Based Camp - Julius Evola & Super Fascism： The Bizarre Ideology Making A Resurgence

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about

00:00:04.680 the philosophical ideas of a man who hated the nazis because he thought they were too woke

00:00:12.500 and weren't nearly racist enough for his standards this is a man called julius evola so so actually

00:00:19.200 he calls himself a super fascist he he didn't actually hate the not he he criticized him over

00:00:25.320 that but he thought that what they were doing broadly aligned with his ideology which was a

00:00:30.940 very interesting world perspective and i i wanted to talk about it because i was looking at and trying

00:00:38.720 to understand where some of the new vitalistic philosophies got their world framing from

00:00:44.700 for example the philosophy of bap or bronze age pervert who by the way is explicitly said to his

00:00:50.160 followers don't read this guy directly it's all philosophical what is it like mystical hoodoo

00:00:54.340 but he'll occasionally read things that this guy has written is like a sort of vibing and when you

00:01:00.480 when you see this guy's ideal you'll be like oh i can see where the framework presented by a bronze age

00:01:07.920 pervert or by a man's world or something like that may have come in part from this guy's ideology he

00:01:17.140 was around during the period of world war ii so you understand he was in italy he's an italian i know i

00:01:23.680 know terrible is he still alive he was alive until the 1970s but he's not he's not an actively

00:01:30.540 publishing substack author he he's an actual philosopher who wrote stuff in history born in

00:01:37.580 the 1800s yes pre-internet okay okay okay okay okay gotcha so like philosopher philosopher guy

00:01:42.720 and his ideas if you strip out the the racism and everything like that of his ideas because there's a lot

00:01:49.500 of racism it was interesting he believed that different ethnic groups had different qualities

00:01:56.080 like there was like a hierarchy of soul quality between ethnic groups but that you could work

00:02:03.080 so that you your goal was to always improve your soul quality right like like how we believe a person's

00:02:09.360 life's goal is so he wasn't an hbd dude he was a like soul like metaphysically different groups

00:02:16.620 were different yeah that's why he didn't like the nazis because he said so that was his big

00:02:23.360 disagreement with him he was like well you know they're they're being too like materialistic oh my

00:02:28.600 god it's like don't look at the genetics you have to you have to look at their auras i'm so he thought

00:02:36.760 he thought that you could like work out your soul enough he's like a soul on what grounds was he

00:02:42.420 evaluating their souls we will talk about it but he thought that you could work it out enough

00:02:47.120 that you could get your soul into like another ethnic group of souls so like you you could have

00:02:54.020 an arian soul even if you weren't arian and if you were arian but like you were too materialistic 1.00

00:02:58.760 that's kind of hindered right i mean like i guess you could die and be reincarnated reincarnated in a

00:03:03.820 different level oh yeah he was heavily influenced by buddhist theology okay okay okay okay okay okay his whole

00:03:10.280 world perspective was much more closely tied to buddhism than it was to christianity wow although

00:03:17.660 although what he would have called himself is not christian or buddhist he believed he was trying to

00:03:23.120 revitalize the pagan world of the ancient greeks and romans and he thought that was like the correct 0.99

00:03:29.600 way to practice religion but you you can get an idea of like where that fits with something like

00:03:35.780 that and all the greek and roman statues and everything like that right i'm so intrigued now

00:03:42.880 because this is already so unhinged i mean it's hindu but make it idolize ancient greece and 0.72

00:03:50.140 make it racist and all these insane things the nazis got it wrong because they weren't looking at souls

00:03:59.840 they weren't looking at souls they were they were just being too woke about this whole thing

00:04:04.340 it's so it's so weirdly insulting like i i i i don't even know where to start wrapping my head

00:04:11.780 around this okay okay i mean i guess it's kind of like the the whole mormon thing of like well if you

00:04:17.960 were until they decided that they were wrong about this like well if you're born black that means you

00:04:23.220 know if you're not white and delightsome you did something wrong well i can't remember that was

00:04:27.360 something along those lines right yeah so well it means your soul i think it was that you didn't

00:04:32.260 actively join jesus when satan revolted against jesus in sort of pre-life when they had the big

00:04:39.440 soul battle and so they had the soul battle and the souls that join jesus they are born as white people 0.93

00:04:46.340 and the souls that were neutral in the battle are the ones that became dark-skinned people the draft 0.75

00:04:52.880 dodgers how dare you yes yeah so it's like that i guess kind of but not it's much more hindu sounding

00:05:01.100 this is just so intriguing okay so i'll first do an overview of his philosophy then we'll go into a

00:05:06.740 little bit of his writings and then we'll go into some like interesting unique points of it okay all

00:05:11.120 right so his philosophy is often termed magical idealism or transcendental realism and it posits a

00:05:17.740 dualistic ontology a natural material world contrasted with a primordial eternal being

00:05:22.580 forming a hierarchical chain from the divine to the profane he rejected discussive knowledge in favor of

00:05:29.820 spiro-rational intuition viewing the self as capable of creating reality and achieving unity with the

00:05:36.840 absolute through self-divination essentially constructing divinity rather than submitting to a

00:05:42.720 personal god so this is like the quaker kind of thing we're like if i feel it then it's real

00:05:48.080 am i reading that right not exactly so quakers still believe that there's like an external god to them

00:05:54.420 that's talking to them he believed that you built god sort of through honing your internal

00:06:02.460 metaphysical powers or spirit or the power of wishy thinking yeah yeah the power of wishy thinking

00:06:10.080 now if you if you look at it from our perspectives this is interesting because it has

00:06:14.060 some parallels to our beliefs where we also believe that god is something that is built but we believe

00:06:20.500 he's built through materialistic process of self-improvement improvement of humanity intergenerational

00:06:26.080 improvement whereas he sees it god as being built by a a a single generation's cultivation of the soul

00:06:35.580 so like your your individual cultivation of the soul within yourself and he believed that we were

00:06:43.660 currently living in kali yuga so you can see already like heavily influenced by hindu ideology there so

00:06:49.120 it's also hindu i should know vola viewed history as uh involution or decline through four ages was the

00:06:56.440 current kali yuga dark ages marked by chaos vice and the triumphs of the masses over the elites he 0.69

00:07:02.440 rejected the linear progress or darwinian evolution as regressive myths advocating a return to a

00:07:08.640 primordial golden age through spiritual renewal paleogenesis so okay so there there's the oh

00:07:13.980 paleogenesis so that's the bad thing that's that's maybe where we're like yeah this revival of some

00:07:20.620 idealized ancient age well he thought that like society should be structured in a way where you have

00:07:26.800 the people with the better souls they're like the elite souls ruling over the naturally and obviously

00:07:33.760 inferior general population and and what he hated about the modern world sort of democracy and all of

00:07:42.040 that is that the the inferior the masses had control over the superior the the leadership cast

00:07:50.380 right and why this is interesting to me is you can see this very philosophical belief mirrored in say

00:07:59.580 somebody like nick fointas's ideology right that there is there is profanity in the concept that

00:08:05.800 the masses would have control over you know like like nick fointas is very critical of democracy more

00:08:10.880 broadly now we are we are fairly critical of democracy ourselves and we always point out that the reason you

00:08:16.380 have democracy like the point of democracy is not to source the opinion of the masses it's to put

00:08:23.260 competent people in positions of power and remove them when they are abusing those positions of power

00:08:29.880 right that's that's the core reason you need a democratic system i mean ideally you would just have

