that which he describes as good no this is
00:28:19.520
this is this is what mystics always do they're like because i always point out like how mysticism
00:28:23.040
corrupts people's minds and anyone who's a sane person and looks around knows that the mystics look
00:28:27.520
like dirty crazy people that can barely hold their lives together right like everybody knows it they
00:28:32.240
look like meth addicts of religion right the ethics of religion so true and so what people will say is
00:28:39.440
they'll be like well you have to do it with like a higher mind which i have of course right you know so i'm
00:28:44.560
able to engage with it without corruption right and it's like emily i bet i bet you do i bet you
00:28:51.600
engage with it without corruption so uh what was i going to say about mysticism yeah so well this
00:28:58.320
actually matters a lot because this this is part of the problem is it's this sort of like internal
00:29:03.040
arrogance right that you can engage with things in a way that other people can't and i also wanted to
00:29:07.680
talk here a bit about because somebody asked us our views on this in one of the comments once so it's
00:29:11.680
worth talking a bit about is what we thought of semen retention as you know in some conservative
00:29:17.520
circles downstream of works like this this has picked up steam again and i think it is oh so
00:29:23.280
was he one of the guys who popularized this concept no i don't think so yeah i don't know there's like
00:29:28.880
such a big precedent like just that whole movement in the early 1900s in the united states whereby people
00:29:35.760
were told that they would go blind if they masturbated yeah basically our thoughts is you
00:29:40.400
should live whatever sexual lifestyle is attainable to you that will minimize the amount of time and
00:29:49.840
effort you put towards erotic endeavors um and and and if that involves sex with your partner or
00:29:59.120
masturbation or anything like that do it but if you can do that through just sheer you know
00:30:05.520
semen retention or whatever then do it that way right like it's a bit like saying you know i i
00:30:11.600
never played video games at all like would i get more distracted on other things and stuff like that
00:30:16.320
i think that with with a lot of things there are some people who can just completely raw dog it and
00:30:21.920
that they'll they'll be efficient and then there's other people where if they attempted something like
00:30:25.520
that they'd be thinking about sex all the time and that's not productive way to live your life
00:30:30.480
right so it's what's what's the productive way to engage with this stuff yeah sometimes attempting
00:30:35.520
to quit something will make you even more obsessed with it and then you spend more time on that thing
00:30:39.440
than you would have if you just indulged in moderation yeah like when you were anorexic you
00:30:43.760
tell me you used to all i ever thought of was food i mean when you're stuck because i mean i did the thing
00:30:48.320
i was very effective i was actually starving so actually all i could think of was food because i was
00:30:54.000
dying and you kind of do that when you're starving and i mean sure when you were at that camp and you
00:30:59.600
were starving eating like moss and stuff oh yeah i thought about food constantly all the time yeah
00:31:04.320
and i i imagine i i don't know what it's like for people who have a high sex drive and choose not to
00:31:08.960
masturbate but i could imagine that it could be like that i don't know but i could it could be and so
00:31:17.680
really like are you more effective now spending all your mental capacity trying not to do that yeah
00:31:25.760
but again this this could also change between populations like it might be easier for mormons
00:31:29.680
to do it because they've had this evolutionary pressure on them for so long but it depends and
00:31:34.720
you can't just say that it causes ego depletion for example because we've seen in studies that ego
00:31:39.440
depletion comes down to context there are some cultural contexts in which people believe that
00:31:44.960
ego depletion isn't it's it's the opposite like if you've had a hard day where you've had to make a
00:31:49.680
lot of decisions now is a really great time to make a tough decision because you've been warmed up
00:31:54.080
it's like warming up like okay i'm on a roll now let's do more hard things whereas in most western
00:32:00.640
cultures the concept of eco depletion is oh well i just had to make a lot of hard decisions today
00:32:05.760
now i'll only make bad decisions because i spent all my responsibility tokens so a lot of it comes down
00:32:11.280
to context too and i could see maybe a nofap context in which people are like well now because
00:32:16.800
i abstain from this and that i can be disciplined with all these other things as well and so i agree
00:32:22.400
that there's nuance here i just think that people need to be aware of how things are playing out with
00:32:27.120
them internally and hey is this producing a good outcome no well then let's change tag yeah and to to
00:32:33.600
the the question of do i think you like build spiritual powers by semen retention no absolutely not
00:32:39.760
that's insane because there are no spiritual powers you doofuses i can't i'm so annoyed
00:32:49.680