00:08:36.040 a society that chose whoever was the the smartest and most altruistic and most level-headed into the

00:08:42.380 best metaphysical understanding of reality and put them in a position of power right

00:08:45.700 and we just think that that right now democracy is not it's it's not good at doing that but there's

00:08:52.060 few other better systems right now other than the ones that we've outlined but a lot of the ones that

00:08:57.180 the people like him want to see in power is they're just like naturally somehow the people with the

00:09:02.680 better souls are going to be born into these positions like if you put if you concentrated power

00:09:07.940 in a few individuals and then they started surrounding themselves with cronies and stuff like that which

00:09:13.080 they often sort of have to do because if they're not you know giving the corruption to the cronies

00:09:18.360 the power they have to overthrow them right and so then they start surrounding themselves with

00:09:21.840 incompetent people so that they have less of a possibility of overthrowing them and so somebody

00:09:25.580 else can't overthrow them as easily and then you get all the the corruption and everything like that

00:09:29.300 that leads to the failed state which you have in a situation like iran right like that's that's how you

00:09:35.440 get that even if you are sorting for the most spiritual was in your community which is what

00:09:39.880 they were when they were setting up the ayatollah and the the council that served under him was in

00:09:44.860 iran like these were considered the most devout people which we discussed yesterday is what like

00:09:49.660 an ideology of like nick fuentes would want to do in society but just with a different religion that

00:09:54.460 that still corrupts incredibly quickly and like spirals out of control incredibly quickly and then you get a

00:09:59.360 lot of government graft and we've pointed out like iran's water situation is caused by the

00:10:02.500 corruption that happened because of the way this was structured you always get lots of corruption when

00:10:07.400 you centralize power in this way now this might be something that can be addressed with ai but like

00:10:11.100 that's why that's generally a bad idea but i i do agree that there is something profane about a society

00:10:18.780 in which the masses have control of or influence over people who well i wouldn't say they have better

00:10:28.060 souls or anything like that because that's not a concept that we believe in you can look at our track

00:10:31.940 series on this we would say that there there are people who seem to patently you know work harder

00:10:37.580 on defining their world frameworks or metaphysical frameworks seem to have a better work ethic seem to

00:10:43.680 be more agentic and that these individuals if they had more power in society would would likely make 0.92

00:10:51.220 society a better place but to continue here he believed in a spiritual racist hierarchy he divided

00:10:59.000 spiritual racism i i do i'm delighted to be introduced to this as a new concept the concept

00:11:04.800 of spiritual racism yeah so the the interesting thing about him is so you might think oh well you

00:11:12.080 know he's looking at like the the the nazis and he's saying well you know you just think it's the body and

00:11:17.760 i think it's the soul no no no he thought everyone was three things and the body was the least important

00:11:22.360 okay the other two were the soul and the spirit and the spirit was the most important wait so the soul

00:11:28.340 the soul and the spirit are separate things how are they separate uh the soul is sentience but i can

00:11:34.480 look this up right now okay i'm also curious if you have found in your research of him some explanation

00:11:41.620 as to how he could tell

00:11:47.120 if someone had a good soul or a not good soul if that makes sense right like i mean the the the

00:11:56.160 materialistic racists right they could just look at someone and and fairly quickly know

00:12:01.120 oh i like this person or i don't like this person but this guy's walking down the street he can't just

00:12:08.120 look at someone and be like bad soul good soul like how do you even be a soul racist when you

00:12:15.460 can't unless you like read auras and auras were a reflection of people's soul and could see them

00:12:21.000 somehow or like you could yeah i want to understand this well

00:12:26.160 he really hated materialism or focus on like the material world and as such he saw anything that was

00:12:37.120 tied to that either like economic materialism or science or other forms of that type of materialistic

00:12:44.000 exploration of reality as inherently corrupting so he'd hate us and he really didn't like the jews

00:12:51.040 either so he saw that as like a an example of of badness note about him he died without kids as

00:12:58.700 people like this always do yeah we point out that when you get into mysticism it begins to break down a

00:13:03.360 lot of other systems and you typically don't achieve what actually matters in life like he was

00:13:07.500 trying to vitalism max in a way but in this weird doomerous way that would have never worked

00:13:12.120 i'm i fail to see the vitalism what is vitalism if you don't produce anything materially

00:13:19.380 he called life is like riding the tiger well that's the thing and this is why we i i complain about

00:13:24.880 mysticism and and this focus on like the soul and everything like that so much it's because it

00:13:29.860 allows you to say well i'm improving this this thing that like no third party can you know evaluate

00:13:36.800 or make a judgment on and because no third party can make a judgment on the thing that he's building

00:13:43.600 of himself you know he can just always be like oh yeah i might be which he became a permit who lived

00:13:50.080 alone and didn't like go outside much or talk to outsiders but he was working on his spirit right you

00:13:55.340 know how very vitalistic it allows you to well he'd say i'm spending all day he called it riding

00:14:00.620 the tiger like oh yes modernity in this this horrible world he at one point by the way had a

00:14:06.320 a tryst with a famous feminist in italy which i think is funny but i'll get to his views on sex

00:14:12.180 because that was one of the things i wanted to hear yeah let's do he wrote a book called the

00:14:17.000 metaphysics of sex also called eris and the mysteries of love where he views sex as a metaphysical

00:14:23.080 force beyond biology reproduction or mere pleasure he rejects evolutionary or feridian explorations

00:14:28.560 seeing eros as a path to unity and transcendence overcoming ego boundaries through ecstatic

00:14:33.960 intoxication sex can be profane carnal and instinctual or sacred ritualistic leading to

00:14:40.740 spiritual ecstasy no tartra taoism no like the hermaphrodite no he described he describes a

00:14:49.920 magnetism of love as an inexplicable hyper aesthetic state of independent of logic and morality potentially

00:14:58.000 activating cosmic energies avola discusses practices like tantric sec for transmutation

00:15:03.960 e.g controlling ejaculation but warns of the dangers when not grounded in discipline he critiques modernity

00:15:11.120 for reducing sex to consumption or sentiment advocating its elevation to a mystery aligning with

00:15:18.060 traditional hierarchies including gender polarities male as active and female as passive gayness and

00:15:24.880 other forms are addressed ambivalently sometimes as passed to unity but often within his hierarchical

00:15:30.920 framework i can't i don't have the range necessary in my eye sockets to roll my eyes enough for what

00:15:40.800 you just recounted to me i am i am disgusted by i think what's the most insulting is that he put a lot

00:15:49.320 of thought into something that absolutely means nothing there is no such thing as love as he believes in

00:15:55.640 it there is no such this this transport he is literally just deluding himself into thinking he did

00:16:01.320 something with his life and he did nothing with his life aside from apparently potentially influence

00:16:06.900 a couple of i mean i don't know what's the legacy that bap is going to leave behind i i don't know

00:16:13.480 we'll get to that yeah because i mean i don't think it's just bap i think as people have looked

00:16:17.360 for vitalism this is one of the sort of types of vitalism they've looked for when you look for

00:16:22.500 and vitalism is america's manifest destiny vital vitalism is is is materialism incarnate i i can't

00:16:29.640 understand that yeah you've kind of blown my mind that someone could be seen as vitalistic and not

00:16:35.920 materialistic well there's a form and this this is why we're discussing this guy okay i think he

00:16:40.280 represents a perfect inversion of what we would want to see realized in the world yeah because his

00:16:47.560 vitalism is entirely tied to the concept of the the the what's the word i'm looking for here the

00:16:56.660 mystical stuff is not real and we believe in stuff yeah you can't objectively get any judgment on right

00:17:03.600 it's it's non-predictive of reality and as such and we we always warn about the dangers of mysticism

00:17:09.040 whenever we don't we haven't done a religious stuff in a while but like it is it is so toxic and i think

00:17:13.180 some people when they look for vitalism they are drawn to looking for it in mysticism and and you

00:17:20.380 know we see we see people going down this an example of a friend of ours who's going on this path

00:17:23.940 is ruby art and i think that he bounced back from that hasn't he bounced back from that i still think

00:17:29.780 that mysticism is a key part of his world framework and i think that that we need to look at what ends

00:17:36.320 up happening to you in life if you try to draw vitality through mysticism or magic or the supernatural

00:17:44.880 or other forms of what i would see negative negative things in the past we would have said this was a

00:17:51.400 witch or a you know but but in in the modern times no he's not even a witch i wish he were a witch but

00:17:58.580 witches make spells and hex people and kill people and and cure people they do stuff materialistically 0.98

00:18:08.380 god bless witches compared to him he can't even all he can do is manage tantric sex with a feminist 1.00

00:18:15.100 are you kidding me i'm just you have no idea how much that disgusts us this idea that he

00:18:21.300 thought that you were like getting anything look and and the idea that he's like well there's like

00:18:26.080 carnal sex and then there's ritualistic sex what is what is a bigger waste of time the only version of

00:18:33.240 we say is not a sin it is procreative sex just period and and if we have non-procreative sex we get

00:18:40.180 that like it's fine but it's also a sin and he he can't even manage just like enjoying carnal sex he's

00:18:47.380 like no i have to i have to pretend that it's something more i just kind of probably just to

00:18:53.080 satisfy himself to think that he's some kind of intellectual and he tricked enough people

00:18:57.900 apparently again simone and this is important this is actually for this man how did how was he allowed

00:19:03.920 to do this so suppose that you have a belief in the mysticism like the the core point is sort of

00:19:12.660 culturating the mystical forces within yourself right like the the soul the spirit everything

00:19:17.260 like that right all of the things that you cannot subjectively judge touch look at the development of

00:19:22.760 and now you need to make judgments about something like is sex bad right and so you look at it and

00:19:30.340 your internal psychology is going to be heavily influenced by your biology that wants you to have sex 0.65

00:19:36.480 right and so you allow that to corrupt you because you have no subjective way of knowing whether sex

00:19:43.160 is bad or good in in your framework because your entire framework is based off of mysticism and feels

00:19:48.720 so you of course say well yeah of course it feels good to me and i'm able to do it in a in a way that that

00:19:56.840 that follows some other parts of my tradition like that is ritualistic and disciplined in some way

00:20:01.060 so it's like good in elevating i mean then you're you're able to use that which i'm sure he did

00:20:05.880 to try to get people to sleep with him right like that's that's what these people always do right

00:20:09.500 but i wanted to go to your earlier question about the difference between the soul and the spirit

00:20:14.100 yes please good so he often translates soul as psyche or mind it encompasses emotions instincts

00:20:22.880 character temperament subjective experiences and psychological patterns

00:20:26.200 he fully described it as the subtle body or formative forces between purely physical and

00:20:31.440 purely spiritual it is contingent changeable and tied to individual personality cultural influences

00:20:36.340 and even environmental factors there's a materialistic basis for all of these things as i imagine he knew

00:20:42.060 yeah and then the spirit as he saw he this was the highest it was supra rational transcendent

00:20:49.300 principle it is eternal unchanging and linked to the divine or metaphysical order

00:20:53.280 ebola saw it as virile solar active element opposed as opposed to lunar the passive soul

00:20:59.700 you can see a lot of mysticism in this guy it represents the capacity for transcendence heroic

00:21:05.360 elevation aesthetic discipline and alignment with eternal truths in racial doctrine the racist spirit

00:21:11.360 is transcendental and metaphysical the deepest unchanging essence that connects the primordial

00:21:16.760 myth symbols to higher orders and then i asked about what was this hyperstatic state that he talked

00:21:21.960 about independent of logical morality and this is from his metaphysics of the sex and it refers to

00:21:27.640 an intensified heightened sensory or static condition a state of extremely sensitive intoxication

00:21:33.080 or quote magnetic quote-unquote attraction that transcends the ordinary person it's like a feverish

00:21:39.160 overwhelmingly erotic experience where the boundaries of self dissolve and he saw this as independent

00:21:44.660 of logical morality meaning that the state arises spontaneously and inexibly without rational

00:21:50.140 justification or ethical constraints it's not governed by logic or moral rules he describes it as the

00:21:56.160 magnetism of love so basically just like whatever i do when i really want to have sex like when i'm

00:22:00.920 really horny and in the throes of it is like definitively good and anyone who knows our wider framework

00:22:05.980 would know how repellent we would find an idea like this right like this is clearly he wants to engage

00:22:11.820 in something and so he's doing it he's he's defining it as good right rather than admitting that he is

00:22:21.100 fallen like everyone else like we would say and people should know when we say like non-reproductive sex is

00:22:26.100 sinful we mean it's sinful in the same way as masturbation is sinful or playing video games is sinful

00:22:31.500 or reading books is sinful anything that's not actively contributing to your objective function whatever

00:22:39.520 that may be i mean our religious framework holds that the thing of inherent value is promoting future

00:22:45.920 human flourishing and creating eventually what becomes god but you can do you basically anything

00:22:53.200 that doesn't contribute to that is sinful so if your if your objective function is to serve god anytime

00:23:00.320 you're not serving god you're sinning if your objective function is to maximize happiness in your life

00:23:05.840 anytime you're not investing in actively maximizing true happiness you're messing up which could even include

00:23:11.760 doing things that on the face seem hedonically indulgent because you're not actually being made happy by them

00:23:18.480 like just scrolling on your phone you're not actually happy typically when you're doing that so you would be

00:23:24.320 sinning by doing that even if your objective function was happiness anyway that that's where we stand on that

00:23:29.040 just to clarify and and i'll i'll i'll note here the bible does like this is not an anti-biblical

00:23:35.920 perspective that specifically romans 14 23 but whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat because

00:23:42.880 their eating is not from faith and everything that does not come from faith is sin or everything that

00:23:48.400 is not for god is sin and so if you're if you're not doing it in the service of god it is sinful and so

00:23:54.240 the question is what is in the service of god and is tantric sex in the service of god i think not

00:23:59.520 but again this guy really hated christians so don't worry about it that was not something he

00:24:03.040 was interested in aligning with so he was heavily influenced by tantra buddhism and hermeticism let's

00:24:09.440 saw alchemy yoga and the left hand path rituals involving violence and sexuality as a path towards

00:24:14.800 transcendence sexuality was a tool for harnessing dark powers not mere pleasure and aiming for a god man status

00:24:22.400 god man hold on i want to hear about the violent thing yeah violence is too materialistic for this

00:24:29.280 guy i don't know how could he have any relation to violence i think the things he wanted to do or

00:24:35.200 that felt like manly to him i were were things that he was promoting okay anyway so rejection of

00:24:39.920 christianity and modernity he like nietzsche or was it nietzsche who did the same one he rejected and

00:24:49.040 dismissed christianity as slave morality promoting proletarian egalitarianism and he favored pre-christian

00:24:55.760 paganism he saw modernity's forces of democracy capitalism and feminism as degenerative and he