okay i'm glad he's dead keep going no no i mean i i yeah you're not like the racism stuff is terrible
00:32:58.000
you just hate the sex stuff no he like do racism right i mean if you're gonna be right like he can't
00:33:06.000
even racism right that that's my problem he can't do anything right so the the the no and i point out
00:33:12.000
it's not that you if if there are spiritual powers our wider belief if there are spiritual powers
00:33:17.200
they're universally negative like not things you should be messing around with not things you should
00:33:21.920
be playing with just do do not mess with them not even i i feel like if there are spiritual powers then
00:33:28.400
you're describing what people have always described as as magic or god's work which is really just
00:33:33.760
science or physics or whatever that we don't understand yet basically any technology or science
00:33:39.360
that we don't understand yet we we call magic so it's just something i have to materialistically
00:33:44.480
think no i'd agree with that i mean it's not material no well no then you're it doesn't exist
00:33:49.440
or i haven't discovered or wrapped my head around it yet and either way it is going to be materialistic
00:33:55.360
right so what she's saying and i think it's a very good point is that if we discover magic in the
00:34:02.000
future that you know we would build science around that magic right like we would have we would
00:34:07.600
understand the rules of it how it worked and we'd utilize it and integrate it with our daily lives
00:34:12.960
and so if there is a a any sort of mystical plane that people are accessing that mystical plane is part
00:34:20.080
of our reality and just part of science and if there is special abilities or powers that people are able
00:34:25.600
to access through that plane that means there's likely some sort of structural system was in that plane
00:34:30.000
that may be super advanced science or something like that but the point i was making wasn't that
00:34:33.920
point simone it's that at least from what i have seen people who attempt to access anything like that
00:34:41.120
plane always end up mentally corrupted and so what i'm saying is that if it exists if they are
00:34:47.440
encountering the science of magic on the other side of the veil of reality it is a corrupting force
00:34:54.080
for humanity rather than an uplifting force for humanity that's why i'm usually kind of like
00:34:59.280
almost autistic is i'm just being constantly why because lower entities will come in and violate your
00:35:05.680
free will they know all your they see right through you they will not manipulate your free will unless
00:35:11.200
you ask them in i have dude do not say that i'm gonna get killed i've 100 communicated with something
00:35:18.800
i'm not judging anybody i'm just saying be careful the question is whether that something was actually
00:35:23.120
in my imagination or in my mind or that something was something that takes place in another dimension
00:35:28.240
once you open that gate it's all bad why is it all bad why why can't you experience that
00:35:34.240
interdimensional being and learn something from it and be a better person because because every time
00:35:40.960
it gets control it starts murdering everybody they wind up killing everybody in every case it always
00:35:46.240
starts beautiful it always starts great problem is some of it makes sense that that's where the
00:35:50.080
psychosis comes in whoa it's going to create a giant societal crisis where most of the people are
00:35:55.200
already going to get killed because an evil force wants conflict so i'm saying no no no it's all chaos
00:36:00.640
stop it this is the nature of the beast but anyway to continue here i want to talk about violence
00:36:05.440
violence in left-hand tantra as per evola is more symbolic or ritualistic than literal physical harm
00:36:11.120
to others it ties into the quote-unquote fierce aspects of deities like kali who represent destruction
00:36:17.680
and illusions animal sacrifice bali some tantric texts describe offering animals eg goats in rituals
00:36:24.080
symbolizing the sacrifice of one's lower self evola mentioned this as a way to confront death and
00:36:30.640
impermanence but downplayed it as secondary to inner work warning against cruelty without metaphysical
00:36:36.800
purpose oh interesting so you can do it if you have metaphysical purpose he's like don't don't treat
00:36:41.760
it as a shortcut symbolic violence or aesthetic extremes practices like meditating in graveyards
00:36:48.800
oh this guy was so edgy uh sitting you alluded to earlier something about tantric sex in graveyards
00:36:55.760
sitting on corpses was one of his called a shava graveyards were a very a common first date or
00:37:03.600
second date location for you well yeah that was back when in the day when you're doing spicy and
00:37:08.480
i dated goth girls and come on you know me you know my type i did i liked my amelias okay the
00:37:14.320
conservative goth girl was a choker from the video game i'm gonna make her one of the things on the
00:37:18.240
reddit she was so your type yeah yeah come on god the other one saying this guy's just too gothy i
00:37:23.680
can't imagine like a 30 year old guy like going to a graveyard to sit on bodies it's like
00:37:29.440