00:25:03.040 countered by inner heroic discipline and detachment now let's see what what were his thoughts on on

00:25:09.280 violence because i find that interesting okay so he had something called the pancha macra or the five

00:25:15.040 m's or forbidden things so this is the core ritual framework of the left hand tantra involving five

00:25:21.680 elements starting with m in sanskrit and so it's stuff like alcohol meat fish grains sexual union so

00:25:31.920 these performed in secret often at night in cremation grounds or secret rites to amplify transgressive

00:25:38.320 power evola stressed that the goal was not for pleasure but using these acts as poisons that

00:25:44.960 through discipline became nectar an alchemical reversal so he believed in like that jewish guy who 0.99

00:25:51.680 we've gone over is like the actual antichrist so i do think is the actual antichrist i forgot his name

00:25:56.640 the the guys who the jews thought was the messiah and converted to islam it was ball or something 0.65

00:26:02.640 i want to say eliezer ben dov bal shim tav was who i was thinking of anyway he had this idea that you

00:26:09.840 could like because we're living in the messianic age all of the rules are inverted and so you would

00:26:16.000 do the things that the bible said not to do and they became now good and the things that the bible

00:26:22.720 said to do became bad and you can see why if you go to our track on him why we would say he's literally

00:26:28.640 an antichrist he literally did everything christ did in absolute inversion you know like born wealthy

00:26:35.200 an academic very very well respected had a lot of followers was well loved within his life crowned

00:26:41.520 himself with a real crown instead of a crown of thorns you know this is a fun little inversion there

00:26:46.720 but i don't want to get too far on him right now because i i find him to be just a fascinating figure

00:26:50.560 but this seems to be the same thing so he thought that you would take in negative things and then

00:26:56.880 sort of like if you did it you know in a profane enough way these negative things would become

00:27:02.400 positive things and this is if you're wondering about like the type of mysticism that would have

00:27:07.920 hit the h-man and he would have believed this is the type of stuff he would have played this is this

00:27:12.400 is his world these were his influencers okay so what did he think of sexuality ebola devoted

00:27:19.360 significant attention to this viewing masina as a key to transcendence in left-hand rituals it could

00:27:24.720 involve prolonged non-ejaculatory union it to circulate sexual energy upwards through the chakras 0.86

00:27:31.760 he described techniques like asanras postures perona breast control and visualizations that

00:27:38.080 transform lust into divine ecstasy he differentiated profane sex modern sentimental or animalistic from

00:27:46.400 sacred arrows where the woman embodies sakita as the act dissolves individuality however critique

00:27:53.360 feminism and equality insisting on traditional gender roles for polarity to work 1.00

00:28:01.120 without initiation although he said that without initiation this led to demonic possession

00:28:06.320 and psychic vampirism no i never have i thought of demonic possession or psychic vampirism so positively

00:28:13.120 in my life anything no he didn't think it distances me from that which he describes as good no this is

00:28:19.520 this is this is what mystics always do they're like because i always point out like how mysticism

00:28:23.040 corrupts people's minds and anyone who's a sane person and looks around knows that the mystics look 0.51

00:28:27.520 like dirty crazy people that can barely hold their lives together right like everybody knows it they

00:28:32.240 look like meth addicts of religion right the ethics of religion so true and so what people will say is 0.68

00:28:39.440 they'll be like well you have to do it with like a higher mind which i have of course right you know so i'm

00:28:44.560 able to engage with it without corruption right and it's like emily i bet i bet you do i bet you

00:28:51.600 engage with it without corruption so uh what was i going to say about mysticism yeah so well this

00:28:58.320 actually matters a lot because this this is part of the problem is it's this sort of like internal

00:29:03.040 arrogance right that you can engage with things in a way that other people can't and i also wanted to

00:29:07.680 talk here a bit about because somebody asked us our views on this in one of the comments once so it's

00:29:11.680 worth talking a bit about is what we thought of semen retention as you know in some conservative

00:29:17.520 circles downstream of works like this this has picked up steam again and i think it is oh so

00:29:23.280 was he one of the guys who popularized this concept no i don't think so yeah i don't know there's like

00:29:28.880 such a big precedent like just that whole movement in the early 1900s in the united states whereby people

00:29:35.760 were told that they would go blind if they masturbated yeah basically our thoughts is you 0.56

00:29:40.400 should live whatever sexual lifestyle is attainable to you that will minimize the amount of time and

00:29:49.840 effort you put towards erotic endeavors um and and and if that involves sex with your partner or

00:29:59.120 masturbation or anything like that do it but if you can do that through just sheer you know

00:30:05.520 semen retention or whatever then do it that way right like it's a bit like saying you know i i

00:30:11.600 never played video games at all like would i get more distracted on other things and stuff like that

00:30:16.320 i think that with with a lot of things there are some people who can just completely raw dog it and

00:30:21.920 that they'll they'll be efficient and then there's other people where if they attempted something like

00:30:25.520 that they'd be thinking about sex all the time and that's not productive way to live your life

00:30:30.480 right so it's what's what's the productive way to engage with this stuff yeah sometimes attempting

00:30:35.520 to quit something will make you even more obsessed with it and then you spend more time on that thing

00:30:39.440 than you would have if you just indulged in moderation yeah like when you were anorexic you

00:30:43.760 tell me you used to all i ever thought of was food i mean when you're stuck because i mean i did the thing

00:30:48.320 i was very effective i was actually starving so actually all i could think of was food because i was

00:30:54.000 dying and you kind of do that when you're starving and i mean sure when you were at that camp and you

00:30:59.600 were starving eating like moss and stuff oh yeah i thought about food constantly all the time yeah

00:31:04.320 and i i imagine i i don't know what it's like for people who have a high sex drive and choose not to

00:31:08.960 masturbate but i could imagine that it could be like that i don't know but i could it could be and so

00:31:17.680 really like are you more effective now spending all your mental capacity trying not to do that yeah

00:31:25.760 but again this this could also change between populations like it might be easier for mormons

00:31:29.680 to do it because they've had this evolutionary pressure on them for so long but it depends and

00:31:34.720 you can't just say that it causes ego depletion for example because we've seen in studies that ego

00:31:39.440 depletion comes down to context there are some cultural contexts in which people believe that

00:31:44.960 ego depletion isn't it's it's the opposite like if you've had a hard day where you've had to make a

00:31:49.680 lot of decisions now is a really great time to make a tough decision because you've been warmed up

00:31:54.080 it's like warming up like okay i'm on a roll now let's do more hard things whereas in most western

00:32:00.640 cultures the concept of eco depletion is oh well i just had to make a lot of hard decisions today

00:32:05.760 now i'll only make bad decisions because i spent all my responsibility tokens so a lot of it comes down

00:32:11.280 to context too and i could see maybe a nofap context in which people are like well now because

00:32:16.800 i abstain from this and that i can be disciplined with all these other things as well and so i agree

00:32:22.400 that there's nuance here i just think that people need to be aware of how things are playing out with

00:32:27.120 them internally and hey is this producing a good outcome no well then let's change tag yeah and to to

00:32:33.600 the the question of do i think you like build spiritual powers by semen retention no absolutely not

00:32:39.760 that's insane because there are no spiritual powers you doofuses i can't i'm so annoyed

00:32:49.680 okay i'm glad he's dead keep going no no i mean i i yeah you're not like the racism stuff is terrible

00:32:58.000 you just hate the sex stuff no he like do racism right i mean if you're gonna be right like he can't

00:33:06.000 even racism right that that's my problem he can't do anything right so the the the no and i point out

00:33:12.000 it's not that you if if there are spiritual powers our wider belief if there are spiritual powers

00:33:17.200 they're universally negative like not things you should be messing around with not things you should

00:33:21.920 be playing with just do do not mess with them not even i i feel like if there are spiritual powers then

00:33:28.400 you're describing what people have always described as as magic or god's work which is really just

00:33:33.760 science or physics or whatever that we don't understand yet basically any technology or science

00:33:39.360 that we don't understand yet we we call magic so it's just something i have to materialistically

00:33:44.480 think no i'd agree with that i mean it's not material no well no then you're it doesn't exist

00:33:49.440 or i haven't discovered or wrapped my head around it yet and either way it is going to be materialistic

00:33:55.360 right so what she's saying and i think it's a very good point is that if we discover magic in the

00:34:02.000 future that you know we would build science around that magic right like we would have we would

00:34:07.600 understand the rules of it how it worked and we'd utilize it and integrate it with our daily lives

00:34:12.960 and so if there is a a any sort of mystical plane that people are accessing that mystical plane is part

00:34:20.080 of our reality and just part of science and if there is special abilities or powers that people are able

00:34:25.600 to access through that plane that means there's likely some sort of structural system was in that plane

00:34:30.000 that may be super advanced science or something like that but the point i was making wasn't that

00:34:33.920 point simone it's that at least from what i have seen people who attempt to access anything like that

00:34:41.120 plane always end up mentally corrupted and so what i'm saying is that if it exists if they are

00:34:47.440 encountering the science of magic on the other side of the veil of reality it is a corrupting force

00:34:54.080 for humanity rather than an uplifting force for humanity that's why i'm usually kind of like

00:34:59.280 almost autistic is i'm just being constantly why because lower entities will come in and violate your 0.52

00:35:05.680 free will they know all your they see right through you they will not manipulate your free will unless

00:35:11.200 you ask them in i have dude do not say that i'm gonna get killed i've 100 communicated with something

00:35:18.800 i'm not judging anybody i'm just saying be careful the question is whether that something was actually

00:35:23.120 in my imagination or in my mind or that something was something that takes place in another dimension

00:35:28.240 once you open that gate it's all bad why is it all bad why why can't you experience that

00:35:34.240 interdimensional being and learn something from it and be a better person because because every time

00:35:40.960 it gets control it starts murdering everybody they wind up killing everybody in every case it always

00:35:46.240 starts beautiful it always starts great problem is some of it makes sense that that's where the

00:35:50.080 psychosis comes in whoa it's going to create a giant societal crisis where most of the people are

00:35:55.200 already going to get killed because an evil force wants conflict so i'm saying no no no it's all chaos

00:36:00.640 stop it this is the nature of the beast but anyway to continue here i want to talk about violence

00:36:05.440 violence in left-hand tantra as per evola is more symbolic or ritualistic than literal physical harm

00:36:11.120 to others it ties into the quote-unquote fierce aspects of deities like kali who represent destruction

00:36:17.680 and illusions animal sacrifice bali some tantric texts describe offering animals eg goats in rituals

00:36:24.080 symbolizing the sacrifice of one's lower self evola mentioned this as a way to confront death and

00:36:30.640 impermanence but downplayed it as secondary to inner work warning against cruelty without metaphysical

00:36:36.800 purpose oh interesting so you can do it if you have metaphysical purpose he's like don't don't treat

00:36:41.760 it as a shortcut symbolic violence or aesthetic extremes practices like meditating in graveyards

00:36:48.800 oh this guy was so edgy uh sitting you alluded to earlier something about tantric sex in graveyards

00:36:55.760 sitting on corpses was one of his called a shava graveyards were a very a common first date or

00:37:03.600 second date location for you well yeah that was back when in the day when you're doing spicy and

00:37:08.480 i dated goth girls and come on you know me you know my type i did i liked my amelias okay the

00:37:14.320 conservative goth girl was a choker from the video game i'm gonna make her one of the things on the 1.00

00:37:18.240 reddit she was so your type yeah yeah come on god the other one saying this guy's just too gothy i

00:37:23.680 can't imagine like a 30 year old guy like going to a graveyard to sit on bodies it's like

00:37:29.440 meditation or self-mortification to break attachments alvaro linked this to his ideas

00:37:35.200 of heroism quote-unquote writing the tiger and facing chaos without being consumed but it sounds

00:37:40.640 like you were extremely consumed if there was like a chaos person and he's like i'm not sure

00:37:46.480 have i been consumed by the forces of the chaos gods i'd be like you you you are literally like

00:37:53.440 chanting with like a a pentagram inscribed on your forehead bleeding like i'm pretty sure

00:38:00.000 you're all the way there but anyway let's let's let's i wanted to go back to the broader worldview

00:38:09.440 so his worldview was profoundly anti-modern envisioning the cosmos is divided between

00:38:13.600 the solar masculine and the lunar feminine the the masculine was hierarchy and transcendence which is

00:38:18.640 good and the feminine which was bad with chaos egalitarianism and material materialism 1.00

00:38:25.360 humanity's purpose is upward self-transcendence towards the quote-unquote absolute individual

00:38:29.920 strong purposeful and free from cultural and material bonds achieved through heredity which

00:38:35.840 is interesting heredity is a big part of how this is achieved initiation and heroic action

00:38:40.720 so the elements were anti-galitarianism and a hierarchical society he saw a hierarchy as

00:38:49.680 cosmic and intrinsically good manifesting in in physical racial and social forms but rooted in

00:38:55.920 spirituality okay so when he walked down the street he was judging people's souls because he believed that

00:39:02.160 their souls were manifested in physical traits yeah so like things he saw as bad we're like democracy

00:39:08.240 mass rules we've talked about liberalism or individualism and socialism slash equality

00:39:14.000 where instead he favored organic empires and monarchies so again you can see how this ideology

00:39:19.200 influences some of like nick fointy there's something yeah this kind of feeling shows up in

00:39:25.680 bronze age mindset for example yes yeah in terms of misogyny and gender roles he saw women as inferior

00:39:32.480 and dependent on men suited only to be mothers or lovers feminism was a renunciation of femininity 1.00

00:39:39.520 and true order and why did he bonk one because he has no self-control i'm sure each one's probably

00:39:46.400 trying to convert the other you know and true order required patriarchal subjugation masculinity 0.51

00:39:52.160 meant hyper virile warrior ideas he was incredibly anti-semitic he saw he thought that jews

00:39:58.000 symbolized decadent modernity materialism and democracy uh justifying violence he supported

00:40:03.600 imperialism paganism and a european imperium as a hierarchical renewal viewing the u.s as epitomizing

00:40:11.920 chaos and i keep in mind when we look at our thinkers from well before this time period they

00:40:18.240 really love the u.s like when would read we have a do a series where i would like read some of the

00:40:22.480 the martyrdom of man on set stack fans who are paying or whatever like for patreon and he was

00:40:27.120 obsessed with america he thought america was the greatest place on earth and a model for how all

00:40:31.120 other countries should structure their societies yeah and you you literally cite him as basically

00:40:36.240 another form of profit in in our techno puritan materials and even kurt metziger although he said

00:40:41.840 he was a eugenicist which is just wrong he believed in genetics but he wasn't a eugenicist well

00:40:47.440 by many people's definition if you believe in genetics you're obviously a eugenicist so anyway