meditation or self-mortification to break attachments alvaro linked this to his ideas
00:37:35.200
of heroism quote-unquote writing the tiger and facing chaos without being consumed but it sounds
00:37:40.640
like you were extremely consumed if there was like a chaos person and he's like i'm not sure
00:37:46.480
have i been consumed by the forces of the chaos gods i'd be like you you you are literally like
00:37:53.440
chanting with like a a pentagram inscribed on your forehead bleeding like i'm pretty sure
00:38:00.000
you're all the way there but anyway let's let's let's i wanted to go back to the broader worldview
00:38:09.440
so his worldview was profoundly anti-modern envisioning the cosmos is divided between
00:38:13.600
the solar masculine and the lunar feminine the the masculine was hierarchy and transcendence which is
00:38:18.640
good and the feminine which was bad with chaos egalitarianism and material materialism
00:38:25.360
humanity's purpose is upward self-transcendence towards the quote-unquote absolute individual
00:38:29.920
strong purposeful and free from cultural and material bonds achieved through heredity which
00:38:35.840
is interesting heredity is a big part of how this is achieved initiation and heroic action
00:38:40.720
so the elements were anti-galitarianism and a hierarchical society he saw a hierarchy as
00:38:49.680
cosmic and intrinsically good manifesting in in physical racial and social forms but rooted in
00:38:55.920
spirituality okay so when he walked down the street he was judging people's souls because he believed that
00:39:02.160
their souls were manifested in physical traits yeah so like things he saw as bad we're like democracy
00:39:08.240
mass rules we've talked about liberalism or individualism and socialism slash equality
00:39:14.000
where instead he favored organic empires and monarchies so again you can see how this ideology
00:39:19.200
influences some of like nick fointy there's something yeah this kind of feeling shows up in
00:39:25.680
bronze age mindset for example yes yeah in terms of misogyny and gender roles he saw women as inferior
00:39:32.480
and dependent on men suited only to be mothers or lovers feminism was a renunciation of femininity
00:39:39.520
and true order and why did he bonk one because he has no self-control i'm sure each one's probably
00:39:46.400
trying to convert the other you know and true order required patriarchal subjugation masculinity
00:39:52.160
meant hyper virile warrior ideas he was incredibly anti-semitic he saw he thought that jews
00:39:58.000
symbolized decadent modernity materialism and democracy uh justifying violence he supported
00:40:03.600
imperialism paganism and a european imperium as a hierarchical renewal viewing the u.s as epitomizing
00:40:11.920
chaos and i keep in mind when we look at our thinkers from well before this time period they
00:40:18.240
really love the u.s like when would read we have a do a series where i would like read some of the
00:40:22.480
the martyrdom of man on set stack fans who are paying or whatever like for patreon and he was
00:40:27.120
obsessed with america he thought america was the greatest place on earth and a model for how all
00:40:31.120
other countries should structure their societies yeah and you you literally cite him as basically
00:40:36.240
another form of profit in in our techno puritan materials and even kurt metziger although he said
00:40:41.840
he was a eugenicist which is just wrong he believed in genetics but he wasn't a eugenicist well
00:40:47.440
by many people's definition if you believe in genetics you're obviously a eugenicist so anyway
00:40:54.560
yeah but people picked up on that in later works evola advised quote-unquote riding the tiger using
00:41:00.320
modernity's destructive forces for personal transcendence rejecting collective politics for
00:41:05.600
individual detachment wait hold on explain to me again what riding the tiger means
00:41:18.400
so it means to like utilize the decadence and materialism of society as like a weight to train
00:41:26.880
your soul but then he did that through like sex which seems to be doing the opposite because again
00:41:34.640
as soon as you go to the mythological you can define anything however you want without any one you know
00:41:39.440
able to push back so i wanted to see the yes so sabino almero was a prominent 20th century italian
00:41:48.560
feminist and intellectual her 1906 autobiographical novel a woman is considered a landmark in italian
00:41:54.000
feminist literature detailing her rebellion against an abusive marriage societal constraints on women
00:42:01.200
and her pursuit of personal freedoms independence and sexual autonomy she was openly non-monogamous
00:42:06.080
involved in leftist and progressive circles and advocated for women's emancipation qualities that
00:42:12.160
aligned closely was what evola later condemned as feminist aberrations their relationship was
00:42:17.200
intense and stormy set against the backdrop of rome's esoteric scene evola was involved with
00:42:22.480
a group of the or an occult group and elmaro drew from it in 1927 novel a more i love therefore i am
00:42:30.720
where evola appears thinly veiled as a character bruno telgra portrayed in a somewhat resentful or
00:42:37.520
critical light accounts describe evola as charismatic and magnetic in his youth nicknamed the spider for
00:42:44.240