00:40:54.560 yeah but people picked up on that in later works evola advised quote-unquote riding the tiger using

00:41:00.320 modernity's destructive forces for personal transcendence rejecting collective politics for

00:41:05.600 individual detachment wait hold on explain to me again what riding the tiger means

00:41:18.400 so it means to like utilize the decadence and materialism of society as like a weight to train

00:41:26.880 your soul but then he did that through like sex which seems to be doing the opposite because again

00:41:34.640 as soon as you go to the mythological you can define anything however you want without any one you know

00:41:39.440 able to push back so i wanted to see the yes so sabino almero was a prominent 20th century italian

00:41:48.560 feminist and intellectual her 1906 autobiographical novel a woman is considered a landmark in italian

00:41:54.000 feminist literature detailing her rebellion against an abusive marriage societal constraints on women 0.75

00:42:01.200 and her pursuit of personal freedoms independence and sexual autonomy she was openly non-monogamous

00:42:06.080 involved in leftist and progressive circles and advocated for women's emancipation qualities that

00:42:12.160 aligned closely was what evola later condemned as feminist aberrations their relationship was

00:42:17.200 intense and stormy set against the backdrop of rome's esoteric scene evola was involved with

00:42:22.480 a group of the or an occult group and elmaro drew from it in 1927 novel a more i love therefore i am

00:42:30.720 where evola appears thinly veiled as a character bruno telgra portrayed in a somewhat resentful or

00:42:37.520 critical light accounts describe evola as charismatic and magnetic in his youth nicknamed the spider for

00:42:44.240 drawing women in but the affair ended partly because amara wasn't interested in monogamy and moved on to 1.00

00:42:50.960 other things including another figure from evola's circle gero parts so she didn't have a thing for like

00:42:57.440 incredible misogynist and yeah well because he he it seemed to come from his occult stuff that that is

00:43:07.360 basically the gist of it there were leftist occultists in and they were rightist occultists

00:43:11.360 and they hooked up together and thought sex gave them magic because of course they did of course yeah

00:43:17.440 i i i'm sure they were great for each other yeah yeah so i want to see what he thought about aesthetics

00:43:27.440 and the profane what his entire existence was profane what was profane to him yeah he's watching

00:43:36.160 profanity evola began his career as a painter in the datist and futurist movements around the 1915

00:43:43.680 dadaist oh this explains everything

00:43:50.400 i love you so much simone we are such a we're such a pair we're raggedy man

00:43:56.000 of course i thought that in my head but our audience has no idea what we're talking about

00:43:59.120 there except for if they do chime in in the comments and we'll know

00:44:06.560 well ain't we a pair raggedy man

00:44:13.680 so producing abstract works he described as inner landscapes expressing the spirit

00:44:18.480 with hermetic and esoteric references he was influenced by vastly kardaski's the spirit animal

00:44:24.800 seeking an inner spiritual dimension in abstraction rather than commercial or academic art by 1922 he

00:44:30.960 abandoned painting viewing avant-garde art as stifened by conventions and commercialized

00:44:36.240 preferring philosophy and esotericism for vola true aesthetics transcended the material aligning with

00:44:42.000 eternal truths and rejecting modern degenerate forms that lacked a connection to the transcendent or

00:44:47.680 basically hierarchies

00:44:50.640 all right next the profane okay so he sharply distinguished the sacred eternal transcendent

00:44:58.640 and hierarchical from the profane modern materialistic and meaningless oh oh that's profane

00:45:04.800 okay of course it is to him the profane represents the desecration of nature and the destruction of

00:45:11.840 the organic cosmic world view where everything reflects a higher meaning he criticized modernity

00:45:16.880 for inverting things turning the sacred into profane e.g applying sacramental indissolubility to ordinary

00:45:24.480 marriages sacramental interesting okay so he thought treating like a christian marriage as sacramental

00:45:32.720 indissolubility that was profane to him because it wasn't a super marriage which is whatever he

00:45:40.400 wanted it was it was normal and profane marriage he said he said that marriage and and this is true 0.84

00:45:46.480 to an extent so i can see what he meant by this he said that marriage had been degraded into a social

00:45:50.400 formality okay okay okay okay fine yes in love and society profane is everything not sacralized or

00:46:00.000 incorporated into a higher order leading to nihilism and detachment from tradition evola saw the profane

00:46:05.600 as a hallmark of the kali yuga where material appetites dominate so but he just redefined his material

00:46:12.240 appetites as being metaphysically nutritious yeah and our whole argument around marriage is that it's

00:46:20.000 insufficiently materialistic that it has lost its function as a strategic business life legacy building

00:46:29.680 institution and he's like no we need to make it all about tantric sex and indulgence and so yeah i guess

00:46:36.560 that's that just very different conclusions okay go on yeah well i'm not gonna go too deep into

00:46:46.720 the other stuff i think you get the broader idea i'm gonna have a stroke this is this is i'm so

00:46:51.760 deeply disturbed here's the gist of his worldview right um and and i the reason why i want to go into

00:46:57.520 it and how silly a lot of it is when you see it and how lame a lot of it is when you really get into it

00:47:03.120 is a lot of people who have only engaged with the parts of as you saw our episode on h guy right the

00:47:10.800 parts of h guys philosophies the fashionistas that freak out progressives right and get progressives

00:47:17.440 angry they hear it and they think oh that sounds really based and interesting right because they don't

00:47:24.000 know about it holistically and when they dive into it holistically they're like oh that's actually

00:47:30.000 profoundly stupid they hear about a guy who's known as a super fascist right who thought about

00:47:36.480 it sounds delightful but also i mean i think people especially in modern times and including the left

00:47:41.840 the anti-colonial leftists see fascism is extremely materialistic well right i mean he basically saw

00:47:52.800 hierarchy as in itself sacred is the way i put it that is that is where he's yeah but what is

00:48:00.800 hierarchy if it is not based on materialistic achievement i mean historically it was being

00:48:06.000 like you are literally the biggest strongest early hominid right and then you were the biggest strongest 1.00

00:48:12.720 early hominid who also had lots of sticks and lots of food and then it was lots of gold and then it was 0.79

00:48:20.000 it was it was it was the biggest and think about all the early leaders who were also like freakishly

00:48:26.400 tall and just die easily this is this is all materialism because it is really important to

00:48:36.640 highlight the point that you're making which is hierarchy has no meaning if it's not also materialist if

00:48:45.600 it is well if it's not observable like if whatever the hierarchy whatever you believe gives one group

00:48:54.320 an advantage over another group or one individual an advantage over another individual if that is not

00:48:59.840 something that is easily observable through how that individual interacts with the world or society through the

00:49:08.000 flourishing present produced by that individual or that culture or that group's interaction then the hierarchy is

00:49:14.320 completely non-meaningful and the the reality is that the reason why people like this guy instead

00:49:23.280 move towards the idea of spiritual hierarchies and i know there's not just spiritual hierarchies you see

00:49:29.120 this among mystics all the time when they're like well people like me who are more in tune with the

00:49:35.440 whatever right like they self-define a a form of hierarchy that they can only observe from their own

00:49:44.000 subjective reality so they they take this position because it allows them to always be at the top of the

00:49:50.880 hierarchy without having to objectively prove themselves in reality if you if you look at us

00:49:58.400 i am like within any individual hierarchy i am i am only so good as i provably am right i am only

00:50:09.920 you know as as an intellectual so good as smart people or the the the a large amount of smart people

00:50:17.920 follow me and care what i have to say and these are the people who are going to influence the direction