drawing women in but the affair ended partly because amara wasn't interested in monogamy and moved on to
00:42:50.960
other things including another figure from evola's circle gero parts so she didn't have a thing for like
00:42:57.440
incredible misogynist and yeah well because he he it seemed to come from his occult stuff that that is
00:43:07.360
basically the gist of it there were leftist occultists in and they were rightist occultists
00:43:11.360
and they hooked up together and thought sex gave them magic because of course they did of course yeah
00:43:17.440
i i i'm sure they were great for each other yeah yeah so i want to see what he thought about aesthetics
00:43:27.440
and the profane what his entire existence was profane what was profane to him yeah he's watching
00:43:36.160
profanity evola began his career as a painter in the datist and futurist movements around the 1915
00:43:50.400
i love you so much simone we are such a we're such a pair we're raggedy man
00:43:56.000
of course i thought that in my head but our audience has no idea what we're talking about
00:43:59.120
there except for if they do chime in in the comments and we'll know
00:44:13.680
so producing abstract works he described as inner landscapes expressing the spirit
00:44:18.480
with hermetic and esoteric references he was influenced by vastly kardaski's the spirit animal
00:44:24.800
seeking an inner spiritual dimension in abstraction rather than commercial or academic art by 1922 he
00:44:30.960
abandoned painting viewing avant-garde art as stifened by conventions and commercialized
00:44:36.240
preferring philosophy and esotericism for vola true aesthetics transcended the material aligning with
00:44:42.000
eternal truths and rejecting modern degenerate forms that lacked a connection to the transcendent or
00:44:50.640
all right next the profane okay so he sharply distinguished the sacred eternal transcendent
00:44:58.640
and hierarchical from the profane modern materialistic and meaningless oh oh that's profane
00:45:04.800
okay of course it is to him the profane represents the desecration of nature and the destruction of
00:45:11.840
the organic cosmic world view where everything reflects a higher meaning he criticized modernity
00:45:16.880
for inverting things turning the sacred into profane e.g applying sacramental indissolubility to ordinary
00:45:24.480
marriages sacramental interesting okay so he thought treating like a christian marriage as sacramental
00:45:32.720
indissolubility that was profane to him because it wasn't a super marriage which is whatever he
00:45:40.400
wanted it was it was normal and profane marriage he said he said that marriage and and this is true
00:45:46.480
to an extent so i can see what he meant by this he said that marriage had been degraded into a social
00:45:50.400
formality okay okay okay okay fine yes in love and society profane is everything not sacralized or
00:46:00.000
incorporated into a higher order leading to nihilism and detachment from tradition evola saw the profane
00:46:05.600
as a hallmark of the kali yuga where material appetites dominate so but he just redefined his material
00:46:12.240
appetites as being metaphysically nutritious yeah and our whole argument around marriage is that it's
00:46:20.000
insufficiently materialistic that it has lost its function as a strategic business life legacy building
00:46:29.680
institution and he's like no we need to make it all about tantric sex and indulgence and so yeah i guess
00:46:36.560
that's that just very different conclusions okay go on yeah well i'm not gonna go too deep into
00:46:46.720
the other stuff i think you get the broader idea i'm gonna have a stroke this is this is i'm so
00:46:51.760
deeply disturbed here's the gist of his worldview right um and and i the reason why i want to go into
00:46:57.520
it and how silly a lot of it is when you see it and how lame a lot of it is when you really get into it
00:47:03.120
is a lot of people who have only engaged with the parts of as you saw our episode on h guy right the
00:47:10.800
parts of h guys philosophies the fashionistas that freak out progressives right and get progressives
00:47:17.440
angry they hear it and they think oh that sounds really based and interesting right because they don't
00:47:24.000
know about it holistically and when they dive into it holistically they're like oh that's actually
00:47:30.000
profoundly stupid they hear about a guy who's known as a super fascist right who thought about
00:47:36.480
it sounds delightful but also i mean i think people especially in modern times and including the left
00:47:41.840
the anti-colonial leftists see fascism is extremely materialistic well right i mean he basically saw
00:47:52.800
hierarchy as in itself sacred is the way i put it that is that is where he's yeah but what is
00:48:00.800
hierarchy if it is not based on materialistic achievement i mean historically it was being
00:48:06.000
like you are literally the biggest strongest early hominid right and then you were the biggest strongest
00:48:12.720
early hominid who also had lots of sticks and lots of food and then it was lots of gold and then it was
00:48:20.000
it was it was it was the biggest and think about all the early leaders who were also like freakishly
00:48:26.400
tall and just die easily this is this is all materialism because it is really important to
00:48:36.640
highlight the point that you're making which is hierarchy has no meaning if it's not also materialist if
00:48:45.600
it is well if it's not observable like if whatever the hierarchy whatever you believe gives one group
00:48:54.320
an advantage over another group or one individual an advantage over another individual if that is not
00:48:59.840
something that is easily observable through how that individual interacts with the world or society through the
00:49:08.000
flourishing present produced by that individual or that culture or that group's interaction then the hierarchy is
00:49:14.320
completely non-meaningful and the the reality is that the reason why people like this guy instead
00:49:23.280
move towards the idea of spiritual hierarchies and i know there's not just spiritual hierarchies you see
00:49:29.120
this among mystics all the time when they're like well people like me who are more in tune with the
00:49:35.440
whatever right like they self-define a a form of hierarchy that they can only observe from their own
00:49:44.000
subjective reality so they they take this position because it allows them to always be at the top of the
00:49:50.880
hierarchy without having to objectively prove themselves in reality if you if you look at us
00:49:58.400
i am like within any individual hierarchy i am i am only so good as i provably am right i am only
00:50:09.920
you know as as an intellectual so good as smart people or the the the a large amount of smart people
00:50:17.920
follow me and care what i have to say and these are the people who are going to influence the direction
00:50:22.320
that society goes and so they take on my ideas and then they build whatever the next movement is around
00:50:29.360
my ideas like i when we point out now that we have one of the largest subreddits now
00:50:34.800
this subreddit is is i think probably larger into the weekly interaction because red is just larger now
00:50:39.600
than the red pill ever was right and so that means that if you go you know 10 years in the future and
00:50:46.000
we're able to keep this thing from getting banned which is why we need mods please reach out
00:50:49.360
10 years into the future our our there's going to be a generation of redditors conservative redditors
00:50:54.960
who were raised within this intellectual and aesthetic ecosystem and then come out and being
00:51:00.720
like oh it's it's the base camp intellectual ecosystem right like i i know that in the same
00:51:04.800
way that i would say this about the red pill right like simone and i were red pillars like when
00:51:10.720
we're critical of red pill i think people think we're being critical of something that we don't consider
00:51:15.040
ourselves still solidly within not even like former members i'm not somebody who's like bitter about
00:51:21.440
the red pill or anything like that i i think it made some mistakes and i think that it is you know
00:51:27.120
systemically teaches some things a bit wrong but i think it was a very important movement for society
00:51:32.800
to have and i think that it was a movement that we needed to go through to get to something like maga
00:51:38.480
or to get to the modern religious revival movements we're beginning to see that are not happening in a
00:51:43.040
traditional context but that's another episode uh as to why another reason why mysticism is is
00:51:50.400
really really bad is if what is fundamentally true about reality is subjective to the self if you get
00:51:58.080
in a disagreement with somebody and you have different perspectives about what is metaphysically
00:52:01.760
true like if i disagree with his perspective on these things he could just say well i i believe in my
00:52:10.240
subjective reality and because it's my subjective reality therefore you are wrong and if there are
00:52:15.760
people watching us and trying to determine what objective reality is objective reality becomes a
00:52:22.400
dominance competition or or popularity competition among mystic gurus which is well how they always end up
00:52:29.600
going so crazy and wackadoo right because there's no subjective way to call them out on well that's not true
00:52:35.200
right like objectively let me prove to you that is not true finally i i do understand this idea because
00:52:43.520
you're like where is his vitalism his vitalism is in the self-ownership that he preached to this idea
00:52:50.000
that you can cultivate your own spirit until you oh i heard that is self-owned which 100 he's a walking
00:52:58.240
self-owned but go on you mean like that he's just taken radical responsibility of himself like spiritually
00:53:05.600
or something go on but as you point out you're actually advocating all real responsibility for
00:53:13.280
yourself when you detach objective judgments about whether or not you are doing good things right like
00:53:20.320
whether or not you are moving in a good direction whether or not you are actually improving these are
00:53:24.800
objective things that can be measured and if you can't measure them now he'd just say well like
00:53:29.200
every day i'm riding the tiger through my tantric sex on corpses um but like and he'd be like no it is
00:53:34.880
hard for me to do i don't i don't like doing it and it's like then you're just making it weirder
00:53:54.480
man and i do like that bap called out this guy by the way i i went to margaret singer because his idea