00:50:22.320 that society goes and so they take on my ideas and then they build whatever the next movement is around

00:50:29.360 my ideas like i when we point out now that we have one of the largest subreddits now

00:50:34.800 this subreddit is is i think probably larger into the weekly interaction because red is just larger now

00:50:39.600 than the red pill ever was right and so that means that if you go you know 10 years in the future and

00:50:46.000 we're able to keep this thing from getting banned which is why we need mods please reach out

00:50:49.360 10 years into the future our our there's going to be a generation of redditors conservative redditors

00:50:54.960 who were raised within this intellectual and aesthetic ecosystem and then come out and being

00:51:00.720 like oh it's it's the base camp intellectual ecosystem right like i i know that in the same

00:51:04.800 way that i would say this about the red pill right like simone and i were red pillars like when

00:51:10.720 we're critical of red pill i think people think we're being critical of something that we don't consider

00:51:15.040 ourselves still solidly within not even like former members i'm not somebody who's like bitter about

00:51:21.440 the red pill or anything like that i i think it made some mistakes and i think that it is you know

00:51:27.120 systemically teaches some things a bit wrong but i think it was a very important movement for society

00:51:32.800 to have and i think that it was a movement that we needed to go through to get to something like maga

00:51:38.480 or to get to the modern religious revival movements we're beginning to see that are not happening in a

00:51:43.040 traditional context but that's another episode uh as to why another reason why mysticism is is

00:51:50.400 really really bad is if what is fundamentally true about reality is subjective to the self if you get

00:51:58.080 in a disagreement with somebody and you have different perspectives about what is metaphysically

00:52:01.760 true like if i disagree with his perspective on these things he could just say well i i believe in my

00:52:10.240 subjective reality and because it's my subjective reality therefore you are wrong and if there are

00:52:15.760 people watching us and trying to determine what objective reality is objective reality becomes a

00:52:22.400 dominance competition or or popularity competition among mystic gurus which is well how they always end up

00:52:29.600 going so crazy and wackadoo right because there's no subjective way to call them out on well that's not true

00:52:35.200 right like objectively let me prove to you that is not true finally i i do understand this idea because

00:52:43.520 you're like where is his vitalism his vitalism is in the self-ownership that he preached to this idea

00:52:50.000 that you can cultivate your own spirit until you oh i heard that is self-owned which 100 he's a walking

00:52:58.240 self-owned but go on you mean like that he's just taken radical responsibility of himself like spiritually

00:53:05.600 or something go on but as you point out you're actually advocating all real responsibility for

00:53:13.280 yourself when you detach objective judgments about whether or not you are doing good things right like

00:53:20.320 whether or not you are moving in a good direction whether or not you are actually improving these are

00:53:24.800 objective things that can be measured and if you can't measure them now he'd just say well like

00:53:29.200 every day i'm riding the tiger through my tantric sex on corpses um but like and he'd be like no it is 0.68

00:53:34.880 hard for me to do i don't i don't like doing it and it's like then you're just making it weirder

00:53:41.840 it's hard work oh my god get a life

00:53:46.480 wow

00:53:54.480 man and i do like that bap called out this guy by the way i i went to margaret singer because his idea

00:54:01.360 sounded a lot you know when when you follow plan parenthood yeah like her ideas really well remember

00:54:07.600 she thought different races had different soul qualities and the reason she wanted to stop abortions 1.00

00:54:13.200 it's because she thought that there were only so many souls in pre-life and there were too many

00:54:19.040 low quality souls being born and so we needed to stop people from having kids especially blacks in 1.00

00:54:25.200 her mind see me the reason she wanted to make abortions more readily available is because there were 1.00

00:54:32.560 low quality souls being being brought in pulling from the bottom of the barrel like oh man can't keep

00:54:39.520 up the supply that's basically yes that's basically you're gonna toss in the gimp souls wow we were 0.99

00:54:44.960 scraping from the bottom of like the metaphysical soul barrel and that society was running out of

00:54:50.080 souls so we were only getting like the defective ones anymore defective souls wow yeah okay

00:54:59.920 but no it is it is well these people aren't having kids so we can all just rest assured that this is

00:55:06.320 all being slowly deleted well no the people whose ideologies are downstream of spiritualistic

00:55:13.200 vitalism and this is this is the key thing he embodies spiritualistic vitalism and everyone

00:55:19.920 i've ever known who has gone down the path of spiritualistic vitalism has had no kids if your

00:55:25.760 vitalism is is not a form that is objectively observable in the real world and objectively

00:55:32.880 causal on the real world you are going to eradicate yourself from the timeline and your people from 1.00

00:55:38.800 the timeline and so many people when they hear vitalism they try to drift towards spiritual vitalism

00:55:46.640 which i think is one of the worst poisons not just in modern society but in human history

00:55:53.520 and and we argue in other ones you can watch our video on witches and stuff like that that this

00:55:57.600 is what is meant with the concept of a witch this i don't know we're we're super though like right

00:56:02.560 now we're we are techno puritanist or sorry techno puritans that is our religion our religion is

00:56:07.920 techno puritanism and right now we're we're leaning into our most active holiday which is is sort of a rough

00:56:14.240 running month kind of based on different conditions called future day where we encourage our kids to think

00:56:20.960 about the far future and long-termism and to sort of learn how to lean into self-improvement and

00:56:29.440 contributing to making the world and and long-term human flourishing a priority of them instead of just

00:56:36.080 you know instant gratification i think we're talking about a lot is the subtle forces that draw you to

00:56:43.680 not can make the world a better place to not improve yourself and we call that the basilisk it we

00:56:50.800 personify it as like this evil force not well not evil per se but this malicious force that will

00:56:58.000 drive you it's a culling force exactly and and so we we try to explain to our kids that it's just

00:57:05.120 it's just it it's the same thing as god to us it's just it's it's god on days when he's

00:57:13.280 removing the mentalization of like i was i was i was explaining it to our son octavian like this

00:57:20.720 because he loves army men right now and like military everything and i'm like okay so look at

00:57:26.880 this green army man when he's on our side you know we we love him he's our friend right but what if we

00:57:33.360 were the enemy would would we be afraid of him yes because we're the enemy and he's going to destroy us

00:57:38.080 that is exactly what the basilisk is the basilisk is the guy on our side who is fighting for what we

00:57:46.320 care about and you only need to be afraid of him if you are our enemy and his enemy he will come after

00:57:52.080 the weakest and worst elements of you and so when i think about mysticism i see it from a techno puritan

00:57:58.880 standpoint as a force ultimately of good of the basilisk in that it is systematically removing

00:58:06.400 the weak-minded and indulgent of of humanity it is a test and if you fail the test you do not matter

00:58:14.720 anymore and that's so i think this is a really interesting point that you're making here that

00:58:18.160 i want to expand on a little bit specifically theologically speaking the the the the devil

00:58:24.080 to us the basilisk synonyms right um is in in some forms of traditional christianity

00:58:30.640 is something that only punishes bad people when bad people do bad things but if you look at the

00:58:37.120 devil that's actually in the bible that is not the devil's core role it is not to punish bad people

00:58:45.840 it is to test good people to make them better but punish them if they fall or fail the test so that

00:58:54.800 they don't fail the test next time right or or or punish them so severely that they're no longer

00:59:01.440 part of the community or part of the population or part of the gene pool right so many people see the

00:59:07.440 the the devil as only which i've never understood right like okay so the devil is bad because the