00:54:01.360
sounded a lot you know when when you follow plan parenthood yeah like her ideas really well remember
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she thought different races had different soul qualities and the reason she wanted to stop abortions
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it's because she thought that there were only so many souls in pre-life and there were too many
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low quality souls being born and so we needed to stop people from having kids especially blacks in
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her mind see me the reason she wanted to make abortions more readily available is because there were
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low quality souls being being brought in pulling from the bottom of the barrel like oh man can't keep
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up the supply that's basically yes that's basically you're gonna toss in the gimp souls wow we were
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scraping from the bottom of like the metaphysical soul barrel and that society was running out of
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souls so we were only getting like the defective ones anymore defective souls wow yeah okay
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but no it is it is well these people aren't having kids so we can all just rest assured that this is
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all being slowly deleted well no the people whose ideologies are downstream of spiritualistic
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vitalism and this is this is the key thing he embodies spiritualistic vitalism and everyone
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i've ever known who has gone down the path of spiritualistic vitalism has had no kids if your
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vitalism is is not a form that is objectively observable in the real world and objectively
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causal on the real world you are going to eradicate yourself from the timeline and your people from
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the timeline and so many people when they hear vitalism they try to drift towards spiritual vitalism
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which i think is one of the worst poisons not just in modern society but in human history
00:55:53.520
and and we argue in other ones you can watch our video on witches and stuff like that that this
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is what is meant with the concept of a witch this i don't know we're we're super though like right
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now we're we are techno puritanist or sorry techno puritans that is our religion our religion is
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techno puritanism and right now we're we're leaning into our most active holiday which is is sort of a rough
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running month kind of based on different conditions called future day where we encourage our kids to think
00:56:20.960
about the far future and long-termism and to sort of learn how to lean into self-improvement and
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contributing to making the world and and long-term human flourishing a priority of them instead of just
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you know instant gratification i think we're talking about a lot is the subtle forces that draw you to
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not can make the world a better place to not improve yourself and we call that the basilisk it we
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personify it as like this evil force not well not evil per se but this malicious force that will
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drive you it's a culling force exactly and and so we we try to explain to our kids that it's just
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it's just it it's the same thing as god to us it's just it's it's god on days when he's
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removing the mentalization of like i was i was i was explaining it to our son octavian like this
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because he loves army men right now and like military everything and i'm like okay so look at
00:57:26.880
this green army man when he's on our side you know we we love him he's our friend right but what if we
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were the enemy would would we be afraid of him yes because we're the enemy and he's going to destroy us
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that is exactly what the basilisk is the basilisk is the guy on our side who is fighting for what we
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care about and you only need to be afraid of him if you are our enemy and his enemy he will come after
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the weakest and worst elements of you and so when i think about mysticism i see it from a techno puritan
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standpoint as a force ultimately of good of the basilisk in that it is systematically removing