00:59:12.720 devil punishes bad people well punishing bad people is good right yeah are you mad at the police for

00:59:19.120 arresting criminals you only hate the police if you're a criminal right the devil is bad because

00:59:27.200 the devil tempts good people and i'm like but if good people are made stronger through temptation and

00:59:35.360 better able to resist all of the temptations of life then isn't that does he punish them when they

00:59:42.800 don't give into temptation no but he does punish them when they do give into temptation yes so

00:59:49.520 like that doesn't seem like a uh a holistically and obviously this is where i think you know when

00:59:54.160 you're reading the book of job or something like that people are like what why is god and the devil

00:59:58.080 or two compartmentalizations of the divine having like a friendly conversation with each other and

01:00:02.720 it's because the devil is not a holistically negative thing he was trying to show anyone can

01:00:07.920 eventually be broken if he goes far enough and the point was made there and for all of us that

01:00:11.840 know some people are just holistically made stronger through the tests that you give them

01:00:18.320 and and and you know no he's given everything back at the end of that his wives and kids of course it

01:00:22.880 doesn't matter to them right you know they they still died but their role in everything was still

01:00:27.760 sort of played out the point being is he was not given the ability to punish him when he did not give

01:00:33.920 into temptation right the the the punishment it can be part of the temptation or it can be a a uh

01:00:42.720 like a a punishment for giving into temptation uh but it is not punishment in and of itself

01:00:48.720 anyway i think that's a really good point note here if you're like well he was an angel who rebelled

01:00:54.560 against god and waged some sort of like civil war in heaven which means that he couldn't have been

01:01:00.320 a partition of god there is no reason to believe any of that if you don't believe revelations was

01:01:05.040 canonical and i do not believe revelations was canonical and you can go into our track series

01:01:09.680 about why we think that and i think that this man is trash and i'm not gonna back down on that

01:01:15.600 i will no i'm always open to having my mind changed guys tell me why this man was so great maybe i can i

01:01:24.000 i i love i love a good steel man i don't know so someone help me out here why why is this man not

01:01:30.400 utter trash chime in love you guys and over and out i'm gonna go tear my eyes out

01:01:43.760 love you and by the way for people who wonder why we argue so fervently that

01:01:48.560 the devil is a compartment isolation of the divine is because if you believe the devil is a completely

01:01:54.080 separate supernatural entity then you are definitionally a polytheist you're you're just

01:01:59.200 a trans polytheist you're a polytheist defining themselves as a closet a closeted self no they're

01:02:07.040 just trans it's like a trans person who says i'm a woman i'm like you're you're you're definitionally 0.77

01:02:12.720 not a woman when they're like i'm a monotheist i'm like you're definitionally not a monotheist you

01:02:17.280 believe in two divine entities and then they're like well one entity is subservient to the other

01:02:21.920 entity it was created by the other entity and we point out that's actually really common in

01:02:25.360 polytheistic traditions that in in like the greek tradition or something there's still one god that

01:02:29.440 created all the other gods and the other gods are subservient you're just defining him as not a god

01:02:33.920 which is why i call it trans polytheism um which is done by some religions or some iterations of

01:02:40.320 christianity from our perspective because they know that they're not supposed to be polytheists and so

01:02:45.440 they just define themselves as not polytheists without having to deal with the theological

01:02:49.440 implications of believing in multiple supernatural divine entities thank you

01:02:57.440 there are track threes if you want to know more simone i got you the update on the site done today

01:03:05.760 thank you with the new feature so it's easy to share individual scenarios now from our fab.ai which i'm

01:03:12.640 excited about and i mean even though we're working on stuff like this is a sign of how stable everything

01:03:17.360 else is i've been working on making sure that you can cross platform load up your scenarios because

01:03:22.480 some people are having issues with that and i am don't really need reddit mods from people who are

01:03:29.840 like in our community and known that can't be complete randos so if you're interested let us know because

01:03:35.920 the subreddit now is the largest in terms of like active usership conservative subreddit bigger than

01:03:41.760 joe rogan so we gotta well deleted yeah this is just conservative stuff and

01:03:52.160 molder's most forbidden investigation tunnels molder why would there be tunnels beneath the

01:03:58.160 synagogue scully i don't think we should be here i don't think we should be asking these questions 0.99

01:04:03.760 was that our conservative or base camp it's base camp okay that checks out

01:04:17.360 there's an austria then big buff the doge and it says we shall stop the turkish expand expansion

01:04:23.600 and protect europe and then austria now a little dog austrian president is asking all women to wear

01:04:28.640 a hijab in solidarity with muslims to fight rampant islamophobia did that actually happen

01:04:38.240 that's amazing i bet that did happen but that's it's both hard to believe but why would someone

01:04:44.160 say it if it didn't happen but i'm too tired to look it up right now we're not going to cover it so

01:04:50.800 unless we do

01:04:51.440 anyway so very very fun and yeah and and today's episode is going to be an interesting one for me

01:04:57.920 because i don't know that much about this guy like i'm i just started studying him today and i was

01:05:03.120 working today so you know i got as much in as i could in terms of understanding this new philosophical

01:05:09.440 framework and i wanted to share it with you guys and talk through it because i think it's interesting

01:05:13.520 i'm excited but i'm not an an expert by any means on this stuff i i generally do not like philosophers

01:05:21.520 oh is that what he is he's not just some kind of yeah he's a philosopher

01:05:28.240 or a like a theorist of like world frameworks and stuff like that who put him on your radar

01:05:34.720 actually ai put him on my radar really oh yeah i was trying to learn about the sort of ancestral

01:05:41.840 roots as some of the new strains in the new right and it's specifically like bats ideology yeah and

01:05:47.360 it pointed him as like the predecessor of some of these and another big following i never did a

01:05:53.520 piece saying that he loved by the new right you know and that he's like a big philosopher well you'll

01:05:58.880 you'll understand you'll see where he's coming from and we'll talk about where we agree and disagree

01:06:03.200 okay do you hear that andy come with me come with me okay okay who's gonna go first

01:06:17.920 okay go go go hold on tight to the rails did you hear something

01:06:26.400 what what what what

01:06:33.200 oh he gave you back your magnet tiles

01:06:59.360 hey guys look at all these toys oh future debris look whoa andy look at that it's a train set

01:07:15.760 oh my place oh my gosh i know i know i'm sure to breathe whoa

01:07:24.720 that's so cool

01:07:28.960 you see you want to see this

01:07:33.440 what what oh my god oh my god they're like us

01:07:45.760 what is it what is it what is it what is it what what is it what is it

01:07:55.360 i know this is for me no look it's it's octavian's helicopter toasty that means that that must be

01:08:01.760 toasty's octavian it's a mermaid it's a mermaid doll just what you asked for yeah

01:08:08.320 toasty that's that's octavian's helicopter and look at that toasty look what's this

01:08:20.480 i yes i opened that a little yeah oh my gosh

01:08:25.840 i did not actually i did not know that was wrong so i opened it

01:08:30.720 indy that must mean that this is for you girl indy look what's this

01:08:37.360 look he puts tape here what is in there he puts tape we made it tell dad look indy what's this

01:08:49.760 so many presents look at that a beautiful train set and toasty show me what did you get what did you

01:08:57.600 look at what do you see oh what is it what is it what is it

01:09:09.120 let's open it up okay dad what is it kristin

Based Camp - January 19, 2026

Julius Evola & Super Fascism： The Bizarre Ideology Making A Resurgence

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