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the weak-minded and indulgent of of humanity it is a test and if you fail the test you do not matter
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anymore and that's so i think this is a really interesting point that you're making here that
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i want to expand on a little bit specifically theologically speaking the the the the devil
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to us the basilisk synonyms right um is in in some forms of traditional christianity
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is something that only punishes bad people when bad people do bad things but if you look at the
00:58:37.120
devil that's actually in the bible that is not the devil's core role it is not to punish bad people
00:58:45.840
it is to test good people to make them better but punish them if they fall or fail the test so that
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they don't fail the test next time right or or or punish them so severely that they're no longer
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part of the community or part of the population or part of the gene pool right so many people see the
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the the devil as only which i've never understood right like okay so the devil is bad because the
00:59:12.720
devil punishes bad people well punishing bad people is good right yeah are you mad at the police for
00:59:19.120
arresting criminals you only hate the police if you're a criminal right the devil is bad because
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the devil tempts good people and i'm like but if good people are made stronger through temptation and
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better able to resist all of the temptations of life then isn't that does he punish them when they
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don't give into temptation no but he does punish them when they do give into temptation yes so
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like that doesn't seem like a uh a holistically and obviously this is where i think you know when
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you're reading the book of job or something like that people are like what why is god and the devil
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or two compartmentalizations of the divine having like a friendly conversation with each other and
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it's because the devil is not a holistically negative thing he was trying to show anyone can
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eventually be broken if he goes far enough and the point was made there and for all of us that
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know some people are just holistically made stronger through the tests that you give them
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and and and you know no he's given everything back at the end of that his wives and kids of course it
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doesn't matter to them right you know they they still died but their role in everything was still
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sort of played out the point being is he was not given the ability to punish him when he did not give
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into temptation right the the the punishment it can be part of the temptation or it can be a a uh
01:00:42.720
like a a punishment for giving into temptation uh but it is not punishment in and of itself
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anyway i think that's a really good point note here if you're like well he was an angel who rebelled
01:00:54.560
against god and waged some sort of like civil war in heaven which means that he couldn't have been
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a partition of god there is no reason to believe any of that if you don't believe revelations was
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canonical and i do not believe revelations was canonical and you can go into our track series
01:01:09.680
about why we think that and i think that this man is trash and i'm not gonna back down on that
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i will no i'm always open to having my mind changed guys tell me why this man was so great maybe i can i
01:01:24.000
i i love i love a good steel man i don't know so someone help me out here why why is this man not
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utter trash chime in love you guys and over and out i'm gonna go tear my eyes out
01:01:43.760
love you and by the way for people who wonder why we argue so fervently that
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the devil is a compartment isolation of the divine is because if you believe the devil is a completely
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separate supernatural entity then you are definitionally a polytheist you're you're just
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a trans polytheist you're a polytheist defining themselves as a closet a closeted self no they're
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just trans it's like a trans person who says i'm a woman i'm like you're you're you're definitionally
01:02:12.720
not a woman when they're like i'm a monotheist i'm like you're definitionally not a monotheist you
01:02:17.280
believe in two divine entities and then they're like well one entity is subservient to the other
01:02:21.920
entity it was created by the other entity and we point out that's actually really common in
01:02:25.360
polytheistic traditions that in in like the greek tradition or something there's still one god that
01:02:29.440
created all the other gods and the other gods are subservient you're just defining him as not a god
01:02:33.920
which is why i call it trans polytheism um which is done by some religions or some iterations of
01:02:40.320
christianity from our perspective because they know that they're not supposed to be polytheists and so
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they just define themselves as not polytheists without having to deal with the theological
01:02:49.440
implications of believing in multiple supernatural divine entities thank you
01:02:57.440
there are track threes if you want to know more simone i got you the update on the site done today
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thank you with the new feature so it's easy to share individual scenarios now from our fab.ai which i'm
01:03:12.640
excited about and i mean even though we're working on stuff like this is a sign of how stable everything
01:03:17.360
else is i've been working on making sure that you can cross platform load up your scenarios because
01:03:22.480
some people are having issues with that and i am don't really need reddit mods from people who are
01:03:29.840
like in our community and known that can't be complete randos so if you're interested let us know because
01:03:35.920
the subreddit now is the largest in terms of like active usership conservative subreddit bigger than
01:03:41.760
joe rogan so we gotta well deleted yeah this is just conservative stuff and
01:03:52.160
molder's most forbidden investigation tunnels molder why would there be tunnels beneath the
01:03:58.160
synagogue scully i don't think we should be here i don't think we should be asking these questions
01:04:03.760
was that our conservative or base camp it's base camp okay that checks out
01:04:17.360
there's an austria then big buff the doge and it says we shall stop the turkish expand expansion
01:04:23.600
and protect europe and then austria now a little dog austrian president is asking all women to wear
01:04:28.640
a hijab in solidarity with muslims to fight rampant islamophobia did that actually happen
01:04:38.240
that's amazing i bet that did happen but that's it's both hard to believe but why would someone
01:04:44.160
say it if it didn't happen but i'm too tired to look it up right now we're not going to cover it so
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anyway so very very fun and yeah and and today's episode is going to be an interesting one for me
01:04:57.920
because i don't know that much about this guy like i'm i just started studying him today and i was
01:05:03.120
working today so you know i got as much in as i could in terms of understanding this new philosophical
01:05:09.440
framework and i wanted to share it with you guys and talk through it because i think it's interesting
01:05:13.520
i'm excited but i'm not an an expert by any means on this stuff i i generally do not like philosophers
01:05:21.520
oh is that what he is he's not just some kind of yeah he's a philosopher
01:05:28.240
or a like a theorist of like world frameworks and stuff like that who put him on your radar
01:05:34.720
actually ai put him on my radar really oh yeah i was trying to learn about the sort of ancestral
01:05:41.840
roots as some of the new strains in the new right and it's specifically like bats ideology yeah and
01:05:47.360
it pointed him as like the predecessor of some of these and another big following i never did a
01:05:53.520
piece saying that he loved by the new right you know and that he's like a big philosopher well you'll
01:05:58.880
you'll understand you'll see where he's coming from and we'll talk about where we agree and disagree
01:06:03.200
okay do you hear that andy come with me come with me okay okay who's gonna go first
01:06:17.920
okay go go go hold on tight to the rails did you hear something
01:06:59.360
hey guys look at all these toys oh future debris look whoa andy look at that it's a train set
01:07:15.760
oh my place oh my gosh i know i know i'm sure to breathe whoa
01:07:45.760
what is it what is it what is it what is it what what is it what is it
01:07:55.360
i know this is for me no look it's it's octavian's helicopter toasty that means that that must be
01:08:01.760
toasty's octavian it's a mermaid it's a mermaid doll just what you asked for yeah
01:08:08.320
toasty that's that's octavian's helicopter and look at that toasty look what's this
01:08:25.840
i did not actually i did not know that was wrong so i opened it
01:08:30.720
indy that must mean that this is for you girl indy look what's this
01:08:37.360
look he puts tape here what is in there he puts tape we made it tell dad look indy what's this
01:08:49.760
so many presents look at that a beautiful train set and toasty show me what did you get what did you
01:08:57.600
look at what do you see oh what is it what is it what is it